/dsg/ - Souls General

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Why do I rarely ever get summoned as a Blade of the Darkmoon?

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There's a goddamn bonfire over there.

>every invader I've had has been some try hard meta shitter
At least make a creative build you fuck

>>152083324
you're not qualified and a low ranking in yorshka's darkmoon company

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post fashion

>>152083324
many darkmoons, not many invaders because it's shit

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Was i too fast or am I just too good?
First character, only looked online on how to free siegward from the dungeon.

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>>152083457

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>Hyper Armor on GreatAxes 1HR1 start's earlier in offhand compared to mainhand (269ms vs 434ms)

>>152083373
Spout wings and fly away!

>>152083562
>mfw I have the same level

>at 90 hours
I hate you so damn much.

>>152083373
There's an invisible path that leads there, throw some prism stones down in front of you.

>>152083373
think outside the box, anon

>>152083105
Not on reaction, unless you have flawless connection.
>fromsoftware
>flawless connections

>>152083228
>catch him
lmao with that speed boost I get for invading right?
>move on to the next invasion
every host now just books to the fog gate, game's dead.

>>152083235
Then you admit you're literally defending Lucifer's shitty opinions? Good on you, anon.

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>>152083707
>90 hours
>level 78
What the fuck

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>>152067338

>>152083707
>hating
>for missing half the game

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>>152083562
Heres the build, used astora straight sword mostly.

>>152083681
>>152083721
I tried jumping from Anor Londo's spinning tower while it was moving. I died.

To whomever asked for favorite enemies in terms of sound :
1. Channelers
2. DS1 Ghosts
3. Mimics.
4. Butchers
5. Crystal lizards.

>Dark Souls III will be updated with a new version (1.07) on August 25th 2016 on all platforms. The maintenance needed for this update will cause online multiplayer to be unavailable during this period:

>The length of the Hammer skill, Perseverance (reduce damage when activated), has been increased
>Delayed the movement cancel timing of certain medium shields upon guard break
>Removed the ability to parry when using the skills Blind Spot (Corvian Greatknife, Handmaid’s dagger) and Dancer’s Grace (Dancer’s Enchanted Swords)
>Adjusted the shield penetration properties of Harpe, Shotel, Crescent Moon Sword, Carthus Shotel, Man Serpent Hatchet and Darkdrift
>Fixed a bug where sound effects did not play properly when using Lightning Spears in quick succession
>The attack cancel timing for rapiers equipped in the left hand has been adjusted
>Several balance issues have been adjusted
>Flaws have been fixed to improve performance

>>152083373
That's just leftover assets.

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>>152083196
Cute!!

>>152083868
You do know that google exists, right?

>>152083868
>while it was moving
There's your problem.

>>152083807
Let's just say I took my sweet time.

Also, each time I have a new weapon, I go to the high wall and I murder everything.

I also murder everything in the high wall when I'm angry, or stressed, or bored.

>>152083562
Did you do optional shot or just speed forward?
I don't think you can do this fast without missing a ton of shit

>>152083756
You don't need to be able to do it on reaction. It's pretty easy to predict.

>>152083756
>every host now just books to the fog gate, game's dead.
i did around 40 invasions yesterday and you're blatantly lying

>no STR curved sword
why

>>152083927
I tried using the binocular googles, it didn't help me.
I fell to my death nonetheless.

>>152083919
>I help any time
>go to anor londo
>he's dead
Not so helpful this time, asshole ;~;

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>>152083919
CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>152083919
CUTE!

The Darklurker has angel wings. Is he related to DS3 angels?

>>152083756
>B-but Lucifer!

Are you just entirely incapable of making an argument that can stand on its own merits?

First you throw out muh ganks when the conversation is about the host actively avoiding a fight in the first place and now you're just throwing out the name of an unpopular tripfag like it means anything.

Get your shit together dude.

>>152084295
The Darklurker is your own darkness given a body.

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>>152084041
I do it all the time.

>>152083884
DLC announcement near it, they'll stealth patch something advertising it

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>>152084247
Cute?

>>152084223
Different giant.

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>>152084247
Cute!

>>152084412
>a shitposting and blatantly lying guy is a typical pontiff shitter
like a clock

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post waifus
this one is male tho

>>152083994
I killed
>Ludex
>Vordt
>Cancer tree
>Pinwheel from DaS's sister
>The pope and friends
> The three stooges (Abyss watchers)
>Nitos father
>demon king
>pontiff
>yhorm
>gwynvere 2.0
>Dancer of the ass valley
>dragonslayer
>Lothric and his brother
>Dark souls protag
According to wiki I missed 4 bosses.
Huh.

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>>152084578
Best Waifu still

>>152084578
>this one is male tho
Oh it shows

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>>152084434
oh yes, time to rev up cheat engine in a week
>inb4 they will patch in some functional dlc weapons or at least their movesets that are visible in pvp

>>152084618
>gwynvere 2.0
Congratulations, you killed a giant woman who was sleeping on a couch.

Which boss in DS3 busts your balls harder than any other?

I gotta go with Pontiff simply because I suck ass at parrying and his combo strings last ages.

>>152084618
You mean you beat dancer, saw a path on your left andnever went there to check it out? No wonder you were so fast, I'll bet you missed a ton more of stuff

>>152084618
>Ludex

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>>152084578

>>152084789
I always mix up the giantess and the tranny

>>152084870
at ng+7 soul of cinder is by far the hardest boss in the game in my opinion
especially his scimitar phase that can kill you in like 3 very fast swings

>>152084870
second phase baby smasher annoys me the most, followed by the Super Yaoi Bros

Is Dark Souls II worth getting? I just finished another run of the first game and 2 is the only one that I never touched. I just hear bad things about it both gameplay and lorewise.

>>152084870
I beat Pontiff fair and square the first time but now I just summon for him because fuck him.

>>152084870
Pontiff. I beat him fair and square the first time, but now I always parry him to death.

His combos are way too long and with windows way too short for ultra weapons.

