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Rank 8 Clerics: http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=40

Previous: >>150659871

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Soon™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : dead
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cleric-rank-8-preview-translations/318592/1
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When will we get R8 here?
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Rank 8 Rankings:

Sword>Cleric>>Archer>>>>>>>Wiz
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>>150701130
>sword>cleric
nah cleric was better
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/Ohayou/ when?
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What are the chances they will introduce new classes in lower ranks?
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What the fuck is this Kabbalist doing with her hand?
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>>150701275
Hey Katz, I think you're sexy and I wish we could be more than friends....
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Post Lewd!
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Is this enough evasion for lv 81? Im planning to reach atleast 700
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Why did they nerf dark therge to 1/4?
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>>150701236
Low.
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>>150701363
Because they don't know what they are doing.
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>>150701219
Cats is leveling the templar right now
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>mfw inquisitor reveal
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How do I know if my enemy is plate/leather/cloth?

Is it automatically

Arhcer = Leather
Melee = plate
mage = cloth
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What happens if someone brings an Oracle C3 Sex shop to a meet up?
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WHERE ARE T8 CLERIC TRANSLATIONS
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>>150701470
no, everyone wears plate
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>>150701354
No one cares.
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>>150701493
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cleric-rank-8-preview-translations/318592
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>>150701513
really? all monsters wear plates?
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>>150701604
no he's lying
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>>150701493
>>150701102
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>>150701480
Lalacows will become a Lalabulls
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>>150701480
Nothing.
Nobody will use it.
Maybe some people will laugh at that retard for putting 1 point in that shit skill.
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>>150701604
Oh wait you're referring to monsters. no idea too senpai sorry
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>>150701604
Yes, he's telling the truth.
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the real me........
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>>150701470
Use the addon
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>>150701520
Really don't know whats worse the discord circlejerk or the LP circlejerk

I wish that shit wouldn't spill over in the thread but it always does
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>>150701748
I plan on changing genders every odd day, so I guess Oracles will love me.
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>>150701772
its okay mate, thanks

>>150701809
I have it but I dont seem to get what the symbols mean
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>>150701345
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>>150701748
I'd pay 10 mil for genderswap if there was only 1 oracle3 in all of Klaip, really hope there will be more though
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>>150701808
It's funny how he's already wearing heels and he's a cleric to boot.
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>>150701938
>>150701480
I wonder if there'll be a cool down period where you can't change back into your previous gender.
Would be funny to see people changing back ad forth from male and female at meet ups though.
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>>150701916
i-is that beethoven or am I mistaken???
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Is the game dead yet? I stopped playing about 2 months after it was officially released.
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>>150702283
Is your fuking mom dead yet?
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>>150701520
>gives out free bee leech to tosg
>gets shitted on in the end
top kek discord
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>>150702102

yes
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>>150702381
w-w-w-wha!!!
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Uhmm, when is Mr. Kim going to fix party questing?
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>>150702374
Who the fuck are they even talking about? Kayori?
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>>150702442
literally never
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>>150701879
brown hex = leather
patchy hex = ?
metal hex = ?
You can figure this out
Alternatively you can guess or pay attention to the %damage
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>>150701345
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>>150701520
>why did roid rage saori ever ocme back anyway
I can't understand this, someone translate Retardnese.
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>>150700973
I demand that a drawfag incorporate this.
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>one slot open in my bokor PD PVP build
>having a really hard time not just taking priest for ressurrect and a weak blessing and 28% pdef
Is there any other strong 1 circle drops in Cleric besides Oracle? I've already got Cleric2, and Pardoner's benefits don't beat Priest's in my eyes.
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>>150701719
I'm ok with this
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>>150701520
a discorder who quit tos months ago but still hangs around shitposting and shilling ow, and a literal redditor with the same handle?
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>>150701808

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0lG8YorBsU
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>>150702442
>tfw party questing with my fiancee has strengthened our bonds by overcoming Kims wild ride of getting stuck in party quest cutscenes

There's something magical about working in tandem to advance every quest perfectly and efficiently by using the right distances and knowledge of most of the quests having played so many alts.
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>>150701520
what a fucking cowards and hypocritical fuck faces.

just like kayori
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>>150703208
>evergarden
>dvine
>kayori
Why is Rance the only one who escaped the bee mafia without a shitload of drama?
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>>150703276
who ?
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>>150701520
>spy pretends to be Saori in threads
>Saori gets mad and leaves discord / removes everyone from friends
>randomly comes back to see translated cleric r8 notes from Akai
>then leaves almost immediately
>spy then posts this

Why are you so pathetic? Posting screencaps from the discord does nothing but stir up shit. Fuck off.
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This thread is mage free
If yopu are a magic user and not a Chronomancer then leave this place at once or get fucked by the Goddess FWEEEs
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>>150703339
/tosg/ is actually the single worst general of /vg/

I think it's partly a combination of everyone being divided up because of the stupid guild limitation, and part having the most passive-agressive, bitter and jaded collection of mid-twenties players that came back for le RO nostalgia.
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>>150703583
>birds do like 7 damage
>if they proc the special version they do 21
OH SHIT
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Are there any Rodels here in tosg? ive only encoutnered a handful of them in my 3 runs in this game, please help me out on distribution, which skills am I supposed to take / max at Rodel c1? also im getting tons of CC which ones should I use at pvp? and are there skills that are more likely to hit than others?
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hey fuglords

what's a good wizard 3 build that goes into sage?
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>>150702950
if you take Druid for Telepathy I really doubt you could lose a 2vs2. You just buff your other guy, hardlock down one of them (preferably the cleric) and it'll be a 2vs1 almost instantly.
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reminder if you play priest i'm reporting you for botting
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>>150703727
rodel is a garbage meme that sucks balls.
The only reason you take rodel is for slithering + high kick strike debuffs in preperation for r8 murmillio
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>>150703826
wiz 3 pyro 3
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>>150703641
It is not. Here at least there is lot of talking about the game. RO generals at some point turned into ecelebs, clique boogeyman and massive shitposting and even then I heard that some other generals were even bigger shitfest.
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>>150703679
It's 3x the damage of the spell detected by birds sent back to the mage
It's an heat seeking 3x reflected Meteor,Flesh Cannon,etc in PvP
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>>150703727
Full DEX with 50 SPR
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>>150703339
kayori left because it was definitely someone from discord impersonating, though from nagi's attitude i wouldnt be surprised if it was him

screencapping shit like this is good because we can stay away from that shithole discord channel that claims itself "/tosg/"
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>>150703857
grind parties 0

what's a good guild with wiz 3 linker 3 that goes into sage? :^)
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>>150702950
Nothing else too notable imo. diev / druid is just eh
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>>150703641
People actually play and discuss the game here. I had to abandon another general since people were openly namefagging/tripfagging and it was actually encouraged.
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>>150703883
>summon skeletons
>nothing happens
>they kill the melee cleric
OH SHIT
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>>150703641
you haven't seen shit then
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>>150703838
literally druids in 2v2 can just plant grass>mindrape>grass tentacle rape which will kill pretty much anyone
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>>150703838
>he hasn't faced stealth hook
>he hasn't faced stealth snipe/cannon
>he hasn't faced meteor camping
>he hasn't faced sorc with its 280 pets
>he hasn't faced x and y
Theres 101 and more why druid is hardly ever a good choice in 2v2.
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>>150703879
>>150703925
>>150703934
There is not and never will be a more cancerous general than /xivg/, and sadly Discord still contains leftovers of the group that came from there.
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>>150703641
Uhmm, /terag/ is pretty bad, anon.

I never want to go back
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>>150703883
but what if I use counterspell? what will proc first? my birds of death, or my CS?
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Hey, let's give pd a dispel. Yeah, okay, they are already the best in the game. Kim clearly wants tbl to be clerics vs clerics.
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>>150704054
You've never been to /terag/ and its erp fuckfest if you think /xivg/ is bad
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>>150703641
/wowg/ is objectively worse, but give /tosg/ another year and it'll get there.
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>>150704143
Birds seems to proc on cast and only on offensive spells
So they are Elememe, Kinos and Necro retards filters not proccing them with Energy Bolt
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>>150704321
Or you could just earthquake them all.
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>>150704321
>proc with energy bolt
>still die due to full int and shit ton of matt whilst no con
lmao I can already see it happening
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>>150703583
daily reminder magic hurt our cute goddess

when you cast quikcast it provokes diarrhea to our cute goddess vakarine

magic is hell

magic is an abomination of the demons

magic is only used by demons we must punish magicians, magic is heresy, is a sin.

heretics must be punished and killed all of them.
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>>150704536
dvinebirds
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I really hope int druids will be able to use werewolf effectively
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How does skill scaling work? My stone shot has 150%+125 and yet it almost does the same damage as my oblique shot with 102. The 150% doesn't work?
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>>150703929
>>150703838
Thanks m80s. I'm gonna go with Priest because I like the idea of being able to revive teammates over mind control and don't really see any benefit to druid other than it.
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>>150704536
Cast an Energy bolt to something and look the damage then x3 it to see if you can safe proc them :^)
Remember Birds are faster and attack before than the spell which proc them
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>>150704583
>to our cute goddess vakarine
but she uses magic

ur a retard anon
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>>150703583
>fwee
Fuck off, you're not a true fwee.
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>>150705021
Only because she succed some out of Hauberk
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>>150705069
not true

vakarine is a slut

ur a retard anon
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>>150704835
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/30005
pierce
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/30204
strike

You do know how damage bonuses against certain types work right?
Please git gud kohai
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Down with magic, burn the witches.
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help ; A ;
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>>150705161
>clerics use magic

ur a retard anon
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>>150705246
rip in peace, enjoy re downloading the whole thing again
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>>150705246
run, run far far away
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How do I insert npc pictures into crafted items?
I tried using japanese language but still cannot type any symbol.
Please spoonfeed me.
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How does a druid crash a channel? I keep seeing a few people talk about it but how's it actually done, something about transforming?
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>>150705632
it's bannable
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>>150704536
>birds are retard filters
>full INT 0 CON PvP mememaster gets filtered
Working as intented
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>>150705246
open it through the folder exe
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>>150705748
It's fine
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>>150705789
no using bold text will get you banned and so will this
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>>150705632
>not using npc img addon
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>>150705756
>muh scaled down no equipment a-arena
fuck off you retard shitter.
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So how do you all rank the R8's in class order?

I say sword=cleric>>archer>wiz

Just because of how much more exciting sword and clerics are compared to archer and wiz.
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>lvl 233
>No places to level, Evac exp sucks solo
>No more quests
>Only thing left is Sialuai mission in merc post

So, is this the around of the point that people quits? Evac solo exp is like 2m per hour, god, Truffles and some other spots was like 10m. And it's not because I take too long to kill them, it's more about low spawn, so I can use the max of my AoE.

I guess I should just card to 250 and be 250 forever.
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>>150705849
Sauce please.
> inb4 google
Didn't find it
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=npc+image+addon+tree+of+savior
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>>150705989
>I guess I should just card to 250 and be 250 forever.
card/get to 252 and party grind in storage till 265, then maven to 280.
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>>150705902
Cleric>Archer>Sword>Wizard
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>>150705989
retard, there are quests til like 255 at least
and alemeth is good til 232
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If you get hit while buffed with Mackangdal does it interrupt channeling?
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>>150706113
it shouldn't interrupt, you're basically "invincible" although you can still get CC'd
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>>150705902
archer>cleric>sword>wiz

I don't like musket that much, neither hack, but fwee 3, mergen and SR3 look fun to play cannon2 might be strong with that siege stance but who knows

Cleric didn't dissapoint at all, everyone got what they wanted, except maybe kaba 2 but it looks like a good money maker..

Sword, people got excited about it, but as always the problem with sword is you need to carefully plan and synergize shit or your build is shit, they didn't seem to fix that at all. Eventhough everyone seems to think sword will be the new fotm I'll remain skeptical until I see the cooldown on some of the abilities.

