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Roman edition

Previous: >>151170294

http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/jccfoh/
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160811.php#nav

Summer event on 8/11

Summer gacha part 1:
Scat welfare Assassin 4*
Tamamo no Mae Lancer 5*
Anne Mary Archer 4*
Mordred Rider 4*
Kiyohime Lancer 4*
Everyone is limited.

Singles are 3 quartz now, and Ten is 30. Forever.

Grail Ascension added, Max level is 100
To reach level 100:
5 grails for 5*
7 grails for 4*
9 grails for 3*
10 grails for 2*
10 grails for 1*

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones, & androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Translations Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/URc62gex

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info

>Camelot Spoilers
http://pastebin.com/bxy64aiH

>Max Servant stats
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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Anybody going to Comiket?
I would gladly pay someone to get me three keychains from this.
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>>151181287
Late as all FUCK on this, but wasn't Nrvnqsr stated to be in the First Crusade? Richard and Saladin were the Third Crusade.

Or did that bit of Strange Fake just mean that was the first Crusade that Dead Apostles interfered in, and I misunderstood it?
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Alters
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>FP gacha
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Xth for Shadow of Mordor is a fun game.
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I want to lick Shuten's armpits!
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Nobu a CUTE.
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9th for Tamamo
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Why is it that when a guy is hiding something, you guys instantly think he's the main villain in disguise?
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MEDB THREAD
MEDBBROS UNITE!!!
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Nito-chan!
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L A W F U L G O O D
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>>151199023
Alters, you say?
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>>151199121

it's called "seeing it happen a million times"
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>blowing 100+ ap on Fuyuki-D for bones
How did I ever tolerate this shit during the dango event?
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I love you Gilgamesh!
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>>151198882
So does Ozzy ever mention Solomon? They were like brothers, so I'd hope so.
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Doctor lewd
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>>151198975
>Sanzang doujin
Oh boy
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>>151199362
>Solomon
It was Noah. And yes, he mentions him.
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>>151199407
C-CHICHIUE

What does it say?
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What is the best Master outfit for Spartacus?
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LIZ THREAD
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>>151198734
>>151198309

And thou must have always a Silver Ring on the middle finger of the left hand held against thy face, as they do yet before AMAYMON.

From the lesser key of Solomon
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I love my waifu.
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>>151198975
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>FSG as Solomon's waifu
>BP Arondight Overload right in Solomon's face
Lancelot can handle Solomon by himself.
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>>151199539
Burning him and using a better Servant.
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>>151199540
God bless you, lizfag.
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>>151198975
nipples
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>>151199082
>>151199243
Solomon apparently reflects people. When summoned as a Saber, he reflected the figure of the ideal Saber for a Holy Grail War, and became a Saberface. The Saber Alter we meet in the Fuyuki singularity is the left-over fragments of the Arturia persona mixed with the grail mud.

Saber Solomon wished to be free of the Saberface curse, and was incarnated into the form of Roman as a regular human.
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Which Servant is the King of Homos?
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>>151199476
Wasn't it Moses?
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>>151199718
(You)
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>>151199362
You're thinking of Moses. Solomon came way, WAY later.
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>>151199362
Anon pls
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>>151199532
tabasco in water gun
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>data always finishes the day an FGO event starts
How the fuck does this keep happening.
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>>151199718
Leonidas
Sparta was a funny place
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>>151199718
Gilgamesh
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I love my precious snakefu.
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Mata Hari thread
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asking for Richard I the Lionheart art.
Please give the best EXCALIBUR user, with the theater prop weapon.
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>>151199476
>>151199362
>>151199812

Guys I think he's talking about Jesus.
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Reminder that you cannot defeat Solomon without servants that symbolise hope for humanity.
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Anyone have a good friend support strategy to use against the final Ozzy fight in Camelot? That's the one with three rounds of Sphinxes + Ozzy until the final around of Nitocris + Ozzy. All I personally have are welfares and silvers.
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>>151198679
Short stories like this are fun to read. I hope the speculation that Solomon isn't the real, final villain turns out to be correct in the end.
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>>151200010
Jesus? Nah, he must mean Elijah.
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>>151199718
>>151200071
> not using a grail on Angra Mainyu to get that sexy black grail
wew lad
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>>151200071
>Angry Manjew
If anything, that guy is proof humanity is inherently evil and without hope.
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>>151200192
The hobbit?
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>>151199979
What a nice lady
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>>151200071
Is your lvl 90 Bedi in your support list?
Can I add you?
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do you guys think they'll ever do another round of 3 new mystic codes at once?
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>>151199190
This picture has blessed me with a boner. Thank you, anon.
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>>151200132
One Rider and one Assassin in the front and another Assassin in the backrow. Fill the blanks with whatever you want.
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>>151200418
I think they area already struggling with skill combinations
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Will there be lolis in Babylon?
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>>151200071
okay i can understand Tesla, Drake and Manjew.
But what do Bedi, Scat anad MHX have to do with hope for humanity.
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>>151199979
She should be the one getting a swimsuit version instead of Tamamo
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>>151200237
Even as he watched from the mountain side, he still found beauty in the world.
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>>151200580
Rin and Sakura will ascend into their Zero forms like Waver just for the sake of having lolis
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>>151200071
Angra Mainyu is a Man type servant, nice try but I hope you're ready to eat some golden showers
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>>151200580
Of course. Tiamat is a loil-dragon shapeshifter
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>20 day gacha
Geez, a least that gives the people who are rolling plenty of time to gather quartz and let people who are hoarding get more for who they like huh?

Still thats a long time, especially since people think there is going to be a part 2.
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>>151200642
I'm pretty sure MHX being star attribute is just a joke on her being from the stars
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>>151200237
Read HA. What you say is not true at all.
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>>151200642
MHX is literally the famed return of King Arthur
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>>151200524
True, I don't even use my FZ code.

I'm guessing summer bathing suit will have
>arts up
>AOE charm
>invul pierce
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>>151198975
That Sakura doujin is new right?
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>>151200071
Leave Solomon to me.
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>>151200706
> Sakura and Rin will be denied their badass Hollow Ataraxia forms
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>>151200642
>Bedi, Scat

Symbols of human perseverance and skill, with the god slaying and transcendence and
>1500 years

>MHX
memes
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>>151200374
Sure
885,656,886
Tell me your name so I know which one to accept.
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>>151201002
I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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>>151200252
The cannibal.
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>>151201187
Should I put Arthuria or NP5 Lancelot as my support saber?
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>>151200642
MHX whole existence is a joke. Don't take her seriously.
Bedi might have something to do with Camelot order, but we should wait for translations on that.
Scat is bullshit, but since everything about her is more or less taken out of nowhere, I suppose they didn't thought too hard about it.
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>>151200642
fgo Bedi is a normal human who wandered for centuries to complete his duty and ended up doing so by defeating his monstrously powerful allies

X is for the laughs

Scat I have no idea
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>>151201365
Didn't mean to quote.
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>>151201218
MHX saved the world from aliens in the future, in FGO's story

Scat did fuckall though
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>>151201223
Thanks, I'm a blue "P"
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>>151201375
Shishou set the gold standard for physiological perfection. That's very important.
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>>151199705
>Holmes: ! So you were the critical reference I needed! By all means, tell me everything! What did he look like? What did he sound like? What style of magic did he use? And above all……Above all, I want to hear your direct impression of him. Incongruity, Yes, that’s the word. Anything you noticed off about him will be key. Please, try and remember. Any trifle, no matter how small, is valuable. Did you notice anything strange about the King of Magic?

>I remember what he looked like, but…
>Come to think of it, something was…

[1] Mash: I remember too, but I can’t match up my memories… My visual memory of him feels like it’s smothered in noise…
[2] Holmes: Yes, something was…?

>There was one thing about his appearance…
>It felt like he wasn’t complete…

>Holmes:Something incomplete… Something incomplete, eh? If someone meeting the King of Magic for the first time felt that, then…It must be something unintentional, so subtle as to make one think, “oh?” in unconscious confusion.

>Miss Kyrielight. Could I ask you to sketch the suspect? I want you to draw the King of Magic that you saw. Normally, even this minor act would activate a curse, but we are in the Atlas Academy. Its countermeasures against external curses are likely impervious. There is no danger to you.
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I've been thinking of checking out FGO, and the swimsuit event might be the last straw. Can I actually complete the event as a beginner to keep Ass Scathach, or will I be hopelessly underpowered?

Also, what does this mean?
>>Only players who have completed 「Tainted City in Flames - Fuyuki」 can participate in this event.
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>>151201365
Lancelot. Saber is boring and shit.
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>>151200580
Hopefully. That's the only thing this order was lacking.
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>>151201709
Play through the prologue.
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>>151201709
>I've been thinking of checking out FGO, and the swimsuit event might be the last straw. Can I actually complete the event as a beginner to keep Ass Scathach, or will I be hopelessly underpowered?

Its easy as shit to complete an event and get the rare servant, its only difficult to max them out before the event ends.
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>>151201709
It means only players who have completed 「Tainted City in Flames - Fuyuki」 can participate in this event.
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Reminder to save quartz for the foreshadowed Melty Blood Collab
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>>151201709
That means you need to have completed the first chapter of the story.
It also means you can probably do the event as a noob ("hard" events usually ask you to have cleared the latest chapter to get in), though you'll need to do some grinding. Levels are important.
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>>151201709
Yes, theres enough time. I'd say reroll till you get a good 4 star servant, and then finish Fuyuki by tonight.
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>>151201926
>no Sion
Meh. And I already have Ryougi so everyone else is shit in MB
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>>151200580
If Ishtar is a loli I will laugh.
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>>151201826
>>151201831
>>151202000
>>151202005
Thanks!
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>>151201709
Fuyuki is a chapter. The prologue.
And yes, abuse support servants from other players.
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>>151201709
Getting the event servant is easy with a max level support.
Getting their ascension items are the hard part
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>>151200071
I'll destroy Solomon with this team.
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>>151202006
Do you even main Ryougi bro?
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>>151201709

Depends of how much time do you have and your willpower. If you go full autism right now, probably.
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>>151201657
That's a lie. Medb, Da Vinci, Marie, Euryale and Stheno all have better body in lore with skills to represent that.
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>>151201718
In what order should I level up Saberlot's skills?
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>>151202124
Yes, crescent moon

You trying to get bodied?
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>Fate/Zero and UBW are in Netflix

Mmm, I wonder if the subs sucks or not.
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As a discipline of magecraft, what exactly does witchcraft entail? I mean runic magic, alchemy, and necromancy are all their own disciplines, so I'm not really sure what witchcraft is supposed to be about.
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>>151201926
I'd whale for a Sion
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>>151201709
Remember to save up as much quartz as you possibly can until a servant you really want gets a rate-up in the gacha. The rates for rolling 5* servant are horrible and unless you have a significant amount of quartz stored up you most likely won't roll the servants you want the most when you get the chance.

You will be able to play through most of the game with the servant you get in the first roll, the servants you get for completing chapters and all the event servants.
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>>151201657
What? Her face is ugly as hell, she just has a nice pair of exaggerated tits. Her pussy is darker than the abyss she lives in. Even a slut like Medb is more perfect than she is.
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>>151201926
I want Akiha
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>>151202386
Orgasms and potions.
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>>151202386
Curses.
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>>151202386

Curses and predicting the future. You know, all the witchy shit you see in folklore and fables.
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>>151201709
If you want to play the game specifically for the swimsuit event you should buy a starter account with 800 quartz for like $2 so you can actually roll something.
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>>151202386
Rune craft = Power in symbols
Magecraft = Pulling power from envirmenet
Witchcraft = Pulling power from inside

>Maleficium [EX]
>The sacred rituals of the Dakini goddesses. The rituals confer the abilities to perform such actions as foretell the time and place of one's death and manipulate the hearts and minds of both men and women. Due to a number of very harsh lessons impressed upon her in the past, Tamano-no-Mae no longer make use of her still formidable skills in these areas.