>>152084083
>no str straightsword
>no str curved sword
>no str curved greatsword
>no str thrusting sword
>no str dagger
>no str spear
>no scythe

>the str greatsword is the worst one
>the str UGS are all outclassed by quality UGS
>the best greataxe is quality
>most axes are better quality
>hammers and greathammers are the only weapon classes in the game best-used on a pure strength build.
Memehackzaki

>>152085117
Not unless you can get it for like $5 with all the DLC included, and SotFS is even worse than Vanilla.

>>152084870
Soul of Cinder, mostly because of that Manus-style combo. I've had the fucker turn around 180 degrees to get me with the second hit when I dodged behind him during the first.

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OOOOOOOOOOOH.

>>152085117
Yeah. It has its flaws but it's still pretty fun.

>>152085117
It's definitely worth getting.
>I've heard bad things of it lorewise. I dislike anything directly tied to Dark Souls 1 in DS2, it feels like a bad fanfiction, but I like the game's own story which they should've focused on more since DS2's take on DS1 story is just straight up bad.

>>152084554
That's giant blacksmith's line

>>152084392
>muh ganks
That's the only way the host will fight, else they'll roll forever to get their summons back or just DC or book for the fog gate if they're smart. Giving back fog gate invul privileges to hosts being a good thing is the shitty opinion Lucifer, a retarded tripfag known for being wrong spouted out and you're defending it, how is it not relevant?

How is the fact that twinks exist even relevant to the argument at hand? Are you implying people can't run from twinks?

>>152084576
>Triggered

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On the game first weeks I remember seeing a picture of someone on the roofs of Irithyll, doing the stretch out pose.

To this day I still don't know how to get there.

>>152085117
2 is fine. In many ways it's the weakest Souls game, but it also took several steps forward. A lot of the hate it gets is just people looking for issues, if people applied the same level of scrutiny to DS1 we'd never hear the end of how you can fight Oscar while you're both wearing his armor or how the Asylum Demon is just a rehash of the Vanguard Demon who's further rehashed twice.

>>152085396
No it's not.
He says :
>Forge I can, strong I am
>Forge your weapons?
>Talk? 'Tis no good. But forge,very good.
>Cometh soon.

>>152085607
It should be telling that the only "praise" for 2 that fanboys have is just them attacking the other games.

>>152085452
PC (and maybe consoles, IDK) had a float glitch, it was probably that.

>>152085117
just pirate it and see for yourself, don't give Bamco your money
certainly the weakest souls game and even though there's some good ideas in that steaming pile of shit it's not really worth paying for

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>>152084578
husbando reporting

>>152085016
How can you? The one is for tender, loving sex, the other is just a lordvessel-granting illusion

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Post you favourite emotional boss

DeS
>Astraea

DaS
>Gwyn

DaS2
>Ivory King might be

DaS3
>Twin Princess

BB
>Gehrman

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>>152085787
praises about both games can be completely disregarded as opinions anyway, so it's pointless to bring them out.

I prefer DaS2's pvp and fashion souls, but you clearly don't, even though it's obvious that DaS2 offered more options in regard to both at a higher level.

>>152084927
>stealing my ds1 fashion
good taste

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Listen here niggers, the following character names at an FC means trouble, and you should avoid FCs if the following are present

>Crusader/Burnt Vincent
>Drake
>Natalya
>Rules of nature
>Depression
>Heavy Knight
>Battlemage Ley/Ley
>Paddrick
>Samuel McClure
>Fyre
>Berke
>Dietrich
>Hierke
>Reginald
>Straylight
>Mikoto
>Zilrael
>Reckless Pete
>Alsatia
>Fudman
>Huntsman Andy
>Smug Loli
>BEANBADDY
>Lucio/Lucio the Wolf
>Ryye
>Dog
>Ariya
>Serene Haze
>Rhino
>Champion Conrad
>Paladin Alys
>any "LOL SO RANDUM XDDD" memer (judge by their clothes)
>anyone carrying a metacancer weapon
>anyone with minmaxer's armor

That should cover it for the *most* part.

FC When?

>>152086090
>anyone with minmaxer's armor
What even

>>152085398
>Are you implying people can't run from twinks?

I know you know I'm not.

>How is the fact that twinks exist even relevant to the argument at hand?

Because you're speaking in absolutes and assuming that they're true 100% of the time when they are not. You did the same thing in the very first sentence of this post.

What is the current meta shitter weapons?

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>>152085992
Nice choice

>>152086041
This should also be telling. They claim shit like this, yet they never offer any supporting details or facts to support their opinions.

>>152085969
>DaS
Artorias

>DaS2
big guy in armor #34

>DaS3
Twin Princes

>BB
Gehrman

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>>152086120
in a few minutes
place your signs in the darkwraith cell, pic related

>>152086090
I only know two of these names and have fought both of them, just because they're better than your average shitter doesn't mean you should avoid them :^)

>>152085667
that's not the only thing he says. try talking to him for the sake of it, not just for forging, you inconsiderate asshole

>>152085787
I'm saying that all of the games are flawed you retarded fucknugget. Were you so triggered by the fact that I don't think DaS1 is perfect that you glossed over me saying that it's the weakest Souls game in many ways?

>>152083629
Where'd you get this info?

Here's why DaS2 is a worthwhile buy if you liked the rest of the series :
>More Souls game content and a LOT of it
>Powerstancing is fun even if it ends up feeling samey
>A lot of variety in viable builds
>instantaneous connections in multiplayer
>don't have to take the whole game to NG+ if you want to replay one boss due to Ascetics
>whips are not only viable but actually good
>NG+ has new content
>level hub+DLCs bring a lot of replay value
>A ton of bosses (Admittedly, a lot of them are shit)

>>152086256
forgot to say
PC, pass: dsg

>>152086359
>instantaneous connections

yeah i love having to use a red eye orb 47 times to get one invasion

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>>152083457

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>>152086256
>>152086427
I wouldn't do that if I were you. What if you ran into a single /dsg/ player there? It'd be bad news bears.

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>>152083629
[citation needed]

>>152086256
>>152086427
Repost FC info in all caps to garner attention

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>>152086535
why are such a fag

>>152086214
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/armor
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/armor

58 x 105 and that's not counting separated pieces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b86W5xfM1c8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxN0M7wOJIY

weapon and armor variety in pvp in 2
everyone using gr8clubs and havelmoms in 1

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>>152086735
I do what I must.

