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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, August 10th:
955 – Battle of Lechfeld: Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor defeats the Magyars, ending 50 years of Magyar invasion of the West.
991 – Battle of Maldon: The English, led by Byrhtnoth, Ealdorman of Essex, are defeated by a band of inland-raiding Vikings near Maldon, Essex.
1944 – World War II: The Battle of Narva ends with a combined German–Estonian force successfully defending Narva, Estonia, from invading Soviet troops.


>News
EU4 DD04/08
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-4th-of-august-2016.961146/

CK2 DD 18: Optimization and Modding
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-18-optimization-and-modding.962057/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!LJpT1bBB!F8HKTwiZSCdMPzArQRNmqXI-N9Q86zQnIpdpCizc9Xg

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.5 - 29/07/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

Old Thread >>151268153
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>151314524
7 seconds
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No seriously we need to report this raid
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>tfw memebloc is back
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>tfw unironically a slav pagan irl
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>>151314529
Atleast you leave your house, i've been inside for weeks.
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>>151314868
I've been inside for years.
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>>151314524
lmao fat white nerd

>>151314714
>>151314721
>>151314749
whatchu gonna do about it white nerds?

>>151314812
>>151314868
speak english NERDS
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Wrong link for the CK2 music mod.

updated link (from last thread): https://mega.nz/#!PQgxyACD!bpcXXoWI3Pfu_PJ1_sz5D7wKYO2OStEWr_npgpw0B_w
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>tfw deutsch
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>>151314960
deadass my nigger

>>151314961
lmao what a nerd
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Does it often happen that Poland gets elected as fucking Emperor of the HRE?
This is ridicolous.
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>literally falling for the pagan Jew
Go look at Christianity then go look at Kikism and tell me who will fight the Jew.

The answer to the Jew is strict traditional Christianity not useless paganism.
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>>151314729
I literally just updated to the july 17th release today.
Here's some not being used.
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>>151314868
me on the far right
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>>151315142
At least they are catholic.
The HRE should have a "german-only" requirement for the emperor.
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>>151315142
Please leave nerd

>>151315138
deadass my nigger

>>151315239
>>151315271
>>151315275
speak english nerds
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redpill me on liquor
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Does gsg have a flag?
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>>151315275
Poland is ofcourse in an union with Lithuania and me and Spain get drowned in Poles to kill, they dont stop coming, they just dont.
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>>151315271
some others
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>>151315335
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>>151315335
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>>151315335
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>>151315398
Why the fuck doesn't the HRE has some heavy german-only bias anyway?

I don't remember Poland being this strong in EU3.
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>>151315305
t. reed
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Paganism does not believe in truth, only in personal interest, therefore is FALSE.
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>>151315142
it's actually happened in a lot of my games. usually when austria gets in a PU. it almost always leads to psycho-nightmare shit like pic related
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okay I can't get MEIOU to download

so vanilla EU3 or D&T?
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The ____ are my greatest allies in Vicky
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>>151315271
I know for a fact that the Maronite, Apostolic, Nestorian, and Coptic ones are used. You have to give the game time for the heresies to appear.
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>>151315690
Germans
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>>151315690
Liquor factories
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>>151314812
I know you're shitposting but paganism isn't the cuck kike produced religion, Christianity is. Christianity is literally super tolerance, multiculturism, everyone is equal, Christian guilt (from where white guilt comes from) sort of religion.

Paganism is fuck off, I'm self sufficient and proud sort of religion.
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>>151315534
Jesus
Who thought this was a good idea?

>>151315585
Did you try getting MEIOU from the archive?
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>>151315534
Thats some World War material, holy fuck.
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>>151314960
>>151315138
>>151315304
>>151315701
fuck off back to 2013
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MEMEBLOC is not back. These are Radical Yugoslavia teenagers stealing MEMEBLOC memes and false flagging as the Official Steam Group members.
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>>151314868
>a girl on /gsg/

That's obviously paracuck's diversity quota.
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>>151315993
>le steam group falseflag bullshit meme

fucc off lad
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Alllllllllright nerds, no shitposting beyond this point. You have been warned.

t. Me
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>>151315879
>>151315846
this is also later in the game when pooland was still emperor and the wars of religion happened. needless to say they got ravaged
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>>151315846
yeah I tried but it wouldn't work. the hotfix worked fine but not the mod.

the interface looks ugly as balls though from screens I googled so I'm not sure I want it anyway. Someone said D&T was garbage but didn't say why
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>>151315275
>The HRE should have a "german-only" requirement for the emperor.
There was a Czech emperor in the 18th century and it wasn't guaranteed that Germans would retain control over the empire in the 14th and 15th century, it could have happened that it was a Czech or Polish or French or Italian dynasty that took hold of the empire.
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>>151315993
>memebloc raid going on
>bob just happens to show up
yeah right fuck off back to your steamgroup
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>Steamgruppes at war
Epic, i hope they kill eachother.
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>>151315142
Why does everything look so much cooler in German? I'm thinking of downloading German version of Eu4 even though I'm not fluent (though I can get by reasonably well).
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>>151315828
every atheist/equalityfag i've ever know has been a pagan apologist because of "muh christian imperialism"
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Just tried HOIV. Holy shit is that bad.

One of the provinces on the frontline coudn't handle more than 24 units. I control the area with a 24 units army, pushing the ennemy and...suddenly my ally decides to "help" by sending 40 divisions in. The attrition hit hard, we run out of organization and get destroyed.

Just why?

On a related note, while I was invading the US with Italy Germany decided, instead of trying to defend its lands from the Allies, to declare on the USSR. One month later, the Russians were at the gates of Berlin while several german armies were wandering in China.

I could also mention the troops who, instead of walking to the next province, decide to take a boat, regardless of the fact that the ennemy has a naval supremacy on the area.

Fuck you, Johan.
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My liege, my work in /vg/ /gsg/ seems to have come to fruition. By bribing, cajoling, extorting, threatening and forging documents, I have managed to fabricate a claim on the general presently held by Moderators of 4chan. I leave it up to you whether to use it or not.

Your humble Chancellor, /gsg/ Steam group
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>>151316346
>being this ignorant of steemgrup politics
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>>151316480
Those are faggots but the difference is in Christianity apologism is built in from the start and you're supposed to feel sorry for million sins you've committed including existing while in paganism, real paganism not >muh trees hippy paganism you're not supposed to feel sorry for anything.
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>>151316527
please delete this general so i can finally leave
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>>151316148
D&T makes the game too easy
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>>151316638
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>>151316480
People also think that the crusades were awful and despicable things and that we should apologize for them.
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>>151316482
The AI is fucking shit, that's why
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>>151316638
>leaving
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daily reminder that if you lads play SP, chances are you're a bunch of hecking lowlives ....
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>>151316865
People always conveniently forget Crusades came after three centuries of Muslims rampaging and genociding where they forcefully converted half the Roman world to Islam (including Syria and Palestine, both of which were massively and very importantly Christian and sources of ton of early saints). Really crusades were just looooong overdue revenge.

But then I've also run into fucks (online only, though) that genuinely thought Iberia was rightfully Muslim because they held it for so long and that it was wrong for the Spanish to btfo muzzies in 1492.
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>>151317019
ill play mp when it doesn't crash every 10 minutes

I honestly never know if theres a raid or if this is just false flagging
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>>151317019
I don't have any friends though.
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>>151316701
oh okay. might just stick with vanilla then, though
I find provinces oddly shaped compared to mods
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>>151316883

That's just the first name. Every paradox game has a shitty release but tend to be at least playable/enjoyable.

This is a whole new level.
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>>151317019
>plays gsgs
>calls other people lowlifes

Is this the supreme ironing?
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>>151317281
Use DAO
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I seriously hope you lads dont play Prussia.....
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>>151317365
pretty sure kojak is the definition of an alpha male who beds like, 5 women every day.
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>>151317202
No that is exactly what I mean but I think you're making a mistake. They do not "conveniently forget" but simply do not know what happened. It's because history isn't properly teached anymore, if people would fucking understand what happened in the past, they wouldn't open their doors to invaders.
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>>151317542
heh, kid.... it is what it is ;-)
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>>151317542
t. kojak
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl0b2LGf9jM
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>>151316075
Who's "they"
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>>151317291
The only glaring flaw is the AI, the rest is passable. Since the AI is shit and stupid, the game is stupidly easy and people lose interest fast.
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>>151317737
These are shit borders, at least changeowner to something more visually appealing.
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Stop making the thread early, alex
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>>151315335
No, but we do have a coat of arms.
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>>151317839
>The only glaring flaw is the AI

No that fucking supply system is fucking retarded as well.
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>>151317876
I will take Burma and all British land in Asia.
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>>151317932
is that the /vg/league thing?
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>>151317546
True dat. Arrogance is probably even worse than ignorance and arrogance about history combined with ignorance of it can only lead to trouble.

People have almost no clue about even the most most popular parts of history like Hitler and world war two. They know the Hollywood version - Hitler was angry German, he yelled a lot, started a war, there was Holocaust, Americans came through Normandy and then Americans won the war but almost nothing beyond that. I could make a speech that's 90% identical to some Hitler's speech with few changes and updates and, in certain contexts, people could even applaud it in total ignorance.

And don't get me started on the degradation of labels by the left. Everything is racist, sexist, nazi and any politician that isn't immigrant hugging liberal hippie literally Hitler and his party bunch of fascists/nazis.
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>>151317737
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>>151318113
yeah
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this general is probably in the top fifty percent of generals

sadly
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>>151317431
that looks better, thanks friend
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Emily here. kojak is an alpha male with a HUGE dick that i love to play with turkslayer is a beta fuckboi with a really REALLY small dick

t. girl who dated both kojak and turkslayer
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>>151318290
>this general is probably in the top fifty percent of generals

Pfft, please. We're definitely in the top ninety percent of generals.
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>>151316480
sorry bout your shit luck

Semitic religions are shit, be they Jew, Christian or Muslim.
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>>151318041
Release Bengal and Assam, changeowner provinces for proper Bengal-India border.
Release Sikh and changeowner to natural borders.
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>amerilards get back from school
>general turns to shit
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>>151318525
Been like this for the past couple of weeks.
Seems like there's less moderation or less strict moderation during this time too, which only increases the problem.
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Me and my buddies playing gsg in real life.
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>>151317202
>People always conveniently forget Crusades came after three centuries of Muslims rampaging and genociding where they forcefully converted half the Roman world to Islam
It was wrong when goatfucking Muslims did it and it's wrong when drunken Norman mercs did it, pretty simple really
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>>151318525
>August
>school
Europoors are THIS dilusional
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>>151318459
adherents of abrahamic religions are literally the only relevant people in the world

Sorry your special snowflake bullshit died out a long time ago:^)
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>>151318514
>letting Bengal and Assam
>letting Sikhs go

Rightful Indian clay anon.

>>151318810
>Crusades happen because religion
Crusades were Pope approved land grabs for unlanded European aristocracy anon.
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>>151318940
>adherents of abrahamic religions are literally the only relevant people in the world
White people and mudslimes are in the world and it would be that way for the former whether they were Christian or not.

Also you forgot the chinks.
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>>151318940
Abrahamic religions historically won because they're centralized so they allow for and facilitate greater state control over things that's backed by "divine right". You can't have something like that in a pagan faith that's by definition maximally decentralized and where no on can really claim authority.

So pagan adherents remained tribals that would every once blue moon gather together and attack someone but otherwise stuck to their own business while Abrahamic faiths allowed for centralized state. Also note that religion and civilization and technological and scientific level in the middle ages were one and the same so accepting Christianity had the advantage of bringing up at least the upper classes significantly compared to pagan times.
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>>151319189
Sikhs are bro-tier
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>>151317839

and some frontlines problems, yeah.

I saw a lot of pic of huge armies surrounded by the player. Any tip on how to manage to encircle a huge army?
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>>151319189
>Crusades were Pope approved land grabs for unlanded European aristocracy anon.
That's why you don't give any power to the church
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>>151318810
In neither case was it "wrong" because you don't apply current morals on societies who existed thousand of years ago.

>bhuhuhu people back in the day were evil:(((

just fuck off you retard
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>>151319189
Those are shit borders, puppet Assam and Bengal with better borders look GOAT.
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>>151318810
>killing occupying muzzies and liberating the holy land is wrong

You sound like a heretic, lad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
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>>151319278
Siks are just as crazy as other subcontinent nationalities mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvertGZkwF4

>>151319389
>No Crusades happen
>Europe experiences shitton of succession disputes and wars over 200 years
>Byzantium gets no breather
On the other hand maybe Byzantines would survive longer with no 4th Crusade and all.
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>>151319189
"India" is a lie made up by perfidious albion
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>>151319273
>Abrahamic religions historically won because they're centralized so they allow for and facilitate greater state control over things that's backed by "divine right".

