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/dbdg/ - Dead by Daylight General

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Infinijuking is a cancer upon this planet and I wish nothing but imprisonment in the worst most torturous ring of hell for ten million eternities for all who use it edition

>What is Dead by Daylight?
Asymmetrical Online multiplayer. 4 survivors scramble to fix 5 generators, while 1 killer wants to sacrifice all of them

>Sounds like evolve
It's not. Survivors have to avoid the killer at all costs, whereas the killer has to hunt for them. Everyone has their own objective.

>General info
Pastebin with most questions asked: http://pastebin.com/DDddy4uE (embed)
Pastebin with all of the values (perks/items/whatnot): http://pastebin.com/vCh6gxR6 (embed)
Saved game with everything unlocked or whatever: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3qmzt3ok3p47xqw/TakeTHATsociety.profje

>Official site
http://www.deadbydaylight.com/

>Latest Patch Notes (v1.0.4)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/359543951733734322/

>Report hackers
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/358415206087328621/

>Report bugs
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/7/
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dead?
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>be the last survivor
>wraith kills me
>wastes like 3 minutes of our time just using his bell and hitting trees and shit as i crawl away before eventually hanging me
wow dude you're so cool
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>>150466201
On that note, any Wraith stories?

>be me
>change name to Justin Trudeau
>always play as Friendly Wraith in all my matches
>grind BP with survivors
>never kill a person
>because
>if you kill your enemies, they win

They're losing the whole time and they don't know it, the idiots.
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>Chainsaw 15 survivors daily

Just fuck me up
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>pull off some super jammy shit and lose anyway
what was it for
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>tfw got saboteur 3 before empathy 2
>when saboteur was only able to appear in my bloodweb at level 32

Entity pls
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>>150468602
This isn't funny anymore.
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take hatches out of the fucking game dude, jesus christ. or at least make it only open after more generators have been done. some faggot doing 2 generators on the other side of the map while i kill his entire team, doesn't deserve to just camp the hatch and jump in as soon as it opens
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>>150468894
if you let that happen then he deserves to get away and you suck
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>>150468858
Here
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>tryhard with sprint burst, spine chill, premonition, and adrenaline 3
>taunts at exit after i hooked him twice when the last gen was powered
>got bailed out by another sprint burst self-care saboteur tryhard when i was trying to balance watching both gates and chasing a straggler

alright
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>>150469336
She's asking you to flee the nightmare with her. Go, go and be with your meg.
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>>150469153
>you suck for not getting iron grasp 3 in your bloodweb!
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>kill 3 people
>still derank
>XDDD
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>playing SWF
>killer hooks me and leaves me to go get a random who got trapped
>friend can't find me because of a glitch where my red aura doesn't show
>i can't see the random because of a glitch where the yellow aura doesn't show
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>>150469976
Korbin will you never learn?
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>game starts, with shit dwight and shit perk
>billy chainsaws 2 and those ragequit
>down 2 gens by myself
>letdothisshit.jpg
>billy sees me and chases me until i eat the grass
>killer was laggy as fuck and goes to the hook, hooks me and still im recovering
>da fuc?
>this keps going until im glitching out with the killer several times
>he doesnt have any idea whats going on
>finally hooks me a 2nd time, and jake saves me
>the killer finds me again, makes me eat the grass again, hooks me and ded

will post 2 more pics of evidence
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>>150470459
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>>150470459
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>>150470459
>>150470681
>>150471162
this is an intentional feature don't worry, you are just disassociating in order to escape
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>>150468894
Holy shit, thank you.
Jesus Christ, the hatch is the most horrendously fucking retarded idea ever conceived.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Jesus.
Fucking.
Christ.
>"Hey guys, the survivors keep complaining that this game of cat-and-mouse requires the mouse to avoid the cat, so let's just completely remove it because they're not good at it."
That's the developers. That is the developers. Fucking frogs. Fucking French Canadian frogs. Good Lord, I fucking hate French Canadians. Jesus fucking Christ. Holy shit, fuck the frogs.
Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. Jesus motherfucking Christ, what a horrible game mechanic. Jesus. Christ. I hope whatever braindead pants-on-head retarded windowlicking spacker even thought that was a passable idea, let alone a good idea, let alone an IMPLEMENTATION-WORTHY idea, gets fucking crucified. I hope that whatever ring of hell Satan decides that the braindead pants-on-head retarded windowlicking spacker who conceptualized this pitifully inexorably hideous fucking excuse for a method of balancing a game winds up in, it's well-deserved.
Holy Christ, fuck the French Canadian developers behind this game. Fuck. Them. Fuck them long and hard with a long, wooden stick. I hope they fucking get splinters up their motherfucking anus (that's likely already been well-explored by Justin Trudeau, the fucking fuck) and hemorrhage blood out their fucking intestines and right into the same festering pile of shit that is called this motherfucking game. Specifically, the same festering pile of shit that is called the hatch. Fuck the hatch. Fuck. The. Hatch.
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>test connection in lobby and it's fine
>Hop into game and start teleporting
>trapper finds me almost instantly
>hits me through a window two seconds after I vaulted through it
>vault over another window and land in a trap
>cheeky trapper shakes his head at me and hooks me
>lag out on the hook and don't lose a pip or my toolbox

