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Tyrande Edition

>What's new?

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20212896/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-august-9-2016-8-9-2016

>Starcraft maps, Alarak and Zarya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUZBAOmzBh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAXqZIBeS40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhaPVdG7fQ

>Where do I find you panda-loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Do you have a discord?
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

>What hero should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see what types you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

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kys
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>>152234615
I don't know man. They're all so tall.
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>>152234752
Shhh, don't be mad.
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Is this game dead yet?
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>>152234991
Was it ever alive?
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>>152235059
At first, kinda.
But at least the porn is good.
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>>152234667
>>152234752
>>152234991
>>152234801
>>152234934
>>152235059
>>152235142
killing the general 1 shitpost at a time
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>>152235152
But how do you kill that which is already dead?
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>152235152
We are grateful for your contribution.
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You love, you lose.
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>haha dude fanart and waifufagging lmao
>le game is le dead
>reddit
There, I summed up 750 posts
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>>152235808
Looks like a dozen posts at best. 12 = 750? Like being at university.
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I do my dailies vs. AI so I can breathe out of my mouth and do whatever I want and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
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Tyrande is the cutest! Also best waifu and most fun to play.
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LUNARA
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>>152237204
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we still meme in up in discord for people who arent in it yet
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>>152238014
>xLegolas99x
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Are there any penalties for dodging during draft?
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>>152240742
For unranked, no. For ranked, I think you lose a fuckton of points after you do it a couple of times. Like, 300-400 point losses per dodge. I don't know for sure, though, since I've never dodged myself.
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>>152235808
Underrated post
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>>152240742
I once got -600 for dodging, FeelsBadMan
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why is there no robots in this game?
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>>152235808
>no mention of WoW lore discussions
Terrible summary
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>>152238207
That is pretty damn retro desu.
Almost like xXxNe0th30neXxX
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>>152243038
Dehaka has robot skin.
Can't think of too many sentient robots in Blizzard games though.
There's the SC Adjutant and Overwatch's Bastion and Zenyatta.
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>>152243251
I'll keep it in mind for the next thread.
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Do you get rewards for doing placements in both HL and TL? Or only the highest? The mounts, gold rewards etc
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>>152243475
SC also has Talandar and the purifier protoss faction in general.
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>>152243038
>mecha tassadar
>mecha dehaka
>gazlowe's backpack

ummmm
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>>152243687
Both. And you get mount just by participating in TL, where in HL you have to hit plat at least.

So make sure to play at least placements in TL
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>tfw WC dragon are just too big guys for the game
At least we have Chromie and Brightwing ._.
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>>152240742
this >>152241051
plus you get leaver status and you have to play a few quickmatches to get rid of it again
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>>152235152
shitposting is the essence of /vg/
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Welcome to
TOWERS OF DOOM
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>>152246301
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>152246086
>tfw we'll finally have Kerrigan in a ghost suit
feels good.jpg
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why this game runs like ass .My god i like to play but optymalization is beyond shitty
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>>152247163
SC2 engine?
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>1 nuke can wipe 2 towers and the gate
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>it's a "captain doesn't ban Vikings on Garden of Terror" episode
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can someone explain talent quests? havent played in awhile and just saw this
how often do they come up? per hero? / daily
gold reward?
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>>152247798
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hots+talent+quests
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>>152248016
i not going to reddit to read 500 posts
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>>152247798
>>152248264
literally play 1 (one) game of HotS, most heroes have one
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>>152248264
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>boss is bugged
embarassing desu
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is there ever any reason to not take Gathering Power on this educated gentleman here?
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>>152248829

Spider Cluster.
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>>152248829
>the only Troll we will ever get in HotS
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>>152249157
>troll
It's actually a nigger with a mask
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>>152248984
elaborate. GP seems to work way better.

>>152249279
>the only troll we will ever get in /hotsg/
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>>152248829
rate my fan-made skin
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>>152249446
>not superman
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>>152249319
You die you lose your stacks which makes it a gamble.
The spiders do low damage but often making gathering power as a % modifier useless, the same goes for zombie wall but using it as damage is not it's main focus so this is minor.
Leaving only your toads as the main benefactor but again without toads of hugeness and landing them at a good distance the damage increase again isn't large.
Gargantuan has a good synergy with gathering power.
Spirit leaves you too open to dying and losing your stacks as it makes you stationary, making it's use increase on the gamble factor of gathering power.
If you don't take spider cluster then leaping spiders becomes alot less effective and the other talents in that tier are lack luster in my eyes.
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>>152249446
I would buy it anon
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>>152249569
I understand. I don't agree, but I understand. I usually take Gargantuan because I like RNG AI and screaming at my monitor at 2AM
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>win every teamfight but ONE
>lose the entire game

defend this
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>>152250849
>fail to dodge all cars in your life but ONE
>die

defend this
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>>152249446
Should be Illidan desu senpai.
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>>152244840
That's the second worst drawing of ragnaros i have ever seen
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>>152252040
whats the worst one
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Finally got Auriel to level 10
I like her third colour best
Going to use her and Rehgar as my go to supports

Also post 'em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEVJjH1I3s4

no bully pls
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>>152252914
holy shit eric you're full on autistic aren't ya
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>>152253029
I said no bully!
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>>152252914
these are the trans pride colors desu
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>>152252914
Which are your favourite heroes?
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>>152252914
livin the dream
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>>152252914
What are the hearts?
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>>152253847
I like playing support the most if i'm playing as a party Rehgar is my fave I used to really like Uther too but since they reworked his talents it gimped the wave of light spec I played the most so I don't really use him anymore.
For duo and solo I usually like to play Xul if he doesn't get banned

>>152254002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWa-6g-TbgI

>>152254218
Their heroes on my favorite bar for quick selection in unranked hero and team league
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>>152252914
Dude, cmon...
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>Want zarya
>Know I have more than enough time to save up gold
>Don't really feel like playing at all

feels bad
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>>152255348
>want Alarak
>already have 5K gold and several level 9s coming up

feels good ;^)
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>>152255348
Why do you want Zarya if you don't want to play in the first place? Logic intensifies.
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>>152250959
>the car which hits you (and its driver) previously got hit five times
>yet it kills you if your car (and you) gets hit a single time by that car
Defend THIS!
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>>152255606
The game burns me out from time to time and I tend to stop playing for a while
But I want zarya, and I don't want to come back 3 months from now and miss out on playing her
I wanna get her on release or at the very maximum 2 weeks later, but I really don't feel like playing right now
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>>152255518
>level 9s
??
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>>152255723
if you think you can afk and snooze off because you dominated early and mid game, you deserve to lose

>>152255809
heroes getting to level 9
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>>152248829
is there ever any reason to pick this hero over xul or zag or even abathur
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>>152255837
oh wow, that gives gold now
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Saving up now, last buy was Morales. Choices are now sylvanis, kael, and anub. All are fun, but which would be better to practice with? Currently only ever play QM so I can practice for league.
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>>152256875
kael is instabanned most of the time so don't even bother
sylvanas and anub are aight
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>>152256959
>>152256875
yeah but its QM

kael just got nerfed though, he's not as retarded strong as he used to be
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>>152257046
i know it's QM, but he wants to practice for HL
it'd be a shame if he poured time and effort into mastering something that he most likely won't be able to use, even after the nerf he's still pick/ban
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>>152255731
I know, the people I usually have in my team are fucking atrocious, bad to the point I even think why the fuck do they bother to even play the game
Blows my mind

But, fuck, Alarak seems fun
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>>152256959
I knew he was a usual target for bans but I always thought it was an exaggeration on how often. I run xul and Johanna so both play styles were pretty similar. I think anub would have a bigger impact since people seemed to go full retard with assassin choices.
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>>152257545
I went from Gold 1 with 40 points towards the end straight to Gold 2 at abour 50% points, so I stopped playing altogether
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>>152256180
is there ever any reason to do anything but play TLV on Gardens (and dodging draft on every map that isn't Gardens)?
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>promo game to plat 3
>some russian on my team picks Sgt Hammer
>mfw winning anyway because kinkybug can't lose
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When will Blizzard get a proper MMR system instead of this joke of a system they have right now?
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>>152257805
Yeah I'm at the verge of that, I don't even know what heroes use now
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>>152258032
>tfw just had an amazing aram game with hammer
eheh, ez >:D
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>>152261253
I need to play more ARAM desu, it's so fun.
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>>152256875
kt isn't banned/picked much anymore. i wouldn't prioritize him.
sylvanas is very strong on spiders, battlefield and shrines.
anubarak is very good against comps with magical damage.

also you should play some unranked, since the team comps and playstyle are pretty close to what you willl encounter in hero league.
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>>152256875
if youre going to get into ranked, buy sylv, play UD and forget that QM exists
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>>152261748
Alright, kaels on the back burner for a while then. Anub will come first, then sylvy. What are their respective prices at the moment? I haven't been in the shop in a while.
>>152261909
I'll probably just use it for practice. Sometimes it's nice not to be forced into a role cause your team needs it.
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>VP into RoF
>kills 3 of your own team

EU pro plays are... odd.
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>>152262889
the retards were positioned badly, also clutch divine shield
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>>152262808
i'll tell you again, dont play qm. there's no practice in qm. how can you practice anything if you dont have a tank or a healer? how can you practice drafting, which is like the most important part of hero league? qm is a shitfest of dicerolling, just accept it
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>>152262808
Nigga qm is just for quests or fucking around.
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1 tank 1 support forced in QM when?
I don't want to spend 5 minutes drafting before every game
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>>152264889
hopefully never, qm serves its purpose pretty well.

>I don't want to spend 5 minutes drafting before every game
play a different game
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This game is fun I should have gotten into it earlier, and also easy as fuck compared to Dota and I ain't even good at Dota, in it I am a Techies picker who never touched ranked at all unless my friends were playing with me
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>>152258032
Did they fix him?
Last time I tried him he kinda sucks. But that was somewhere around the Li Ming release if not earlier.
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>>152265419
is techies a class or a hero, I dont know anything about dota
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>>152252040
Post it nigga.
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>>152265041
>play a different game
Yeah I think I will, just like most of the people who have tried this game
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>>152265746
Techies is a hero, kind of like Abathur but shittier.
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>>152265746
Goblin techies is a hero. They lay mines and blow themselves up.

