/dsg/ - Souls General

>>152346796
>the announcement is a tshirt

nth for buff the fugs

>katana build
>shield

R U I N E D

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Dragons.

Ciaran shouldn't have picked a fight she couldn't win.
She initially had the advantage against her draconic foe, but as time passed, she found herself tiring...with Kalameet showing little damage and no signs of slowing down.
Suddenly, it happened...Ciaran could no longer keep up... As the dragon jumped at her, she ran underneath...only to stumble from her exhaustion. The fight was over, she had lost.

Kalameet cranes his neck around to look for his foe, only to see her collapsed on the ground, desperately trying to get back up.
The dragon realizes that she was at his mercy and grins at the thought.

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>>152346942
you disgusting creep

dont make another post

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>>152347030
Guess you guys went, then?

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>>152347014
else suffer what consequence?

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>>152347126
>tfw no answer to your signs

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>>152347126
didn't see a second summon after a while and then got invaded so i thought i'd just fight the boss

the other guy didn't even get past the gate so you didn't miss much

>>152346942
go on...
anyone got kalameet's VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE pic?

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>>152347126
I got stuck outside boss gate because >netcode lol
host solo'd buffed sage

Any DaS1 guides how to make a good character face?

>>152347126
>sword at side
>shield on back
what

>>152347194
Taking a few steps backwards, he begins to position himself right above the knight of Gwyn... She looks up in horror as Kalameet sits down upon her.
When he lifts himself up, there is no sign of Ciaran, except her two tracers on the ground...until you look at the base of the dragon's tail.
There, lies Kalameet's large anus...with Ciaran's thin legs poking out.

>>152347198
did the invader end up finding you?

>>152347368
this went the exact opposite way i expected it to

i want eygon to bully me

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>tfw I actually won a 1v9 (NINE) invasion

>>152347549
did you expect kalameet to go in ciaran's anus?

best small shield?

>>152347258
>>152347126


Yo what the fuck how did you sheathe your sword and shield

I just tried to do that shit and they just hid themselves REEEEEE

>>152347549
Wanting to escape her tight prison, Ciaran begins to struggle and squirm, unwittingly massaging the dragon's prostate causing waves of pleasure to flow through the beast.
His cock throbs with with each of her movements, preparing itself for release. Kalameet roars in satisfaction and tenses his anus muscles, drawing her further and further inside.
She screams out as she slides deeper into the monster she was sent to kill, but no one but the dragon could hear her. Soon, her feet slip past his moist hole and she sinks all the way inside her captor.
This drives Kalameet over the edge, causing him to blow his load.. His cum splatters across the forest floor.
Satisfied, the ancient beast walks off, leaving behind a pond size puddle of dragon semen with the knight's trademark weapons floating in the center.

Ciaran was never seen again...

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>>152347603
>tfw from allows 1v9 (NINE) invasions

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>>152347647
>>152347258

>>152347603
>9
>when only 6 people can be in a world, including the host

>>152347754
he obviously means resummons

I've been playing Bloodborne the past 2 months. Is DS3 pvp still shit? Are my mage and pyro still BTFO by hollow quality builds?

>>152347754
Nah man he was ganked by fellow invaders and the three stooges in Grand Archives

>>152347781
then it's still 1v4

>>152347801
mage and pyro are both good
though yes, hollow quality is always better when played be players of the same skill level

>>152347738
i-i dont understand

>tfw have to cheat to be fashionable

so what does it do then? are your weapons automatically sheathed at all times?

>>152347872
it gives you a horsecock

>>152347754

Host + 3 Blue Sentinels + 4 white phantoms, one of which he summoned twice.

>>152347872
you can set it to 0 to sheathe your weapons, changes upon changing grip or weapon

you can freeze it to lock them there, you can attack with them but they're just invisible in your hands

Holy shit. I'm putting a red sign down at great belfry as a sunbro. Getting summoned within 30 secs max. Two thirds of hosts don't suspect anything until I backstab them with Yhorm's.

>>152347949
that seems like something easily abusable

>>152347951
>they don't realize you shouldn't be able to be locked on, and didn't spawn directly where your sign was

they deserve it

>>152347949
i want to be an ebin hacker!

how to set this up

>>152347607
ye

>Host just runs away and blocks, expects you to solo the boss
So black crystalling out of this shit lmao

>>152347997
>you can cheat with cheat engine
wow wee

>>152348083
no retard

>>152347951
>great belfry
>yhorm

What?

>>152348145
Yhorm's (great machete)

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>>152348092
I don't even know how that'd work

>>152348140
hey! no bully i jsut want to look cool sheesh

>body buffs were ridiculously broken in DS2
>body buffs are ridiculously useless in DS3
I see

>>152348274
>bleed was rediculously OP in DS1
>it was absolutely nothing in DS2
>it's balanced in DS3

ok

>>152348325
>>it's balanced in DS3

>>152348325
Is it really OP in DaS1?

anyone willing to help with omstein and smough on pc? SL50

>>152348325
Bleed was balanced in DS1, idiot.

>>152348407
If you find out the highest level that can help you, sure

>>152348359
Bleed is pretty balanced, Carthus Rouge just shouldn't exist is all.

>>152348374
yes, it took off a percentage(30-50%) of health if it triggered, and was extremely easy to inflict. Combined with dealing damage at the same time it'd be an instant kill most of the time.