Sometimes the lag works itself out.
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thank god that it still gives you the 2500 deviousness for no one escapes if you kill a survivior after everyone else has left.
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Just what the fuck are you suppose to do when 2 of your team mates disconnect right away and the 4th one never made it into the lobby?

On top of that, you're in a killer friendly map like fucking Sheltered Woods.
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>>150471728
How the fuck did he make 15 k points off of that is the better question.
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>>150471728
too bad batman wasn't around hahah ahahaa hahahaha
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>>150471776

No idea. How much does quitter bonus give you?

2 got hooked right at the start of the match. They DCed immediately.

I didn't even bother with giving him chase points. I just walked up to a hook

>>150471994

BATMAN!
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>>150472162
625 brutality plus 1250 sacrifice
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>>150472162
>>150472725
And 2500 for no one escaped.
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5 more games and we rank 1 senpai
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Jakes are just Dwights that bought into the meme
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why the fuck do i have to look around when i'm finished sabotaging a hook? what the fuck? this is retarded.
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>>150468894
if there was no hatch, it'd be far too difficult to escape if you're the last one alive. the hatch must stay.
>mfw assblasted killer tears about one of the few strong things survivors have going for them
killerbabs get out
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>>150474114
Aw, did you get greedy and then get caught?
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>playan
>3 of us survive til the end and open the gate
>teabagging at the end gate
>shitty billy sees this and leaves
>mfw still got a pip
survbros, why are killerfetuses so entitled?
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>>150475137
i wish i had webms of myself pretending defeated at the gate, farming points, then 1 shotting you faggots with my NOED 3 and dragging your ass back into the level as all your teammates run away and leave you to die.
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>>150475891
too bad that you've never gotten me little killercuck, i run out as soon as you make a move.
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>twitchfag in the game
>his link doesn't even fucking work
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>tfw I just realised there's an obvious audio cue for skill checks
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oh, i want to see those shitters call me bad now.
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>>150478063
>burning a mori
>against rank 20's
>against at least 1 dwight
Korbin pls
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>>150478869
i just got level 1, my last game had to use a mori.
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Why all hate Dwight?
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>Prep 3 gens
>They're right next to each other so I didn't want to activate any one of them and have the killer guard the other side like a fucking hawk
>Make my way to the other side of the map
>Not even halfway
>BING!
>BING!
>BING!
>Killer is now guarding the other side like a hawk
>These fuckers didn't work on a single gen
>No hooks are down either

What the fuck were you cock suckers doing this entire time?
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>>150475891

It's just a game, friend. No need to get so angry about it.
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>>150479418

Default character
Newcomers stick with him
Being completely new to the game, they start doing stupid shit like sprint everywhere, sprint vault over everything, dropping pallets when no one is chasing them, missing skill checks and struggling on hooks despite you being right next to them

Dwight is the newbie avatar. If you see a Dwight, there's a high chance that the guy is completely new or an idiot
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>>150474543
The problem is when both of you know where it is. It needs to be reworked in some way.
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>>150469976
We've told you time and time again, don't camp the hooks Korbin you colossal faggot.
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Where's the Meg rule 34?
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>>150481082
I'm still new, can someone explain what the stalemate here is?
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>>150482981
janny doesn't like it
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>>150481082
>teabagging
Mate, if he d/ced right then and there, I wouldn't have blamed him one bit.

