Hearthstone general /hsg/

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First for serious esport game

>>150688873
Damn I love this card. If the opponent has trouble removing it, you got shitloads of pressure for days.

>>150689087
Most of /hsg/ would disagree that HS should ever be taken seriously as an E-sport.

>>150689087
It's cheaper ancient of lore in the form of a spell

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>>150689087
>>150689127
>>150689128
these are the kind of people who play Hearthstone
>my brother, 14 gets a shitty apple phone for bday
>whines about having no games until mother tells him to download Hearthstone AND buys him all the adventure and like 500 classic packs to go with it.
>plays it constantly
>literally its like 24/7 nonstop hearthstone
>even after he farmed the gold cap for the day
>he solely plays shaman/warlock/warrior
>remind him that aggro decks are cancer and that only fags use them, as its the easiest shit to use
>brags about his rank 10 like he is tough shit
>mom later buys him a "game pc" just for Hearthstone
>one day notice extension cords coming up from basement
>Unfinished basement, no outlets
>one day have to take the children (my son and daughter, and my brother....) to my fathers house
>parents divorced, mother at school
>brother taking too long
>"hurry up would ya"
>tells me to wait a sec. everyone else in the car been waiting for a while.
>unplug extension cord, cutting power to the basement
>unrepeatable screech echos through the house
>brother runs up stairs red in fury
>starts yelling at me about how he was in some hearthstone competition and he could have won 500 dollars or some shit
>i really dont give a fuck tell him to get in the car
>pulls a shitty 5 dollar cs:go knife from amazon on me
>fucking what.
>punch him in the face tell him to get in the car
>crying all the way to his dads house
> tries to get my dad to call the cops
>dad is just annoyed at him
>I leave
> mfw disappointment runs through my veins. I am related to him by blood.

>>150689215
Is this pasta?

This art style is the worst I've seen for this game yet and the theming just keeps on getting worse

>>150689128
it's basically not like ancient of lore at all in any way

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Ben Brode gets questioned on video about the Firelands Portal and Arena balance

>Brode: I guess we can NOT make more powerful commons for Mage and Rogue, and make more useful common cards for shit cards like Hunter, Priest, etc

>Brode: Except I don't think that's the solution, what if I change the way I code arena (Which I don't know if I even can do), or the way that draft in arena works (Which again, I don't know if I can do), or what if arena gets replaced by another play mode, or what if we solution it when new technology comes to Blizzard in some years

>Laughs

>Next question please

THIS GUY IS FUCKING RETARDED

>>150689215
I don't remember this one

>>150689536
>5/5 body
>Heals for 5

That spell
>Heal for 6
>On average you will spawn a 5.2/5.3 body

It's 1 mana cheaper.

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What's this new meme you're pushing, Blizzard?

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>>150689406
worst art incoming

>>150689634
but u lose the option to draw card for 2 mana so it's balance :DD

t. brode

>>150689641
Trying to get people to make creative decks which will never happen because they're half assing it.

>Kripp literally is so mad from Moonglade Portal being rare and Firelands Portal being common that he is red and hyperventilating on stream
>Rania calling 911

Brode did this on purpose, he is trying to kill Kripp

>>150689641
Zoo druid. Seriously, I've been testing it out today and it's pretty good. Stuff like that murloc that drops a 1/1 taunt, dire wolf, and the dragon egg that pumps out 2/1's.

I knocked some warlock down from 28 health to 8 health on turn five using savage roar with that army spam.

If the low-cost multi-creature trend continues zoo will be insane.

>>150690025
Zoo druid will never work. Warlock can only get away with it because of their broken hero power.

>>150689215
aggroshitters, not even once.

Regardless, I am guilty of bringing Dragon Warrior to competitions and doing reasonably well

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>>150689756
Best art coming.

Guys, what if they print a "Call of the Tribes" card that summon a random Beast, Murloc and Dragon?

>>150690025

That would be flood druid.

>>150690583
all arbitrary names for the same shit

>>150690508
also a mech, pirate, and demon.

what will the new meta be like

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>>150690881
That's not zoo. Zoo is Murloc, Dragon and Beasts.

>more random shit.

S T O P
T T
O_ _O
P__ __P

>>150690982
It's going to be centered around Nat Pagle otk Priest

>>150690982
exactly the same

maybe more oozes and harrisons

>>150691145
>not liking random stuff in a card game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4fxe75810

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>>150691226
>all this weapon shit
>I got golden Harrison and golden oozes from packs eons ago

Im ready

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>>150688873
Hey, hey... wanna buy a... season pass?

>>150691264

I like my meals salty, but I would not eat salt by the spoonful.

Same difference.

should i disenchant dr. boom for a call of the wild

>>150689550
why is this retarded?
look, we all know that arena has gotten more retarded and luckbased compared to classic, because spells get more and more diluted in the cardpool compared to chunky minion temposhit, right?
And wouldn't a great solution to that problem be manual frequency tweaks so that people can see spells more often, arena can go back to rewarding foresight and playing around things, and classes feel distinct instead of being the same curveout bullshit with minor adjustments for your hero power?
and _if_ spells get adjusted to have a frequency or a selection mechanism decoupled from the frequency their printed rarity would suggest, won't that make it really fucking pointless to whinge about such-and-such spell being common and such-and-such spell being rare?

brode and his cronies very little say anything that implies they're even remotely in touch with reality, so it kinda grinds my gears to see people shitting on him for the one time he starts almost approaching an intelligent thought, albeit in his typically evasive manner

>>150691625
no

>>150689891
Just watched the vod. That didn't happen. I'm disappointed.

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what does /hsg/ think of this card?

>>150691730

Because he is saying they will not do that.

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>>150689756
Nah, that's pretty good.

Compare with pic related, it's fucking hideous

Death Knight class when?

>>150691983
Seem okay. 5/10.

