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died >>150964539

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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yorshka > priscillafat
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The Twin Axes and the Drang Hammers are the most fun and non casual weapons in the game
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>>151023970

DaS1's was like a year. DaS2's were rushed and originally built up on cut content and were in development prior to release (Shulva was a core place in the game, see design works on how it was to be under Amana and the dragon murals.

6 months for BB expansion DLC. 6 months between each DaS3 expansion is pretty cool.
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>go to NG+
>forgot to farm for candlestick
Anyone on PC got a spare "another essential item for magic to be viable" they could drop me?
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>>151024383
>the retard eyes on this face capture stuff

simply the best
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>>151024383
Lothric impersonation?
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>mfw the maneaters fight

I took out one of them and nearly killed the second on on my first try before getting knocked off the edge. Now I can't even come close to killing either without either falling off or getting gangbanged.

I'm using a Falchion+4 with 20 dex, and I feel like I'm doing fuck all damage. Shall I put this boss to one side and come back when I'm a bit stronger? I'm kinda autistic in that I want to finish the archstone I'm on before moving onto the next, otherwise I feel like I'm procrastinating. I've fully beaten the first two.

Also, what is with the pacing of this game? I've only clocked 6 hours playtime so far and have already beat Flamelurker and fought Maneaters. Since these bosses are the legendarily difficult ones I figured they'd be lategame, not some of the first bosses you can come across.
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>>151024328
scholar or clerics candlestick? can drop you one, just tell me where i should put my sign
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>>151024328
Yeah I think I have one ,high wall pass dsg yeah?
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>>151024563
I'm at high wall, thanks
>>151024551
you people are too kind
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>>151024501
Some of the more difficult bosses in souls have always been midgame anon, see O&S and Pontiff
dunno about BB, i think Rom or shadows is the 'gear check' there?
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>>151024426
>>151024431
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ENOUGH. aren't they gonna announce the DLC??? Someone should do something! post about it on r*ddit tell them to do something.
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>>151024315
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>>151024701
could you also help me transfer my darling great sword between saves anon
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>>151024705
Flamelurker was the 4th boss I fought, not really midgame. I don't feel like I got to him too early either as I found him to be pretty easy, reminded me of a slower wolf-gascoigne. I actually found Armored Spider to be more of a challenge.
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>>151024563
thanks kind anon
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>>151024950
Sorry could you help me transfer the firelink sword please
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>>151024939
>80 sec fucking post timer
yeah go ahead and switch accounts whatever
just remember to have a +4 weapon on your other character
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>>151025016
you guys should add each other so theres no post timer
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>>151025016
OK thanks
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>>151024501
>lategame
You can choose to play the worlds in almost any order after Phalanx so the real "lategame" is Boletaria 1-3. Pretty much like Dark Souls 3 as well except in DS3 you're shoehorned into a linear corridor.
>first level of Demon's Souls is a mandatory castle
>returns you into the same castle environment but harder for the endgame
>same for DS3.
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>>151025098
Thats a souls-standard at this point really, the last boss can be found in area you've been before or is accesed through one of the early areas
>1-3 leads to 1-4
>Firelink leads to Kiln
>Drangleic castle leads to Throne
>Hunters Dream leads to that one garden patch
>Firelink leads to Kiln(again)
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can someone tell me why i cant find Karla in firelink?
i freed her from her cell and shes not here...
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>>151025407
She's left of the blacksmith below an arch under the steps
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>>151025098
You can, but it's pretty obvious they wanted you to do Stonefang Tunnel after Boletaria. I guess the idea was to beat a boss in one of the worlds, then move onto the next? I didn't really feel a noticeable difficulty spike in Stonefang, but I'm definitely feeling it with the Maneaters.

Also, I love the goofy 1950s monster movie vibe this game has sometimes. Not what I was expecting at all, but I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTT4di20FtU
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>>151025502
nothing, i didnt even kill heror interact yet besides the jail room. i do have cornyx here so does that change things?
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>skyrim- no spears
>dragon's dogma- no spears
>witcher- no spears
>souls- can dual wield spears

why are spears so uncommon in action RPG's?
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>>151025641
Once you talk to her and accept her services she should appear in firelink
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Which Soulsborne girl has the smelliest pussy?
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>>151024705
You could always do some stuff before the fight. You can clear most of the late game before fighting most of those, although I don't think BB has a hard early mandatory boss.
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?
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>>151025981
probably maiden astraea. living in a swamp that gives you the plague and all cant smell good
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>>151026054
Madmen have to kill the host or X amount of phantoms to fullfill their task, once they do that they get sent back automatically
the 'something' is a sheckle
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How do I beat King Allant

He keeps doing SSS combos on me as if the game is fucking dmc

And he deleved me 11 times already
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>>151026215

The real Demon's Souls starts here!
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>>151026054
tfw no treasure hunter covenant that has you invade peoples worlds and find a randomly placed treasure, but the host can kill you for said treasure
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The Chinese had some real cool ass weapons, shame we never saw any in souls
What are the chances they'll appear in the DLC?
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>>151026816
>chinese weapons
>in a japanese game
0%
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>>151026215
You can cheese him by always gaining distance so he does the dash attack with gigantic recovery. Then hit 1-2 times for it and back off again. Can also use thise openings for grass
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>>151026816
First one is basically exactly like the regular spear, and the one in the middle is pretty close to the Black Knight Glaive. The others are almost a bit TOO exotic looking, honestly.

On another note, it's a shame that you never have any reason to come back through the High Wall area during the eclipse, as it has a really nice atmosphere when everything is darkened. Almost feels like Bloodborne.
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>>151026816
I want some kind of kanabo, preferably not with a mace moveset.
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>>151025964
FUCKING NORMIES DONT LIKE SPEARS
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>>151026816
I want some Zhao Yun ass moveset for the spear and make it bendy and shit.
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>>151025964
Because game designers know that thrust based weapons are the best and most overpowered broken shit

when a weapon stabs at you, you have no real way to gauge it's depth and distance. You're essentially looking at a point moving backwards and forwards towards you.

IRL, I'd main a spear over any other weapon.

Fromsoft then went the extra mile, of making defence shit against thrust, and then included a ring to increase JUST thrust damage, as if the weapon type needed any help inflicting damage.

It's a fucking rought. Where's my god damn strike counter damage ring? Oh that's right Miyazaki's a massive faggot.
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You know what would be cool? The ability to throw knives like the anime skeletons in carthus catacombs. Please fromstofmar Carthus desert DLC
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>>151027281
They should let you charge attack consumables.


You hold the butotn down and you throw like 3 firebombs at once, 5 knives etc.
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>>151027132
Another angle, because I'm bored waiting for Darkmoon summons

>>151027251
>IRL, I'd main a spear over any other weapon.

You and everyone with a brain. Basically everyone carried some form of spear or polearm into medieval combat, with a backup on their hip. Unless they were an archer, of course.
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>>151027281
I'd rather have those pursuer grenades
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>>151027251
>strike
Useless unless against skeleton. You guys can just grab a fucking tree, there's no finesse in your art. You already deal enough damage as it is, though I suppose that damage could be increased by a tiny bit since you're such crybabies. You don't even dance like a fairy when doing a running attack, fuck off. No tact at all.
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>>151027338
That's fucking retarded.

I love it.
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>>151024383
>anime thumbnail
>more anime thrown out across the video
disgusting
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>>151027442
I don't even want to think about how those aren't in the game.
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>>151027538
>complaining about anime in a thread about an anime game
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>>151027470
Skeletons aren't even fucking weak to blunt, just resistant to everything else
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>>151027758
>in a thread about an anime game
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>>151027778
they get dismantled at least, and what you said is essentially the same thing. Makes blunt needed, though it actually isn't since you can just hit more times and kill the skelly.
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>>151027838
>implying dark souls isn't the official berserk game
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>very slim body
>dragon form
you look like a damn twig
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>>151028004
well you are one
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>SL78, doing 66STR build in progress
>34STR 2H FUGS 572 AR
>Decide to do pontiff duels
>3-shot everyone
Get fucked dexfags
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Pretty neat that the eclipse is grey in this one spot outside of the Abyss Watchers fight. Wonder if there are any other spots like it.
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What SL should I be at after I've killed all the LoC and the Dancer?
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>>151028061
STR is only good at lower levels.
At 75 i'm fucking murdering people with STR build.
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>>151028171
It's grey because the very air in that area is filled with poison and smoke.
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>>151028221
I still am at both 100 and 120 though
Its just a matter of being even more aggressive from what i've seen
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Fuck I can't seem to beat Defiled Amygdala.
If only there was a way to cheese her, and an anon good enough to show me how to do it...
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What weapon looks good with this beautiful set? Smelter Sword requires a lot of stat investment.
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>>151028342

You gavwe up on looking good the moment you put this on
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>>151028179
50-60
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>>151028342
Looks like something straight out of WoW or some MMO lmao.
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What is the "Saddler... You're small time." of Dark Souls?
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>>151025964
Because you can animate cool, flashy moves for swords but spears are seen as plain, common folk weapons instead of "hero" weapons.
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Frost is a gimmick, what the hell was who ever came up with this status effect even thinking?
>takes a small ammount of health
so does a r1 from a dagger
>lowers defences
probably useful if you are one of those guys who want so see how much damage they can deal with one hit
>slows down stamina regen
completely useless in pve since every non-human enemy (99% basically) has infinite stamina. On top of that there are 5 weapons that cause frostbite and no resins or spells whatsoever.
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>>151028793
every human enemy has infinite stamina as well
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>>151028858
Not true, I've shield broken a dude after he attacked many times when normally his guard would not break
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>>151028858
I meant "human enemy" as in npc's that have the same model as the player. Like havel for example.
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>>151028342
>a lot of stat investment
>20 STR 10 DEX

???
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>>151028793
Cryomancy DLC soon though
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>>151028507
That's DS2 designs in general. Westernized to a point they look like some blizzard shit.
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Anyone else here always calls crystal sage the crystal 4channer?
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>>151029063
Need INT and FTH for fire damage, also some extra VIT for the weight. The sword noclips through the helm anyway.
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>>151024221
fashion designers please go and stay go
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>>151029274
i call him Ohmm mOOHoh muh
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>>151029336
>scaling in ds2
>worth shit
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>>151029274
why?
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>>151029364
OOHnn OH SELAM
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>>151029409
>this meme again
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>>151024221
Which would win in a fight in a pool of oil?
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>>151029445
>S scaling weapons gains 40 damage from 25 to 40 in damage stat
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>>151029471
Everyone
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>>151029445
It's not a meme. Scaling is bad and inconsistent in Dark Souls 2. While in 1 and 3 C & C means decent quality, in Dark Souls 2 means it's better as raw.
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>>151029336
>Need INT and FTH for fire damage
Not really

It would help but just with 40 STR 10 DEX it still hits like a monster truck
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who is best waifu and why is it Karla?
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>>151027838
>those big ass ugs
>flippy cs/WKGS/FGS moves
>katanas that cut through space and time
>not anime
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>>151029550
And they never fucking fixed it, not even in SOTFS.
Even DS1 fixed elemental weapons being better than physical scaling ones in less than a year.
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What is the most important physical defense type to raise? Standard and thrust?
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>>151029428
Sage can be understood as "someone of great wisdom", but on 4chan it usually means to reply to a thread without bumping it. There is no hidden meaning or anything like that, it was just the word itself that made me do this connection. Ok?
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>>151029698
slash and thrust
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>>151029734
Oh right
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>>151029698
Thrust. Always thrust.