And most heroes do have a name but are referred to by their title(s).
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>>152249569
>The spiders do low damage but often making gathering power as a % modifier useless
do you even know how multiplication works anon
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>>152264889
it could do to be more balanced at least

sometimes you get 5 assassin and sometimes you have 2 tank 2 support

you could mix those two games together to get two non-retarded team comps
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So Alarak and Zarya are coming in September then we get Samuro in October as a hero to bridge the gap between the Gamescon reveals and Blizzcon.
I wonder what they'll show at Blizzcon this year. Hopefully at least three new heroes like last year.
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>>152265746
goblin techies is the best hero in dota
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>>152268194
Varian in Blizzcon
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>hero who is actually three heroes
>hero who doesn't fight himself but spawns minions
>hero who is played by two players
>hero who is a squishy but is supported by tanky companion
What other ideas could Blizzard come up with?
Hero who replaces the core?
Hero who builds and repairs the forts/keeps?
A hero who is not on the map at all but controls the minion waves?
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>>152269421
>check out what's happening in Legion
>everybody dies the expansion pack
>or if they're Thrall then they just retire
Are they ending the WC story?
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>>152269839
Well apparently they finally admitted "1 year every expansion" is not possible, and seem to focus on longer expansions with constant relevant content.

Honestly, unless Legion really makes good $ I wouldn't be surprised if they delay the expansion after it for 2-3 years.
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>>152269683
>Hero who replaces the core?
Ragnaros and the Overmind.
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>>152269683
>A hero who can choose their Role at level 1, each with different ability kits
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>>152269683
Hero that has no mana but just cooldowns
Hero that has like mana bar but it's not actually mana and it's filled by an arbitrary trait or thing that you do anyways.
Hero which the mana bar is actually the hp bar
Hero that is actually a nigger or gay
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>>152270570
Diablo Druid?
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>>152270021
They need an overhaul. The game looks like dated shit.
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>>152269683
only aba and cho'gall are unique there

TLV and Misha are just worse versions of Dota heroes
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>>152270570
So every hero after a rework
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>>152270754
That would be a good choice, he'd have a lot to choose from from summoning animals, casting molten boulders, fissures, volcanoes, and tornadoes, various Nature Spirits and vines, and of course shapeshifting.
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>>152271057
And Warcraft already has a druid so let Diablo have a turn.
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>>152270936
>TLV are in dota
Really?
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>>152271057
They could also do the Diablo 1 heroes that way desu.
At the start of the game you choose between warrior, rogue or wizard.
Warrior is typical tank.
Wizard is a burst assassin.
Rogue is a specialist type.
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>>152271057
No idiot, he will have

-a ball that rolls
-a spirit that heals you
-a crow that hit an enemy and makes it slow

then ultimate's are:
-a tornado that spin in place push enemies back
-a volcano that spills fire randomly and rarely hits anything

If you dislike it go buy a skin you piece of shit this is HOTS
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>>152271784
I know.
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>>152271212
meepo the geomancer

he starts out as one dude but as you level up you get more, up to 5

also each clone has separate cooldowns on his active abilities: they have a sort of shitty skillshot root (but when there are 5 clones throwing it at you they can get 100% uptime on it lmao), and each clone can teleport to any other clone, doing damage on arrival
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>>152272132
>hero who is actually 3 heroes (with separate death timers)
>hero who becomes up to 5 heroes (and dies if one of his clones gets killed)

mobas is the same
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>>152271453
>no no guys its okay, I go tank
>match starts
>Rogue
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>>152272352
Yeah they're not exactly the same. TLV is clearly based on Meepo, but easier/more forgiving to play (no active abilities without talenting into them, getting 1 killed doesn't kill the others...)
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>>152269683
specialist utility hero who has a short death timer and no mana, but using abilities stacks seconds onto the death timer.
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>>152272496
>no I play wizard only. If you don't agree then I go AFK.
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>Auriel
>Tyrael
>Angelic diablo
>Angelic Valla

Who is the 5th for the angel meme team?
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>play qm: get retards in my team who are unable to kill artanis 3v1 i ended up top damage with chen although we have kt and gul'dan
>play unranked: get outdrafted by own team's meme slug firstpick and tryhard enemy 4-stack and lose all we had was one 2-stack
all i want is a few chill games with chen
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>>152275613
Which rank?
Because in silver, Chen is my "I win" button
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>>152275375
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>>152275978
>cocky butt-slut
>angel

lmaoing at your taste, life choices and overall existence right now
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>>152234667
Dat ass, though
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>>152234667
Well, I for one think that Kael'Thas is cool and WoW fucked him up bad, just so they could have him as another shitty boss.
I miss ethereal shit from WC3, btw.
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>>152278726
>tfw played Blood Elves before Kael became evil
>all those robots in Silvermoon hailing he m
Good times
>>152275375
Imperius once they add him.
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>>152279009
My bloodnigga.
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How do I play Tyrande?
This is becoming like LoL where if you don't have a dash/blink you're a useless hero
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>>152279009
He was evil when blood elves were released in BC.
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>>152278726
>shitty boss
Tempest Keep is one of the best raids in the history of MMOs
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>>152238207
an insanely ironic username
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fucking voice chat WHEN

how am i supposed to play sylvanas when I can't call out mind control to my team without pinging like a madman or stopping to type
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>>152279382
Now, now... I mean as making him evil so players can kill him.
He was a great tragic hero in WC3, no reason to make him go evil other than fuck me in the ass with a chainsaw, if you know what I'm saying.All because MUHMAGIK thirst!!!!
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>>152279231
Wasn't his first raid added only later?
And the Blelfs only started hating him after the Sunwell raid when fel Kael tried to summon Kil'Jaiden into the world.
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>>152280950
None of BC made any sense.
Why was Illidan bad again?
Why did we need to kill him?
He was just shilling in Outland.
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>>152281575
All the raids were released at launch except ZA, BT and Sunwell. He was mostly "evil" when the BEs joined the horde because they you went off to fight him, so after level 20 when you leave the BE starting zone to go to pledge your loyalty to Thrall.
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>>152255731
It's ten bucks. Just pay the blizzard Jew.
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>>152281859
>shilling

Jew pls
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>>152282146
>big noses
>big ears
>hate "younger" races
Are night elves the Jews of WC?
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>>152284447
I AM
DEHAKA
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>>152284447
MMMMMMM, DELICIOUS ASSANCE
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>get the typical post-buff kerrigan shitter on team
>doesnt know how to combo
>keeps E'ing literally 2 seconds after he W
>keeps pinging me because "he has more dmg"
>we lose game so he starts whispering me shit talking and bragging because hes higher ranked than me
>tell him i dont play ranked since i dont like the state of the matchmaking
>i also may or may not have called him a faggot
>get him on the enemy team next game
>hes playing kerri again
>im on mah nigga greymane
>proceed to wreck their asses

is there a better feel?
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COLLECTED
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>>152279204
>don't position shitty
>don't need blink to get out of shitty position
that's how you play every ranged hero. you're welcome.
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decided to try hots out, it's pretty fun so far. Any reccomended sites for build guides until i figure out the ins and outs of the game?
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>In the next patch, you'll be getting a free hero, whether you're a new or current player. You'll essentially be able to choose between 3 heroes and if you have those 3, you'll be able to choose from another 3. If you own every hero, you'll get gold instead.

http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/22529-gamescom-interview-with-ka%C3%A9o-milker-and-travis-mcgeathy/
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>>152286295
Quit it while you can
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>>152286295
HotSlogs will tell you generalized pick and win rates that you can sort by league.
If a talent ever has a 70% or greater pick rate, you should probably always take it unless one of the lesser pick talents has a clearly specific scenario that you happen to find yourself in.
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>>152286295
Don't quit it while you can, new maps in September.

I'd recommend Hotslogs but the owner is a cunt. Heroesnexus is the only other place I know of, but honestly, there isn't any need for guides really. Assuming you aren't dumb, you kind of figure things out for yourself as long as you're attentive to what each talent does and what it means as far as interaction vs. opposing heroes OR synergy between your own abilities goes.
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>>152286295
if you are not too dumb to set up adblock
http://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroAndMapStatistics
click a heroe, then set all leagues >> master & diamond and scroll down

not sure about the builds from the sites in the OP. most are probably outdated.

some pros/streamers have tierlists with builds. might be outdated as well. here are two
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UHCxA5ITmhhufV41O1QsFvFDm61abFqsa1TfR5SePNM/preview
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QGE5bT2790AcoSnUUerg2ywVcAetaznDpgvgk4RSDq8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1128580542
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>>152286295

idk if the adblock jewery has been fixed but hotslogs shows percentages of hero win rates, percentages people took X talent, percentages of win rates with X talent taken.

Keep in mind when reading those stats, certain talents are better against certain comps and might be selected for oddly specific situations. Some things can be a bit misleading. But it's a nice guideline.
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>>152286538
>it lists the heroes to you 3 at a time from the lowest gold costs until you are forced to pick one you don't own yet
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>>152250849
If you think that's bad, you should see Dota 2. Especially back on patch 6.82.
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>>152287434
How bad was it?
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>>152286295
>>152286785
>>152287020
>>152287386
thanks a bunch guys, i'll check evereything out
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>>152286538
Even though this is obviously a move made out of desperation, this is good as hell and will pretty much cement me coming back to play once the new maps come in.
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>>152286538
Time to spend my 40k gold and buy all the sub 10k heroes
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>>152286538
>valla
>raynor
>malfurion
>>
QUEST REROLLING WHEN?
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why does Khaldor cast like an MP40

his speech pattern is as if he's about to mow down a line of russian POWs
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>>152272132
>>152272573
TLV are nothing like Meepo and only blithering idiots see "hero in multiple places" and think they are anything alike.
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>BoE
>everyone is blaming someone else for failing when we're actually holding our ground reasonably well
>both teams 1 fort down, other forts are at 50%
>tell team to get their shit together and give it their best so we can WIN this game
>mfw they actually do, and we ride next Immortal all the way to core and win

guys what if Raynor's W actually works on real life people.
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>>152291218
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>>152291563
if the Raynor/Illidan combo wasn't so vulnerable to blinds, I'd play it more often. giving that mini stimdrone to elf man of many flips and peeling for him has that kinda buddy cop movie feel to it, like they're Jackie Chan and Owen Wilson opening fire on some hired thugs.
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>DOOM
>20 seconds into the game
>our Raynor dies
>"oh boy, gonna be one of those games, huh?"
>check talents
>he's specced marksman
>"well atleast that's good"
>check opponent
>hammer specced reduced CC
>I'm playing falstad, and the only one in the team able to cc
>my team plays pretty shitty the entire game
>enemy team plays even worse
>sylvanas keep rushing into me and stays put even at low health
>illidank keeps rushing into 1v3+ situations
>hammer can't aim for shit and dies to minions over and over
>we win every altar
I just

What
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>>152287020
>>152289250
>>152289316
i doubt it will be more than 4k gold if you already own all 6 heroes
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>>152289316
new players with that few heros are already starting in a much better situation. there's not a lot really even necessary at 10k like it was a year ago