>02 - Maleficum
>The Witchcraft that Caster uses is all physical phenomena performed with her own body. While common Magecraft are programs that "recompose what exists around," Witchcraft are programs that "recompose the raw materials in one's own body."
>According to Caster's own word:
>"This time there is only one due to the constrains of the Moon Cell, but originally I could produce a million troops from my multiple tails!"
>That is really suspicious though.
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>All these destroy Solomon teams
>none equipped with Origin Bullet to get through his entire battle Invulnerability
Enjoy getting wiped. You're also fucked if you don't have a servant that removes all debuffs from your party
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>768,627,974
If anyone wants to add me I could do with some more friends,
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>>151202345
Fatefags can get so stingy about translations. I think that's why major franchise installments stay untranslated for so long even though there's such a sizeable number of fans.
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>>151201178
>Hasn't even cleared Camelot
>Thinks he's in any way ready to take on Solomon
Jetfags, when will they learn?
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Should I advance story (currently in America) or go full-time dailies? Even with the week of 1/2 AP daily cost reduction, I do really need more exp cards and materials
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>>151202838
Funniest thing was Hollow Gate.

Gotta love how Jack got buttblasted about the TL not being "perfect". Nobody but him gave a shit though.
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>>151202719
Don't worry, man. I got this. God spear needs no second strike. Solowimp is fucked. gg no Li.
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>>151198975
No
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>>151202817
Sent, I'm >>151201608
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>>151202340
> crescent
That's the good shit man. That's the good shit.

>>151202345
The anime adaptations aren't completely accurate anyways.
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>>151203249

>Rin just has a kaleidostick in her fucking trunk

Why didn't she just win the Grail War with that?
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>>151203359
Because it's an asshole.
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>>151203063
I want this one!
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>>151202084
>>151202101
>>151202134
>>151202447
>>151202671
Thanks again. Gonna read up on the game mechanics.
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>>151202817
Added you senpai.

>SHIELDBRO
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>>151200071
nice star team anon
i would include manjew, but he's man
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>>151203359
>>Rin just has a kaleidostick in her fucking trunk

She's had that since the start, but its a serious pain to ever use. Zelretch made it that way as a joke since he seems to be a lot like Merlin. Whoever uses it will have their pride entirely destroyed instantly. Its powerful but not worth it.

Prisma was based on Hollow Ataraxia scenes.
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>>151203359
Ruby is awful and a pervert.

Also Class Cards not existing in that universe means that Kaleidostick Magical Girls aren't really all that strong.
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>>151202817
Adding you soon™
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>>151202990
The whole thing about right and correct was kinda funny because of how out of control it got. I know some people tried to argue that the official subs were bad because the translator deliberately sabotaged their own subs, phrasing them poorly, for the sake of creating new memes like the old "People die when they are killed."
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>Kimono Sensei when?
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>>151202306
Don't take my word for it, as I don't actually have him and never get to use him, but I'd say 1>3>2. EAM is perfectly functional at level 1. It's only worth leveling for the cooldown.
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>>151203508
>only have MHX, davinci, Drake and an np5 scat support
Am i gonna make it?
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>>151203359
I doubt Ruby would like to partake in the war since it's not something a mahou shoujo would do. Also she works differently than the Prisma version.
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>>151202817
Sent. AUO with lvl 100 Gil.
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>>151203863
>>>/reddit/
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>>151202817
>that best Saint
Sent, Wind
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>>151203710
We don't need anymore shit
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>>151202817
Sent.
> Essa
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>>151202817
>George
Based taste

Added you as Spoons
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>>151203939
Stay mad.
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Did you know female Servants receive only 77 units of prana for every 100 male Servant's recieve?
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>>151203939
Fuck off melvin
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>>151203682
>Cursed Arm at level 65 with maxed skills and a great CE
Why didn't you bring him to 80/90?
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>>151203470
I know you do
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>>151202817
Added, Dust
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>>151203470
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https://www.myinstants.com/instant/ka-chink/
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>>151204130
Waiting this event free QP, also no apples to farm exp
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>>151204092

You sayin' most Masters are gay or something? ONORE KISAMA
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>tfw missed Kintoki Rider
w-when does he come back?
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>Average fate thread outside of /fgog/

>>>/a/145448819
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>>151204349
Never.
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>>151204349
>w-when does he come back?
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I'll buy time while you escape.
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>>151202817
Added as "Red". Sorry my Servants are so shit, Senpai. I promise I'll get Scat to 90 once I get some more Talons.
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>>151204272
diabetus
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>>151204349
Wait and hope.
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
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>>151204092
Well yeah, Male servants work harder for those 100 prana units.
Female servants keep taking too much time off and not joining grail wars which pay as much.
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>>151204468
You don't mind if I beat this thing, right?
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>>151204349
Never. Congrats on missing practically a free 5 star servant with how fucking good he is.
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>>151204387
That's not average in the sightless, and this place also gets those shitposters.
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>Gaheris sides against both Gawain and Gareth in the RoTK civil war
I wonder just what the hell he was thinking.
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Just you fags know that I won't use your meme servants lv.100 if they don't have bond CE.
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>>151204468
You don't mind if I beat her, right?
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>>151203550
So basically
>weak magi are decent people
>decent to good magi are fucking awful
>amazing magi are good-natured but total weirdos
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So why is Cleopatra cucking Caesar with Ozzy?
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What could Solomon possibly do against this
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>>151205016
>Dantes
nothing
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>>151204468
"Yeah. Buying you some time is fine, but...
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Who is in the shop after Da Vinci goes Nippon Banzai Kamikaze in camelot?

>>151204387
Anyone up to shitpost that thread to hell and back with our ebin maymays?
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>>151204749
We know nothing about his personality in the Nasuverse.
He maybe is a big humanist and doesn't like the idea of killing innocent people even if it is necessary.
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>>151204907
More accurately:
> Magi are all assholes.
> Magi not raised as magi (Shirou) are not always assholes but are also shit at magic.
> Magi who go all the way become monsters who are actually pretty nice (Touko) except with a few quirks (the fucking slut sister)
> Magicians are nutters to avoid.
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>>151205016
Burn through your front line before coming face to face with Mashu who will find it within herself to become the first level 6 servant and unleash her great power.

She dies and Dantes solos the fight, no quartz used and no command spells wasted.
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>>151204349
>>151204438
>>151204560
>>151204702
>>151204446

Realisticly speaking, I think new players would be very appreciated if welfare servants get brought back in a future event. I would love to have Nobu.
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>>151204387
I first noticed it when UBW was airing, but I'm sure it goes back farther than that: nobody who actually likes Fate or TM on /a/ starts threads out of the blue.

When a new chapter of something gets translated or a new novel gets released, someone might make a thread about it. And of course new episodes of any airing Fate series gets its live thread and its subbed release thread. But the random threads that happen every day? Those are ALWAYS started by shitposters complaining about something. The shitposters usually get bored at some point before the post limit, so even the shitposting threads can turn around towards the end, but it always starts with shitposting.

And like I said, this has been going on for years. It's not like /fgog/ is preventing decent posters from making threads that aren't shitposts.
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>>151205198
A hologram of Da Vinci
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>>151204907
Top ranking magus are almost entirely distanced from humanity, their nature is very secluded or close to nature. Almost as a way of balancing this out, they have a natural jovial side that wants to fuck with people whenever they get the chance.

I wouldn't call them entirely good natured; Merlin is the one that led Arthuria down her path and inhumanity, Zelretch's students almost never make it back in one piece.

However they do still have their interesting points aside from that. The higher up you are the more you're entirely off your gourd.
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>>151204749

Agravain was his cousin, too. Technically the King is actually his aunt, though unclear if he knows that as a Servant (he should given it's part of the common legend)

>this fucking family I swear
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>>151205198
>Who is in the shop after Da Vinci goes Nippon Banzai Kamikaze in camelot?
A hologram version of her. Surprised me the first time I saw it, I thought the graphics were fucking up.
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>>151204468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H49Iajusd_M
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Shirou is a dumbass, a Fraud and a hypocrite.
But he's a respectable dumbass, fraud and hypocrite with a beautiful dream.
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>>151205403
Agravain is his brother.
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>>151202817
Added anyone up to now and still have some space left
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>>151205016
>grailed Astolfo
Can you tell me your friendcode or add me please?
061,587,519
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>>151204387
Actually the average /a/ Fate/TM threads are usually waifu wars and powerlevel autism, so basically the same shit as here. At leas from what I've seen.
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>>151205535
It's not "can you keep up with me, YOU KEEP UP TO ME
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>>151205792

No, Agravain is Morgan's son in Nasuverse. She raises him to be her little pawn knight on the RT, but he rejects her because he recognizes Arturia as the superior ruler.
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>>151205868
The only place I've seen a Fate/TM thread that didn't devolve into waifu wars and powerlevel autism was on /tg/.
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>>151204387
She's simply the best.
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>>151205854
Check your friend invites
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>>151205958
This, this does explain a bit with how much the two bickered and talked so much in Camelot
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>>151205958
Gawain is also Morgan's son in the Nasuverse, Morgause doesn't seem to exist actually.
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>>151205198
Wait Da Vinci died in Camelot?
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>>151205958
>Agravain is Morgan's son in Nasuverse
So are Gawain, Gaheris, and Gareth. And of course Mordred.
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>>151199160
Medb-chan is a cutie.
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>>151206137
Probably one of her three personalities.
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>Chaos Talons missing from the event shop
This kills the snek. One of the maps is sure to have multiple chimeras, right?
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>>151206189
He tried to kill himself to kill Lancelot but failed and Lancelot saved his life.
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>>151206137
They were ALL traditionally Morgause's children. Fate just goes with the more modern interpretation/misunderstanding that basically merges Morgan la Fae and Morgause into one character.
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>>151206335
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>>151206096
Thanks!
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>>151206048
My daughteru!
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You have one bullet and two hostages
They are Shoji and Takeuchi
You have to kill one, but the other one is set free to the authorities.
Who do you kill?
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What flower means hope?
I need to buy some.
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>>151206597
Myself
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>>151206416
I know, I wasn't trying to imply otherwise.
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>>151206227

Proof?
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>>151206597
shoji obviously.
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>>151206597
Fate is nothing without the real writer Takeuchi.
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>>151206597
Shoji. Killing Takeuchi makes Nasu commit suicide.
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>>151206597
Shoji
At least Takeuchi creates
Shoji made me suffer more than any amount of cancerous Saberfaces ever could
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>>151206597
Shoji, and I tell Takeuchi he's next if he doesn't give us more Shiki.
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>>151206597
REDETHIS
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>>151206048
The tits on that fanart are disgusting though.
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>Archer EMIYA managed to kill herc 5 times
>Hercules at the end of the fight wished he was sane so he could properly exchange swordskills and considered him an worthy fight
>We will never see this written down and the only animation we have of it is the shitty DEEN version.

i will trudge through the snow.
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>>151206597
Takeuchi. Shoji is just a corporate drone that will be replaced by someone else. Getting rid of Takeuchi will save Fate.
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>>151206597
Shoji.

Takeuchi is too bro tier to kill. I'd even drop Nasu before Takeuchi.
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>>151206425
Arondight looks better here than in official art. But I think it's still a little bit bent, though.
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>151203508
You could use Mozart
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>>151206597
Shoji
Takeuchi is chill and creating a cancerous mobage is more damaging to Fate than any Saberface Takeuchi shoved down our throats.
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>>151202965
Anyone can help me decide this?
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>>151206962
Sane archer herc would slaughter EMIYA
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>>151207125
Doesn't change where Heracles was thinking during the fight.
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>>151207125
probably, Berserker is easily his worst class since he's very powerful outside of it.

it still speaks volumes about how amazing the Herc vs EMIYA fight was if it makes an insane person wish he could've experienced it better.
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>>151206962
>not loving deen/stay night
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>>151206597
Is this a real question?
Obviously Shoji.
Anyone that says Takeuchi is parroting "SABERFACE".

Takeuchi made TM
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>>151207125
Archer Herc uses only his bow doesn't he?
A Saber Herc vs EMIYA would be neat
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>>151207125

>Heracles in not his weakest class, with more than only Godhand and with all his skill and intelligence would slaughter a mid-tier Servant

YOU DON'T SAY
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>>151207125
Yes, but the fight against Berserker Herc would have been amazing.
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>>151206597
Shot Takeuchi and then break Shoji's head by hitting it with the gun.
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>>151207305
>those shitty weird pink swords he used.
the UBW was decent, but the actual DEEN anime which weirdly amalgamates all the routes was a fucking mess.
besides even the DEEN fight cut short after he called out UBW
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>mfw my 100% buster card doesn't crit
>but the 60% quick card does
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>>151205308
they confirmed not anytime
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>>151207569
>>mfw my 100% buster card doesn't crit
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Could Emiya with unlimited prana/mana materialize Excalibur?
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>want to grail ascend bedi, sasaki, or alexander next
>can only choose one and it'll probably take a year to just get them all to 90
When are they refunding the grails and making them 10 levels per until 90 then 5 levers per?
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>>151207707
No. The best he can do is Excalibur Image.
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>>151207707

It's not about the mana, it's about not having the resources required to construct it on Earth

The mana would help when he actually has to use the damn thing, though, since it's a massive mana sink
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>>151205308
DW pulled a jew on you, they said they want it to be special and so on and forth. She'll never be back.
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>>151207331
He can use the bow a blunt force weapon if he wants to. The bow is tough as hell.
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>>151207707
it would be even more of a downgrade than regular projection but with Infinite Prana he'd be able to materialize a decently powerful replica.