>>150483095
If the survivor jumps into the hatch, a ~1-second-long animation of him jumping in plays, during which the Wraith can yank him out and kill him. If the Wraith attacks the survivor, a ~2.5-second-long animation of him wiping the blood off of his weapon occurs (cooldown), allowing the survivor plenty of time to jump in the hatch.
So if the Wraith hits the survivor, the survivor jumps into the hatch while the Wraith wipes the blood off. If the survivor jumps into the hatch, the Wraith pulls him out and kills him.
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>>150482981
heres this dumb thing I just drew
>>150483869
Ah I see cheers
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>>150484001
finish this drawing, as i want to fap to meg's bare ass
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>>150462916
whats the allure of this game
it seems pretty shallow to me
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>>150485576
It's sposed to be the tight leggings she has
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>>150485672
The core gameplay is fun. It's as simple as that. It is a simple game, you are right.
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>>150482981
Mods/janitors been real weird lately about cropped/censored porn it seems.

>no niddles
>no haviana
>no basshole
>no brick
>still get banned
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>>150488403
It's almost as if cropping it doesn't make it not porn
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>>150488737
>no actual sexual act on display
>just the suggestion of one
>hurr still pron!

Also what about softcore porn? Still technically considered porn and yet /v/ has waifu and ass threads all the time.
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The PIPs, Devs. Hans em ovah
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>>150488883
your so persecuted :'(
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Does the bone clapper even fucking do anything? I always assumed the bell was global.
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>>150493329
With Bone Clapper, if a survivor is for example fixing a generator and it's more than halfway done so making tons of noise, you won't hear the bell unless you're REALLY paying attention.
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>>150489791
I'm just saying mate, either stick properly to the rule or forget about it. Don't handwave some NSFW content, but then crack down on other types. If you're going to have a stick lodged up your ass, make sure it stays lodged up there.
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>get a pretty shitty Trapper
>he hook camps one dude
>but there's still three of us up when gates go online
>get near a gate that's already opened
>watch Trapper chase a guy off
>well, open gate and I need points for my pip...
>sneak back into the middle and start on a chest and gen
>dude getting chased escapes out the other gate
>suddenly SSCHNAP
>third asshole got bear trapped in some random corner of the map
>furthest spot away from the two gates (and I saw this guy at my gate earlier)
>no chests or gens near there, so have no idea what he was doing
>being a remote corner of the map he wriggles out before Trapper gets there
>trying to madly finish my gen, thinking he'll run over to my gate (the gate he knows)
>SSCHNAP
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>get found at the start of the match
>Dwight fucking bodyblocks me at a palette
>then proceeds to rescue me in full view of the Wraith
>instead of splitting up, Dwight runs off in the same direction as me
>Wraith of course just goes for the injured Meg instead of the full health Dwight

Fucking Dwights.
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>three people on a generator collectively fucking it up completely
>BANG BOOM BANG BANG WE'RE OVER HERE COME KILL US BANG
I can't help but laugh every time even though we're fucked
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>some ching chong with a name that's all squares joins lobby
>oh well, they'll be the sacrificial lamb...
>match starts and they're on my back, fucking following me
>slam down a palette for no reason
>well fuck it, sprint burst to another gen
>Killer walks right by me and somehow doesn't notice
>99% that gen
>then find basement right next door
>gonna get me some chest loot...
>as I'm coming back up my 99%ed gen gets completed
>could only have been ching chong fucker
>suddenly Killer's on my ass
>do a simple loop around some obstacles, trying to asses where to run...
>Killer seems to get confused and walks off
>literally was unable to follow me around in a simple circle
>even after I slammed a palette down announcing my position
>ching chong later gets hooked
>have a daily to unhook people, so why not...
>as I'm walking up to him he fucking wriggles off the hook

Weirdest fucking game, all 4 of us ended up surviving.
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i'm so fucking sick of ll these chinese wraiths
there needs to be a region lock on this game or dedicated servers, if i have to verse one more ching chong ding dong i'll uninstall
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>catch 4 survivors in bear traps for daily
>get this

progress : 0/4
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>>150497562
Just don't play survivor during gook hours.
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>>150496480
>play against a bunch of rank 20s
>hear generators blowing all accross the map
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How am I supposed to win as Trapper when they just bum rush the generators? I'm really new to the game and by the time I've laid down 2 traps they've practically already escaped.
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>>150500270
Play Hillbilly
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>>150500235

>get hit and lose the killer
>had to encounter claudette twice before she figured out she can heal me
>3 failed skill checks
>she gives up on trying to heal me due to all the jake screams
>move on to a nearby gen
>bang, bang, bang

I find this really funny desu.
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>>150500716
>get hit and lose the killer
>hear noise near a generator
>show yourself and teabag at lightspeed for your friend to heal you
>he completes the generator, then rushes to you and locks you in place to heal you
>heartbeat intensifies
>fails skillcheck
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>>150500881
ALL
THE
FUCKING
TIME.

