/twg/ - Total War General

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superior GOBLINS coming through

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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general

Say my name

SAY MY NAME

>>150943517
I don't know about Parthia.

When Islam rose, the Byzantine Empire was reeling from a destructive war with the Sassanid Empire. This allowed the huge and fresh armies of the Rashidun Empire to expand into the neighbouring depopulated and scarcely defend Byzantine territories in the Levant, Syria and Egypt. The other territories in Africa were simply too far away and unvaluable to defend. Add into the equation that they were completely unexpecting the previously harmless Arab tribes to unite and do such a thing and it isn't much of a surprise they had such success. However note that they were never really threatened by the Arabs, only unable to defend their far-away provinces when outnumbered so heavily. Even the Turks were not capable of existentially threatening the Greeks until the Fourth Crusade. After this they were weakened irreparably and the Turks could finally finish them off.

>play Empire
>get to undistputed #1 territory due to tech and massive cash flow
>16k a turn on lowest taxes not even 30 years in and Im working on controling trade nodes but dont have any yet
>sudden error on new turn
>deletes autosave
>have to go back to before I took all my good land
Why game why

>>150944372
>Not doing it in your goblin voice

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SAY MY NAME

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What do the lines over Khazrak's stats mean? They only show when I hover over to purchase the chariot.

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>Rise of Persia v3.0 will never be released

>>150944423
OIM GRIMGORRR

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TOMB KANGZ WHEN?


Also why does the Empire have so many mages, yet they still suck compared to elven mages.

>>150944504
they show the increase in stats after upgrading

>>150944504
They show how the stats will change when swapping over to a chariot.
So, less melee attack and defense, but a higher speed and charge bonus.

>>150944915
Variety is all they have going for them. Elves have an even greater variety that includes their own special lores while also getting bonuses to cast, but I don't trust CA to reflect superiority in casters when bray shamans can get extra magic easier than mannfred von carstein.

>>150944915
January to July 2017 is the time period in which the KANGZ will be released

>>150944915
WE

>>150944915
The Empire is the only faction that has access to all the eight core lores.

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NAGASH

>>150944435
Same pretty much with them, war with the ERE had gutted them and they where not recovered for when the mudslimes invaded, basically how they expanded so quickly is from them attacking when everybody else was weakened by fighting with others.

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>Medieval III still not announced

>>150944504
The bars show you what the base stats will be using the mount.

Man my gelt is only level 17 and hes already a god.

Did they change when Chaos comes in the latest patch? I'm on turn 74 and they still haven't come yet

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G O B L I N S

>>150946207
Good

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>Playing WRE in Attila

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>>150946535
>Grobi posting in my general
That's a grudging

WoC campaign question:

Should I recruit a new horde early in the game (first 20 turns) and spam marauder units (autoresolvelol) or should I just focus on one with better units until I can recruit another legendary lord?

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>>150945748
>When you say Nagash was weak but u really scared of him

>>150946207

Hezbollah are the modern Crusaders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvWHbBOrBeo

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>>150946535
G O B L... Wait, something's... different.

>>150946895
>only 2 different faces

never noticed this before

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>Empire Secessionists has invited Marienburg against us!
>Marienburg has invited Nordland against us!
>Nordland has invited Middenland against us!

How about you fuck off my dick

>>150947245
Make sure to get our Faces and Snots pack only for 15$!

>>150947303
>letting Secessionists live past turn 5
>letting Marienburg live past turn 15

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>>150944915
I honestly don't care all that much when people of different ethnicities portray historical characters in theater. It's just a play, as long as they don't try to be retarded and argue against historical facts.

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>>150945748
Go home Manfaggot you're drunk

>>150947561
>playing on anything below Hard

>>150942430
>those cunts refuse to trade with me
Can't have you get a better deal than them, silly manlet.

>>150947571
this desu

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>High Elves still not announced

>>150948167
That is on hard.

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>>150948289
the fuck is this abomination?

I don't think I've EVER played a defending siege battle in a campaign.

Usually either the AI only hits settlements that just happen to not have their walls yet, or they siege forever until attrition and I can never get them to attack the walls.

>>150948548
i get them regularly. however i also get beastmen continuing to be powerful and a threat in the late game so i don't know what's unusual about my games.

>>150948548
yeah, i've had one and it was super fucking fun - ragtag bunch of orcs kicking the shit out of the dwarf king and his men. it was so tough. that was about 10 days after release, and i haven't had one since. it's so disappointing. I think if attrition was removed from sieging and you could only build 1 siege unit, the AI would always do an instant siege.

>>150948402
So then why aren't you already fending off 2 dwarf factions and beastmen by the time you finish off the province? Don't bullshit me.

>>150948548
I usually get them when playing as VC.

I fucking hate beastmen

>>150948985
>2 dwarf factions attacking you by turn 5-15
How do you fuck up that badly?

>beastmen
Yeah, they're a bitch, but you can easily remove them if they don't send multiple stacks for your ass.

>>150949849
That corruption is fucking bullshit, i'm 50 turns in and empire is already half corrupted

I just noticed that although the Beastmen's chaos hounds look awesome and different, their poison hounds are exactly the same as Warriors of Chaos. Thanks CA

>confederate with dwarfs in Badlands
>settlements everywhere, no walls, no economy, one army filled with miners
My autism can't take this

>play bestmen campaign
>only 2 (two) land battles
>everything else was sieges

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B A T S

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Vampire Chans huge butt!!!!