>>150692267
http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Gabe_from_Penny_Arcade

he cant keep getting away with it

>>150692116
He's saying they will not change the design philosophy that prints powerful arena commons for mage/rogue and doesn't print those commons for hunter/priest/etc.
That's not the same as saying they won't change the way arena shows cards during the drafting process, and in fact his answer is about the possibility of making those kinds of structural changes... It's not that the low tier classes don't _have_ good commons (cf. velen's chosen). It's just that they don't have as many of them. There are solutions to the balance problem that don't involve printing new cards. In fact those may be the only viable solutions, depending on how irreparably braindead the other Brodeite card designers are.

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>play shitty, budget pirate warrior
>rank 5 in a week stress free
>play full-on miracle rogue
>struggle in rank 20

i hate this game

>>150692305

>Hero Power: Blood Tap: Discard a random card, restore 2 health

Y/N?

>>150692305
They can barely make 5 out of 9 classes viable in the same meta, let alone adding even more classes to the game.

>>150692842
i dont get it

>>150692842
sounds like you already work for the hearthstone design team

>>150692842
That's the worst Hero Power I've ever heard of

>>150689087
Haha is this for real? Jesus christ they aren't even trying anymore. Rename it RNG stone for real and put the meme to rest.

>>150692842
>>150692842
Unless they literally introduce cloned Dark World cards this is this the worst idea I've ever heard. Neg 1 for priests hero power? Fucking never.

>>150692842
Better send your resume in to Blizzard.

>>150692516
The jouster looks ok, but leeroy and kill command are ass.

>>150692989
>>150692991
>>150693003
>>150693113

>inb4 every broken fucking DK ability translates into a broken card

Those who played WoW when Wrath launched can testify that DK was broken as fuck.

>>150692743
like, hell, just look at what happened to warrior when they tried making nice commons that seemed relevant for arena because #arenawarriorsmatter
blood to ichor and ravaging ghoul are shitting over the entire metagame
I have no objections to team 5 looking at that and thinking, y'know, maybe we should be a little gunshy about printing cards to give hunter a leg up in arena, and maybe we should look into balance changes to arena that don't carry the risk of fucking over constructed

>>150650238
what the fuck is a evergreen

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>>150692305
the only way I see this happening is by making a new game mode that is basically only classic cards + 1 expansion (that would rotate with every new expansion)
this way, DK would be possible by adding about 19 class cards (10 basic + 9 form expansion) without fucking up standard's meta
after that they could slowly add class cards form earlier expansions until DK had enough to be playable in any mode

throwing DK in standard + classic cards + all expansion cards at once would easily break the game

>>150693331
That's why I said
>>150692842
>Unless they literally introduce cloned Dark World cards this is this the worst idea I've ever heard..

They would have to make actually insanely unbalanced cards, in which case: power creep

>>150692743
>>150693334
Don't understand why they won't just slap a rarity on it for Arena but keep it common for constructed. They have no issue allowing wild cards to show up in Arena so the whole issue of different cards different modes is moot.

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>>150693504
Like making this for discardlock/DK

>>150693383
Available to all classes in terms of class cards

>tfw might have to buy the last 3 wings of BRM for the shitty dragon cards

glad they came out with a new adventure this game was beyond dead hopefully it revives it

>>150693809
Going to rotate out at some point in the near-ish future, just saying homie. Dragon decks are probably going to rise in power though for the next 3-4 months if they plan on doing an x-pac early next year.

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>>150693383
Glad you asked, from wikipedia

>Evergreen keywords
>These are keywords which may appear in any Magic set, particularly the Core Sets where they are usually the only keywords. They are also used in many expert-level expansions, but in those sets they are printed without reminder text.
>For example, deathtouch, haste, trample, flying.

Now that we are on the subject, analize the following changes that would make Hearthstone a much better card game:

DISCOVER mechanic becomes evergreen.
SECRETS mechanic becomes evergreen and all classes gain access to them.

Neutral cards moved to Classic
>Nerubian Egg
>Sludge Belcher
>Loatheb
>Zombie Chow
>Reno Jackson
>Sir Finley Mrrgglton
>Justicar Truehearth (all the powers are re-ajusted for balance)

Hunter cards moved to Classic
>Webspinner
>King's Elekk
>Steamweedle Sniper
>Call of the Wild

Paladin cards moved to Classic
>Muster for Battle
>Shielded Minibot
>Keeper of Uldaman
>Anyfin Can Happen
>Murlock Knight

Druid cards moved to Classic
>Darnassus Aspirant
>Living Roots
>Raven Idol
>Fandral Staghelm

Warrior cards moved to Classic
>Death's Bite
>Grim Patron (becomes Warrior class only)
>Alexastra's Champion

Mage cards moved to Classic
>Arcane Blast
>Flamewalker
>Mad Scientist (becomes Mage class only)

Priest cards moved to Classic
>Deathlord (becomes Priest class only)
>Velen's Chosen
>Lightbomb
>Dark Cultist
>Museum Curator

Rogue cards moved to Classic
>Tinker's Oil
>Unearthed Raptor
>Tomb Pillager
>Undercity Huckster

Shaman cards moved to Classic
>Ancestral Knowledge
>Lava Shock
>Tuskarr Totemic
>Totem Golem
>Tunnel Trogg

Warlock cards moved to Classic
>Imp-losion
>Demonwrath
>Dark Peddler

Is this Thijs Beast Druid deck still viable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl0UfACY49k

>>150693883
Please no, let it die
Or fire brode and hire someone who isnt retarded

>>150692842
Are you fucking serious? Discarding a card for one of the shittiest hero powers [Priest] in the game?

Unless the entire class revolves around making discarding a positive thing ,like Warlock, it's fucking awful.

If anything, how about sacrifice one of your minions and gain some effect? And have the class work around self-sac/tokens/deathrattle

>>150694035
They say that with every expansion. They are still here.