Wiz was very underwhelming, but wiz was already the top dog in the game so it's alright. Maybe Sage is super fucking awesome if it multiplies more than fireballs, alche 3 homunculus looks like exactly what they needed but need more info on how many skills can be used by it. Enchanter might ruin the game for many people, or be fucking useless if it doesn't allow you to make actually useful scrolls, so regardless of the result it will break the game or be mediocre bleh. FF remains situational, lock gets more of the same I guess. Maybe it's not that wiz sucked, it's just that it couldn't get that much better than it already is.
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>>150706068
So it gets better on 252? I'm a bit more motivated now then, because was getting really silly.
Thanks.

>>150706090
Yeah, I know that Alemeth is good, and I'm 233, its not that great anymore.

Also, after Ibre Plateau I didn't got any new quests, dunno maybe I'll get more with levels then, because right now I've done all of them.
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Disk read error

what do?
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>>150705246
just had this problem, here is how I fixed it.
Open up the steam app and do this:
Libraries->Right Click Tree of Savior, click Properties-> Local Files->Verify Integrity of Game Cache.

That will automatically fix your disk error.
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>All the fun builds are a pain in the ass to level or require a main giving them gear
>All the builds that are good at levelling are shit at endgame
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>>150706492
do this, i just posted this for the other guy
>>150706526
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>>150705246
theres your window, now run
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>>150706456
there are quests at
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/world-map
>Igti Coast
>Grand Yard Mesa
>Sventimas Exile
>Kadumel Cliff
>Steel Heights
>Grynas Trails
>Grynas Training Camp
>Grynas Hills
for some you need lvls
can do some map100%s if you lack cards

and yes. storage party grind is pretty good. i see parties searching for 'any dps' or 'anyone' each day (not very often tho)
you dont even need to talk to ppl. join, say hi, grind a few hour if nobody leaves, say bye
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>>150706492
I got the same error, IMC just updated the client and fucked it up. Do this >>150706526
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>>150706629
But anon this is EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE. Necro2 broke this, easy as fuck to level, I soloed up to 252 and only stopped because I got bored.
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>>150706526

Thanks anon! I was gonna sleep on it but you saved me there
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>>150706665
>>150706785

thank you my good friends
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>>150706665
>>150706785

do I have to redownload addons?
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Who's joining me in the arena?
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>>150706962
no bruh
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>>150707062
would this also fix the pink pixels>dc??

;__;
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>>150706797
Hurry up and get to 280 REEEEEEEERI
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Reminder.
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How would this affect everything?

Unlimited Dungeon runs for 1 day
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>>150707106
I can't. I have to get started on my Professor.
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WHERE'S THE DETAILS ABOUT LAMA IMC

LAMAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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i'm gonna be the highest farmed person in klaip soon. tomorrow i'll beat momohime
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>>150707179
As if that will affect anything

>Exceeded Server Instance
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So wait, inquisitor's "physical attack"? Melee physical attacks will be spread? Am I supposed to roll a pala or monk now to use it all well?
Damnations!
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>>150707093
i dont know what that is. Iv never heard of pink pixel error. Just try what I said, maybe it will fix it
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>>150703168

Are you me? Literally doing the same thing.
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>>150707245
Silver cucks
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>>150707436
>>150703168
How are you guys doing this? My fiancee and I couldn't figure out the correct distances even if I've autistically rerolled like 8 times.
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>>150707245
can you be my sugar daddy?
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>>150707241
>ranch is going to reroll and outlevel 80% of our guild in one week
>for the third time now
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>>150707575
the right distance? it's literally just be offscreen of the area, as long as you teleport in anyway it'll be fine. Maybe it was worse before but right now its fine as long as you coordinate and one person lead
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>>150707684
When I tried this a patch ago if we were more than a screen away it teleported her to me but she was locked in place. Maybe we'll try it again then.
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Here is aniother good example of imcs incompetence.
Everyone remembers that once you couldn't claim rewards for journal kills of certain mobs? Like black old kepa or brown terra imp? Remember how they did fix it? Well, guess what, right now for some reason its broken again and you can't claim exp cards for them.
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>>150707245
that's actually pretty cool

congratulations dvine!
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>>150707791
baka some mobs just don't have a journal exp card reward count
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It was a valiant effort.
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Inquisitor skillset will make Monks good
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>>150707872
That was a bug that they fixed. Go to forum and use search.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111666f.1f2d355a6171.1f213d415a65.113545526181

Should i get Kabba2?
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>>150707993
go to sleep, mid
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>>150705902
Fwee3 = Daoist > sword > cleric > archer > wizard
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>>150707616
>Meanwhile, jobless me can't even get a character above 215
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>>150707602
only if you're a purebred necromancer and possibly daoist in the future
>>150707796
i didn't think i'd reach the goal of being 1# farmed in the silver ranking cause momohime existed. thanks imc for banning my hardest competitor
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>>150708343
Was Momohime making more profit per day than you? Also, how much do you make per day on nerfed bees?
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>>150708343
what was momohime's build?
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PvPing in Fedi Pits for last minute warmup. Please join!
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>>150708343
Shame you don't do anything with all that silver besides being worthless
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Wiz3->Ele3->WL is still alright for PvE, right?
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>>150708553
its a bot that farmed vedas for god knows how long
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>>150708553
chaplain bot that ran around 24/7 farming to sell on mmotank or something
>>150708496
my profit is still good and i didn't think i'd bet her cause it'd take so a long time to overtake it since i quit for a month while her farmed.
>>150708596
if i could spend money so you'd lose money i'd make sure you couldn't afford to warp anywhere. me actually making myself useful to the likes of you? that's a delusion you won't ever see.
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Just hit 50. How do I go about getting a group for the dungeon? Just use the statue? Spam chat? Do I bother with the dungeon or just keep questing?
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>>150708762
Now that's what I call edgy.
The fact that you immediately assume I meant being doing anything by being useful or that I would want help from a worthless faggot like you is hilarious though.
Keep on trucking, trash.
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>>150708825
Yes, use the party search function from the statue if possible, it gives a 600% exp bonus. The level 50 dungeon in particular is very good, 3 runs should shoot you up to 58~65 depending on token + team bonus.
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wiz 3 kino 3
what else for r7 and r8?
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>>150708825
click the statue and find a party. you dont really have to do it, but it will give you like 10 levels. mainly i think you should do it because its fun to look back at remember your first dungeon.
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>>150708862
Paranoia is part of the dvine experience. He doesn't hold back on his insanity, not one bit.
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>>150708957
>>150708862
i'm worthless to who retard? you? the people i'm friends with? sorry loser you don't ever get to decide my value or worth. the only people suffering from something is the two of you. it's called jealousy. it's okay that you're worthless. you can keep playing at your own pace.
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>>150708957
I don't think that's really paranoia.
I think he's just autistic as fuck and is somehow thinking that him having a bunch of virtual currency means everyone wants to use him.
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>>150709190
Fuck off already
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>>150708657
It's still the strongest.
And it will always be with Chappartion card effect.

People are just hyped about new classes, when in general, only few things will change.
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>>150709190
>Jealous
>Of someone who autistically farmed bees over the course of several months
Sorry, I'm too busy actually playing the game.
But hey, throw back those insults and pretend that you're somehow worth something and aren't pathetic as fuck for doing this.
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>>150709190
>Stays afk with a character while crying to friends on discord if someone enter his "SPECIAL ZONE"
>Jealousy

I love /tosg/, I love /tosg/ SO MUCH
Dvine, never leave the thread, your shitposting is top compared to Lolipans bashing.
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>>150708904
feathershit
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>>150707242
Sorry, Koenig...
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>>150707242
Koenig just go inquisitor.
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>>150709195
you're really out of your mind. people want to use me? who is people? relax and take a breather. remember this is just a game. a really poorly put together one at that.
>>150709315
>i'm busy grinding a gook cookie clicker while you relax and earn x10 more than me
i play the game too just the fun parts though.
>>150709424
still angry about that ahina? let go of the past. it was a warning so people aren't surprised when i do it.
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>>150709195
That's pretty much what paranoia means.
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>>150709637
>people want to use me?
That's the joke, no one gives a shit about you.
I almost pity you at this point.
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>>150709637
>dvine posting "play the game"
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>win first game
>get 0 points
Getting real tired of this shit.
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How do you deal with desyncing Catas in pvp?
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Is LKChat worth using over the addons in the addon manager? Seems to be incompatible with pretty much everything.
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>A newly added "Stonehenge" skill will increase the skill level of all Cleric magic circles and deployed objects by 1 each. Furthermore, the abilities of all of the Druid's transforms will be increased.
>be Diev3Druid3
>cast Divine Might
>cast the Stone
>now i carve lv 16 Owls
>cast the grass
>cast Carnivory on it
>now i have +21 Carnivory on ground
>mfw
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>>150709739
>literal who talking about who cares and who?
irony is also good. since you care enough to force it i'm clearly somebody to you.

>>150709781
that's my favorite thing to post
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>>150709898
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>>150709898
>Being a literal who is bad
I mean, okay. This only confirmed that you're just desperate for attention.
I wonder how long it would take for you to resort to samefagging on the rare chance that everyone just stopped replying to you at all?
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>>150709859
pretty sure the stone is just an object version of dvine might, not +5 to your skills
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>>150709797
>cast hell breath
>full immunity against melee
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So, as a wizard fag, I guess it's time to quit now that every other option looks more viable and fun.
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>>150710116
are you retarded?
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>>150710090
Play the game.
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>>150710116
>dt infused auto attack
>wizard has the worst rank 8
>meanwhile everyone will cry about how unfair a homing dt is in tbl
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>>150710116
>Make Kino because guild wants more
>Cleric info drops
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>>150710253
>homing dt in TBL
>le revenge seven face
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>>150710010
>why isn't he on the silver ranking if he farmed so much
>i walk up to silver ranking and surprised to find myself #2 and soon to be #1
i don't blog about my arena wins so i don't need to respond to myself unlike you. stuff like being the most farmed and having 100% attribute gets natural replies.
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>>150710230
Wizard at this point is a glorified support class. If I'm not linker nor chrono, high chances I'm a dead weight.
I can't even recall the last game where the mage archetype was anything but a glasscannon. Meanwhile, a cleric can deal more damage AND keep himself safe, while providing party-wide support.

And I don't care about minigames.
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>>150707245
I came here to laugh about >>150686751

Deniers got ruined like bees.
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>>150710054
yes it's a Divine Might Statue
Tbh Druid3 is the most underwhelming new cleric on preview unless the werefolw thing scale on INT or you have boner for lv 15 Carnivory, the preview didn't mentioned any Sterea upgrade neither
Was thinking of going Cleric2Diev3Druid2Inquisitor for that wheel chair and help swordie friends
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Welp. Just did the first dungeon. No idea what I was doing and I felt like I contributed little to nothing other than putting some guys to sleep. Got like 7 levels though so fuck yeah.