That said EMIYA with infinite prana would be pretty terrifying
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>>151207707
>Still no option to use different pieces of clothing, accessories, or hairstyles from different ascensions to make your own style
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>>151207707
I wish he had this hair with this outfit
They really need to fix his Sprite
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>>151207707
Nope.

He could however fucking laugh in the face of everything ever as infinite power would mean he could hold UBW indefinitely.

The real bastard would actually be giving Satsuki infinite power to power up Depletion Garden. That shit would cover the entire world and basically fuck it good.
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>>151207125
It would still be interesting. It might be too much to ask Archer to take one life there but the battle would have been great.
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>>151207765
>10 levels per
It should've just been a consistent 5 per. Having to waste 5 grails to get someone from 90-100 for only around 600 stats is awful.
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>Kintoki Rider NP one-shots Nitocris after I was worried she would kill the friend support

Feels good to be GOLDEN
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>>151207569
>100% buster card doesn't crit
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>>151207786

That's only in the Mooncell, where materials not accessible on Earth are available to Archer to use in UBW for weapon crafting. Excalibur Image is technically as powerful as the real Excalibur, it would just automatically lose to the real thing because it is still only Archer's mental image of it, not the true Last Phantasm of Gaia.
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Someone post the pic where Hyde had 30k health.
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>>151207125
Niggas underestimate the redman.
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>>151208025
You have to wonder how Enkidu would feel about that. He can keep up with GoB spam, but can he keep up with UBW spam?

>>151208223
I dropped a Rider Kintoki NP with buffs from my Helena and a support Waver on an Ifreeta mob and scored 300K damage. Welfare servants are ridiculous.
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>yfw swimsuit event gives us no grails
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>>151208180
>Sane Saber Herc vs EMIYA in UBW
>EMIYA theme and Hercs Theme playing together in a remix
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>>151207707
He said he could make a decent copy of it without it, so odds are he could.

He also said that if two holy swords crossed shit was going to get nasty for everyone involved and that was enough to stop saber giving it a go.
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>>151208385
They wouldn't do that, would they?
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>>151208612
The lack of Lily x EMIYA art hurts me
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>>151208369
It would be impossible for Enkidu to keep up against EMIYA with unlimited mana. Gil's treasury and Enkidu mud can eventually deplete after days no matter the quantity of mana.
UBW is infinite as long as it is up.
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>>151206707
The closest thing I've been able to find to an explicit statement that they're siblings is that Gaheris "resolved himself to parting with his older brothers and younger sisters" in the pre-Camelot events that Nasu talked about in his blog. Two older brothers would be Agravain and Gawain, two younger sisters would be Gareth and Mordred.

But it's a pain in the dick to try and find specific translations/summaries when you don't even remember what site they were posted on.

Regardless, them all being siblings is normal in Arthurian legend.
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>>151208612
i want to see EMIYA and Saber alter be edgy together.
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>>151207585
strange pairing but that's a nice pic
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>>151208592
Yes they would
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>>151208716
There's that one fan manga at c90 where EMIYA acts as a Mom so to speak towards the Alters
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>>151208369
I wouldn't put it past Enkidu to be able to keep up but he is facing off against a former H-protagonist. The plot armour would have Archer winning by the skin of his teeth.
It's a shame UBW has a 3x mana cost for armour. The amount of plot armour EMIYA creates must be taking a massive toll on him.
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>>151208369
>implying UBW is somehow worse than serious Gil GOB spamming the strongest NP known to man
Really nigga
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>>151208651
That's vanilla Seibah anon
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>>151208810
>fanfiction garbage
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>>151208223
>Internet was having problems all throughout the demon island event.

He's locked at third ascension with only a NP2 for me. I'm not even sure if it's worth leveling him when I already have a level 70 Alexander and Ushi.
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>>151208706

You would think the fact that Gawain and etc. are all Morgan's sons would have been brought up at literally any point before now, especially considering it doesn't make sense that Morgan would 'test' Gawain's honor like she does in the Green Knight if he is her son. Moreover, why did she only make Agravain and Mordred her pawns if all of them were her children? Why not brainwash the whole lot of them? 5 out of 12 knights would be an insane advantage for her side.
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>>151208878
He already failed her route. Go home redman
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>>151208810
man i hope this gets scanned and TL'd.
That sounds really fun.
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>>151208878
I know what I said
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>>151208895
Emiya is everyone's mom
According to interludes he regularly teams up with Raikou and Boudica to do mom stuff
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>>151208853
Enkidu kept up with GoB spam in a similar way EMIYA did, just by launching equally as powerful things at him. Given that he could only Match and not outpace GoB i'd say EMIYA might be able to get past the Clay, not that he'd win given how Enkidu is more than just spamming a shit load of things at you.
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Gilgamesh is such an asshole

He already knows everything but he's keeping his mouth shut just so Merlin and Solomon can have their fun
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>>151209142
This is hot and I can totally get behind this.
It's not exactly out of character for him either.
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>>151208369
Welfare servants are making most normal 4* servants useless because they're easy to acquire and are NP5.
Kintoki and Shiki are the top 2 4*, with Saber Lancelot as the third.
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>>151209142
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>>151209219
The world is his garden. He has to keep his promise to keep it entertaining.
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>>151208974
He still has an option in GO
Nasu will make best boy happy right? ;_;
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>>151209219
He likes fun.
I guess that's why he didn't EA whole fuyuki
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>>151209142
is this from Raikou's interlude?
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>>151209219
>Gilgamesh is such an asshole

Stopped reading there. No matter what you say after this, you can't invalidate this statement.
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>>151208297
I honestly have no idea if it was a glitch or what. But there was no critting whatsoever.
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>>151208954
Gawain didn't grow with all of them. He came to know them only after getting to be an Arthur's knight.

I don't know how true that is for the Nasuverse though, but even here it seems family relationships are all messed up.
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If the seven standard class containers are only standard because they're derived from the seven Grand classes, then what about irregular classes such as Avenger and Ruler? Were those class containers created from scratch? And if that could be done, why not just create all participating classes like that for the sake of even further optimizing the roles you want the servants to perform? Even if Fuyuki's war is meant to be stacked in favor of the knight classes, it should be possible to go even farther down that road by not staying limited to the parameters of standard containers.
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>>151209359
for a second there i thought it was Mode and EMIYA would be a decent Chichiue to her.
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>>151209216
yes but Emiya is good at fighting and does it a hell of a lot more intelligently than Gil when he wants to.

Emiya is a snarky git that has way too much information from the world to ever be passed lightly.
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>>151209219
If they reaaally wanted to know they would have asked Ko-Gil before Gil
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>>151209451
If they could put the Boxer class into a grail war, everyone would immediately fuck off to Ireland to get their Bazett panty Catalyst to summon her.
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Some anon asked last thread if there were any frankmoe fags who maxed her; I posted mine a day or two back.

Have a swimsuit Fran as I worry she'll be in the second gacha and break my level 100 10/10/10 NP5 Fran euphoria.
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>>151209402
Oh boy!
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>>151209451
Am I the only one who doesn't read post like this.>>151209451
It's like too exhausting for my mind to read that far to the right
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>>151209368
Yeah. Boudica and red man haven't had an interlude in forever, let alone since Onigashima.
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>>151209632
>Canceller glass
>They negate all attacks and NPs but have no offensive capabilities
>Literally shitposting the servant because the only winning move is not to play
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If Tamamo Lancer really does have a targetable buster version of Fox Wedding, poor Nightingale is going to be literally useless.
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>>151208369
>>151208703
>>151208825
>>151209216

We already knows what happens when Gil actually fights against UBW seriously, Enkidu's Enuma Elish can match Ea so the result will be the same

Not to mention you guys forget Enkidu has the highest stats amongst all Servants at all A parameters, even higher than Karna and Herc. He can probably just beat EMIYA to death with his fists.
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>>151209685
>Gawain
>devoted stupidly to

Yeah, that's about right.
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>>151209515
>No cute art of EMIYA comforting a sad mode
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>>151209849
prisma shit is not canon
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>>151209657
Likewise, fellow Frankenfag.
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>>151209402
>family relationships are all messed up.
No shit.

>Agravain wanted to fuck his king
>who was also his uncle
>but who was actually his aunt
>who was also the father of his half-brother
>and who was therefore also his first cousin
>but who was actually his half-sister
>who was also an identical clone of his uncle-aunt king
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Why is Camelot so long? Fuck, I wanna farm medals for my Saber Lancelot already but this shit just never ends.
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>>151209815
Fuck off /v/
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>>151209657
Yeah that's me.
Congratulations you have a nice and cute waifu.
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>>151209878
I'd pay to see more of this.
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>>151209895
why?
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>>151209818
See, your logic is sound but then all that does is makes a grail war Master vs Master and in which case you may as well just join the Class Card war.
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>>151209895
Nasu said offical illya root
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>>151209849
It's about the people, though. Enkidu is a pretty jovial guy who just likes having fun. It would be more like:

> Alright, let's play around.
> Oh? This guy can keep up. That's fun.
> Can he handle this?
> Oh. Guess I broke him. Too bad.
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test
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>>151209849
Herc has an A+. If Enkidu wanted an A+, his other stats would get nerfed to C, or D, don't remember exactly.
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>DW implements a new combined animations when you chain certain servants NP
>swordbeams combine to make a bigger one
>Waver uses Formation of no return inside of Iskandar's Ionioi Hetaroi
>Kojiro and Okita do Tsubame Gaeshi and mumyou sandan Zuki
at the same time
What combinations would you make /fgog/?
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>>151209849
>Gilgcvck fianlly accepts Prisma is canon just like Nasu said so
So we can finally agree l_l|\|RIVALED > EMIYA and Gilgkek.
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>>151209849
Gil doesn't get to use Ea if UBW comes out, against EMIYA UBW coming out is an instant loss for goldie.

He loses to Shiro if it comes out for gods sake.
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>>151210059
>Bazzet beating servant in 1 on 1 combat
>some weird loop-hole bullshit about EMIYA being able to trace excalibur through class cards
>Shirou being able to run through a field of Heroic spirits that where able to push back Magical engines of mass descruction

You tell me champ
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>>151210059
It triggers reddit.
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>>151208954
Has there ever been any reference made in Fate to Gawain and the Green Knight? Regardless, keep in mind that in much of the older Arthurian literature, Agravain/Gawain/Mordred's mother is Morgause, not Morgan la Fae. They are two separate people. Morgan, not Morgause, was the one who tested Gawain with the Green Knight.

I can't answer why she focused all her efforts on Agravain instead of the other ones, though. It might be that he was naturally the most bad-natured of them all and thought he would be the easiest to control. Realizing that he was actually completely loyal to the king was probably when she started work on Mordred, as a plan B.

It probably just comes down to Arthurian legend being a massive clusterfuck and Nasu just being constrained by that clusterfuck. Agravain and Mordred were always assholes, Gawain and Gaheris and Gareth were not.
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>>151210059
Kaleidosticks ≥ Ea.
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>>151210325
Embarrassing.
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>want to start grinding for bond
>favorite servant hasn't gotten a bond ce yet
Hurry up and release more before I do something terrible to DW.
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>>151210176
That's the stuff
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>>151210205
He wouldn't need more than an A to kill most of the servants in the series, given he has A in all other parameters too
This is before even mentioning his NP
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>>151210376
>Bazzet beating servant in 1 on 1 combat
This seems accurate though
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>>151209402
This is kinda more confusing because IIRC, Gawain, Mordred, etc's mother was not Morgan, but Morgause, Morgana only had Ywain as a son.
But then both got slapped as one character
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>>151210406

>what is the Belt of Bertilak AKA the Green Sash of Gawain
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>>151210325
I've always wanted the Okita+Kojiro double sword technique.
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>>151210406
Gawain's my room lines actually reference the Green Knight
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>cards
this tell everything about how much prisma isn't canon.
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>>151210325
Dual No Second Strike.