>>150694189
But I really want it to die
Brode is fucking Konami level bad with balancing
Have you seen yugioh?
Have you seen recent yugioh?
Its grotesque, brode is swiftly approaching them

>>150694010
>King's Elek
>Literally coinflip for a curve
>Classic


Sort of fine with the rest, but that shit's awful. Though desu, the idea of immortalizing class exclusives is dicks. It means the class is gonna play and look the same for years to come.
I'm fine with immortalizing neutral cards, like Reno or Belcher, but class specific is a bad idea.

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fuck, if you deal over 1000 damage the stupid brawl oponent explodes

>>150693883
>beyond dead
>takes three seconds to find a match at any rank

>>150694293
At least Yugioh can contain some fun

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>>150694408
Kripp tested that shit yesterday and I was surprised to see that if a minions gets over 2billon stat on attack or thoughness it simply explodes for no reason.

Like what the fuck

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>>150694506

fun died a long time ago

>>150694640
The key is to not play YGO and instead shoot the shit with some friends on the console games.

>>150694562
for servers reasons

>>150694506
I agree
I played chaos scientist way back, took a brake then came back for clownblade until they made it into a pendulum deck
Its just not the same, infinite value is simply not as fun as cheesing stuff out

>>150693270
At least Leeroy has the benefit of being an inside joke but I'd do anything to change Kill Command

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>>150694010
>nerubian egg
>loatheb
>sludge belcher
>minibot
>mad scientist
>implosion
feels good to never have to see this shit again

>Reno Jackson
>Sir Finley Mrrgglton
>Dark Peddler
feels good that these will soon be good

fuck these gay cards

>>150694729
>>150694640

I miss Teledad ;___;

>>150694828
Didnt they make teledad into that new Kozmo archetype?
I mean good tuners still exist and armades isnt getting any worse

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SECRET PALADIN IS DEAD!

>>150694293
blizz problem is that not only they are shit are balance -"babbling book is a good card for arena" levels of bad - but also they refuse to ackowledge their mistakes, which leads to a very stagnent meta, since they nerf cards once in a blue moon and refuse to buff shit tier cards in any kind of way

>>150695064
Nooooo Teledad has too much stuff missing and too many erratas, Kozmo is cancer and plays e teleport and tuners to my knowledge but I don't think it's the best thing atm.

I don't fuck with the game since DN was taken down but I pretty much dropped ygo and fow when I started playing Hearthstone. It was a terrible decision. Although both also suck.

>>150695289
Tbh the more I look back the more I realize their corporate arrogance. Its even in overwatch and sc2.

I played wc1-3 and brood wars way back, I miss old blizz

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AGGRO IS DEAD

>>150695425
I was mad af when DN was taken down
I used to just watch the top rated games and meme at people in chat, that was a lot of fun
I may try that ygopro thing

Im in a similar situation to you, I dropped mtg and came to hs because of monetary and portability reasons, since all I played was legacy

I still play cockatrice from time to time though, not as much since my deck is hyper dead.

>>150695289
This is so true. Their arrogance is legendary. Like that Priest interview recently, where they damage controlled the fuck out of it and dodged a proper answer.

Fucking sucks because I love Hearthstone's digital format, and the core system is great, but they have shit for balance and design.

>>150695289
Not to mention they are TERRIBLE at launching new sets. It takes for ever.

Look ar MTG, more shit than you could ever hope to buy. You have a spoiler season almost every month. With HS if you do your dailies and ladder some you can keep up with everything pretty much. I had 7k gold before the last expansion, bought 70+ packs with it and now I'm back at 5k. AND blizz is caving in to give more packs for new players.

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>>150694035
>>150694293
>Please no, let it die
>Or fire brode and hire someone who isnt retarded

Consider the following scenario

>Brode gets fired
>They hire a good card game designer from Magic or some other sucessful card game
>We no longer get RNG slapped on all the cards
>Arena and rarity is corrected and all the classes become competitive in that mode
>The competitive scene on ranked becomes balanced and we no longer suffer from aggro decks killing everything on sight
>Control becomes viable without being insuferable or boring
>If we get some unbalanced cards on the meta, they get patched a week after release
>Lore is given the respect it deserves
>Game becomes much more skill based and reading your opponent plays becomes highly rewarding
>Game dies because the autistic braindead players which were 90% of the playerbase go away

It's much more likely than you think.

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>>150696108
Agreed. Tha game is what it is, you can't REALLY change its core. But it could be done in a much better way. Also who is the cutie?

>>150696108
This is kinda true, most of the player base is casual who likes it BECAUSE of the RNG. It gives them a chance to compete and rob victories and post their "funny" RNG stories to Reddit for upvotes.


Seriously, if you guys like the MTG system but want something new, try Force of Will. It's a perfect blend of MTG with the best features from HS. (Selective mulligan, guaranteed mana every turn, weapons, "do your turns in any order you want", etc)

>>150696097
Very very slight devils advocate here, but MTG has been doing this for so long it isn't even funny so they can absolutely dive into making sets faaaar in advance. Not to mention they have moderately compotent people making cards compared to RNG-stone.

I think everyone would enjoy this game a fuckload more if they played a bit more fast and loose with balance changes. Instead everyones almost always disgruntled because its so stagnant.

>>150696739
But I am a closet weaboo, I cant be seen in public with force of will!
That would.mean leaving my room!

Seriously though, a friend of mine loves it. All i need is an online app to play it. If you can link me to one im sold, as long as its free.

>>150696097
If magic cards were free that would be great.

>>150696739
Yeah good old R/R really keeping the game fresh from what I've heard. I miss the first couple formats for fow and Scheherazade and co. Stopped playing after the set with Valencia or w/e

>>150696920
I think you can try it at untap.in? Dunno if that's still a thing.

DESU, the game's so fucking cheap right now [they haven't become popular enough to go full Jew I guess] you can make a competitive deck for 60-100 bucks top. Just go to a local if you have a scene, try it out, and join the fun. A real life TCG is infinitely better aside from the cost, and in this case it's not an issue.