>>152289450
try logging in at least every other day and ignoring what you don't like? they are turning draft modes into a wildcard to complete quest so there's almost no point.
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why is my team so retarded

blackheart's bay and they totally ignored all coins forever

whenever we had enough coins for a turnin they would charge into some retarded 3v5 fight top and lose all of them

when the enemy team had enough coins to turn in they would all be AFK in lanes and never attempt to group as 5 to defend it

when we killed 4 at the turn-in our two surviving guys went off to kill camps while leaving the treasure chest completely untouched

then the enemy team took the chest and won the game off of it
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>>152292569
You seriously gotta infer more than that, man. It's 3, then another 3, then another 3 so on unless you have literally all the heroes (in which case it's probably 10k gold).
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>>152292743
>The Tank from enemy team is hoarding coins like crazy
>Has about 23 and they are kicking our asses
>Gank him once
>mfw
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>>152270638
>Hero that has no mana but just cooldowns
Aba, Illidan, Murky, Vikings, Chogall
>Hero that has like mana bar but it's not actually mana
Chen, Sonya...
>Hero which the mana bar is actually the hp bar
Guldan
>Hero that is actually a nigger or gay
???
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>>152293015
You greedy bastard.
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>>152292472
>get our asses handed to us every other fight
>luck out and get a lead
>20-1
>they start gitting gud and fuck us over hard
>1-1
>final altar
>they just let me channel and cap it in the middle of a team fight

this map does things to players. strange things.
>>
How is Gul'dan by the way?
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>>152270638
there is no way Aleksandra "I eat u like borscht xaxaxa" Zaryanova is straight.
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>>152293207
>Hero that has like mana bar but it's not actually mana
And Tracer.
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>>152289316
>>152292734
>>152287412
"Initial selection is Tyrande, Anub'arak, and Thrall. If you own one or more of those, there are three other heroes that will backfill in so you have options. If you own all 6, you'll get gold instead."
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>>152293207
>Hero that is actually a nigger
Tyrael, Nazeebo
>or gay
kharazim
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>>152294046
>Monk
>Gay

If anything he is canonically a virgin because monks do that
>>
>
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>>152293827
and auriel
and zarya
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>>152294138
>christian religious authority
>NOT diddling little boys
nice meme
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>>152294606
>1001 gods
>Christian
Nice meme
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>>152294138
>i am the fist of the gods
>fist this
>fist that
yeah no you cant fool me
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>>152294915
His mind is clear, you degenerate.
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According to a few pics I've seen, the gay characters are Sonya and Johanna
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>>152295182
his colon is clear as well from all that fisting
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>>152293929
>Tyrande, Anub'arak, and Thrall
What's the gold cost for these?
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>>152295889
if sonya is futa, is that really gay?

haven't seen any gay Johanna iirc
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>>152296650
7 4 7
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>>152293929
source
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>>152295889
>implying Sonya and Johanna don't spot each other at the Nexus gym
>implying they don't hang out afterwards
>implying Sonya doesn't try mack on all the ladies with the cheapest pick-up lines, but has literally no game because barbarian autism
>implying Johanna doesn't have literal hundreads of secret female admirers but none of them are worthy
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>>152296650
Goolge it
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>>152296902
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4yjhon/gamescom_interview_with_ka%C3%A9o_milker_and_travis/
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>>152293929
>>152297224
>my favorite character is going to be passed around like a cheap whore
This is beyond kinky.
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>>152295889
>johanna
>gay
Naw, she's just a strong independent woman who from time to time wants to feel like a flower by someone tall, muscular with a strong hairy chest and a nice beard
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>>152296792
FOUR MANA SEVEN SEVEN
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>>152298143
Glad you could make it, Uther~
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>>152298143
wow I didn't know she was into werewolf chicks

kinky
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>>152275613
And me and duo que partner just want some chill games with tyreal + greymane
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>>152293015
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>>152234667

Dicks out for Tyrande.
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why is ARAM so fun lads?
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"That's as risky as a Heroes of the Storm game can be, because you either win or you lose"

I love Grubby
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>>152301195
always, she is a goddess
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>>152286538
its way too late to stop being so jewish with this game
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>>152301195
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Zarya is cute and strong
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>if you're not in range to cast the ability it doesn't cast at all
>instead of just casting it at max range
garbage
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>>152301940
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>>152301964
thats why i never play tyrael
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>>152286538
>be incredibly autistic and don't want to own anything which isn't either from sc or diablo
>this happens

I know it's gonna be fucking Malfurion
I don't want him REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>35 Minute game with Vikings
>barely win
>don't play them for a week out of exhaustion
>40 minute game with Vikings
>barely win
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>>152275978
She's no angel
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I LOVE KERRIGAN
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>>152301964
I prefer it that way desu famalam. If I want to cast it at max range I just cast it at max range. If the target is just out of range, I cast it on them so I walk just close enough to cast it before backing up.
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>>152293524
He's like Kael'Thas but way worse in every way
>>
Why is Falstad so much fun
>specc marksman
>specc secret weapon
>hammer gains
>nexus frenzy
>right click, Q, 1, lean back and watch everything melt
Best ranged assassin desu
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>>152303205
I like him too, but I love Gathering Storm+Boomerang. It's so fun to stack that Hammerang to be devastating
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>>152301940
Oh thanks! I was looking for that pic

I already have this one
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>>152303491
>tfw played against another falstad last game
>he went gathering storm
>dodged his hammers all game
>check talents after the game
>he went same build as I, other than gathering storm
But why

Also, never tried mage Falstad, will def do that next game if we don't have a spellcaster
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>>152301940
I want her and Sonya to spitroast me...
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>>152304825
is her dick bigger than sonyas?
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>>152305012
shorter, but thicker
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>>152304825
you aren't alone anon...

>tfw no buff amazon waifu to muscleworship
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Laser or odin tychus?
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>>152305376
odin because nukes
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>>152252914
>tfw used to have game running on laptop afk training while I play on an alt
>got most heroes to 9 this way
>havent even gotten the new heroes to 5 since they removed it
why blizzard, it didn't hurt anyone
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>>152301964
you can aim outside of max range for some abilities like zeratul blink or sylvanas banshee thing
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>>152284447
SO MUCH ESSENCE
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>>152305376
Lase because autoattacks.
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Where do you faggots find your HotS porn?
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>>152305376
Beam for low ranks, odin for higher
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>>152308051
>literally every Tychus in the Fall Championships picked Laser Drill
>dude lazer is low ranks lmao

why are you like this
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>>152308270
>tourny is same as pub games
ebik :DDDDD

DotA all over again.
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>>152308359
>laser is always chosen in situations where there is large amounts of teamwork and communication
>now choose laser where none of that exists
The only reason i'm in support of this line of action is because odin is even worse with zero teamwork.
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>>152308359
I dunno why you would take an ult that reduces your DPS and your survivability for 10 seconds of doing something (badly) that Tychus isn't made for. just play KT if you like Odin.
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>>152308359
Nobody in pub games plays Tychus.
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How long will Machines of War run and how many new heroes can we expect? Four total like Eternal Conflict?
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>>152309362
I just hope we get another protoss hero for brotoss action. Already have enough for a zerg rush and terran team.
>>
Safe to assume that Thrall and Tyrande will be dropping to 4k in the next patch. And the other 3 heroes that you can choose from if you own Thrall, Tyrande and Anub will be 4k. And then if you own all of them, you'll get 4k gold.

>>152309840
I want that female DT--Always forget her name, but she obviously wants Alarak's dick.
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>>152310707
Vorazun? What would she do different compared to Zeratul?
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>>152310794
Be sexy.

Also if you read the lore of DT, different Protoss factions and read the different unit abilities, there's a lot more. For example the Nerazim DT can blink around and deal large damage across various units in incredibly quick succession.
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>>152310949
So can Zeratul with Blink and the Shadow Fury ult.
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>>152310707
>And then if you own all of them, you'll get 4k gold.
Yeah right. More like 1k
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>>152311052
Have you played SC2? I suggest you at least take a look. And as I said (and you've chosen to ignore) is that there are many more abilities. Also, they [Blizzard] can add anything for HotS.
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>>152305376

depends
on
the
comp
you
are
facing
.
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>>152311171
They've said that you will get the same reward if you own all 6, which will be in gold. It's safe to assume that all 7 rewards are 4k gold.
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>>152311172
Have you? Everything her DT and she can do in-game, Zeratul already does or can do.
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>>152311498
Oh, you're baiting. Glad we can end on a close on you being useless.

>>152311252
Agreed. A shame seemingly many players just have the attitude of "every talent slot has a talent you grab 100% of the time"
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>>152311596
Then please explain on how they could make her kit different than Zeratul's.
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>>152311971
not that guy but,
>>152311172
>Also, they [Blizzard] can add anything for HotS.
you're blind tbqh
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>Starting the day with a promotion match
I'm going to be anally raped today?
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>>152309362
there's two announced + blademaster teased so probably at least 3
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>>152309362
I wouldn't doubt Mengsk being released as a surprised 4th by the end of the event. He's had game files since at least early Beta.
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When?
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>>152313992
I AM HERU AND OBEY.
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>tfw it took me 50 games to get to diamond
are diamond players actually better than the ones in plat?
>>
>>152314931
Everyone from plat 5 to diamond 1 are a mess of skill levels and you won't know what you get until the game starts
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>>152315089
Even grand/master is a bit inconsistent. I've played with people who have been boosted to master (GM is a joke) and some are mediocre. Like a 50/100 (100 being absolute best player) And it's common to see. Rank as a whole is an indication, an average. But by no means a for-sure pin-point measure.
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When will Blizzard fix their matchmaking?
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>>152314931
Rank 1 was easy to get preseason and a HUGE portion of the player base managed to get it.
Everyone who got rank 1 ended up in diamond.
Some ranks 1's were good players. Some rank 1's were shitters that played a lot or got boosted by higher ranked people.
Diamond is a mess of all skill levels right now. No rank decay means that any asshole that did placements and got diamond then stopped playing ranked will still be diamond next season.
It's going to be a long time until players will actually be the skill that the rank will have you believe they should be.
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>>152315558
HAHAHA!

After maiev.
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>>152315686
That's actually a good point. Basically, rank doesn't mean everything. Play with people and judge yourself whether they're good or not.
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>>152315686
I ended up in plat 1 after placements despite being rank 1

I only had like 60 games played in ranked
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who would you want buffed next? i still want some for Leoric
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>>152318538
medic
>>
DED
>>
>>152321953
Yes
>>
Why are there so many fucking Gazlowes today? Is he on rotation? They're all pure garbage as well.
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>>152324762
He was on rotation last week.
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>>152325229
Fucking what. Legit' every single game today has had at least one (sometimes two) of this nigger.

Not going into draft with him swarming everywhere. 99% of players are absolutely clueless on how to play him.
>>
Who is the best announcer and why is it Sky Temple?

