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/dsg/+/bbg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General + Bloodborne General

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Linked the First Flame >>150520920

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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1st for buff the farron greatsword
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FC When?
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Were they right?
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4th for buff everything
http://pastebin.com/RDacg1z2
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I love greathammers.
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>>150568424
Dunno what to do with that sharp gem man.
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1.07
1.11

>fixed issues in certain areas allowing players to clip below the ground
>adjusted speed and recovery frames of straight sword class weapons
>adjusted speed and recovery frames of curved sword class weapons
>adjusted damage of straight sword class weapons
>adjusted damage of curved sword class weapons
>adjusted stamina consumption of ultra-great weapons
>adjusted speed and recovery of ultra-great weapons
>Armor defense provided adjusted according to their weight
>Armor poise value provided adjusted according to weight
>Wolf ring and variants now provide percentage based increase to poise value
>Yhorm's Greatshield now provide percentage based increase to poise value
>Lothric Knight Longspear now provide percentage based increase to poise value
>Increased stamina costs of action "roll" to 24 from 16
>Adjusted base damage provided by sorceries and reduced scaling damage accordingly
>FP now regenerates and regeneration rate is tied to Attunement stat
>Vitality stat now provides more weight
>Golden Winged Knights now have a chance of dropping Titanite Slabs
>Enemy placement changed for NG+ and NG++
>Players who have defeated Dragon Slayer Armor will now be able to purchase set at Handmaiden
>Players who have defeated Yhorm the Giant will now be able to purchase set at Handmaiden
>Silver Knight Weapons can now be purchased from Greirat after certain actions are taken
>Mound Makers no longer receive notification of Host of Ember's name, all Player characters appear purple to Mound Makers
>Mound Makers and signs now appear as white phantoms to host, if wearing a specific ring
>Sunlight Dark Spirits no longer able to damage other dark spirits,and cannot be damaged by other dark spirits
>Rosaria's Fingers now innately have effect of obscuring ring while invading
>Darkmoon Blades are automatically summoned when Aldrich Faithfuls invades,regardless of Host's covenant
>Normal Dark Spirits invade with Estus equal to that of Hosts

Coming Mid-August
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>>150568546
>copypasting the same thing but changing 1.10 to 1.11 when he was called out for it

Whatever, keep trying.
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>Darklurker
>laughably easy phase 1
>phase 2

Fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU
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>dsg + bbg
the fuck
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>>150568449
Guy who talked about simple and blessed before. I looked up and seems the scalings are the same, but simple gets more AR because split damage, unsure how weaker it is. Still thinking that allowing it to regen more FP for some would be better as right now it only really helps in very long fights.
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>>150568736

You forgot your meds today. That there is straight from Memeazaki himself.
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>>150568802
But that's part of the fun! He's one of the best bosses in the base game.
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>>150568546
>implying we're going to see any patch whatsoever before the DLC drops
Give it up, we've been abandoned until they can milk more shekels from us.
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>>150568972
There's a /dsgg/ now, we must be more different from them.
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>>150569062
Oh, don't get me wrong; it's nice to see Armored Core as a boss and it's good to see what happened to the Chosen Undead but holy fuck is it hard to focus them down
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POST CUTE AND HAPPY THINGS PLEASE
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ded gaem
ded thred
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>>150567601
Stormruler is usable.

It just isn't very good.
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>>150568546
I would cum buckets for all of this

Not even 1% of that It is happening
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>>150569263
>1000 damage
Not bad
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>>150569167
they were suppose to change the thread name
we can just go to them and shitpost until they fuck off,we were here first not their gay anime shit
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>>150568546
>>Sunlight Dark Spirits no longer able to damage other dark spirits,and cannot be damaged by other dark spirits

What

Why?

How does this make any sense

Why would you remove the ability to duel as a sunfag
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>>150569440
Sunbros don't deserve human rights.
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>>150569440
I'd assume signs summoned would work different to invasion orbs
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>>150569440
Duels are less important than invasions.
They're less important than everything else and should be shafted accordingly.
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>>150569353
I wouldn't mind it scaling with luck though.
Luck needs more shit.
Hollow quality builds are pretty shitty when compared to quality builds that dump those points in VIT instead of luck.
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>>150569440
>duelfags crying about a hypothetical scenario where they can't glow like hot garbage in a PvE oriented game

Is there a more pathetic group of sub-humans?
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What's ur favourite ending? I like lord of hollows and hope we see DLC on it
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Why the fuck is folowing NPC questlines so goddamn hard in this game? you shouldn't need a wiki
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>>150570460
>DeS
Superhero ending
>DaS
Darklurker ending
>DaSII
Wanderer ending
>BB
Kid now, squid now ending
>DaSIII
Lord of the Hollows
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>>150570460
They all suck.
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>>150569403
This tbqh
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Anyone else hates parrying in pvp? Is such a retarded mechanic
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>>150570889
i hate parrying and getting parried

it's incredibly unsatisfying to deal 50-75% of your opponents HP with nothing but luck
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>>150570889
I don't mind it until my 2 ton FUGS gets parried by a leather knuckle.
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So does everyone above sl110~ have 99 in every stats or is it a meme ?
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>>150571075
why don't they make it so only medium shields and the farron greatsword can parry greatweapons
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So why did Leonhard mutilate his mother?
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>>150569932
Now that I think about it I havent used a katana ever in ds3 despite it being a part of my first ds1 "build." Whats the best out of them? Should I go full dex or hollow/luck?
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>>150571295
Dex fags trying to keep the STR man down.
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>>150571208
Not everyone, but a good 50% of the people you encounter at pontiffs at meta SL will
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>>150571493
60 dex for chaos blade.
27/40/30 Hollow quality for Washing Pole, Uchigatana or Black Blade.
Bloodlust and Darkdrift can't be infused, so hollow isn't an option, but they're so shit that they aren't worth using anyways.
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Remember that period of time back before Dark Souls 2's major balance changes?

Remember when ultra greatswords did half damage if you connected with the outer half of the blade?
Remember when many fan favorite weapons like Iron King hammer had 50% less scaling?
Remember when stamina usage was generally ridiculous before it got reduced?
Remember when katanas and straight swords absolutely dominated and you never saw anything else before their huge nerfs?
Remember how STR in the end was the best build with loads of fun, varied, and viable weapons?

When is it going to be STR's time in Dark Souls 3?
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>>150571514
So that's why sometime i deal abysmal damage and get killed in two hits with 44 vigor
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>>150571675
>When is it going to be STR's time in Dark Souls 3?
DLC of course.
Same as with BB and its heavy abyssals.
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>>150569217
Cute!
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>>150571675
I remember this
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Queelag is cute. I can't hit her with my pyromancies.

It makes sense. I died but this time I know her shit.
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>>150569217
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>>150571140
>breaking your arm every time you parry
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>>150571880
And they didn't just nerf avelyn, they made it useless alongside all crossbows. Literally you died tier. The only good thing that came out from entire class is sanctum crossbow and it basically had a dark orb only retard couldn't roll through.
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>>150571883
>giant fire-breathing spider
>"Oh I know, I'll hit it with fire attacks!"
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>>150571686
>>150571654
Gonna go Luck since according to mugen it does pretty much the same damage maybe 10 ar less. Probably use washing pole since it was my first favorite weapon in ds1.

Man those were the days, dueling with an occult washing pole and offhand lightning avelyn in the forest.
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>>150571883
Stay in her face, you'll do fine. She's not hard as long as you avoid the aoe and super stab.
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>>150571493

I really like the Black Blade for its 1HR2s. Chaos Blade is good on pure dex but is completely shut down by a 100% defense shield. Washing Pole is a meme of sorts but probably the most effective if you're a true master of it and don't just spam running R1s. Honestly Katanas in 3 get a bad rap from people sometimes but I don't get why, they're pretty much the worst of the 'fast weapon' classes if you don't count Axes and Hammers since they have slower R1s compared to Straight/Curved/Thrusting Swords and debatable R2s with Ar that is also lacking in comparison without the absurd counter damage modifier they had in 2. Really the only thing of note is the running stab, and the Washing Pole is the only katana long enough to actually make that attack annoying.
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>>150571883
Best tits in the game, don't let people say otherwise
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>>150572048
>STILL FUCKING MAD 3 YEARS LATER
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>>150568424
I hit the doggies on the nose with my greataxe
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>>150571883
They way you structured that post disturbs me for some reason.

Are you autistic?
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>>150571675
>Remember when katanas and straight swords absolutely dominated and you never saw anything else before their huge nerfs
you mean after the balance patch that nerfed heavy armor into the ground and casting was killed and helixadon went extinct and Buffed MLGS was patched and monscim and...
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>>150571675
I don't think there was ever a point where straightswords and katanas were the top tier weapons until robflynn became a thing.
Every fotm meta completely outclassed them

DaS2 in its unbalanced state still had fun strength things like the greataxe turbo powerstance, greataxe 3-hit combos, greatsword 4-hit combos, greathammer X->R2 combos, resonant blacksword and greatsword + lance combos that could crush bad players mindlessly following fotm meta.

And it had silly, fun metas like powerstanced avelyns, santier's spear, syan's halberd, and MLGS. Name a single, one single weapon in DaS3's top-tier meta that has a unique moveset.
You can't, because in the time it took DaS2 to go through like 6 radically different metas with an array of radically different, diverse and varied unique weapons, DaS3 has remained completely unchanged from the no-fun-allowed Carthus curved sword and washing pole running R1 spam.
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>>150569217
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Where do you lads think the DLC entrance'll be?

I bet it'll be somewhere in Road of Sacrifices, being that the entire location is completely single-player only with no explanation as to why this is.

Corvian DLC confirmed.
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>>150572553
>I don't think there was ever a point where straightswords and katanas were the top tier weapons until robflynn became a thing.
Resonant chaos blade was a meta since day one matey.
>avelyns, santier's spear, syan's halberd, and MLGS
none of those had a unique moveset with the exception of mlgs r2
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What's some good farming music, dsg?

Also, anyone on ps4 want a silver knight set?
I have a few spares.
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I'm playing dark souls 2, the dx9 version. Can I safely use cheat engine to give myself a sun sword? I need 18 sun tokens but this game is dead except for the duel arena. I really just want the sun sword.
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>Godrick stomping everyone while I buff and heal him

Is there anything strong enough to defeat the almighty buffed Hodrick?
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>>150572617
DLC entrance will be a lazy extra warp section added to the shrine bonfire

You can screencap this post. I know I'm right. You do too.
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>>150572553
>Name a single, one single weapon in DaS3's top-tier meta that has a unique moveset.
onigiri
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>>150572824
Will I lose my save if I do this?
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>>150572553
Katanas used to be able to do sicknasty 360 tracking running attacks that would hit you no matter where you were
Straight swords used to be about 1.5x as fast and their running attacks were dagger speed
They were extremely meta as FUCK in early DaS2

>Name a single, one single weapon in DaS3's top-tier meta that has a unique moveset.
Longsword, Estoc, Warped Sword, Blacksteel Katana
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>>150572810
I farmed 6 million souls from them getting that fucking miracle.

Not joking.
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>>150572617
I'm betting Cathedral of the Deep and Profaned Capital.

The Cathedral is a fucking huge area with very little going on. It's kind of screaming for some of that negative space to be put to use. Plus it has an inaccessible area visible from the balcony with the Saint's Bident, and since we know that development of the dlc began befpre the main game was finished, it's very likely it was cut to be used as dlc fodder.

