/evn/ - English Visual Novels

What are your progress goals for this weekend?

What do you plan on doing to ensure you meet them?

>>151577783

Finish editing this scene

Finish editing this scene

>>151577783
>write

>uninstall 4chan app

I hope I do it.

Should I bump today?

Maybe not.

>>151581979
Why not anon? Were you touched when you were a kid?

>>151582506
It's dead right now. The lesbos aren't here as well, yet.

>>151577783
To become my own artist

Draw 5 hours a day for the next year

>have cute OCs
>no story for them that isn't a paint by numbers trope

sad

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Hey you guys know Renpy right?

I tried to modify Just Deserts but I keep ending up with this thing. Any idea what is causing it?

>>151577783
>What are your progress goals for this weekend?
I wrote a script for the engine I'm making, using some features that it doesn't have yet. I won't get all of those implemented in just a couple days, but I'll work on some of them.

>>151583905
Hey, those gals are cute. I have to play this game now.

>>151583905
What version is this senpai? It looks like a totally new developer tool.

Get one commission a day.

I need to live. ;_;

>lower-right abdominal pain
>too sudden onset for appendicitis
>didn't migrate from the bellybutton

I was worried I would have to stop writing and go die but it seems to be okay

nailed it

>>151584441
Portfolio please.

>>151584441
How do you shill yourself?

>>151584897
I try to lurk here to see if there are devs looking for an artist. So far not much luck. Too rekt to function in social media so I'm trying to help out over here.

>>151584606
>tfw no proper portfolio because most of my works are not supposed to be released publicly.

I'm currently finishing this one person's work if they allow me to post it here I'll show it.

>>151585054
What are your prices?

>>151584441
>1 per day

I just sent my client a background + night variation.
Finished sketch for 2 different draft.
Currently doing line art for a CG project, suppose to finish 5 of these linearts today and if one of the draft I just sent earlier got replied I will get back to it.

>>151584897
Shamelessly.

>>151585153
How do you get into background art? I want to get into it, but I'm not really sure what people look for.

>>151584596
>not writing until death anyways
Come on, it's like you don't want to make it

>>151585054
>Work
I mean character. My brain is melting with all the saliva and boobs I'm highlighting atm.

>>151585115
80-100 per cg. Depends on how complicated it is.
120 for nsfw anything (except furry not that I hate it but I just can't into it)

Price set of 400 for a a character's sprite, including character pose changes and expressions.

>>151585153
I envy your prolific routine anon. Good for you.

>>151584134
I have no idea. I just downloaded it from IGG-Games.

>>151585789
>Price set of 400 for a a character's sprite, including character pose changes and expressions

That seems like kind of a lot honestly, but you may be doing more poses than I'm imagining

>>151585902
I really depends on how many poses a person want on that character. Also depends on what kind of poses.

I'm pretty flexible.

>>151586015
You sound like a pretty good artist.

>>151586065
You decide on that anon. I just gotta finish this one first and maybe ask permission on the owner if I can use it as a sample.

>>151586172
It's interesting you can get work without a proper portfolio. You doing it for a pal's pal or something?

>>151585789
>400
I have never seen anyone in the evn scene charge that for a sprite, so I really want to see this art now.

>>151587070
I don't recall someone charging 400 right off the bat by the time I was doing the sprite prices study, but then again, it might be a custom package for that particular commissioner lol.

>>151586626
No. I just drew what they wanted on the spot to see if they liked what they saw. They liked it. So I decided to finish it for them. They already agreed on the price so I'm trying my best to make it worth their money. Honestly they were easy to talk to, they know what they want and I like that in a client.

10/10 will draw for them again.

>>151587070
I'll try to ask permission later anon. If they won't let me I'll put up samples of my own. Which, btw, really should have been done first. I'm pretty stupid like that.

>>151587070
I've paid that rate before, although in my case it was mostly my naivety and not the quality I was paying for.

>>151587070

Decided to check lemasoft for sprite prices.
It's not that uncommon apparently.

https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=39849

>>151585054
That's what you get for not finishing your milf vn

>>151587663
>implying it's not another yuri vn

>>151587728
milf yuri vn

>>151587663
>not saints vn

>>151587558
that clearly says 6 sprites with 5 expressions each. $400 for a single sprite is crazy unless there's a lot of outfits and poses.

CANNOT CONFIRM 400 USD PER SPRITE.
I have failed, /evn/. Tell me to go back coding shitty RPG frameworks.

>>151588230
>including character pose changes and expressions.

>>151588403
>ren'py "coder"
>shitting on artists
Never change.

>>151588230
I worded that wrong. I meant that I will do different poses for one character, meaning it's variations, not corrections. It's not just one sprite. Fuck it. My brain's too fried atm sorry for that.

>>151588572
Please. I am a writer, programmer and an artist. I can shit on whoever I want.

