/mbg/ - Mount & Blade General

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2qb66PbUg
reminder to rewatch this for the 10th time

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>>152116457
Ended up doing it anyway.
Like I said in he previous thread, will do a pastebin to clean the old video links.

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GOD'S
CHOSEN
PEOPLE

>>152116575
did you make the wfas pastebin?

>>152116457
how come the attackers don't just burn down the walls?
just wood

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>>152116575
>Ended up doing it anyway.
And I left the embeds in it.
Good thing sudoku doesn't exist in my culture
>>152116653
Don't recall writing anything about WFAS. I just changed the Bannerlord entry in the old pastebin to make the current one.
Reminder to self : put an entry in the pastebin for dickplomacy

>>152116575
I think all the bannerlord footage should be in the OP every thread until release

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>>152116457
>[Embed]

How come there's not many voices in battles aside from the grunts and screams? you would think there would be orders and alerts being shouted back and forth all over the place.

>>152116714
because fire would kill the famerate

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>>152116817
I know I know. I only I could hide my shame under one of these like that japanese dev

>>152116780
oh ok, trying to find the guy who made the WFAS formation pastebin because there's a few changes to make

>>152116457
>when you notice they aren't holding those spears but they're just floating a few inches from their backs
next gen

>>152116457
EXPENDABLE
IMPERIAL
LEVIES

I am actually okay with this. If anything it means more shields and tabards to display my livery on.

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>>152116457
Now that I see it I'm glad the devs heard us on making the different imperial factions troops a bit different from each others, we didn't see those golden/brass helmets on the southern empire troops.
You did well CaptainCrust.
That said, I'm going to sleep

>>152117091
if you're talking about moonhead you need to take that bottle of clorox and drink it all the way

>>152116929
i mean IRL you had a constant 30 fps so you didn't worry about this and they didn't use fire either for some reason?

>>152117634
The masque de fer story is more romantic, fuck you.

>>152116714
Why don't you think they just burned wooden forts instead of attacking them? You can't just walk up to the wall and start a fire, you know. Damp wood and those logs would also be hard to catch fire and when they did, it was pretty easy to put out.

>>152116585
I need a swadian merchant.

>>152117638
trying to burn down enemy fortification has always been a part of siege warfare IRL, like launching burning trebuchet projectiles. The times fire wasn't used it's probably because the fort would have been diserable to capture in good condition.

Can you guys tell me if I should be having fun in Napoleonic Wars ?

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I'm posting Atahualpa until we get a good Pre-Columbian Mesoamerica/Andes mod.

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>>152116585

>>152118602
Pre-Columbian is boring
Playing as the Spanish in early 1500s exploring a hostile land while extremely outnumbered but with navy/firearms/horses is the whole point. That old medieval 2 expansion had the right idea.

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1st for Jewish influence

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>>152119842
>Sultan Hakim
>her

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Rhodok genetics

Will the sequel to Caribbean !
be called Caribbean ¡! ?

>>152120297
looks more like a khergit my man

>>152120492
I shouldn't have chuckled at this, fuck you

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>>152116575
I swear I was gonna do it, not like I fell asleep in my desk or anything... Nah..

What does the "Rhodoks are subhuman" meme stem from?

>>152121259
They're calradian jews.

>>152121338
How so?

>>152121259
rhodoks are italian inspired
the maritime republics were the happy merchants of their day
like all jokes, this gets funnier and funnier the more it's repeated
and so, meme

>>152121810
Northern Italians are the jews of southern europe

Who else here is sad they're getting rid of the fetal alcohol syndrome faces in butterlord?

Oi armagan , armagan!
why do you need money?
how many sales do you think you´ll have?

no more turkish game made with sweden´s money

>>152122082
The facial animations seem pretty amusing so I'm happy about it.

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What went wrong?

>>152122496
Bad PR

Its actually a good game and has many improvements over vanilla warband

1. Formations
2. Banks and trade routes
3. uhm..

Ok so it has two improvements over vanilla warband. It has a lot of neat 'sidegrades' though like guns and more involved quests. I list these as sidegrades because im aware some people want no storyline and dislike how powerful guns tend to be in mount and blade at forcing you to cower behind troops and not ride around killing everyone.

Also it has poland which is cool. Largest cavalry charge in history you know. And szablas.

Hussars are really frigthening in that game since their lances are so fucking long, much more terrifying to be at the end of a hussar charge than swadian knights.

>>152122496
It was an upgrade over the base game, but mods had upgraded other things and players had gotten accustomed to the mods, so people thought it was shit.

>>152124479
I have another obvious one,
Guns

3 hours 30 to go for new gameplay footage

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>>152116467
Sorry about that. Added the texture to the Loose Files and the patch.

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>>152119609
That expansion was fun as fuck.

>>152121259
/v/ found out they were /mbg/'s favorite faction and adopted them as their own.

So naturally /mbg/ hates them now.

>>152127546
spotted the redditor

>>152128092
Nice try. I've never actually been there.

>>152128332
>tfw played more Witcher 3 but have more hours played on Warband

SO STREAM IN 1 HOUR AND A BIT!

>>152129280
where?

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>>152129358
gamestarde stream on twitch, confirmed by mountain blades facebook page. if you want to check that

>>152122496
it's literally a paid mod
>>152124652
not to mention most of the upgrades were added to warband, and the rest you could probably easily implement by now

>>152129454
>tfw staying up til 5:00am now
fugging taleworlds

Guys, my uncle works at Tale Worlds, he says Bannerlord will be released in the next kalpa!