Jesus christo, why do I have to do the dance of "OH GOD HELP ME YOU DUMB FUCK" so much? Why are people so reluctant to let go of a gen to heal others?
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>>150502628
you're still a fag, come check later
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>>150502846
you triggered cause im a big dick killer god and you are cuck dwightfag who gets my big fat hooks in your boypussy?
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playing survivior is fucking trash
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>>150500716

>in the same game

hi dwight
bye dwight
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Fucking shit game, and I lost 5 whole pips. I'm resetting my rank to 1, it's just so fucking annoying this happens so often. I had the game in my hands too.
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perfect!
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>>150507221
just find one rank 20 who can't get away from you at all, take him to a corner of the map that doesn't have much to juke you with and chainsaw him repeatedly, picking him up and allowing him to break free when you do, then repeat. You should get the chase and chainsaw ritual if you do that.
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>>150507636

Oh I'm not worried, no need for cheap tricks like that. I play mainly billy and it's an easy ritual.
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>>150509031
I just assumed you were being sarcastic, my b. Some people don't like playing the billy, and I usually don't play killer at all so when I get rituals for them I try to get them over with in one game if possible.
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These threads need to quit dying prematurely.
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>>150512912

or lets just discuss it on /v/
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>that team that tries to save you even though you're almost dead and manages to do it through jolly co-op
You guys are cool, I wish we could hang out.
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>>150514463
I do not like going to /v/.
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>>150515746
>one generator left
>jake that has been chased for three or four minutes straight finally ran out of palettes and got caught out on a long stretch finally gets taken down
>entire team follows wraith to basement
>manage to drop a palette on him and get a killer stun but he just keeps walking like nothing happened and descends downstairs
>everyone is in the basement at this point, wraith hooks poor jake and stands in front of him
>we start running in circles around him, trying to bait him off of the hook for even a second
>he does normal swipes but doesn't manage to hit any of us
>finally fucks up and lunges, hitting me as I speed out of the basement
>meg unhooks the literal instant his body is no longer present, then bodyblocks so jake can sprint up the stairs
>meg takes a hit and follows him, the second uninjured jake proceeds to lead the wraith away from the three of us as we all heal each other
>fully healed, we all rush towards the gen next to the gate and power it in like ten seconds and then meg starts opening the door
>see wraith coming from a distance, distract him from the door long enough for meg to get it open
>jake 2 comes sprinting and escapes with jake 1 and meg
>I manage to land a lucky palette stun and barely get enough of a headstart to make it to the gate before getting NOED'd just close enough for my falling body to land in the safe zone and escape

Teamplay rarely works but those special moments where your team of randos all start working like a well oiled machine are magical
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Discovered a new bug today. Downed him with the chainsaw while he was doing the closet spamming exploit.
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>>150519145
>closet spamming exploit
explain
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>>150519435
It's very simple you just hop in and out of a closet to avoid taking damage. I guess his timing was off a bit.
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>>150519623
I've seen ranks 1 try to attempt that quite several times, they've always failed and I've killed them, never seen it working.
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>>150521396
Not him, but as far as I know it only works on chainsaws, and only if they billy is dumb enough to actually run into the closet after you've finished the animation.
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>>150521558
I hit him mid animation with the chainsaw. The game decided to put him downed in the closet. It gave me the prompt to pick him up but did nothing.
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>>150522127
It was probably close to finishing and the down overlapped the finishing of the animation leaving him in that pose but unable to be interacted with since the game doesn't know what to do with a survivor in dying state that is occupying a closet.
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unhook
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>>150471312
As much as i love this game, and the sheer immensity of the erection I have for the concept, why did utter retards have to come up with it? The game is just riddled with moronic game design. Perks that killers are required to have because of survivor perks, coldwind farm minus cowshed is just a big empty shit pile where all the structures are made of out of shit you can see through. The wiggle mechanic is almost pointless because of every killer and their dog running iron grasp because of hook hunting niggers, and even if the hooks were untouched and the killer was being fucked by the bloodweb and didn't have the perk you'll almost always be close enough to a hook that you can't escape no matter how wiggly you are. If they made wiggling trigger skill checks for the killer where if he wiffs he gets stunned you might have a chance. At least they pushed in the infinjukers shit somewhat, but even then they fucked up the window vaulting so you can only vault a window/pallet unscathed if the killer's in another timezone. I think part of the reason is they only read the steam forums, and people their are stupid and all too willing to kiss their asses over every little thing.
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>>150527031
I'd heavily recommend getting rid of that healing perk, what other perks do you have available to you? Spine chill? Premonition? Small Game? Lightweight even?
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Come on /dbdg/. Put on your mixtape and get those rituals done