>>151588403
Not per sprite. It's a misunderstanding because of poster's shit engrish. >>151588594

>>151588572
Would scripter be a more appropriate term for someone who's trying to control what Ren'Py is gonna do on runtime?

>>151588594
What kind of tablet and program do you use I wonder

>>151588667
>not a composer too
pleb

>>151588667
Post your story, your game, and your art then, fag.

>>151588793
Yeah, never tried music and shit. It looks like way more work than the other three though so it's fine, I guess.

>>151588762
copy-pastier would be the correct term.

>>151588974
Tracer-senpai is that you?

>>151589018
Cheers luv

Draw me some slavic waifu squatting.

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>>151589541

>>151589541
i can draw gaping asshole with anime eyes?

>>151589672
Up to you senpai.

So, what's the future for /evn/?

>>151590128
create games that at least allow me to pay my mortgage until i die

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>>151589541

>>151590213
i came

>>151590128
Prognosis based on recent trends indicates our future is to become a lesbian hook up service.

>>151590168
post more elves

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>>151590356
>tfw no lesbo dev to lesbo dev with

>>151590505
Will you be satisfied with my boipussy instead ?

>>151590573
but you poop from there!

>>151590505
Oh please anon. I was practically begging in the last thread. No one wants a puffy haired weirdo lesbo like me. ; _;

>>151591070
post your hair

Oh no, what have I done...

>>151591070
Are your eyebrows thick too

>>151591226
>summoning the thirsty dykes
I hope you get sodomized by a pig

what's puffy hair? black afro?

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>>151591161
>>151591275
>>151591460

I'm starting to give up hope anyway. I guess all I have left are muh 2d waifus

>>151592273
Post some lewds with your waifus

>>151592273
Oh hey! I recognize that color, density and stroke!

>>151593392
name and shame?

>>151593392
But anon this is the first time I used this color and setting.

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>>151592273
are you ayano from harem protag

lonely, horny, developing visual novels

Should I become bread anon?

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From https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=28513

> $333 per episode
> 50,000 ~ 70,000 word count

So about 333$/60,000 words = $0.00555 per word or $5.55 per 1k words.

Holy fucking shit.

How can I get writers for that cheap myself?

>>151595320
>https

Anyway, maybe they'll drop somewhere along the way.

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>>151592918
I want a waifu who will teach me vn and programming stuffs. ;_;

>>151594632
No. Unfortunately.

>>151595447
We only have lesbos here and copy-pasters.

>>151595320
why are you looking at some old ass thread like that?

>>151595447
This made me smile. You will find your dev waifu one day, anon.

>>151595447
>who will teach me vn and programming
I'm still offering my professional ren'py boipussy

>>151595828
That is my only wish. Well, that and make yuri games with her. That would be fun.

>>151595971
I'm sorry anon.
>Inb4ciscum

>>151590505
>>151591070
Goddammit people, go be thirsty somewhere else

>>151599190
But where else can one go to find lonely evn devs?

>>151599296
>>>twitter

>>151599296
Why would you want an evn dev from a place where everyone regularly shitpost one another into the ground? You'll hook up, show them your work, and on the outside they'll say it's amazing, but on the inside they'll wonder why, out of all the devs, they had to hook up with YOU.

>>151599657
>tfw I'm a sincere dweeb who just want to make games with another grill.

I really don't come here to shit post. I'm just here to shill and look for THE ONE.

>>151599863
>VN
>games
HERE WE GO

hi

>>151599657
>Why would you want an evn dev from a place where everyone regularly shitpost one another into the ground?
Because shitposting is fun? Especially with someone you love.

>>151603458
Love me

Why is writing the script so slow. Feels like I've been writing this one forever and still not even 40k words.

>>151603928
wait until programming, you will ask yourself: "Why is copy-pasting so slow?".

>>151604213
and before that is editing the script, trying it make it sound even somewhat good.

>>151603928
put tons of inane filler and long descriptions of the sunset and what the main character thinks about god and the universe as he gazes into the sunset

>>151604668
How much of inner monologue is too much?

oo
stripper with a booger
oo

I've been wanting to write a VN for a long time now. I'm not an actual writer, though that's what I wanted to do as a kid, growing up I kinda just stopped thinking about that. Most of the writing I did was in school. In the last few years I've tried a few times but I usually give up after a while.

I fear I'm a bit overambitious with my idea for how much experience I have, but at the same time when I tried doing smaller stuff in the past I've always stopped because I felt like I was just wasting effort and time on something I didn't feel motivated for in the first place. But at the same time I feel like even if I proceed with my big ideas, my lack of experience will make me produce something not very good and after a while I'll give up.

I'm sure this is common for many would be writers. Anyone here has advice, experiences etc to share about this?

This time I'm thinking of just going balls deep into this idea I have and see how much I last (of course, in case it was not clear I don't work with any team or anything, just writing stuff by myself).