It's simple but it works.
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>>151210325
>Rhon and Excalibur Morgan at the same time
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>>151210594
Fuck off cuck
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>>151210406
>>151210557
What the fuck happen with Sir Ywain then?
Is now part of Gawain family or what?
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>>151210375
>thinking UBW shit is canon
You do realize he only lost because he never took the fight serious in the first place? If he has Ea out before UBW there is no way he loses, and if he is serious from the start - he will have it out
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>>151210576
>>151210594
Well then FUCK IF I KNOW.

Maybe the Green Knight was Morgan's way of figuring out how easily Gawain could be exploited.
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>>151210524
>Human
>Beating a Servant

Unless the servants spawned from the class cards where HEAVILY nerfed there shouldn't even be a remote chance for that, atleast with EMIYA and Cu.
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Kaleidoscope, boys. Everything is canon. Even that shitty fanfic you keep wanting to write but don't because you know how autistic it sounds.
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>>151210176
Why do they move their ahoge?
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>>151210406
>Has there ever been any reference made in Fate to Gawain and the Green Knight

Almost all of gawain room lines
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>GILGAMEMERS NOW WANNA ARGUE PRISMA IS CANON WHEN THEY KEPT DENYING IT IN THE PAST
_/VST
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So now you accept Lancelot can easily shit on G¡lgameme just like Julian said.


G!LFAGS BTFO
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>>151210059
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>>151210736
>Unless the servants spawned from the class cards where HEAVILY nerfed

Not that anon but they were. It's a plot point that the corruption weakened them.

Also fuck you, Fragarach.
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Did that anon who was making the big chart of all of the literature that Servants are from finish it?
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>>151210723
And he was fighting Shirou, not heroic spirit EMIYA.

Against EMIYA it's over.

If EMIYA is serious then he kills gil from miles away in a way goldie can't defend against.
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How do I see how long it's been since a friend logged in?
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>>151210736
Hell, Hollow Ataraxia proves that Fragarach and Gae Bolg result in mutual destruction. That means Bazett could never have used her trump card and survived the battle against Lancer.
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>>151210764
last time I asked someone told me that it's to communicate
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>>151210736

They are actually, we know for a fact that every Noble Phantasm in Prisma Ilya is actually ranked down due to the class card system. Hence why Godhand only blocks up to C rank attacks and so on.
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>>151199009
You're right, the other poster just confused the two incidents and conflated them with one another.
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>>151210862
>If EMIYA is serious then he kills gil from miles away in a way goldie can't defend against.
Alcides tried that in Strange Fake. It didn't work.

If EMIYA wants to beat Gil, he has to get him inside UBW while Ea is still in the vault.
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>>151210840
that explains alot.

Fragarach wouldn't, or well shouldn't show up since most humans would die just from raw power from servants, Cu wouldn't need to Gae-bolg since he can just stab her to death, Assassin could just behead her etc.
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>>151210736
Gil got stronger by pulling power from Fuyuki's leylines. Parameters could have been anywhere for any of the Servants.

Then again, Bazette may just be extra beefy in Prisma.
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>>151210862
>forgetting about Gil's clairvoyance that he turns off most of the time because he's so full of himself
Gil with just a quarter of his most useful abilities in play stomps anything, let's not even mention him having his most devastating NP in play
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>>151210406
His MyRoom lines talk about him and his new skill (that could also be a NP) is a reference to it.
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>>151210862
could emiya hurts gil in armor?
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>>151210943
just make him use the thrown version
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>>151211057
I can't remember the reason he faced her off with it in F/HA.
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>>151211018
It's not the same at all. Stop being dumb, Alcides doesn't get to use magical arrows that can do things like continue to go after the target no matter how much you block it.
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Hey GUYS

Divine Beasts such as Moby Dick and Typhon are more on the level of "super weapons" than actual living creatures

MOBY DICK BOSS INCOMING
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>>151209451
I remember once having the idea that the class system would be better if the classes were defined by character archetypes from legends, maybe some stuff like the tarot with the Fool, the Hangman, the Hierophant and so on, instead of defining the classes by who fights with the sword and who fights with the pointy stick.

But then I realized it doesn't matter anyway because Nasu will always do whatever he likes and he will happily write his way around any rules so long as he thinks the result is cool. And that's okay.
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>>151210862

>And he was fighting Shirou, not heroic spirit EMIYA.

Precisely. He attacked EMIYA from surprise just to get rid of him because he identified him as a threat. He wouldn't fuck around against him like he did with Shirou.

>If EMIYA is serious then he kills gil from miles away in a way goldie can't defend against.

Gilgamesh's master couldn't even be sniped from 20km away by Alcides who has Strength A, what on earth makes you think that EMIYA's shitty 4km range is good enough to snipe Gilgamesh?
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>>151210736
Read HA.
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>Shirou had already seen Gilgamesh at full power
>he had seen his own full power at work
>still panics when he realizes what he is up against and tells Miyu to fuck off before she gets fucked by best Servant
U/\/R!VALED
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>>151209312
>Japan has the most motherly servants
What is this bullshit?
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>>151211119
Why would he use the less effective variant, even as a card servant?
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>>151210325
dantes and Karna throwing Lasers would be cool
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>>151211057
To be fair, while Cu does mention that getting to the stage of needing to use a NP would be difficult for Bazett to achieve.
Shirou shows what you can force an opponent to do under the right circumstances.
In most cases, if Bazett is fighting servants, she has a servant of her own, which should theoretically be Cu.
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>>151211250
You act like EMIYA can't do more and you also forget that he can't use magical swords as arrows, or throw them around as broken phantasms.
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>>151211280
because she won't let him get in to use the efficient version
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>>151209979
This is outrageous. This is incestous sodomy you're talking about. My boy Akkun was a good Christian.
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>>151210943
Bazett has revival runes in Prisma.
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>>151211321
if you throw in lancer into the mix then yeah she'd be able to handle them, but in a 1 on 1 situation Bazzet should lose every time except for a fringe case where the opponent uses their NP
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>>151211152

Hrunting BP spam is so garbage that even Saber can parry it up to five times while guarding deadweight like Shirou. Try Caladbolg II, at the very least.

But it's irrelevant regardless, because Gilgamesh can see it all coming and block with the appropriate defensive NP for the attack.
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>>151211152
Now you're arguing EMIYA has stronger arrow NP than alcides?

Just leave. Alcides can shoot a fucking arrow from a state away and hit its target within minutes
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>>151211152
>Alcides doesn't get to use magical arrows that can do things like continue to go after the target no matter how much you block it.
Gil can counter those with the originals. EMIYA sniping is a lot slower than EMIYA swordspamming inside UBW.
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>>151211420
Because Bazett has a long history of being faster than one of the fastest Servants in the series?

>>151211483
Ah, so that would be the bullshit way to counteract it.
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>>151209895
its depiction of Ea has been accurate to the rest of Fate works.

If anything Miyuverse Shirou is stronger than EMIYA has ever shown to be in terms of quantity of weapons and the ability to project divine constructs and he still can't beat Angelica who is weaker than a full power Gil (except she's always fighting seriously)

>>151210059
Honestly I don't think this was such an asspull, Ko-gil said he was only at half power after the fight and even so, if anything can beat Ea it would be the Kaleidoscopes since they utilize Second Magic which Zelretch defeated Crimson Moon with.

>>151210375
Gil just has to summon all the shields in GoB to tank for him long enough to draw Ea and it's over.

>>151211018
>>151211250
>>151211089

Alcides >>> Archer at long range sniping and even he could barely break through Gil's automated defense systems which included some form of lightning bolt NPs. Emiya's attacks would be shot down at range.

Alcides's arrows are the only attack shown to have ever broken Gil's golden armour, the same one which can tank physical blows from Excalibur.
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>>151211567
You don't need to be faster you just need the timing.
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>>151210325
Angra + Dantes. Dantes attacks Angra instead of the enemies. Could work with any other servant.
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>>151211515
Yes, when pvp mode comes out.
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>>151211515
It wouldn't be bad but DW said that FGO is more of a single player experience.
So no.
Would be nice though.
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Canonfags fuck off. Prisma >>> shit like Zero and UBW
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>>151211364
Are you really fucking arguing that EMIYA stands a chance against Gil? Gil can see that fucking snipe coming before EMIYA even decides he's going to use that method.
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>>151211567
>Because Bazett has a long history of being faster than one of the fastest Servants in the series?
Just stay out of range. It's not like he can fire off the thrusted version in 1 second.
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>>151210736
Have you even reader Hollow Ataraxia. The only servants she failed to win against were Cu because of MAD and Herk because of God Hand and no active NP. Bazett is pretty OP and Fragarach is the ultimate NP for 1v1 duels. The moment the enemy uses their NP they die instantly and it fizzles.
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>>151211627
Actually, Saber was hammering away with Invisible Air & Gil mentioned his armor is close to its limit.
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>>151211627
yeah gil is pretty op
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>>151211527
>even saber

You say this as if saber isn't sword jesus in fate. I swear to god the reading comprehension of people that talk about fate is somewhere in the region of 8 years old.

>>151211557
Throwing the original is not the same as actually using it, that's the entire fucking point. That's literally everything Nasu throws in your face repeatedly about goldie.
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>>151210856
Last updated version I saw
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Why are we arguing EMIYA anything in the first place, he even tells you he knows he is the weakest Servant and his only super relevant skills is knowledge on Servants cause he's from the future and being Batman.
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>>151211557
>>151211554
>>151211527
Just leave it alone guys, EMIYAfags aren't this delusional so I will assume it's just one vocal shitposter
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TFW no 5*s
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>>151210736
>>Human
>>Beating a Servant

Such a thing happened in the most recent chapter of FGO
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>>151211782
>he has failed at anticipating much slower and more obvious attacks on multiple occasions in the past
>but this time he will surely succeed
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>>151211845
That was mistranslated, he actually just said that she has a lot of magic energy this time.
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>>151211501
Or outstrengths them due to them being weak as fuck, like Mata Hari or any of the bronze servants that aren't named Asterios etc.
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>>151211841
>Servants having to use an NP against a human
Last time i checked she basically abused the shit out of the time looping situation and kinda flow charted her way into getting the enemy into using an NP when they wouldn't need to in most situations.
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>>151211627
>Alcides >>> Archer at long range sniping and even he could barely break through Gil's automated defense systems which included some form of lightning bolt NPs. Emiya's attacks would be shot down at range.

Almost as if they needed to try and establish "oh wow look how stronk this guy is! but look how stronk gilgamesh is too!"

It's a simple narrative tool.
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>>151211841
Don't they have to use their NP at full power

That said yeah Bazett is some OP wank shit, thank god she wasn't around to ruin Fate/Stay and hasn't appeared in anything serious since
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>>151211914
is there another page with Tamamo?
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>>151211914
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>>151212024
The Servants she fights in Prisma are all weaker and a bit mad, so it's not like they would be reserved in using their NPs.
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>>151211627
Julian knows the power of all the cards and he outright told Shirou that Lancelot could fuck Gilgamesh's and Shirou's entire life up.
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>>151211914
Was Kiyohime always that stacked?
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>>151212204
>thank god she wasn't around to ruin Fate/Stay and hasn't appeared in anything serious since

Nothing Bazett did in Ataraxia is anywhere near as bad as what Shirou did.
Bazett at least has magus history and a Noble Phantasm plus and infinite cycle to justify her bullshit.
Shirou just had Unlimited Bad Ends to mimic Avengers powers.
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>>151212224
>you can see the page behind
What a shitty scan.
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>>151209142
I'd like to think Boudica is the only other Servant Raikou would accept fucking their master, specially in a wild threesome.
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>>151211956
Bedi isn't quite human at that point though, the Airgetlam explicitely powered him up to match the rest of the Round Table
So humans matching servants can happen if they can get their hands on cyborg appendages made of legendary weapons
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>>151212204
i feel like a big reason she's like that is because she's deader than dead in the canon time line so they can muddle around with as much OP shit as they want since it won't effect the main continuity.
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>saber lancel0t is best servant in the game at level 100
g1lfagg0ts eternally BTF0
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>>151212321
Yeah, it's all just hidden under the kimono.
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>>151212206
Not that I know
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>>151211914
All of their poses are so stiff and awkward.
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>>151212321
Properly-worn kimonos make you look flatter.
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>>151212321
yes but her selling point are her kneesoxxu
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Anyone got that filter list pastebin? Even I can't take this shit anymore
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>>151212224
>That bit of flesh sticking out of the side of her panties.