What's the best thing I can be doing as a wiz3? Just spamming sleep and whatever damage spells I can? I try and keep quick cast up though its not maxxed out on its attribute yet. I felt like I was doing no damage at all compared to whatever else was in the party.
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Fuck, I really want that Inquisitor now but with my INT Diev I can't!
Damnit!
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>>150710389
17 seconds of sterea troph is pretty danke though
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>>150710290
>I don't come here to blog about playing the game
>Instead I come to blog about how much of my life I've wasted farming a currency I'll never do anything with
Well have fun with that one.
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>>150710359
I can recall Dungeons and Dragons where Batman Wizards were serious business and plenty of players liked to focus on battlefield control while fighter peasants did the dirty work.
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>>150710417
spam magic missiles, sleep all the archers, do not cast earthquake or I will slap you through the monitor

>quick cast up though its not maxxed out on its attribute yet
go max that fucking attribute already, sell that talt
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>>150710417
QC + MM is going to be your biggest source of damage for a while, if you have sacrament + some extra equips AA's do OK damage if you interrupt the animation by jumping.
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>>150710389
Druid3 looks great. It could be nothing but 5 more levels on Carnivory and Sterea and it would still be good.
Being able to lock down entire packs of mobs with Telepathy is pretty broken, and that DM Statue is crazy good if it stacks with DM, which I don't see why it wouldn't. Lycan Transform is probably gonna be relatively shit
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>>150710461
You can keep doing events, hoping to get a stat reset potion or something
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I dislike how all the Cleric R8s are PvP focused. They are obviously going to be okay in PvE too, but the focus for all of them is very clearly PvP which is pretty disappointing
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>>150710662
No wolf will be great
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>>150710793
>the only remarkable skills Druid gets are
>AoE mind control that literally does not work in PVP
>Werewolf which will no doubt remove all of his useful skills for gimmick ones that are probably fine in PVE but useless in PVP
>kabbalist c2
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>>150710493
>get rank 19 barely playing an hour per day while you're what rank
>first week doesn't count!! i didn't get a good rank so it doesn't matter
kek. you think i'll allow you to move the goalpost and decide what's what? you lost your best chance.
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>>150710984
>rank 19!!!!!!!!! i was rank 19!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was in 2v2 you pleb
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>>150711135
Quit responding to him. All he wants is attention.
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>>150710793
if you think druid c3 is pvp then you're retarded desu
oracle c3 is not pvp
kabba c2 isn't pvp either
PD has always been the pvp focused class so what the hell
inquisitor yeah i guess but there are lots of strong mage mobs so it's useful there too
then we have daoist which is definitely not pvp lmao that's pve
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>>150710930
>Transform into boss monster
>Immune to CC
>Every attack does knockback
>"useless in PvP"
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Okay, I finally managed to look mid-game! I'm definitely getting +1 to my cata skills from my spear to the guy that was wondering.
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>Guild leaders get a birthday cake next to their guild name
What did they mean by this
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>>150711432
Ignore the theorycrafters.
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>>150710567
Aye aye capn.

Can I ask why earthquake is bad? I understand its damage is mediocre and I don't plan on wasting the mana, but couldn't it be useful for momentary stuns via knockup?
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>>150711135
>5v5 or 2v2 matters with imc balance and tos game engine
nobody can say with a straight face any part of the game is balanced or matters.
>>150711203
>nobody pays attention to me
here's your (you) you're desperate for.
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>>150704140

are you SURE you dont want to come back to /terag/? these butts dont lie.
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>>150711446
As mentioned a thousand times before, all the secondary effects of your equipment still apply. The only thing that gets synced is the main effect, ie what is written in big white letters directly under the weight when you look at the tooltip.
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Any full STR fencers around?
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>Faggot who can't attack an enemy I hold blames loss on me
>He isn't even ranked
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>>150711609
usually you'll only cast it when enemies are clumped up but if you EQ it flings everything around. Clumped up is good
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>>150711609
It's bad because it scatters mobs about, which is the opposite of what people want in pulls.
It's good for solo as a single point ability, but not in groups.
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i kinda fucked up the team name thing. how to change?
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>>150711670
None of the secondary effects from manamana applies though?
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>>150711723
>>150711740
Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the heads up. Trying to be as un-scrublike as possible.
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>>150701275
She's doing magic shiet breh
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>do Orsha questline for a change of pace
>no stat points
>no Rokas, Zachariel, etc. equivalent questing gear
>no Seal of Space

Kim...?
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>>150711789
They do. Keep in mind your chara sheet doesn't update properly, it's very easy to see for yourself though
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>>150701959
Heels used to be common dress for men in the past.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117bbb.1a213a435561.153545.1f233f466175

What the hell do I pick for Rank 7 for Inquisitor?
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>>150710930
>Werewolf which will no doubt remove all of his useful skills for gimmick ones that are probably fine in PVE but useless in PVP
It's literally the other way around
If werewolf has boss status no CC would be able to stop druid from fucking you with hard hitting attack and knocback while his team keeps it alive with heal tiles.
It will probably be shit in PvE but in PvP that skill might be God Killer tier
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>1200+
>6 points for win
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>>150711787
pay imc 20 bucks
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>>150711609
It also breaks links, last I checked.

That may have changed since then, but I doubt it.
EQ is more of a get-the-fuck-out-of-being-mobbed attack.
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>>150711656
Do not lewd Elins. They are for cute.
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>>150711957
You could go 2nd diev for world tree and more carve or priest 1 for revive.
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>>150711957
Unless you want to gamble on Conviction having the same hidden synergy with the Inquisitor skill that it has with Smite, which is extremely unlikely in my opinion, Paladin has no synergy with Inquisitor from what we've seen. Absolutely zero. You'd be better off ditching those ranks and getting more support abilities instead.
Inquisitor seems very specialized for PvP, I'd probably do something like Cleric2 Diev3 Priest/Oracle PD Inquisitor
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>>150711609
It's bad if you don't understand when to use it.

Using it for positioning and cc purpose is still okay.
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>>150712208
Eh, fuck that. I'd rather not play at all if they're not going to do something about the shit state of Paladin.
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>lock down 3 people in psychic pressure
>retarded teammate comes along and knockbacks then all out of your range
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>>150711670
Well, someone told me last game to check once I was in game because he said his +2 skills did not apply. Then I posted an image as proof and he said that it was different because I took it pre-game.
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>>150712446
I think that was me....
What server?
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>>150711959
>Werewolf with bloodletting
Jesus Christ how horrifying
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rip cute
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how long do you think it'll take for us to get r8 in itos?
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>>150712570
why hasn't anybody war'd and destroyed their tower yet
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>>150712623
8 months
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>kabba2 and oracle3 are shit
>nothing synergizes with sadhus and paladins
>meme doctors even more OP
>daoshits look underwhelming

domo arigatou mr. kim
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>install zoomy
>see where the stupid catas are
>see where the stupid kamehame are
>see stupid enemies using ausrine/7xfold
>win game
Nice game tostards
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>>150712446
>Pull several things together
>Fucking cata uses his EQ-like shit to knock everything away
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>>150712640
old ass screenshot
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>pretty sure I'm going to hate this cleric reroll
>realize fade is effectively cloaking for the purposes of quests
>BUT YOU CAN FUCKING JUMP
>first 30 levels are complete painless and are completed in a single arena hour
>still #2 on 2v2 when it ends
This game is comfy as fuck tonight.
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>>150709783
>Complaints abound about it for the first week
>IMC does absofuckinglutely nothing about it
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>>150712623
Longer than the game will be alive. I'm leaving pretty soon, just tired of the trash balance, stupid bugs that last forever, and repetitive leveling system.

It's more fun to theorycraft characters than it is to actually play them, because if you try to do anything interesting, you'll realize it's not even close to decent because of a bug with a skill or poor scaling.
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Is there any way to get TP in game or do you have to spend money?
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>>150712770
i'll probably wait for a private server with 1000x rates so we can just fucking skip the weeks it takes to hit R8
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Describe this game in 4 (four) words or less
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>>150711852

PLAY THE GAME
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>>150712838
he he he he
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>>150712803
you get 5 TP a day for buying consumables

you can participate in events for small amounts of TP but you wont be able to buy anything decent

or you can participate in gvg and once a month get a chest full of TP except all the top guilds have locked that down
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>>150712701
>install zoomy
>i use mouse mode
>spells fail 100% time instead of 50% like usual
nice addon zoomytards
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what the actual fuck is with inquisitor? they gave a gigantic fuck mages to clerics? the pvp meta is already clerics/wizards only, this almost seems like a confirmation of intent in that direction.
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Database is recruiting new friends! We're currently very small and looking for new members, our only real requirement is that you browse /tosg/, which you obviously do if you see this! I am leaning towards a PVP-oriented guild in the future, but I am not planning on forcing anyone to do anything they do not wish to. Whisper Cattly for an invite!
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>>150712813
that has it's own problems though, as the game forces you to take forever to level because there's literally nothing to do at the end. the pvp is unbalanced trash, as is pve, and there's no point in grinding for anything after you finish leveling because the rewards are so shit
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>>150712956
>Inquisitor lays antimagic trap
>Kabbalist activates Revenge Seven
:^)
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>>150712838
requesting the"'good god thanks rance" picture
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>>150712930
>he's using mouse mode
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>>150712698
>Not liking the Jewtank
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>>150713026
do I get a free kiss from girl Cattly?
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>>150712838
dvine calm down please
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>>150712770
>tfw hype burst with korean patch, some people from friendlist and guild even came back
>they are already gone again
>even more people followed them becaue gamebreaking bugs, IMC skipping geography and some other classes showing up with their PvP times, shit balance and other reasons
I don't think anyone i know will still play by fall
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Do any of you faggots even play the game?
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Mystery reward today is 4 advanced abrasives 3900 xp each.
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>>150713179
I play the PvE part of it
Focusing on this game PvP would make me quit
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>>150713179
Nah, I just shitpost on here while playing better games.
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>>150713197
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>>150712274
Why do MMO devs hate paladins so much?
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>>150713260
But the PVP players seem like the cool, laid back ones. Karga, Cats, Rance, Katz, etc. PVE players are insufferable autists like Patsch and dvine.
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>>150713197
Oh good, I can pop my box.
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>>150713139
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wiz3 linker 2 necr3 the best?
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>>150713380
if JP penalty stays broken forever then yes
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>>150713327
I just can't get into this game PvP.
It's just trash and IMC doesn't even want me to do it in first place like and when i want because i don't live in NA.
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come queue 190
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>>150713380
You're gonna regret wiz3 necro3. Necro is becoming a summoner class and would benefit more from cryo3.
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>>150713083
What gender is your character?
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>>150713497
i dont think you can never regret wiz 3
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>>150713497
QUICK CAST LEVEL 15/100 FLESH CANNON
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>>150713179
i'm a professional bee farmer
>>150713327
>pedropan
>you
the list goes on about pvp retards. patsch got a higher rank than you'll ever get in 5v5 too.
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>>150712930
>Not PLAYING THE GAME enough to know the range of your spells
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>>150713557
a girl!
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>>150713647
my quickcast level 20 flesh cannon oneshot lolipan, you really dont need to invest that much to kill people in arena
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>>150713730
Only if you promise to gender change when oracle 3 comes out and kiss one of my boy characters, too. You can switch back after if you'd like.
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>>150713656
>implying I do any PVP except gvg
dvine pls
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SO WHtsa the PROGRESSIOnf or A KRIVIS 3 DRUID 2 Build NOW??
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>Spend more time theorycrafting than actually playing the game
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>>150713895
Daoist
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>>150712838
fun broken cashgrab crap
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>>150713895
Are you okay?
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>>150713895
Catshater anon! How are you? Been taking your meds? Krivis past 1 is bad.
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>>150713895
R8 MeDAlLiOn
mabbe
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>>150713916
its not a cashgrab though
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>>150713961
>Krivis past 1 is bad.
>Not going Cleric2Krivis3OracleKab in preparation for Daoist
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>>150713903
Well yeah, the only interesting part about this game is the class system. The rest is complete trash.
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Spit or swallow?
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>>150713961 Fuck OFF cocKSUCKER
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>>150713865
>pvptard gets btfo in tbl
>killing at dungeon entrance only pls
pls yourself. there's not much people who did more open world gvg than me. did you forget i sit outside while you afk camp in fedi/logout between ganking at dungeon entrance?
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>>150714084
>gvg
>on KlaiPVE
O I am laffin
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>>150714074
refer to
>>150714060
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>I can softlock the 145 dungeon by converting a monster
Goddammit imc.
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>>150714060
Always swallow
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>>150714148
The true PvE server is Fedimian because there are 2 PvP oriented guilds only and they wardec each other every 2 weeks
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>>150714268
We have gvg all the time in telsiai while lolitard cries nobody will war him on KlaiPVE
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>>150714148
>klaipve
>implying it wasn't just that retard pedropan too busy sucking off guild leaders instead of picking and finding fights
let me know about the location you camp open to world pvp 24/7 outside killing at dungeon entrance btw
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>>150714319
Are you going to ask the gm to server swap you? retard
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>>150714084
Calm down dvine