>>151607391
Just become ren'py programmer.

>>151607391
Read a lot, then start writing the story you really want to tell. Once you hit 300k words, go back and fix all the amateurish mistakes you made at the beginning. Be critical with your own shit but also fair, or you'll end up rage-deleting everything like a shitty 14 yo throwing a tantrum.

>>151607391
It's alright. You can do it anon. BELIEVE.

It's not dying.

>>151612383
Yeah, that would be extremely shameful.

>>151612494
I'm now conflicted as I wish to be shameful.

>>151607391

Don't start with a VN.

4/5 VN projects go nowhere because 1 or more people on the team don't pull their weight, and no one takes charge kicking them. You don't want that.

Spend a while learning the basics of how to write - showing characterization, avoiding purple prose, and chopping out boring and unnecessary fluff. It'll make you a better writer, and it'll show you whether you have the passion needed to keep at it. If you quit after four weeks, you've avoided wasting other peoples' time on a real project.

Once you're happy you have some ability, go and find a team to join. Odds are high it will fail, but it'll give you a grounding in the most important part of making a VN - realizing that your team mates are shit and how to deal with that (spoiler: kicking them). There's usually 2-3 good people on a given team, so use the opportunity to figure out who they are and make some connections.

Your project lives and dies by your team - if half of them don't work, your project fails. Find good and reliable people who don't create drama, and cherish them. Then get to work.

Good luck.

>>151615517
Wow, you sounds so wise.
How many vns you've made ?

>>151615743
Not them, but I stand by everything they said and I've made three VNs so far. A lot more projects that didn't get complete due to the exact reasons they mentioned.

>>151615918
Steam link to any of your vn?

Link to any of your steamy VN?

>>151616083
>>151616137

Not that anon, but

>need to have steam to make vns

Is this some sort of new meme I missed after months away?

>>151616257
How'd you sell your vn? itch is a joke.

>>151616362
humble bundle store :^)

>>151616362
Can't someone just make a VN for the sake of making a VN?

>>151616496
gog
:)))))))

>>151616496
How do I register as a developer on Humble ?

unrip

Let's see - today on the menu I have some coding, minor effects and I'll probably start drawing a bigger cutscene. I'm not going out this weekend, so I will hopefully acomplish all my goal. Gods of VNs, please give me the strenght.

>>151621850
>ren'py
>coding
Post minor effects at least, copy-paster.

New trailer for HRP just dropped.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TD4GtZLkUcQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD4GtZLkUcQ

Why doesn't your EVN have a proper japanese OP?

>>151624003
i'm a racist

>>151624003
How does a team jump from americana to weeb shit in a single release gap?

>>151624003
>>151623995

>Brags about their unique setting and not doing a Japanese High School
>Features Japanese High School students with a generic Japanese OP

Nice.

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>>151622392
By minor effects, I meant graphic effects.
Coding may be a bad word for this, but it's still a chore to type all those lines and dialogues in. I hope I'll type in at least 5 pages of script today

Is stock music ok

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>>151623995
>bothering to make a new trailer for a shitty, free game with mostly negative reviews
literally_why.jpg

>>151625784
Anon, HRP isn't Driftwood

>>151625913
sorry im very high
i wanna make a meme pic for HRP now
but that would involve actually playing the demo

>>151626025
I don't advise doing so, their demo was not very well written. I believe they've learned since then though, so I hope HRP is good.

(concerned backer)

>>151609185
Thanks, and yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

>>151609625
Thank you anon!

>>151615517
I said in my post I don't (and don't plan to) work with a team for this reason. I don't want to be part of a team to make a VN. I want to write my VN. You don't need a team to complete a script and put in on ren'py.

The only time I'm gonna contact other people for art and other stuff is after I've finished writing, if I get to that point (hopefully it happens this time!).

>>151626370
>I believe they've learned since then though

You must not have read Highway Blossoms.

>>151626370
>their demo was not very well written
which is why it needs to be given proper tribute

>>151626645
>The only time I'm gonna contact other people for art
Oh you poor, sweet summer child. Enjoy your journey into the depths of Hell.

>>151626862
I don't think there were any horrible lines like there are in Driftwood, it was just boring. Maybe I'm forgetting them though.

>>151627040
Explain?

>>151627042
I heard they used cringey outdated memes in it?

>>151627205
They had memes in their joke mode of Highway Blossoms but I think that's it

>>151627187
There is no way the only time you're going to have to contact others is to hire an artist. This is what starry eyed nodevs think. There are going to be things that you cannot possibly achieve on your own, that you will have to rely on others for. There will be circumstances you cannot control, no matter how much you may want to. Take it from me, I used to be just like you before I actually started development. It is nothing but a ride into Hell, and the only way is downhill.

