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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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Rank 8 Clerics: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=573
Weekly Q&A: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=574
Patch Notes:https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=580
Soon https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=579

Previous: >>151402246

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Soon™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Fweequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/EKj7gY7C

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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Fencer is the best class.
Except Lolipan's.
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>>151484765
>dvine shitposting even with ops now
lmao, thank god I'm not on the ded drama filled server
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>>151484680
2 and 4 were asked million times
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It's time, post Good Builds™.
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>>151484851
>shitposting
This is possibly the most harmless thing dvine has ever been involved in.
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=600

> Swordsman - Physical Attack from STR multiplier has been increased to x2.0 (from 1.3).

Time to roll a swordsman.
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Fwee
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New weekly Q&A: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=600

I still haven't seen any proof of bots actually running the 130 dungeon, it's more likely that it's an issue with the PvP arenas clogging up instances. The issue is less apparent / non existing the days after a patch and it just gets progressively worse, no reason why bots would exhibit this behavior.
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>>151484892
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>>151484892
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>>151484986
At least she can somewhat redeem it with ele3
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>>151484584
WHICH YOU GUYS WILL PAY FOR ANYHOW

I WANT TO BE A KOREAN MMO DEVELOPER
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>>151484892

I can see cryo 3 ele 3 working at the pvp
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>>151485031
There is literally NOTHING wrong with costume collecting.
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/Ohayou/ when?
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>>151484969
>day after a patch
>most bots are offline due to patch
>after awhile bots are reawakened and back in the game
>130 dungeon gets the game clogged up due to bots running 130 constantly for 750k each char
You are delusional if you think bots aren't full running 130 dungeon non-stop when it offers over 3x as much shekels as any alternative since most bots can't reach vedas (200 map thats the endgame map for bots) or other high end maps and its much more efficient just to solo run 130 dungeon with a script with their low level bots.
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They've been trying to kill me for 4 hours now.

I must of really got under their skin.

P E T T Y
E
T
T
Y
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>>151485202
That is a downyhayou
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>>151485252
GOLDEN
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>>151485252
did they not realize the moment rance came and joked around with them that the whole thing was stupid and pointless? holy shit
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>>151485252
Gotta love this cunt.
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Is it possible to get over 7 fps while playing this game yet?
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>>151485204
You think it takes 3 days for bots to start running again? I saw bots in tenet church 20 minutes after the server was up. I don't deny it's a possibility but bad coding from IMC is a more likely explanation. Besides, wouldn't you see bots trying to enter the dungeon unless there was a backdoor to join dungeons without being near the statue? That kind of thing would probably be public by now.
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>>151484765
Is the game really dead?
I've been so busy the past month and a half I haven't been able to play. I just want to get back to comfy
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>>151484951
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>>151485539
Its not ded in SEAmonkey servers, its ded elsewhere, e.g. 8k in varena/telsiai and 2k in klai/orsha/silute/fedi
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>>151485610
fffpfpttptpfffsssssstt
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>>151485252
>4 hours
perfect for futurecucks. the guild is filled with lying nu-male who do creative writing as blogposts. i spent 3 minutes in the channel little guy. your life isn't worth 4 hours of my time
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>>151485048
>>151484986
>somewhat
If they ever hit quick cast with a crippling nerf, adding kino for the combo will make an interesting Build of Princesses.
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>>151485643
I guess I'll just stop my download then ;_;
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>>151485689
You're still trying.

Man don't you retards have anything better to do?
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>>151485718
If you are a SEAfag the game is worth to play, biggest downside is getting cucked by deadpledia times for PvP when it should be the other way around considering the game is played only in SEA
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>>151485680
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>>151485718
>caring about randoms
/tosg/ is still alive and well
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>>151485702
>if they ever nerf it
Not gonna happen
At best, it's gonna be around 25%, even with that, it's still a big asset to have.
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Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!
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>>151485967
EU server too?
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>>151486081
You have a guild, I don't see what you're complaining about when some servers like varena doesn't even have that.
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>>151486081
>EU
>/tosg/
Yeah, i guess, never was big
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>>151485803
i'm not trying anything little guy. somebody else doesn't like you so they're camping on you. welcome to dina bee farm
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>>151486123
I'm not complaining. just informing before I install this 8 GB game using my shitty internet with like 10 GB of space left.
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>everyone in TBL today is a full con something
>even the archers are full con

Stat reset potion is a mistake.
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Is that Futurecuck necro still giving KIRITO of all people free exp?
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>>151486081
Plenty of euros play on Klaipeda. Pings only get really bad if you're in Russia or something.
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>>151486337
They'll regret it once we get new pve content with r8.
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>>151486151
You're the only guild I've met here that turns farmville into a warzone.

You guys really need to find a hobby.
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guys...I fucked up...
I didn't know that the daily mystery box had a fix reward each day

I missed out on a stat reset potion
I....I thought it didn't matter....so I just opened them all straight away.......
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>>151486396
It's really Kirito? He must be afk, so can you use ice walls to knock him down?
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>>151486651
>2017-1
>not being a good samaritan
Take that, greedy fuck.
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>>151486651
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>>151486425
I was gonna say that I dont feel like relvling and regearing and all that
but i just saw there were only 2 active channels in Fedi, so I guess I'll just move over to NA
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>>151486651
>being a greedy cuck
>gets punished hard for not giving the item back
Its times like these I feel theres justice in the world
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>>151486337
No, Base Damage/Base Damage + % dmg skills were a mistake.

All skills should be % based on a x status, at least for the majority of the damage.
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>>151486651
serves you right. just fucking read the event info
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Does SPR adds status resistance?
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>>151486618
dina bee farm was a war zone from the start futurecuck. that's where your guild did half of it's gvg
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>>151486829
Placebo
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>>151486651
YOU DESERVED IT FAGGOT THE LIST IS RIGHT ON THE EVENT PAGE AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>151486829
Yes.
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So I'm finally rank 5 and haven't quit out of disgust yet. Should I start trying to gear up properly, or just continue to level up while playing with whatever equips I receive from mobs and quests?
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>>151487083
no gear besides quest gear till 220
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>>151486710
>>151486712
>>151486750
>>151486789
>>151486912
NOT FAIR NOT FAIR NOT FAIR

I DIDN'T KNOW

I WANT IT I WANT IT
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>>151487174
Wait for a future event anon, now you know what happens to greedy faggots who don't think before they do anything.
You'll know better next time.
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>>151486904
The war is over, it's time to move on.
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>>151487174
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>>151487083
Some high end mats drop from lower mobs, but don't put much effort into anything you wouldn't wear up to the cap.
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>>151486425
Like 35-40% of Fedimian are russians, so I don't think it's that bad for them.
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>>151487174
>literally plastered on their website
>not fair
It would've been a lot more interesting if the drops weren't listed like that. No point in having excitement in finding out what's inside.
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>>151487329
Would've been a nice social experiment to see how many people are actually nice enough to turn in boxes each time when they don't tell you anything.
Would've been even better if the first 3-4 days they gave nothing but bravery potions to put off everyone from delivering them.
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>>151487445
>Being enough of a cuck to care about an NPC's feelings
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>>151487445
I'd still deliver them every time, where's the fun in just opening.
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Will I miss out on something if I won't complete the last Forest of Prayer quest to use it as a warp point for 130 dungeon?
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>>151487718
You can have 10 bucks OR
the thing that's in this box!
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>>151487718
Fucking this, why would you want to just open the box?
>I login, I right click box, fun event guise!
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>>151487898
nigga, the statue is right there
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>>151487898
You miss out a few additional quests but nothing amazing or that matter since the card exp at those levels are a joke.
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>>151487945
I'm too greedy and penny-pinching to pay...
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>>151487321
All the active guilds on fedimian are russinas
Coffee is one of the last not russians active guilds
And yet a lot of the active players left are russians
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>>151487945
>wasting shekels to port there each time
Forest of prayer is one of the best places to keep a port to as it has
>130 dungeon full run/rush for silver/petamion
>145 dungeon
>flower branch headpiece chest at x:00
>wb
>legwyn shekel event which STILL has not been patched away (meaning if you bug it out with 5 people at the same time, its still 300k+ each run)
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>>151488047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LydK6FZTpPc&ab_channel=DjukiNew1957

Privet
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Rance, what's your necro build again? Are you gonna reset now that we got a free pot? I'm comparing matk with mine.
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>>151488047
There are a couple of Frog guilds too.
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>>151488171
All germans, spanish and italian guild have left though
Frogs, slavs and the rodent, nothing else
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>>151488161
Rance can't answer, he's busy getting harassed by Jace
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How much damage is a full CON DT on pvp per tick on 0% attri? It's 20 hits total right?
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Do you think they'll ever fuse Orsha and Klaipeda servers together?
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>>151488979
Mine hits for about 2k but I seen some people hit for like 800.
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>>151489318
Probs soon at the current rate since outside sea, all other servers are ded.

If you care about randoms that are non /tosg/ related, you'd do well to move to one of the seamonkey servers
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rip Rance
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>>151489418
Telsiai or Varena?
Will I even be able to communicate there?
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>>151489318
>Moved to Silute when server migration occurred
>They shat on the silute servers, mass dc, unbearable lag
>They returned the servers to USA and never changed back, no signs of ever going back to SA either.
>Can't even change back to Klaipeda or Orsha
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>>151489807
Telsiai for the true /tosg/ guild.
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>>151489837
stay gone we dont want you back
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>>151489328
That's on full CON in PVP? I just can't survive that.
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>>151488979
Pretty easy to work out, just plug full con stats in a calc and find the mattk for that build add that to theurges skill damage and add 400 or so magic attack for gear and then times it by 1.5 for quick cast then quarter it
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>>151489807
Telsiai tosg guild communicates entirely in English. Shout is almost all English, Randoms I've met either speak some English or are totally mute unless a fellow countryperson chats them up. Test your ping on the server and give it a shot.
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>>151489318
If they merge the servers then they need to merge Fedimian or offer another wave of transfers :^)
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>>151489457
I'm back! We watched the 2014 Fatal Frame movie. It was uh... very lesbian. Could have been worse.

Did you kill the monsters they changed? I can't figure out why those two want me to dislike them so badly.
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Fastest general of a dead game.
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>>151490768
Yea, there was 5 or so of those Lapes etc. hitting for 5k each
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>>151490768
great blog
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>>151490912
That's not a blog, anon. That's a movie review.
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>>151489920
Thank you for giving me motivation to reroll my cata on Klaipeda.
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>>151488161
Sorry, didn't see this post. I'm 163 CON, 120 INT. Do you want to compare matk gearless or with my weapon?
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>>151490643
Thank you, I will try it out and see how it goes
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>>151491343
Arena normalized stats.
I'm getting 846 matk with a rod+shield, 950~ something with a staff.
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>>151492047
Unfortunately I wasn't able to find any screenshots I took in TBL with my stats open. I'll try to make one for you next time I compete.

