/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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Ohayou gozaimasu, /rlg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's play our best today!

2nd for chei

cum

>>151960895
I want to play a MuMo now
But I suck with monks

>>151961064
agreed

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So, should I AAA and pray for hat of the 15 runes or wands and pray for heal wounds?

>>151961519
The hat, heal wounds isn't going to save you

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>>151961596
Gods of acquirement didn't favor me too much but enough.

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This is fucking dumb.

In wizard mode I can enslave Geryon, Cerebov, Dispater, Lom Lobon, Mennas, Antaeus, but can't enslave random pan lords, even the one that's legitimately generated by orb run.

Does Qazlal's elemental summon work on clouds made by rod of clouds? Does his cloud protection work on them?

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First for Ukshawdiandw

Reminder for the rlgrobin accounts, which are used for all of us to make ourself better and all!
User: rlgrobin
Pass: ownfault

Reminder that one anon gotten a win yesterday on the rlgrobin account!

>>151962714
Explain to me what this rlgrobin thing is exactly

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Proposal to replace with howler leeches.

>travel in packs
>howl
>life draining bite
>they're coming

>>151963123
*replace swamp worms

Does Xom just randomly fuck with you even if you don't worship him now? I'm an abyssal knight and I got a message saying
>you feel as though Xom is toying with you
>The walls become transparent
Or is Lugonu and Xom somehow the same?

>>151962446
>enslaving Gloorx Blog

This party's about to get absolutely crazy!

>>151963385
it's a vault

>>151963123
Should also smite and malmutate.

Well I'm sad. Was able to tab through all of vault:5 until 1 single elf demonologist came through and summoned every hellfire hurler in existence.

>>151962714
And, as usual: the rlgrobin account on xtahua has a different password, "robin".

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>>151964542
You're welcome.

>>151962638
yes and yes, if anyone cares

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Should I follow my dreams and Berserk?
Will I have more fun like that than playing it safe.

>>151963080
Its just an acc to look out for incase youre bored and wanna see other anons play and to know that they are from here
Maybe someone can demonstrate something to play or whatever so you can learn

>>151965912
>dark maul
FAULT FAULT FAULT

>>151966080
I'm playing a Naga Be and found the Dark Maul.
The biggest fault would be to not use it.
Also even though I asked I'm not going to follow any advice and just go ahead and berserk anyway.

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>>151965912
You know, it might have been a thing if that was the door vault. Just imagine all the angry scorp dads outside, listening to Santana's Smooth while sipping on some nice corona. They'll get real sad when you start pounding their qt ghost moth and snatch their rune, so you probably just want to dip.

>>151965912
As long as you stay away from Idolmaster, anon.

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>>151964441
I'm a little sad they keep removing all the most terrifying enemies.

If they do add them, they usually just get removed one version later.

>>151966586
What are these terrifying enemies they've removed? Are you not spooked by shock wasps and juggalos?

>>151966681
>juggalos
What?

>>151966772
probably meant juggernauts?
they're the dumbest fucking enemy ever, literally nothing but a newbietrap
i sincerely hope they just get removed

>>151966579
>implying I'll ever leave Rin

>>151966772
Juggernauts. They hit ludicrously hard and can chase down a spriggan like no other. Easy tele if you see one, unless you can diesel through it. Also, you should be afraid of iron giants too.

>>151966997
>>151967125
Oh yeah. I find them scary. I've yet to play a version of the game with the iron giants.

>>151966681
blessed toes
ravenous mimics
phoenixes
spirit wolves (awoo)
shedus
sliver stars
Lamia
sharks

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>>151967041
Anime is shit.

>>151967460
Spirit wolves are actually back in. I never found phoenixes, sharks, or shedus to be a problem, since they didn't really hit all that hard. Ravenous mimics existed to fuck stabbers which was funny but also bullshit. Silver stars were actually bullshit. Literally never fought lamia or a blessed toe, so I can't tell you how I feel on those. I feel like all the new monsters are far spookier than the ones on your list, barring silver stars and their 1hko holy "Fuck the browns and their mutations" beam.

>>151967896
>blessed toe

Yeah you know scratch that one, seraphim are much more terrifying.

Sharks were a fun environmental hazard in shoals.

>>151966586
Caustic shrikes are still in the game.

>>151968159
Until they can breathe acidic fog, I will not fear.

>>151968649
How about an instant, smite-targetted, LoS range corrosion as an additional attack each turn.

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>>151961064
cum
on tum

>>151968782
>instant, smite-targetted, LoS range corrosion

Now that's just silly.

>>151968915
That little girl should put on some clothes. She is too young to be exploring dungeons.

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>>151962446
>In wizard mode I can enslave Geryon, Cerebov, Dispater, Lom Lobon, Mennas, Antaeus, but can't enslave random pan lords, even the one that's legitimately generated by orb run.
And this is why they don't allow Yred to go extended.
I fucking knew there is more to that wording, even though it's misleading as fuck since unrand panlords are usually more powerful than random ones.
>spicy strat of diving Hell early as an evo-focused Yredude and snatching Geryon AND his horn for double the hell beast summoning fun might be legit
Sweet.
>>151966586
Orc Priest Bees are pretty spooky.