>>150950080
>fuck up
>implying there's a choice involved

What's good for beastmen in multi-player?

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>>150950990
>tfw no giant vampire-chan mod

>>150950990
I'm going to mock Vampire-Chan!

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>>150951212
No you wont! Do not mock her!

>>150951006
>dwarfs south of Reikland get invited to war by secessionist
>war actions against secessionist gives me positive points with them
>they ask for peace a few turns later without fighting me
Diplomacy is fucking retarded

those fading captcha are annoying as fuck

>>150951770
I'm convinced that the fading captchas are impossible to solve. Just use the legacy captchas.

Hopefully by the end of next month I will order the parts for my new computer. Is Rome 2 finally worth purchasing? Or should I just skip to Attila? Med2 and Rome 1 just age terribly. They are terrible games when playing them these days.

>>150946525
It was turn 90 for me.

>>150951883
Most of the time they work, sometimes they glitch out though.

>>150946852
Hezbollah are modern what the crusaders and much of Europe had to fight.

Sadly the west is too much of a pussy bitch now

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>>150952232
Forgot pic.

>>150948289
That's not how you make a potato salad.

>>150952232
I'd just skip, it's fixed mostly, but that don't change the fact that it's shit even without the bugs

>>150950326
>>150949849
Chaos Warriors also corrupt

Getting anti-corruption units is necessary to defeat evil

>>150950826
>karak azul has five settlements and no army
>they're willing to confederate
>don't want to do that yet
>wipe out grimgor
>they only have 1 stack of crap and 3 settlements
>will no longer confederate

CA is basically forcing me to declare war on my allies because they're being dumb assholes

>>150952232
Skip Rome 2, Ancient Empires will probably be out by then.

Don't talk shit about med2 and Rome 1

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>>150953494
I talk shit about them because I have played both since the day they were released and they are horribly shallow, slow games. Though Rome 1 is better in most ways except graphics and not having blood like Med2.

Thanks for the advice on Rome 2 and Attila.

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>>150950894
RATS

Should I recruit a new lord asap in chaos campaign or just wait until I can unlock legendary lords?

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

>>150953886
You can always replace the generic lord after you unlock a legendary one.

>no ancient empires
>no medieval kingdoms
come on modders

>>150953962
I genuinely hope you commit suicide.

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>>150946694
I honestly had a harder time with the ERE.

The WRE is pretty easy, if you just raze all of your cities to the ground, and just stay in Italy/Northern Africa. It really fucks over the barbarians and other tribes, and gives you time to regroup.

The ERE can't really do that, and starts with like 3 hordes in their territory and war with the Sassanids, who are the other large empire.

>Orkz and Dwarves are boring because their entire campaign is fighting each other
>VC campaign is boring because all you do is fight humans and wait around for your corruption to spread

Is Empire fun? What about Chaos?

I've tried 3 different campaigns, and not really had fun as any of them. The battles are great, but the campaign maps for the factions are really lacking.

>>150953962
I hope that if by some miracle you have children, that you outlive them.

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>>150953695
ANTIOCHUS!

>no female dorf LL
why live

>>150950990
>Still no lewd mods
>Still no rule 34

This isn't the internet I knew and respected.

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>>150955350
>Not recognizing that Thorgrim is a beautiful orc maiden

THATS A GRUDGING

>>150955012
You're going to fight Orcs and Beastmen early as Empire as well, maybe even Dwarves if you're really unlucky.
Chaos is just running from 65648 Norsca stacks and eventually steamrolling everything.

>>150953962
I hope you tread on a lego.

>>150953962
I hope Gené will actually come out, just to trigger some autists.

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Bird boobs!

>>150953102

Yeah but WoC don't show up to Reikland 10 turns in with 2 half stacks. Empire needs some campaign tweaks.

Worship buildings need a price and tier re-balancing. I can't afford to build a 3000 Shrine to Shitmar in Altdorf 10 turns in that has a measly -4 to corruption.

>>150955807
>Gené

DRAGON KICK YOUR ASS INTO THE MILKY WAY

>>150956274
Corruption in Badlands can be a pain too and the buildings are 10k

Anyone else getting a bug after the last update with loading screens occasionally freezing? The progress bar will get about 90% full and then stop. I left the game open for an hour once to test and it never finished loading. It happens to about 10% of my loading screens for campaigns, battles, etc..kind of annoying.

Why are the Chaos gods so much more active in their interference with the mortal world than all the other gods?

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>>150955661

>>150955026
>wanting someone you hate to be a perpetual

>>150956806
Chaos gods like having fun.

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Does anyone else find that Archaon et al show up way too early for the Empire?

I'm rushing about trying to conquer/negotiate various factions into confederating with me, yet the chaos hordes always show up while I've often got big chunks still left to claim.

Obviously, you don't NEED the whole Empire united, I've always beat them without too many issues, but the fact all your human rivals suddenly love you when Archaon shows up and jump into your Empire feels like it's robbing me of the challenge of unifying them, plus it detracts from Chaos as some final enemy to defeat.

I mean, Chaos shows up and starts trashing shit, but it never feels bad because the Empire was already war ridden before, they're not overcoming my nice, peaceful cities, they're battering themselves against what are essentially armed camps that have been churning out a endless line of cheap cannon fodder since turn 1.