You did remember to do your daily rituals, right /dbdg/?
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>>150527316

Almost finished with opening exit gates ritual, although its hard to do when you're pretty much forced to use the hatch each game.
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With all these point farming Wraiths I'll be rank 1 in no time.
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does the hatch make a noise when someone uses a key?
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>>150530209
Never mind It does. Just had a hard time finding it.
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>>150530209
Survivor or killer?
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>>150531539
I was a survivor looking for the hatch on rotten fields against Billy. What a goddamn nightmare that was.
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Sometimes being a good guy and letting people farm generators and getting away feels good.

>>150532979
Do you not waste the whole key opening the hatch? No idea how it works since I have never used it.
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>>150534289
Opening the hatch consumes the key but there's an add-on that when equipped lets you keep the key and consumes the add-on. There's another add-on that does the same thing if you die. These add-ons are more common than the keys themselves.
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>>150534430
Isn't there an addon that extends its duration aswell?

I guess losing it is not that easy then.
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>>150535594
it extends the duration of the aura scanning add-ons it can have if I recall correctly.
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Who's the most terrifying killer, /dbdg/?
https://www.strawpoll.me/10907328
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>>150536573
Hillbilly > Trapper > Wraith

Both in terms of what they can do and in terms of their appearance.
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>>150536884
This.
Hillbilly is lore-wise and gameplay-wise the most terrifying.
1.) Due to his upbringing of being locked in the cellar his entire life before breaking out and murdering his family, he doesn't have an ounce of compassion in his entire body, just pure wrath.
2.) He's the most intelligent of all the killers. He created the hooks himself, knows his chainsaw like the back of his hand, and, with this knowledge, crafts add-ons for the chainsaw purely with the intent to torture the survivors even more.
3.) Nothing stops him. With Enduring tier 3 (a Hillbilly-specific perk), even pallets stun him for 0.625 SECONDS.

Not to mention, his face is pretty fucked up, man.
(Also the chainsaw's p terrifying.)
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Is playing killer the only way to farm blood points? I'm a shitty killer and I want more survivor perks.
Does swapping the .profje saves still work? Or has that patched already
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>>150538002
I say hillbilly just because of the effect the chainsaw has on the atmosphere of the game. Anytime you hear that thing rev, there's a possibility that you're going to have this crazed madman charging right in your direction at mach fucking speed.
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>>150538356
Yeah just join the Wraith shitter club. You can rank up without ever sacrificing anyone.
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>>150541116
People keep saying this, but how?
I rank up with Hillbilly far more than I do with Wraith. Wraith is harder for me to play than Hillbilly (and it'd probably be harder for me to play than Trapper if I ever decided to play Trapper).
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>>150541952
Because wraiths farm is what he's saying. It's not uncommon for a wraith to just walking around banging his bell at the beginning of a match until survivors come up to him and start letting him hit them so they can heal each other, fix gens and max boldness etc.

It's to the point where some killers do that at the beginning of a match to fool survivors into coming to him then downing them all once they've started healing each other.
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Unhooking thread.
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>>150536573

Gameplay wise?

Billy.

Your self heal doesn't mean shit if he chainsaws your ass
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>>150541116
>You can rank up without ever sacrificing anyone.
You can do that with any killer. The problem with killers they are too focused on getting kills instead of getting points, hook camping the best example of that.
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>>150546479
The ranking system is extremely flawed. Killers shouldn't rank up if they don't kill anyone and survivors shouldn't if they don't escape. It really kills any tension the game might have.
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>>150546939

That's mainly because the way the game distributes blood points. Everyone is a winner in DBD's design. You get blood points just for participating.

