/ddg/ - Dragon's Dogma General

These threads don't seem to be lasting long. /ddg/ death soon?

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>>150890680
I'd say it's already dead.

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>>150891296
And I bought the game a month ago. Fuck

>>150890680
The other thread practically reached post and image limit. We're fine!

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>>150893067
M8, the one I pulled up earlier didn't even have 20 posts before it got got.

I didn't even have time to post.

Why the fuck do the BBI dragons have more fucking health in their wings than in their entire fucking body?

And why put one in a fucking village where it's tail constantly clips into buildings where you can't fucking get to it.

>>150895176
We go through cycles

so I'm assuming at this point getting your pawn hired is basically impossible right?

It's a shame. This game is so fucking good. I'm just getting back into it after being unable to play basically any games for a couple months and I really wish I could have been here for the PC launch.

>at my 4th playthrough decide to make a new arisen, a female one
>instantly go for big-bootied maiden's "set" wearing hottie
>feel bad about myself
>see someone named "lolivamplover" in the wiki
I suddenly feel a lot less bad about myself

I just bought the game on steam and just fled the spooky tentacle pit

Am I in for a ride?

>>150898967

>first time playing
>finish up a quest, going back to the city for my reward
>complete fucking pitch black nighttime
>hear a gust of wind and a slight roar
>"what the fuck was that?"
>for 10 seconds i look at the sky to figure out what just took off
>a fucking dragon lands right next to me
>glowing eyes in pitch blackness and shit
> i start to book it
>catches up anyway and kills me

fun times.

I had an amazing ranger/strider as my first pawn but I later turned them into a fighter/warrior while I leveled non-melee roles myself.

Now that they're back to ranger they're always going melee and almost never shooting except when using skills, what the hell am I doing wrong? Their inclinations now are challenger and utilitarian.

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>>150896529
Not really. PC version still gets a goodly amount of random hires--not a ton, of course, but it should mostly be enough to cover purification.

Unless your pawn is a dude, in which case you're just fucked.

>>150899548
Same thing happened to me, except it was before I finished my quest and I had Adaro in tow.

Also I managed to not die, which was nice.

>>150896529
I shill occasionally in the thread and the hires I get are enough to cover my purification and rarefying costs, so it's not too bad.

>>150904362
Ideally you want your ranger pawn to be using skills constantly--preferably the shooty ones, of course. What dagger skills do you have set?

You may also have scather or something in the tertiary incli spot that's making him want to melee more.

>>150904362
You can just unequip his daggers, in which case he will only shoot from range.

Just killed the Ur-Dragon, am i good for the DLC?

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Figure I'll go ahead and plug Snapdragon again, seeing as the last thread died shortly afterwards. Level 125 ranger, 100% resistances to sleep, petrification and possession. Want to rack up that monster knowledge and if anyone feels like gifting BBI Gear so I can finally get some decent skill rings, that would be cool too.

>>150907374
Gonna play for a bit, I'll grab her.

Anyone else?

>>150906392
Hundred kisses, instant reset and advanced trigger. Didn't expect other inclinations to matter that much, guess that the time as a warrior ruined their habits.

They're slowing shooting more, though
>>150906476
I guess.

Oh and I've decided to go to BBI which I put off for a while.

I'm new to the game still, am I poorly leveled or are you meant to be escaping from most of those large monsters that appear?

>>150908887
What level are you?
Entering BBI is a good idea when youre level 50-60 and have fairly good gear.

>>150909213
121

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>>150910240
Uh, Anon...

>>150910298
I mean I tried it before around that level range you mentioned but come a boss like monster and I'd be one-shot.

And still shit is tough. I had to run from the random cursed dragons and I can only beat eliminators by grabbing their necks and attacking non-stop since they can't counter at all. It feels cheap.

Killed some bishop guy and unlocked those two doors at the entrance to the isle though, it almost seems like I'm doing progress.

Is there any reason to use lift stones when you have the eternal ferrystone? Seems they both just take you to the entrance of BBI.

Also, I killed the condemned gorecyclops in midnight helix, but I don't really know how I got its helmet off. What's the trick?

>>150913430
Eternal Ferrystone is unusable once you're actually inside BBI (as in, not on the pier).

>>150913430
There's a strap running over the scalp of the Gorecyclops' head connecting the mask and the brace on its neck. Do enough damage to that, and the helmet falls off.

>>150907169
Depends, killed the Ur-Dragon but BBI still fucked me up. Come prepared or get wrecked

>>150905872
Prey fought back. Lots of surprises.

>>150912696
Those cursed pawns one-shot all characters with spells or 2h weapons, giant gore cyclops everywhere, death or elder ogres won't stop spawning.

Jesus Christ the base game was too easy but now this is just not fun

>>150918157
You're unskilled. You can get better.

>>150919381
I can't, it's more about numbers at this point.

>>150919458
Knock them over, m8.

>>150890158
>Best girl edition
>doesn't have best girl

>>150918157
If you're talking about your second run through BBI then either your are underleveled or undergeared. Either go find a good grinding spot or rush through and farm the chests.

>>150919765
Mate they shrug fully charged Indomitable Lash with a Dragon's Repast without flinching.

>>150920725
First run, I might as well rush.
It's hard mode but I don't think it matters.

>>150920967
Boltbringer or Twinterfang should be accessible at that point of the game through Lv2 Weapon drops/chest drops.
If you're unlucky with the drops I guess you could shill your pawn and I could give away a Lv2 Weapon from my hoard.

>>150921109
I'm honestly giving up.
Thanks for the offer.

>>150921275
Oh come on, take the help.

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>>150921109
>>150918157

Have you tried just walking past them?

>tfw we'll never get a proper Dragon's Dogma 2

Dogma online control scheme is balls

no rebinding skills

plus shift + skill has a small window, (like 5 frames at most) where it has a chance not to proc due to a bug with the shield or some shit. shits retarded

>>150907374
I'll grab her. If I get any lvl 2-3 rings, I'll send them your way.

