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/shmupg/ Shooting Game General

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This general is for discussing all shmups/stgs (shoot 'em ups/shooting type games).

Previous thread: >>149965179

Need something to play? Check this shit out: https://mega.nz/#!mlwG3ZCJ!NMdWxNY4pjqc1vFGwzyPIbtGor0GHObcfENNMgOQW1s

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>RECENT RELEASES:

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Ke-Tsu-No-Ana
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RefRain
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Shmups Skill Test
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>UPCOMING RELEASES:

Blue Revolver
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Xydonia
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iMalice
http://amamoriya.gozaru.jp/imalice/

DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu
http://cave.degicagames.com/

>Don't forget to vote!
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First for fishies
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2hu is better than Cave for fapping purposes.
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Third for beautiful, young, talented and charismatic virgin that everyone adores!
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>>150547308
C'mon senpai. The least you can do is spoiler it
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>>>150547626
>by your loose definition
Please enlighten me and tell me what my definition is, because it seems you know better than me what I say.

>>>150547798
>Lol, nobody relevant gives a fuck about R-Type or Ikaruga
Who do you consider as "relevant" please?
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>>150548516
You call shmups puzzle games because you have to figure out routes. By that logic anything that requires some thought is a puzzle/shmup.
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>>150548983
I never called them puzzle games, asshole. All I said is just that they are very similar to puzzle games.
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>>150547995
Probably no need.
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>>150548983
>anything that requires some thought is a puzzle/shmup
Vast majority of games also hardly require thought, fuckface
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Normally I'd be with the people egging Kraut-kun on, but he's not entirely wrong here. Also, bringing drama from the last thread is top-tier pathetic.

Congrats on those CC gainz, KBR. Looking forward to seeing what else you can do. I'm not particularly interested in Ikaruga (I'm too retarded to wrap my head around bullet absorption gimmicks), but is there an R-Type you'd recommend for someone who doesn't usually play horizontal memorizers?
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>>150551006
Just fuck off, asshole.
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>>150551216
Make me :^)
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I'm cucking all you guys on the Sonic CD leaderboards btw
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>>150551519
That's okay. I don't like Sonic CD.
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>>150551006
Kraut is actually kinda based sometime. It's just that it's become a meme to shit on him.

Go for the top Kraut! Don't let anyone keep you down!
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>>150552029
Oh there's no meme, he used to be a relentless shitposter. Just tamed it down a bit so he only spergs out when people bring it on.
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>tfw mushi looks impossible for you
tomorrow i will play mushi all day
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I've fucked around once with making a SHMUP in Game Maker, and I'm not sure about my scoring system. Basically you dash into shit in order to increase your chain counter by 1 up to 16, and your multiplier only applies if you destroy shit with your spread/laser. However, if your chain reaches maximum level you can activate a bomb. There is a rapidly increasing rank counter once your chain is maxed out, so you'll have to bomb eventually. You also get bonus points when you use your bomb, which increases with your rank level and the amount of enemies that were affected by the blast, though the bonus point gain is incredibly atm. Whenever you use a bomb, your chain also resets to one.

I think the whole rankbombing thing might be somewhat unnecessary, as it is something I added at the last minute and probably doesn't mesh well with the multiplier affecting shot/laser kills, though otherwise keeping up your chain might be too easy given how the game works atm. Alternatively, I could increase the speed at which your chain decays, or switch to your chain instantly resetting to 1 instead of decreasing by 1 if you don't dashkill anything for a while. Any suggestions?
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https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/#shmupg

Get the fuck in here, sperglords.
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>>150554687
Post a webm as example. It's really hard to tell how it really works and feels simply from reading about it.
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>tfw you will never be able to accomplish this feat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLbUgM0eWd4
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>>150555882
this is what it looks like at the moment
https://webmshare.com/RABMq
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>>150557027
Is this a methodical memesterpiece or danmaku bullshit?
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>>150557583
neither, it's memeshit
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R type power rankings
Leo > 1 > 2 > the rest
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>>150547512
>virgin
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>>150560390
You thought he meant the girl?
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>>150560212
Wrong

2>1>Final>Leo>Delta
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>>150560390
Rosa is a virgin!

>>150560553
>implying that I'm a beautiful, young, talented and charismatic virgin that everyone adores
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>>150561193
Last thread already was Deathsmiles territory. Can't you post SHMUP girls from anything else that isn't DS or 2hu?
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>>150562428
Nope

Deathsmiles is love...
Deathsmiles is life!
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>>150562428
I don't really have a collection of things that aren't Deathsmiles though... but I guess I can give it a try!
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>>150562428
>SHMUP girls
Why limit it to females only?
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>>150557249
Why won't the big laser ship die?
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hellsinker is my favorite methodical masterpiece
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It's working so far!
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>>150565546
Cho Ren Sha is my favorite methodical masterpiece.
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>>150550967
>Only shmups can have in-depth planning!

lol fuck off twat
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How many credits did you feed today shmupg?!
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>>150569043
None because Gradius doesn't have continues.
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>>150557027
Look at Advanced Hardest leaderboards instead, there are 0 clears.
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>>150569043
None, because I didnt need them.
Also because Cho Ren Sha 68k doesnt have credits.
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How early is too early to start them down the path of the shmup?
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>>150571046
That is so cute.
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>>150571046
dawwww
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>>150569785
>he
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Is Mushihimesama good enough for someone who's never played a shmup?
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>>150573513
it has novice modes if you want to ease in, and it's built around its three difficulties so you can stick to original if you wanna, or you can move up as you clear.
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>>150573513
Yes.
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>>150557249
It certainly looks unique, but I think the dashing mechanic is really strange. Why would the pilot dash into everything the whole time? What is the logic behind this power? I could imagine this also easily can lead to cheap deaths, where you dash and then immediately die afterwards, without being able to anything against it.

To me it kinda reminds me of Zangeki Warp with the dashing system, but in Zangeki Warp the dashing, or warping actually makes sense, because you get forced to warp. In your game it doesn't look like you are forced to warp (or dash). The only reason the player does it is to increase the multiplier. And why would you use a bomb which destroys your chain, when you also easily could just dash away?

TL;DR: The game is too easy. There is not enough reason to dash (perhaps implement more bullets and also environmental hazards), and the dashing also refills way too fast.
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>>150575265
where are the bullets, eggman
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Rosalie continues to maintain a dominating lead, with Cattleya in the distance behind her.

Demon girls fight amongst each other at the bottom, trying desperately not to be the one to come in last place. Digitalis worst girl.

>>150571935
Oh right, it was supposed to be shmup girls. Whoops.
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>>150575348
Sorry, is this better?
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>>150574196
>>150557249
What I would do is make the dash mechanic into a charge mechanic, so that you first have to charge before being able to dash. And get rid of the bomb, since the dashing is already OP enough.
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>>150576319
ahhh yeah, sexy ass bullets

*cock explodes cum everywhere*
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>>150576574
Stop that. We have trouble enough keeping people in this thread without having mess everywhere.
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>>150557249
Dude, moving background left-right following your ship is pretty inconvenient. Why dont you make it static?
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>>150579501
You do realize a ton of shmups do this right?

Though the scrolling in his game does seem a little too fast.
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>>150576574
*wipes you down*

there there
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>>150579890
All the fast ship shmups I can think of are static
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>>150579890
But not for modern shmups I guess? It's confusing if the background is space, the enemy bullets looks like following your movement too.