I don't have any intention of re-statting right now, my build works well enough and I'm pretty happy with it.
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I just came here to laugh at you for still playing this piece of shit game.
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>>151492260
Okay thanks, with the recent block pen buff, equipping a staff works better for me.
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>>151492364
Found one in an old webm actually. I don't have my chestpiece on for some god awful reason but should serve your needs pretty well. I have the corona and a shield in this shot.
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>>151490768
maybe cause you're a passive aggressive nu-male who likes to lie and shitpost as anonymous? he got a real laugh at you lying about powerleveling him. he never leveled at alemeth on that character but at least you didn't brag about teaching him how to world boss.

he doesn't "try" to grief he does.
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What's the population like on servers? Mainly interested in Klaipeda and Femidian. Curious because of this.

http://steamcharts.com/app/372000
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>>151492579
Look, I'm not really one to feed into your constant ramblings, and I'm going to bed. But at some point you need to figure out that your friend is lying to you.

Have a good night, man. I hope you two feel better soon.
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>>151492579
>>>/v/
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>>151492708
>literally every time dvine accuses rance of lying he gets blown the fuck out
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>I'll never be this autistic
Thank God,
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>>151492579
>>151492708
Lmfao btfo
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>>151492489
Thanks.
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>>151492708

>Smiley-PH
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>>151492579
>>151492708
I used to think pedropan was the biggest embarrassment of tosg but dvine looks set to overtake him.
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Is NiceBoat dead on Fedimian?
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Anybody else shared on this suffering?
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>>151492694
Klaipeda has 400 or so more people than Fedimian, but 200 of these are bots.
Klaipeda has PvP unlike Fedimian where the PvP is so dead ranking isn't working
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>>151493812
Yes. It was horrible. 200 DPK
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>>151493437
It disbanded like 2 months ago
>>151493812
No, like 4 in less than an hour
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>>151493812
why would you report poor topl
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>>151493812
How much is it on telsiai, I have one but I don't see how much it sells on the market place.
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>>151492708
>lying
the only lie is that's somehow powerleveling somebody. if he forgot you ever grouped what does it matter to me? it's trivial so you naturally forget. you getting banned and your posts shit talking me deleted are a separate issue. just like all you calling him a piece of shit didn't suddenly disappear.
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>>151493972
I'm EU and was pissed off that they did the long awaited server transfer just when I had to take a break from the game and I ended up quitting the game because my character was stuck on Klaipeda, but I guess it's slowly turning out to be a good turn of events. Although I doubt the lag will allow me to do anything substantial in PvP..
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>>151494041
>It disbanded like 2 months ago

What happened to the people that were part of it?
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>>151493978
200 DPK? It's a lot more than that. I've gone over 200 kills without a cotton.
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>>151494225
I'm doing fine with 200 ping tho
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>>151494332
You're not the only one hunting them anon.
You DO understand dpk is channel based right as it always has been?
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>>151494413
>200 ping

Jesus Christ this instantly killed any motivation I had to return to the game.
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>>151494481
I've been alone on the map the entire time.
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>>151494554
I'm from SEA tho
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>>151494323
They rerolled on Klaipeda or quitted the game
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>>151492708
That's a nice looking chat box. Is that an addon? I hate this bubble garbage.
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>>151494781
I see, thanks.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/attention-newcomers/320510
Bet he is Eurofag
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Karga-san, a question.

Do people get to keep their hampsters if they're out of the guild? We currently producing more eggs than we could raise we're considering selling them by inviting people into the guild, give egg then kicking them out.
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Anyone wanna do storage i am tryin to make a party on klap
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please buy my manamana
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>>151495061
He's right you know.
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>>151495065
We haven't tried doing that (though we have a surplus too), but as long as they get the egg (but don't hatch it in your tower), or get the pet into their lodge, then they should be able to keep it.
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>>151494332
Here, no drops since that last one.
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How many hits is Rune of Justice?
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>>151495785
3
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What map does Vibora start giving lvl. 11 for exploration and kill count?
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>>151494186
>well he just... forgot, obviously. he wouldnt lie to me...
>and you called him a piece of shit after he was a complete shithead in the logs I posted of him when he tried to lose games just to spite you!
You're even more delusional than you act. Are you unironically in love with him? That's the only logical cause for being this blind.
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>>151495416
Approximately 400 kills.
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>>151485916
>the game is worth to play
2
months
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>>151495979
[citation needed]
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>>151494186

forget loli x atom

dvine is not complete without jaces cock in his throat
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>>151496112
>1,5m exp per
>lower level than him
>he's not lead and the group won't last 30 minutes cause it's shit
nice powerleveling retard. while he took a screenshot of it cause it's so important i wouldn't even remember it happened personally. so why is lying to me telling me it's powerleveling exactly?
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>>151496331
Requesting lolixatom doujin image with dvinexjace.
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>>151497312
That doujin was disturbing.
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>>151497619
It was p good
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>>151497813
It was just weird, specially the ending. I fapped all the same.
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neo-FP is so shit.
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>>151497909
>the ending
That's the beauty of doujinshis, you can fap to things that don't happen in real life,
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>>151497997
t. dvine
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>>151498050
Whatever you say senpai.
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>>151484913

They could literally put the multiplier to x10 and swordsman would still be shit.

STR>physical attack mulitiplier isn't the issue with swordsmam classes
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>>151497997
Why do you think so? Who left and who is left?
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>>151498369
>Swordsman
>Shit

Welcome to 2 months ago.
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Someone hook me up with the discord link.
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>>151498636
Is that a scabbard or a purse?
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>>151498814
A scabbard. That wasn't even ToS art.
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This party bug is something that a competent company would have a hotfix for an HOUR into introducing it.
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>>151485252
lmao thats the only faggot of FP i like.
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>>151498574
Some faggot named wasteoflife powerleveling Kirito of all people

Next gen cringy shit
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>>151499190
Just because you suddenly use caps doesn't mean we can't recognize you dvine-chan.
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How are you supposed to plan on how to build your character if they keep adding classes and the ones added later on could render your build useless?
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>>151499491
Wait until r10 before playing.
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>>151496309
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>>151499576
Hi misinfo agent
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>>151499630
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>>151498636
>2 months ago.
>2
>months
das it mane
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Thanks for applying to Crimson, guys! :kissing_heart:
Some of you already joined and I'm very happy to see you guys around.

As of now, we only have a few slots left until IMC decided to increase the guild slot in the future.

At the moment, we are currently looking for people who can participate at GvG both at 9pm and 12am server time. But if you can't attend at both times, at least I hope you can attend at 12am one.

As for the list of classes that we urgently need :
1. Necromancer c2, must have Wizard c3 and Linker
2. Cannoneer, must have Scout and Falconer
3. Krivis c3, must have Cleric c2, preferrably with Druid c2/Oracle-Kabbalist
4. Dievdirby c3, must have Cleric c2, preferrably with Oracle-Kabbalist/PD
5. Psycokino c3, preferrably with Wizard c3 and Warlock

We prioritize players with high playing hours, players who are available for GvG, and players with multiple characters (especially if they have the characters that we are looking for) so they can fill multiple roles in GvG.
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Why wont you people just let it die already
why are you giving money to someone who doesn't deserve it
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>>151499723
Hi misinfo agent
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Crimson shills have no shame
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>Many weeks/months ago
>Still enjoying ToS
>Posting on the Japanese twitter for the game a couple times
>Stop playing and posting
>Fastforward a few more weeks to now
>Random twitter message from a Japanese person
>They say that they saw my messages ages ago
>They suggest that we play ToS together when it releases over there
>Open beta isn't even starting until the end of August

What the fuck man.
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Playing on a really shitty comp. I get 16 (average) fps in a town in a low populated channel. In dungeons, the fps drops to 4 when people are attacking shit with numbers flying all over the place. It's usually not too big a problem when I'm just soloing (average around 9-11). Any way to make it a little more tolerable? I want to play this game but fuck, is the lag just unbearable.
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>>151500127
Tried lowering all settings?
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>>151500127
Go to setting, turn all the shit off, also use the warmode addon
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>>151499857
:kissing_heart:
:kissing_heart:
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>>151500341
>>151500381
This is what it looks like right now. Any way to make it better (or worse in this case).
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>>151500114
TELL HIM THE TRUTH
DON'T MAKE HIM FALL FOR THE LIES
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>>151500456
Resolution lower, no camera vibration and then download warmode addon.
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>>151500456
Go to whateveritscalleddirectory/TreeOfSavior/release/user.xml
Open it in notepad
Resolution mode: 0
DrawActorPresent: 15-30 (15 if your computer is really really shit, 30 is fine for most 3-4 year old laptops)
DrawMonsterPresent: 30-50 (same explanation as above)

I get consistent 40-60 fps outside gvg/wb which I get around 10 fps.
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So what are all those Unused attributes on tos.neet?
Are they all I can expect having?
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>>151500897
Ones that people complained about back in early beta versions which made them get removed.
E.g. aggression
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>>151499857
Fuck off Moesaki.
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>>151500897
Fuck I deleted a part of the phrase
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>>151501005
Thank you, so I shouldn't expect any of them, right?
I thought that "Ein Sof: Maintain Time" was something from R8...
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>>151501182
>Ein Sof: Maintain Time
Isn't this attribute already available in game?
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>>151500514
tried the lowest resolution + windows mode. FPS increased but it's ant mode. Can't read the text unless my face is glued to the screen.

Also tried the warmode. It helped. Thanks a lot. Strangely, if you disable game graphics and hit a stamina tree, you don't regain stamina. Guess it's triggered by seeing the numbers.

>>151500791
Tried it. Didn't notice any increase or decrease or change in the game.

Anyways, I appreciate the help. It's better (average about 40fps while soloing which is twice as good as before).
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When can we expect game optimization?
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Swordie/High3/Hop2/Goon
Melee debuffer @ Goon2

Thoughts?
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>>151501869
Never.
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>>151501751
>tried the lowest resolution + windows mode
Use fullscreen.
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>>151501912
Good build
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>>151501869
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>>151501912
Why would I take your goon over a goon which has pelt?
The new grinding meta has no room for a pure debuff melee as the slots will be taken by:
>doppel madara
>goon2 with 100% att boost for doppel madara and pelt for swashbuckle
>chrono
>any cleric with cleric2 and/or priest 3
>any archer fill for bonus exp

No room for a pure buffing goon unless for some reason you're in a subpar party
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>>151501912
>Melee debuffer
>utility spearman
>no peltasta for the only utility people really want you for
Don't know mate. I'd shove peltasta somewhere in there.
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How is pyro2 eleme3 warlock? I've seen someone using that build and I wonder if it has any niche
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>>151486651
If you haven't post this i would be in the same misery as you anon. Thank you
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>>151501869
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>>151502143
This is everything wrong with MMO games. Forcing cookiecutter build formations.
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>>151502385
Terribly outclassed but wiz3ele3.
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Do I actually need SPR as bokor?
I wanted to go full INT, but now I have my doubts
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>>151502896
Of course you don't.
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>>151502494
>if I want to be a dps wizard, I need wiz3
That's really gay
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>>151501912
I have that build. It's already strong, R8 will make it even better.

>>151502154
Or just get one of the aggro quests. It has a bit smaller range than swashbuckling, but you don't need to sacrifice an entire rank for it.
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>>151503117
Awesome. Thanks for confirming and nice tip about the aggro quests, totally didn't think about that.
I was going to roll it anyway even though people didn't seem to like the idea but that makes it sound even more viable than I initially thought.
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>>151502896
depends on your build show us your skill build anon.
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Your name dropping klaishit drama is the most pathetic and tedious crap I've read on 4chan this year.