>>150696920
People play it on untap but it has a weird UI until you get used to it and it's not official. :c

>>150697148
I recommend you join in next set, shit's looking cash.

>>150697234
>>150697287
Ill have to try untap then

Also since you know more about it than I do, where can I find good decks? Or ideas? The only decks I liked to play in mtg where Prison (stax) or Combo (eggs/storm)

>>150697374
I did really enjoy it during Bahamut format desu. My LGS "strongly discouraged" bringing it, so I got free credit just cleaning up.

>>150697445
Honestly just look up events and top players and see what decks are around and what would float your boat. Honestly the game is probably pretty different than when I played.

I don't even remember what resources I used when I actually played ╮(╯▽╰)╭

>>150696843
Blizz makes 20M+/year with HS, they could just hire good game designers, developers, Q&A and all that shit.

And the meta is stagnent because the expansions are laughably small and with horrible release pace. We get 1 40-card adventure and maybe 2 100-card expansions in an entire year. And judging by the current pace I don't think we will get a second expansion this year.

>>150692891
Sounds like the WoW balance team

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So is it auto include in c'thun warrior?

>>150697445
I don't know shit about Magic's meta since like, a decade ago, but library of will is a good starting point, they have decklists from every relevant tournament updated weekly.

>>150697892
It's kind of slow for constructed, and comes at a big price for a board clear. Don't get me wrong, it might be playable, but it's way better in arena i think.

>>150697797
Honestly, the game prints money. As far as they are concerned there is no problem with it. Why should they fire that shit team that doesn't do anything if they're making so much money? In their eyes the team is clearly doing something right.


Funny thing, I really wonder what DO they do all this time. Game looks like ass, there's no fucking technical updates, no balance updates, no new modes... what do they do during the three months between sets? Don't tell me it takes them 3 months to fucking make up the new cards, shit can be done in a week.

Are they all just robbing Blizzard? Coming to the office for like 2 hours every day and shooting shit?

>>150697892
Feels like a Reno Warrior card or possibly C'Thun Warrior for when you're at 20+ armor but the enemy manages to flood the board again

>>150698075
> and comes at a big price for a board clear.

Do people realize the "price" is non-existent anyway? This would all be damage you'd take next turn regardless; you aren't taking any extra damage using it.

Honestly, I see it as an auto-include in this meta, where aggro/"""tempo""" is everywhere.

>>150698104
why is it so hard to believe it takes 3 months to think of a powercreeped basic card and an imp master with stealth

>>150698104
They probably testplay their ideas every once in a while and they do have to figure out which tavern brawl to reuse every week, to be fair. :^)

>>150698397
I'm starting to doubt they testplay desu. Someone will have to explain to me how so much garbage makes it through, whether it's OP crap or just useless trash like Shadow Word: Horror.

Seriously, did someone there manage to pilot a successful Priest deck with SW:H and SW:T in their testing phase? Or did nobody bother playing it?

>>150698387
They probably try to imitate the google offices where you are free to do whatever you want and nobody cares because hearthstone still makes money.

>>150698104
the fact that they constantly take ideas from reddit (made usually just a few weeks before launch mind you) reforces the idea that they actually do nothing. BBrode probably just tweets all day long. That rest of the team i have no idea. They might actually get 1 or 2 weeks of playtest. But it's pretty clear they don't play their own game very much, maybe a few constructed matches, but defintely not arena.

People over at leddit actually think the wall for new players is too high, so maybe they are working at that. Judging by the state of the game reading reddit might actually be a job over there.

>>150697004
And how are they supposed to feed their families?

>>150698243
Using brawl geatly reduces the damage taken next turn, for example, and it's also 5 mana. It depends on the meta, it could be playable, but definetly not auto include.

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>Kripp got his BEST DECK EVER according to HearthArena score
>Mage with flamewalker, multiple board clears, fireballs, conjurers and top quality minions

I can't wait for him to go 3-2 and blame anyone but him.

>>150699054
Reddit isn't wrong about there being a wall for new players, though. While standard does help, each new expansion (be it full set or adventure) adds new cards that have to be collected, and if you are a new player starting from scratch, you have an awful long climb ahead of you to even reach a half-playable deck. It only gets worse if you're a new player unwilling to drop some real money on the game.

Sure, Arena can help from an economic perspective, but if you're new, you sure as hell aren't breaking even, let alone getting a gold profit.

>>150697004
They would't be swiming in money then.

>>150699285
Nobody's saying it goes in instead of Brawl... 2x Brawl is a given in any meta, it's one of the three cards that make CW what it is.

It's a supplement to Brawl to make the CW, by far the best [and only] control deck even more broken.

>depends on meta

It's good in an aggro meta, but since Hearthstone is permanently in an aggro meta. Every meta the top decks are some aggro decks that win before turn 10, usually called some meme like "tempo" or "mid-range".


Only exceptions were combo deck metas, where there was ONE good combo deck but the rest was aggro trash.

>>150699156
subsistence farming

>>150699364
Never spent one cent in the game and I have 90% of cards. Currently sitting at 4k gold for the new expansion. It might be shit for a few weeks if you are a new player, but it doesn't take much to make an aggro deck, and then you just do dailies on TB or Casual and ... ok it might take an year to stabilize, and I guess most casuals are not doing that

>>150699285
This card isn't a replacement to brawl. At all.
Decks that want this card don't play brawl.

You want this card to remove enemy minions and leave yours uncontested. It's not a control warrior card.

>>150699863
You realize how ridiculous this sounds, right? A year to "stabilize"? By that time the rotation happens. And honestly, why should I be forced to grind with shit boring aggro decks? Why aren't there any cheap control or combo decks?

>>150700397
I was being generous with 1 year, at the pace of 70 gold a day (40 daily + 9 wins or 60 daily + 3 wins), you get 5 packs in a week + 1 from tavern brawl. And the new player will invest in the classic pack, that never goes away anyway. 3 months and you have a respectable classic collection for free, it's not that high of a wall.