But don't bother, even with high defenses when you're attacking it goes down like water in the drain. Even with high as fuck defenses you get like -12 absorption (which means you take 12% more damage) during attack recovery frames, just when the estoc hits you.
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>>151029550
You're not even trying to lie.
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Sometimes I feel CCS has better range than Claymore.
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>>151029826
Ok then go and waste your stats to "improve" your scaling you stubborn fuck.
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>>151026816
BKG
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>>151029901
It's probably as large as a bastard sword which is shorter than the claymore, but there's also the difference in attack animations.
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>>151029819
I have 27 thrust absorbtion, but when I attack it reduces to 5. Strange, because when I attack while naked my thrust absorbtion reduces to -30.
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>>151029826
Look at the formula of scaling calculation in DS2 and say that he's lying you fucking retard.
You need 99 STR and S scaling STR weapon to get at least 200 bonus damage from scaling. It's so utterly fucked up on every single level it's not even funny.

Meanwhile in actually good game.
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>>151029550
>C C scaling in DS2
>makes you assume that both C's scale the same
>the game basically flat out fucking lies to you because DEX C is about half as much as STR C
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>>151029913
I always did and I always laughed at people using elemental damage.

>>151030065
Now post that without your gems, idiot.
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>>151029734
the two "sage"s are different. you do realise 4chan's sage is pronounced sa-geh while crystal sage is seyj, right?
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>>151030181
Yeah, I know. Forgot to mention that.
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>>151030181
>>151030292
I know this too.
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>>151030110
>Now post that without your gems
Why should i? It's a part of an upgrade system. It's like asking to post uninfused +0 weapons in other souls games.
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>>151030110
>another retard doesn't know that SOTFS capped elemental defense on 75% making elemental weapons always strong compared to anything else
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>>151030181
>>151030292
>>151030349
I too am aware of this.
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>>151030434
Oh no. I'm only going to be 85% immune to your elemental weapon when including physical defense while you'll be immune to merely 10% of my rock solid physical weapons.
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>>151030527
Elemental-infused weapon with robflynn slapped on top of it will rival the damage of your physical scaling weapon regardless with way less points in offensive stats and more in vigor and endurance, and with added bonus of chipping through the shields.
Learn the current DS2 meta, then try barking at someone.
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>>151030681
It will rival the AR. Not the damage. Not while 75% immunity is a thing.

But then you people are retards trying to push that scaling isn't worth it in DaS2, so none of you know what you're talking about.
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>>151030759
Bros kiss?
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>>151029580
>a woman you can't marry
At least pick Anri. She's a perfect waifu/husbando.
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>circle strafing waiting for each other to initiate the first move until Christ's second coming

I hate this episode.
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>>151030817
>make female character
>find out that Anri changes to a male
>ywn be able to expirience forbidden love with anri
DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPED
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>>151030839
become the mad man
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>>151030795
>It will rival the AR. Not the damage
No, it will rival the damage while having a lot more total AR. There's a reason tryhard ds2 degenerates almost exclusively swapped to elemental robflynn setups for their SL150 builds. Nothing else is even remotely comparable to them with the exception of estoc turtles.
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>>151030065
Dawn the Bloodborne UI is so fucking stylish
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>>151030975
>that forced heterosexuality

Why, it should be random
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>>151031023
Please provide conclusive proof of this against a high element defense enemy or player.

The meta is not always right. Gouging VIG doesn't actually get you much when you're doing 200 at most a hit.
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>>151030975
why does it matter? the only penetration to be expected involves the sword of avowal
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>>151031146
What are you talking about?
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>>151030975
Do what I did and make a trap.
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>?just got summoned to a world as blue sentinal

>three red phantoms and a lone lost

>killed all 3 reds, 3 concords with my drang hammers

old wolf curvey + pontif ring and carthus beacon makes this shit turn into a grinder
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>>151031220
you don't know?
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>>151029662
>And they never fucking fixed it, not even in SOTFS.
It doesn't need fixing because it was an intentional decision. It means that high-level PVP is viable with Soul Memory. If scaling worked like in the other games, and you were invaded by someone with the same SM but much higher SL, they'd have a huge advantage.
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>>151031365
Don't know what?
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>>151031220
Praise the Moon.
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>>151031108
I'm not going to reinstall a shit game only to show you the damage values again. Look with what builds typical DS2 tryhards were rolling with before the game has died.
>meta is wrong, i'm right
It doesn't work this way buddy.
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>>151031442
What is that?
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>>151031474
You would defend literally anything, no matter how wrong it is, just to shit on Dark Souls 2.
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>>151031413
Just another example of how hard soul memory fucked DS2 over.
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Post big guys with big weapons!
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>>151031442
>can't get that keysword as a weapon

Bunch of faggots, especially when they did it in das2

Ironically probably would've been the only weapon with dark damage on it in the game
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>>151031427
oh anon, why did you come here then? here is only pain
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>>151031556
Ogrum looked 3x more menacing and 3x more big than you. You should learn from him how to fashion big.
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>>151031551
I hate soul memory. It ruined Dark Souls 2 for me.
>mfw did most of the game with the agape ring because I was scared of getting too much souls and not having anyone to play with

>>151031565
What? I've been promised a cute marriable waifu, and she's dead?
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>>151031556
Nigga you can't even walk in that
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>>151031474
>1013 dmg on a left hand

What?
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>>151031545
I don't really need to defend something "wrong" to show how incredibly horrifying DS2 was. Objective facts are more than enough. And pathetic physical scaling, overpowered elemental base damage, robflynn adding almost full damage bonus to them and elemental defense cap in SOTFS are objective facts.
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>>151028342
>I Do Anal Only: The Set
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>>151031640
Dark weapon dark infused chaos blade.
Enjoy a balanced meta.
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>>151031602
>Ogrum
Literally who?
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>>151028342
>that lewd navel
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>>151031736
>20/20 INT/FTH gives 1k dmg on a Dark weapon

Lets just never talk about DS2 again
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>>151031646
>objective facts
Where?
>pathetic physical scaling
+250 physical is pathetic? 500 solid physical longsword is pathetic? Funny.
>overpowered elemental base damage
You forget how high base damage on physical weapons. Could go up to 400.
>almost full
Yet it's not. And it's split. And element defense is % negation, super easy to stack.
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>>151031551
It's a shame the BoB arena never caught on, because that had SL matchmaking. It would've been pretty good if the PVP community wasn't playing the game wrong and sperging out on the Iron Keep bridge.

>>151031610
>getting too much souls and not having anyone to play with
That doesn't really happen. Joining Sunbros extends the range, wearing the same Name-Engraved Ring as the person you want to co-op with extends the range. You can be millions of SM apart and still co-op.
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>>151031736
>"Dont go past SL150 and that SM, you'll only find havelmages"
>SL250, last SM tier
>Encounter a HM only once per 10-15 opponents
>most are UGW users or fun builds
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>>151031640
That's Black Witch Staff, which has three elements.
Staff power shows as AR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-_Duke1ZY
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>>151031903
>wearing the same Name-Engraved Ring as the person you want to co-op with extends the range
Yeah, well, that's the catch : I didn't had any friend playing Dark Souls 2 back then.
My friends either played Team Fortress 2, Neptunia, or Tribes Ascend.

Plus I really like joining unknown players and cooperating with them.
There's something oddly satisfying with helping someone you'll probably never meet again.
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>>151031932
>invaded Mozart's world
>"I'll be bach"
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Anyone else playing badly in PvP 3 hours in? I swear I'm doing good and making right calls when I start playing and it all goes downhill from there. Any tips?
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Can someone help me transfer some items between characters in DS2? SM is at 6M on one, 4M in the other.
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>>151031932
This is gross.
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>>151031640
In DS2, catalysts didnt have spellbuff or magadjust, they scaled of the elemental damage on the catalyst itself, so a chime would have lightning damage on it, and staves magic
These numbers are shit for damage but show fuckhigh AR
as others said, the Black Witch staff has all elements on it; so the game calculates this to a nice 1000+ AR that comes back to 300 a hit or so
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>>151031556
my big guy build
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This healslut needs to be degraded and backstabbed
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>>151031932
I liked the puns. Also just the idea of bludgeoning people to death with a stick is already pretty silly.
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>>151032207
Yeah, there's no straight sword r1 spam at all, the fuck are these unique and viable non-standard weapons?
>>
In Dank Soles 1, a dex/faith build using the dragon slayer spear, mainly for PVE since pvp is ded.

Bad idea?
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>>151032298
No
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>>151032242
>not being a warriorslut
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>>151032298
Yeah. Dragonslayer spear sucks ass until you're SL200. The base damage is so low that you get fuckall from stat investment.
You'll also suffer bad if you try to bring it to the DLC.


STR / FAI though, man. Kill bosses in three hits.
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>>151032220
If I pull that off, would you die?
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>>151031932
>This is what Lucifer said was unfun
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>>151032514
>trusting a tripfag
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how does dead again work in the hands of an invader? can you use it to fuck with the host?
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>>151032463
WHY DOES GUNDYR WEAR THE MASK
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>>151032607
Only when the world is seeded.
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>>151032175
Vanilla DS2 right?
Name a place and Engraved God
I'll drop a small white
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>>151032412
>>151032362

Getting conflicting answers here, mang.

How much faith is needed to make the weapon not suck?
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>Yorshka explains that Gwyn and the gods fueled the first flame
Is there even any god in Lordric?
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anyone by chance have an extra lorian's greatsword?
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>>151032815
No they all left to Lothran.
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>>151032873
gonna put my sign down at high wall bonfire, pw dsg, just summon me
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Guys, I'm scared.
I'm sure I can easily find people to summon for the Pontiff, but the Dancers worries me a bit. I can't find any summon sign in the area (since I killed Vordt), and I keep reading she's a major pain in the ass.
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>>151033021
aight thanks m8
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>>151032638
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>>151033029
If you need help with dancer just ask your friendly neighbourhood /dsg/ players
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>>151032791
Pretty much the only reason to use dragonslayer spear in DaS1 is to be a total cunt in pvp with its huge hitbox and ridiculous stamina damage to shields.

In PvE it's just BAD. It has horrible r2s. The 1hr2 lightning bolt does less than a crossbow while being slower than a crossbow and being more expensive in repair costs than a crossbow.
The 2hr2 has no reach and is super slow.
Yeah you can get it as soon as you kill Ornstein by turning the lightning spear into it and you can upgrade it to full but.. it still requires you to be 27/40/40 to be acceptable.

Which leaves you with basically nothing else for stats.

http://mmdks.com/8bh8
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>>151033029
>Afraid of difficulty
I dunno, be glad if you have problems with her I guess. Overcoming your fuckups is the main part of the entire PvE
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>>151033029
>summoning on your first playthrough
?
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>>151033029
I'll tell you how to easily beat her

1. Equip barbed ss, don't bother upgrading it
2. Buy carthus rogue
3. Apply to barbed ss
4. Press R1 when close to her
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>>151033142
But do you unlock summon signs once the fight start? I haven't killed the woman so the dancers hasn't spawned yet, but I can't find any sign.
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>>151033021
oh and im still in ng and im lvl 87
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>>151033190
>barbed ss

I meant bandit knife
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>>151033209
Yeah thats it, you need to have seen/fought the dancer once for signs to appear

You can easily solo her with bleed though, just dont get greedy
>>151033190 has the best solution
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>>151032724
>>151032175

Scholar
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>>151033168
I'm a pussy that get easily demoralized when things don't work his way.

>>151033175
>not engaging in jolly cooperation
Frankly, I play these games for the coop.

>>151033190
So I just stick close to her?
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>>151033276
No I didn't. Bandit Knife has no range, the barbed ss is way safer.
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>>151033223
that doesnt matter if you use a password i think
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>>151033297
Gimme a minute then, have to switch games; think of a location in the meantime
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>>151033328
k, still not seeing your sign. i put my sign down just in case
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>>151033318
Bandit knife has the almighty quickstep.
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>>151033318
What does range have to do with it? You just get up in her right flank and mash. She barely ever attacks when you're in that position and you can unload your stamina right into her thighs repeatedly without resistance.
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>>151033318
Yes I did. Bandit knife is much faster and has quickstep for when the bitch starts spinning. Anon has to to have a way.
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>>151033304
>I'm a pussy that can't play without coop
DS3 was made especially with you in mind
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>>151033440
That's why I'm playing it.
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>>151033297
>>151033387
Waiting on you anon, small sign will work according to wikidot's chart
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>>151033402
>>151033439
I don't find quickstep very useful against her because she has lingering hitboxes anyway. Rolling it's easier.