>>152348472
>33 - 63
could just grind a while , i'm tired to do this the normal way

>>152348486
but that's just the problem
rogue with any fast weapon with innate bleed on a hollow build is really really good since bleed applies even if you get roll through the attack

>>152348637
I'll go see if I have a char than can help lad

>>152348649
how to fix bleed in DS3:
>make carthus eroge only drop from enemies, you can't purchase it anymore

>>152348637
Alright lad, sign'll be by the bonfire

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>>152348185
we will make it work

>>152348649
An easy solution would be to make it unusable with weapons that already have bleed, whether it's innate or infused.

>>152348929
I thought bleed infused weapons couldn't be buffed anyway

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>>152348757
checking then

>>152348981
weapons with innate bleed can, like dsa can be buffed

>install new game
>go to the general to see if it's any good
>lucy is there

fuck off already

>>152349012
I dunno how this shit works in DaS1

Sign's right across from Solaire. Do I need to have humanity?

>>152349012
Not him but isn't the first bonfire the shortest way to O&S?

>>152349026
I said infused dumdum

>>152349067
no , i need to be in human form to see your summoning sign , thats all
works like this
>to help you can be hollow , just put white soap sign
>to recieve help , be in human form
but matching was always slow on DaS

>>152349082
i dunno . since i generally need to wait for the elevator it doesn't make a difference to me, , only lacking to open the big door entrance anyway and that doesn't matter for me

what is the best blind playthrough of ds3 on youtube?

>>152349141
Dunno lad, I got my sign down in this room but if it isn't showing up like usual, I can't help and i really can't be bothered with installing that connectivity mod this exact moment

>>152349321
does not exist

>>152349332
well fuck me then
dunno about the connectivity mod thing never heard of it

>>152349321
D S P
S
P

>>152349391
most enjoyable playthrough?

Smough is the worst thing in Dark Souls
worst character
worst armor
worst weapon

>>152349436
INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

the frigid outskirts are BY FAR THE WORST DESIGNED AREA IN ALL OF DARK SOULS SERIES. this is in the ds2 dlc. like its not even close how fucking GARBAGE the map design is. its very difficult for all the wrong reasons

>you CANT SEE ANYTHING. this is actually okay in a 1v1 situation with the horsies, but there are other mobs in the zone who are slightly less hard than the horsies, but they are virtually unbeatable together
>there is virtually no indication of where the landmarks are during a snowstorm. you cannot possibly tell me to use the sun as a reference point to get back to a landmark, when im going around in circles fighting horsies
>the horsies spawn AT THE EXACT SAME TIME AS WHEN U AGRO THE SWORD GUY. like instantly its a bullshit 2v1. the sword guy has stupid ammounts of health, and his atack animation recovery is UNBELIEAVELY fast. atleast with the ice lancer hes kind of slow, i tried 4 backstabs and all of them misses on the sword guy, only then to be instantly charged by a horsie and die

like i can 1v1 a hornie 0 to death without taking damage no problem, its just that 2v1 in a area i cant possibly even SEE and the random spawns are just mindblowingly stupid

like the horse charges at you from a COMPLETLY RANDOM LOCATION. half the time i dont even know where it is before it takes half my hp pool

its mindblowing how anyone thinks this is a good level design. like i had no problems with any other area in either ds1 or 2, not even any remote problems, but this area is just horrible game design.

like i have no control over anything its just
>"random horsie from nowhere which instantly spawns when u agro a guy with 2 crossbows who heals, and u cant see anything or where they are XDD"

actually a joke

and im not going to fucking use tier 1 builds or research armour types or any of that shit. i beat the entire game minus the dlc with a Fire Longsword +10. i played the complete entirety of both games FULLY NAKED minus a sword, rings and a bow

>King of the Storm
What a fucking badly designed boss

>>152349517
agreed ds 2 is the worst game ever and everyone should buy bloodborne

>>152349543
The only way they could make it worse is giving him a humanoid body and a giant cleaver

>>152349321
Otzdarva

>>152349640
thanks m8 ill check out the channel

>>152349517
anon why dont you just get good

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>>152349332
i installed it myself , well i need to figure how it works

>>152349569
DaS2 apologists are such subhumans for defending an objectively terrible sequel. Haven't even played BB but from what I've seen it looks amazing, far better than that abortion of a game.

>>152349746
Some nerd in shadow set summoned me.

I'm SL55 name starts with an S

>>152349332
gotta eat lunch
if it was you who tried helping thanks . i will go back to try to summon in 15 minutes
>now i start to see people online and summoning signs
fucking port

>>152346796
I am going to be pissed if the announcement isn't the DLC.

>>152350603
Its definitely expansion, anon, you better believe i'm paying 40< dollars for it

ok what's the easiest way to cheese NK? so tired of fighting this retarded ass boss

>>152350894
Summon me if you're on PC

I'll even kill him for you if you pull out a bow and snipe him from afar

i feel like dark souls is what 3d zelda should've have been

>>152351289
>should have have been

>>152351289
loz:botw is literally zelda souls, even the difficulty is ramped up slightly compared to prior titles

>>152351365
my b. i just woke up

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>>152351431
sry for bullying you anon

>>152351391
yeah i hope it ends up being the best zelda. i would totally buy an nx just for it

>>152346796
Believe it or not, i've been stranded in the wilderness for the past 12 months. how is dark souls 3 compared to dark souls 1 and 2?

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>>152351483
its all good

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>>152347194
this one?