And the Profaned Capital has that broken bridge that overlooks a completely pitch black chasm of nothing, with a worthless item pickup left at the edge to lure you out there. It feels like a blatant gotcha moment, except nothing gets ya. I'm expecting it'll be a DaS1 kind of thing where you'll go to that ledge with the key item in your inventory and a shadowy limb will reach up from below and drag you down.
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>>150572053
That's a.. Very fair point, actually.

>>150572242
Hell, probably. Either that or I'm english.

Also, I had no idea she had a body explosion. fucking hell.
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>>150573019
>DaS3
welp, I fucked up there

>>150572770
>santier's spear
>not unique
M8
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>>150573127

>Also, I had no idea she had a body explosion. fucking hell.

The tell for that is when she hugs the 'head' of the spider, when she does that she's about to do the AoE.
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>>150572932
This anon is right.

You buy the DLC

You go in game

New NPC hanging out in the shrine by the bonfire, you talk to him, he gives you thing.

Sit at bonfire, new warp location.
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>>150572770
>none of those had a unique moveset
kek, I love it when people whop never actually played the game try to argue about it.
Fresh from /v/, I guess?

You really ought to try 2. It's not nearly as bad as they told you
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>>150573067
I started with about 900k and now I have almost 7 mil. I lucked out and got summoned twice, but one of the hosts was a dumb so I only got two concords.

Man I sure do love farming.
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>>150572824
>>150572824
anyone??
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>doing some Cathedral of the Deep pvp
>doing pretty well with my Flamberge, winning even against twink meta retards with Gotthards
>decide to continue playing
>random invasion
>guy with a fucking pickaxe
>absolutely destroys me

What just happened
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>>150572053
If Gwyn is weak to fire, anything can happen
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>>150569217
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>>150573215
Not even. The key will magically appear in your inventory when you turn on the game and provoke a single new line of dialogue from the firekeeper, telling you to sit at the bonfire and be taken to the land of the ancient X, Xric. Cue new area listed on the bonfire warp menu and a single bonfire to warp to, a la High Wall.
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can someone who's really good at this game stream duels or invasions? so we lesser folk can get better

I know there's a lot of good players in this thread. you always brag about beating pontiff scrubs.
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>>150572932
It's sad because it's true
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>>150573215
Yeah. Probably.

Are you just saying these things so you'll end up pleasantly surprised if it actually doesn't turn out this way?

ALSO, can I get a hand with Dancer on PC? Free souls for you
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>>150572770
>none of those had a unique moveset
fucking retard
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>>150573335

Leo Ring Pickaxe does decent damage despite the Pickaxe's relatively low base damage for a Great Hammer. It has short as fuck range though and the most predictable moveset so you were probably just bad.
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How do I level up hollowing faster? Jumping off of undead settlement only gives me 1 per death
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>>150573267
I got summoned into a pontif invasion

There were 3 aldritches and 2 reds

I killed 2 aldritches and one red.

I only got a single concord reward, from the red for some reason.

Fucking pissed me off
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>>150573215
>New NPC hanging out in the shrine by the bonfire, you talk to him, he gives you thing

Nope

Item behind Andre
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>>150568802
Double Pursuers are harder
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>>150573405
This, but just cause I want to see streams in general.

I've got to say, DS3 is tearing me a new one. I didn't have this much trouble in DaS.
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>>150573530
jesus christ

thanks for reminding me that das3 is the most depressing fucking souls game

all this just confirms that the DLC is going to be an enormous fucking town in Catarina with nothing but fun minigames and happy shit everywhere.
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>>150573514
Level up more at yoel, you get 1 point of hollowing per dark sigil on death.
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>>150573530
>tfw never did any questlines so no blood on my hands except for hawkwood who I killed for his souls after the tutorial
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>>150573514

Take more dark sigils between deaths from Yoel. The amount of hollowing you get per death is equal to the dark sigils you have.
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>>150573335
Pickaxe is not a joke weapon in 3.
Its 2H moveset is a greataxe, but with thrust damage and leocounter potential. It will out-trade most ultras and has HA every bit as strong as them. People easily forget that greataxes are basically as fast as halberds and are equally as difficult to play around so long as they have stamina to spare. You can out-space the pickaxe because its reach is dick, but if you don't realize it isn't the stupid joke weapon it was in 2, you can get fucked pretty easily.
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>>150573514
Once you get to a certain point it will do 2 per death, then 3, and so on.
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>>150573572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfo_sbhI5oY
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>>150573514
Hollowing doubles each time you level up from Yoel
>Jump off once
>Level up
>Jump off again
>Hollowing is now two
>Level up
>Jump off again
>etc
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>>150573521
I've been wondering what the deal is with that area behind him. There's a darkened rectangle section that looks like a secret staircase should open up.

I honestly expected the final boss to be Andre pushing his desk to the back of the room and revealing the staircase down to cinder man, who was also Solaire.

The actual ending was so deflating to me in comparison. The Dark Firelink etc, I really thought it was going somewhere. ugh

>There's no alternate event series that happens by placing the lord souls on the dark firelink throne
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>>150573674
>>150573708
>>150573720
Thanks
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>>150573718
>greataxes are basically as fast as halberds

People keep saying this. It's just not true.
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>>150572617
The big coffin tree at gundyr.
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>>150573889
It is. Halberds are obviously the faster of the 2, but the difference is very small

Greataxe users just tend to be afraid to swing because their weapon actually has recovery, and because it takes almost 100 stamina to swing once. Halberds can abuse their speed thanks to the fact that they can literally walk out of the animation the second it touches the ground, and can swing 3 times for every single R1 from a greataxe.
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>>150573530
But I saved Karla and didn't get Greirat killed. Hawkwood is a faggot so I don't really care about him, Heysal tried to kill me twice, and the others I either didn't care for or were cunts
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>>150573662
It would be pretty interesting to have an environment that's more "fresh" than the standard Souls fare, like a recently sacked city, or maybe a battlefield that only just ended, something like that. Due to the nature of the game, I don't think we'll ever see a completely populated and non-fucked up city or town.

Inclement weather in environments is always welcome, as well.
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>>150574393
Maybe it'll go full Fallout in terms of story. Completely populated non fucked up town under attack from evil forces to the north. Lone adventurer strolls in one day, charges in, clears 4 dungeons and defeats 5 bosses, walks out a bloody hero, unlocks some special weapons
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How often are you guys embered up in DS3? I just started and while it seems nice, I'm not sure how often I should do it seeing as I might die a lot and waste it.
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>>150574872
on my sunbro co-op character I have just under 400 embers

im embered 100% of the time most of the time
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>>150574872
I didn't ember for my first playthrough since I knew I wasn't going to summon anyone and I'd probably die to bosses anyways.
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>>150574872
I popped an ember every death and ended up still having 20-some by the end of my first playthrough.

The game throws plenty at you, you don't have to be sparing with them. Even if you died a whole tonne and wasted them all, you can get more easily by invading or co-oping.
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>>150574872
If you're ever worried about running out of embers, just do some co-op. When you beat the boss for another person, it'll auto-ember you when you come back, and it'll give you a spare ember for your troubles.
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>>150574130
Not only that but most halberds will outrange any greataxe that isn't Yhorms.

Also they have better, more varied movesets, while greataxes have telegraphed overhead attacks in every move

Also they have an useful rolling attack, while GAs have that useless ground plant that only worked in DeS.

Also their running attacks usually catches people, have great range and lingering hitboxes, while GAs don't.

Also the damage difference is minimal, and a halberd will land the second hit more often than a GA, outdamaging them in the end.

Also most halberds have WA way more useful than war cry that not only lasts nothing, it wears off other buffs.

Also they weight a lot less and thus require less vit investment that can go into damage, health and stamina

Do I need to go on?
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>>150573405
Just look for twitch streams or some shit. You don't need us.
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>>150574872
I'm usually embered for the health bonus, I just wish there was a way to get rid of the effect with out using a ring slot
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>>150574872
When you find an ember in the game world, it's usually the game giving you a VERY STRONG nudge to use it right there for particular reasons. It's very hard to run out of embers.
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>>150573405
/dsg/ is shit, absolute garbage

the people who claim they are good are metashitters just like the e-celebs they talk shit about. never listen to this thread.
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Hows the caestus for Pve? Recommended builds/tips for it?
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>>150575291
On one hand, halberds being so good sucks, because anything good gets used always and forever.

On the other hand, it pleases my history boner that halberds are finally good enough that everyone wants to use some kind of polearm as a primary.

I am conflicted.
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>>150575712
It's not halberds that are good or overpowered. They are fine.

It's great weapons that suck
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>>150575791
This.
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>>150575712

Overhead 2HR1 halberds are honestly the best general weapon class imo, the HA starts so fast and their attacks have so little recovery frames compared to DaS1 and 2 that they are just almost unbeatable in the hands of a player that knows how to use them properly.'

But really the problem is more the high viability chasm between low-tier weapons, ok weapons, and genuinely great ones.
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>>150575791
The fact that they have windup animations is dumb shit.

They should just attack, not announce an attack like a retard for everyone to punish.

They need to bring move cancelling back again, but make it less glitchy. Pressing Cross/A during an attack, even midswing will cause you to just lower it back to your shoulder and fake out the attack, the stamina only is used on an actual confirmed swing, not for faking out.

STR weapons need mindgames like they do in real life. No one runs at someone with a baseball bat and follows through. They run at them and psyche them out with feigned hits to throw off their guard and anticipation.

STR weapons need it. They NEED it.
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>>150576132
>Pressing Cross/A
>Cross
This bothers my autism.

The best trick I've seen with great weapons is using a bundle in between swings; It delays the second swing by enough frames to roll catch someone if they're not paying attention.
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>>150576497
I may have to try that, that sounds interesting
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>>150576570
Works great for countering roll stabs too, since the bundle turns your model without any animation. I know it works great with ultra swords, but I haven't tried it with hammers or axes.
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>Chaos Armadyl Godsword
>Dark Corvian Greatscythe
>Dark Winged Spear
>Witch's Locks
>Demon's Greataxe
>Demon's Fists
>Old Demon King Greathammer

That about covers it for all of the viable pyro weapons yeah?
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>DS2 Arenas
NOT
EVEN
ONCE
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>>150577402
What the fuck is this shitty list
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>>150577402

Those last three are just STR weapons with some pyro scaling.
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>>150577402
You forgot about the hand a half sword.
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>>150577402
Pyro buffed raw drang hammers is my current fav
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>>150577402
>Demon's Greataxe
>ODK Greathammer
>viable
No.
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>>150577676
Is raw really better for it than other phys infusions without the stats?
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>>150577889
I dunno I haven't really checked, probably not
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>spend hours of my life making a simple maneater build
>butcher's knife is complete shit
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>>150577889
>is the infusion that removes scaling better than the ones that increase scalings if you didn't level thise stats?

Think carefully
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>>150578035
Sometimes the stats you have are enough, but I wager he might have gained like 20-40 AR with the base stats for that weapon. I was just curious since refined is pretty good
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a-anyone wanna help me meticulously full-clear smouldering lake on pc ;-;

just put your signatures by the abandoned tomb bonfire

ill love you forever
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Dancers swords yes/no?
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>>150579316

Yes on a quality build, though the moveset and lack of range makes them mediocre usually.
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>>150579036
You forgot Yoel.
Also Anri, Horace, Orbeck, Parry King,Siegward Yuria and Firekeeper because I'm doing best end
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>>150579216
pass?
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>>150579528
you don't have to ask, you already know it

i feel like there should be a disclaimer for all passwords in the OP to be default "dsg" unless specified otherwise
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>>150579413
How would I allocate points for them? 40 in Dex and along with 35 in int and faith?
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>>150579750
He just said quality. As far as I know, her scalings are Dex > Str > Int > Fth
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>>150579750

Just quality, the fire and magic damage on Dancer's scales with STR/DEX and not just INT/FAI.
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>>150579903
>>150579953
Oh ok
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>trying to fight the DSA with a darkhand
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>>150578023
You could always use a machete :^)
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>Vaati can't even be asked to pretend he's coming up with his own ideas anymore

Christ. All his videos on DaS3 so far have been things everyone else figured out within two weeks of release and he's taken this goddamn long to make meandering, directionless videos about them.