>>151033414
Because she keeps walking and will get out of the knife range all the time. The ss moveset push you foward as you attack locked on making every attack hit for sure and thus trigger bleed faster.

I'd know this because I've tried with both. The ss moveset is just superior and ALSO will stagger her for that sexy "ouch" once a while.
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>>151033387
Tower Apart bonfire at lost bastille.
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>>151032370
>You
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>running R1 spam washing pole
>so fun!!! XD IM WINNING!!!
Heh nice meta
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>>151033402
>>151033414
>>151033439
>quickstep

He can't quickstep with his greatshield probably. I know he has a greatshield because all pussies have one.
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>>151033304
Don't worry about the dancer, go in there and maybe die and just repeat. You'll soon learn her patterns and it'll be over in no time.
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>>151033397
are you sure you put dsg as the pw? if yes and you still cant see me then ive probably been shadowbanned and you should ask someone else
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>>151033635
You have the Engraved ring from Shalquoir?
If so, what god sign?
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>SotFS
>summoned to fight the faggot with the bell staff, Vershaltf or whatever his name
>just got Warmth, pretty proud of it
>pop a warmth bubble in the middle of the area
>and start fighting Vessltad
>host just hangs near the fog wall and watch me
>then he black crystal me
Took me a while to figure out why.
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>>151033672
That's not the pussy's mindset. They don't care about enjoying the game, they just want to finish it as fast as they can.
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>>151033717
No, I don't have it.

Just put your summon sign down, there's no one else there at high SM.
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>>151033716
>>151033716
i cant see any sign. but i did try to ivade other worlds, i'e left them some upgrade items though
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>>151033720
why?
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>>151033720
Why?
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>>151033720
...why?
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>>151033754
Not him, but if you've beaten the boss you can't summon phantoms. You can however summon dark spirits via a red sign. upgrade materials can't be dropped either
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>>151033642
play a fighting game


just do it

stop suffering through this pvp trashheap
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>>151033752
Signs down

>>151033760
>>151033793
>>151033834
Warmth heals the boss too
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>>151033760
>>151033793
>>151033834
Warmth heals everyone. Including the boss.
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>>151033641
No! I'm a dragonform tier twig with handsome facial bone structure.
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>>151033153
Well shit, thanks for info, mang.
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>>151033858
>>151033864
But the heal is minimum compared to the damage output of 2 players. You two benefit way more from it.

The host is an idiot.
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>>151033716
put a red sign down
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>>151033927
200 HP per 1.5 seconds is a pretty big deal.
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>>151033927
>The host is an idiot.
Yes he is.
But it was still a humiliating mistake to use warmth like that.
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>>151033858
Can't see it for some reason. SM is 6M on this character

Also, lol but we have the exact same setup. Same weapons and armor I wanna transfer too.
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>>151034027
My SM is 11M
According to Wikidot your characters are in Tier 36&37, mine in 39; small soapstone should send 4 tiers down
Wouldnt it be easier if you went and get the engraved ring anyway?
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>>151034115
Yeah, getting it now.

What should I set it as?
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>>151034152
Caitha
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>>151034152
god of blood
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>AF invade as mage
>there's another guy who melees with a SS
>host rarely rolls
>get host down to like 30 hp 3 times
>other AF NEVER swings his SS once
>other AF dies while I just great farron dart host to death
The fuck, how can people be so incompetent
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>>151034193
>>151034196
Whichever it is, still not seeing it
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>>151033720

>SotFS
>Summoned for boss
>Use super cool dark spell
>Host gets mad
>I perfectly know why
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>>151034309
>>151034193
This is me

>80 sec post timers

Stupid question, are you human?
Are you in the CoC?
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>>151033754
well cant really do anything else now anon
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>>151034318
You're evil. I like you.
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>>151034374
alright , not sure why i cant see it, but have a good night anon
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>>151034489
i just invaded someone, was that you?
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>>151034371
Done.

And you're a bro. Thanks a lot man.
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>>151034681
NP dude, i know the pain of finding someone for something in DS2 here
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>>151034737
Add me if you ever need anything transferred, I'll repay the favor.
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>>151034318
Even if I won't ever go to the mess that was DaS2 ever again, this spell was very neat
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>>151035164
Fire damage burns you
Lightning damage shocks you
What does dark and magic damage do?
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>>151035252
Darks you
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>>151035252
dark in DS1 was physical
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>>151035252

Nibbles at you (source worst DkS3 waifu)
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>>151035252
BLACKED you.
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>>151035325
Anyone that isn't Anri.
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what could possibly go wrong
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>>151035561
For what purpose
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>>151035252
Dark is basically a physical attack. It's like getting hit by a first.

Crystal Magic stabs you, and beam magics burn you with but more like a laser would than a fire would.
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>>151035561
But anon, int is only useful past grand archives
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>>151035631
low level tomfoolery
basically the idea is to avoid confrontation at all costs and just annoy them with arrows and spells when they don't expect it
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>>151035752
Prepare to get run down by passworded SS users
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>>151035821
Why do you care? password phantoms are usually weaker than no password phantoms by quite a bit.
>>
>tripfag proves he has no idea how Dark Souls works
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>>151036305
No shit, everyone knows he didn't actually beat the until almost 2 months in
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>>151036151
>password phantoms are usually weaker than no password phantoms by quite a bit
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>>151036305
>>151036379
You're ad hominem and samefaging won't make me wrong or make your whining about passwords look any less pathetic.
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>>151036457
Know what will make you wrong? Acting tough when it took you 2 months to beat the game : ^)
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>>151036527
Every reply is a good reply in his eyes, just do not
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>>151034318
wait you could walk while chugging crimson water? I thought it has you stay in place towards the end of the animation
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>>151036457
>you're
Read this picture, ESL.
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>>151036151
>weaker

They have endgame gear, also scaling doesnt affect attunement slots or weapon/spell requirements
At SL20 a DMB sellsword combo will fuck you up

And where are you basing your statement on?
>>
When will you people learn?

JUST. DO. NOT. REPLY. TO. HIM. EVER.
>>
Friendly reminder that >>151030737 works great to fix /dsg/.
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>>151036641
Scaling also doesn't affect equip load and stamina.
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>>151036676

People learn but they are soon replaced by newfags
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What do you think of this Lothric Castle/Grand Archives/Archdragon Peak pyro invasion build?
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>>151036725
Almost forgot about that, always nice to hit for 70 and get hit for 250 at SL20 by a passworded Morne's armour guy
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80SL or 120SL for the DLC?
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>>151036919
Is it true that every empty armour slot is a flat % damage increase bonus against you?
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>>151036980
yes
>>
>>151036980

Yes, but I'm going to test out the <30% equip load fast-roll. I heard people say it's worth it.
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>>151036641
You will still be able to wield the weapon, but the damage will be pathetic in comparison to someone that has properly min-maxed at the same level.

You can get end game gear by trading or just going through the game at said low level on your own. You see people on here muling gear down to other characters all the time.
>>151036592
I know that. Not like I did it on porpoise.
>>
>summon me to a duel
>have 2 passworded phantoms and a blue
Why then
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>>151036980
No, you just get a massive armour boost if your set is complete
>>
>Really want to use blessed weapons so I can pretend i'm playing DeS again
>Damage is shit and you can't even buff them
>also no mirdan hammer

feels shit t b h
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>>151037295
>mirdan hammer
Lucerne is the closest you can get

>Blessed weapons
They dont start outdamaging their regular counterparts till 60 faith/base reqs
Raw is still better if you dont need the regen
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>>151036971
100 would most likely be the optimal level for PvE on NG.
>>
>mfw playing DaS3
>with Solaire's armour
>everything deals massive damage
>decides to try the fugitive knight set
>looks pretty cool, a bit heavier, but decent protection
>but still doesn't look as cool as Solaire's set
My only beef with Solaire's set is that he has no gloves, just iron bracelets
>>
>>151037447

why did they make faith shit again

DaS2 it was useable, DeS it was slightly underpowered but the regen was actually really good since you didn't have to stop to eat grass 24/7

just
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>>151037578
DS3 Faith has nifty combos that delete anyones Health bar in one go unless they have 1800+ or stacked lightning defence
Good luck fucking landing them though
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>>151037546
This bracelets were good for making slutty armor combos in DaS1 though.

>>151036676
>don't reply to him because he is smarter than you and will destroy your arguments if you ever trying to argue with logic instead of shit posts

FTFY
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>>151036919
You can go SL 100 and get instant invasions at the places you mentioned.
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>>151037670
>53 VIT
>double Ascended Pyro Flame

Dark Souls 1 was a very well balanced game.
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>>151037843
It really was. It was the most balance Soulsborne game anyway. Honestly, the only thing that needed tweeking was BSes, and it would have been perfect, which is what makes the PvP in the other games sort of disappointing.

BB also did it really well. It just needed and option for duels where the invader didn't lose 30%, and gems should have never been a thing. I really loved how you could parry healing though.
>>
Is there anyone here on PC thats willing to part with a spare Great Machete?
Starting to think these things are a myth with all the farming i've done
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>>151038202
I got one
name a place and pass, I'll put my sign down
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>>151037723

But then I'd probably only invade NG+ players, which is not supposed to happen.
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>>151038516
Tower on the Wall, dsg
Thanks bud
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>>151038202

Item Discovery?
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>>151038638
Stacked it was 307
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>>151036725
>>151036641
How does scaling down work? Down to the host's SL at your stat ratios?
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>>151038516
Thanks man
You hit like a truck btw
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>>151037295
>no Mirdan hammer
Lucerne is literally the Mirdan hammer except it no longer has the Demon's Souls lore name.
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>>151038810
>"Yeeeeeeeeeeeah! I gave him a Machete!"
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>>151038851

>doesn't have the same fast combo
>not blunt damage
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>>151038810
Join the way of the big machetes, anon
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>>151033440
>the entire series was made with pussies like you in mind
FTFY.
Demon's Souls intro cinematic literally shows a blue phantom helping the main character out.
>>
>>151039139
>778
Jesus, thats 66STR 2H? Warcry is active here i assume?
My DMB FUGS only gets to 739
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>>151039071
Doesn't the Archdrake hammer play a lot like Mirdan hammer?
Also :
>wanting blunt damage when you can get those sweet Leo ring counters
>>
>>151039194
Slayer of Demons is a fucking casual

but holy shit the huge harem he achieved
and stockpile thomas is there, too
>>
>>151039256
yep, without warcry it's 707
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>>151039194

I'm also refering to the invasion mechanics. Sure you could always play through it in co-op but I guess I'm just too socially autistic to understand how this is supposed to be fun.
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>>151039321

>Archdrake hammer
>DaS3
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>>151039194
To be fair, the other games were about going it alone then summoning a random person for assistance occasionally if you needed help. It wasn't about going through the entire game with a buddy. They didn't even want you using voice chat. It was supposed to be a lonely experience.
>>
>>151039445
>gee, I don't understand why PvE is fun!
Maybe because Mount and Blade doesn't have a coop mode.
>>
>>151039445
>Demon's Souls
>host will always have more max health than the invader
>can summon two phantoms while there can't really be more than one invader
>host can use Banish

Though healing is equal.
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>>151038704
>How does scaling down work?
It doesn't.
>>
>>151039758

>actually getting hit by banish
>>
>invade
>guy tries to crystal me out

But... why? Why would you even try this? I never understood this, why would this work at all
>>
>>151039758
The invader has to be retarded to get hit by Banish, and the invader has access to the Foe Ring.