>>150699927

this

I think it's pretty good in Pirates desu senpai. this + an upgrade can kill a ridiculous amount of shit while developing board

>>150700951
>Play this game, grinding it out with a budget tier deck for 3 months then you'll be okay
3 months is very very generous, it'll take the average player probably double that to get a decent card pool.

The options for a new player are very limited
1. Drop money on cards/Adventures
2.Grind it out daily for a period of time that amounts to 3-5 months with budget decks.

The wall is very high for a new player who's looking to try out high tier play.

>>150700951
It takes way longer. Choking on classic packs isn't nearly enough, not when you NEED the adventures [which are a complete rip-off gold-wise] and a lot of new cards from whatever 2-3 packs are up at that time.

You can't make a deck that will go above rank 19 with only basic/classic cards.

>>150701412
So far the expansion mechanic is play something to summon something random.

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>>150701217
That is true, not to mention that you get burned out from playing the same deck for months and you can't afford a viable deck for other classes.

On top of that, by the time you farm the newest adventure and you starting using your gold to get packs from the current expansion, a new expansion/adventure comes out with meta changing cards and you have to stop spending gold in the previous expansion.

>>150701217
We are talking f2p here, you can't get all cards in 1 month or else Blizz ain't making no money here. 3-6 months is not that crazy for a decent sized collection. Again, farm 60 packs in 10 weeks (3 months), and one wing of an adventure every 1.5 week, and you can get a very decent looking collection for FREE in 6 monsth. If you are not homelessand can drop some money for another adventure or 40 packs it just speeds it up.

It's not crazy fast, but definetly not an insurmontable wall.

>>150701474

The expansion silly anon, not the adventure.

Does /hsg/ still do the friend quests together? I got the spectate and 80 gold quest on EUif someone wants the gold.

Seems like all of my bnet friends got fed up with the game since I last actively played.

>>150701939
VentoAureo#2740

>>150701742
An average 4-5 month investment into a game to JUST THEN make it fun because you don't have cards is a giant wall to a lot of players.

The payoff is there, the options are there but they are all a giant detractor to new players.

Adventures should be a lot cheaper to help get new people in the game. As a new player you have mandatory cards for a lot of decks flat out locked behind a paywall, and then you have a lot of the older cards locked behind RNG card packs.

>>150701482
Because there are enough people promoting it already for free.
Duelyst is starving for new players.

>>150701742
No, but you'd think that after a month of playing I'd at least be able to have ONE competitive deck I want. Doesn't sound unreasonable to me. But it's literally impossible to have.

Playing half a year to have a "decent looking collection" isn't enough. Without dropping money you aren't building a SINGLE competitive deck that actually requires epics and a legendary [or more].

>>150701412
could be, but i don't think they got the next expension figured out yet, they seem to always wait for the dust to settle and for ppl to get REALLY bored before they start to think about new cards

that would be the bane of a lot of aggro decks though, I could see it if it was set yours to 35 and the ooponents to 40 or something like that (both get 40 in a mirror match).

>>150701412
Would be run by every single deck that wasn't Aggro, just so you can counter Aggro.

>>150701003
Hm, i don't know, a 5 mana weapon that can't be used as a finisher might not fit pirate warrior

Dragon/Tempo warrior sure though

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>Decide to try and climb ladder a bit this month with some boring meta deck instead of having fun in casual.
>Need Leeroy, never crafted him because I don't usually aggro-cuck.
>But I already want to craft Malygos for use with Barnes and Curator.
>Brawl pack gives me Leeroy.

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>>150702383
It's a really good weapon in Arena anyhow.

It's god tier, actually. Now even Warrior is better than Priest in Arena. Priest is now the worst class in Arena, and is also the worst class in Constructed.

Anduin just can't catch a break, can he.

>>150702021
You can get an aggro deck whithin a month, it will be a budget one, but it's doable. Face Warrior or Hunter are kind of cheap and can get you to rank 5, maybe even Legend, but not reliably (which gives you a golden fucking epic on top of that).

I get the fact that there is an wall, but it's the point of the game: to make money. Maybe that IS turning new players aways from the game, but I don't think it's the worse thing ever. anyway, they seem to agree that new players need more help.

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>>150689550
He's literally the Pizza delivery guy who forced himself on Blizzard until he became a play tester. Then he dabbled with fucking Warcraft 3 editor. And that's his career.

The entire Hearthstone team is a bunch of interns.

Seriously, why do you think their answer to alternate heroes lacking golden portrait is "well, the engine limitations this and that"?

Blizzard commissions people to make their games. After release, they leave the games in the hands of ragtag devs who don't even know the code, let alone the engine, and so can't fucking do anything major with it.

>>150702559
in arena it REALLY is god tier

>STILL no Rogue reverals outside the currently extremely mediocre Peddler

Why does Blizzard hate Valeera?

>>150702952

2 cost weapon
2/1 durability
battlecry; add a random class card to your hand(from your opponents class)

this is what's going to happen

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>>150697892
Am I the only one who sees this as a Pirate Aggro supplement and a bad idea for control/fatigue decks?

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>>150702341
And the problem is?

>>150703145
Doesn't REALLY fit any. Might be a good idea for midrange where you want to clear the board AND have a board at the same time. In control you already have brawl and in pirates you would like a finisher weapon better.

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>>150703279
>>150701412

>control warrior or freeze mage with 40 health

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>chill with magic pro tour
>already up 320 gold in the last 2 days from play a friend quests
>FNM this afternoon

Who supreme comfy here?

>>150703371
Pirate Warrior is all about weapons to clear the board, though. To me, it seems like a great tool. I can clear out Taunt minions to let my guys go face. Or just straight up take full control of how many minions I sacrifice to stabilize my board.

Anything to keep my minions alive is a huge help, in my experience with the Archetype.