I too am glad Jesus invented the concept of Empire

>
So pagan adherents remained tribals that would every once blue moon gather together and attack someone but otherwise stuck to their own business while Abrahamic faiths allowed for centralized state. Also note that religion and civilization and technological and scientific level in the middle ages were one and the same so accepting Christianity had the advantage of bringing up at least the upper classes significantly compared to pagan times.
EU3 is no replacement for an actual education Anon

>>151319393
>All morality is relative therefore it is objectively morally wrong to call something objectively wrong
t. phil 101
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>>151319650
Pokemon GO
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>>151319650
>in what game
>in what game

Little game called HISTORY
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>>151319650
CK2
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>>151319243
>chinks
>not almost entirely atheist thanks to comrade mao

lmao


>tfw more than 50 % of the world is abrahamic

damn son
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>>151319650
>waahh stop talking about history and religion and start shitposting about grandiquor again
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>>151319513
>liberating
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>>151319865
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>>151319865
>implying byzamemes didn't deserve it for being orthodox faggots and roman LARPers
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>>151319513
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>>151319769
>>tfw more than 50 % of the world is abrahamic
if you remove India and China, both of which are heavily insular and fairly unique, 99% of the world is Abrahamic.
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>>151319949
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*a single tear rolls down my cheek*
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>>151317737
Please take Nepal and Bhutan. And maybe Tibet. But the first two for sure.

Also, Goa, Ponticherry, and Sri Lanka. The Maldives are optional.
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>>151319865
Heretic feelings don't count. Come back to the real church and then you can talk.
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>>151320004
>chop off an arbitrary massive chunk of the largest continent
>call it heavily insular because it has less overseas interests than tiny crowded European nation states
>be a British scholar from the 19th century
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>>151319949
>>151319978
>>151320138
t. venetians
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>>151320034
>he has more crusading stuff
Driving hard bargain there lad
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>>151319596
there's no such thing as "objectively wrong".

One hundred years later people will probably be talking about us as the horrible people who kept "animal slaves".
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>>151320278
>there's no such thing as "objectively wrong".
wow deep I never thought if it that way before

post again when the point gets somewhere near your head

>One hundred years later people will probably be talking about us as the horrible people who kept "animal slaves".
kek
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>>151320278
>One hundred years later people will probably be talking about us as the horrible people who kept "animal slaves".
Only if the left wins, anon. Only if the left wins.
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>>151320189
fuck off you avatarfagging chink
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>>151320189
>>call it heavily insular because it has less overseas interests than tiny crowded European nation states
But it was. Chinese and Indians spent 3000 years literally only dealing with Chinese and Indian politics and issues, respectively. They never ventured outside or really did anything beyond their sphere of influence. That means the developments in China and India didn't have anything to do with developments in the greater world until west turned up on their doorsteps and said "knock knock bitches".
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>>151320502
>GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT LIQUOR AND TALEX REEEEEEEE
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>>151320502
>>151319650
based "in what game" poster
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>>151320565
>Chinese and Indians spent 3000 years literally only dealing with Chinese and Indian politics and issues, respectively.
Read a book
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>>151319052
Kek
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>>151320040
is that pic from The Great War series?
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>>151320648
t. wikipedia intellectual
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>>151320697
no u
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redpill me on liquor
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>>151320004
In the end China will end up on top because crazy gooks are massive collectivists even with no religion in it.

Speaking of totally semi historical offtopic stuff i just watched this.
It was well....it was pretty i guess? You guys seen it before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljd2MLlkg6g
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>>151320565
>Chinese
>never ventured outside or really did anything beyond their sphere of influence.
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>>151320883
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>>151320939
me on the back
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Is there a way to change the 3k regiment size into 1k in Vicky?
I thought I'd get used to it, but it's extremely annoying to handle big armies this way.
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>>151320565
You can fit all of Europe inside the India subcontinent and that still doesn't account for their colonization and trade in Indonesia and along the African coast. Plus they have more than one language family without having to resort to inbred basques to fill it out and comprise a lot of totally divergent cultures, geographical regions, religions, etc etc.

So basically this isn't true except for some really retarded wiki tier idea of "Indian issues".

Not even gonna touch China, that'd take fucking pages to explain how wrong you are
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>>151321139
t. EU4 pro
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>>151319189
>Crusades were Pope approved land grabs for unlanded European aristocracy anon.
>gee i have no land and as a result not much money due to no harvestable land
>i know ill use all this money i dont have to claim land that isn't fertile next to people who will almost certainly either retake the land or destroy any attempt to make the land profitable
Your theory doesn't add up.
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>>151320502
>>151320939

how is he not right? the chinese were completely isolationist, after zheng he's voyages they literally didn't give a fuck what the "barbarians" were doing
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>>151320883
based "redpill me on x" poster
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>>151321176
Are you telling me, it's easier to deal with 3k sized regiments rather then 1k?
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redpill me on @151321306
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>>151320939
>implying that Chinese foreign policy for the last 1000 years can't be summed up as being invaded and having civil wars
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>>151321306
based "based x poster" poster
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redpill me on redpilling
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>>151320939
Who's the ejaculatory fluid druid?
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>>151321528
This guy >>151321110
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>no game discussion for the last 100 posts
ebic
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>>151321241
>money can only come from holding land workedb y farmers
t. 11th century french nob
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>>151321241
>Europe
>most of land divided
>new young aristocrats have no land
>better to start a Crusade than start bickering over family disputes
>Pope likes it and approves
>landed Aristocracy approves because less succession issues
>Kings approve because they can add new provinces to its sphere
>poor people approve because religious and illiterate

Or by your logic - civil war is cheaper obviously. Nobody will give land in Europe for free.
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>>151321159
Except I never claimed India or China aren't complex or diverse. They're both effectively as diverse as Europe in terms of languages and ethnicities and different faiths within their region.

The problem is they had fuck all to do with the world outside of Indian subcontinent/civilization circle and Chinese region (and I'm aware of differences between eastern and western and northern and southern China). But, again, when did the Chinese actually influence the wider world? When they conquered by Mongols? When Europeans came to them? When they colonized Vietnam? None of those are really going out and seeing what's there to conquer the way Europeans and Arabs did. That's why Abrahamic religions, spread by Europeans and Arabs, are all across the world and Hindiusm and Confucianism aren't.
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>>151321528
le post rock sister
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>>151320895
>In the end China will end up on top because crazy gooks are massive collectivists


This honestly scares me. Is western hegemony going to be threatened by the chinese giant in the near future?
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>>151321796
t. cuck
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redpill me on why white bois can't even compete
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>>151321717
If only there was some sort of system in which younger members of an aristocratic family could inherit land from older aristocratic family members who had no use for the land anymore, some sort of system of inheriting land from older members and passing it to younger members.
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>>151321796
Actually read my post, then read a book. Read two.
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>>151321852
Chinese are actually descendants of ancient nordic aryans
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>>151321852
Near future? Nah. Chinese are smart enough to stay low key.
100 years? Sure.
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>>151321852
>near future
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>>151321716
t. ye olde mayore
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>>151321796
This just in: East Africa, Indonesia, China, and the Iranian plateau actually part of the Indian Subcontinent, says hacktivist group "Anonymous"
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>>151320895
This looks good, I'll give it a watch.
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>>151321942
>if only inheritance laws were fluid and not conservative
>if only each aristocrats didnt have 10 kids because Middle Ages
Dont be dumb son.
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>>151322262
t. rob
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>>151321852
>This honestly scares me. Is western hegemony going to be threatened by the chinese giant in the near future?
Not really. Nukes have made ww1/ww2 style wars between great powers/super powers impossible since neither sides wants total destruction. And China is completely surrounded by hostile neighbors - Russia is in fight for supremacy with China and is only buddy buddy because Europe currently hates them; Vietnam, Philippines, India, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan all hate China and are US allies and have zero desire to see Chinese hegemony and Chinese can't use war to coerce them either. There was a good article about this recently on how China is a country that's potentially as powerful as a superpower but has absolutely no reach with that power.

Another thing is - 21st century will almost certainly be at least as massive and world changing as the 19th century was and we're only at the beginning. True AI, robots replacing 80 - 90% of the workforce, powersuits/exoskeletons, VR, global internet of everything, artificial wombs, average lifespans of 120+ years, god only knows what's coming and what reprecussions that all could have. For example, if robots do take over practically all of our jobs where will that leave the people, how are the people going to make money then? And what about the economy considering right now our economy is based on consumer spending and robots obviously aren't consumers?

And THEN you have the global warming. If you think immigration is bad now it will almost certainly get thousand times worse as resources are genuinely depleted and entire regions are inhospitable.

Really who the fuck knows what the world will look like in 2100 or who will be on the top. Whoever adapts best and doesn't fall to internal rebellion or external pressure and doesn't run out of resources.
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>>151322210
>implying the market of aristocrats didn't regulate itself
>implying anyone cared about the 7th in line to the county of hohenzburgerstein
>implying they deserved to be aristocrats
By your logic, literally everyone alive today is an aristocrat.
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>>151321963
how about you actually refute things he says instead of being a dismissive fuckhead

I actually wanna know how did the chinese influence the world barring inventions
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>>151322627
cuck
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>>151322745
Read a book.
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>>151322840
cuck
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>>151322627
>since neither sides wants total destruction
This is a meme and should stop being thrown around.
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>>151323106
cuck
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>>151323106
*Tips 1945 to 2016*
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>>151323106
Are you saying China wants to stop existing as a country and losing ~95% of its population?

Even North Korean leaders aren't insane enough to genuinely start a nuclear war and Chinese leaders are hell of lot saner than that.
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>>151323281
Soviets had a classified dead man's switch. No deterrent, no logic, just spite.
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>>151322840

So you were full of shit all along?
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>>151323405
cuck
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>>151323281
Pax Britannica lasted from 1815 to 1914 or for 99 years.

Pax Americana started in 1945 and is still going. Considering it's only 2016 and 99 yeas since 45 would be 2044 we have something like 30 more years before we should be getting seriously worried over the state of Pax Americana.
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>>151322643
Im stating how it went anon.
Simple as that. Crusades were about greed and land, just like any other Middle Age conflict.


>literally everyone alive today is an aristocrat
Now that you mention it i know an American who has family tree directly descending from William the Conqueror. He is...32nd descendant and they emigrated to the States in 16th century?
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>>151323440
Nah you're just too stupid and arrogant to be worth bothering with outside memeing.

Read a book.
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>>151323405
I think you're confusing the plot of dr.strangelove with real life.
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>>151323405
>No deterrent
But it is a deterrent. It's a guarantee that even if Americans nuke them they will nuke them back. That's what deterrent is.
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>>151323604
That movie was fucking shit. Nothing happened.
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>>151323604
Truth is stranger than fiction.
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>>151322627
>Automation

Protip - social services have major issues right now and its 2.5 workers per pensioner.
In 30 years it will be 1 worker per pensioner IF we use 85 year lifespan.
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>>151323692
t. pleb tier ledditor
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>>151323685
It's only a deterrent if the other side knows about it. This wasn't for enemy nuclear strikes.
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>>151323571
The land won in the crusades wasn't given to unlanded aristocrats, it was given to religious (military) orders, and bishops.
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>>151323579
Alright, I see you're adamant at being an arrogant shit, would you mind giving me a name of a book which details how the chinese culturally influenced places that weren't japan or korea?
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>>151323828
It was literally re.ddit the movie.
>le funny the bomb dimitri
>oh noes nuclear destruction
>xDxD bomb riding man
>he doesn't give vomem his semen ;-DD
>haha he cant walk hes disable!!!!
Kubrick was a Jew AND a hack.
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>>151324123
cuck
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>>151324179
You can deconstruct and dismiss literally everything like this, stop being such a contrarian fuck, christ almighty.
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>>151324179
"nukes" aren't real anyway, it was just an lie made up by the jew to keep their puppet governments in check
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>>151323873

>Crusader States rulers
Jerusalem and Eddesa - sons of Count of Bologne
Antioch - son of Count of Apulia and Calabria
Tripoli - son of Count of Toulouse

Dont push it lad
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>>151323368
>Are you saying China wants to stop existing as a country and losing ~95% of its population?
And your logic behind this is what exactly? Nuclear weapons don't get dropped on population hotspots but strategic targets, like missile silos and military bases. You're more likely to get killed by nuclear weapon while standing in the woods near any sort of military facility than in a big city.

Now I have no fucking clue whether or not China places possible military targets inside of people's living rooms in Shanghai but I'm willing to bet they don't. Nuclear war isn't about killing as many people as possible, it's about destroying the enemies options to attack you with nuclear weapons.
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>>151323827
Oh there are absolutely a lot of upsides to robots, it's the reason why Japan wants to introduce as many of them as possible as early as possible, especially when it comes to taking care of the elderly who also feel more comfortable with robots than with immigrants (their words, not mine). And, looking at it small scale, a robot worker is just objectively better than a human worker in any job that can be performed by a robot, which will be most of them pretty soon, they're faster, more accurate, almost never make mistakes, you don't have to pay them and they can work 24/7 - the sheer productivity is off the charts.