For the ground, I remember Raiden has similar behavior, you're likely get snipped by tanks by the time you moved to unexposed area, which is bad design I think.
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>>150579890
>>150580492
I can only think of Raiden IV doing this in recent memory.
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>>150579501
I think the problem is that the screen tracks the player ship perfectly while being centered on them while in other games the background moves only when the player is closer to the edge of the camera. This is easily fixable in Game Maker by adjusting the view settings
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Made it to loop 3 of Batsugun Special.
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>>150582750
holy shit nigger learn to crop.
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>>150582817
I think it's cute
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>>150582750
nice paint edit dude
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>>150582949
i want to kill myself but don't want to hurt my family. wtf do i do? everything is lost. everything is shit. i play shmups to distance myself from how far society has fallen. i swear to fuck we've lost control. i need a fucking break. they're sleeping sound while i watch the fall of rome. fucking kill me.
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so who wants to STREAM
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Do you guys wear diapers when you play just in case nature calls during the third stage of CCWI?
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>>150585765
No, stage 3 is ezpz
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>>150585765
nah, panties feel the comfiest when playing shmups
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>>150588512
Stream it Yorgay!
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Hey why is the thread dead? Bottom of page 10 is dangerous!
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>>150592661
Grazing practice
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I don't know if I should stream Mushi or finish killing the rest of the superbosses in Etrian Odyssey 4. I'm not sure which one sounds more difficult at the moment.
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>>150594307
STREAM MUSCHI NOW
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>>150594731
Fighting giant bugs either way, I suppose.

http://twitch tv/harrykoakuma
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>>150574196
You do get some short i-frames during and after the dash, so you do get some leniency in terms of not dashing into bullets. You can dash fairly quickly in and out of dodge, hence why an energy bar is necessary if you don't want to cheese everything. This wouldn't work as well with slow dense bullet patterns as you'd have no room to dash, so I opted for faster and bigger bullets instead. It ended up working as a crowd control/speedkilling mechanic like Sonic's Homing Attack, as more enemies on the screen can make things near-impossible with the amount of continuous bullets they fire atm. Your spread and laser are fairly weak, as dashkilling is a guaranteed kill.

I was still working on enemies which would fire slowly-turning telegraphed straight lasers which can't be dodged by any conventional means other than dashing, though I couldn't properly implement that yet. The bomb thing is indeed too OP and I wasn't really happy with it. The moving screen edges is something I have no idea why I added it in the first place either. I suppose I can change the way how the energy bar refills (recharges for each enemy killed with spread/laser) Dariusburst-style, though I'll need to change the way the scoring works (increase chain by quickly killing enemies with the regular shot as dashkills get the multiplier bonus? so you can either save up dashing energy for defensive purposes or use it immediately for scoring)
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Daily reminder that Kraut is this dumb

>First danmaku game was Batsugun by Toaplan. While the company had some members from Cave it was still a totally different company.

Also, it's not like they reinvented the wheel or something, by simply putting more bullets on screen and making the hitbox smaller.

I find Cave generic, because all their games are simply quite generic. There is nothing special or outstanding about them, apart from the insane difficulty perhaps.
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>>150583354
>everything is lost. everything is shit. i play shmups to distance myself from how far society has fallen
Fuck told you wankers so, most players are hedonistic man children who are total shit at dealing with real life.
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>>150571046
Ugly fat armed little gay cunt, no one wants to see your spastic offspring.
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>>150594951
Stream over, thanks for watching. I'm gonna go get destroyed by a giant bug in a different game now and then go to bed.

Or maybe I'll play Galaga and- ... mm. Fuck.
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>>150557249
What's the music from?
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>>150600819
Sounds like Battle Garegga all the way
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>>150595182
>It ended up working as a crowd control/speedkilling mechanic like Sonic's Homing Attack
I see, I know it's all just still placeholders, but then you also must have a fitting ship design though. Just having a regular ship for this would look weird. It should turn into some kind of very robust ball or something when dashing, kinda like Sonic.

>(increase chain by quickly killing enemies with the regular shot as dashkills get the multiplier bonus?
Yes, this would be better I think.
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>>150600819
>What's the music from?
Just how could someone be in this thread and not know battle gareggas ost?
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>>150602762
Just how could someone be in this thread and be such an autistic faggot?
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>>150602762
Because Battle Garegga is not a Cave game.

There, I said it so that nobody else has to! Now I'm going to bed. There's plenty more shmupping to do tomorrow after a terrifying sleep filled with nightmares of giant murderous bugs and purple everywhere
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argh
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>>150608531
>MAME
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>>150603203
No idea you'll have to ask Kraut.

>>150608531
Fuck sake cmon that game is easy, just stay back most of the time and move left and right. I cleared it on mame with zero slowdown only losing one life so you shouldn't have any problems.
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>>150609210
mame>steam
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>>150610884
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>>150611849
Reminds me of nerds candy
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>>150608531
I'm having trouble with that too. Keep at it!
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>>150611381
for scrubs that need crutches like savestates sure
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fucking 4 stage
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>>150617178
I played mame and never used savestates, i know right? mind blowing.
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>>150622910
no one believes you though
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there is literally nothing wrong with savestates for practice
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>>150617178
But I dont want to make it through 6 stages just to practice Great Thing
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>>150623705
Yes they do because of inps, fucking dippy cunt nugget.
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>>150626064
nice TAS lad
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>you will never be as good as vixy nyan
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>>150628606
You don't need to be good if you're a cheater.
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>>150630703
>practicing is cheating
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>>150630864
>not play on arcade is cheating
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>open stream
>streamer isn't as good as vixy nyan despite using crutches like practicing and autofire
>close stream
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>>150633253
post your score
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>>150630864
>using framestep macros isn't cheating
Fuck you, Vixy.
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Can't blind 1cc a shmup on your first attempt?

You should just fucking quit shmups right now.
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>>150633253
This new meme sucks
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>>150633563
it's a mediocre meme
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>>150633503
nobody 1cc game on first attempt
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>he can't WR on first credit
are you even trying
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>you'll never ever have as many cheevos as vixynyan
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>>150634243
input lag disturb me
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WHAT
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>>150635420
I dont know what I'm supposed to be seeing here other than a dumb loli that must be punished.
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>>150635792
You see that flashing core way into the upper right? It's not supposed to be there.
It's supposed to be attached to one of those mecha-dicks.
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>>150634562
>being a cheevo whore
>any year

Millennials were a mistake.
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>>150637394
spoken like a true shit that can't get any cheevos
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>>150634010
Not with that attitude you can't.
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>>150638005
The only 'cheevo' I need is a highscores table.

Anything else is faggotry for faggots.
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>>150638771
high scores are for faggots too
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>open stream
>ship hits bullet
>close stream
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Who's the best shmup livestreamer, and why is it icarusfw?
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>>150638618
BE ATTITUDE FOR GAINZ
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>>150645090
>Mahjong
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>>150645090
>Who's the best shmup livestreamer
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>>150645586
look at that colgate smile
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>>150617178
>he has to use botnet software to play his shmups
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>tfw it's been over a month since gus streamed
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>>150645586
BOOMER
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anyt good gamepad for shmups?
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>>150638771
>The only 'cheevo' I need is a highscores table.
>Anything else is faggotry for faggots.
This so much.

>>150639640
Shut up and fuck off you plebling faggazoid.
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>>150634010
I 1cced mushi og 1.5 on my first go fyi.
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>>150655361
Check out Sega's Coolpad, for coolgamers such as myself.
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>>150645586
gus would be the best if he streamed more than just caveshit
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>>150657285
cave owns b*tch
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>>150657285
gus only plays caveshit
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Has Gus played MMP at all? Or does he refuse to because he's a vegan?
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>>150657930
Cave superplayers don't acknowledge Yagawa's abortions.
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>>150655592
With savestats.
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Mushi Maniac is hard. Maybe I'll skip it and go straight to clearing Ultra. At least then the grief will match the accomplishment.

This is a horrible idea, Windia. Go away and don't come back.
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>>150658368
Harry pls go.
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cave shit
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>>150658443
Fuck you Gumby!
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>>150658781
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>>150658368
Do it
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>>150658368
Harry pls strm.
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>>150658208
>With savestats.
1.5 isn't even dumped you unbelievably moronic failure of genetics gape.
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>>150655361
This is what I use.
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>>150659061
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>>150658443
stream or gtfo

>>150658368
stream
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twitch tv/rockleesmile
almost 300 viewers for Deathsmiles
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>>150666486
>only using autofire as Casper
>literally nobody even paying attention to the game

I feel empty. Please, pray for my beloved Casper.
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>>150666486
I feel spoiled after watching Harry play. This guy is so bad.
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>>150666486
I lasted a minute
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>>150656887
btfo gaymers
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>>150666486
>activating Death Mode
>Going to the Gorge
>He thinks this will somehow unlock a secret character

I don't even... I wish I could help Casper right now.