Delusional little faggots.
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>>151503654
dont you have et to do? europoor?
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>>151503654
t. president of estonia
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>>151502995
Devs don't know what to do so we have Quick Cast attribute.
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>>151503646
Tentatively this:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4114448e.1a2a355461.1a2f31445161798193.21314155617195.142531415361
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>>151495785
Five true hits.
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>>151504045
Damballa is really bad anon, samediveve at 10 is really good for the free speed and the free hp and also the buff is 2 mins of duration, mackangdal is really too for pvp and earth tower too.
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>>151505817
Samediveve gets rounded down for the player, that extra point won't get him any more movement speed.
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>>151505957
divine might and you get that bonus. +7 of bonus speed with divine might, so its really worthy.
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>>151505957
Divine Might...
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>>151505957
Play the game
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How much SPR so my collar bomb will not get resisted by mdef mobs like earth apparition?
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>>151506194
it doesnt help
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Someone on the forums mentioned that there aren't any enemies that are "truly" immune to bleed.
What did he mean by this?
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>>151506350
rock enemies. (or i don't know if they are earth property) but rock mobs usually.
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>>151506330
Thanks for the info! I'll suck your feminine dick now
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>>151506481
W-what?
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How much should I charge for a Venier recipe in kekpedo? there are none in the market
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>>151506698
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Reminder that Klaicucks are terrible at pvp and faggots like Vanzel shitting up the thread with a bug makes it worse
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>>151506880
sauce
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>>151506880
Source please
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>>151506481
Perhaps you misunderstood the post..?
The idea is that we know there are enemies that are bleed immune, or at least that's the assumption. Someone made a post that implied that this is not true and that all enemies can be bled by some means.
If this is true, how does one get around the apparent bleed immunity... or am I just being misinfo'd by the forum poster?
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>>151505817
>>151506124
>>151505957
Thanks, if I will not add points to Hexing after 7, will it be enough?
But about that SPR, in the end, do I need it here?
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>>151506880
What sort of horrible crime against Venera-sama is going on there?
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>>151507216
You don't need SPR, and hexing is okay at level 10, i think its a must at least at level 10 now about PD, pandemic at that level is okay too and honestly your build look like a pvp build so mackangdal and Safety Zone is a beast in pvp you can be inmortal with that combo and kill everyone in pvp consider maybe to get more levels for mackangdal.
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>>151507142
Maybe you can use certain monsters that inflict bleed status as a Druid?

Monster skills seem to follow weird rules a lot of the time.
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>>151507142
That all sounds a bit convulted.
Could it be that said monsters just have a disgustingly high bleed resistance, which is what they mean by saying there's no ''truly'' immune monster to it? Or do we have numbers for stuff like resistances?
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>>151501869
when everyone stops playing lmao
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>>151506330
Confirm they aren't DPK
Got 2 cotton in less than 50 kills there in Sicarius
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>>151508323
delete this, it pains me. Please come back
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don't you europoors need to start learning russian?
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>>151510228
Never do anything halfway. If you're going to bully, do it properly.
Hold your head up high.
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where do I take my daily koenig now?
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>Still playing this shit
>Tree of Savior
>7 Years
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>all these faggots whining about some shit monk attention whore
This general is so much better without them.
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A2-Ranger3-SR2 or A2-QS3-SR2?
I seem mostly Quarrel Shooter Reiters but none of them will tell me why its good. One in a dungeon party told me he went QS3 because Reiter abilities suck which seems like a dumb reason to me.

I mostly want something to farm items and maybe 130 with. Or would I be better off with a corsair3 for Jolly Roger or a thaum or something?
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>>151511197
a2qs3sr2 is the standard 15min 130 dungeon farmer

You can park it at 130 dungeon and 240 saalus each day until you get a didel, its not worth playing if no didel after 240
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Can it be that I can't use my own Ausrine?
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>>151499543
Yeah, wait till cossack!
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/Ohayou/ when?
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>>151511030
>tfw played a real game like dota yesterday with my ToS crush
>so much fun with fluid fps, working mechanics and good matchmaking
>go back to ToS
>get stuck casting quickcast for 3 seconds
>then again stuck for 4 seconds casting surespell
>enemies get desynched across the map from earthquake
>fps? lol here's your 10 fps, human eye can't see more than that hehehe
>party questing? hehehe whats that, white piggu has no friends
>huh? You wanna sit comfy in Fedimian? NO FPS FOR YOU

This game would actually be GOTY for all eternity if it wasn't made from korean garbage code.
Never seen a game with so much squandered potential
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Everyone shut the fuck up, if you have nothing of note to say then just go and play the game.
Actually, since the game won't let you do most instanced content and party questing you should all just fucking quit already.

>>151511083
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>>151512414
mia...
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>>151513554
buy my manamana
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performing detailed measurements of moonie's cleavage
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>>151513812
Sluuuuuuuuuuuut
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>>151513812
moonie is a real girl btw, I'm friends with her IRL, she´s pretty
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>>151514441
t. moonie
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>>151514441
And also has a dick
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>>151514441
Post tits
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>>151514441
can girls be cucks?
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>>151513812
Good work.
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I need this to be TOS-ified
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>>151516131
Yes it is
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>>151515464
did somebody say cute?
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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>151516489
Does Sandvich ever feel like a third wheel between Majiene and Merigolds?
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>>151516489
cutevival soon?
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>>151515464
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>>151516502
>concocted by those who have made good choices
>by a numbskull walking around aimlessly in a field for 2 weeks straight looking for a box sitting next to a sign every day
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>>151515464
Lewd is cute.
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>>151516727
no
things happens when everyone blink
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>>151516727
Three wheels are what makes a ride stable, anon.

>>151516809
soon.
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>>151516489
>A bully sandwich
>Cute
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>>151516809
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>>151517021
Well now we know why sandvich is a bully
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>>151515365
Cuckqueans
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>>151515672
who and who?
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>>151518031
me on the left
you on the right
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>>151512123
Is the Korean version suffering from the bugs?
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>>151518369
Yes
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>>151518912
Need one with a burrito and with a dildo written "atom" as templar.
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>>151518652
how much worse is it compared to iToS?
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>>151519216
It's the same shit yo
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>>151519345
Boys are not allowed in the guild hall.
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>>151518031
The Kotatsu Kanon Kouple of Kourse
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>>151513812
The left one seems bigger for some reason
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just got an ignition

do i upgrade it? how do i do this correctly?
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>>151521874
yes please.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/275850/

Found a hyped game that ended up worse than TOS!
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>>151519979
>outlaw servers
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guys I accidentally a world boss
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>>151523892
look at this guy's name
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>>151523892
delete this
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>>151523892
>giving up halfway through Mind-controlled Lizardmen to go do something--- anything else
cant say i blame you
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what happened to the build faq? its not in OP
wanting to make a whore alchemist but i guess since its already a whore ill go with whatever class i want. but i remember there being a "git-gud" faq or some shit
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>>151524401
Huh, wonder if the guy is still working on it
Most Alchemists basically want to make themselves into useful supports since they'll have shit DPS. With only the lower ranks to work with your main choices for being a support whore are Linker or Thaumaturge. I believe PyroThaum is the most popular one, but it almost doesn't matter, really.
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>>151523892
Is it still up? And for clarity, which server?
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>>151524742
probably still up, I left because i aint got time for that shit
Ch1 Klaipeda
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>missions literally taking more than 20 minutes

really now.
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>>151524742
ded
>>151525112
Thanks
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>>151524702
i just want to powerlevel and be somewhat useful. but i plan on solo'ing everything (since partys are bugged) so im not sure linker/thaum would be anything less than hell.
would the linker/pyro meme work with low circles?
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>>151525383
PyroLinker is always a good choice.
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>>151525652
hate to bug you more, but what pyro/linker build would you recommend if i planned on going c3 alchemist?
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>>151525383
Wiz3Link2 will give you a way easier time soloing things than Pyro2Link2.

Hangman's Knot Magic into Missile decimates everything while Fireballs are just terrible to use.
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>>151525383
pyro2 linker sorc alch2 is the most common build
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How hard is it to +10 a grand cross?
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>>151525949
oh i havnt thought of this, so my options are either wiz3link2 or pyro?link?wiz1
my intentions are for it to just be an alt which would awaken my main's gears + perhaps a few 200 dg run spams. nothing more
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Anyone here have close up pics of the QS3 outfit?
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>>151526154
If you want to just level up quickly, magic missile is was better than all pyro can offer, barring maybe fire pillar which is on a 95s cooldown anyway.

I went pyro2link on my alch and I regret it a lot.
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>>151526429
ill take magic missile linker then, appreciate it
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>Sir Excrulon
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Do I go even further beyond?
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>>151527130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_CcJ-uBWI
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>>151527130
I did that once, then it became +8
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>>151527130
QS friends why do all SRs go QS?
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>>151527587
Because they're both Crossbow classes and just work well together.
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>>151527587
because they want to go fast
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>>151525383
With the humonculus using your own spells, Linker3 could be a very potent support char, especially if the humonculus' cooldowns are the same as your own (or lower). Double the JP would be incredibly good in groups and dungeons.
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>>151511197
Ranger is kinda shit now that Steady Aim is nerfed, QS makes leveling ez and other archer skills have low synergy with SR as they dismount you.
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>>151527587
because it's only okay and the current meme build.
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>>151527703
>>151527752
>>151528537
What are some alternative R2-5 classes for a Reiter build? I can only think of ranger fitting in with the mounted-usable abilities.
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>>151520882
are you a girl?
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>>151528907
>sapper
Dismounts you
>hunter
Dismounts you
>wugushi
Pot dismounts you
>scout
Only flu flu and Flare shot won't dismount you, also >scout2
>rogue
>fletcher
nothing dismounts you, but >fletcher1

if you really want to meme, you could go archer2 ranger wugu2/wugu fletcher
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I'm curious, can flying enemies with reversi such as madakia take control of conversion circles and convert your mobs to their own side?
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>>151529327
Ranger3 is terribad right?
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>>151529327
Does the SR2 also depend on ping like QS3?
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>>151530000
Ranger 2 is terribad. Ranger 1 is Great and Ranger 3 is okay.
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>>151513110
But Anon.. that is Princess Heles.