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>>150703415
Sure, they should be nerfed.
But aggro needs a global nerf first. Aggro is suffocating the meta, right now. At least Freeze Mage and Warrior lets me play my goddamn deck to turn 10 and permits me to have some fun before destroying me. Aggro is just "no time for your fun, I want to win by turn 6".

>>150702762
The point isn't that there's a wall, is that it's too fucking high. Forcing every new player to play braindead budget aggro for months on end so they can grind MAYBE one interesting deck that will become tier 2 or less next expansion is shit.

Coming from a 2 years vet btw. I can't get any friend to join because it's a ridiculous mountain to climb, and since they aren't complete casuals they actually want to play the game at a decent level.


Game's Jewish as fuck, because it can get away with it with its massive playerbase and income. But by God it's a rip-off.

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>>150703457
Are you me?

Already enough gold for the whole expansion.
Tomorrow FNM with G/W tokens, then comfy Pro Tour watch, and I have my fingers ready to buy some last minute spicy tech from the decklists on sunday.

This could only be better if I pulled a Lilliana or some expensive thing from the packs tomorrow.

>>150702952
There's only one Hunter and Paladin card revealed and ZERO Priest/Shaman revealed. Quit your persecution complex Roguefags.

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>>150697892
This card seems incredibly strong.

Kripp is going to flip.

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>>150703852
I actually opened an Eldritch moon box yesterday.
Pretty fucking good pulls with foil Gisela and a foil spellqueller. Actually i opened everything but Lili and Iskanah

>>150703749
>Freeze Mage and Control Warrior permits me to have some fun.

They are playing wrong then because it is all frustrating all game, or they just bricked on their draws. Alex would literally be a staple in every deck. I think this would make an equally terrible problem.

Idk why I am arguing balance with an ocfag though. Carry on.

>>150703752
They should really reduce the pack prices, honestly. $20 for 15 packs? $50 for 30 packs?

That's so fucking bad, when you can easily get only 1 rare per all of those packs.

>>150694293
Honestly, /hsg/ are the only people bitching about these cards, places like Hearthpwn are lapping most of them up.

>>150692842

>Hero Power: Skeletal Guardsman: Summon a 2/2. You may only have one at a time.

Fixed that for you.

>>150704138
Would be SORTA O.K if they ever had bundles, sales, anything.

Their idea of a "sale" is selling you 60 packs for 60 bucks instead of 70. Fucking Jews. Not even Christmas is sacred enough for HS to have half prices or something.

>>150704035
But aggro's half the reason Warrior and F.Mage are so good, to begin with. If you didn't need to fight aggro with aggro, you could actually make decks that fight tier 1 control decks.

>>150704150
Hearthpwn and Reddit and all these dicksucking contest websites don't matter. They are just glorified Blizzshills.

>>150703749
Aggro will never be nerfed. Blizzard intentionally keeps aggro overpowered to keep the average Hearthstone game short and mindless.

>>150704150
I see a whining comment on every page of an announced card on Hearthpwn, what are you saying?

>>150704298
It's common sense, game's marketed as a mobile game. Nobody wants to play ebin fatigue games while they're taking a dump. It's a card game that appeals to the lowest common denominator.

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>>150704584
I play on phone 98% of the time and I never play aggro.

>>150694010
Fuck you, dumb ass weeb.

>>150704675
What class/deck

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>never bought most of BRM because dragon decks were always just a meme
>a dragon deck is finally legit
>refuse to buy the rest of BRM because it's only going to be around for half a year
>karazhan has more dragon synergy cards
>tfw you well never have a dragon deck

>>150704871
Honestly since it's dustable, you can make like 2k dust off it once it rotates out, it's not that awful.

>>150703279
Fuck you anon, I was agreeing with you. That cards needs to be a thing, 30 Health is just too little nowadays.

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I honestly don't know what deck to play anymore. I'm trying to go up the ladder without using any Warrior, Hunter, Shaman, or Warlock deck. Druid is my favorite class but I just lose lose lose to every deck I go up against. Whether it be C'Thun Druid or Yogg Druid I lose to the extreme amounts of warrior and hunter. I'm not sure if I just suck at the game or what. Any help? What deck should I play?

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>>150704692
Fuck you, dumb ass bully

>>150705151
Token/Yogg Druid is one of the better decks in the game, don't see the problem. It pisses on aggro.

>>150705429
also pisses on everything else
I feel most favored against druid when I'm playing aggro honestly

>>150705594
Control Warrior has a very favorable matchup against it. That's about the only non-aggro deck that's viable right now.

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>>150705594
Same, I feel like the deck is able to be tactics to the opponents play style more than any other deck atm

>>150705628
>

>>150705429
Token druid has an unfavorable matchup against aggro shaman, and to a lesser extent, zoo.

>>150705813
Don't respond to dumb, off topic weeb shit.

Just report and move on.

>>150705816
Citation needed on Zoo? Aside from Knife Juggler, Zoo crumbles hard against all the tokens and Swipe.

I could see Shaman being good against it, though.

>>150705884
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1osCVci8-7ttXp_CjWORzEUYf5VQlGWN_ZsOUrbCX0AI

>>150705813
*reactive

>>150705429
>>150705594
>>150705816
I think I'm going to just start playing tempo mage. Maybe even an aggro beast druid that I saw earlier. That or I just need to practice with my yogg druid. I didn't have this problem last season.

play a friend

N0Lif3#1614

NA

I'm glad this general hasn't turned into en erp weaboo tripfagging furry loving 'bullying' circlejerking fest yet. People actually still discuss the game related to the general, even if a portion of it is shitposting.

The weebs are trying hard to turn it into another /terag/ or /tosg/, though.

>>150706301
We report tripfags

>>150706265
YOU CAN HAVE NOLIFE AND POST THIS LIER. SO YOU HAVE LIFE BECAUSE YOU ARE ABLE TO POST THIS. Lif3#1614 added on EU cause if you are na you are already dead inside

>>150694010
>Shielded Minibot
>Tunnel Trogg

Absolutely fucking not.