>>151627668
Also trying to find an artist that isn't scum is impossible, the sooner you accept that the easier it gets. There are only different kinds of scum, so pick your poison wisely.

>>151627668
Well, can you make any examples to make me understand?

>>151627813
does everyone have horrible experiences with artists or why do you always talk about them like they are cheating bastards?

>>151628096
>does everyone have horrible experiences with artists
Personally, I've had lots. I can count on one hand the number of times I didn't have a bad time with an artist.

>>151628096
The delusional, overconfident ones are cheating bastards. The rest have crippling psychological problems (depression, social anxiety, bipolar, etc.) where they suddenly stop working and disappear off the face of the earth.

>>151624003
because it has a proper goth rock OP.

>>151628096
reminder that ML anon had to switch artists because the one who did the first sprites had an identity crisis, changed sex and disappeared from the internet.

>>151627882
Alright, you asked for it:
>figure all I need to start project is an artist, I can handle everything else myself
>find one, pay them, assume I have nothing to worry about now
>but they're slow as fuck
>I'm talking takes 6 months to deliver on 3 singular sprites slow
>development is crawling along at a snails pace because of this
>talk to them about it and they tell me that I can't rush them if I want good quality
>go into denial and tell myself they'll pick up the slack when it comes to the CG work
>they take 2 months to deliver a single CG
>all this time I've been searching for a replacement artist which was an uphill battle in its own right
>finally find one
>pay them
>coming up to a month now and they're still working on the first CG
In comparison to this, finding the background artist/musician/programmer/GUI artist was relatively painless.
But I could have just as easily experienced any multitude of issues with all of the above. There's just no guarantees in game development.
It's like trying to climb a hill whilst constantly having things thrown at you to make you fall back down. You either pick yourself back up
and start climbing again, or you give up and call it a day. That's the way it is.

>>151629126
Well I understand that but I don't get how it's related to what was getting talked about before.

>>151624003
Do they have a different artist for the male characters?

>>151629704
Well then I'll look forward to your project in 20XX.

>>151629704
The gist of what they said it "working with freelancers is hell because you have no idea on how things are going and no way to enforce a schedule regardless of how much you pay, and even those without obvious red flags could turn to shit at any time".

>>151624003

>1:18-1:19
>Two drastically different styled CGs right next to each other
>Using Doomfest's work in the very beginning of the trailer despite him not being involved at all

>>151627042
The usage of some sort of drug by the MC was very odd, that's about all I remember that may have been cringey. It's definitely far above Driftwood quality wise.

>>151630168
what will be the next driftwood of evns?
screencap this post, I'm calling dizzy hearts.

>>151630413

Probably the Driftwood dev's next game. Funnily enough, it's futa elves.

>>151630562
>Driftwood dev's next game.
You're assuming they're going to secure the $45k funding needed to make it. Not going to happen.

>>151630738

His parents will front the rest, I'm sure.

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>>151630814
>borrowing $20k to make a free game
no idea how he managed to convince them

>>151630963

He's a high upper-class white child who managed to live in one of the most expensive parts of the country for a decent period of his life, how do you think he managed to do it?

>>151631067
>most expensive parts of the country
where the fuck does he live?

>>151630019
>>151629917
I get that but it would be the same if you contacted them sooner, no?

>>151631164

Martha's Vineyard, which is why Driftwood took place there.

>>151631293
It sounds to me like they just lack experience hiring people. If you took your time and weeded out the blatantly shit blabbering artists it's not too hard to fine one that commits, and if they don't, you move on quickly, get a refund and don't wait months.

>>151631741
Yes, I was a first time baby dev. I had no idea what I was in for. Which is why if possible I'd like to warn people against taking the plunge if they aren't 100% committed that what they can create will pay off.

>>151631741
Yeah, every time that guy posts about his artists I think the same. It doesn't even sound like he set a deadline for his new artist.

>>151631741
>If you took your time and weeded out the blatantly shit blabbering artists it's not too hard to fine one that commits, and if they don't, you move on quickly, get a refund and don't wait months.
It's like you're not even reading the posts because they don't align with your personal experience. If you seriously think getting a refund rather than waiting is always viable or possible, you just haven't dealt with a lot of freelancers.

>>151632024
I have, but what can I do when they don't stick to it?

>>151632162
You stop working with them. If someone's ignoring your deadlines and taking one month for a CG it's time to cut your losses, even if you can't get a refund.
I hope you're paying per piece completed and only half up front too.

>>151632086
I have pretty much always been successful in a refund. If you give someone a deadline and they agree to it it's quite easy to get a refund from paypal, and if the artist truly isn't scum, they are usually nice enough to refund you anyway. Put your deadline and product details in the PayPal description when you pay by the way. It's not 100% bulletproof but you sometimes need to just move on.