>>150921561
You could do that, but a lot of BBI is basically a Daimon damage check. If you find yourself having difficulty killing Eliminators then you're going to spend hours fighting Daimon himself.

>>150923703
It's about pleasure, anon.

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how do I make a qt girl anons? Literally impossible.

Also, is hard mode even worth it? I accidentally deleted my save with all my gear. I really want to start over and hard mode seems cool. Is it just a hassle to play or is it actually "fair" hard

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>>150925075

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>>150925075
Make a qt pawn by having a model or something. Take a picture of a real qt from different angles if possible and then try to make an identical looking pawn and then modify it to look different if you want.

Also, hard mode isn't really all that hard, but I think it was a lot of fun. BBI was more fun in hard mode.

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I made her a Ranger now, didn't give her daggers so she should shoot things just fine.
Looking for Moonshimmer Pelts if you got 'em.

>>150929094
She used to be a fighter right? I have her now I think, will send back a pelt when I get home.

>>150929506
Yep, she was. Thanks for the pelt in advance.

>It looks like we've truly seen the Dragon's Dogma. Dark, Arisen; we'd best find lodging

Seriously Capcom? Fire your fucking hack writers

God damn I love my ranger pawn. She absolutely obliterates bosses with that great gamble.

I was fighting the lich and his dragon and that Lich fell on the ground and my pawn went up to him and aimed the bow into the back of his head execution style and half of that guys HP bars just fucking vanished.

>>150915258
>>150915361
Thanks, lads.

>>150925075
>qt girl
>Otto
Is that really a girl's name?

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>>150933054
kek
fucking perfect
is that really a line in DA?

>check pawn after months of not playing
>11 hirings
>all three stars/no comment/no gift

please protect my pawn and dont let her die so easily

>>150934323
ye

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>>150921712
stop it

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>>150890158
You wouldn't plow a dirty she-goat, would you?

>>150921712

I'd pay for DDDA again if it meant getting the rest of the planned content put in the game

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Wait what?

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I'm off /ddg/. Have to leave Dragon's Dogma behind to concentrate on other stuff, like work, and other games, like Dragon Age.

Take care of Octavia in my stead, she's a level 112 Fighter. Search for 114 if she's not appearing in the rift.

I'll see you in the next chain of the eternal return.

Take care of yourselves.

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>>150938578
Ooh, those hips.

>>150937885
I wouldn't stop until she's pregnant

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So in the Tainted Mountain, can I go back right before the dragon to change my vocation? Or will I be locked in there once I enter?

Also, of I equip a Sword and Bow and beat Grigori, do I get both Dragon's Dogma AND the Dragon Bow?

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>>150939032
>Design Idea 3

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>follower comes back from assisting someone
>0 RC
>No comment
>5 stars for everything
>mfw

Did someone just hire my pawn to oogle at her or wtf?

>>150939358

Yes and yes. You can turn back before tou go through the gate from the prologue. You get whatever weapon types you had equipped.

>>150939587
That happened to me too.
Never experienced something like that in PS3.

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hey guys


i want my mystic knight to be as DEUS VULT as possible


i already have the divine surcoat and chimeric helmet, anything other recommendations for fashion?

>>150939587
I actually did this to one pawn.
I went into the rift, released my two pawn, then spent some time trying to find good pawn.
I was looking for pawn to fight Daimon 2.0 BBI and hired a sorcerer and a ranger. Then I noticed that the Ranger had a rusted longbow.

I was right in front of Daimon's Door, so I released the ranger with 5/5/5 because a rusted longbow would have been useless against Daimon 2.0.

So no worries Anon, it could have been that your pawn was "accidentaly" hired.

>>150940012
Dragon knight helm instead of edgelord.
>not being a crusader
>OF DRAGONS

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>>150940449
>can't even get that helmet because i have shit luck


anon please

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>>150939587
>>150939697
I've done it before if I didn't get them any RC. Sometimes I just change my mind about who I want in the party after I've already hired two pawns.

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>>150925075
Just go through every possible combination untill something looks good.

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>>150943741
He said qt, not slutty.

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>>150945226
Shes naked so you can dress her up.
Pawns are nothing more than dress-up dolls anyway.

Anyone have some sliders for a good shortstack kinda girl ? They just end up loooking like fat dwarves when I try

>>150925075
the secret is facetype 28, nosetype 6

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>>150925075
I've been playing around with this the past week. Just keep trying until you find something you like.

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>>150947297
Then try something else.

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>>150947548
The do more stuff and end up putting a mask over it.

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I know you guys come up with backstories for your characters. Post 'em.

My Arisen was a bounty hunter from a foreign land who figured that the job of Arisen was better than her current gig. Incapable of imagining a more competend person than herself, she made herself a clone pawn.

After defeating Grigs and getting fucked over by the Duke, she left Gransys for BBI and hasn't turned back since. Now she's old and tired.

>>150947870
looks gud

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>>150950138
Thanks.

>>150949164
>backstory

Mine are too weird to share.

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>>150949164
My Arisen is an autistic assassin who was orphaned as a teenager. Since he's autistic, he was bullied and wronged by others and when he was forced to kill a man or die himself, he figured he'd become an assassin since it doesn't require any social skills. Being the autist he is, he made himself a waifu that looks like one of those girls he saw drawn in ye olde tome of drawings of nudity and reviling acts of sexuality. Tome was called 'Boy that playeth - Volume 2'

I figured since the Arisen always acts like a socially awkward autist in the cutscenes, he must be at least just that.

>>150939032
>no qt hat 4 quina

sadface.jpg

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You better not die, /ddg/.

>>150956925
This is the actual best DD screenshot I've seen.

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>>150957130
Thanks. I always liked taking them on console, didn't really get into it on PC. Burnout's a bitch.

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>tfw I deleted my save to go back to Everfall tier because BBI is boring as fuck and I forgot to save sliders for my hot as fuck Arisen.

Just killed the Dragon

can I get some context? what the FUCK just happened to my sunny cassardis?
and how much more content is there in post-game?

>>150960128
You'll find out. There's still plenty of game to go. And then BBI.