There's no subtraction or penalty system in place to prevent Killers and Survivors from working together to farm. There has to be some sort of discouragement for those conditions. Maybe getting hit not only gives the killer points, but it takes some away from the Survivor's collected pool. Shit like that.
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>When the survivors are unimpressed with your killer performance
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>>150548534

Claudette looks kind of cute there. They need to get rid of the laugh lines, soften her chin a little more, and make her eyes bigger
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HURR DURR WHAT IF THAR SURVIVERS COULD RIGGLE OFF HOOC THEMSELF? BUT ONLY 10% CHARNCe???
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>>150546939
>The ranking system is extremely flawed.
I don't really see the problem with it. You get points for accomplishing certain things. If the game boiled down "you get no points unless you survive/kill" things become a lot more bland.
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i fucking hate twitch streamers
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>>150509260
Not him but, I used to be a Survivor main but lately I've been kicking it up as Killer a heap, ever since they removed infinijukes it's actually fun now.
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>>150549759
You don't enjoy the over inflated egos and chat dick riders?
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>>150527031
>those perks

Shit show famalam.
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>>150550004
i might be doing it to myself, but after they fuck me or someone else on the team over, i go to their stream and watch the vod of them doing it. i also proceed to add them to my "fuck these people over if possible" list
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>>150546939
The entity feeds off of hope. Think of it this way: would you rather get your meat from 4 skinny chickens that are essentially all skin and bones or 2 immensely plump chickens?
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This Wraith didn't know that, when you put someone down and pick them back up, your wiggle meter doesn't reset.
Many laughs were had when he decided to drag me to the hatch to gloat (after having had picked me up and down several times throughout the match).
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>>150546939
>survivors shouldn't if they don't escape.
Nah. That incentivizes doing the bare minimum and escaping while punishing people who juke the killer for many minutes, help people off hooks, but die so the team can live.
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>>150554486
That was your first hatch escape? How?
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Should games have a time limit? Something like 10 or 15 minutes?
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>>150555659
I usually play killer. After being too high rank for my own good as killer (rank 14 getting matched up with infinijuking Saboteur SWF Rank 1s), I decided to start getting BP as survivor (at least until I got myself Iron Grasp).
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>>150554573
I think they should not gain or lose a pip. For me it feels pretty empty to rank up even when I die.
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>>150556991
But then the guy who hides in the basement and then runs out the exit ranks up while the useful guy makes no progress.
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>only 1 pip left for rank 1 again after losing it to bugged lobbies and having to grind 3 ranks back
>play game
>only 2 are going to get away
>standing at the door looking at a jake and waiting for him to leave
>internet suddenly drops
>they give me sacrifice and quitter bonus for those who were left (about 4k)
>score screen
>16k bp
>internet back
>reconnect
>rank 2-1

Fuck me.
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>>150557179
No pip for him either.

I should just shut up about the ranking system because I know the devs will never change it. Too many people would cry
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>>150557909
>No pip for him either.
Why not? How would people pip under your ranking system?
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>>150555864
Only after both the gates are open.
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I had a dream last night about this game. I was on a map that was pretty small, about the size of Rotten Fields or the other small Coldwind map. It was gloomy and gray, kind of like the cemetery in the first Witcher. There was hardly any cover - mostly waist-high piles of something. It felt like a cemetery, but I don't think that's what it was. Anyway, I was there as a survivor and I think there was Meg, Claudette, and Dwight. I might've been Jake. The killer was Hillbilly and Christ I tell you I was terrified of him. Something about the way he limps/shambles around all fucked up like that was unnerving and he even got to chasing me a bit, but I never got hit.