>>152086359
>More Souls game content and a LOT of it
Quantity above quality
>Powerstancing is fun even if it ends up feeling samey
Good idea with the worst possible fucking realization starting with low variety of powerstance movesets and ending with them being blatantly unviable in most cases and left hand weapons having 10-15% damage debuff.
>A lot of variety in viable builds
No more than in other game in series and soul memory fucks over any attempts to make builds.
>instantaneous connections in multiplayer
But no auto-search so you're forced to rape the orbs if they can't find someone
>don't have to take the whole game to NG+ if you want to replay one boss due to Ascetics
Which takes out the entire purpose of NG+ and wastly deacreases ng+ population, back in days when ng+ was separate from ng it was hilariously unpopulated compared to it
>whips are not only viable but actually good
A mid-tier at best
>NG+ has new content
True, but the quality of that content is highly questionable and mostly ends up with added black phantom enemies who have gorillion HP or blatantly unfinished falconers with their ugly animations
>level hub+DLCs bring a lot of replay value
???
>A ton of bosses (Admittedly, a lot of them are shit)
Quantity above quality

>>152086685
No, stop doing that stupid shit to FCs, if someone is after one they can just ctrl+F it, all caps just enables retards

>>152086535
Why are you so tsundere, Jojoposter

>>152086310
You're still doing it. You're still attacking the other games rather than trying to explain how DaS2 was good.

>>152086359
The thing is Quality is more important than Quantity.
Power stancing was pointless, especially at the end.
There was no variety to be had in DaS2. Because of Soul Memory, there was no reason not to have 99 in every stat. Even if you didn't, you would be matched with people that did anyway.
I had less invasions in 2 than any of the other games, especially since there was no infinite use invasion items. Even then, there was a timer so if you couldn't find the host in time, you would just be automatically kicked back to your own world.
Ascetics were stupid when compared to the Chalice Dungeon system.
etc

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>>152086846
Because as much as I want to try and like some of you, the greater good comes first. FCs are awful, godawful, worse in 3 than they ever were in terms of pure concentrated awful.

Anyone who attends has to get the cut.

Granted, I feel genuine disgust toward some of you like that fat nigger Drake.

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>can't go 15 minutes without getting disconnected from the DS3 servers and sent back to the main menu

who is the cutest firekeeper

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>>152085117
It should be telling that autists are so determined to ride the hate train that they'll take the time to disagree with literally anything good that's said about DS2.

>>152086256
>>152086427
>not a single fucking sign
I got memed, didn't I?
no FC then I guess

>>152086526
ds2 zwei has the ds1 dreatsword moveset iirc and the shape is closer too

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>>152087176
And everything is as it should be.

>>152087176
>in a few minutes

I thought you were going to host only later

>>152087017
How would you know if they're bad if you haven't been to one recently?

Did you like part 7?

>>152087176
>checked the entire arena
>signs in a different place than I asked
what did you guys mean by this

>>152087017
jojo poster is so cool

Is Anri's sword any good? Doing a luck run.

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Moments that just tickle your Soulsboner :
>think an area is suspicious, thrown an alluring skull in there and defuse an ambush
>set off an exploding barrel by freeaiming firebombs just as an enemy is walking by them
>do a slow walk approach against a knight
>riposte him stylishly
>get a host to do the "empty estus"-animation
>clear an area of mobs without getting hit once using bows, Firebombs and other methodical gameplay
>kill an enemy by the stairs, and watch their ragdoll tumble down the stairs as you slow walk towards the next one

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>>152087284
I'm unsure if it's my favorite or not, but it is among Araki's best.

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>my brother is home for college break and decides to play dark souls
>it makes me want to play das1 + 2 again
>finish das1, felt pretty easy, but i played the shit out of it
>just right before the forgotten prisoner
>feels easy
Is das3 that much harder than 1 and 2 or am i just too used to every mob and boss just wombo comboing me down? Cause das2 is usually a corpse grind simulator for me and i am breezing through it for once.

>>152086995
>You're still attacking the other games

No, I'm correcting you and doing so required a reaffirmation of my original point.

I have a list of improvements that I occasionally post and you usually just sperg out about it so I didn't see much point in posting it again since I'll just get the same sperging, but here goes:

>Phantoms have their own healing items
>8-way roll while locked on
>Better smithing system, no colored shards/chunks/slabs and boss weapons don't require a weapon sacrifice
>Equip any weapon/shield in either hand and use it as intended
>Powerstance or 2H left-hand weapon
>Can't be invaded at bonfires
>Torches work for all players
>Can pick up small signs in areas where the boss is dead
>Can invade humans and hollows
>Can invade in areas where the boss is dead
>Name engraved ring
>Can slide down ladders or drop off instead of only sliding
>Can warp to every bonfire
>Matchmaking isn't ass
>You aren't thrown into NG+ immediately after defeating the boss
>Soul vessels
>3 item slots for each hand
>More weapons can parry instead of just blocking
>Can go directly into a sprint without rolling

>yfw the announcement on the 24th is the shutting down of DS3 servers due to the community being ded

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>>152087556
God's in his heaven and all's right in the world.

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>>152087494
>tell that fat nigger drake off
>BTFO Berke
Really gets me going

>>152087514
Leveled to the area 1 is much harder, but there's some incredibly easy ways to kill everything, like reliable parrying on essentially all offhands.

>>152087556
god fucking bless. Too bad it's never gonna happen

>join fc
>fight some guy with dancer swords
>he doesnt just spam roll and let me roll catch him with the chaos blade

damn, that was my entire stragety

>>152087381
Seb, you're not getting summoned if you place the sign in the middle of the fucking arena again

>>152087768
I have a very aggressive playstyle

>>152087176
where are the signs

>>152087548
Telling to why you are wrong is not sperging out. For example the 8 way roll is completely stupid. It runs count to the entire point of lock on, and it the animations with is just look ridiculous and floaty.

And a lot of the other stuff is just opinions, which you never back up, like soul vessels being a good thing.

>Beat a host up
>Chugs
>Continue beating
>Chugs again
>Chug if I get low
>Host dies
Do they forget that Dragons can heal?