What an erotic and specific detail to leave in.
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>>151212442
Terrible.
Just terrible.
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>>151211364

>You act like EMIYA can't do more

More than whom? Alcides? Hilarious, but no.

>you also forget that he can't use magical swords as arrows, or throw them around as broken phantasms.

Who gives a shit? The strongest thing he has is Caladbolg II and that was only powerful enough to take a single life off of Berserker. Gilgamesh's armor alone is strong enough to tank that.
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>>151212552
You can find it over on reddit.
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>>151211886
I don't know, for Romulus and other Roman servants there are a fuckton of books. Quite a lot of Roman writers did things like Historiae and shit
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>>151212424
>Leetspeak
You know this is an 18+ site, right?
>>
Would the Nasuverse be better off if Emiya Shirou and Archer were contained to just FSN and HA?
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>>151212321
Kimonos are really, really good at hiding boobage. They're practically made for it, it's considered improper if you can see the figure under the clothes
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>>151212620
seeing Doctor P not being evil is weird.
Its like seeing Atalanta not being evil, or Mordred not being bitchy.
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>>151212605
Not that anon but:
>The strongest thing he has is Caladbolg II and that was only powerful enough to take a single life off of Berserker

The fact that this happened and then that completely wrote it out of the anime adaption to wank Saber pissed me off.
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>>151212707
can't tell if you're rusing or are actually retarded
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>>151212620
final battle
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>>151211264
Because their actual parents gives no fucks outside of GOOD GRADES AND OBEY US YOU LITTLE SHIT
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>>151211845

Saber (even if it was weak ass Shirou version) hit Gil several times before Gil felt that his armour was even at risk of being damaged.

Alcides shattered part of Gil's armour with a single arrow.

>>151212317
>implying Gil can't just lol Ea GG Lancelot as always.

Julian just says Lancelot can steal aways all the NPs thrown at her from UBW or GoB.
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>>151212784
What does Atlanta do that is evil?
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>>151212823
t. Xbox live account holder
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>>151212914
>Julian just says Lancelot can steal aways all the NPs thrown at her from UBW or GoB.
can he steals 72 NP at once?
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>>151212839
Why does this art look so much better than the art the guy does for GO?
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>>151212936
Threatens the Jannu.
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>>151212938
>>151212707
how new
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>>151212713
Yes and no. It depends on how they were looking Crossover-wise.

I mean in an ideal world, we would have gotten more works out of TM after Fate that weren't stuff written before Fate but since it makes so much money and it uses such a wonderful concept, I don't blame them.
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>>151212713
It'd be better if people wouldn't aimlessly extrapolate so much.
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>>151212839
Manaka gets the grail
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>>151213017
GO artists phone it in
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>>151212424
What is the website again?
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>>151212620
Dr.Cute
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>>151212996
There's no reason to think Gilgamesh couldn't just bind Lancelot with Enkidu. He has to get his hands on something to take control of it, which he can't do if he's wrapped up the way Heracles was. And Heracles is much stronger than Lancelot.
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>>151213119
the meme one
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>>151212839
I didn't really notice until now but Dr P is left-handed

>>151212936
really nothing beyond a mere mention that she'll probably steal food if she's hungry
it's why it's a maymay, no one knows how she ended up neutral evil when she's chaotic neutral at worst
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>>151212996
He can steal EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

Julian told Shirou to bring as many as he wanted as it wouldn't make a difference.
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>>151212914
>Kekalot can steal NPs
>thousands at once
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>>151212024
She still managed to kill Seven servants, one of each class, with only three uses of Fragarach. The only use of Fragarach we know for sure was to kill Artoria. We don't know which of these servants were from the 5th war and which were from the third but it's still a good track record even if she had infinite tries. As for baiting NP's she has a Servant with her in wars and he stats are a solid B where it matters.
She's a step below Kirei doping out on Command Seals, but he was at the level of an above average knight class so she could probably take out weaker knight classes without relying on Fragarach.

>>151212204
I think they just need to use it, and if you worry about her power level she's only mid tier broken compared to some of the shit in Tsukihime or the extended Fate universe.
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>>151213243
how does he do that?
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>>151213197
Depends. Are you asking for corrupted Archer as a servant or for the masters to get mystic codes which allow them to equip Class Cards and join the battle as servants?
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>>151212713
There would be good and bad things that would not exist then, but HA's finale was absolutely God tier, It would have been a perfect end to the franchise. At this point I don't think any Fate story will have an ending as grand as HA's.
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>>151213197
Never hopefully. Fuck off prisma autist
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>>151213098
next and last chapter
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>>151213191
and much more divine, which makes it that much harder to deal with. The fact that someone with as much divinity as Herc could break it is why Herc is proof of herc being fucking hercules.
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>>151212839
Can the good doctor do it lads
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Who are they?

It is not Martha
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>>151213191
>There's no reason to think Gilgamesh couldn't just bind Lancelot with Enkidu
No Divinity. Givig Lancelot a free Enkidu is literally asking to get his shit fucked up

>Heracles is much stronger than Lancelot.
Same STR at A, + only activate for an instant.
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>>151213024
Shouldn't have exorcised the loli in front of her.
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>>151213017
I dunno. He gets called out for being lazy sometimes, and that's probably true, but in fairness the art pages in Fragments obviously get a lot more work put into them than the ones in Apocrypha did, yet Konoe doesn't get shit on as much. Nakahara's servant card art is really no good in this game, though. But I think his CEs look fine.
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>>151213260
Her + Cu is an instant win against almost any pair
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>>151213236
Which is?
Link it here, please.
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>>151212936
it's a meme about how she loves children and her canon alignment is Neutral evil.

Which is kinda funny because alot of nice characters are in the Evil Catagory but then you have people like Gil at Chaotic Good or Mordred at Chaotic Neutral.
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>>151213449
medea and cake
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>>151212620
>>151212839
Will he be getting his bond CE now that this is ending?
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>>151213393
Good end to a shit series
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>>151213237

She murdered anybody who lost to her in a footrace.
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>>151212996
>>151213243
>>151213259

Regardless of what Julian says I have no reason to believe Lancelot could pull off a defense against something like this.
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>>151213449
Why would it not be Martha?
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>>151213098
I love this evil loli
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>>151213456

+ modifiers are also sometimes just permanent, like in CCC when you increase a parameter above A rank
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>>151213191
Remember Enkidu is tougher on high-divinity servants. Lancelot isn't divine at all beyond maybe his sword, so he might just break it.
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>>151211627
I just don't understand why people still says that Prisma isn't cannon when Hiroyama already said that when he try to make the world more "accurate" the only condition Takeuchi and Nasu want was Prisma having cute girls and him having fun making it
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>>151213449
It's Martha. No one else has that kind of hair.

Why do you think she needs to be wearing the same outfit in the CE as in the CM?
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>>151213336
1st option
I got enough of the 2nd from Megaman
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>tfw Gawain is too pretty for Prisma
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>>151211515
I wish. I want to message this Robinfag and tell him he's a bro of the highest caliber.
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>>151213237
She doesn't hold any regard for human life. She's like a wild animal. Animals are evil in the Nasuverse.
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>>151213285
EAM.

>>151213259
>Julian is wrong about the cards he created
Shirou himseld told Miyu to RUN when he realized what was going on.
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>>151213236
Link?
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>>151212936

I dunno, does murdering men who just want to marry her and willingly participate in her test count as evil? Yes? No?
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>>151211914
Holy shit her legs are broken.
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>>151213502
Mordred being CN is ridiculously spot-on.
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>>151213628
Then yeah nah. Every single card would be a level 1 bronze servant.
If Bazett is strong enough to manhandle each servant zero fucks given. They're most definitely not silvers.
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>>151213471

Only if you're being a realist and not being a writer like Nasu is.
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>>151212713
It would be better if Artoria and Gilgamesh were contained to just F/SN and HA, yes.
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>>151213449
Martha and D'on or whatever his name is.
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>>151212382
The reveal at the end of the chapter, is that he actually was entirely human. Although he was basically HF Shirou, except a lot more.

>Lion King: "I am---being overpowered by a mere Heroic Spirit…? No, you are not even a Heroic Spirit. A mere human threatens to overpower me….? With your body falling apart into pieces, and yet.....Who....are you...? Why do you....go so far....?"
>Bedivere: “Because even now, I remember your smile on that day, King Arthur.”

Biggest odd reveal is that even a human a knight from that era, if they aren't a servant than their circuits are supposedly on par with humans of the current day I guess.

>Dr. Roman: “......This can’t be right. What happened, how can it have been malfunctioning like this the whole time….?! Is that the real Sir Bedivere there?! The observation results are faulty! There’s no saint graph resonance. Magic circuits too are on par with a human….I mean, that is just--- That is just a human being! That person there isn’t a Servant. He’s a normal human being like you!”
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Any chance we will know who the part 2 gacha servants are when datamine is up? Can't imagine DW being competent enough to not put something that reveals them in the files.
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>>151213538
That was really their fault, she told everyone she was going to do that and they went for it anyway
I know she's pretty and all but betting your life on a race against the known fastest runner in the country just to get some (evil) pussy is dumb
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>>151213731
eam wouldn't be enough to catch them all.
Julian is just putting the show like Illya when she says that her berserker is the strongest.
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>>151213731
>edgelord Issei is right about cards he shat out
WEW
E
W
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>>151213568
>I have no reason to believe
You have one, Julian. Oh and Shirou himself.

>>151213595
+ are always modifiers for an instant. Materials say nothing about them being permanent.
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>>151212839
Arthur looks like he was ready to fuck up Paracelsus days ago.
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>>151213731
>EAM.
The skill that lets him use weapons properly while he is mad?
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>>151213831
>D'on
The Godfather servants when?
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>>151212821
The anime changed it so instead of Heracles trying to avoid getting hit by it as he knew it could kill him he couldn't react in time after getting killed by Saber and lost another life. It wasn't shown in a satisfying way but it did happen.
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>>151213260
Given infinite tries even a 0.0001% possibility can happen. From what i remember Word of God said that even Ciel at her best would only be able to fight a defensive fight against an average servant. in another note he said that She's a few steps below Ciel so i don't see her winning consistently unless it's a weak assassin-class or she gets the drop on a low durabilty caster like medea.
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>>151213965
>J-Julian says
>I-Ilya says Berserker is strongest
>S-Shirou said when he never
JUST
U
S
T
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>>151213617
Except Hiroyama has already noted that Prisma's rules don't apply to the original work and that there are contradicting elements.

Being "canon" isn't some badge of quality anyways, so I don't know why people get so defensive about this in regards to Prisma but never any other spinoffs. It only affects meta discussion about the overarching universe, which shouldn't impact your enjoyment any unless you're fucking Melvin and want to shitpost about Sakuralot.
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>>151214080
She lost her first fight against a literal midget Assassin. In an embarrassing way at that. She died a lot.
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>>151213965
>Materials
Meme answer. It's permanent.
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>>151213932
>eam wouldn't be enough to catch them all
That's not what Shirou or Julian said. He can do it.

Unlike Illya, Julian is aware of the powers of both Shirou and the Gilgamesh card, and he had the upper hand the whole time.
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>>151213767
?
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>>151214212
ok
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>>151214029
I was hoping to see him actually looking dead. ;-;
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>>151213449
But that is Martha
Look at the swimsuit
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>>151214015

There at least needs to be an Al Capone servant.
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>>151212996
No, he has a limit, it was twice whatever Gilgamesh threw at him in Zero, 24, 30+ something like that, he only has two hands and they can only catch so much before he starts missing some and taking damage.

Cards and Prisma just work differently because they couldn't give two shits about canon or consistency with the rest of the world.
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>>151213965

>Materials say nothing about them being permanent.

Doesn't matter, the materials that defined how modifiers work came out years before CCC. Some are temporary or conditional boosts like Gawain's, but some function as permanent, like your player Servants in CCC when you level them high enough. I guess the implication is that the condition for the modifier being active can actually be so vague and broad that the modifier is always active.

For that matter, it means Berserker Lancelot's speed is probably always A+.
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>>151212713
I don't really mind them showing up in more stuff. It does kinda bug me when stuff like Emiya becoming the Moon Cell's representative of all unnamed heroes happens, but that's sorta justified since the war was modeled on Fuyuki's ritual anyway. Or even he shows up as some sort of senior hero in events of this game.