I'd like it more if you had time to unite the Empire, build some nice civil infrastructure and engage in some minor wars with the Border Princes/Dorfs/Greenskins THEN Chaos shows up and shits on everything.

As is it, Chaos is dead in what feels like mid-game, everyone human or dwarf loves me and the Empire was united by a massive diplomatic boost caused by a game mechanic, leaving me with nothing to do really.

Also Kislevite Bear Cavalry when?

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>>150955350
>dwarf girls

>>150957145
Only one Kislevite that we know of rides a bear.

Can somebody help me out with army composition?

It feels way different from earlier total war games in which I had no issues.

Now I'm paying Empire on Hard and getting better results from autoresolves than real battles.

It feels like every faction just rolls over my infantry line.

Brettonia flew over it and attacked my artillery
Chaos chariots just ran through it and attacked my missile units
Beastmen just melts it with minotaurs

I'm using:

Karl Franz on hyppogryph
Melee Specialist
Battle Wizard

2x Great Swords
4x Halbediers

3x Handgunners

2x Reikland Guards
2x Gryphon cavalry with halbediers
2x Outriders

2x Hellfire Artillery

>>150947571
this. Theatre and film are just expressions of art, they aren't real obviously.

>>150956806
They're assholes and because the warp gates in the polar regions provide a direct link to the realm of chaos

So why is Karl Franz called 'Franz' when his surname is Holswig-Schliestein?

So is there any particular reason why non-provincial capitals can't go to tier 5? Like I'm trying to figure out a balance reason for it but I'm struggling to find one.

>>150957268
But Kislev uses war bears though, they just don't ride them

>>150957529
"Cavalry" implies that someone's riding them.

>>150957145
That's a big dog.

>>150957525
>why can't towns that represent tiny backwaters go as high as the largest city in the province

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>>150957608
They have bears and cavalry in close proximity

>>150957680
That's a bear, this is a dog

>>150957145
I feel the campaign overall goes way too fast

>>150957525
It would invalidate horde factions.

>>150956632
pls respond

>>150957145

The Empire campaign sucks dick and is arguably the hardest if you consider the plethora of bullshit both RNG and scripted the have to deal with in a province that sucks balls.

>Beastmen b-line to Reikland now because they start off at war with you
>Rebels are faggots that manage to get other neighboring factions to go to war with you
>Atleast 1/3 or more of your neighbors will have Imperial Distrust
>The Reikland -> Marienburg escalation is necessary but the difficulty spike is way to high that early on
>Empire buildings are fucked in terms of cost and tier location
>Tier 3 siege weapons at the earliest, garbage ones at that

>>150957931
That's obviously a lion.

>>150957478
You never really call royalty by their dynasty name though. Like "Emperor Holswig-Schliestein" or "Herr Holswig-Schliestein"

It only gets mentioned at the REALLY formal occasions. No idea why they only use Franz sometimes though. The first name of a monarch with a double name could have been used alone though.

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Hashut want more slaves!!!

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Fimir fucking WHEN???

>>150958013

Didn't stop them in Attila though

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>>150957145
my empire experience was pretty spot on with the help of some RP

>conquer the rebel settlements
>have 2 provinces in my control
>start diplomacy with all the other factions
>the north men are hard to deal with at first
>eventually manage to get every human faction into some sort of alliance
>I have united the states
>chaos starts to overrun the north
>Karl Franz marches north
>I manage to stave off the chaos invasion twice, losing my armies in the process both times
>the human nations now love me for my valiant sacrifice
>every single human nation is now in a military alliance with me
>slowly start confederating
>Stirland and averland are fighting off the orc/vampire counts the entire time
>me, ostland, nordland, and middenland are fighting chaos off in the north
>I manage to pull all of the bretonnians and the dwarves into alliances with me
>I have united the entire fucking map against chaos
>I issue almost 2 dozen war targets
>the AI listens to my calls
>instead of trying to manage corrupted land and maintain my own armies
>I use the AI armies to do my bidding
>when all seems lost after several large defeats
>the bretonnians finally show up
>an army of knights lead by Louen himself
>we defeat archaeon and save the world from the hordes of chaos
>none of my provinces ever see any invading forces
>I am now confederating everyone I can, when I can


It was actually a perfect victory in my eyes. Through diplomacy I managed to control every good faction on the map in about 120 turns. Because everyone loved me they would actually listen when I set military targets. and I never had to worry about managing any of my provinces, they were 100% happy the entire game. The only lame part about this campaign was that Karl Franz was my highest level general at level 15, Because I wasn't fighting many battles to conquer he didn't get as much xp, When I recruited balthasar I sent him right into sylvania to deal back up stirland and deal with the vampire counts.

>>150957931
i want to ride that doggo

>>150957478
>Holswig-Schliestein
>Stein

OY VEY

Why are secondary ll so annoying to unlock?

>>150960396
it all makes sense now...

Ancient Empires just BTFO all other mods with this one simple trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR174IqalKQ

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>>150956024

>>150960851
>tfw never played Rome 2 so have no idae what is so special.

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>>150960851
Yooooo holy shit.

Is there a mod to get rid of the AI shitting out death stacks in a single turn? I'm getting real sick of defeating them one turn only for them to show back up with another 20/20 death stack before I can even get my troops recovered. This shit is getting retarded.