Only the issue arises when you start looking at macro economics - if practically all the workforce is replaced with robots then 1) how will people live and 2) how will the economy live.

There are potential answers to it, you could have, for example, people own robots and own the robots labor and be payed salaries for labor provided by the robot. Then poor people might have one robot or none at all, middle class people might have two or three robots giving them wages and upper class people would have thousands of robots all funneling their wages into their pockets. That way the economy is effectively slave based and humans have even more time to shop fueling the economy even more (since robots can work 24/7 it;s certain there would be substantial rise in GDP).

But that's all obviously extremely hypothetical.
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>>151323852
>It's only a deterrent if the other side knows about it. This wasn't for enemy nuclear strikes.
Even if Americans didn't have hard proof of it they suspected it and that's enough in the nuclear game. Just potentially having a nuke is enough of a deterrent on its own. It's why Israel keeps deliberately vague and uncertain policy regarding their nukes - their enemies have to assume they have nukes even though they might not have them at all.
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>>151324393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNY
>>151324510
Actually in my opinion immigration is very troublesome about this.
You are importing people who cannot fully integrate themselves and in 30 years they wont have proper jobs.
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>>151324463
I was talking about the land, not the titles. Titles were literally pointless without land.
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>>151324504
The eternal anglo always finds an excuse to kill civilians
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>>151324504
yeah, that's why civilians targets were exempt from bombings during world war 2, right?

In total war everyone is a combatant, even the babe sucking on its mothers tit.
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>>151324361
I honestly didn't find it very good, very funny or whatever. I'm not being contrarian it's just it bored the hell out of me. It's really more Ameridan humour.
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redpill me on großgermaniums
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>>151324952
history games
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>>151324952
>i don't remember what /gsg/ used to be like when it was GOOD: the post
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>>151324952
>why are people talking about history instead of shitposting about liquor and alex grandi :^(
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>>151324952
R&I AUTIST LITERALLY FOAMING AT HIS MOUTH

You kind feel bad about nuking radyugo now, don't ya, their shitposting was at least tangentially related to victoria 2.
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>>151317784
sorry for late reply. i meant poland, who i initially referenced
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>>151324952
Why not both?
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>>151325106
t. reed
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>>151324778
Nigger you're comparing completely normal ordnance with nuclear weapons. World War 2 was mostly strategic bombing as well.
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>>151325054
>>151325085
>poorly informed shitflinging with memes added in
>history discussion
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>>151325278
>World War 2 was mostly strategic bombing as well.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>151325329
/gsg/ has always been /pol/ mixed with /his/ and that's the way we like it.
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>>151325428
don't forget /int/ lad
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>>151325372
This is your "argument"?
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>>151325428
>/gsg/ has always been /pol/ mixed with /his/ and that's the way we like it.
Yup. If there'a new gsg or DLC on the horizon of course it makes sense to talk about it But if there isn't sometimes it's more fun to talk about history than repeating same things over and over about Vicky3 or eu4
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>>151325529
What argument? Majority of world war two bombing was against civilians for the purpose of killing or intimidating civilians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Berlin_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki
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>>151325681
XD u got them gud bobo
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>>151325278
except it wasn't, and terror bombing was employed by both sides of the conflict
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>>151325841
>>151325930
why is there no terror bombing in hoy4
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LET'S GO KUK
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>>151326008
Same reason there's no holocaust or gulags - paracucks don't want to be imprisoned and sent to reeducation camps in People's Paradise of Swedistan.
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>>151325841
>This concentrated, direct bombing of industrial targets
>plans to destroy the Royal Air Force to allow an invasion of Britain were failing
>A 1953 United States Air Force report defended the operation as the justified bombing of a strategic target, which they claimed was a major rail transport and communication centre, housing 110 factories and 50,000 workers in support of the German war effort
>as part of the Allied campaign of strategic bombing of Germany
>unironically includes the nuclear bombings
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>>151325841
>germany bombed literally every city in england for almost a year
>they got bombed once, in dresden, and it was to destroy factories
Should have nuked Berlin.
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hmm this really challenged my preconceived notions of hunting trips
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>>151326127
this is like the only on topic post int he entire thread
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>>151326127
>importing liquor
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the first battle has been won
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>>151326008
thats called strategic bombing.
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Luckily bavaria is my ally

persian troops have marched all the way through anatolia and up to the balkans
good lads
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>>151326259
the nuclear bombs that were dropped on japan were only slightly more potent than regular carpet bombing
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>>151326285
>>they got bombed once, in dresden, and it was to destroy factories
Actually by the end of the war pretty much every singe medium sized and larger city in Germany was in ruins as was the entire infrastructure of Germany, especially the roads and railways. By the end of the war nazis couldn't use what oil they did have (that they had to shuffle around because they didn't have enough for all the panzers) to anything beyond local level because all roads and railroads were destroyed.

Also works for >>151326259
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and with italian intervention the war is over in just over a year

I can always count on euro infighting to let the turksmell empire expand
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>>151326285
>>they got bombed once, in dresden, and it was to destroy factories
they got firebombed, btw, and the entire cities caught fire and hundreds of thousands of civilians died. Ironically huge number of slave laborers that were forced to come to Germany to work and Jews in hiding that weren't yet discovered also got killed by the fire bombings of Germany.
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>>151326310
hmm this is ok
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>>151326578
Boast army dechs
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>>151326794
KuK got KuKed
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I see the WWI German Wojak posted in here often but it's always been a British trench background, so I fixed it.
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>>151326597
And? The nuclear bombings have nothing to do with topic. They were supposed to show the Japanese that they need to surrender if they don't want to starve to death while getting invaded by crazy Soviet liberators. It was the best option available.
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>>151306321
P-please respond
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>>151326883
10/10

not even mad
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>>151326660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELUP-oZQKM4
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>>151317546
Technically speaking the concept of a 'good christian' killing people is sort of oxymoronic.
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>>151327013
Just download the latest patch off the archive and update the files (copy paste them over the old ones and click yes until something happens)
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>>151326926
>wojak wears a stahlhelm
>soldiers behind him still wear the older pickelhaube helmets

you fucked up
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>>151319273
Wrong. Christianity historically won because it has a carrot (heaven) and a stick (hell). While these might not be theologically speaking actual physical places, the fact remains you can be forever comfy or forever uncomfy.
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Earlier japan called me into a war with russia where we won by a lot and japan cut them down to size and now finland has declared independence

since I still have a truce with russia I can't help them right now but I will at least fund the efforts of the northern turks.
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>>151326926
that wojak is from the late war pham

i would like to see a pickelhaube wojak tho
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>>151327142
Because Christianity is the hippy religion. Jesus was carpenter that preached love and forgiveness.

Islam, on the other hand, is explicitly warlord religion. It's totally fine to kill or enslave nonbelievers and it's fine to rape nonbeliever women and Muhammed himself (the perfect Muslim according to Islam) was a thief then a warlord that married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her when she was 9.
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>>151327086
>6/6/6 heir doesn't last a year

Oh anon

that's what you get for playing a bad game though, so I can't feel bad about you.
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>>151320492
That's not me you faggot
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>>151327313
I'm sure that 0.111 pounds each day will help a lot against Russia
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>>151327142
Not really. Being a good Christian and good human being doesn't include getting killed by your enemies, does it? There is nothing that says you shan't defend yourself from your enemies. I think people misunderstand and think being a Christian means you have to roll over and accept everything that happens while opening wide for penetration.
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meanwhile greece is stewing in their shittiness and anger and have established hellenig gommunism to counter my absolute monarchy

>>151327465
I don't think there's a way to give them more
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>>151327345
>that married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her when she was 9.

there's nothing wrong with this tho
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>>151326926
Put him on this.
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>>151327309
I'd actually tend to ascribe it also to the fact that anyone, literally anyone, could get the carrot just by having bad feels and asking for forgiveness. Huge stick, easily accessible carrot.
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>>151327326
I'll upload my folder for you

>>151327515
Alright gimme a sec
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>>151327507
Don't ignore me you Jew.
>>151326897
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>>151327490
Technically speaking, killing at all is not okay in Christianity. Even to defend the weak it's more about substituting yourself than destroying the enemy with force.
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>>151327149
Archive?
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>>151327515
that's WWII
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>>151327458
FUCK YOU CHANG I HOPE YOU GET SENT TO A CHINESE EQUIVALENT OF SIBERIA FOR FRATERNIZING WITH WESTERNERS YOU SLIT EYED SHIT
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>>151327512
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>>151327490
>I think people misunderstand and think being a Christian means you have to roll over and accept everything that happens while opening wide for penetration.
Actually in the purest possible Christianity that IS exactly what it means. Remember all the shit Jesus suffered through absolutely no fault of his own and how he rolled over and let it happen? That's what you're supposed to be like.

It's maybe the most accurate to say medieval Christianity was Christianity tempered with pagan and tribal warrior culture influences as it spread to previous warrior culture pagans.
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>>151327793
I honestly don't know why I even post here when Americans are awake.

>>151327795
Not him
Nine years old is a bit early because it's essentially pointless, but I don't see an issue with how early they marry.
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why is vic 2's economy so shit
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>>151328005
Because memes are more fun than dollars.
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>>151328005
because it's a shit game made for shit people
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>>151327737
Yeah i know.
>>151326926
That guy wants WW1.
Here, take this one.
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>>151327860
>It's maybe the most accurate to say medieval Christianity was Christianity tempered with pagan and tribal warrior culture influences as it spread to previous warrior culture pagans.
Catholicism is Christianity heavily watered down with Platonic philosophy atop an Indo-European pagan substrate, yeah.
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>>151327490
Christianity is supposed to emulate Jesus / God's love and spread it to everyone.
God's love, unfortunately for society, is so fucking massive in scale and so unprejudiced, that you love the person who just raped your sister in front of you and gutted your dad as much as you love your sister and your dad.
If someone slaps you you turn your other cheek. If someone threatens to knife you, you take your shirt off to let him aim easier. If someone punches you, you smile at him and tell him he can do it again if he wants.
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>>151327646

I have effectively no navy though and no navy techs
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>>151328005
Because it's controlled by the jews
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>>151328082
trob
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>>151328069
>muh dollar
>1836
well shitposted
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>>151328005
the only guy that knew how it worked quit before the second expansion IIRC

>>151328140
Jehovah has a hell of a fetish there
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>>151327860
>>151328140
Maybe it depends on the interpretation.
>tfw muslimfags are right about their constant interpretation drivel
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>>151326578
Persians are white and based
and I mean it
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>>151328138
You call it watered down I call it strengthened up. All the things that were achieved in the middle ages were achieved because of the stronger, more aggressive sort of Christianity compared to the earliest one.

As great as "love everyone" thing is the real world doesn't work like that.
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>>151327245

Wojak, being the bitch that he is, is a new recruit from the class of 1916.
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>>151328398
>Iran
They are based actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2LEgowbzSc
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>>151328398
>speak an indo-european language

They're certainly more white than finns or magyars, that's for sure
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>>151328560
Pray tell, are North Indians also based, in that case?

The Finns, Magyars, and Estonians sure as hell aren't based, however.

Which makes it worse that EU4 merged Finnish into Scandinavian. Seriously, what the fuck was that culture group fuckery.
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>>151328438
I didn't mean a value judgement there. If it had stayed in the old form it would have been about as effective and wide spread as Jainism.
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>>151328398
Iran was great and equal to Rome until it got conquered by Arabs and forced to abandon native customs and practices for the Arab ones. Then it became third world shithole.
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>>151328339
No it doesn't depend on interpretation, it's very clearly stated out.
>Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Matthew 5:38-41.

>>151328438
That's just not the same religion then. The centerpiece of Christianity is loving everyone.
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>>151328734
Well this guy didnt go through North India but he had some pretty shitty time in central part.
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>>151328560
>>151328561
Iranians aren't Indo-European they're Indo-Aryan. It's an entirely different branch of the Indo-European people that split from us too fucking long ago to care.
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>>151328734
>Pray tell, are North Indians also based, in that case?
To much Arab in them from Mohameddan rape babies
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>>151328915
I'm sure there is a lot of Arab in a lot of Persians nowadays as well.
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>>151328913
Indo-Aryans are a sub group of Indo-European faget. It's like saying Germanic or Celtic.
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>>151328830
>That's just not the same religion then. The centerpiece of Christianity is loving everyone.
Well it's a good thing Indo-Europeans come from paganism and retained some core aspects of paganism even converted to Christianity.

