/shmupg/ Shooting Game General

shooting gay...... never die..........

>>152197778
RIP

I'm sorry mistress Casper

Sorry, it's TWO FUCKING AM. I should've be sleeping right now.

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>>152198234
It's too late. Just look at that face. She's pissed.

Hello page 10 my old friend

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Reco will do sexual favors in exchange for more thread activity. First come first cum

I guess we should let shmupg rest for a while...

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>>152206195
We really are struggling lately. But, I'll be so bored if this place isn't around for me to vent my obsession!

>>152204331
Reco is pure
PURE

>>152208209
Pure pleasure.

the feeling of trying to beat your own odl score that had mistakes and was established in no time, and failing to come even close

what's wrong with cave PC ports?

honest question

>>152210898
input lag and DRM

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>>152210898
Far as I can tell, it's a problem of inaccurate slowdown and some bugs that never bothered getting fixed. For example, I think I heard that the ports crash if you have more than 100 friends on your Steam friends list.

>>152211468
lol what the fuck

Anyone played Castle Shikigami 2? Just credit fed through it for the first time today and I have to say the English Translation is one of the best I've heard.

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>>152211852
I dunno.

>>152211865
Give Trouble Witches Neo a try.

>>152211949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDORuIwmR-U
As good as this?

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>>152197778
This quote makes me super depressed, it's just not fair that shmups are on the brink of death while "cinematic" games, mobage, and other instant-gratification trash is constantly growing in popularity.

>>152212361
more 2d porn to fap to 2bh

>>152212361
It's up to us to keep stg alive!

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>>152212361
i think, considering the nature of these games and the community surrounding it that it's not going to die anytime soon.

>>152212793
Who actually buys those in green for home sticks?

MON lucky charm?

>>152213060
i bought the hrap4 vx-sa off ebay for 60$ and it came with the green buttons. i added the ls-32 and green ball top. i like the look.

>>152212361
shmups are for instant gratification bro

>>152212361
>difficult, repetitive, typically <1 hr of "content" in the eyes of the layman, usually costs around $20.00, requires effort to master, not popular (your friends don't play)
yeah, why is it dead in the west?

>>152213435
That's the real arcade look, 1P side. It's good.

>>152215551
but my friends do play... we get together on weekends and 2p futari maniac and shikigami no shiro 3

Continue?

How's that 1cc/scoring run going /shmupg/?

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>>152221270
Not too well. I've been trying to practice DSMBL 999 but I'm not doing so good. Casper's been taking a vicious pounding here.

Level 999 Whispy Woods seems, like, super hard. Maybe there's some sorta trick to him...

>>152221270
slowly

>>152221270
not very well. i can't find the motivation to do it the past week after i had a fantastic run ruined by interruption. i try but get angry after a couple runs and give up. i need a couple days off work to get my head back in the game.

>>152221270
Not good. Haven't played in a week.

>>152221270
Maybe a couple hundred more hours of practice and I can start runs that can actually get something "decent".

>>152211468
>the ports crash if you have more than 100 friends on your Steam friends list.
can confirm this, but the crash only happens if you sort the scores by friends.

>>152221452
If you stream you'll surely make progress!

>>152223253
you're a pretty cool guy.

>>152223585
t-thanks

anyone having problems with overconfidence? I keep seeing and casually aiming for gaps that, while legitimate, are actually stupidly difficult to pass through. this shit has been killing my consistency ever since it started, and all i keep thinking about is "it's gonna look good on the replay"

>>152223812
>"it's gonna look good on the replay"
it won't

>TAC: Good players don’t do a lot of dodging. It might look like they are, though.

>Haneda: That’s because dodging bullets means you’re in a dangerous situation, right?

>TAC: That’s right. There’s been times when I’ve seen someone doing some amazing dodges, and from my perspective I think, “Ah, this person isn’t very good.” (laughs)

>>152223812
>it's gonna look good on the replay
It's always the opposite with me.
>oh shit that looked really fucking stupid I hope this run falls through because I don't want anyone to know how dumb that was

>>152223812
Who cares about the replay?
Try playing without recording yourself until you get consistent.

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>>152223253
>There’s been times when I’ve seen someone doing some amazing dodges, and from my perspective I think, “Ah, this person isn’t very good.” (laughs)
Sh-shit, he's on to me!

>>152224538
link please

>>152226281
Do you know how google works?

>>152226432
i didn't noticed the very first result for some reason.

>>152221270
pretty good, more or less

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsO7UnuOw-I
>5 minute cutscenes with nothing but talking
lmao nice one cave

>>152224538
>>152224804
sadpepe.jpg

>>152224884
will do, I get a bit narcissistic with the replays

This general will not die until you achieve something.

>>152229234
We'll be waiting a while then.

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Keep this thread alive! Do it for Rosa!

>>152229772
No

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>>152230186
... Do it for Rosalie?

>>152230628
I want to be that watermelon...

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>>152230917
B-But she's... eating it... like, as food...