>>151513812
>>151517108
>>151520882
cute lewdsters
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>>151527130
+20 or no balls
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>>151528907

wug2 is better than qs3, more DPS and better AOE.
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>>151530000
muh nerfed steady aim, mostly. ranger3 was really popular back in ktos becuase Steady Aim lasted 15s and gave +45% damage at level 15. People used to say Spiral Arrow was decent back in the beta, but I doubt that's the case now with this r7 power creep, never had the chance to use it.
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>>151530847
why was steady aim nerfed so much but wizards 100% uptime Quickcast is A-OK
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>>151531098
Wizard bias

Steady Aim needed to be nerfed imo, but idk, for most builds ranger3 isn't really worth it anymore
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>>151531098
Because wizards dps is borderline shit even with that.
As of R8 looks like every classes can outdps them.
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>>151531098
When it was time to nerf quick cast the devs pussied out because elememe is one of the most popular classes and other wizard builds also use it as a base.
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>>151531350
>can cast a thousand magic circles onto themselves, use pets and whatnot
>dps is shit without a single skill
I sometimes have a hard time believing that, but I remember people crying wizards were shit back in the beta
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Hey guys is Dragoon any good?
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Reminder that Necro3 will be best single target dps in the game due to skeleton archers with attributes
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>>151530698
Doesn't throw gu pot dismount you though?
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>>151530698
This. People really underestimate Wugu2/3 damage because all they ever see is the Wugu in group where every group blows up instantly and you can't tell just how much damage the Wugu is contributing.
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>>151531754
>but I remember people crying wizards were shit back in the beta
well yes. in ICBT all wiz was mediocre at best. nobody took wiz3 except for a few retards and everyone was laughing about them. QC is really stronk but if they nerf that a lot.. could just delete the whole wiztree
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>>151531970
You ever play a mounted class?

There's not much to it getting dismounted, especially if its only 1 skill
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>>151530698
No it isn't
>>151531982
Wugushit is bad
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Anyone know what stats I should be getting on my Wizard C3? (using a reset)
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>>151531970
Yes, so don't bother with Wugu. You'll regret it.
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>>151531754
Both archers and wiz were mediocre in beta. The best builds were barbarians and sadhu interestingly.
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>>151532171
what build?
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>>151532171
Full con. Quickcast power boost makes up for lost int.
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>>151532301
>>151532138

t. wugu misinfo agent who wants to keep his snowflake stay lowkey OP
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How do we unbully the monk?
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>>151532396
Shut up idiot, that's not the reason. Wugu is hardly OP. The more wugus there are the worse it is for every other wugu.

Don't go Wugushit please, the Wugushi community begs you.
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Wugu Reiter wouldn't be that great for farming though right? Long cd
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>>151532613
we stop playing the game
its the only way
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>>151532316
this one: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPsR_8yAHu0XZjT-FNbiMiyQ7TjJfffI4F3vd2M7xbYGll7-tw_wZj7Rp8hS2lrNQ?key=d2pTY1RsdHVWbVM2ekVOdmlJM1E1UWxKNm9icjdn
elememe build
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>>151532138

When you use Running shot you're stuck doing shit AA's while a wugu2reiter can use poison and retreat shot for three times the amount of damage.

>>151531970

You don't need to use gu pot, you only use gu pot when you use wugong on a pack of 10-15 monsters. Stand far enough so that your pet doesn't generate agro so you could mount back.
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>>151532613
Don't try to unbully the monk
That's impossible
Instead try to focus on the truth
There is no monks
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What is the all around best class right now?

I'll only accept the right answer
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>>151532702
Yep, it would not. QS3 SR2 has the fastest 130 clear time of any class.
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Uhm, when is Mr. Kim going to fix party questing
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>>151532304
>The best builds were barbarians
Untouched from the beta, so it suffered from the r7 power creep, hahaman was just better with muh 0cd skyliner. It's good again after all these buffs

>and sadhu
Nerfed hard
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>>151532749
>you only use gu pot when you use wugong on a pack of 10-15 monsters
What are you talking about? Gu Pot is Wugushi's strongest burst. It also doesn't spread Wugong Gu so what are you saying?

And 3x the amount of damage? Either you're overestimating poison damage or you're underestimating running shot damage. Have you played either class or are you just theory crafting?
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>>151532728
for PvE:
little CON so you survive stuff. or 0 con if you are good/experianced/low-mediumPing.
i did fine without CON to 280. but used HP items sometimes

Roxo gear is crap. and Audra sucks for Wiz3>Ele3
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>>151532613
You make them reroll Chrono
Seriously, i need a Chrono or two
Give me Chronos for start farming 10F
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>>151527130
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>>151533301
Just make a Schwarzer Haufen, I heard they can solo ET
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>in TBL
>have 25.000 HP
>some ranged class bleeds me
>lose 24.000 HP from single bleed DOT

is this balanced?
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>>151533251
Thank you

So, full INT and a little bit of CON for surivival?
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>>151533835
yeah
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>>151533797
No, but it isn't news that fletcher is OP.
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>>151533797
Welcome to 2v2 roulette. It's just like 5v5 roulette except Fletcher is playable.
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>>151533229

>What are you talking about? Gu Pot is Wugushi's strongest burst.

Gu Pot doesn't have a property damage which means that it'll do the same amount of damage regardless of the monsters armor. With this in mind, it'll do shit damage regardless of what you pump up. WuGong is wugu's strongest skill because its a pierce property skill and it gets a 50% bonus of leather based enemies. Whenever someone spearlunges a monster, you get a 100% bonus on leather monsters. On monsters that aren't leather types, it'll get a 50% bonus. When it comes to DPS, WuGong still triumphs over Gu Pot because of Wugongs duration and skill point level (Wug2 WuGong lv10 and more attack power while GuPot lv5). Regardless of how much points you dump on Gu Pot, it'll only last 6 seconds while WuGong lasts 15 seconds.

>It also doesn't spread Wugong Gu so what are you saying?

It spreads when you equip a card to your poison pot, the whole point of GuPot is to spread Wugong Gu.

>And 3x the amount of damage? Either you're overestimating poison damage or you're underestimating running shot damage

At lvl224 my Wugong Gu does 4k and my retreat shot does 4-6k with 8k crits on a pack of 10 enemies. If you could still do Running + Retreat shot at the same time then QS3Reiter would do more DPS to a -single- enemy but they don't do that anymore so you're stuck with only Running Shot. When you add up the numbers, WuguReiter is doing more DPS because of the use of two skills over one concluding with a bigger number.

>Have you played either class or are you just theory crafting?

I played both, yes.
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>>151533674
Thats what i bring in my way too often chronoless runs
The SR just picked Lolo Boots with all the runs we did already
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A moment for my SR friend who lived in Crystal Mines that hasn't logged on in weeks.
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>>151536297
Fuck off. You'll never replace Koenig!
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lets have a game

find ToS

http://steamcharts.com/top
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>>151536890
no, let me play this shitty single player mmo in pieces
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>>151536890
t-t-t-t-top 60
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>>151536732
I don't even know what a koenig is you tall hoe. I just visit couple times a week.
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>>151536890
I wanna play a cute mmo with others

None of those are cute mmos
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>>151536890
>Tree of Savior has 1:1 the current "players" of Farming Simulator 15
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>>151537250
>cute mmo
>with others
excuse me sire you've taken a step into the wrong thread
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>>151535217
With all that in mind do you think it's better and less clunky as Sap2Wugu2Cannon or RangerWugu2SR2?
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>>151537502
This games kissing motions and emoticons are hands down the cutest I've ever seen in a game
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>>151538045
tera emotes are cuter
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>>151538197
i disagree
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>>151538197
Elin power!
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>>151538197
Tera is soulless as hell

Can't even sit or stand cutely together, your characters just stare into empty distance
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>>151535217
So you're a wugu yet you're encouraging others to play wugu? It's your duty to help protect us from people overwriting our poisons! You're supposed to misinfo people, not inform them!
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>>151538197
tera is sexy but not cute
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>>151537810

It depends if you get used to Retreat Shot or not. This is key and a lot of people seem to dislike how it works. If you feel like you wont enjoy Retreat Shot then go Sap2Wug2.

>>151538474

I'm a good girl today.
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>>151538495
Whatever you say champ.
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>>151538378
>Can't even sit or stand cutely together, your characters just stare into empty distance
meanwhile in tree of savior
Can't even party or quest cutely together, your characters just stare into empty distance
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>>151539080
>he doesn't know how to party quest
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>>151539080
Well I can play around that at least
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didn't she quit
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>>151539518
yes ;_;
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>>151539060
Hips are too wide, I don't like my lolis with wide hips.
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>>151539518
>was sitting on the ERP roof in Orsha like 12 hours ago
>quit
???
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>>151540121
I'm blaming the misinfo agents like >>151539817

You're still my favourite attention whore pls don't leave
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Level 156 and I still haven't touched my ferret questline.

I'll probably can afford to just use cards as I go at this point, yeah?

I really only play on the weekend due to work so I've just been doing dailies.
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>>151539518
>>151540121
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>>151540301
Nigga, install that addon that calculates the exp you get from cards, it's quite handy. The only reason to save cards is to use them to jump a grind wall or reach a rank if you're impatient, but I guess it won't be your case
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>>151540121
>ERP roof
ERP is not allowed there, hang yourself misinfo agent.
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>>151540301
yes

was just leveling through that spike last week and was 20 levels behind you, though cards only barely got me over the 186 hump. do all those quests and hold onto the cards, make damn sure you're going to get over 186 before you eat em up.
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Mochi mochi

Did IMC fix the disappearing costumes yet?
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>>151540121
Orsha roofs are not for lewd!
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What do you do if your crush is on another server?
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>>151541353
lol
>imc
>fix
>yet
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You know what bug bothers me? That every time I get a star shaped gem I get the ingredient notification for beetleback. The other recipes only do this when I don't have a prior item or once at most when I first get an item, but every single time I get a star jewel, I see that notification again.

Also that fucking sign in Klaipeda still says "notic" instead of "notice"
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>>151541353
NO, THIS IS THE WORST BUG IN THE ENTIRE GAME
I WANT MUH HAT IMCCCCCCCC
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>>151541384
>of all the roofs in orsha, klaicucks erp on that one

how lazy are you niggas? go get some privacy!
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>>151541646
I love that one - it's emblematic of the game
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>>151542498
Weak bait outlaw scum
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>>151542498
The one above Orsha princess and the far left are also good. I just don't have screenshot. This one is just comfy.
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>>151542703

this guys got the right idea
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>>151500456
>Performance
>Disable
They tell you to turn everything off and you turn off the low performance mode too? You're supposed to set it to low mode.
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>>151542498
Klaicucks just really want others to know that they're erping
It's like a social status there
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FACT: People trying to raise their hamshits are the ones clogging up dungeon instances.
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Guys, how does the Hoglan Voucher work
I haven't used mine from EA and am afraid the game will fuck up and spend my token money instead
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What's the best way to res someone? The visual bug makes it hard to properly res people.

Do I just try my best to remember where they died?
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>>151499857
HARDCORE

you fags could learn a thing or two from them
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>>151544162
Use the minimap when you can.
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>>151544053
>source: my ass
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>>151544053
You don't have to be jealous. You'll get your hamster soon enough.
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How is this game? I haven't heard anything about it since the whole beta thing in November
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>tfw hakkapeliitta will probably be shit but I'll play one anyway because memes

How the fuck do I build one? Do arrows only stick to targets if you AA? If so, I'd really want qs, but I really don't want to go qs. Even then, what the fuck do I even pick after that?
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>>151543146

disgraceful
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>>151544986
Fun but still buggy
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>>151541613
What bugs have they fixed, if ever?
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Is full CON viable on Diev 3?
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>>151545172
The one that lets you accept any quest in the game regardless of class or level.
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dvine will you be willing to trade this magnificent and ultra rare hat for 1k (1000) bee stingers?
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>>151545375
If you have Cleric 2, full CON is viable. Period.
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so.. the getting stuck in Party with boss thing
is it ever gonna be fixed?
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>>151543146
>>151542498
t. miss info
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>>151545514

Yeah, I'm Cleric 2 Diev 3.