>YOU'RE MINE NOW
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>>152327579
I have announcers muted. They're unnecessary and annoying.
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>>152313992
TASTE MUH BLADE
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>tfw 100% hero league winrate with Auriel

Best waifu
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>pull off 4 man mosh with all teammates ready to jump
>no enemy dies the entire fight
Shit like this makes me lose hope in the playerbase.
>>
>>152332149
Played one game?
>>
>>152332149
what the fuck, why does she have a face
that's not supposed to be there
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>>152286538
Time to finally buy ETC I guess.
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anyone got that picture of valla in a swimsuit with the squirt guns? or the name of the artist at least?
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>>152302000
But anon Zarya is literally female /pol/ with pink hair.
And she also lifts.
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>>152333575
Also ugly as sin. Suppose that is a good face for /pol/ and /fit/
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>>152333470
http://g1138.tumblr.com
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>>152309362
I'd say three is more likely. Blizzcon is in early November this year. They'll probably would want to release at least one of the heroes they'll show at Blizzcon the same month.
So Alarak+Zarya in September and Samuro in October.
>>
>>152333960
:D thanks m8
>>
>tfw nigh impossible to get tl placements done since everyone is too scared to do tl
why don't people do 10 games for the ez as fug gold rewards? like c'mon senpaitachi.
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>>152302987
Oh alright, so he's balanced and isn't for fags. Great, I love Gul'dan.
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>>152334824
But KT isn't even imbalanced. And Meme'dan isn't THAT bad and isn't that similar to KT anyway.
>>
>>152334794
>ez as fug gold rewards

Wait what ?
>>
>>152335152
Maybe this is why people don't bother. I feel as if most people are oblivious to the easy gold.
>>
>>152335074
Yeah I know, I was just giving him shit.

I will say KT is retarded easy though. Low risk high reward.
>>
>>152335223
>retarded easy though
Wrong. He isn't difficult. I'd personally say he's mid-tier. MAYBE low mid-tier. The average KT player is shit, even at his "prime" the average player were genuinely clueless on how to play him.

I feel as if he was nerfed a little too hard. But I do like his talent shift/rework. Little more difficult to play, isn't just "slap buttons for kills" and you can go flamestrike build.
>>
>>152335176
>>152335152
Can we get a EU crew going for TL?
>>
NA TL WW@
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>>152335304
>But I do like his talent shift/rework

God. They've spent more attention to KT's talents than they have half the fucking OG roster's combined. What is wrong with these devs?
>>
>>152334794
Just join /lookingforgroup /lfg

And write down that season is ending soon. You will only get bronzies most likely though, I had one b5 master tracer in group and he kept flaming everyone in group who were above gold.

Shit was really weird, after kicking him we went to have 6w 4l an dgot placed in gold 1
>>
is there any chatroom where you can join and grind coop vs ai?
>>
>>152341530
Just doing vs. AI and asking if anybody wants to party up?
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>>152336893
Nobody cares about the other heroes. They'll be replaced by new, superior ones.
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>>152327685
>muting the fun part of the game

but it explains something I come across way too often, even in ranked: players flat out ignoring objective spawns.
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>when you finally hit that +/- 0 personal rank adjustment
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>>152341936
Maybe, I don't know. I feel as if my awareness is very good (heavily evident as a good Abathur player) but maybe. But again most players don't know shit about options. I think average player is just blind in general.
>>
>2lane battleground
dropped
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>>152327685
SUCH DARING.
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>>152343129
>nice looking 2 lane
>massive as fuck 3 lane
looks great tbqh
but against they're starcraft themed so they're automatically good.
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>>152343287
Will be in the future any Overwatch themed map?

It could be weird, but maybe cool
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>>152344843
Could you imagine a map wherein the objective spawns a payload for each team, and reaching the destination destroys the entire outward most section of a lane. Push your own payload whilst also trying to stop them from pushing theirs.

Or a KOTH-style map wherein the objective spawns, an d it's a control point, and the longer your team spends on the point, the more damage it deals to the opposing team's structures by the time the objective timer ends. Reduced spawn timers to compensate for the type of objective it is.
>>
isn't this game dead, why do you bump this general?
>>
>>152345045
Go back to bed, Browder.
>>
>>152345040
Yeah something like that could be interesting
>>
>>152249569
Whats that yu-gi-oh?
>>
So I just played this for the first time today, went training and I played the guy that stealths out of combat with the blink, forgot his name.

This game is fun. Is there something about the meta? Shared XP changes this up a lot and I'm not sure how to go about really learning how this works.
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>>152346079
That's Zeratul.

Not sure what to tell you about the meta, as playing the game is vastly differently than shit that happens in "Pro" games. They're two entirely different things, really. The shared XP changes this game up enough to the point where the difference between a good and bad player, is that a good player will realize when you need to forsake your team to soak experience in an empty lane, they will know when to push a lane when the odds of securing an objective are against you, etc. Etc.
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>>152346079
Welp as a tip to a new player I would say XP is the most important thing in the game

If there isn't anything happening in the match (for example an objective) you must soak XP in the lane

Excessive team fighting is a mistake that new players usually make, for avoiding it, when a team fight is about to start ask yourself "Why are we fighting for"
If the answer is "nothing" or something that just is not woth for (for example, vision) let it go and soak xp
Objectives, buildings, bosses, even mercenary camps sometimes are woth teamfighting for

And onbviosly, for a good team fight you need to be at the same level of your enemy or as much 1 or 2 behind (thats why XP is so important)
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>>152346665
Oh yeah, to add to this guy's post, XP gains from kills start out very low and grow with match time. So what this means is that a kill at the very beginning of a game is worth as much expereince as a single wave of minions. Meaning chasing early kills is fucking worthless, and like this guy said, chasing for kills is basically a trap for new players. Kills for the most part, for the majority of the game, is mostly for denying the enemy team the objective, or picking off one or two people to throw the numbers uneven so, once again, your team has to upperhand over the objective.

It's all about that objective in this game. However, there ARE maps wherein the strength of the objective can be offset purely by rushing a lane or splitpushing, shit like that, because structures give experience. Takes a good player to acknowledge when and when not to play to the objective and shit like that.
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>>152346079
learn the maps and the general economy behind the game, like how much value can you get from getting a merc camp or objective in that precise moment, or the importance of soaking exp and pushing a lane.

or just ignore everything, micro the shit out of your hero and score them kills : icy-veins has some decent guides for each hero.
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>showmatch
>not using 2 new heroes
Why???
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>>152346986
alla bout that dick swinging, gotta fukken express dominance motherfuckerrrr


Esports and Esports-esque events are a joke.
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>>152313992
MY BLADE CAN CUT THROUGH ARMOR

AND STILL CUT A TOMATO
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hey guys am new and neewd help toplay game because it looks cool and has wow peoples and i wanted to play wow people in hots setting.
Ps. backkspace key brokke Also am not joke i seriously would like know
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>>152348884
remap it you stupid cunt
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>>152348884

Don't be baka.
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>>152346079
>buy lili
>always fight for watch towers at the start of the match
This should get you set up
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>>152348884
I know we need bumps... but not like this, man.
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>play vikings
>team feeding hard
>blame me
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>>152286538
>gazlow
>illidan
>jaina

Urgh
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>>152303556
Fucking Brotherhood of NOD
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>Q: There were once legends of a map editor being introduced for Heroes of the Storm. Is that still a possibility?
Who the HECK believes this?
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>>152348961
ok thanks you i am try this now!
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>>152349870
Fuck YEAH.

Not a big fan the alternate colours of his skins. Still prefer his regular on first and master skin.
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How do I into Hammer?
She is the first thing I got with those coin things
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>>152351285
Alarak + Firebat WHEN

Imagine a black hand-like hero where you can toggle/hold down a key to throw flames but you have no basic attack (the skill is your "basic attack"
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>>152346278
>>152346665
>>152346868
>>152349108
Just did a quickplay with a m8. I picked the guy with twin blades and the prism that changes places. Rekt the other guys so hard because we took all the zerker shrines and got that early xp to get swole.

Fun game you got here, wish it was more popular.
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>>152351410
>Firebat WHEN
The new zerg map literally screams for it but what do I know
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>>152352851
Instead we get worst girl
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>>152351390
You don't, shes shit
In fact she is worse than shit
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>>152351390
>coin things
gold?
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>>152286538
>we're looking into
>we're looking into
>we're looking into
>we're looking into
lol
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>Doing draft
>Need to fill
>Guy tells me to use a mage
>Pick Jaina
>Never used her other than AFK training
>Pick talents that sound OK to me, including icy veins
>We won

Is the anal slut useful? Or I got carried hard?
Most likely the second one
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>>152358104
She's pretty good right now, but post your talents

I mean, you need to know how to play with mages
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>>152358342
I don't, that's my problem.
All the assassins I play are mostly AA ones.

Let me see the replay for the talent
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>>152358104
I'M HERE TO HELP
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So I just bought Medivh how is he? I love his design and concept but I am not sure if he would really work out.
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>>152359623
He's good, but is really hard to use

Are you a good player?
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>>152359971
I do pretty good with Tyrande and Tassadar so maybe I guess. But it seems like his kit is more based on his team doing all the work since all you do is set up.
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>>152360535
Yeah, you may do good, but he depends more in his team than any other

But at least the shenanigans are fun
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>>152359623
He is my favourite mage character in the game right now.
Expect to get hated whenever something goes wrong though, especially in quickmeme.
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>>152359623
>>152359971
the question is: are your teammates good enough to use the portals
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>>152361464
>place portal for team to get out
>rexxar manages to walk into the wrong side of the portal twice in a row and gets killed
>omg wtf noob portal medivh
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>>152359623
You can carry most quick matches if you're good with it

You can 1v1 most of the cast and in teamfight you'll pull insane sustain damage
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>infested tychus has baller animations, but has roughly 10% of regular tychus' voice lines, with most of them being monotonous
i am at an impasse
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>>152361841
>You can 1v1 most of the cast
What?
I guess that is the good thing of me being silver, because I've killed Medivhs even with Brightwing
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>>152358104
It worked out his time but you really should NOT pick a hero you are not comfortable with in ranked. Was this unranked? if so, who gives a fuck then, have fun lad.
Not having ANY mages you can play is also shit. Step your game up.
To answer your question, yes she is good now. Comp dependent as most heroes are.
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>>152360785
>Medivh
>Mage
What? Doing spell dmg does not make one a mage.
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>>152362709
You would think being one of the highest regarded mages he would at least be powerful enough to take out enemies fairly easily?
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Haven't played since before Tracer got released. What meta are people complaining about these days?
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>>152364596
Split push meta. Spec class rules this shit.
Shitters can't understand not grouping so be ready to get a lot of salt thrown at you while you win the game for them.
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>>152327579
GUARDIANS
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>>152327579
>LET'S SEE HOW YOU HANDLE TWO CHESTS AT ONCE
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>>152362447
Not to mention his master skin is pure garbage, only arthas master skin takes the take, so you have to shell out money for prisoner or infested.