>>152211468
Tetris Ultimate by Ubisoft did that. Imagine being so bad at porting games you fuck up Tetris

Doesn't make sense for a shmup since I think I have one friend on my friends list who plays them but that's a funny bug

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>>152231180
I often make uneducated guesses, and my uneducated guess on this matter is that the Xbox 360 ports were never programmed to show leaderboards with 100+ friends on it (because Xbox Live doesn't let you have that many friends) and when the game was ported over, they just left it like that, so when you try to view the leaderboard with 100+ friends it just trainwrecks.

Personally I'm more miffed about how, just after the announcement of the Deathsmiles Steam port, they were considering ways to make the Steam version a better value since so many people already owned it on 360 worldwide. Miffed because they wound up not doing jack shit with that idea and just wound up with a plain port of the 360 port.

>>152231554
That's a shame, but it's understandable since a lot of Japanese developers just don't work with PC games and ports. Look at the first Dark Souls when that released, with its 1024*600 resolution and forced 30fps.

Maybe it's just porting.

>>152227168
I love 360 mode!

>break mode
is it break as in "taking a break" or as in "i'll break your face"?

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>>152232373
I think it's "Break" as in "Limit Break".

>>152232373
Break as in GIGA DRILL BREAKER

>>152213060
>Who actually buys those in green for home sticks?
My custom stick had green buttons and stick nob.

>>152211865
>Anyone played Castle Shikigami 2?
Yup i played it alot, it and 3 are seriously underated imo. 3 has some great interesting suicide strats aswell.

>>152221270
>How's that 1cc/scoring run going /shmupg/?
Pretty good desu after months of trying to get 50+ mill in guwange blue i got 2 runs with different characters, now the room for error is tighter.

>>152212361
>it's just not fair that shmups are on the brink of death while "cinematic" games, mobage, and other instant-gratification trash is constantly growing in popularity.
It's more a sign of the times than any kind of message about the genre, western culture breeds laziness, aversion to dedication, absence of desire/understanding for long term achievement and seeks to alienate those who do have long term focus for a single activity. In the 90s everyone who tried hard or did anything was called "nerd" as a derogative and now the new word is "autist/autism" which is almost always used in a passive aggressive sense to validate the person using it and an insults laziness and failure to achieve anything and alienate those whom do to make himself feel better. Once upon a time we celebrated the strong and gifted now we demonize them give medals to everybody and celebrate the weak/self proclaimed victims thus why the west is in its infancy of demise.

CCWI players, favourite ship and why

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>>152234075
Type-I because it's the only one I've tried!

I want to like CCWI, but theres just too much shit on the screen

>>152234495
You'll get used to it

>>152234075
Type I, because it looks the best, is not too fast, and has these cool Ikaruga/Rayforce type homing lasers.

>>152234495
Arcade Original isn't even that bullet hellish, compared to other games. You also got a lot of fire power yourself.

>>152239497
is it me, or modern shmoops look really low-budget in comparison to 90s shooms.

>>152234075
Type-I at the moment.

>>152240528
Modern shmups are mostly indie games, of course they have lower budgets.

>>152240602
Oh, and I like it because it controls just right, compared to other ships.

>>152234075
Type-II, it has the right speed for me.

>>152234075
Type Z ofc

>>152221270
I'm an alcoholic and can't get any meaningful practice.
Can only 1cc Touhou normals

>>152242961
I haven't unlocked TypeZ yet, you get it for total Burst time in a particular mode right? What's the gimmick?

acho is streaming giga wing. www.twitch tv/neoam_acho

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1cc maybe some day

>>152234075
Type-Z'

>>152244295
you are very close, i'm 100% sure you can make it.

>>152244295
That bosses stomping stage is total BS desu

>>152244295
What mode?

>>152243307
I think you unlock it after getting a certain number of stars cumulatively. It's the strongest ship.

>>152244432
upper left corner
>>152244397
i'm not there in arcade yet, but it novice that stage was much easier with type iii.

>>152243371
>gaijin not allowed to chat

>>152244541
Oh man I just looked at your score
Makes me wanna play E4 again. I love huge numbers like that in games

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>>152243371
someone playing worse than i

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>>152244295
>get it just about that low in the original game
>continue, drop my hands disappointed as he explodes
>TLB theme starts up

Is there any shmup which plays similar to CCWI when playing for score? I can't remember any shmup which uses this kind of time-kill multiplier.

>>152247274
Well, ok, except Rayforce maybe, but that doesn't really require you to time-kill enemies, afaik.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3OjSDMM3o
it's here

>>152247274
Lockon timer was lifted from Ketsui. Go nuts.

>>152247456
>more YGW
lmao

>>152247462
Ketsui doesn't require you to time-kill enemies with any lock-on.

>>152247584
That's mostly false. Ketsui scoring at its most basic is getting a 5 chip, then using your lock-on shot so enemies drop a lot of 5 chips when you kill them. It doesn't have the Rayforce/Soukyuugurentai missiles though.

>>152247932
Yes, so it's basically the other way around. In CCWI, you first use your lock-on for the multiplier, then proceed with the shot. In Ketsui it's shot first, then lock-on.