I don't give a shit if he has to speculate random nonsense to make something I haven't heard before, so long as it's not something everyone already knew.
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>>150580369
Why are you wasting your time watching bad videos you don't like?
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>>150580501
Back when I was a wee bab playing DaS1 for the first time I thought his videos were amazing.
Then I started actually paying attention to the games myself and realized he was doing nothing special whatsoever.
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>>150580369
Giving him views us like giving (you)s to a poster, you're no better than him.
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>>150580714
It's even worse since they actually make money off you watching them. That's the business model, each pageview is money, the more views, the more they make.

Imagine if someone could make a living wage off of getting (You)s. What kind of posts do you think they would make, to maximize the amount of (You)s they got, an ensure people are always responding to them? That's basically what being an e-celeb is like. It's monetized shitposting.
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>>150568530
Lothric K***ht Long Spear
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>ricards rapier + pontiff right eye ring + carthus beacon + any buff + weapon art
holy shit
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>>150581382
try offhand OWCS
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>Taking forever to invade because people keep pulling the plug
wtf man, just stop playing embered or go offline if you don't want to be invaded, or even better, stop playing the fucking game you casual
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>>150580369
>Using the V word still

I forgot he even existed, and many would too if you shut up about him.
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Alright boh, put your sign in front of the demon king fog door

We /full estus/ now
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>>150581478
What SL? Come find me at catacombs, playing hide and seek.
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>>150581436
does it do 1500+ damage on weapon art?
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>finally FINALLY get summoned as DMB
>instantly ''connection error has occured returning to your world"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>150573662
Not gonna lie, I prefered the cozy as fuck Majula. People are always going on about "must be edgy and lonesome journey", but I can never get into that shit. Especially with bonfires 2 feet from each other the entire game.
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>>150568802
>when you kill darklurker but you die from a stray attack right as he does
>twice
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>>150581786
easily
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>>150568802
I hope he shows up in the Angels DLC.
It would be really easy to connect him to P Sully.
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Can bosses be cheesed with a bleed build?
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>>150581673
I'm 120, u still in thar?
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>>150582223

Every boss except Wolnir, Demon King, and Dragonslayer Armor. I'm not sure about Yhorm.
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>>150582321
Yhorm can't be bled either, but he has his own built-in cheese.
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>Dirty ToD faggot summoning endless phantoms
>Me and a random red bro finally kick his ass
>Do a synchronized point down at the end
There truly is no better feeling than this
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Hey Boh, thanks for you help in smouldering lake

I hope you enjoyed Tsorig fighting Tsorig
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>>150582295
Sorry, I'm too low for you. SL 40 I'm here for two more hours or until I get bored.
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I've been invaded twice on my dark hand run, both times by faggots using the carthus curved sword
Both of them unironically lost 1v1 to a dark hand.

This is the state of invaders.
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>>150582501
Rats. Have you gotten a lot of traffic?
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>>150582547
I see the ganks didn't do their job of filtering the shitters properly. No worries, I'm contacting From
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>>150582438
>bragging about ganking

/dsg/
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>>150582547

Did you record that? I'm unsure how anyone can lose to a Dark Hand, let alone with a Card Captor.
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>>150582547
What kinda build are you running?
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>>150582647
Average. It's just a solo seeded + WoB. Had a red stick around to kill three of them, I'd say it takes 10-20 minutes between invades.
I could hop into my 120 and run sone areas waiting for you, but the defeats the point. Where are you invading?
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>>150582841
Nigga what? I was invading with one (1) other phantom, whilst the host summoned 4 over the course of the fight.
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>>150583084
Yeah you don't have to do that- I'm just invading post pontiff, but there have been much less DC's after my first post. Tryin ter get those embers because there are no active players for any bosses I have open
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Where is Grandmaster Kakyoin? His elite posting is what this general needs to be great again.
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>>150582438
A better feeling is when he dried fingers to summon even more phantoms and this ends up happening
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>>150583335
Just find LKs to kill if that's your concern. Or invade as a sunbro at least
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>>150582850
No, I couldn't run capture software on my toaster and still have a playable FPS. The first guy just kept eating running attacks and walking into R1s like he didn't know the range of his own weapon. He ran off to rouge it at one point and chugged a couple estus but he was the kind of bad you only hear about in legends so it didn't even matter.

2nd guy spent the fight parryfishing and got kissed for it.

>>150582952
Not a very good 1. I have 1k health while embered and negative ABS thanks to the dark clutch ring. All my points went into int/fth. I just needed to do a playthrough to do the all gestures trophy and figured I'd make it interesting for myself.
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>>150582547
Post build
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PC FC WHEN?
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>>150583645
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>>150583527
>3 reds

How?
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>>150583594
Christ, I've had enough LK farming, and its more of a "I don't want to run out of embers doing dried finger runs" sort of thing. It's a shame there isn't like a "if you kill x phantoms, you get an ember", although that'd probably encourage ganking even more
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>>150583980
Not sure, but my guess was I and another finger invaded him, killed one of his phantoms, and when he ran around like crazy summoning whoever he could, he accidentally summoned a hostile sunbro through a duel sign
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Why is deprived the best starting class?
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>>150575291
>while GAs have that useless ground plant that only worked in DeS.

The ground pound was also awesome in DS1 because it was unparryable and pretty fast.

It was given to greathammers, though, which makes a lot more fucking sense than how they have it now. They swapped the greathammer and greataxe rolling attacks for some unknowable reason and both look retarded. Now what you do is you slam the haft of the bladed weapon pointlessly into the ground instead of swinging it around in a way where the blade would actually make contact with your target, and the giant blunt clubs that don't need to hit edge-on use the 360 swing the greataxes used to use even though the ground-pound would fit in perfectly.

Goddamn this rankles my autism.
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ALRIGHT FAGS, IT'S TIME FOR THE OFFICIAL /dsg/ OLD WOLF OF FARRON BRIDGE PC FC

GET YOUR FAGGOTY ASSES UP HERE YOU STUPID NIGGERS
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>>150583665
Thank you Grandmaster. Doing God's work.
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>>150584293
Kakyoinnnnnnnn!
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>>150584293
>that image
Nice idea
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DEAR GOD PLEASE HURRY THE FUCK UP IM SCARED
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Holy fuck, I never realized how bad Caitha's Chime is.
It has a grand total of 3 spellbuff higher than the sunless talisman at 40fth/30int. Why would you ever use this thing?
>>
I feel bad for sending Greirat to his final doom, but fuck, it's so much more convenient to have all consumables at one merchant.

It's also why Patches dies too, but I don't feel so bad about that.
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>>150584685
coming
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So I got my Great Machete build all the way to Anor Londo and got bored of it

Then I got my Bleed Rapier build all the way to the Dancer and got bored/frustrated with it

These have been my only two DS3 builds so far.

What should I do next, and also suggest a name.
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>>150584770
Nevermind it's all good

we /safe/

Also, put your signs on the platform right there, if you don't already know by now
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>>150584293
I'm scared of showing how bad I am.
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>>150584851
I'll be there as soon as I kill this fucking seeding slut faggot
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>>150584880
Don't worry, there will always be someone worse than you
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>>150584846
please suggestions

i guess i should do magic of some sort
maybe pyromancy
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>>150584880
you can come
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Boh you dumb fat angel come here and get your present for helping me with my pyro in SL

>>150585798
please stop bullying me, jojoposter
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>>150584846
>>150585253
one last pathetic request

at least name my pyromancer
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>>150585798
its ok if ur nervous bout joinin or w.e. I see you post alot and you seem like a funny guy, you should join!
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>>150586184
>and then stomp them
and this is how we know you are trying to sound cool. trying, and failing.
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>>150585798
kakyoin why are you so tsundere for pcfcs
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Is there any hope the dlc will redeem this piece of shit
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this is spooky as fuck man
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Who wants to help me beat Nameless King? I fucking suck at this game. PS4.
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8 hours, 10 million souls, 900 shards, and 100 full sets of silver knight armor later, I finally have my trophy.

Never again.
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>>150586379
what is that sword?

>>150586434
what were you looking for?
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>>150586434
>10 million souls
>silver knights

are you aware that you killed 4000 knights at 2500 souls each

or are you on like NG+7
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Does anyone have that webm of Champion Gundyr teleporting all around as soon as the guy enters the fog door?
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>>150586434
I will laugh my ass off at Darkmoons if From create a higher tier of covenant rewards with the DLC
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Name a shield more stylish than the £2 coin.
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>>150586559
'tis the Fume Ultra Greatsword, a most formidable weapon, fellow /dsg/men!

As for the item the man was massacring Silver Knights for, I could very easily presume he was searching for the Darkmoon and Blue Sentinel covenant items in order to obtain the final spell and ring.
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>>150586361
but if they didn't exist, you wouldn't get the enjoyment of going to them
>>
Threadly reminder

Ignore Kakyoin poster

Do not talk to Kakyoin poster

Do not encourage Kakyoin poster
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i don't know why but that urge was so hard to resist vincent

im so sorry
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>>150586559
Darkmoon Blade, easily the most tedious spell to get.

>>150586564
NG+ so they gave 11250 souls each.
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>>150586939
but Kakyoin poster is love. Kakyoin poster is life
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I did it, I'm done.
Goodbye.
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>>150587841
Did you run off to hide? I'll find you.
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>Get summoned into a world
>Greet host, we do a bunch of gestures
>He's just running around the bonfire attacking or gesturing or doing whatever instead of moving forward, and every time I start leaving he just stays near the bonfire, so I just stand around until he makes a motion to get going
>This goes on for like 13 minutes, with no one else being summoned
>"You have been sent home by the host"
???
I don't understand what the fuck people are trying to do in this game sometimes
>>
>ladder at crucifixion woods to farron keep
>invader on it
>he's waiting near the top so he can stagger me of
>slide down ladder onto him while pressing R2 so I can kick him off
>the kicks don't do shit
Was I just not pressing buttons fast enoughhow does close ladder combat work?
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>>150587971
he ronry
>>
what if parry attempts could be parried?
>>
I miss my /dsg/ FC safe space with no meta weapons and more bf's... Oh well, more practice
>>
the reinforced club r2 has some pretty good hyper armor
>>
>the best counter to everything is to play passive
They nerfed shields, now they just have to fix rolling stamina cost
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>>150588432
>parry spammer complaining about getting parried
lol
>>
so, I'm on my first playthrough of ds1, playing on the pc and i can't fucking deal with artorias. can someone help me out? SL 70
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>>150588697
I'm using an AGS dude, it's not even that strong compared to other shit
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>>150588237
Maybe then people won't try to parry 6 times in a row.
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>>150588768
>I'm only using a weapon I've got thousands of hours of experience with

You might as well be rocking the claymore and chaos blade
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>>150588768
don't try and false ignorance to your bloodring twinswords
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>>150588716
even just some tips or advice would be nice please
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>>150588945
try naked
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I FUCKING DID IT I finally beat fume knight holy shit

where to now lads
>>
>>150588945
try mount
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>>150588768
>switches to gotthards
shore bud. I don't mind the meta weps personally (unless you are being a real bitch abou it), but ToD+blessed isn't really necessary at /dsg/ FC's
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>Dueling at pontiff
>getting my ass kicked pretty low on health
>somone invades, while im dueling he throws throwing knives at me an kills me
>as I fade away my opponent throws a throwing knife at the invader, cursing him instantly
whoa
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>>150589056
Sir Alonne
Blue Smeltie

Good luck!
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>>150588871
>>150588904
>>150588864
>>150589114
I attest to this, though as another anon said practice against meta shittery is nice.
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>>150588945
use havel's greatshield
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>>150589230
Oh not to mention the throwing knives.
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DEPRESSION DID IT THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

NO FP DEMON'S FIST NEW META
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>>150589438
>>150589401

>Depression beat Berke

Can Berke ever recover from this embarrassment?
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>>150588904
I don't use Bloodring, and the rolling L1 isn't even it's best move
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>10 kill streak in a FC
>Run out of Estus halfway through, start fights at 2/3rds health and still win

Let the bodies hit the...

FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>150589518
Yeah the best move is R1 from the fucking longest straightsword. Don't tell me there's something even better?
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>>150589401
Can someone explain to me in pleb what this means
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>>150589180
>Blue Smeltie
>Actually slogging through that shitty challenge area to reach a shitty rehash boss

Shippity doo wop.
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>>150588945
Try finger but hole
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>>150589701
I guess we shouldn't summon you either huh
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Thanks for shenangians as always host

Make sure to mark your calendars for August 4th to be forever known as Depression day
>>
Is that Wolf Ring actually doing anything for you?
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>>150589525
>DAMAGE CONTROL
>>
>Accidentally parry someones staff swing

Hehe
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>>150589928
I'm using it and it SEEMS to be making my AGS hyperarmor a bit more reliable, the WA still sucks though
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>>150589928
Not sure who you're talking at, but I definitely don't lose as many HA trades with it on- although somehow in one of my matches against Berke his 2 AGS swings beat out my FUGS 2HR1
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>>150590190
No, it's okay, you don't like our FCs so why should you care?
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>>150572863
the bunch of hollows in the near building kill him pretty much every NG
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>>150590254
>>150590236
nice
>>
>farming Charred Loyce Knights until they stop spawning, using item discovery gear
>get 22 Loyce Souls
>go into CoC and farm harder versions of them for same amount of time, with the same item discovery gear
>increase to 25 Loyce Souls
Something isn't right here.
>>
>>150589701
>go to pontiff's
>get people that heal, run off the ledge, or BC if they don't like you
>>
>playing DS1 for the first time
>I can only offer 1 humanity at a time to the covenant...

why...?

why can't I just dump a bunch of humanity at once...?
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>>150590514
You care because you want to "stomp" these FCs
But you cry when you get dominated anally by Berke


It's sad, isn't it Samuel
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>>150590680
Feeble Cursed one such as yourself wouldn't understand the magnificence of that mechanic
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>>150590680

I miss Demon's Souls, where we didn't have to deal with shitty covenants, there were just quests.

I mean, I think the steady decline of the permanence and meaning of covenants indicates that they were a shitty idea at the outset.
>>
>>150590715
>Samuel
>not Lucifer
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>>150588945
if you get away from him, he will do jump/two kinds of slide attacks. all of those can be avoided by rolling to your right and have long recovery, so it's save to hit him after that. after you attack, get away again. don't run away too far though, because it will be harder to stagger him out of his powerup
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>>150590916
Jojo poster you're that "starlight" something guy that was at the demon ruins FC a couple days back, and clearly you haven't been at an FC since
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>hurr i'm too afraid to approach so i'll chuck a bunch of throwing knives ;)
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>>150590916
There's no one more tryhard than Berke. You stop showing up and start complaining after losing to Berke.
You're always there when you're Kekyoin posting. You idle right during Kekyoin posting. Your periods of Kekyoin posting surging when not summoned.

Pretty sure it's you bub.
>>
All of us are Kakyoin.
>>
the jojoposter is depression

he's the only person that's attended every single FC ive ever hosted and is the only person that's attended every FC i've ever seen posted
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>>150591207

I don't give a shit about any of this stupid drama but that guy was shitting on Samuel yesterday so I'm pretty sure it wasn't him. Unless it's some 4d chess conspiracy to frame himself or whatever.
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>>150591067
I'm moving forward in 99% of my fights, if you're dumb enough to backpedal in a straight line, I'm going to hit you with them
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>>150591207
Kekyoin poster has it out for me, that's the only reason he posts whenever I'm around.
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>>150591307
>he knows the guys name is straylight and not "starlight"
IT'S YOU!

EVERYONE HE'S STRAYLIGHT
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>>150591574
>>150591574
That's just what he wants us to know, so he can become another le eceleb like lucifer without the negative repercussions of tripfagging
>>
Berke I just want you to know I almost bumbled that Thorns switch out, but it felt really good all the same.
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>>150591708
With that logic, wouldn't 212 be an eceleb without the negative repercussions of tripfagging?
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>>150591760
what i miss?
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>>150591356
Nah, Kekyoin says he's good and I openly acknowledge that I am a shitter

Sorry for being around so much, I'm just lonely
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>>150591760
I didn't expect that R2 into L1 setup, that was cool
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Why is it that no matter how many times i report that autistic piece of shit, the janitors won't do a goddamn thing?

do your jobs you incompetent cunts
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Drake i want you too know i was the one one to vote for you in the FC Host poll <3
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>I can't log in to the server

sdfadsfsadfasdfasfsadfasdfafsdafasdf
>>
>>150588441
When has From ever rewarded impatience? If you don't like playing the game, don't play it
>>
Help me out, /dsg/.

I making a Faith build and I really can't decide between Morne's Great Hammer or Dragonslayer Swordspear.

>inb4 faith is garbage
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>>150591987
what host poll?

what the hell did i miss
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Sorry you were floating around and I couldn't hit you, Crusader.
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>>150591878

The Drang Spears and any twin weapon are very good for R1/R2>L1 mix-ups imo.

Also that Gotthards vs. Greatlance fight went on disgustingly long I just wanna say.
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>Summoned failed due to time out x35061
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>>150592330
Yeah, that happens a lot where I'm constantly running after people and having them just back up/roll away constantly
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FC over ?
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>>150592258
Dragonslayer Swordspear is not a faith weapon. It has very shitty faith scaling. So does Dragonslayer Greataxe.

Morne's is fine but don't expect to PvP with it.

If you're pure faith you should just buff a raw dragonslayer greataxe or drakeblood greatsword or lothric knight greatsword.
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Alright lads, your hour is up.

Thanks for coming nerds.

first person with a location in a reply gets to choose tomorrow's FC

GL dudes.
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>>150592476
Thanks for hosting, cathedral of deep
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>>150592476
LOVE YOU THANKS4HOSTING
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>>150592512
Zombie pit it is then

See you nerds tomorrow ~6:00 pm mountain burger time
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>>150592410

I was using the Greatlance and attacking almost constantly save for rolling away from your attacks, are you really complaining about that?
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>>150592258

Do Fai/Luck and use Anri's Sword. It's a straight sword, so it's good, it's buffable, so that's good for faith, and it only really scales with Luck, so you only need to raise one stat aside from your Faith, and starting Cleric happens to be favorable for both aspects of the build.
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>>150592618
I guess he expects you to let him win by standing still, or running into him so he can hit you. While you're using a greatlance. Pfft.
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>>150592618
>>150592734
That's my point, there's no such thing as pressure or punishing an attack(unless you outrange the weapon), I was running at you constantly in between dodges, you were attacking constantly in between dodges, but neither of us were really doing any damage

It's a far cry from DaS1 where making someone do a 50/50 roll against a wall could result in a backstab or a rollcatch hit, rolls are just too fast and cover way too much ground in 3
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>flawlessly killed by a great lance

character deleted
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>>150592863
>quitting over dying to something once
how else are you going to learn?
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>>150592815

Your Gotthard R1s were actually pretty good at rollcatching my panic rolls, though I agree there's not enough pressure most weapons can do. With weapons as slow as the Greatlance especially (with no HA to boot) you can't punish rolls with how generous i-frames there are even when midrolling, let alone with Bloodring.

That's just how rolls are designed for PvE though, and I doubt they'll change it heavily unless they rebalancee PvE significantly though. The issue more I think is general weapon balance favoring a reactive playstyle, with anything slower then a Straight Sword not being able to effectively play aggressively at all.

>>150592863

To be fair to you I did kind of a dick combo at the end there after using the carving, good fight all the same.
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>>150592815
That's cause rolling is too easy with not much stamina loss. It sounded like you were complaining about the lance guy honestly, when you're adamant about trying to win yourself and would do the same when pressured;
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>>150586567
pls
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>>150593143

That could easily be a life. How do we know you aren't me?
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>>150593053
Straight sword movesets and most pokes are great for following rolls, but they rarely rarely hit

Bloodring overall really shouldn't exist

>>150593080
Who would complain about a fight that isn't bug abuse or absurdly unbalanced? He said himself it was "disgustingly long", I elaborated on that
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>>150593143
But I'm Depression
And I'm pure, stop calling me a slut
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>>150568546
This is too good to be true, and knowing From Software, a patch like this would highly be unlikely.
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>>150593326
>He said himself it was "disgustingly long", I elaborated on that

To be fair I said that more because I was surprised I was able to survive that long and get any damage off on you with what is the worst weapon in the game objectively speaking, but I don't begrudge your opinion.
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>tfw remembering that glorious patch before TOH came to Bloodborne

I really fucking hope that happens to DaS3.
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will someone list all of the fucking meta weapons please

i want to know who not to summon and/or who i should BC out

whenever i see gotthards i immediately BC
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>three generals combined into one

Holy shit guys do a global restart day or something cuz this is pathetic.
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>>150593638
any curved sword
any straight sword
any glaive
any halberd
any ultra
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Does anyone actually go to the /dsg/ steam group anymore?
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>>150593638

Gotthard's, Carthus Curved Sword and the Estoc+Greatshield are the top tier in just best weapons overall right now. Washing Pole, Black Knight Glaive, Gundyr's Halberd, Onikiri+Ubachi, Gargoyle Flame Spear, and the Dark Meme Sword are up there in popularity but not as much complete domination. I should make an updated version of tierlist guys weapons list since I'm bored and want to see the shitposting around it.
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Good morning lads, I just have one question.

In DaS2, for pyro damage, going 30 INT 30 FTH and going 0 INT 60 FTH is the same thing, right?
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>>150593860
jesus fucking christ please do

here's a meme one i copied
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>>150593865

Effectively yes, meaning full Faith, Magic, and Hex builds can effectively use Pyros as a backup. This was changed in Dark Souls 3 to 40/40 for optimal softcaps for some idiotic reason along with making attunement far worse on a spell slot to investment ratio, with only 5 slots being given by 30 ATT for some reason.
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>>150593849
it's all in discord now since it became a little bit of a clique and they don't play souls anymore

we could revitalize it
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>>150593985

The actual tier list guy made one in the format I prefer before the WA combo nerf patch, do you or anyone else have that saved?
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>>150589657
It's a pretty quick run if you're not bad.
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>>150593760
This. dsg is dying and there is nothing that can be done.
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>>150594143

That's because Dark Souls 3 is hemorrhaging to death, the game itself needs to be at least updated before the general fandom can be alive.
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>>150594143
Well, if FromSoft would quit making shit games.
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>>150594003
Thanks a lot man, I'm on my way to the Black Knight Greatsword.
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Gonna make a pyro/dark hand build lads
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>>150593362
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>>150594143

The thread fades, and soon only shitposting will remain...
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>>150594143
DLC will help!
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>>150594143
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR

WHERE ARE THE AUTISTS THAT WILL SPEND THE REST OF THEIR LIFE ROLEPLAYING AS DIFFERENT CUSTOM CHARACTERS THEY MADE?