>>152087819
that wasnt me, yeah Ill put it somewhere else now

You guys should try a hollow barbed straight sword w/ carthus rouge.

>>152086995
>there was no reason to not have 99 in each stat
Except that it takes fucking forever to do so?
I'm aiming my post for someone who probably focuses on PvE over PvP and as such the meta level cap is not a huge consideration.

>Quality > Quantity
Yeah, but if they played all other available games, it's more content they haven't played. If they were debating between DS3 and 2, I'd tell them to pick 3, but on it's own 2 is still a good game.

>>152088012
Or or, hear me out, hollow carthus rouged carthus curved sword

>>152088153
Honestly, I hate fighting barbed straight sword more.

>>152087510
He really hits his stride after 3 imo, though I know 6 is pretty polarizing

>>152087739
Im not sure i understand. Leveled to the area 1 in what game?

>>152088090
I didn't say to do it immediately. The point is that there is no point in not spending the souls you get to level up. It kills any reason to plan out builds because not using the souls to continuously level just puts you at a massive disadvantage.

BB ha the most content of any of the games so . . .

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>>152088012
Already have

It's pretty fucking brutal

>>152087941
>For example the 8 way roll is completely stupid. It runs count to the entire point of lock on,

This is what I was talking about. That's an objective improvement to the game and you don't like it solely because that's not how it was in DS1 but since you're incapable of admitting that you say it's my opinion and then give your opinion like it's fact.

At that, I took the time to remove my opinions from that list. If it still had my opinions in it it'd mention the estus system and bonfire warping being available from the get-go.

While I'm on that second point I'll get ahead of the nonsense and remind you that the last time we had this exact same conversation your reasoning for bonfire warping being bad was because it "ruined the lordvessel areas" in DS1, and when I pointed out that most (if not all) lordvessel areas have a single warpable bonfire you simply stopped responding.

>>152087494
>Parry a boss on the first try

>>152088545
>Fire Gem is a starting option
>Andre can forge Fire weapons from the start
Now I get it

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Is there a spreadsheet for SoTFS that shows me every weapon I can equip with certain stats?

>>152088615
You're an idiot who thinks your opinion is objective fact.

>>152088803
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2

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>>152088408
1 as in DaS1. A pack of rats hanging out under a bridge is a debilitating fight, your other option to test your luck against the Drake.

>>152088317
6 is good, but it's a pretty bad end for everyone even though Pucci dies

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>>152088724
>release night
>midnight, tired af
>first try parry first enemy
>"hey let's see if i can parry iudex"
>first try parry

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>>152088840
Says the moron who thinks her posts are so important that she feels like she needs to use a name and trip when she's no more of a useless retard than the rest of us.

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What weapon got you guys through your first NG+?
I have a +6 Fire Claymore and it's doing pretty well. I'm planning on switching it to divine when I got into the catacombs.

>>152088861
Ok, i think i see what you are getting at

>>152089054
>she

>>152087514
DaS 1 and 2 allow for more usage of shields and bosses are easier to run away from and shieldtanking is a valid strategy. That and parrying and circling behind enemies in DS1 is lmaoeasy tier.

DaS2 feels fairly rough in the beginning since when you have low AGI, it's a fucking pain trying to rolldodge anything.

DS3 is clearly the hardest one yeah, but some zones in DS1 are pure rape in a way DS3 can't aspire to be because one important facet of DaS1's challenge is not having warp from the beginning so if you're stranded in Blighttown with no moss, or decide to go into the Catacombs without a Divine weapon and don't know where the Necromancers are, you're going to have a bad time.

I think that :
DS3 has the toughest individual fights and on single combat level the bosses and mobs are the hardest.

DS2 DLCs is the leader in most bullshit ganks and master in creating unfair fights

DS1 has the toughest level gauntlets like Catacombs+TotG or Lower Undead Burg to Blighttown is R O U G H.

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>>152088840
The irony in this post, holy shit

>>152088534
>BB has the most content
If I'm buying an entire console for it by Christmas, it better.

>>152089174
>dumb cunt with the same thirst for attention as a late teen girl
Yes. Now put your trip back on.

>>152088840
I can back up my claims with more than "X runs counter to the point of Y," the best you've got is this Spirit of the Game / Heart of the Cards nonsense. I don't even disagree that the animations looked janky, but the ability to roll in any direction is a direct improvement over 4 directions and a semicircle as far as gameplay is concerned.

>>152089410
>basing your major purchases on the opinion of a /vg/ tripfag
Why in god's name would you do this?

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Dark Souls 3 is the easiest souls game.

>>152089467
I decided to get it based on my friends telling me about BB plus the next not-Souls game is probably gonna be on it too so it might not be a terrible purchase.

>>152089410
Bear in mind that you'll be buying an entire console for one game, since most good ps4 games are getting a pc release sooner or later now. I still think renting a ps4 would be a better idea, considering BB online is dead as fuck and there's no reason to waste your time with that fucked up pvp anyway.

>>152089625
Only because there's practically no enemies with poise, and some weapons give the character retard strength

>>152089096
Pickaxe is surprisingly good PvE

>>152088861
I liked the end of 6. The C-Moon/MiH chapters were great at building tension and making Pucci seem like an actual threat, which I felt was lacking in previous parts

>>152089213
>DS2 DLCs is the leader in most bullshit ganks and master in creating unfair fights

Only the old iron king one. Sunken was pretty tame and Ivory only had the tiger rape gang.

I actually had a nightmare where I was running through the brume tower and mobs were coming out of the ground trying to catch me. I ended up stumbling and falling down from the chain. Never dreamed about video games before.

>>152089213
I suppose thats fair.

>>152089213
Demon's is the one with the most challenging world and enemies. No bonfires, just a straight slog and you have to not die and get to the boss and win.

treck from 4-2 to Blindman is fucking horrificly tense

treck from 2-1 to 2-2 and then 2-2 to Flamelurker is also fucking intense

3-1 to Fools Idol, from there up to Maneaters, again, tense as fuck. Especially when you have those cthulu oneshot guys on the narrow fucking stairs right at the end

Also, Poisonland is entirely fucked too, the huge club guys fuck your shit up in the water where you can't roll


Demon's NG+ is imo the hardest in the series

>>152087514
>forgotten prisoner
Lost Sinner?