It's completely different.

>>152221452
He's a dickhead on Level 3 never mind 999, I would just bomb through his harder to dodge patterns

The new Special Demonstration is up !
https://youtu.be/dP3OjSDMM3o

The new, way less bothersome, way of scoring Axebeak is neat.

>>152247274
CC scoring mechanics are a mix between Ketsui and DDP Daioujou, with the lock from Soukyugurentai

>>152248379
What should you be using Bombs for on games that have them, like huge Deathsmiles as an example

>>152232751
>we celebrated the strong and gifted
the gifted were always silently hated though

>>152249254
You probably shouldn't use too many bombs in DS because you'll need them for Tyrannosatan, but I'd recommend using one for when Tree Guy throws those purple arrows at you, they're very hard to dodge

>>152248408
>The new Special Demonstration is up !
>45 mins of endless suicides and bombs

No thanks.

>>152249764
Right so is it best to save them fit specific scenarios? Is it sort of a hangover of quarter-eating arcade games where if you waste bombs on easy parts you won't have them when you specifically need them?

>>152249994
Is there a better proof of love to your chain than giving up your (extra) life for it ?

>>152250108
You don't literally NEED them for anything, but Tyrannosatan is significantly harder than any of the other bosses so you probably want to keep some bombs for him

>>152250241
Alright, I'm guessing other games it differs based on mechanics, or is it a good general rule for shmups

>>152250506
A common way to start routing a clear is determining the amount of resource you need to defeat the last boss so that you can play with a clear idea of how many misses you're allowed to do.

>>152248543
Why should it be similar to Ketsui?

Huh, maybe taking a bath will set me in the mood for more bullets.

Does House of the Dead count as a shmup?

Wanted to ask if anyone knew any similar games with the cheesy dialogue, a parody of everything, (un)intentionally funny (?), fake sense of urgency for the sake of it, ridiculous scenarios and situations, over-the-top action, silly enemies, feeling like the game is pulling asspull after asspull just to kill you and waste your credits, harder than Dante must die, hundreds of enemies on screen, HARDCORE, etc.

Overkill sucks ass unfortunately

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>died died died

>>152252543
It's a lightgun rail shooter, not really the same thing.
Coin-eating difficulty is just a fact of arcade games.

>>152250980
just play it and you'll understand

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>>152253064
>dying at the start of a stage

>>152253615
I already played it. The only thing which makes it similar is the point-blanking and having a multiplier, but this is pretty common.

>>152253268
Well, there's no light gun rail shooter thread, so this is the closest thing. Wikipedia lists HotD as a Shoot'Em Up also

>>152252543
Steel gunner is pretty cool and so is Operation Wolf. Though these are not as ridiculous but there are still some funny moments.
>>152253268
>Coin-eating difficulty is just a fact of arcade games.
that's true, but STGs are the least unfair(and yet the most difficult) breed of arcade game, since you can(in theory) evade all the damage.

>>152211468
>inaccurate
or in the case of deathsmiles, absent

>>152256590
I never really understood why slowdown is so important for SHMUPs, despite what it does

>>152258207
Slowdown = shitload of bullets lagging the game so you can actually get through it.
Removed slowdown = shitload of bullets moving normally and you die or bomb through it

It's not complicated. Games where it happens usually don't have many extends either, and routes get fucked because you have to account for something that used to be manageable becoming impossible.

>>152221270
it's going pretty smooth i guess, i've almost beaten the second boss of ccwi arcade original without dying, been playing this mode for 2 hours so far.

emergency bump - last thread in the catalog

>>152262824
nice bomb!

>>152262824
thx bb

>>152258207
>I never really understood why slowdown is so important for SHMUPs
It's ok. CAVE and Degica don't seen to understand either. If they don't, how can anyone expect you to?

>>152262824
We are destined for failure and obscurity

I might play Jamestown when I get home but I hate stage 2 so much

>>152264954
isn't jamestown some co-op shit, or does the difficulty change depending on the number of players?

>>152266293
I have never ever played it co-op because I think it's local only and none of my friends like shmups.

It's a nice solo game though i would recommend it for the ship diversity

STG Weekly this sunday.

It's 2hu

>>152264954
What difficult?

>>152254293
>the only thing

well that's the first step of the scoring
the second one being optimizing your break use (=straight from DOJ)

add some milking on bosses and that's it
also Ketsui chip counters and CCWI break count are similar on several degress

so yeah, basically half of the scoring mechanics come from Ketsui

>>152266805
there are so much 2hufags everywhere, it must be nice having all those people ready to cheer you up.

>>152266805
into the trash it goesho

>>152266805
Why even bother doing it if it isn't going to be a shmup?

>>152266815
I think I got up to Divine? Been ages since I played but I remember liking it a lot.

>>152266293
It's perfectly playable solo.

>>152267108
>well that's the first step of the scoring
Yes, but it's something many games have.

>basically half of the scoring mechanics come from Ketsui
No, the game is much more similar to Rayforce, since you constantly have to "aim" with your lock-ons. Ketsui doesn't have this. The lock-on in Ketsui is completely different.

