/dsg/ - Souls General

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Happy birthday, Anon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3jAHIuulWE

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reposting this question:
what do you guys think the nameless kings name is? gwynondorf?

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xth for comfy big bro

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>Dark Souls 3
>get rekt by everything
Is it possible to finish the game without levelling your character?


Does levelling do anything at all? I still feel like I'm doing piss damage and every attack removes 90% of my life.

>>150848885
Have you tried gitting gud?

>>150848885
Every souls gane is doable at SL1. I don't suggest it if it's your first playthrough. It's better when you know which items to rush for.

>>150848885
i had 27vig for the final boss and he was doing laughably low damage to me
i was pretty much tanking and outhealing him

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POST CUTE PLEASE

>>150848986
Because part of bosses damage is %

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>>150849123

>>150849141
No way, sauce?

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>>150848830
I almost shat myself just seeing this.

What troubled child comes up with these ideas?
Wasn't the wall mimic enough?

>>150848983
But do they do anything at all? Levelling cost an arm and a leg (almost literally) and only gives me +3 dmg.

>>150848986
What armor?

>>150849141
What? Source?

>>150848986
That;s because the final boss does shit for damage and NG endgame is balanced assuming the player will have anywhere between 20-27 vigor, with 27 being the absolute upward ceiling, the range where someone would go to be a tank.

Nameless King is probably the only boss in the game that does enough damage on NG to be a threat to an embered player with 27 vigor, and even he doesn;t have enough HP to deal with the effective healing of 15 +10 estus flasks or deal with the damage output and poise damage buildup up of a +10 straightsword.

>>150848371

It's Sen or Faraam, with ''Gwyn'' put in there somewhere.

>>150848885
yes, it is. it's easier to play with a straight sword in this game. Raw ASS and Barbed Sword carried me all the way to NG+6

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hello?
someone with a female character put on executioner leggings
please

>>150848885
>Is it possible to finish the game without levelling your character
yes lots of people do SL1 runs

>Does levelling do anything at all
This has to be bait. No shit it does, where are you in the game? And what level? are you dodging attacks or just letting them hit you? Because the only conceivable way this is happening is because you started as deprived and are in settlement with level 1 still

Does someone have that Artorias lord of cinder picture?

>>150849446
Faraam apparently just means "the one with the exalted name" so it's likely just the Forossan name for the Nameless King.

>>150848371

Gwyn-something

>>150849446

Isn't Sen just literally "thousand"? Also DaS2 isn't canon.

>>150849464
yeah no, straight swords in pve can't stunlock worth shit

poking halberds and hammers are where it's at

>>150849609

Gwynbert

>>150849570
>Because the only conceivable way this is happening is because you started as deprived and are in settlement with level 1 still
Well...
I kind of start all my games as deprived. I love that feeling of being happy with any weapon.

>>150849464
Another neato crutch for pve is the raw DSA+resin or LB
At 60 faith and LB cast with 220 spellbuff you get 682 AR

How should I start off a Moonlight Greatsword build on DS3? Never done an Int build before, but it looks like fun.

>>150848885
Someone already beat every boss without rolling at SL1. Obviously you don't have to get that gud but seriously just get gud.

>Obobobo vs Baobao coming up

Will it top that one video?

>>150849815
I'm demoralized.
I have the feeling any mob can make me his bitch is I don't roll and move around all the time. Shields are almost useless, and my favorite weapon has a shitty range.

>>150848830
Gonna be "that guy" and say Faraam.

>>150849809
Do you want to use offensive sorceries at endgame as well or just use the MLGS?

>>150850019
Want to try a few. Must admit, whenever I see an invader throw Soul Stream at me, as shit as it may be, I'm a little jealous I can't use it myself.

What's goin' on guys?

>>150849609
"Sen" in "Sen's Fortress" isn't written the same way that a thousand (千) is. It could be a pun on thousand a la "fortress of a thousand traps" but that also doesn't necessarily mean the pun doesn't operate on multiple other registers. For example, the most obvious one is Sun, Son, Sen. Sen itself also has means relating to the sun, divinity and royalty in various arabic languages.

Mostly, people are enamoured with the idea of Sen's Fortress being the Nameless King's old fortress because the environment of Sen's appears as though it would have once played host to a God of War. It's practically lined with statues of silver knights, for one.

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>1st time doing pyromancy build
>Beat ODK
>Google tells me his soul is useless
>Eat it for levels
>Just find out I could've made that really cool fireball tornado thing that invaders keep using on me

JUST.

>>150849485
>>150849485
>>150849485
>>150849485

>>150849946
Faraam is a title, not a name.

>>150849749
>Feeling of being happy with any weapon
>start all my games as deprived
I'm sorry, does this mean you've played souls games before? If so, then you should understand what it is you are doing wrong. If you mean you start in other, similar non-souls games as "deprived" class or a class that specifically lets you use any weapon you want, then you don't have to worry about that in souls. As a matter of fact, for most "builds" in souls, deprived isn't even the ideal starting class for minmaxing. Anyway, assuming this is your first souls game and you aren't baiting me, what have you been levelling, what armor do you have, and what weapons are you using?

>>150850113
Then 60 Int is your goalpost

i have an average as fuck example build for you
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/63631
The 17/15 str/dex is for the greatsword of Judgement, another int GS thats fun to use

Spells are just my personal favorites and not optimal i think

>>150849809
Start the game with RAW ASS, rush for Oceiros then respec.
>>150849917
Learn and adapt, don't feel entitled and think that everything in the game has to go your way.

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so should i use dragon slayer greataxe or profaned greatsword

>>150850332
>1st time doing something in a souls game
>rather than taking time and figuring things out for yourself, like actually checking what the boss soul does or reading informative tooltips designed to provide you with the necessary information to make decisions, just read some random bullshit from google and swallow it without hesitation
>realize afterwards that you're a gullible idiot who ruined their playthrough by being a guidereading faggot.
>upset at anything but yourself
Kill yourself, fampai.

