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Visual Novel General #1171

READ THE FOLLOWING, THIS IS IMPORTANT

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:

1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Read the wiki below
4. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
http://visual-novels-general.wikia.com/wiki/

>Need a novel with a specific element?
http://vndb.org/g

>Visual Novel Translation Status
https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_tripcode=%21%21UcDDlzwANFs&search_op=op

>Download Links:
http://pastebin.com/U7HUj0fk/

Previous threads:
>>152106209

http://pastebin.com/zeiYgLrs/

This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.

Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
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First
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Why are there two /vn/ generals?
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Friendly reminder to post in the correct thread
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>>152204098
Can you not fuck with the OP? Retard.
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I LIKE LOLIS.
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Dovac will release the games we want
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>>152204313
As long as Gahkthun sticks to /blog/.
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Anyone else here all day ?
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>>152204417
>been over a year since it was announced
>30% translated
Maybe in about 5 years he'll release what you want
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>>152204417
(After 4 years post-announcement)
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>>152204498
Yeah, but I work from home so it's normal for me to keep the tabs open.
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>>152204447
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>>152204621
Michel is so moe
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>>152203343
Does HuniePop still have threads up? As for Slavemakers, most of them are western so they got booted to /aco/ once it started.

Slablands/CoC/TiTs/FC are all arguably 'western' games as well, so they'd go to /aco/.
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>>152204498
Fuck no. That's what the thread watcher is for.
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>>152204808
Nah Hunie is fucking dead and has been for awhile.
I was gonna say Danganronpa but thats not an eroge even if most of the time I have a huge boner looking at Mikan's thighs
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>>152204313
Add /fgog/ so we can has 12 generals
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Unfortunately, guys; there is only one way to stop normalfags from spoiling our fun and that is to learn jpn and go underground. MangaGamer will regrettably dir from that but shikatanai
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>>152204983
Thought so. It was pretty short and they didn't seem like the types to think they were relevant for thousands of threads like others (/ksg/). Especially since Cam Studio bombed.

>>152205004
Don't forget /dsg/, Dark Souls is very much the archetypal visual novel.
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>>152205067
yeah, im sure if our 100 user strong general learns japanese we will topple sekai and mangagamer in one fell swoop
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>>152205067
>shikatanai

Read this as Shomonkai, was confused as to why someone brought up Devil Survivor again.
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So, I haven't been in these threads for a while, have SP said anything about a 18+ patch for Maitetsu?
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>>152204983
It's a huge fucking shame that the DR artist doesn't do porn.
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>>152205261
Normalfags don't browse 4chan anyway. I am talking grand scale here. No more western releases because we will all enjoy it in japan(ese) and no one will bother us
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>>152205391
Only way you ever see 18+ Maitetsu is if Sekai dies before its out or you learn Japanese.
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>>152205391
No. They delayed it again.

So that's 3 times that they've delayed it now. It's pretty much confirmed they won't do it, bur I think most of us had this figured out anyway.

>>152205490
I am sure you will manage to convice everyone to undertake this endeavor.
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>when a VN gets atmospheric music just right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZWD4P5uQLg
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>>152205621
Thanks. It will be difficult but it is feasible.
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>>152205526
>>152205621
Fucking hell I just want a good lolige to get localized already.
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>>152205824
Please stop advertising your channel Quof.
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>>152205921
fucking hell I just want you to get arrested.
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>>152205921
MG has that one that's fairly shallow and short but has some pretty top CG.

All the JOPs seem to have a pretty lukewarm opinion of Maitetsu though and seem to refer Memebeneo
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>>152205956
This song isn't uploaded on youtube anywhere so I did it myself out to share. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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>>152205921
Same, brother. But I just got tired of waiting and I'm almost done with Tae Kim now. Lolige won't come to the West so we have to go to the lolige.
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Nellie a cute!
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>>152206220
She's actually hideous.
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>>152205824
What's this from?
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>>152205391
They got asked at the last con and evaded the question to the surprise of no one.
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>>152206329
Bakemonogatari
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>>152206329
Aiyoku no Eustia, partially tld
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>>152205194
/drg/ would be the most likely
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>>152206439
Thanks, sounds great.
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>>152205824
sounds like Schnittke or Krenek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icNHpzt2JzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFb8ahrrwyQ

Have some atmospheric Aimee:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygb5_ypV3HI

captures the claustrophobic, oppressive, and mischievous context of the scene it's from perfectly.
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>>152207362
delet this
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>>152205824
shes missing a pupil
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Is /vn/ excited for Funbag Fantasy?
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This guy just has to be the hero for every single character, doesn't he
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>>152207860
He is the Masaya
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>>152207842
You mean Final Fantity
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>>152207951
You mean MegaMilk Fantasy
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>>152207842
Yes, but $45 is a racket
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>>152207914
Nice.
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>>152208009
You mean Breast Fantitsy
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>>152208348
>45 dollar
Isn't this a nukige? That is pretty pricy.
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>>152208663
Hello Steam drone.
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>>152208663
Yes, but it has a lot of CG and its quite popular. Waffle probably made them price it high.
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>>152208663
It seems to be long and the story is interesting too, while I hate the cow tits I m still going to give it a try.
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>>152208663
10 more than a combined Rance package including an undisputed kamige
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Ayakashibito, Suzu Route.
Apparently the command Suzu gave to Miu and Soushichi was too powerful. "Stay out of my sight and never come back", emphasis on "never". And the only way to cancel it is to cut her tail, turning her into a human
Going Frodo Mode.
Can't they just knock Miu unconsious, take her near Suzu and utter the words to cancel the previous command just as she wakes up? Since she is out cold, neither her mind or body would know that she's near Suzu, and if a new command to cancel the other is said immediately upon regaining conciousness, she shouldn't get any mental or physical damage from being near Suzu
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>>152208816
Those Rance games are over a decade old.
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>>152207860
Well yeah
Girls are dumb and yucky
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>>152207842
>all cow tits
Disgusting. There is no way I'll buy that if there is no flat in it.
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>no route

Reee
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>>152209003
And VI is a grea
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>>152209497
Nigga....the title the word "FUNBAG" in it.

What did you expect?
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The latest part of Fata Morgana changed the mood to something more lightweight, while the starting stories have a tragic and gothic feel.
Or maybe it was jut me getting tired of the overdone repetition of scenes for different perspective or further clarification. And I'm a fan of R07 stuff but at the end the sense of magic and mystery was totally lost and it became and LBGTQ leaflet.
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>>152209685
literally the only shit girl in that title.
Headmistress doesn't count. Shes in a cunt category of her own.
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>>152210232
>literally the only shit girl in that title.
You're thinking about Konomi, friend.
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>>152210416
Nah. I used to hate her, but Marika is worse. Konomi was kinda annoying but had her moments.
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So did anyone actually read this? Was it any good? It's been on my backlog for a while and I was thinking of starting it.
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post Best Girl
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>>152210579
It's by R07. It's probably shit.
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>>152210586
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>>152210705
That is not Hisakaki Komomo. Try again.
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>>152209003
VI is the best title Mangagamer has ever gotten.

Behind Baldr Sky as the best title to get licensed
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>>152210579
It's pretty standard if unspectacular. I expected R07 retardation but he generally played things by the books for gangster/yakuza genre. Its good if unspectacular but it's long and some parts really drag on.
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Anyone know if Muv-Luv has sold well in Steam, to the point I could expect more releases in the future?

>tfw 39h in already
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>>152210705
Agreed.
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>>152204313
What about the short lived Grisaia general? Have people forgotten about it already?
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>>152211703
Stillborn
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>>152210705
Who is this ejaculate immaculate?
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>>152211819
/wmg/ is on there though.
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>>152211390
Well Alternative is guaranteed as well as Photon Memories/Flowers
SM is guaranteed as well
Everything else depends on the sales
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>>152211848
suzukage hotori
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>>152212004
>Well Alternative is guaranteed as well as Photon Memories/Flowers
>SM is guaranteed as well
Well, I guess this is good enough for me
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>>152211880
It currently still exists
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>>152204498
Nah dude. I am usually at work, playing VNs, or at the gym. Only here when I am eating or if I am looking for vn recs.
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>>152212628
So you're looking for recommendations? I hear Tokyo Babel is the underrated kamige of the year.
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What translated VN has a romanceable heroine which is taller than the male MC? No shota MCs please.
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>>152212913
Need some immersive practice?
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>>152210579
Read it if you want suffering.I loved it. But I can say R07 didn't show his skills in this one.
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>>152213057
>R07
>skills
What skills?
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>>152212913
Camilla in Rance VI
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>>152210579
The second to last arc is goddamn fantastic.

The build up is boring and bland. The ending is disappointing, but nothing near an Umineko abomination.

If you like yakuza stuff or 1950s era fiction, go for it.
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>>152212882
Depends, will it give me utsuge feels overload? Feels so hard that they actually fuck with my lifts in the gym?
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>>152213520
No it's chuunige
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Is Rewrite a chuunige?
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>>152213782
It's chuuni if they should out the names of their attacks.