Post your lifetime artists stats

Mine:
1 reliable, 1 slow, 2 disappearing scum

>>151632832
5 reliable

>>151632832
0. I'm my own artist :^)

>>151632832
3 reliable, 1 slow

>>151632832
2 reliable, 1 disappeared
Only the GUI designer flaked, I don't think he ever made a sketch or anything.

>>151632832
7 bad dog, 2 slow, 1 good

>>151633731
>7 bad

I'm so sorry anon...

>>151629126
>Artist is so slow it took them 6 months to deliver THREE sprites.

Nigger. You have no one to blame but yourself. There are good artists out there. You just gotta find them properly.

>tfw my artist always reports to me and they don't waste time on twitter or steam
Feelsgood.jpg

>>151633602
GUI designers charge a whopper too. Hope you didn't lose money.

>>151633995
>just like doesn't get raped lol

>>151634070
>GUI charge a whopper
How much do they charge exactly? I was thinking that this was actually the cheaper part of the game.

>>151634198
No one forced you/them to get that artist. You/they had a lot of options. Not like the artist grabbed their head and fucked their mouth with brushes.

>>151634343
Not him but I paid $300 USD for mine.

>>151634343
For actual quality (unique, detailed not most of what you see on lemma) a couple hundred to be honest. 500 for mine, and it is quite painstakingly detailed.

While you diss artists, my artist life is finally (probably) starting off soon! It's a free project but whatever I just wanna be part of something.

>>151634343
>>151634474
Some one, post yesterday's GUI for $300

>>151634990
Can I steal you for my free project instead anon

>>151634990
you'll be just like the rest in no time

>>151632832
1 slow snail but does bg, UI, cg, animation, sprites, and trailer video, so everything matches at least

>>151635172
sure as long as it's not porn

>>151635419
You mean scum? I could never.

>>151635729
>not porn
fag

>>151635729
>no porn
you're already halfway there

>>151635856
don't you mean 'pure soul'?

>>151636215
he meant fag, fag

What's everyone working on?

Alternative question: How long ago should you have gone to sleep?

>>151640327
>What's everyone working on?
I was working on some concept art that I probably won't use
>Alternative question: How long ago should you have gone to sleep?
I'm trying get back into the right sleep rhythm and I'm almost there. It's about 8:30pm now so I'll probably go to bed soon, that's late enough.

>>151626760
Highway Blossoms was fine though. Miles better than the HRP demo.

>>151641905

It dragged on just as much and was as dull besides.

>>151640979
I respect anyone who has the fortitude to maintain a proper sleep schedule with what we do.

>>151642498
>the fortitude to maintain a proper sleep schedule
aaaaaaaahaahahhahaa
nah man it just constantly drifts around whenever I don't have anything specific to wake up for.
I've given up trying to keep it normal in the long term by now. A week or two at most is the best I can do.

Why do artists tend to be scum?

>>151640327
>What's everyone working on?
the thing that should have come out for yaoijam but I was too sick to finish.

Also, starting to panic over ML.

> artist working as fast as humanly possible, still not done
> casting director hasn't gotten back to me
> everything is in a nebolous "soon" stage.

>>151642969
same here. i was going to bed at 11pm for a while but now i can't fall asleep until 4am. it also takes me a really long time to finally fall asleep, i stay in bed for three hours sometimes

>>151644297
>Casting director
Why?

>>151644424
I tend to put podcasts on, sometimes I use the same one like 3 times because I miss half the content from falling asleep. It works nicely.

>>151645660
because it's a real studio and they wouldn't let me do it myself?

>>151644424
Get yourself a boyfriend, after an hour of sex you will sleep like a Sleeping Beauty.

>>151646067
What if I'm a guy though?

>>151646587
and?

>>151646587
fag

If you fujoshit niggers just learned how to draw, you lot wouldn't have these problems. Acquire an actual skill, instead of just thinking you can write and throwing your money around. You might actually go places.

>>151647304
show your art

>>151647304
Why would you ever want to do every job? Unless of course you are okay with it taking a literal eternity.

>>151644424
go to the gym and get a workout in the evening, then pass out in your bed at 10 pm after taking a cold shower. ez pz

>>151643745
Hipster trashcans who essentially spent all their time in school drawing instead of talking to/trying to make friends since they're supreme edgelords who believe they're better than everyone else.

>>151646067
>implying i want a penis creature in my room

>>151577783
>pick up ren'py porn game again
>pick up ren'py porn game again

i'm just going to end up playing battleborn all day instead. feelsbadman

>>151647748
Fuchur created the art, the script, the music, and the programming virtually by himself and in two years produced arguably the best eastern vn to date. For free.

>>151649340
Meant western

>>151649340
Googling that name only gives me the long dog thing from that story that never ends

>>151649724
Must be the name of UAB dev.

>>151649340
> virtually by himself
> 3 people

???