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>>151968915
>loli tummy

>>151969329
>Orc Priest Bees are pretty spooky.

Yeah, they're pretty terrifying as is.

>always spawn in threes
>very fast
>smite smite smite smite smite dead

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fug xDDDD
bls stop

>>151970026
sorry it had to end like this

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>>151970026

>>151970026
Pop tele and hope for the best
Chug heal wounds if needed

https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e213fbe9c834
>Disable Pakellas

MarvinPA strikes again! Warned you!

>>151970026
Is that supposed to be scary for a **** piety trog worshipper?
Pop haste, bacl off a little, spam BiA + wands.
Ez exp.

>>151970798
I'm not surprised, Pakellas was pretty braindead and the unlimited wand charges even more so. What I'm surprised about is that he made his way into an actual release version.

One more reason to not play Deep Dwarves though.

>>151970798
rip 2pak

>>151971148
>What I'm surprised about is that he made his way into an actual release version
this

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>>151971060
Well he's playing a GrBe, arguably even babbier than Mibebabby.
I doubt good decisions are very high up on his list of priorities.

>>151970798
>They killed 2pak
Don't shed a tear for me, nigga, I ain't happy here
I hope they bury me and send me to my rest
Headlines reading 'disabled to removal', my last breath
Take a look, picture a crook on his last stand
Motherfuckers don't understand; if I die tonight

>>151971383
Word.

>>151970798
>Currently Pakellas is disabled pending a rework (or full removal), so characters currently worshipping Pakellas can still continue as normal.
Rework him into an alchemy-based god and re-introduce some of the stalker spells back as abilities unique to 2pak.
Piety gained on kills is also stupid for a god titled "the Inventive".
Maybe give him a zero piety ability that would allow players to mix 2 potions to produce a new potion, with a chance to lose both ingridients. So, piety gained from item sacrifices, essentialy, with a chance of producing something good.
Also bonus piety on ID-drinking potions, double piety from ID-drinking dangerous stuff like degeneration, poison or mut.

>>151971060
>>151971325
I know this general loves passive agressive insults but I honestly just posted the screenshot because I thought the situation was just fucked enough to be funny and not fucked enough I'd get infinite FAULT responses

>>151972124
____________________Git gud____________________

>>151972124
>the situation was just fucked enough
What? You have 30 AC and 15 EV using a blunt weapon as a beserker, what part of that situation is dangerous in the least?

>>151972124
>>151972560
Flash Freeze bypasses EV and being frozen slows movement, on top of doing a good amount of damage with no resistance

The hydra would have been pretty dangerous by itself regardless of my AC with my hp. Other than tele I had no choice but to stand and take it due to the slowing. The spiny frog and centaur just added insult to the injury

>>151970026
read your fuggin scrolls

>>151973370
No ?Blink or !Cancellation?

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>>151972124
You know what's really fucked? A pack of 5 orc priests on D:6. Well actually more like 2 orc warbands spawned on top of each other, but it's still pretty ridiculous.
But I won a lottery and got a cloak of invis from Yiuf the floor before, so free exp down my throat, I guess.

Should I still sit on 17.1?

>>151973641
I had cancellation, but I did have tele so I used that instead

The hydra's now apparently camping a staircase though

post features you want to see in dcss
new zealot background that lets you start with any god

>>151973984
Laundry

>>151973984
player race: giant spore

>>151973984
More zealots of the known gods roaming about. I want to see paladins of TSO or Abbots of Zin or Dozers of Chei.

>>151973967
You can take on 8-headed hydras at like level 5 as a berserker.

>>151973984
Race that is shortened Cu.

>>151974224
Cubiforms, small square constructs. As they level they gain additional sides. All 'die rolls' they make explode on the highest result possible, allowing them to roll an additional 'die' of the same number of sides and add it to their previous total.

>>151974224
I'm also not a berserker, to add

I wanted to get a lajatang before Zot and I didn't find Oka's altar somehow, so I just went trog. That's why my piety is so low

>>151974439
Sounds OP.

>>151974439
>Cubiform wants the orb to become "perfect", no sides as they have gained infinite amount of sides
>they take over the orb as they get it and become a sphere

>>151974710
But you're worshipping trog so you just have to berserk and you will beat the shit out of that hydra.
Or BiA, the best summoning spell in the game.

>slings +4

is it worth raising the skill more than the minimal attack speed requirements just for the damage?

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>>151974439
>Cubiforms, small square constructs.
Sounds like modrons, I like it.
But we all know anon just wants to win a CuCK run.

First for dicku-a-missu.

>>151975549
No.

>>151976059
You're history, dickuposter.
The thread has long been hijacked by tummyposters and lolifags.

>>151962638
the summon works but there's a cap to the number of summoned units based on invo so you can't just fill the screen with a massive army

>>151976342
That one guy actually did that with max invo though. It was his V:$ strat, and it was hilarious.

>>151976604
Was it a screen cap of using the immolation clouds?