Also, quite funny if you manage to pull through with tychus and tripling the damage of your the next guy in lane until 10.
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remember the game before they nerfed literally everyone?
I do
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>>152366897
>tass

What a shadow of a former self.
Sure, his archon needed a nerf but man, everyone is now bothering you to take wall in QM but wall sucks DICK in QM
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Remember the game before reddit faggots ruined it because muh balance?
I do
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>>152366897
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>>152367165
Its funny how Blizz didnt want HotS to become esports and wanted a fun game for casuals.
Then they listened to the community.
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>>152367223
kek
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>>152367165
I remember.
Still my highest win rate map.
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>>152367653
>>152367165
wait wait wait

Did they remove this map or what? I just realized I havent gotten that map in ages
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>>152367653
>>152367165
any of you faggots want to do a custom match with haunted mines some time?
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>>152367653
Sylvanas' Mines
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>>152367818
Yes.
>>152367830
No.
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>>152368168
>Yes.
Oh man you will be missed
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Gul'dan is fun as fuck. Why didn't you guys tell me?

I just wish there were more fun diablo assassins. The only fun one I have is Butcher and I keep getting Diablo quests.
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twitch /followgrubby

This talk is actually quite interesting learning a lot about the plans for the game progression.

>Clans incoming
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>>152367165
I miss that Nova and Kerrigan ass during the loading screen.
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TL is so dead queues are 500+secs
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>>152368691
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>>152369447
(eta 2021)
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>>152370307
thats my average hl solo queue and im not even super high ranked. it says 300 but its always more

ded game
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Quick, post your war-face.
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>>152372816
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>>152333138
it's "if you own all 6 of the offered free heroes you will get gold", not "if you own every hero that exists you will get gold"

they're probably all going to be 4k heroes, too
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>>152325272
Then play ranked ?stay out of quick meme
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>>152366897
> 7 death Illidan
Well at least one thing hasn't changed
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>>152372816
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>>152349740
first 3 are anub/tyrande/thrall, they were saying so at gamescom

probably tyrande and thrall will drop to 4k too so they're all the same price
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>>152373683
FOUR MANA SEVEN SEVEN
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>>152373683
Worth buying Thrall just for this?
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>>152372816
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>>152373996
as in you already own the other two?

no. they said all heroes would be the same price, so you would be dropping 7k on a soon-to-be 4k thrall just so you could get your pick of 3 other 4k heroes
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>>152373996
Yeah, even without that deal.
Dont expect to dive in and kill everything though.
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>>152373683
I don't own Tyrande. That's the only one though.
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Also, if you own 1 or 2 of the three then they will be replaced by some of the 3 alternate heroes. You'll always choose between 3.
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>>152374209
But then you'll pay 7k for heroes worth 8k
Seems pretty worth if you ask me
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>>152374987
What?
You only get one hero.
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>>152375131
You get to pick one of three, you pick thrall
Instead, buy thrall for 7k, get to pick another free hero, get two heroes for 7k
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>>152375291
Or, you just pick one, and buy another one of them for 4k
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>>152375291
>spend 7k
>get 2 4k heroes

or:
>get 4k thrall for free
>spend 4k on a second 4k hero
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>mfw a bro falls from silver 4 to bronze 2 this season and you find out he uses click to cast.
WTF DID YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN YOU SCRUBLORD?
Everyone should be using quickcast unless they want t aim something but then at least use on release. NEVER CLICK TO CAST!
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>>152375874
fucking furry kys
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>>152375968
Playing best support =/= to furry.
LiLi posting is a time honoured tradition in these threads and your words don't even touch me.
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>>152376532
>Playing best support =/= to furry.

Well yeah playing Tassagod has nothing to do with being a furry, but that doesn't excuse you from being a Pandapedo
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>>152376680
Tassadar is shit nowadays, you ain't fooling anyone.
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>>152375874
im click to cast and im master rank, what now?
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>>152378372
Change it to quick cast and stop trying so hard.
>>152376680
>implying implications
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>>152378372
you got there with boosting and stayed with forced 50
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>>152375874
>change from quickcast to clickcast
>suddenly advance from bronze 5 to platinum 5
Dumb panda
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>>152372816
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I'd love to hear any reason why adding a click to your skill cast time is in any way better then the alternatives.
Inb4 I'm already used to it or I'm scared of change
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>>152378372
if you've got good enough reflexes you can manage with click to cast
quick cast is almost always better except for in situations where accuracy is a key factor
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>>152375625
>>spend 4k on a second 4k hero
>implying blizzard is fair enough to give you 4k if you have all the heroes
2k at most, most likely 1k
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>>152381960
>implying it won't be 500 at most
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>>152379741
>he can't click as fast as he presses keys
>he can't time his clicks to come right after the key presses
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>>152381960
they literally said they would
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when hotslogs has a really low pickrate of a trait but it has a really high win% doe that mean that it's a highly situational trait to use?
Sorry, I'm just not sure if there are other factors i'm not seeing, so just wanted some clarification
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>>152384732
generally yes

or it means it's a good trait but low-rank shitters dont use it, so filter to master or GM only
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>>152384961
word, thanks a bunch
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>>152382831
Sure they did
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>>152384732
There's also a chance someone accidently took the wrong talent or decided to try it because of the team comps and ended up winning
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>>152385210
from reddit
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>>152384732
Its either very niche so its only picked when the player knows it will win or its very good and all the memesters who only follow standard streamer builds haven't picked it up yet.
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So, I want to play Illidan without being the stereotypical Illidan that is god awful.

But I've never played him and I feel like I am more likely to err on the side of caution.

Any tips? Also, I feel like I am clicking too much. It actually hurts. A+Click the way to go for illidan?
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>>152386660
you're going to suck dick because illidan is reliant on both teams comp
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>>152386827
I basically only do QM. So, just accept fate and stomp when you can, get stomped when you can?
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>>152385341
>>152386160
hmmm, i'll prob worry about this when i know said character better i guess, i can't make the call if i should do it or not rn
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>>152386918
I usually just take whatever the most popular build is and then start changing it after I'm used to the hero
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so this is the power of ranked games...
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>>152386660
>go AI to see how the character works
>go QM and feed a lot
>understand your mistakes and how it works
>try it with an actual comp in unranked
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ANAL
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>>152390640
>put healer into bush to scout
>still don't back when scout spots enemies
classic case of "hey guys! i saw this crazy play in a pro tournament"
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>>152393650
OBLIVION
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>>152379741
caster hitboxes have edge stretching between things like fort+tower. you have to go by individual skills anyway not blanket settings either way because this is a 6.5/10 game and the common sense quick cast stuff isn't even on by default.

>>152386062
normalizing is just so vague a term that could mean anything. makes it sound like they could change a lot of prices.

>>152386660
just chill out, especially on bad QM matchups. his game doesn't really start until forts go down so the early deaths should be objective only. this >>152390640 is what you want to see as illidan so there's no reason to defend hard when you need that distance for kills anyway.
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>>152286538
>Gold
I'm sitting on 67k. I want to be able to buy Master skins with cash, or more gold-only mounts.
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>Alarak's trait
Is this the first anti-trait in the game?
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I literally just lost this game.
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>>152395713
It's actually cool

He does very good damage agaisnt heroes, and you can exchange a part of it for utility
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>>152395713
Gall trait: "you can't control your movement"
Valla trait: "you can't do good damage until you build up stacks"
Hammer trait: "you do less damage to close-range enemies"
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>>152396158
Exactly. Alark's trait is pretty fucking nifty.
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Just getting back into the game.

How are Chromie, Gul'dan, and Auriel?
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>>152396672
Gul'dan is going to be really good
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>>152397697
Going to be? What's changing?
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>>152396672
>Chromie
Outrange everyone but maybe Hammer, have fun relearning how to do skillshots with that time delay. Much hero damage, less waveclear Have the range of a howitzer and the fragility of glass

>Gul'Dan
Life tap gives best warlock a weird resource system where you have to cut yourself to keep doing damage, insanely good waveclear, good hero damage with proper talents, horrify is nice disruption, more deaths as the shortstack gnome since you don't have Chromie's range. Partially remedied with demon gates at 20. Exponentially better with a healer.

>Auriel
Newest hero, so people are still evaluating worth and junk. Healing power will be proportionate to your team's dps, so she rewards being overly aggressive.
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>>152396672
chromie is fun but also kind of bad

she's super dependent on having a tank to peel for her because she can't do anything to people who get up in her face

it's pretty fun to blast half of someone's health away with basic abilities but they're skillshots on 1s and 1.5s delays respectively so you need to learn to predict well (or just force a buddy to pick good disables like xul and enjoy your instakills)
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>>152395446
>hoarding gold
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I've used Zeratul since a long time, and he feels a bit weird, but still is pretty good
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>>152401629
he'll always be good cause his kit is bullshit
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>>152287689

A perfectly viable way to win during that patch specifically was to pick some combination of 4 carries or hypercarries plus an initiator. You could absolutely fucking shitstomp your opponents. Then one fight goes wrong and they're 3 times stronger than you even if their gold/XP is now identical, because Dota has the most extreme power spike differences of the whole genre without a doubt.

It's not even like HotS where it's "lose one fight and barrel down a lane" from a losing position, it's losing one fight after taking most of their exterior towers (much harder to push in Dota), winning 5-6 fights, then suddenly a single pickoff was worth like 3k gold for the guy who killed you, for each if it was a teamwipe. And the comeback gold wasn't reduced by buyback (buy a second life, huge cd and disabled farmed gold for some time) until like 3 patches later.

The worst part is that shit is still in, just nerfed to the point where it's subtle-but-unbearable instead of obvious.
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>>152250849
>Win every team fight
>Use your advantage
>Be 3-4 levels ahead of the enemy team
>Somehow you manage to lose a teamfight

Then you deserve to fucking lose
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>>152287689
basically just because of "comeback gold", which was added in that patch and was way too fucking high

kill enemy team with massive gold advantage, suddenly almost even
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>>152403731
>>152404876
Compared to Dota, how balanced are the general game mechanics of HotS?
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>>152404876
I'm the first responder. Really, the biggest thing that annoys me with it is that the game didn't need that at all in my opinion.

6.81, the previous patch, had a pretty snowball-heavy metagame. Pick early fighters, slam-jam down a lane 5-10 minutes in when you have your ults, win game. They actually did a lot of other things to try and shut that down, like buffing tower durability along with nerfing two of the biggest problem heroes, Razor and Death Prophet, and they also made glyph (couple-seconds building invuln with like a 5 minute cooldown) refresh if your team lost an outermost tower. That all would've been great.