>>150706301
we don't attract any of those crowds because our game only appeals to mostly autists who suffer through the RNG of this game and what blizzard throws at us.

Card games aren't exactly attractive to the "look at me please and give me attention" crowd.

MOBAs are where it's at for those people with mental illness

How do I tell my honourable father that my smokin' hot gorgeous 10/10 girlfriend has a feminine penis???

>>150706265
me

nobody has bitten yet. come and get your free 80g, faggots.

>>150706619
Move to EU and I'll do it.

So if "Netherspite Historian" exists, that means surely Netherspite is going to be a card right?

You can't be having the minions exist and not the boss as a card

Post a fucking EU play a friend before i get angry

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>>150694010
I'm glad that these cards are never going to be in standard again

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>>150706574
Tell him it's an oversized clit.

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Hey Ben should we buff some basic/classic cards that are unplayable to make them more interesting and give more variety to standard?
>No! Just print better versions cause we cant come up with new ideas. Oh, and dont forget to slap roll a dice and if its 1-3 you can slap a random effect in there

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>>150705015
WELL I'M SORRY

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>>150706619
Mission complete

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>no reason not to use 2 Ooze + Harrison in every deck now

>>150707108
>buff cards
No. Just... no. It's a terrible idea for loads of reasons.

>>150706683
There's Mimiron's Head and no Mimiron.

>>150707260
>No. Just... no.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tumblr

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>>150705151
I can't climb with anything that isn't Tier 1 anymore. Evolve Shaman got me to level 18 and that's it.

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>>150706758
Dont test me CHILDREN

>>150707260
Why not? It would make sense to buff cards that never see play so they can see play.

For example, Divine Spirit. Instead of

>Double a minion's Health

It could be:

>Double a minion's Health and give it Taunt.

>>150705151
I play C'Thun Druid and C'Thun/N'Zoth Warrior and got to rank 3 last season without changing the deck.
I think it's just a case of taking your time and not assuming the first plays you think of are the best, even if it looks obvious. That's how I got better, at least.

>>150707547
They said they want to keep the game alive for at least a decade. They will NEVER buff cards when they could "reprint" better versions of them.

>>150707260
t. brode

>>150704004
Bought one too few weeks ago

Got some preety good cards I think

And also my first planeswalker!

Too bad I only play with friends that I meet once or twice a year because I'm afraid of playing with strangers

>>150708058
go to your LGS. You will have a good time and you ll meet new people. Most of them are really friendly and will help you. Dont miss out on this because of social anxiety. Everytime i go to my LGS i have a great time

>priest can't choose how much mana to spend on forbidden shaping
really like having to summon a shitty 9 mana on turn 9 instead of a good 8 mana card and being unable to use forbidden shaping into power word shield without coin

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>>150708261

>>150708261
Deal with it, that's how Forbidden spells works. Sometimes in zoo you'd like to use hentai ritual first and Argus/Gormok later too, but I guess that little Priest is too busy stroking his own dick and complaining about LITERALLY everything rather than realizing that there's 8 (eight) more classes in the game

>>150708687
priest is the least played class in the game, they're constantly reminded of the other classes when theyre losing every game to them

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>>150708756
Only for the last 2 weeks.

>>150707547
No, it would not make sense, because it deletes the old version of the card. That should never happen. A card should never be removed from the game entirely. If it needs to be, it should be quarantined to Wild but never just deleted.

Every single buff or nerf that has ever happened has been a mistake. Once a card is printed it shouldn't be changed under any circumstance.

>>150708756
And I hope that this trend will keep up

>>150708261

wait until turn 10 then hero power before casting, retard

>>150708953
half the appeal behind an online card game is being able to balance cards

>>150708953

there should never be a strictly worse/better version of a card unless it's involves class cards

When's that stream today again?

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>>150709367
>watching brodeswildride instead of the magic pro tour

>>150709070
*insert generic excuses about technology and newer players being confused*

>>150709428
I don't even know that band

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>page 8
Thanks Ben

>>150709367
4am in my time zone

:(

I don't have Leeroy. Which is the better finisher for a Zoo deck, Doomguard or Reckless Rocketeer?

>>150710679
doom

>>150710679
I LL FIND YOU AND HUNT YOU DOWN

>>150709070
I fail to see how it's a good thing to delete cards rather than releasing new ones and relegating the old ones to non-competitive play. The latter situation has all the advantages of the former with none of the disadvantages.

Balancing should be done before the set is released.

Are we getting new cards in a couple of hours?

>>150710818
17 hours

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>50% of the new expansion is RNG "fun"
>50% unplayable trash

>Infested pupper
>Poundmaster
>Double Highmeme
>Call the wilds
>Skill Command

I should just stop playing control.

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> all this new removal and aoe clears
>thank god blizzard realises the problems of Hearthstone and actively works towards solving them

>>150710971

>3/2 taunt
>unplayable

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>>150711084
>wasting a slot on a 3/2 vanilla taunt

>>150710971
So the same shit as always, great!

>>150711198
thats an arena cards

common cheap taunt with occurence bonus will raise the arena quality significantly

>>150711198
>not seeing any value in a dumb 3/2 taunt in a dragon warrior meta
meme.png

>>150695127
What really killed Secret Paladin was the lack of Minibot, Shredder, and Boom

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>>150711535
>>150711357
>>150711198
>>150711082
>>150710971
>>150710485
>avatar fagging

Also

>he thinks the 1/1 wolf is playable

You're super retarded holy shit

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>>150711535
>secret paladin is dead

Well met!

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I see why people play Rogue. Burst 21 on turn 10, would have been 25 if Mill Rogue hadn't oracled my 2nd cold blood. Actually had fun/10

>>150711836
Hacked ;)

>>150711701
hows that report working out for you

>>150711836
Feelio when you get the scarlet crusader resurrect dream

@150712156
>wanting yugioh levels of power creep.
fuck off. buffing one of the best druid cards out there is so fucking stupid you don't even deserve a (you)

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>fucking my gf while she plays Hearthstone on my lap
Doesnt get better than this lads

>>150712398
>@
Are we twitch chat now where we use useless symbols that don't do anything?