On a similar not, I think the reason women held much better (relatively speaking) position in medieval society compared to Roman society (in which women weren't really meant to participate) is because of the tribal legacy that wasn't tempered by anything. You can't have strong gendered society when you're pagan in Northern Europe and I think that carried over after our settlement.
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>>151329060
Yeah but less. And without the Dravidian bits already floating around.
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>>151329205
Just fuck my central Europe up
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>>151329071
No they're not, they're two different branches that each further branch out that separated long ago.
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>>151329167
I'm not sure they held significantly better positions. They remained mainly behind-closed doors, and they were respected in Roman society as well, if mainly as mothers and wives. You always had people like Cornelia, daughter of Scipio though who everyone loved.
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>>151329167
>On a similar not, I think the reason women held much better (relatively speaking) position in medieval society compared to Roman society (in which women weren't really meant to participate) is because of the tribal legacy that wasn't tempered by anything.
Depends on when in Rome and when in Medieval Europe you're talking. Big span of time on both to compare. Some Roman women were certainly better off than some Medieval women, and vice versa.

Greek women were always fucked though.
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>>151328772
Eh, I'd put a bit more blame on the decades of wars between the Sassanids and the Romans. The only reason the Arabs managed to even beat either was because the Persians and the Romans beat each other half to death before the Arab conquests.

Besides, the Persians became great again with the Safavids. If Nader Shah had just managed to retain his holdings and not gone insane, Iran would've stayed rather powerful into the 19th century and beyond (depending on how they sided during WWI).
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>>151329060
Persians are muslim but hate Arabs with a passion. The sunni ones, at least.
Do you lads think the theocracy will fall in our lifetimes?
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>>151329336
You don't know what you're talking about and furthermore shut up.
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>>151329534
>Do you lads think the theocracy will fall in our lifetimes?
No. Ironically "Arab Spring" bullshit in the near east has ensured its continuation for generations to come.
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>>151329347
Well they had it pretty shit compared to modern times but compared to Rome they had it swell. Women could participate in politics, women could vote for kings in elective (mostly Germanic and Frankish) monarchies, women could take over as regents or even full fledged rulers (such as Empress Matilda or Matilda of Tuscany who is extremely important in Italian and European history). They could even be well educated and it seems like whenever there was a well educated intelligent woman (like Anna of Kiev) the husband would more often than not sign both their names on all legal documents. Finally, even if they were consort instead of regnant they could have enough power to drive politics of even the most powerful European kingdoms for decades (such as the Frankish war of the queens).
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>>151329534
i only like shiites because they make sunni's ultra butthurt and go into an akbar rage
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>>151329464
>greek women were always fucked though

That's odd, I thought it was the boys.
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Daily reminder Chinese have only based deity in the world. Abrahamic god is edgy.
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give me a country to play in EU4 and maybe some mods
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>>151329815
Roman politics was about families in the senate though. There's even specula that the Gracchi brother's reforms were driven partially at least by Cornelia.

>>151330082
Those aren't Chinese though.
Also pagan gods in general are cool because their stories are more interesting even when they're edgy.
>Pagan Gods are alpha and turn into literal golden showers to impregnate women
>Abrahamic god throws a bitchfit over cowgirl because he has shit taste
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>>151328398
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>>151329838
>It is told [in the hadith] that Omar Ibn Al-Khattab had an anal disease, which could be cured only by semen. One should know that this is a well-known medical condition, which is also mentioned in sacred texts.

>The Shiites are undoubtedly protected from this disease
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>>151329464
>Greek women were always fucked though.
Well that depended a lot on which city state it was. Athenian women, somewhat ironically, had it worse as they were treated almost like property. They were always to be under the care of a male figure, never independent, early on it was father, later it was husband or brother or cousin. They weren't supposed to leave the house or show their face in public or participate in the public life.

But Spartan women had lot more rights than that and lot greater participation in society.
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>>151329534
The thing about the middle east is democracy doesn't work there. They just elect Islamists, so you need Ba'athists like Assad to ensure secular rule, through force.

Pic related, in Assad's Syria you have fashion shows, in "democratic" "freedom fighter" "moderate" Syria you have women forced to wear head to toe black bin bags in 40° weather.
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>>151329782
I second this, mainly due to the results of the Springtime of Nations (the Revolutions of 1848 and 1849), which were similar revolts against autocratic rule. Just like the Arab Spring, the liberal forces ultimately failed and the cause of liberalism (not modern liberalism, calm down lads) and democracy were set back decades (a few groups, like the Hungarians, did benefit but they did not achieve their goal of independence from Austria).

In short, expecting anything for the next 20-30 years is a bit too optimist.
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>>151330082
>Daily reminder Chinese have only based deity in the world.
That's not Kek

>>151330291
That's because the Spartan men were never fucking around to make any kind of decisions outside the Gedrousia or the barracks.
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>>151330336
it did influence the prussians in adopting a consitution tho
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>>151330304
>The thing about the middle east is democracy doesn't work there. They just elect Islamists, so you need Ba'athists like Assad to ensure secular rule, through force.

Then why the fuck are we trying to force democracy on them let them do their own thing let them build a caliphate if they want.
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>>151330481
Prussians are Traditionalist Socialist.
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>>151330596
>why the fuck are we trying to force democracy on them
Ask your senators then.
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>>151329534
>Do you lads think the theocracy will fall in our lifetimes?
If anything it will get worse. Middle East is never going to be less theocratic than it is now, once they run out of oil it will be back to fucking camels and 6 year old girls in the desert.

And even the west isn't immune, even the most secular nations like France or Denmark are actually encouraging and acknowledging the Christian heritage in their countries and now that it's under constant onslaught by the Muslims right wing politicians that are winning the most votes these days are pushing that sort of cultural heritage. While I don't think we will experience medieval style theocracy in Europe (unless Germany and/or the UK genuinely fall to the Muslims) but there is and likely will be Christian revival.
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>>151330596
>Then why the fuck are we trying to force democracy on them let them do their own thing let them build a caliphate if they want.
We aren't. We're asking them kindly to do it but then giving them money to shoot each other and us over differing interpretations of their bronze age camel fucker book.
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>>151330630
wtf does that have to do with my post
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>>151330596
Politics, influence, bullshit that nobody but governments care about.
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>>151330596

Because america can't stop bringing freedom to fucking everyone.
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>>151330645
Well why the senators are doing it is very clear, they don't want democracy they just want to protect their interests. I'm talking about the general populace supporting this shit saying "wez bringin dem ayyrabs democracies"
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reapers due when

it would be nice after the horrible DLC we just had
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>>151330270
>Budai isnt Chinese
He is literally Chinese only representation of future Buddha based on folklore deity.

Same way for instance bunch of South Slav saints and holidays are based on Pagan gods.
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>>151330336
>there is a difference between classical liberalism and modern liberalism
Literally where? "Classical" liberals were the ones who abolished slavery, "classical" liberals were the ones who enforced secularism, "classical" liberals were the ones who let everyone, even uneducated plebs vote. Liberals were the ones saying Jews and other minorities should have equal rights.
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>>151330893
But muh Yuhuang Dadi
Buddhism is gay and Indian
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is there any working extended timeline link?
i have eu4 1.14 and everytime i try to start the game it crashes to desktop in the middle of loading screen.
pls help
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>>151330596
>Then why the fuck are we trying to force democracy on them let them do their own thing let them build a caliphate if they want.
Weird combination of 1) idealistic belief democracy is always the best 2) cold hard interest the west in general has in oil and strategic importance of the Middle East and 3) American imperialism specifically that seeks to build and secure informal empire across the globe

Those three are interacting but not always with each other and not always with the knowledge or even approval of each other and they produce... interesting results.
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>>151331050
>playing a meme mod
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>>151330884
>I'm talking about the general populace supporting this shit saying "wez bringin dem ayyrabs democracies"
I haven't seen anyone say that in like a decade.
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0-4 Start new Victoria II campaign
5-9 Start new Hearts of Iron III campaign

rollan
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>>151330884
The general populace is almost guaranteed to be retarded when talking about foreign policy, how is this news?
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>>151331218
I haven't seen anyone say that since 2002. And even then it was hardly unanimous .
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>>151330907
If classical liberals had their way you'd never have had to deal with niggers in the first place, Stormfront. They'd all be locked in overseas sweat shops.
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>>151331182
i just want to try it man
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>>151330989
>Jade Emperor
>Journey to the West

Best hentai ever lad.
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>>151331417
ur gonna get memed on brah
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>>151330676
>Soviets are invading Afagistan
>US doesn't like Commies, so we start pouring weapons and money into Afghanistan
>Send 50 million just to educate little children on jihad literacy so they become mujahadin
>Fuck over the Soviets real good
>Fuck, well, they still have the weapons we gave them and they're radicalized.
All in a day's work for the world police.

>>151330907
This is /gsg/. For most people here, liberalism means "SJW trigger trumblr etc." And getting into the neoliberalism, classical liberalism, and so on is another tangent.

The point was that the Arab Spring was a repeat of the 1848, 1849 Revolutions that cemented reactionarism in Europe for decades. Which is likely what we'll see in the Middle East for a good while, if historical parallels are any indication.
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>>151331167
Wrong.

We're doing it because we get money from Saudi Arabia. We know damn well we aren't helping any future Syrian democracy. it's pure favor for a favor shit

t. Hillary Clinton
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>>151331519
Shut it down!
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>>151331519
>t. Hillary Clinton
You know, I could actually believe Hillary Clinton is really here.
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0-1 Holland
2-3 Brittany
4-5 Tuscany
6-7 Genoa
8-9 Papal States
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>>151331519
>Explode Egypt (why?)
>Egypt now sides with the Russians
Good job
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>>151331498
>>US doesn't like Commies, so we start pouring weapons and money into Afghanistan
>>Send 50 million just to educate little children on jihad literacy so they become mujahadin
Mujahadeen came later. USSR was worse then than Islam is now anyway. Also I assumed you were talking about shit we were doing right now, not decades ago.
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>>151331454
im looking for a viable solution for this crashing shit for a long time and its my first time asking it to /gsg/, if there is at least one person has an idea about how to fix it, ill give it a shot
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>>151331609
>le pig may may XD
>>>/leftypol/
>>>/r/fullcommunism
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>>151331646
Not just Egypt, by all looks Egypt, Syria and Iran will all become Russian allies.

Syria and Egypt are both ridiculously massive because the Russians have never had a friendly ports on the Mediterranean before, so that alone is huge. And Iran is just overall very important in geopolitical sense, they have ton of oil, they're in extremely important geographic positions, they counterbalance the Saudis.
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>>151331674
>USSR was worse then than Islam is now anyway
wat
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>>151331741
ur justa spook man XDDD
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>>151331646
Fuck you got mine
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>>151331609
If only someone put a jew nose on that pig I could post this to /r/pol for karma.
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>>151331741
dindu nothing xdd
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>>151331674
>USSR was far worse

USSR and USA did same shit during cold war but Russia stopped. Putin is reviving the trend though.

Like seriously we talk about Middle East yet USA couped South America over banana tariffs.
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>>151331674
>USSR was worse then than Islam is now anyway.
6 to 8 million angry muzzies in France, 5 ish million angry muzzies in Germany and 2 ish million angry muzzies in Sweden would all like to disgaree, mate.
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>>151331609
>>>/r/fullcommunism
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>151331861
Islam beheads a German or French cuck on a quasi-daily basis.

The USSR nearly destroys the world and devours entire nations in an existential immediate threat to western way of life as we know it.

Now be a good goy and buy another Che Guevara t-shirt to save your fee-fees

>>151331926
>Like seriously we talk about Middle East yet USA couped South America over banana tariffs.
t. Hugo Chavez
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>>151332009
Your fault for inviting them in tbqh
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>>151332081
Go to bed granpa
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>>151331674
No, no my friend. The US actually funded jihad literacy during the 1980s. Sources are washington post and NPR, so up to you to trust credibility. There's a bunch of stuff about it on the internet on quite a few sources.

But the weapons the US sent over during the 1980s didn't just disappear, nor did the leaders (the mujahadin leaders became leaders of the Taliban, bin Laden was part of it, as was the ISIS sort-of founder).

>>151332009
All of the older generations in Eastern Europe would, I imagine, would disagree with your sentiments.
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>>151332081
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company
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>>151332313
>Sources are washington post and NPR, so up to you to trust credibility.
I don't
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>>151331857
Egypt is still a US allly, Sisi is a sissy.

Syria is literally a proxy war between Assad (Russia) and the "democratic" "moderate" "freedom fighters" (US)

And Iran is a long time Russian ally, mainly due to Israel. Because Iran funds Hezbollah who Israel hate, so America hate them as well, plus the hostage shit.
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>>151332081
>The USSR nearly destroys the world
If you're talking about MAD that's bs and you know it, because they're sensible enough to not actually destroy the world. North Korea or a fundamentalist, if given nukes, might actually fucking launch them.