>>151977739
Not super sure. I just remember him having a gorrillion elementals and saying that he should have just disaster area'd, but he made elementals instead because it was funnier.

>>151976059
F

>>151976185
>implying dicku's memory won't live as long as I mourn his loss

>>151971148
pakellas was cool when he was god of rods but they nerfed the shit out of that so he only ever gifted one

change him around IMO to have less focus on wands and more on rods

>>151978583
That was me. Those elementals did fuck all by the way and I should have just used more upheavals but it was more fun to have a small army of fire snakes standing inbetween me and all of vault 5.

>>151974439
>get exactly +1 slaying
>add d1 damage to every hit
>suddenly oneshot everything

>>151979620
Why? Why god that simply gifts rods should even be a thing?
You can easily get a bunch of rods from the minotaur and V:$.
It's just really not enough to justify that gods existance.

>Races dont have the be balanced with each other
>neither do gods (see trog+tso vs fedhas
>BUT AT NO POINT ARE ANY ALLOWED TO BE FUN
>nerfed hep
>removed 2pak
>chei now loses piety if you take it too slow

>>151974439
actually sounds cool

Do skalds start to feel stronger mid game? Because at the start they seem squishy as fuck and their damage is just meh. All of those charms you start with sound nice in theory, but in practice I don't feel like they give me any edge in combat compared to just picking a pure warrior class. Even with Song of Slaying (7) and Infusion and a shroud on, I still go down and i'm not really doing the massive damage I envisioned

>>151980089
Vaults is fucking mid to endgame
Rods as a viable playstyle was only possible when you could either get one from acquirement or when 2pak gifted them properly

>>151980291
by mid game every background except ench or the conjurey ones is the same anyways tbqh

>>151980291
No. They're one of the worst starts.

>>151980291
Spectral weapon was ruined and was the only good thing other than regen from the skald starting book

>>151980536
Wait really? What'd they do to it? Is it the "It only attacks when you attack thing?" I thought that seemed different than I remembered.

Why would they nerf Skalds, of all things? They were already pretty weak.

>>151967302
A little bit scary. A Vinestalker of Chei with ~20 UC and Statueform was brought down to 60% HP by just one, with no other enemies around. They have big HP, big AC, and they can apparently "throw" you with no chance to resist, which is basically "blink other away but you also lose HP".

>>151981064
The throw only ignores EV. Only.

>>151980885
It scales with spellpower instead of weaponskill now
which basically makes it trash for any non chei character that would use it

>>151981064
Throw does like 6-94 damage

>>151981421
it would be good for people who go heavy into charms for haste

iron giants literally can never catch you if you evoke feet

>>151981623
developer oversight

they were supposed to have mesmerize

>>151981623
i evoke my feet towards them so i can press tab sooner right?

>>151980885
http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=78c3604fc1a19436cce6d3e596663e1cfc642770

>>151981623
well yeah but the idea is to kill them
also >chei

>>151981998
Chei niggers either sling around full spellpower firestorms or smack the shit out of everything with 60+ strength at that point

>>151981623
>passing up XP

MASSIVE crawl extended overhaul coming in the next few days

Why is everything scary as a caster? I feel like I'm going to die at any moment.

>>151982192
those iron giants can actually mess up chei characters. If you don't kill them in a couple of hits, then they will irresistably throw you, then you are stuck with chei speed a few squares away while they iron shot you then throw you again.

>>151982660
lies

>>151982681
Because basically anything in the game can kill you if you make just 1 or 2 wrong moves. Casters have way less room for mistakes then Fighters. If a fighter positions himself wrong, he can waste a few turns to fix it, or just shrug off the attacks and survive anyways.

As a caster if you step in the wrong place you're probably not going to survive. Also there's the fact that your life relies entirely on mana

>>151982660
i feel like im in /vp/ or something right before a new game comes out

>>151982660
Source

How do I win as MiBe

>>151984672
o aa tab 5 repeat

>>151984765
but I did that and got killed by a giant

>>151984897
Keep going, you have to lose a certain number of adventurers to serve as easy ghost XP for the one that will eventually win

>>151980089
this

"God gifting X" is a very boring and bland design, see Sif Muna before trunk changes and to lesser extent current Okawaru.

>>151982660
[citation needed]

>inb4 it's just cutting down the length of the game by making either only Hell or only Pan appear

>>151985137
but he could do shit other than god gifting
device surge, maybe let players use rods from inventory, maybe give rod charge on kill, gift lots of rods... it would be more interesting than Vehu at least

>>151985137
I actually appreciated the yin-yang relationship between vehumet and sif muna, found it pretty fun flavor and mechanicswise.

And don't forget that sif's book gifting is just as powerful as her magic channeling and her miscast protection.

>tfw hasting and channeling back MP then spamming firestorm at 25% failrate with no fear

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>>151985336
Veh is shit as well and should be about eating brains of your foes and stealing spells, as a counterpart of Sif.

>>151985661
With the current piety gain and increased piety decay you either train some weapon skill/defences OR use channelling more than twice per branch OR get book gifts. Only one of these, because regenerating MP back to full without channelling takes 100+ turns every time.

which is easier? pan or hell?