>>152351639
its better than 2 in every way except pvp. The Level design is too linear though and reuses too many assets from bloodborne

>>152351639
PvE is kinda okay, enemies are too fast for you

pvp is a terribly balanced joke

>manage to summon sommebody after 4 connection lost
>try to summon somebody and game crashes

>>152351696
yes, thank you

>>152350894
i think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l2Dsy1KKng
or
https://youtu.be/2rwdg7ta2hk
there are probably some other ways

>>152351639
The core mechanics of the series haven't changed much. Poise is only active during the attacks of heavier weapons and the special attacks of lighter weapons, if applicable.

Rolling is far more powerful than it has been in the other series with more iFrames and an incredibly lenient weight system that allows for this optimum rolling.

Like the other games, only one to two weapons out of each class significantly outshine the others in some way or another.

It's also worth mentioning that the games combat pacing, although much smoother than say, dark souls or SotFS, is significantly quicker, albeit not as much fast an aggressive as Bloodborne.

The entire souls franchise averages a 9, DaS3 is also a 9.

>>152350894
You could also pick yourself up a Dragonslayer Greatshield. Has 95% lightning and 100% melee absorption.

>>152351942
how would u compare ds2 to ds3, i still havent got ds3, i need a new cpu which im getting next month

frigid outskirts are such a terribly designed area, i cant even get to the boss

>>152351926
>>152351134
never mind, spirit tree shield + longsword did the trick

fucking king of the storm though, never has the camera been more frustrating in a boss fight

>>152352061
Just don't lock on during that phase, it isn't hard anon. You have to move your camera manually and track kosm that way.

Is bleed good in DaS3? What early weapons have it if it is good?

>>152352235
Yes, grab a weapon with innate bleed and slap carthus rouge on it
Uchi has bleed and is early, warden twinblades drop from the cathedral twinblade women for fast application of bleed

>>152352235
it's fucking broken
uchigatana can be obtained right after killing the tutorial boss
warden twinblades, the best weapon if you care only about bleed, can be obtained after killing the 4th boss

>>152352349
sellswords are a couple steps and a black knight away from halfway fort bonfire too

>>152352035
Much different. DaS2 is highly unpolished, but more refined, where as for DaS3 it's the exact opposite.

Too much polish, and no refinement. Unless this is all a sick joke by the devs, being that the refined infusion is broken OP.

>>152351639
it's better than any other game in the series after the same amount of time after release

>>152352409
but they have no innate bleed

>>152352403
3rd*

gundy > vordt > sage

>>152352536
I counted ballsack tree as 3rd
it's optional, but killing it is very highly recommended

Who else here beat tutorial boss first try here in DaS3?
I can understand why it could be difficult. But man I never felt more braggy than when I destroyed him first attempt.

>>152352403
for pve warden twinblades are nowhere nearly as good as barbed straight sword or carthus curved

>>152352672
If you did it as a Knigga or warrior, you have literally nothing to brag about.

Took me 5 tries as deprived on launch day.

>>152352684
You mean PvP? I've had a very easy time using them in PvE, but in PvP most people are smart enough to not get bled out.
Besides, I said "the best weapon if you only care about bleed". BSS and CCS might be better overall, but they don't apply bleed as quickly as WTB.

Sharp dagger. Is it usable, or just complete trash?

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>try blindspot on a turtle
>180 damage

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>>152353140
>try dark infused weapons on a turtle
>faggot might as well just facetank all my hits because it chips him for like 60 damage per 1hr1 of plain old longsword and i can spam that shit into oblivion then roll back safely because lmao 30% equip load

>>152352961
trash
refined corvian greatknife is the only usable dagger, and maybe refined + buffed brigand twindaggers

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>5 reallocations per playthrough
How do I CE in more?

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>>152353140
>>152353282
>try shortbow WA with dark arrows on a turtle
>literal 5 damage per shot
>he fucking panics and stops turtling anyway
>gets memed on

So I heard you can kill the right dragon in Draon Barracks with one shot to the leg? Why would that even work
Because it doesn't

>>152351740
You mean the world design. Level design isn't linear at all.

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>>152353748
>appearance and stat rebirths counted as the same thing
>can't change name
>can't change gender

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>>152353906

Nevermind, it worked.
Not that it makes any sense or anything.

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>trying to snipe a high wall dragon at the second bonfire
>motherfucker turns around and blasts me out for a fire breath

>>152351740
It's way better than ds2 even in terms pvp unless by pvp you mean boring arena faggotry that should never exist to begin with.

>>152354020
Why is the Nameless King hollowed? That makes no fucking sense.

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>mfw they announce SOTFS DLC because noone bothers with DaS3 anymore
It would be great, since DaS3 is basically unfixable.

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>>152354029
don't do it, it's not worth it
you can't even kill it, it just fucks off when its health is low and the reward is 1 (ONE) large titanite shard

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>>152354268

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Who else FGS here? It has to be by far my favorite weapon.

How are them parry frames in the offhand dagger?
When will we get a patch that stops the dagger disappearing when performing legion etiquette gesture?
Why won't they let us cast buffs/apply resin to it, when we can do so to shit like the Lothric greatsword?

Is Hollowslayer greatsword better/more fun than Astora Straight Sword in DaS3?
I want to kinda use it but I have never used straight swords before and am enjoying Astora somewhat.

>>152354437
When I first got my FGS it wa sliterally the only weapon I used for the rest of the game. Shit was so broken. I also dominated in PvP with it.