Agonizing over going Druid 2 or Oracle 1 > Plague Doctor 1.
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>>151541384
>they haven't been invited to the orsha ERP roof ritual
You poor thing.
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>>151544986
>>151544986
Oh yeah, to add onto this, is ToS just like RO in that the end game is basically GvG? Because I fucking loved fighting over castles.
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>>151545691
Druid 2 is a lot more fun and simply far better in every aspect except TBL. If TBL is a big deal for you, Oracle is really nice to have, but Druid 1's still great too in large part because of Telepathy.
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>>151545957

No. The GVG is somewhat of a joke at the moment.

And guilds can claim neutral and just sit in their houses growing hamsters.
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>>151545019
SR for the glory of Gustavus Adolphus
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This is the best roof.

;_;
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>>151545997

If that's the case, do I still go full con or do I want some Int if I go druid? Little mad because I didn't think the stat reset potion was untradeable, so I can't move it over to a character I need it on.
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>>151545997

Keeping in mind I'd still like to be fairly useful in pvp.
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>>151545019

>shit

>Catacombs blade
>fucking two slot weapons in your offhand

manamana is dead
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>>151545691
>Oracle 1 > Plague Doctor 1
I don't understand this memel at all. Prophecy gives you 24/7 protection against 99% of the CC in the game. Bloodletting helps with a very, very small number of additional CC and isn't up all the time. You're basically taking PD for Incinerate and that's it. Fumigate doesn't help because your team aren't CC'd for you to remove unless you're against Raise and your team walked into it. Don't build around such a ridiculously specific fringe benefit. Take Oracle or PD, not both.
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>>151546397
Only PD1 can go PD2
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>>151546397

I'm looking at the long game. I like the idea of Dispel in PD 2.
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>>151546353
Go Oracle Druid1. You're already Diev3, now take Telepathy to make people eat popcorn in your owls.

>>151546187
Both work. Beethoven is Diev/Druid and is 1 to 1 CON to INT as far as I know, and he's a monster.
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>>151546819

Is he Oracle / Druid or just druid?
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>>151545478
this is the only hat i want
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>>151545019
What if you used a Shark Cutter with QS3 in TBL?
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>>151547109
>implying getting crown is hard

http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/quest_for_the_crown
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>>151546397
Prophecy isn't 100% uptime you fucking knob, when will this meme die? Tired of killing non-PD oracles because their prophecy can't handle CC spam.
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>>151547368
>Prophecy isn't 100% uptime you fucking knob.
But it is, though. In fact it's 120% uptime.
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>>151547448
play the game
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>>151547281
QS3-fletcher-wugushi2-hakkapälle will be the new meta
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>>151547368
>implying a rushing sword3cata3 would survive 10 procs of restrain before eating shit
Play the game.
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>>151547543
>>151547448

He's telling you it's not 100% uptime because it only blocks 10 instances of CC, which isn't that much.
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>>151547630

why fletcher1?
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Hello guys, did they fix the problem with party questing and the world map issue ?
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I still can't believe that they nerfed KR Skyliner and QC remains untouched
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>>151547872
I and they can't believe anyone still plays this
abandoned cashgrab

hehehe
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>>151547741
10 instances of CC isn't that much when the target is CC'd. Average 20 hits of psychic pressure or like 25 hits of restrain is feasible when those skills are already locking that target down. They aren't, though, they're being resisted, so instead your dumb melee range ass just gets blasted.
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>>151547816
Hi, no.
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>>151547802
broadhead inflicts bleeding
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are there any classes in this game that focus on damage over time effects? im looking over the classes now but there is so many of them. i wanna play a caster or rogue type character that uses poison/damage over time magic
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>>151548274
You're looking for Wugushi, in the archer tree. They're the DoT masters. Diev3 Druid2 is the other one, who focuses on area DoT effects rather than straight DoT debuffs.
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>>151548274
Wugushi
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>>151548248

wouldn't it be better if you go wug3 for full time poison?
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>>151547978
I can't believe theres still doomposters shitposting non-stop about a game they don't even play.
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>>151548274
Pyromancer has probably the best DoT in the game if combined wiz3.
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>>151548274
maybe wiz3 pyro3 linker sage?
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>>151546153
Literally who?
Fuck off, we have enough avatarfags, we don't need new ones.
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How do I make thaum3 not useless for soloing?
Wiz1-Pyro3-Thaum3-Sage?
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>>151548881
>New

good one
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Another person here, and if I really wanted Oracle just to mess around with monsters and loot what's the best way?
Bokor? Does it work with Diev too?
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>>151548937
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2127aaaf

Either way once enchanter comes around and you can scroll thaum buffs, thaums become worthless
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>>151549634
thaum is shit. pyro1 is too, get at least c2
and no dmg without QC
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>>151549634
>thaum buffs without attributes will make thaum worthless
Eh. I'm not convinced.
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>>151549863
The only worth of thaums are buffing world boss parties currently.
Once scrolls of thaum abilities comes around, why the fuck would you waste a world boss slot on a thaum when theres tons of other buffers or having a bonus dps to cover another spawn point.
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>>151548563
>>151548708
Does wiz 3 with pyro skills out-damage stacking hail and frost cloud over them?
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>>151550001
I wanted a thaum build mostly for swell so I could farm semi rare mats like stingers for guild friends. Do you really need linker for swell? Doesn't it still hit up to the skill level limit?
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>>151550185
Not until over 1300 matt and even then you're only doing slightly more damage than elememe fc.
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>>151550185
As long there isn't anyone knocking your fireballs around, you can easily do that.

Fireball has huge damage, and low cooldown plus overheat, at pyro 3 you can stack so many, and also apply debuffs from shit like Fire Pilar.

Needless to say, the boss need to be static, and NO SWORDSMAN/MONKS or whatever melee attacking.
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>>151550259
>want a thaum build mostly for swell
then you without a doubt want linker
>>151550185
1350~ matt is when you do comparable damage to an enemy frost cloud
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Archer2 > Hunter2 > Rogue2 >

I'm very close to r7 and I'm still at a dilemma here. Should I go Scout > Mergen to deal even more anti air thanks to the bow passive Mergen is getting? Getting scout will give me access to cloaking, but the only AoE I'll have until r8 is Flare Shot, which is shit at r7.

The other option is Cannon c1/c2, which is insanely powerful with full STR and sneak hit, but very clunky to use and I won't be able to get the jump on people in PvP. I can, however, grab them with retrieve or coursing and Hollywood them in place long enough to blow them up.

What should I do, tosg?
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>>151550647
Oh okay. Please explain though? Swell body's description lists a total number of targets. Doesn't that mean I can swell a bunch of stuff without linking to share the status effect?
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>>151550424
You can link the fireballs to bosses and they'll do really rapid damage, but swords seem to have some "break links on one hit" attribute or something turned on sometimes.

>>151550647
>>151550185
You understand I mean all pyro dots + hail and frost cloud(pyro3/ele3) vs wiz3/pyro3, correct?
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>>151550905
Have fun grouping them close enough to get hit by swell body without linker.
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>>151550945
>pyro 3 ele 3
what le fug
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>>151550713
>Hollywood them in place
That was an amusing autocorrect. Hold* them in place.
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>>151546819
>take Telepathy to make people eat popcorn in your owls

Telepath makes enemy invulnerable

>>151548000
You are underestimating the amount of CC flying around in pvp especially 5v5, sometimes 10 charge barely enough to get out from shit position

>>151546397
There's nothing wrong with rank 7 PD because PD C2 will get dispel.

Think of it this way:
>oracle/pd cast prophecy
>enemy pd2 use dispel to strip prophecy
>oracle/pd use bloodletting
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>>151550905
its a pretty small area, right infront of you.
gotta be a pain do without JP+HK, as >>151551064 wrote
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>>151546819
beethoven is diev3-druid-pd, no?
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>>151551294
Oh okay. How many linker circles would I want? Linker2-Thaum2 so the swell# and link# matches up? Then cap with Warlock at R7? Or is Thaum3/Linker okay too? I figure at this point without wiz 3 or any other damage classes my damage is laughably nonexistent anyways.
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>>151548274
You probably want fletcher
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222888.1123354551.1f2f315a6173.1f2c31415a6175

Guys I'm following this /tosg/ approved build for sage but is flame ground really not worth leveling?
Currently chrono 1 and the lack of damage is really making me have the need to decide where to put pyro skill points.
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linker2>thauma1

You rather want more points in link
Swell has overheat so you want to use both charges in succession instead of one at time


t. wizard enthusiast
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Will people forgive me if my Cryo3Chrono3 won't be full Con?
It's so mind-numbingly boring to solo that I'm about to give up!
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>>151552721
It might pass, but between a full con one and you they will choose the other.

If you're already choosing a hard leveling path, there's no reason to half ass it and make your effort be worth less.
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>>151552721
The few extra int will not help you with that

The whole tree is literally about getting carried by friends
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>>151551762
only thaum i had was was link1-thaum1 and that was pretty good for farming items
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>>151552721
Might as well reroll now. You wont do any noticeable damage with your shitty cryo skill, full con or not
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>>151552721
it's not meant for solo it's pretty much full support. getting anything other than con won't add anything to the build
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>>151552850
>>151552885
Well, I'll try!
Maybe one day I'll get there...
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>>151552095
here, I made it better

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222888.12233555.1f2e5a6175.1f2a33415a6175
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New player starting out on Klaipeda server here... LF > qt husbando to buy me token

also I'm only rank 2 at the moment but this is my planned build, is this a good build for pve and pvp? I assume i would get mostly int and some con for survivability from what I've read?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41177448.1a2a33415561.25354a5565.192a415575.223141557195
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>>151551210
>Think of it this way:
>oracle/pd cast prophecy
>enemy pd2 use dispel to strip prophecy
>oracle/pd use bloodletting
You're assuming Dispel doesn't have Overheat. We don't know enough to conclude things like this.
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>>151554245
Is it possible that the debuff dispell leaves will prevent the character from buffing again?
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>>151554112
get diev 3
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>>151554375
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, either. These are the things that make conjecture like that meaningless, without knowing how a skill works it's silly to try and build around countering it.
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>>151550713
Anyone? I'm less than a class level to go to r7.
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>>151554112
>qt husbando to buy me token
You can buy it yourself, slut

No, seriously, you can buy it with silver on the AH.
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>>151549603
If you just wanted an Oracle there's quite a few builds

Cleric C2 Priest C3 is the fastest and comfiest, you go Oracle then Kabbalist if you want to finish it. This build is pretty cancerous in PvP

Cleric C2 Bokor C3 Oracle is also good but a bit slower, I'm doing a variation where you go Pardoner C1 and then get Plague Doctor for infinite Incineration and Hexing + Pandemic.