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>>150848830
im convinced its gwynf- something

>>150849656
idk, with a straight sword you can attack some bosses in their idle state and recover before they attack you and roll away. you can also punish many openings with more than one hit and some openings give you enough time to recover from rolling and do a regular R1

>>150850332
Should have gone to Ludleth the Manlet first to see what you can do with it, dummie.

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>>150850380
I think it looks bad

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>>150850491
>>150850507
Cheers anons, will give it a go.

>>150850332

You're literally retarded

kys

>>150848830
Gwynnie the Pooh.

>>150850832
BUT DOES IT HAVE A BULGE?

>>150850332
Gee, I wonder what could possibly be transposed from the soul of a fire boss that uses fiery attacks and wields a fiery hammer? Certainly nothing that would be useful on a pyromancy build.

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>>150850810
I did. Was under the impression GCF or BFO was still better. I'm still content with them, just a shame I missed on the actual good looking one.

>>150850835
>>150850674
Already on it lads.

>>150851057
You can see the bulge there

>>150851078
Ironically, the hammer is useless for a pyro build because it only has like a base of 60 fire damage and abysmal scaling. It;s one of the outright worst split damage weapons in the game, and somehow has a WA even more useless than normal greathammer perseverance

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>>150851078
I knew it would give me a Pyromancy, I just wasn't sure if it would be good or not.

>oroboro actually managed to get BSed in DaS3

>>150850419
>I'm sorry, does this mean you've played souls games before?
Kinda, yeah. I started with Dark Souls, it was unplayable on the computer I was using, so I skipped it and started Dark Souls 2. Only finished it once, though. And it was the SotFS version which is easier. And byfinished, I mean "killed Nashandra". Vendrick is still alive, like the Smelter Demon 2.0 and Aldia.
Still started with Deprived.
>deprived isn't even the ideal starting class for minmaxing
I don't exactly want to minmax, I just want to start from the bottom with the shittiest stuff possible and work my way to the top instead of spawning directly with an armor.
Iudex Gundyr murdered me 20 times before I killed him but I was extremely happy when I got my first sword from the hag in Firelink Shrine.
>assuming this is your first souls game and you aren't baiting me, what have you been levelling, what armor do you have, and what weapons are you using?
Not my first Souls game, but I doubt Dark Souls 2 really count, given what I read about it. Anyway.
I levelled Strength and Dexterity to deal more damage (more strength than dexterity, because I use melee weapons more often than bows), attunement to get one pyromancy spell (the flaming weapon one) and the rest in vitality.
And I'm using Solaire's set, with demon fists, a straight sword, and that little blue shield who blocks 100% physical damage.
Everything still kills me in two hits and sucks massive amount of my stamine if I try to block.
I'm probably just bad.

>>150850507
I know, but it's just my morale. I feel like the game doesn't want me to have fun, because each time I start mastering an area, the game throws a new one at my face, with totally different mobs that are even worse than before. I feel like I'm restarting the game each time, getting shitted on by everything.
I find it hard to stay motivated when I feel like I'm regressing constantly. and since I dropped the game a while ago, I probably lost my gudness.

>>150851187
YES

>>150851298
>not collecting very pyromancy in the game
I want casuals to leave

>>150851414
DaS3 actually has a fair bit of backstab tech. You can punish forward rolls with a BS almost every single time, and can reverse-backstep into people to BS them from the front.

The trick is that the angle for initiating a backstab is really forgiving, like DaS1, and you can trigger it even when the person is not in a hittable state, like rolling iframes, to vacuum them into a buggy-looking lagstab.

It works better with the hornet ring since it unironically speeds up your BS confirm.

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>>150850332

Just returns to the game and it seems dead as fuck at SL80

Did the community settle on an actual fucking sl meta yet?

>>150851679
>Keeping things you know you won't use
Collecting shit for the sake of collecting is more casual tbqh m8.

>>150851298
>I am a pyromancer
>I do not know which spells are good for a pyromancer
>I have a soul that transposes a new pyromancy
>rather than collect spells, try them for myself and determine which spells are good for a pyromancer, I will just assume that every spell is bad and lock myself out of being able to acquire them for the rest of the playthrough
>then I will go on the internet and lament my poor decision making skills because I am L I T E R A L L Y unable to think for myself.
I'll bet you probably murdered Karla and Cornyx because some post on gamefaqs told you too.

>>150850332
vestiges can 4shot NG+ second stage abyss watcher

it's literally the best pve pyromancy for bosses in the entire game

>>150851926
Chaos orb does more total damage, but only if the lingering lava manages to tick before they move out of it. It's better for static bosses, while vestiges is better for mobile bosses since all of its damage is up-front and it casts faster.

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>>150849571

someone help me pls can't find it anywhere

>when you and your buddy waste 8 crack orbs in total trying to invade each other in Blighttown

Strong.

>>150851494
>Demon fists
Sounds like you're pretty far in the game then, on my first playthrough I dropped my shield around irithyll, I haven't played through DaS2, so I'm not sure how to educate you on the difference in mechanics from 3, but what I can say is in DaS, shields are WAY more viable than in 3. also, check out how much stability you have if you're really adamant about using shields. Also, you want to end the game with about 27 vig, which is more than enough to get you through ng, especially if you use embers.

Remember when Dark Souls 2 was about masket men?

>>150852563
tell me about the lost sinner, why does she wear the mask?

>>150851804
please respond

>>150852613
uh the lost sinner is actually the bug crawling into the prisoners mouth who is wearing the mask :)

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>rtsr in ds3

>>150852496
Because I reached Irythrill.
Well, Irythrill on one side, and the underground demon lake on another.
In both areas, I get rekt. Except one has the Old Demon King that I don't want to die, and the other has the Pontiff faggot that I want dead.
>"I can say is in DaS, shields are WAY more viable than in 3"
>mfw I love shields
>mfw I went into Dark Souls to use shields without any retarded reflecting mechanism à la Kingdoms of Amalur
Annnnd, naturally, I picked the game in which shields are most useless. Fuck my life.