>>152354557
hollowslayer is the best greatsword and a top tier weapon with fun moveset
astora straight is boring as fuck

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>>152354437
this weapon is the best thing in the dark souls series
legion etiquette doesn't work properly with it and it's unbuffable because pic related

>>152354682
Tanimura is the one who did balance decisions in DS3.

>>152353748
Just change your stats.

>>152354557
>>152354437
Oh,wait, it wasnt the FGS, I was thinking of the Wolf Knight Greatsword, my bad.

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>>152354682
IT IS LITERALLY COVERED IN FUCKING FLAMES IN THE BOSS FIGHT YOU GOOK FUCK

>>152354727
literally everything was buffable in tanimura's game, so you're either wrong or memezaki forced him to change some things

>>152354752
Is it safe to use CE to just change the allocation of your stats though?

>tfw finally getting platinum on BB and having all the trophies from the DLC
>tfw i can now safely leave this game behind knowing i experienced everything the game has to offer

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>>152355042
Wait, how does this work?

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did rosine's step dad inspire father gas can? what's gas can's story?

>>152355567
set them all to 0 fag

>>152355604
Gascoigne was a pig breeder and also a church hunter.

Hmpf..usually I was successful at backstabbing ceastus parry memers as they tried to parry but now everyone does an instant 180 at the moment I wanna stab and parry
:(

>>152355742
Oh okay. Thanks homo.
I really didn't want to use CE in DS3 but goddamn, give you the option to respec and limit it to 5 per playthrough and no way to earn more, that's just typical Japanese retardation.

>>152355849
you get more going into NG+ but fuck that.
Also do all the CE dickery offline to be safe

>>152348741
They'll just item swap it with cheat engine.

Anyone here platinumed DS2? How hard is it compared to the other games?

>>152356084
and even they can't, they can always dupe with friends. limiting accessibility of a consumable is not a proper way to balance it

>>152356110
Probably the easiest one to get 100%
The only one I had a hard time with was the Benhart one because he cant die in any of the fights you use him in.

>>152355787
Caestus has like no recovery, that's why it is a meme. The ones you backstabbed were probably just dumb and didn't know they could move already, or it was lag

>>152354029
>>152354393

Anyone tried to use CE to kill the Dragon?

>>152354437
fgs parry has exact parry frames as curved swords
never
its a boss weapon

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>>152354364
He's dried up like Gwyn is.

>>152356975
Gwyn was literally burned alive
NK wasn't

When summoned as a white phantom, Blue Sentinels should receive souvenirs when they kill an invader in the host's world.

>>152346796
anybody want to coop undead crypt with me? I'm right before the boss door, need a little help. Level 113.

Why does everyone keep saying DaS2 has the worst world/level design out of all the games? Honest question

I know that all the areas are lazily connected with eachother (Iron Keep being the best example) but if you look at the individual areas themselves, i'd say DaS2 has way more memorable and interesting areas/settings than for example DaS3 (which only really had Irithyll as a memorable area, but not much else).

>>152357038
I'm guessing gwyn fucked a lot of shit

>fucked witch of izalith
>Gwynevere
>fucked Nito
>Nameless King
>fucked some serpent or some shit
>Gwyndolin
>fucked some dragon
>Yorshka

>>152352035
Dark Souls 3 is more like DS1+BB, basically Demon's Souls 1.5.
Everything feels much faster than Dark Souls 2 or 1, some of the things from Dark Souls 2 were kept, like the weapon upgrade system, but the infusions are straight out of Demon's Souls.

>>152352235
>Is bleed good in DaS3?
Bleed is absolutely sicknasty.

>What early weapons have it if it is good?
Bandit knife, Uchikatana.

>>152357315
>fucked witch of izalith and nito
where the fuck did you get that info and how the fuck does it relate to NK looking like a hollow

>>152357271
People complained about the proper dual wielding DaS2 offered or arena, so I would say it's mostly shitposting.
A lot of cool areas were too small though like shaded woods.

>>152357271
'Interesting and memorable' does not equal fun or enjoyable. Iron Keep looks really cool and is an interesting premise, but it's a massive pain in the ass to play through with obnoxious enemy placement and feels like a fucking Mario level where no human being could live or work.

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r8/h8

Should I go for Cathedral of the Deep or Farron Keep first? Does it matter?

>>152357523
headcanon my friend.

>>152357638
Proper dual wielding is one of the saddest losses from the sequel, but it's good that powerstancing and arenas are gone

>>152357856
gr8 m8 I r8 it 8/8

>>152357315
>fucked Nito
nice asspull headcanon

>>152355562
if chalice dungeons weren't so retarded (the opening them system) i would complete them too (or force myself through it with achievements)
too bad the idea was wonderful but its always the same 5-6 layered zones

>>152357487
>Everything feels much faster than Dark Souls 2 or 1
Mainly because they just cut off recovery of everything. It just looks weightless and floaty.
BB had a much better feel.

>>152357178
Room cleared, just need help with the boss

This is not the end of me
This is the beginning

>>152358076
Chalice dungeons are easily the worst part of BB to me, but on the other hand it's good that they're there otherwise getting the platinum trophy for BB would be an absolute cakewalk.