>>152268157
>>152267586
>>152267369
Do people hate 2hu here for some reason?

>>152268969
4chan hates everything which is too popular for them.

>>152268969
Yes and no. I personally don't, but I won't deny they're pretty low tier shmups.

https://twitter.com/STGWeekly/status/766686278297460737
lads

>>152268886
You just missed the point.
I never spoke about Ketsui's lock but whatever.

CCWI core scoring mechanics is simmilar to Ketsui pointblank + mini chaining. CC just replace pointblanking by Soukyugurentai webshot (and not Rayforce's lol)
Then add DOJ hyper system and that's CC scoring for you.

If you don't get this, you probably play those games superficially and I'm loosing my time with you.

Go play those games again and score them this time you scrub.

>>152268969
Hate? No. They're pretty bad but maybe they will make shmups more popular in the west.

>>152270929
(i know my english is terrible but whatever. I dont even know why this guy's arguing about a game he obviously played like 5 minutes)

>>152268969
Too slow for me personally, I do get the appeal though and have no problem with people like it.

>>152268886
forgot this :
> since you constantly have to "aim" with your lock-ons
lmao if think that's how scoring works in CC

>>152271485
*you

(I'm tired)

>>152268969
>hate
naw
2hu is as mediocre as it gets

>>152268969
PCB is a fucking awesome game, so I'm happy they are having an episode about it.

>>152271857
>fucking awesome game
The WR run makes it look atrocious

>>152268969
Yeah, I have a love-hate relationship with it.
I can't stand playing the games for very long, but the universe itself is imprinted in my brain.

>>152272120
Same here desu

>>152270929
>pointblank + mini chaining
There are many games with point blank, and also many games with hard capped chaining. And the point-blanking in CCWI also doesn't even work together with the chaining. It's there to build up your break metre, not to build up your multiplier like in Ketsui.

>>152271485
I'm pretty sure I have more idea about CCWI scoring than you do. The main skill you have to master in this game to score well, is not to point-blank, or whatever, it is to being able to use your lock-on correctly, ie. time-killing bigger enemies with it, and getting as many enemies locked-on before you release as possible.

This is completely different than Ketsui.

>>152271020
>maybe they will make shmups more popular in the west.
i don't thnk toehoe raises awareness about shmups, for a long time i though that toehoe is the only game where you have to dodge bunch of bullets there is. i got interested in shmups becouse i got interested in retro gaming. but maybe that's just me.

>/shmupg/ is back to being somewhat alive
Feels good, man.

>>152272120
In other words you are secondary who merely wants to fuq toehoes.

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>>152273906
No, I'm a secondary who wants quality shooting instead.

Touhou is boring, is just bullets. Look at dodonpachi, game full of action.

>>152255846
>but STGs are the least unfair
not really, it's probably the genre that requires the most rote memorization for a simple 1cc, while you can clear games in other genres with basic undestanding of the mechanics and intuition. There are exceptions tho

>since you can(in theory) evade all the damage.
Doesn't apply to all games, just the most polished ones.

PCB owns bitch

>>152284209
PCBs do own. They're the only form of valid play.

>>152280606
>it's probably the genre that requires the most rote memorization for a simple 1cc
I'm not sure I can agree with that I mean take ghouls n ghosts for example a game with far more unescapable deaths than most modern shmups which generally speaking have a lot of room for freestyle and intuition/ luck dodges. Older shmups however tend to have exactly as you say rightway or the highway approach, Raiden 2 is a good example.

>>152204331

t-this is my fetish...

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https://twitter.com/STGWeekly/status/760203066628911105

Should I apply?
I'm tired of translating degenerate doujinshi.

If I had a Rosa, so help me god, I would visit such unholiness upon her anus that you would never shit again out of sheer sympathy. As I took great handfuls of her peachy white cheeks in my hands, Satan himself would begin to weep with joy. He knows that the sin I am about to commit will damn every soul in existance, that the profane, wet noises alone will stain the universe with its echoes, that the signt of my face buried in her will scorch the eyes of god himself. As I begin to tongue and lick

>>152221270
I'm deciding what game to do, actually waiting for DFK on steam

>>152286775
I dont see why not, if you're feeling up to it might as well.

>>152288067
>actually waiting for DFK on steam
Oh boy the disappointment will be top tier. Play a really shit game from now til then to make it seem better.

>>152288786
Ok, I'll play Ikaruga.

>>152288786
Why be like this

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>>152288786
why? the only thing I expect is arranged soundtracks, the sprites and a somewhat playable port.

Playing mushi and having fun

>>152288990
>Why be like this
Honest? Because why lie? DFK is caves most meh entry.

>>152289067
>and a somewhat playable port.
Well let's not get carried away now.

>>152288846
keked

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Okay

Favorite game:
Favorite shot type in said game:
Favorite Soundtrack:
Favorite old shooter:
Favorite recent shooter:
Game that you despise:
Guilty Pleasure:
First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:

>>152289564
>keked

Oh thats why.