In Rewrite they don't, so it's not chuuni.
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>>152213226
>there are goats, who denying that Higurashi is masterpiece and Umineko was hell of a ride.
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>>152214225
I never see people shitting on higurashi here desu.
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>>152214225
Kill yourself, you shit eating troglodyte. Never respond to me or anyone else on this website or any other ever again.
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>>152206468
If you wanna be technical many of the Shin Megami games would fall under the Visual Novel umbrella, at least if we're counting Danganronpa.
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>>152214312
I'm not a fan, but I don't see the need to shit on it.
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Is SP the 4Kids of VNs?
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>>152214318
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>>152214759
More like the Warriors of the Wind of the west.
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Is the goat response the bait image of umineko fans?
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>want to fap to vn
>none of the ones I have sound interesting

fug
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>>152216040
>fapping to visual novels
Wow, what a loser.
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Morgana is cute! Cute!
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>>152210586
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>>152216242
Morgana is best girl
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Why is there a moege general now? What did you fucks do?
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>>152216506
Someone made it as a joke but some morons took it seriously and here we are.
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>>152216506
Why is there a /blog/?
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>>152217158
People need a place to talk about Gahkthun.
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>>152217436
>>152204689
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>>152217158
its for blogging
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>>152217778
thanks for the (You) senpai
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>>152216358
>Implying it isn't Maria
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FLOWERS torrent?
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>>152220248
When you buy it and make one. Get to it.
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>>152219075
Door 8 Maria spares her from being utter garbage but she's still worst girl.
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>playing Free Friends
>MC mentions having ED

that's not how it works though
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>>152220808
At least she has great songs ;_;
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>>152221202
Dira Minchia is 10/10
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>>152220808
Maria is at her best during the short story. Except for the plot shield headshotting after she missed.
She coming back as a well behaved whore kind of ruined her character.
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>>152204313
All rightful /vn/ clay
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>>152221584
Spoilers m8.

I don't think it ruined her character, it just shows two sides of the same coin. It makes her more human overall. And Maria is plotting to kill Jacopo still, I would hardly call that well behaved. She just isn't in a situation where she's constantly having to suppress herself so she's more genuine in conversion, and she also has nothing against anyone you see her interacting with in door 8. The Maria in each door are just different possible outcomes of the same person.
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>>152220808
>>152221584
>>152222073

You're all forgetting the true best girl.
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I'm bored, let's pose a random hypothetical.

Anons, you get to choose the seven 'Heroes' for the next Grail War. The downside to this is that they all must have been born after the year 1900. Who would you pick for what role?
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>>152222073
Found the "have to kill the lord because he's a tirant" very light compared to the tragedy from her earlier episode when she's antagonist. But I guess they kind of needed somehow to gather the whole cast for the final.

Best girl is not a girl.
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>>152223279
after the year 1900, that's very young. Younger than me, even.
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>>152223415
... You're over 116 years old?
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>>152223450
oh i read that as 1990 lol
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>>152223375
She wanted to kill him specifically because they used to be best friends, but now he's sold out, gone to the top at the expense of her and others like her, and seems to no longer care about the group he was once part of. Not different than door 3 really. Honestly I'm sure her feelings on the matter weren't that different, but Maria's feelings weren't important in the 8th door since she wasn't important to Morgana's past, so we don't really see it.
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>>152223526
Yeah man, 1900 is much more reasonable. I can easily fill most slots aside from Berserker or Lancer. Those two have me stumped.
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>>152223564
Oops forgot to spoiler. Above post is a spoiler guys.
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>>152223279
I would pick Pinochet as a Rider
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>>152223279
Rider: Neil Armstrong
Archer: Simo Hayha
Saber: Sachin Tendulkar
Berserker: Gandhi*
Caster: Adolf Hitler*
Assasin: Gavrilo Princep*
Lancer:

*Born before 1900
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>>152223979
He can invoke the Caravan of Death
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>>152224031
I mean, if you're doing 1800s, then you can just cheat and have Li Shuwen be Lancer.
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>>152223279
Roberto Che Guevera as a rider in his motorcycle, he uses gorilla warfare
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>>152224715
Alright, /vn/, I need help.

I can't find a single good VN where crossdressing MC is an actual thing. The closest I got was Kira Kira but that's hardly anything when you think about it.

Anyone know any?
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>>152224862
Otoboku
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>>152224862
>>152224862
Didn't mean to reply. I fucked up.
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>>152224862
Otoboku I guess? But I wouldn't call it good.
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>>152224938
>>152224954
I might check it out, just looked it up on vndb. Kinda seems bleh but if it's the best there is then I'll try.
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>>152224862
I forgot, but it's mostly by the same monkey ears artist (I wonder how they're doing now, there haven't been any monkey ear art VNs lately) Heart de Roommate? Edelweiss?
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>>152224862
X Change series.
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>>152224862
it is literally a genre

hell, trap goes to an all girls school is practically a genre in and of itself

better learn jalapenese though
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>>152223279
Saber: Ataturk
Lancer: Hiro Onoda
Archer: Simo Häyhä
Rider: Manfred von Richthofen
Caster: H.P. Lovecraft
Assassin: Zodiac Killer
Berserker: Rudy Eugene
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>>152225271
The issue is I'm looking for the MC to do it and I was looking for something good. There is a lot of trash in the genre
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Did dovac end up killing himself? What happened?

I only know that he raged and deleted all his tweets
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>>152225760
nobody cares really
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>>152225813
I do that's why I asked retard
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>>152225990
Wow rude. Delete this post right now.
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>tfw not enough time to read a vn before uni starts back up
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>>152227209
>can't sit down and enjoy a VN for more than 5 minutes
>tfw can't take it easy
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>>152227569
>start getting into it finally and remember you have an online course to do some shitty quiz for
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F/HA is garbage
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>>152230286
so is all of nasu shit
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>>152204098
Can you not fuck with the OP? JOPard.
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What does CG mean exactly?
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>>152234069
compute graphic?
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>>152234170
Is that it? Seemed too obvious.
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Flowers is out on cs.rin.ru if anyone is looking for it.
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>>152204098
Thank you for fixing the OP.
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So uhhh... what drugs make you dream?
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http://gematsu.com/2016/08/steinsgate-coming-pc-via-steam-september
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>>152236435
>http://gematsu.com/2016/08/steinsgate-coming-pc-via-steam-september
Wasn't this already on steam? It has no H...
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>>152236462
Nope. 5pb is doing it themselves.
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>>152236632
Shows they're not incompetent at least. I don't see what's so hard about having your own company hire a translator.
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>>152236632
>>152236732
But there is already an official release, right? Why spend resources redoing it?
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>>152236804
Steam only people.
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>>152236896
Why not put the same thing on Steam?
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>>152236804
https://twitter.com/5pbgames/status/766556658000461824
I can't read japanese, but 第1弾 implies that there will be more to me, I think they're just doing Steins;Gate to test the waters because it's popular
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>>152236953
MAGES. has finally become a publisher on Steam. First release is Steins;Gate.
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Flowers has been uploaded

http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1274905#p1274905

Make sure you keep your adblocker on because the download page is fucking bonkers
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Which IPs does 5pb. own? As in, what can we expect from them if they really start publishing for the Western market?
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>>152237879
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=5pb.+vndb
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>>152237848
Have you retards never heard of torrents?
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>Chaos series will never come west

I could care less about S;G the dead horse that 5pb needs to move on from.
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>>152238013
What have torrents got to do with it?
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>>152238013
I'm not the uploader.

It just works, so I couldn't care less about the distribution method.
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>>152237848
>yuri
Yawn. Pass.
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>>152236403
Benzos and tranquilizers, I guess? Or weed, in a weird sort of way, because weed makes you have very vivid dreams when you take a break from smoking.
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>>152238003
Yeah thanks for treating me like a retard, that's not what I'm asking. Some of those are not their property, they simply did the console ports (e.g. Muv-Luv). So, again, which VNs can we expect them to bring over?
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>>152238790
I'm sure if you try hard enough you'll get it anon, I'm cheering you on.
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>>152224862
learn japanese
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>>152239037
Damn, that font looks absolutely terrible.
I assume you can't change it?
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>>152240590
The font is fine. The fact that it's overlapping the textbox is stupid though.
>>
Is there a way to break the drm on KnS2 on my legit copy?
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>>152216242
>>152216358
Truly a purest
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>>152240778
On your own? If you have to ask then no.
You can download the crack somewhere though.
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>>152241121
I thought it was a few simple hex edits. I remember way back when it was being cracked on here.
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>>152216339
Cute butt
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>>152242545
I'm sure your butt is cute too, anon.
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>>152236462
>All this fuckers looking excited
Have they really never known about the novel or is steam that important for those sad fucks?
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>>152243719
>steam that important for those sad fucks?
that
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When is Rakuen coming out?
At this rate Grisaia will truly become irrelevant.
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>>152243783
That is a pretty normalfaggy thing to do. I don't want those kinds of people in my secret club
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>>152243965
too late
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>>152243897
You mean, the unbutchered version? Maybe in half a year?
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>>152244049
Meikyuu unbutchered isn't even out yet, retard. Rakuen unbutchered won't happen until like 2025
>>
is it true there will be like 12 Nekopara games?
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What's with these boxes?
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>>152245631
Nice professional quality there, Jast
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>>152245631
That is obviously the monster speaking. Have you forgotten about Saya no Uta?
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>>152245631
I was also about to post this. Also, I don't like the font.
wtf i hate jast now
>>
I think porn would make Fata Morgana better.
In fact, porn would make everything better.
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>>152246432
I wish I could fuck my professor instead of doing tests
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>>152246432
Michel agrees with you
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Was it rape?
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>>152246771
Anal sex isn't real sex so it doesn't count
t. NTR doujins
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>>152246669
Don't worry, if you grades dropen after the tests then you will get fucked.
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>>152247802
I love you Umi!!!
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Trying to save crashed the game. 10/10.
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>>152247869
JEST does it again
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>>152236804
1080p, has Japanese text according to the steam page.
Problem is the font looks like shit, it might have the same word wrapping issues that the console releases had, and the English edited CGs and videos weren't 1080p.
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>>152245631
>>152247869
Jast being Jast...
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>>152248203
JAST
FUCK
MY
SHIT
UP
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>>152248203
Why can't they ever do it right the first time? Does Peter need to remind himself in every game that his first time was a failure?
>>
So, I want to get into Liar-soft VNs and I'm a filthy EOP. Which one would be the best to start?
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>>152248491
Wait for Sona-nyl
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>>152248491
Forest.
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>>152248491
Gahkthun and Kindred Spirits are the only ones that have been translated well iirc
Sona-nyl seems to be what most people prefer from Sakurai though
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>>152248491
Gay Ghosts on the Rooftop
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>>152248491
Don't, seriously. They simply don't work in English.