You get baited so easily it's not even funny anymore
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>>150714562
so you just kill people at dungeon entrance then. cool.
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>>150714680
What does this even mean lmao
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>>150700973
I hope Sex Change makes a dungeon you have to clear before you can swap genders. Like Item Awakening with the item world dungeon, but a "sex world" dungeon.
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>>150715027
This is some furcadia shit
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>>150715027
I hope it will be sex dungeon.
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Is there a working ui addon?
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>>150711656
I went to Tera's general once. All they did was post flat butts like that. how can they even play that game with those no-ass characters?
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>>150713497
>Wiz3Link2
>Regret
It's fucking futureproof, one hit of your skeleton hits all of those linked targets.
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>>150715252
Quick cast doesn't boost skeleton damage misinfo agent.
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>>150715027
how about i just lock you in my sex dungeon, fagboy?
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>>150715284
Oh shit, I forgot I'm on /tosg/.
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>>150714084
dvine I think he meant GBL, not open world GVG
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>farming for black old kepa skin
Suffering. 10 elet masks were faster.
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Did the fucking nerfed lanterns? Why am I getting shitty red socket archers?
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>>150715213

i have not a clue what ur talking about anon. tera booties dont lie
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i sucked my first dick yesterday, and i got fucked while he nibbled at my ear and made my balls and soft dick sway

idk if i really liked it or not though
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>>150715354
why would somebody on telsiai namedrop a bunch of people from klaip and have a grudge against me and patsch?:^)

was just wondering how far the retard would go.
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>>150715536
forgot to mention it was a tranny so its less gay
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How much suffering will I endure?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111777g.16233f516a7585.3f4f5a65.1525
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just recently downloaded this game. i have no idea how shit works but these are the 3 classes that interest me, fuck swordsman, any MMO i play they are never picked.

how the hell do classes and skills work in this game? what should i even aim for.
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>>150716008
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner
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>>150716008
Cute names anon.
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c
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>>150716182

but idk what skills to max other than some half assed video i seen on youtube which only stopped at rank 2 for each class.

>>150716271
thx fellow anon.
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>>150716271
>Outdated as fuck pastebin
>Literally recommends hunter3 for PvP
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>>150716271
I thought we got rid of this misinfo trove?
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>>150716487

so dont follow that list?
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>>150716487
but hunter is good for pvp
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>>150716729
Hunter 2 is good for PVP. Hunter 3 is good for nothing.
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>>150713461
What's broken?
>>
uhh, is this good then?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111444b.1a2a3a456a.1f3f4f.152535
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Do instance reset vouchers also reset Party Quests?
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The korean patch hype ended quickly
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>>150717060
no
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>>150717516
meanwhile on Orsha
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I bought this game during the beta and never got to play it because of server issues, and the person I was going to play with has disappeared from Discord and Steam ;_;.

Does Tree of Savior have anything to offer in terms of playing solo?
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>>150717870
Depends on your class and if you find a guild. Playing mmo's solo defeats the whole purpose.
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>>150717870
I-I will play with you!
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>>150717971
>>150717870

play with me too, on kaleido
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>>150716748
>growling is bad
>7 sec retrieve to pull clerics out of safety zone in tbl is bad
>full uptime on snatching for flying bosses is bad
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What the hell was this 300 mb update? What was in it?
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>Disenchant
Man, why do they keep going with this retarded "all or nothing" design. It's like whoever comes up with game mechanics has never played an mmo in his life.
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>>150718413
t. "I've only played WoW"-san
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>>150716748
and if it'll be Hunt2ScoutFalc2? or Hunt2RogueFalc2?
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>>150718680
Blizzard made a great effort at making WoW balanced and fair in both pvp and pve.

ToS is just random things thrown in. The game isn't made by gamers or game designers.
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>>150717516
>>150717697
Spreading the population between 6 servers was a terrible move
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>>150718404
At least the gear invisibility fix
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>>150718404
They made us redownload all patches from July 16 to now.
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>>150718812
>The game isn't made by gamers or game designers.
Good. That's why we can get originality. It might not be good all the time but if they throw enough stuff out there maybe something will stick for future mmorpgs.
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>inquisitor isn't fully melee based

rip in pieces, i'll turn my memepally into it regardless i guess, not like i have much other choice
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>>150719061
Paladin doesn't even work with Inquisitor
>>150718987
Not when it's IMCompetence throwing random shit
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>>150718987
>It might not be good all the time but if they throw enough stuff out there maybe something will stick for future mmorpgs.
This is a prime example of how you don't balance a game.
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>>150718987
I'd rather have fun than accidental "originality".
Game design isn't just a meme. You need to be good at it, just like any kind of designer or engineer.
Look what's good about this game: art and music, because these are made by skilled artists and musicians. And now look at game mechanics and execution (programming, bugs, etc..).
>>
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=573

Official translations are up.
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>>150719184
>Paladin doesn't even work with Inquisitor
Kind of fits well for all that anti-magic stuff (and witch-hunter roleplaying purposes).
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>>150719184
can spread conviction and smite with wheel, an extra melee hit skill, damage buff based off matk from your blunt weapon

it's okay, literally nothing else to choose that's the main thing

need to see if the inquisition skills works off your own or enemies matk for the bonus damage i don't trust the "official" translations much
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I had an epiphany.

Bokor train is a physical melee attack. Inquisitor wheel spreads melee attacks in an area.

>plop down wheel
>choo-choo motherfucker
>damage everywhere

Question becomes, what to use as my other classes. Can I heal my zombies? How much HP do they have? If my plan is to rely on zombie train, would going Priest2 to keep my zombies healed a good idea?

Does Fade stay active during zombie train? Can I cast Fade and get 20-30 seconds of uninterrupted choo-choo going? Can I cast Guardian Saint on my zombies? Does Guardian Saint prevent the train from stopping?
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>>150719418
The wheel is only going to spread auto attacks and I'm willing to bet only the first line of them.
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>>150719563
we literally don't know stop spouting bullshit
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>>150719231
>Pear of Anguish
I liked the fan translation"Birds of Despair" more
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Will Mergen come with a free rabbit to chase similar to the Wugushi hat?
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>>150719231
>the first comment isn't :"Woooo amazing, such cool classes design :)" but:"Ok, thats nice. Fix ALL FUCKING GAMEBREAKING BUGS FIRST"
hehehe
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>Was afraid of either going or not Krivis
>Zalciai and Daino are both scrollable meaning I have no reason to since these were the reason I was taking them
>R8 revealed to have nothing that supports chapmeme
>Only PD or Kabba has anything interesting

Unless I go something chap -> kriv -> cleric -> oracle
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>dps clerics are now better than dps wizards
time to reroll into a linkerchronocuck...
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>>150720146
And people are still bitching about quick cast.
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>>150720146
Why you think so?
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>>150720312
Did you not see 20k per tick zaibas?
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>>150720312
previews show big umber boom boom while warlock preview show no big number.... big number missing :-( wtf i hate wiz now
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>>150720026
>not going krivis 3 druid 2 daoshi for maximum dps
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>>150720312
People somehow don't comprehend that we're getting 5 more levels on pixel of agony and theurge.
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>>150720430
That's literally nothing, we'll still rely on frost cloud for aoe damage.
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>>150720392
>DT with 6 ticks
>perma uptime invocation
>high quality evil spirit
>DT infused AA

Non warlock will never understand how imbalanced these shit is.
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>>150720430
>>150720530
>cast dark theurge
>take 100k damage
lmao

https://treeofsavior.com/img2/news/developersblog/20160805/21_db_8rc_inquisitor3.gif
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>>150720384
>>150720392
Kek.
You have to watch out Swordies with Inquisitor and Dragoon2 bitches not meme talisman and zaibas
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>>150720629
>thinking the birbs damage is somehow based on the spell being cast
>and that it isn't just a flat value, and when the trap triggers that flat value is tripled
There's literally no reason to think this.
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>>150720510
got u covered famiglia ;^)

https://treeofsavior.com/img2/news/developersblog/20160805/22_db_8rc_inquisitor4.gif
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>>150720706
Well it's 20k per trap on that gif.
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>>150720750
Before PVP reduction. On level 210 mobs as a r8 class. I'm not saying it's going to suck, I'm saying to keep your feet on the ground.
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>>150720706
The trap dealt 19k*5 from a mob using a magic auto attack you retard.

>>150720827
Oooh 50% reduction, now I'll only need 45k hp to survive that single spell!
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>>150720870
>what is level difference
This is low tier bait.
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>>150712838
Everything broken. That's normal.
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>>150720910
Players can only deal 100% damage at most you retard. The level difference only works against players. A level 280 hitting a level 1 monster will do 100% damage, not 10000% like a level 1 going against a 280 mob. Dumb shit.
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>>150720991
>i have literally no idea and am just typing whatever
nice dude you're right
>>
WHAT'S THIS I HEAR ABOUT ZAIBAS R8 BUFFS
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>>150721012
He's right about how there's no damage bonus when attacking low level mobs.
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>>150721012
Go hit a hanaming with an auto attack and show me your 10k damage then. I'll wait :^)
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>>150719231
so merkabah will reduce the movement speed of enemies, huh
Kinda nice DievKabba + Chrono = enemies will not move at all
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>>150703727
Full CON about 50 Dex to not miss too much on hybrid str:Dex types.
You are supposed to be an annoying knockdown everything type of tank that is hard to kill.
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>>150721094
Sinergy with one of the Taoist skills
>The "Storm Calling " will call thunder and rain on the spot where the Charm was.Players will be able to amplify the damage of electric property skills in the area such as the "Zaibas" skill.
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>>150721160
>It will also receive an attribute that will reduce the movement speed of enemies allowing it to become a tank in party play.
Ayo hol up hol up. So clerics are now tanks and dps on top of being support, and swordies are also dps, while wizards are now supports?
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Which guilds in the OP are about to start dying or already in the process?
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>>150721329
Wizards being supports is literally the Ragnarok Online way.
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>>150721423
r8 clerics are basically RO wizards at this point
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>>150721094
>>150721263
Is there even any other good Lightning spell in the game? This class looks very interesting, I may finally make a Cleric.
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>>150721589
There are literally 2 lightning spells in the game, and zaibas is the better one.
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>>150721589
I meant besides ZAIBAS.
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>>150721674
electroCute
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>>150721674
ElectroCUTE
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>>150720530
What is DT infused AA?
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>>150721589
Man this was such a good opportunity to give wizards a LIGHTNING class. Shame.
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>>150721973
>electromancer went to clerics
seriously what the fuck IMC
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>>150722040
Zaibas is also cheap as fyck to attri
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>>150722040
the power of the thunder GOD
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So out of all the R8 classes which do you guys reckon will be the most OP?

My bets on for pve.
Mergen, warlock, doppel, druids, SR

Pvp
Plagues, lancers, warlocks, inquisitors

I reckon the most lacklustre are going to be. Musket, sage, enchanter, oracle, hacks and murmillo although everything does seem quite interesting at the moment.
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>>150721175
appreciate it anon

how about the skill distribution, i currently only have 1 on targe smash and 7 unsued
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>>150722641
Wiz 3 Pyro 3 Linker 1 Sage will be the most OP.
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>>150721992
FUCK I NEED THIS HAIR KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>150722641
>Templar C2

It's pretty much what I expected but the reality still hurts.
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>>150722641

I coughed blood when I saw Templar 2. Hoping for the best for Templar 3 and maybe it'll pay off in a hidden R10 class requiring Templar 3.
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>>150722898
Don't worry, r10 will have the OP secret class "master" which requires templar3.
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>>150721526
Time to build the wiz3link2Necro2(or link1thaum2necro2) support I always wanted! Because links + decays
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So how was the cleric reveal? I can't check it on my phone
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>>150723035
I don't need or want retarded secret classes with requirements that kill build diversity. I want Templar to have some sort of offensive capabilities, so that I am not deadweight in parties.
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>>150723308
Amazing
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>>150723335
Templar2 has guildy buffs though. Maybe you should party with your guildmates faggot.
>>
SO THEY DID IT

THEY KILLED DPS WIZARDS
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>>150723537
Literally nothing useable in a grind environment. At best an inferior Meltistis that we aren't yet sure how it works.
>>
late to thread, idgaf

>>150706526
ty bruh, have an upvote !
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>>150716748
Hunter3 is good for solo farming.