Then they just threw out the entire kill economy of the game and replaced it with some extreme rubberbanding that still gives way more than old kills ever did. Sadly they never reverted it and it kind of killed my love for the game.
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>>152398732
>was hoarding
>got to 40k
>decided to spend it
>buy lunara and zeratul
>regret it
>consider suicide two days later
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>>152405950
Why would you regret it?
Both are pretty gud
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>Misha still can't path around creeps
>Misha's AI still fucks up every now and again
>have to wait until the next hero release for them to MAYBE fix this bugged as shit hero

How is HotS consistently the most buggy, broken MOBA out there.
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>>152406403
lazy jews
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>>152395713
>Raynor
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>>152406403
I always assumed it had something to do with the retarded engine SC2/HotS runs on.
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>>152396672
i love all three of them. gul'dan and auriel are definately my current favorites.

>chromie
does tons of damage and is insane when you have someone like kerrigan, dehaka, ETC etc. who can line up targets for you.

>gul'dan
is kinda hard to play since you really have to think about when to use which skill.

>auriel
is a lot of fun due to her active playstyle kit and is great with heroes who put out high and constant damage like lunara and gul'dan. best memed with cho'gall.
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>>152406403
it's not just Misha, sometimes your heroes themselves get stuck in your own minions since last patch. they already said it was going to get fixed soon and that it was a bug.
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>>152406403
>Rexxar highest winrate in ranked
>cant play HL anymore until the stupid bodyblocking is fixed

;_;
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>>152406765

Rexxar is one of my favorite heroes and I love him, but for the love of god I wish they would just give him Lost Vikings-esque controls. His current control scheme is awful.
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>>152405275
I've played Dota for 4 years almost obsessively, so I'll give you my take.

Dota is/was really tactics-heavy. A lot of your success was based around planning. Planning where you could go to farm, planning where to place wards, planning what fights to take, planning your moment to strike as an initiator, planning what items you'd need, etc. Heroes have some disgustingly powerful impact on spell usage, but as a caveat, mana/cooldowns were pretty tight. Felt awesome though.

HotS is a little more neutered, but the plus side is that it's designed so as not to be an impossible logistics nightmare to balance. Talents are cool, allowing you to get non-numbers upgrades and give the devs power to balance on a per-hero basis. Awesomenauts did the same idea better IMO.

tl;dr HotS is more balanced, but back in its day Dota was pretty cool and unique, and more fun as a result. It's kind of turned into a weird pseudo-WoW, since Valve balanced it around dumbasses.
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>everyone playing corruption build on guldan
Is it even good? I don't think I would ever even finish the first quest talent with a cooldown that fucking long
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>>152405950
if losing your blizzard jew gold in exchange for decent characters makes you that sad, you should probably kys tbqh
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>>152406928
He's one of my favorite too. I forced myself to learn how to play him a few months back and now the controls are ingrained into my muscle memory. I have Misha, Focus binded to an extra button on my mouse, I know some people rebind it to F as well
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>>152407371
fel flame has shit range and drain life isn't made for damage primairly, what else would you build around
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>>152406040
Lunara is complete shit and unfun.
Zeratul is lacking compared to Nova.
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>>152408039
>Zeratul is lacking compared to Nova.
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>>152408039
Nobody is lacking when compared to Nova. Not even Gazlowe.
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>>152408039
>Nova

kill yourself.
You're never getting your gold back.
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>>152408039
He may lack damage, but you can lane, do mercs, have more mobility, more utility...
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>>152407371
>Is it even good?
it deals a ton of aoe damage with the 16 upgrade and finished quest.
>I don't think I would ever even finish the first quest talent with a cooldown that fucking long
it's actually the easiest to finish quest in my experience. i have it finished at about lvl 10-13, depending on how many enemies are in my lane.
when you get the cooldown reduction for corruption on Q hits at lvl 7 you have it up again pretty quickly in laning and teamfights. the biggest problem is to hit it one enemies. you really have to wait for a good situation, ie. enemy running away or standing still/stunned. with a little practice you get at least 2 hits per cast vs a single hero.

other build i take vs melee heavy teams sometimes is Q. lvl 1 Q quest doesn't sound like much but is really noticeable. gets pretty strong with lvl 16 talent stacks.

W build is funny against illidans but you are really vulnerable with the self root.
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>>152405950
>regretting buying the most fun! FUN! and most cute! CUTE! hero in the game
kys
>regretting buying the highest skillcap hero in the game
git gud

>>152408039
>Zeratul is lacking compared to Nova.
only thing zeratul is lacking compared to nova is nigger cock in all his holes.
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>>152408508
>>152407371
So
Is Gul'Dan usable/good right now?
Because after launch he was pretty bad
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>>152408875
You know, if Protoss have no dicks, what's the point of him wearing a loincloth?
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>bum-rush my TL placements with randoms and literal bronzies
>get placed in gold
>hotdogs says I'm bronze
PLS NO
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>>152407371
well the corruption quest is the only good talent at level 1
and then ruinous affliction is good with the completed quest
and maybe you take the "q reduces corruption cd" talent too

but that's it, everything else in the "corruption build" is non-corruption-related
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>>152407371

Because Corruption is his best ability.
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>>152408913
definately usable. i got a 58% winrate with him in qm and unranked where people are usually too dumb to dodge corruption and get baited near towers to get horrified. havent played him in ranked though.
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>>152408039
>Zeratul is lacking compared to Nova.
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ez win ;)
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>>152386660
>Set attack to quick cast
Wala! No more clicking to attack move
>Set all skills skills to quick cast
WALA! You are flipping and sliding all around at the speed of light!

Why do all you fucking shitters hold on to your baby ass click to cast bullshit like it's a fucking security blanket?
Set everything to quick cast and git gud. You are just wasting time with this click shit. On release if you need to aim or account for a hitbox.
YOU LITERALLY HAVE NO REASON TO CLICK TO CAST
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>>152413742
>That Illidan
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>>152372816
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>>152413830
>>152413830
>attack to quick cast
What? Also I attack move a lot, nice and all.
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>>152413742
Cheers Vastined
You complete faggot.
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>>152413742
do not bully eric he got tilted on dragon shire
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>>152414091
sorry forgot to blank out your name, no need to bully... ;^)
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>>152414305
>tfw you'll never be a part of the inner circle
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>>152414305

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seVdI6FGjk0
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>>152413830
>posting pandaface
kys furry
even though you're right about quickcast
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>>152414007
Quick cast attack is great for stutter stepping.
right click an open area you want to move to, hit A to slap something close by and right click again to continue to move towards your destination without even moving you mouse.
Repeat as necessary.
So comfy.
Click to cast subhumans will never know such joys.
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>>152414674
All this panda posting hate today....
Where my Chen bros at?
Both panda heroes are strong and well balanced. Excellent design and extremely fun to play.
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>>152414965
That's just quick cast attack move.
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Post cutes
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>>152413742
What a fucking shitshow
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>>152415301
Yes. Quick cast attack = quick cast attack move.
>just
What did he mean by this?
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>>152415481
That isn't quick cast attack, anon. You need to be specific. It's quick cast attack move.

Step it up, Lilifag.
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>>152413830
I legit didn't know you could set attack to quickcast. Skils were quickcast though.

Also, it is voila.

>>152391470
Sounds incredibly accurate.

>>152394853
Got it.
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>>152415320
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>tfw the only Alarakfag
So we have one Lilifag and no more, right?
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>>152416703
First time this image has been on here. Obligatory "Alarak a cute. CUTE!"

Can't fucking wait to play him.
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>>152417065
>>152416703
To be honest, I am hype as fuck because another melee assassin is always cool and his kit looks very different from mosts.

But I don't got any fanart, because you know, Starcraft 2 is too hardcore for my casual brain. I can only assume he is like a hilarious Palpatine.
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>>152415725
>Also, it is voila.
You're a bit behind on your memes my friend.
>>152415589
Everyone but you understands. Might want to get tested for dumbtard syndrome.
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>>152417518
Man, I better lurk moar.

I wonder when the last time someone said "LURK MOAR" unironically.
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I AM
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>>152417394
Embrace the Terrazine.

More Alarak.

>>152417518
That other anon is right. And they're the only person who replied to you and your "quick cast attack" So your point on "Everyone but you understands." is just a lie. No need to be upset on somebody checking what you mean, either.

People like you are why people get upset so easily over "avatarfags" and alike.
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>>152417747
What is funny, I previously said if we get another fucking protoss before a terran or zerg, I would be pissed.

But Alarak seems different enough.
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FUN AND CUTE
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>>152417978
I was hyped while watching his little trailer. Even if I didn't give a shit about Alarak, I'd still think Bli$$ard have done a legit' job on this hero. Good model, original VA, good skill set and spicy talent concepts.

Watching him on the Grubby preview made him look very weak, but we'll have to see. I just hope he isn't OP.

>>152418169
>Valla has yellow cheek blush and is using a sock puppet
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>>152418639
Nothing wrong with that.
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>>152416703
Reporting in.

Who /sheev/ here?
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WHY IS HE SO BORING?
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So you faggots just meme'd me last time. Who is better

Uther, BRIGHTWING, or Rehgar? I need a new healer besides Kha and Morales.
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RAVEN LORD IS THE BEST!
FUCK OFF GRAVEKEPPER!
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When?
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>>152420084
>when the redsand is nearly kicking in and you start to talk to a goat
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>>152420328
Get Rehgar. Though BW is fun.

Uther is in a weird spot right now. Piano Uther just isn't worth the effort.
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>>152420084
he seems like a dapper fellow, yet for some reason i dont trust him.
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>>152420403
Do you think Medivh sabotages the Gravekeeper when he is on that side?

>>152420414
I know people hate meme characters, but I honestly don't mind the idea of a Leeroy character. But it is really hard to capture "incompetency" in a kit of a character you want people to actually play.
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>>152420629
Actually his kit would be a standard retribution paladin.
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>>152420629
They could just give the Butcher a Leeroy skin
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what do i do to make my retard teammates click on the morales instead of the fat tank at the other end of her healbeam
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>>152409417
mmr changes so much at the beginning it doesnt really mean anything anyway
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>>152421614
But if we burst down the tank we can get to her so easy after. That's two kills!
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>>152362454
If you pick the quest for even further reduced Q cooldown you'll pump out like 400DPS + rightclick and if you force of will dodge their main damage you're in for a treat, also you can run them down with the Q and portal to get ahead of them if they use an escape.
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>>152421614
you learn to draft better
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>>152421614
Are you questioning why people focus Morales over a tank? What.
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>>152235508
>Li Li and Stiches
This is funnier than I thought
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>>152238207
>99
>not 69
He had one job.
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>>152265690
>supposed to be an antimagic tank
>gets absolutely chunked to fuck the second his spell shield is down
Why even live.