That said, this is technically "post-game" but it's not really the end of the story until you beat Everfall.

The plot is shit though. It's literally "You must kill the dragons. No Arisen you are the dragons. Wait no that's not right, the dragons is a metaphor."

Okay maybe not literally but the answer to what happened to your beautiful fantasy world is that the plot is utter shit and the DM had a fit of CREATIVITY.

>>150959537
>firecrotch

That is hot.

>>150960328
Wait, there's more after you beat the dragon that stole your heart? Only entered this general after thinking about this game the other day. Thought it was okay but stopped playing after I beat the dragon. Was disappointed in the short and nearly non-existent story and didn't know what to do after that.

>>150960792
The story gets so deep hurr after.

Yeah, hoof it to Gran Soren, see the Duke, beat Everfall, and see the lol so deep ending.

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>>150960646

>>150960896
FYI, Post-game Everfall is literally copy pasted rooms with nothing but bosses and enemies in them and your only objective is to farm them. It is the laziest part of the game but also the most fun surprisingly. It's almost a shame to BEAT it because then you go straight to NG+ and have to clear the game again to get back to Post-Game Everfall.

BBI is next, and BBI isn't much better on the copy-paste front. But it's still fun. Sadly, most of it is a grindwall almost as bad as early game ogres or early game bandits near Witchwood. It kinda expects you to have Urdragon tier weaponry but nobody has time for that shit. You can still survive, just the new enemies need lots more grind to beat.

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>a tentacle hentai loving disembodied scrotum with a light bulb testicle
>about to be the Gazer of deez nuts
>implying I'm looking at that

whats the best place to farm vocation xp?
also, when should i start trying to tackle dragons? currently level 40 with shitty offline pawns that always die to everything

>>150964249
I just downloaded a trainer to max Vocation XP but if you want to grind, post-game near the Duke's Palace. I think there's something you can climb on that can make the attackers unable to reach you and you can let your pawns go to work. Killing hordes of low XP enemies works out better for Vocation XP.

>>150966648
I'm not in post-game. I'm level 40 and can BARELY do the main quest string right now, mainly because my pawns get oneshot by even a simple greatsword-wielding bandit.

And I can't recruit player pawns only offline ones.

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>kill tons of monsters
>get loads of great loot
>can't throw away anything because everything is so good
>you become overencumbered
>have to turn back to drop the loot in storage

I hate this feeling so much

>>150967792
A simple greatsword wielding bandit can easily one shot you if you are undergeared or underleveled. I can't remember where this might be happening except near Witchwood though. Are your pawns as close to your level as you can collect? Don't bother buying them stuff but you may need to tier up on gear. Sadly, tiers are locked by story progress. Catch 22 lol

>>150968121
>carrying 4000 harspud milks or liquid vims or magdef talismans that you're never going to fucking use

>>150968832
Actually I have heals at all.

Instead I have 14 wakestones and the reason why I'm overencumbered is because I found shit loads of Lvl 3 and 2 weapons, gear, armor from a one hour long trek through the BBI.

>>150969670
I meant no heals at all god damn it.

>another Apollo mask

Fuck I have enough of these to have a sale now, still no Siegfried though.

Anyway grace time bitches, hope your luck is better than mine.

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Does the mod that remove the weight restriction make the game too easy?

>>150972793
if you use it to carry 999 blast arrows, then yes.

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Rouge is the funnest class

try and prove me wrong

>>150973350

I still limit my consumables to what I had them at prior to the mod. I'm referring to the stamina regeneration.

>>150968121
There's a Dreamwing Nostrum right there you fucking goon.

>>150969907
Online Urdy is permanently dead for me. IDK what the deal with that is, but it's been like 10 generations now that I've checked in on, and it's always dead, no matter what. A real fuckin' bummer.

Good thing I got my Abyssinal armor and Siegfried masks back on console, I guess. Still, I like farming gear to give to other players, and gifting people full Abyssinal sets makes them happy.

>>150973459
>Rouge is the funnest class

I prefer yellows, myself.

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>>150973459

Nah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6rH_5X9m6o

>b-b-b-but muh 3 skills!

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>>150974325

I want to roughly mating press my t h i c c chocolate amazoness pawn so bad, so fucking bad.

>>150939032
>Design Idea 3
DEEEEEIIIIMNNNNNNNNNN

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>this huge surge of Guts players

What the fuck happened?

>>150967792
Okay.

What vocation are you and your main pawn?

Even before doing the wyrm hunt quests, there are places you can get some pretty decent equipment if you savescum chests. If you can then tackle the devilfire drake and get some of that equipment dragonforged, and maybe even make a run to Barroch and get it rarefied, you can laugh your ass off at pretty much anything in Gransys.

>>150977887

>what happened

Nothing, Gutsfags have always been a blight in any game even remotely similar to Berzerk.

>>150978886
>games remotely similar to berserk

Um. Are there many of those?

>>150979046

If the game has a big 2 handed sword then that's enough for Gutsfags to draw a comparison.

See - Dark Souls community/Dragons Dogma community

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>>150978886
>>150979129

umad?

>>150979309
Your pawn's arms look a little short.

>>150978767
I'm currently a strider but only to get the Leg-Strength augment, after that I'll switch back to warrior. My main pawn is also a warrior, my other two are mage and sorceress.

>>150979129
>If the game has a big 2 handed sword then that's enough for Gutsfags to draw a comparison.

There were 2 fucking sets of Berserk equipment in Dragon's Dogma, don't act like comparing the game itself and specifically the Warrior vocation to Berserk is a stretch.

I would also argue that the Dragon's Bargain is very similar to how the Behelit works, but I can concede that -might- be actually a stretch

>>150980803

Hey m8, I never said Dragons Dogma didn't have much in common with Berzerk, i'm just saying that Gutsfags will find any reason to compare a game they like to Berzerk.