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>>152089625
ikr what were they thinking
wheres my hardcore challenge

>>152089706
Ivory had Horsecock valley and lmao2cat in the same level.
Not even the blue smelter gauntlet was as big of a middle finger

>>152089458
It's not though. It is an opinion, and I am of the opinion that it is a distinct downgrade. If I am locked on then I want my movements to be in relation to whatever I am locked onto. It I want to be able to roll freely, it takes less than a second to break lock-on and do just that.

>>152089663
I don't think BB online will ever feel as dead as the others if just because of the SRRC system.

>>152089808
That was entirely yur fault, mate.

>>152089957
I honestly never had trouble with Ivory king. Iron King turned me into fucking dsp though but at least fume knight made up for that.

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>>152089625
yeah but theyre all pretty easy tbqpfh

>>152089706
Iron King didn't have a single unfair combat encounter. It was the single best designed combat in the series. Every single encounter was incredibly challenging if you charged right in, but had numerous ways to take the counter apart without engaging it directly, making the whole thing much more doable.

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>>152089808
>not leveling Vig
>attacking when the boss is still swinging

fucking hell paddrick do you have 65 endurance or something

>>152090092
Isn't that the one with the red phantoms that literally cheated?

>>152089957
>He didn't beat 2cat first try

I went into the Ivory King DLC with a Raw +10 Santier's Spear buffed with Dark Weapon.

Literally EZmode for that entire DLC, the durability issue becomes null and void, and the santiers R1 twinblade spam insta stunlocks the horses to death. The R2 2 handed if you angle it right does a double hit on the cats because of their large hitbox, you can kill one before the other has even come down.

>>152089808
Ohm so when people whine about great weapons they just want them to be retard proof like SS

>>152090218
executioner GS has very low stamina cost
it balances out its' WA being trash

Is it possible to access the Ds1 dlc before I collect all of the Lord Souls? I wanna save Lost Izalith's bull shit for later. Also is sl80 good enough for it?

>>152090092
>ganks: the dlc

Fuck if I care if it's fair or not. Only thing I know is that if I had to face 3 more cursed armors backed by 4 soldier niggers with an iron golem approaching from the background I'd have refunded the DLC and bought a gun to shoot myself.

>>152090361
Yeah, I usually just do it after killing Seath

>>152089759
Yeah, but that dude was talking specifically Dark Souls. I loved the idea of how Demon's Souls handled the levels and kinda wish the next Soulsborne I.P would ditch mid-level bonfires and focus on physical shortcuts that invaders could close, pretty please? and boss bonfires. Then also have an interconnected world where the worlds connect at the beginning of the level series to the central hub, and at the ass ends into each other.

>Waving to the Firekeeper in DS3 causes her to bow at you
WHAT
I NEVER KNEW THIS

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>>152090495

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>>152090218
>Fighting Paddrick
Top kek, you should've known from the start you were fucked.

>>152089625
Dancer's skin being her armor now is so fucking hot

>>152090495
Some of the emotes will get her to do a twirl or giggle at you.

After that soldering iron fiasco i guess i should leave the FC

>>152090361
You only have to be able to access Duke's Archive so you have to kill Ornstein and Smough and get the Lordvessel.

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>>152090656
I'd assumed anyone with common sense would've left after 226 came in to rape the host to death.

Go home everyone, this FC is over.

>>152090589
It's good having Paddrick around so that at l;east whenever someone cancerous like Berke shows up, we can just throw paddy at them and let them have it out on each other. Fight cancer with cancer and all that.

>>152090464
>>152090675
Noice, thanks.

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>>152090495
>do Legion Etiquette to Hawkwood
>he doesn't respond
Nigga,fuck you!

So, the basegame had a tonne of Demon's throwbacks (shrine layout, storm ruler, fat official ladies, morion blade etc etc)

What stuff do you think or would you like to see fanserviced to shit up in the DLC?

I want the Black Skeleton look as an armourset. Some kind of Yoshimitsu black skeleton ninja set.

>>152090495
How does a blind woman know she's being bowed at?

>>152090014
>If I am locked on then I want my movements to be in relation to whatever I am locked onto.

Well then it's a good thing that they are. If you lock on and press back and roll then you'll roll backwards, if you press left then you'll roll left, if you press back and left then you'll roll back and left. Back is always away from what you're locked on to, left/right are oriented on the player. Allowing you to roll in more directions can only be considered an improvement.

By what logic is "away from my enemy but also to my left" not an action that's taken in relation to the enemy?

>>152091056
Miyazaki's meme magic

>>152090934
If anything he should attack you for that

>>152090861
thanks for the compliments

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>>152083457
r8 my fashion (I don't have a screenshot ready so I mspaint'd it):
>Farron hat
>2H CMS
>Yhorm's Greatshield (for the poise)
>Artorias Breastplate
>Havel Gloves
>Black Knight Leggings

>>152090993
>What stuff do you think or would you like to see fanserviced to shit up in the DLC?

Flamelurker ala pontiff/champ

>>152090861

I don't mind Paddrick because he's at least not Gotthard's, he's a good player it's just the game incentivizes playing passive too much.

>>152091236
>poise
>curved sword

I don't get it

>>152091308
The only counter to playing passive is playing passive yourself which causes the fights to not be fun to watch or play, which means people should just stop summoning paddrick altogether, unless they want to tryhard, and for what I've been seeing in /dsg/ you guys seem to be against tryharding.

>>152091067
If I am locked on and roll backwards then I want to roll away from them while still facing them. I don't want to awkwardly spin, 180 degrees away from them do a front roll and then awkwardly spin back. If I roll to the left while locked on to them.

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The FC is over bois
I'll let the remaining summons fight, maybe fight myself with the last one, and then it ends, too sleepy to keep hosting
hope you had fun
thanks to everyone who came
except for vincent, he can fuck right off

>people actually defending DS2 lock on

>>152091330
So the laser doesn't get disrupted

>>152091476
Did Vincent kill you too hard?