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>>151649281
>playing battleborn
What the fuck dude

>>151649971
>virtually
He had a bit of assistance and a few proofreaders/editors, but everything was created by him.

>>151650352

dude, the official page lists the author and the artist as different people.

>>151650885
Those were the assistants. Anne Frank, aka Fuchur, was the author, artist, programmer, etc. He even translated the entire thing into English. The only thing Fuchur didn't do was make that web page.

>>151650345
/v/ shitposting aside it's the best MP game i've played since pre-suicide TF2
also the reason why i haven't done anything productive in A FUCKING WEEK

i've been getting quotes to have VA for a small game of mine. it's not as pricey as i originally thought, but still impossible to justify since VA does not seem to lead to more profits.

>>151651845
are they actually good or nyanners-tier screeching beasts

>>151651845
Post samples

>>151652702
>good
>english VA

>>151653303
why...?

>>151654162
>>good
>>english VA

> implying some english VAs aren't god tier

they're all expensive as fuck, though.

Reading all those anons above I'm so happy I can draw and do all the other shit on my own. Fuck teamwork (if I could only clone myself to do everything at once I would be so happy).

>>151654162
Why post anything here

>>151655843
>god tier
yeah maybe if you have a cartoon show on or a AAA vidya game where the budget makes all evn look like macaroni craft cards.

>>151657217
>if I could only clone myself
No, you don't want that. You will be either arguing with yourself all day or fucking yourself all day.
You will still be a evn nodev

>>151657526
You have a point there. Back to the slow progress, I guess.

>>151657468

Well, obviously. More money = better assets.

Does Violet Hill dev still hang out here? Is your project still alive?

>>151660506
I still think its weird how from demo to demo the entire project changed

>>151660817
I've only tried the latest demo, how were the others?

>>151661136
I haven't played them, I only read their blog post about it:
http://redlattice.tumblr.com/post/137529352398/january-2016-update

>>151661402
Oh that. To be honest the background locations in the demo looked so western it didn't feel like japan at all.

>>151662035
But really, if a demo has 5 different versions and the developers still aren't done with it, it's fucking dead in the water. Abandon all hope, its never getting finished.

>>151662550
Just found it out its a free, volunteer based project. I don't know why you had any hope for it in the first place.

@Omega_93
>I'm done with visual novels. No one keeps their word. Scene full of fucking flakes.
>I really don't understand. What do I do wrong? Am I a cunt and just don't realise it?
I think that's a dev working on violet hill, RIP.

>>151662917
Well I guess there is my answer.

>>151642094
Did we play the same game? The only scene that dragged was that weird trucker scene.

>>151662917
>"The bad news....

>...is that we were back to the drawing board with the script. That's right, for reasons yet unspecified Alex_Omega

has left the team and we were left without a DEMO script and without anything to replace it."

>>151643745
Because you try to enlist ones who can afford to do stuff for free, and those tend to not be particularly competent/reliable/available people.

DESU most of /evn/ would do better if they made something small with limited assets to prove they're capable of finishing something, then MAYBE start a Kickstarter for something larger. /evn/ makes the mistake of starting with THE GAME THEY ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE, 80+ HOURS WITH HUNDREDS OF CGs.

Related: Is most of /evn/ underage/unemployed or something?

You can do what Dischan did and fund an entire game with your student loans.

I will never get over the fact that he actually admitted that. He did it, fine, it is what it is. But admitting that's how he funded his stuff hurt his image.

I don't even remember his fucking name.

>>151664942
says the nodev

>>151664942
>He did it, fine, it is what it is
Is it? Dischan burned down to the ground and he's out of an education and a job, no?

>Never written an EVN, no interest to
>Browse /evn/ for curiosity
>All these generic, uninspired stories
>No time spent developing a premise/solid foundation
>Cookie-cutter characters and narrative devices
>"W-well it's not the same thing as writing a novel, w-we can be generic and people will still play for the art"
>No substantial planning
>Memes, memes, memes
>Artists are scum

98% of you will never produce anything of value, in /evn/ or in the real world, and that's actually a good thing.

>>151664942
Most of /evn/ talks about paying people, so I don't think so.

>>151665790
No one posts anything, not even generic shit.

>>151665790
you forgot the thirst

Take a screencap of your vn, no matter how barebones it is and post.

>>151665760
Wait, did he actually finish his education? I assumed he did.

Ouch.

>>151665790
literally nobody has posted anything from their project in this thread

>>151664942
>writing text-based ren'py porn game
>only limit is my lack of motivation
reeee

>>151665885
>Most of /evn/ talks about paying people, so I don't think so.
You guys should really go through a website that will guarantee (a) you get what you paid for, when you paid for it to be done or (b) your money back.

Giving paypal bucks to Deviantart kids is just not smart.

>>151666454
I've never had a problem. I also hire people after doing research on them, so that's most likely why.