WHERE ARE THE HOT NEW MEME META VIDEOS THAT YOU CAN ONLY FIND ON HERE?

WHERE? WHERE? WHERE?
IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!
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>>150594143
>people still play Dark Souls 1 to this day
>Dark Souls 3 getting old as fuck already
can we migrate back to that game
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ok dsg opinion on color bars?

He's gone all against the majority of twitchfag "pillars of the community" And i think it's kinda funny he's making videos to mock them.
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>>150594987

Who literally?
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>>150594969
>butcher any semblance of story or characters
>remove as many pvp mechanics as possible
are you seriously asking this
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>>150595068
Might as well butcher this shit inside out to keep the blood pumpin'...
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>>150594987
I don't really mind the health bar being colored, it's okay.
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>main weapons I see at pontiff are:
>carthus curved
>onikiri ubadachi
>gotthards
>and wolf knight greatsword???

Why are there so many wolf knight greatswords

Did someone popularize this thing
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>>150594143
>People shitting on FC posters near release
Didn't understand why they even cared
>Dead thread is 90% FC posters, including trip and avatar fags
Everything is clear now
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Why?

Why do people chug in a duel where you've been summoned at pontiff? It's fucking infuriating. I go there to avoid fifteen minute fights with shitters.

Yea I'm mad.
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>>150595387
>pontiff
>avoiding shitters
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This sucks.

Only 70 (seventy) people are in this thread.

That means only 7 (seven) people are actually playing this shit...
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How do I achieve maximum edginess?
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>>150595387
>not wanting a long, intense fight with lots of back-and-forth destruction relying upon strategic comboing and rollcatching, as well as weapon choice

git gud. I love it when I find healers.

I'd love to have an estus-enabled duel with someone in the FC tomorrow, but I can't, because I am Drake.
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>>150595446
I want to avoid long fights with them. I realize facing them is inevitable
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Does anyone just have a rip of the music files from the game in their native format, or an archive with those FSB files converted to WAV?
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>>150595504
Fuck off retard. Kicking someone's ass repeatedly until they run out of estus is nothing like what you tried describing.
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>>150594760
And so it is that shitposts seeketh (you)'s
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>>150593362
10/10 would dark hand repeatedly
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Man, this thread is dead.

You guys want another FC?
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>>150595854
I'll join in.

I'll be the red-head Chosen Und**d
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>>150594969
i used to post progress of my challenge runs, but i stopped. i don't think many people here are interested in PvE and i mainly posted to start a discussion and hopefully learn some new things, but i think it only happened like once
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>>150595854
sure
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>>150596273
>Games are always quite clearly balanced around the PvE experience first, even if it's at the dire expense of the PvP
>Our primary focus is that PvP

We've gone mad haven't we?
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as poise been fixed yet?

haven't played ds3 in over 4 weeks,been playin ds1 and 2.

this piece of shit makes me appreciate the first two allot more
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>>150596458

It was always working as intended, we've just recently figured out how it works;

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4vnan9/how_poise_works/
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>>150596458
poise control how good your hyperarmor is

over 35 poise means you trade with other ultras reliably, not much else
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>>150596273
pve's pretty cool, i just find fighting enemies with the same limits as me to be more enjoyable. Funnily enough the chain snake is one of my favorites, only because it seems to actually have stamina. Most npcs seem to never run out and can run at me endlessely but not mr. chain snake, sure he can hit me from 3 miles away but if i can close the distance and stay smart hes not so bad to take down.

Most npcs are very annoying though, they never stagger and never stop swinging. Makes pve tiring at times
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>>150596697
>>150595854
jojo themed fc? pretty sure theres only like 5 people on anyway.
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>>150596458
No, it doesn't exist.
As long as havels gets slapped around like a 5 dollar whore by axe thralls it doesn't exist.

Niggers need to give up on their Reddit memes, they're beside the point.
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What is the best level to be for watchdog summons?
20?
30?
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>>150597043
I've had tons of success in SL20.
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How badly did this dude fuck you on your first playthrough?
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how do I beat this faggot?
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>>150597603
went in with falchion. shit dmg. came back with magic falchion ->first try
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>>150597678
chaos ags 2hr1 spam
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>>150597678
Try tongue but hole
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>>150597678
Question is, how do you not beat it to that faggot. He's cute as fuck.
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What's a fun/unique way / build to play through on a ng+? I pretty much focused on end/dex/str and used the Irithyll Straight Sword for most of my first run.
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>>150597721
>>150597732
your waifu is shit


shiiiiiiiiiiiit
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>>150597678
arrows on first stage only project outward in a cone, roll behind it and slap his asshole.
stay close to him at all times and swing at his 'tail'
stage 2 the arrows follow, make sharp zigzag turns round the arena to not get fucked.
keep hitting his tail, be careful for chip damage from his ember forms fire. otherwise role thru his barrage and stay on his asshole
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>>150594987
he's a fucking idiot that got triggered some months ago over some trivial matter

bad content bad person, just another half-assed lazy memer desu
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>>150597769
Not yet.
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>>150596679
i think it's just idle state, some enemies can go into idle state where they don't attack you and just walk around looking at you. it can be very userful in some boss fights
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>>150597931
literally the best crop ive ever made in my entire life holy shit
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>>150595584
Pls respond
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>>150597901
It might be....i just get this feeling with some npcs that there was a time when they did have stamina and couldnt just run at you forever, but they changed that. Like the chain attack with the peasants, and the gaints still having their spasm for 20 seconds then fall asleep attack. those are both very different then what most enemies do which is combo attack into combo attack into jumping attack etc
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>>150597769
Gwyndolin ain't my waifu faggot, I treat him like the piece of meat he is, a cum dumpster to throw away and watch come crawling back to you
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What's your favorite cancer weapon?
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>>150596910
So, the guy that made this spent a total of 20 seconds on it, right?
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>>150598579
probably more
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>>150598570
literally the easiest weapon in the entire game to use in PvP
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>>150598626
Haven't really fought a lot of people using that though.
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>>150598587
25 seconds?
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>>150598768
Would you like to duel before I go to sleep?

Honestly it's probably the most user-friendly PvP weapon in-game
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>>150598815
>tfw forgot webm

am a fugin tard
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>>150598626
I find halberds to be the most catering to aggressive playstyles in 3, every other weapon class in DaS3 i find my self getting shit on but i rock it with halberds and been told i have quite the aggressive playstyle.
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>>150598925

My only gripe with the RHH is it looks so silly when you poke with it.

I love that halberds are strong in DS3 because they're stylish and very few action-adventure games feature them.
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>>150599214
I really wish that the Halberd or RHH could turtlepoke.

There's only two good turtlepoking weapons but they both have either low AR or awful split damage.

LKLS, DS spear
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>>150598570
2kat

I turn off online mode whenever I use it.
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>>150598570
Chaos Blade, Estoc, and Zweihander were my favorite PvP weapons in Dark Souls.
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>>150597603
I got to his fogwall as a fatrolling Knight on my first playthrough, and quit without even trying to fight him because I'd heard he was so hard. Then I rerolled as a Royalty. Took me 2 or 3 tries to beat him when I got back to him.
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>invade in the catacombs with stealth rings and a super long range bow

they'll never see what hit em :^)
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>>150601346
>invade in anor londo with stealth rings and a super long range greatbow

they'll never see what hit em :^)
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>>150601515
>invade profaned capital with stealth rings and a super long range crossbow

they'll never see what hit em :^)
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>he cuts me in down 3 swings
>50 vig + life ring + fap

K. What kinda quality build lets you destroy a tank like that
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>unlocked walking away from you
>turn around
>r1 r1 r1 r1
>repeat

why are all curved sword players the same?
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>>150568546
>FP now regenerates
I disagree with this because Simple Infusion exists.
And it's another step towards casualfaggotry where you don't have to manage your resources at all.
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wtf i like praise the sun now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJabaA3T_Ak

i thought he was just some reddit memester, but he seems like a decent dude and has a qt gf
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>>150601754
>invade Lothric Castle with stealth rings and a super long range Darksword

they'll never see what hit em :^)
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>>150602213
I would like to see a FP equivalent to the Sun Princess Ring though

>>150601954
What weapon did he use?
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>>150602427
who?
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>>150574393
>recently sacked city
That's what Demon's Souls had and it was pretty interesting and atmoapheric to have relatively fresh corpses strewn everywhere. Giants' Memories was also an interesting take especially since you encountered non-hollowed, non undead soldiers battling the Giants. It gave the place some living history and put the zombie mooks inhabiting FotFG into a context. The execution was terrible since it was just timed corridor runs and fighting the giants wasn't fun either but the concept was interesting.
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>>150602040
what, skilled? mad that I'm outspacing you?
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>>150602427
I don't watch Praise The Sun because he uses anime in his thumbnails.
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>>150590680
Quality of life improvements in DS3 spoiled you.
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>>150602932
except ds3 covenants suck ass and the rewards suck even harder
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>>150603207
what does that have to do with anything
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>>150598626
I wish at least one Halberd catered to the type of attacks the Halberd did in Demon's Souls and DS2, using swings more than pokes.
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>>150595854
yes
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>>150583980
When you use the dried fingers you can have an extra helper and get triple invaded.
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>>150603276
you mean glaives
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>>150603276
DS2 halberds were atrocious as fuck, both slow swings and overheads were way worse than current ds3 movesets, and sweetspot mechanic cemented them as shit-tier weapon for pvp i almost never saw on arena aside from newfriends thinking that "pls parry me" spin2win is worth shit.
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>>150603207
>except DS3 covenants suck ass
I don't think they do suck ass. Here are some examples on how they are in fact better than DS1 Covenants :

>infinite Red Eye Orb not tied to a single covenant
>no covenants that are absolutely pointless for that part of the game (for example Princess Guard is absolutely pointless and should've been merged with Way of White). Blue Sentinels existing is kinda weird, but it makes sense that we have 2 Blue covenants, 2 Red Covenants and 2 Purple covenants because they still fill different niches. I thought the idea of Watchdogs of Farron was really cool and it feels very lore appropriate.
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>put my sign on top of another so I get summoned first

D E V I L I S H
E
V
I
L
I
S
H
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So with the Obscuring ring, if I'm holding a bow, do they see a floating bow or do they see it only when I'm firing it?
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>>150603739
The obscuring ring only hides your body, so if you don't have a helmet on, they'll see a floating armor.
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>>150578023
versus duelfags im sure its not top tier but its really fun midgame
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confess your sins, /dsg/

i always try to kill the host in fcs
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>>150578023
>battle axe is better in every way unless you have 40 str
Rip low level bloodborne cosplay.
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>>150603861
I'm using Gotthard's, an Estoc and a LKS on my Faith build.
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>>150603797
what
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>>150586567
>>150593150
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>>150603625
>2 purple covenants

The what now?
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>>150603861
I like how Gotthard's look so I use them. I swear I don't spam the rolling L1 ;_;. I would use Lothric's holy sword over Gotthard's if the damage wasn't so ass.
>>
Uh....

Why do the Drang Hammers have 0 fucking hyper armour? These things may as well be fucking useless. No damage, no range, no speed, not even hyper armour?

What the fuck are they in the game for? Fighting anyone is a god damn uphill struggle.
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What's the best starting class for a pure caster stats wise?
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>>150604474
something with fuckall luck/ faith
depends how much vit you want
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>>150602427
Oh look, it's Dark Souls 3.