>>150667619
I don't expect people to play well or score like I do, but there's something about this stream that's triggerin' me.
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>>150663350
gross
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>>150668094
If you don't save Casper from this, no one will. It's up to you.
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>>150668864
How can I help her?
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>>150669878
STREAM
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>>150670108
But I'm not home right now!
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Shumps!
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>>150670338
Casper will never forgive you for this!
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>>150672949
That's okay for now, I know how to change her mind. I just have to make it up to her later.
>>
/vr/ sure has been getting a lot of autistic shmup posts lately.

It's quite amusing.
>>
>>150675967
>a lot of autistic shmup posts lately.
There was a really bad one on /v/ earlier. Some guy said he was done with 2hu and wanted suggestions. People said play CAVE and some anon flipped his shit raging about spaceships.
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>>150677014
>tfw some fag in a /v/ touhou thread called me a "shipfag" when replying to someone asking what non-2hu shmups were good
Who the fuck do they think they are?
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>>150677014
God do I love /v/ sometimes.
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>>150675967
>faggot raging like a madman at anything that isn't Touhou like he has an agenda against them

Assholes like this are why there will never be harmony in the shmup community, and that makes me sad.
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>>150677014
>implying spaceships aren't infinitely cooler than magical little girls
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>>150677384
I like all the spaceships in Bug Princess. Reco is so T H I C C her nickname is NCC-1701
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>>150677940
Wat's the top-left jet from?
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>>150670108
You stream
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The Mame pack in the op is neato, good job fellas.
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>>150678413
My guess would be Raiden, but i'm a mobileposter so you go check that yourself.>>150683063
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I feel like streaming but I don't feel like playing shmups. Maybe I'll stream something else and then try shmups later.

Have a picture of a half-naked British chick with a completely unfitting name.
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>>150687727
Stream a Mario Bros 3 romhack.
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>>150687727
Her spider-web patterns get me so hot and bothered. No idea why I like them so much.
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>>150687815
I guess I could do that but I don't really know of any.

Otherwise I was gonna stream an all-emeralds run of Sonic 2 without Tails.
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>>150688027
Communist Mario 3 is breddy good.
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>>150688027
>all-emeralds run of Sonic 2 without Tails.
do this instead
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>>150688496
Sanic is poop.
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>>150688992
I like poop.
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>>150688325
Looking it up now, is this just Mario 3 but with altered graphics and the coins harm you? That's what the description comes off as. Not saying good or bad, just wondering if there's more to it than that.

>>150688496
I probably will do this first. It shouldn't take *too* long so I'll see what can come afterwards.
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>>150689338
Pretty sure the level design was altered, too.
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>>150689609
Ah, alright. Stream is starting with Sanic as soon as I finish patching Mario 3. After mental strengthening, I'll also play Mushihimesama.
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>>150569043

None, because I'm trying to get gud.
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Bump.

>>150690859
Stream started by the way.
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>>150690930
garegga sux
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>>150694417
Not as much as your mom, though
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Convenient bump.

>>150690859
>>150692740
Sanic stream is over, starting Communist Mario 3. Mushihimesama after that.
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>>150698683
Needs more random MAME shmups.
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>>150699024
Needs more random MAME shmups from your stream.
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>>150553228
How'd it go
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>>150698683
OBS decided to go to shit all of the sudden so the rest of the Mario 3 stream, and Mushihimesama, are cancelled. Now I'm bored again...
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>>150701270
>I'm bored
Stream Mushi
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>>150701270
Muschi pls.

And no shitty Arrange music this time!!
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>>150701270
Arrange music FOREVER pls
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Which sprite would you fuckle?
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>>150701585
>>150702408
Er...but OBS isn't working right now for some reason, it drops a ridiculous number of frames. I can't stream.
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>>150703096
now i mad
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>>150690930
>None, because I'm trying to get gud.
Well you can start by bombing the birds on stage 2 then which will beat your hi score.
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>>150703540
Take it out on Rosa, apparently no one likes her anyways.

>>150702557
I dunno. That one I guess!
>>
after seeing all the heavy derping over touhou i decided to dl the double dealing character demo. id never playing anything from team shanghai alice before. why do people go nuts over this shit? is it just a bunch of weebs masturbating over the girls? the music was ok but the other production values were amateur at best. i've seen better looking flash games on newgrounds. i know it's made by a small number of people...but crimzon clover was too.
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>>150705216
2hu sux.
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>>150705216
CC also took 5 years of developement. One of the reasons why 2hu is so popular is because there are so many games of it.
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>>150705216
Double Dealing Character is a relatively weak entry in the Touhou series, I think. Perfect Cherry Blossom, Imperishable Night, and Subterranean Animism are generally considered the best I believe.

>is it just a bunch of weebs masturbating over the girls?
That's why a lot of people go nuts over it. "Touhou secondaries" refers to the people who indulge in the fandom but don't actually play the games. It generally seems like the people who play a lot of shmups tend to rank Touhou shmups on the lower end of the spectrum though. I like playing Touhou personally, I just haven't done it much in a long time.

>i know it's made by a small number of people
A single man actually, I think.
>>
bumo
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It's the time of night again where the thread is completely dead. Let's talk about something to keep it alive. Anything.
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>>150677014
There's a guy on /v/ who says he's one of the top 5 shmup players outside of Japan because he got the platinum trophy in Sine Mora and Raiden 4
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>>150705216
Whilst i don't disagree with you it really makes you look a complete pleb when the only comments you have concern only aesthetics.
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Speedo... down, ga.
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>mfw getting to the moai heads in Gradius
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>>150678413
That looks like a Valkyrie Fighter from a Macross SHMUP if you ask me
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>>150714472
>he thinks moai levels are harder than volcano or speed stages
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>He plays games that weren't made by CAVE
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>>150715815
The moai heads are where I keep dying. And after I die I can't recover. I've never made it past them.

>>150716032
Of course I do! Who doesn't?
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Well, at least I got a new Galaga PB. Maybe tomorrow I can get past the maoi heads in Gradius, too! Also

>Round 17
>everything starts to go sanic
>sanic tractor beam
it was both amusing and terrifying.
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>>150717378
Gradius on nes? It is much easier than on arcade.
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playing on keyboard too tires me
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>>150723461
Is it because of the keyboard specifically? Or do you get tired from all input methods.
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>>150713238
i played 10 minutes of a demo that's supposedly a weak entry of the series. it wasn't even fully translated. i'm not going to pretend to be qualified to comment on intricate mechanics, scoring, or anything else. i barely knew what was going on and for all i know the full version could be completely different.
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>>150725407
My gamepad is broke, on keyboard i cant relax.
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WARNING WARNING * *Inaudible Gibberish* * WARNING WARNING
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>>150729232
it touhou?
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>>150730119
>>
Stick is good for shmups, but for fighting games it's horrible.
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>>150733303
Lol desu
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>>150733303
This is what you need.
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>>150733684
it touhou?
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>>150734365
it touhou
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Is THIS Touhou?
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>>150735997
Who is the cutest Garegga?
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>>150736101
black heart!
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Mars matrix so hard. For who this game? Fucking hell.
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>>150738415
Use the bullet absorby thing more
But yeah even with that its tough
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>>150736851
dumb nep poster
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>>150738963
dumb dumb poster!
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will there ever be a western stg dev as good as cave? will there ever be any dev of any genre as good as cave?
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Trying to play with stick for the first time. Should my elbows be on the table like when I play on Kb+mouse or not? Putting it on my laps is kinda unsteady.
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>>150741272
Whatever feels best
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>>150741272
Cave is Ubisoft, all games some shit.
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>>150741379
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This is a cute puru.
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Am I the only one obsessed with DOJ?
This game's perfect
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>>150744498
youve got it the wrong way up
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>>150744498
>>150746890
Methodical as fuck.
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>>150744498
Too hard for me. ;_;
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>>150748776
Nothing a couple hundred hours of practice cant fix anon.
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>>150748776
BL first loop is alright, way easier than Ketsui or SDOJ I think
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Just methodicalize my masterpiece up.
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>>150741272
Sit cross-legged, play on the floor, mount the stick on something, push the stick against a desk edge while keeping it in your lap for more stability, or attach the stick to your legs with tape.
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>>150716032
One-trick ponies pls go.
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>>150738415
Get that MM counterstop and make xoxak proud.
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>>150744498
DOJ is fun!
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I can't defeat stage 4 mid boss if sdoj man
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>>150716032
1051541451431641621571721571511441234567881234567812345678123678326470547
2999999259923478990124999995689902993413269916749953349999914649932724997
2994567809912568990139956799809929936781467998299634699818991169966144990
2999994569970124995699801323459999012615302799995324993243699019923412993
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2994567801992689901239967899029939945745315319931253399436998011992349950
2998012345299999388352999991039953991232012479934673289999982640499999415

Step1: Highlight the numbers
Step2: Ctrl and F
Step3: Put 9 in
Step4: Enjoy
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>>150757306
highlight my benis and put it in your butt :DDD
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>>150757306
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Bump
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>>150762208
I could never figure out how to throw the things where I wanted them to go. It's like Mario 64.
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>>150762668
so long gay bowser
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>>150762208
Best Dreamcast shump.