It's personal preference, but I liked the idea of him as a nobody, so seeing him being a somebody bugs me a little.
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>>151214259
Why is she so beautiful


Why
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>>151214137
>Solomon is wrong about Grands being superior to regular Servants
JUST
U
S
T
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>>151213731
>>151213932
>>151213965

You do understand that the reaction and movement speeds required for Lancelot to catch hundreds/thousands of swords all at once would be so high that Lancelot could easily just speedblitz every single Servant before they could even blink. It would be like that scene in Man of Steel where the Kryptonians go to town on poor US soldiers.

https://youtu.be/xqlaXylsMwQ?t=2m9s
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>>151214212
He might be aware of the powers, but that doesn't mean much. Nobody, not even Gilgamesh, certainly not Julian, knows everything in the Gate of Babylon. And it's called Unlimited Blade Works because it has unlimited blades in it.
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>>151213449
>People can't recognize Medea's hair color
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>>151214146
It's because Hiroyama is honestly a lazy fuck, it's like he didn't even try at all to make it fit canon.

Other spinoffs actually attempted it at least
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>>151214431
>Old lady Medea jumping around playing volleyball
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>>151212713
Can it be Gil instead, I'm sick of him being in every war and every spin-off.
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>>151214431
>implying that irrelevant shitter would get even this much spotlight
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>>151213449
>those ear rings

It's Martha and Cake you fools.
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>>151214296
>this shit again
Retconned, Iskander survived 80. The Act right after said Gilgamesh can't win if the other Servants don't deal with Lancelot first.
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>>151214259
She BETTER be in Part 2 I swear to god.
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>>151214317
You keep throwing around CCC

What you probably mean is Extra, when you level up servants with soul exchange thing in the Church.

Which really isn't an actual argument material.
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>>151213842
Was it ever confirmed that the Bedi we summoned is the one we go through the order with?
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>>151214317
>Some are temporary or conditional boosts like Gawain's, but some function as permanent, like your player Servants in CCC when you level them high enough
seriously? that's just gameplay
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>>151213449
That's Medea and Deon.
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>>151214317
I love how people that don't know Japanese keep referencing materials when there is no officially sanctioned translation, which means that any translation isn't actually trustworthy.
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Jelly?
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>>151212424
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>>151214410
yeah lancelot is the okita of saber
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>>151213449
>People saying is Cake
>No hat
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>>151214647
Actually, it's not. The leveling up in Extra is canon, and is meant to bring the Servants to their regular stats.

Nero's canon stats are all EX, for example.
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>>151212839
Arthur is standing in the dark, Paracelsus is standing in the light.

This was the last time they spoke about their mutual love of lolis.
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>>151214410
>You do understand that the reaction and movement speeds required for Lancelot to catch hundreds/thousands of swords all at once would be so high that Lancelot could easily just speedblitz every single Servant before they could even blink.
UBW is faster and it's only annoying against regular Servants. Servants have the speed, but lack the counter to the concepts of the Gate. Lancelot has the speed and concept to fight it.

>>151214417
He has seen Angelica in action and he still said what he did, same applies to Shirou telling Miyu to run despite her having the Gilgamesh card equipped.
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>>151214617
Yes, at the end of the Camelot story. Roman confirms that for some reason Bedivere was summonable now, and says its either because Arthuria doing something or because the world recognized him as a hero. Mashu is glad that he was saved

Originally he was supposed to be wiped from the cycle of rebirth and his soul would burn down to nothing as soon as he handed over Excalibur. However the world recognized him in that moment. Servants you get at the end of the order are recognized as canon I guess.
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>>151214146
>unless it's melvin
Or all the shitposters that go "fuck off prisma is not canon" everytime someone says something about it
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>>151214518
>he didn't read H/A
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>>151214617
The fact that he has the arm is a pretty straightforward indication.
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>>151214615

No, I mean CCC specifically, because there is no soul exchange and you just simply level them up to maximum possible parameters for each Servant, which is usually A+ for all except for one particular stat unless it's Gil then he gets A+ in every single stat. The stats themselves were A before you leveled them beyond that, and in-game they are above A and don't rely on any modifiers to be higher than that.

In Extra, Gawain explains that his + modifiers are conditional but never actually specifies what condition they're tied to so fuck him. In fact, we've never heard what any modifier's condition is, not on Noble Phantasms or stats.
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>>151214492
I wasn't talking about spinoffs like Apocrypha or Extra, but derivative works in general like say, Hana no Miyako, Carnival Phantasm, Chibichuki, etc.

People can still enjoy things even when they're "non-canon", all it means is that it doesn't apply if someone wants to talk about the mechanics of magic systems or what have you. Yet it's only Prisma that people seem to have autistic arguments about.
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>>151212620
>>151212839
>>151213098
Materials book when?
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>>151209542
Ko-Gil also says in his My Room lines (supposing they're correctly translated) that he already knows, but won't tell you.
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>>151214586
>>151214379
I pray for mine and fellow anons wallets when she's released
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>>151214993
Yet again, this is just gameplay elements you're pretending are arguments.
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>>151214937
I don't remember her hair being that long.
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>>151214859

No, the leveling in Extra is not canon, it's specifically hacking the Servant container to get the stats you want and you can just distribute them around as you please with no rhyme or reason.

The leveling in CCC however is canon because it follows a linear scale that reaches each Servant's normal parameters, then increases beyond that.
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>>151215030
actually what canon means is "if a writer wants to do anything official they have to consider these things true"

But even that's dubious really considering how often canon contradicts itself.
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>>151215052
cheeky
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>>151214890
Wasn't Bedivere from the normal universe summonable?
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>>151212620
Misaya is for _____
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>>151215030
Because Prisma tries to tell a serious story, and isn't just gags. That's why it's taken seriously as an installment in the Nasuverse and fails at it.
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>>151215241
dying
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>Attila the hun and her Dick Pillaging earn her a Chaotic Good on the canon Alighnment system
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>>151214949
>>151214890
That makes me happy
Hopefully this event gives us a grail so I can get him to level 90
He deserves it
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>>151215217
Seems not.
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>>151215071
I'm only going to roll for her if I get lucky and don't spend all of my quartz trying to get Anne and Mary.

Martha was my favorite new Servant from FGO until the pirates were released.
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>>151212784
Pepperoni was never evil. He was the spicy kind of good.
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>>151215291
>fails at it
How?
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The only thing Prisma is good for is Gil
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So why hasn't the Naruto author sued Nasu for ripping off his nine-tails character with Tamamo?
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is sakurai a chick
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>>151215217
If I'm not mistaken, Bedivere wasnt considered a Heroic Spirit because he really wasn't that special aside from being one armed and still good with his lance
He was a "Normal" human so to speak
Correct me if I'm wrong though
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>>151215560
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>>151215552
Some of the Gags are kinda fun.

>>151215571
Yes
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>>151212839
>Phil showing facial expressions other than shock, smugness, and somberness
It's almost like the world is coming to an end.
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>>151215560
It won't take long, he already sued ahri from this shit moba league of legends
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All this talk about canon or not canon, Nasu gives a shit about it or is just fatefags autism?
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>>151214867
Paracelsus tells him they should be raised properly, Arthur kills him because he just wants to fuck the loli.
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>>151215560
Dumb attempt at humor aside, I'm kinda surprised Fate hasn't done anything with Kaguya yet. She's Japan's oldest tale after all.
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>>151215740
I am Nasu.
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>>151215571
Maybe. Some colleague said it was a guy on his Twitter, but he deleted the post.
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>>151215740
autism.

Nasu will do whatever he wants. That's always how it'll be, it's just people trying to give themselves more ammunition to win internet arguments about their favourite character, like all the people who claim to have read materials.
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>>151215217
Yes. He was regarded as normal compared to the other knights but there is absolutely no reason he shouldn't be summonable.
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>>151215696
EVEN P-CHAN IS AFRAID
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>>151215772
Arthur is clearly the one who's up for reverse Hikaru Genji plan, though.
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>>151215909
p-chan?
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>>151215981
>reverse
Why did I write that? It doesn't make sense. Right, bedtime it is.
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>>151216001
Paracelsus
Phil

He goes by many-names
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>>151215696
>>Phil showing facial expressions other than shock, smugness, and somberness
Those are his best expressions
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>>151216001
Fuck off.
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Jinako/Roman are Nasu's self inserts
Julius is Hiroyama's self insert
Gordes is Higashide's self insert

who is sakurai's
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>>151216001
Pepechan
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>>151216219
Manaka?
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>>151216219
>Jinako/Roman are Nasu's self inserts
Rin too, at least in FSN.
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>>151216219
>who is sakurai's
Tesla.
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>>151216219
Tesla. She's REALLY attached to him.
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>>151216219
Manaka probably.
Evil, "likeable", sweet, is bored with all the shit and is connected to the root.
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It is taking all my willpower to resist swimsuit Lesbians / Martha / Kiyohime and keep saving for Semiramis, especially considering we will never have a chance to roll swimsuits again.
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>>151216329

So Nasu wants to be jackhammered?
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>>151216337
>>151216362
>"I don't know what a self insert is" the post
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>>151210856
Roman servants are mostly from real event so I was thinking of making another chart based on the real life characters, but it has few books as of now.
It would be useful if you knew something for this.

>>151211886
Also, I added the books by Ramesh Menon for Indian epics mentioned by some anon since they seem pretty nice and much shorter retelling of the stories based on what I could gather on internet.
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>>151216182
He can really rock that "black turtleneck, white robe" look. All sleek, shiny and minimalist. He's like an Apple product from the late 00's. Some sort of iMagus or something.
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>>151216439
Semi probably won't be limited.
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He's been around for so long and I still don't know what he actually does for the game
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>>151214817
So, Jeanne Alter is the best Servant to up to 100 ?
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>>151214395
>Solomon
>Julian is as reliable or remotely comparable to Solomon
WEW
E
W
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>>151216535
>iMagus
Added to the growing list of Phil's nick names
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>>151216556
That's Nasu.
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>>151216219
Saber is Takeuchi's waifu, but who is his self-insert? As the artist of the original pair, does he even have one?
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>>151216515
Fate Tesla is the same as Gahkthun Tesla, which truly was Sakurai's self insert.
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>>151216701
Gilgamesh
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>>151216439
Wait till we see their final ascension art tomorrow. Will make it that much harder to resist. I don't think I'll be able to hold out.
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>>151216631
She already has the best ATK in the game at natural max levels, and grailed is even higher.

Honestly I kind of take that as an indication that she DOESN'T really need to be grailed. It's overkill.
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I WANT TO FUCK THIS
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>>151216534
Thanks for doing this anon
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>>151213720
>She doesn't hold any regard for human life.
>Goes fucking batshit if you try to hurt kids
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>>151210856
>>151216534
This is the other chart right now.
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>>151216219
Touko is also a self insert for Nasu, in KnK.
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>>151216556
He's a host. He does live events for several game companies.
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>>151216806
children are parasites not humans
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>>151216765
That's immoral and wrong.

Go get your head cut off as punishment
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>>151216701
Nasu's self insert is Seibah and Takeuchi's self insert is Shirou, silly anon
Fate is their gay fantasy
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>>151216631
It was pretty obvious from a glance that she's the best choice for SSR due to her stats and 1.1 modifier.
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>>151216749

What if I want to see really big numbers ?
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>>151214817
Why is Herc S tier for getting up to 90 but doesn't even reach B tier for getting to 100?
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>>151216635
>Julian the one who has seen Angelica and Shirou in action is not a reliable source
>Shirou who has seen the power of the Gilgamesh card is not reliable
WEW
E
W
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>>151216727
That's bullshit, but I believe it.
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>>151216534
Add FSN for EMIYA
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>>151215696
There's also the rare and elusive embarrassed P.
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>>151216890
How can it be gay if Nasu is a woman?
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>>151216701
It's not Saber

>It's because she's a glimmering star just out of reach that she's beautiful. I couldn't call her my bride. Though for some reason I think Shielder from Grand Order would be the ideal bride.
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>>151216745
I have a bunch of alts that can roll for her, but that is obviously not the same

>>151216552
With my luck I'll need 1000 rolls to get her.
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>>151216765
abs not hard enough
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>>151217036
Ganbate anon, i know those kind of pains.
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>>151216916
If I have to guess, 2 Grails for a 1000 ATK/HP on a Berserker with high survavibility and damage is better than 7 Grails just for an extra 1000 stats bonus.
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>>151216945
>Gilgameme the one who has seen Angelica and Shirou in action is not a reliable source
>Shirou who has seen the power of the Gilgamesh card said what you said
JUST
U
S
T

FAKER

BTFO
T
F
O
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>>151216535
>iMagus
Added to the list.

Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim
Paracelsus
Dr Phil
Dr McDreamy
Dr Ladykiller
The Father of Toxicology
Poison Father
The Perfidious Physician
The Best Friend
The Lolicon who Dun Wrong
The Terrorist Dentist
The Meanest Dental Hygienist
The Angel of Minty Breath
The Heretic who Helps the Sick
The Backstabbing Quack
The Doctor with Dibs on the Knife between Your Ribs
The Clinician on a Mission
The Mortician Magician
The MD with a Traitor's Degree
iMagus
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>>151217176
DEL
ETH
IS
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>>151212424
>Jalterfags have to share the S tier with the best
>Heracucks only S if lvl 90
>Gilgameme nowhere to be see
BEST SERVANT
E
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S
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>>151216819
I would self-insert into Touko, if you know what I mean. And do you know what the best part is? Full customizable puppet vagina.

Puppet dick too, if you ever want to get a personal upgrade.
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>>151216993
FSN should be obligatory reading for everyone in this thread.
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>>151217069
What about now
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>>151216916
Herc's not worth it
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>QBC with evil cat
Is the amount of stars you can generate in one turn capped at 99?

>>151216534
You forgot Carmilla, who is a fictional character based off Elizabeth Bathory
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>>151217350
You would think so but it sure doesn't seem like it
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>>151217320
>Herc only needs to be 90 to be S tier
>Keksalot needs to be 100 to be S tier
>level 90 Herc=level 100 Keksalot
J U S T
U
S
T
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>>151217320
>gilshit is actually S without needing grail
hehe
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>>151216905
Then you would have gotten her up to 100 already with no regards to other people's opinions.
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>>151217365
Yes, this is the stuff
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>>151217350
Yeah you would fucking think, wouldn't you? Unfortunately, reality seems to have gone and proven that wrong every god damn time.
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Oh jeez.
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How can Scat welfare follow up the best welfare?
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>>151216631
Yes, bigger ATK is always better. However, most, if not all 5 stars aren't worth it to be grail ascended, it's better to ascend lower rarity servants because they have lower stats.
Ascending servants past level 90 is just too expensive.
This doesn't applicable to waifus, however.
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>>151216945
>implying Edgy Issei is comparable to Solomon
WEW
E
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>>151217424
Why does it even go above 50?
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How did Artoria get a last name like PepDragon?
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>>151217176
kek >>151211259

RUN Gilgamesh, RUN

t. Shirou
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>>151217536
with sex appeal

targetable quick buff and good star-gen please, that's all I want
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>>151217365
No.
We need to go harder.

>>151217398
Herc has his uses.

I sit him in the back as a last resort damage pool
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>>151217591
Her parents were delinquents
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>>151217591
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>>151217536
By having an AOE NP :^)
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So these guys here are fake ones right? They seem just as cancerous as the real one. JETS is confused if the real one ever left.
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>>151217536
As long as she has a ST NP with guaranteed stun, she'll be great.
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>>151217450
uhhh
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>>151216372
>Manaka
>likeable
I don't think she's likeable. In the story, I mean. Everyone who knows her is either afraid of her or they think she's a terrible person, typically a combination of the two. The exceptions are Ayaka, who's just as dumb as tweens are, and Hassan, who's so needy for company she'd willingly initiate a cuddling session with a zombie because she really just settles for what little she can get. Nobody actually likes her.
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>>151217580
Future update to let NPs crit if you have more than 50 stars when
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>>151217365
>>151216765
>Sexualizing the mode

She's for stabbing in the chest and sending to the wastelands
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>>151217591
>>151217717
>>151217730
Why is Nasu so shit at making names?
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>>151217450
>shitposter can't read Lancelor is also S tier while lvl 90
>he is also S tier for lvl 100
KEK
E
K

>>151217457
>not even 10.0 in the list
>as strong as 2 10.0 at lvl 100
WEW
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>>151217904
She'll have a ST NP with guaranteed charm
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>>151216631
She's worth it because she has so many damn multipliers, her having a higher attack means more than it first appears.
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>>151217796
>last day of anniversary
>mad as fuck for all the bullshit DW threw at us
>"ok I'll spend my remaining quartz, if I find something decent I'll remain"
>found JETS
>didn't touched F/GO since that day
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>>151217904
>>151217991
>Single target
Fuck off
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>>151217963
>Lancelor
Who?
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>already have my waifu saber
>keep rolling more 4* 5* sabers
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>>151217463
But I did
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>>151217424
GO Carmilla is adult Liz, not the fictional characte.
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>>151218053
>AoE
Fuck off

>>151218063
Daughter of Lancelot and Balor.
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Can he be a servant?
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>>151211627
Miyuverse Shirou only lost because Angelica used an Ainsworth technique

Basically if she only had her Gil Card there, she would lose
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>>151215592
They expected him and Galahad to show up when the Lion King summoned the Rounds, and Gawain wasn't surprised that he appeared in the order with his servant masking magic on. So he would probably be a heroic spirit normally, just a fairly unimpressive one.
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>>151217536
Star gen. That's all I need. The only really reliable dedicated star generators outside of limited Servants are Jack, Kotaro and Cursed Arm. We need a 4* one.

More specifically, I need a fucking star generator because I have an NP2 Sluts and Arjuna but fucking nothing to feed them with.
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>>151216631
Jeanne Alter AND Lancelot. Even when he is a 4* he matches the power of the best 5*.

If he was 5* he would be SSS tier.
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>>151217963
>the list
hehe
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>>151217424
If you wanna research Carmilla the GO character then all you really need to know about Carmilla the novel is that it's about a vampire girl and that it was likely inspired by the life of Elizabeth Bathory. Then you can pick up a biography about Bathory herself.
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>>151217635
>Miyu using half a card she just got & never used before
>Sakura experienced with her card
>Shirou injured & objective is to rescue Miyu so he wants her to leave
Stupid jetfags confirmed never read manga

WEW
E
W
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>>151218175
He's a Saint
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>>151217931
What is the crit damage increase once you get over the 10 stars per card ?

For exemple if a card get 17 stars it will be 100% chance to crit + 7*[bonus damage to crit]
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>>151218090
>his waifu is pikachu
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>>151218175
Gil already fills the niche of the character with a super insta-win move that the story has to have contrived reasons not to bring up from the get go.
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>>151218285
Kintoki does a great job for star gen.
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>>151218397
So you're saying he can be a ruler.
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>Saber Lancelot is better than Okita
Fuck, I should have rolled more
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>>151217536
Make her like Kintoki.
Literally lancer Scat but in the assassin class, also good star gen and NP gain.
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>>151218306
>Jeanne Alter AND Lancelot.

You have to use 2 more Grails for him to ba a match for Jeanne. And he can't NPBBC. He is also far behind in effective attack.

He is good, really good, but not Jeanne Alter.
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>>151218475
He's canonically weaker
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>>151218439
I think he means assassins anon
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>>151217920
There's something strangely disappointing for me about how Serenity's character mostly seems to revolve around her need for contact.
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>>151218285
>star generators
Are worthless. A good crit team uses CEs, NPs and skills to generate stars so you can buster chain every turn, not do garbage damage with quick cards.
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>>151218459
That image filename involving a character that was copypasted directly off Shura is just silly.
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>>151218285
This, I have lancer Scat and Mama, I really need someone to feed those busters
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>Prisma manga Angelica already hurl many weapons at Gilgameme
>Gil card is now underpowered
>Gil card was half of Gilgameme anyway
>Gil card is >50% of Gilgameme
>Gilgameme still wins & gets card back even though enemy has Kekalot
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>>151218475
no
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>>151218418
Then Riders start being liabilities to crit teams again if they get to absorb more than 10 stars
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>tfw you are as strong as the strongest 5*
>even when you are only a 4*
>as strong as the strongest but less cost
>tfw you realize DW made you 4* because you would be too strong if you were 5*
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What went wrong with Gawain?
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>>151218418
I thought % was for the CHANCE to crit and not the damage
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>>151218652
>50% of Gilgameme
You said it used to be half but now underpowered. This would be <50% not >50%.
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>>151218285
>He doesn't have a Kerrytugu who can generate stars as he uses his buster
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>>151218727
he is a weaker okita.
also he is art that's kinda shit
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>>151218439
Yes, but he's a Rider. He'll always eat a lot of the stars he produces.
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>>151217424
I don't really know if there is anything from the book Carmilla in GO Carmilla as I have still not read it.

I would like for someone that has read the book to clarify that honestly. Is there anything in GO from the book or is it a similar case to Vlad and Dracula?
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>>151218727
>needs tamamo and waver support to be good
J V 5 T
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>>151218551
He isn't supposed to NPBBC but NPAAC.
Jeanne Alter's gimmick is to do a really big damage NPBBC with her third skill, Lancelot's is to spam NPs and arts crits.
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>>151218767
It is, we are talking about overfeeding a card to increase the crit damage.
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>>151218643
First of all yes i know my joke is fucking sick.
Second of all if you have even watched saint seiya you know full well they copy paste the same design onto gold saints.
>>
What do you guys think Nasu actually looks like?
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>>151218729
He trusted Lancelot and he suffered because of it.
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>>151218956
A mushroom
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>>151218618
This. And that's why Raikou and her 300k+ crits will always have a spot on my team.

I've only ever saw Jeanne Alter or Saber Gilles criting harder than her
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>>151218551
They are both S rank senpai. He is as good as she is.

>>151218825
Okita isn't S rank and can't even 1 shot Liz.
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>>151218956
It's right there when you google his name
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>>151218807
><50% not >50%
>this helps your point
WEW
E
W

Stupid jetfag doesn't know that Gilgameme card was even weaker then. Even the King of Jobbers was nerfed yet Kekalot couldn't beat him. Try finding a new non-shit servant like Tristan who is better than Solomon.
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>>151218956
Short, wider at the top, covered with spots and commonly found in humid dark areas.
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>>151219024
lancelot can't either without cheatapk or buffs from other servants.
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>>151218729
Why did he lie to Agravain and Arthuria about the true nature of the refugees that got away? He was more than willing to die for his disgrace, but even then he wouldn't reveal the truth to save himself.
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>>151218878
>He isn't supposed to NPBBC but NPAAC.

A fucking waste of crits and damage. He will never reach Jeanne Alter damage with this.
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>Lancememers
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>>151218618
>so you can buster chain every turn
Literally impossible to generate enough stars for that with three BBBAQ servants.
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Reminder to leave all the shitposting in the last thread
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>refund went through
I feel dirty.
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>>151219136
>lancelot can't either
He is S for a reason
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>>151214395
>Da Vinci is wrong about Tristan being strongest threat Mashu met yet
WEW
E
W
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I think we can all agree that /tv/ was a mistake
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>>151214878

That's not how it works. Heracles, Arturia etc can defend against individual shots of GoB fairly easily but when 100 are fired at them all at once neither of them have the reaction speed to deflect every projectile and will get hurt.

As far as simply defending against GoB/UBW goes, EAM is actually not much effective than any Servant who has the martial skill to use their own weapon to deflect the fired NP. The true power in EAM is that Lancelot can catch that NP and use it to its full potential as a fighting weapon. There is nothing in EAM's abilities that magically boosts Lancelot's movement capabilities by hundreds of times to automatically let him catch weapons from GoB/UBW, he still has to physically move around on his own. If he can't catch it in time, he's still going to get hit. Hence why there's no reason to believe Lancelot can manage much more than Heracles who is his equal physically. Honestly Lancelot's high parameters probably played more of a row in defending against GoB than EAM, EAM just gave him extra style points by grabbing shit out of the air.

>>151218210
Angelica was also half naked from the waist up when full Golden armour could likely take the blow and didn't even try to use Enkidu to bind Shirou
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Is CAlter Best Berserker?
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>>151219024
>He is as good as she is.