The game where you equip a straight sword and attack after they did their attack, and if they also have a straight sword, you suddenly have to try
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>>150604720
>comes up against guy with yhorms
>yhorms can't 2hit combo
>literally getting outdamaged by one of the worst straightswords
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>>150603625
>sunbros are not just coopers now, they get their own invasion color and a special function during an invasion
>grapes have their own invasion rules and higher upwards invasion ranges
>defeating a bluefag as an invader nests double reward
Even though DS3 lacks gimmick covenants they've created a pretty good base for invasion covenants and if bluefag queue system wasn't as fucked i would say that DS3 had the most functional and long-lived bluefags as well because in 4 months after release they were absolutely dead both in DS1 and DS2. DLC can certainly add a few gimmick covenants and if they are good, DS3 will have the most balanced covenant system in series.
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>>150604783
>>150604720
>ds3 balance team
Someone please tell me ds2 or ds1 was this unbalanced 5 months after release
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>accidentally summoned by dark sword ganker faggot and he dc's after I hit him once
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>>150604931
>helixmastodons
>binoboosters
>all the fucking buffs stacked together
>monoscim
>hexes
>lance stunlock
>tanimura rush
>bastard sword 4 hit combo
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>>150604931
ds1 had fucking dwgr flipping giantmom elemental weapon vitgouges raping everything for almost a year
ds2 is still unbalanced as fuck even now, lacking even the most basic things like functional scaling, prior to the first dlc it was a fucking abomination
>>
>trying to farm blessed gem
holy fuck this is cancer
thank you a-team
>>
>>150604931
They were, 3 is kinda worse, but you sound like you never tried them. But both had an insane patch during their lifetime(as almost did BB, and DaS1's hurt PvE in favour of PvP slightly)
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>>150604931
DS3 is by far the most balanced out of all mainline souls game in the same period of time.
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>>150604931
Nope.

Ultra wea[pms use 3 dark sword R1's worth of stamina in one hit, yet to just 50AR more than it. That one hit is also slow as fuck and sometimes, you can't even get your guaranteed 2 hit combo because reasons.

The straight swords in this game are a serious issue. They trivialized the actual single player game to a degree I've not seen. Dark Souls 3's bosses fall to their fucking knees versus straight swords.

Straight swords are literal Very Easy mode. They should be banned from PVP imo, anyone who uses them should be demonized. They;re all flat out broken.
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the dead online is killing me bros
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>>150605079
>mundane santier's and havelyn
>phantom ripostes
>ohko backtabs/ripostes by mundane daggers
>buffable MLGS
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>>150605262
Straight swords were even more broken in DS2 and unlike DS3 which at least pretended to nerf them, they never were nerfed in DS2.
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>>150605345
>mundane santiers rolling attack could be combo'd into mundane avelyn shot for 1hko
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>>150605369
Pfft, I played 1000 hours of DaS2 with plenty of UGS/STR play. Straight swords are slow as fuck compared to das3. They have significantly more cooldown after swings and aren't near as spammy.

The katana's were the problem in that game with the counter damage and just face trading to victory.

They seemingly fixed and balanced the katanas in 3 (somewhat, the running attacks are still bullshit and make spears obsolete) but the straight swords they put a fucking jet engine under.

If you told me, in DaS1, that you could easily get a straight sword to 400 pure physical AR at just 40 in a stat I'd laugh my fucking head off.

Compare the Dark Sword in 1 versus 3. There's a clear fucking difference.
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>>150605369
what are you talking about? straight swords in ds2 were hot garbo in pve, in pvp they were good but mostly because of their R2s and not the R1s
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>>150605505
There's a clear difference between straight swords in DS1 and DS3 but there's virtually no difference between straight swords in DS2 and DS3 because both of those were balanced by a fucktard Tanimura. Longsword is one of the universally agreed top tiers in DS2 with a literally perfect moveset.
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>>150598925
nice combo my man
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>tryhard twinswords' weapon art has terrible tracking and usually slides away from an enemy when landed

I hate this so much jesus
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>>150605586
Longsword is indeed OP as shit in 2, but it's not really an issue. It has a great moveset, but like I said the speed difference and cooldown between 2 and 3 is massive. The straight swords are basically lifted out of Demon's Souls speed wise but have WTF damage ontop of it.

You could flat out cut 100 AR off all straight swords across the board right now and the playing field versus other weapons would only just break even.
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>game so dead I'm literally invading Chinese despite "region lock" being on

good game fromtards
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>>150605956
wow...so... this... memes
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>>150605760
>speed difference and cooldown between 2 and 3 is massive
So is a general speed of the game. DS2 was slow as shit and it was infinitely more annoying to deal with longswords while in DS3 especially at sub-30% rolls i don't even remember the last time i got killed by a longsword.

Tanimura will never let anyone nerf his precious longswords or curved swords. He loves them too much.
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>>150605505
>They have significantly more cooldown after swings

This is true of DkS2 in general, though. DkS2 shortened the start-up for basically every weapon class, relative to DkS, and lengthened recovery times.
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Why do I frequently take damage despite parrying? Isn't it supposed to turn away all incoming damage?
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>>150605131
What weapon do you want blessed I've got a few spare
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>>150606114
Which is exactly what resulted in ultra passive spinning playstyles because the first one to take action loses.
Jesus i want a souls games that forced you to be aggressive again. At least we had BB.
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>>150606151
I don't take candy from strangers.
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>>150606195
>again

Other than BB, what Souls games forced you to be aggressive?
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>>150606362
OK then, only asking
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>>150572570
Oh no, is that the fair lady and Queelana?
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>>150606427
Both DeS and DS1 were pretty fucking aggressive pvp-wise. Though reactive playstyles became pretty dominant in DS1 as well but there were weapons like CB or furysword which allowed you to go in and go in hard.
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>>150606362
Respond to this post if you have a change of heart and can accept some charity
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Is there any fashion for a blacksmith is DS3? Considering Sellsword chest as it looks kinda like an apron.
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>fighting someone, both using meme play styles
>get lowish health, but I'm winning

>straight sword appears, R1 just gets fucking MASHED

I'm fucking done. I quit this stupid game right now.
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>>150606726
The sooner all casual scrubs leave the community the better.
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>>150606726
always expect metaweapons to appear

when this happens: drop your armor, equip bloodring and roll. if you're not in iframes you're doing it wrong.
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>>150606842
>100% tryhard community in a game that rewards wanker playstyles
so much fun
>>
>invaded in Dark Souls 3
>meh

>invaded in Dark Souls 2
>JESUS CHRIST SAVE MEEE
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What skills do I put points into for DaS2?

Is Vitality worth it? I'm a swordsman. So far I've been putting points into Endurance and a couple in Vigour and Dexterity
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>>150606923
this 2bh. its not exciting like ds1 or ds2 but its still entertaining kinda
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>invade
>blade of dorkmoon has returned home
>aldrich faithful has returned home
>phantom x has returned home
>phantom y has returned home
>connection error
I suppose this means whoever I invaded just got killed by a single invader despite having 3 phantoms, twice the estus and tons more health?
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>>150606923
>invaded in Dark Souls 2
That never happens.
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I just want to cum inside the maiden in black and make her white!!!
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>>150607080
boss fog or he was about to die and pulled the plug
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>>150607093
bullshit

i got invaded in heide the first time i stepped in their the other day
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>whip slow as fuck
>most of the attacks are aimed toward the ground. especially if you 2hand them
>what range whips do have is made even less when you 2hand them
>dagger tier damage
I miss the Old Whip from DaS2.
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>>150606916
It rewards player skill and innovation. Scrub mentality just stagnates the game and make it worse. A good player would have an answer for a pocket SS, and they would use that to win rather than whining like a bitch on a forum/image board. They are actually fun to play against. Scrubs that just lose then cry about it are not.
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>>150607240
>defending a broken game with "git gud" mentality
40/40 quality bait
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>>150607226
>chips through shields for like 300 HP and utterly stunlocks anything
>has a HUGE range on a charged 1HR2 that goes through walls and obstacles allowing you to hit targets from ridiculous positions
>fast 1hr1 with long range serving as a bait for WA
Witch's Locks is the best that ever happened to whip class in the entire series.
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What worries me about 3 is that it seems most balance decisions were deliberate.
They didn't think throughly GMS, DWGR and some other stuff (I never got too invested into 2, but seems it was a similar case) would get unintentionally out of hand.
In 3, seems they want rolls, 2 hit combos and insta estus as the norm
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>>150607360
>not an argument
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>>150607495
Just like muh Bloodborne!
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>>150607240
I can hardswap weapons to get a fair fight but my autism won't let me
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>>150607378
dark resin on a 40/40 normal whip is good too if you're not a wizard
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>>150607240
You do know that there will be no one using anything else than the meta weapons at that point right?
Everyone will use what is best because everyone is "skilled" and the one with the better weapon is going to win most of the time
Alternatively, you get counter counter counter hardswapping at the start to attempt to get the answer to your opponents weapon, who will promptly switch to an answer to your answer and so forth
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>invade chinaman
>aaaand infinite health infinite stamina infinite hyperarmor

nice
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>PVP/Invasions at SL1-30
:D
>PVP/Invasions at SL30-60
:|
>PVP/Invasions at SL60-90
:(
>PVP/Invasions at SL90-120
~@>:(*):37s

I'm never leveling past invasions at the swamp ever again
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>>150568420
*where!
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>>150607764
>swamp invasions
>not the absolute worst
it's literally gank forest all over again
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>>150607495
There's nothing wrong with rolls, fast estus or 2 hit combos. They just need to increase the damage output and speed of larger weapon classes and give EVERY estus animation instability frames for full duration meaning if you got hit even once your HP are going to get fucked even more than prior to healing.
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>>150607831
But it's fun because no one does insane damage and everyone's having a big free for all with forest cunts coming in to help rekt the host and his summons

Everything past SL60 is just who can kill who in one stamina bar of R1's first before you run out of estus
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>>150607605
That's a problem you and your doctor need to work on, not the game.

>>150607684
Except no one will ever agree on a single best item, and even if they did, it would be nerfed. On top of that, people would also use less powerful weapons that hard counter said best weapon. Plus, you would see some variety from people constantly trying to find the next best thing.

The arms race is what makes the combat fun and keeps it interesting. If scrubs had it their way, everyone would pick one weapon, then stand perfectly still and take turns hitting each other with an R1 until one of you died.

>>150607764
Most fun invasions are in the Catacombs and Cathedral.
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>>150607764
>Walk into Farron unfingered at NG+2 solo
>Nonstop invasions 2v1
>Cant even swap to WoB
>eventually die because estus ran out
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>150607924
lv50-60 adritch is way better than swamp
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>>150607360
>40/40 quality bait

did you come up with that just now?
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>>150607924
you invade up bro
the host can be like 30 levels above you
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>implying Ornstein is real
>>
The only way to fix DS3 is to remove PvP entirely.
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>>150607929
Still waiting on that GTS Bloodring Rolling L1 and CCS nerf

And ringswap tryhards can go fuck themselves
>Blessed weapon at the cost of 1 stat point
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>>150608140
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Luci being a humongous faggot outside of /bbg/? Who would have guessed?
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>>150607531
>anything that I can't argue against is "not an argument"
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>>150608150
>Still waiting on that GTS Bloodring Rolling L1 and CCS nerf

Keep waiting scrub. You sucking against it doesn't make it the best shit ever. Things that were legitimately OP, like the FUGS, got nerfed.

>>150608271
>logical fallacies are "not an argument"
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>>150606515
OK. I played a lot of DeS and DkS PvP, and while they allow for you to be aggressive, they really don't force you to play aggressively. Hell, many of the best weapons in those games were very defensive. It was also really hard to punish somebody who just backpedaled with their shield up and rolled away.