Hes not a real tank, hes more of a disruption machine if the enemy doesnt just take a huge shit on you since you go down quicker than thrall
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>>152271057
tfw hurricane/tornado druids are fucking awesome death machines
tfw a hacker kills him and he was hardcore
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>>152421851
but QM

>>152422784
they're doing the exact opposite of that

learn to reading comprehension, friend
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>>152423851
>le comprehension meme
>can't even use basic punctuation
Oh, so it's bait. Also, try getting out of Bronze, you shitter.
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>>152423954
you dont need puctuation to have reading comprehension
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>>152424162
Try getting out of bronze before you even think about talking.
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What happen to this thing?
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>>152424207
no
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Post heroes without posting them.
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>>152418639
Those black slits are Valla's eyebrows.
You will never see this picture the same way again
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>>152425165
Yeah I'm aware of the artist's very strange art "style"

And I'm aware that it isn't a sock puppet but her hand. Just a poor/weird way to draw anything they've done. Poking fun, basically.
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>>152425165
Where are her eyes then?
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>>152424816
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>>152407282
Best thing they did was reward warding and supports. Supports are actually fun to play in doto
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i can feel it now
two weeks into the machines of war update, they announce le KABOOM BABY man and mengsk
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>>152426143
Rexxar?
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>>152425757
The yellow things are her eyes.
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>>152426879
Woosh after another woosh. Come on, anon.
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>>152426490
Weird, the article I read today said that since supports don't earn XP the same way, they are relegated to taking wards and can't play "the real game" and it just isn't fun.
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Does BW just have lots of mana troubs or am I just playing her wrong? I admittedly do use my abilities basically off cooldown, but it seems like you are supposed to. The Q is so slow.

My Z is basically an extra mana refill. I hearth and pop back. Super fun though, polymorphing something like a 10000 cups is nice.
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>>152427896
I use Q off cool down but hold W for any dives or channeled ability. E is almost on cool down, any time someone is trying to gap close or get out. E use gets more focused once you get some talents on it like reduced ability dmg and bounce.
I never have mana problems because as you said, hearth and pop back in. Even just a well during a rotation is enough often.
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>>152429295
Alright. Thanks. I feel I am wasting W a bit much and it probably has a pretty big mana cost. E is great. I love E and E talents.

And yeah, Hearth back and Pop back is cool, I just wish I could use my Z in more exciting ways.
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>>152429902
>That feel when you take peekaboo and Z to your friend getting snuck up on by a zera, expose his ass then W him
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When do I get my free fukn hero?
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>>152432324
when the update is released, so like mid-september
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>>152432324
sep 13/14
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>>152432639

that is TOO LONG i want my free shit NOW
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>>152424513
He probably needs a new model at this point. So not coming any time soon.
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I've been wondering... what's the deal with butcher's ults? His furnace blast is unreliable and lamb to the slaugher can only deal efficiently with one guy until level 20.
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What sort of victories do you guys get most often:

1. You won because everyone pulled their weight.

2. You won because you're so good that you carried the whole team.

3. You won because although you suck you were still enough to be saddled with the right teammates.
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>>152435815

>3. lucky enough
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>>152435815
If there is one player on my team who I can tell is a lot better then everyone else. Like a couple times I got paired up with some gm in unranked. I just make sure they do as well as possible. And try to feed then kills. Go I when they go in.

Doesn't happen to often but I try to exploit it when it does.

Also when the enemy team has someone who is kinda bad I try to focus them as much as possible

I've improved my mmr by 200 points just by doing that
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>>152435815
Out of those? 1 for sure. 2 every now and then, not just for me but for another person on the team as well.

I never feel 3, not because I think I'm amazing or anything, but I'm just okay. I only feel like I suck when it's one of those bad days.

Overall 1 is the most constant. But again, this is out of those three. I really feel like the most frequent occurence is "You won because their team just made the most mistakes."
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>>152435490
he only has 1 more shitty ult than most heroes

seriously what the fuck is up with talent balance
why do most heroes have only 1 or 2 viable builds
is blizzard just bad at balancing things?
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FUCKING FALSTAD EVERY FUCKING TIME HURR INSTAFLY ZAP ZAP PWN U AHHAA EPIC HAHA
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seriously how many heroes actually have near 50/50 pickrate on their ults

most are like 90/10
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>>152435815
Team coordination is paramount in this game.
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>Illidan works at the Nexus Civil Registry, where all new heroes go to get themselves registered
>all he does is toss them a sheet of paper and say, "Work on your form."
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The only way to play Chen is by being aggressive?
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>>152438218
basically just spam all of your abilities on cooldown and hope that the enemy is stupid enough to waste all their spells on your shields instead of hitting your team
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>>152286295
If you can get to masters and GM in a couple of months? Congrats you are better than 99% of both. There's are shitters here that have over 2000 igames and still silver.
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>>152438218

Yeah, you should be in a team with Kerrigan or Thrall or something and jumping behind squishes so they have no escape, not the guy whose job it is to peel for Chromie.
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>>152435815
>You won
lmaokai
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So the first three heroes on this "pick your free hero" campaign have been revealed. Are the second batch of three heroes known too?
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>>152440861
Which?
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>>152441031
tyrande/anub/thrall

tyr and thrall will prob be lowered to 4k too
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>>152441260
Source?
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>>152441556


>>152386062
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>>152438898
>Traveling this entire season
>Get a hotel with half decent wifi
>200 ping
>Tiny mousepad
>Grind out grandmaster over the course of two nights
How are people so bad? At least league you can use the excuse that you've not practiced last hitting until your brain has turned to mush, but heroes is literally don't be a retard and you win.
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>>152438898
>There's are shitters here that have over 2000 igames and still silver.
Dude, I went rank 2 in pre and now DIA4 because we had no frontline in 3 games and "picking nova is totally vaible in such a situation" - the game is easier than DotA2, LoL and Smite combined.
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DON'T LET THIS DIE
POST WAIFUS
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>>152445119
>failing to lasthit in league

but it doesn't even have denies in it
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>tfw Alarak will have an MLP reference somewhere in his quotes
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>>152445993
>you can't deny in Lego Legends
crusty old meme tßh
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>>152446160
it's true though

what do solo laners even do? spam 500 shitty 0-damage skillshots at each other?
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>>152446160
It's true. I've made the mistake of trying LeL again and you can't deny. Game is as bland as ever. Except for Jhin, he's based. But game is still mediocre.
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>>152446251
>>152446410
>force enemy out of lane
>they lose xp and gold
Whoa...
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>>152446648
My little anon can't be this retarded.
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>>152446094
I really want to like this shitthower.
But I can only really be impactful with shitstorm on 10, otherwise Im just there landing minor damage Qs
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>>152446753
rly made me think
...
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>>152446648
>>they lose xp and gold
You could almost say, they're DENIED xp and gold
holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...
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>>152447176
omg there's the denying mechanic in hots too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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>>152447280
>DENY enemy team XP
>you gain talents earlier and can make the big playsâ„¢
Ok guys, let's formulate strategies *puts on our theorycrafting hat*
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>>152372816
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>>152372816
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>>152446026
>It will be posted on /v/ and trigger barneyfag
I'm OK with this
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>>152445971
m-mother...
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>>152435815
>4. You won because the other team fell over sideways on their ass more often than yours

or my favorite

>5. You won because you told people to stop tilting and WIN ALREADY YOU COWARDS and they actually did.
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>>152445702
>>152445837
Someone please post that picture of the guy slamming the NUT button please, I don't have it.
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>tfw people on your party are saying first turn in on BHB means very little
JUST

Probably the same people that ignore first turn in and never contest. Probably don't even farm coins.
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>>152293929
>>152296650
>Thralls everywhere
Oh the horror
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>play ARAM
>shitter in chat constantly whines about muh strategy, muh wrong engages, muh bronzies

is there ANY game mode that isn't infested with tryhards
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>>152450836
>ARAM
Since when has this been in the game and how do I play it
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>>152450894
>/join ARAM
>see lobby link
>click lobby link
>if you dont see lobby link, create custom game lobby on Lost Cavern and share lobby link in ARAM chat

congrats, youre playing ARAM
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>>152449445
>Partying with random shitters

They're right, though. First is the one that matters the least, and as long as you're doing something else while they tuning, you probably won't even be 1/4 a level behind.
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>>152450836
>play aram
>my team has a bronze and a silver
>they don't know how to engage
>feed the entire time
>call them out on their stupid 2v5 engages
>"hurrrr"
how do I escape shitters >_<
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>>152450836
>>152450894
>>152451053
What is ARAM?
Australia?
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>>152452130
>doesn't know Analog Random Access Memory
hi bronze
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>>152452016
>how do I escape shitters >_<
Stop playing any form of multiplayer games.
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>>152452130
Anal Rape And Memes
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how the fuck am I supposed to be positive about anything in this game when 50% of games are lost regardless of my input and the other 50% I have to force my team to win against their will. what's the point.
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>>152426490
>>152427810

You're both kind of right. First of you'd right in that support is better in Dota than like 90% of mobas in a vacuum. They go around slaying shit right away from level one, where a defensive healing support is more of a niche. Only Omniknight, Dazzle, Oracle, and Treant come to mind immediately, and even then they have ways of doing stupid damage early game.

Second guy's absolutely right, sadly, both pre- and post-comeback. It doesn't even matter when they buff passive gold and shit, if anything it's made that problem worse since carries benefit from it too, so they just become irrelevant faster. Also, Black King Bar is a thing that exists. I don't think anybody likes that thing, if you're a carry it's that fucking item you have to build to exist when the enemy team goes full stunlock, and on the flip side you're completely useless as a support once enemies get those up.
>>
>play 3 support games
why can't I reroll or at least forfeit this shite
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>>152333038
Never played Diablo, why don't they have faces?
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>>152455827
just go tyrande and forget your heal does not exist
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>>152456519
I might just do that.
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>Uther with all these nice skins
>meanwhile at other heros ...
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>>152455827
>he doesn't know how fun auriel is
find a cho'gall duo and reap havoc
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>>152456519
>>152457445
Went 8/29/0, good advice my man

>>152457748
Lad, I need me 10k for the Tychus master skin
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>go on vacations for two weeks
>come back
>time to play some based Gul'dan
>he's on rotation so he'll be in every match
Reee
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>>152458181
The skin is trash imo, I mean for fucks sake, just a bit of color on the pauldrons.