Not to mention all the shit the invader can do to grief the host in DeS.
>>
>>151039859
Newbies
>>
>>151039859
I got summoned to a duel once and got BC'd out when the host got to low HP because he used CE to change my phantom type or something
shit's weird
>>
>>151039904
I was a newbie once and I figured by logic that it wouldn't work.
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>>151039859
Because the item description makes it sound like it would work.
>>
>>151039859
Don't blame lucifer, he's trying his best to avoid getting rekt.
>>
>>151039975
There are idiots out there by the millions that dont read item descriptions
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>>151039875
>the invader has access to the Foe Ring.
>Not to mention all the shit the invader can do to grief the host in DeS.

That's what made DeS invasions good.
>>
>>151039875
>not to mention all the shit the player can do to grief the host
Yeah, I miss that. What was the most annoying shortcut you can close for the host in Demon's? Could you close the big gate in 1-3?
>>
What was wrong with spells having a set amount of casts? They could've just kept FP for weapon arts.
>>
>>151040242

What was wrong with spells costing a set amount of mana in Demon's Souls?
>>
>DaS3 Foe Ring
>Ring of Foe
>Only works with fingers
>Gives 30% more damage (to compensate the 30% extra HP)
>now fingers covenant actually have a purpose

Make it happen DLC.

Also why the fuck blues can be targeted by mobs? This is beyond retarded, half the blues die to mobs right after being summoned.
>>
>>151040076
I wouldn't say it was good, but it certainly made them more fun for the invader.

Though my point was, invaders weren't necessarily disadvantaged, they were just differently-advantaged.

>>151040190
Shortcuts aside, it seems like you could kill their crystal lizards or chase them off, then if the host died, they lost access to that drop forever. I don't remember the details, just that it was the most dick thing you could do in the game.
>>
>>151040242
Reduces pointless hassle of going back to the bonfire every time or grinding spices. The levels in DS3 are also longer so it's nice to have something you can regen.
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>>151040242
The problem is Att should give way more FP and way more slots. The stats looks almost bugged.
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>>151040351
>half the blues die to mobs right after being summoned
Cry more, bluefag.
>>
>>151040436
>regen
you mean sit in a safe corner and go afk for 10 minutes while you wait for it to regen?
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>>151037670
>don't reply to him because he is smarter than you and will destroy your arguments if you ever trying to argue with logic instead of shit posts
L M A O
M
A
O
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>>151040480
I mean both regen shit for PvE while you're going through the level or just waiting for invasions and flasks.
The Mana flasks were one of the better additions of DS3 (ironically most things I dreaded were gonna be shit in DS3 turned out to be good)
>>
>>151040480
But it doesn't regen by itself. You have to kill things to recover estus.
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>>151040461
I'm a redfag.

I just feel bad for blues. Not only they lost their orb and have to resort to this autosummon bullshit that doesn't work, they can be targeted by mobs and usually spawn surrounded by them.
>>
Holy shit

I just realized that Phalanx, Tower Knight and Penetrator from DeS are the legendary heroes you fought as black phantoms as well in 1-4.
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>>151040726
I'm a yellowfag.

I don't care for blues, and I have little respect for hosts that run to the bonfire and way for blues to spawn once they get invaded.
>>
>>151040719
He was referring to simple infusion

I think simple is pretty nice, having one or two +9's gives plenty of regen while trekking through a level; i only hope the DLC will add a sun princess ring equivalent for FP
>>
How do I make a decent Luck build, /dsg/? Should I go for Bleed/Poison, or Hollow as my weapon effect?
>>
>>151040837
>I'm a yellowfag

You're worse than blues. You're literally a babysitter.
Unless you are a red-yellow, then you are an okay that should leave this meme convenant and become a finger.
>>
>>151040457
no kidding, the requirements are massive for slots
>10 -> 14 -> 18 -> 24
???
if you want to play any kind of magic user you're basically forced to grind the darkmoon ring
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>>151040242
Nothing was wrong with it, DaS and DaS2 had the superior spell casting systems. They should've left spells with charges, and weapons arts should've either been free and infinite use, or cost durability like some special attacks did in previous games (or still do, in the case of the MLGS).

>>151040874
Fast weapons (e.g. Oni&Ubi), Hollow infusion, Carthus Rouge.
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>>151040913
Nah. I like invading a guy, hiding somewhere, and wait for him to get killed by mobs because he can't rest at the bonfire.
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>>151040760
Why did it take you that long to figure it out? Most people pieced it together after fighting the Alants.

>>151040571
Thanks for proving my point.

>>151040913
Nah, dropping yellow red signs is fun as hell. Way too many people summon you by mistake while trying to get help. Watching them panic is way too much fun.
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>>151040939
I hate magic but even I feel bad of how crap FP is. The guy uses 3 CSS and has to drink blue estus, what the fuck.
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>>151040850
>simple infusion
>regenerating
Nope, still don't get it.
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>>151040958
>and weapons arts should've either been free and infinite use
but that would be fun
you can't have fun things in dark souls 3
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>>151040996
It's nice to do that in the Farron Swamp, invading in the upper area. If you're lucky, the host already killed the Sages, so his only option is the Watchers. No way people are gonna beat the Abyss Watchers after the swamp fuckery without resting at ANY midway bonfire. And hiding in the swamp works too fucking well.
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>>151041112
Regenerating FP
A weapon or shield with the simple FP gives you back 1 FP every 4 seconds
For each upgrade level that time is reduced by 0.25 seconds
You gradually regain FP during the level
Are you rusing me anon you silly twat?
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>>151041268
>A weapon or shield with the simple FP gives you back 1 FP every 4 seconds
WHAT
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>>151041361
It's nothing.
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>>151041268
>>151041361
"Simple FP"
meant infusion
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>>151041268
Regen that slow is basically worthless, especially since the nerfed the way it works with WAs.
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>>151041361
Blessed infusion does the same for health.
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>>151041262
I used to do that in the Catacomb. Combined with how aggressive hosts are once they think they have the upper hand, I got a lot of them killed by the bones ball.

It was fucking hilarious. As hilarious as that one time I hid near a bonfire, saw the host coming in, lightning the bonfire, getting rid of the 15321 monters that follow him there, tried to rest.
And then I walked to him and threw a knife at him.
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>>151041463
You can't light bonfires while a dark phantom is present.

Stop lying in the internet.
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>>151041268
>>151041409
>>151041415
>>151041440
I didn't knew infusions gave you HP or SP back.
It's far from Skyrim's lightning speed regeneration, but still pretty neat.
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>>151041526
Yes, you can. You just can't rest at it.
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>>151041543
Simple infusion is completely worthless
Blessed is a nice addition when stacked with other forms of HP regen
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>>151041419
It's not useless, it lets me Farron Dart troll forever in duels.
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>>151041526
>know it all
geez anon atleast experience it before you say something
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>>151041578
No you can't. A Aldritch Faithful followed me to the Anor Londo bonfire because I wasn't feeling like fighting him. I couldn't light the bonfire, had to kill the guy.
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>>151041526
You can, you dumb fuck. You just can't rest.

I know what I'm talking about, I led a lot of people to the bonfire in the Carthus Catacombs.
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>>151041419
One weapon art every ten seconds with simple Caestus is fine, in addition to your prior FP reserves.
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How much AR does a heavy greataxe+10 have at 66STR 2h? the one with zero range
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>>151041772
Less than 2kat
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>>151041804
What happens if you die while having more than 100k souls on the ground? Do they just disappear, or does it unlock something in someone else's game?
I think Demon Souls has a weird thing where an item would turn in a monsters.
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>>151041440
Does the Dragon Greatshield that recovers health work the same way, with increasing regen as you level it up? Or is it a flat 2 hp/sec like the princess ring
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>>151041713
>>151041635
Well fuck me then. I couldn't for some reason. (>>151041705)

Maybe only faithfuls block bonfires, but that doesn't make any sense.
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>>151041885
No idea
Considering it already starts at 2hp/s it's probably static
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>>151041917
Maybe it really depends from the covenant, but as a sunbro, people can light up bonfire even if I'm invading them.
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>>151041526
>get summoned as blue sentinel
>escort host through catacombs because invader is 100% waiting to destroy the bridge halfway for memes
>host lights bonfire
well then how's that
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>>151041881
>I think Demon Souls has a weird thing where an item would turn in a monsters.
Dark Souls 1 had Vagrants, which would spawn in another players world out of dropped items and bloodstains. AFAIK they haven't appeared in any other game in the series.
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>>151041917
>>151041705
If I remember correctly the same thing happened to me once, but only once and it was also at the anal lando bonfire. I don't recall if it was an aldrich faithbro or not tho
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>>151041705
I have lit a bonfire plenty of times with invaders in the world. I couldn't sit at it to refill my estus or heal, but I could activate it to work as a checkpoint.

Obviously, it doesn't work if you have already lit the bonfire.

>>151041750
Nah, just not worth it unless you are using whatever is in your left hand for something like parry spam instead of as an actual weapon/shield.

>>151041881
You are thinking of DaS1.
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>>151026816
>BKG chinese glaive
>Red Rust Scimitar chinese dao
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>>151042049
And huge souls amount don't spawn monsters like that?

I'm kinda FURIOUS AT HAVING LOST OVER NINE THOUSANDS SOULS
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>>151041772
683 before warcry
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>>151042021
I don't know. I don't know anything.

I just know I couldn't lit that bonfire and I assumed that hosts couldn't while being invaded. Maybe it's that bonfire, going by what >>151042053 said.
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>>151042394
That reminds me.

What happen if the host triggers Aldia's bonfires in SotFS while being invaded?
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>STILL no new patch
you know, by this time we saw a shitton of quality of life improvements in bb
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>>151042216
Thanks
Guess I'll stick to DSGA
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>>151041613
>Simple infusion is completely worthless
It's extremely good in pve as left hand and right hand bonuses stack.
It's also good for low-FP weapon arts as it allows to use them once in ~10 seconds.
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>>151042652
Does it change the resistances on the shield at all?
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>>151042518
Right? They buffed the 2kat and didn't buff the other katanas?
The bloodlust clearly is bugged as it isn't hitting as much as an ultra greatsword like it should.
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>>151042049
>spot one in Parish
>oh cool
>it ion cannons me and kills me in one shot
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>>151042691
Never tried to infuse a shield with it, only caestus. I think it should lower them a little
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>>151042815
not like it matters as shields are only tools to avoid chipping damage when backpedalling
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>>151042691
By 5% i think
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>Sharp
>Heavy
>Refined
>Raw
>Hollow
>_____
>_____
>_____
>....

Fill the gaps with useful infusions. You complain so much about DaS3 infusions being worthless. Make better ones, then.
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>>151043106
>Ultimate
>Ultra
>Hyper
>Nep
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>>151043194
>Nep
At +10 it become NepNep
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>Mail Breaker
goddamn, brutal start for sorcerer
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HUMAN
DO NOT PRODUCE LIGHT
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>the tripfag is trying to answer me
What a shaaame I have a filter to block its stupidity.
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>>151043106
buff elemental infusion damage, don't make new ones
also allow elemental infusions to be buffed because having split damage is already bad
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>>151043106
>more physical damage, no downside
>more physical damage, no downside
>more physical damage, no downside
woow
sharp, heavy and refined shouldn't exist
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>>151043403
Bullshit. Set a man a fire and he'll produce a lot of light.
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In DaS2 how much INT/FTH do you guys get for your hex builds? I don't want to duel in arena, I want to invade, so I gotta keep my SM low.

Also, Wrath of the Gods has the same animation and same sound effects as the healing miracles, right? Would 50 FTH Lightning Dragon Chime +5 WoG be enough to one-shot someone?
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>>151043615
I think the go to was 30/30, at least for lower levels
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>>151043441
>buff elemental infusion damage
the only scaling elemental infusion that needs buff is lighting
chaos and especially dark already deal almost as much damage as quality weapons
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>>151043441
>also allow elemental infusions to be buffed because having split damage is already bad
That's the only way to fix it. Buffs can be countered with duel charms and the damage is fine since the weapons have the advantage of doing separate dmg types albeit the sum is and should be weak.
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DaS2 starting classes are so retarded.