Cleric C2 Diev C3 Oracle Kabbalist is another top PvP build

If you just want to mess around with monsters I'd say go Priest C3 Oracle and go Full SPR with a handful of CON. Max blessing with the new blessing buff and you'll oneshot any creep you'd ever need to farm.
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So the Sage duplicate fireball meme is fun and all but do we have any reason to believe Sage won't be able to duplicate pixel of agony
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>>151555973
no
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>>151555973
We dont know at the moment. About many R8 stuff.
KR Testing soon*tm
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>>151556057
So... why is everyone memeing that sorc2 warlock is a "dead end" path? I see that repeated endlessly.
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>>151556214
Under the same notion of "we dont know anything about R8 classes," speculation is that Warlock2 is very underwhelming.
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>>151555973
Sages have two spells, one duplicates objects (icewall, fireballs), and the other expands ground target spells. Pixel of Agony becomes jpg of death
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>>151556214
people forget c2's exist and increase the power of the previous circles' abilities and sometimes come with new attributes as well

same thing idiots say about cannonneer, musketeer, etc
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>>151556214
Warlock2 seems heavily reliant on Invocation and Sorc's pets don't trigger that.
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>>151556459
>Warlock2 is very underwhelming.
>DT level 10
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>>151556576
>cannoneer
no one shits on cannon2 if only for the siege burst att, muskie is the underappreciated one. Dragoon too because it's not as flashy as the other swordsman
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>>151556928
No one shits on dragoon2, lancer is just more tailored towards PvP. I'd take dragoon2 over it everyday if I wanted a PvE build.
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>>151553593
Alright thanks anon, I'll try this out
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I play this game on my tower which is p nice, and get roughly the same fps as everyone else with the same issues.

If i played this game on my laptop which has a fairly shitty graphics card (intel HD 2000 or some shit, i7 processor though) will it be unplayable or just the same roughly?
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>>151557341
Turn back
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>>151557341
Bad. Doppel1 is not where you end, doppel2 is. Lose Sword2 and take Doppel2 instead and it will be okay. Not optimal, but certainly fine on PVE.
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>>151557341
Its absolute shit, you do not want to take a rank after it has been first offered.
Its also a ded end build as it can't transition to r8 althrough you won't even reach r7 because the build is simply that shit.
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>>151556634
I was also concerned about that at first, then all the 7fold deaths made me realize that Bats consider you as the damage source, not themselves.
Since they're your best Sorc nuke, Invocation should work fine.

t. Sorc3 probably going War1
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>>151557506
>>151557491
Thanks
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>>151557341
>no Pouncing
>no Skull Swing
>no Vertical slash (pls be at least decent after buffs)
>no maxed barb/skyliner shit either
SMITH
M
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>>151557824
So would you say Sword1 High3 Barb 3 instead then?
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>>151557984
>all circle 1-3 classes
Do not, I repeat, do not do this.
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>>151557984
Stop trying to take ranks after they're first released, the power of each rank scales with when they're first offered.
Unless theres some massive amount of utility, you don't want to take anything after its first offered
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>>151557984
Pick either Barb or High and then Dopple level 2.

The way the class system is structured makes it so that generally you want to have some upward progression on the class tree. Going back to earlier circles generally just reduces your power unless there's some ridiculous synergy, which Barb and Highlander don't really have; they overlap a lot in role.
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>>151552919
>>151551762
If I do link1-thaum1 what do I fill the remaining ranks with? Pyro3 so I have some semblance of soloing ability+sage when R8 comes along?
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>>151558231
Huh, so I should go swordsman 2 highlander 3 dopple 2 instead?
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>>151558635
Go with this: Sword>High>Barb3>Doppel2
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Is Jolly Roger 15 farming a meme?
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>>151557984
Fucking no, get doppel at r6 and go doppel3 at r8

What I mean is that you have to chose either of these and work your best on that build. You're options are:

>sword2-barb3-doppel3 for pouncing restrain meme pvp
>high1-barb3-doppel3: standard
>high-barb-high3-doppel3

>highlighted skills of each class

Highlander: Skull Swing, Skyliner, (maybe Vertical Slash, only koreans know)

Barbarian: CLEAVE, Pouncing, warcry

Doppel: Deeds, Cyclone (possibly Zucken, Redel, >punish when we get to r8)

"You gotta minmax, son".
t. Adam Smith
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>>151558231
>Dopple
Triggered.
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>>151558969
>cross guard, cartar stroke (best strike skill you will have) and crown not mentioned
cmon anon, you also forgot to mention godly dpe
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>>151559156
So much misinfo that she couldn't even finish her sentence.
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>>151558969
>>151558768
>>151558231
>>151558229
>>151557538
>>151557824
>>151557491
>>151557506
Alright thanks guys, I'll remember all this and never see you fucks anyway so if I forget you won't even know anyway.

Happy farming.
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>>151559156
>highlight
>mentions almost every skill
I wanted to keep to a minimum, it's also based on personal preference

>Cross guard
Useful in some situations, but not really godlike
>Crown
bretty good
>Cartar Stroke
Also bretty good

>DPE
It's really satisfyting when you get two of that loot you wanted, but by the looks of it, doppel3 won't be able to afford wasting too much points on it, depending on how good Zucken and Redel will be.
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>>151559928
>Cartar Stroke
>Also bretty good
CARTER STROKE MORE LIKE I'M HAVING A STROKE HAHAHAHFGJDKEKDMFTK
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Fedimian and SEA friends, do you have any problems with instance limit full like we do on Klaipedo?
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Downloading this game now, what is the lewdest class?
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>>151560423
Fedimian here, never had problems with that.
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>>151560434
Oracle
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>>151560434
Oracle or monk
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>>151560434
Sorc
Oracle
Monk
Pelt
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>>151560434
Sorcerer and Oracle are both contenders.
Monk too to a lesser extent.
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>>151560423
Dungeons are filled with bots so better spam that Spacebar.
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>>151560434
oracle by far
look into peltassta, dragoon, shinobi, sorcerer and most archer class for more sluts
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>>151560434
Whoracle, Sorcslut, Negromancer. Take your pick. >>151560434
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>>151560434
Koenig
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>>151560670
>>151560679
Monk isn't lewd.
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>>151560572
I just looked up what an oracle is and .... wow, it's the most unique class I've ever seen. A lot of these skills are a bit strange though, what's the point of changing one monster into another one of a similar level? Not only that, it seems to get error bars that increase as the spell levels up so it looks like you might summon a different monster that's +15 levels higher at the end?

Spells that tell you what the monster will drop and being able to change it sounds so fucking useful for farming, holy shit.
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>>151561121
>what's the point of changing one monster into another one of a similar level?
To try and grief AFK players your boyfriend doesn't like.
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>>151561043
>Monk isn't lewd
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>>151557585
Is desmodus any good?
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>>151561043
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>>151561664
>Lolipong's origin story
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>>151561547
It's ok, good for fishing for cloaked people, decent with linker, but deals nowhere near the damage that a C3 skill should.
I got it to lv4 just because there's nowhere else to put points in (Evocation is that bad).
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>>151561785
who is Lolipong anyway? I keep seeing him in chat and think Lolipan is shitposting or something
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>>151561918
No idea, just some guy who showed up a couple days ago and talks about how the holocaust was a hoax in shout chat all the time.
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>>151561664
>like Koenigs or Lalipan, maybe even Dviant

Dviant I get, because it sounds like "deviant". What the heck are the rest though?
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>>151562160
attentionwhores, some of which erp
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>>151562292
lolipong bee leeches levels so hes got nothing better to do
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How many cards does it take to level up a boss card to 10 stars? Is it card star level plus one for each level?
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>>151562867
54
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>>151562936
Thank you
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>>151561664
he should name himself cants then become a fedishitfighter. you run around losing duels all day and then only win arena match when the opponent runs into your meteor opening. you get to brag about getting rank 10 at one point and then quickly dropping to 74.

notice the joke? it's cants. can't win at anything that matter so pvp in tos is your life :^)
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>>151561121
Just so you know it picks the monster completely at random and then adjusts the stats to the level, it doesn't pick a monster specifically from within that level range. That was something I thought too before I rolled mine.

Ex: you can get a level 200 version of a monster from the first area in the game.
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I can't buy from the Marketboard yet because my account is new. Am I not allowed to buy directly from players as well?
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>>151563693
...Oh wow, that's actually pretty funny then. Can I roll around starting areas and summon boss monsters to freak people out? Even if they're just level 1, they must look pretty intimidating.

Oh, does the monster change affects drops too?
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>>151563909
It sometimes affects drops and sometimes doesn't, it's kind of inconsistent. However, the Change: Jackpot attribute of the skill will give you the drops of the mob you are casting Change on rather than the one it turns into.

Change actually follows some rules as to what it can summon; it will only summon monsters which are of "normal" rank, so no boss monsters. However, some monsters which are normal rank are only found in instance dungeons designed for 5 people, and these ones can still spawn and be used to grief.

This is one of the best sources for the game by the way, you can find pretty much anything here. Almost anything on this list is game to spawn from change with a few exceptions.

https://tos.neet.tv/npcs?rank=Normal&f=1
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>>151564558
Thanks for that anon, looks interesting. I'm just reading through the ToS Mechanics pdf right now and.... God, this is about on par with my advocacy handbook for lawschool.
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>>151550713
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I need a new mmo and want to annihilate mobs. I also hate myself and have spare time.

Should I play ToS and what class should I pick?
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>>151564465
i don't mind your pizza edits, just don't stain best girls with this please
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>>151565442
>I also hate myself
You're already more than welcome.
Elememe build is the best if you want to kill mobs and be useless afterwards.
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>>151565442
My suggestion is to play sword1>highlander1>barb3>doppel2 so you'll rape everything early game (pre 50) with cartar stroke, everything mid game (50-170ish) with helmsplit/seism>cleave combo and (sorta) rape everything lategame with whirlmeme not that lategame matters since you'll probably quit before then so at least it'll be fun until you reach lategame
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>>151564816
Why don't you wait to see how r8 turns out to be? If you're impatient, yeah, cannonnegro is always a good choice
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>>151565442
>I also hate myself and have spare time
elememe is perfect for you
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>>151565442
Sword/High3/Hop2/Dragoon
It's for champions.
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So correct me if I'm wrong, but the way it looks like classes work to me...

>You pick one of the four starting classes
>Those starting classes can pick from two advanced classes
>Those advanced classes pick from two more advance(ier) classes
>And so on and so forth
>Occasionally there is a hidden class

What's a hidden class?
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>>151565442
>I hate myself
This game was tailor made for you then, do an elememe if you want damage
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>>151565442
>annihilate mobs
>hate myself
Doppel2 or Dragoon on a STR-focused build.
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>>151565736
Too much. Light uni load and have nothing to do until it begins in a bit less than a month.

Reading in the thread about oracle makes me want to make one as well. It can really summon mobs and grind that way?
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>>151566274
>summon mobs
No, it turns one mob into another.
>grind that way
No. Changing mobs to another mob is used almost only for griefing/fun, or if you have the jackpot attribute trying to make some money (to pay off what you spent increasing that attribute.) There is no leveling advantage to it at all.
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>>151566427
>There is no leveling advantage to it at all.
>level cap is about to raise soon, silver drop rates will be even better
Foresight is an Oracle ability and yet you have none... tsk tsk.
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>>151566197
Classes that you can't choose normally on job advancement and need special quests that are often tedious and insanely annoying (e.g. case in point the shinobi yellow flower).