>>150718051
>>7 sec retrieve to pull clerics out of safety zone in tbl is bad
Use the Hounding glitch and you only need a second to accomplish that.
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>>150703339
>reddiscord shit talks people behind their backs
>bring this shit talking into the open
>now I'm the asshole

Maybe if you reddit faggots weren't always shit talking your "friends" this wouldn't happen.
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>>150703934
That is L I T E R A L L Y happening here though?
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>>150723720
The balance is changing all the time. Might as well play what you want.
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>>150724134
I WANTED TO PLAY BRAINLESS AOE WIZARD DAMMIT
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>>150724325
You can still do that. Elementalists and warlocks weren't nerfed in any way.
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>>150724453
>>150714074
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>>150723481
Please, tell me a bit more about it, from what I've seen here taoist gets some synergy with Krivis and druid gets stone carving? Also sex change for orc
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>>150724684
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=573
Cba to explain. Just read that later.
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Did the add-ons that broke on the last patch get fixed yet? Is it safe to reinstall them?
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>vedas plateau
>septni glen
jesus christ, are these maps really that good for bots that there needs to be 10+ bots on a single channel?
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>>150725779
>addons being safe ever
>when imc constantly breaks their own game even without addons being installed
Yea naw.
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PD only counter are other PD.
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>>150718404
For me it broke steam, telling me that my hdd is faulty(literally bought 2 weeks ago). I let steam check the integrity and it redownloaded files.
>>
Guys is there any reason at all not to charge back silver sellers like mmotank?
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>>150726606
Worst they can do is try to get you banned by reporting your RMT scum activities.
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>tfw the fan translations were better than the official ones
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>>150726606
RMT sites have a network, if you chargeback on one, you can't ever rmt again on any of the other major sites.

If you're going to charge back, make sure to charge back small enough that theres no issues but large enough you don't need to rmt again
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>Cafrisun's new respawn timer
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>>150713321
>>150712274
>>150712208
High chance of hidden synergy I think.

Inquisitor is basically a big crusader against witches/magic users.
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There are people IN THIS VERY THREAD who have RMT'd in this game and still cannot beat a bunch of normies on voicechat in the only PVP format that actually matters.
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>>150727536
>Tree of Savior
>PvP
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>>150727536
>There are people IN THIS VERY THREAD who have RMT'd and complains about bots and market restrictions.
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>>150725010
>NO
>FUCKING
>SHEPHERD
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
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>>150727106
WHat is it?
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>>150727752
30 minutes
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>>150727816
That is still ok. At least it doesn't spawn on random locations hand has a drop chance of <00,00001% like the goat thing in tenet garden.
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>>150727658
pretty sure it was rank 9 or unless I'm misremembering some random speculation
>>
Which should I main?

A2 QS3 Falconer 3
or
A2 QS3 Falconer 1 Musketeer 2
or
Wiz 3 Linker 3 FF 2
or
Wiz 3 Kino 3 Cryo 1 Runecaster
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>>150727967
Well fuck me guess I go 2nd priest o top of pd3 cleric3.
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>>150727969
>A2 QS3 Falconer 3
I'm planning on giving this a try. Don't do it. I want to be a special snowflake.
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>>150727969
>play a class with circling and no good aoe skills
lmao
>he fell for the musket turrent meme
lmao
>wiz 3 linker 3
hope you have a guild to carry you as even with non-stop pardoner buffs you will be suffering
>wiz3 kino 3 cyro1 runecaster
still suffering but less so than above
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>>150727969
>A2 QS3 Falconer 3
solid
>A2 QS3 Falconer 1 Musketeer 2
dont QS3 into musket, running shots damage doesnt stay active when you switch weapons and the weapon switch lag makes it nearly unplayable regardless
>Wiz 3 Linker 3 FF 2
kek @ featherfoot, also fuck linker 3 unless youre going with a meme stat to spread around
>Wiz 3 Kino 3 Cryo 1 Runecaster
only if you have friends to play with
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Well then
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>It will also receive an attribute that will reduce the movement speed of enemies allowing it to become a tank in party play.

Why won't they hire english PR guys, at the very fucking least?
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>>150727969
>>150728403
We don't know how falconer 3 will interact with QS3 other than a short 2 sec gif. For all you know they might change it before the rank 8 update even arrives.
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>>150727917
Spearman > Cafrisun
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>>150728664
You mean english translators?
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Is this a decent awakening?
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>>150728883
no, could be worse
Acceptable
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>>150728883
Its better than matt, physatt or mamp at least.

The best awakenings are the crit rate 10+/30+ elemental,
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>>150728972
>30+ elemental
You can get 30+ elemental on an ilvl 68 item?
>>
What's the point of elements dance if glass bracelet is better in nearly any situation?
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>>150729092
Elements Dance helps agaist mobs auto attacks
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>>150727969
I don't see the point in taking Musk together with QS3. With Didel and a RS Gem, which you need to make QS any good, there is pretty much zero downtime to even use your Musket skills. I think Falconer would synergize a lot better since apparently it just does its own thing and attacks without you having to do anything at C3. You won't really have any AoE aside from Circling+Multishot but that's QS life in general, Circling alone will make you decent enough in party play to get into groups, that new Falconer skill will probably help with that quite a bit too.
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>>150728159
>turrent
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>>150729092
for physical if you're not already taking 1s
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>>150706797
what did you take besides necro2?
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The whole thing of classes getting scaling spells start to also scale with their skill level is making me want them to add a re-class potion.

Who am I kidding, they are going to screw 90% of the builds all the time and force people to reroll or quit the game. There is really no content so re-rolling is basically the endgame.
>>
>>150729807
Most of the scaling buffs aren't even worth it, they're only good for specific builds that used to be shit.
E.g. spr priest 3 used to be worthless outside gvg but now its got spr scaling blessing so its around the same level as int clerics which used to be all the rage
>>
>>150729807
This is what happens when you have a class ranking system that releases one rank at a time.
The end game rank you picked now could have a totally fucked up circle 2 that doesn't fit into your build or the end game rank that is totally shit and you skipped could have a circle 2 that is exactly what you needed in your build.
This fucked up cycle will go on forever until IMC decides to revamp the entire class ranking system or they release THE final rank, which neither will happen.
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>>150729941
>new update changes the balance of the game
are you this new to mmos?
change is what keeps mmos alive
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>>150730031
No one is talking about balance you idiot. This is about class synergy and builds. You can't plan your build properly because you don't know what kind of skill and effects will come out next.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c31.1a213a435561.1e213f42516a91a1.152545.152535

Thoughts?

R8 will be suicide because nothing fits, but I'm already at Chaplain and I don't want to get altism.
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>no r8 cleric mounted class
>nothing for chaplains
>only PD2 is decent

I'm done with this game.
Going to try Albion now.
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>>150730231
Could go Inquisitor and prey that the wheel works with multi-line autos.
I'd just make a new character though, Chaplain is pretty much equivalent to wasting an entire rank. You're only at R5 so it's not like you wasted too much time
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>>150730281
R9 will have Troubadour!

Also the guy who had the name "Furfag" or something that went Druid C2 was right, now he can fulfill his dream going C3 and becoming a wolf.
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>>150728403
>>A2 QS3 Falconer 3
>solid
>>A2 QS3 Falconer 1 Musketeer 2
>dont QS3 into musket, running shots damage doesnt stay active when you switch weapons and the weapon switch lag makes it nearly unplayable regardless

What about cannon? Not same anon.
>>
>>150730031
>>150730179
This is exactly what's happening with oracle 3. People who went oracle 2 are now on suicide watch cause they betted on oracle 3 not being shit.
Now their build is all but fucked and if they decide to pick another rank 8 class they'll have a useless oracle 2 wasting a rank.
They have no choice but to go oracle 3 or end up being gudbuild xx/oracle 2/xx.
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>5 hours later and not a single lizard amber
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>>150730696
Its 1% drop rate, you're either really unlucky or lying
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>>150730482
>inb4 werewolf is only last 10 seconds on a 100 second cd

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=574
>Currently the spectator mode in Team Battle League and Guild Battle matches works by allowing anyone to watch them in real-time, a feature which, some players have pointed out to us, can be used to “spy” on the opposing team’s constitution and strategy. We understand the implications this brings to the competition, so we want to consider developing alternatives to the real-time spectator. For example, a transmission with a short delay (e.g. 1 minute) that would still allow players to spectate the combat, but minimize the possibility of an unfair advantage.
How did they not realise this? Practically every fucking game that has any pvp with spectator mode has a delay for obvious fucking reasons. Well not that anyone gives a shit about ghosting tos minigames since the balance is all but fucked.
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>>150730764
The first one. I'm doing a circle in the bottom right corner of the map and CC'ing after I kill them. Nothing.
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>>150730825
They are going to completely break everything if they try to implement a delay. It will be atrocious.
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>>150730836
Are you even killing the right lizard?
I got all 12 of my ambers in 5 hours so I don't see how you havn't even got 1
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>>150730502
cannon works, as it sits in your secondary slot and doesnt require switching; and better yet will benefit more from circling, though other builds are usually more common with cannoneers.

that said, im no expert on cannon synergy builds, but i can at least confirm it would be better than falcon>musket.
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=574
>When are we going to get momentary invincibility after becoming incapable of combat during Guild Battles?
>We expect to add this patch to Steam as well when it’s ready
Why didn't they just port the whole fucking thing from the korean version directly? What the fuck was the point of the patch respository merge if you're going to decide the patches up anyways?
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>>150730942
http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/57019/

I am killing the right monster, yes.
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>>150730984
Ktos is even more buggy than itos, they're trying to port over stuff whilst breaking as little as possible in the process
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>>150728159
>play a class with circling and no good aoe skills
Look at the R8 reveal, retard.
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How long does it take to hunt Venier? whats its dpk?
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>>150730694
>40% damage in one hit
>more aoe invincibility shit
>more ranks on the already OP shit you have

like seriously? did people pick oracle thinking they would get frostclout or something? from the very begining you can see it's a utility/defensive class with some farming shit

If anything I'd be mad the actual farming skill was given to kaba 2 instead of oracle, but I think right when you take circle 1 of oracle you are aware they're not going to get any combat skills.

C2 needs some love, but I don't see why would you complain about c3. If you don't really like it, depending on your stats you can easily do with daoshit for damage, or if you're SPR just complete your build with some support class you were missing like krivis or something.
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>>150731086
Go look at the kill rankings, thats the norm for getting venier (around 2000 or so).
Coupled with its spawn rate, its faster to just buy it from the market
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What would you name your Oracle 3 sex-change shop?
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>Be QS1 Sapper2
>Be lvl 90
>enter lvl 90 Dungeon
>Get 2nd in DPS in the first run
>Get 1st in DPS in the second run

I don't understand. Does broom trap hit the flying boss? I know it shouldn't but I was able to hit a flying boss in the royal mausoleum. I forgot what floor, probably the one eyed guy dinoptic or someone else.
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>>150730502
Builds with QS+Cannon:
QS3 A2 Scout1 Cannon2
QS3 Wugu2 Cannon2
QS3 A2 Falcon1 Cannon2
QS3 A3 Cannon2 (?)

