/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

Get a load of THIS edition

https://www.gamingforgood.net/s/LuckWEHSleven

Sonic Adventure Stream

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First for cutest!

>>151577593
Since you're not first it looks like not cutest. Maybe next time, pal.

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>no music for the thread three times in a row

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what does /sthg/ think of Pochincoff?

>>151577650
Aw peas.

>>151577676
>wrong thread number again
What's happening lately? We had a streak where everything went perfect.

>>151577817
someone keeps beating me to the punch because I forget to check post count

>>151578108
stop

>>151578315
how so?

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relevant vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McC4-n4J9Zo

I finally got a commish by Adam Bryce Thomas framed. He is an awesome Sonic Comic artist.

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i liek when u press right aaaaaand he goes through a loopty loop

>>151579742
post pics

>>151577409
>that pic
Do you think she ever told Cream?

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>>151580027
Oh, right.

Well, it was free comic book day and I had just seen Age of Ultron again. He was showing off all this legitimately cool crossover art, so I thought of doing Nicole, vs Vision for one of his crossover sketches...

I LOVE it.

>>151580572
That crossover is awesome and actually makes some sense.

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bump

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>>151582995
I'd bump Bump's butt

>>151578315
Considering how the requests thread looks right now I'm not surprised.

>>151583525
The requests thread has always been shit. Speedy just magnified it.

>>151581782
>>151580572
Who suffers more? Nicole or Vision? Oh who am I kidding it's Vision

>>151580572
Man that's so cool of you. Thanks.

>>151578315
You have my interest now I must investigate this trainwreck

>>151579742
>>151580572
I really want to comission him, but he's understandably swamped right now. One day, though!

Sonic 2's final bosses are bullshit the first time you play them.

>>151584281
Silver Sonic was easy. Do you know how long it took me to fucking figure out how to beat the giant robot when I was a kid?

>>151583628
>Speedy just magnified it.
Come again?

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Draw your favorite Sonic zone/level in MS Paint.

>>151584775
Yeah, after you learn its tricks. The first time, though? With no rings and how fast it is, and without knowing what it's gonna do? Not so easy.

How long is Sonic 3 in comparison to 2?

>>151585629
Really depends. Fewer levels but each level is longer. But Metropolis alone is more difficult in anything in Sonic 3 and the save system in Sonic 3 destroys what little difficulty it has. Not that it matters to most players because they'll be able to clear Sonic 2 in one run no problem, but as someone who played both while in elementary school, Sonic 3 was a massive disappointment after Sonic 2.

Shitfic chapter 13 is done: http://pastebin.com/SwbX9YeB

I'm still open to suggestions for a character to add. There's going to be paperwork that needs to be filled out and I'm thinking Sally is probably the best character for that job. I've never really been a fan of her, but we'll see.

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>>151585545

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>>151586431

>>151585981
Does the Knuckles part make it better?

>>151586880
Tails, the heathen, is using a font dangerously close to comicsans for his restaurant

>>151577587
>https://www.gamingforgood.net/s/LuckWEHSleven
>Sonic Adventure Stream
any chance you stream some hacks/fangames ?

>>151587807
I think anon disappeared only after a few minutes of streaming.

>>151588016
oh, too bad

>>151587449
Are you implying that Tails wouldn't be a shitposter?
Hell he'd probably be one of those celebrities who hates his own fandom and trolls the shit out of it.

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>>151577593

OBJECTION

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>>151585545
I tried

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>>151585545

>>151591063
it's blaze the cutie!

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>>151591750
It's Blaze the sexy!

>>151583705
We love you too Adam

why tails isn't female?

>>151580572
That's actually really cool, awesome that he did that.

>>151584771
If we ignore it will it go away or will it just grow stronger?

What ever happened to Cybershell?

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>tfw just refunded No Man's Sky

Well that was a disappointment. It does make me think though, would a Sanic game benefit from having open world elements?

>>151577676
You are asking for way too much effort for most thread makers. Majority would just want to copy/paste without having to search for music too.

>>151592980
he has a twitter account and some of his tweets are pretty amusing: https://twitter.com/Cybershell

>>151593568

n o

>>151593898
But what if you can have procedural generations for the level, anon! It'll be fun!

>>151593998

>you will go so fast that the odds of running into another player are nigh impossible

>>151593895
Speaking of sonic bros on Twitter, what happened to HUELEN10?

>>151593568
Define "elements."

If you make it aimless with no clear goal, or direction then the speed-running idea that Sonic was born from ceases to be.