You also forgot that your class can go up to three circles gaining new skills and abilities.
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>>151566274
Since we're asking about oracles... Since it can change monsters into ones of a SIMILAR level, if it changes a monster into something that's weaker would you get less EXP? Looking at the Mechanics pdf, it seems you get EXP penalties for fighting monsters that are 14 levels higher than you and Change can make monsters up to 15 higher than you.

...Doesn't it seem like it might be easier in the long run to not bother with Change for grinding?
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>>151566701
I don't understand what that circle thing means. I assume it's something like "You can continue to level up your class instead of leaving right away"?

By the way, once you change class do you keep your old class skills or can you only use ones relevant to your current class?
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>>151567029
You keep all old skills which allows lots of class synergies (e.g. hoplite spear lunge to boost pierce damage by 100% into dragoon filled with pierce skills).

Literally read the op and its info m8, it has everything you need to know.

Once you're ready to try making a build use this:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner

This game heavily rewards foresight and planning as one wrong choice fucks you up and forces you to reroll your entire character all over from level 1.

PLAN EVERYTHING BEFOREHAND
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>>151567282
I'm still reading through everything, finished with the FAQ and the mechanics pdf. There's still a bunch of stuff I'm not sure about.

For example, looking at the skill planner... I can choose any 6 classes in my tree? I don't even need to progress forward, I can even go go backwards? Like instead of going wizard > pyromancer > psychokino > elementalist I could go something like wizard> pyromancer > cyromancer > pyschokino > elementalist > linker?
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>>151567749
yes
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>cats the shitposter gets btfo again
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>>151567919
Holy shit, that's amazing. Sounds like you could make some amazing builds like that. And just to confirm, you can choose to stay as one class up to three times to make it and its skills stronger as well as learn new ones?

Oh shit, I'm going to spend more time building a character than I did studying for my property law exam. And that sounds great, building characters is always great fun.
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>>151567749
Um you know there are 3 circles to each class right? Going rainbow builds is okay, but to really get the good skills and be better all around its usually best to take a class to its third circle. This is dependent on your build of course, some builds work well with only 1 or 2 circles invested in certain classes
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>>151568542
Be sure to get some second opinions before fully committing to a build, there's a lot of skills that sound really good in paper but in practice they can be pretty subpar because of some undocumented mechanic, balance between different circles can range from useless to absolutely necessary as well.
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>>151568542
Theres tons of interesting builds but theres also a few meta ones that are a bit above the crop.
An interesting build will still work fine in all content but the meta builds do their functions perfectly

Some examples of meta builds are:
Elememe (wiz3ele3warlock, the current best aoe class)
a2qs3sr2 (class preparing for r8 as well as being the perfect 130 dungeon shekel farmer)
sword1>pelt1>hoplite3>doppel1>dragoon (the standard and best swordsman build currently abusing hoplite spear lunge + dragoon pierce skills with doppel covering slash not to mention swashbuckle taunting)

You can play whatever you want and theres tons of unique builds around but be aware there are some builds better than others
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>>151568839
I didn't really, until I worked it out from the skill planner thing. That's why I'm asking in >>151568542 to see if I'm right, but it seems that's the answer.

I assume it's wrong to think that just because a class is further down the chain, it's better or stronger then?
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Does the swell body nghundi combo still exist or was it patched?
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>>151569362
still working
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>>151569047
Do as the other anon says and get opinions before committing to anything in concrete.
Also generally the higher rank classes are typically stronger than the lower ranked ones, although a good build will utilise all or most of its circles. Typically though, class3 skills out class class1 skills so it's better to take the class you want as a majority of your build to higher ranks
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>>151569717
It gives 57crit rate, I don't see the issue as it seems great?
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>>151569679
I'm looking at skills and such now, but I'm aware that some classes use different weapons and you might lose out if you end up having to swap weapons for a different class. How can you tell what weapons a class uses?
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What should I max first? I'm not jumping into PvP until I get my doppel ranks so I figure Jolly Roger might be the best thing to cap out first.
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>>151569836
I meant the journey to 8*. I've dumped in tons of etcs and the bar barely moved.
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>>151569875
Click the skill, if it says "required stance" then that means it needs a specific weapon for it.

You can also easily tell from the names what each class uses as a weapon (e.g. peltasa obviously is a shield class or hoplite is obviously a spear class)
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>>151569906
of those 3, jolly roger gives the most pve benefit.
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>>151569953
rip in peace, should've just left it at 7 but now its either you go all the way or its a waste
you can get 4 advanced gem abrasives from kadumel per day as well as 1 level 2 gem abrasive from tbl every 4 days not to mention evac district gives 2x level 2 or 3 gem abrasives per day, you'll reach levle 8 gem pretty soon if you keep up with your gem dailies
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>>151570042
I'm looking at the cleric based classes and a lot of them seem to be holding shields and clubs/hammers or nothing. Does that mean they fight barehanded or they can use anything or use a specific fist type weapon or what?
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>>151570252
Clerics can use swords, blunts, and rods. Blunt weapons have physical attack and magic attack. INT clerics benefit the most from rods.
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>>151569045
>currently abusing hoplite spear lunge + dragoon pierce skills
There's a bug?
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Literally impossible to beat a team with 3 sorcerer when you don't have 3 clerics
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>>151570240
evac district gives 2x level 2 or 3 gem abrasives per day

What's this? If you don't mind sharing
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>>151570912

I think he meant great synergy

build not only packs finestra 15 but also deeds and a great burts with dragoon's r7

dragoon itself is weak in comparison to fencer 2, but the hoplite-doppel synergy is what makes it great
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>>151571615
>dragoon itself is weak
wew lad

400% + 5997
vs
600% + 4296 (6 hits)
Not to mention all elemental damage, concentrate, blessings and shit will apply to each hit individually.

But sure, I guess it doesn't even compare. Snipe's range must make up for the fact it's not a huge AoE attack.

>the hoplite-doppel synergy is what makes it great
wew lad x2

Serpentine:
700% + 6482 (7 hits)
Dragon Soar:
500% + 4170 (5 hits)
Both AoE, of course.

The only thing Musketeer has that clearly outmatches Dragoon is Covering Fire which is godly (and aesthetically magnificent). Headshot is a slightly better single target version of Gae Bulg.

Let's not even get started on Doppelgoon which is what I played on kTOS.
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Is Archer3 > Scout1 > Rogue2 a meme?
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>>151570958
I think pendulum but if its something I don't know
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>>151572074
No, just shit.
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>>151572074
Depends on what you pick for R7
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Please help.
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>>151572074
Why would anyone take more than one in rogue?
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Alright, how is Cleric2 Priest2 Bokor1 Oracle2? It's pretty support based, I feel.
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>>151572797
Backstab is 2.
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>>151572797
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>>151572747
kabba or PD
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>>151572747
What do you need help with?

Seems fine so far
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>>151572747
Kabbalist.
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>>151572747
Would recommend getting divine might to 5. Assuming you're doing Deprot Zone because you will be high spirit?

Priest seems fine. I question 10 revive but i havent actually played priest so I'll leave that to pros, and if youre not getting asp, not many other choices.

For Oracle, Arcane energy seems unwelcome for many, as it consumes a buff slot for almost no value. Unless you're rolling with Daino scrolls, or not going oracle 2, ditch it.
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>>151573783
No idea, honestly, I'm feeling like Kabba since Ein Sof and RSF are amazing. PD C2 is really hard to miss, though...

>>151573862
Skill distribution, someone was spamming that Aspersio LV15 was required because of DEF, but I'm wondering if it is really worth it.

>>151573936
Revive 10 is pretty overkill, I could sacrifice some points for something else, the problem is if anything else is worth it.

Good point on Arcane Energy.
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What's the point of putting multiple points into tincture for alchemists? Does it make the resulting potion better?
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>>151574229
You going full support? Are you planning on pvp or pve?

Revive 10 is fantastic for both, its basically a half heal after your party "dies" and its never a bad thing to have. If you're aiming for pve, you can just buy the aspersions from pardoners and get the same thing but for longer and its one less buff you have to juggle.

For pvp, its not even worth it in minigame half the time anyway.

Otherwise, id drop a point out of safety zone for one more in divine might and remove that deprotect zone unless its too late or you are planning on going PD and put that point into divine might too. Otherwise, the point spread is not bad.

Personally, im not a big fan of only 1 in sacrement but thats entirely opinion based.
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>>151574518
Every point is a level of potion.

Search on the market for condensed SP or HP potions. The difference in point levels is the difference at the start of the potions name and how much it recovers.
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>>151574229
aspersion IS worth it, but leave that to the pardoners. That way people who want it have it, and dont need to fear a low duration buff overriding it.

>>151574518
Thats what determines the level of the potion. Lvl 5, Lvl 10 is all you see on the market because of it.
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>>151574973
Should've ran away instead of casting a skill
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>>151574973
He takes so much damage. Lolipan needs way more CON than he has.
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>she plays wizard at tbl but has 0 points into reflect shield
>no ignition
>less than 15k hp
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>>151575257
That's magic damage, anon.
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>>151575446
>reflect shield

Play the game.
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Alright, how are these?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41122488.1a244a5561.152535456595.15253144.2a37415761718192

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111aa55.153f5f7585.1828385165.25354a5a

I might drop 5 points off briquetting and shove'em into dig though...
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If anyone even bothers killing that
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>>151575639
Why oracle 2

Why priest2?
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>>151571903
God fucking damnit.
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>>151575639
Why briquetting at all?

Its bad.

You need two of the same item, you throw em at eachother for rng chance at plus OR minus stats and it removes one potential.

Its literally the worst thing ever.

Also, you will want at least 2 in awakening.
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>>151575698
Why not?

Priest two because I wanted Mass Heal and Revive. Oracle 2 for Death Sentence. It sounds super useful in an emergency situation or against bosses.
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>>151575461
Magic Damage also subtracts HP from the HP gauge which is modified by CON, anon. His bar shouldn't plummet that fast from PP, he needs way more CON.
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Is Rexiper card do moar good than TS for sorc?
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>>151574973
>50% chance to stun
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>>151575858
Alright then, I can take all the points out of briquetting and shove it into full Dig and Item Awakening. I took it because I thought it sounded fun, but I wasn't aware you needed two of the same item to do it.
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>>151575565

reflect shield saves from pouncing
reflect shield procs burning from ignition

great on 2x2 but kinda sux on 5x5 depending on your party composition
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>>151575869
Death sentence is only useful for cheesing teams without clerics in 2v2 pvp and killing Dungeon monsters that spawn from change, it doesn't work on bosses and it's a level 1 debuff blocked both by plague doctors and other oracles.

Oracle 2 is mostly just a stepping stone for if you want oracle 3 when its released.
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>>151575870
Still doesn't matter, when you're caught point-blank range in Kino2's PP without protection, you won't get away.
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>>151575869
Death sentence doesnt affect bosses and takes 40 seconds at max rank to kill something and is on a 10 minute cooldown. Its garbo for what it is.

Mass heal and revive are fine. You may as well go eitehr pd or kab for their kit or go oracle two just for the genderchange shop which wont really make you any money.
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>>151575858

lol

get two s.220 bow

get a good roll

awakening

then proceed to channel crash it to +12 + rng manipulation
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>>151576078
Ah, doesn't work on bosses huh? Maybe I'll toss it then.