>>151986431
Well, you can rest in Pan. So there's that.

>>151985865
Some gods are built to be passive, some gods are built to require lots of active interaction.

Vehumet is the more passive magic god, sif muna is the more active magic god.

I am speaking of .18 and before, because I'm not going to play the later versions. Shoulda stopped following them a while ago

>>151986563
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I sure fucking hate my life.

>have Hell
>have Pan
>have Abyss
Limbo, Mechanus, Acheron, Carceri, Gray Waste of Hades and the rest when?

>>151987004
>memegenerator
kys
What happened?

>>151986932
>I am speaking of .18 and before, because I'm not going to play the later versions.
Why? The good changes generally slightly outweigh the bad ones in my opinion.

>>151986431
Depends really. Hell is a constant, oppressive force that keeps you moving until you find the Archdemon and its rune. You'll find a whole bunch more irresistable shit crowding the halls of hell meaning you have to play very carefully but move quickly at the same time. It also gives good loot.

Pan gives you room to rest and typically gives you less shit that ignores your resistances. Its loot is generally worse. There are some layouts that are fucking awful and will kill you and you have to abandon and some that are so easy you can tabstorm through em. Random panlords aren't that hard unless you get absolutely fucked by their RNG spells. The unique pan lord though are the singular most dangerous enemies in the game though. They are much, much stronger than their respective Princes of Hell and will kill you for a single mistake. And you can never return to their rune if you decide to ditch.

Overall pan is probably easier by the point you get there but the unique pan lords provide one of the biggest difficulty spikes in the game.

>>151987150
Lol I didn't even see that in the corner
I made the mistake of giving uni a try and its painfully lonely and depressing as fuck To be fair though, wageslavery was lonely too. But at least I had my own place.

>>151987409
Oh shit, my bad. Thought this was /r9k/. Kekque. What char should I run next in DCSS? I wanna get my first 3 rune

>>151987230
Probably because the bad changes outweigh the good ones in his opinion.

>>151987339
shit lad
how about abyss
abyss is piss easy compared to hell and pan right

>>151987409
Its ok anon, you'll find your place. If you haven't found classes you enjoy yet, just keep on trucking. You'll find them eventually. At the very least, you always have us to come back to. That is something, albeit a small something.

>>151987562
Merfolk Gladiator of Qazloud. Get 14 polearms and 20 EV before lair, 20 invocations inside lair, and focus defenses and spears a little after that. Get 27 invocations by the end of your second rune. Use your god abilities (not the elemental one) aggresively to answer dangerous threats. The fireball one will kill hydras, disaster area will take care of all the dudes.

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>>151987562
I've said this a lot and will say this again: Yred + Polearms is piss easy once you acquire the second piety dot and get going.
Besides, Papa Yred and his servants love you
>your flayed ghost smiles at you!
>your flayed ghost says: "I will never leave you, master!"

>>151987562
Play FeAr to reflect your fear of uncertainty.

>>151987808
Yep. If you can get a dude through Zot you can get through the abyss. Play safe to try and not attract too many dudes at once but you could probably nab the rune if you're capable of nabbing the orb. Though I've heard that the difficulty spikes once you get into abyss 4 and 5 but i've never had to go there.

>>151987013
Holy branch when? Not that shitty and small holy pan. I want to make the edgiest char ever that whispers nothing pershenell kid and uses a super dark and edgy cursed weapon and doesn't believe in God(s).

>+++++ stealth
>zero levels on stealth

feels good

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>>151982681

It's not. For starters, you have AC

>>151987814
>Its ok anon, you'll find your place.

Don't lie to the poor boy.

>>151988408
Isn't there serious talk about a holy branch? There are enough monster types to populate it.

I've been away for while, has anything cool been added to CDDA?

>>151989496
Yeah, this real cool feature where you have to do laundry.

Currently abyss scumming. should I switch from throwing to crossbows?

>>151989496
You have to manually clip all of your toenails every three days or suffer massive morale and speed penalties.

There are also twenty-six new types of socks.

>>151989595
>>151989986
Well another try at MuMo it is then

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>>151989475
Basement dwelling is a place, too!

>>151989225
I'm very triggered by this image.

>>151989851

For reference. Triple crossbow of velocity +4 takes an average of 4 hits to kill a cacodemon at level 16 skill. +9 takes 3 average to kill one.

What's a fun roguelike.

>tfw shift-clicking sometimes closes the game
???

>>151990769
DCSS
it's not objectively the best game design, but god damn if it isn't the most fun to play

>>151990769
There aren't any

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This could be painful

>>151990453
hmmm I was thinking about hand crossbows because I use a shield tho
hellions in the future are what worries me the most. that's why I wanted some nice ranged attacks. also the reason I'm leveled up summoning school because summon butterflies

>>151966579
underrated post

>>151990974
Hand crossbows aren't really worth it over throwing.

>>151990769
>fun
stop using buzzwords

>Tfw nearly got a high elf skald of nuSif off the ground
Specrtral weapon is real good, but its also real shit.