IKARUGA, EAT YOUR HEART OUT!
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>>150763312
b-but muh methodical masterpiece
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>>150762668
It's been a long time since I played Triggerheart Exelica but I think it was similar to flinging off of the wheels in Scrap Brain Zone from Sonic 1, where it maintains momentum from the direction it was swinging at the point of release.

Assuming it's spinning counter-clockwise, releasing it at 3 o'clock (which would be the midway point of the upward swing) would fling it straight ahead. Release at 2 o'clock (the later stage of the upward swing) to fling it diagonally left. Release at 4 o'clock (before the midway point of the upward swing) to fling it diagonally right.

Of course this is all in theory and from a spotty memory at that. I could be wrong.

>>150763312
I only played it on the 360. I was surprised to find out that it's now backwards compatible with Xbox One and saddened that the Deathsmiles games still aren't. I recently got Twitch for Xbone, so I suppose it's possible I could stream Triggerheart Exelica sometime...
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>>150763815
Buy Raiden V and stream!
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>>150763945
I would, but >$49.99
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Guhe
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>>150764351
>not supporting the latest and greatest shmups
enjoy your freeware indie meme games
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>>150769125
Freeware indie meme games are the best
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>>150763815
>buying Microshit's products

Shame on you, Harry-kun.
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>>150769125
If it makes you feel any better for some reason, I don't buy AAA games at such high prices either.

>>150770041
It's okay, I bought it used! Although I guess I did buy Gears of War... b-but besides, Deathsmiles is only on 360 anyways for console ports, so if it weren't for my 360, I wouldn't have Casper!
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Ok, playing on stick is weird. Sometimes I can move very precisely and it's not lucky dodges. Often I can't handle the complex movement patterns and just die. I get 90-95% of my "pad score" in practice mode but it takes a lot of tries to reach the end of the stage.
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>>150771098
Keep at it!!
Or switch back to pad idc
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>>150771098
keyboard is most precise anyway
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>>150773709
niceme.me
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>>150775645
armpit water?
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>>150775781
Yes, Cattleya's.

No, I don't understand why.
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>>150776286
But Cattelya can't bottle armpit water, she is a cartoon

Some kinda false advertising going on here
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ur a fag if u wouldn't drink cattleya's armpit water Tbh
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>>150554687
Trust me bro, the game will be better if you leave out these opaque chaining/rankbombing systems.

If you want to make it more complex add more weapons or something.

Don't try to force people to play in a way you think is stylish by implementing some autistic wacky numbers system. If you want to make something like that, that's what scoring is for. Leave it out of the actual game mechanics though.
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>>150569043
None because based icycalm taught me the correct way to play.
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gus pls strm
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>>150776286
Did you buy it? How much?
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>>150780072
Nope and I have no idea but probably more than it's worth.
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Any anons here have an xbone?
Did Raiden V turn out good?
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>>150783224
tfw huge Raiden fan but not huge enough to justify getting an Xbone.
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>>150783224
Fighters 2 > Fighters Jet > Fighters > Raiden DX > Raiden II > Raiden > Raiden IV > Raiden V > Raiden III
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>>150783224
DX > V > III > IV > Raiden

Fighters series are not Raiden games.
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>>150784831
What about II
>>
>3 that high
>1 that low
top kek
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>>150784831
>V is second best

Piss off, Pajeet. We're not buying your Xbox garbage.
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>>150785201
why play 2 when DX exists

>>150785232
1 is boring compared to everything that came after

>>150785447
>i'm too poor to afford xbox so it's bad >:(
kys
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>>150744498
I'm getting back into it after taking a small break for two weeks. Made it to 1-4 yesterday.
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>tfw you're stuck at a concert drinking with friends instead of spending the evening with Reco-chan
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>>150787848
>out with friends
>but posting on 4chan
Dude
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>>150787364
>poorfag meme
Not gonna work, Rajul.
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All Raiden games are trash anyways.
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>>150787364
Even if I had as much money as Donald Trump, I wouldn't give a cent of it to kikerosoft. :^)
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anons pls behave
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I ran out of actually-shmup-related non Deathsmiles girls to bump the thread with, so you'll have to settle for a name joke like this.
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>>150792482
>hasn't even posted the Raiden girls yet
Weak showing, senpai.
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>>150794963
Miclus is cute!

CUTE
>>
Harry play Strania!
>>
sticks are impossible lmao
>>
Harry pls strm a methodical masterpiece like CCWI.
>>
Gus & Gus Jr. are streaming DDP now:

https://beam.pro/SapphireDensetsu
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>>150799605
I wanna be Gus' little doggy!
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>>150799605
>C-L for anything other than babby's first 1-ALL
What a fagboy.
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>tfw aquas will never stream shmups seriously again thanks to memerunning cancer
>>
just fuck my shit up
I'm going back to memeboard
>>
Gus is right.

Imposed counterstops are bullshit, all shmups should have infinite loops.
>>
SOMEONE STRM PLS FFS FOR THE LOVE OF CAVE AND ALL THAT IS HOLY
>>
If Japs call routes "patterns", what do they call enemy attack patterns?
>>
THIS STICK FUCKING SUCKS MAN
shouldn't have fallen for the memes
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>>150806867
told you to stick with keyboard
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>>150807336
I didn't want to fuck my hand but I guess I don't have any other option
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>>150806867
>buy stick
>want to use it but don't want to lose progress in the games I'm currently playing
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>>150806867
Japs set WRs on it. Be a man. Stick is like owning a katana not for show.
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>>150806867
Sticks take practice. For me it took about 5 days to get good with it in shmups. In fighting games I still suck with stick.
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>>150805757
phases
>>
gus's laugh tho
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i want to get gud. which game from the mega link in the op should i start with?
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I want to drink Rosalie's
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>>150810426
I don't know what's in that squirt bottle and I think I'm okay with that but more importantly is that a bkub Souffle button there? The third button down in the right row.
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>>150810375
Why not get gud on a shmup you like instead?
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>>150810375
Forgot to reply to this. Just try whatever and see what strikes your fancy. You should list some other shmups that you like, might make it easier to come up with recommendations.

To start with, I guess uh... go ahead and try some Donpachi, Dodonpachi, Gradius, and R-Type. See if you like any of those. I'm not very experienced with the games in the mega link myself, so I can't really make recommendations too well.
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>>150775645
Are these a joke for Japanese consumers regarding Pocari Sweat or do they really think they are buying bottled sweat?
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>>150811760
I don't really know. Cave is the only one that does things like this, but I don't know much about Japanese merchandising. However, they've apparently also sold bottles of Casper's sweat and Windia's urine so I can't say for sure...

I mean I doubt that they think they're really buying bottled sweat, but as far as suspension of disbelief goes, maybe...
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>>150810375
raiden fighters 2, raiden fighters jet, dodonpachi, darius gaiden, gradius 2, r-type, or battle garegga
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>>150812410
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>>150813021
Cave why do you do this.
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On a somewhat related note, I'm pretty sure I once saw a picture of some sort of canned food(?) with Follett's picture on it. I wanna say it looked like bread. Is canned bread a thing? Is there a fetish for eating canned bread?
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>>150801342
He was probs attracted to the prospect of more viewers and potential FWENDS.
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You'll never sellout shmups for something else, r-r-right /shmupg/?!
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>>150813195
Does it really say pee?
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>>150819608
If it was up to me, I'd get suuuper popular doing who-cares-what and then once I have a large following, I'd use that to bring new light to the shmup community and cause a resurgence!

... Wait that might not be a good idea either.