>and devours entire nations
Not really, its sphere of influence was roughly the same in relevant parts of the world.

>existential immediate threat to western way of life as we know it.
This is fucking retarded and you know it. Unless they fucking invaded in all-out war Western Europe it simply wouldn't have happened, unless you're saying they flipped over on their own democratically but then who are you to stop them.
Speaking of existential immediate threats, I think insane fuckers driving trucks into crowds on a national day is a pretty big threat seeing as similar shit happens all the time.
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>>151328119
isn't that also ww2?
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>>151332434
>because they're sensible enough to not actually destroy the world.
Almost happened twice. Never trust a wodka nigger
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>>151332434
>USSR
I dont remember ever hearing about mass shootings in USSR done by civilians.
Maybe USA should go Communist now.
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>>151332557
>almost happened twice
It didn't happen, and Americans aren't exactly 'sensible' either. To the people in the mideast I can only imagine they look at America the way Americans look at dirty gommies, or ten times worse.
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When did /gsg/ turn pure commie? You guys were a reactionary hellhole last time I was here.
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>>151332434
>North Korea or a fundamentalist, if given nukes, might actually fucking launch them.
Ironically both of them now have or are close to having them,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

http://www.newsofpakistan.com/2016/08/10/therell-be-nuclear-war-with-india-over-kashmir-hizbul-chief-syed-salahudeen/
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>>151327515
Did both of those, two versions of each. They're in here. I can't find my larger folder, it might be on my other HD
https://mega.nz/#!kYZlQS4b!M1u4xZVW0b48YYgVrK5XK8mJ8DbdILswj5LQVgBReg8
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>>151332667
/r/fullcommunism immigrants that come though /r/paradoxplaza get a bit loud sometimes

we're still keeping them at bay, though
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>>151332662
>le one mans turrist is ober man's freedum fighter XD

t. community college

>the way Americans look at dirty gommies, or ten times worse.
Nah most Americans are like you and think the dirty gommies were just misunderstood
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>>151332662
Balkans and South America too.
If Americans were normal people they would stop with Cold War policies once Cold War was well...over.
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>>151332667
lmao wut where'd you get that from
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Is there a vicky II mod that lets me genocide or remove a culture population from my regions?

I must create a pure Boer republic
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>>151332081
>The USSR nearly destroys the world
If this had happened it would have been like ww1 - everyone's fucking fault.

>devours entire nations
see: history of the entire North Africa and the Middle East before the Muslim hordes came through genociding

> in an existential immediate threat to western way of life as we know it.
Oh please, muzzies are much bigger threat to the western way of life than commies ever were. If they started war we would all die including Russians and Americans and there would be no way of life. Whereas muzzies are slowly killing us from the inside and we can't even fight back. Within a generation extremely bloody civil war will be the only way to dislodge islam from Europe, within two ro three generation they would have won completely without needing to mess with nukes or fire a single shot.
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>>151332858
The US didn't have Cold War policies in place half the time the Cold War was actually on

fucking kids
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>>151317291
you clearly didnt play hoy 3 on release with japan dedicating its industry to build hundreds of transport ships
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>>151332697
Yeah I know they are. It's terrible.
North Korea is a meme. What is Kim even trying to get done?

>t. community college
Do you REALLY fucking think that the mideast looks kindly on Americans stirring shit there every time it seems relatively calm? Say what you want about Saddam but he kept the place from detonating while he was there, and what about Egypt, why the fuck did you stir shit there?

>the dirty gommies were just misunderstood
There's literally nothing to misunderstand, just things to agree or disagree with. That being said,, what the communists did right or wrong has fucking nothing to do with what the Americans are doing right or wrong, today.
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So I downloaded DAO for EU3 and it looks okay but the Americas are a bit wonky looking and I don't care for the Ottomans being renamed Turkey even in 1399. Just seems odd. Though I like the graphics the best

I also saw CanOmer's Map in the archive and the Americas look better but they're also quite a bit farther north than I'd like.

My autism is flaring I wish I could combine what I like from the two
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Which components of HIP should I install? Are all of them good?
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>>151333198
>That being said,, what the communists did right or wrong has fucking nothing to do with what the Americans are doing right or wrong, today.
Agreed. So why the fuck did you bring it up
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>>151333002
>1956
>Arabs actually becoming civilized
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4RK8bj2W0
>USA decides to fund Arab Spring

TRULY THE GREATEST ALLY
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>>151333198
Christ. >>151332827
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>>151333002
>USA causes the rise of radical islam from the 1950s to the 2000s
>MUSLIMS ARE DESTROYING THE WEST GUYS AND WE CAN'T STOP THEM!!!
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>>151333198
He just wants to meme it out
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>>151333345
When did I bring it up? If you're talking about >>151331498, that's not me and from what I can tell he's just saying that the Americans go to insane extremes to "protect" their interests with incredible short-sightedness.
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>>151333198
>Middle east
>Gadaffi
http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/markets/item/4630-gadhafi-s-gold-money-plan-would-have-devastated-dollar
>wrecked
>Saddam picks up the baton
I wonder what happened next...
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>>151333347
My right ear enjoyed your video.
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>>151333569
>If you're talking about >>151331498,
I'm not. I'm talking about your

>b-but the Afghan War!

post
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>>151333657
Wait misread your post. >>151333569

Yeah I confused you with another faggot. Sorry.
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>/r/paradoxplaza
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we should honestly just kill the saudis tbf me laddies
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>>151333587
>greed gets in the way of reform
Every time
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>>151333908
You have my sword
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>>151333062
I don't get it, is this implying that there's a significant source of money besides precious metal in-game, in order to offset the supposed unexpected loss of money, or that the continual loss of money ruins the economy by the end of the game?

Because neither is true.

And if it's not implying either of those things, then there wasn't any point to the whole post.
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>>151333198
>North Korea is a meme. What is Kim even trying to get done?
I think, at this point, he's probably just trying to survive. I hate him as much as the next guy but, in practical terms, Jong Un's not an idiot. He's had a prestigious education at a western university (One in Switzerland, the name eludes me) and he likely knows what happens to failed dictators.

Aside from that, he wasn't even supposed to be the Supreme Leader (his brothers had to fuck up first) and his regime wasn't very sturdy to begin with. His people are starving due to droughts and China's growing less and less tolerant of North Korea's antics as relations with the US improve (it's still just a buffer state). It's sort of a Damocles situation for him.
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>>151333872
>doesn't even realize hes saying communism can only work in victoria 2's broken ass economy
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>discussing the economic exploitation of the workers and nefarious interventionalism in the middle east with a NON nationalist socialist and he starts saying we should destroy borders and be homosexual and let infinite immigrants in

Anyone else know this feel?
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>>151333992
>or that the continual loss of money ruins the economy by the end of the game?
I think it's that if the game ran any longer, this is what would happen. As it is they've fudged it together enough to just barely keep it running within the original timeframe.

>>151334064
kek
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>>151333908
Yeah sure. And then we'll expell all the muzzies from Europe. And then Naomi Watts will sleep with me.

As long as Americans support them that's not happening and with Iran and even Syria turning to Russia there's no way in hell the US will stop supporting them until they run out of oil. And that's not for another 50 or so years.
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>>151333872
Is that actually what happens and why you always have 10M communists by endgame?

>>151334059
>China's growing less and less tolerant of North Korea's antics
It actually has less to do with us getting buddy-buddy with the US and more of NK getting more and more bs. Apparently they tried to ditch us to ally with the US or something which we didn't like, and they also had a stray soldier come in and shoot a bunch of chinks for no reason while running from the law.
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>>151333872
i don't think i've ever physically cringed at something on he internet
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>>151334147
sorry for inflicting clintons on you Eurobro
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>>151334147
Why is Naomi suddenly a semipopular name for westerners
Isn't it a nip name?
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>>151334259
You live in China mate?
How the situation there? I heard your semi-artificial economic growth is slowing down.
Also how do you handle female shortage.
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>>151334143
>As it is they've fudged it together enough to just barely keep it running within the original timeframe.
Not economy but it's always annoyed me that Vicky's social simulation is so simple that it doesn't really have any mode beyond "industrial age population explosion". It leads to silly things like there not being slowdown in the growth of the population when it should be and you also can't model something like France's economic bomb of the 19th century in it (France population 1789: 29 million, population 1914 ~39 million, population 2016: 66 million)
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>>151333872
>communism can only exist in a fantasy world
>not only is it a fantasy world it's also one with an unfinished broken economy
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>>151334447
>Isn't it a nip name?
Like almost every name in the English language it's Biblical in origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_(biblical_figure)

And, the shit? It doesn't even sound Japanese.
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>>151334503
>France's economic bomb of the 19th century in it
They do try to model this, but in a lazy ass way through a static population modifier which is easily overcome through tech and healthcare.
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>>151334460
>I heard your semi-artificial economic growth is slowing down
We'll see what happens I guess. I'm no analyst, it doesn't feel like we'll crash anytime soon at least.

>Also how do you handle female shortage.
Not for me there ain't so idgaf

>How the situation there?
Chinese Valentines was day before yesterday so there were couples everywhere. I saw one guy standing alone outside a restaurant for about two hours. Felt kind of bad for him.

>>151334665
It's a legit sounding nip name though I think - 直美 lit. True Beauty, among other kanji forms.
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>>151333992
>continual loss of money ruins the economy by the end of the game
The short answer is yes. Any mod that extends the timeline either messes with the economic system (most times failing horribly) or ends in horrible economic failure in a century.

>>151334259
Huh, well. I don't understand how North Korea could possibly imagine siding with the US. I can see the second point (soldier goes rogue, decides to try and escape but fucks up, NK refuses to apologize for some reason). But, in any case, China is losing patience with the NK leadership. I think wikileaks had a thing with some younger Chinese politicians discussing NK (namely pulling out Chinese support because it's becoming a rabid dog and a rabid guard dog that might turn on your in a fit of madness is a bit of an issue). But East Asia might be an interesting theatre in the coming decades.
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Is there any way to change the realm names in HIP? I want them in English
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How long will Richard live before he dies of illness?
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>>151333872
lel no wonder meneth fucked off to that delusional shithole
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>>151334143
The economy actually gains massive amounts of money by the end of the game. It's easy to gather up tens or a hundred million victoriabux by the end (with another 50 in the pop bank), you don't think that much money existed at the start of the game do you?
As far as I know there are only two sources of money in the game, "private investors" that can give something like 5000 victoriabux when you try to take a loan without there being anywhere else to take a loan from, and are therefore a fairly insignificant source of money over the course of the game, and precious metal RGOs which create huge volumes of money every day. The one in China employs about 1 million pops and they're getting a superb wage created out of thin air. There are other big ones in Japan and Indonesia.
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>>151334870
>I don't understand how North Korea could possibly imagine siding with the US
That's why I said I think Kim is cracking.
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>>151334503
>France's economic bomb
*France's demographic bomb
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>>151334879
install the english localisation
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>>151334802
Whats Chinese stance on religions nowadays..id assume its secular?
What do you do with gay people.

I must say China is pretty badass with muslim issues.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-security-xinjiang-idUSKBN0TC0QT20151123
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>>151334665
>It doesn't even sound Japanese.
Sure it does. There are Japs that are called Naomi, you can perfectly write it with the Japanese system as well.
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90% of the posts ITT aren't about video games
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>>151334923
>only one king made it to 50
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>>151335106
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>>151335014
>Whats Chinese stance on religions nowadays..id assume its secular?
Not that anon but China is like the biggest growing Christian country in the world, even bigger and faster growing than South Korea. There's still strict on them and the government is suspicious of them but there are potentially over 100 million Christians in China.
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>>151335014
>Whats Chinese stance on religions nowadays..id assume its secular?
"Don't bring it into public life". We're building a few churches though, I saw one getting put up the other day.

>What do you do with gay people
I'm not sure if there's laws against or for them but most people seem to think of them as, well, gay. Like a 'well good for you' kind of deal, but they're generally considered to be mentally ill, although I think it's not a formal stance.

>badass
We're generally pretty harsh if you break the law. This is historical - the old punishment for treason wasn't just the death penalty, it was the death penalty for your entire family to nine degrees of separation.