Dragons Dogma has a fuckload of similarities with the Berzerk series

>Golden Arc armor/Sword
>"Trolls that like women"
>Witch in the woods (that has stone golemns protecting her)
>The fact that the world starts off pretty generic only to go bats to the wall insane in the second half
>Casca = Mercedes

Dragons Dogma is clearly inspired by the Berzerk series

>>150981043
Fair enough.
I do appreciate all those Berserk inspired things in the game, I didn't make my character look at all like Guts though. Not for the PC version anyway

If I wanted to min/max myself to (finally) take on BBI, what's the general class progression?

>>150980009
Alright, what weapons are you and your pawn using? And what level of enhancement?

>>150985202
pawn using malignance 2 star
I'm using scalding razors 2 star (i got these at like leve 20 but i'm still using them)
when i eventually switch back to my warrior i'm thinking about picking up the fire hammer from caxton

>>150985202
>>150986191
Oh forgot to mention, bow is the pleached limbs 1 star

>>150981986
I'll just list the vocations and their strengths. You can look up exact stat growths on the wiki or whereever.

1-10
Fighter: Best attack, HP
Strider: Best stamina, balanced stats
Mage: Best magick, mdef.

11-100
Fighter: Best defense, excellent HP
Strider: Balanced stats, good stamina
Mage: Literally worse than sorcerer in every way except HP
Warrior: Best HP, excellent attack
Ranger: Best stamina, good attack/magick
Sorcerer: Best magick/mdef
Mystic Knight: Balanced stats
Assassin: Best attack, excellent stamina
Magick Archer: Good defense/mdef

After level 100, stat growth drops off a lot. Assassin still has the best attack growth, Sorcerer still has the best magick growth, Fighter still has the best defense growth, and nobody really has good mdef growth. HP/Stamina is 15/5, 10/10, or 5/15 for every class, so not a lot of variety there.

>>150986315
Thanks mate, this is a great starting off point for me.

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I HAVE SEEN THE DRAGON'S DOGMA

>>150986191
>>150986312
Alright.

Pleached Limbs is one of the best shortbows you're going to find pre-dragon, but materials for enhancement are a bit rare. You're going to want to head to around Prayer Falls (north of the abbey). Look for gather spots around there to try to find Spiny Nuts, necessary for two star enhancement. Slick Black Pinions drop from cockatrices, which are difficult to find pre-Dragon.

Scalding Razors are a little weak for the point you're at, and you'll probably do more damage with comparable non-enchanted weapons. If you've been helping Madeleine out in her quests, depending on how far in the game you are, you can get a very good pair of daggers by finishing her questline in a particular fashion; otherwise, your best bet is Signs of Valor, which you get from a gather spot on Hillfigure Knoll (at the tip of the spear). You need Aged Insignias (drops from Undead Warriors, which you can fight in the catacombs/everfall/around prayer falls) to three-star it.

For warrior weapons, ditch Malignance and go for straight damage weapons. One of your best bets will be Gryphic Victory, which is a reward for completing Ser Berne's escort mission. If you haven't already gotten it (and you haven't failed it), chat with Berne/gift him foreign knives until his quest shows up in the Gran Soren inn. The other best option is Triple Tooth, which you can get in a chest in Soulflayer canyon (close to the only place pre-dragon that you can find respawning cockatrices, if you want to farm for Pleached Limbs 3-star). Pre-Dragon you can only get triple tooth to 2-star (freakish claw from a chimera), but Gryphic Victory 3-star should be doable--farm skeleton lords (they show up at the foot of the mountain path leading to Heavenspeak from the east at night) for Fell-Lord's Bones. The Cassardi Flamberge, which Aestella sells, is another good option, but is only available to buy pretty nearly right before you go to face the dragon. Goblin Horns will 3-star that.

>>150974852
>not drow

>>150986191
>>150986312
>>150988485
Once you've gotten those weapons and leveled them up to 2-/3-stars, you should be ready to start dragonforging them. Even at 2/3-stars they should be ample help to defeating the drake in devilfire grove, and the higher the enhancement, the more likely they are to be dragonforged. Just save when you get close to the drake's range, and quit to the menu if you defeat it but your weapon isn't dragonforged. Rinse and repeat till you get your weapon dragonforged, and then wait seven in-game days for it to respawn and repeat the process with the next weapon on your list. If you're not going to stick with strider long, don't even worry about those weapons, though.

For the fight itself, try to track down a sorcerer pawn with gicel/high gicel--and try to avoid inclinations that include guardian, nexus, and scather. Failing that, grab a mage with both high anodyne and ice affinity, and use the help command before battle to get him to enchant your weapons.

Keep reviving your pawns--the drake has an ability that insta-kills pawns, so it'll happen often enough--and bring plenty of curatives. Make sure to sprint out of the way, and try to focus on jump-attacking the heart if you're a warrior, or clinging to his stomach and using scarlet/hundred kisses on the heart if you're a strider (using helm/skullsplitter if you have it is another good option).

>>150989221
I've beaten this game three times and never had to put in this much effort grinding out gear but this also sounds much more fun than mucking about with BBI faggotry.

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>>150989221
>>150988485
This was all very helpful, thanks a lot.

>>150989530
It's helpful to know where the best pre-dragon gear is when you start a new playthrough, which I've done thrice now. I mean, you could always just sprint through BBI with a bunch of throwblasts at level 1 grabbing cursed weapons and armor from chests, but where's the fun in that?

I mean, aside from the obvious sprinting through BBI at level 1 bit.

its dying boys

>stars align and DD2 is announced
>it ends up being just as rushed as the first one

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>>150949164
Goofy, thrill-seeking optimist with a hint of Batman science and gadgetry who enjoys setting himself on fire and jumping on giant monsters.

His general response to his adventures as Arisen has been excitement and childish wonder.

For a long time he was trying to get his grumpy loli pawn to open up and stop being so uptight, but after some of the stuff they went through together, he started becoming more of a protective, fatherly figure to her. (Un)fortunately, his personality had already rubbed off on her, so she's become a bit of a handful.

>>150994803
I'd be okay with that, I think. A lot of DD's charm comes from its rough edges.