>>150819929
Yes.
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>>150801154
you mixed up C-S and C-L

C-L is master race like every Laser types in DDP.

Also C-L is the closest to DOJ A-E, which is the best ship ever in every shmup ever (along with Gain in Battle Galore)
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>>150819608
Shmups are my life, I play them casually everyday.
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>>150819608
not until I 2-ALL DOJBL with an OK score
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I'm exhausted, I'm hungry, I don't even feel like playing Mushi right now, letalone streaming it. What could possibly go wrong?

http://twitch tv/harrykoakuma
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>>150806867
If you want to learn how to play on stick without feeling frustrated try to use it to play other genres that you don't usually play.
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>>150792482
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Not even a shmup girl this time, too tired to care about anything. Good night.

>>150821774
Stream over, thanks for watching. I, like, really need to get this clear soon.

>>150824731
This is good.
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>>150788453
Anything that wasn't made by Cave is trash desu
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FUCK YEAH I GOT MY 10 MILLIONS!
CELEBRATE
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>>150825827
cute feet
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>>150744498
SDOJ is way better
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>>150744498
Shitty difficulty balancing. You can practice the TLB as much as you want, to be able to not die there will always be completely luck based.
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>>150823550
Good advice. Super meat boy and downwell work pretty well for this. Although you might need joy2key for DW.
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i want Bat-trilogy on steam
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>open stream
>streamer is a big whiny autist
>close stream
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>>150836917
Y tho
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>>150829186
congrats
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>open stream
>streamer is usually on stage 1 or practicing
>switch to a different tab and occasionally check to see if they ever get a run going
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>>150836831
Only 2 patterns are luck based. The rest is learnable - dodgable, even though it's super difficult. You also need to finely time your hyper refill/cancels.
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>>150836831
I've practiced the TLB for hours and if I follow my route without mistakes I can beat it ~90% of the time. Overall, the whole game feels very balanced aside from the stage 3 boss' final pattern and the stage 4 ink cartridges.
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>>150831402
Why the ship so fat?
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>tfw can't get score extend on stage 1
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>>150844330
Post you're scores. Even pro players need a shitton of luck to not die at the end.
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>>150836831
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>>150846202
Because T H I C C
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>>150847427
I didn't say I don't die there, just that I can clear it consistently with a set number of misses. When you said "die" I interpreted it as "game over", my mistake.
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>>150847517
>>>/dsg/
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>>150846370
That espgaluda feel
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Comiket have doujin shmups?
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Whats up /shmupg/, which of these should I play to learn the genre better and git gud?
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>>150852116
Alltynex Second
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>>150852116
Crimzon Clover would be the hardcore option for trying to git gud I guess, but ALLTYNEX Second is rather easy to play for score.
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>>150852116
CCWI
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>>150851774
There's always a couple new shmups which get released at Comiket.

>>150852116
Crimzon Clover, Deathsmiles and or Danmaku Unlimited 2.
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>>150848056
not >>150847427 but i'm also curious to know you're score
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>>150852860
Absolutely nothing, I still haven't 2-ALLed.
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>>150853789
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>inevitable Psykio bullets
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ganbaado
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>>150853789
you don't need to ALL to have a score
mine is 700m on 2-3, need to work on my 2nd loop routes
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retsugo!
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>>150852116
None, all those games are trash.
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>>150852116
Ikaruga
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>>150852116
Mushihimesama
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How do you defeat the stage 3 boss in KAMUI? I need strats.
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>>150859856
Which one is that again, Ougumo?
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>>150860034
Yes
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>>150852116
Your list needs more Dariusburst, Eschatos and Trizeal.
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>tfw you die to the first bullet
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>>150852116
>not having Strania
>CURRENT YEAR
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>>150860439
I want DariusBurst but the latest is like £40
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>special demonstrations #10 is coming
inb4 garegga again
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My DOJ score is only 2.9 billion, absolute trash
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>>150860556
>tfw you reset all day long and never get even one good run in
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>>150814934
>I wanna say it looked like bread. Is canned bread a thing? Is there a fetish for eating canned bread?
Based on the sweat and urine theme, maybe it was sourdough bread made with vaginal yeast.
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>>150860314
Usually what I just do is take out the two plates on the very front of it during its first form, it'll make some patterns easier. After that just spam the lightning beam and it should go down before it does anything too nasty.

Second form is much more manageable if you use your lightning to take out the homing lasers, it's patterns are pretty easy once you memorized them.
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>>150861790
this shit happened to me earlier today on crimzon clover since i couldnt get the double break after using break on the first segment of first stage even after repeating my usual route like 20 times
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>>150861749
>tfw you only have 3.999999999B in mushihimesama futari
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>>150862436
>tfw 1cc with 3.999999998 score
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What's your favorite Touhou game, /shmupg/?

I enjoyed LoLK!
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>>150864361
this is like choosing between which pile of feces smells the least
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>>150864361
This one.
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>>150864361
I don't know. I like them equally.
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>>150864562
Where are the magical little girls?
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>>150865205
>little girls
See? You answered that yourself.
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>>150864361
IN a best
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>>150864361
SA, hands down.
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>>150864361
Whichever one Reimu was in
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>>150864562
Is this Mecha Ritz? I still need to buy that
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>>150865205
Does this count as a magical girl?
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>>150865751
That depends, is KAMUI a magical girl?
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>>150865746
No, that's Cho Ren Sha.
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>>150864361
PoDD
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>>150865746
Nah, Mecha Ritz is this >>150635420
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>>150865751
>bombing an easy phase

what a scrubshit
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>>150866180
I made that webm like a year ago pls no bully.
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>>150864361
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>>150866902
hi chumdum
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>>150866902
I too, also thought GFW was great.
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>>150829421
OK.

>>150845572
So she decided to see a doctor after all?

>>150861952
That sounds disgusting so I'd believe it.
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>no new arcade shmups for 2016

Where were you when Shooting Gay died?
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>>150871525
Maybe if people buy enough bizarre shit from CAVE they'll make a new game.
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>>150871525
But they are already dead.
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>>150871525
>it's already been 3 years since CCWI came out

Jesus fuck.
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>>150871525
>muh arcadia credibility
Just play doujins you try hard
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>>150872772
iirc it was in june 2014
2013 was the 360 SDOJ year
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>>150871525
STGs are still alive in our emulators.
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Qute and Yotsubane are still making games. Maybe G.Rev too?
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>>150873713
M2 Master Race.
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>>150873092
You're thinking of the PC port. It was out in arcades a year before that.
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>>150872916
Nobody even mentioned Arcadia.

Stay triggered, indiefag.
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What ship should I use in DOJ white label?
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>>150874309
B-EX, it's what all the cool kids are using.
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>>150874309
A-EX or B-EX
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>>150862024
Fuck. I can no-miss until him and then lose all my lives. He never fucking dies.
>>
I still haven't totally figured out when to use the different attacks in KAMUI. I have trouble getting to stage two D: But then I've only played it for 40 minutes or so.
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>>150877259
I'm about an hour and a half in and can close to no miss until the stage three boss where I just get slaughtered. Here's what I know so far. The electrical homing shot can only hit things in there background. You can spam it but if you wait until the bar is full you get more points. The electric beam is a strong attack that you can also use defensively to erase bullets. Upgrades to your main shot and shield extends drop but I don't know why or when.
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>>150877892
Ok the background thing makes sense now. I didn't know the laser could destroy bullets either.
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>>150874309

B-EX makes the game harder to chain and has a bigger hitbox
A-EX all the way
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>>150874119
he said CCWI, so yes PC port
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>>150879651
>cave thought this was acceptable
explain
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>>150882617
>>150775645
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>>150879916
Well we were talking about arcade releases, not PC releases. So 2013.
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>>150882617
that's not even the worst thing about WL, I mean that 2nd loop extend policy c'mon Cave
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>>150885195
It's not so bad, you get used to it after a while.
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>>150862075
It's easy if you followed superplays route. The hard one is the last DB part before the boss.
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>>150867190
hi tursk
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>>150872772
Have you cleared it yet anon? Mine just in time!
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>>150860556
Playing Ibara for score?
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>>150864361
PCB is my favorite, SA is the best. LLS is high-tier because it has my waifu in it.
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>>150879651
C'mon, at least the anime babes in DOJ are really cool sci-fi dystopian stuff.
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>>150864361
MS and LLS just for the ost
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does the octogonal gate do the job for shmups on stick?
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Bomber!
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>>150889738
I don't think it matters much, but I haven't used an octagonal gate.
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Starting a Mushi stream in a few minutes. Maybe I'll get lucky this time?