Wait until your Japanese is better.
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>>152248682
>implying everyone is learning Japanese
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>>152248682
t. JOP desperately trying to validate his wasted time learning a dead language
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>>152248557
I kinda want one right now though.

>>152248614
>>152248631
I don't really like yuri. Gahkthun might be an idea.

>>152248604
I think I'll go with this first, I like metafiction.

Thanks to everyone.
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>>152248868
Forest has a pretty dated translation FYI and it reads best if you're on drugs
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>>152248724
Oh right, everyone but you is learning it
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>>152248868
>I think I'll go with this first, I like metafiction.
>Forest in English
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>>152248909
I'm reading a vn in Japanese right now family, still a silly judgement to make.
>>
why is the font so garbage
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>>152248682
I can speak in 3 languages, why I have to waste my time learning another language that isn't useful in the RL?
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>>152249083
I hope English is not one of them lmao
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>>152249031
wasnt it done by JAST?
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>>152249083
Japan has the third largest economy in the world you mother fucker and has an incredibly unique culture that produces media unlike anywhere else. It's the MOST useful language. What do you think is more useful? French? What the FUCK are you going to use French for? Talking to the ONE french girl in your geography class? Watching Lolirock? FUCK you no you're not.
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>>152249083
You should focus on improving your English for now. Unless you just wrote that shit to trigger me.
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>>152249154
JOP spotted, be careful, he's dangerous
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>>152249148
No, JAST's version looks like this.
The steam screenshots look like they have the console version font.
Hopefully they fix the wordwrapping issue that the console versions have, though most people won
't notice.
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>>152249870
Yeah. Jesus. That looks way better than >>152249031 in regards to the font.
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>>152249870
you
you did that on purpose didn't you
I hope they let people choose their font at least
>>
>>152249031
>>152249939
Well, personally, I don
't see anything wrong with it, to be honest.
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>>152249870
JAST's fonts, kek.
>>
There's nothing wrong with JAST. They had to push out Flowers early because the demo sucked dick. They didn't want anything more to do with it so they rushed Flowers.
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>>152250020
Fuck, I forgot 4chan removes extra spaces, kill me now, please.
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>>152250057
>There's nothing wrong with JAST
>slow as fuck
>makes Makoto work on kusoge
>sits on 100% translations for years before doing anything with them
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>>152250057
>There's nothing wrong with JAST
Hi, Peter.
>>
>Mages.INC publishing Steins;Gate on Steam
JAST
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>>152250126
The Makoto thing is their worst sin.
He could be finished with Muramasa by now. Seriously. They chose Sonico over Muramasa. The world won't recover from that.
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>>152250185
JEST
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>>152250057
Surely you JAST
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What is your favorite visual novel theory?
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>>152250237
More than Murasame he could have finished Sumaga, but no, they had to translate a VN with gameplay like Sonicomi...
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>>152250237
>Sonico
Dear lord, the only good thing to come from all that is Sonico herself, the fucked up looking baby and the two whales were wholly unneeded.
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>>152250237
Sonico almost definitely sold more than Muramasa would have.

Blame the Western fanbase.
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Decantering from such a height..!
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>>152250441
what
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>>152250451
Sumaga was translated forever ago though
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>>152250507
The problem is they had MAKOTO translate it. MAKOTO. Any joe schmoe could have tl'd sonico. Makoto is one of the few translators capable of doing Muramasa justice, and he already has the whole first chapter done. That they forced him to stop Muramasa and got him on Sonico, is plain injustice.
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>>152250608
That's why I said "finished", but that's JAST for you; they can hold a licence for years and release it when is about to expire.
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>>152250658
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>>152239037
>>152245631
I had that same problem with the font until I let Steam run an EXE before I launched the VN. I just assumed it was because I was in Japanese local, but I guess the font needs to install itself after install the VN.
>>
>>152250658
I think you have a misconception here. Muramasa isn't coming out because of some TL progress or whatever, but because JAST has no interest in releasing it in any foreseeable future. A big chunk of it is already done (way more than chapter 1).
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>>152250862
Look at how smug they are. Smug that they got their fatasses translated instead of Muramasa.
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>>152250520
Incredible...! Tilting from such an angle...!
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>>152250929
So your theory is that JAST paid to have a large chunk of a game translated that they're not interested in releasing in any foreseeable future?
[spoilers]Sounds about right for JAST[/spoiler]
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>>152250912
Thanks for the tip. Much better now.

Also, looks like it still saved even when it crashed, so I guess I can continue fine. Would still like it if it didn't crash, though.
>>
>>152250978
What the fuck is the girl on the left looking at? It sure as hell isn't the tea.
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>>152250978
Do artists draw these originally in dutch angle, or are they cropped and rotated after the fact?
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>>152250929
They could have had Makoto finish the TL and sit on it for later. Now they've broken his spirit and he's quitting JAST.
>>
>>152251095
She's looking at (You).
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>>152251095
She's breaking the fourth wall.
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>>152251095
I'm preparing the milk for the tea and they're a little surprised after seeing the real thing.
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>>152250978
not even major tilt
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>>152250520
>>152250978
How do you make tea like that? In a teapot I mean. Do you just heat it up for 5 minutes and then empty it all? I never understood how you can use a teapot over a longer period of time like a few hours.
>>
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2100700-mystery-object-in-weird-orbit-beyond-neptune-cannot-be-explained/
>new celestial object called Niku
>Japanese have to live in a universe where astronomers are all talking about Meat
>>
>>152251669
She is so hot.
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Holy fuck. My japanese is too superb, I can understand this no issues
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>>152251727
Anglophones might have it worse.
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>>152251727
>“Niku” after the Chinese adjective for rebellious.
I know Chinese, but I still have no idea what word they used for it
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>>152251918
Watch her camshow
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>>152251960
Good, now try this.
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>>152252073
Dude, please don't. That thing demotivate me greatly :(
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If anyone's having trouble with the font in Flowers just run the setup.exe in the 'script' folder once.
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>>152250912
>>152251084
Thanks, I've got it too. You'll just have to run setup.exe in the \script\ folder.
I felt so stupid downloading the Steam demo.
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>>152252015
>claims to know Chinese
>a language that doesn't exist
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>>152252764
Thanks. I pirated it so I didn't have the Steam .exe thing people were talking about.
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>>152252879
That is the exe.
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>>152252764
Oh, thank you for the advice, anon.
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>>152254574
I remember falling asleep on the bus every time I would study Tae Kim. You're exercising your brain. Just keep at it friendo.
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>>152254574
Are Anki reps truly important? Can't I learn vocab as I go through my porn? Or maybe I should do both...
>>
>>152254690
You will NEVER learn kanji just through porn. Anki reps are important.
>>
>>152254690
You do anki for 30 minutes and then read for hours after that. No reason not to use it.
>>
>>152254690
>Can't I learn vocab as I go through my porn
I did that. Still doing that.
But you need a lot of patience for that. Most people don't have the necessary amount of patience for that.

>>152254992
Learning individual kanji rather than words is mostly useless if all you want are porn slideshows.
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>/vn/ splits off again
>both threads turn into djt

How is it so fucking hard to keep the discussion about VNs?
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>>152255096
But how are you going to read the words if they're made up of kanji?
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>Anki
>1000 reps due
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>>152255297
>both threads turn into djt
This is moeg for the past hour+
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>>152255297
That's not how it works. You think if they weren't talking about that there would be VN discussion instead right now? No, it would be dead instead. If you want to talk about stuff bring it up.
>>
Will she die in KnS3?
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>>152255654
If she dies, i will kill myself
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>>152255696
Then be sure to prepare a casket...
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>>152255297
Just report and hide them. Can't make /vn/ great again without pruning the shitposters.
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>>152256020
That's not shitposting though.
だけど好きにしてね
>>
>>152256296
this desu senpai
>>
>>152256296
You're right, breaking the rules and posting content that belongs explicitly in other boards is actually worse than shitposting.
>>
DJT KEKS GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD
NO ONE
WANTS
TO
HEAR
ABOUT
YOU
FAILING
TO
LEARN
JAPANESE
FAGGOT
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>>152256534
>>152256535
Posting from your phone only makes you look sillier.
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>The language is called "Japanese."
>I realize people on the internet think it's funny or cute to call it "moon" or whatever but it's racist. That's all it is - racist.
>Have a nice day.
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>>152256619
Look down and post my response too, spread my word
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>>152256619
Moogy is a clown without jest.
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I wanna start Flowers but I have to meet up with my normie friends... It'll have to wait until tonight.