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>>152357315
>firstborn child born after gwyn fucked nito
I realise that it's a headcanon pulled straight out of your ass, but holy fuck, it's hilarious to think that THE FIRST THING gwyn would fuck is a gigantic, poisonous pile of skeletons

>>152357972
>but it's good that powerstancing and arenas are gone
Nothing stopped them from giving certain powerstance combinations fancier moves. There was absolutely no need for twin weapons.
>complaining about dirty fast and fair matchups
kill yourself

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>>152358142

The recovery is only shorter or the bigger weapons. Small weapons have more recovery for some weird reason. While the recovery is slower, the speed the attacks chain to each other is faster so the game feels more spammy. R1-R1 is probably than R1-Roll.

>>152358325
literally the only good thing TheCancurld has ever made

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>>152357856
Just slap carthus rouge on this instead

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>>152357271
>Why does everyone keep saying DaS2 has the worst world/level design out of all the games?

World design is better than DS3 imo honestly. However, this is what I felt like was lacking from a lot of Dark Souls 2 levels :

The interconnectivity within areas was often imo pretty crap and as band-aid the developers just decided that putting random-ass bonfires in undecorated, square hidden rooms was a great idea.

Some of the levels like Forest of the Fallen Giants, Drangleic Castle or the DLCs functioned well around one central bonfire, but a lot of the levels just put bonfires everywhere, making the idea of physical shortcuts useless.

I mean, they're useful if you're trying to do that "no resting at a bonfire"-challenge run but besides that it's useless and it reduces the level size when you run between these really short sections. A lot of areas are like a minute's worth of running through and then that's it.

>i'd say DaS2 has way more memorable and interesting areas/settings
Some areas are memorable/interesting, but this is subjective. I liked the DLC areas and a lot of areas in Dark Souls 2 are pretty good, but it feels like a lot of the times that there's very little coherency in design the way Dark Souls 1 feels like the design stays consistent all the time despite the variety within levels and DS3 has a good way to masking the transitory weirdness (i.e the Catacombs).

A lot of the DS2 levels lack a proper vertical element and in combination with sometimes lackluster combat, it doesn't feel like a Dark Souls game at times because the combat doesn't feel satisfying / challenging and the environment feels like a flat board rather than a thing to take into account.

In short :
Dark 2 has a lot of individual areas, but they don't feel like they have a consistent theme and some levels are just criminally short like Aldia's Keep is just a 5 minute corridor. It would've been better to make the areas shorter but with more done with a single level theme.

>>152358381
if they were more randoms (maybe sighly easier to open too) i would enjoy them more
but its always
>underground cavern with 6 layouts

>>152358562

One Spear Knight is pretty cash

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As much as I miss shrug and some other gestures, I actually really like 3's gestures overall.

Curl up / stretch out are fun. By my sword looks cool. Rejoice reminds me of the DeS gesture and is a fun post-battle cheer.

>>152358493
other anon here, arenas were shit for 2 reasons:
1) they had achievements/spells behind them if you didn't want to go to ng++ for your build
2) each loss withdrew rank
those 2 meant that arenas would be exclusively tryhard, mostly unfun matches. the arenas themselves are a great concept and keep honorfags away from pvp areas. instead we have retards dueling/fcing in DEDICATED GANK AREAS. powerstance on the other hand was a great concept, but was either meaningless or broken. the only weapons that had well balanced powerstances we str weapons
full moveset on the offhand was a great loss none the less

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bloodborne or ds3? which one is better?

>>152358783
>I mean, they're useful if you're trying to do that "no resting at a bonfire"-challenge run but besides that it's useless and it reduces the level size when you run between these really short sections. A lot of areas are like a minute's worth of running through and then that's it.

Dark Souls 2 feels a lot better if you only warp from the Primal Bonfires or use Homeward Bones. It makes the game feel like an adventure the same way DaS1 felt. Bonfire warping from the start is one of the biggest mistakes From made in 2 and 3.

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>>152359217
>no decapitate gesture

>>152359217
all of the gesture-related sins From has committed are completely forgiven with rejoice, curl up, and collapse

>>152358325
>All her videos have dark souls comments since then, even of other songs
kek

>>152359310
They are both good.
BB+DLC though is the best thing Miyazaki is ever produced.
We need to wait for DS3 DLC for a proper judgement.

>>152359505
quack quack

>Invade
>Kill the phantom while host is summoning another one
>Kill the second phantom while host is summoning another one
>During all this I chip down at the host every now and then, force him to heal
>Eventually the cops start showing up
>Now killing two phantoms simultaneously while host just keeps throwing more bodies at me
>He must be really low on Estus right now, resorted to healing with miracles
>Draw them out of the bonfire just so he stops summoning phantoms, pops a seed
>Good thing all the enemies were already dead
>Kill his blueberry, white phantom is out of heals and down to 20%, host is all out of heals while I'm at full health with all my Estus
>Host now realizes this can only end in defeat
>Pulls the plug

baka

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>>152359505

Someone please send help to pontiff.

PC, dsg

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Why is DS3 soo poopy?

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>>152359817

>>152359817
frankly, i think bb is a much more annoying chore to deal with than ds3

i've made over 30 builds in ds3 and i have just under 700 hours played, yet i could barely make 4 character with 500 hours in bb

i fucking hate playing through bb. the bosses in that game are nothing but a fucking chore

>>152359929
This is so wrong, jesus christ
I can't believe someone wasted their time to make this shitty image

>>152359336
Warping worked fine in DeS and BB.
I wish they actually went with the bonfire sword mechanic were you could ony collect a certain number in each NG to unlock bonfires, so you had only a handful of warpable areas early on, but lategame/pvp wasn't such a waste of time because of all the running.