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>>151665790

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>>151666031

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>>151666031
Placeholders. Placeholders everywhere.

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>>151665989
Progress post summoned.

>>151667305
Nice to see you again, incest loli dogfucker anon.

>>151667727
Someone doesn't look happy.

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>>151666031
currently resizing on screen sprites for the 50th time because i don't fucking know

>>151668080
How tall are the other characters compared to him? Is he a main or side character?
To be honest his hair is so close to the edge of the window it'd be better to move him down or let the window cut him off.

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>>151668080

>>151668680
He's a main character. He's also the tallest thankfully. Yaz is painfully short though, like literally eyes to his shoulder. It leaves me with little room to move things without it bothering me.

>>151668890
>still not furry edition

What did you mean by this anon?

>>151669402
>like literally eyes to his shoulder
Cute! But yeah, height differences like that are tricky.

>>151669879
it's a reference to a /d/ argument about CoC being furry
i argued it's not due to a majority of the characters not being furry

>>151595447
That is adorable!

Unfortunately the last time I swooned for a fellow dev, the end result involved the police.

>>151665790
Nothing has value, you dumb cunt. Especially not entertainment.

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>>151667914
>incest loli dogfucker anon
>incest

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>>151666031
I'm just a passerby tho, don't browse /evn/ often so please don't eat me alive.

>>151671115
the girl is cute

>>151671020
I took your feedback on board.

>>151671115
Maybe it's just me, but the dialogue box feels a bit cluttered with that texture and it hampers the readability somewhat.

>>151671634
I'm surprised anyone remembered that. Are you AA dev? Your art is looking as impressive as always.

>>151671589
Thanks

>>151672095
It does look off when there's no character indication, but I still don't really know how to resolve this, so I'll probably leave it this way unless I'll get other inspiration.

>>151667001
You're making progress, keep doin' it.
>>151667305
This looks pretty cool, I like the linework so far. I would suggest improving the sprite lines, keeping in mind to play with line weight. The closer something is should have a stronger line for example. I assume you've got a choice to do something with the girl, and the layout looks nice for it.
>>151668080
I think I'm with the other anon on reducing his height a little since it's pretty much at the top of the screen. I'd try and leave a small gap. You could try moving him behind another sprite when you want to show size comparison maybe. Otherwise I actually like the gui, very simple and the colors are pretty nice to look at. I'd suggest playing with the quick menu though, try something different, it feels too big and eyecatching - could be just me.
>>151671115
Looking pretty cool. Agree with the other anon on the text box, can't point my finger on it. You could try change it's color and the text color somewhat or reduce the texture opacity on it. The shape overall is fine. Also, just a heads up, if the male is meant to be looking away from her, no problem, but if he's engaged in conversation it'd be better to have him look at her/player, so switching the characters place would fix that.

>>151673728
>You're making progress, keep doin' it.

I would post more but it wouldn't be wise

I'm doin' it

>>151672593
Being given a name here is a nice thing, so I didn't want to disappoint you. I am, and thanks! I'm always impressed that you're able to be a one man band dev.

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>>151666031
Still working on interface. It's mostly placeholders now.

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>>151673728
Oh, thanks for the feedback mate. I've already colored that sprite, but I'll keep the advice in mind for the future. My build is all over the place and infested with placeholders that I've neglected to update. Nearly everything is black and white.

>I assume you've got a choice to do something with the girl
Yeah, the girls freely move about the house and backgrounds doing various things in real time. You click on them and, unless they're preoccupied, those options drop down. Talk, gift, "headpats", and leave.

>>151675212
It might sound like I'm joking with a name like that, but it is actually a nice feeling.

>I'm always impressed that you're able to be a one man band dev
It's not that impressive really. I'm envious of those who work well with others and can make really nice looking speedy progress. I'm slow, and if something trips me up, I flounder on the ground for a really long time.

>>151676331
>Yeah, the girls freely move about the house and backgrounds doing various things in real time.

Why does this sound so spooky. That's really amazing though. Did you make your own engine for this?

>>151673728
In this particular scene he's annoyed with her so he averted his gaze. Great idea with opacity, I'll play around with it, thanks for the advice.

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>>151666031
I'm solodevving for now, so the BGs, sprites and GUI are just cheap placeholders ripped off from other games. I'm making flowcharts because lately things are getting messy.

>>151677968
What program is that?

>>151678220
http://pencil.evolus.vn/Features.html
It's free.

>>151678358
Seems useful, might use it, thanks.

>>151678424
I would also recommend https://realtimeboard.com/

>>151677249
Nah, I'm using Ren'py, and I routinely have to beg a friend of mine to tell me how garbage my code is and how to fix it. I've re-purposed some code for a timer and combined it with a few functions that take that time into consideration, along with various stats (a few of which are also affected by time), to determine where they'll move to next.