>>150960851
That doesn't make sense, I thought the senate had to approve all creations of new Legions. That looks like the general can create another one as he pleases

>>150961316
that's Attila

>>150961479
welcome to the Total War games

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>>150960851
Wait, are the captains actually still part of the main army? Wow that is pretty cool. Would love seeing it come up in other mods.

>>150961520
This is one of those situations when historical accuracy can be neglected for the sake of good gameplay.

>tfw you will never see and control a full-size legio on screen

jdimsa

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>>150956938

>>150961520
>That doesn't make sense, I thought the senate had to approve all creations of new Legions. That looks like the general can create another one as he pleases
Oh piss off, you don't have to recruit a general every time you want to move a few units across the map now. Besides, you're the fucking player, you are the government.
>>150961708
Apparently they can level up into generals in their own right, or they get folded back into a force and "die" if you merge them back before that.
>>150961316
In Rome 2 and Attila, and Warhammer, you can only move or create an army with a character general, you can't simply split some troops off and send them somewhere or whatever, you need a general every time, which can only be recruited from a city.

>No state musicians for Empire Troops
>No Sergeants leading Empire Troops
>No Standard Bearers for Empire Troops

W H Y

>>150961765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAIHzXkCxDs
There's a full size legion in this video.

>>150960851
>Each captain gets a full strength 300 unit of principes

Because that isn't a shit feature.

>>150962126
>having techs add any sort of visuals instead of just raw stats
Can you imagine how many jabberslythes this would cost?

>>150962146
Captains will have their own small unit which isn't set up yet.

www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?737403-Game-Mechanic-Split-Army-(WIP)&goto=newpost

>>150960851
>tfw I like the lack of captains

Well that's one mod off the wishlist.

>>150962142
muh dik

cannot wait for AE

>>150962380
Why would you like such an pointless, unhistorical and restrictive feature?

How many heroes do you have in your armies?

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>every empire campaign Stirland are the biggest bros and are always keeping the Vampire cunt's in check
>all the other provinces bully and kill them off while they're weakened.

Stop this you undead sympathising faggots!

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>mfw i invite every bretonnian faction into war with the beastmen

i like how friendly the "good guys" are with each other now free +5s everywhere

>>150962526
Because it puts more focus on the larger armies rather than letting you form a dozen smaller ones.

>>150962817
One or two. More feels unnecessary, considering how some heroes don't even have any unique benefits for keeping them in an army.
Celestial wizard for Empire.
Vampire-chan for Vampire cunts, sometimes a Necromancer for secondary armies.
Memesmith for Dorfs.
Haven't played enough of orcs yet.

It's amazing how quickly the tide can turn against you. Hard Empire campaign, I made a mistake of spending time trying to be diplomatic and I didnt push forward to take care of VC until about turn 80 or 90. I had Stirland allied and I thought they would help, but as soon as I pushed to VC terrain Stirland just ran off and left me there on my own.

I was doing alright at first and got VC pushed all the way back to Castle Drakenhof being their only settlement, but they pulled a huge fat stack out of their ass. sallied out, and broke my siege (I had 2 full stacks with both LL's, demigryphons, mages, etc).

I retreated one army to Eschen and the other ran towards Zhufbar... the VC then followed and smashed Karl Franz in Eschen and just obliterated him. They spawned like another stack or two from that battle and suddenly pushed west just shitting on everything I had captured up until then because the garrisons couldnt hold out.

Now Chaos is taking Hochland from me, my diplomatic alliances are breaking because so much infighting going on between the humans, and my trade agreements with basically everyone is being dropped. Income is down and I'm having trouble recuptering and building Karl Franz's army back up fast enough to stop the VC but even if I can, they have like 4-5 full stacks now. I can't hold against that. None of my allies will come to help despite me setting war coordination targets.

I was steamrolling up until here :( Oh well, RIP

>>150962817
If the lord is a wizard I'll have a melee hero and vice versa, but if I'm launching an invasion I'll round all the heroes up and put them all in armies, except for the assassination specialists.

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Are pike walls shit in Attila or am I just not using them right. The gothic armies get fucked for infantry because their pikes are supposed to form the base for your armies, but the pike walls get massacred by everything.

>warhammer cracked

LMAO

you people got jewed for nothing

>>150964265
They are shit, they nerfed em down from rome 2 levels too much.

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>>150964265
>because their pikes are supposed to form the base for your armies

?????

Is Prince of Macedon autistic?

>>150964265
Why don't you just use roman units? Or Gothic Warband?

Can't go wrong with gothic warband

>>150964493
you mean thracian infantry :^))))))))))))))

>>150964286
Only took near 4 months, and forces you to use a fake steam account.

>>150962817
I have one army with all the melee heroes I have + one wizard.

All other armies have nothing.

>>150964046
No master engineer for dorf?

>>150964487
He's a manlet, that's enough, who cares what else is wrong with him?

>>150964870
Top right ruined it

Anybody else feel that this game needs more waifus?

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>>150965216

Better?

>>150965297
Bretty gud

>>150964997
I love everything about the engineers, but they seem useless in combat. Feels like having another proper unit would do more good than just carrying around a buffbot for our ranged.

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>>150959185
After the 16 major factions are included and modders get access to more freedom.

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>>150964870

>>150962817
Typically 1.

I'll throw a caster in if its a melee lord like GRIMGOR, but if it's a caster lord I'll throw in a melee hero.

Do you get more spells for Archaon?

>>150962817
With my current dwarf campaign I throw in a master engineer into arty heavy armies and that's it.