>>151990974

That could be worth it if you have unlimited haste and that hand xbow is at +9. Level 16 skill would be certainly enough

>meet Quickling King in Dwarven Halls: 2
>was in the middle of digging killholes, so not very worried
>he wrecks me
>at 1/5th HP, escape
>come back with cowardly tactics and full health
>corner him in the killhole, hit him with a frost bolt
>he gets scared and runs deeper into the killhole
>chase him down
>"I bet that if I hit him with a lightning bolt, it'd wrap around enough times to finish him off"
>try
>lightning bolt hits me 3 times, bringing me to 1/6th HP
>burns up seven-league boots, pickaxe, then a bunch of useless potions
>doesn't even kill the quickling king
>retreat
>heal up
>come back, cast Web twice, catch the king, cast Burning Hands once, kill him
>he didn't even drop a body
I'm gonna miss those boots, but at least I know how to deal with Quicklings now.

>>151987409
>flunk out of college
>work at wendy's for four (4) years
>quit
>unemployed for a year
>get a job in retail
>promoted to keyholder after 10 months
>finally making over $10/hour
stay in school you god damn idiot

>>151991529
How did you splat anon?

Is there a penalty to attacking barehanded while wielding a ranged weapon on DCSS? It feels like there is, but on the other hand, there shoudlnt be.

>>151992137
>barehanded
>wielding a weapon
uhhh

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Should I switch from polearms?

>>151991440
>>151991573
hmm I do have unlimited haste and I do have shittons of scrolls of enchant weapon.

>>151991485
Wait, is throwing actually a useful skill? I always turn it off immediately, I thought it was just for lobbing stones at people early on. What else is there to throw? Darts are okay i guess, but they're not that common, same with tomahawks

>>151992103
The knife ear'd tree hugger isn't actually dead yet. The build has merely almost come to head. 1-2 floors away from lair, wearing a +2 MR robe and a longsword of draining. Almost at min delay, spell % is low and almost at sif's brain gain piety. Once I have enough exp to burn on getting spellpower up, it'll all be ogre. I even have the buckler for rock solid elf defenses. Oh, and I have mana vipers as a solid pickup for later.

>>151992226
No.

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>>151990958
Painful son of a bitch, didn't lose any demons though...now to escape

>>151992137
You play too much Angband. If you can fire a relatively primitive ranged weapon, you're not empty-handed

>>151992226
Ehh, it's just a dagger, even though it's +7.
I would not and only keep it with me in case of early unique with some dangerous spells.
Once you get an army set up, those will stop being a real problem.

what the fuck happened to death knights

>>151992371
>darts
anon, what version are you playing?

>>151992609
removed

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>>151992435
I got...too thirsty

>>151992609
Muh /tedium/ muh /design/.
Really, following that logic, every single one of fucking zealot backgrounds is obsolete.

>>151992938
>>151992823
fuck this stupid game

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>>151992857
The new six demon limit really increased the difficulty of the game..by an insane amount

>>151987013
Those areas are cool. I like how staying around the gray waste for too long turns your character gray

>>151992371
>darts
jesus christ anon

>>151992371
darts don exits
Javelins, especially javelins of penetration, are quite good.
the newer versions are fun anon, i swear

>holy beings and demons don't fight eachother
>let's us join forces and attack this human worshiper of Zin instead!

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>>151993661

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>>151992371
Ruks pack quite a punch, and oka gives you them in a bulk.
ruks
RUKS

>>151992371
what else are you going to use for ranged if you have a shield? slings? please.

>>151993478
Not him, but I hate most of the changes, despise the removals, and love the additions. If it wasn't for Vinestalker, Formicid, Qazlal, Uskayaw, buffed UC, non-dumb methods of EXP distribution, and buffed Demonspawn, I wouldn't play newcrawl at all.

>>151994138
>actually going Usk
Fucking lolifags get out

>>151991919
Elona right

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>>151994532

>>151994838
No, ADoM (western Elona).

>>151993075
yea dude, shit sucks

>>151994998
What's the appeal of ADoM? It feels so shitty, the magic system is AD&D-tier if not worse, the God system is shit, I just can't find any redeeming features about that game.

>>151995175
flavor
troll archwizards

>>151995175
It lets you become a physical god, then a literal one. I like games that allow you to become ridiculously overpowered, especially when it's unintentional and you can only do it in older versions.

>>151995457
Wait, really? Which version? I want to become a god.

>>151995457
Continue.

Uskayaw is such a fucking retarded god what the hell is the point

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>>151993075
Now that I know a bit more about the new version I need to be a bit more selective of my abilities... healing factor, choking veil?

>>151995626
Git gud. Tab through V:5

>>151995674
choking veil seems kinda meh, while free regen is p good
If you were doing a veil tank build, choking veil means you'll be doing less DPS but also means you'll be getting hit less.