>>152285550
Ghouls 'n Ghosts was one of my first clear and i consider it a pretty fair game overall, you can see way more 1LC of Ghouls 'n Ghosts on youtube than say, Garegga. Most of the "RNG" stuff can be manipulated with enough knowledge of the game.

>>152289828
But we are talking about clueless play so none of your points are relevant. OBVIOUSLY with enough knowledge of a game you knwo whats coming that's the most master of obvious statement i've ever heard.


>>152289668
cuck

>>152289575

>Favorite game:

Mushi Futari

>Favorite shot type in said game:

The second one

>Favorite Soundtrack:

Ketsui Console ver
.
>Favorite old shooter:

Raiden

>Favorite recent shooter:

CCWI

>Game that you despise: -
>Guilty Pleasure: -

>First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:

Crimzon Clover, I'm new to the genre so I wanna start with something new.

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>>152289575
>Favorite game:
fallout

>>152289575
>Favorite game:
Hitogata Happa

>Favorite shot type in said game:
Clover

>Favorite Soundtrack:
eXceed 2nd - Vampire REX

>Favorite old shooter:
Gunbird

>Favorite recent shooter:
CCWI

>Game that you despise:
-

>Guilty Pleasure:
-

>First game 1cc'd:
2hu LLS

>>152289575
>Favorite game:
guwange
>Favorite shot type in said game:
whichever gets the most coinc at any given time.
>Favorite Soundtrack:
karous
>Favorite old shooter:
gradius 2
>Favorite recent shooter:
dunno
>Game that you despise:
raiden
>Guilty Pleasure:
nein
>First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:
honestly can't remember but possibly karous or some doujin like bwr..

>>152289575
>Favorite game
DaiOuJou
>Favorite shot type in said game
A-Ex
>Favorite soundtrack
Ketsui
>Favorite old shooter
Gradius
>Favorite recent shooter
Crimzon Clover
>Game that you despise
Nothing, really.
>Guilty pleasure
Ikaruga
>First game 1cced
Touhou Eiyashou

>>152290173
>But we are talking about clueless play so none of your points are relevant
I 1cc'd Ghouls 'n Ghosts cluelless with ease, no need for guides or anything, meanwhile for Garegga i needed to learn a lot of obscure shit to even 1cc the damn thing, to 1cc Ghouls 'n Ghosts you need very little research compared to many shmups, it's a very intuitive game.

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Gothic wa Mahou Otome is having a consecutive login bonus this week that seems to be shitting out gems like crazy. Login today for 35 free gems, and login every day to keep getting more.

Great way to recoup gems after exhausting them on the Deathsmiles gacha!

>>152248379
On level 3 he has a lot of simple dodges and a safe spot on his entire final pattern though. Watch one of my highlight videos on twitch/HarryKoakuma if you wanna see how I do it. The only thing I can't speak for is that phase with the yellow apples because Casper usually kills him before that.

Those simple dodges are the reason I think he might have some trick I'm not seeing on 999 too.

>>152249254
Just where ever you have trouble I guess. One thing to note about Deathsmiles though is to never bomb during the Jitterbug fight. He drops a 2 life up cake if you beat him without bombing (even if you get hit) so it's pretty much never worth bombing him.

>>152287416
Well that sounds fun. This is pasta though, right? It looks familiar but I haven't seen it in a really long time if so.

>>152204331
DELETE THIS!

RECO IS NOT FOR LEWD

>>152289575
>Favorite game:
CRS
>Favorite shot type in said game:
N/A
>Favorite Soundtrack:
G Darius
>Favorite old shooter:
R-Type
>Favorite recent shooter:
Raiden IV
>Game that you despise:
Psyvariar kinda. I mean I think it's cool but the wobble mechanic just isn't for me.
>Guilty Pleasure:
Mecha Ritz
>First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:
Deathsmiles

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Fuck yea, finally managed to implement a multiplier. Even with a hard cap!

Any ideas for cool multiplier systems? Perhaps something which hasn't been done before?

>>152289575
>Favorite game:
Eschatos
>Favorite shot type in said game:
LOL!
>Favorite Soundtrack:
Eschatos
>Favorite old shooter:
JSS
>Favorite recent shooter:
Is Eschatos recent enough?
>Game that you despise:
all 2hu
>Guilty Pleasure:
2hu
>First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:
Eschatos

>>152294808
The multiplier goes up when enemies leave the screen from the left side (so you must not kill them to raise it) and goes down when you bank it by killing enemies. That's the first idea I had, take it as a draft.
Obviously, the game needs to be designed around it.

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>>152294808
>those explosions

>>152294393
zuntata is the shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvO2EpfrM88

>>152295325
So you basically want a shooting game without shooting? I doubt this would find acceptance in the STG cult, but interesting idea.

>>152295442
Yea, I just noticed the first enemies still have the old explosions ripped from R-Type. Thanks for making me aware!

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>>152295318
I'm starting to think you like Eschatos

tfw no Wonder Witch doujins.

>>152295687
You shoot, but only the right targets. The multiplier might need to be capped to make this mechanic actually interesting.