>>151335252
We're not strict or suspicious of them at all. We just don't want them to bring it into the public sector because praying is your own problem, not everyone else's.
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>>151335252
yeah but are they good christians or are they protestant shits
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>>151334935
>The economy actually gains massive amounts of money by the end of the game
This makes me wonder if money is actually only generated through gold mines. They don't make nearly enough to supply the millions of pounds you see in the late game, which makes me think that money is also generated from other RGOs as procuring money out of thin air isn't a problem when Vic 2 lacks an inflation system.
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>>151335430
>protestant shits
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>>151335437
Well how would Vicky 2 regulate bankruptcies...its basically money gone forever?
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>>151335014
The Chinese government became stricter towards Christianity because they're trying to slow down Christianity's inevitable position as the majority religion in China.
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>>151335430
Catholicism is a joke. Protestantism is even more of a joke though, now that I think of it.
It's a mix.
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>>151335430
Which country is responsible for most of the missionary work in non-Christian countries?
Answer: The United States of America.
What is the majority religion of this country?
Answer: Protestantism.
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>>151335560
I honestly am not seeing where this stuff comes from. I got stopped by three separate missionaries in cafes over the past month. If they're getting stricter they're doing a poor job of it.
>implying they shouldn't try to stop it
>implying we need MORE western culture influence when we've already lost most of our original heritage
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>reed james still hasn't learned his lesson
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>>151335430
>Russia didnt go buddy buddy with China
>no Orthodox missionaries
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>>151335534
Actually, general question. What was Hong Xiuquan's form of Christianity? Could it be lumped in Protestantism or is it more like Mormonism (can't even be categorized as Protestant because it's just so...what the fuck).

Because that always confused me when it came to the Taiping Rebellion
>>151335720
Catholicism is the largest single branch of Christianity in the US, however. I think it's around 40% of all Christians in the US are Catholics?
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>>151335734
Your original heritage almost killed you.
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>>151335847
What are you talking about? You mean westerners running in and shooting people when we told them to stop selling opium?
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>>151335734
>21th century missionary
How does that work exactly...what do they do?
They preach like mormons?
>>151335847
>picking on Chinese heritage
Isolationism almost killed them. Mao botched the that leap forward and now whole China is a mess.
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>steamcord this mad they can't meme us
Enjoying this feel tbvqh lads.
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>>151335985
>How does that work exactly...what do they do?
They just fucking walked up to me and literally asked if I had time to talk about jesus
The second one was a bit more subtle though, he started by asking how I was doing as shit then went into 'do you think there's an afterlife' trying to be all casual about it
Weird as fuck.
Also when will the janny show up and delete the willyposter?
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i just want to die
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>autist interrupting perfectly good conversation about Christianity in China

this is why we can't have nice things.
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>>151335961
>China is self sufficient
>nothing to trade goods for
>lets sell them Opium
>pls no
>PUNITIVE EXPEDITIONS
>bleed them dry for silver

Never change Europe
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>>151335837
That's because Catholicism is a single branch while Protestantism is split into different sects (Anglican, Baptist, Lutheran, etc.) in statistics. These statistics also measure church membership. From my personal experience, most Americans aren't actually part of a church.
>>151335734
I didn't mean becoming stricter in the same sense as the Roman Empire trying to suppress Christianity and being openly hostile towards it. I remember reading (could be wrong, of course) that the government has begun limiting the churches involvement in the internal works of the country and had some churches take down exterior Christian symbolism like crosses from the tops of their roofs.
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>>151336145
>allowing your conversation to be interrupted by such pedestrian shitposting

you guys know nothing *tips MJI pin*
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>>151336247
Oh yeah, they aren't letting them interfere with politics, but that's always been the stance. They're just enforcing it now. Religion is a private matter, don't bring it into the public sector.
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>>151335985
>Isolationism almost killed them.
What did I just say
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>>151336123
Were they westerners or Chinese?

I did notice an uptick in missionaries here as well, though I'm in Europe. Just the other day I was stopped by few Germans (last name of one of them was literally Leeuw) and asked if I wanted to talk about religion. I wanted to recite the prayer in Latin but I was in a hurry so instead I just excused myself. Also they might not have been Catholics and it would have been autistic anyway.
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>>151336247
Well non Mao China was always tolerant towards religions, right?

How did Buddhist and Tao react to it?
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>>151335437
The precious metals RGO in China alone produces 500k money per year (in 1836), well over 50 million in the course of the game. Other large ones spring up quickly in Japan and Indonesia and Europe has some high-productivity ones as well. There's absolutely sufficient creation in previous metal RGOs alone to make up for the amount of money seen at the end of the game.

>>151335554
Bankruptcy doesn't destroy any money because the money the debtor nation is spending all came from the real accounts of other nations as loans. By cancelling their debts they just get to keep it.
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>>151336172
>Korea in the background
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>>151336395
Mainly because you shits had to come in and sell drugs you KNEW were addictive to make loadsamone.
Also it's better than the half-assed western-chink shit we have now.
Also it's Qing's fault, Ming was doing fine before bureacrats and fucking populists ruined everything

>>151336420
>non-Mao China
>implying tolerance
We swung between literally paying temples to open up and purging them outright. Roll 1d20.
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>>151336563
>Also it's Qing's fault, Ming was doing fine before bureacrats and fucking populists ruined everything
Bureaucrats were the worst part of your heritage. Qing a shit.

Come capitalism with us
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>>151336557
i dont get it
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To be honest I'm ready for the world where China is the world's biggest Christian nation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html
>China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years
>The number of Christians in Communist China is growing so steadily that it by 2030 it could have more churchgoers than America
>It is said to be China's biggest church and on Easter Sunday thousands of worshippers will flock to this Asian mega-temple to pledge their allegiance – not to the Communist Party, but to the Cross.
>The 5,000-capacity Liushi church, which boasts more than twice as many seats as Westminster Abbey and a 206ft crucifix that can be seen for miles around, opened last year with one theologian declaring it a "miracle that such a small town was able to build such a grand church".
>The £8 million building is also one of the most visible symbols of Communist China's breakneck conversion as it evolves into one of the largest Christian congregations on earth.
>"It is a wonderful thing to be a follower of Jesus Christ. It gives us great confidence," beamed Jin Hongxin, a 40-year-old visitor who was admiring the golden cross above Liushi's altar in the lead up to Holy Week.
>China's Protestant community, which had just one million members in 1949, has already overtaken those of countries more commonly associated with an evangelical boom. In 2010 there were more than 58 million Protestants in China compared to 40 million in Brazil
>Prof Yang, a leading expert on religion in China, believes that number will swell to around 160 million by 2025. That would likely put China ahead even of the United States, which had around 159 million Protestants in 2010 but whose congregations are in decline.
By 2030, China's total Christian population, including Catholics, would exceed 247 million... ....largest Christian congregation in the world, he predicted.
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>>151336751
Koreans are afraid of fans
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>>151336406
One of them was Chinese
The other two were blond germans or something that spoke English.
They seemed impressed when I could actually talk with them and already knew about the Bibble.

>>151336670
>Bureaucrats were the worst part of your heritage
Like hell though. We had meritocracy literally almost 1000 years before you guys. Qing ruined the military, specifically, by banning guns.
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Reminder Asians have best chicks. Chinks?
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>>151336751
Korea is afraid of fans and believe they can kill you if you sleep while a fan is running.
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>>151336795
>Like hell though. We had meritocracy literally almost 1000 years before you guys.
You had a bureaucracy based on 2000 year old merits. Get with the fucking times, Mandarins.
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>>151336773
Are you ready for the Chinese crusade against the United Islamic European Emirates?
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>>151336852
There's no such thing as male Asians. We're all girls~

>>151336773
>"It is a wonderful thing to be a follower of Jesus Christ. It gives us great confidence," beamed Jin Hongxin, a 40-year-old visitor who was admiring the golden cross above Liushi's altar in the lead up to Holy Week.
Fucking disgusting just go to fucking America or something

>>151336969
Mandarins are shits though. The word literally comes from Man-da-ren, referring to manchus.
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>>151336852
Don't Chinkgirls have a more rounded face most of the time? I kinda like that for some reason.
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>>151337026
>Are you ready for the Chinese crusade against the United Islamic European Emirates?
I dunno. The last few times it didn't work out so well.
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>>151337081
You're thinking of Mongols.
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is EU Rome worth playing if I use Reign of the Ancients?
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>>151336852
sure I guess in personality but do you really want mixed race babies?
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>>151336969
>You had a bureaucracy based on 2000 year old merits. Get with the fucking times, Mandarins.
No, the Chinese actually developed the modern "do well at school and improve your station in life" school system. IIRC the emprah wanted bureaucracy that was loyal to him and to the state instead of to their own dynasties or allegiances so he made up his administration of the most capable rather than the most connected.

Or at least that's how it was supposed to go. Korea was much more anime-esque society where test scores determine your position in life and everyone, including nobility (that were defined as people that did well at tests) had to take those tests.
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>>151337081
Chinese girls look like shit 70% of the time. Euro girls look better on average, we just have better top-tiers.

>>151337141
>implying Mongols aren't Chinese
Everyone is Chinese :^)
except west africans
fuck them
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>>151337141
CHINKED mongols then.
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>>151336969
>Western culture isnt based on 10 commandments
Mate pls.
>>151337081
Luxury Asians do.
More luxurious the model - more rounded the face.
>>151337141
>Mongols
http://www.nature.com/news/genghis-khan-s-genetic-legacy-has-competition-1.16767
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>>151337081
>I kinda like that for some reason.
It's more neotenous. East Asians in general have more neotenous facial features, a product of sexual selection towards youth in non-African populations. But they vary between each other a lot. Tons of ethnicities within that blanket.

>>151337141
You all look the same to us for the most part. Sorry.

>>151337143
>>151337143
It's thoroughly ok but kind of a bitch to get working. I'd just wait for a proper game in that time period.
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>>151337306
>You all look the same to us for the most part. Sorry.
I'm not asian, I just watch a lot of porn.
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>>151337305
>>151337306
go outside you fuckin nerds nobody gives a fuckin shit about fuckin china -_-
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>>151337213
>No, the Chinese actually developed the modern "do well at school and improve your station in life" school system.
And it was outdated as fuck when faces with modern realities outside of the broad strokes.

>memorizing Confucian philosophy to run a modern empire
pls. Don't see us teaching fucking Plato to economists.

>>151337239
>Chinese girls look like shit 70% of the time. Euro girls look better on average, we just have better top-tiers.
This anon knows whats up
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>>151337389
Is this the equivalent of "I know Japanese culture from watching anime"?
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>>151336852
>implying any chink women ever could compare to this nordic perfection, ever
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>>151337305
>>Western culture isnt based on 10 commandments
10 commandments are so broad you could say the same about any culture, including hunter gatherers in Indonesia that have never heard of Moses.
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>>151337529
>tfw no qt Norwegian gf
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>>151337529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzs3DVAQ_4w
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Am I really going to have to start a filter
I really don't want to do something like that.

>And it was outdated as fuck when faces with modern realities outside of the broad strokes.
This was mostly Qing bullshit though. Even the Ming added economics and practical tests besides morality.

>>151337529
Faceshape is fucked. Torso looks too heavyset.
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talex
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lmao steamgroup btfo
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>>151337529
>purely aryan
Yeah she looks Persian, you're right.
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>>151337501
No, I've just seen a lot of east asian facial structure s, often.
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>>151337661
Gah. >>151337473

>>151337649
Not going to watch it but I'm guessing that's the Korean girl.
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>>151337661
>Faceshape is fucked. Torso looks too heavyset.
Caucasians usually like their women thicker. Middle of the road between chinks and sub-saharan Africans on the neoteny scale.

I like saying neoteny.
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>>151337529
>>151337646
>they think white girls can compete with Jewish girls
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>>151337529
>not picking South Slavic women
Do you even Trump

Old Clinton is still an attractive man. No homo.
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>>151337958
>the only ugly Trump kid is the only kid who isn't half Slav
Really fires my neurons
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>>151337918
>thicker
I'm sure there's legit reasoning but I am so unbelievably tired of THICC.
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>>151337707
Persians were a lot lighter back in the day actually.

I'm saying that's a quality Achaemenid chick right there.
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why the fuck do you fat nerds even care about this fuckin -_- just play some fuckin games -_-

fuckin machu opium lmao wtf is that shit speak english you fuckin nerds what the fucks a fucking qing o_O
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>>151338068
>implying Opium isn't English
>implying -_- is English
>implying Yung is English
Mhmm hmm hmm!
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What fucking game and what mod do I play to play as Kazakhstan?
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>>151337529
And here's the nordic goddess in a lewd pose.
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>>151337927
Ashkenazim are just super-whites.

>>151337958
Need to see a more recent picture. Last couple of months Bill's looked like warmed over death. Seriously think he might have AIDs.
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>>151337707
>>151337701
>>151337734
>>151337918
>>151337812
>>151337927
>>151337958
>>151338016
>>151338024
>>151338060
lmao wtf u talkin bout nerds

>>151338068
deadass my nigger

>>151338193
you mad nerd?
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>beauty contests
Well since Dota 2 is up greeting from Balkans.
You rike?
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>>151338215
you realize she's BLACKED right
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>there are people in this thread who would racemix with fucking chinks instead of based turks
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>>151338314
Nonsense. I've checked her instagram and the guy she's kissing is also super nordic.