The best way to implement the idea would be to have large levels with distinct beginnings and endings, but have Mario 64-style missions in between. Your rank is therefore based on how many missions you did, how many secrets you collected and how quickly you reached the end having done all of that.

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Lost World was a mistake

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>>151588016
>>151587807
>>151577587
Sorry just a few moments of Streaming, Heavy Thunder Rain and Lightning clouds rolled in knocking out access of internet for a good solid 7 hours. I just got it back on.

Recommend some hacks and I might be able to play some provided that they are legit easy to download and pick up and play.

Too all those who was watching my stream. I am deeply sorry that I have failed you. Want me to continue?

>>151596372
>Recommend some hacks
obscure one but still fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iehyeYuaQxI

>>151596315
It could have been worse John. A lot worse. It could have been 06.

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Y'know, after replaying lost world, with just some tweaking I feel like it'd be a good style. The only real problems, gameplay wise are
>1. Poor sense of movement and momentum.
You can't jump gaps from anything but a running start.
>2. It's much too easy to abuse the spindash.
Honestly you can spin out of everything. The game practically had drop dash before drop dash.
>3. Run Button
While I do enjoy a button that lets me start from a run, and sonic DOES slowly pick up speed while he runs, the downside is that there's never really a time to not hold the run button It gets easy to cramp your finger or something (Run into a similar issue in most mario games, though.)

Beyond that I like how springy the homing attack and jump animations are, The jump action (Sonic's little flip) Is probably the best one he's had. It's floaty and it lifts him up a bit, making it good for getting both vertical distance and horizontal distance while still giving you enough control so you don't accidentally overshoot your target. Parkour was alright, might need a bit more tweaking but it's honestly very sonic-y and I wouldn't mind them doing more things like it.
Honestly the worst thing about the game is the writing and level design. It's honestly an 7/10 at least. Also there's a lot of throwback stuff, with old returning enemies and Sonic's super peelout out animation. The big issues with it are that it's only on the Wii U and it came after generations/colors/unleashed gameplay.

>>151596372
the S factor ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auCe3C_oUjc

http://info.sonicretro.org/images/archive/7/7c/20130808135655%21SFACTOR.zip

>>151596805
So instead of being absolute garbage it just garbage
Thank you based Iizuka!

>>151596372
sonic with fries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVcPen1rJvY

>>151596372
bakasonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mShQt-I9UPI

>>151596372
>Heavy Thunder Rain and Lightning clouds
Perfect Chaos doesnt want you to stream apparently

I fucking hate all of you and this stupid franchise why am I still here fuck this place and fuck everyone.
Fuck anon.
Fuck Bump.
Fuck Sage.
Fuck the Swatbot.
Fuck Sonic.
Fuck Eggman.
Fuck Sonic Team.
Fuck Sonic Mania.
Fuck Project 2017.
But more than anything else, fuck you.

>>151599406

>t. Shadow

>>151599406
See you later anon

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https://www.gamingforgood.net/s/LuckWEHSleven
With Feeling Sonic Adventure time

Mic is charging so no vocals from me. I might need a new headset.

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>>151585545
Bet no-one remembers this zone

>>151600090
Bridge Zone isn't obscure
The water level from Sonic 2 MS is

>>151600157
Aqua lake?
That level sucks though senpai

>>151600610
Which is why it's obscure

>>151600641
Most of Sonic 2 GG is obscure. The only levels anyone remembers are Sky High Zone and Green Hills Zone

>>151600157

every level from S2MS that isn't Underground Zone is obscure

>>151575772
yeah Beerus was the best part of the episode even though he barely did anything
not like it's hard for him to be the best part of Super but still
I just want Pilaf and his gang to fuck off to dead zone

>>151578315
>>>/trash/
go figure

>>151586880
I would get some Blazing hot coffee and the get some pizza and then tail out of there

>>151600090
I liked bridge zone music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZD4ysD1hR8

>>151600953
>NicoCW
I love his remixes

>>151600839
>>151600883
well apparently now half of the game isn't obscure

When Streaming Sonic Adventure which is better? Jap Dub or English?

>>151601179
i prefer english dub

Everyones asleep at this time. I guess for the 4th time I will postpone the stream. See you all later /sthg/
Peace

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>>151600090
MS/GG Sonic needs more love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYJkol00JCE

>>151602020
>MS/GG Sonic needs more love.

agreed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6daP2dF-fgg

>>151599927
Out of curiosity, with all the fucked up shit out there this franchise inspired, did someone ever stumble upon Froggy porn?