>>151576172
Gender change shop? What?
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>>151576649
D-DELETE THAT RIGHT NOW
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151576649
uhmm, wow
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>>151576649
Welcome to the lewd fanart club, Mia.
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>>151577181
I'm in there for a long time..
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>>151576649
That looks like a diaper picture or something.
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>>151577102
you looked better with the other hairstyle.
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>>151576597
Next week the level cap on Ktos is being increased to 330 and character ranks will be able to go up to 8 instead of 7. They've revealed all the rank 8 information over the past month, and Oracle's circle 3 skills include a shop where you can sell the service of changing players' genders.

The other circle 3 skills are an ability that deals 40% of a monster's hp as damage and then heals them for 80% of their max hp over 30 seconds and a move which creates a moving magic circle that randomly provides invincibility to players standing in it.
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>>151571903
This fucking nigger pasta again. Don't fall for this bullshit, dragoon while decent doesn't put out anywhere near that amount of damage
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>>151577940
>deals 40% of a monster's hp as damage and then heals them for 80% of their max hp
>have an oracle3
>troll the shit out of people trying to do Rexipher
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>>151578343
Oracle is literally the griefing class now, it makes no fucking sense why they keep adding this stuff.
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>>151577940
Wait wait, it does 40% damage of a monster's HP... and then heals 80% back to the monster? I mean, it's a damn good finishing move but god have mercy if you misjudge it and accidentally restart the fight.
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>>151578343
>multiple oracle 3s
>rexhiper now takes over 20+ hours and only dies when the oracles falls asleep
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>>151577181
Post it again, I missed it
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>>151578410
For people who want to have fun, naturally.
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>>151578506
>not rotating with your oracle buddies because fuck faggots
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Wait until you see under a Fencer's dress.
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>>151578532
Or at least post sauce so it doesn't get deleted.
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>>151578343
>>151578410
>>151578456
>>151578506
Not to mention it's legal, since it's how the skill works. So IMC made griefing legal now with oracle 3.
>inb4 you can't use it on bosses
And then no one would take it.
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>>151578693
If you can't use it against bosses its still pretty good finisher in pvp against players.
Instant 40% chunked which if you time right is massive damage against all the con stacking fags
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Hello anons, I want into WBs and I have a few questions

aside from Cerb, which ones are the most sought after?

and is Cerb hunted 4 hours on the dot each time it spawns? ex. maintenance ended at 5, cerb is killed 4 hours later, meaning 9-1-5-9?
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MIKO HIDDEN PATH WHERE
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>>151578939
Demon lords, crab, dulla and marionette
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>>151578693
I think in the preview they specifically stated it was intended to help nuke down bosses, and that you don't get the dps credit towards boxes.
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>>151579172
So it' a good emergency spell then, like what I was expecting death sentence to be.
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>Fencer thighs are larger than thighlander
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>>151578939
Demon lords and crab are the only ones worth hunting besides cerb.
It spawns 2 hours after the message comes up.

If you're solo magic then stick to dulla
If you're solo physical then you're fucked outside demon lords and even then you may be fucked

If you're team then its all about getting to world bosses first
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Which skills do you max on a QS3Reiter besides Running Shot? Caltrops+Pavise?
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>>151579172
>intended to help nuke down bosses
Griefing confirmed!
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>>151576649
wtf i hate mia now
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>>151579323
For proof.
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>go to sleep
Make me
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Send help
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>>151580496
WA-SHISHH!
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>>151580683
Oh shit.

Time to make an alchemist.
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>Barely graze the air near the arrow on one map
>Warped to the next map
>Walk entirely into the end zone on other map
>Can't get to next zone unless I hop on the center of the arrow

IMC quality. Why couldn't they just use clickable warp points like every other mmo? not basing around mouse controls was a mistake.
>>
>>151580683
>lv9
how about no
>>
>>151580683
That's Klai right? I should put some potions up.
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>>151580683
If this is Klai im saving this and reposting it every time someone says orsha is ded
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>>151580946
>>151580683
Now that I think about it, there were several hundred potions just like a half hour ago. Someone must have purposely bought them.
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>>151581041
Mafia at it again.
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How bad of an idea is a3woogoo2fwee3

Thinking that or a3sap2fwee3
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>>151578682
>>151578532
http://i.imgur.com/YF4ExjI.png
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>>151581551
horrible. Wugu is shit and should be avoided at all costs.
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>>151581621
Anon pleaseee
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>>151581551
Wugu probably better idea.
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>>151581621
The day after koenig leaves. I doubt that was a coincidence.
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>>151581551
>fwee3
Pretty bad. You also picked the two other unsalvagable classes in the archer tree, wugu and sapper, so you're either Lolipan or just memeing REALLY hard.
>>
>>151581621
Looks like Capyba
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>>151581551
>wugu2
Doesn't fit well. Fwee and wugu don't synergize, you should pick something else to fill those ranks
>>
>>151581812
Can't unsee it now, that's him.
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>>151581809
Shit post. I must fwee.

>>151581715
I am aware of the stackfail bug, and i dont plan on pvping with it so the antidote hardcountering is irrelevant as well. I was under the impressiom that wugu adds a shit ton of dps; is that wrong?
>>151581761
I suppose sapper really only gets me broom trap and some niche pvp sillyness. Maybe ranger2? Or something and fletcher 1? Maybe scout for maximum pvp cheese.
>>
Whenever I start my client, it just flashes to white then closes itself. How do I fix this?
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>>151582129
>i dont plan on pvping with it
>Maybe scout for maximum pvp cheese
Anon do you have any fucking idea what you're doing? Are you okay?
>>
>>151581994
To be fair fwee doesnt really synergize with much outside of a3. My idea was that wugu poison ticks are an island in themselves to give me room to micromanage fwee between reapplications and not ve completely shut down during 15NS chargeups, but i really dont know much about woogoo.
>>
>>151582129
The problem with wugu is that as more and more ranks come it will just be more irrelevant.

Poisons can't crit, they're long CD, and they scale off STR. Future archer classes will probably need crit, and their damage will outclass wugu by a large margin. Fletcher 3 already does this over sustained DPS and the burst of the r7 classes already do this. Wugu is the opposite of future proof, it's unsalvageable and you get fucked over hard by picking it.
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>>151582280
If im not going to find a good pure pve setup for fwee 3 i might as well consider fun pvp options.
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>>151581621
>>151581812
DELETE
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>>151582343
Good point. Especially with a3, theres no sense in taking circles that ignore crit. Back to the drawing board.
>>
>>151582525
Goodbye everyone, it's been fun.
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>>151582525
SEA only?
>>
Stupid question: Can you use High Guard and Finestra at the same time?
>>
>>151582525
top kek, seamonkey servers are so full everythings closed whilst klaipedia and orsha are filled with white dots
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>>151582329
That sounds like gimmicky trash. Go A3 R1 Scout.

>>151582438
Understand your niche as a fwee, because you are extremely niche. In PVE it's Circling. That's the whole thing.

In PVP it's chain knockdowns. So capitalize on this. A2 Hunter2 Scout Fwee2 gives you more CC as well as invisible hunter/fwee gimmicks (you can use pet attacks and not decloak.) I would say try and find a way to abuse your lockdown with some damage but the only option I can find playing in the calculator for this is fletcher fwee2 which gives broadhead and will lose to anyone with status immunity.

Fwee2 is really hard to fix.

You could take a level of QS for stun shot (this is WAY more effective than it should be) and pavise (so is this) but you'd suffer massively in PVE as a result. Fwee2 might as well go a support build if you're going to TBL and just desync people with full draw and knock them down with your birb.
>>
are klapedo dungeons still kill?
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>>151582801
Well multi3 just outright kills people for starters if it lands cleanly. Fuck leveling a hunterfwee, at least until i secure a piggy. Stone shot is buggy as hell, though i could just a2 qs3 and use my old 14 GS.

What about a2 ranger3 for pve?
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>>151583215
yes please send help
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>>151582801
>you can use pet attacks and not decloak
Only works with rushdog, probably because it's based off pet stats.
All other attack skills will uncloak you the second you do damage.
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>>151583362
Cool. Didn't know that, only saw the webm of the guy doing it. Guess that's out then. Fwee2 for PVP really is unfixable.
>>
Help me anons what is Fwee?
>>
>>151583945
The sound the falcon makes
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>Pandemic
This skill is a fucking mystery to me, and I'm having a hard time finding PDs who have put a point into it.

>Spread all status ailments on targeted enemies to other enemies within the range.
What are the details on this? Does it refresh the duration? Number of hits remaining on sleep? For DoTs like poison, does it recalculate using my stats like Capture or does it keep the original?
>>
>>151583470
You still get the first hit advantage of cloak + hunter and that actually means alot since hunter skills hit the closest target to your character.
Trying to hit hunter skills while uncloaked in pvp can be pretty hard, especially if there are sorc bats or necro summons, you will pretty much not be able to use a hunter skill on a player unless you're right next to him. That's where scout benefits.
I dunno about cloak and fwee though but it will probably work the same, as soon as the damage number ticks you will probably uncloak.
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>>151584069
Pandemic spreads (unformatted)
>Resist elements, fire ball attribute, vashita, sonic strike, bleeding, world tree, smoke bomb, needle poison, gu pot, poison confusion, hexing, kurdaitcha, bone shot, targe smash, dark theurge debuff, freeze, dog growling, dirty pole, flesh cannon attribute, stone curse, merkabah attribute, sleep, crown, conviction.

It basically makes an exact copy of the original status, you cant pandemic sleep, it probably keeps the same damage
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>>151584294
>world tree
Neat.
>sleep
I take it these are statuses specifically, not spells, then.

... It doesn't spread Incinerate?
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>>151584294
>>151584069
>you cant pandemic sleep
no wait you can pandemic sleep, damn you unformatted mess.
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>>151584373
it doesnt spread incinerate which was the deal breaker for most PD which is why they skip it.

Pandemic is amazing for Bokors because it spreads Hexing which is needed to use Effigy.

The best way to use Incinerate is to just get everything clumped together and then torch them.
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>>151581812
Thats not Capyba but she looks very similar
Maybe Capyba is Mia's sister
need more lewd of Mia and Capyba
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>>151584447
Wow, that kinda sucks. Makes a lot of sense as to why it's skipped, though.

Targe Smash is neat but I doubt I'll ever see use of it unless I get teamed with Lolipan. Not spreading Incinerate really seems like a bug, at first glance it seems like those skills were made to be used together.
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>>151584589
who knows, maybe IMC will see the light one day

On the plus side, Discerning Evil works with Incinerate so you can have a 20 second incinerate with zero debuffs
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>>151583945
Cute grills with cute pets
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>>151584294
>>151584373
>>151584378
http://pastebin.com/wLVjKNP4
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>>151584294
>bleeding

Where are the pd monks?
>>
>>151584815
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGoqdUtyM3M

They're all there.
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>>151584942
>MonkSadhu

Stand User
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666ee.23334554.15243541.5a718594aabf.152a3a436171

is this cute?
>>
New thread pls
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>>151586023
make it yourself silly
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>>151586070
I'm tired, honey.
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>>151586335
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