>27 vig
Okay, I'll check how much I have once the game is reinstalled. I believe I must have 20 vigor, I'll probably need to boost it a bit.
I don't remember if the rolling buff stat (adaptability, I think) is still in Dark Souls 3.

>>150852735
so the bird on top of the adjudicator IS the adjudicator?

>>150852872
adp is not present in ds3

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>>150848885
>I still feel like I'm doing piss damage
That's because :
1. Weapons scale less in DS3 if you haven't infused them. Infuse a weapon to be Heavy / Sharp early on or Refined at high levels.
2. In Dark Souls 3 you shouldn't be taking hits if you're not gud enough to dodge. Get a shield with high stability.

>>150849749
If you're too ungud for even PvE, you shouldn't be starting deprived. Start as Knight since it's the go-to noob class that gets equipment than can carry you through the entire game.

>>150852872
If I may, how come you don't want Demon King dead? Also, personally Irithyll is my least favorite part to go through on new characters. The pontiff knights never stop attacking, and the stretch from the fountain to the church bonfire is absolutely ATROCIOUS with those motherfucking firet witches. If you are having trouble with the pontiff knights, try doing them one at a time, and just observe their moves. It took me a while to figure them out my first time bc of the whole infinite stamina thing, but once you understand their moveset (which is really only 4 different sets of attacks) they are really easy to backstab and dodge. If you are having trouble with the pontiff himself, that is probably just the "git gud" filter boss doing his job. I really don't think you can use shields on pontiff save parrying him as he has many sequences of attacks that WILL guardbreak you. His fight is really something you have to grind and grind until you understand all of his attack sequences. He shouldn't be too bad with demon fists/ a SS, just don't get too greedy, even if the fight lasts for a million years, and learn to roll through his attacks.

explain to me how grabbing some Dark Sigils allows me to steal the First Flame?

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leaked boss names:

>Gertrude, the Heavenly Daughter
>Darkstalker Kaathe
>The Dark Soul

>>150854194
They act like a black hole for the first flame. You become even more hollow and the first flame fits in there. trust me.

>>150854362
Isn't kaathe dead?
Also, second DLC names, go

Why does the fire keeper follow you as if she can see even though she's blind. All the other blind npc act blind.

An oversight or something more?

>>150854508

Kaathe is literally the one in charge of Londor. Not just speculation but pretty much confirmed by yuria
>Kaathe, I have failed you

>>150854479
but the Dark Sigils are filled to the brim with Humanity? How can the first flame fit in their if the hole is already full?

>>150854362
>the Dark Soul
ENGAGING MAXIMUM FANSERVICE

>invade people at Shaded Woods
>show them the way out of the fog
>kill them after they light the bonfire

I-I used to kill these nerds on sight, what's happening to me?

>>150854194
the weirder question is this:

Undead go hollow when they lose their humanity, right? Then why is it that having a hole in your flesh permanently filled with Humanity INDUCES hollowing, instead of permanently PREVENTING hollowing?

>>150853047
Oh. Well, that simplifies things.

>>150853803
Haven't infused anything yet. I don't have enough Strength to compensate for the loss of Dex scaling.

And I think I'm far enough so that the cons of starting as a knight faded. I'm at Irythrill. I should have got whatever stuff I spawn with as a knight.

>>150853108
thank you

>>150854612
when you are a true hollow president of the united Londor, your hollowness knows no bound.

>>150854848
but how can you be hollow if you're stuffed to the brim with excess humanity in the first place? It's oozing out of the hole

anyone have a spare zweihander for a guy on PC who started greirat's questline with all bosses already dead?

>>150854612

Humanity is The Dark, by shoving the flame into the darkest of anusses, the dark has overcome the flame and is now in charge.

>>150855023
>started greirat's questline with all bosses already dead
wow good job nerd

>>150855023
sure. it would be nice if you could give me the Dark Hand for it

The flying fuck is the Tournament, fucking christ.

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>>150854362
>The Dark Soul

>>150855336
i regrettably don't have one
anything else you're after?

>>150855407
no, i'll give it to you anyway. what's the password/ where do i put my sign?

>>150855504
let's meet at highwall, pass dsg

>>150855358
Baobao thinks it's too easy, so he goes to losers brackets

Is there any word on a Demons Souls remastered or backwards compatibility for the PS4?

>>150855358
bao is a warrior of justice fighting for the lesser man

>>150855358
>tournament
>DaS3
fucking dark souls 1 has better mechanics for a tourney

>>150855650
Nope

>>150855747
Well that sucks

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>>150855358
Dark souls was never meant to be competitive
I've been a PvPfag for years and even I think this is dumb

>>150854754
>>150854927
it's because the Dark Sigil is LITERALLY drawing out your humanity -- it's no longer within you, it's sitting in the hole in your body.

It's analogous to the difference between having Souls in your "wallet" and Souls being infused in you as you level up.

That's how you can have a Dark Sigil and still hollow

/dsg/, does this make sense?

Murakumo or Claymore for DaS2 PvP?

>>150855358
are you serious

>>150855925
I'm drunk and couldn't understand a single thing

>>150855925
Yeah!

how about a 'fight club' fight club in the undead settlements basement bonfire with no headgear, chest armor, gauntlets or weapons

>>150854608
Someone said in the JP release she says
I've failed your dying wish Kaathe

It's a Soulslike so I'll ask here: how important is online for Salt & Sanctuary?

>>150856103
But there is only english dialogue`even in japan, why make her say the wrong thing?

>>150854362
The name "The Pain of Ages" has a boss sized healthbar in the game.