>>151602140
lets hope that doesnt exist

>>151602140

i don't think so

froggy is pure

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>>151602279

>>151602130
>love the shit out of Sonic GG/MS
>love the shit out of Sonic 2 GG/MS
>love the shit out of Sonic Chaos
>love the shit out of Sonic TT
>love the shit out of Tails' Skypatrol
>love the shit out of Tails Adventures
>love the shit out of Sonic Drift 2
>no one ever talks about them
>people only worship the classics while complaining about how 3D Sonic is broken is X or Y way

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>>151602297
That may be true, but why did chaos need his tail again?
>>151602381

>>151602413

nobody gives a shit about the handheld Sonics for whatever reason

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>>151602486

>>151602486
i think froggy ate an emerald, and chaos just wanted it for that

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>>151602529
Small screen size and hardware limitations meant they don't play really well, just alright. Not to discredit them, but the SMS/GG line of games generally range from ok to pretty good, but none of them are particularly stand out when compared to the genesis line or even other platformers that were out at the time.

>>151602721
i just wish they would remake them in 16 bit style

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>>151602684

>>151602279
>>151602381
>>151602486
>>151602589
>>151602684
>>151602767
Man, these double nigger memes are really tame

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>>151602767

>>151602767
where do these come from anyways

>>151602764
Remaking them in 16 bit style would be a neat undertaking for a fangame/romhack of sorts, but sega doing it themselves seems rather pointless. Not much demand for it at all and if anything, would likely highlight the issue of how barren a lot of these games are when played in a larger resolution. Best example of this is Chaos, where the GG version feels ok, but the SMS version feels extremely empty for a lot of the levels.

>>151602881

a jokebook

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>>151602856
Last one I got. If anyone has ones I missed please post them

>>151602845
those are the original ones

>>151602924
rom hack would do, imagine playing sonic 2 (genesis) with master system / game gear levels, or sonic CD+sonic chaos, sonic 3 triple trouble

>>151603132
I actually kind of want to do this now.

>>151602924
Im surprised nobodies done this.

well I have seen a hack of sonic 1 with a time travel gimmick where the past green hill is the 8 bit one.

>>151603216
you'd be my hero if you could make something like that

>>151603048
That's the joke

>>151596372
Sonic Classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkWnUztPG8Q

>>151603216
>>151556581

>>151602529
Nobody gives a shit about the pre Advance handheld Sonics for whatever reason.

FTFY

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I want to see a 2D Sonic game that has branching Zone structure via alternate exits, kinda like Ow the Edge but not as retarded.

>>151605003
I don't remember ShTH having anything like that

>>151605003
me too, like mario world, hopefully mania will get the ball rolling and 2d will get to fill out some potential.

>>151605165

you know what I mean

instead of going to level A you can go to level B if you go off the beaten path

better example: Hidden Palace Zone in Sonic 2 Mobile

>>151604356
samefag ?

>>151605361
no but I am >>151556581

>>151605768
oh cool, so what is your hack/fangame about ?

>>151606202
right now it's just a layout and art hack but I'm thinking of making it into a gmerl romhack

>>151606705
kind of an unlikely character to choose, but i wish you luck with it, hope i can play it some day in the future.

SEGA Europe @SEGA_Europe
@Nirbion @RubyEclipse @PantyGremlin @SSF1991 to clarify we are not announcing anything new - we are going to talk about PC ports in general.

>>151606705
>>151607772
I commend him for going with a lesser known character.

good luck senpai

>>151608358
Bummer.

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Tracy is gonna kill it!

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You guys are really hangin' on the edge of tomorrow

>>151612428
Sonic has a big mouth

>>151612428
it's the weekend anon. there are people who have lives in the sonic community

>>151610119
What the hell, why is Classic Sonic in 288?

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>>151613134

>>151613134

Flashback arc.

>>151613197
>>151613223
Oh, that'll be cool.

>>151610119
I'm just glad to see that this hopefully means Tracy is going to be back to form.

>Sonic 2017 project debut trailer
>the world needs a hero
>but even heroes need help
GUYS
hold and hear me out on this
what if Sonic Xenoverse
:^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRVrKKYXOGk

Guys, the Ride the Wave archive is broken. Help.

Nicole is a SLUT
I bet she fucks everyone in the Sky Patrol AT THE SAME TIME

>>151616624
but she's being raped by PenisVaginaTentacle monster

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>>151616624

>>151617272
Fangs are cute!!

>>151615903
Who beat him up?