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>>152129454
>>152129280
YES. TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO HEAR, FRANK.
R E L E A S E D A T E

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:)

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>>152129563
who /neet/ here

3:43 AM and counting, its worth it for mountain blade bonerlord ;_;

the stream just went live with some fags sitting in a room

>>152131185
>fags
say that to their face not online see what happens

Went to a Taleworlds demonstration last night.

Frank walked a group of us through the siege video now on youtube, we got to ask a couple of questions and got press kits with a Tshirt, wooden USB pen drive and stuff.

Overall it was pretty sweet, personal highlight of Gamescom for me (except maybe my own studio's booth).

My question was if the Sturgians are canonically the forebears of Vaegirs or Nords, since there's a lot of contention online.

Of course he immediately recognised I was from /mbg/ and laughed.

The official answer, which he actually has apparently stated a few times before, so I feel okay sharing it here- is basically: Both.

pls no more ebin viking memes


In more general news, no release date hints, no playable or anything like that, but as you can see from the new video it looks good.

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>finally managed to fix in my save the Geko bug that made Hyogonosuke a good natured lord and Yoshi the cunning one.

Finally, my autism can rest.

http://www.gamestar.de/themen/gamescom-2016,26/index.html

The stream should be embedded at the top

Since 4chan doesnt let me post the link to the stream itself

Starts in about 1h 30 min

>>152131291
What's your studio booth?

>>152129454
the chat is speaking german and the video is 5 guys in a room with no volume, is this the right channel?

>>152131675

Yes its a German magazine

>>152131675
yes, livestream is still a ways away from starting

>>152131114
>Every single other time these have happened I've had to go to bed because they're at like 3am in my timezone and I have work the next day
>It's only 5:55pm now

FUCK YES

>>152131756
look up gamestarde twitch

>>152131967
Is it odd that as I read that as gameretard first?

wow was he really on the phone with merkel??

>watchdogs 2
>dishonored 2

Weren't both of those games flops? They are getting sequels?

>>152132192
dishonored wasn´t a flop

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>>152132271
I got it mixed up with PIC RELATED.

>they know we are watching
>only 15 minutes
>new footage
>new

It is just going to be the SAME FUCKING VIDEO THAT WAS RELEASED YESTERDAY like E3 right?

>>152132392
That's not a game, that's a movie :^)

>>152132470
blame frank

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>>152132470
>We will never get video footage of Khuzaits dominating the world

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>>152132570
That looks comfy

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>>152132470
Frank really is like Todd Howard isn't he?

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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.

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>>152131291

They said the CEO of Taleworlds will also be present

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I'm posting The Humungus, The Lord Humungus, The Warrior of the Wasteland, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla until we get a good Post-Apocalypse mod.

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>>152132470
faggot

>>152133013
I hope I'm wrong but it is the same thing they did at E3.

Though I'm sure these guys don't know what they are talking about and said "new" by mistake.

>>152118312
If you're still here, learn to spin

In bayonet fighting there's only two directions to block, which means even the shittiest pleb has a 50% chance to block your attack if he's just spamming up and down. So to git gud in Napoleonic you should learn to get around them and stab them in such a way that the hit box of your bayonet is outside of their hit box for blocking entirely, or that they never get a chance to block.

t. Autist

>someone finally makes a WW1 game
>it is that

That might be the most disgusting game trailer I have ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB3jQHjEkCg

Supposedly, this is the interview where they mention the aging and heir mechanics. Any T*rks here who could translate?

>>152134145
>someone finally makes a WW1 game
What about Verdun

>>152134348
Oh never heard of that. Looks interesting.
Is it good?
Do people still play it?

>>152133284
>people STILL block left and right against bayonets in NW
christ alive

>>152134456
It has like 300 players on average I think. Enough to play it.
I like it, but the gameplay is a bit repetitive (because of the trench warfare setting).
If you look for videos on youtube you have to look at newer videos since there has been a huge update which added new/better animations and like 20 new weapons.

>>152134713
As long as I can use my 7.62×54r I'll be happy.

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>Firefighting Simulator

will bannerlord be cucked by for honor

>>152134960
?

>>152135082
Concerning the sales probably yes, but it will keep the normies away so it's a good thing.

>>152135097
It's what they were showing on the stream where Bannerlord's gonna be in like half an hour or so.

>titanfall 2

Wasn't that also a flop?
I haven't played it but all the guys at work, who are the demographic that game is for, hated it.

>>152135160
This time they´re making it about the single player (it has a gargantia/gentle giant mechsuit story) first one was MP only

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My domain really got powerful.

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It's even easier when the terrain helps.

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>When the enemy is trapped in a corridor.

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>>152135467
>>152135573
>go through all that trouble to make a mod to be what I want
>don't ever play it
Is GekoNewer good? That image makes me want to play it.

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just 20 more minutes

>>152135663
You're not allowed to play Warband anymore, cunt.

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>>152135698
It really is hard to play once you have started to mod because you feel the urge to change things as you go and end up spending all your time modding.

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>>152135659
The result is a pile of bodies.

>>152135663
I'm having fun. Guns make it a little too easy and it's something to be played over a long time as it can get boring since there's a few scenes that can repeat and the lack of true troop variety. But I'm having fun.
It's one of the most polished mods I ever played, definitively on my top 4.

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>Swadian lord comes into Rhodok territory
>Rhodok lord goes to attack him
>Jump in to help
>The numbers are roughly equal but Swadian lord has a lot of heavy cav
>Shouldn't be a problem, we're in mountainous territory
>The absolute fucking retard gets all of his men to hold at the BOTTOM of a massive hill

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I forgot how twitch chat is cancer, guess that's why I never bothered making an account.