Maybe it's a DLC boss

>>150855504
thank you very much, anon
apologies for the wait; i placed my sign down in anticipation for you and only realized you had placed yours down when i went to re-place mine

>>150856080
it's getting hot in here huh

>>150855925
but then why do you retain the Dark Sigil upon death? If it's a hole filled with Humanity, why doesn't it disappear like humanity normal does after you revive at a bonfire?

Sorceries, pyromancies, miracles or hexes for PvE in DaSII?

>>150851679
>collecting shit

Why bother getting something if you're never gonna use it?

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>>150852613
>>150852563

BANE?

what the fuck is that ear-killing spell they cast to start matches

>>150856531
soul stream

>>150856325
no problem

>>150856476
why don't you lose your humanity upon reviving at a Bonfire in the first place? Unkindled don't hollow when they die normally. This is probably piggybacking or at least perverting the same magic (it has to be installed by a Sorcerer, after all)

why do people like the pvp in souls games

Does anyone on PC have a Cathedral Knight Greatsword they are willing to trade?

>>150856479
sorceries miracles and hexes with black witch's staff

>>150856482
Because fuck you, that's why.

>>150856746
upgraded?

>>150856745
>not entering someone's game to fuck with them

>>150856745
it's the most unique thing about the game how do you not like it

>>150856876

Any is fine. My max upgrade level is +4 on that char

I've made 33,000 souls killing that one right before the Deacons and no drop yet

>>150857176
its an unbalanced shitfest of trash metas. not much skill is actually required to be good at it

>siegward is stuck in his cell and isn't appearing at yhorm

Is it bugged?

>>150857204
give me a sec to find a toon with one

>>150857521
did you, you know, free him from his cell and talk to him?

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>twin prince dialogue

>>150857204
>>150856876

Nevermind, finally got one

>>150857697
Of course.

>>150857801
oh alright

>>150857858
Are you sure?

>>150857858
>>150857917
>>150857521
if you didn't talk to him at irithyll kitchen he won't go to yhorm
still get the slab tho

Whats a good spot for lvl 44 to grind sunlight medals? I'm standing at abysswatchers but ain't getting summoned.

>>150858034
>>150857858
also keep in mind he doesn't appear as a phantom at yhorm, he walks through the fog gate after you during the boss intro

>>150858053
whats your soul memory

>>150858053
pontiff is this game's O&S for summons

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>>150856745
It's like the final stage of Souls.
There's basically these levels of players :
>DSP tier
(Play it because it's the new meme game on the market, get BTFO'd by the game and instead of trying to learn the game or asking for help, throws a tantrum and quits)


>Memester tier
(Played Dark Souls for ebin Praise the Sun :DD memes, got carried by summons through the game and read a guide or two but still had fun and overall had a positive experience)

>Eben nerd cred/backlog clearer tier
(Played it because he heard from Gamespot / /v/ that it's "hardcurr", cleared it once without summons or reading. Most likely to be a fucking tryhard to others about the "difficulty" about the series.

>Souls veteran
(Played most or all of the games, possibly several times each, plays PvP casually, knows all the meta PvE techniques either through experience or talking to others, has done some co-op or PvP but is focused on having fun rather than being as efficient as possible. Does challenge runs occasionally, watches Youtubers doing PvE. Most likely to come to /dsg/ to discuss lore and general chat about the series.)

>PvP focused veteran
(Name says it on the tin : Played most or all of the Souls games, PvPs regularly, uses Mugenmonkey / other tools to make efficient and watches videos by people who PvP souls in order to become more efficient. Most likely comes to /dsg/ to talk about builds and the new metas.

>The tryhard
(The above but follows PvP Youtubers religiously, is the first to try and make builds to exploit the new metas. Always minmaxing, loses his shit whenever a new patch comes and changes the balance even slightly. Motto : "Fun is for losers!". Wants Souls to be an esport.

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>>150850587
anyone?

>>150854754
>Undead go hollow when they lose their humanity, right?
What makes you think this?
In DaS1, you reversed hollowing by offering humanity to a bonfire and burning it. You could walk around with 99 soft humanity and still hollow.

>>150857773

Gay.

>>150856745
In no other games are there Invasions

>>150854194
The dark sigil is a hole full of dark to stick fire in. Have enough of them and you can even fit the first flame in there.

Bear in mind that the original lords all literally walked up to the first flame and tore out a piece of it to use as their own power. You're doing the same thing, only you've become so powerful that you can take the whole flame. The sigils are just where you put it so it doesn't consume you like firewood when you do. It's like using dark as insulation.

>>150858470
>You could walk around with 99 soft humanity and still hollow.
That's game mechanics > lore.
The game mechanics for Hollowing are different for every game, that's why the only thing that matters in regards to the lore are what NPCs say, and what happens to them.

>>150858594
watch dogs :^)

>>150858470
In DaS2, humanity has nothing to do with hollowing, you instead hollow by giving up and forgetting who you were.
By remembering who you are, you became human again.

>>150821964
Awake.
Claymore with miracles is just trite to me.
I'm using the DMB for its looks.

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Are they Hollow?

>>150858470
>>150858646
having soft humanity in yourself is the Dark Soul equivalent of crushing white souls (soul of a lost undead, etc.) and adding them to your "wallet." They don't become a part of you unless you offer said souls to a bonfire, you're just carrying them around like loose change until you do. Burning a humanity at a bonfire is the exact same as burning souls to level up -- you're imbibing those souls as opposed to merely carrying them

>>150858739
>das2 "lore"

>>150858594
nothing is wrong with invading players and fucking their shit up but pvp for the sake of pvp is gay

>>150858892
I thought they were hollows infected by the filth of Blighttown

>>150858920
>baaaw miyazaki-kun didn't makde dark souls Ii therefore it doesn't cunt

>>150858690
Watch_Dogs was a totally underrated game, though.