I WANT TO FUCK MANEATER MILDRED

>>152090993
i kind of want to see drangleic in the dlc because it would make the community shit bricks

>>152090993
elite cleric armor from ds1
twinblades, with a strike damage version
titanite demons and their titty poles
ciaran and gough, i know ciaran's swords are in the games files but i want their armor too
mirdan and plate armor
war scythe and needle of agony
to name a few things

Am i just retarded or does ds2's roll take longer to come out than ds1?

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>>152091476
>raped into submission

>>152090861
Or you know, summon neither.

>>152091657
Rolls in every game are pretty much instant

>>152091440
>The only counter to playing passive is playing passive yourself

You're not wrong, but I prefer keeping an aggressive playstyle to speed things up, which may lead to a loss but i don't really care, if i'm against someone really passive I'd rather die quickly than spending 3 hours for a single duel

>>152091657
You need agility to roll. Else you get shitty ones with a lingering hitbox.

>>152091462
Now you're just criticizing the animations, which we've already both agreed are janky.

This isn't about the animations, this is about gameplay. Function > form and DS2 beats DS1 in this instance.

>>152091476
thanks for hosting

Best area to invade at level 90? Lothric Castle?

>>152091901
Grand Archives and ADP
90 is getting into NG+ ranges so you can probably find people in most earlygame areas, too.

>>152090861
Why do people say Paddrick is "cancerous"?

I've never seen him using meta weapons or anything.

>>152091803
No, I am criticizing the roll itself. The back roll just shows how the rolls are not orientated based on what you are locked onto, and it exposes your back.

>>152091440
anyone who thinks paddrick only plays passively has never experienced his dagger cancer

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>>152091989
Except he does that occasionally and will literally stand there motionless waiting for you to attack if the arena is big enough

>>152091901
At that point you might as well get to 125 and invade archives and dragon peak. Used to do it all the time, instant invasions.

For some reason can't catch people at 90 outside of those areas and irithyll.

>>152091538
>>152091703
>get backstabbed
>no damage
>"oh, he turned on some kind of no damage cheat and did this just to scare me"
>actually it's just his shit connection
>get backstab damage 5 seconds later

>>152091989
He's the single most passive player that shows up to our FCs. He will literally never attack first, and his entire playstyle is "backpedal and wait"

He's not a tryhard, he's just incredible boring to fight and he does it deliberately because he enjoys being annoying and stalling the pace of an FC.

Where can I get the target shield in ds3?
I could parry the world with it in ds2

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>>152092138
>fight against laggy opponent
>random parry
>7-8 seconds later i hear a parry sound
>mfw

>vincent loses constantly at fight clubs
>attacks host out of frustration randomly
>starts avatarfagging as jojo characters to feel better about himself
What a child

>>152091803
>Now you're just criticizing the animations
No, it isn't. If you roll away from someone while locked on, your character actually faces away from them. You have to wait for your character to turn back around after you finish rolling. If you try to do an attack at the end of your roll, it won't be aimed at your lockon target.

>>152092308
Buy from Greirat once he comes back from irithyll i guess

>Host of Embers Greyrat

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>>152092308
>I could parry with a shield made for parrying
no way anon

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>>152092365
I'll have you know I have 500 confirmed kills in the Dark Seals General

>>152092424
actually, he sells it after his undead settlement scavenge

>>152090993
Here's more Demon's throwbacks that you didn't mention :
>Lothric spear knights have the same movesets as Blue Eyed knights in Demon's
>Second Chance
>Approach to Homoprinces is laid out in the same manner as the approach to the Penetrator
>usage of Siegward as Biorr+Ostrava
>the Dragons in Lothric castle are arranged like the dragon in 1-4
>Adjudicator shield
>the infusions
>Karla
>The Jailers and Irithyll Dungeon
>Irina and Eygon mirror Astraea and Garl
>the music switch in the Firenexus.
>Index Gundyr's mask looks like Old King Doran
>Winger knight axes are straight up Guillotine axes
>both 1st "real" bossfights take place in a gatehouse

As for what I'd want :
>Penetrator as bossfight/penetrator's sword
>Shrine of Storms type level

Aside from things you can buy from him, is there ANY reason for me to not kill patches?

So I tried the sellsword swords and I had a blast.

Any other fun weapon I could try?

>>152092382
>If you try to do an attack at the end of your roll, it won't be aimed at your lockon target.

Exactly.

>>152092538
No, you have maybe 50

Some of us have been pvping for many years, and find your little tantrums boring as fuck. Stop taking up image limit or use a trip

>>152092667
Not even that is a reason in dark souls 3, since you get his ashes as you kill him. Whenever greirat dies I just kill him too because fuck going to the third floor just to buy firebombs

Thanks for the fights NMS

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>>152092708
I don't do it because I care about winning, I do it because after the Natalya shit happened I realized how little fun I had interacting with /dsg/ because it's full of losers like me, but with a lot of tryharding involved. Killing hosts is just second to what I wanted to do by attending.

>>152092063
>>152092238
He's definitely attacked first in the times I've fought him. And passive play is the norm in this game, you can't blame him for not being stupid.

Another great patch by Fromshitware

There are 3 year old games which get more frequent and more detailed patchnotes from the devs than this sorry excuse of a company.

>>152092580
>Penetrator as bossfight/penetrator's sword
>Shrine of Storms type level

I like you. Shrine of Storms, while tense is also comfy as fuck. The windy sea air and the climb around the cliffs. I love it.

Though, the narrow passageways inside with the laserbeam ghosts and the invisible backstab guys gives me severe PTSD even to this day

>>152092708
>implying we ever reach image limit

>>152092868

No problem brah, FC was late for me anyway and I wanted some "fun" duels.

>>152092678
sellswords are the highest DPS in the game currently with a decent moveset aside from the rolling attacks, you're not going to find much better

>>152092906
>I realized how little fun I had interacting with /dsg/
then leave, retard

>>152092906
>I do it because after the Natalya shit happened
So I was right when I said that's the moment FCs died, huh.

>>152092906
>tryharding
>says blessed weapon curved sword parry spammer
l o l

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>>152093072
Now why would you go and suggest a silly thing like that? Me being right doesn't affect your life.