Is there a mod to make the AI more prone at following your orders as chaos?

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For some reason all of my campaign map labels are gone... how do I get them back? I tried restarting the game

>>150965502
what mod is that?

>>150968989
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=697661736

Me and a friend are playing a co-op campaign and he's using this to play as the Brets.

https://rarbg.to/torrent/pqvgnwt

I don't get why the fuck do Beastmen get an idol that still spreads corruption when they raze something, but WoC doesn't.

>>150968489

It's a keyboard command, it should be listed in controls. try N or K, i don't remember what the button actually is

>>150969561

Lazy I guess? It doesn't even make sense for Beastmen to spread Chaos, at least from a gameplay perspective.

When I play my beastmen campaigns I actually do everything I can to AVOID spreading chaos. If Chaos rebels spawn, they are hostile and at war with me... how is that a benefit? Why would I want to spawn an army that will attack me?

>>150969696
stupid animals dont know any better

>>150969561
They probably saw the complaints about WoC when they got released and changed it for beastmen, but it's one of those features that really should be folded into WoC, just like the raze/sack optioms.

>>150969561
Is there a way to remove those idols without colonising a settlements?

>>150970149
I don't think so
Enjoy your +1 corruption from osmosis as Empire if the beastmen raze the dawi near you

>>150969561

There was a mod months ago that added +1 corruption or something from every chaos portal to WoC

It was retardedly OP, playing as non chaos with the mod on was literally impossible

>>150970801
On global corruption is fucking stupid, but not on the province itself

>>150971102

I'm talking about osmosis

>>150970678
So i have to take over all those razed settlements quickly which will fuck my public order? Thanks CA

>>150970678
+1 corruption is fucking nothing. It's just a mild annoyance that gives an incentive to help out your neighbors.

Haven't bought Warhammer so I'm just wondering...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El1d_RfYW6k

A fucking 5000 man battle gets completed in 5 minutes? Are battles this fast in this game?

>>150972063
Early game is a pain. And I'm pretty sure that it stacks, so it ranges from +1 to +3 per adjacent province

>>150964487
Prince of Macedon is based my friend

>>150972436
Torrent is up so you don't have to buy
There are mods that slow down combat

>>150966063
>letting some git take kills away from GRIMGOR

>>150972436
Vanilla TW was always fast, I had battles in M1 end in mass routs as soon as first contact. Troop quality and morale matter more than numbers.

>denuvo won't get cracked
There wasn't anyone that seriously believed this, right?

>>150972807
Denuvo wasn't cracked

>>150972436
It's the same speed as Shogun II battles, usually lasting between 8 and 20 minutes.

Notice how the guy in the video has nothing but anti-morale and AoE weapons, being used against the faction with the weakest morale.

>>150972807
More like no one really cared. Piracy hurts the most right after release so the protection did its job.

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>>150950990
>posting vampire sluts

>>150972807
>implying it is cracked
Enjoy that botnet, famarama.

>>150972901
bypassed
what matters is we won't to pay for the dlc

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>>150950990
>>150955543
>still no sfm animation

>>150972807
Denuvo got cracked back in 2014. 'Denuvo is impenetrable' is a meme.

>>150972996
with the amount of extra content games get the release doesn't matter as much

>>150973081
We'll see

>>150973095

>tfw learn SFM
>tfw spend months practicising with a dead end software

Tips to play as orcs ? I seriously need to git gud

>>150973443
>dead end
Some animators make like, 12 bucks a month making porno animations

>>150973060
>falling for the botnet meme

>>150973443
Well you better bring vampirechan to your work

>>150973525
Get a Waaagh!
Walk around with your Waaagh!
Auto-resolve every single fight in the campaign thanks to your Waaagh!

>>150973575
hell even stills do

>>150973240
It sure does, that's one of the moments when the game costs more and preorders get used as an indication of general interest, which is a factor when planning how many resources are put in future content. We get more additional content because the game sold well, if a release fails they'll just cut losses.

>>150973575
Well, most are shit animations

Are we ever going to get another another lord for VC

I'm tired of Mannfred and his wifebeater armor

>>150973680
>auto-resolving
the point of the campaign is to result in battles

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>>150958907
Hashut Kazukit-ha

>>150973919
This month, no?

>wifebeater armor
Fuck you.

>>150973680
It's better to fight the battle. That way you can minimize the casualties to your own troops. You can always get a new Waaagh! once the first one is too beat up.

>>150973983
>fuck you
I'll show you who's the boss of this crypt

>>150957338
For starters, you want more Greatswords. They are your endgame line infantry. If you want halberdiers, just get 2 to cover each flank at most.

Drop the outriders. Really, really bad unit. The Empire has some of the best cavalry in the game (demigryphs), so try to field some more of those. Reiksguard are good, too, if you're broke.

Handgunners are interchangeable with Crossbowmen. Swap in handgunners when you're up against high armor enemies (chaos, dwarfs) and crossbowmen against the others. Handgunners are excellent flanking units, too.

Which hellfire artillery is it? Is it the rocket one or the minigun one? I'm not too fond of either. The rocket one is only good imo on a large hill and the minigun one takes too much set up.

In regards to those enemies;

Bretonnia rarely fields pegasus knights, so you shouldn't have to deal with it too often. If I have to leave my artillery undefended, I leave 1 shitty melee unit with them.