In the meantime be sure to leave your early impressions here, anons.
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>>152252764
God damn that art is wonderful. Why can't they make a moege with it and not some gay shit.
>>
>>152255297
Visual Novels can't exist without the japanese language so it makes sense we discuss it too. It is a whole nother thing if you play OELVNs of course
>>
>You’ll also have to deal with knowing that the vast majority of people who read visual novels in English don’t have the level of reading comprehension or education necessary to really start to approach interpreting and understanding SubaHibi on anything but a surface level, so your efforts in translating it will be mostly wasted.
- Moogy, KeroQ marketing division
>>
>You’ll also have to deal with knowing that the vast majority of people who read visual novels in English don’t have the level of reading comprehension or education necessary to really start to approach interpreting and understanding SubaHibi on anything but a surface level, so your efforts in translating it will be mostly wasted.
- Moogy, KeroQ marketing division
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>>152256674
No, he's a clown with JAST.
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>>152256618
>phone
I don't even own one fagboy. Nice try deflecting though.
>>
>makes poor life decision in attempting to learn japanese
>fails miserably and can't even grasp basic grammar
>oh boy, time to make /vn/ suffer for my failings
>>
>>152256979
Whom are you quoting?
>>
>>152256836
Mirror fucking moon!
>>
>It's an "Americans just woke up" episode
>>
>>152256979
You can do it if you try hard enough anon.
>>
>>152255297
It's a dumb shitlord who is copypasting posts from DJT. I know because he copied one of my own posts. It's zero effort shitposting and should be reported.
>>
>>152256619
What did he mean by this?
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>>152256979
What do you consider basic grammar? Anyone can handle that と思う。
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>that bad end in ef was a troll added by the fan translators, good job writing an article about you goof
>maybe you should have actually paid for the official translation instead :)
>>
>>152256619
Really makes you think...
>>
>>152257342
:)
>>
>>152256619
Really forces you to contemplate....
>>
When will Moogy get terminal cancer? I hope it's soon.
>>
>>152256619
Really requires you to wonder................
>>
>>152257579
Draw the line. Learn to draw the line!
We are talking about cancer here, not le cancer xd. Cancer. Aaeru was bullied a lot for her views and people made fun of her telling us she had cancer but it isn't funny. She died. And now you're asking for one of the pillars to die too? Just how heartless could one human being be? Rethink your ways!
>>
>>152256619
Really stimulates brain activity...
>>
>>152257818
aaeru was actually cool unlike moogy
>>
>>152257818
I sincerely hope that he gets cancer.
>>
>>152257829
>>152257729
>>152257532
>>152257360
really...
>>
>>152257818
Get cancer and die.
>>
Incest is wrong
>>
Fucking JAST man. Peter should be cucked to death.
>>
>>152255463
>>152255553
>>152256020
>>152256753
>>152257192

NEVER FUCKING REPLY TO ME AGAIN UNLESS YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING TO HTE THREAD!
>>
>>152258742
What happened
At leaast they didn't release that shit translation
>>
You can forget about one game to be able to replay it without any knowledge of it.
Which game do you pick?
I'd pick YU-NO
>>
>>152259015
Eustia
>>
>>152259015
Fate Stay Night, so it can change my life again...
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>>152258708
Didn't Kikokugai teach you what happens when you don't fuck your family members?
>>
>>152259015
Ikikkoi
>>
>>152259015
Tomoyo After, except I'd leave myself a note saying not to play it.
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>>152259015
None.
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>>152259015
Cross Channel I guess, so I can read it in Japanese again and erase my Ixrec memories...
>>
>>152259454
You mean Ixwreck.
>>
>>152259015
MLA.
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>>152259160
Whoa.............
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>>152259015
I might pick one of the three.
Steins;Gate, so I can cry again on true route.
If not that, then Danganronpa 2, so I can cry again when Gundham dies.
Or maybe I want to read MLA again and break myself.
>>
If Subahibi doesn't come out today I'm ending it.
>>
>Denpasoft & calme & Sekai Project
So KARAKARA is a Sekai-made game? An /evn/ game, right? ...
>>
>>152261234
no it was written by the same hackfraud who wrote the awful Yumiko route in Grisaia
>>
>>152261234
The Japanese DMM and dlsite listing for the game lists sekai project as the developer, so I think that's a fair assumption.
>>
>>152261474
Damn. If only the writer was the Michiru guy
>>
>>152261234
>So KARAKARA is a Sekai-made game?
That would explain why it's shit.
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Do you like speech balloons?
>>
How do I know if a translation is shit if I don't know Japanese?
>>
>>152262430
Go on Moogy's twitter and parrot everything you see
>>
>>152250237
Sonico is actually what Nitroplus wanted them to put priority on.
>>
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Looks like english Dies Irie translation and steam release is confirmed.
>>
https://twitter.com/deepbluejeer/status/766673628171603969
>>
>>152262430
The moogy-approved translators are:
>Aroduc
>Koestl
>Arunaru
>Makoto
>Good Haro
>Blackdragonhunt
>vvav
>cafe
>Phar
>Himself
If the name isn't here, avoid it like the plague
>>
>>152262652
>>152262686
Will it be self published?
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>>152262689
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>>152262652
>>152262686
>>
>>152262854
Welp. Moogy doesn't play nukiges, it can't be helped! We know of your potential though
>>
>>152262854
Keep your chin up Quof. The scene will recognize your talents someday I'm sure.
>>
>>152262652
>>152262686
>Steam
Puking desu
>>
>>152262430
You learn Japanese yourself because listening to wannabe e-celebs is stupid.
>>
>normies are gonna play Dies irae while knowing nothing about visual novels
Not sure how I feel about this
>>
>>152262652
>>152262686
Oh boy normies are going to play Dies Irae. This is going to be hilarious.
Where's your moogy now.
>>
>>152263156
Yeah I, doubt it.

It's like anti-normie the VN considering it's fucklong density and German wankery.

Normies will see the psuedo-Nazi uniforms and have a moral outrage.
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>>152263181
I haven't even mastered the kanjis yet but this is the game I don't want in english! I just don't, the magic will disappear! My treasuuuure
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>>152263291
It's not even the same game in English, just wait until you're better and read it in its pure form.
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>>152263246
Sup Conjueror
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>>152262652
>>152262686
>yfw it comes out and it's trash and it being good was just one big meme Japanese readers made up to mess with EOPs
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>>152263416
t. EOP
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>>152263468
I hope it flops really hard, fuck EOPs.
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>>152263468
Of course it's trash in English, the literal VN hinges on the prose. Same for Sona nyl.
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>>152263619
t. JOP desperately trying to validate his wasted time learning a dead language
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>>152262652
NonononoNONONONONO
They CANNOT do this to us
I DID NOT WASTE MY TIME LEARNING JAPANESE JUST FOR FUCKING ENGLISH READERS TO GET IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCK
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>>152208990
I wonder why Soushichi never mentions the small details of his abilities to others, such as the ability to hear the voice of the metal objects. Yatagarasu in particular is curious of his ancestors, so it could be a vital clue. I get that the two dislike each other and that's reason enough for the MC not to talk to him, but what about Karasu and the other characters?
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JOPs, hold onto these
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THIS IS THE FUCKING END. CONJUEROR AND ANYONE SHOULD HAVE DECLINED A TRANSLATION OF THAT ON PRINCIPLE. FUCK IT ALL
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>>152263619
>this will be the excuse used when English readers say that it's actually garbage chuunishit
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>JOPs on suicide watch
You're almost all out of kamige. Sad!
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>>152263678
>7 years old
>worse experience since lol english
>no KKK or Ikabey to follow up with
wew its fuckin nothing
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>>152263135
Link me the core2k deck family so I can learn.
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lmao remember the tweet Conjueror deleted on April 1st where he said he was working on Dies with Gare as a "joke"?
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>>152263809
Kamige didn't stop being made back in 2007/2009 when Dies came out, dude. Getting this excited over a 7-9 year old game is just showing how starved EOPs are, not that JOPs are in a bad place.
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>>152263847
Acceptance sure kicked in fast.
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>>152264070
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>>152264070
>damage control already
wew lad
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>>152264149
Don't mind me, I'm just downloading the trial to what could be the hypest game of 2016. Oh, what, there's no translation of it? Just wait until 2025, maybe it'll come out then!
>>152264231
That Dies is coming out is fine with me, more people get to play a cool game. It's the "out of kamige" thing that's silly.
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>>152262686
Where did he see this at?
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>>152263721
Kek
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>>152264301
Nice kusoge
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>>152264309
https://twitter.com/verdelishJP/status/766675637255876608
during one of their streams apparently
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NO NO NO NOOOOOO IVE BEEN READING THE WORST MOEGE AND NUKIGE FOR THE PAST 6 MONTHS TO GRIND MY VOCAB AND I SEE THIS I PROBABLY STILL NEED 2 YEARS OF VOCAB BEFORE I CAN READ DI AND NOW ITS GETTING TRANSLATED THE WHOLE POINT OF LEARNING JAPANESE FOR ME WAS DI FUCK THIS FUCK YOU ENGLISH PLEBS
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>>152264458
You know there's sequels to DI and stuff? Those won't be translated for awhile. You're still on top, bud.
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>>152264301
Nigga that demo is shit. I hope it gets better.
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>>152264301
>garbage written by that hack Mareni
>hypest game of 2016
No
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I think we can all agree the worst part of this is when both the anime AND the Steam release come out next year...
Reddit and Steam summerfags will fucking overrun us.

>>152264458
https://vndb.org/v5844
https://vndb.org/v18685
https://vndb.org/v12455

Here you go friend, nothing of this will released in the next 5-10 years.
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If its censored only its shit.
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>>152264775
It's the 17+ version so yeah its kusoge
Enjoy your garbage EOPs
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Bokuten English release fucking when?
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People are already saying it's overhyped shit. When is moogy's calling dies irae irrelevant coming?
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>>152262652
>>152262686
AHAHAHAHA
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>>152265297
I'd say it's more like Brothers Karamazov in a way. Intelligent readers of literature love it, but common plebs find it boring. It's like that. People are saying Dies is kami and truly wonderful, but dumb plebs will likely not get into it.
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>>152265297
Well, it's not overhyped, but it's safe to say 90% of the people on Steam and probably this thread as well won't like it.