http://twitch tv/harrykoakuma
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv271961845

Gradius has come to...!
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>>150900434
the absolute madman
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>>150900434
>http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv271961845
>You need to register as a member to use Nico Live

lol no
>>
>>150898807
t. arcadia fuckboi
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>>150896827
it might be time to just practice stage 5
>>
>>150900434
These time limits on streams are fucking trash, why does anyone continue to use this piece of shit site?
>>
What is the twin-tined instrument of mankind's destruction?
>>
harry did it

he fucking did it
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>>150901539
Because Japanese people are dumb.
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>>150851774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7HvaBsdAu4&t=3568
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>>150903181
blah I left after the last loss ofc I'd fucking miss it he gonna keep streaming?
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>>150851774
What is Crimzon Clover?
>>
>>150903953
Cambria Sword seems to be the only non-shit one. Hopefully it gets released online or someone uploads it somewhere.
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>>150903959
naw he's got to figure out what to do with his life now or something
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>>150896827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYmZc1e7gz0
おめでとう!
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>>150904095
I think he meant the next comiket.
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>>150896827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB9SL-mZtVY
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>>150896827
Yay, I did it~

>>150903959
Stream's over for now. OBS started shitting itself just after the run finished. Dunno what I'll do next yet.

>>150904153
Maybe I'll go into speedrunning!

>>150904163
>>150904842
Thanks, yo.
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So Harry's finally been exposed as a memerunner, huh.
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>>150905694
>Maybe I'll go into speedrunning!

Don't even joke about that shit.
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>>150905694
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Speedrunning is fun desu
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>>150907145
It was fun before it became a meme and a laughing stock.
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>>150907145
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>>150907145
Exploiting game glitches to skip game content and making .001-second gains every 500 runs sure is fun!
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>>150907145
It is fun. I had no idea it triggered so many anons around here. Good to know.
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>>150908015
It just triggers the people that are familiar with /srg/
>>
Guys I want to fuck Rosa doggystyle.
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>>150908015
People getting upset over someone enjoying something they don't is honestly the stupidest thing.
>>
>>150908412
>People getting upset over someone enjoying something they don't is honestly the stupidest thing.
>People getting upset over someone enjoying something they don't is 4chan in a nutshell
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>>150908015
The only fun thing about speedrunning is the cringe community, like that chibi shit.
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Speedrunning and score chasing are one in the same.
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>>150905802
I've only tried speedrunning once. I wasn't that good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWSuDGkGQe8

>>150907121
Woo

>>150908207
Why?
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>>150909576
so what's next? ultra? different game?
>>
>>150909576

Because she's hot af.
>>
>>150909576
>>150911216
Get on the DOJ hype train!
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>>150911312
DOJ is hot garbage.

Go play Ketsui.
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he should do casper high score or ccwi!
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Is the thread dead?

>>150911216
Dunno. We'll see.

>>150911264
She's alright.
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>>150914750
>Is the thread dead?
It was always dead m9
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Right, well, I'm gonna stream some whatever for a little while. Don't feel like digging my stick out again, so I'm limited to console emulators. Couple of shmups are on tap as well as other games and I'll just play whatever and chill for a while until I get tired.

http://twitch tv/harrykoakuma
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>>150911791
both are shit
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>>150903181
>harry did it
>he fucking did it
wat he do?
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>>150919474
fultra master race
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Wow.
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>>150924067
Why is Reimu fighting Reimu?
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>>150888165
i did follow it and most of the time i succeed in getting the double break
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC7lUVIN_U8
Moai is meme.
>>
>>150905694
>Yay, I did it~
That really took long enough. Congrats, dude!

>Maybe I'll go into speedrunning!
Don't do it. Reconsider your life choices!

>>150919721
Muschi Maniac 1cc.
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>>150814934
>Is canned bread a thing?
B&M makes canned bread. It tastes... alright.
>>
>>150911791
Pretty sure you got rekt hard and find the easiest reason to not try harder
You probably shit at Ketsui too anyway
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>>150918574
Stream is over, thanks for watching. Lasted a bit longer than a little while but that's cool. Gonna go hug Casper and pass out for several hours now.

>>150925882
It's a Last Word spell, from the Spell Practice menu. What I wanna know is, why is it called Fantasy Nature instead of Fantasy Heaven?

>>150928132
Thanks. I'm still not sure what shmup I'll go for next. I'm thinking... well, I'd consider Daioujou, but that looks hard. CCWI is also on the list of possibilities but again looks hard.

I guess I'm in the mood for something a little easier next.
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>>150911791
Ketsui is hot garbage.

Go play DOJ.
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>>150934994
>>150911791
Cave is hot garbage.

Go play CCWI.
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>>150907145
Sonic CD is bretty good
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>>150931165
Do 1.5 Maniac MAX
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i only play on easy and normal
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streaming mushi original, this time with the game tated so normal people can watch.

https://www.twitch tv/troojg
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>>150940304
nice meme my friend
>>
SaiDaiOuJou is too hard
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Starting a stream in the next few minutes.

twitch tv/infirex

No more jazz for a while.
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>>150940304
CCWI is hot garbage.

Go play Sand Scorpion.
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>>150941385
me too :) 0 1ccs above easy on my belt
>>
>>150942760
Sand Scorpion is hot garbage.

Go play Ikaruga.
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>>150931165
>why is it called Fantasy Nature instead of Fantasy Heaven?
somebody used the meme translator
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>>150942921
This discussion is hot garbage.

Go play your favorite shmup!
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>>150942727
>My current goals
>Crimzon Clover WORLD IGNITION: an Unlimited mode 1cc with a ship other than Type-Z
Good luck!
>>
This weather is hot garbage
>>
>>150942921
Upvoted!
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ikaruga
>>
>>150943530
Can't argue with that.
>>
>>150943578
>http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ikaruga
>Nobody likes football. Or Tekken for that matter. Man I can't stand Tekken. It's one of the dumbest, slowest, and relentlessly boring fighters I've ever had the misfortune of playing.
I like Tekken. Tekken tag was a sweet game.
>>
>>150944363
Speaking of Tekken Tag Tournament.
>the volleyball
>the bowling
Absolute gotyay. Why don't games do things like this anymore?
>>
What do you think of her review of Crimzon Clover? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKGynWxjYaM
>>
>>150945147
You can hear the bull banging her while he plays his shmups in the corner
This is the life of the shmup fan
>>
>>150945406
>You can hear the bull banging her while he plays his shmups in the corner
who gives a fuck? she is unbearable. he should leave asap.
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>>150945147
>I would rather be sentenced to an eternity of Undertale than this
THAT'S THE LAST FUCKING STRAW
CRIMZON CLOVER OWNS BITCH
>>
Yotsubane owns BITCH!!
>>
>>150941539
stream over for the time being
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>>150945147
Who's this and why should I care?
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>>150945147
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>>150942727
I miss the jazz
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Found this safespot on niconico.
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>>150949080
That's the swagspot
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>>150949080
well that's useful
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>>150949080
is this arrange only?
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>>150950406
maniac and ultra too
don't know about 1.5
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Bomber!
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>>150943490
It would be cool to see someone beat Unlimited mode without Type-Z. I'll try to be that someone.

>>150948581
I'll probably have jazz in my stream when I'll have dozens of hours behind me in order to not get tired of the in-game music.

Stream's over and thanks for watching. Also, thanks for those tips, Kraut.
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>>150952772
>Also, thanks for those tips
No problem. Was fun watching someone playing CCWI live.
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Does Reco smell like a dung beetle?
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>>150952374
SHOT
LEVEL UP
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>>150941539
>twitch
>not youtube gaming
kys yourself cuck
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>>150930676
Nah, he is simply a man of refined taste. Ketsui is the least shitty Donpatch game out there, though a DDP is fine too.
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>19XX The War Against Destiny music
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>>150955361
gtfo asap
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>>150945147
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>>150955361
Youtube may be less degenerate than Twitch, but it's still pretty shit.