>no fake death gesture

>>150858739
>In DaS2, humanity has nothing to do with hollowing
It did. There was just no free-radical humanity available because you were essentially walking into an abyss 2.0 where all the dark was emanating from and controlled by 1/4th of Manus.

Effigies, and their exact relation to hollowing is never really explained, but a couple NPCs outright state that you hollow in 2 because you don't have enough souls -because you lose souls every time you die. You seek out souls to prevent yourself from going hollow, because all undead instinctively wish to cling to their human state. That's why, even after completely hollowing and losing themselves, that instinct to seek souls still remains. Life is the power of fire and it's endued by souls, which are, literally, pieces of flame. Undead cling to life -to being human- because, despite being creatures of dark, they are unwilling to relinquish all the benefits that the power of fire has given them. Becoming hollow isn't a curse, it's just human returning to their natural state as beings of dark, beings without the power of life, death and light granted by fire. It's seen as a curse because the loss of those things is seen as bad by humans -dark beings that have had a chance to experience the benefits of fire.

>>150859539
>Effigies, and their exact relation to hollowing is never really explained, but a couple NPCs outright state that you hollow in 2 because you don't have enough souls -because you lose souls every time you die. You seek out souls to prevent yourself from going hollow, because all undead instinctively wish to cling to their human state. That's why, even after completely hollowing and losing themselves, that instinct to seek souls still remains. Life is the power of fire and it's endued by souls, which are, literally, pieces of flame. Undead cling to life -to being human- because, despite being creatures of dark, they are unwilling to relinquish all the benefits that the power of fire has given them. Becoming hollow isn't a curse, it's just human returning to their natural state as beings of dark, beings without the power of life, death and light granted by fire. It's seen as a curse because the loss of those things is seen as bad by humans -dark beings that have had a chance to experience the benefits of fire.
I wish there was more undead like that, instead of the "I'm a skellington and I kill people for the lol" or "I'm a zombie and I eat people, raawr~"

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>Aye, siwmae

What did he mean by this?

>>150858920
but yes, the humanity in the Dark Sigil could be similar to how soft humanity is handled a la >>150858920

>>150859725
He's a ethnic person

>>150859725
It's welsh.

>takes twice as long to get 30 sunlight medals than 30 tongues and vertebrae combined

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Does anyone remember the patch that made the game stutter?

>>150859886
Just invade as a sunbro, you get medals when you win.

>>150859949
I'm glad they hotfixed that quickly.

>>150859949
All of them?

>>150859969
nice, thanks bud

>>150859949
No, my memory was purged of this one event. What the fuck kind of post is this?

>>150860008
>quickly
Not enough to save me from losing 7 years of my youth

>>150860012
There was a worse one.

>>150859949
Does anyone remember that Skyrim patch that made Dragons fly backwards and never land?

>>150860012
One of the patches (done on a friday, of all things) introduced game stability issues that caused the game to freeze every few seconds anywhere in the world, regardless of system specs. It was patched after the weekend, but for that entire time the game was virtually unplayable.

Assuming Queen lothric is gwynyvere, do you think she's banging dragons and making crossbreed children for a reason? Both times she gave birth to one of these things and then peaced out immediately after

>>150859719
Because they're long past that state. They've reached a point where they cling so badly to it they lose their mind.
Skellies are literally tools animated by necromancy or other means though, they are attacking because that's what they are ordered to do

>>150860076
I want to make people remember so I don't suffer alone, dumbass.

>>150860206
I just want more original undeads. I really like Dark Souls' hollows.

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>>150859949
'stutter' is putting it mildly.

>>150860096
>SkyREEEEE

>>150860425
ARGH MY FUCKING BRAIN

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>>150859886
>when you rank them all and realize all the rewards are ass

>>150860189
>virtually unplayable
>tfw I did an entire NG+,farmed ears and participated in a /dsg/ fc while the game was suffering from the stutters

What if the game had no killboxes bar bottomless pits and the cat ring worked for any height?

>>150860680
Then I'd literally never have to do Irithyll Dungeon again and I would be able to skip all of smouldering lake by jumping out of bounds in irithyll.

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>>150860471

>>150860615
>obscuring
>warmth
>oath in coop
>OWCS
>ass

Get more blue tongues before talking nigga

>>150860774
Care to explain?

why was dark souls 3 so dissapointing

>>150860837
god damn whenever I see it my brain feels a sting

>20 firebombs
>10 rope firebombs
ok that makes sense

>10 black firebombs
>10 black rope firebombs
???

>>150860945
Because half of it is DUDE DaS1 LMAO and there's little build variety.

>>150860885
You can drop from one of the ledges at the beginning of irithyll dungeon right down to the entrance to the profaned capital, skipping almost the entire zone. Except there's a deathbox in the way so you can't actually make the drop without abusing the fall control quit-out bug.

Similarly, a piece of irithyll overlaps with ODK's bossroom and you can jump off to fall through the world and end up in the ODK fight, except that there's a deathbox in the way.

>>150860425
>DSA is still like this for me

man, has there been a time where you guys were more embarrassed for this community than today.

>>150861089
vid?

>>150861142
I'm not watching the e-celeb circlejerk, what's the drama this time?

>>150860945
It was fun on my first playthrough when I went in blind and on offline mode.
As soon as I started my second and started to try pvp I realised how fucking bad it was.

>>150861039
More like DUDE DeS LMAO if anything

>>150860945
because the newest game in the series is always the worst rite :^)

dark souls 2 was just misunderstood

>>150861234
More like DUDE BERSERK LMAO if anything

>>150860870
>nerfed to uselessness
>slow over-time heal, even post buff, inferior to estus which everybody has access to
>shitty 10% buff taking 2 slots that can't even be used in pvp
>mediocre weapon
you sure told me

>>150861209
just the fact that it's happening

>>150861282
dark souls 3 relied on a lot of spectacle bosses and moments that only work on your first playthrough and then feel bland and boring the next playthrough

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>>150859409

What would that even be? Like collapse?