Cannon Builds w/o QS:
A2 Sapper2 Wugu2 Cannon2
A2 Hunter3 Scout1 Cannon2 (?)
A3 Scout3 Cannon2 (?)

anything with (?) is not a build i have seen someone use in-game

don't take QS if you don't know how to get didel or rs gem
don't take falcon if you don't know which skills you want to use circling with
don't take musket if you're not going exclusively for scout snipe in pvp situations and have no idea about weapon swapping
don't take cannon if you want to make a fletcher or mergen
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>>150731084
Not him but for all you know aiming could last only 10 secs on a 100 sec cd because IMC BALANSE.
I would not plan any builds based on skill synergies until properly skill details come out.
If you want to make a build to prepare for rank 8 then do it based on the playstyle you want that won't be affected by how the skills actually work, that way you won't need to reroll should the rank 8 skills not work the way you think they will.
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>>150731086
I got 2 in 500 and 300 respectively. (Different times)
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>>150731341
doesn't detonate trap + 2 handed bows 50% bonus damage utterly rape anything flying?
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>>150731341
>Does broom trap hit the flying boss?
Yes, bosses are hit by ground aoes even if they are flying.
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>>150730694
Oracle 3 looks fine. The HP reduction skill is strong as fuck for bossing and is guaranteed to always stay relevant. If anything it's Oracle 2 that's complete garbage and should get changed.
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>>150706986
Thought you had better taste than that
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>>150731462
Fuck off Yatagarasu from FOE/Discord
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Seriously man, fuck this game. It's been 5 fucking hours and hundreds of Upents and I can't get a single Amber. Did they change the fucking monster that drops it? This is so fucking bullshit, I'm tired of getting stupid fucking barks.

I'm fucking mad.
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>>150731384
It's little to do with aiming. You should try reading about the circling attribute.
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>>150731285
"Thanks IMC, for one time purchase Shop that does not change costume hairs, cash shop costumes and probably barely anybody really care enough to pay for it"

I'd rather have a fortune telling shop. You purchase stuff and the oracle say something like "Today, where the demons lay imprisoned, you will find fortune/a challenge/mastery." and it gives a bonus on that map or whatever.

Probably goign to be used for Fortune Teller but fuck you it would be better than this shit, I don't even know anyone aside few people who got shittier costumes as girls that want to turn into boys.
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>>150731567
what, go to the long branched trees in goddess ancient garden. you'll get like 300 in 5 hours
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>>150731106
I don't mean to say it's bad, the point I was trying to make is people are forced to make decisions for their rank 6/7 classes without any info for future rank classes so it ends up being a gamble. Trying to be futureproof with the way this class ranking system is set up is almost impossible because of how you have to gamble on your higher rank choices.
It might've been better if IMC gave a summary of the overall workings of the new classes so you can sort of expect what kind of circle 2/3 you're going to get instead of blindly getting a rank 7 class hoping it's circle 2/3 will fit your build.
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>>150731736
Different amber.
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>>150731341
>QS1 Sapper2
Why would you even do this?
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>>150731567
Go look at the kill rankings, you have nothing at all to complain about yet.
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>>150731567
Cata rapier is better than Venier anyway.
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>>150731794
>>150731106
I don't think this is really a problem. Make your builds to be good right now and you won't get fucked by future additions. There is zero reason to gamble with Oracle 2 unless you just dream of being playing an Oracle in which case min/maxing is the least of your intentions. There will always be better builds in the future, that's just the reality of games like this, but you won't fuck your current ones over and be stuck in a situation like Oracles right now.

>>150731826
Amber = Amber. If you ask shit like that you should be specific.
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>>150732000
The highest is 2044 and I'm at 800 and I'm at zero.

Yeah I have every right to bitch.
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>>150731573
>5% chance per attribute level, which seems highly likely to max out at level5 for a 25% chance
>on a 10 sec duration 35 sec cd skill
You're not seriously planning on relying on this entirely for your build are you?
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>>150730696
>you don't get one for the rest of the day either
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I'm going to be a girl!
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>>150732146
Just buy it with shout chat + market then.
They're like what? 100-200k each?
Whats the big deal?
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>>150732067
Considering we're talking about Upents, it's pretty obvious what Amber it is.
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>>150732067
>Make your builds to be good right now and you won't get fucked by future additions
That's the thing. It may be good now but when the later ranks come out your build may have been better skipping or taking a different class for your current last rank.
You're going to be seeing alot of circle 1/circle 1/circle 1 for ranks 8/9/10 should we ever get there or they'll just reroll their character entirely.
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>>150732309
You don't think I've been doing that? Market has nothing and I've wasted 15 Megaphones already. I want this to be fucking over.
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>>150730281
>>only PD2 is decent
explain
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>>150732440
Your build will still be serviceable however, unlike the guy who took Oracle2 as a gamble and got completely fucked. Anyways, like 90% of this game is making new characters and builds, not like it's a big deal

>>150732325
Considering he asked if he is even fighting the right mob, no, not at all
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>>150731567
When I farmed for lizard ambers it took me like a whole day just to get 1.
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>>150732448
What server is this? If its varena than I'll apologize that theres none in market because I buy them as soon as they come.
My first venier ended up stuck at +9 so making my second one.
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>>150731378
Thank you based anon!
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>>150732686
>Anyways, like 90% of this game is making new characters and builds, not like it's a big deal
And that's the entire problem with it. The game was designed to be character rerolls/new characters except leveling through 1-280 is a fucking boring experience.
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Anyone got a list of the stat points you miss by skipping orsha side? I want to eventually go over there and collect them all.
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Is this a good trade anons?

My Magi Two handed sword for Venier? or 5kg dumbell?
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>>150733073
You miss 3 points from the rainforest arc.
Enjoy suffering walking through countless maps to get there
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>>150732703
Yeah fuck this. Venier isn't worth all this bullshit, I'm just going to use my Cata.
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Spr cleric reporting in for suicide watch
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>>150733257
Just get another rapier. You don't NEED vernier.
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>>150733257
Make friends with an oracle and have them help you farm them.

Bring a thaum or a doppel too, to speed it up
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>>150733257
Venier far exceeds catacombs rapier in damage even if you are full dex. Not even the aoe ratio make up for how much better venier is.

Venier is worth every bit of bullshit people go through to get one, its just that most give up on it due to how hard it is.
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>>150731567
Bring a thaum.
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Is it possible to make a male character and not look like a fuccboi?
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>>150733257
Is it really that hard to farm for venier?
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>>150733496
>14 fossilized lizard amber in 273 kills
lmao, I wonder if the anon who spent hours killing 800 of them is committing soduku yet
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>>150733496
>Bring a thaum that isn't pedro
Fixed that for you, cause you know, the guy doesn't bother to help anyone do anything unless you give him 30 mil, ops just joking :^)
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>>150733640
The recipe is like a 1 in 2000. It uses 3 mithrils on top of it and the ambers are a 1% drop from a sparse elite mob and you need 12 of them.
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>>150733640
Venier recipe is near impossible to farm for due to spawn rates and high as fuck dpk.
Most people just buy it from the market where the bot sells it for a triffling 2mil.
Mithril is easily buyable, no issues there.
Fossilized lizard amber will make most fencers give up on venier due to 1% drop rate from low as fuck spawn
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>farming lizard ambers
>not buying them all for less than 2mil
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>>150733806
>perpetuating the DPK meme
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>>150733364
>suicide watch
>doesnt know about the wheel

Chaps getting that wheel turn into mass aoe Thwackings
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>>150733917
>being able to purchase lizard ambers
feel free to show your market with all those lizard ambers
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>>150733917
If I could have bought them I would have.
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what are the most kosher addons atm? I dropped the game at 230 a few months ago.
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>>150733917
>>150733989
Lizardman Ambers are capped at 130k on the market now, no one is farming and selling them there because it's not profitable anymore.
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>>150733717
kysserino dvine
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>>150733989
Should've got them when you could. This is what you get for rolling a class over 4 months after launch.
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>>150733938
Does wheel scale with spr or what?
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>>150733806
Farming for Venier recipe isn't that bad. The entire left pathway is just spiders so while not super abundant, there's a fair bit.

The hardest part about the recipe is farming there while it's empty so people don't ruin your DPK and steal your recipe (If it really is DPK).

The lizard ambers are just bullshit though.
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>tfw almost fencer and want to farm venier but not sure anymore
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Seeing a dive in a dungeon made me interested in one. Do they need 2-3 circles to become good? Is the 2nd circle worth it at all?
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>>150731378
Would it be ok to go Archer2ranger1wugu2scout1cannon?
Or does the lack of falconer there dick me over?
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>>150731423
Yes it does. Especially if you have a priest that has heal tiles under the boss.
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>>150734171
Yeah fuck us for daring to level another character, in fact they shouldn't even let us pick Fencer at rank 6 anymore just for being late!

Moron.
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>>150734437
Diev C1, 2, and 3 are all amazing. It's one of the most well rounded and versatile classes the Cleric tree has, you can fit it into nearly any build and be well off
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>>150734580
>he thought the game was alt friendly
ehehehehehehe
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>>150734580
>being this mad about not planning all your future characters beforehand
lmao, its also not like its the end of the world
Are you going to quit just because you don't have double glad bands? Are you going to quit just because you don't have a max peta? Its the same logic here.
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>>150731926
Utility when soloing.
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>>150731794
>>150732067
Ok I get it, I mean I left my paladin stationed right at r7 change because I couldn't figure out what I wanted until the r8 reveal, and even now it feels hard to choose a r7 without knowing exact numbers on r8 abilities.

But I've come to accept you need to make seasonal characters, like choose a solid build for the current content, and if the next tier compliments it, great. Once you're capped and geared up, if you're happy you can go and invest on attributes, if you think the build isn't so hot or fun level an alt or two on the side and get em to r5 or something, that way you can easily jump into the new fotm in less than a month.

If anything I'd say the best thing is to rush money makers (squire, pardoner, alche, now oracle maybe) and get your team level as high as possible with those chars and pets, so rerolling will feel less painful and you can transition into new tiers of content more easily.

I know a lot of people don't want to roll alts or feel their build is underpowered because they don't meet the new meta, but other than that all you can do is stop playing until the actual content comes, and some koreans min max that shit so you can copy it.
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>>150734746
I do have double glad bands and a max peta though.
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>>150734538
Its fine. Your wugu stuff is your main source of dps, cannon is just there to provide some burst damage
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>>150734171
>rolling a class that needs to more money investment than other classes as your first char
Nah, that's just stupid.
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>>150734597
Guess I go 2 then. Does it need spr and int or only one stat?
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>>150733938
Does multi hit from extra damage lines really spin the wheel? I assume it will work the same as icewall.
I'm a chappu(pls no bully) trying to decide on my R7. If the wheel does go Initial D with damage lines what would be the best to take?
Also daoshi costume is really tempting. Maybe I'll just roll another cleric for krivis 3.

>>150734561
Is it really damage per square?
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>>150734763
>If anything I'd say the best thing is to rush money makers (squire, pardoner, alche, now oracle maybe)
Nah, those classes make barely any money at all.
You are better off making something that can solo well and efficiently, like an Ele or SR and then branching out from there. Both of those are also very futureproof in that even when R8 and 9 come out they will still be relevant and give you a solid base to build from due to their good mobbing capabilities.
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>>150734981
Well at least you can use all the money you must have saved so far playing a low investment class to buy your Venie--oh, right...
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>>150734186
For (you)
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>>150734538
most cannons do NOT have falcon because Circling is simply not useful outside of ridiculous 20+ packs or against many Large sized monsters
Cannon works even better with Joint Penalty, and with Enchanter being able to scroll JP soon there's more reason not to take Falcon
i don't have experience with wugu, but it seems like you want to take ranger 1 to spread poison here?
i don't know the effectiveness of ranger1 with wugu, but you can try it
scout1 is a useful choice
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I am a full Hikki NEET and need something to do.