It's slow, philosophical, dense and LONG. Really long. If you're a fan of both books and eroge then you will likely love it though.
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I don't even like chuuni stuff so I'm not really excited for DI. Is that bad?
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>>152265297
go read some Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, and Wagner and you'll be right in the German mindset for Dies Irae
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>>152265553
Moogy only reads cute girls fiction and he liked DI though
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>>152265505
"LONG" is what makes it good for me.
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>>152265660
moogy hates moege.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>152265660
DI has plenty of cuties mate
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>>152265528
there's nothing bad about not getting on a hype train

in-fact most of the people on that hype train will probably not get it at all
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>>152265660
Moogy doesn't know Japanese.
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Do you think the localization will come before the anime? I really hope so, but I have a feeling it will come afterwards... guess I'll delay the anime
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>>152265774
Yes. I went in Grisaia without knowing the hype and was very pleased. I hope I'll be able to enjoy Subahibi and DI too (in japanese of course, fuck EOPs).
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>tfw too dumb and not intellectual enough to enjoy Dies Irae

how do I cope with this feel?
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>>152265660
Moogy is just a psuedo-JOP because all JOPs suck Germanic cock like no tomorrow

There's a reason it's probably one of the only countries in the world which is still heavily dedicated to the Western Germanic canon. Japanese people are more German than Germans these days.
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>>152266058
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>tfw didn't fall for the learn Japanese meme
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>>152266135
Hello surprised anime girl
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>>152265949
Fuck off to the /moe/ circlejerk that they have to keep off page 10 by posting textless CGs with no discussion
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>>152265872
this discovery is too sudden to give us any information on the localization IMO
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>>152266231
is that what they're doing? Wew
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What's different in the ~Amantes amentes~ version? Is it just cut HCG?
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How funny would it be if the "stolen project" tweet that Conjueror deleted was about Dies and Light is employing an inhouse team of Japanese natives? lol
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>>152266462
I would literally laugh my ass off if that was the case
I would probably read it too if it's as Engrish as this
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>>152266437
New routes.
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People are overlooking the biggest thing, it will be 720p (the original JOP version is 800x600)
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>>152266646
Cool. Honestly I don't care about cut HCG in something like Dies Irae.
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>>152266462
I would be so happy
>>152266684
Yeah, sure anon, the higher resolution is DEFINITELY bigger than the translation
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>>152266684
Anything below 1080p is shit anyway.
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>>152266740
Gore scenes are cut too
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>>152266462
>EOPs get some Gin'iro tier inhouse translation

I'd laugh so hard.
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Who /linguafranca/ here?
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>>152266758
>the higher resolution is DEFINITELY bigger than the translation
What the fuck did you want to say?
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How important and frequent are H-Scenes in Dies?
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>>152266846
O-oh. Really? It's 17+. Kind of weird for them to cut gore.
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According to moogy the bad version is getting localized
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>>152266917
What he meant is clear if you know English.
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>>152267013
Wow it's confirmed trash. Hype dead.
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>>152267013
Yeah but Moogy is a retard
Can anyone with a functioning brain chime in on this?
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>>152266943
I don't know how many fucking editions Japanese vns have but apparently that version came out on PSP first so I'd blame CERO/light not being ballsy enough to go for CERO Z
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>>152266892
Who the fuck is studying Turkish on the map?
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>>152266846
Source?
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>>152267013
Thanks Steam
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>>152267013
wtf i hate di now
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You realize how many nerds here have never read a single book in their lives when they think a translation has to be strictly inferior to the original.

It's especially funny when we're talking about japanese stories aimed at adolescents and man-children that are everything but well-written in comparison to classic literature

rest in peace JOPs
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>>152267013
great, the hypes dead boys just fucking end it
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>>152267013
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>>152267417
>this much in denial what you're getting is a much worse version
lmao
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>>152267417
For a translation to be superior to the original, the translator must be a better writer than the original author. You're not like to find a J->E translator who's a better writer than Masada. It's only downhill.
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>>152267013
Sounds to me that he's upset his sacred cow isn't sacred anymore and is switching to another version of it so he can keep lording it over people.
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>Steam only
I hate this meme
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>>152267191
Garejei prefers the AA version.
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>>152263689
nobody ever asks him about it when he finds out he can do such things, everytime someone would ask him about his abilities he'd go "eh iunno, i can sorta do this." and by the time he figures out what he can do he's busy crushing pussy or in the middle of the climatic final battle wherein afterwards nobody cares about what he can do because it's over.
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Hyped for dies irea

>Garbage Chuuni

Hyped for Rance

> No voice acting, shitty resolution, 12 year old

Hyped for baldr sky

>All ages

Why didn't eop learn japansese again?
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>>152267492
>>152267547

wtf i love dies irae now
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>>152267638
Hyped for discussion on 4chan

>Ridiculous Strawman
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>>152267638
wtf i hate dies irae now
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>>152267638
>letting yourself get meme'd on this hard
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>>152267638
Here we see Bargaining
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>>152267890
>moogy project
Yeah, right.
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>>152267520
He doesn't necessarily need to be a better writer. Of course he has to know how to write decently but what matters most is the understanding of the original author's mind and all that stuff.

According to Flaubert, a fucking woman (whom he was close to) wrote a perfect translation of Madame Bovary and she was not famous for anything else (her name wasn't even retained)
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>>152267890
>M.oo.gy bringing kami.ge to the West
LITERALLY OUR GUY
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>>152267970
I fail to see how an inferior writer will surpass a superior writer, but alright.

And I'm sure the man complimenting a woman he was close to was completely unbiased and clear minded.
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>>152267890
>moogy on the team
Dropped
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>>152268105
he translated 1% and then dropped it and sat on the pizza money for the rest of the ride
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>>152268114
>Projecting feelings onto Flaubert because you have no argument
I think we're done here lol
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>>152268264
>ignoring the first line because you have no argument
I think we're done here lol
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Why do twitterfags treat Japanese porn books as deep philosophical works that really make you think
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>>152268346
Flaubert just told you that assumption is wrong though. Care to dispute him? This time without resorting to logical fallacy, please.
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>>152268440
Because it's what they've spent most of their lives spending time with and they're trying to make up for their inferiority by pretending that it's high art

You see this with Video game journalists too
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Reminder that you have to watch Princess Tutu and read German classics before even thinking of playing Dies irae to enjoy it.
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>>152268480
Flaubert was a fag though.
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>>152268480
Sure, I'll write a letter to him later today. I'll inform you of his response.
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>>152268440
They haven't accomplished anything else in their life.
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>>152268480
Ironic that you'd say "without resorting to logical fallacy" while committing the appeal to authority fallacy yourself.
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>>152268114
It's very hard to judge what good writing is. Of course there is a big difference between the kind of books you buy at a railway station or just what is popular nowadays but once you reach a certain point it's only a matter of perspective. You'd be hard pressed to find a particular writer adulated by a significant majority of literate people.

And Flaubert was a fucking writing autist, it was literally all his life and I don't think he'd allowed his work to be shat upon by a woman just to get a damn pussy. He died alone and childless btw.
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>>152268527
My favorite attitude of the Twitter clique.
>You have to be intimately familiar with academic and philosophical literature to read this porn game for 95 IQ Japanese Otaku
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>>152268527
I'm not reading any books that don't have cute anime girls in them.
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>>152268779
Ironic you would say that when committing the "Argument from Fallacy" fallacy. You activated my trap card, you silly bitch.
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>>152268804
fucking this holy shit

I love VNs but they're everything but high literature (still better than anime though)
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>>152268804
>>152269047
t. Retards who aren't well read and cannot understand high-brow visual novels and have to compensate for their failings by attempting to bring the novels down to their pitiable level
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>>152268804
>>152269047
You're the exact kind of person he's laughing at. Have fun going into Dies irae with those expectations and getting utterly crushed and dropping the VN within 10 minutes.
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>>152268527
Dies Irae is literally Fate/Stay Night: Nazi edition.
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>>152268980
That's a shallow, overdone response. I didn't say you were wrong because you used a fallacy, so I didn't commit the fallacy fallacy. I said it was ironic you would tell someone not to use fallacious arguments while doing so yourself. Next time, think before you speak or you'll embarrass yourself like this again.
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>releasing a butchered version because lolsteam

so who's pirating
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>>152269235
yar
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>>152269107
>>152269123

Wow I feel like I just walked into the middle of the MegaTen reddit.
Those are the kind of reactions you get when pointing that Persona 3 and 4 are trash aimed at virgins desperate for any semblance of social life.
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>>152269047
>>152268804
The first year philosophy student in this thread trying his hardest to justify his future burger flipping career at mcdonalds by flaunting his "intellectual superiority" is much worse than whatever castel is saying on twitter. Look how many philosophers and authors I can namedrop XDDD please be impressed. He literally can't make a post without fellating some classical writer's dick. It was very noticable even before Dies Irae ever came on the table.

Go fuck yourself pretencious cunt
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>>152269216
Dismissing an argument entirely solely because it's fallacious ticks the fallacy. Take a formal logic class, I'm begging and pleading you.
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>>152269414
Who are you referring to?
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>It's barely been announced and it's already creating retarded "intellectual" shitstorms

This gon' be good
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>>152269414
Hi moogy, how is your social life?
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>>152269469
I didn't dismiss it. I said, "that's ironic", not, "I'm dismissing it". Maybe try reading what you reply to?
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The posters in this thread are terrible.
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>>152268527
Why are so many Japanese readers so far up their own asses?
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>>152264458
Why not grind your vocab on good stuff instead?
Reading shit on purpose because you don't understand 100% of it is dumb.
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>>152270268
why are you so insecure
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I hope my high school philosophy classes will be enough to fully appreciate DI.
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>>152270510
How did you reach that conclusion?
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>>152270739
it was a question not a conclusion
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>Overhyped VN get translated
Nice, I can't wait to see how shit it actually is.
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>>152271016
The only thing you'll see is how low your IQ really is. Place your bet, 70s, 60s or low 50s?
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>>152270807
it was a question that had a conclusion in it. ;^)
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>>152271187
you win this one
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>>152271139
I already know mine but thanks. I just want to see how shit the VN is for myself.
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>/jp/ is making fun of us again
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>>152265949
Read more books
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>>152271225
I always win because I read more books than you and am therefore smarter than you. Please never read Dies Irae.
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>>152271729
nice
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>>152268804
you know kastel is the only one who'd do that, right
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>2 months in learning Japanese
Should in give up? It looks like everything is getting translated .
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>>152272160
Yes.
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>>152272160
Nice try falseflagging EOP.
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>>152272160
JOP here. I'm so fucking mad I can taste splinters in my mouth from banging my head against the wooden desk.