Your jewish lies won't work here, kike.
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>>151338225
>Ashkenazim are just super-whites
Heh, I'm pretty sure I got some Ashnazi ancestors and I have no doubt people wouldn't consider me to be white.
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>>151338402
You Sephardic or something?
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>>151338314
She's never dated a non-Norwegian
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>>151338276
>>151338314
>>151338317
>>151338395
>>151338402
>>151338460
go outside instead of masturbating on the internet fatass nerds
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>>151338317
troach
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>>151338213
wow wa wee wa

>>151338402
According to /pol/ the only white people on Earth are a small family of 5 from a suburb near Leipzig.
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>>151338317
turks are germanic
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>>151338514
this and based
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>>151338276
Isn't that Andrej Pejic? I mean, I don't judge, whatever floats your boat but this is who is the best girl and why is it Emilie Nereng contest.
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>>151338509
>wow wa wee wa
what did he mean by this
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>>151338493
deadass my nigger

>>151338509
>>151338505
>>151338514
>>151338587
fuck off fattass nerds nobody wants to talk about this boring shit -_-
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>>151338317
Turks suck. Fuck off Mehmed
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>>151338509
>2+ children
Those are probably Turks.
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>>151338460
I never looked into this since all my family member are obviously just German Christians, most from Silesia.

>>151338509
I live in Halle ironically, what family would that be?
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>>151338637
deadass my nigger

>>151338654
you mad nerd

>>151338751
what the fuck are you talking about what the fucks silesia that a fuckin bitch or something
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>>151338604
It sure is. You got me there.
>>151338751
Oh youre Germanic.
Nah, Sephardic fellas are Spanish Jews that emigrated to Ottoman Empire.
I assumed you live on Balkans or something .
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>>151338213
lads please
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>>151338606
Under 18 detected.
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>>151331609
>tfw bf2 is ded
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>>151339118
you mad nerd

>>151338858
deadass my nigger
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>>151338213
You can play as Kazakhs in Ck2, they're shitty nomadic tribe.

You can (maybe? I don't remember Central Asia all that well) play as Kazakhs in EU4. If not just google where they lived in 1444 and play as the Horde that includes them, it should have Kazakh culture.

One of the Central Asia states in Victoria 2 should have Kazakh POPs, find out which and... PLAY IT.

You're shit out of luck in HoI, though. Kazakhstan was just USSR at the time.
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>>151338889
Yeah I know what Sephardic Jews are. I think I have more of a North Atlantid kind of thing going on. Anyways, it doesn't bother me really.
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How come Vicky 2 Persia has Armenians as accepted.
They didnt Persecute them?
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Playing as Irish tribal in CK2 and I can't seem to take concubines

I heard it's tied to your religion, but literally every other Irish count/duke have concubines and they're the same religion as I am, so I don't understand
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>>151339118
lmao this fuckin nerd thinks he can beat us with this shit this some kinda fuckin meme O_o

>>151339193
deadass my nigger
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>>151339256
It shouldnt. Although you should figure it out because proper Jews dig it.
You might even find a use for it one day.
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>tfw you will never be a knight dueling proudly against the evil Ritters for your fair maiden's hand and a mere chance at her affection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4UQcN_vJbs
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i really really want to die
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>>151339417
Absolutely, I was actually planning on using it against Antifa and so on.
>actually, I'm Jewish.
>o-oh. sorry.
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>>151339532
You can't die, you haven't saved the world yet.
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>>151339532
kys

>>151339382
deadass my nigger
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>>151339581
>>actually, I'm Jewish.
>>o-oh. sorry.
Nah, antifa hates jews more than right wingers do these days. They keep trying to blame Israel for all the problems in the middle east and they keep trying to pass resolutions to introduce sanctions for Israel and shit.

If you told them you're jewish they'd probably accuse you of murdering Palestinian babies or something like that. Also the liberals have pretty squarely decided for Muslims above everyone else except maybe nig nogs and Muslims hate you lot.
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>>151339797
>They keep trying to blame Israel for all the problems in the middle east
Why would they do such a thing?
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>>151339797
this

you have to tell them your muslim or black
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>>151339949
Because Muslims stopped evolving around 1100 AD?
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>>151339949
Because Isrealis are assholes living around rabid arabs.

Smart people would give them Sardinia or something.
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>>151340086
Rabbis still suck blood from babys' penises.
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>>151339797
Yeah? I know some people that have thrown this around and got them to figuratively lick their boots. Maybe I should pretend to be a Muslim then?
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is real lives 2010 still accepted here

i saw some dude playing it here half a year ago
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>>151340204
Why not both?
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>>151340272
no, it never was
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>>151340272
Yeah, go ahead
Enjoy dying as a mediocre Chinese factory worker

>>151340368
t.
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>>151340272
I think i remember that. Was he the South African negro that became a magic fortune telling negro in his dying days?
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>>151340282
Actually that is perfect, you can blow yourself up and be the good guy.
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>>151340445
Yep thats the exact one. I actually found out about the game from it.
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>>151340426
Nice OC. Make more.
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:^)
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>>151340426
lel that was the proto wrong thread autist

it took the liquor meme which came a month later to take him to his full potential
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>>151340801
Fug is this
>shattered NW
>shattered Asia
>Siberia with a billion pieces
???
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>>151340838
what did the wrong thread autist have to do with the liquor meme
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>>151341054
idk but ever since it was made he got 10x worse and sperged out way more

maybe hes r&i
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>>151341251
all of the /gsg/ old guard got pissy over the liquor meme
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Liquor
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memes
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talex
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Daily reminder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqoOrUWODsQ
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>>151342232
t. memeth
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To the guy who posted the an cap ball memes last night, please come post what uou have here >>>/pol/84899195, I'm trying to build a collection.
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>>151340932
>he's so dumb that he doesn't recognize it's simply Liquoria's provinces.bmp barely colored by a lazy autist before being abandoned
WEW
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>>151342232
why haven't we raided meneth's youtube channel yet
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>>151342157
Did he lose some fingers or something?
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>>151342437
>>151342514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bql0cpVHbA&list=FLPNrJwZr3eOmBNuMqWT8O8A&index=15
What the fuck I hate Memeth now!
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>>151342514
>chimping out
That was Radical Yugoslavia's job.
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>>151342232
Meneth is based
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>>151342687
we raided meneth's reddit account before rad yugo even existed
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>>151342661
>Why do people laugh at creationists?
epic
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>>151342687
only redditors dont like raids because it usually targets them
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>>151342661
>>151342870
>tips fedora
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Hey, /gsg/, I'm playing a D&D game of Ptolus and I had a question about some tech stuff that you guys would be more knowledgeable about than /pfg/, I think. So, in Ptolus, they have Steam-powered Keelboats. I was curious if this would be a high enough level of steam-power technology to allow my character to develop a steam-powered warship, you think?

As an interesting note, I essentially formed a private navy to control the trade in the Ptolus Bay (Akin to the Baltic in size) and may soon start working on a private militia to fight the bandit and gang problems the guards aren't. I find it hilarious that my Paladin is essentially building a group of Blackshirts.
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>>151343085
treddit
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>>151343085
t. meneth
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>>151343085
Everyone can make mistake, but why did you keep these Thunderf00t's videos in your playlist? Again, if you just forget to remove them and you was just edgy back at the time, it's fine everyone can make mistake, but keeping them in it will probably give you trouble in a close future. I'm legit worry about you, dude...
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>>151343178
>I was curious if this would be a high enough level of steam-power technology to allow my character to develop a steam-powered warship, you think?
I just got brain aneurysm.
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>>151343085
dont you have some black dildos to test meneth
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>>151343304
Religion is cancer, i am much too enlightened by my own inteligence for such nonsense.

>>151343568
Yes! I have been addicted to BBC dildos ever since my ex-GF used one on me. It's truly a liberating experience.
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>>151343908
>big
>beady
>eyes
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>>151343908
rare mosley
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>>151343908
Someone shop this Mosley in that kitchen of that photo replacing that guy and post in that general
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>>151343924
treddit
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>>151344083
Yes but in the general not in the photo because it's not old.
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ugh
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>>151343908
Mosley looks like he has Klinefelter syndrome.
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did everyone get banned or something
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Finally these Muslim fucks will get BTFO

This should be the last crusade before the game ends.
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>>151345086
Americans are going to sleep
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>>151344616
I didn't know what that was.


How did you know what that was?
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>>151345476
convert it to EU4
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And just like that its over


Arabia was a Christian kingdom that I made and gave to one of my sons
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What was his ethnicity?
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>[V2] - Make Liquor Great Again for HPM 0.3.5.5 by Liquorlad*°
>This minimod reverts liquor production, consumption, and price values back to vanilla.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42kc4rjg24rtiv/makeliquorgreatagain.rar?dl=0

>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5°
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2°
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*°
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I may sperg out if you download this
° Talex and his Grandi Youth may harass you if you download this

Remember that the R&I reports all posts made by or about unHPM and is prone to delete entire discussions on it because he's a petty cunt, so if you want to report bugs or suggest something, contact the mod maker at Steam.
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>>151345759
How's the christian kingdom you made in india?
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>>151345086
Conversation died down so everyone is off fapping or something. It's pretty natural part of human interaction.
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>>151345759
Meant to replay to >>151345476
>>151345636
Will do senpai, and Ill show you the overworld map in a bit.

>>151345759
Made all the land I got from Egypt into independent christian duchies.
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>>151345885
Turkish
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>>151345598
>How did you know what that was?
Since I've grown boobs I've been curious about intersex conditions and Klinefelter body is really specific one so it's easy to remember.
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Laddos, studying for a final on Buddhism tomorrow. It's all sensical until the Japanese get a hold of it. Why are the Japanese so fucking weird about everything.
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>>151346189
>Since I've grown boobs
lad........
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>>151346189
>Since I've grown boobs
iktf
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>>151346356
Well it wasn't recently that that happened, it's been some years. Thankfully I didn't get periods or anything like that.
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>>151346189
MAYAKA IS THAT YOU
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>>151345885
neolithic roucadour
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>>151345985
Saint Tomas cant complain. No one has declared war on it yet and the king has not declared war on anyone either. but the vassals are getting ambitions and declaring holy war. this one might win this time.

My only problem was that I did not connect it but I only had 40 years left and I wanted to see it in action.
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>>151345885
>The Franks (Latin: Franci or gens Francorum) are historically first known as a group of Germanic tribes that inhabited the land between the Lower and Middle Rhine in the 3rd century AD, and second as the people of Gaul who merged with the Gallo-Roman populations during succeeding centuries, passing on their name to modern-day France and becoming part of the heritage of the modern French people. Some Franks raided Roman territory. In later times, Franks became the military rulers of the northern part of Roman Gaul. With the coronation of their ruler Charlemagne as Imperator Romanorum by Pope Leo III in 800 AD, he and his successors were recognised as legitimate successors to the emperors of the Western Roman Empire.

>The Salian Franks lived on Roman-held soil between the Rhine, Scheldt, Meuse, and Somme rivers in what is now Northern France, Belgium and the southern Netherlands. The kingdom was acknowledged by the Romans after 357 AD. Following the collapse of Rome in the West, the Frankish tribes were united under the Merovingians, who succeeded in conquering most of Gaul in the 6th century, which greatly increased their power. The Merovingian dynasty, descendants of the Salians, founded one of the Germanic monarchies that would absorb large parts of the Western Roman Empire. The Frankish state consolidated its hold over the majority of western Europe by the end of the 8th century, developing into the Carolingian Empire. This empire would gradually evolve into the state of France and the Holy Roman Empire.

>In the Middle Ages, the term Frank was used in the east as a synonym for western European, as the Franks were then rulers of most of Western Europe. The Franks in the east kept their Germanic language and became part of the Germans, Dutch, Flemings and Luxembourgers. The Franconian languages, which are called Frankisch in Dutch or Fränkisch in German, originated at least partly in the Old Frankish language of the Franks.
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>>151346189
>>151346494
t. emily
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>>151346493
We can be boob brothers. I'll let you squeeze my hairy tit if you let me squeeze yours.
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>>151346189
>>151346493
>>151346494
r u real grills
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>>151346857
I intent to kill myself before that.
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Religions map.

Sunni got BTFO so hard, Yazadi became mainstream and sunni became a heresy. Shia is/was still stronk.

Somehow my orthodox family member became elected king of aquatine. My family lost the election in scotland and where usurped (peacully?) in norway and Byzantium. Poland is under my family control but are heretics. Mongols are heretics as well

First jewish aquatine now orthodox aquatine most meme game I have ever played.
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>>151346903
I'm just fat
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>>151340092
Wasn't there alternative potential locations for a Jewish state back before the Balfour Declaration?