>warrior description says "battle-scarred warrior" but the default male character literally has a anime babyface
>warrior has a broken sword
>knight doesn't have a shield
>knight doesn't have fairly high endurance and vitality
>sorcerer literally can't use any shield
>cleric can't use %95 of weapons
>no one in the history of mankind ever chose explorer
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>>151043397
DS3 Mail breaker is actually not that bad compared to DS1&2's
Havent played DeS so i dunno how it is there
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>>151043760
All the good hexes require more than that, do you spice them? Doesn't that fuck up the spell?
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>>151043106
I can't say that DS3 infusions are worthless, i like them, they just need a few adjustments.
Large weapons should benefit from Heavy much more than from refined.
Small dex weapons should benefit from Sharp much more than from refined.
Refined should only give more damage to medium and some rare large weapons. Greatswords, halberds, astora ugs, things like that.
Lighting infusion needs a buff.
Bleed and poison infusions should gain a major bleed/poison boosts but at expense of very low physical damage. Give him ~80 bleed or poison per hit, remove 80% of their damage.
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>>151043901
>warrior died because of a broken sword
>knight is used to duel and two handing his weapon, ergo it makes sense he doesn't have a shield
>clerics are supposed to use miracles
>sorcerer is supposed to stay away from fights
>"maaaan that doesn't make any sense"
>"baaaw why is my hunter character spawning without a plate armour?"
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What the fuck is with the teleporting dogs, /dsg/?

>>151043901
I chose Explorer fairly often, their base stats are good and having a bunch of extra loot is always nice.
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>>151043901
The only 2 gripes i have with DS2's starting classes are the Bandit being pure dex and the absence of a pyromancer
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>>151040351
This should just be an innate effect of the fingers covenant
Or otherwise give invaders a damage buff for every hostile phantom present in the world. 0% if it's just the host and 10% for each additional phantom.

I'm okay with the host having an advantage over me in a 1v1, because it is his game after all, but I definitely wouldn't say no to some more gankspank power, especially since 40% more damage against a full squad would guarantee that hornet ripostes instantkill, rather than leaving a phantom with 400 health to spare because they're a """scaled-down""" level 800 character.
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>>151044172
But Onee-chan, that newfag never picked Explorer, so obviously nobody else picked it euther.
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>>151044197
pyromancer wasn't even supposed to exist
there were fire sorceries instead of a dedicated pyro and looked way better than anything we got in the end
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>>151043106
Reduces damage but restores HP and FP on kill
Reduces damage but inflicts a non-shitty version of frostbite status, maybe have it apply through iframes like bleed does now and when it caps out it reduces the target to fatrolling
Replaces the weapon art with perserverance or something useful
Make bleed and poison stack with resins so they aren't trash
Same with magic, lightning, fire etc. These were perfect in DaS2, where buffing was a flat boost and a % boost added together.

>>151043901
Even on your first playthrough you level up so fast that none of that shit matters. And on subsequent playthroughs you can take an ascetic as your gift, kill Dragonrider and Dragonrider NG+ with fallstrats, crunch 2x Dragonrider Soul and be at SL50 literally 5 minutes into the game.
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>>151042596
More pure physical and true 2hR1 combos. I want to like it but DSGA seems to have more range and sometimes true combos?

and you might as well use Yhorm's if you want that kind of AR.
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>>151044003
Nah, you just make sacrifices and adjust fai or int up and do slightly as needed. Spices also were as useless at launch
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>>151044312
>he wants to go back to ds2's dark weapon buffed dark chaos blades
How about no.
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>>151041526
That was only for the first few versions of the game. They stealth-fixed it during a patch.

I know exactly what you mean. I used to deliberately hold bonfires hostage as an invader because the host could not light them with me around, and I know that I was unable to light bonfires when I was a host and an invader was near it. That stopped being a thing at some point, I'm not sure which patch changed it because it was obviously not a listed change, but they can ignore you and light them now.

Which is kind of a piss off, because 90% of Archdragon peak invasions now just involve a chase sequence where the host suicide sprints to light the bell bonfire and then let you kill them, since the lighting animation has complete iframes and you literally cannot prevent them from interacting with the bonfire.
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>>151043106
Just make elemental infusions do 100% conversion into elemental damage. This bypasses the split damage fuckery.
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>>151044461
>he loses to chaos blade
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>>151043403
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>>151042518
No we didn't
By this time in BB we saw the instantdeath shotgunspear get nerfed, saltcannon get nerfed, and the stamina cost of the kirkhammer go down by 1%. Literally the only other thing they had fixed by this point in BB was the Iosefka skip (yeah thanks a lot fromsoft, god forbid your game not be boring, linear trash), give the loading screens item descriptions and shorten their average time from 5 minutes down to 2 minutes.

Oh yeah, and they claimed to fix that memory leak that caused bosses to be unable to access most of their moveset after an hour of play time, except they didn't actually fix it and it still turned the game into a joke if you made any significant progress in 1 sitting.
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I'll start with an easy one.

Miyazaki would never allow this ;-;
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>>151044939
Is this some blizzard shit?
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>>151044464
You shouldn't be able too. The bonfires are basically a check point. If they make it there then it should count.

Locking them out of using it to heal is what really matters, because you can use that mechanic to fuck over gank squads.
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What are Grave Wardens doing in Earthen Peak?
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>>151043901
>Knight starts with high overall base stats, including high ADP and vigor
>you find several shields very early in the game, all of which the knight can use
>warrior starts with a terrible weapon but ideal quality stats to use literally any weapon you encounter for the first 4 hours of gameplay
>sorcerer doesn't have the ability to use a shield by default because you're a fucking sorcerer
>cleric starts with the ability to 2hand the strongest pve weapon in the game, which also happens to be the weapon that every enemy on the path to the miracle vendor that sells offensive spells are all extremely weak to
>explorer starts with a tonne of ADP and a bunch of additional consumables for new players to crutch on

2 had the best starting classes in the series. Most had at least 1 explicit weakness in their starting equipment or stats that you could fix by going to FotFG, which was its entire purpose as an area. It was an optional extended tutorial designed to gear up and level up your character, and you could go there if you felt like you needed to or skip it entirely and rush down to Bastille.
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>>151045327
literally nothing as that area was supposed to be connected to undead crypt
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>>151044939
pic related, the one thing DaS2 got right
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>>151043106
Elemental ones are okay, just make int/fth max scalings go back to 40 or 30/30, with refined tier AR if you go further (still worse because split).
Heavy still removes dex but makes scaling go much bigger, high B can becone S.
Sharp reduces weight and stamina consumption.
Bleed and poison no longer reduce scalings and can be buffed. Their resins are nerfed, you can only reach current carthus jam rate with bleed+ resin. Poison becones toxic
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>>151045470
>80 second post timer
Prepare for (you)'s anon
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>>151045470
nice
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>>151045327
It was designed as the entrance to Undead Crypt and was changed into the path to Iron Keep last-minute. There's a door that's covered over with a half-assed wall texture that leads to an unused area, still in the game files, which served as the transition. It even has a bossroom meant to house some presumably cut boss.

If you remember that first cinematic trailer for DaS2 that had a shot of this giant wooden circular gate being slowly lifted in some dark dungeon, it was that area. That thing is modeled and part of the cut map.
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>>151043901
>babyface
It's really hard to create a really convincing looking gritty warrior face in DaS2 because they all look like gay anime boys but not in a good way. At least we got beards.
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>>151045470
forgot pic
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>>151045628
>we will never get an actual dark souls 2 like it was supposed to be
>we will never get fire sorceries, manual spell aiming, different casting timings on r1/r2
>we will never get aldia's keep being a spooky as fuck multi-level mansion with torture devices and creepy paintings
>we will never get the alpha version of forest of the fallen giants with more passages
>we will never get E3 visuals, geometry and textures
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>>151045861
Hitboxes could've been a little bit better, but iron chest mimics were pretty good as a surprise first time around
Doesnt scholar make mimics in NG+ random?
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>>151045706
With beards they just look like this.
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>>151045969
No
Scholar changed the location of a few mimics from the base game
NG+ scholar makes the first chest on the road to fotfg a mimic, just to fuck with people, but it's the only mimic change in NG+

Randomized mimics would have been awesome, but I'm pretty sure they couldn't have done that because chests were an environment prop and mimics were treated as an enemy, even in their disguised form. The code handles them differently, so you couldn't just flip a random variable to swap between them. They have to be manually placed in the devkit to ensure they line up with the environment and don't clip through the floor or float in the air or something silly like that.
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>>151044804
When was the blood rock vendor patch? Farming NG+s for slabs is bullshit.
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>>151045907
>different casting timings on r1/r2
>less spells
>soul arrow r1, heavy soul arrow r2
>soul spear r1, crystal souls spear r2
>farron flashsword r1, soul greatsword r2
Could be doable, I don't see why not other than having to make more spells.
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>knights with katanas
>cloth armor + ultra weapon
>sorcerer with shields

they look so bad. if you do this, you should feel bad, man.
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>>151046321
>battlemage
>bad
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>>151045537
This is the third time someone says this in the thread. Is the timer annoying you this badly?
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>>151046218
Blood rock was the patch about a month after the dlc, the same one that yet again decreased the stamina cost of the kirkhammer by like 5%.

It was after the big dlc patch that added the league and buffed heavy/cold abyssals to ridiculous proportions.
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>>151044461
>he wants to go back to DaS1's "magic and enchanted are worthless so just buff a raw/normal weapon if you want to play a spellsword"
How about boring
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>>151046321
>"if you don't play the game MY way, you're a shitter"
Keep your trip, lucifer.
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>>151046321
Cloth armor + ultra is /fa/ as fuck. Don't be hatin'.
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>>151046321
I use a Pyromancer with a shield, SS, Whip, and pyrohand. It looks just fine.
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>>151046397
No i was referring to the fact that the other guy posted "pic related" but forgot his picture and had to wait 80 seconds while everyone would call him an idiot.
Post timers are fine with me
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>>151046248
Soul greatsword used to have a 3-hit combo. If you aggro straid you can see it, as he, and every other NPC, use the cut versions of spells instead of the player version.

If you want to see some real shit, aggro titchy gren and let him do his thing for a bit. He'll show you what hexes could have been.
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Are Corrosive Urns as far as it goes or will the game ever allow us to curse/petrify other players?
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>>151046414
In DS1 spellswords had their own specific niche.
In DS2 they don't exist as caster can get full advantage from buffs.
Which one promotes more build diversity?
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>people still praise Dark Souls 1's PvP
>people will defend this
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>>151046435
it screams "I want to use this big weapon but I don't want to level vit!"
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>>151046149
I don't think the levels can actually change mid-playthrough at all. Which is why all the vendors's "shops" are already in place at Firelink before they spawn in.
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>>151046643
There is a reason for that. DaS1 had the best PvP in the series.

>>151046512
The post timers have become unnecessarily long though. It's especially annoying if you are trying to story time.

>>151046416
Lol, I guess I am the General's Boogie Man now.
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>>151046643
i am bad: the post
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>>151046463
I'm not stupid. I've listened to other people and decided not to reply to you!
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>>151046321
>cloth + ultra weapon

Oh, I'm sorry, you want me to dump 30 points in vit and use havel's for you faggot?
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Daily reminder that Lucifer NEVER posts any off-topic shit, always helps newbies and gives good advice.
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So anon, what rings do you have in your slots?

The only time I have ever needed four spots for ring slots is on caster builds, quality/STR/DEX builds do not need four ring slots, as there just aren't enough necessary rings, most of them you can do without.