>>152117202
No, don't stop it,
>cannot unsee

Are they gonna make Frank take a piece of the Jenga tower? oh god
praying for him

>>152136053
There is chat? I don't have any.

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>>152136112

>>152136165
>>152136112
Where's the stream

>>152136215
In Germany.

>>152121719
They are the best crossbows
Genoa, an Italian city state, famously had the best crossbow mercenaries although they were in teams of 3, loader firer and shield holder
Genoa like the other city states did lots of trading
Due to their connections Jews became the best merchants
And woilla Rhodoks are Jews

>>152136215
ctrl+F
stream

Get off you lazy ass.

>>152136262
Oh I had the right one after all
Weird

>>152136319
Yeah, it's about to start.

They sure are pushing this Dropzone game. What is it? ASSFAGGOTS with mechs?

>>152136371
What the fuck is this spess game I'm seeing right now?

T H R E E M I N U T E S

>battlefield one with submachine guns
I'll admit the cav is pretty cool but seriously fuck the smgs

>>152134960
>Firefighting simulator
There´s been some in the ps2 era

Oh shit Armagon really is there.

What if it's the old footage?

>LESSGO

oh god boys my dick is officially 100% nonflaccid

LIVESTREAM ONLINE

>LIVESTREAM ONLINE

LIVESTREAM ONLINE

>LIVESTREAM ONLINE

LIVESTREAM ONLINE

>LIVESTREAM ONLINE

That's a good interface for siege

>>152136576
it is it just is longer

Oh boy, get ready for another siege bideo!

the in-game year in the earlier footage was 1060
in this footage it's 1084

>ANOTHER SIEGE VIDEO

>sally out
>everyone is inside and the gate is closed

THEY ARE GOING TO RIDE OUT

>>152136651
I was disappointed with the siege defence video they showed before because it didn't show anything new, but this sallying out stuff is kind of a big deal.

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NEW FOOTAGE

YOU CAN DESTROY RAMS
YES
you can ride out too

>SALLYING OUT
>RAM GOT HACKED APART
>ENEMY RAISES AN ALARM AND SENDS FOR REINFORCEMENTS FROM THEIR CAMP
AHHHHHHHHHHHH HYP

>you can negotiate with the enemy while not being a king
While that sounds good, if my vassals do that I will be pissed

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>"it's just like civilization!"
FUCK OFF FAGGOT JOURNOS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>that camera angle during the parley
I wonder how that looks from attacker's side.

>>152136905
>Armagan's reaction when he said that

>>152136897
>having vassals

>>152136897
There's a limited amount they can do and it looks like they can only offer their own fiefs

>>152136931
>is civ the only game this fucking faggot has played

>>152136910
Someone better mod that reaction in

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>germans in charge of hosting a talk show

hey what the fuck this is the old video

>Frank said opening gates from defender's side was unneeded feature
>they actually implemented in
Holy shit, maybe we'll get spear upswings too?

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>ITS THE SAME FOOTAGE

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IT'S THE SAME FUCKING VIDEO
HE ACTUALLY FUCKING DID IT
FRANK WHAT THE FUCK RRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Really captures the desperation of the troops trying to get to the ladders

>>152137079
>>152137043
It looks like this is just the 'full' version of yesterday's.
We already got new stuff today

>>152137064
At the end of the day I'm sure frank has zero creative input.

>>152137064
I wonder if the attacker can counter a sally and take control of the siege and the gate because the enemy was too slow.
Also they didn't show waves of enemies yet.

>>152137064
>upswing
I believe we already have that. In the siege defense footage some of the empire troops were overhead swinging their spear down on to the battanians :^)

Where is this "same but longer" video?

Battanian scale is so gross

>>152137151
gamestarde on twitch
>>152137132
Oh shit, I meant upstab.

>>152137118
They did, you can see the enemy archers coming over the hill

>>152137117
Do we know how family, dynasties work, and are lords killable?

>>152137113
Yeah at least the sally stuff was cool, it's nice you can use cavalry to take out siege engines to stall them

>>152137231
>are lords killable?
I think so, watch the stream and look at the results screen
The enemy leader has a red skull next to him

>>152137231
>Do we know
People will tell you we do but we don't.

>it's the record for their stream

ALSO THAT FUCKING QUESTION
'HOW LONG YOU NEED OT PLAY TO BE THE KING OF THE WHOLE MAP'
WHAT
THE FUCK

>>152137348
It's casul gamers :^)

>how long to win the game
>in a sandbox game
Fucking stupid question. Why did they even read that one?

>co-op
Aw shit

FUCKING
CO-OPFAGS

Co-op confirmed.

>>152137203
>still streaming
>need to go to work
I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOUR JOURNALISM SHIT, FUCK YOUR COMMENTARY YOU HEAVILY-ACCENTED NERDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
thanks for the answer, though

Ah. fuck the stream, it lags, share if they tell anything important.

>>152137385
FUCK FAGGOTS
NIGGERS
ALL THESE USELESS QUESTIONS
WHAT A FUCKING WASTE

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>THAT WAS IT

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>Co-op
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>no release date
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCKING TW REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>not answering the actual questions
>le co-op
>le how long does it take to le conquer le map
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>NO RELEASE DATE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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NO RELEASE DATE.

>JENGAAA

No Release Date for Bannerlord Announced
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Asked about release date
>Earlier in the year Frank kept repeating that they hope to get it in player's hands this year
>This time he stays quiet and just gives the excuse of "we want it to be really good"

Bannerlord confirmed not in player's hands 2016.