Kilij vs. Mirdan Hammer is a fun and hectic fight, but you don't know the true meaning of tedium until you've fought a Northern Regalia turtle.
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>>150608313
it's that easy folks
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>>150608365
>Legit OP
>FUGS
>Geting hit by ultras

No i think you just suck
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>>150608313
I enjoy watching crash sites
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>>150608365
>fugs
>legit op
Holy shit you're one of those people who spam CCS r1 then complain you got HA'd by ultra weapons aren't you
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>>150608365
>Things that were legitimately OP, like the FUGS
pic related

>logical memellacies
>while your defense of bloodring gotthards was and straightswords was literally "git gud"
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How do I parry the Farron GS animeme flippy nonsense?
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>>150608616
I usually just BS them out of it.
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>>150608660
I can never get backstabs online. The other player always walks right out of it.
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>>150608846
For the most part, I have the same issue, but when they start break dancing, the turn their back too you during part of it. I can usually block the hit then tap R1 which often turns into a BS. It is especially effective with something that can shield poke.
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Anyone got hot guy sliders? Pref masc, but fem is ok too.
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>>150608973
>I can usually block the hit
>Using a shield
Thanks for the advice though. I'll give it a shot.
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>>150593849
They don't play souls games anymore.
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>>150609067
Shields are pretty useful if you don't just try to keep them raised and hide behind them constantly.
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So do you guys think the abyss and the deep are the same thing or do you think they are entirely unrelated?
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>invade
>HOST OF EMBERS DESTROYED before I even spawned in
>3 times in a row
nice
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>>150609523
What's the point then? I invade because I enjoy fucking people over, embers aren't even worth that much.
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>>150609519
I hope so
If only to shut up a buddy of mine that keeps screaming 'THE DEEP MEANS BB AND DS ARE THE SAME UNIVERSE ITS CANON NOW" and its annoying me to death
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>GH are currently the only great weapon that stuns for the second hit after the first
>this will get nerfed for sure

Hold me /dsg/, I love my Morne's.
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>>150593985
why is there 2 carthus curved greatswords and no carthus curved sword?
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>>150609605
The only thing that makes me think they could be slightly different things is the item description of the deep gem which says "There is a darkness that lies beyond human Ken."
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>>150609519
deep is the lowest layer of abyss formed from dregs of humanity
it's literally something that "bind this world", probably its center
hopefully we can descend to it in DLC and fight the dark soul itself
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What's a good, light, fast weapon to use offhand and finish those who always survive with a sliver of health?
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did memezaki fix invasions and pvp yet?
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>>150610010
corvian greatknife
one of the best offhands in general
alternatively, fire surge if you're on pyro
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>>150610010
Thorn armor piece.
Roll on those tears of denial shitters and watch the tears get counter denied
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>>150610031
>implying they'll ever fix the meant to be played, which is with 4 phantoms
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>>150610073
>16 dex req
Is there any other?
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>>150610248
There's always lefstoc if you don't mind being a shitter
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>>150610248
Basic Rapier?
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>>150610367
I do mind tho. I guess I'll just use my fists
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>>150610367
>shitter
>>
obscuring ring makes dick ass thief invasions so much fun

literally "pssh, nothing personal" *vanishes into the shadows* tier
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most of my weapons are +9, should i just make them +10? I have 6 slabs just lying around
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>>150610693
>obscuring ring
I just got invaded today
Guy had obscuring ring on, but I saw him appear literally halfway across the post pontiff courtyard
Can't have invaders having fun now
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>>150610749
No because you only get a limited amount of slabs per cycle and if you upgrade a weapon to +10 then your autism will prevent you from using weapons that are +9.
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>>150610813
Quality Tanimura balancing.
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>>150610813
then he revealed himself somehow
otherwise it's like 10 meters to appear and outside lockon range to disappear
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>>150610859
that actually sounds correct
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>Morne's Great Hammer has insane stat requirements
>24.0 weight
>whooping 600 damage

Why is From so retarded?
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>>150611049
>using great weapons instead of a quality SS
It's because you're shit
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>>150610536
trashed that nerd
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fuck me, best tutorial for cheeseing the monster in the forrst guide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjjqGw9mSM
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>>150611635
if you send him to iosefka, she does the job for you
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ready for the FC tomorrow
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Anyone have that spreadsheet with weapon consumption?

How much End I need for Morne's?
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>>150611635
>picture
ow the edge.... i have two personalities... nicest guy you'll ever met... and BLOODY PSYCOPATH
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>>150610813
The nerf isn't that bad, people just expect to abuse it but being the lock on range is quite fair
>>
do we have news on dlc

stopped playing 2 months ago
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Is lightning storm as Shit as it seems or am I just a shitter that can't get good
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>>150611889
i think that picture is supposed to be about the terrorist attack in Nice where a mudslime drove a truck into a crowd
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>>150612067
>miracle
It's shit.
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>>150612170
Fucking memezaki fix faith
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Why is it impossible to backstab players who are simply walking forward?
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>/dsg/+/bbg/

Wow it only took like 3 years
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>hit a dude in full havels with my CCS
>he doesn't stagger
bros... what's going on?
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>>150611635
You don't really a tutorial for that. You just toss poison knives while hiding in the hallway.
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>>150612067
Use storm to stun enemies into a sunlight spear
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>>150612440
Thanks for reminding me, I haven't filtered you yet.
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>>150612398
that spell that gives you poise?
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>>150607905
>there is nothing wrong with people being able to walk away from estus backstabs
>there is nothing wrong with everyone having gigantic i-frames for free

Estus should last the same time but make you stand completly still. No harm done for PvE, but now any can punish it in PvP. Two hit system is cancer because everything that breaks it is clearly unintended and unbalanced around it.
>>
Who is the thiccest Dark Soul?
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>>150612491
He was just stating the obvious, there's nothing complex about cheesing hobo.
Certainly not complex enough to justify a video instead of two lines.
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>>150612491
but you claim to filter me every single thread. You should probably get that memory checked out by a doctor. It seems pretty serious.

>>150612547
The only way to make that fair is to give chugs HA.
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>>150612652
Don't be silly, anon. Tripfags are filtered on sight.
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>>150612067
fashion spell

I had best results when I used it randomly. like when people expect a stake and start panic rolling. will never hit a decent player.
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>>150612652
There are a million guides for getting the Uchi in DS3
Hell theres probably guides for getting the uchi in DS2
dont underestimate people's retardedness
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>>150612673
filtered
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>>150612673
That's reasonable, it's supposed to fuck over face chuggers who'd get backstabed for it anyway.
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>>150612891
Well yeah, but you wouldn't link a video of someone killing the undead merchant, would you?
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>>150573520
Only darkmoons get proof of concord well kept if they defeat aldritch faithfull
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R8
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>>150613186
this fashion sounds like cancer. post screenshot
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>>150613082
No, that's a lie created by fextra and people keep repeating it. You get nothing from area invaders, be them dogs or faithfuls. The mechanic for well kepts is still foggy, might have to do with PvE sin, or a set number of invasion wins, or killing Yorshka, who knows.
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>>150613384
I'm not at home, I'm guessing the fashion must look good. If doesn't I'll try other robes, I'll just keep the helmet. Pontiff knight's are the lightest metal gauntlets, I think.
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>>150611825
awesome screenshot! :O
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>>150608227
He's somewhat less obnoxious than a lot of other tripfags and at least he discusses the games.

>>150609605
I think the Deep might honestly be something that's similar of BB shit, but it doesn't confirm that they're in the same universe, From just likes to recycle the themes a lot.
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>>150609690
UGS do that.
At least, AGS and Profaned do.
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>>150613503
it looks like shit m8. none of the pieces fit together
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Man you guys weren't kidding, I haven't seen a single host who didn't have a phantom.
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>>150612642
m,eeeeeeeeee
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>>150614028
That's because the game prioritizes them for invasions. It's not that you can't invade solo hosts, it's just that the game will try to put you up against a host with phantoms instead.
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>>150614028
You're likely invading the wrong places. Most guys with phantoms have stopped except dedicated ganks
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>>150614207
yeah because its not like invaders are at a disadvantage anyway right :^)
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>>150613438
It would make sense for it to be sin, because otherwise sin doesn't really have any influence on the game.
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So, are there any decent (faith) weapons to use at 40 Dex/30 Fai?

I know the best I can do is probably Sharp infusion + Lightning/Darkmoon Blade, but I'm looking for something without a buff.
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>>150614273
Well, you're not supposed to make the game harder for people who play solo, you are there to give a harder time to those who need phantoms.
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>>150614273
The only thing they should change is make the dried finger disable seeds. Other than that, things are pretty fair.

Additionally, they could add the prayer animation to the start of summoning people via signs. Locking up summons would be unfair, but adding that animation would stop them from being able to face summon phantoms repeatedly.
>>
Blade of the gankmoon covenant when? Grey phantoms summoned against people who re-summon the same phantoms over and over.
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>>150614401
DSS or DSSS if you got the Str for them
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>>150614401
Dragonslayer spear and swordspear
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>>150614615
>>150614575
these are dex weapons with faith requirements
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>>150614425
That's all well and good until you lock delicious weapons and items behind a PvP wall and then make PvP ridiculously scaled against you.

The grind wall is ridiculous, too. Either way From fucked up hard.
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>>150614017
It really does look like shit. Thanks for checking.
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>>150614207
source: reddit and fextra
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>>150614559
invader tears are delicious
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>>150614575
>>150614615

No, I unfortunately don't have the Str for those.

How is the Saint Bident? That seems to fit.
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>>150614773
Then saints bident
There are no great faith weapons
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at what time do the fc's usually take place?
im on europoor-clock but would like to join, they were pretty fun in ds1
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>>150614781
>delicious weapons and items

Such as? I have maxed every covenant, the only things I care about are obscuring and warmth. Also bloodlust for suicides. The only other rewards worth a damn are Curved wolf, which very few people even want or care about and darkmoon ring, useless to most builds.
>>
>>150614989
midnight or later for us yuros
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>>150614989
You could host or gauge interest, otherwise you need to wait for burgers to come online. Or use weekends
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>>150614989
fuck off falseflagging aussies we americans and euros are FRIENDS
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>>150615124
do you dislike me even more now?
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>>150615124
This is now an Ameribud and Europal thread
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>>150584685
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>>150607093
I got invaded last week like the first time in a year in Heide.
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I'VE DONE IT, YES, I HAVE. HGRUGHGHHH

NAMELESS
KING
DOWN

[/spoiler]it took me around 20 tries[/spoiler]
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>>150606923
>invaded in Dark Souls 2
>oh ok I'll just wait twenty minutes or so for him to leave
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>>150615549
>oh ok I'll just wait twenty minutes or so for him to leave
You realize that nobody fucking waits there for 20 minutes if they can't get the host in that time?