>>152359929
this is unbelievably wrong

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>>152359929

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>>152359929
more like this

>>152359817
while i dislike DaS2 , (i dropped it before finishing the first zone)
seems to have the most path choices followed by BB

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>>152359336
>Bonfire warping from the start is one of the biggest mistakes From made in 2 and 3.

Agreed.
It incentivized level design that didn't loop into itself or if it did, there was no point because "lol, warping is faster". A lot of interesting combat situations happened in Dark Souls 1 if you were traveling the levels in the opposite direction. I think it'd be better if Dark Souls 2/3 level designers were given 2 guidelines for level/world creation :
1. Bonfire warp only works TO Firelink from any bonfire but you can only warp from Firelink to the bonfire that's at the start of an area / the boss bonfire.
2. Areas have 1 bonfire and they work through unlocking physical shortcuts. For example, Irithyll will have the beginning bonfire removed as well as the "Central Irithyll" bonfire, the area with the evangelist in it will be turned into a shortcut and the entire area will operate from Church of Yorshka.

>>152360190
>while i dislike DaS2 , (i dropped it before finishing the first zone)

kys

>>152360262
>cathedral of the deep is the best designed locale in das3

did you know it has the most shortcuts out of any one area fromsoft has ever designed? there is a total of 9 shortcuts back to the chapel bf

Any good titles for a STR/FTH character?

All I can think of are "Brother ___" and "Paladin __". And I am looking for a title that is six letters long or less.

>>152359741
i'll try

>>152360409
"Faggot"

>>152360409
>not just naming yourself Fayth

shit taste

>>152360351
reddit is that way

>>152360381
Also, on NG+ or early on with spook you can skip half of the level by jumping in the giant room

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>>152359929

WHY ISN'T THERE A MID-ROLL IN THIS GAME?

WHY IS FATROLLING SO HORRIBLY SHIT?

>enemies hear you faster
>stamina regain lowered
>WAY less iframes
>WAY less distance covered

The armor sets themselves are the heaviest they have ever been for some reason as well

VIT also only gives 1 weight per unit for some retarded reason

Who was the retarded cunt who designed this hot steam pile of shit?

>>152360584
>das2 apologist

fuck off

>>152360550
you can survive the jump with 10 dex and 600+hp

>>152360673
it's one less iframe dude.

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>weapon memory is permanent

>get summoned
>host is wearing lloyd's sword ring
>gets hit LITERALLY every time the boss swings his weapon

For some reason this cracked me up. Unless the shield ring has the exact same glow.

>>152360584

What area loops to the previous area in DaS2?

>>152360742
>das3 apologist

cease existing

>>152359741
>>152360415
i put my sign near the bonfire can you see it?

>>152360827
LSwR has red glow, LShR has a pretty blue glow.

>>152360882
I kinda drew it shittily because I obviously didn't put too much effort. That one connection was meant to represent two ways to get to the same place. Forest of the Fallen Giants --> Lost Bastille or No Man's Wharf --> Lost Bastille.

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>>152360381
>there is a total of 9 shortcuts back to the chapel bf
Let's see if I can remember them :
>the window in the Crystal Lizard yard
>the big double doors after the Grave Warden
>the ladder you kick down to be able to access the Crystal Lizard yard
>the lift shortcut back to the dubbel doors on the side of the chapel
>the backdoor shortcut unlocked from inside of the structure
>drop down to the Crystal lizard yard from the the same place you unlock the backdoor shortcut from
>the bridge you can raise to run to Rosaria quicker from the bonfire

What am I missing?

>>152360409
Brother Dean.

More seriously speaking, I think that Latin names like "Brother Sixtus" or "Saint Urban" would be imo good. Pope names are solid inspiration to look into.

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>can talk about des, ds1, bb and ds3 normally
>when ds2 is mentioned, HORDES of braindead apologists and haters alike flood the entire general ruining the thread completely
Can we separate DS2 into its own general or something? It's fucking insufferable.

>>152360956
I wish these two rings were just "Lloyd's Ring: Gives +5% absorption and +5% AR at max HP"

>>152361149
Sorry, I just meant 9 shortcuts in total, not back to the bonfire whoops.

>>152361167

I like this screenshot very, Very much.

>>152360508
Faggot152360508 is too long for a name.

>>152360525
>Fayth
Sounds fucking retarded like a WoW name. No wonder /dsg/ is shit tier at nam-

>>152361149
>Brother Dean
Thank you, but I chose Martyr as title instead.

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>>152361167
There are more DS3 haters now.

>HORDES of braindead apologists and haters alike flood the entire general ruining the thread completely
That's discussion.

>>152361149
>>152361225
It's a good location but the shortcuts are located just within that one area. Entire world should be more like that.

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>>152360897
Thanks.

>>152361369
I feel like CotD was one the first areas to be designed, in all honestly.

It's completely different from all of the other areas and has a very distinct design aesthetic to it that I can't help but have it remind me of DaS1

>>152361472
Jesus Christ that was close. was that NG?

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>>152361369
Grand Archives is pretty solid too.
ADP would work with 2 bonfires because of the shortcut but they had to cram 3 in because the playtesters are retarded, I guess.

>>152361167
Damn, miyacuckies have no life.
Besides we can't discuss DeS and BB either because of dasdreck.

>>152361558
NG+5

>>152361324
>There are more DS3 haters now.
People hating DS3 are usually defending DS2 at the same time.
I think that most of them are just SOTFS kiddies and typical neo-/v/ rejects who can't discuss anything normally.