Amy's always been flat in the art and renders. The only point where she wasn't flat were the in-game models for Shuffle and Adventure 2

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>>151617443
Best Robot

>>151617443
Nicole

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working on a sonic sprite for a project

its got to be 64x64, with 16 colours.
I keep thinking it looks bad but ti could just me expecting it to be smoother.

>>151617772
Robots should get new paint jobs more often.

>>151618102
Based on the shading, I'm gonna guess Pokemon hack.

>>151617860
Must've been an extreme chess match.

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>>151618130

>>151618229
good eye
ill try to keep it low key, some people might not be too keen on bringing up another series

truth is I want to make a sonic RPG an I think doing it this way is best for me.

so how is it?
top is 200%
bottom is 100%

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>>151618240
That outfit is so damn good.

>>151599406
>not fuck you and your friends
one job

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>>151618240

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>>151618440
It's based off the American Sonic right? He looks stiff, as if the sprite was drawn first without a pose in mind. The curve on his top quill needs to be rounder too.

Pic related can help a good bit.

>>151616000
I don't think I've ever downloaded it before, otherwise I'd reupload it for ya.

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>>151620223
Please don't post what I'm assuming is cropped porn. It makes me feel uncomfortable.

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>>151619681
hes meant to be a classic sonic,
pic is reference image so the stiff pose was perhaps there before

>>151608358
What could they possibly say that is new but not an announcement, is related to PC ports, and centers on Sonic Unleashed?

>>151620654
The abdomen and leg shapes look better on the sketch, so try to round those out a bit on the sprite.

The arms look pretty stiff though, and too short. Stretch them out a bit and bend them some. Sonics arms shoud be noodle limbs, not broomsticks.

Hope that helps.

>>151620597
He's just getting a feet massage.

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>>151621464
Please don't post what I'm assuming is cropped fetish porn. It makes me feel uncomfortable.

>>151621136
thanks, Ill try
I plan to do 36 characters in total.
its gonna be tough

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>>151621967

Okay, playing Sonic 3 for the first time.
What should I expect.

>>151622482
Depends. Are you playing Sonic 3, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, or Sonic 3 Complete?

>>151622690
Sonic 3. Is there really that much of a difference?

>>151622763
S3 Complete is basically S3K but improved in every way.

S3 is only half of S3K and has occasional quirks like wrong boss music for HCZ1s boss and Robotnik monitors around LBZ.

Tell me your unpopular Sonic opinions, /sthg/.

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>>151623587
I like Sonic Blast. Yes, the Game Gear game.

I also think Rouge is hotter when she's wearing more conservative clothes.

And I don't care for ATS/BTS much, mainly because of the level design, random Kirby shit and old Worlds engine.

>>151623587
I think putting Tails in a mech could work really well if done right.

>>151623587

I think the Werehog was executed decently enough.

>>151622924
>S3 Complete is basically S3K but improved in every way.
I hate when this happens, kind of. It always makes me doubt about which one to play.

From what I've seen so far, it looks as if they went all out with this game. It's interesting seeing how they went progressively more ambitious with each one.

>>151624203
> It always makes me doubt about which one to play.
S3 Complete is S3K but with options to customize the game how you want, like S3 or SK music, etc.

So theoretically it can be vanilla S3K.

>>151623587
I do not mind Classic Sonic being in Project 2017.

We should be getting November solicitations any day now, and since they're post SWC issues, I'm like ten times more excited to see what's coming.

>>151623587
Titan Tails should be Tails' super form in the games

>>151623985
>>151624470
but these aren't unpopular opinions

>>151624508
Same here, though they're probably going to just be part 2 of Genesis of a Hero and part 2 of the Chaotix arc

>>151625159
Oh, I know that, but I'm just glad we'll get getting stories that don't involve Unleashed.

>tfw you share the same birthday with Sanic and Ovalman

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>>151613197
>origin story with Classic Sonic

This is gonna be terrible. Hopefully it will be completely detached lore-wise from the modern comic and so it can be ignored.

>>151613197
>>151613223
Is this gonna be another Genesis ordeal?

>>151625698
It's definitely going to be in continuity though.

>>151625525
Why? I enjoyed the Unleashed arc

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>>151625698
>>151625746

Script: Ian Flynn
Art: Tracy Yardley, Terry Austin, Gabriel Cassata & John Workman
Sonic the Hedgehog #288 CVR A Reg: Patrick Spaziante
Sonic the Hedgehog #288 CVR B Variant: Genevieve FT

SONIC is BACK in “Genesis of a Hero” Part One: It’s Sonic’s 25th Anniversary and we’re celebrating in style—retro-style that is! See Sonic in his first climactic show-down with Dr. Eggman, straight from the gameplay of the first Sonic the Hedgehog game! But what happens after the battle? And what new force arises once the dust has settled? It’s the story you know with a new twist! Featuring cover art by the legendary Patrick Spaziante and a “Best Buds” variant by the lovely Genevieve FT!
On Sale Date: 11/9
32-page, full color comic
$3.99 U.S.