>>152457748
How fun is auriel in terms of doing more than just healing, compared to lili and tass prenerf?
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This game is wrong on so many levels sometimes I just dont get it.
And than you have games that go 30 mins and the enemy kael dealt 160k damage and you are anub and still the highest damage dealer on your team ...
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>>152458858
It's all thanks to the shit MMR system
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>>152458714
keep your shirt on sparky, I'm not prepared to shell out 15€ for the only good skin he has
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>>152458394
>he doesn't play games on vacations
Is this reddit?
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>>152460292
You know he may have gone to a place with no Internet or wathever
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>etc walks into mid lane
>literally goes afk in middle of lane
>abathur also runs into the lane for some reason and dies instantly
First game I have given up before the 1 minute mark
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>>152460757
get gud desu
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>>152459810
>to shell out 15€ for the only good skin he has
And thats obviously Infested right?
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>>152460701
Even Pitcairn islands has internet nowadays.
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>>152460924
It's the only legendary skin he has mate, of course
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>>152460292
I don't take my pc with me senpai.
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>>152460924
>>152461141
>Infested Tychus
Senpai baka desu
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>>152458714
>How fun is auriel in terms of doing more than just healing, compared to lili and tass prenerf?
i haven't played lili or tassadar prenerf so i can't compare. but auriel's playstyle is even more active as rehgar's and really enjoyable.
>Q aoe-"skillshot" can be skilled into damage, blind, cc
can deal pretty good damage and i love blinding people diving my team's backline
>W aoe heal
not much to say about this
>E is skillshot dislocate/stun
this is the most impactful and fun one. you can save your backline from divers. fight off people chasing you, interrupt ults, setup kills in ganks
heroic wise i 99% take crystal aegis. you can save squishies from hunt, triple tap etc. or save your tank. the damage it does gives you good energy for a follow up heal
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>>152458394
>QM
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why are these people not contained to vs. ai games?
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>>152461754
>playing anything but QM
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>>152461917
this
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>>152461917
QM is the worst possible way to play this game.
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>>152461869
Nothing wrong with ty-
>1688 hammer games

Jesus fucking christ

>>152461668
Its not bad its just... I dont know.

>>152462080
Except you get the same outcome with draft but it takes longer and people take your champion to sniff at their own butthole for 20 minutes.
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>>152462140
>Except you get the same outcome with draft but it takes longer and people take your champion to sniff at their own butthole for 20 minutes.

At least drafting gives you the opportunity to pick according to enemy team comp and map. Playing vs Chen/Illidong with no cc is fun af.
>>
So, why is it that when you are level 8 going on 9 and they are at 10, people still try to engage during an objective like Punisher?

Punisher is literally a binary objective. You can't "half show up".

Fuck that Artanis and fuck that Butcher. "Oh, I'll get a kill and that'll put us at 10!" I am sure that's what they are thinking.
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>>152462140
>QM
>every team has at least one Nova/Zeratul/Abathur/new meme character that came on rotation

>Ranked
>teammates that will give you an ulcer

Unranked draft is the GOAT mode
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>>152462608
>I am sure that's what they are thinking.
They dont think.
Same stuff I had today with Uther, he picked storm against a ranged teamcomp he could never reach, his response to me asking why he didnt take bubble when we had thrall and kerri was: "because we dont need it", despite us losing all fights because both couldnt get through the frontline before being melted.
No logic, no explanation, no nothing.

>>152462749
No clue whats wrong with your QMs but I havent seen Zera in ages and aba isnt that bad.
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>>152461869
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>>152461869
Hammer is fun as fuck, but 1700 fucking games? Jesus christ.
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>>152461869
Impressive
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>It's a "Li-Ming goes 0-14" episode
>>
I am a compulsive spender so I ended up throwing away money on OW's summer event thing, even though I can't play that game for more than two games every few weeks.

So, I want to support HOTS more, because it is a game I actually enjoy a fucking lot. So, what should I buy?
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>>152466786
>So, what should I buy?
Everything
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>decide to play tyrande
>I'm the damage dealer
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>>152467071
The main reason I find myself spending less money on HOTS is because I am inundated with gold. I bought the Dragon, Monarch BW and Desert Queen Zagara though. So, that's cool.

What character looks good on the Spectre mount?
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>>152467379
spectre Ili
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>>152466786
>>152467379
Space lord Leoric is rad, and if you like BUTTS then get the striker li ming
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>>152464494
kinda looks like forsen
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>playing best orc
>igniting people
>hitting them with corruption
>draining their lives
They will be remembered as the heroes who sacrificed their lives for..nothing.
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>>152469673
>teleports behind you
>stabs you in the back
>does a spinning attack
>teleports away
psh.. nothing personnel kid
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>>152470185
Who are the top edgiest heroes in HotS?
Illidan, Zeratul, Gul'dan, Arthas, Diablo and Valla?
>>
>>152470527
>diablo
>edgy

how can the lord of terror be edgy?
>>
>>152470712
The incarnation featured in HOTS is particularly not edgy, being a complete joke. Funny though.

>>152470527
Greymane deserves a slot.
>>
>>152470873
are you one of those homosexuals that want the d3 version of transgender diablo
>>
>>152470527
Sylvanas?
>>
>>152471345
No, I love Diablo in HOTS, but you must admit, he's just a big lovable dummy.
>>
>>152470527
Alarak. No other answer.
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>>152471690
FEAR IS ETERNAL
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>>152471770
>le black and red is le edgy maymay xD
Clearly haven't played or read anything related to him.
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>>152471415
True that
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>>152471415
I THOUGHT I WAS DONE SUFFERING FOOLS
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>>152420629
>>152420414
Passive: Least I got chicken. Regenerates health after standing still for 4 seconds.

Q: Consecrate. Typical aoe ability, works like the WoW version
W: Judgement. Deals damage to the target. At a certain level, you get a choice between the talents: judgement of light or judgement of wisdom. You can't get both, and they put a debuff on the target for the same amount of time your judgement CD is. One heals, one restores mana.
E: LEEEEROOOOY. Charge towards a enemy.

Talent idea: Gosh Darn It Leeroy. Stun the enemy, but can only be used on enemy heroes.

First heroic: Bubblehearth. Makes you immune and starts your hearthstone, can't be canceled.

Level 20 of this ability lets you cast it on yourself and a ally, giving them blessing of protection and making them hearth.

Second heroic: "MANY WHELPS". Summons 15 whelps. Whelps are hostile to both you and your enemy.

Level 20 version: "HANDLE IT!" double the whelps.
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>>152473318
>Whelps are hostile to both you and your enemy.
Yes.
>>
>>152435815
>>152448431
dont forget when 1 person on the other team clearly rage quits and stops team fighting
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>3 snipes, 3 basic attacks, 2 pinning shots
>in 1.2 seconds
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>>152453845
If your win rate is exactly 50% your in the correct rank.
>>
>>152475168
Sshh..nothing personal kid.
>>
>>152475168
death recap is known for being buggy
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>>152475168
That's hot.
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>>152470527
>top edgiest
I would say tychus up there, but its mainly because its his thing, getting betrayed by your friend, locked up by mengsk and then shot by your ex best friend makes you weird.
>>
>>152475325
It's not a bug. Notice that second Snipe and second auto-attack dealt significantly less dmg. That's lethal decoy. And last snipe and pinning shot is obviously after rewind.
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>>152476385
Mengsk in HotS fucking when?! We'll finally have the Starcraft event and no Mengsk in sight; literally a single SC hero, because we needed another muscled womyn with lesbian haircut.
>>
>>152476630
What would Mengsk even be about?

I also hoped to see infested stukov in the last SC2 expac but I havent even bought that thing yet ...
>>
>>152452016
there's no way to play without shitters

but if you party with people you know IRL at least you can call them shitters to their face
>>
>>152460924
infested tychus looks ugly as shit in-game
>>
>>152476630
>generic terran dude who is an emperor i guess? being better than best waifu of overwatch
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>>152476630
>another

Johanna isn't swole at all and Sonya barely HAS a haircut. you're just jealous of her gainz.
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>>152475271
>when you constantly struggle to win even the games that are supposedly handed to you, you're at the correct rank

Gee, thanks for that bit of defeatist wisdom.
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Stop making me open this fucking thread with your lewd OP images. I never even remember opening it. Fuck you I don't even play this.
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>>152479775
you do now
directed by m night shamalam
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>>152479775
>that shitty artstyle OP
>lewd
uhmm maybe get your eyes checked? sadly it's one of the few artists still producing art for our game.
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>>152301940
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>>152481804
Too lewd
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>>152479775
>>
>>152301940
>strong
>woman
pick one.
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>>152476721
buy it, the campaign is bretty gud. And yes, stukov makes an appearance
>>
>>152482918
>buy it, the campaign is bretty gud
Yeah, but Im waiting for a price drop, couldnt care less about the MP but the SP missions are really nice despite the fucking retarded raynor/kerrigan disaster.

Oh and I also meant infested tychus instead of stukov.
>>
>>152475168
>3k damage in 1.2 seconds
>from stealth
>blizzard dev team design skills
>>
>post ywf they add a Warden hero
>it's Cordana Felsong and not Maiev
>>
>>152483171
No infested Tychus sadly. I think he's just OC for HOTS
>>
>>152483932
>play a squishy with no defensive/escape skills against enemy Nova
>wander off away from team
>somehow be surprised when you die
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>>152486169
Yeah, there are and will be more "alternate universe" esque skins, that are basically "What If?" skins. What if Tychus were infested, what if Thrall hadn't been rescued and enslaved by a human, and instead raised by another Orc clan, what if Garrosh had defeated the Horde and Alliance, and forced Rehgar to join his new Iron Horde, etc.

I fucking love the alternate universe skins.
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>>152487916
Oh whoops I misremembered. The Thrall skin is "What if Orgrim had sided with Gul'dan and betrayed Durotan? What would Thrall grow up to be instead?"
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>>152476385
aaaand there ainnnt nobody to save you THIS time
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Who is the Crazytown of HOTS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCDzMRidU4
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>>152487916
I like the ones based on Nexus settings like Pharaoh Tassadar and Cursed Hollow Kerrigan.

I really want a Kaiju map based on Kaiju Diablo, Mecha Tassadar, Cyber Anub. A metropolis with heroes scaled appropriately (they are already confirmed to be scaled up).
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>>152479094
She looks a lot more normal without the armor. Sonya on the other hand has a serious case of chicken legs. And chicken face.
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>>152495173
>Cursed Hollow Kerrigan
What?
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>>152483932
>implying nova is good
>literally stand in the middle of minions and she can't hit you
>you can even see her if your paying attention
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>>152495173
>Left side team core and structure setting is a futuristic city setting, center and majority of the map is a large beach/shoreline sort of thing, with the right side team core and structure setting being monstrous coral-esque looking structures arisen from the sea
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>>152495356
>being this butthurt someone else isn't a spoopy skellingtom
>>
>3 (three) disconnects on my team

We still held off for a reasonable amount of time. Also I didn't even notice the Nova was AI, which shows something.
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>>152488740
>"What if Orgrim had sided with Gul'dan and betrayed Durotan? What would Thrall grow up to be instead?"
Don't forget that in that universe Gul'dan drank the blood of Azmodan.
The alternate universe skins are pretty cool indeed.
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>>152496451
Countess Kerrigan, Count Arthas and Harlequin Nazeebo are from Raven Court, ie. Cursed Hollow and Haunted Mines.
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>>152496993
That would be so fucking cool. Honestly, I'm up for whatever. I hate how everyone is begging for more maps from these existing universes when the sky is the limit for maps.
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>>152497919
I guess I never read the descriptions on those before, I just assumed they were random skins.

Still don't like them though.
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>>152498873
How come?
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>>152502940
>>152502940
>>152502940
new bread
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