>>151996407
Well considering I have ice breaker, I'll be auto killing things sooner than normal, and because of chill delaying turns and reducing stats

>>151995529
>>151995558
1.1.1
Back then, you could increase whatever stats you wanted, unlimited by race. Back then, you could abuse sickness and stat-lowering items to get easy stat points. Back then, you could find ~10 crystals of knowledge and become super smart. Back then, you could get infinite wishes through dipping brass rings into potions of exchange. Back then, you could bookcast Wish for as long as you wanted, if you were built correctly. Back then, you could gamble as much as you wanted to without worry of corruption or starvation. And that's only the stuff I remember.

Also, the "literal god" part is about the Chaos god/Order god/Avatar of Balance endings.
>>151995361
My brother.
>>151995626
Supertab.

>>151996723
Crawl is becoming so streamlined that they're adding gods where you have to do literally nothing but tab, you don't even have to activate abilities

>>151997217
>implying you can move with just tab and nothing in your view

>>151997323
>implying O and 5 won't be integrated into tab soon enough

DEFE^Vehumet, I'm about to train melee to mindelay.
Which one should I use, or should I wait for better weapon ?

a. +2 lajatang of elec (must be bought first for 544 gold)
b. +12 dagger of Jiumm {drain, *Rage, Dex+8}
c. +3 dagger of elec
d. whip of elec

>>151998086
Lajatang.

>it's an I find every single altar except the one i'm looking for episode

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Okawaru is so nice.

rlgrobin on CBRO

>FoFi of no god yet, drunk as shit

>>151999084
>it's a "no jiyva altar until slime:6" episode

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>>151999141
>ruk
>2 javelins (steel) quivered
THIS IS NO RUK
WHERE IS RUK

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>>151999306
I save them for the real deal. I ain't wasting precious RUKS to kill rats.

>>151999541
Good.
Cherish the ruk.

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>>151999142

>>151999142
lmao. i changed tab to see that commit and splat.

>>151999142
>Visions of slaying the steam dragon flood into your mind. You cannot move away from the steam dragon!

>>151999224
Funny, i just died and again got a temple with every god except the one I wanted, but 3 to jivya

>>151997982
5 is already integrated into o

it would be pretty easy to have a lua snippet for "if any enemies visible, o, otherwise tab"

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o-okay then

>>152000787
just tab it

>>152000787
ez scum
tab until it hits you, <5>, repeat

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>>151999306
STOP LEWDING LOLIS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>151998086

enjoy your literal waste of exp

>>152001402
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
howd you know that's a loli?
got something to tell us friendo? :)

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>>152001402

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>>152000787
>carrying wand of create ice juggernaut
>carrying wand of haste enemies

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THESE DOGS

>>152002078
I've seen this crop like 20 times and even saved it but I would actually like to know the source.

anyone here play realm of the mad god?

>>152001651
>smol
>bunny backpack
onii-senpai...

>>152002323
Not a roguelike, m'boy.

REMINDER: if you play DCSS with ascii instead of tiles you're a fucking hipster loser

>>152002290
sorry anon i just saved it from /rlg/ too

>>152002617
i play dcss tiles but other rougelike in ascii
dcss is like the one rouge like where the tiles are better

>>152002617
>changing how ive done things for years because some anon in /rlg/ thinks im not cool
no

>>152002617
>not playing DCSS with your ears

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Seems safe, right guys? Probably just stole some eldritch horror's hair accessory.

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>>152002712
I bet the faggot that cropped it was that alcoholic pollack that is now in going through a "treatment" in that concentration camp for drunkards god fucking damn it.

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>>152002138
I take it Artemis is just flat out better than the deer huh

>>152002960
why do you think polandanon is alcoholicanon? surely in his country that's a normal condition and not "send him away to live in a camp"-tier

>>152002960
>becoming a tibetan monk
>not good for roguelikes
>not good for posting on a tibetan woodcarving board
????

>>152003272
I bet Tibetan monks play roguelikes with just their mind anyways.

>>151929687
>But shouldnt everything be free to use because of GPL?

My understanding about that particular snafu is that the GPL (or the GPL version they're using, maybe?) only covers the code, not the art assets. I think? that's why they have to have the tiles licensed separately with CC0.

I don't really know what their deal is exactly, but it's explicitly stated within their license.txt that some of their tiles do not have proper licensing from the authors to be used in other projects.

>>152003196
DEM TITS
DAT VIRGINITY
Hell yes she's better than some shit deer. If you get the revelation relic upgrade, just spam that on her and she will be dank as fuck

>>152003223
Well he said there are a lot of treatment centres for that kind of purpose in Poland and I believe he also said he was a slav, so I just assume he's also a pollack.
>surely in his country that's a normal condition and not "send him away to live in a camp"-tier
He went there on his own accord.

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>>152002929
Alternatively, it's a pointed, stone rod that attracts attention and charms those you use it on.

Pretty sure it's the remnants of a caveman rock concert.

>>152003547
Tell me you killed that giant fly.

>>152003403
I think it's kinda weird for this dev to make such an obvious decision between the two, it's pretty much a no brainer

>>152002768
there was a point in time where you hadn't played DCSS before and you had to make a choice, ascii or tiles. And you chose ascii and that makes you a hipster loser.