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>>151610119
>>151613197
>Ian said Mega Drive is canon to the main stories
>Even though apparently Classic Sonic is going to look radically different, and there's a good chance the tone will be entirely different
He said it, but I'm not buying it.

>>151625895
Well looks like I'm sticking to Universe for the next four months.

>>151626032
It's just artstyle differences for fuck's sake.
You think Adam Sonic and Tracy Sonic are two different Sonics too?

>>151526482

There won't be a happy ending for them ;_;

>>151626247
Good. Sonic needs some villains. :^)

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>>151625698
>>151626167

>>151625698
>This is gonna be terrible.
Par for the course.

>>151623587
the only way for sonic to ever rise above mediocrity is if he's outsourced to a good 3rd party developer.

it's finally happening to 2d sonic with mania but 3d sonic hasn't had any luck yet

>>151626032

My theory is that the ancient gears are related to the Time Eater somehow and parallel universe/timeline bullshit will be invoked.

>>151626619
Or it's just two different pencillers drawing the character different from each other.

>>151626240
>>151626783
Tracy and Adams draw modern Sonic on-model. CD/OVA Sonic is an entirely different character model than 90s Jap box art Sonic.

>>151625895
>See Sonic in his first climactic show-down with Dr. Eggman, straight from the gameplay of the first Sonic the Hedgehog game!
Sonic solo arc?

>he doesn't beat Abyss first
>then Maw > Akhlut > Axel > Kukku > Clove > Storm >Nephthys >Tundra > Wendy > Modred > Thunderbolt
lmao I bet you fuckers picked Thunderbolt first

>>151626783

Well, obviously.

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>>151625773
Who cares if it's in continuity if it's just one random 'origin' story unconnected to any current events in the comic.

If it's like that it can just be ignored and treated like an else-world. Kinda sucks they're putting it in the main comic though instead of a side thing.

I mean, there is no way this can satisfy anybody.

Either it's exactly like the game, just Sonic and Eggman, and that's not gonna carry 4 issues.

It puts in the comic characters, and pisses off the game purists.

It puts in the game characters, and pisses of the comic purists and retcons the games lore.

This is just one big minefield that didn't need to be stepped on.

I HOPE Scratch and Grounder are in it.

>>151625109
I've seen a lot of people hate his inclusion in Project 2017. Especially with him getting Mania.

>>151602937
>KNOCK, KNOCK

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>>151627736
who's there?

>>151627470
They already did it before a few years ago before the reboot, with Sonic meeting the Freedom Fighters and they went through the Sonic 1 zones.

I doubt they would do that all over again, simply because it would be redundant.

Anyone know when the next Sonic Channel comic is coming?

>>151627470
The solicit says the story takes place during and after Sonic's showdown with Eggman, not a story based on the entire game like Genesis was.

>>151626528
Ebin
>>151627470
It's obviously going to be a "how Sonic met the FFs story" or at least how he met say, Tails
>>151627921
Difference is that Genesis was in an else worlds type thing and self contained. This is in continuity

>>151628107
>Difference is that Genesis was in an else worlds type thing and self contained. This is in continuity
Was it? Its been so long that I forgot what the story was even about.

>>151628389
Well, kind of. It was in the main continuity, but it was the result of a significant reality warp-y thingy.

>>151628389
Yeah, the first Genesis Wave happened, put Sonic in an alt universe situation, then it got retconed when it was over and back to the normal pre-boot continuity.

>>151623587
Adventure fags need to be told to fuck off and sega should focus on classic and modern fans.

>>151628748
>Adventure fags need to be told to fuck off
I mean, haven't they said enough with saying multiple times that it isn't in their current plans?

>>151628748
Adventure fags are modern fans?

Unless you mean the 90s cartoon, but they aren't getting pandered to

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>>151628748

>>151623587
I hope both P2017 and Mania fail and are torn to shreds by the community

>>151628824
The problem is they still have hope that they will be pandered to through either adventure style gameplay or chao garden or some shit. Their hopes should be utterly crushed.

>>151628748
2017 project looks adventurish in tone, might a mix of three eras.