How ? He has less attack, can't NPBBC, has less buff, no invulnerability and require 2 more Grail to reach 100.
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Okay, what are these /tv/ memes doing here? JETS is confused where this "Melvin" guy is from. JETS misses the days when JETS spent all day destroying Gilfags. Those were actually fun.
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>>151219359
HERKek a best
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>>151219136
>buffs from other servants
I love how people bring this up as if there's ever an instance you aren't maxing out a servants attack as much as possible
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>>151219246
>buffs from other servants
my sentence wasn't that long, you could have read the whole thing even if you're melvin.
Also this S from a memelist means that he is good to use grail on.
it's stupid to use grail on Okita since she will get only 1000 atk from it, she is already perfect.
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>>151219449
well then it's pointless to say "this servant can kill x but y can't."
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>>151219436
I'm so sorry you have to see this, JETS.
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>>151219347
Did you really need confirmation?
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>>151219019
What other servants do you use with Raikou that get her to hit that hard?
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JETS thinks we've hit the bump limit. What shall the next thread be? Hopefully better than this one.
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>>151219449
Then how the fuck can you argue that okita is weaker when she has gone on record and one shotted liz for more than 1m with buffs from other servants.
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Lancelot has a lower grail bar because his first two are 5 levels.

Alter is so ridiculously strong that using grails on her is worth it from the starting point of two levels a pop.
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>>151215071
Martha will likely be in Part 2. I'd roll for her.

>>151215358
I always thought Martha was cute. She's another one of those servants I never managed to pull (but I can't recall when she was ever part of a rate up).
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>>151219348

>Enkidu
>Biding someone with no divinity

Shirou would just break with his multiple swords

>Armor meme

As far as I know Gil doesn't has a helmet and UBW completely overwhelms him

The only reason Angelica won was because of her Ainsworth abilities

If anything Prisma proved that someone like Gil is helpless in UBW
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>>151219579
>any servant with the same buffs can do that damage too
AHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING IDIOT
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>>151212620
Misaya's got some freakishly red eyes. It feels wrong in some sense.

>>151212839
This actually looks kinda cool. Arthur looks like he's gonna salt the earth.
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Clown is cute.
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what servant deserve more doujin?
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>>151219765
> Angelic using a Class Card
> comparable to the actual Heroic Spirit Gilgamesh

I laugh.
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>>151219348

Arturia said in F/Z that in her best form she could easily handle 1000 GOB gates

In Fate, due to her nerf, she can only handle a hundred
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>>151219778
imbecile, you need some reading comprehension
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>>151218836
The vampiric aspect of Carmilla was popularized by the novella. Other than that, GO tries to cement their Carmilla as just an adult Liz
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>>151219765
>UBW completely overwhelms him
>Prisma Shirou can project divine constructs
>regular UBW can't
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>Gilles fanfic character is the strongest
>not even an actual hero at any point
fatefags????
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>>151219348
>but when 100 are fired at them all at once neither of them
Objectively wrong. Shirou Saber dodged hundreds increased 2 times during Fate route.

Cu survived a barrage of at least 1000 for 12 hours, while nerfed by his Master and a CS.

>Hence why there's no reason to believe Lancelot can manage much more than Heracles who is his equal physically
Lancelot was able to easily deflect the weapons of the Gate while Heracles wqs getting repelled. Skill made his strikes stronger than Heracles' strikes. Skill allowed him to deflect a weapon so clearly in a flash that it was said to be impossible by either miracle or skill.

UBW is faster than GoB, but is not as good because it lacks the conceptual power of the Gate. Spam and numbers are irrelevant, as confirmed by UBW being only annoying against the average Servant (far weaker than the likes of Cu, Lancelot, Heracles and others), what makes the Gate strong are the concepts, and Lancelot has the NP to counter that.
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>>151212839
Didn't he say something about how he could handle a knight class servant with his NP?
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>>151219873
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>>151219654
Double waver + nightingale, maxed battle suit and buster buff on her + maxed Bath CE

This is without mystic killer too, on servants or enemies that trigger the damage from that skill she can hit way higher - thing is there aren't many that it's useful for
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>>151219913

Yes, if it was Gil he would have lost like he did in UBW

Only reason Angelica won was because of her special Ainsworth magic making so she was able to put some distance to use EA
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>>151220032
>Lancelot was able to easily deflect the weapons of the Gate while Heracles wqs getting repelled.

Fairly confident that scene makes mention of protecting Illya being a strong factor.
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>>151218175
No, he's ridiculously powerful just like every other Saint Seiya character.
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>>151220032
The command spell was no longer in effect
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>>151220047
Surely there will be some from c90, just gotta hope they get scanned
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>>151219916
> in her best form
They can't do that as Servants though. The actual Heroes are all so far beyond the Servant vessels it's ridiculous to compare.
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>>151220032
>Cu survived a barrage of at least 1000 for 12 hours, while nerfed by his Master and a CS.
>Protection from Arrows
>Battle Continuation
Though one wonders why didn't Gil just use Enkidu to bind Cu like in the anime
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I never use Mashu. Can someone who does use Mashu tell me:
Does Mashu use her sword in her animations at her latest ascension?
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>>151220032
Are you actually comparing Gil thworing a few swords at Lancelot to his fight with Herc?
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>>151217580
Part of it is because before the Okeanos update it was possible for stars to continue to stack on a card past 100% crit chance.
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>>151220240
No, you might expect it in a future sprite animation update though.
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>>151219580
Do not worry, JETS has seen worse. It's just this is getting rather out of hand. Why are people discussing Prisma anyway? The Class Cards there aren't identical to the regular servants. Herakles, for example, was said to be degraded over time & thus the weaker God Hand. This is the same for the Hundred Face Hassan who apparently duplicates instead of the multiple personalities.
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>>151220053
>maxed Bath CE

You can go with maxed Knight's Pride for maximum glass canon.
>>
What did we do to deserve reddit
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>>151219984

>Divine weapons

They don't really matter because UBW just completely and utterly overwhelms GOB without giving Gil a chance to think properly by attacking his ego directly

Angelica managed to put some space because of her special magic and that's why she won
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>>151220240
No, because she still uses the same animations from her second form.
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>>151219136
>lancelot can't either
>without cheatapk

I don't know anon, haven't seen one of those in quite a while.
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>>151220094
Makes me wonder why Shirou didn't just immediately tsunami swords Angelica from the very start. It would have probably just instantly win him the battle.
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>>151220138
>>151220138
>>151220138
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>>151220379
fgo
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>>151219913
She is stronger. Her combinatiom of the Gate with Ainsworth magic makes her much stronger than anything Gil has shown to date with the Gate.

>>151219916
Her Zero form could handle 1000 easily if she was uninjured. At peak with Rin she can do better.

>In Fate, due to her nerf, she can only handle a hundred
Hundreds, increased 2 times. GoB spam is overrated by Giltards but they believe Gilgamesh is a Galaxy Buster so why even bother.
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>>151219963
But are we talking about making adult Elizabeth the Carmilla of the book or ignoring completely the book aside from being a vampire?
Because it will make the difference.
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>>151220438
Without cheat apk, not with.
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>>151220032
>Cu survived a barrage of at least 1000 for 12 hours, while nerfed by his Master and a CS.
We don't actually know what exactly happened during those 12 hours. Cu and Gilgamesh were occupied with each other for 12 hours and that's just about it. They may have taken a break for 11 hours and 45 minutes to get drunk and and yell meandering exposition at each other.
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>>151220032
>Shirou Saber dodged hundreds increased 2 times during Fate route
After your screenshot, & a scene with Shirou, it later said
>They move without Gilgamesh touching them and they aim at Saber.
>The weapons, whose handles were only visible before, all show blades now and await their master's order.

Only the handles were previously visible. Either Gilgamesh fired them handle-first or he didn't fire them at all, instead reaching & using them one by one.
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>>151220219

By her best form I meant her best form as a servant


>>151220394

She would have just used her displacement magic earlier

Also best strategy to use UBW against someone like Gil is engage in meelee while making UBW cancelar GOB
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>>151220358
I actually have a maxed Knight's Pride but I was wondering if the 1000attack I have on Bath vs the 500ish on KP would make her somehow hit for less. Also the stars on Bath come in handy which is my main reason for using it
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>>151220550
> Galaxy Buster
Oh, you're one of those types.
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>>151205535
>remiyax v5
what, fucking nice
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>>151220449

The second reply here >>151220816
was meant to you

I quoted the wrong post
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>>151220438
that's with cheatapk, autist.
But maybe you don't have him yourself so you don't know.
That would explain the 4chan filename.
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>>151220550

Yes, you are right
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>>151220243
The fight with Herc has no actual number stated. It could be as low as 10 as far as we know.

>>151220227
Read PoF effect. It doesn't make him immune to arrows. He is still limited to his physical capabilities to dodge and deflect weapons.

>>151220112
Yeah he was getting fucked because of Illya, but that has nothing to do with his sword was being repelled by the Gate while Lancelot was easily deflecting everything. This implies Lancelot was hitting harder than Heracles in order to avoid his weapon getring repelled by the force of the GoB.
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>>151220718

Don't be dumb, Gil sending them one by one is dumb when he can control them mentally
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>>151220718
Can confirm that said quote is from the VN. It seems Gil has been having swords knocked out of his hand every now & then but never made it rain swords at that moment.
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>>151221436
>his implies Lancelot was hitting harder than Heracles in order to avoid his weapon getring repelled by the force of the GoB.
This is an interesting headcanon but it's objectively wrong due to their stat pages. Unless Herk was holding back, which is possible for fear of injuring Illya, they hit for either the same or Herk at advantage due to A and A+ Strength.
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>>151221674
>>151221436
Where did you get these shitty screenshots?
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>>151221547
>Gil sending them one by one
He didn't. Previously Gil had been facing Saber with swords in hand, not firing them off all the time. He doesn't always GoB spam it seems.
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>>151220684
Gilgamesh was stated to have started with "a thousand swords".

And Cu entry mentions how dealing with Gil for 12 hours despite all his disadvantages is quite a good feat.

>>151220718
Correct, but read what happened after. Gilgamesh reveals the blades (same number), then increased the Gate 2 times, then fired his entire load at C AGI Saber. Saber dodged all of it, but she was out of breath and in a bad position after she was done, but Gilgamesh had a new barrage of 47 ready, which managed to hit her.
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Sooner or later, the thread will be archived. JETS is waiting patiently for the next thread. JETS is starting to question why JETS doesn't make one himself.
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>>151222154
The next thread is up. Slip silently from this one without drawing their attention lest they follow.
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>>151221690
>wrong due to their stat pages
Not at all. At base they have the same rank at A, Heracles can only temporarily surpass that. However Lancelot has skill, which allows the power of each strike to increase.

See Karna vs Siegfried. The fact is, somehow Lancelot was hitting harder, my explanation for that is EAM. But yeah at the end of the day it's headcanon. But the fact that Lancelot was hitting harder is undeniable.
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Reminder that Gil too is a Saberfag. He wanted Saber to be his wife.
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>>151222142
>Gilgamesh reveals the blades (same number), then increased the Gate 2 times, then fired his entire load at C AGI Saber. Saber dodged all of it, but she was out of breath and in a bad position after she was done
>desperate jetfag says this
WEW
E
W
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>>151222519

And????

Gil wanted Saber to be his property, right but he was fighting more seriously than he did against Shirou in UBW
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>>151222513
>However Lancelot has skill, which allows the power of each strike to increase.

I don't strictly think that's true in the sense you're using. Skill lets Karna do more damage through Armor of Fafnir, but that's not necessarily a display of increased physical power like you're implying.
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>>151222958
If Lancelot's connection to Arturia and Mashu respectively is relevant ("I wanted to be punished" and recognizing Galahad respectively) then Gil's repeatedly stated intent to not kill Saber is pretty fucking relevant don't you think?
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>>151223139

No? He pulled freaking EA (a big deal) against her and would kill her if she continued to refuse his offer
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>>151223374
And Lancelot was willing to kill Saber and actively tried to do so and would have had she not defended herself.

Unless he had reached the point of being willing to kill her when he was shooting swords then it's relevant, because he might choose to not aim to kill, fire them slower, fire less destructive weapons.
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>>151222964
The reason why Karna was doing what he was doing was because his physical attacks all are A ranked despite having B STR. This was thanks to skill.

Before reqsing Apocrypha I thought it was maybe because Lancelot was using NPs instead of a rock, but Apocrypha made it clear that NPs rank is irrelevant unless the NP is activated.

>>151222860
>shows screenshots from the VN proving my point
>y-you are desperate!
kek
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>>151223630

Do you not know Gil's personality?

If he was serious enough to pull EA what makes you think he was doing something like slowing down GOB? When such thing was never said in the VN?
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