>>152093187
redpill me on what Natalya did

>>152093072
I don't really care about DPS, I just want fun weapons. I did Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 with a straight sword and a spear, I want to try new things.

Also, what are the general rules for the various kind of damage? I know strike is for armored targets while slashing is for unarmored ones, but what about standard and thrusting? What are they good against?

>>152090993
>Fluted Armor
>Royal soldier armor
>Steel/Brushwood set
>Balder armor,unbroken,visor closed from the helmet
"Well, what is it?"
>"No way!"
>Elite Cleric set
>Silver Knight Sword (personally I don't care for it but a lot of people would ve glad)

>>152093257
Autism.
Vincent is healing before a duel
Natalya mashes R1 at him with shitty dagger
Vincent heals again
Natalya mashes again
Vincent turns on cheats
Natalya shitposts on /dsg/ saying he has the right to do that because he was using a shitty dagger to begin with
drama ensues

>>152089759
There's nothing tense about DeS when you can stack so much grass. It's only tense for new players who burn through grass quickly.

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>>152093193
I always used Carthus Gotthard's and Carthus in earlier FCs, but as it became about 'cancer' and 'tryharding' and 'it's okay in the FC' nonsense I stopped. I unironically used Blessed Carthus because I thought the sword was pretty.

But if no one cares about these being good why should I? Let Paddrick, Berke, Dietrich and all them come in DaS3 to just paradoxically exist because we hate shitters while we let more skilled players use their tactics because it's just a meme bro

>>152093396
wasn't that ley?

>>152091995
>No, I am criticizing the roll itself.
>Goes on to criticize the animation

A roll towards or away from a target is a roll towards or away from a target whether or not you like the manner in which that roll is performed.

>>152092382
What you just described is the result of a combination of issues that's only present in DS2, namely the aforementioned janky animations and aimed roll attacks being fucked in general in that game, and even then it doesn't apply to greatweapons. You can't turn around with a longsword, but you can turn around with a greataxe.

That's not 8-way roll being bad, that's just some of DS2's general jankiness coming through.

>>152093396
so basically they both acted like pathetic manchildren, although I'd say vincent was worse

>>152092238
I dunno, I was the twinspears guy tthat fought him and for me he would literally just attack 5 times in a row and let me attack him a lot of the time

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>>152093257
I was chillin' and grillin' in an FC. My shitty internet was giving me the invisibility problem and I was trying to see if I could figure it out, because it was genuinely acting worse than usual.

The guy I was slated to fight was waiting for me to come back, and when I black crystaled out to go change WiFi (my neighbor's unprotected WiFi sometimes gets picked up by my desktop) Natalya's sperging out violently

I try to tell Natalya my story and he just says I activated cheats, and that me having to BC out while he wasn't looking and Rules of NATURE waiting to see if I came back was ruining everything.

Fight clubs that are fun are all dead. The only thing left is jobbers getting destroyed by the same tryharding jerkoffs we used to praise.

>>152093641
I dunno man, /dsg/ is filled with manchildren. Some people here had the gall to complain about fucking broken straight sword.

>>152093619
No, it's the roll. If you roll away from someone in the other game, you don't expose your back and your roll attacks still come out the right way, even with a long sword.

>>152093228
You being a whiny bitch only affects your reputation, child. If you don't like something, ignore it or find out ways to deal with it

>>152093278
A varied moveset usually results in things being fun

BKGA is good too purely for the Warcry R2s demolishing everything, or a katana for stance memeing

>>152093478
yeah except people want to have fun, fighting against gotthards and carthus curved sword R1 spam isn't fun to play against, and I imagine it would be much more fun for you if you tried the other attacks

>>152093541
Oh yeah. The Natalya incident was at Pontiff's. It was also about Rules of Nature and presumably Vincent avoid fighting and just running around, thus making it impossible to summon people who wanted to fight.

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>>152092974
>those flags and banners flapping in the breeze
UNF
Although cloth physics got added into the series in Dark Souls 2, it still gets me hard thinking about a crumbly seaside fort with gusts of wind blowing and affecting the physics of worn flags and the character's clothes.

I think it'd be better if we started at the beach, kind of like Lost Bastille, but instead of entering a fortress right away, you'd first start climbing up cliffs and crumbled battlements and fought not only just Hollows but also things like octopi, curse clams ftom DkS1 and other such animals(maybe the slugs)?

>>152093478
I can't say shit about Berke because I've never seen him. I was the last FC's host.
I used to attend /dsg/ fightclubs a month (or two?) ago and I remember Dietrich. He was far from cancerous. In fact, I remember genuinely liking him.
I saw Paddrick's performance a few minutes ago, and he was perfectly fine. The fact that he's good at the game doesn't make him cancer.
Fuck off or at least grow up you pathetic manchild.

>>152087494

I like that Bloodborne has helped me parry shit a lot more. I know it's pretty fucking easy, but I just love how I got the timing down so easy in Dark Souls.

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>>152093954
And fighting Berke isn't great, and fighting Paddrick isn't great, and fighting all the tryhards who freely roam isn't great. No one cares, I don't either.

>>152093947
It's not enough that I should be right, others should have to be subjected to this too.

>>152093478
>unironically using buffed cardcaptor

>>152093795
>unironically using wifi

ahahahahahahaha
go cry yourself to sleep, maybe when you wake up you'll be motivated enough to kill yourself

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>>152093983
>blessed quickstep dagger Dietrich
>Buffedhards and AGS rollspam Berke
>Paddrick the Passive, hasn't attacked since DaS2 and when people pressure him into doing it he goes full "fuck it" mode and tries to parry or bait you into a backstab

At least be informed of that which you speak of.

>>152093839
I used to attend /dsg/ FCs before and I remember that. Holy shit, that drama was so fucking pathetic. That was one of the main reasons why I gave up on the FCs.

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>>152093839
>Some people here had the gall to complain about fucking broken straight sword.
But it's a straight sword so it's automatically cancer!

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>>152094313
>unironically complaining about a fucking blessed dagger

>>152094319
The drama is always so high because everyone in them are scrubs that refuse to admit they are bad. Whenever they start getting their shit pushed in they start up the drama rather than admit they suck and try to improve. They would rather bitch at you, to try to get you to stop beating them/change your gear/style, than just learn how to beat you.