At least Frank didn't have to give the "So what is Mount & Blade?" speech.

> no release
> no mechanics
So what we got out of it, sally out, rams destroyable?

>ASKING HOW LONG IT TAKES TO CONQUER THE MAP
>ASKING CO-OP SHIT WHEN THEY ALREADY ANSWERED THAT BEFORE
FUCKING FAGGOTS FUCK MIGHT AS WELL ASK THEM WHAT'S THEIR FAVORITE FOOD OR WHO THEY WOULD LIKE TO FUCK I MEAN AT LEAST IT WOULD BE NEW INFO

>>152137513
I would've snapped if it was that and just the same video from yesterday without the extra parts.

>>152137504
A-at least Dishonored 2 will tide me over.

>>152137385
>>152137428
>>152137472
Must suck having no friends that share your interests. But others are not as sad as you are.

Co-op question was actually great. Not the question itself, but the answer: they are indeed working on it.

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>OH WOW IT' FUCKING NOTHING A G A I N
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW.

>>152137602
He answered that before you fucking nigger, it was as useless as the map one.

Does this thing have re-wind or no?

I only say a flash of what Frank wrote on his wooden block but I could of swore it said "sup /mbg/". Maybe It is just 6am and I am seeing things

>>152137513
WILL THERE BE MODS!?

>>152137513
BUT HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO CONQUER THE MAP

>>152137539
Sally out
Destroyable rams
More info on the diploscreen and faction influence
Talking to your besiegers and asking for an audience
A peek at the town screen, implications are that you can build smithies and shit separately like in 1257AD
All in all not TOO terrible considering TW's track record with PR

>>152137602
He answered that like five times already ask a new question you worthless shit.

>>152137602
here we go

>>152137582
With those super awkward combat animations?

>>152137621
>>152137652
>He answered that before
Months ago. The fact that they're still unsure about the feature yet continue to work on it gives hope.

>>152137709
>months ago
4 months ago you fucking nigger, are you one of those childs that keep asking "are we there yet" when in the car? Jesus christ I'd rather know his favorite color than have him repeat the same shit.

>>152137539
Specifically all siege is destroyable from what he said as long as you're fast enough to do it without getting killed by the spearmen guarding it.

>>152137709
Kill yourself, there is no reason to believe stances would've changed. It was a waste of a perfectly good question slot that could've asked about town development, castle upgrades, more info on sieges, lord interactions or families, or anything else of the sort.

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>>152137652
>BUT HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO CONQUER THE MAP
I'm so fucking mad at that.

>>152137807
I guess it will also be destroyable during the siege attacks so manning those catapults/ballistas will be important.
Hope we can make this shit catch fire too though I doubt it, I still don't see the point of fire if shit can't burn.

>>152137807
>town development, castle upgrades
yess

>>152137893
Fire damage is a special damage type so you probably can, it's just harder because rams and towers are built to be fire resistant anyway.
It probably does massive damage to cloth-wearing troops, it's like a nuke that gets blocked by armor.

>>152137807
>there is no reason to believe development plans changed after almost half a year
Underage idiot.
>>152137782
>4 months ago
Do you even realize how long is 4 months in game development? This isn't Scam Shitizen, son.

>are you one of those childs that keep asking "are we there yet" when in the car
No, but you and these retards are:
>>152137539
>>152137497
>>152137482
>>152137472

>>152137963
people aren't easily flammable, neither are clothes, this is a meme just like fire arrows

>>152138000
Fuck off cocksucker, I asked what they showed on stream because I have not seen it all.

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That was dissapointing

>>152138000
>Do you even realize how long is 4 months in game development?
Nigger we don' t know how half of the shit work and he talked about it. Keeping asking for "muh co-op" when you could ask about ACTUAL game mechanics is a waste of time.
It's the reason you co-op fags are cancer in the MP world, instead of actually asking about the game you keep asking for the same shit over and over.

>>152138000
Hey, don't call me a retard. It's just banter, you underage idiot.

>>152138000
>Underage idiot.
We have received NO information about town and castle development during streams or after their respective dev diaries. Lord families, succession and death is a literal game changer either way but has not been touched upon. Lord interactions is supposed to be massively overhauled as is the barter screen. Why in the world should these questions be set aside for one answered four months ago in a vague fashion which implies they don't really want to answer it in a definitive fashion?

Co-op is not a relevant concern for core gameplay since co-op fags assure us it won't affect the singleplayer experience, and the question was already answered at any rate.

>>152138059
Fire pots are literally pots of flaming oil. Dip yourself in oil and throw a torch onto your clothes and see what happens.
>fire arrows are a meme
You do realize that Zhuge Liang was famous for using them right?

The fucking "journalists" only asked questions they could understand, the fucking faggots. Play the fucking video games before asking questions you retards.

>>152138228
BUT HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO CONQUER THE MAP?

>>152138059
Actually, people are strangely flammable despite being watery. Linen and cotton are also very flammable to the point that putting a lighter near it for two seconds can set a shirt on fire and peasant troops are probably wearing padded linen '''armor'''.

>surrender the town
>Sally Out
>Leave

They have three ways to poke your head out of a settlement, one of them letting you get away without fighting or giving them the town. Wat.

Why is that up to the player? Surely it's up to the opposing siege camp if you get to leave without surrender or fighting.

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>>152138228
>"how long does it take to win the game xdDDD"
still mad

>>152138273
Yeah 'leave' sounds kind of stupid I'm assuming it's not always the case though? The surrender the town thing sort of implies that just leaving will make them attack you.
Well I'm sure it'll be one of the first mods for 'historically accurate' overhauls.