>>152295545
They have a perfect mix of being avant garde and still pleasant to listen to. It's crazy.

>>152295687
>shooting game without shooting
ikaruga?

>>152296067
>You shoot, but only the right targets.
That's similar to what I planned. Except that you don't let the enemies get away, but have to switch between 2 shot types to kill 2 types of enemies, if you kill the right enemy with the right shot, your multiplier goes up, and if you kill the wrong enemy type, it resets. It would kinda similar to Ikaruga, except you don't have bullet absorption and don't have to kill 3 enemies of the same type in a row.

>The multiplier might need to be capped to make this mechanic actually interesting.
My multiplier is already capped.

shinu ga yoi

>>152296372
garegga

Why the fuck Darius burst is so expensive on steam

>>152295545
not even their best theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFjv6_p7qRE

>>152286445
What kind of fetish scenario would be nice for Reco, do you think?

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>tfw can't play shmups on my GANOO/LOONIX machine

>>152296472
>if you kill the right enemy with the right shot, your multiplier goes up, and if you kill the wrong enemy type, it resets.
Unless the multiplier cap is fairly low, it could end up being really punishing. What about something like this?
>Kill an enemy using the right shot: +0.1% multiplier
>Kill a large enemy using the right shot: +0.2% multiplier
>Kill an enemy using the wrong shot: -1.0% multiplier, then -1.5%, -2.0%, etc.
>Die: multiplier reset
Placeholder values, of course, but with a system like that one small mistake will cost you, but it won't completely fuck up your score like in DDP.

>>152299148
I can play them just fine on mine, maybe you should try harder.

>>152289575
>Favorite game:
Super C
>Favorite shot type in said game:
Spread
>Favorite Soundtrack:
Hotline Miami
>Favorite old shooter:
Mushihimesama
>Favorite recent shooter:
Strania
>Game that you despise:
Nuclear Throne
>Guilty Pleasure:
Lactation
>First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:
Metal Slug 3

>>152289575
>Favorite game:
akashicverse
>Favorite "shot" type in game
Jaunt driver
>Favorite OST
akashicverse? This is too hard to decide
>Favorite old shooter
What counts as old? Imperishable Night
>Favorite recent shooter
Crimzon Clover
>Game you despise
nothing. Garegga pisses me off I can't 1cc it in 100 years but it's still good
>Guilty pleasure
nothing
>First 1cc and want to 1cc
First was Perfect Cherry Blossom, and I want to 1cc any CAVE game, probably Esp.Ra.De or Galuda

>>152300226
>Lactation
Nice

>>152299810
>it won't completely fuck up your score like in DDP
My system wouldn't be like DDP, since I use a hard cap. The punishment would be more similar to Ikaruga.

Your system is interesting, but I try to keep it as simple as possible, so that players easily understand it.

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>>152300226
>>Guilty Pleasure:
>Lactation

>>152298686
tentacle

how do you guys get over slumps? i can't seem to pb on mushi for my life. now i'm dying on the first stage. seems i'm getting worse?

>>152301213
Start playing 12 hours per day.

>>152301365
so you play 12 hours a day to get over slumps?

>>152301213
Take a break

>>152300893
A little cliche, but I can't say I've written anything like that before. Might be interesting to try.

how shitty is sine mora? from 1 to 10

>>152298686
See >>152300226

>>152301213
Dying on easy parts means your brain is tired.

>>152301946
I can get on board with this.

>>152301884
10 shitty pianos out of 10

>>152301884
It's actually pretty good. The soundtrack is kinda boring, and some of its mechanics kinda suck, but it has solid gameplay and very good graphics and artstyle (except for the furry shit).

>>152301884
It's fucking shit.

>>152294808
>Any ideas for cool multiplier systems? Perhaps something which hasn't been done before?
I always imagined a gradius option system where no options = x5 score 1= x4, 2 = x3 ,3= x2 and 4 = x1 so the player is encouraged to take a no options difficult appraoch to the game with freedom to gain options and balance out risk reward.

>>152302883
This would make it pretty hard to balance the difficulty though.
If you could clear the game with no power-ups, then it might be way too easy to clear it fully powered up.

Having good firepower is also fun, while merely having pea shooter is kinda boring.

>>152303267
>This would make it pretty hard to balance the difficulty though.
Gradius gaiden managed it and so what if it is easy fully powered? So is black label futari original yet scoring is top tier hard as fuck thats the point of rewarding risky play with score. You have no imagination or design ability I predict a shit generic game coming.

This theme is super rad

https://youtu.be/s5AZJc-Ji7A

>>152301946
>>152302098
I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, but I would have no idea how to make that the subject of a story.

>>152303583
>You have no imagination or design ability I predict a shit generic game coming.
Lol why U so mad LMAO
Learn to take critiq fagethole

>>152303583
Your idea wasn't even that bad though. Maybe I'll use in an other game later.

>>152302098
>>152302581
>>152302692

I was thinking on buying it but it looks weird, artsy weird

>>152304206
>artsy weird
what does that even mean?