Chaos chariots are complete AIDS. Really powerful unit, you need to swamp it with all sorts of shit just so it can't get away, and for its initial charge, put a halberdier up front.

Beastmen units have next to no armor, and most of their units are pretty shitty (everything but bestigors and minotaurs, and maybe centigors (gw)). You can counter them pretty hard with a light wizard with the Spider Web spell that immobilizes units for like 15 seconds, giving your ranged units plenty of time to fuck up their charge and your melee units time to charge them while not being charged into themself.

Also, you may wanna do a few custom battles as Empire against AI armies with units you struggle against. I used to suck dick at chasing mounted archers, but now I handle them easily enough. I hope this helps.

>post yfw u realize nagash was not weak.

>>150973934
>>150974172
It was a joke.

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Can we discuss Attila here?

What happened to FOTE?

What happened to Ancient empires?

Was it all a ruse?

>>150974681
I don't know why, but the modding community of both Rome II and Attila stopped doing anything since like 5 months ago

Maybe because it's summer. I hope they will bring new shit after the holiday

>>150974681
>>150975047
Only been following medieval kingdoms and they regularly update on TWC, can't say about the others.

>>150974681
no total war in /twg/

>>150975047
>Summer has been going on for 5 months now

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>>150975314
>2013 was 5 years ago

>>150974681
>What happened to Ancient empires?
Have you been living under a rock? Youtubers are covering it loads, they keep releasing info on new features and a release date is in sight.

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>>150964072

Fuck yes, turned it back around! Chaos started hitting Altdorf hard, but VC came out and paid me 8 grand for peace (despite me losing, lol gg undead shitlords).

Not having to worry about VC on my flank let me pull back and focus on getting Chaos and the rebels out and away.

Then Archaon showed up and I got that huge diplomacy boost. I guess my diplo work early game finally paid off, as suddenly I was able to form a military alliance with damn near everyone (in fact I could confederate but I really dont want to deal with managing a place that big).

Even the Dwarves and Brettonia are allied with me.

I'm now doing less and less army work and I'm giving war target orders to entire factions.

It feels like I'm a real emperor now

>>150975554
BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO FOTE

AND DEI

AND THE BRONZE AGE MOD

What is this "Warherd of Chaos" faction I see during the turn transition? I dunno what they are, they come after Warriors of Chaos in the turn order, so I assume they are a WoC Brayherd, which sounds weird.

>>150975698
>I NEVER CHECK THE STATUS OF SOMETHING BY GOING TO ITS PAGE, THEN I PROCLAIM IT TO BE DEAD
Modders worst nightmare

>>150974681
>FotE
Celts and Nords are next
>AE
Testing began month,go sign up if you're up for it
Campaign is this or next month i think

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>>150975497
More like 4 but still
>2010 was 6 years and 8 months ago.

>>150975805
>we'll be announcing a solid release date at the end of the month

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>>150975795
>check bronze age mod
>it's fucking dead

>>150975737
I don't recall seeing them on my Empire campaign but when playing as WoC they popped up in Kislev. They're just another tribe of beastmen iirc. I don't think they're even allied to WoC by default.

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>>150956024
CAW CAW

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my newest campaign history /twg/

>>150977124
Strange. I haven't played as WoC since Beastmen update, but I was playing as the Beastmen as Khazrak myself. Was in Reikland when I first noticed them, as Kislev died around that time, so that sounds about right.

>>150977232

I'd totally fuck a female lord of change

>>150977232
The fuck

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>150977232

Penultimate warning bud

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>>150977258
That's pretty good
Post more

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>>150977813
I hope you have something big planned for when Tomb Kings actually do get announced.

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wh_dlc10_ska_skaven FUCKING WHEN?

>>150972807
The point of Denuvo isn't to be UNCRACKABLE THE GREATEST DRM EVER

It's meant to be hard as fuck to crack for the first month or two. It is trying to force people to buy the game rather than way a few months for a crack.

>>150978075
>damage control

>>150973934
>>150974172
Auto resolving or not depends on your army composition and the enemy.

If you have artillery, and they have none, you should probably just fight it out because you'll lose like no troops.

However, if you're attacking a walled settlement/capital, it's better to just have multiple armies and auto resolve, because even against shit tier armies you'll lose a bunch of troops just walking to the walls.

>>150978197
I'm talking AAA releases, where they don't give a fuck past how many people preorder the game or buy it in the first few weeks.

For something like Total War, it's a bit different, as they are aiming for longevity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR174IqalKQ

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Empire Knights is such a useless unit that even the wiki forgets they exist

The general consensus here seems to be that Warhammer is a very good, if not the best, Total War game but admittedly simplified much. However Rome 2 is a bad Total War game for the same reason. What exactly was so bad about Rome 2 in hindsight?

>>150979294

Nothing, really. People were so upset with the Rome 2 engine and some of the changes to the provincial system and simplification of the campaign, plus the changes to cavalry charges and such.