>>150974325

Arc is pretty one note. It's actually more effective at lower levels, funny enough. Once you get stronger that first hit (Your weapon hitting the enemy) sends the enemy flying away from the real meat of the attack - or if you are fighting an elder ogre the fuck-heads will somehow block in the faction of a second between the weapon hitting their face and the weapon hitting the ground. I fucking hate the shit out of ogres and their bullshit.

Sorcerer at least has a little variety in it's huge charge time fuck you moves. And that shit is ALWAYS effective. Yellow classes do far more damage than warrior. Fighter and MK both have better defense. Everyone has more variety thanks to having more weapons/skills to pick from.

Don't get me wrong, I played it from 10-100 once and had a pretty good time with it. But switching to other shit you realize just how little warrior has going for it.

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I've been drinking and I have no life so I made a thing

Ded

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I took a break from ddo as soon as 2.0 dropped so i'm just coming back now. If you're just joining in and need someone to play with drop your ign and i'll help you out along with the few others I played with if they're still here

Does anybody use Frazil for anything?

oh my god fuck this fucking ai
why does my sorcerer keep cancelling her spells?
and why do they always give me the wrong buff?

>>150998692
DD falls apart at the high end BBI play where Arc becomes useless. You go MK and just pound your magic orbs or you buff stabstab and climb and just fuck shit up for ridiculous damage levels. Or you blast arrow spam.

Warriors really have very little going for them, but I think the parts of the game where they aren't useful aren't much fun anyway.

>>151005350
Shitters will pretend the AI learns from you specific weird magic shit and must be taught.

But they're not. The AI is trash.

That said, cancelling can come from some of the inclinations actually being fucking retarded. But also just from the AI.

>>151004094

Frazzle is amazing when you are an early game mage up against saurians. That well is piss easy when you can freeze the bastards solid on command. Other than that, no.

>>151005709
>Shitters will pretend the AI learns from you specific weird magic shit and must be taught.
>But they're not.
It's true, though, it's just limited to a handful of checkboxes for each monster.

>>151006230
>chop off saurian tail
>collect free kill
Don't even need ice desu

>>151006351

If you are going in there before level 10 chopping off the tail still takes a bit of work, and one stray spear will fuck you pretty hard. Neither things are a factor if they are frozen solid though - and they will be, because they seemingly have no resistance to that shit at all.

>>150998692
Good thing most people play for fun, not boring sperg reasons.

>>151008020

I play for fun too, and funny enough that's exactly why I don't play warrior anymore. Strange how that works out, huh. The best part? I didn't try to insult anyone for playing it.

>>151008247
>I didn't try to insult anyone for playing it.
You're missing the point of 4chan

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>>151005350
Probably because pawns can only target one enemy at a time. If the enemy dies or moves out of range they cancel. If a new enemy is near they restart the casting. Sometimes they will just sit there and cycle through their spells, possibly due to incomplete enemy stars or inclination.

Sorc also cannot block attacks. If anything gets close to them they tend to jump away and do melee.

>and why do they always give me the wrong buff?

Once again, that's likely incomplete enemy knowledge. Just give one element buff if it's a problem.

>>150890158
attention everyone in this thread, there is a mod that triples the spawns of everything in the game, everything spawns in 3's except for the dragon, the ur dragon and daimon.

that's right, they made a mod for people who are level 200.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubSnXI7VhXc
http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/322/?

>>150960328
the plot is fantastic, you just weren't paying attention.

grigori is the name of an angel, the dragon resists holy and is weak to the dark element, think about it...

>>151009401
You got a long way to go to convince me that the plot wasn't shit beyond just one cute reference.

>>151009480
No one cares about your bitter little nerd soul, fucktard.

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>>151009792

>>151009480
a seneschal is just one officer in a medieval court, he's essentially an enforcer, like a cop or a forum moderator or a vice principal, it's his job to keep things running, not necessarily to make anything, that's other peope's job (the king makes the laws)

some of the post game dragons talk to you as if they're the same as you, even referring to you as "my fellow countryman" one of them is hilariously confused, putting the entire dragons have a chest weakness thing into perspective if you know what happens when you lose to the seneschal

a popular theory was that at the end of the game you break the cycle with the godsbane, but logically, if you consider where the seneschal pulled his godsbane from, that's actually part of the cycle and you just shed your mortal form.

i assume you know what happens if you're offline in a NG+ and get up to the seneschal

it is canonically confirmed that a wakestone is an arisen's heart(this game has a lot of lore but if you want to find it you're better off wiki-ing it.)

an example of lore nobody knows that is actually really fucking cool: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/684236-dragons-dogma-dark-arisen/72225573#6

>>151006230
>Frazzle is amazing when you are an early game mage up against saurians.

Wish that spell got a bit of a buff, I really like the freezing wind shockwave you can blow outwards.

>>151009480
>>151010198

one more thing, you likely know that this game is called dragon's dogma, but what you may not know is what a dogma is:

"a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true."

at least, i never knew what a dogma was til long after i beat the game, and several other people didn't on other forums

>>150960328
>what happened to your beautiful fantasy world is that the plot is utter shit and the DM had a fit of CREATIVITY
They set up the post-dragon event way back when you first got to Gran Soren. Remember that light glowing at the base of the everfall? And the functionally invulnerable horrible creature bursting from the structure's depths that you had to flee from?

The world knew the dragon would soon be slain, and so it began to bubble and bulge against its earthly confines in anticipation.

>>151010198
I hate to burst your bubble, anon, but if you read the other posts in that thread, it sounds like that gamefaq post is OC.

Maybe I'm wrong, though, and it's still a neat idea either way.

>>151010198
Where is that from?

>>151011057
The invulnerable creature turned out to be an ez midboss in the late game.

Yes, they set up something mysterious going on beyond just the dragon. My issue is that the answer is just stupid. The world is destroyed and remade in an endless cycle in the sacrifice of the greatest men as picked by the dragons.... Why? How is it set up? What risk are we up against that requires a steady stream of sacrifices to the most absolutely boring and unimaginative and uninteresting cosmic post out there?