How much do I need to grind to pvp?
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>>150735329
You need specific builds like sword3cata3 or diev3oraclepd

Only really around 230 levels of quest grinding so not THAT bad
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>>150735329
No grind at all
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>>150735182
I could buy a Venier straight out easily though but I don't want to pay a premium when I shouldn't have to. It's the principle of the matter. I don't care if you have a Venier or not because this is a video game. I'm not going to waste anymore time on it though.
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>>150735284
Most used to take sapper 2 for broom to spread the person though I don't see why a good cannon shot after applying poison wouldn't work.
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>>150735217
>botting upents out of all the mobs you can bot
why?
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SR should be mostly STR, or mostly DEX?
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>>150735329

~150 hours to get at least r7, more if you wanna farm up your attributes / items
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>>150735638
1:1
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>>150735638
1:1 or softcap dex and rest str
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>>150735329
The grind in this game is very light. You need shitloads of silver to get your character as strong as it can be, but being fairly well off and staying relevant is casual as fuck.
I would go look at other games though, this one really isn't worth the time. The whole game is terribly broken and there is quite frankly nothing to really do, even with the best PC money can build you you'd still not be able to keep decent FPS. PvP oftentimes simply comes down to mashing your CC while the game chugs along at 2FPS and praying that the servers recognized your input before the enemies, it's terribly unfun. The PvE endgame is hunting the same 5 world bosses over and over and Earth Tower, which is a terribly uninspired raid that reuses the same 3 mechanics over and over for 20 floors that you can attempt twice a day.
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>>150735132
Yes. By yourself you can detonate your 2 stockades, unfortunately you can't detonate your pavise, caltrops, punji, claymore, broom trap or collar bomb. But max is 4 hits to a single target.
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>>150730942
>12 of my ambers in 5 hours

Kek.

Spotted the real liar.
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>>150735990
lizard ambers are rng, not dpk, its completely possible to get 12 in 5 hours, unlikely but possible
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>>150719224
>>150719184
>>150719209
>>150718812
The art is the worst part of this game and has the ugliest character portraits I've seen in an MMORPG. The models are pretty low quality too, to be new and small and still fucking lag everything. The music? A third of it is complete shit techno and another third is only liked because "muh RO band".

The good thing about this game are the class and skill interactions and willingness to put out wacky skills even if they are "unbalanced" (which is a word I hate since "balanced" tends to devolve to "everything plays the same" but is meant "nerf everything I don't play")

People who want to play a game like WoW, should play WoW, people who want to play RO should go play RO. People being bored of both but ultimately just wanting to play WoW and RO is the reason the game is in this state, since they kept complaining to IMC and IMC was dumb enough to listen. It's time someone at least tried to do something different. If it fails, so be it, but there are dozens of copycat MMOs out there to play.
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>use Change until an ET mob pops out
>use C2 Kabbalist skill to clone a whole bunch of them
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>>150736556
Perfect anti botting measure
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>>150735990
Not him but >>150733496
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>>150736556
Shepard coming at R9 is too little too late from the sounds of things.
Cleric2/Krivis/Paladin3/Oracle/Kabba2 for R9 will be the ultimate pet Cleric.
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>>150736556
ET mobs drop good loot?
isn't the loot from cubes alone?

also you can't clone clones, so you would need to restart the changing all over again
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>>150736556
Monster duplication is random and knowing IMC the cloned mob duration will be a few seconds
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>>150735990
Play the game.
1 hour 18 minutes for 4 amber.
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>>150736790
>ET mobs drop good loot?
Literally nothing.
0 exp 0 silver 0 everything.
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>>150736790
ET mobs hit hard as fuck and can potentially one shot people when spawned in areas that are not ET.
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Are hunters decently good in pvp?
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>>150737159
what's the best way to achieve this?
low level change, or high as possible level change?
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>>150737241
Only small scale PvP.
In GvG there's little you can do other than defending your tower against backdoor attempts.
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>>150737307
Makes no difference.
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>>150737307
Doesn't really matter, it's because of their high base stats, but since level of Changed mobs is random and can go either way lower skill level is probably better.
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>>150734386
Ask Capyba to farm it
100% drop rate in 50 kills
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is dvine a bot?
I dont mean like a gold farming bot but an actual attempt at an AI, like Cleverbot, that responds to messages based on conditional input. I'm really concerned that the real dvine was taken and replaced by this insane social experiment. AFKing at bees and using a potion on cooldown is something a computer can handle easily. And then it just monitors the thread for keywords like dvine, necromancer, flesh cannon, or silver, and procedurally generates whiplash-tier retorts and insults that follow some form of a sentence structure, but lacking any logical relevance. The more time it spends here, the more it learns how to fling insults. I don't know why they would do it, maybe an advanced type of captcha learning system?
dvine wherever you are out there, you haven't been forgotten. I'm going to get to the bottom of this.
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>>150733076
pls anons

so Magi - Venier or Magi - Venier rc?
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Nice rating.
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>>150739021
I won that match while overweight. I bought potions before going in and didn't even see it. The dragoon on my team is also Rodel1.
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>>150739021
>4 swordies, no catas

that must have been the most fun match ever
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best stats for afk necro bot? wiz3link1sorc1necr2?
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>>150737307
I already answered this for you. Put 1 point in it.
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>>150701275
practicing tit grab
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>>150738283
>using a potion
You know that Necro summons don't need this, right?
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>>150730231
The only reasons to go Chaplain are for 100% Stone Skin uptime and if you're in a group with auto attack masters like QS3 and potentially Cannon2. For general play, it's pretty shitty.

**Chaplain with very high SPR is godlike for the Siaulai mission.**
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>everyone in party says its over as soon as we start because 1 dudes afk and everyone complains about teams swordie
>turns out opponent team only had 4 so its 4v4
>afk dude come back round 3 as well
Remember kids, always have hope , the hope that others will face despair instead of you
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>The same quest markers that didn't work in mouse mode in CBT2 still don't work.
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>>150739845
>tfw QS3 with a chap in the party
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How do we spot b-boys(eww) faking themselves as girls?

This is really confusing and not fair now!!

When I see a cute girl I have pure cute(not lewd) thoughts about her but it can be a b-boy!
I don't want to think about boys!!
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>>150740172
t. boy
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>>150740172
Lose weight
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>>150740172
But by thinking about the possibility of girls being boys, aren't you thinking about boys?
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is grand cross +8 good enough to get me to 220? i'm a poorfag and also incredibly unlucky, so i don't want to risk getting +10
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>>150740394
You can always farm for a didel :^)
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>>150740440
>farm for didel
>pre-220

>>150740394
you might as well keep rolling it until you hit 1 potential
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>>150740440
I plan on it, but my question was is a grand cross + 8 good enough to get me from 40 to 220, or will my damage my shit after 120?
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>>150740172
didn't read post too distracted by pic
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>>150740394
I'm still using my +8 GC at 250. Its fallen off a bit but its still usable. You should have no problems getting to 220+.
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>>150740394
Yes, but be prepared to use it till 280.

I've been at Saalus since May and haven't gotten a Didel yet.

I have every other recipe though.
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>>150740531
That was a joke anon, you can't "farm" for a didel since its limited to 6 tries a day, you'll be at it for months before you get your didel so you want at least a +10-15 grand cross since you'll be using it until 240+ after which if you get lucky you MAY get a didel
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>>150740172

if they're cute, does it really matter?
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>>150740801
Yes, I plan on having children in the future.
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Which /tosg/ guild is the most friendly to social retards? I've been wanting to join Clover for a while now, but I'm afraid to message Karga because I'm shit at the game and also I can't hold a conversation for more than 2 or 3 replies.
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>>150740897
Silly anon, two girls can't have children.
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Who is the luckiest girl you know?
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Is there a guild on klap with room for two returning players? Me and the wife looking for a guild with the least amount of erp drama
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>>150741090
Are you me?
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>>150741141
you______
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>>150741146
cake or possibly cute
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>>150741146
__________no
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>>150741146
database is pretty free last I checked but its run by an attentionwhore gay erper so I'm not sure how filled with erp drama it is
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>>150741090
>>150741146

You can join us at Valhalla.

PM me or dvine in game.
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>>150741141
my mom, for having a good kid like me
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>>150741146
You two could go back to FOE. Pretty sure they haven't filled those spots yet.
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>>150741146
>Me and the wife

>you'll never have a wife
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>>150736191
They aren't trying to do something different nor original. What seems "different" and "original" to you is accidental because they just do things randomly without putting any kind of thought into anything. And don't mistake brokenness and buggyness for originality.
"Balanced" in an mmo means that the fun is balanced and to make (or at least try to make) things equally fun for everyone, you need to actually design and engineer your game.
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>>150741342
they get discord drama instead :^)
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>>150741527
why to live
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>>150740897

well first of all try a dating site instead.

and if you really knew someone from tos well enough that youd actually take things beyond the game (you dont and you never will) you'd know their real gender for certain by that point would you not
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>>150741313
In database, can confirm no ERP or drama are taking place.
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>>150741146
F.O.E
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>>150741527
>having a wife
>not just fucking radom girls to impregnate and spread your genes more and better
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>>150741342
wrong couple, we are not looking for guild, FOE (and clover) were a reallly good guilds, and i'm very grateful with jinsae and karga (maybe patsch too ) for that. but we don't have any plans to join any guild now, but still thank you.
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>Klai guilds trying to get people to join their guilds

Sure is nice to hold the monopolies on the other servers. No offence to Klaipedals.
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>>150740010
Do Rexipher with QS3 Musk with Didel as main DPS with a Chaplain and a Chrono in party

Took over 2 fucking hours

As an inaccurate comparison, a real party of Fletcher/SR, Healer, Tank, Chrono takes less than an hour.
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>>150742452
>Outlaw servers
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>>150741527

Don't get married, it's a meme.

t. Katz
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>>150742248
why wasn't i invited to the wedding??
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>>150742452
says the server that only has one guild
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>>150742604
Dr Katz was a good anime
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>>150741327
Cancer
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>>150717516
>>150717697
somebody do Klaipedo
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As a returning player. Ive seen some info about tanks not being super good.

My orig plan was to go s >h > p > r > r > r > mur?

With str and con.

Is this viable now days or is being a primary tank not needed?
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>>150743918
The first WAS klaipedo
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>>150743918
>>150744236
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>>150741141
You don't want to know what the rodent found today without even looking for it
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>>150717516
>>150717697
based misinfo agents

your shitposts deserve (u)
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>>150744023
You're not so much a tank as you are someone who beats people up with your shield.
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>>150744507
Its the truth anon, did you think it was a meme that SEA has almost 90% of the tos players?
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>>150744023
I take it you mean SwordHighlanderPeltastaRodel3Murmillo? Rodel is only "tank" up to C2, the third circle is exclusively damage. Highlander is okay if going Rodel3 because Cartar Stroke is a nice strike skill to use. And what >>150744531 said is right, you're just a shield brawler.

It's a good build. Alternatively, you could replace go SwordPeltHop instead, getting the use of 1h Spears instead of taking a rank just for Cartar Stroke.
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>>150720384
>>150744236
I t-thought that was KTOS
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>sub10k
we're on life support now
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Do extra damage lines like cafrisun or sacrament add extra ice shards when hitting an ice wall?
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Just checked, 415 players on Orsha and 508 players on Klaipedo lmfao
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>>150744414
What the rodent found?
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>>150745214
>/tosg/ has 150~ people across 6 guilds
literally tosg is around 1/4 of the server
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>>150744720
Thanks for the advice..

Im already s > h snd was sbout to go pelt. If i wanted to be slightly more defensive would maybe dropping third circle of rod, and taking hop for spears instead be better?

Im assuming 1h spears > 1h swords?
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>>150717516
>>150717697
Not really surprising. Especially when you consider the constant "someone queue for <level> dungeon please", "looking for anyone for alemeth/evac" and not seeing anyone in several maps aside from bots.

Not really surprising since party bug has been unfixed for so long, Silute is in an even worse state since most people are fucking sick of the constant lag and unstable servers. If the gameplay issues weren't fucking enough to make people quit.
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>>150745306
We can run this operation. We can make it in our image.
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>>150745176
t-top 100
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>>150745214
It's bullshit. It doesn't count people inside dungeons, missions and other instanced zones like pvp arenas.
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it's friday 1pm at the latest in us
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>>150745214
>NA servers
>10:49 AM PDT
>1:49 PM EDT
I can't tell if you're being retarded on purpose or doomposting like a turd.
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>>150745410
You know, you're forgetting a circle there. You can get Sword -> Highlander -> Peltasta ->Rodelero3 -> Rank7 -> Murmillo. You can fit anything you want on the Rank7. And yes, 1h spears are much, MUCH better than 1h swords.