Now that people have gotten used to it, Rome 2 is just fine

>>150978073
after wh_dlc_09

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>>150977875

>>150979294
R2 was just tainted by the incredibly shitty launch. It's fine now.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>150979559

what unit from each faction do you dislike the most?

dwarfs:
>irondrakes and flame cannons, shit damage, t4 unit, 18 units on normal size is garbage, expensive, too much micro for almost no return,

vampires:
>terrorgheists, prefer vargheists, easier to recruit, cheaper and I think faster, they are also better at chasing runners/mounted units, haven't used black coaches :^)

empire:
>outriders (grenade launchers), total SHIT, oh, you want a unit that can disrupt formations? might as well use this gimmicky trash over a reiksguard or demigryph

chaos:
>trolls [unarmored], good for flanking i guess, but fuck all hp and rout in 2 hits

greenskins:
>wolf chariot archers, what the fuck is the point in these, id rather have boar boyz instead, hell, even wolf riders are better

beastmen:
>razorgor herd, seem mediocre or i suck at using them, awkward build requirements

Empire campaign is so fucking difficult, im playing on very hard and i have no money and no decent armies.

Im on turn 40 and all i have is Franz with an army of swordsmen, 4 crossbow and the starter units.

I also have a small army of 8 men to protect from beastmen.

Im making like 800 a turn and somehow my army upkeep is over 4000, how do you do anything when you have no cash?

I have 3 complete provinces and tried to go to war with Nuln, but they have more men and 1v1 all my men get shredded due to the AI bonuses on VH.

Please teach me how to get good.

>>150979943

I dont see how your army upkeep is over 4k with that little amount of stuff

>>150979871
Irondrake and flame cannon destroy unarmored infantry, too bad by the time you get them you'll mosly fight armored dudes

>>150979871
Warriors of Chaos
>Forsaken, really shit but they're the only monster-type infantry they have and i love that kind of shit so i can't stop massing them

>>150979943
>I also have a small army of 8 men to protect from beastmen

build walls instead, more bang for your buck

I have 3 complete provinces and tried to go to war with Nuln, but they have more men and 1v1 all my men get shredded due to the AI bonuses on VH.

don't war wissenburg, confederate them asap. you will wanna go after orcs, beastmen and gifting them every now and then. also, marienburg should be your first city outside of reikland - the AI army will generally never leave the city, so declare war on them, put an army on ambush outside of eilhart and hope RNG is with you, it'll make capturing marienburg a joke.

marienburg has a unique building that gives 500 (t1) / 1000(t3) / 1500(t5) gold per turn.

>>150979943
>tried to go to war with Nuln
Why? Just make nice with all the elector counts and you can confederate a lot of them. Only fight Marienburg and any that attack other electors and are losing/don't like you.

>>150979943
>play on very hard
>it's very hard

>>150980431

to be fair, the meme is that if you play on anything but VH/Legendary you're a pussy

>>150979871
Pistoliers, gyrocopters, cairn wraith

>>150980375
Non of the elector counts like me, i confederated with stirland and now they all hate me.

>>150980271
I didnt bother with Marienburg because i thought they would be a good buffer for chaos, didnt realize they had such a good building.

Maybe i should restart, its a shame i was 1 level away from death claw.

>>150980175

yeah they are shit against anything thats not zombies, even gobbos can tank through them

>>150980529
from my experience hard is the same as very hard just you'll get a lot more 'destroyed all the enemy's armies but oh they've just spawned in a full stack' on very hard and legendary. feels cheap.

>>150980615

Don't confederate until Archaon shows up for the diplo bonus. Then you can do it without as much worry.

Until then just focus on killing VC and setting up alliances with the small empire factions. There's no need to war with everyone, anon

>>150980529
People that don't play on VH/Legendary aren't pussies, they're just not gud.

>>150980615
The confederation penalty goes away. Just ignore it and give some small gifts if it looks like someone might break treaties or attack.

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I want to play FOTE but the missing factions kill my will to

>>150980623
They look cool though

>>150980234
You are gonna love Daemons of Chaos

>>150979294
The thing I like the least about Rome 2 is the arbitrary army limits that were suddenly introduced. The gameplay was pretty wonky (random capture points in battles because reasons?) and everything had a tendency to blob together in huge piles. They also had misleading gameplay previews which ticked people off massively, and then the DLC provoked even more of a negative reaction. It's been sort of fixed but it deserves the negative reputation and doesn't compare well to other total war games. Warhammer might be even more simplified but the battles are a lot more fun in my opinion.

>>150980806
>>150980756
Thank you, i will load up a save just after reuniting the Reikland.

However on that save Averland have declared war on me, what is the best course of action? Should i just sack them then ask for peace?

And should i declare was on marienberg and take their land.

>>150980615
What I usually do is:

Upgrade Altdorf barracks to t2, attack nearby secessionist army, beat it, move back into altdorf region and recruit, next turn take grunburg, force march to helmgart, capture it, delete barracks in altdorf, capture eilhart, should have a 20 stack around eilhart which is easy enough to capture marienburg.

regarding confederation, avoid confederating with elector counts the other counts hate/are at war with. you'll get a "treaties with <faction>", which makes confederating with other lords harder. I have had problems confederating with Stirland before. Wissenburg is usually my first.

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>not being such an under of strategy that you can win any battle with tier one units

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post your proudest victory

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>>150981319
I won this battle but forgot to take a screenshot of the battle end screen because I had been so close to losing.

>>150981087
>White Huns show up with a general + 19 units of Spet Xyons
>You may use any 19 t1 units + general
How do you win this?

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>>150981087

>under of strategy

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>>150981319

>>150981641
By being a true understander of strategy.
I could not even begin to tell the many layers of tactics and plannings you will need to take to win this, your mine will be unable to comprehend it.

>>150981690

History forgets the men like Captain Tertius.