>>150860945
Because you hyped yourself after Dark Souls 2.

>>150861516
In that webm you're probably invisible to them

>>150861516
I dunno, make it random, there are many death animations

>>150861458
you need to add modifiers so that we know that this is your own minority opinion and not some objective truth that is accepted by everyone

>>150861574
I was expecting a PvE experience at least somewhat better than DS2 but it ended up being worse than DS2

>>150861745
hey man do you mind if I get your contact info right quick

>>150861346
Care to name any Berserk references? Because I all I can think of is the Pontiff knight beasts, while there are entire levels, weapons and NPCs straight from DeS

>>150861606

Probably, they could fight other invaders just not me. The host's movement and the phantom's gesture are just nicely timed.

>>150861745
PvE is pretty solid in DaS2. Maybe even more than in DaS1. You can't backstab everyone anymore.

>>150861707
[MO]- Minority opinion
[OT]- Objective truth.
Dark Souls 3 relied on a lot of spectacle bosses [OT]. These moments only really work on your first playthrough and feel bland and boring the next playthough [MO].
That better?

>>150861953
this. Dark Souls 2's PvE is a lot better than it ever gets credit for

>just accidentally discovered you can chain backsteps together and change direction without any interruption

it's like a frame perfect timing

>>150861458
To be fair, so did DaS1.
I'd say if anything, the pacing of DaS3 was its biggest flaw. The buildup to abysswatchers was abrupt and anticlimactic, Yhorm's mechanics didn't suit his position in the game, and the transition to Irithyll was so sudden and abrupt it makes my head spin.

If Yhorm had been the first LoC you fought, and the position of the Profaned Capital had been roughly where Farron Keep is now, it would have made a lot more sense. His whole fight is basically a "HOW TO: WEAPON ARTS" tutorial and as a tutorial it's great, but for a boss that basically offers nothing beyond being a visually interesting way to teach the player how to use L2, it has no business being 2/3 of the way into the game after they've traversed the lost city of the ancient gods.

In fact, if Abysswatchers had been deeper into the game, and thus had been allowed to have ,ore health and damage, it would have been a better fight, too. Most of what makes their fight bad are the ways that they're balanced to be forgiving to earlygame players that reach that point, likely still only level 20-30 with a +2 or 3 weapon and little grasp of advanced combat mechanics. They would've been a much better realized experience had they been encountered around the point you meet Yhorm, instead of potentially as the 3rd boss you encounter.

>>150860202
Nobody here wants real discussion. Just memes and gay shit

>>150862070
You mean ravioli stepping?

>>150861953

Yeah, DaS2 PvE was good. The PvP was bad. The PvP only revolves around the combat, which was ruined by the movement in DaS2...

>>150848621
Anyone have a good faith/dex build?
i started herald and i have no idea what i am doing. I am too ahead to start a new game now.

>>150862127
Nobody wants to retread ENB's stupid "seath raped gwynevere" fanfiction for the nth time, faggot.

>>150860202
She probably fucked anything that found her with a large enough dick tbqh.

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>>150860945
content is great but it's organized in an overly linear fashion. perhaps the DLCs will help.

>>150862048
I just love that the DaS2 backpedaling herehas reached its final form. Oh wow

If I were to create a co-op character named BOSS REMOVAL SERVICE purpose built to kill bosses as quickly as possible with every hypermode buff, which bosses should I aim to co-op and what level range would be most ideal?

>>150862308
Mmm...So I shouldn't bother with the Demon Ruins and focus my efforts on Irithryll?

>>150862257
Then don't you fucking idiot

>>150862356
What are you talking about?

>>150862418
If you want to deprive yourself of content, sure, you should ignore an entire area.

>>150848830
Gwynton

>>150862494
I just want to progress and reach NG+ quickly.

>>150862119
I'd say that the biggest flaw of DS3 is the NG+. From had 2 entire games to learn that changing enemy locations and adding enemies to areas in NG+ is really cool and adds a lot of replay value but instead of doing something that took minuscule amounts of effort the A Team decided to just add some upgraded rings

I have the Ring of Favor and Protection, Havel's ring, and the Prisoner's chain.
So when I show up in Smough armor and i'm not even fatrolling, that's why

>>150862204
I don't know? But the change in direction is instant with no animation. Looks stupid.

>>150862308
demon ruins>profaned capital shortcut would really help with the linearity

maybe removing the archives key too so we can do that part of the game first rather than just the start

>>150862418
Demon Ruins are more difficult than Irithyll so if you're stuck at both you'd be better off focusing on Irithyll and coming back to Smouldering Lake when you've made some progress and feel stronger. The loot in there is definitely worthwhile, including 2 bone shards, an estus flask, most of the best pyromancy in the game (including chaos fireball with 0 requirements), lightning stake and one of the only 2 titanite chunks available before Lothric Castle.

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>>150862257
>ENB's stupid "seath raped gwynevere" fanfiction
Wut?

>>150860202

>Assuming Queen lothric is gwynyvere
I doubt this is the case.

>Both times she gave birth to one of these things
We don't know if Ocelotte was a dragon, and the cut content suggests that Revolver Ocelotte was,in fact, a human instead of a dragon.

>>150857521
I know this post was like 100 posts back, but I think (mind you not 100% sure) that siegward does NOT do his cutscene on any ng after you have already done his quest to completion. I've done like 8 ng+'s when siegward straight up doesn't appear at Yhorm's, even after doing his questline. Although It might have something to do with the fact that I skipped his undead settlement fire demon encounter on those

>>150862765
I thought I wasn't supposed to upgrade my weapon until the endgame?