>>152003749
Yea, but I guess there might be some niche cases where you might go with Actaeon. Maybe you want to use his modifier in some way, or maybe linking with Artemis will fuck up your positioning and could kill you.

>>152004092
>tfw chose tiles because hated ascii
>now okay with ascii ever since DDA

>>152000787
can you net oklobs?

You should be able to net oklobs then use a wand of digging to uproot them. Then drop them later on and use a wand of enslavement on them. If non-nemelex followers can use decks, then why can't non-fedhas followers use plant power

>>152004092
I start with tiles and moved to ASCII since it's way faster overall

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>>152004092
Way back, during the ~.06 days, tiles were hideous and also misleading: there weren't as many zombie tiles as there are today, so everything from rats to hydras used the same tile: a zombie-esque human. At that point, ASCII actually conveyed information more efficiently than tiles.

It's no excuse nowadays though

>>152004264

This

>>152004465
The objective benefit to ascii is a faster online connection. The objective benefit to tiles is more information available on the screen. With tiles, you can at a glance see what status effects are on a monster, what terrain the monster is over, and what kind of cloud the monster is standing in. When you have multiple monsters on the screen, it really helps to be able to ascertain all that information quickly.

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>>152003196
Lost my psychic slime but gained Artemis.

>>152004269
>If non-nemelex followers can use decks
anon...

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Hope it's good

>>152004495
>stairs are still the same tile that even etrian odyssey uses

>>152004269
>use a wand of digging to uproot them
!!! BEWARE THE NETHACK COST !!!

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>>152005337

Alright holy shit looks like it's telling me to win

>>152005508
Electrical energy is the best.

>>152005337
Ichor? I hardly knew her!

>>152005337
Ashenzari warns you: it is

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>>152005003
Fuck I am hating these changes, it really seems like you're being pigeonholed into doing very specific builds if you want to be a melee dude, it's even worse with the new strength mechanics.

>>152007948
I thought nuStrength made melee easier

>>152004687
I play faster with console though.

>>152008039
>Balance Changes
>- Strength’s bonus now adjusts non-status condition damage taken by characters. (Yes, characters with low bonuses will take additional damage.) Several stat tables for relics and characters have been adjusted to account for this change.

Considering I went ice hand, I started with really high magic but low str, with a melee range move, so I was taking tons of damage from melee, and most of my level up points went to str to try and reduce this, because of this I had absolutely shit agility and missed half the time, and because I couldn't tank hits for shit it made recruiting certain demons extremely difficult (deer, asrai), the latter of which I couldn't even get, not to mention the fact that with currency and a six demon limit, there could be a demon you want, but already be full of demons who have abilities you want to copy to others (or want to fuse them), in which case you're kinda fucked and have to make a choice between two shit decisions.

>>152008175
I play faster just reading the source code and running simulations in my mind.

>>151993478
>darts don exits
Are blowdarts that bad?

>>152008692
they're needles

>>152008381
Oh I see. I guess that change does fuck over melee-ranged magic, I haven't played the new version much. But you also have to deal with the reduced demon capacity which sucks, you're getting a lot of changes thrown at you. You should mention that on the forum, the hand of the dead relic is basically melee-ranged magic so it must play like shit now.

>>152008808
Those words are synonymous though. At least in the context of crawl.

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The folly, I had some MR+ gloves and I forgot that they meld in statue form, brought me from +++ to ++

>>152009502
What is this sexy ass UI?

>>152009631
this is local tiles, as opposed to webtiles

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You can actually chop one of lerny's heads with an elec brand?

>>152009929
>27-head hydra
Oh shit what

>>151956319
All it does is cut some piety. As long as you're killing a lot you can train to 27 magics and cast it occasionally.

>>151959720
It's alright if you're using a launcher and you're already getting an ass ton of hexes for mass conf or whatever. Haste/finesse/slow/bend time/blink/conf/mass conf/cause fear really help extend its usefulness. Otherwise no.

>>152009929
It would have split into more but it died from the strike. Elec stuff doesn't cauterize.

>>152008682
I don't even see the code anymore, all I see is Ijyb, Grinder, Sojobo...

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Welp, couldn't get headless...and my kasha died...goddamn jumping vampires...but we're still alive, so yay

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Can I convert this fellah

>>152010696
>8 spectators
Wew

>>152010108
that's what I did with leda's liquefaction, was use temporal distortion+bend time with my triple crossbow. It was finnicky but fun

>>152009929
>>152010140
cauterizing hydra necks with fire weapons is pretty nethackish T(o) B(e) Desu(Honest) senpai(tn: senpai means family)

>>152009481
They weren't a few years ago, in the version that anon is playing.

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>mutate rF++ from skybeast flesh
>find this ring

what a lucker mother fucker

>>152010749
On the subject of spectators

I've been wondering, was anyone from here watching me that day when Hep came out and I made a VpMo?

>>152011284
>-20% HP
Yeah that sure was lucky anon. Glad it paid out for you.

>>152011487
I try to be a glass half full kind of guy, you know?