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>>152094236
You wouldn't have greentexted blessed carthus a month or two ago. But like the winds changed and everyone started replying to my posts, everyone started caring about Carthus. No one cares about Dark Sword because "we realized it's actually really weak" when the reality is that no one outside the /dsg/ circlejerk gives a shit to use it anymore since a stronger alternative was found.

>>152094323
Granted, I acknowledge the broken straight sword is better than a good 40% of the weapons in dark souls 2 but still why complain? Just unzip a good weapon yourself, fuck it. The reason I don't attend /dsg/ fight clubs anymore is that, people will complain about anything you use unless you're part of the circlejerk.

>It's okay because it's fudman
>It's okay to use a shield because he's using a Scythe
>It's okay because it's dietrich

I'm out.

>>152094313
you haven't even been in a recent FC, faggot

you lost once or twice to these people and whine about it nonstop, either get good or get out

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>>152094515
Time warp for me and see how many people actually did, and while you're there fight Dietrich and Ley too.

>>152094664
>It's okay to use a shield because he's using a Scythe
Are you implying that it isn't okay to use shields?

>>152094625
No, curved swords have always been cancer, ever since High Wall was the spot to go, it was just Storm King Sword back then

>>152093947
>BKGA
Qué?

>>152094850
He probably means the greatshields

>>152094850
It is if you're tryharding. I thought /dsg/ fight clubs were for fun.

>>152094834
no one complained about the dagger, just that quickstep was annoying to fight since it gave you absurd iframes

>>152094874
black knight greataxe

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>finally get enough stats to use Yorgh's Spear, Dragon's Tooth and Demon's Greathammer
>they suck compared to fucking Blacksmith and Craftsman's Hammers
>get enough vigor to wear Havel's set, shield and all and still have best rolls
>a stiff breeze shreds my health apart anyway

I don't understand.

>>152094664
Meant dark souls 3, fuck.

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>>152094860
But I'm talking about the Carthus. Carthus, Estoc, and Washing Pole were all fine and teetering on common-fodder, but once Dark Sword left the rotation in the DaS3 arms race and it became about those three, everyone started giving a million shits about those.

>>152094704
You're funny.

What weapons and armor am I allowed to use in FCs?

>>152095095
Uh, no, Dark Sword never left the rotation, straight swords are still top tier

the problem with DaS3 is that the weapon balance is so fucking bad even the tryhard pontiff shitters have moved away from darksword/wp/estoc/ccs because they're so braindead

>>152094996
>Craftsman's Hammer, the hammer with less range than a dagger is better than Dragon's Tooth
Why are you lying?
>defense doesn't work in pve
Again, why?

>>152093941
>If you roll away from someone in the other game, you don't expose your back and your roll attacks still come out the right way, even with a long sword.

I know, that's how it works in DS3 and DS3 has 8-way roll, which is also better than DS1's roll system.

At best your issue is with DS2's particular backroll and DS2's fucked up roll attacks, the latter of which you're rolling into the first problem because it makes that issue seem worse than it is. You're using the worst-case scenario to complain about a feature while ignoring that the feature was largely beneficial and further refined in a later game.

If I wanted to be a stickler I could mention that DS2's backstep was good enough to pretty much obviate backrolling anyways.

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Am i reading dsg or is this the fucking E! website?

STOP
T
O
P

RESPONDING TO HIM YOU FAGGOTS

REPORT HIM AND MOVE ON

>>152094996
You only need to understand that you are playing the worst souls game. No balance anywhere.

>>152095346
Dark sword did left the rotation because there are many SS superior to it. It'd be like using a falchion now, sure, it's using a great weapon class, but it's not CCS

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>>152095346
Straight swords are still top tier, but now the e-celeb dictated meta is to out-punish the enemy or outrange them: Carthus being good at both.

Fireden this general. See how everyone whines about Dark Sword while seeing pictures of some FCs, hell you might even see me there holding a CSS scot free.

>>152095354
>Craftman's/Blacksmith's Hammer
>wide swings with plenty of stagger
>Dragon's Tooth
>swing straight fucking down, leaving my ass wide open to the entire world and costing me 500k souls

>Havel's Set
>get hit once by NG+ mobs in Eleum Loyce
>1/4 my health is missing

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>>152095354

>>152095331
Anything that's not officially banned.

------- OFFICIAL /DSG/ FIGHT CLUB RULES -------

Rules:
>Must bow before fighting
>No gesturing after fight
>No hardswapping
>No changing to fast weapon if opponent gets on low health
>No changing weapons for riposte
>No hornet ring
>No leo ring
>No bloodring
>No prisoner's chain
>No HP regen ring
>No obscuring ring
>No Greatshields
>No Dark Sword
>No Estoc
>No BKG
>No BKGA
>No Warden's blades
>No Gotthard
>No Carthus Curved Sword
>No Claymore
>No Sellsword Twinblades
>No Fallen Knight armor
>No Thorns armor
>No parry spam
>No dragon roar
>No spin combo
>No parrying with caestus
>No simple weapons
>No blessed weapons
>No lightning weapons
>No more than 1 buff
>No straight swords
>No Caestus
>No thrusting swords
>No crossbows
>No Pestilent Mercury
>No Tears of Denial
>No bleed resin
>No prism stones
>No white branches
>No throwing knifes
>No dung pies
>No bombs of any type
>No using ashen estus
>No blocking for more than 2 seconds
>No attacking just as your opponent walks into range
>No backing away from your opponent
>No unlocked combat
>No R1 spam
>No roll spam
>No running attacks
>No losing, everyone is a winner
>No trying to win
>No winning, only play for fun
>No fun

>>152095669
Blacksmith is good, Craftsman is trash.
Without armor you'd lose 1/2 your health.

>>152095489
gotthards has more range, but less damage and no 2h option

you just don't see them as much due to range being so autismally focused upon

>>152091557
>twinblades
I wish we'd gotten the Horse knight set but I guess that can't be done since they're literal statues.
Oh well, I guess I gotta use a buffed Twinblade with Straid's set and pretend I'm Darth Maul