>>152138273
Leave the conversation.

>>152138273
Well in Warband you can also leave the siege and get the fuck out of there without anyone stopping you most of the time. The surrender option should come up with a screen where the besieger agrees safe passage for their surrender, while "leave" should be dependent on how many troops the besieger has.

>>152138393
That doesn't sound right.

So can you barter prisoners,money and items while negotiating with the guy who is besieging your castle?

What are the odds this longer video will get reposted on Jewtube? I didn't get to see it.

>>152138108
>cocksucker
This site is 18+, go back preparing for another year of school.
>>152138151
>t.I have no friends because I'm a fat autistic loser
You poor baby.
What would you ask, anon? How many waifus can you marry? Is it possible to get "le cucked xD" by another lord? Other epic maymays, maybe?
>>152138184
>le singleplayer experience
You siege, you trade, you do the same shit over and over again. We all know the loop, they've touched on all things you've mentioned in blogs and demos, albeit quickly. You know why they didn't go in-depth on management part of the game? Because even TW knows no one but autists give a fuck about that. 90% of TW loop is built around combat, so they showcase combat. And co-op has been the most requested feature during whole time of development, unlike "revamped trading UI" that ten people give a shit about.
If they don't have cuckold management or some other useless shit you want to much, you'll be able to mod it in. Get over it, child.

all we got from gamescom was one video?

>>152138501
>being this mad and brain-damaged

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>>152138487
Highly likely.

>>152138480
Yeah. It looks like the 'surrender the town' is more of a fast barter than anything else, 'will you take the castle for a truce' shortcut.

>>152138501
Nice epic I like it. As expected, thread quality has declined dramatically.

>>152138535
This one was longer.

>>152138501
>everyone who would rather hear about actual game mechanics instead of having them repeat the same shit they answered inumerous time already doesn't have any friends
Nice projection.

Let's get your cancerfags arguments out of the way
>You don't need to balance it
>You don't need to change the game for it
>You don't need to do anything at all with the game
>It's just an option
>It will barely take any time or effort
>It will sell better
>Everything is better with friends
>But don't you have any friends?

>What would you ask, anon? How many waifus can you marry? Is it possible to get "le cucked xD" by another lord? Other epic maymays, maybe?
Jesus christ you are literally retarded.

>people respond to c-op-tard
You guys to realize he is pretending right? No fucking way he is actually serious.

Hide his posts and ignore him the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>152138487
You didn't lose anything.
Same footage from yesterday and your favorite stupid questions answered like: Is there co-op? And: How long does it take to best the game?
While the important question of when the game is gonna be released was left unanswered.

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>>152138552
>got called out
>u-u mad, b-bro?
Sometimes I forget how young nu4chan is.

not a fan of some of those death animations from the new video. give us 100% ragdoll

the guys he was shooting at the ladder kept dying in the same fashion

>>152138605
He lost sally out and the town overview screen as well as breakable rams and the options to negotiate with siegers
All in all it wasn't horrible.

>>152138598
>No fucking way he is actually serious.
We don't know that.

>>152138598
Nah lad, you clearly don't know anything about co-op fags. They are this brain damaged.

>>152138535
All we got from Gamescom was yesterday's video, but extended, and this T-shirt.

>>152138636
It looks like around 80% ragdoll
Anyway getting shot by an arrow isn't always ragdoll, it looked like he wasn't actually dead even when he fell over. I don't mind it that much.

>>152138659
>>152138672
Then why bother arguing with a retard? The fuck is wrong with you people? Ignore him.

>>152138723
I'm not arguing with him and stopped replying when he stopped even trying to put up a semblance of argument, I'm just telling you that he may in fact be serious which makes it that much more terrifying.

>>152138590
>no real argument, just greentext memes
>asked to give examples
>unable to come up with any
(Yuu)

Here's a chinese bootleg (You). You haven't earned a real one.

>>152138636
Yeah, the soldiers falling on the side when they get hit is a bit wonky.

>the guys he was shooting at the ladder kept dying in the same fashion
To be fair if you shoot people in the head in warband they also die basically on the same fashion.

Hopefully they will work in animations instead of wasting time with co-op.

Now that the dust has settled, how excited are you for co-op? :^)

maybe one thing they need to imrpove AI-wise is how the attackers approach castles

none of them had their shields up

>>152138810
Grabbing their face you mean
I honestly didn't mind, we just need more diverse animations
Maybe two or three more and a chance to randomly ragdoll

>>152138817
Confirmed not in the game as it is.

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>people arguing about co-op again

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>>152138817
Very excited, now that co-op is a possibility we can expect Bonerlord to be released in 2019 at best!
I'm so hyped! Also
>pic related

>>152138873
Yeah, the grabbing face.

I don't mind either, but with at least 10 different animations it becomes less glaring.

>>152138853
Maybe the new recruits are too scared to remember?

>>152138853
Weren't they climbing a ladder?

>>152138917
Wew

>a bunch of autists with no friends got actually offended
What, did I hit a nerve there? Well you know, denial can make it all better for you, as always. It's not like you dont have friends because you're awkward autists, it's because "le stoopid normies", amirite?

>>152138941
lol

>>152138951
its about 2:15 in when you see everyone approaching

the fight at he gate looked sick though

Multiple entry points is good for the player but it will be hard to code decently for the AI to handle and it can take a lot of the defender's advantage. If you take the walls everyone is fucked, though in the siege attack video they did show troops retreating to a more defensible position.

>>152138717
what extended video are yo talking about, the 6 minute siege one?