The entire story of the fantasy world, of dueling kingdoms, of cults, of assholes, waifus, treachery, temptation, and betrayal is all incredibly pointless as it has nothing to do with any of this.

There is absolutely nothing in the game to convince me why any of this matters or why any of this has to be or why anyone thinks this is somehow worthy of following the story of a man who refused all the treasures of the world and risked it all to battle a dragon and save the kingdom of the guy who took the other side of that bet.

You're not going to convince me the cycle as presented is anything other than dreary, uninteresting nihilist crap

>>151012635
I'm gonna talk spoiler, but I'm not about to blacken all text.

The way I see it, the universe in Dragon's Dogma is shaped like a cart-wheel. Each radius of this wheel is a world in itself, a parallel world. They are connected at their center by the "place beyond the rift" where crazy fucking monsters appear (referenced in many Everfall loot) and connected between them by the Everfall itself, who spears through multiple worlds.
Think about the everfall as the outer edge of the wheel, and the rift as the center of it.

The "Rift" where pawns are born is a grey shapeless world that makes up the void between each radius of the wheel. They make a buffer zone between parallel worlds that the pawns (and the beast residing inside and beyond the rift) can travel.

Here is how the Dragon's Dogma is a thing :
Each parallel worlds needs to be "willed" and "created" else it disappear in the rift. You can basically will pretty much anything as long as you are strong enought : Daimon/Ashe willed a whole island out of his own memories.

So a Seneschal is apointed to be the keeper of each parallel world, to constantly will and create life. The Seneschal is a fuel to make the world exist. Without him, the world crumbles because no fuel is able to make the parallel world exist.

The universe of Dragon's Dogma is not a planet, it's a dimensional plane, so it doesn't obey by the same rules.

As the endless act of creation is taxing for the Seneschal who spends eternity just "existing" to make a world live, to be used as a fuel, his will gets weaker and weaker and the idea of dying creeps into his mind.

But without a successor, the world is doomed to disappear, a broken axis in the wheel.

So he creates a Dragon, his messenger, to find the people who are able to fight their way through every fucking thing imaginable. Remember that only a very few Arisen manage to reach the Dragon, even fewer actually beat the Dragon and don't take his bargain, even FEWER survive.. (1/2)

>>151012635
>What risk are we up against that requires a steady stream of sacrifices to the most absolutely boring and unimaginative and uninteresting cosmic post out there?
The things that lurk outside reality. The infinite cosmos that exists between worlds.

>You're not going to convince me the cycle as presented is anything other than dreary, uninteresting nihilist crap
That's because it's a matter of perspective, and you're going to see what you want to see.

On one hand, yeah, nothing that happens "matters" in the grand scheme of things, but on the other, all that shit DID happen and in those moments people lived and loved and suffered. You become Seneschal so that you can protect those people and those places, so that the world can keep on turning.

On a simpler level, it's all about escalation. You start the game as some literal who fishfucker in the ass-end of nowhere, and end the game as a god. Seeing the earth from orbit is only impressive because you know how absolutely massive our world is when you're living in it. Otherwise it's just a whole bunch of green and blue and white.

>>151014269
(cont.)
The Dragon is created to weed out the people unfit to handle spending ETERNITY just being used as fuel to make the world continue on living. That's why the Seneschal is so succint when you actually face him : if you manage to reach him, beyond the rift, then the die is cast : either you are strong enought to handle being used as fuel or you get scared/you get killed and then it's back to square one.

The Dragon's Dogma (and the secret the Faith keeps) is that the world is in need of great warriors to be used as sacrifice to keep a world for crumbling into itself and disappearing into the Rift. The Dragons are unwilling "envoys" from the Seneschal, representing the best kind of adversary a warrior could face : someone who could test strenght, courage, and most importantly WILL to continue whatever happen.

You could make a parallel with how the Age of Fire works in Dark Souls : the First Flame is dying. If it dies, the world "dies" or at least changes. To keep it lit you need to sacrifice yourself as an all-mighty demi-god and be used as fuel until the next one reach the First Flame and continue the cycle.

The Godsbane exist as either the final test for a Seneschal : to plunge a blade into his or her own heart to shed one's mortal coil. (No ennemy could kill the Arisen, so the Arisen must kill himself as he's on the top of the food chain) To plunge a blade into his or her own heart to confront mortality (without a heart, you are immortal, you get stronger and stronger until you face god and are accompanied by IMMORTAL BEINGS. Plunging a blade into yourself saying "Maybe it'll really kill me lol" must be a move ballsy enought to be considered a good test for an aspiring Seneschal) or the Gosbane exist as a failsafe for a despairing Seneschal who refuse the Dogma : by killing the keeper of the world, you leave the world to fend for itself, hoping it can "will" itself to continue without you. (2/2)

>>151012635
>The entire story of the fantasy world, of dueling kingdoms, of cults, of assholes, waifus, treachery, temptation, and betrayal is all incredibly pointless as it has nothing to do with any of this.

Yes, anon. That is the point of the story. The ever novel pleasure of a useless occupation.

YOU FUCKING RETARD HAHAHA FUCKING NERD

>>151012635
>the cycle as presented is [...] dreary, uninteresting nihilist crap

...le plaisir délicieux et toujours nouveau d’une occupation inutile.

>>151014856
As a final footnote :

Bitterblack Island can be reached by many Arisen from different timeline because Daimon's wanted to destroy the Dogma itself. Meaning destroying the fuel for the Dogma : the Arisens, the fountain of will that could replace the Seneschal.

As Daimon wished, it is a place reachable by every Arisen strong enought to heed the call : it's designed as a trap, that's why it's a giant fucking illusion of the coast of your starting village : it's an island that can appear anywhere as it really exist in the Rift, the place that buffers the different parralel worlds.

You see the same blue cosmic sky from Draimon's Room and from the various Everfall chambers. It establish the proof that the Bitterblack Island exist in the Rift, and that the Rift is a tangible place and not just a parallel dimension from where the Pawn appear.