I seem to recall the Germans trying to use Madagascar (just dump all of the Jews there), some people trying to push for Argentina (since the southern parts were mostly uninhabited, unlike the Middle East), and a few other places.

Or were those just wishful thinking?
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I'm trying to balance what playthroughs I want to do in EU3 and which ones in Victoria 2

tougher than I thought
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>>151339214
Pretty sure all of the Kazakh lands in Victoria 2 belong to Russia. Uzbek, Tajik, and Kyrgyk have nations though.
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>>151348247
Those were options but we dumped them in Middle East instead.

I would dump them on Sardinia.
1. Italy lost the war
2. Close to Europe yet isolated by sea
3. Decent size
4. There were maybe 200k people living on Sardinia tops
5. No neighbors to argue with (Italians would dare to protest ever)
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>>151348730
>Literally holiest place in the entire universe for muslims, jews and christians
>dumped
Yeah, they sure got a bad deal. And they've been so nice to their neighbours foo, it doesn't make sense why anyone would dislike them.
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>>151349405
>all their neighbors simultaneously declared war on them at once
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>>151349702
>they declared a country where a country already was
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>>151349769
The UK?
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>>151349702
>remove a she-wolf from a pen
>leave her pups in and give it to dog you put there instead
>other wolves will tolerate your shit
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>>151349769
this could have happened if the Palestinians didn't declare
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>>151349769
>>151350113
>UN divides land equally
>muslims sperg out
>muslims get BTFO
>WAHHH THEY INVADED US :^(
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>>151350114
>this could have happened

>>151349939
Close, a protectorate under it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
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>>151275875
I always change the function main.py that checks the dlc's.
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I did a little experiment with 0 spending on administration, education, or social since day 1 and this is how it turned out

look at my pops
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>>151350394
That was part of the UK.
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>>151350257
>dividing land that wasnt Isreali for thousand years
>Arab land

No im not pro-Palestinian but what the fuck did they think would happen.
We arent talking about Baltic states or Czechoslovakia...
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>>151350257
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>>151350705
holy shit post the pop screen

Did you actually control the nation at all in any way, or did you just set everything to 0 and let it go? I'm also a fan of the epic grob sweden and the sardinia meme.
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>>151350705
That tiny independent Piedmont is incredibly cute, it's like a tiny Switzerland!
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>>151350257
>UN divides a country, that already exists, and does nothing when the country that was only supposed to have half of the land takes over the other one entirely
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>>151351304
>>UN divides a country, that already exists,
But the UN never divided the UK
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I'm glad Israel blobbed because the UN borders we're just disgusting. Even the meme West Bank + Gaza Palestine looks better.
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>>151351414
Mandatoey Palestine was a protectorate of the UK, not a part of the UK. Only England, Scofland, Wales and Northern Ireland were part of the UK.
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>>151351559
>Falklands and Gibraltar aren't part of the UK
>>
not pictured:
- Danube Bulgaria Turks getting fuckin DEPORTED back to their Volga homeland clays with the rest of the Chuvash Tatars and other Volga Turkish savages (light teal spot where a little piece of Russia used to be)
- Hungary Magyar Turks getting fuckin DEPORTED back to their Ural homeland clays with the rest of the Khanty Mansi and other Ugric savages (dark teal spot where a fucking ton of Russia used to be)
- Anatolia Ottomeme Turks getting fuckin DEPORTED back to their Central-Asia Oghuz homeland clays with the rest of the Turcoman and other Seljuk savages (brown spot mostly an extension of Turkmenistan)

if Stalin was allowed to move people around for arbitrary reasons, so am I

work in progress. someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here, because I know I probably fucked something up hard

kinda feeling bad about putting Occitania on there, feel like maybe that was memeing too hard, let me know

haven't really touched Africa much yet, still feel like I need to read up more on it before I decide how to approach it. I have decided though that the Eurocolonial cuck borders have to go
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>>151350705
>>151350948

oh yeah one more important thing I triggered huge revolts pretty much always
probably should have mentioned that first

I interfered a little bit, I didn't try to lead it to success. If someone wanted to beat me up I'd let them but first throw everything I have at them in a stupid manner, just drawing the arrow not giving a fuck

there used to be less germans in austria before the genocide. I was at like 2 million in 1925 and then one genocide plus some more revolt crushing got me to a million
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>>151351304
>arabs would rather live in a muslim shithole instead of my secular country
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>>151351669
They're protectorates.
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>>151351669
>wanting colonies to be part of the UK

So you'd want niggers from Nigeria to be UK citizens?
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>>151351691
>Portuguese Galicia
It is perfect
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>>151351559
AKA a colony and british territory
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>>151351785
Well of course. They can't oppress women, minorities, non-Muslims and LGBT in secular countries.
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>>151351785
Almost as dumb as people who want trump as president.
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>>151351669
They're literally not, do you understand how anything works? If Israel claimed Puerto Rico today would you say they were taking land from Americans or Puerto Ricans?
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>>151352142
LE DRUMPF XDD
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>>151351976
was it bad of me to include the Asturias clays?
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>>151352193
Americans, of course. The issue isn't that Palestine wasn't British owned its just that it wasn't British in character. Puerto Rico is US owned so they'd be taking it from the US.
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>>151352095
*tips literal faggptry*
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>>151352280
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>>151352293
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>>151352142
ikr we cant have all that toxic racism ugh
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>>151352095
>They can't oppress LGBT
You're saying that like it's a good thing?
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>>151352326
So Puerto Rico is American? What about Samoa?
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>>151352326
It's British in character by modern standards tho
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>>151352142
>DRUMPF
>LE DRUNPF
>IS DRUNPF FUNNY YET
>HEY MAYBE DRUMPF WILL BECOME FUNNY IF I REPEAT IT ENOUGH
>DRUMPF
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>>151352425
The ironic thing about poltards is that they act exactly like SJWs
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>>151352142
>LEEE DRUMPF XD JOHN OLIVER LE SO FAHNEEY
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>>151352518
>>151352280
you're the only one saying it right now though
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>>151352489
>Is American Samoa American?
Makes you think..
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>>151352489
>So Puerto Rico is American?
Duh

>Samoa
yes. Same thing, it's not American culturally but it is owned by the US.

>>151352501
What modern standards? The "anyone that's born in x is automatically part of x" bullshit? That still wouldn't work for protectorates as it's not core part of x but it is owned by x.
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>>151352563
>>151352518
Are you having an aneurysm or are you trying to prove my point?
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>>151352489
>is american samoa america
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>>151352621
>>151352670
Right, but my point is if Israel took Puerto Rico and then the Puerto Ricans declared war it wouldn't make sense to say "that land was never puerto Rican".
>>
So what is my goal as France in EU4? Me and Aragon cucked england out of Ireland and france, and burgundy immediately fell apart so my only enemies are the UK and the HRE. Do I focus on colonial stuff for now or should I begin phase 1 of remove habsburg?
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>>151352813
Maybe but Palestine was very Christian long before it ever became Muslim and it was Jewish long before it became Christian.

The Muslim claim is through conquest so if they can't keep it or retake it then they don't have a claim on the land at all.
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>>151352813
The Puerto Ricans are a secular people and probably wouldn't give a damn if they had to live with Jews.
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>>151352142
LOL SO TRUE XDD
Who /Bernie Sanders/ here?
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>>151353083
>not supporting our Lady Hillary Clinton

Come on, it's [CURRENT YEAR]. What are you, a misogynist?
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>>151353083

smash capitalism XDDDD
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:^)
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>how to trigger /pol/tards that are dumb enough to support populists
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>>151353083
yes comrade *tips ushanka* have some reddit gold

le Viva La Revolution
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>>151353201
WTF now im a #Shill4hill
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>>151353285
populists > globalists
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>>151353279
>reorganized
that's a dumb name for a country
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>>151353395
populists are the worst kind of politicians anyone can elect
literally anyone that isn't politically illiterate knows that
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>>151353285
The great national socialist awakening will never come so we may as well align ourselves with a new york capitalist with lots of money who says racist things in a manner in which he can weasel his way out of it if the media decide to question him over it, which they keep doing because they think it's making him more unpopular but it's actually constructing a popular narrative of him as a person who is constantly attacked for semi-acceptable views..
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>>151353427
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>>151353630
based "in what game" poster
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>>151353682
>mexican opposition
what's that?
>what's your nationality
>i'm a mexican oppositionist
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>>151353761
Lots of organisations, attempting to assert complete control over a country have had names like that.
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>>151353537
It's not the populists that have imported tens of millions of Muslims into Europe thus changing the European societies for ever and bringing the continent to a brink of a fucking religious war in the 21st century, rather it was the other ones .
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>>151353279
>>151353682
why does every country in goy4 have meme names
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>>151353860
wew
textbook dumbfuck with tinfoil conspiracy that trump appeals to
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>>151353916
Gotta appeal to the Reddit crowd me lad
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>>151353980
>what are muslim immigrants
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>>151353916
Well they did draw the line at recreating Byzantine Empire in 20th century ideological conflict. Instead, to fulfil their LOL SO RANDOM quota they named fascist Australia as "Empire of the Platypus".
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>>151353630
I'm happy someone is falseflagging as in what game poster so when he seriously posts no one will take him seriously, really got tired of that faggot
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>>151354183
You know you fucks are no better than SJWs trying to convince someone the patriarchy or fart rape is real right?
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>>151354120
>>151353916
They're beyond memes, lads. Even Caleb couldn't bring this shit up. A meme name would be "nazi state of Bavaria", HoI4 was literally shipped with "Empire of the platypus" as a genuine country name.
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>>151354265
Fart rape isn't real. Muslim rape is.
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>>151354265
>the cologne rapes aren't real
>the swedish rape demographics aren't real
>the rotherham sex gangs aren't real
>the paris and nice attacks weren't real
>nothing i personally think doesn't suit my agenda is real
This site is for 18+, lad.
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>>151354265
>muslim crime rates, muslim mass rapes, muslim general crimes (including, but not limited to, hitting and knocking over old people, spitting on women, hitting women and raping little boys on pool) are all imaginary because I say so

I mean, if anything, you're the one that's SJW reality isn't real sort of type. If you're not trolling consider suicide.
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>>151354265
>comparing real life rape to SJW fart rape
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>>151354397
>>the cologne rapes aren't real
>>the swedish rape demographics aren't real
>>the rotherham sex gangs aren't real
>>the paris and nice attacks weren't real
They actually aren't real though.
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>>151354265
>waah i can't accept these things happened in socially liberal countries, they can't really have happened!
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>>151353916
>meme names
It gets better senpai
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>>151354345
You are just SJWs on the other side of the spectrum. As dumb and crazy looking for normal people as SJWs.

>>151354397
>>151354432

>men in average get more money than women
>therefore patriarchy
You are still using the same shit as SJW. You try to draw links that don't exist to push some conspiracy shit and agenda.

You are just opposite SJWs.
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>>151354432
>>151354536
they're literally not real though

why are you buying into this meme propaganda?
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>>151354581
>comparing real life mass raping to SJW fart rape and the debunked gender wage gap
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>>151354682
>>151354682
>>151354682
>>151354682
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Muslims are Germanic
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>>151354692
Fart rape is comparable to the other conspiracy shit like "Importing muslims".

What you are doing is that SJW's do when a guy compliments a girl and she screams "rape".
It's called trying to blow things out of proportion my SJW friend;
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>>151354881
When did i say i believed in the government importing muslims? What if i just believe that accepting refugees is misguided since they cause so much crime?
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>>151355013
I didn't say you, I was talking originally with someone else that said that. Like not all SJWs believe in fart rape.

Not that it matters for you SJW types, you jump in to defend your religion any time.
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>>151355215
le different side of the same coin meme can literally be applied to any opposing side in existence. All that matters is which one is closest to reality and the SJW's definitely aren't.
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Why does the Treaty of Petropolis decision literally need 2 million pounds?
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What are slaves good for in Vic2?
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>>151354881
>>151355215
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>>151355651
Slowing down pop promotion and decreasing tax revenue.
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>>151355654
Are you going to call me "misogynistic" too SJW?

It's the same shit SJWs do. They try to label people who don't agree with their crazy cult.
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>>151355654
fuck off, argue about this shit on reddit or /pol/
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>>151356189
>>151356039
for (You)
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>>151354224
what, did they think nobody wanted to play fascist australia?
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>>151358039
presumably they did it to mock actual australian nazis and other anglo nazis that probably would want to play a fascist australia
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Not sure how this happened
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>>151358983
>Rimskaya Imperiya
stop this
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heh you kids still care about pops...
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>>151340801
gib template pl0x
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>>151353285
>supporting anyone but yourself.
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>>151353916
But Japan named their Chinese puppet government the Japanese equivalent 'Reorganized Nationalist China'.
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>>151354581
>opposite SJWs

Lel
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is this some kinda meme
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