>>150712513
So you wank with your right hand and play with your left or the other way around?

>>150712559
stay jelly anon

>>150712513
Does she know your homosexual?

>>150712156
Just make saplings gain +1 attack for every mana crystal you gain.
Fun and balanced because they stay at 1 health.

>>150712628
I dont own any homosexual anon. Slavery is illegal in my country

>>150712513
I guess this is a joke? If your girl can play on her phone while you're fucking her then your dick is terrible.

>>150712513
>tfw no crossdressing trap on my lap while he plays Hearthstone

me watch you play get win and get pack on north america server

jones#12508 NA

much thanks! in order to you, friend

Does BRM rotate out with the full release of Karazhan?

>>150713631
added on EU

I have a watch and learn quest on EU, please halp
mellanmjölk#2834

>>150713910
added on NA

>>150713631
okay nevermind! my quest is complete!

thank you friends!

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>Have worgen warrior down to 10 health, 3 fatigue.
>running taunts for the last 5 turns.
>he Emporered on turn 6.
>He's fatiguing for 4 turns now.
>Have lethal next turn
>BUT NO
>40 DAMAGE OUT THE ASS WITH ZERO BOARD
>FULL HEALTH TO 0 IN ONE TURN.

Flash nerf when/ how.

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>6 mana 1/7

>>150713910
quest is done, thanks everyone

>>150713803
6 months from now anon...

>still 16 hours until reveal stream

who thought this was ag ood diea

>>150714773
Just come and play ES: Legends with me, anon

Do you think everyone in the Hearthstone team secretly hates Brode?

>>150714839

No, I have 2 pvp wins in it and I don't want to ruin my 100% win streak

>>150714864

Why do you think he's always the only one sent out overseas while the rest of the team stays in the states?

>>150714839
ES:legends has pretty legit ideas
pve arena
two lanes on a board
card draw when losing health

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>tfw firelands portal is a common but medivh is a rare pepe.

Zeriyah is for __________

>>150715620
Cum dumpstering when she has make up on.

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What the fuck? I just got another one from this week's brawl pack. Why do these beasts love me?

>>150715620
that strange thing hanging out from her puss

>>150715620
cucking?

>>150715836
>having THREE copies of a legendary
>not disenchanting all three immediately
>waiting for Blizzard to change any cards of the classic set
>waiting for the beast to become viable

topkek

>>150715917
>>waiting for Blizzard to change any cards of the classic set
classic cards will be the only ones ever getting nerfed again because of standard

>>150715917
>disenchanting single legendaries

>>150715917
I also have 1800 or so dust. I'm not crafting shit until I think it's OCD perfect.

Man token druid plays exactly like miracle rogue, you set up wisps almost die then OTK the next turn

>If you kill your enemies, they win: the brawl

>>150716041
No conceal to prevent their death though.

>>150715836
THE BEASTS OBEY ME

>>150715917
>Not emperor discounting the Beast for OTK combos.

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Mage gutting when

Love how it's okay for this deck to constantly be top 3 because of all its targetted fucking undercosted spell damage but it's ok because "Patron is better, Shaman is better, Zoo is better"

yeah lmao fucking hillarious I love getting raped by spells all game with literally no minions and by the offchance you're winning they just drop yogg

absolute fucking cancer to play against and it's literally as braindead as a class can get, fuck mage shitters and fuck you

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>>150712513
>GF sucking my dick while I play anyfin paladin
>Get distracted and stop counting my win conditions
>turn 10 ACH for 8 whole damage as I bust a nut into loss streak back to rank 19

Jokes on you I fucking suck at the game anyways

>>150717153
Mage is not in top 3 and hasn't been for a while in tournaments and is still dropping on ladder.

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>>150715620
>zeriyah

More like Geriyatric you dumb fucking granny lover lomoa

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>>150717346
old women need fucking too
even when they try to act and look young

Free 80 gold
Waxcommon#1509

>>150717547
Added on the African server.

>>150717547
Added in the Antartica server

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>>150717454
Post feet.

>>150717626
>>150717674
fuck you, third worlders.

>>150717346
H-How old is she?

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>>150717696

>>150717547
Added on Geonosis

>>150717817
37-40

>Bane's fool
It is like they want aggro decks to be more cancerous

>>150691983
Isn't this exodia? Get a few lands, sol rings and a bunch of spell that cost 4 or less to smORC face, win the game.

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>druid portal is rare
Top kek

>>150718189
>Can't hit face.

It's like you can't read.

>>150718592
>Board control deck
>You can't get back board control because he cleared all your minions
>AOE are jackshit in HS

>>150718674
>AOE is jackshit in HS
yeah, if only spell damage + was a thing....

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>open Emrakul on prerelease and buy 2 more at 8€ each
>he is now worth 20€
>buy 3 packs to celebrate
>golden alextraza and golden faceless

>>150717547
Added on the lunar server

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What DANK cards will BEN "DUDELOL" Brode show us this evening?

literally can't wait I'm bored as fuck now
karazhan
WHEN
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>>150719281
10 mana summon a minion for every minion you've summoned warrior unique

>play secret paladin to shit on warriors in warriorstone
>Out of the last 30 games there were 6 warriors

Absolutely not rigged.

How many hours until stream again?

>>150719578
13 hrs 20 mins

>get good draws and completely steamroll 5 games
>get bad draws and lose three games in a row that just feel unfair

This is why I stopped playing assfaggots

>>150719714
that's what happens when the game is completely dominated by tempo, every comeback card is removed/nerfed and the game is dumbed down so much that the aggressor always dominates the defender

they made taunt a keyword when it's the default in every other game haha

>>150712895
Or maybe she's not a filthy casual like your gf.