Why does RoFaP exist? I would rather have them made 3 separate rings with +15% HP, +20% END, +10 VIT instead

No + versions

>>152361672
This.

The ring is just too good in every iteration

>>152361605
nice, after that scythe guy hit me i put the Shield Ring on

>>152361629
Every game in the series has its rabid haters and defenders
Theres a good chunk of nostalgiafags around who wont have any criticism of DS1 for example
The anti-console BB hate is something that comes to mind

>>152361672
In DS3 it was toned down considerably though. On some builds i'm avoiding it in favor of life+3.

>>152361167
I want to fugg that witch

>Washing Pole
>Doesn't wash poles

>>152362075
engrish was a mistake

What new weapons are you guys hoping appear in the DLC? Any weapons from the other games you wouldn't mind seeing make a return?

Quick question since I havent played DaS3 in a long time, am I supposed to do Cathedral of the deep before I do Abyss watchers? Or after?

>>152362158
Anything as long as it's unique. 90% of the weapons are just copy paste of the class standard with maybe a different WA or one move.

>>152362075
>no wooden sword carved from an oar that oneshots washing pole users

>>152362075
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasaki_Kojirō

>>152362158
Shit like the Red Iron Twinblade. Weapon variety is what made DaS2 fun and kept me interested. Seeing Twinblades not be in this game really hurt.

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>It actually counted
Neato

>>152362175

Before, there's no point in doing the Abyss Watchers earlier unless you need to pick up an item there.

>if you have less than 35 END and Rofap+2 it is impossible to do 3 R1s+roll with some Ultra weapons
>this in the game that copy-pasted Bloodborne enemies

>meanwhile in Bloodborne itself you can swing big weapons faster, quicker, and more times with <20 END

Did some Bamco retard look at Bloodborne and thought it was a good idea to "speed up the game" while leaving half the weapon classes slow as shit?

>Way of White worships Gwyn
>Way of White is cancer
>Sunlight Warriors worship Gwyn's son
>Sunlight Warriors are good
what did Miyazaki mean by this

>want some souls pvp
>can't even run das3
>das2 is 90% katanahexers
Is das2 pvp even alive? I tried BoB arena at sl 150 and 200 characters
is that too much?

>>152362412
dude just summon Eygon

>When yoi finally get summoned as darkmoon but you can't interact with the invader
>3 times in one day
I swear from what the fuck are you even doing with 3, this shit wasn't a thing in previous titles

>>152362449
Organized Religion is trash but personal faith is fine?

>>152361629
>>152361324
Is it true or false that DS3 looks like this? >>152360102
Is it true of false that DS3 went from 130K on launch day down to 8K 3 months later, while DS2 went from 80K on launch day to 18K 3 months later?

Check for yourself, remember to scroll back to 2014 for DS2.
http://steamcharts.com/app/236430
http://steamcharts.com/app/374320

Seems that for a lot of people DS2 has more in common to DS1 than DS3 has with either of them.
They tried to emulate BB too much and ended up with an chugging, roll mashing, R1 spamfest in both PvE and PvP.
Also 18 bosses (+3 are 100% puzzles that get raped by a gimmick)

DS3 is clearly dumbed down, just look how you get teleported to the Dancer after the 3rd soul lord. In DS1 you had to figure out where to put the lordvessel by reading descriptions or talking to NPC and in DS2 you had to figure how to access the giant memories the same way.
Meanwhile in DS3, Miyazaki basically tells you "GO HERE YOU DUMB FUCK"

lol wtf is this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZigtq-YXVA

>soldering iron
>doesn't solder iron

>>152362075
>hollowslayer
>doesn't slay hollow players
>dragonslayer
>isn't any better than other lightning weapons versus dragonfags

>Four-Pronged Plow
>Actually got 5 points

>Winged Spear
>Doesn't have wings

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>>152362579
>Is it true or false that DS3 looks like this?
It looks like this.


>Miyazaki basically tells you "GO HERE YOU DUMB FUCK
I don't know if a lot of that was Bamco interference, but it's very streamlined, I agree. There's pretty much no way of getting "lost" in the game the same way that it was in Dark Souls 1. Basically it went from "experience the world your way", to "experience the world as we intended it" with little to no illusion of freedom or sequence breaking. While this directed experience makes the game great on your first playthrough, it also makes the game feel overly linear and suffocates a lot of the replay value.

>Darkdrift
>Doesn't powerslide through corners at night

>Profaned Greatsword
>doesn't call people nigger when it hits someone

>Great Scythe
>Is in fact shit

>shortsword
>is longer than a greatsword

>Greatlance
>It isn't great

>Claymore
>Doesn't give you more clay

>intelligence build
>used by retarded players

>>152363185
>>152363171
>>152363165
>>152363151
>>152363149
>>152363121
>>152363027
>>152362916
>>152362718
>>152362712
>>152363219
kek

>Pickaxe
>Doesn't pick out an axe for you

>>152361672
See Lautrec's armor, he's the same. It's a meme ring that everyone has to use because they can't let go of it. It doesn't break anymore once unequipped though sadly.