Anyway, if you like shooters like R-Type or Gradius, you will find the game most likely pretty solid.

>>152253642
What's worst, get hit by first bullet or bumped to the first enemy?

>>152305673
getting a reply from Cee

>>152303669
I can think of at least a hundred ways you could, but I won't list them here because that would be indecent.

>>152306854
Well the idea was to write a story that's explicitly sexual, if that narrows it down.

>>152307385
>Lactation

>>152289575
>Favorite game:
DFKBL

>Favorite shot type in said game:
C-S

>Favorite Soundtrack:
All CAVE

>Favorite old shooter:
Fire Shark

>Favorite recent shooter:
CCWI

>Game that you despise:
Euroshmups

>Guilty Pleasure:
CCWI

>First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:
Macross, I don't remember.

>>152307748
Still, the tentacle suggestion came first.

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>>152301213
I just stop playing for a little bit and try again the next day or something.

This general is tempting me to buy Deathsmiles

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>>152308659
It's a fun game. I love it.

>>152289575
>Favorite game:
Mushihimesama Futari
>Favorite shot type in said game:
Abnormal Palm
>Favorite Soundtrack:
Espgaluda or Batrider
>Favorite old shooter:
Twin Cobra
>Favorite recent shooter:
SDOJ
>Game that you despise:
i hate ikaruga only because the ship is so slow
>Guilty Pleasure:
2hu
>First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:
either deathsmiles with rosa or bwr

>>152289575
>favorite game
garegga
>favorite shot type
G bat or bornham
>Favorite soundtrack
this is tough but thunder force 5
>favorite old shooter
idk how old you mean but i guess i like gunfront
>guilty pleasure
post 2007 caveshit
>first 1cc
im not proud of it but mecha ritz
i want to 1cc mushi original in the forseeble future though

>>152289575
Favorite game: SDOJ
Favorite shot type in said game: C-Expert
Favorite Soundtrack: DFKBL
Favorite old shooter: Chorensha 68k?
Favorite recent shooter: Battle Traverse
Game that you despise: Daioh
Guilty Pleasure: Einhänder
First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc: Touhou IN Normal

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>>152312634
>SDOJ

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>>152308659
You should. It's good.

>>152313243
Would be better without the input lag desu senpai

>>152308659
How can you afford the PCB?

>>152319035
same

Lactating Reco fighting a tentacle monster!

>>152321132
Reco fighting her brother with no input lag!

>people still try and shill Mecha Shitz

>>152322969
>not shilling Battle Traverse
It's like you have no taste

>>152322969
The original is very fun, Steel Rondo not so much.

>>152289575
>Favorite game
Ninja Gaiden Black. Favorite shmup is Cho Ren Sha.

>Favorite shot type in said game
There's only one.

>Favorite Soundtrack
I have a really hard time choosing between Garegga and Crimzon Clover.

>Favorite old shooter
Cho Ren Sha again

>Favorite recent shooter
Muschi Futanari

>Game that you despise
Raptor: Call of the Shadows. Not big on euroshmups, or the way that game handles levels.

>Guilty Pleasure
None, I don't feel guilt over what I like nor should anybody else, though I do tease my friends that like popular e-sports games.

>First game 1cc'd
Aegis Wing, though there was a long gap between that and my second 1cc which was Mountain of Faith normal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEqsipZ4vdA

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>>152325185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk9Wg4Me49U
so.... this....... is the power........... of CAVE...................................

>>152325367
the deathsmiles imagesong is the best desu

click clack clack

>this triggers the arcadiafag

>>152294808
Late reply. Could make the multiplier kinda like a chaining system, and having a high multiplier also increases your damage. memethodical memesterpiece, because if you don't have a route to chain into the bosses then you'll have to deal with them longer.

Not exactly a mechanic to just toss in a game, however. I like the idea of using one weapon type to build the multiplier and another to cash it in.

>open stream
>streamer is not playing in a certified Japanese arcade
>close stream

>open stream
>streamer isn't Japanese
>close stream

Harry stream 999

>Mecha Shitz Brown Rondo

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>>152325407
It is. Though the Deathsmiles 2 image song kinda sucks.

>>152327330
I'm not home this weekend so I can't.

>>152328986
Dammit, what am I supposed to do now?

>>152329117
Stream yourself shmupping.

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>>152308659
>buy

anyone else degica is moving away from the daifukkatsu name and to resurrection? why would they do this? likely to avoid having a japanese sounding name, something unattractive to many western gamers.

>>152331305
When is Degica going to do the Shooting Love 20XX bundle like they said they would on the farm.

>>152331391
>Shooting Love 20XX
Are those games actually any good?

>>152331391
right after they fix the deatsmiles slowdown

>>152331991
>Are those games actually any good?
yup very underated imo.

>>152289575
>Favorite game:

DoDonPachi II Bee Storm

>Favorite shot type in said game:

Blue One with the mode that allows you to change between each types

>Favorite Soundtrack:

Crimzon Clover

>Favorite Old Shooter:

19XX: War Against Destiny

>Favorite recent shooter

Crimzon Clover

>Game that you despise

Armed Formation (F*** THIS GAME)

>Guilty Pleasure

Batsugun Special

>First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc:

Batsuguna nd Crimzon Clover Arcade are the one I want to 1CC.