Don't learn it, bro. /jp/ lied to us. The filthy West is getting all our kamige.
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>>152272283
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>>152272160
>It looks like everything is getting translated .
Well it's not so relax.
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>>152272283
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR I DIDNT WASTE TWO YEARS OF MY LIFE FOR THIS
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>>152272160
If you dont want to read anything obscure, sure
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>>152262652
>>152262686
>Steam
Looks like I'll finally have to make an account then.
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>>152272923
you could just pirate it.
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>>152272923
Or just pirate this.
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>>152273117
>>152273174
Yeah, but I really don't want to see something like this fail though.
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So how's Flowers?
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>>152236403
A life.
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>>152273373
It's good in Japanese, god knows how bad the translation is,
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>>152273476
>It's good in Japanese

Is this the new meme?
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>>152273567
>prose is important in a novel
Good job on only realizing this now.
>>
I launch Hanachirasu. I take off my pants. I start the game, getting ready to unleash my fury. I read the text. It's hard not to skip till the main event. Here comes the fight. This is some goon moping some other goons. Not yet, this is not the main badass of the game, i can wait. Then after a couple of minutes, he comes. Yes, the shiny sword, the perfect technique. He crashes goons like nothing. I can't contain my raging boner. I twist my "sword", imitating Akane's "tsubame gaeshi" and at the same time training IAIdo motions. It feels good. My "sword" shoots. That was perfect. I guess that's it for the warmup.
I launch Muramasa. Time for the main dish.
Kageaki is having a duel. He faces his opponent mirroring her pose. Normally people would watch at the girl but that's not the case for me. I can see the ending! I know that she will lose. Her technique is inadequate. I can see it. Half an hour of description of this poor girl waiting to get cut and at last the fight ends. Of course, Kageaki is the best.
Then i hear this...
"Oni ni ou tewa oni o kiru...".
That phrase switches something in my mind, my dick getting even harder than last time. I can't stop. My sword gets even hotter than Masamune's one of the seven tricks- fire sword , nothing can stop my calory burn but it doesn't matter. Kageaki prepares his electric sword and so do I. "Yoshino Honored Style Battle Technique..." I can't hear the rest as my sword also electrifies and prepares to shoot the enemy. The calory exhaustion finally gets me and collapse in exctasy.
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>>152273567
Everything is better in Japanese. It's not a stretch to say it's the most rich, beautiful, and complex language on the planet.
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>>152273567
>my edited machine translation is just as good, if not better than the original
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>>152273770
Whose are you quoting?
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lol
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It's honesty incredible.

Being happy for a dies irae tl now, is like being happy if just now TTGL, Code Geass, or Denno Coil would have been announced for a tl that would take 2 or 3 years from today.
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>>152273834
This is actually so hilarious

>keeps secret project hidden for nearly one year
>hypes it up all the time
>creates a fucking tournament where his project wins
>even makes a countdown for the grandiose reveal which gets called off at the last second
>game gets leaked on a poster in a livestream
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>>152274212
I'm sure they'll shoot for a release date near or at the end of the anime.
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>>152274212
I've no idea why you brought up anime because those get instant translations, but good taste on Dennou Coil.
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>>152274404
The lesson is that the will never be a greater translator then moogy.
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>>152274404
>creates a fucking tournament where his project wins
You mean the one where he had to disqualify all TM games since he didn't realize how popular they were and they beat all his precious shit games?
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>>152274775
he disqualified TM crap because they're garbage games, thanks Conjueror-sama
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>>152274561
>>152274454
Just trying to put a time scale on it. Just think back to when you watched those shows. They released around the same time as Dies Irae.

I blame the piracy culture around vns
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>>152273825
Ixrec, obviously
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>>152274921
From his wordpress:

>My favorites:

>Subarashiki Hibi -Discontinous Existence-
>Himawari
>Full Metal Daemon Muramasa
>Umineko no Naku Koro ni
>Island
>Tsukihime
>Fate/Stay Night
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>>152275169
>nasu and r07 garbage
wtf i hate conjueror now
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>>152275169
yeah, he's lying about liking Tsukihime and Fate though, he puts those up high so retards who like them will go, "Hey, I liked Fate! Maybe I'll like other kamige like Muramasa of Subahibi!?" and thus Conjueror-sama helps the plebs get introduced to high-brow visual novels whereupon they'll realize that Nasu VNs are populist trash. it's a genius move, really. sausages, Conjueror-sama.
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>>152275379
no
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>>152275453
oh
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>>152268527
>literature major
>read this

ahahahahah holy shit

He just picked some random famous German 'names' and decided they were top-tier literature. No one in intellectual circles considers Nietzsche to be anything but a trite moron. Faust was an alchemist, I'm not quite sure what intellectual lessons you'll learn from reading him to be quite honest. I also can't find any German Sternes, unless he means Laurence Sterne (who was Irish-American), in which case his works are entirely unnecessary in terms of Germanic intellectual writing.
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>>152274404
>mfw conjewer is as big of a shill as moogy
>trying to hype up his game with a staged tornament
>down playing the no ero, most likely a question he seedes himself.

fuck is nothing sacred? He was supposed to destroy moogy and the TL cartel, not join them....
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>>152275583
ok
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>>152275583
>literature major

Do you really have any right to laugh at people?
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>>152275169
What is so great about Island
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>>152275665
Quit giving people you've never met personality traits that reflect what you want, instead of what their actions suggest.
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>>152275583
>He just picked some random famous German 'names' and decided they were top-tier literature
he doesnt mention their quality at all, the point is that Dies Irae references a lot of Niezsche philosophy
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>>152275778
Not really, no. Then again, I was able to land a teaching career in a private school. I'd say teaching Catholic schoolgirls about the wonders of literature is quite a fun place to be.

At least I avoided the entire "intellectual degree flipping burgers" thing.
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>>152275583
>>152275910
he also doesn't mention any towards Germans exclusivity in his examples, so your point regarding Stern is kinda silly

for a literature major you are surprisingly lacking in reading comprehension.
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>>152275853
He was even shitting on moogy, recently. All the shit he said was just to get us on his side, all the "no ero" is not a big deal shit he said waa just ti down play the censored version of the game he is going to sell.

WHAT THE FUCK

This guy us a better manipulator than moogy.

WTF

Day 1 pirate.
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>>152275910
Then it's nothing but garbage.

Nietzsche was essentially a teenager in mind. His writing, and most likely Dies Irae if it draws inspiration from him, are the height of 'chuuni' shit.
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>>152275665
>>mfw conjewer is as big of a shill as moogy
Well, both have similar taste; they hate ero.
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>>152276197
Most literarture majors are retarded so it's no surprise.
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>>152276229
moving goalposts
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>>152276229
This guy right here is proof that even people with an IQ below 50 can get a "literature major".
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>>152276197
One would imagine in a game wanking Germany, with 3/4 examples being German, that he meant someone who produced German intellectual writing. Sterne was a good writer, but there's little reason to think that he and Goethe are the essentials of intellectualism.
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>>152276307
>they hate ero.
Conjueror actually loves ero and likes to wank off to nukige
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The writing in oregairu is more intellectually stimulating than Nietzsche.
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>>152276321
>>152276362
>resorting to personal attacks

It's okay. I'm sure once you spend three years learning Japanese to the point of playing the original Dies Irae, you definitely won't be let down by the idle musings of teenage philosophy or chuuni bullshit that flies around wrapped up in unnecessarily dense syntax.
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>>152275781
Some girls are cute there. That's about that.
>>152272575
We're fine. Jast is holding our position.
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>>152276473
>believing his lies
He's just saying that so there's no backlash on him when there's nothing but all ages releases that he secretly pushes for. You fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
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>>152276621
Okay low IQ anon, you can stop posting now.
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>>152276473
>Crappy side-stories better than porn & gore.
See this; >>152267492
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>>152276619
The only thing it makes me think is this guy is inflicted with a case of terminal retardism.
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>No porn

Do I even need to tell you where it belongs?

The same place as flowers, Rewrite, and Umineko.
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>>152276698
You don't have to be upset, anon. The rest of us understand. You were just fucking with the EOPs by acting like it was a great work of literature. Now that it is finally being translated into English, you realize the jig is up and soon those EOPs will realize the 'greatest VN' is just chuuni garbage.

This isn't the first time this has happened. I doubt it will be the last.
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>>152277154
I'm pretty sure that Rewrite+ will sell better than a censored Dies irae.
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>>152277281
DELETE THIS
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>>152276420
>One would imagine in a game wanking Germany, with 3/4 examples being German, that he meant someone who produced German intellectual writing
sure, ok, but he named a writer that wasn't German and never said anything about German exclusivity. your point is still bad. this coupled with what i mentioned here (>>152275910) makes you hard to take seriously when it really looks like you didn't read his posts.