Use Ustream.
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STGWeekly starting soon.

https://www.twitch tv/stgweekly
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>>150942760
Why wont the big blue ship die?
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>>150958943
More like STGTriannually
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How does counter banking work in Mushi Arrange? I've seen replays from both Xbox360 and PC where players increase their counters quickly in short amount of time during boss fights. And it's not just point blanking.
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>>150958943
>More indie memeshit
Smh
When's the r type episode featuring our boy kbr
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>>150962857
When's Darius Gaiden
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>>150958943
Why can't western devs make a normal fun STg fr a change? Why do they always have to make such weird shit?
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>>150962857
More like Deathsmiles episode with Harry fantasizing about Caspers snatch.
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>>150963647
I thought this was alright.
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>>150965359
yea, but it's simple pixel shit
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>>150965507
At least it's got a nice stye to it even if the pixel art is somewhat simple, the ost is nice too.
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Wow, first green bug in stage 4 of Mushihimesama doesn't have a hitbox.
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Is Sine Mora good?
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>>150964187
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>>150964187
B-but they already did Desu.
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Steel Rondo episode when
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>>150966797
its hated by everyone except game journalists
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>>150968956
Any peculiar reasons?
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>>150968956
anons on /v/ seem to like it
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>>150970050
Nah it's just one guy who seems to think it's the hardest shooter
>>
Play garegga all day, 5 stage boss is my limit.
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>>150971579
protip: kill yourself
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>>150973207
for a second i thought you were being a meanie
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>>150971579
What's bullying you on st5, anon? Black Fart?
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>>150973207
haha i get it
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Are there any Raizing shmups that don't have shit tier pacing issues and weird bugs?
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>>150976897
kingdom grandpricks
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>>150976897
Souky
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Hyper!
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tfw I spent all day speedrunning and forgot to play shmups.
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>>150984810
Have you started HRT yet?
>>
guys I found dedsmiles doujinshi
they're okay
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>/shmupg/ couldn't git gud at shmups so they've resorted to memerunning

hilarious
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>>150985884
Oh boy hook me up with a Rosa doujinshi
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Page 10 already?
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Swimsuit competition event in GoMa ended today. Preview for the next event is as shown, and starts tomorrow (or in about 10 hours probably).

>フォレット

DEATHSMILES EVENT COMFIRMED probably
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A casual walks up to your favorite shmuphu, slaps her ass and then tells you that playing for 1ccs and score is arbitrary.

What do you say/do?
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>>150989806
Tell him to post his scores then run away in tears.
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>>150985913
I'm already as good as you can possibly be at shmup, it's time I master a new type of game
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>>150989806
Show the casual my numerous Deathsmiles 1ccs and my Rank #1 Casper scores on the 360 and Steam leaderboards.

And then put his head through a TV for slapping Casper.
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>>150989806
BOMBER!
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>>150990183
in hindsight, arbitrary did not mean what I thought it meant and I need to learn English

but I guess my answer will remain the same, especially the part about putting him in the TV
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>>150989806
Wonder how the casual is speaking in coherent sentences so shortly after having its hand burnt off.
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>>150990183
>Rank #1 Casper scores on the 360 and Steam leaderboards
do u have replay of this?
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>>150990996
Damn that's methodical
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>>150990996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEnwXYJcSZc
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>>150991196
https://www.twitch tv/harrykoakuma/v/63270750

Here's the video of when I did it live on stream. Otherwise, the replay is available for download on the Steam leaderboards. The Rank #1 run on the 360 leaderboards also has the replay available for download, though it's a lower score at only 241m compared to Steam's 277m run.
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>>150909364
Where are the shmup trannies? You promised me there would be trannies.
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>>150991950
How did you manage to do this? Do the leaderboards not have insane Japanese players?
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>>150992154
Nobody plays Casper.

Well that's not entirely true but the Steam leaderboards have no monster Casper scores. And now that you mention it I should've specified that my 360 score is on the NA version of the game.
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What will you stream tonight Harry?
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>>150992289
I see... but still good job!
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>>150889738
I found it weird and uncomfortable, but it should do the job all the same. Some like it a lot. When in doubt, go with square as it is standard in arcades.
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>>150992626
Harry pls strm Crimzon Clover!
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>>150991950
300m WHEN
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Up!
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Gus laying down the law on stream now.
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https://www.twitch tv/solunas

CHORENSHA!
キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━!!!!!
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>>150996157
gg
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>>150996157
>https://www.twitch tv/solunas
its over already? :(
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>>150999403
Yes, TLB was defeated with zero lives to spare.
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>>150999887
aww i missed. next time!
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https://www.twitch tv/niviv

CC WI
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>>151000385
>https://www.twitch tv/niviv
that blinking doll is freaking me the fuck out
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>>151001039
What do you mean? It's a static image.
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>>151001245
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>>151001039
>>151002176
>the "the static image isn't static" meme
i thought this general was better than that
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>>150990996
nice recover fám, will try it when i practice gradius III aka never
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Does the need to tilt the stick just right for engagement and disengagement create some sort of analogue input delay to your actions, or is it just my inexperience?
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The early bump gets the worm!
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>>151005813
if you mean using analog sticks on controllers i don't think most people use those. i know i certainly don't. it's joystick, dpad or keyboard.
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Extend!
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Press start to continue!
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cavedrones
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>>150970018
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>>151015824
never played i know it goes on sale for cheap and has been bundled though
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>>150970018
>time warp cheat
>shitty power up system
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Is it that time of night again?

Ehh, I don't really feel like playing shmups tonight. Instead I'm just messing around with this thing. It's oddly amusing.
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>>150949080
Ive played a bit of Mushihimesama but Ive never seen those gigantic numbers like that

Whats the deal?
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>>151020649
Did you play Maniac ?
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>>151020816
No, Im a shitter. Im getting into shmups and Ive played a bit of Mushi before. Might go play some today.

>>151014737
Steam port when
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>>151020649
The counters, those big numbers, only appear in Maniac (and I'm assuming Ultra) modes. If you play Original mode then they won't appear.
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Is there an ETA for dfk on pc? And any info about the arrange modes/ black label?
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>>151023428
>Is there an ETA for dfk on pc?
Fall, just the season fall.
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>>150963647
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>>150963647
>>151024640
Jamestown is really fun. I need to play this on the highest difficulty.
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>>151024640
>>151025859
It looks ok, but I'm not digging the art style. At all.
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>>151026039
It plays decently enough tho pal, give it a crack.
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>>151026221
It looks very Cave inspired, which is cool, but the art style is literally tumblr-tier.
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>>151027135
I dunno what you mean but okay.
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>>150989245
I was wrong, the event doesn't start for another day. Oh, la-ti-da.

>>150995163
When I become more worthy of Casper's hand!
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>>151023428
>Is there an ETA for dfk on pc? And any info about the arrange modes/ black label?
Hopefully never, it's honestly a shit game I wouldn't even waste bandwidth on a free download.
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>>151030018
Thanks for contributing.
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>>150940935
>Sonic CD is bretty good
Yup, I owned the mega cd version bitd which has different physics so worth digging out on emulator or whatever. The sonic advance games are great to.
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>>151024640
I want to but it hasn't gone on sale for fucking ever.

>>151027135
>but the art style is literally tumblr-tier.
Well meme'd m'lad! Can you offer any other fine references or buzzwords like "cuck"?
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>>151033085
V7AVC-VMCPJ-NBZ7D
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>>151033179
Woah, thanks anon! Guess I know what I'll be doing this week.
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>>151033291
Have fun, buddy

I am aware that that code was for like 5 games so enjoy those too. BTR is great!
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>>151033490
It was BIT.TRIP RUNNER, Gratuitous Space Battles, Jamestown, and Wizorb. I don't know any of them except Jamestown and I think the guy from BTR may have been in Super Meat Boy. I don't know anything about the game though.
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>>151033795
Thats cool man, hope you enjoy them. Think I got this bundle free buying another one.