If you don't have a slot saved for untrue dark ring you have a 70% chance of being a meta shitter tryhard
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>>151044776
I can't get over how stupid Agdayne's Crypt Blacksword looks like. It's like the weapon designer intentionally wanted to make fun of Miyamuhmiya's obsession with Berserk and put the Dragonslayer in but made sure it looks like shit.
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>>151046883
Keep your trip, Lucifer.
That way, I can filter your stupidity out.
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>>151046521
Any footage of Gren's hexes? Couldn't find any on Youtube and I'm really curious.
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>>151043106
Each element gets a non-scaling infusion available early-game, and can be upgraded later like in DS1.

Fire → Chaos (INT/FAI scaling, fire damage, bonus damage based on amount of souls carried)
Magic → Crystal (INT scaling, magic damage, FP regen)
Lightning → Divine (FAI scaling, lightning damage, HP regen)
Dark → Hollow (INT/FAI scaling, dark damage, bonus damage based on Hollowing)
Poison → Toxic (decreased AR, toxic damage)
Bleed → Razor (decreased AR, increased bleed damage)
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>>151046149
>The code handles them differently, so you couldn't just flip a random variable to swap between them. They have to be manually placed in the devkit to ensure they line up with the environment and don't clip through the floor or float in the air or something silly like that.
I don't see how that would be a problem. Place a mimic and a chest at every chest location, and for each location randomly remove either the mimic or the chest.

>>151046558
>In DS2 they don't exist as caster can get full advantage from buffs.
Except for doing less physical damage and less weapon variety to pick from.
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britney spears in her prime was so hot
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Why must the Dragonslayer Greataxe suffer with that shitty moveset.
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>>151047102
>doing less physical damage
irrelevant
>less weapon variety to pick from
in a game with soul memory? naaaaaaaaaaah
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>>151047162
What, you wanted to have fun? Wrong game, motherfucker. Dark Souls is all about challenges.
>wanting to have fun
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>>151047162
Because the player is not allowed to have nice things and unique weapons are forbidden unless you pay an extra 30 bucks for the dlc.
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>>151047102
>he uses weapons on his sorcerer
>he doesn't stay at 3 strenght during the whole game
>he doesn't cast unleash magic, then cast soul vortex to blind his opponent, then hit him with a crystal soul spear in the face
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>>151046321
Sorcerer literally starts with a shield
kys
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>>151047162
Reminder that instead of the Dragonslayer Armour stance, they gave you that stupid pancake smash.
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>>151047162
If you want fun movesets, you're playing in a wrong game anon.
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>>151047369
>BB's transformation changes the moveset of lackluster main game weapons into something cooler
>DaS3's transformation is fetish fuel for species-dysphoric homosexual degenerates on the internet.
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>>151047254
it's "boogeyman", not "boogieman"
>mfw lucifer is from burgerland

>>151047250
>implying it's possible to hit someone with crystal soul spear in pvp
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>>151047312
The attack itself is good but it should be a stance r2 or something. With stance R1 being a golem axe-like projectile he does.
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>>151046918
FaP
Life
Chrilanty
Whatever, never use untrue, cat, sun princess, estus, obscuring and so on are all better. Untrue is for fags
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>>151047530
He's not. It's pretty clear he's a filthy ESL who can't speak a single line of English without making a shitload of typos.
While pretending it's intentional.
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>>151047250
You forgot the moment when your opponent takes out a magic magic shield and laughs his ass off looking at your pew pew projectiles.
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Which game had the best tutorial?
>Demon's Souls had a segment that feels like a real level, has an optional boss,can't return to it
>Dark Souls 1 had a clearly tutorial kind of area with two bosses and additional content if you return there
>Dark 2 had a completely optional tutorial
>Dark 3 had a tutorial like Dark 1 with the game's hub connecting to the tutorial area
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>>151047769

Bloodborne, no tutorial at all.
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>>151047769
Judex being some sort of an early game test is the best tutorial. Cool lore as well as he became a newbie filter by his own will.
DS1's is too fucking long.
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>>151047312
>>151047561
The WA is fine, a stance would have been better but it still works.
It's the overhead slam moveset that's killing me inside. It's like they don't realize the reason it works for UGS is because they're fuckhuge while this axe has the reach of a handicapped toddler.
And don't even get me started on that fucking rolling attack.
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>>151046526
Demon's Souls allowed you to delevel players.
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>finally beat tutorial vanguard
>get rewarded with god dragon fisting me

th-thanks
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>>151047769
DeS, Getting punched by the Dragon God was the coolest shit ever.
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>>151047878
>Judex
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>>151047875
Entire central yharnam is one large tutorial.
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>DaS3
female young or mature voice?
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>>151047949
>finally beat tutorial vanguard
>finally
First souls game or just bad?
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>>151047769
DES bit DS2 having an optional tutorial is nice
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>>151046526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMEDb4oIXJs
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>>151048001

.....No? Central Yharnman is a standard first area like 1-1/Undead Burg/High Wall.
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>>151046526
I wish you could do that. It would be neat to kill monsters that way.
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>>151047878
>yfw Iudex was just fed up with all the shitters so he wanted to make them ragequit
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>>151043901
DS2's classes were half-finished, just like the rest of the game, that's why no one but the bandit and explorer had their own starting armor sets
Also bandit was a dex class, fucking why
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>>151048571
>DS2's classes were half-finished, just like the rest of the game
Nice meme.
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>>151048302
>players get access to Curse cloud
>it works like Petrification in DS2
I wish instead of making shit get insta-cursed, the hackers would make shig like Curse clouds that worked like legit spells.
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>>151048726
>hackers doing anything that isn't broken
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>>151048302
I heard most enemies have no curse resist/immune amd CEfags could kill even bosses in one hit
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>>151048795
I'm more interested in turning enemies in statues, but oneshotting bosses sound fun.
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>>151048908
You can legit kill NG Sully in one hit. It's funny
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How much of a stamina regen penalty do you if your equipload is above 70%? And is wearing a chloranthy ring enough to negate this penalty?
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>>151046957
>how stupid Agdayne's Crypt Blacksword looks like.
delet dis right now you double nigger. how dare you talk about my weaponfu
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>>151048795
CE fags can instantly curse things because they use CE to instantly curse things. It has nothing to do with the bosses resistance to curse or whether they're immune, they just have a script that takes the data entry for "IS THIS THING CURSED? Y/N" and flip the N to a Y, skipping the need for buildup or any of that nonsense entirely.
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>>151049028
>sully
Who?
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How good is the Chaos Blade compared to meta weapons using respective builds?
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What's the point of the Mercenary starting class when Assassin has almost the exact same stat spread?
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>>151048793
There were some guys who did fun shit with CE like making explosive arrows in DS1 or yhat one guy who was making the bosses fight using debug mode or that guy invading as Andre.
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>about to face the boss of demon ruins
>go through the fog gate and see the old demon king
>basically a frail old man that was just taking a nap
>as a last desperate attempt to kill me he performs an aoe explosion which weakens him greatly
>have to kill him as he struggles to stand while he aimlessly flais his arms around

I really didn't need this.
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>>151049274
>mfw I've been told the Old Demon King was one of the most difficult bosses and I was terrified of fighting him
>this
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>>151049123
The absolute madman of DaS3.
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>>151049123
Only the best thing to come out of DaS3, of course.
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>summoned as blue
>get pressure off the host so he can heal
>phantom runs away
>chase him
>host doesn't follow

Dear fucking god why are people so bad at this game
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>>151048571
I don't get why the fuck they decided to change beta version classes.
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>>151049452
>>151049480
Ha, the Pontiff turbofaggot.
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If I invade someone and they get a bluefag through concord, will the bluefag get banned if I black crystal out?
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>>151049274
He killed me two times with his flame bullshit close up but then I just shot him with a crossbow. A team of 5 skeleton could probably rek him.

>yfw Wolnir's forces are just some pissant skelwtons now but 3 of them can take on a Demon and win.
No wonder Wolnir won the other kings back in yhe day.
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>>151049719
>will the bluefag get banned
I assume you mean banished from the hosts world? If you were the only invader then yeah he'll probably return home
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Is it possible to still get ranks in Gravelord and Sunlight covenants in DS1 for the spells?

Also, are sunlight spears viable at all in pvp?
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>>151049870
Sounds fun. I'll do that next time a blue guy is summoned.
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what is he doing here /dsg/ ?
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>>151049921
>Gravelord
Unless you're ready to get assfucked in townshit at metalevel ranges, nope.
>Sunlight
You can.
>Also, are sunlight spears viable at all in pvp?
Sunlight spears were a total garbage in pvp prior to DS3 where they are still mediocre. In DS1 you will never ever hit someone with them even with 45 dex for cast speed.
Gravelord greatsword dance is shit too.
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>>151049274
i killed him using only poison/toxin recently and it turns out that he doesn't fall and do the explosion if you kill him like that, which made me feel a bit better about doing so. still feels bad thoug
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>>151049956
You know if you kill him you get twice the reward of killing the host right?
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>>151050137
But I don't care about killing anyone, I already have 40 sunlight medals and 80 embers.
I just want to be kind of a dick to shitty hosts and show the map around to good hosts.
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>>151050094
Dreams of playing a battlepriest in ds1 status == demolished
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>>151050050
lookin 4 dat boipucci
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>>151028342
>the smelter underboob
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>>151050137
Nigga, who the fuck uses tongues? You get them like candy. I keep all blue tongies (and double concords) for maximum edge/bragging rights
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>>151050050
Aldrich spiderbro wants to become a Darkmoon
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>>151050250
You can play as a battle priest, but you will need to use basically two miracles.
Here's a build i've used for both pve and pvp, but for pvp i've changed the armor completely to fastroll and use the crown of dusk/mask of the mother.
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>>151050250
You can try using the dance around corners or near ledges.
There's that one Sen's fun house gif
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>>151050239
They aren't going to know you're being a dick, all you're doing is wasting your own time desu, you won't even get the blues angry
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>>151050570
I doubt so, I've seen many blues whining about being summoned only to get sent back immediately after.
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>>151050094
>Gravelord greatsword dance is shit too.
I'm gonna Gravelord you for talking shit.
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>>151050570
>blue insta sent back after hours of waiting
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>Liar ahead
You guys know that you can rate messages down in DS1 and DS3, right? And only certain messages appear in a certain world, right?
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Jesus christ, the souls threads at /v/ make me cringe so hard.
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>>151050665
>hand starts to glow
>casuallt move away
>30000000 it hits and misses completely
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>>151050774
Do tell more?
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>>151050239
>embers
you get tongues but only if you're in fingers
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Best method to farm Aldia Warlock Mask?
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Anybody interested in some full frontal co-op? cleansing chapel pass dsg PC?
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That fucking build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaxjfqygsvI
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>>151050856
Nigga he just won where it counts. You'll never look as cool as he just did
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>>151050856
>Just throwing spells out there like it's candy
That's why you think it sucks, gotta lure them in. Feels so good launching people into the air with it. Give it a Second Chance, trust me.
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>>151051269
i've hit people in pvp with it. even chained it with 18 dex. i'm just saying that if you pay any attantion it's easy as shit to avoid
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>>151051126
what's "full frontal"?
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You can bring from the previous games to the DLCs
>4 weapons
>2 shields
>3 armor sets
>1 ring
>2 spells

Which ones you bring?
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>playing DaS1 on PS3
>can't install a mod that makes enemy healthbars visible
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>>151051038
4th bonfire in shrine of amana behind that door that you can only open as hollow. He doesn't respawn so you need bonfire aesthetics.
In SOTFS you can just use a branch on one of the statues (not sure which one) in the shaded ruins to get it.
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>>151051508
Like you do with your BF
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>>151043106
Frost infusion :
Scales off of magic
Mostly magic damage leaving very little physical damage
Drops the weapon durability really low