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>>150981319
also in the space of 4 turns i got four defensive sieges so i don't know what people keep talking about in regards to that

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>>150981690

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>>150981658
fug, my shitpost is ruined.

>>150981809
My mine will understand it just fine. It's even smart enough to tell me which side it would like to face the enemy.

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>>150981816

>>150981968
Why is that guy just wearing a helmet
>>150982038
>Mine
I cant fucking spell today fuck

>>150945716
>This is what Franzfags actually believe

>>150980175
>>150979871
To bad they are so incredibly clumsy to move and position. Takes forever to fire and can't do shit in melee.

>>150982091
It's the most important place to protect. If you can only have one piece of armor, a helmet should be it.

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>>150981087
>under of strategy

>>150969696
you don't, you just want Chaos because it forces attrition for your enemies

>implying the AI gets rebelions with it's bullshit public order bonus

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>>150981319

I'm not very good and I imagine someone would look at this and laugh about how I lost so many, but this took everything out of me to win. I was down to just tiny units of almost no morale with a 1 hp Franz who recovered right at the border coming back to hold morale.

Once I start getting into large armies like this, I cant focus on controlling everyone and I end up with units just standing still in the middle of the battle line not fighting because they cleaned up their unit and I dont see them to push them to the next unit

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>be dorf
>get item
>increase leadership and charge bonus

>>150972807
Anybody here who tried that torrent? did it work

I own the game, but I just want to see Denuvo go bankrupt for being a cancerous practice

>>150981690
i really miss holding a city against insurmountable odds and knowing that your only hope is to destroy their for-some-reason-solitary siege tower before it gets to your walls. it's getting closer and closer and your archers are shooting flame arrows at it but nothing is happening, and then it goes up in fire and all their men are left standing around outside your walls helpless.

now enemies can just pull ladders out and make it all pointless.

>>150982091
Barbarians, Titus.

>>150982571
But ladders make them die like flies as long as you have men to man the walls. The fatigue from climbing makes most units useless at anything else than keeping the enemy busy for a while.

>>150982421
how come franz got 0 kills?

>>150982827

Right as the first enemy line rushed me, one of the enemy lords that was flying swooped over my line and went right for Franz. I put my warpriest into the fight as well (he also was flying) to help fight with Franz, but the Lord somehow routed both. Franz ran off to the edge and recovered with 1 hp and I was able to bring him back, but only to stand behind the lines and be a leadership bonus

>>150982421
>outriders
>0 kills
>100% hp

>he fell for the outrider meme

>>150983041
Those are pistoliers mate.

>>150983041

So, one of the pistoliers actually started attacking a unit of sword guys. I set them to skirmish and they led that unit far away and basically took them out of the fight. I dont know why they registered no kills, they got that unit to about half.

The other I admit I shamelessly hid in the forest so that if this fight went sour, which I really expected it to, they would be hidden and maybe I could scratch out a victory by just staying hidden for a long time

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>>150981319

porbs this one

>>150982571
All of the warscape games have had worse sieges than medieval 2 or rome 1 and warhammer is a new low for sieges.

>>150983489
>warscape
>worse sieges than m2
You never even played it, did you?

>>150983608
I guess you enjoy soldiers pulling torches or ladders out of their asses then or samurai in full armor scaling walls like ants

>>150984145
i'd say Attila had the best sieges

>>150984145
I guess you enjoy never risking to lose a single defensive siege, because the AI is to retarded to attack your extremely advantageous position.

How did one perform the Vampire start Blitz again? I'm gonna go for a Legendary campaign with them and want a strong start

>>150979871
Dwarfs
>Slayers, honestly what is the point in these units they do their job worse than a basic dwarf infantry and a quarreler.

Vampires
>Terrorgheist, for how expensive the unit cost it is really squishy and not that good at racking up kills, i prefer Vargheist for the role of breaking back lines.

Empire
>Not played them enough to say

Chaos
>Gorebeast chariot, it looks really cool but i just cant seem to do any good with chariot units.

Greenskins
>Fanatics, literally useless upgrades that do no damage and hurt your own formations.

Beastmen
>All the razorgor units.

>>150984486
It's not rocket science. Just attack Templehof as fast and hard as you can without excessive losses.

>>150984403
>AI is shit
>Let's remove features so nobody notices how bad the AI is!
Worst part, even with the shit sieges of Warhammer, the AI is still shit

Does using heros to assault buildings actually matter at all to the campaign AI?

>>150984830
>>Terrorgheist, for how expensive the unit cost it is really squishy and not that good at racking up kills, i prefer Vargheist for the role of breaking back lines.

Completely missing the point of the Terrorgheist, I see.

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>chaos lore magic with Chaos divided
>Replaced the Evermemed with Lord of change
>Starts off with full Lore of Tzeentch tree
>Turn 1 have a big bird with magic powerful enough to actually solo armies and can regenerate magic super quick.
It feels like cheating but at the same time he is absolutly terribad in melee. Like, would get killed by basic spearmen bad in melee.
It feels like cheating, so, maybe it balances out?

>>150985207
Whats the actual point of the terrorgheists then

t.Terrorgheist lover who always has atleast 2 in my army.

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>>150981319
One of my favorites was this one. 2 town defenses on a row against germans as the avars.

Some anon even made a Paint version this screenshot.

>>150985375
Dunno, what would you use a mobile unit with armour piercing and anti-large attributes for?