>tfw playing CCWI for the first time earlier today
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It's a shame that any game which tries to get inspired by Ikaruga's scoring mechanics will immediately get market as a clone. The mechanics were just too original.
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>>151033490
give me a key too
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>>151035463
Sorry, dont got one buddy. Check IsThereAnyDeal to see if its cheap anywhere near you.
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>>151035295
Dimahoo did it first though
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Semi decent 1.5 max clear today considering this is with the lower scoring M type.
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>>151038629
>
Dimahoo scoring is nothing like Ikaruga...
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>>151038991
Doesn't have to be, it still did polarity before ikaruga though and is an actual fun game unlike shitty ikaruga, I think Ikaruga should be banned from being mentioned here desu.
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>>151039440
Blaargh, keep hating as much as you want, puzzle em ups are the only future
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>implement a whole new weapon system
>encourage people to not use it at all
Why is Cave so dumb?
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>>151038629
>>151039440
Dimahoo's color system is close to anecdotical.
It could have been interesting if there was a button affected to it but it's tied with the charge shot that you need to use so much to get the items. So you don't have much opportunity to choose your color on any given part.
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>>151040459
>>?
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>>151017158
What's wrong with a time warp mechanic? If you treat this like smart bombs it can be pretty cool imo.
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>>151034984
I was watching people stream that last night and realized it's a completely different game if you don't spam lock on laser so much your fingers hurt. It took me a while to get used to the stars but it's not bad.
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Chaining systems, like in Dodonpachi are the best scoring systems. Ikaruga found a smart way to make its own chaining system.

If you wanna hate on scoring systems, hate on shit like grazing or bullet cancelling.
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>>151041882
>Chaining systems, like in Dodonpachi are the best scoring systems
lol no
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Scoring in Eschatos is a lot of fun.
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>>151041998
Of course they are. There is nothing more satisfying than chaining through a whole stage. It's kinda like doing a sick ass combo in a fighting game.
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>>151041882
>risk vs reward gameplay is bad
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>>151042231
>implying chaining doesn't take playing risky and aggressively
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>>151041882
If you drop a chain in the middle of a stage, you lose a ton of points. However if you drop a chain several times at the end of the stage it's not a big deal. Shouldn't more mistakes mean less points?
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>>151041797
It's pretty fun IMO, Im not a shmup expert but I knows what I likes

Great music, too.
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>>151042154
Chaining is boring and depend of hard memorization enemy position. It's not fun.
imo
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>>151042474
Err I meant the blinding stars aren't so bad once you get used to them. The game itself is good stuff. Boost original novice we're my first 1ccs ever so it gets remembered as the game that popped my stg cherry.
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>>151042453
I don't know exactly how this works in DDP, but in Ikaruga you always get punished the same. In contrary, at the end of the stage, you usually have very difficult enemy patterns which can quickly give you a lot of points, so if you fuck up there, it's very hard to come back and you lose many points, more than usual.
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>>151042654
It's not boring, it's just difficult. everything which is difficult requires a lot of memorization, otherwise it would be too easy and boring.
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>>151042826
Ikaruga's chaining is pretty nice, it's a lot easier to recover since the chain bonus maxes at 8.
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>>151042654
Scoring well in anything requires you to memorize everything you possibly can.
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>>151043127
Yea, where does DDP max out?
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>>151042154
>There is nothing more satisfying than chaining through a whole stage
I don't know how DDP's chaining works but this is exactly why I liked Eschatos scoring. It does require a lot of memo though.
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>>151042760
Good to know, Im introducing myself to the genre a little more with it so hopefully I can manage to crack it.
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>>151043354
DDP's is infinite, so if you break a huge chain, you'll be losing a fuck ton of points.
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>>151043768
Yea, DDP games always seemed a bit too punishing to me... More difficulty is not always better, you gotta keep some balance...
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>>151043852
It's not directly about making a game more difficult. Scoring is about rewarding competent play, the only way to sort out the men from the boys is to give the player more opportunities to fail at. Of course this is detrimental to the experience of casuals, but if you're a casual then you have no reason trying to score seriously in the first place.

Though this falls on deaf ears, because someone who doesn't have the ability to 2-ALL should not be scoring unless scoring in itself is more enjoyable to the player.
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>>151044191
The thing is, that when a game gets too punishing, it just becomes frustrating to play. Even in Ikaruga I already had to reset a shitton of times when losing a chain, I don't wanna know how this is in DDP.

There must be a balance to speak to all kinds of score hunters, not just superplayers. In Ikaruga for example, it's very nice that you just can leave out some extra points every now, because not everyone plays like SWY, while in DDP, you basically just have the option between 1CC slut and superplayer style.
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>>151044545
It's not the game which is being punishing. It's you who is being punishing, you're the one setting the standards for yourself. When you reset, don't blame the game when you make the decision to scrap the run.

Besides, you do get to decide what you want to learn in DDP. You can choose which stages to learn and what chains to optimize or ignore anything you don't want to do. You should be the one playing, not the one being played.
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>>151043638
Even if you are new to the genre, I don't think it will take too long to finish novice if you practice. Arcade is hard and Unlimited seems almost impossible.
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>>151045445
>you're the one setting the standards for yourself
Yes, and when the game immediately prevents you to reach this standart through a single mistake already, then you will reset more often of course, instead of still giving the player a chance to come back.

>You can choose which stages to learn and what chains to optimize
When you wanna play for score you will practice all stages of course, that's completely out of the question. And to be able to chain in DDP you gotta make use of almost every enemy, ie if you wanna learn to chain a whole stage (which is what any decent scorer will do), you basically gotta memorize superplays, because the chaining system is so punishing, while in games like Ikaruga, or also Battle Garegga for example, you do not have to play superplay style to chain a whole stage. You always can leave out some enemies.

And even if you lose your chain, it's not the end of the world. You most likely won't be the first on the leaderboards anymore, but you still have good chances to beat your PB anyway, while in DDP, it's much more likely that you are fucked completely if you lose a chain only a single time.

Just because the chaining is less punishing, doesn't mean it's easier to make full use of it. All it means is just that the game gives you more options where to prioritize and it's less frustrating to play. Imagine for example playing an RPG, which goes on for hundrets of hours sometimes, and the game makes you restart from the beginning as soon as you die. That's how chaining in DDP feels, while in Ikaruga it rather feels playing an STG (much shorter, therefor less frustrating when you fuck up).
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Ikaruga is the best game, come fight me!!!
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2hu best game
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>>151050406
>Ikaruga
>best
I am going to stab you.
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>>151050406
It's not the best game but we can still be friends.

>>151050819
Only some of them are.
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>>151050819
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>>151051696
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>>150569785

>he

what the fuck
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Do you think a good shmup must have some original core mechanic, or is it also ok, if it's just a mix of already existing mechanics?
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>>151055770
I want a shmup that combines the game, rank, and scoring mechanics from as many games as possible.
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>>151056963
Cardinal Sins has different scoring for each stage more or less.
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>>151055770
Even if the system is a blatant rip-off of the one of a preexisting game, I wouldn't care. As long as it is fun to play, it's fine.
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>>151057654
Yea, that's what I think. I think it only have to be original if you want to make a real classic masterpiece, but games like Eschatos for example are also cool, even though it's not that original afaik.
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>playing games that weren't developed by kabushikigaisha keibu
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>>151056963
CCWI
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Shmups that allow infinite continues are too easy!
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>>151056963
Seconding Cardinal Sins. It comes with Judgement Silversword too which is a plus.
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>>151061198
Of course they are, thank god.
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I'm really digging Mushi 1.5, what are some shmups with as much or more slowdown? Its like the Viewtiful Joe of shmups.
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>>151041882
Mars Matrix has the best chaining system.
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>>151064969
the VJ of shmups is Espgaluda!
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>>151064969
>slowdown
>enjoyable
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>>151066950
I love it!
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>>151064969
>more slowdown than mushi 1.5
impossible
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>>151066489
>the VJ of shmups is Espgaluda!
Never played it but just read about it, god that sounds fun.
>>
>>151068034
also Blue Wish Resurrection is a cool little Cave-inspired doujin with a ton of slowdowns
>>
>>151066950
I think for extreme bullet hell it's ok.
>>
Dicks!
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>>151063023
>It comes with Judgement Silversword too which is a plus.
2hard4me
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>>151072718
in your fav 2hu
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>>151078290
This artwork is gorgeous. Do you know the name of the artbook this is from or do you have more scans like this ?
You're triggering my love for both Psikyo and good hand-drawn art.
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>>151078290
Nice feet
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Need a new thread
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New thread
>>151081664
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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