>there's little reason to think that he and Goethe are the essentials of intellectualism.
he never said that either.
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>>152277281
People keep falling for the kamige meme.
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>>152277448
But Baldr sky and Muramasa are real Kamige though.
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>>152276619
Woah........
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>>152277448
There is only one kamige in the world.
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>know Japanese
>never actually read Dies Irae
Is it worth those > 50 hours?
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>>152262689
moogy approves of conj+gare as well, as per ask.fm
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>>152277665
If you enjoy chuunige like Fate then yes.
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>>152277667
He retracted that statement after he saw conjueror translated onii-chan to setsu-poo.
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>>152277536
*wink wink*

The hilarious thing is jrpg fans have wisen up to the joke, but vn fans are still behind. The good old days of saying tails if hearts on the vita was kamige and the same with sen no kiseki. Good times.
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>>152277918
t. EOP
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>>152275583
Nietzsche has considerable influence though. Georg Brandes, Thomas Altizer, Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, Alfred Adler, Thomas Mann, Hermann Hesse, André Malraux, André Gide, Knut Hamsun, Rainer Maria Rilke, Allen Ginsberg, Gary Snyder, George Bernard Shaw, the list could on...

Arguably his contributions to psychology were more important than his ones towards philosophy. Mostly because Schopenhauer did everything Nietzsche did, but better.
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HAND OVER ALL OF YOUR GOOD SLICE OF LIFE VN'S THAT WERE LIKE NOBLE WORKS AND CANVAS 2 NOW!
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>>152278005
Wrong general, go to /moeg/
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>>152278005
>putting noble works and canvas in the same sentence
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>>152277981
w/e you say bud.
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>>152278170
I love this meme
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>>152278000
Dies Irae focuses on his philosophical work, not his psychological. So I focused on that aspect of him, didn't feel the need to bring up the rest.

I just hate the Renaissance his work is going through because of retards in places like Reddit who think the ubermensch is the coolest thing ever. Like those Neo-Pagans that profess to worship Thor or Odin. Just idiots glorifying old shit that isn't relevant.
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>>152278384
>Just idiots glorifying old shit that isn't relevant.
It's just like Grisaia.
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>>152278608
Kek
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>>152277918
Here's how it goes:
>some guy picks new game in Japanese
>doesn't know what to expect
>ends up enjoying the game
>goes on internet saying he liked it
>so do several other guys
>people who don't know Japanese hear it and hype it up for several years
>when the translation comes the expectations are miles high
>turns out the game isn't exactly a life changing experience with universal appeal
>most people who were hyped for no reason end up shitting on it
That's what happens every single time.
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>>152278925
The crucial factor missing from your story is Masada's popularity in Japan
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>>152278213
Ayy fug u they were fun
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>>152279003
Reki Kawahara is also popular.
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>Playing Starlight Vega
>Fall in love with Lyria
>Can't bring myself to cheat on her for a bad end
>Have to constantly ignore her and make her sad for the alternate route
My heart just can't take this. I can't finish it ;_;
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>>152278342
what's this?
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>>152279003
I think it's very much overblown through your internet circlejerk prism.
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>>152279432
No it isn't, it's a masterpiece. The problem lies with you, not the game.
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>>152279432
It's not, just look at his twitter and compare it to other scenarists.
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>>152278384
Hate the fanbase, not the writer. I don't really like a lot of Nietzsche philosophy myself, but it isn't all focused on ubermensch related stuff. Ubermensch is mostly just a philosophical answer towards the problem of Nihilism. Just like how Descartes used God to solve the numerous philosophical questions posed in his Meditations. The key thing I took away about Ubermensch is to allow yourself to be your own moral compass (a few other philosophers cover this as well).

Anyway, the renaissance for his philosophical work has already past, really. It already occurred in the early 20th century when a lot of writers started noticing his works and taking influence from it. If Reddit fedoras are just now noticing his works then I don't think it should count as a 'renaissance' for him.

Philosophy-wise, Wagner and Hegel are more interesting to me when it comes to the Germanic tradition. Wagner liked to take the piss out of Nietzsche which is always funny.

>The greatest affront between the two occurred in 1877. Nietzsche went to the doctor as he was going blind, commonly considered to be due to masturbation. Wagner went behind Nietzsche’s back to find out about his condition and urged the doctor to tell Nietzsche to restrain himself.
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>>152279420
It's a book on how colors have shaped Japanese traditions. It's really good and is filled with history and shinwa. Like when the shogunate banned the merchant class from wearing colorful kimonos. Each page is dedicated to a color and part of history or tradition.
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>>152279524
Masada: 13K followers
SCA-Ji: 28K followers
Urobuchi: 298K followers

If nasu had a twatter he'd beat them all.
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>Yummers+Gare+Moogy+Makoto+Koestl
Imagine this team translating Dies irae. They will give Masada a run for his money
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What am I in for?
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>>152280286
>moogy
lol
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>>152280286
Moogy stop including yourself on lists with actually good translators.
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>>152280286
No porn pretty much means it wont make much money in the west.
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>>152280364
Lesbians.
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>>152280364
A yuri Kamige ruined by a mediocre translation. Even the hardest core of TL defenders wont defend this one.
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>>152280585
Is it still shit even after they said they were going to fix it up?
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>>152280585
Sometimes I jerk off to BDH's thrashing of the Demo. It makes for great wank material.
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>>152280585
Looks fine to me so far.

It keeps throwing cute girl CGs at me and I'm not even ten minutes in. Nice.
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>>152280364
No sex
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>>152281025
>gazing at me, Frozen.
What a weird name.
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>>152280585
>Kamige
It's popular? I thought nips were unable to self insert in girls
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>>152281025
>Cherry trees
>not cherry blossom

It's yuri you fucks, make it flowery.
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>>152281025
>that sentence
holy literal translation lmao
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>>152281479
It's not that popular but if you want to read something popular, right now sword art online is the hottest thing since twilight.
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I can't wait for Dies Irae: Miley Cyrus edition.
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>>152281923
Why would you define it as holy? It makes it sound like it's good...
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Dies irae was announced and the only thing I'm thinking about is how to get into Ressha's pants... I want to do nasty things to that boipussy of his.
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>>152250912
>>152246359
>tfw when I like this font better than the English font
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>>152282082
If only it were Jast's I would sleep peacefully knowing I could learn jpn faster then they'd be able to release it...
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>>152282095
It's just very stiff. Sure all the important plot points will be there but Flowers really depends on it's prose.
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>>152281840
They do say cherry blossoms as well.


Damn, the MC is a complete shut-in social retard. I love her already.
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>>152282650
What? How can anyone look at this and say "yep looks like an English sentence"?
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>>152263156
You really think they're going to pay 50 bucks for a VN that no normie has ever heard of when they can less than half of that to play Danganronpa, Steins Gate or Clannad?
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>>152282828
Can you give me a run-down of everything wrong with the sentence, please?
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>>152282650
Literally the cathedral from Evangile
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>>152282960
yeah Evangile invented cathedrals for sure
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>>152282828
I can but I'm but you would call an ESL. How would you phrase it instead?
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That girl with silly faces, were from DI ?
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>>152282914
They'll just buy it based on the cool looking screenshots, then after 10 minutes leave a bad review because "when does the gameplay begin this is just text...?"

>>152282936
>flushes hotly
Does the game have an option for the original Japanese for that line? If so post that
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>>152283247
No, she's from another VN series by the same author.
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>>152283247
No she's from Soushuu Senshinkan Gakuen Hachimyoujin
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>>152283254
>Does the game have an option for the original Japanese for that line? If so post that
of course not, lol. that would encourage people to trash on their shitty translation. no way they'd do that.
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>>152282650
Yea she is perfect. Don't let the stiff translation keep you down. It's still has good character scenes.
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>>152283254
Is there not a visual novel tag or something on Steam?
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>>152283767
There is, that guy is just acting like fucking retard
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>>152269123
>>152269107
These elitists cirlejerking over their """"""""untranslatable"""""""""" mongolian picture book porn games is great.

They're exactly the kind of people I love laughing at.
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>>152284013
He said, while sobbing silently into his body-pillow of Nagamitsu Maya
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If I upgrade to windows 10 will all my old visual novels still work? Was thinking about making the change, don't really give a crap out the spyware
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>2016
>learning Japanese
I sure hope you guys don't do this.
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Why wasn't I born a cute lesbian?

>>152283746
Of course. I don't have a problem with the translation, even if some lines do feel stiff.
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>>152284187
Yes.
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>>152284256
Too late for that now. One month in and I can't stop anymore
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>>152251704
teapots are made to go on the stovetop. The teapot keeps the tea warmer over longer periods of time, so you don't just pour it all out into a giant cup. A normal pot will give you 3 or 4 cups, but you can get larger ones.
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>>152284559
>muh sunk cost
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All these "well read" chuuni fan wanks that suddenly love German literature. They don't even mention steppenwolf or hermann hesse.

You fags are just wankers that like whatever moogy and conjewer tell you to like. Admit. it.
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>>152284291
>Why wasn't I born a cute lesbian?
Just get run over by a truck and you too can become a cute girl in your next life.
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>>152284660
But is extracting the leaves for that long a good idea? And do you just pour a full cup from the teapot or only a little and dilute the rest with water?
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>>152285145
Meh, if it's similar to princess tutu it can't be too bad. I can't wait for 2017, between LOGH, F/E, HF, and DI there should be great shitstorms on /a/ since it's been hyped as the best thing ever.
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>>152283341
>>152283397
Fuck. I thought I can finally see the other faces she make ;_;
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>>152286243
There is still a reason to learn japanese. Yokatta...
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>>152286081
They're going to fuck up LOGH aren't they
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>New Generation is 91% translated and edited

Cool
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>>152286372
It is a guaranteed fuck up, but no one expects anything so it won't be too big of a letdown unless it ends up being Berserk 2016 tier.
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>>152286461
Jesus. How can Sekai even compete
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>>152286563
SukiSuki3 is almost done too. Meanwhile SP hasn't even half way done with Ranman or CC after a year.
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>>152286563
Need I remind you?
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>>152286461
Guessing we'll have Himawari within the next few months.
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So there's a chance we'll get Island, Dies Irae and Sona-nyl all in 2017? Pretty sweet. Well if Light decides to release DI around the time of the anime anyways.
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>>152287230
The next 2 years look bright. It's only a matter of time before August succumbs to someone.