>>150862490
>before DaS3
>this is LITERALLY one of the worst games I've ever played, and the DLCs are just polishing a turd. based Miyazaki best creator ever

>after DaS3
>suddenly I realize that DaS2 is a great game, probably the best game in the series. the PvE was great, the PvP was completely balanced from start to finish. I'm sorry I ever doubted you Tanimura-senpai please forgive me

it's just fucking hilarious

>>150862854
kek where the fuck did you read that or even think that

>>150861350
>still invaluable in fights with multiple people, also prevents hists from being able to time seeds, set up traps or hide and regen
>can heal strong mobs like sage, worm or winged knights
>specifically said coop, where it's a great pre fight tool
>boost is given even if you're not using it, maling it an useful unique off hand, R1-WA

I mean, you clearly stopped as soon as you got the rewards, so you wouldn't use these to their maximun.

>>150862961
so people cant have opinions that differ from yours without being labelled as backpedaling

>>150862961
>one poster says something so the whole board must think it's true
Also I never said DaS2 was the best in the series. The PvP is still absolute shit compared to DaS1 but the PvE is definitely not bad. I find myself playing through it a lot more than DaS1 because you have so many paths available to you at the start.
>>150862667
ye that's ravioli stepping, it's a pretty prominent PvP tech in DaS1

>>150862961
>the entire internet and all of creation is one person, and any contrary opinion is just that one person backpedalling
Did you forget your meds today?

So lore-wise, excluding PCs, what is the strongest boss?

>>150863053
I've been told it affected who I could summon or invade.

>>150862961
>strawmanning this hard

>>150863198
that has pretty much nothing to do with what I said

>>150863280
Gehrman

>>150863309
>I've been told it affected who I could summon or invade.
oh boy

>>150863280
Gwyn.
He took down the everlasting dragons and basically liberated the world, allowing humans to build kindgdoms all over the planet, for crying out loud. Drangleic wouldn't have existed without him.
And even with his soul fragmented in four, he's still powerful enough to kick your ass.

>>150863309
>I've been told it affected who I could summon or invade
It does, but only at low levels. It's an anti twinking measure so you can't be SL1 and invade with anything about +3 I think.

>>150863273
also completely nothing to do with what I said
if you think people doing a complete 180 on their opinions of a previous game in a series when the newest game comes out isn't a common problem on this site, then youre delusional

>>150863318
then what is your opinion on the series? is miyazaki the only one who can make good games? are people not allowed to dislike ds3?

>>150856482
because you have never used it and don't know if you'd want to?

>>150863589
>It does, but only at low levels
HaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA.
ANDRE, HERE I COME

>>150863309
1 - 6 upgrades is +/-2 weapon upgrade
7 - 10 is -2 +3

>>150863601
there is a thing called comparison and in comparison to ds3 ds2 has great pve

>>150863309
>I've been told it affected who I could summon or invade
It does, but if you are level 50 and haven't upgraded any of your weapons at least once, You're actually making it even worse for summoning/invading bc nobody goes to that level w/ no upgrades. The game pretty much gives you only enough materials to get your weapon to a certain point at each area, so you don't need to worry about not upgrading anything. For example, as the anon stated earlier up in the thread, you don't really start getting chunks 'til lothric castle

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>>150862771
>we'll never have armor like this in the souls series

>meta try hard tournament stream
>BaoBao drops like a bitch because of a crash
>host cant keep a 4 minute fucking timer and people complain about it rightfully
>brokensword DQd because he started fucking around

HOLY SHIT THE DARK SOULS PVP COMMUNITY IS AUTISTIC AS SHIT

>>150863280
Relative to what?
If you put them all in a moshpit, Aldrich would probably be the one to come out on top, canonically, because he's a mass of godkilling occult goo from a realm of pure dark beyond mankind's ken that has a taste for the divine and can copy powers in a fight where 90% of the heavy-hitters are gods explicitly weak to his attributes.

But that's not so much a powerlevel thing as it is a matchup thing. Aldrich is basically the worst-case-scenario that Anor Londo committed a comical amount of resources towards preventing when it was still a relevant power.

>>150863827
>we'll never have a Dark Souls RTS

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>>150863836

>>150863892
not like watching r1 spam was interesting anyway

>>150863935
>wanting it to be turned into literal garbage

>>150863935
How would that even work?

>>150864064
>he doesn't want to have an army of silver knights to fight against Drangleic' abominations

what's a fun weapon to infuse with chaos?

>>150864154
>abominations
>implying Syan knights wouldn't mop the floor with gwyn's shiny cucks.

>>150856492
you don't get to bring any whote phantoms

>hosts who just wait near the bonfire because you invaded
I went to take a piss and they're still waiting.

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>>150863827
Good thing CE exists so you can fuck around with things

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How does PvP change when going into ng+? Is it even worth going into ng+?

>>150864302
This is literally the reason that fromsoft gave us the obscuring ring.

Pull out a greatbow and get sniping.

does ds3 continue after the last boss or does it start NG+ automatically?

>>150864252
... shit, now I really want that game.
Maybe Crusader Kings 2 was modded. Or Civilizations.

>>150863827
alonne knight helm with alva chest?

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How often will people black crystal out of my world if I use this?

>>150864513
>ds2

>>150864419
How do I get the obscuring ring?

>>150864252
Syan Knights a shit. They could probably hold a good frontline, but they have nothing to back them up. Theyre just walking shields.

>>150864549
1/100 invasions

>>150864551
>souls series
even if you consider ds2 as canon as des for ds1/ds3, it's still souls

>>150863625
I don't care what you think about DaS3 or any of the games, it's not an argument about the quality of DaS2 or DaS3. I just want people to be consistent about their opinions. If you spent months tearing down a game that you've played thoroughly for being shit, why should a new game in the series change that.

Both DaS2 and DaS3 should be shit if you didn't like DaS2 when it came out and you didn't like DaS3 when it came out.

and don't trot out the dsg is one person argument, because it's been a pretty consistent problem since DaS3 came out.