Nerf refined scaling, buff Heavy and Sharp scaling benefits. Make lightning scale off of Faith but less than blessed. Lacerating gets a dex scaling but lowers the durability a lot.
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>>151051557
Can i bring DaS2 roll speed? That would be very lovely. Both for PvE and PvP.
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>>151051132
>shitty royalty free clown music
STOP WITH THIS SHIT ALREADY
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>>151051557
Demon's Spear, Golem Axe, Smelter Sword and Silver Knight Straight Sword
Eagle Shield and Necro Lantern
Steel Set, Gough Set and Ruin Set
DaS1 Havel's Ring
Fuck magic
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>>151051616
i see. are you even there? my sign's been down for quite a while
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>>151051838
>Carmina Burana
>Royalty Free
Please torture yourself.
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>>151051980
Sorry I was invading randos

If you still interested I'll pick you up now
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>>151052401
i'm garbage at this game though
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>>151051557
dunno
don't care
raime I think
southern ritual band +2
soul focus, great resonant soul maybe
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>>151049146

Only does great damage at 60 Dex, otherwise a 40/40 Black Blade and Washing Pole are still better. Also the Chaos Blade's self damage is inflicted even when hitting shields, so anyone using a 100% physical defense shield against it can just spite kite you to death.
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>>151051557
Velka's Rapier, Dragonrider Halberd, Bandit Greataxe, Bone Fists
Iron Round Shield, Chaos Shield
Crystal, Royal Soldier, Throne Defender
Rusted Iron Ring
Soul Flash, Dark Dance
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>>151051557
Only from dark souls or can we use DeS/BB?
If not
>obsidian GS
>any of the spider weapons, doesn't matter if Quelaag's or Freja's
>santier's spear
>gravelord greatsword

Don't really care about shields

>wanderer
>chester's
>gold-hemmed

>any illusory ring or ninja flip

>immolation
>lingering flame
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>>151052306
oh so it just happens to be music so bad it sounds royalty free
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Why is Vendrick so big?
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>>151046918
>Favor
>Life
>Chloranthy
All melee builds i have use these and then i got either;
>Havels
>Lingering Dragoncrest
>Pontiff Right Eye
>Leo
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>there are people who don't know that Leechmonger and Dirty Colossus from DeS were Holy Knight Lizaia and Moonlight Knight Bito
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>>151052797
If you had to carry the kind of weight he did every day you'd get big too.
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>>151052797
inb4 for you
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Why is Vendrick a pyrofag? I thought pyromancy was for Syrian gypsies with fetal alcohol syndrome.
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>>151051132
>he finally made an actually entertaining video
I knew he had it in him. Our little tryhard is finally growing up.
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>>151051557
>Kilij, Silver Knight Sword, Balder Side Sword,Demon's Great Machete
>Raven Goddess shield, Balder Shield
>Fluted Set, Balder set(restored, visor closed), Elite Cleric set
>Redeye Ring(with the red eyes effect like NPC Hollows)
>Soul suck, Tranquil Walk of Peace
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how's the knockback on emit force?
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>>151052543
lol Idgaf. signs back at the cleansing
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>miracles cost more to than pyromancies and do less damage
WHY?
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>>151051557

>Great Lord Greatsword, Sacred Chime Hammer, Puzzling Stone Sword, Santier's Spear
>Sanctum/Disc Chime, Crystal Ring Shield
>Steel set, Royal Soldier set, and Hexer set
>Gower's Ring of Protection
>Dark Greatsword and Lifedrain Patch
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>>151053071
t. hexcuck
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WHAT IS THIS THAT MY EYES SEE
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>>151053313
>Balder set(restored, visor closed)
HAHAHAHAHAHA

NEVER

N-E-V-E-R?

YOU WANT A CAPE?
A FUCKING PLUME?

TOO BAD
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>>151053657
Casca a cute. CUTE!
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>>151053504
>miracle users get their strongest offensive spell in NG+ while pyros can start shitting nukes barely halfway through the game
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>>151051557
Weapons
>Silver Knight Sword
>BK Sword(DS2 version)
>Obsidian GS
>Balder Side Sword

Shields
>Raven Greatshield
>Crystal Ring

Armour
>Fume Knight
>Alonne's
>Paladin

Ring
>Vanquisers seal

Spells
>Heavenly Thunder
>Splintering Lightning Spear
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>>151053668
Fuck you
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Best level/weapon level for early-mid game blueberrying?
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>>151053161
I liked the dead again one
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is smelter helm hex havel just a meme like giant dad or is it strong
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>>151054045
No one likes clerics. Pyros are cooler
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>>151054628
t. patches
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>dark hand early game
This is broken as fuck
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>>151054628
pyros are clerics as well with their 40 fai
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i want remy lacroix to sit on my dick RIGHT NOW
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>>151054404
He ought to stick to meme videos.
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>>151054948
>a cool character hates clerics
You're not making a good case for FTH
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>>151054451
There was two kinds of havel butt face users in ds2
It was the tryhards
And there was the people who read online that it was the best armor to use who usually got their shit kicked in by any competent player.
Yeah armor actually did something in ds2.
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>>151054451
It was the game's giant dad
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Thanks safety- I realized I'm going to be going around collecting everything and that's gonna be pretty boring for summons so that'll be all the co-op I'll be doing
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>>151055391
alright
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>>151025525
Like I've told people here before, Demon's Souls has the best single-player experience of any Souls games.

Story is basic and straightforward. The game's about the gameplay, through and through.

Music fucking kicks ass. I like the Demon's Souls OST better though because more Harpsichord is used, which makes it sound more "medevial-y" when compared to any of the Dark Souls games and Bloodborne, which are much more gothic with their use of Choir.

Hopefully a PS4 re-release of Demon's is coming. I really want them to fix the outstanding bugs (infinite stunlock w/ cestus headbutt, duplication glitches, etc) so that people here will stop saying "Demon's Souls is bad because online is busted because of bug abuse".
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>>151055451
Demon's and BB are both pretty good for single player.
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>blighttown runs at 10 fps in PS3
>they tested the game many times, they knew it would run at 10 fps but they didn't do anything about it

Why is Souls community full of nu-male cucks? Why do none of you complain about this, instead of bending over and taking it up the ass? Your mouth is full of Miyazaki's cum.
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>>151055387
more like the game's havelmom
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>>151055859
Naw, the game's havelmom involved BS protection gear and gyrm/minotaur helm.
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>>151055847
>Your mouth is full of Miyazaki's cum
Yes. Just see how they all reacted to DaS2 the second they learned Miyzazaki wasn't in it.
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>>151055847
>nu-male
stopped reading there
anytime you seem some newfag kid spew this forced new tumblr buzzword you can just discard the post
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Brotherhood of Blood or Blue Sentinels? Really love that blue aura.
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>>151054338
35? +2? Help anons of dsg.
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>>151056023
Miyazaki literally paid money to ENB for him to pretend he didn't enjoy the game
Best game in the series and lore-wise the only accurate one
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>>151055847
People complained about it all the time. How new are you?
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>>151056278
Not to mention the whole "you forgot who you are as you lose your purpose" is far more interesting than "you need magical humanity to not become a jerky lol".
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>>151056278
>you will never be paid to not enjoy games
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>>151055847
Because the community knows From is shit at the technical side of things but they excel in other areas of design.

Demon's / Dark Souls is such a compelling primarily single-player experience that has such an insane draw to it that a comment like "Wow, what a shit game, it only entertained me for 500 hours while the other games have entertained for over a 1000 each!" isn't really oit of the ordinary.
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>>151056442
I'd do it for free
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>>151056248
Any fast weapon, SS or CS are best
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>>151051557
>4 weapons
Dragon Bone Smasher
Golem Axe
Bone Fist
Gravelord Greatsword
>2 shields
Crystal Ring Shield, now a sorcery catalyst with unique L2
DS1 dark hand
>3 armor sets
Lord's Blade
Elite Cleric
Big Hat
>1 ring
Foe Ring
>2 spells
DS1 WoG
Karmic Justice
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>>151055847
the flow of time in blighttown is convoluted, with frames popping in and out of existence
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anyone want to get a FC going on the highwall?

Im willing to host if there is interest
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>if Lucatiel used the Human Effigy instead of giving it to you, she could've seen her brother
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>>151056730
>if Cloud used a Pheonix Down on Aerith, she would've seen Sephiroth's death
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>>151056730
>trying to make sense of ds2 lore
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>>151056723
I don't think you'll get burgers now
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>>151056730
I never finished her questline. Whenever I go talk to Carhillion before Flexile Sentry fight, she always falls into water and dies like the retard she is.
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>>151056730
if they rided the dragons to death mountain gandorf wouldnt of died
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>Need 62 VIT just to wear Smoughs armor and Hammer
>This is counting +2 Havels and favor
>At SL 125 you can't reach 35 35 VIG and END without going bellow the Hammers 1h requirements.
Just fuck my ass From.
Why bother putting it in if it is next to impossible to make usable?
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>>151056723
I'd be up for an FC anytime but there'll be more traffic in a couple of hours
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>>151056836
>ds3 lore
>LOL DAE REMEMBER DS1????
how original
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>>151056278
Bullshit but I believe anyway.
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>>151056989
Blame community who decided to stop metalevel at 120.
Just make him at 142.
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>launch DaS3
>"DarkSouls3.exe has stopped working"
Nice job From. You found how to stop me from finishing your shitty game.
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>>151057032
I think everyone was arguing 1 vs. 2 lores.
The amount of asshurt the retcons in 3 caused makes me hard though
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>>151057071
>pccucks
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>>151057071
Are you running any external programs? I had crashes at launch when I had two browsers hogging all the memory.
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>>151057032
>a direct sequel takes place in the same setting with the same recurrent characters
Call the press.
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>>151056730
I think you need to be taught how they work, in the intro you have no idea what it is until the old woman tells you to /really/ look at it.
So it's possible she found it and just went "wow this is weird, I'll give it to that mute fag I met the other day, they look like they're into weird shit"
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>>151057032
>say something that is retarded in ds2
>YEAH BUT THE OTHER GAME HAD THIS UNRELATED THING, SO STOP SHITTALKING DS2, OKAY?
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>>151057061
The problem is vit being useless. At 120 you can finish your build already by minmaxing and with how weak vit is, leveling further woupd break it
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>>151056825
Which weapon and armor should I use for my DaS2 Sephiroth build?
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Anyone here have that DS comic where the CU enters blighttown and he gets toxified by getting shit on and then starts crying?
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>>151056405
DaS2 fags really will say anything to defend their shit game, won't they?
Yeah, trying to reclaim your humanity to avoid hollowing sure does suck compared to pretending you're an Alzheimer's patient who wanders around killing people for no reason.
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>>151057061
>sub 600 AR
Vit needs to give more weight once you go over 30 The amount you need to make any of the actual heavy stuff usable is insane.
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>>151051557
Sacred Chime Hammer
Santier`s Spear
Bonefists
Blue Flame

Red Rust Shield
Watcher`s Shield

Dragonrider set
Wanderer set
Hexer`s set

Vanquisher`s Seal

Dance of Fire
Scraps of Life
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>>151057517
Hacked washing pole.
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>>151057483
>tanimura worms his way into lead designers and keeps the retarded endurance/vitality separation
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>>151056278
>lore-wise the only accurate one
next level shitposting
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>>151056989
Smough never used it one handed anyway.
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>>151057594
>>151057789
Here is for you.
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>>151051557
Meat Cleaver, Golem axe, Bewitched Alonne Sword, Loyce Greatsword

Sanctus, skull lantern

Fluted set, Paladin set, Alonne set
I'd say Penetrator set, but we never got that one to begin with

Fog ring

Lifedrain patch, Immolation
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>>151056989
>cosplaying Smough
>not fatrolling
What are you even doing?
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>you suddenly remember the sweet as fuck looking black dragon armor from ds2 along with the covenant
Why did they remove it?
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>>151056581
but better big hat is already in dark souls 3...
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>>151057680
Washing Pole any good in DaS2? Never used it because of the 20 durability. Also swings slower and uses more stamina.
>>
What are the differences between the spear and the winged spear? When I asked several months ago, everyone told me to use the winged spear, but the vanilla spear is lighter and deals as much damage.
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>>151058048
Maybe when armor actually does something and poise works I will do a 10 vit Smough build.
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>>151058076
It was the band-aid substitute for a dragon transformation
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>>151058091
With a mask
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>>151058048
>Smough's Hammer WA isn't charge

Why from. Why.
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>>151058091
it has a fucking mask, i don't need that shit
and i want that comfy robe
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>>151058148
Reach, WA. Winged also has better scaling so its damage will end up higher eventually.
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>>151058190
>From
>Consistency
KEK
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>>151056581
>Crystal Ring Shield, now a sorcery catalyst with unique L2
>unique L2
What button does it cast spells with, then?
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>>151058152
Maybe but the armor looked sick hopefully we get it in the DLC. The twink dragon transformation we get in this game is lame.
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>>151058280
L1.
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>>151058190

Does anyone have that webm of a guy doing a pike moveswap with Smough's Hammer in DaS1?
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>>151056524
>He does it for free
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>>151058280
L1
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>>151058369
>>151058398
Then how does it block?
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Post a more annoying Das1 build.
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>>151058190
the WA ought to be the buttslam, the WDr1 should be the charge
>inb4 from makes the hammer perform the charge
>they just copypaste spear charge animation so the head of the hammer looks to the side
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>>151058460
It doesn't unless two handed.