One could also imagine that when a Seneschal takes his first "office" and has no Dragon avaible, he could use his own mortal coil as a vessel or his own PAWN.
The Pawn originates from the rift, they could very well be created by Seneschals. Your pawn event comment how the Seneschal Throne Room feels familiar.

Would you make your pawn into a Dragon to serve you ?

Anyway, the game's story is ultimately meta and not a simple dragon fight to save the world thing. And it's also a metaphor for the creation of fantasy worlds and how human beings keep doing this shit even though we die and that's it. If that's too much for a WRPG cocksucker then too fucking bad, go jerk off in another castle.

>>151012635
>THE WIND IS PUSHING ME~
>[...]
>WHY DON'T WE UNDERSTAND
>WE KILL OURSELVES IN THE END
>SIMPLE AS ONE TWO THREE~

The J-pop song from Dragon's Dogma original main menu basically told you about the plot of the whole game.

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>Google the french quote from the start of the game
>Get this
https://killscreen.com/articles/heartless-dogma/

Worth a read.

The game's story is a generic "hero slays a dragon and saves their beloved while adventuring through Not Europe" one because the game aims to emulate pulp medieval fantasy that embodied D&D.

Seneschals are dungeon master stand-ins.

The superhuman willpower of the Arisen/Seneschal giving life to all the world represents how fantasy worlds only exist through the imagination of its players.

The game is a love letter to RPGs, made in the wake of the death of Gygax, The Maker of D&D.

>>151016080
>The game is a love letter to RPGs, made in the wake of the death of Gygax, The Maker of D&D.

Itsuno had this idea for a long time though.

>>151016319
well shit I guess my theory just got owned

>>151016352
They way I understand it, Capcom had the D&D license back in the 90's for an arcade game. They also made a similar game called Warzard. Being japanese they have an outlook on concept ownership that's a bit different from ours. Since design staff from that old game was called to work on Dogma they used some of their old concepts from that time, like the Cursed King's Belt from Warzard and the lionmen concept you can see in the art book.

So that's a lot of Capcom's own DNA resurfacing in 2012.

>>151015757
>too much
more like it's not enough.

>>151014856
Dark Souls plot isn't any better but it at least provides a tangible reason why you gotta throw someone on the barbecue every couple of years: that the world is almost always six days away from crumbling to dust and everyone going CRAAAAAZY. Mostly it's still an excuse plot to cram a bunch of somersaulting knights in a wrecked world, but you get hints of the abyss, the dark, etc. There's a threat, even if there's no villain to speak of.

Of course then it shows that valor is still pretty much futile and pointless and the works of man have a half-life of thirty minutes at best before everyone goes CRAZY and we have to cook up someone else to throw on the barbecue. And even the ones who survive that will pretty much all go crazy with the slightest push.

So we're back to nihilism from another angle.

>>151016036
No it wasn't.

>>151016080
The pulp medieval fantasy that inspired D&D was still more interesting than this. Gygax's inspirations were extremely varied from a wide swath of fantasy almost completely unheard of today. To call it pulp medieval is to miss the mark.

If they were making the point that fantasy worlds exist through the imagination of the players, then the final act of the game should not have been the player killing himself. That's bad for business.

>>151016882
Oh, and Itsuno's idea for an BBS RPG is interesting to read since that's the pawn system. I assume preference for this system of interaction is why multiplayer DDO is not necessarily embraced by western fans.

i love you /ddg/

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>>151017006
>If they were making the point that fantasy worlds exist through the imagination of the players, then the final act of the game should not have been the player killing himself. That's bad for business.

You thinking it's bad for business does not mean that they were not making a point about futility. You are a different person from those who wrote the script.

>>151017006
Think of Dragon's Dogma world as a old timey train on the move, except that if he stops moving for any reason the train fucking explodes.

You start at the very end of the train. You know you are on a train but you don't really know how a train works. Then suddenly a controller comes to you and say "You look pretty big, you should go to the front of the train."

So you move from wagon to wagon and meet people there, people that know they are on a train but don't really know how a train move. From time to time you find a little piece of coal, or someone gives you a piece of coal.

After a long while you meet the controller again, and he says "You look pretty big and you don't have a ticket. It's either you and me buddy."
Then you fight the controller who wants to kick you out of the train.
So you punch him and walk over his corpse because the train suddenly caught fire.
And in the locomotive you find a very old timey guy who keeps shoving coal into the machine, but he looks like he's about to run out of coal.
So the old timey guy say : "You look pretty big, you should use the coal to keep the train moving or we all die. By the way I'm too old for this shit, bye big guy."
So you take the place of the guy shoving the coal into the train's engine because the controller told you to go to the front of the train.

The passengers of the train don't really have to realize that there is someone's shoving coal into the train, they just board and leave the train. But the conductor must drive the train to its destination, and a train will outlive multiple conductors.

Basically Dragon's Dogma is a railroad tycoon game.

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>BBI
>hire /ddg/ octavia pawn
>she keeps jumping into the abyss

Why doesn't she want to be with me

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>>151018198
She's think she can take on the abyss doing what she does best : getting in its face and slashing it until it stops moving.

Unless your an elf or have an elf in your party. She hates elves.

be gentle with my pawn, she's my treasured legacy.

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>>151018131
>Basically Dragon's Dogma is a railroad tycoon game

>>151017006
>get the complete story handed to you on a silver platter by multiple people
>still don't get it
I think it's time to throw in the towel, buddy.

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I was wondering if anyone knows how shadow banning on pawns work? I lost my saves and I was an idiot to turn off the cloud saves. I want to get up to speed where in BBI. Does leveling up your pawn through the cheat engine get you ban? I want to level up my pawn and I's vocation and add a couple of dcp. I remember that changing your stats like str, stam, etc makes your pawn not shareable. I really don't care about the stats and what not I just want my levels and vocation levels back.