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let's see how this works out

worst case - he kills us all with his grenade launcher

>>151982681
Enchant your good auxes so you have ~20AC and get more evasion. Or just take chei and scimitar tab between fire storms

>>151990769
Sil, Infra Arcana, and Forays into Norrendin are great. Brogue, crawl, CDDA, Elona+ have their moments.

>>151992609
>>151993021
Removed cause muh novel experience of just waiting for your altar between floors 1-9.

>>151999750
Google had nothing, source?

>>152010696
You can but since it looks like you failed your notice conversion roll I think you only have a chance when you kill him now. I heard he got some resurrection thing too?

>>152011487
coward

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has there ever been a bigger death flag

is Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80's a roguelike?

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>>152012065
alright our orc messiah is clocking out to sleep off alcohol poisoning

if anyone wants to take over be my guest

>>152012065
>>152012285
Use all your haste, invisibility, and heal wounds to keep him alive. Git him dat fukken farm

>>152012285
is this build still garbage? I can't see anyone doing more than a 3 rune run with that crap.

>>152012612
yeah beogh is 3rune but if you wanted to go further then TSO is still an option

>>152012923
buff beogh

http://www.googlefeud.com/

>>152010015
someone has never collected the swampy rune before~

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This is going really, really well.

>>152014010
What is Demon's gimmick anyway?

Is it minion management?

>>152014095
fun

>>152014095
Why not try it and see for yourself

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>>152014010
Which one?

Took titan's fist, block physical+heavy guard then bull rush. Spliced in block slash, piece, and impact. Dunno really where to go from here.

>>152012923
Beogh's fine in 5-runes. In extended you'll keep getting dudes gifted. It's kind of dicks but you'll still get a respectable amount of bolts of fire/smites while they last. I heard beogh got a follower cap so you can't recall bomb much anymore

>>152014095
Pokemon/isle of dr moreau, a lot of customization and frustration I'd imagine.

>>152014095
What is DCSS' gimmick?

>>152014654
Diehard is good if you can get Headless, Malleable+healing factor is a strong combination, I find blocks to be too situational if they only block one thing IMO, something like stone stance would be good though, maybe try to get juggernaut from an Ogre or something, or oppressor if you've a ton of vit, also mob cover

>>152014642
cap up nigga

>be all MiBe and clearing so fast and getting as far as I have ever gotten
>finally in lair
>Trog decides to give me a double sword
>get volcano
>find a triple sword
>not a few moments later
>get to Shoals
>start taking damage like no tomorrow despite berserk
>get fucking killed by a merfolk impaler with demon trident of draining
What the fuck? Why was that shit so strong?

>>152014947
>Demon trident
>of draining
lol idk

>>152014947
Because crawl devs only listen to the opinions of people who have won the game dozens, if not hundreds, of times.

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>>152014743
>>152014743
DCSS's gimmick is powerleveling. Used to be a decently tough grind, but now it's just an ego stroking powerlevel machine.

Also should I? Got a wand of heal wounds

>>152014947
Cause he's pretty accurate relative to his place in the game and does upwards of 37 damage a hit?

>>152015041
>tfw the devs remove stuff that bullies their butt buddies speedruns too hard

>>152010015
Yeah, Lerny almost guards most of the rune vaults in swamp and starts with 27 heads. He's actually less dangerous then you would assume. He doesn't' have a whole lot of HP so he can be stabbed or dps raced by high AC characters or just sniped from afar if you're not surrounded by water.

>>152015072
Yeah, just play carefully. You can usually get a sack of good shit out of it, just remember to drop a bunch of stuff and I think you needed digging/disint or flight for a couple layouts.

>>152015179
it's an armour trove. Normally would be really good, but I'm going statue form, so I have to pass up this armour of the dragon king and CPA

>>152014947
Did you go into Shoals as soon as you saw it? If so that's a big no-no. Shoals is the hardest lair branch for a number of reasons and you shouldn't consider lair branches until you clear all of lair and orc.

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>Sniper in V:4
>cBlink in stash
>5 cmuts
>good stats and now this

I got this m'ladies

>>152015072
Its absolutely hilarious to hear newfriends arguing new Crawl is easier than old Crawl.

>>152014947
Shoals are a very high damage place.

>refugee center location is practically half around the world
Every time.

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DON'T SEND YOUR MELEE DUDES TO FIGHT IRISH GHOSTS

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>>152016362
oh my god

>>152015092
Shit, really? Wouldn't have known that.

>>152015383
Yeah. It was my first time, so it was now or later anyways. I figured it would be just as easy as the other places since I was taking little to no damage.

>>152016223
Even after those merfolks? They jumped me right at the entrance.

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>>152016507
>Main melee dudes max hp is piss right now
>she walks up
this is fine.

>>152016087
It is easier though.

>>152016609
>I figured it would be just as easy as the other places
HAHA No. Crawl appears to be a lot more open than it actually is. Crawl is super linear as limited by difficulty. Clear lair into orc into dungeon into lair branches into vaults then depths then zot. Anything else is superfluous. And likely more difficult than anything on the required path excluding zot.