>>152138957
>with no friends
this is dumb, you don´t need "friends" to play co op modes unless you mean couch co op or LAN

>>152139085
>still replying when he got this obvious

>>152139085
I got you to reply!

>>152139026
Perhaps but you also have to remember that it means every place has less pressure. An insane number of troops die on approach, not in battle, so 5 entry points means 20% of the people on each approach meaning you might have very few people actually GETTING to the castle on each approach
Also infinite arrows is now a thing for defenders, you clearly see the PC go from 0 arrows to 18.

>>152139085
JUST
STOP
RESPONDING

>>152139085
>playing co-op with randoms
Who does that?
>>152139126
>>152139146
>>152139153
Autists go and stay go.

>>152138957
>autists with no friends
>this projection

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>>152138925
Jokes on you what is dead may never die

>>152139147
>Also infinite arrows is now a thing for defenders, you clearly see the PC go from 0 arrows to 18.
He could be cheating though infinite ammo for defenders is definitively a must. Or at least make it so you can stockpile ammo in the castle for sieges, that would be actually better as unprepared forts would be easier to take.

>>152139263
I doubt there's really cases of defenders straight up running out of arrows often
Maybe newly-taken castles? But yeah it'll probably be moddable.

>he could be cheating
Maybe we don't know all the cheats after all. He did let his horse get killed though so maybe he wasn't cheating?

>>152139210
Sure, anon, you don't like co-op totally not because you have no one to play it with :^)

>>152139147
>>152139263
Frank already said they cheat for the demonstation videos after they got called out for it in the E3 video.

Do you think the new sieges will be easier for the attacker than the old ones or harder ?

>>152139357
How could anything possibly be harder than single file up one ladder?

>>152139357
Definitively easier. Multiple entry points facilitate things and it makes even easier to abuse the AI.

>>152139351
Yeah but we don't know if he's actually cheating for ammo. We know he cheats.

>>152139357
I'm torn
I think it'll be easier for non-upgraded castles but much, MUCH harder for fully upgraded castles. I mean just the murder holes alone is terrible and before you get into the gate or walls it just keeps dropping shit on the gatehouse battle

>>152139357
I was wondering about it, especially if one AI faction sally out against the other that has better units for defense.

can someone upload the extended video to youtube? having some problems with the stream vod

Bannerlord without co op might as well be Warband with a new coat of paint
expecting 6-7/10 ign if no coop

>>152139440
>I think it'll be easier for non-upgraded castles but much, MUCH harder for fully upgraded castles.

Really hope that's the case, I wish we knew more about upgrades

>>152139440
>and before you get into the gate or walls it just keeps dropping shit on the gatehouse battle
This, plus with infinite arrows the archers are just going to be shitting on your heads from a safe spot. Taking the walls is going to be the way to go, assaulting the gatehouse is only a last resort. I mean can you imagine trying to punch through a gatehouse guarded by the equivalent of huscarls backed up by pikemen (just entry tier, doesn't have to be high tier) while archers shit on your helmets and militia haul catapult rocks onto your moshpit?

>>152139423
Yeah but like nobody does that.

You just mass archers and shoot at the garrison till they all die. Balistas and stuff might make this a lot harder.

>>152139468
>falseflagging so hard
Give it a rest, autismo. This is exactly the reason no one likes you and you don't have any friends.

>>152131291
This is acceptable, but the faction colour must change from cyan to something else.
t. Slavposter

>>152139594
>with infinite arrows
this is a meme

>>152131291
>Of course he immediately recognised I was from /mbg/
Sturgians is a forum meme, not just /mbg/. Try harder next time.

>>152139652
You mean it's not realistic or that it isn't confirmed? I think it's safe to assume until further notice since his arrows just refill instantly from 0 to 18 as soon as he draws the bow again, he'd have to time it perfectly.
As for realism, nah it's pretty fucking realistic there is no reason why a castle wouldn't have crates upon crates of ammo.

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Y'all have a blessed day now, and remember: stay faithful!

>>152139594
>aking the walls is going to be the way to go, assaulting the gatehouse is only a last resort.
That's my thoughts too, seems like building a few towers might be better. I hope they make waiting out actually feasible too.


>>152139325
>I doubt there's really cases of defenders straight up running out of arrows often
I mean if you JUST took a castle and someone rode forth to besiege it you'd be pretty fucked, with low food and low ammo.

>>152139457
I think that sallying out is basically getting them with their pants down, so technically it wouldn't matter. Maybe there's a more random element where you can spot the sally earlier and when they get to you you have lots of soldiers ready.

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brand new!!! :^)

damn it captain crust.

>>152139767
erdogan´s upcoming Iran-style ban of non Islamic media prohibits any semblance of christian like cultures in m&b

>>152139790
But that's correct. It just happened to be a relatively small amount, packaged around 1-day-old footage.
Stop getting so mad over video games. Have patience.

>>152139790
You must've missed first part of the presentation, there was new footage.

>>152139789
Sallying out is going to be tough against factions fielding lots of horses since they basically just call for reinforcements and you have until their entire fucking army is on your ass to do anything
>seems like building a few towers might be better
Castle upgrade info W H E N

>>152139594
You guys are forgetting what Frank said in the blogpost about the E3 video.

The longer the time you spend in the overworld-map sieging the more damaged the castle will be in the battle-map. He said no walls will fall in-battle you only see the walls after they have been destroyed.

>>152139745
>You mean it's not realistic or that it isn't confirmed?
He means it is a shitty game-play mechanic that I the devs aren't stupid enough to implement.

>>152139841
>>152139845
i want more bannerlord cause i have no friends :c

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>>152139790
He is obviously learning from the best

>>152139885
That sounds cool.