>Bastard Sword
>no way to check it's parentage to confirm it's legitimacy

>Dragonrider Bow
>Doesn't let you ride dragons

>darkdrift
>blade is transparent

>>152362579
>Is it true of false that DS3 went from 130K on launch day down to 8K 3 months later, while DS2 went from 80K on launch day to 18K 3 months later?
Friendly reminder that DS2 DLC was announced barely in a month after DS2 release on PC. Reminder that the first DLC alongside huge DLC patch was released at the end of July 2014. No shit Sherlock, it had more active players preparing their characters for DLC and trying out DLC patches and i can guarantee that DS3 will easily beat those numbers when huge pre-DLC patch will drop.
Take this shit to /v/ where you can easily bait dumb fucktards with it.

>Shield of Want
>Isn't a needy GF

>>152363104
You can see they changed this somewhere between DeS/DaS amd the others. Any non -1 world isn't balanced according to the others, while there's nothing stopping you from reaching Ash lake pre vessel.

Meanwhile you need to go out of your way to grind SM in 2 to screw yourself over or progress at a specific pace in BB or 3

>Eleonora
>is not a hot grill, just a shitty axe

>Dark Hand
>Is red

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Reminder not to attend FCs hosted here.

>mail breaker
>can't destroy letters

>>152362579
>chugging, roll mashing, R1 spamfest in both PvE and PvP
sounds exactly as ds2 pvp to me
only you had basically infinite stackable lifegems on top of it

>>152363104
This game would be 5 times better for me if the entrance to the Catacombs was somewhere in that area with skellys where the Velka statue is and the Abyss Watcher path ended at them, would make the game map look less like a stick.

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>>152363351
kek

>>152363536
If a host a PC FC BF would you come?
I'm not in your super special list yet

>Great Scythe
>It's not a scythe

>Harpe
>Doesn't let you harvest stuff

>Shotel
>Doesn't show or tell anything

>joke
>it's actually unfunny

>Greatsword of Judgement
>Doesn't let you judge people

>>152363560
>lifegems
>pvp

Yeah, 5HP/sec will surely save you from a 500 damage hit while you're at 100 HP.
In DS3 you can chug in front of a guy, get hit and unless he has an UGS, your health will still be more than before the Estus. In DS2 you'd be dead because Estus takes 2 seconds to heal.

Same goes for bosses, in DS3 if you chug through a hit you just wasted the estus, in DS2 if you chug through a hit you're dead.

>Greataxe
>Shorter than Shortsword

>spotted whip
>just like any other wip when you find them

>>152362638
5:56 damn

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>>152362579
DS2 = "connected" world (not really though), shit level design
DS3 = Linear world (to be honest, didn't even notice it until someone pointed it out), great level design

Anyway the 2 DLC aren't even out yet so this argument is pointless

>>152363560
Estus only matters for invasions, and you shouldn't be dying during them.

>>152363908
>5HP/sec
500HP over 11 seconds
stackable
with fast as fuck usage animation
and that's just a basic lifegem
lying ds2 tards are so cute

>Zweihander
>can einhand it

>Club
>Won't let you clubbing

>/dsg/
>beats jokes to death like reddit

>>152364056
Who cares if the world is less linear when the levels themselves are bad? I will never understand DS2 apologists

>>152364090
oh yeah i sure love ds2 invasions with more host advantages than in ds3 and no full orb

>partizan
>is not a cheese

>>152364093
DS2 just doesn't give you the stamina to get enough distance for gems unless it's a 2v1 with an invader.

>>152364056
>DS3
>great level design
kek

>>152363908
Actually, in 2, if I don't wait until 30% to chug like a retard and take a sippy, I'll heal both the damage I had and the damage the boss dealt. Even worse if you used something like a blessing which made you heal pretty much any damage during the next 5 seconds.

>>152364187
Watch them desperately defending even the shittiest areas like Gutter.

>>152364056
Unless the DLCs can be accessed after Vordt or somewhere in the Undead Settlement, the start of DS3 still gonna feel like a 3 hour Asylum.

>>152364374
>the dlc is released
>it takes 3 days for someone to figure out how to access it

i would laugh so fucking hard

>>152364250
the only thing you need to do in ds2 in order to heal successfully is to bait one attack from your opponent
he won't be fast enough to punish you for restoration stack after that

Is it worth respeccing my 60 Int sorcerer to Int/Faith to be able to use miracles and advanced pyromancy? What's the ideal stat spread to get the best of everything? Also, are there any Faith-scaling weapons on par with the MLGS?

>>152364210
But the host is at disadvantage in DaS2 invasions, what are you talking about? Invasions are rarely a gank, seeds are hard to come by unless you dupe them and they can lose the souls they're holding.

>>152364251
This. Don't know why people think just because the areas are bigger that means it's better.

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>>152364251

>>152364438
I hope the DLC is a banner item that you take to the Batwing Demons and they carry you to it.

>>152364482
>Irithyll
>Good
the fuck m8

>>152364454
>host is at disadvantage in DaS2 invasions
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
>soul memory
>finite orbs you need to farm or increase your sm
>cannot use any switches, open 90% of doors or operate 90% of elevators
>cannot phase through any enemies effectively locking you out of parts of the levels
>seeds
>cannot heal with consumables while host has 10 types of them 9 of which go to 99 stack
>host and his butt buddies are able to turtle in warmth which is even harder to punish than estus in ds3
>even if host dies he won't lose his souls because 90% of playerbase is rocking ring of sacrifice you can repair
>invasion time limit
>npc phantoms with 5k hp and infinite spells everywhere in sotfs
Anyone who thinks DS2 had good invasions deserve to get stuck in that shit game for the rest of their lives.