Are you mentally handicapped?
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>people are still responding and taking lucifers word about pvp seriously when he doesn't even have money to >pay for online

I fucking hate all of you.
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>>151058460
Make it block while casting animation is active.
It's a magic shield nigga, use your imagination.
>>
Anyone know if the great mace does more stamina damage to shields? There must be something good about this weapon.
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>>151058205
then wear the sorcerer's robe, it's the best fucking magic fashion in souls history since demon's souls and sage freke's set.

there are so many head items you can wear that put the hood up. I just wish it would work with the Crown of Dusk :c
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>>151056989
>>151056989
>>151057943
Also:
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>>151058607

No, there's nothing good about that weapon.
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Not quite sure why this guy didn't attack me or roll twice. Either he was being contolled by a dog or out of stamina
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>>151058607
Nope.
It has the longest reach of the greathammers, though. That's the thing that costs it all that extra weight, stamina cost and damage compared to every other greathammer.

It's a shame reach is irrelevant with greathammers because their 2HR1 buries half of the weapon in the ground and consequently has a fixed range regardless of the length of the hitbox.
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>>151057313
Found it. It was Skype. Thanks.
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>>151058465
>roll twice and backstab because avelyn has YUUUGE recovery
nice meme kiddo
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>>151058654
it would be so fucking perfect if you could use it to hide the dusk crown
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>>151058757
He was using a greataxe that wasn't Yhorms, he knew his fate.
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>>151058226
WA?
>>
Are there any good "roaming warrior" looking armour sets in Dark Souls 1?
>>
>the way cathedral knights use their greatmaces and ugs
>the way the lothric knight use their ugs

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE MOVESETS THIS COOL

WHY ARE WE STUCK WITH THIS

SHHHHUUUUOOOOOOOOOOO PUMB

SUUUHOOOOO PUMP
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>Slowly learning how to fix my recordings to not be so choppy
>recordings of my play seem to have better graphics and at a higher fps than my actual game

Do I need to be playing this game in windowed mode at 720 resolution to get good video output?
>>
Trying to do a Pyromancer build in DaS3 is like thrusting a gigantic spiked dildo in your ass.
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>>151058946
The fugitive knight.
>>
>>151058946
knight helm and wanderer chest
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>>151058116
It's complete trash. That alone makes das2 the best game in the series.

Uchigatana is fucking stupid, though.
>>
>>151059086
Pyro is the easiest caster, quit bitching.
>>
>>151059086
Pyro curbstomps pve. It's probably the single easiest build to floor the game with, even straightsword R1 mashing doesn't trivialize the game to the same degree that pyro does.

In pvp it's easily the strongest and most viable casting type.
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>>151059086
pyromancer is literally easy mode, the fuck is wrong with you
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>>151058465
Put the last points wherever you like.
>>
>mfw can't get the armor of thorns because I killed the boss and red phantoms don't spawn
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>>151059053
how do i spam r1 with such class?
>>
>>151058116
It's shit, use chaos blade
>>
>>151028342
what is that fucking gaping anus of a face
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>>151059051
>instead of using LHB animations for UGS and amygdalan arm animations for greatclubs they've decided to use ds1 ones
>>
>>151059051

>Dragonslayer Armor uses a variety of slashes, jumping attacks, and even a unique running attack for its long as fuck Greataxe
>the player version of it can just do downward vertical slashes and a shitty parryable WA explosion and that's it on the shortest Greataxe in the game
>>
>>151059156
>>151059216
>>151059217
I dunno guys, I tried to kill the Old demon king for the OP pyro but I literally do 2 dmg per swing / cast to him while he can knock me back on my ass then one-shot me while I'm recovering.
>>
>>151059445
i want to shove my penis in there
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>>151059478
>shortest Greataxe in the game
That would be the Greataxe
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>>151059502
Poison mist and boulder heave you unrepentant cuck.
>play a caster that has access to like 4 different damage types
>waaaah one of my damage types isn't effective against this boss I hate adapting this whole build is shit waaaah
>>
>>151059502

Get Dark Fire Orb from Karla before doing ODK. You can get Chaos Fireball from Demon Ruins without killing ODK anyway which is all you need really.
>>
>>151059478
Both the Greataxe and Demon's Greataxe are signifcantly short, like half the length of the DSGA

The lack of a stance WA like the boss has is a total piss off, but reach is the one thing that it does have going for it.
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>>151058465
>>
>>151059502
>can toxic him
>can delay it until Karla and use edge spells
>can just get Tsorig
>>
>>151033304
You can do it, anon.

I just did it myself last night, and went down almost 12 times to her before I got it done. Most satisfying victory yet.

Now, I've got to get my ass kicked by Pontiff/Champ/NK/Homo Princes
>>
>>151051557
Red Rust Sword or Scim, maybe both as a paired weapon
Silver knight pokestick
Sinner's sword
Demon's GA

Balder shield
Cursed Bone

Black dragon as a regular armor set
Mad warrior
Allone's

Yorgh's ring

Immolation
Soul Flash
>>
>>151058789
Does it really have the longest range of greathammers? Doesn't look very long.
>>
>>151059502
ODK is like the one boss you can't easily kill with pyromancy.

Go get dark pyro spells, or make a crystal/raw+buff weapon.
>>
>>151059476
I do wish they lept those but adjusted the speed of the game down. Free dark wood grain rings were a mistake
>>
>>151059629
>Boulder Heave
Ok, sounds shit but I'll try.

>Poison mist
He's resistant to poison you fucking cuck. Any other brilliant strategy?

I like how the only help I can get in game is a fucking Pyromancer.
>>
>>151058076
Ah fuck you
i remember
>>
>>151059747
By the time you reach ODK, you have access to Boulder Heave, Black Snake, Poison Mist and Toxic Mist.
You can spam sneks from a safe distance, since he's weak to dark. You can stack both %-based DoTs on him at once. You can bury him under high-poisebreak strike damage boulders up close in his massive melee-range blindspot since he's both weak to strike damage and extremely vulnerable to poise breaking.

You literally have all the tools to dumpster that boss without needing to run away with your tail between your legs. The fact that someone goes up to a fire boss, hucks a fireball and then says "yup, can't win, I'm fucked" is absolutely mind-boggling.
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>>151059892
>Red Rust Sword or Scim, maybe both as a paired weapon

I wanted this so much...
>>
>>151060032
>He's resistant to poison
He's literally not. He's extremely vulnerable to both poison and toxic. 2 clouds of each to trigger the effect

You'd know that if the big scawy demon wasn't cucking you out of the best spell in the game because you're too dense to vary your damage types.
>>
>>151058654
>DS2 DLC brought back Freke's set
>its not in DS3
I just wanted those comfy robes and hat dammit
>>
>>151060032
You can literally summon Tarkus 0.5 woth a stupid weapon who still deals decent damage and should make it doable
>>
>>151059874
I don't have Tsorig since I wasn't embered when doing Carthus, and he's resistant to poison & toxic. Didn't do Cathedral yet so no Karla for now.
>>
>>151060306
Cuculus is actually better for ODK, deals about the same damage and is actually on point with estus
>>
>>151053657
Does Guts sex that girl or is he a total beta orbiter?
>>
>>151060498
Tsorig doesn't estus because he's not undead
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>>151053313
>Kilij, Silver Knight Sword, Balder Side Sword,Demon's Great Machete
>Fluted Set, Balder set(restored, visor closed), Elite Cleric set
>Soul suck, Tranquil Walk of Peace
Are you me?
>>
>>151060306
I DONT HAVE TARKUS 0.5

Ok guys, I'll try the poison thingy, thanks and wish me luck.
>>
>>151060573
But he chases alluring skulls
>>
>>151060375
Just stack toxic clouds and poison arrows than run away non-stop then if you're this big of a bitch, he gets affected eventually
>>
>>151060498
>deals about the same damage
>is on point with estus

You must be a very lucky guy anon, my cuculus is always right underneath ODK with 10 health left
>>
>>151060647
He's also not very bright.
>>
anyone using a god tier weapon is a mouth breathing tard that needs their hand held and cock locked up to win
>>
>>151049274
I felt bad about killing Ludwig in Bloodborne.

Poor guy is just a fucking beast now. Imagine turning into that monstrosity. Fucking 10/10 soundtrack, though.
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>>151060571
He fucks her and then gets keked by a demon.
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>>151028340
Stand behind it and attack its tail, with a good weapon you can do some decent chip damage, but what you want is for it to do its jump attack. Once it does, turn around and charge your R2, make sure you don't move either, cause you'll get memed on. With this strategy, it'd be hard to fuck up and die

As return, I want you to post your hands
>>
So just to make sure I'm not missing anything: poison infusion on a weapon that already has poison is a complete waste of time?
>>
>>151060852
>poison is a complete waste of time?
Yes.
>>
>>151051557
Just fucking give me Ornstein's armor with the plume

Fucking please. It looks so shitty without it.
>>
>>151060571
he sexes her like once after he returns, since she was being tsundere as fuck. then they go get griffith, are constanty on the run and then she gets raped
>>151060821
it still amazes me that he raped her in the positions shown in the book he gave guts before the assassination
>>
>>151060695
Tell me where the carthus touched you
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>>151060852
>poison infusion is a complete waste of time?
Yes.
>>
>>151060852

Yes, just put Rotten Pine Resin on it if so. Doing so on a fully upgraded Spotted Whip for example is one of the few reliable ways to inflict poison especially if you hit someone with the full WA.

Shame poison does only 2 damage a tick and is easily curable through a single quick moss.
>>
NEW THREAD

>>151060965
>>151060965
>>151060965
>>
>>151060852
>poison
>is a complete waste of time?
Yes. Actually if poison was viable it would be optimal for PvP since everyone would be spite kiting or duel charming the buff. But it's not.
>>
>>151060778
>10/10 soundtrack
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8
You're god damn right buddy
>>
>>151060852
Yes. There's no benefit other than a tiny boost to the poison value at the expense of all of your damage. All of the infusable weapons with innate poison are already low on damage, so removing even more damage is not really an option. It also prevents them from being buffed, and rotten resin is way better than the infusion ever could be. And I mean that seriously, a weapon with 0 innate poison + rotten resin deals more buildup than a poison-infused poison weapon.

The bleed infusion has a hidden, secondary effect in that it adds an additional flat bonus damage to a bleed proc inflicted by it, scaling with the weapon's enhance level. It's still objectively worse than just rouging something, but at least it's something. Poison infusion has no such hidden benefit.
>>
More stamina loss on consecutive rolls fucking when, just had a host roll around for 30 seconds straight.
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>>151060228
I had no clue because I never searched the DLC head-to-toe for items. Perfect for my Sorcerer in SOTFS. :D
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