>He means it is a shitty game-play mechanic that I the devs aren't stupid enough to implement.
How is it a shitty gameplay mechanic? Explain yourself, there's no logical reason in gameplay or otherwise why archers shouldn't get infinite ammo in sieges. They'll be overpowered in sieges but that's the point, archers are gods in siege battles.

>>152139885
Not even him but infinite arrows during sieges make sense and kinda alleviate the whole "use your archers to kill them all shit".
The defenders need to have the advantage.

So when does Bannerlord actually come out?

>>152139957
Because giving everyone infinate ammo ruins balance. Everyone having limited works better gameplay wise.

>>152140003
How would the defenders have more arrows than the attackers?

>there is no game
>we see the same thing over and over because each bit of footage is hand created cg

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>>152140052
10 years

>>152140090
Because you stockpile ammo in a castle while the attackers can't possible bring that much?

>Because giving everyone infinate ammo ruins balance. Everyone having limited works better gameplay wise.
Not everyone, just the defenders.
Sieges aren't supposed to be a balanced affair, the defenders are supposed to have the advantage.

>>152140090
>Because giving everyone infinate ammo ruins balance.
Sieges aren't supposed to be fucking balanced though. You're SUPPOSED to take 5:1 losses. If sieges are balanced this is a sign something is fucked. And archers are piss-shit in melee anyway so once you close and actually get ONTO the walls, it's game over for the defenders - as it should be.

>How would the defenders have more arrows than the attackers?
They're in a castle aka a military fort and supply depot?

>>152139736
The exchange took place, man. I don't know what I can do to convince you otherwise.

Checked out the pen drive I got- contains a little paragraph of game summary, some wallpaper, screenshots and a copy of the video that's now on youtube. 16GB.

Good lads, Taleworlds.

>>152140173
arrows are expensive and much more time consuming to make than bullets, there is real chance for defenders to run out and no real reason to think, neccisarily, the defenders have any more than the attackers.

The attackers have supply wagons and shit, if defenders can leave the wall to go out of arrow range to get more arrows, why cant the attackers just walk back a quarter mile to get more arrows too?

>>152140179
>Sieges aren't supposed to be fucking balanced though.
Then they already are working as intended with limited with limited arrows.

>>152140173
>Not everyone, just the defenders.
Why would the people that actually DO have a limited supply have infinite?

>>152140313
>arrows are expensive and much more time consuming to make than bullets
Any invalid granma can sit down and make them by the dozens

how about a new game mechanic. the arrows you use in battle or sieges don't refill when you finish the battle or siege. there is an option to collect arrows after you win the battle or siege. otherwise you have to keep buying arrows

>>152140313
>arrows are expensive and much more time consuming to make than bullets
Good thing the lord of the castle isn't some poor faggot.

> there is real chance for defenders to run out
I agree with that, that's why I said a system where you stockpile stuff instead of always being infinite is better.

> no real reason to think, neccisarily, the defenders have any more than the attackers.
Now you are just going full retarded. A castle is stuffed up with military supplies, from weapons to ammo. You think castles are there to attract tourists nigger?

>>152140390
>Why would the people that actually DO have a limited supply have infinite?
Because you are defending on top of a pile of supplies?
I said i'd rather have a system where you do stockpile supplies so they can actually run out after multiple attacks or because you are unprepared, but even infinite arrows would be better than Warband.

>>152140390
>Why would the people that actually DO have a limited supply have infinite?
Why would defenders have limited but the attackers have infinite? What the fuck?

>Then they already are working as intended with limited arrows.
And adding infinite arrows doesn't hurt them at all. Look man imagine the following - 200 archers, 20 arrows each. The enemy is 1000 strong. You down 400 and are now out of arrows (missed arrows, blocked-by-armor, or shielded for the rest let's say). Now what? Instead of taking more arrows from your supply depot you draw swords?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YowlxUwt1Qo

Video is up.

>>152140571
isn't there a 720p video somewhere?

>>152140683
It's probably 480 because youtube is still processing it. And no, there are no other videos of stream yet.

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>>152140571
Pick it apart.
>we can see the lords in garrison
>we can build multiple workshops
>it was a grill
What else?

>>152140402
I dont think you understand how involved making a proper war arrow is. They have to be made out of the right kind of wood, shaped and tapered right so they dont splinter when fired but have good flight characteristics, and each point needs to be hand forged by a smith

>>152140509
Its not just cost, its time and resources. When medieval armies were going to war orders went out across the entire region for arrows.

>>152140746
Find me sieges where the defender runs out of fucking arrows before the attacker, barring shit like getting jumped unprepared. The defender of a castle siege has effectively unlimited ammunition compared to an attacker.

>>152140402
And the attackers would have actual fletchers and not have to resort to breaking down the furniture to make them.

>>152140490
>>152140509
Arrowing working the same way food does I am fine with that.

>>152140539
Why would defenders have limited but the attackers have infinite?
Because the defenders have a limited supply and the attackers have the ability to get more.

>Now what?
You draw swords.
>Instead of taking more arrows from your supply depot you draw swords?
Limited supply.

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>>152140313
>no real reason to think, neccisarily, the defenders have any more than the attackers
Jesus christ.

>he attackers have supply wagons and shit,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_logistics#16th_century
>Until the Napoleonic wars, the military supply was ensured by looting, requisition or private companies. In 1807, Napoleon created the first Train regiments, entirely dedicated to the supply and the transport of the equipment.