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>>151018386
>Unless your an elf or have an elf in your party. She hates elves.

what a big nerd

>>151018131
the only thing I would add to this is the track is in the shape of the infinity symbol or just goes on and on forever

>>151018775
So far as I've heard, the only thing that gets you "banned" is if your pawn's stats are impossible for your pawn's level by the vanilla game mechanics.

alright boys finally /postgame/
wat do before new game+

>Holy retribution

Who the fuck has the time to cast this spell

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>>151021490
Cool beans, Do you know if vocation levels gets you a ban? Thanks for the reply

>>151021956
look around the overworld for three special dragons

check out the everfall

level up vocation ranks using the gran soren guards

fite offline mode Ur dragon

Why the fuck are those golems with those magic amulets littered around the map made so fucking impossible to kill with basically any class that isn't equipped with a bow?

You can't reach some of the amulets at all if you have no bow and since pawns are retarded, they can't shoot some of the amulets because they aren't readily visible out in the open.

Those golems' magic immunity and those amulet placements basically render most classes useless against them. What the fuck is the point of that?

>>151024436
it's really only the blue classes that are fucked

you can get to every amulet, yes even the one under its foot, destroy every other amulet and he will fall over revealing the last one

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>>151018775
Only way to get banned is if you upload your pawn with 9999999HP or Attack.
You will be fine.

>>151024516
What about amulets that are above a huge drop and you can't reach them with melee attacks? I've had two of those now.

>>151024986
oh, you're talking about metal golems, sorry

yeah everyone is fucked, get a ranger pawn they do a good job of shooting those

>>151025047
Except when the amulets are over a huge drop hidden behind something and the pawn would have to be in an exact position to see it to shoot it. Try getting a pawn into that position during combat.

>>151024756
This looks like skyrim with shitty armor mods

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>>150994803
>implying rushed games cannot be awesome

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Alright guys, just beat Gregori for the first time and realized i'm unhappy with my dude. I'm level 45 Sorcerer and I hate it. Spells are real cool, but they take forever to cast even with the augment and Wyrmking ring.

I've decided to make a new guy. I'm going to make a mystic knight. My idea is 1-10 strider, then do 40 levels as assassin. At level 50, i'll change to Sorcerer (fuck me) and from 100-200, i'll go mystic knight.

Trouble is, I just got to Gran Soren and i'm level 11. Should I start over or just switch to assassin? 1 level isn't game-breaking is it? I didn't know I had OCD until now.

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>>151026218
Looks like DD to me.

>>151027205
Just edit your stats, you dont have to put yourself through bullshit like that.
Or put a lid on your autism and level up as whatever, stats gained from levels arent that big of a deal to begin with.

>gorecyclops
>minotaur dudes
I would love to meet the complete fucking retard who thought that instant death command grabs were a good idea.

do you other MAs use anything other that Ninefold, Ricochet and Explosive Volley

>>151027205
anon
my man
dude

just change your sorc to an assassin and gain some levels with that, then switch over to MK

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>>151027964
Egression: If you cant waggle fast enough.
Sanctuary: If you just dont want to die and make the game a walking simulator.

>>151028042
Sunflare.
But mostly for fun because its actually useless.

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>>151028280
are you taking 1 damage?
what is this

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>>151028529
Sanctuary with 800DEF on normal mode.
On hard mode its actually balanced and the regen from Adept's robe alone wont save you from 7 Eliminators.

>>151028136
I already fucked that up, bro. I made a new character half drunk. Gonna prob regret it later or when I realize I have to do 50 levels as a sorcerer.

>>151027205
It's okay anon, nothing is wrong here. You should be able to play any class well as long as you have the dosh for nice weapons. Weapons stats > character stats. It's gonna be fine.

>>151029026
Save yourself some suffering and just play as Ranger.

Assassin: 6str/2mag
Sorcerer: 2str/5mag
Average of Assassin and Sorcerer: 4str/3.5mag
Ranger: 4str/3mag

It's almost the same, plus you get a shitload of stamina.

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hey /ddg/
whatcha think of my irvine cosplay?

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>tfw

>>151027652
I want to do lewd things to this arisen

>>151030385
Fucking noice.

>>151030385
MA has some great fashion but..
>MA
No thanks.

>>151030682

Nice.

I've had someone spend 88k on mine

But lately the game keeps telling me servers aren't available everytime i rest so i can't see if people are renting my pawn

>>151032142
>But lately the game keeps telling me servers aren't available everytime i rest so i can't see if people are renting my pawn
d-ding dong b-bannu?

>>151032352

I've done nothing out of the ordinary unless the game considers leveling up relentlessly from farming BBI bosses cheating

>>151032708
Do you alt-tab at some point while resting? I've noticed that fucks up the sync.

>>151032920

I do but not all the time, it even gives me an error if i dont tab out

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>Find silk lingerie
>Put it on my pawn
>UNF
>Realise she would be too distracting wearing just that
>put some armour over it
>an hour has past
>I couldn't stop thinking about the lingerie wrapped between her ass
>Died to eliminator squad from not paying attention
>Take it off and discard it

Silk lingerie is a fucking curse

>>151034528
Silk lingerie is pleb tier underwear.
Cassardis underwear is where it's at.

>>151027205
Same, I got really assflustered when I got to level 11 before arriving at Gran Soren. I comforted myself with the thought that I'd have to max out the vocation anyway to get the augments.
Lvl 52 sorcerer planning on a switch to magick archer btw. Got bored of the cast times too. How come you got to Grigori so fast? I'm still on Wyrmking's ring.

HEY !

Don't die.

What's /ddg/'s opinion on elf pawns?

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>>151040331
Old elves dudes and cute mysterious elves witches are a-ok.

Loli-elves and elves that are just waifus with pointy ears deserve to be thrown off cliffs.

>>151040695
Good taste.

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Post your Arisens. Pawns optional

Sorry about the watermark. I really should install the mod that removes it

>>151040331
The more handsome the better.

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>>151042483
Thanks, friend.
I like elves that tends to break the mold of the "beautiful human with pointy ears and long lifespan."
I like elves that gives a "fair-folk" kind of vibe.
Pic related, if I make an alt account I'd like to try to make a volcano-themed elf sorceress that look like that.

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>Missing 2 tablets on BBI
>don't know where the fuck they are