>tfw wasted money on ds3 season pass
Anyone here want to help justify my decision

>>150864747
>implying everyone agreed on this
I'm going to teach you something : /dsg/ isn't a monolithic block.

>>150864747
Then why assume that everyone you reply to thinks DS2 is shit in every way, when a sequel come out there will always be weak points that you can compare to other games and appreciate how they were done before and start to appreciate the previous games after seeing how things shouldnt be done

>>150864890
10 days it will be announced (the dlc)

>>150864608
Donate 10 pale tongues to rosie.

>>150864945
I'm pretty sure you're somewhat illiterate, dude

>>150864890
you fucked up, never ever buy season passes. always wait for the content to come out to see if it is good or not. never get hyped for anything

>>150865063
Ha shit. Doesn't it trigger a NPC to fuck off?

>>150865116
then why the fuck do you use it in your argument

What's with people in here suddenly moaning about halberds?
>Wow nice glaive/lucerne R1 spin sweep stunlock abuse you fucking faggot kys

>>150865319
because toggling doesn't exist in this game

landing a single R1 = 1100+ damage

>>150865132
Worst of all... I pre-ordered the season pass when the game wasn't even out

Now I have a game with 0 replay value and 2 3 hour long dlcs

>>150865132
I bought the game + season pass for 25 bucks. I can't complain.

>>150865319
What's with people saying it's sudden when glaives have been complained about since day 1?

They have the best HA, range and spinsweep has a 3 hit combo now.

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:^)

>>150865263
If you had actually read my post, you would see that I invalidated the exact argument that you brought up on the basis that it's been a common problem over several months.

Also, nowhere did I say that every single person in dsg shared this viewpoint, I know that everyone doesn't share it because all it takes is for one person to post 'ds3 is bad' or 'dsg is good' to attract like-minded people to those posts. I'm only saying that the aforementioned problem is enough of an issue (not just in here, but on the site as a whole) to be pointed out.

>>150865406
It's almost like combos are a thing

>PvPing with anri's/sorcery luck build
>Opponent using MLGS barely on a third of his health
>Rollcatch him with stance R2 poke
>Still alive, turns around and R1s
>2 hit stunlock means I lose 70% HP and die

I guess souls pvp is just shit then

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>>150865628
Wow how original

>>150865793
Yes, DaS2 and DaS3 are extremely shit for pvp because of this

In DaS2 if I use any resin while I'm powerstancing, BOTH weapons get buffed, right? But you can't buff infused weapons with resins, right?
I'm trying to decide between dual Caestus or Vanquisher's Seal here.

>>150865793
Just play DaS1 if you want PvP.

>>150865854
sry next time I'll go whack them three times with a DMB carthus

What boss did you guys struggle from the most first playthrough?

The game was nearly a breeze to me until the princes.

>>150865406
Toggling?

>>150866021
>

>>150866127
Cool arrow

>>150866096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVdvduhI6E

>>150865784
So you are just saying "hey guys i think you have this opinion so please stop thinking that". Why were you complaining before and now you say you are just pointing it out

>>150865974
only the right unless you 2hand the left first
yes

>>150864890
the DLC has been the best part of every Souls game and BB
you'll get your moneys worth

>>150866021
>just play a shitty game infested with hackers if you want PvP

What are the softcaps for STR and DEX in Dark Souls 2? 40 or 50?

>>150866021
Last time I played the game I had a SL125 dex/faith build and townshit was dead, and I find parish twinking boring. What should I do?

>>150864407
>How does PvP change when going into ng+
It doesn't. The only thing that changes is maybe you pay more attention to mobs when getting invaded cos they hurt more or if you're a faggot and seed then it hurts the invader more too.

>Is it even worth going into ng+
There are a couple of reasons why going into ng+ is good. More souls if you aren't finished levelling, +1 rings, It's nice to runthrough the game with a finished build sometimes, and most importantly, you can do dried finger runs and experience PvP the way it was meant to be experienced

>>150866213
ds1 dlc was pretty lame in comparison to the rest of the game tbqh

>>150866238
>what is google

>>150866230
What? There are like 2 regular cheaters in Township that use anything you can't avoid with watchdog.
>>150866240
Township is pretty alive for me. Download Wulf's connectivity mod.

>>150866371
Getting conflicting information from the wikis.

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>>150866240
pick your poison

http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/1047/?

>>150864890
You're going to buy both DLC's anyway if you even remotely enjoy the souls experience because so will everyone else, and the game will be alive for at least a week if its bad DLC just to try things out, or (hopefully) the game will be alive for a longer time because souls DLC is generally gr8

Why are the winged fatties such bullshit
>jumps into the air
>spins while flying and tracks me while I run away
>delays attacks specifically until I roll or try to do anything at all

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>>150864890
The DLC will likely be good. I've yet to see DLC that was worse than the base game for the Souls series.

>best dex weapon in ds2 is the rapier
>I hate the poking moveset

They shouldn't have merged BB with DS. They should've kept DS slow and steady and give us BB2 instead of the abomination we got.

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>>150865628
I like your style.

>>150866773
>give us BB2
pls no

>>150851414
what's the significance of this? I recall he was just some annoying faggot

>>150866594
Good news bud. Enemies in souls gam,es don;t vary their timing based on player actions. Their timings are fixed, so if you;re getting hit because an enemy is delaying an attack, it's a fixed delay time the devs put in to anticipate the behaviour of a predictable, mindless player and you're just falling for it hook, line & sinker. Get better and you'll stop falling for it.

>>150866621
What Priscilla's feet smell like?

>>150866820
You.
Go fuck yourself.

>>150866773
True.

>>150866723
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>>150866885
Backstabs are notoriously terrible and easy to avoid in 3. Some faggot who literally makes a living by claiming he's the best dark souls player got himself backstabbed by a better player taunting him for being shit.

Best midgame bow in DaS2?

Why does Havel hate mages?