>>151628748
Sonic Adventure has the best controls for Sonic when it comes to 3D platforming

>>151629371
Why?

>>151629592
>Sonic Adventure has the least garbage controls for Sonic when it comes to 3D platforming
FTFY

>>151629782
I feel like SA2 would be the best 3D controls for Sonic if bounce bracelet and somersault were mapped to different buttons

>>151629372
Agreed. I hate their insistence that the games need these big epic plots too. What we've gotten since Colors (Lost World notwithstanding) has been good enough and probably the best plots the games have had since 3&k

>>151629371
I can understand 2017 but why mania?

>>151629782
Basically what I said

>>151629989
Agreed

>>151629371
Some people just want to watch the world burn

>>151629592
>slippery as fuck controls
>no drift, so you constantly hit walls
>no boost
Kys

>>151630589
>boostfag
opinion invalidated

>>151628748
>sega should focus on classic and modern fans.

Haven't they been doing that the last few years?

>>151629989
Scratch that, somersault and light speed dash
Because if that's the case then you have a button for spindash and bounce bracelet and a button for basically everything else (light dash, somersault, picking up shit, etc.)
Bounce bracelet is the only action that can really hurt you if you use it on accident so if you make that the only outcome of pressing B in midair then you won't have to worry about that.
Someone should make this a mod for the PC version or an action replay code on gamecube.

>>151629660
Not him, but they're both lazy

>2017 is literally Generations 2. Iizuka is full of shit when he said it wasn't
>Mania is Sega being so lazy they're trying to sell a fan game at full price so they don't have to do the work themselves

>>151623587
I like Sonic

I think it's funny when Sonic fans try to criticize each other's taste.

It's like trying to argue whose shit tastes less like shit.

>>151629371
>Mania
This one is more likely to just be raped on sight. When it releases everyone will looking at it under a microscope. If the physics aren't 1:1 classicfags will cry "this isn't what we wanted".

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>>151630589
>boostfag criticizes another game for being slippery

>>151631029
Considering this is Taxman and Stealth we're talking about, you're right. It's not not going to be 1:1 with the classics.

It's going to be better.

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>>151631137
Delete your picture right now.

>>151623587
I like Classic, Adventure, Modern and Boom
Why do we only have to choose one?

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>>151630696
>>151631137
>autistic adventurefags think their shitty gameplay is fun

>>151630696
>>151631137
Not him, but get gud

>>151631163
>spoiler

you made me chuckle anon. if there is one thing this fanbase will be pissed about that isn't perfect, it's the physics.

>>151631546
>>151631597
But anon I like both boost and adventure
I'm just acknowledging that boost is slippery as shit and you're a hypocrite if you argue something else is while praising boost controls

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>>151630972

>>151631649
It's Taxman, they got the master of classic Sonic physics, and the ones who bitch about physics are the same ones that look up to his work.

We're in the clear here.

>>151629371
if mania fails i want dimps to come back which they probably will once sega sees it didn't make as much money

>>151631163
Aside from smoother sprites, which makes going up and down hills and loops incredibly satisfying, the physics felt more or less the exact same.

>>151631361
You don't have to.

>>151632016
Alright, I could understand at least part of the other retardation in this thread but this is taking it way too far. Dimps is fucking trash and you're trash.

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I want to marry BACK OFF MY WAIFU!

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>>151631649
Which is exactly my point. This isn't SEGA's flunkies we're dealing with. These ARE fans who are making Mania and they demand the same amount of perfection from themselves.

>>151632071
Sure, Sonic's base movement seems to be the same, but check the subtler things: For example, the Bubble Shield. There's footage of it being used in Mania and, unlike in Sonic 3&K, when bouncing onto a sloped surface, Mania's Bubble Bounce move will actually react to the terrain, whereas Sonic 3's does not. It just kind of spazzes out a bit.

I'm willing to bet that Mania's physics will incorporate everything that the Classics had but, with the help of modern hardware, will be able to crank out even more accurate physics calculations, allowing for even more accurate physics than even the Classics could offer.

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>>151631361
Right now because it's shitflinging hour
Therefore, you're waifu a SHIIIT

>>151631361
I choose the first 3
Boom games are trash and the TV series, while probably the best Sonic has had, still have a few flaws

>>151631546
This isn't the right general for you if you hate gameplay

>>151631597
>saying "git gud" to someone bashing the most casual mechanic introduced to the franchise

>>151623587
Pontac and Graff are the best writers Sonic's ever had and the only reason Colors and Generations' plots get hate now is because Lost World made everyone think they were always shit

>>151632701
>it's different and therefore it's ruined

that's basically any fanbase though

>>151632701
Oh right, I just meant the base run and spin gameplay. I didn't use any shields in the demo since I was messing with the drop dash.