Like, the areas in Dark Souls 2 are so small generally that you can go through them in 2 minutes so while the invasion timer is shitty, if you get throw out of the host's world because of it, you should neck yourself.
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>>150615462
couldve just asked us for help :(
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Currently doing a ng+7 run where I cosplay as the next boss that I will fight.
How much will I suffer at the dancer?
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>>150615676
You can easily turtle 20 minutes if you call fuckbuddies. My favourite way is waiting on the other side of a shortcut while I refuse to open it and drop carvings. Many don't realise when they can't reach me.
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>>150615830
>Aldrich
>using darkmoon bow
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>>150615984
>>150615830
>Greatwood
???
>>
>>150616031
You cosplay as the hollow spawns.
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>>150616031
Hollow slayer and nothing else.
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>>150616031
hollow slayer and pyromancer garb since it looks like it has ball sacks all around it
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>>150616187
>>150616105
>Ancient Wyvern
????????
>>
>>150616307
turn into a dragon of course
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>>150616307
Dragon Form and bare fists
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>>150615782
summonings should be disabled for NG

what's so fun about instakilling bosses with no effort? l wouldn't even call them bosses
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>>150616361
>not using the dragon breath exclusively

Fuckin casuls I swear.
>>
>>150616575
>summonings should be disabled for NG
ebin
>>
>>150616575
>summonings should be disabled for NG
>>
man DS3 just has no fun cosplays does it
>>
So
>Talked to Anri in Road of Sacrifices
>Killed High Lord Wolnir
>Then Killed the Deacons
>Talked to Anri in Firelink, they are heading to Irithyll

I want the Usurper Ending, did i fucked up?
>>
>>150616575
>this gameplay portion of the game should be disabled until you finish it

Why do you guys feel the need to turn every summoning discussion into some gaming creed shit? Go find some bullet hells if that's what you're after
>>
>>150616775

Did you kill Abyss Watchers before getting the five level ups from Yoel? If so you already did.
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>>150616763
get off it dude
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>>150616775
According to wiki, you should have talked with Yuria before big skeleton man
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>>150616763
It has a lot of funny BB cospoors, some bosses like princes, champ, NK or AW too
>>
is the lightning long sword the best lightning sword?
>>
>>150609519

Is that the idea of evil or something?
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>>150616842
does anri even appear if yuria doesn't?
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>>150616983
yes the pilgrim assassin will always be there
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>>150616763
Some guy posted a pretty good Dante cosplay a few days ago.
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>>150616763
>all the cosplays are from other souls games
top kek
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>>150617117
you dont mean this one, do you?
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>>150616575
>summonings should be disabled for NG
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>>150617262
That's pretty swank, but I mean an Irithyll Dante using Farron Legion's armor.
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>>150617431
>gif
;_;
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>>150617431
i want network test ds2 back
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is drakc sword still good for death
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>>150617790
drake sword is always good. dreksorders, not so much
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>Failed to log in to the Dark Souls 3 game server
ruh roh
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>>150617790
Come again?
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Where are my shitty useless novelty messages from DeS? They made me actually want to read every message because a lot of them would be hilarious.

>Did you think there'd be a hint?
>I'm in trouble--please recommend this message!
>The true Demon's Souls starts here.
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>>150618268
haha yeah they were epic
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I still can't fucking beat Queelag, jesus christ. Every time I get her down to 1/5th of her health I fuck up, like I roll back into lava and get hit by a body explosion, or I get caught up in her legs and get hit by a body explosion, or I fuck up the timing on my roll and get hit by a sword, it's painful.
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>>150618268
finger
but hole
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>>150618268
thrust,
but hole

:DDD
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>tfw no powerstance in DaS3
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Why haven't you moved on to fighting games yet?
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>>150618268
>longfinger required ahead
>patches squat
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>>150618268
rear ahead
therefore time for thrust
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>>150568274
What's the meaning of this?
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Okay lads, I have 3 Slabs left on this PvP build.

What weapons should I +10?

I'm not too bothered about the meta unless the weapon is objectively shit.
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>>150618540
I really don't understand why they dropped the dual wielding system from DS2. It was perfect. You could actually dual wield weapons and combine their move-sets.
But no, here have a basic light attack, a fucking block and nothing more. Not even running or rolling attacks.
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partizan or spear? l can't decide
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>>150618756

What did you slab already, and what weapons do you like already?
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>>150618268
spouse ahead
therefore try tongue
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>>150618268
try wielding with both hands
and then beating to a pulp!
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>>150618703
Lucy retardation
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WHAT YOU CAN'T HANDLE A LITTLE DRAGON ACTION
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>>150618268
message ahead

message
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>>150618703
we had to combine the generals because they cant survive on their own
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What great weapons stun only once on 2HR1s?
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>>150618268
illusory wall,
try attacking
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>>150619043
Greataxes if they don't headshot
Most UGS

All of them if it's a trade
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Where da FC?
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>>150619043

Yhorm's Great Machete, but it can combo twice if you get a headshot with it or some other weird condition. Some other greataxes also have that but I'm not sure which.

Ultra Greatswords that hit on the second 2HR1 don't combo for the follow-up to that as well, only the first 2HR1 will combo.
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>>150618808
Twin Prices' Greatsword
Profaned Greatsword
Carthus Curved Sword (not the GS)
Exile Greatsword (a favourite)
Onikiri and Ubadachi
Black Knight Glave (a favourite)
Claymore (Kinda replaced by Twin Princes')
Longsword
Darkrift (Bleh)

I'm looking at the Black Knight Greataxe, since it hits like a truck and has some nice arcs to its attacks, but that doesn't mean it's actually good.
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>>150619164
the headshot sounds like a bug. Why would a non projectile based weapon have a headshot mechanic?
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>>150619161
i can host one in a couple of hours, still gotta eat

itll be at the lothric castle bonfire though
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>>150619184
BKGA is the only GA that has a decent moveset

I want a Greataxe with the Hunter Axe moveset so badly
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Just realized DS3 doesn't have the basic vanilla greatshield.

But literally 80% of them are references though :DDD
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>>150619184

Black Knight Greataxe is the best greataxe in terms of damage and moveset, but the absolutely idiotic stamina consumption nerf to it two patches ago makes it very hard to use. You basically can only do three attacks in a row with it no matter what even at 40 endurance, though if you learn to play for trades with it it's one of the few great weapons that are worth it for trades. GIve it a shot at +4 and see if it works for you or not.

Otherwise I'd recommend Lucerne, Black Blade, Black Knight Sword (a personal favorite), Lothric Knight Sword, Partizan, Lothric Knight Long Spear, the Lothric Knight GS, the Hollowslayer Greatsword and Gotthard's Memeswords for viability and 'fun' potential.
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>>150619184
B-but n-othing..!
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Lucy can you make a webm of the transformed Hunter Axe R1 in a place with good lightning?

Thanks in advance.
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>There's no boss at the end of Demon Ruins
>Just a reference
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>>150618430
i don't know if it works consistently, but on my last run i just kept walking around her and hitting her legs and all her attacks would completely miss me. you can try that, see if it works. even if it doesn't, you can probably get her stuck like that for a long period of time and get a lot of hits that way
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>>150619602
the entire game is just memes
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>>150619321
>>150619481
>>150619492
Okay, the BKGA is going into rotation.
I'll look at the others suggested, thanks!
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>>150619602
I think the entrance to the Old Demon King should be 100% blocked by the giant worm, as well as the back entrance, making it literally impossible to pass without killing the worm, but the ballista would never target it and all your attacks would bounce off.

Then you'd have to take the entrance by breaking the ground, then hijack the Ballista (you would climb it by a ladder and operate from the top) to kill the worm. Only THEN you would be able to face the Old Demon King, that should be as strong as Nameless King.

After defeating him and reentering the boss arena, there would be a giant Stray Demon there for you to kill that would drop the original Demon Great Hammer.
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>>150618756
Gotthards
Estoc
CCS
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>>150618787
Partizan, spear is boring
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Remember when Flynn's Ring used to be good?
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>>150620227
No.
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>>150618756
Crescent Axe

super fun
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>>150619260
>Why would a non projectile based weapon have a headshot mechanic?
Because they can still hit you in the head.

It's a well documented mechanic that applies to other weapons/attacks too. The 2kat WA, for example.
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>>150620227
thank fucking god it isn't anymore or bloodring 30% equip load gotthards would have 50 more AR on their shit
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>>150620859
funnily enough actually lowering your equip load through rings does not boost the damage of flynn's, only vitality counts
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>>150619809
Should I +9 (or +4) some potentials and test before I slab them?

I mean, will a +9 give a good idea of its performance?
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>tfw still stuck at Old Hero, but 4-2 is now managable and I can easily farm chunks from black and gold yoshimitsus

How do I beat him without using the thief ring to gimp the fight?

>some asshole spoiled the fight on youtube comments while I was listening to the old hero theme
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>>150620945
and you only need base vitality to roll around in rags and with gotthards
fuck that shit ring, it made already overpowered fast ds2 weapons even stronger and i'm glad it's nerfed to the point only caestus/dagger builds are able to use it
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>>150621080
yeah, if you like it then slab it, if you don't just trash it
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>>150621080
Ideally yes.
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Can anyone here defend why questlines are so fucking hard to follow
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>invaders can destroy the catacombs bridge

snibbety snab :^)
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Should I infuse my red hilted halberd with lightning, or should I go raw and use lightning blade instead
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>>150621497
there not though, I did most of them by just exploring and talking to everyone repeatedly the first time.
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>>150619895
>Then you'd have to take the entrance by breaking the ground, then hijack the Ballista (you would climb it by a ladder and operate from the top) to kill the worm.

Sounds like a DS2 meme sequence and if it was done this way, it would be trashed for "breaking conventional Souls gameplay".

>making it literally impossible to pass without killing the worm
Sounds like B-team design philosophy where they add lmaoarbitrary gates into the game world to funnel you into progression that they want. That's not to say the statues were inherently terrible design in vanilla, since they mostly blocked optional areas, but SotFS just blew it by adding those statues everywhere.

>Only THEN you would be able to face the Old Demon King, that should be as strong as Nameless King
That would be honestly shitty boss design from lore perspective. The flame is dying and the demons with it, having the Old Meme King be as strong as Gwyn's firstborn wouldn't even make any sense.
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>>150621501
brb making a patches build
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bows or crossbows
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>>150620839
>mfw the playerbase wants the intricate combat system of the games dumbed down even more so there's no unpredictability because Dark Souls is an esport now apparently.

>>150621497
Replay value.
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>summon someone
>tip fedora
>use deep protection
>use oath of sunlight
>buff raw +10 astora sword with lightning blade
>eat green blossom
>drink listerine to recharge FP

>he uses the black separation crystal and leaves
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>>150621604
Go lightning infused
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>>150618942
Probably left out of pity
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>>150621497
No, it's just bad game design.

>inb4 git gud casul 2 hardcore 4 u
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Does anybody have an unupgraded Golden Ritual Spear they can gift to my new character?
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>>150618174
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>>150621859
You forgot to
>geusture several more times
>buffs run out
>start to rebuff
>repeat
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>>150597678
wolf knight sword charged r2's


can we make a console based FC?
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>>150621497
First time around you're unlikely to finish them, but they tend to be more about cool, unique rewards and side things to enjoy on later playthroughts. I'd rather find out them having some nice closure than ending suddently though.
If you're not interested in playing the game more than once, there's nothing wrong about looking them up, but I don't do it.
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>>150621497
A lot of things in the games are intentionally vague so that the playerbase would talk about the games on the Internet message boards and at the same time guerrilla market the games. This has been stated in an interview.
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>>150622226
they are impossible to figure out without pure luck and trial and error if you don't read a guide
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>>150621859
Are you this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayzoQiExZfs
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>>150621497
Same reason NPCs just dissapear after befriending them. From is too lazy/incompetent to script proper NPC interactions.
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>>150621501
is the bridge the only thing in the entire game that an invader can interact with?
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>>150622284
Later on you learn some stuff.
I did Leonhard's and Hawkwood's on my own. You always get to do Anri's quest and see its end, premature or not.
The only really bad moments in 3 are Siegward in the kitchen and Sirris's sign on the bridge.
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>>150622374
I'm pretty sure- unless you count elevators?
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NEW THREAD

>>150622437
>>150622437
>>150622437
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>>150614845
Would make for fun fights imo

No tears left for me I'm all dry
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>>150617431
I'm here, my child.
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>>150619471
>DS3 doesn't have the basic vanilla greatshield
You mean the tower shield from DaS1?
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