>>152306409
I'm shmupgs tlb.

>>152334053
Tiny little baby?

>>152334296
is that a guwange reference? that baby is huge even for your mothers pudendum.

twitch tv/owarabi

Bananapachi

bomber

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what the fuck is the point of not giving you achievement for completing the game without using restarts in crimzon clover when the game is clearly unbeatable and rng ridden bullshitfest which you cant beat without spamming restarts every 20 seconds

this game is like lolk but with even worse restarting system and obviously made it so that enemies have different shooting patterns and different amounts of health each time you restart or start a new game so in other words its made it so that the rng fucks you in the ass 99% of the time. also this game is literally the epitome of anti-fun and more of a persons masterpiece of making player mad as fuck than actual game which would be fun to play

>>152345067
dtp pls go

>>152340438
Who is this guy? I might switch over in a bit but i'm watching matmouse for some dire risky futari original black label play.

>>152345067
Get cunted trouserspank you fanny.

>>152325803
>having a high multiplier also increases your damage
So similar to the weapon upgrading system from Radiant Silvergun you mean? Yea, that could be interesting.

>I like the idea of using one weapon type to build the multiplier and another to cash it in.
Me too, but that already has been done so often. I was thinking about having a charge shot to build up the multiplier, but then it would be so similar CCWI already.

It's really difficult to think stuff which hasn't been done before.

>>152345675
>It's really difficult to think stuff which hasn't been done before.
How about limited ammo that is replenished via grazing? It would force the player to be more precise and smart with routing.

>>152345821
I'm not a big fan of grazing, and I doubt my bullet patterns also will fit to it. It would have to be very bullet hellish for grazing, but I prefer more traditional patterns.

>>152346014
You would only need a lot of bullets if you're going by the touhou style '1 graze per bullet' rules.
You could have less bullets but you have to continually graze them by following their path. You could make it even more interesting by having more unusual trajectories to follow.

>>152346204
Instead of grazing, how about giving the player a short range charge weapon to suck energy from enemies so that your weapons become stronger and you also get more points?

This also would make the player graze.

Reco sucks

>>152347486
Get 1.01 patch, it fixes some input lag and adds replay feature.

>>152347907
i want steam version, but price
shmups for rich bitch

>>152348941
Just wait for a sale, it was around 2.00 in the Summer Sale.

What's so bad about Mecha Ritz: Steel Rondo (compared to the original anyways?)

>>152289575
Favorite game: Raiden Fighters 2
Favorite shot type in said game: Chaser 2000 lasers
Favorite Soundtrack: Kamui
Favorite old shooter: CRS68k
Favorite recent shooter: Strania
Game that you despise: Battle Bakraid
Guilty Pleasure: -
First game 1cc'd if not, first game you wanna 1cc: Crimzon Clover Novice

>>152348941
>but price
That's nothing, compared to DBCS.

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Do you agree that verticals are better than horis, especially for complex scoring systems? If yes, why?

bomb

>>152351373
eh

>>152350220
>What's so bad about Mecha Ritz: Steel Rondo
nothing. hating it is a meme.

>>152351373
meh

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>>152350220
There is exactly 1 thing that's bad about SR

a

>>152345067
>crimzon clover is an unbeatable rng ridden bullshitfest
>lots of people have beaten it
>it didnt even take them long
epic

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What's the best looking ship in Shumps?

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>>152360192

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>>152360192

>>152360887
>tfw you have to assemble and paint it by hand
Life isn't fair.

>>152360192
That thing looks sexy.

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what the fuck
why i losing my focus

Wow, I've been playing the first Gradius and after watching somewhere that you should refrain from getting too many powerups to keep the rank in control, the game just clicked for me, and I'm having a blast.
I've been wondering, do you figure stuff like that on your own? It felt kinda like cheating, finding out about it in a video

>>152362818
alcohol

>>152362831
It's pretty obvious that the bullets are faster when you've got loads of powerups

>>152362990
He should start composing music then.

>>152347805
Who sucks better: Reco or Rosa?

Streaming msicellaneous games for a bit today. Starting with KAMUI

www.twitch tv/troojg

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1205976#p1205976

>>152368536
>stg""""""""weekly"""""""""

>>152368536
>http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1205976#p1205976
>stgweekly
>"stg"
>2hu
>"weekly"
ayy lmao

>>152362818
Hold shift

.pmuB

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>>152374791

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Practicing MBL 999 makes me sad because Casper suffers so much.

>>152377385
How's the progress?

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I'm just a loser

>>152378038
you just got BUGGED

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>>152378038
Stay strong anon.

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>>152377867
Could be better, could be worse. For now I've given up on trying to figure out Whispy Woods and instead am focusing on just trying to clear all the stages in practice mode at least once. Swamp went okay. The stage portion is doable enough but Sakura is pretty hard to do without bombing so far.

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>>152378038

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>>152381727