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>>151632614
Only if I can get her older version.

>>151633189
Sorry, m8. But adventure is casual as fuck. Nothing but garbage tier level design and spam dashing with no repercussions. At least with boost we have side steps, hops, and stomps to keep things interesting.

>>151633314
But they were always shit (except for Eggman's PA announcements in Colors; those were actually pretty good).

>Adventurefags and Boostfags arguing over which shitty play style is better
You do realize that 3D Sonic was never good right? That he should just stick to 2D, right? Do you want this series to become more of a joke?

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>>151633458
your wish has been granted
farewell

>>151633801
>Sorry, m8. But adventure is casual as fuck.
Never said it wasn't
>dashing with no repercussions
OH NO! THE GAME ENCOURAGES SPEED INSTEAD OF PUNISHING IT! HOW AWFUL!

>>151633957
No they weren't. The plots were lighthearted, fun, and didn't take themselves too seriously, which for Sonic, is perfect. They also nailed Sonic and Tails as the cocky self assured hero and kid genius respectively. Their Eggman is the absolute best too

>>151623587
Unleashed is my personal favorite Sonic game. It has the best graphics, the most tolerable story, the best atmosphere/aesthetic, and its gameplay paved the road for Sonic's ultimately successful future. The Werehog in general is its only flaw, and hating the whole game because of it is retardation.

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>>151633984
>3D Sonic was never good
>This means that it CAN'T be good
>We should just give up and make Sonic 2D forever

All this does it show that you don't know enough about games to theorize a way that 3D Sonic could work.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLfYa47XliM

>>151634406
Or that I can recognize that all the attempts at 3D sonic just drive this franchise's reputation into the mud and that we should go back to what worked to restore it

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Will based Jun finally make a return for 2017?

>>151634702
Sonic Adventure is the exception to that

Pontiff didn't write the plots for Colors and Generations. They just wrote the dialogue. Lost World was the first time Sega actually gave Pontaff free reign over the plot (granted, using characters created by Sega's marketing team). And look how well that turned out.

>>151633984
What are you, a nerd? Speedrunning the Modern Generations levels is satisfying as fuck.

>>151635130
I hope

>>151635273
Then they're great at dialogue then, so they should use the same set up they had for Colors for future games

>>151635661
>They're great at dialogue
HAHAHA EGGMAN MORE LIKE BALDY MCNOSEHAIR HAHAHA MEMES

>>151635756
Meme all you want, they still understand Sonic and co. That's exactly the kind of thing Sonic would say

>>151635215
pffff hahaha.
No but seriously, I don't think the 3D games are that bad, but they tend to lag behind other series transitions to 3D. Sonic feels like it's always learning on a curve. I think both Mario 64 and megaman legends play better in just control and how the camera works. SA1 has some handling issues and a somewhat open ended hub world.But if you look past that stuff, it's a fine game. Had lots of ambition and the story ain't half bad.
SA2 fixed some of these and so did Heroes, but it was around this time that Shadow and 06 came out which kinda set the "Sonic games suck" standard. I thinkk sonic games on average are about average or maybe a bit below at worst. It's more that people have high expectations for it because it's a company mascot.

>>151635950
I dunno. Not as biting as "Egghead" or "Robuttnik". It's too cluttered to be snappy. Although I think it was delivered better in lost world at least.

>>151635950
Sonic is not a meme-spouting moron, he's a level-headed hero with a "go get 'em" attitude. The only real reason he acts snarky is because he wants to energize and loosen up his team. You don't get Sonic at all, and neither do they.

>>151634498
Well, at least some of them were able to beat Green Hill, I guess.

>>151636661
You don't get him. Sonic's a 2cool4u cocky motherfucker who doesn't take things seriously unless he has to. Pontaff get this 100%

>>151636142
>Mega Man Legends
>good controls

>>151636661
>I know this fictional character better than you know this fictional character let me tell you how deep and complex sonic the hedgehog is.

Guys, Sonic's personality is whatever it needs to be for the game. It's almost the most unimportant thing of the games because it only affects how he'd act in a cutscene.

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>>151637125
so if he's like pic related during a whole game, it's okay right?

>>151637125
Doesn't that apply to all characters in general? Their personality and actions are whatever the story needs them to be
>>151637398
If the story needs him to be that way, yes

>>151637125
It's a good thing most of the modern games avoid making him cocky because it isn't necessary.