It could be a little spooky. I can't animate this movement, so girls will have to fade in and out as they move from place to place.

>>151678916
you should put some easter egg in there, where like 1 in 500 the sprite changes to some bloodied freaky mess.

I'm working on a dating sim for /agdg/'s Lewd Jam. Should I post updates about it here?

>>151679392
If the interface is VN-ish, sure.

>>151679512

The interface will be VN-ish, but it will have stats like True Love too, and it's not going to be as long as some VNs.

>>151679143
Oh man, the entire reason I'm making something like this is because I want it to be as replayable as possible. If all goes well, you can expect a lot of variation and surprises.
God knows when I'm actually going to be able to finish this thing though. Even when I'm mostly focusing on only one of the heroines, its a lot of work.

>all these devs posting and everyone talking about progress
>no funposting
Keep it up /evn/.

>>151679706
Stats and not lengthy is fine. I think it's okay to post here.

>>151679706
I don't even know if what I'm doing even qualifies as a VN, but I still post it here. Mwahaha

>>151680778

My thoughts on this were, this game would have narrative and dialogue in the vn aesthetic as one of the primary mechanics, so why not /evn/.

>>151681027
>this game would have narrative and dialogue in the vn aesthetic as one of the primary mechanics
I'd say you'd be just fine here. And probably the various other /vg/ porn generals as well if it's ero.

>>151624003
>>151623995
>Sayaka Sasaki
A+. You can talk shit about HRP all you want but they got a legit singer for their OP.

ont die nao

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>>151666031
6 bgs down, 12 left to go. Need to narrow it down somehow.

>>151685945
You can do it anon! I believe in you.

>>151685945
berry nice birb

>>151686338
Thank you, I'll do my best
>>151686354
Had to ignore anatomy and flying ability in favor of rotundness

>>151685945

> that cute bird

10/10 would hug.

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>All this progress-posting
Okay, here goes!

>>151688938
That expression either works really well or really poorly depending on what you're going for. Other than that, not bad at all.

>>151689260
I'm going for 'shit-eating grin' so hopefully it works for that.

>>151687029
We both believe in you!

>>151689587
She looks more like she's going to eat you, literally. You might want to try closing the eyes a bit more and tone down the mouth quite a bit. I'd also remove the dimples entirely.

>>151689587
it looks more like a terrifying skull smile
8/10 would fear again

>>151688184
>>151689950
Thanks senpaitachi

>>151690064
it really does look like she's going to eat you, kek. Otherwise it looks fine for a sprite, just needs that expression fixed.

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>>151690064
>>151692945
Is this any better?

>>151693164
It actually does look better, what does it look like with her lower half?

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>>151693586
Mmmmm yeah it looks better. Still a /little/ scary but probably won't come across as such with color. Definitely looks more shit-eating grin. It gave off a vibe of one of those titan things from attack on titan with the original.

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>>151693164
Definitely on the right track.
If it helps, here's my take on it.

>>151695416
Maybe a bit too much on the smug side, but thank you!
I'll play around a bit more and try to iron it out.

7kpp alpha is sooooooooooo good

>>151696508
>too much on the smug side
No such thing.

>>151696508
>too much smug
I wish all my girls were that smug

>>151696741
Well she's more about taking gleeful delight in having someone wrapped around her finger than being smug about it.
Smug girls are pretty good though I won't deny that.

>>151697231
If you give her back her angry eyebrows, you'll probably get the expression you want.

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*eats shit*

wake up!

Everyone asleep? I thought you were night owls.

Anyone participating in the upcoming lewd jam??

>>151705357
>lewd jam
Are you trying to trick me

>>151706807
https://itch.io/jam/lewd-jam-2016

>>151706924
>tfw your writing would probably be too lewd

>>151707816
Sounds like you're just making an excuse so you don't have to try.

>>151706924
What if I had a lewd game in dev before this and said I made it in two weeks, how would they know?

>>151708294
from this post

>>151708294
who cares, just give me lewd nigga

>>151708294
Why would anyone cheat game jams? Sound so stupid.

>>151708497
I'm just asking since it said there was a prize. I don't and won't participate in any game jams.

>>151708007
considering i'd be literally /d/ if i actually went to /d/
i dunno mate

>>151706924
But can I make a lewd loli game

>>151667305
>>151676331
Can I sex that loli?

>>151667727
>yurishit
Wasted potential.

>>151706924
https://itch.io/jam/lewd-jam-2016
Professional Ren'py programmer looking for a team to make lewd milf-trap-elf game.

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>it's the forcing your character to murder someone they don't want to murder part

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>>151711546
Pic related

>yurishit
>Wasted potential.
I'm not really into yuri either, but I'm still looking forward to it. That art is bangin' man, and the premise is neat.

>>151713942
Post your blog, or lemma thread or something, don't want to loose that loli