Look lad, they didn't normally take much with them. Carrying the stones for the catapults was already enough and feeding the necessary people and horses when most of the food already came from foraging would be retardly expensive. If they needed supplies they would buy from somewhere else usually far away, request it from a nearby allied castle or do without.
You'd need to wait days for new supplies to arrive while the defenders are sitting on top of a pile of food and ammo. You are retarded if you think they are on the same footing.

>>152140746
>Its not just cost, its time and resources. When medieval armies were going to war orders went out across the entire region for arrows.
While your soldiers aren't fighting each one can be making arrows day and night. Jesus lad they ddin't give masterwork arrows for every soldier, most of the arrows probably had wooden heads since footsoldiers were also lightly armored.

We are talking about stockpiled supplies anyway, so time and resources are irrelevant. The defenders are already sitting on top of a pile of arrows, they don't need to wait for them.

>>152140818
>sieges

Real sieges often dont even have a combat element. A siege camp is going to be better supplied than a castle because the entire fucking point of a siege is to cut them off from outside resources.

Castles also often had very few defenders. If the attackers had enough manpower to storm it, then yeah, the defenders probably wouldn't run out because yeah im sure they had enough arrows for 12 archers to fire for a while.

arrows dont come out of nowhere though. Its not like you can break apart a chair and suddenly convert it into arrows, and even if you could the castle would run out of furniture eventually.

>>152140913
>Arrowing working the same way food does I am fine with that.
It's retarded though,w hat's the point of defending an arms depot when you have as much ammo as the attackers?

>Because the defenders have a limited supply and the attackers have the ability to get more.
The defenders are sitting in a huge supply stack while the attackers are in a hostile territory, subjected to raids and spending a lot of food and money to keep going.

Jesus christ lad you seriously believe attackers have an advantage over supplies to the defenders?

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>>152140740
More stuff, I don't think there's anything new here.

>>152140913
>>152141003
>Because the defenders have a limited supply and the attackers have the ability to get more.
This isn't how it works, if you have no idea what you're talking about you need to stop talking. The amount of stockpiled supplies in any castle would be insane, it's a literal supply depot. It's the difference between the amount of wheat a merchant caravan would be carrying compared to a major grain depot.
Sure the merchant travels across farms and can buy or extort grain, but the grain depot has been stocking shit for the entire year if not multiple years in the case of relative peace in the vicinity.

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>>152140935
>most of the arrows probably had wooden heads
is this the most retarded post of all time?

>>152141003
Castles stockpile stone and wood too, not only food and ammo.

>>152140935
A war bow puts a lot more force on an arrow than the bows people hunt with. You cant just have any random person sharpen a stick thats 'straight enough' and glue some fletching to it. Making war arrows is a skill for craftsmen

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TW forums are being irritable.

Has warsword had its update yet?

>>152141003
>Real sieges often dont even have a combat element. A siege camp is going to be better supplied than a castle because the entire fucking point of a siege is to cut them off from outside resources.
And those sieges can last literal years because of how much supply is available inside and there are historical sieges that the attacker was forced to break off because they got outlasted by the garrison.

>>152141096
Good thing arrows don't go bad in a year and you are sitting in a pile of them.

>>152141026
>>152141053
Okay. I will agree to defenders having more ammo than the attackers on the condition that ammo now has to be bought/made and carried with you/stored as an actual resource like food in Warband or cannonballs in Caribbean!

>>152140720
thanks for the video

>>152141167
Right but that's what we're arguing for. You could just buy 1000 stacks of arrows because they're piss cheap and don't rot or anything.

>>152141167
That's what I said, castles should have stockpiles of food, arrow and cannonballs. You shouldn't need to carry them around with you and most castles had a smithy too so if you wanted to stockpile wood and iron you could also make more.

Arrows SHOULD run out but archers should be able to replenish them.

Any youtube video of the Bannerlord stream of today? I missed the stream.

>>152141290
>>152141215
>>152141167
The reason I was arguing for infinite was because while stockpiles are preferable, besides in exceptional cases the amount of ammo available is, effectively, infinite.

>>152141323
Ye up the thread.

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>>152141003
>Real sieges often dont even have a combat element
Yeah they kinda had, that's the whole purpose of building engines and battlements to shoot people, and stockpiling ammo.

Is Calradia no longer based on the middle ages?

>>152141215
Don't make them piss cheap then? When I play an archer I usually go through 1-2 quivers myself.

>>152141290
>You shouldn't need to carry them around with you
Why not? They way I think it would work is you would have a bundle/cart with hundred(s) of arrows that your archers re/fill their quivers with at the end of each battle.

>>152141215
>piss cheap
The arrows that an english longbowman shot into french knights stuck in the mud, historically, cost about $2.50 in todays money a piece.

Thats literally FOUR tacos.

The average archer was expected to be able to fire 15 arrows per minute, thats $37 gone a minute, or 60 tacos easily.

In just one minute it cost you as much for that archer to fire, as it cost you to feed him for a week.

>>152141417
>Don't make them piss cheap then?
They would be piss-cheap though, although they'd be significantly less cheap if you actually burned through arrows.

>>152141473
Roughly half of those arrows are recoverable and a single set of looted plate armor covers the cost of a thousand. I'm talking in game terms.

>>152141354
I think that, if they don't make stockpiles, infinite is preferable than the Warband system.
The defender should have the advantage.

>>152141417
>Why not?
Because the castle is there to stockpile it. You should only need to carry it TO the castle (or rather you shouldn't, you should order them).

Stockpiles could even be another castle development path with pantry/ammo/resource stockpiling increasing if you expand them and consequently leading to more developed castles being better prepared for long and bloody sieges.