>>151637728
He's still cocky though. He constantly boasts about how he'll beat Eggman and destroy his robots.

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>>151599406

>>151637860
At least it's endearing instead of obnoxious and annoying like Pontac and Graff wrote him in Lost World.

>>151638037
But I do love Sonic.

>>151623587
Sonic Labyrinth is not a bad game.
Tails Skypatrol is a good game.
3D Blast is not unenjoyable.
Generations is overrated.
Colors is massively overrated.

>>151638070
Lost World was pretty bad, true. Pontaff should stick to what they excel at: lighthearted relatively low stakes goofiness. Thankfully that kind of thing works well for Sonic. Sadly 2017 looks to be taking itself too seriously. Hopefully it's like a dream sequence or something and we get something like Colors and Generations

I've always felt that most of the 3D games would've been great if not for some sort of "Shit Catalyst", which usually happened unluckily when they try something ambitous like 06 or launching the Boom series. For once I want them to go big and do it right, and I'm hoping that's what Project 2017 is doing.

>>151638037
He looks so vulnerable.

>>151638576
I don't want them to go big again. It doesn't really work for Sonic

>>151639837
Sure, but then you get another "eh, it's okay" game and that's starting to get tiring.

>>151638435
LW should have had a story closer to Colors, I still cant get over how some of the fanbase spammed the "WOAH HE SAID YOUR GOING HOME IN A BOX AND DIE THIS IS DARK FOR SONIC"
fuck that shit man.

Why do we even have voice actors if you guys want the story to be so devoid of stakes or action that nothing they say is important? It's a waste of time, effort, and money.

>>151640462
It's just some shitposters. Wait it out for a couple of hours and they'll leave.

>>151640462
Because people like the way to portray the characters and not the way they scream at people.
Boom works fine with no drama or action.

>>151640778
>People have an opinion I don't like
>They're shitposting

It's a dumb argument, but it's not really shitposting.

>>151640462
Because Colors and Generations still had some stakes and action, just not a lot. It's also harder to be funny without dialogue and it's kind of expected of games nowadays
>>151640778
How is liking Pontaff shitposting?
>>151640346
Agreed. Colors set the standard for what a Modern Sonic story should be, and I don't get why Lost World ignored what worked for the sake of dumb drama

>>151641061
Sonic Colors is a modern day Sonic 2

>>151640462
If I'm honest, a sonic game that worked with less dialogue would be fine for me. Just imply through action rather than speaking. But that's just me.

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>>151641061
Honestly, if Sonic Lost world dropped the angst and made the Zeti just a little less one note, it'd be fine. It occurred to me that the Zeti are just sega koopalings, but the reason koopalings work and Zeti don't is Koopalings are mute. They HAVE to be stereotypes because there's nothing that informs their personality but their actions. Meanwhile the Zetis are a stereotype and then all of their dialogue is "This is my stereotype. I'm this one. Can you tell what my gimmick is yet?". It's too excessive.

That said, of all the villains, I wouldn't mind the Zeti becoming a mainstay tertiary to eggman. A group that hates sonic but also hates eggman and can take control of electronics with electro magnetism. All they need is some better writing and they'd be a pretty cool group. Also they have a cool theme song.

>>151642524
you could be the first, anon

>>151643078
I'm already making custom sprites, to do a fan game with recycled graphics would feel like a step backwards

What would happen if you stole a chili dog from Sonic?

>>151644284
Depends, am I Eggman?

>>151644338
You can be whoever you want to be.

>>151644460

can I be Sonic

>>151644583
Sure, you are Sonic and you stole a chili dog from Sonic.

>>151645047

he'll never catch me

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>>151645047
>>151644583

>>151644284
Pretty sure he'd take it back from you before you even noticed.

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>>151645398
What if you smack it to the ground?

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>>151645916
God, that just looks so fun to use.

There's a strange inner satisfaction with finally having a Sonic game with accurate Genesis style physics after 20 years. It's like finally rubbing an itch you could never reach, or being able to eat your favorite food that's unusually hard to get for some reason.

>>151645916
That's beautiful.

>>151646416
Too be fair advance 1&2 had pretty good physics

>>151645292
Which one is faster?

>>151646602
Oh yeah, I forget about Advance games.

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I miss Jason Griffith.

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>>151647350
Wonder how long the current cast's contract is. We already lost Tails' VA after Lost World.

>>151646602
Seems most people have

Are there any games that are similar to Sonic Adventure that aren't Sonic games?