What do you want to do with this character? PvP? PvE? Both?
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>>150745245
Nothing special, really, just a golden mob in igity coast and an Agvara recipe in less than 160 kills on his last alt and all in basically 40 minutes
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>>150745514
>people inside dungeons
you mean bots, you can queue for an hour for some dungeons because no one else is there

>missions
theres like 20 people who queue for them now

>pvp arenas
not even open
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>>150745410
You listed hl>pelt>rod3>mur
Mur is r8 so I guess you could take hoplite or dragoon at r7 if you wanted spear access.
Pretty much
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If I'm going 2 Cleric 3 Kirvis 2 Druid I go int + spr, right?
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>>150745895
Full INT unless you're going support with Zalciai.
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Reminder that the only way to get new players is to post ToS on /v/
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>>150746018
no im quite happy with our current circlejerk thank you
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How do you target cata/sr? help
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>>150746000
Got it. Also, do you know why people don't like to go C3 for guardian saint?
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>>150746105
Then enjoy your dead gaem
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>>150746018
>post on /v/
>instantly shot down by people who actually played this mess and managed to get out
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>>150739405
Reported.

KIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMM
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>>150745674
Shinobi for 5x rodelero skills would be fun. Doppel maybe better?
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Guys is momohime still earning 100+mil per week or has she been finally banned?
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>>150746670
Still top richest.
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>>150745674
Primarily pve, if i can pvp too that will be fun, But i dont want to build just for it
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Why was Louvaine's guild removed from the OP?
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>>150746876
Was it ever there to begin with?

That said, it's with less than 5 members and I remember that Louvaine didn't even care that much about it.
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Post them
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>>150746876
dead
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>>150746792
how the fuck can she run vedas 24/7 and never get banned even when shes reported non-stop?
what le fug is this
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>>150746670
She was banned a couple weeks ago. The current #1 on the silver ranking is now dvine.

>>150746653
>>150746875
How about you go SwordLanderPeltRodel3Dragoon2? You're tanky, capable of dealing damage, and get to use the Dragoon2 attribute that doubles melee damage. Dragoon -> Murmillo makes you tankier, and less of a party support.
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>>150747008
IMC don't play their game. Busy touring the world with their sportscars.
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>>150747062
>The current #1 on the silver ranking is now dvine.
The only thing he managed to accomplish as a necro.
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Im 210 and finished questing through stogas plateau, should I card up and continue questing or grind truffles?
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>>150747364
>grinding before storage at the earliest
(you)

Just keep questing away
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>>150747193
As much as I disagree with dvine on pretty much everything, you have to agree that it's quite an achievement. He has over 110m Silver on him right now, and that's AFTER the maxed an attribute for a Rank6 skill.
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>>150747062
I like the sound of that build, looks like the only thing id lose out on is not being sble to use 1hspear until pretty late, but having cartar stroke im hoping will make up for that
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>>150747463
Yeah, afk'ing at bees all day sure is an achievement
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>>150747364
Grind Truffles from 210~212 all the way to 229. pop cards from 229 to the EXP reset at 236, then a couple more to get to 240. Grind Evac until 248 or so, then pop more cards to get into Storage range.
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>>150747364
Keep questing, with the new quests you don't need to ever grind till storage.
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>>150747609
Is bee money still good? Read there was a nerf somewhere

I have a necro but I still didn't get to the point where I actually care about money/items in the game, been leveling and pvping only so far
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>>150739946
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louvaine i'm not trying to namedrop or meme you, but please don't give up on your guild. you're an awesome dude and you have the potential to be one of the best /tosg/ guild leaders.
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>>150747831
it fucking sucks now
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>>150747941
What's the difference?

How much could you make with 8h AFK compared to now on average?

Are you just saying that so I don't do it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42i88rcrzRk
>someone undercuts you
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>>150747459
>>150747804
While this is true, it's still a good idea to make best use of the available grinding areas. Finding parties for Alemeth is easy, and it's a really comfy and easy grind.

It's much better to use cards to skip the last few levels between zones and, in particular, the more cards you save to use at Maven range, the better. Maven is ass.
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>>150747916
[hope] was my gw2 /vg/ guild
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>>150748116
Used to spawn in massive mobs, now spawns individually.
Used to be you can afk just at one spot non-stop since even with the anti-bot measures previously, there was enough bees coming in that you didn't need to move. Now if you don't clear the map every now and than or have someone clear it for you, you'll get jack shit.

Used to be around 100k+ an hour for around 3mil per day afk
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>needing to maven
:^)
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>>150748349
I was stupid for missing out on it then

I'm sure there is some AFK spot somewhere that is still good though
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>>150748882
vedas is good if your server has bots that can help control the spawns
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are gems 0.01% or 0.1%?
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>>150749581
1/10000
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>>150747193
how delusional can you get? even if it's my only accomplishment you've got zero let alone something to compare to it.
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>>150749581
.01%
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>CuteNotLewd guild uses transform bug to control channel 1 fedimian squire shops in Klaipeda server

CuteNotLewd on suicide watch

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/infinite-party-members-unbreakable-weapon-upgrades-druid-transform-crashing-channels-etc-etc/313564
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>>150749876
swaaz out
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>>150749876
Your meme is 3 weeks old retard.
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>>150749791
dvine you don't know who you're replying to with each post. Stop angrily replying assuming you're hot shit, some of us have done a lot more than AFK farming
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>>150750427
i don't need to care who i'm replying to. cause you haven't done shit compared with me hence you're a little bitch hiding as anonymous while i reach every goal i set even on accident.
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>>150748349
Nice game you play there retards.
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>>150750608
Its time for you to fuck to reddit then. Brag to them about it.
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>>150710209
>tfw first time i died in the game was to this quest
>also had to go get blessing because he kept stun locking me with his untelegraphed attacks
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>>150750608
how do you stay so salty all the time? did you have to practice?
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hello... im a tank and i get #4-#5 dps rank

do you look down on me? ;__;
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>>150750608
I've done a lot more than you dvine.

Keep that in mind lmao, you're shit
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>>150751227
I mean if you're tanking right you're doing fine.
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>>150749876
Do theese still work? How to into refine bug
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>>150751227
>thinking tanks are even needed
pelt 1 is all anyone ever needs
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>>150751227
Nah, the only thing the DPS ranks do for me is surprise me when an unconventional build pulls #1.
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>>150751338
whisper me so i can laugh when i read your name please
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>>150751227
I'm tank too

I don't cry myself to sleep because I believe that keeping the boss still and attacking me increases everyone else's DPS by a lot.

It's the only excuse I have to justify my class
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>>150751491
>pelt1
Useless. The only relevant tanking is boss tanking and pelt1 is worthless against bosses.
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>make evasion Rodelero
>632 evasion at level level 105
>merc bosses 90% misses
>literally indesctructible sans magic
>can hold the boss for minutes on end
>life is boring as fuck
>literally hold Z
>skills are mana hogs
>cant get damaged
>cant deal damage

such is life
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>>150752091
>pelt 1 is worthless against bosses
play the game
the
game
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>>150752227
provoke 10
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>>150746587
>afk necro
>reportable
Retard.
Play the game.
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>>150752091
>pelt1 is worthless against bosses.

How else would you keep the boss aggro on the tank?
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why do people want the lizard ambers
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>>150752508
Just be a swordie... Provoke attribute
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>>150752336
> a mere 500% is enough to keep a bosses attention when there exists fletchers and shinobi
(you)
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>>150752573
Please anon, play the game

>provoke 10
>hit boss
>boss aggro you
>archers hit boss
>boss aggro them
>hit boss
>boss ignores you
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>>150752643
What, are you one of those shitters who holds C?
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>>150752573
Will a max level provoke be enough though, without the added provoke from swash?

I think my provoke is at 5 and it just isn't enough to keep aggro, even with swash sometimes the boss moves away if the fight is just starting
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>>150752739
If that's your experience, you need to step it up.
If the archer is doing 5x more damage than you, you just suck.
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Since there are no pure 'tanks' in this game nor a tank at all, should we instead start calling 'tanks' as Rodeoclowns? since thats what theyre doing, hit swashbuckle and just hold the boss aggro and hope you dont fall
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NEW THREAD PLEASE SEND HELP
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>>150752458
He specifically said SorcNecro bot. He won't utilize his TS summon without macro/autopot botting, retard. Play the game.
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>>150752865
t. someone who has never had 100% magic arrow fletcher in their party
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>>150751227
When does chappu stop pulling ahead as #1 DPS in missions? Or are my random party members just retarded? C-pelts I'm looking at you. Also this one idiot cryochrono that would haste,quicken and then afk.
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>>150752865
(You)
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>>150752876
Pure tanks do exist but they only exist for demon lords of which even if you're in the mafia, you'll rarely catch more than 1-2 a day.
ET doesn't count since you're tanking jack shit since you're running around in circles
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>>150752748
>tanks that just block are a real thing

As soon as I made mine I realized how stupid they were being

I wish manual block cancelled all animations however, it can be difficult to try and attack when you are fighting for example the 2 bosses at the same time from fed mission. All you can do is use Endure Pain and take some of the hits while you attack
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>>150753037
Even they don't do more than 5x as much as I do, sorry you're awful.
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>>150753005
we are done with that, just stay here

Reply limit has been removed because Hiro wants 4chan to be more like reddit
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>>150753186
You can jump the poata attacks. Bit of strafing and jumping lets you attack most of the time.
Or hope you get into a party with my useless chaplain for stoneskin so you can stand in place and block everything.
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>Taking 5k dmg from monsters
>Buy Aspersion lvl 17
>1 dmg from everything

This is some quality game design.
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should i slap cleric3 or diev2 on my memepally3 before going inquisitor
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>>150752643
Swash Buckling won't help you get aggro if someone outside your party steals it.
If you can't hold aggro with damage + provoke alone, you're not a tank.
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>>150753765
are yotu a fencer rodel? im making one too, how is it?
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Migrate
>>150753842
>>150753842
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>>150753189
I've seen Rynn facetank 280 bosses and hold aggro 100% of the time even with all of diamond, aistra, crimson, raid and their strongest dragoons/fencers present.

You are full of shit.
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>>150753913
It's fun.
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>>150753027
>best stats for afk necro bot?
I don't see any sorc mentioned in the bot part.
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>>150754061
best stats for afk necro bot? wiz3link1sorc1necr2?
>link1sorc1necr2?
Retard, play the game.
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>>150754181
Most necro2 go sorc1 for the +5 aoe ratio that cat buffs give.
Again, play the game.

No sane necro2 would also utilize ts and risk getting banned, since skeletons kills everything anyway.
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>>150754656
whats the advantage to the +5 aoe ratio in a necro build? is it just for flesh cannon?
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wiz1 -> pyro1 -> linker1
how fucked is this

also I dont remember pyro having poor damage early on in beta, does this mean cryo is fixed and if so should I reroll? I was thinking wiz1->cryo2->linker1-> (or alt cryo3-> sorc)

halp
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>>150753597
>you can jump an arm attack that is taller than a wall

would never have guessed, this game makes no sense sometimes with the mechanics. Doesn't make much difference though, between jumping and blocking. Both really need to break all animations
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>>150755714
You can jump a lot of boss attacks, even mineloader purple laser you can jump and it hits you for less ticks.
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>>150701130
inquisitor>sword
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>>150755396
eat my cock
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>>150740897
>you can't text fuck a dude because you might impregnate him in the future

Fucking bullshit, your erotic text adventures are stupid and will never end up in physical contact, like you could even see someone in the eye after telling him your lewd fantasies in some gook mmo where you had ambiguous genders and exchanged virtual fluids.
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>>150755396
its not fucked, you still can go wiz3 pyro2 linker warlock sage
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