I just pray that they either decide to self-publish or go with MG.
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>>152287230
Hardly sweet considering how old the latter two are while also not even being half as good in English.
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>>152287545
> not even being half as good in English

lol JOPs
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>>152287357
We can only hope.

>>152287545
No need to be such a downer. I'm pretty excited about it.
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>>152287545
Looks like this is going to be the new breed of shitposting. Complaining about "muh subtle nuances" being lost in translation.
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>>152286461
That's cool and stuff, but >>152264847.
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>>152287867
It's not subtle, it's pretty massive.
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>>152268527
>Princess Tutu
>Dies irae
How do they relate in any way?
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>>152287230
Who cares, Dies Irae without gore or porn is the same as the censored version of Baldr Sky; pure shit.
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>>152267492
Why did jap otakus call it 怒りの日? Was it that bad?
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>>152287545
>>152287971
>>152288187
Round and 'round she goes!
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>>152288407
This is what grief does to people
Poor JOP trying to reconcile with their wasted time lol
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Whoa there, Soushichi, I think you should go see a doctor.
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>>152287171
How long does it usually take for it to release once all translation and editing is done?
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>>152272283
>>152272575
>learning Japanese because you only want to play one game
Assuming you aren't falseflagging, are people actually that retarded? If you only want to play a few well known VNs or be in untranslated kamige sekrit club then don't bother learning another language. If being able to read a lot more VNs, reading translated VNs as they were originally written, or being able to play new VNs without waiting years for a translation don't sound appealing to you, I'm not sure why you ever started.
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>>152288720
Himawari has already been translated/edited and it's in beta testing by Frontwing, so it's really up to them.

They've had the complete TL now for awhile.
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>>152288916
It has nothing to do with frontwing.
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>>152276619
holy shit why do people blog like this on twitter
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>>152284256
Learning Japanese is a single thing in my life I don't regret.
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>>152288720
>>152288916
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>>152289028
He's autistic. I've never seen moogy or anyone else recommend books in order to understand VNs. wth I'm not reading those junks
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>>152289371
>wth I'm not reading those junks
Here we have the average Steam user that is going to play DI while not knowing what it's like at all.
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>>152284291
>tfw was born a cute lesbian
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>>152287607
The Iliad and steppenwolf are also not half as good in English, it's not just a Japanese to English thing. Prose is important and it is lost in translation. I have read a lot of English works in Japanese and it's not half as good as the original, catcher in the rye loses it's charm, Lovecraft losses its sense of madness and comic horror. don quixote is better also better in Spanish.

What is so hard about believing that someone's interpretation of a work of literature is always worse than the original. Only dead brained literal EOPs can't understand that. Ask anyone that knows a second or third language.
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>>152289495
As long as they buy it and don't refund it I don't really give a shit.
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>>152289649
t. JOP desperately trying to validate his wasted time learning a dead language whilst pretending to know other languages
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>>152289649
It's not that they don't understand, deep down they know it. They're just upset that they will NEVER experience the original and are shitposting to cope with it.
>>
Is the Flowers to Flowers torrent out? I don't want to use a DDL.
>>
https://wwe.twitter.com/jlist/status/766748582225580032
Peter Payne proving yet again that feet are superior
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>>152289649
Well I'd better learn all the languages in existence or only read things originally written in my native language. Thanks JOPsan, I've seen the light.
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What are the Nietzsche kamihon I should read in preparation for Dies Irae?
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>>152289649
One Hundred Years of Solitude?
The Bible?

There are two instances of translations being better than the original.
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>>152289780
Yep /vn/ always shit on adaptations, yet is blind to the fact that every translated vn is only a single persons adaptation of the work. Like looking on a beautiful painting via a warped and foggy glass window.
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>>152289649
I've always believed that it is at least theoretically possible for a translation to be better written than the original. I'm sure that's not the case for most VN translations if any though.
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>>152290613
>Like looking on a beautiful painting via a warped and foggy glass window.
Really makes you think.....
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well I just started watching the Grisaia anime.

I feel like I've made a huge mistake.
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>>152290728
You need a translator that is a better writer than the original. Most J to E vn translators are translating vns because they are the bottom of the barrel in terms of skill
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>>152290613
Could it not also be like looking at a pile of shit through a rose tinted window?
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>>152290728
It is, but usually in those cases the original is either a mess, or blandly written. Not the case for DI.

Hapymaher could be an example of translation > original, but then again the game is just awful either way so it doesn't really matter.
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>>152290945
Dropped it in the first episode. The color looks washed out.
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>>152290945
It rushed, but they fixed few things like Yukiko ending.
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>>152290995
That's why I said it's not the case for most VNs.
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>>152290995
h-hidoi
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>muh prose in my korean anime girl fucking powerpoints
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>>152291305
It's just true anon. No one wants to translate cartoon porn games for 20k a year. When you can make 6 figures a year with a law minor translating international business law.
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>>152291102
Yukiko's route was retarded in the VN but the anime somehow makes it even worse, I instantly dropped it after that.
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>>152289649
>I know English, Spanish, German, Japanese, and ancient Greek
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>>152291505
Some people, gasp, don't really care about money as long as it's enough for a roof and food.
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>>152286461
They're seriously translating this one? The madmens
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>>152291505
Yeah, if you know Chinese maybe.

Conj translates VNs because it's passion. Not to mention he graduated at the top of his class in a high-tier Japanese university. He could have any job he wants, I don't think he cares about money.
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>>152291587
t. poorfag who lives in some rickety shack
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>>152291430
>mollusks
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Spanish prose is actually superior to everything else.
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>>152291430
>anime girl fucking powerpoints
>anime girl fucking
>he doesn't know

H-How do we break it to him? Anon I....
There is no porn in the English version anon...
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Is the prose in Japanese VNs really so good that I should drop my other hobbies and start up on Japanese and read untranslated titles when I reach a high enough level of proficiency?
Is it better than Nabokov at least?
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>>152290530
Thus Spoke Zarathustra and Beyond Good and Evil.

really though, you don't need to read Nietzsche to understand it. most of the philosophy present in DI stands perfectly fine on its own. of course, knowing the influences makes it easier to appreciate, but it isn't necessary. not to mention Nietzsche philosophy has crept into so many other forms of media, that you're probably already somewhat familiar with the basics unless you've been living under a rock.

Nietzsche was mostly influenced by Schopenhauer and Wagner, and the latter wrote Operas, for example. Siegfried is basically where Nietzsche stole the idea of Übermensch from. Most of the philosophy in DI is entirely contained within Der Ring des Nibelungen.
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>>152291584
Hi, monolingual fag. Anyone who doesn't speak at least two languages should leave imo
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>>152291915
I mean... not really. There's some really good Japanese authors in general, some of whom write VNs (Ou Jackson), but VNs themselves aren't generally remarkably well written. It's English VN translations that tend to be poor.
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>>152291915
No. It's basically a shittier version of Chinese.
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>>152291915
Some are very good, like DI, yes. Translations always pretty much downgrade the experience significantly.
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Where have you been?
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>>152289649
Whatever you say, ElitistAnon.
But seriously, the way you word it on your post, bait or not, you try to make it sound like that all english translations are inferior to the original language, which makes te translation nearly worthless.
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>>152291915
Yes there are elements in Japanese speech that just sound better in Japanese. You don't need to learn Japanese, you just need to demand better translations. The Devotion of Suspect X was expertly translated.
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>>152291870
>spanish prose is the best
>gabriel garcía márquez thought the english translation of Cien años de soledad was better

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>>152292603
PR talk.
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>>152292369
Sounds like you can't read English, which is worrying for an eop.
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>>152287545
Didn't read other two, but I imagine Island still being really good in English, unless the translation is complete trash.
It will lose some of the humor in the translation, though, but that's an inevitability all EOPs have to live with.
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>>152292369
He's just saying the original work is usually better (unless the translator is amazing), seemingly as a justification for being a snob about reading the original, which it isn't. Even if you think he's right, a translation that's not quite as good as the original is much preferable to no translation at all.
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>>152293208
>Even if you think he's right, a translation that's not quite as good as the original is much preferable to no translation at all.

That's pleb think.
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>>152294019
You aren't a true patrician until you speak at least 30 languages.
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>>152291915
Good news is that you don't necessarily have to drop any hobbies or wait until you're proficient to read VNs how the fuck people expect to reach proficiency without reading anyway? God damn

>Is it better than Nabokov at least?
I hate Nabokov so I'd say yes, but that's very subjective as I don't really understand all this literature wankery going out about prose and shit.
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>Someone who knows multiple languages reads a work in both and claims that the original is better.
>Someone who only knows one language / has not read works in multiple languages claims above person to be trying to defend themselves for learning a language implying it was a waste of time.

nice inferiority complex.

If people say they enjoy something in X language better or that a translation doesn't capture the original as well, it's a fair and valid opinion. If you want to disagree, you'll actually have to be able to do read both before making any judgements.

Of course we can't expect mad and jealous EOPs to do that of course.
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If there are so many fucking JOPs then fuck back to your /jp/ thread, I'm sick of this shitpost war.
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