Eventually I found him "afk" at a generator with his back to it, and Claudette was working on it while Meg was behind him teabagging. I don't remember if I ran away or started helping with the gen.
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What is up with the professional hatch campers? They let all the other survivors to rot and just stay near the hatch the entire game.
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>>150558459
It's a sound strategy. I use Deerstalker 3 and kill two, down a third, and then try to down the fourth instead of hooking the third.
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>>150558329
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>>150558027
< 10k reached + death = loss (rank down)
< 10K reached + escape = neutral
10k reached but no escape = neutral
10k reached and escaped = Win (rank up)

Maybe two kills at least for the killer to remain neutral. Not sure about the BP requirement
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>>150558738
>It's a sound strategy.
Only when things have gone to complete shit. I've seen some survivors go for hooks first instead of gens but if things go to hell really quick having two hooks down does nothing while having two or three gens up could mean the difference between you escaping or not.
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>>150558459
Maybe try not getting downed and hooked before we have a single gen up. I'm not gonna waste my time rescuing people like you.
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>>150559195
Oh, I thought you meant killers leaving people on the ground, not parasitic survivors.
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>>150557739
Look on the bright side.
At least you deranked that gatecamping faggot.
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>>150559660
Yeah I guess, he was rank 1 too.
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>>150559763
Exactly!
Plus, it'll be far easier for you as a killer to rank up than him as a survivor.
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>>150559427
I'm ambivalent about the leaving people on the ground strategy. Usually if I know the killer is leaving people on the ground (they don't pick them up after five or so seconds) I go to help them out before you get a everybody is downed situation.
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>>150558927
Don't fucking reply to my posts like that.
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>>150560024
Something tells me it's only a matter of time before the killer starts packing Insidious, then.
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>>150560716
When it comes to perks people seem very set in their ways. I usually always see the same people using the same perks.
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>>150560669
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Meg loves the BBC
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>>150469976
>Korbin still hasn't fucking hit 1
AHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>150562845
>Korbin can't even kill someone 14 ranks below him
AHAHHJAHAHAHA
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>No new customization options for the killers
>All that really fucking cool concept art of the Wraith
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>150563308
I want a new machete for my trapper.
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I love random CTD's while revving the chainsaw.
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>>150561537
Thanks, mind if I save this?
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Is there an easier way to place a trap in the same spot if you're carrying one and a disarmed trap is in the way? It's happened to me a few times and I seem to have to place the trap I have, pick up the trap that was in the old spot, than place it. It's really annoying.
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>killer disconnects
>players lose a pip
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Hey, guys, how would I go about accessing the digital art book if I already have the standard edition?
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stop getting killed next to the basement retarded thread
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I love hosting games from China. Gives the game an extra spook factor when survivors can't move properly.
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>>150576907
>spook
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Is lightweight any good? I decided to test it out but killer had predator which completely canceled it out.
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REMOVE THE FUCKING LUNGE AND AUTO AIM
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>>150580694
Lunge doesn't need to be removed. They just need to restore vault speeds. And tweak the Wraith's lunge. It feels like it has a longer range.
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>>150580898
nah you're wrong, lunge needs to be taken out. killer already runs like a fucking kenyan compared to the survivors, god forbid they have to actually aim their attacks.
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>>150580981
You're not going to be able to catch any survivor with the standard attack. The range is pathetic and they'll always be able to get to a window in time to get enough distance to escape.
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>>150581246
Yeah no, the range on it is reasonable, unlike lunge. You practically teleport with that shit, and there's no downsides to using it compared to the standard attack so why bother at all? They need to tweak it to be less bullshit and not a straight upgrade to the standard attack, or just remove it.
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>>150581246
they're working on getting rid of infinijukes, when they finally do then there will be no need for lunge. i know the prospect of actually having to git a tiny bit gud is a scary one, but it's needed for balance because the lunge is absolutely retarded.
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>>150581554
>when they finally do then there will be no need for lunge
You're not going to be able to hit someone without lunge. They're just going to jump through a window, wait for you to come around and jump again, or run to the next window while you go around. The lunge makes this impossible.

Tweaks are necessary, but removing the lunge and leaving things as is isn't the solution. You cannot down a half-competent player with standard attacks.
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>>150581246
>You're not going to be able to catch any survivor with the standard attack.
Considering you move at like twice their sprinting speed, yeah you will.
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>>150581785
They're not going to run in the open when you're close to them. They're going to be jumping through windows in walled areas that are everywhere. Good luck hitting them with the standard attack.
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>>150581748
you will be, it'll just take some time to adjust from having a crutch as blatantly overpowered as the lunge taken away. maybe you'll have to think about when and where you time your swipes instead of clicking whenever you're 10 feet behind a survivor.
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>>150581967
That's alright, right now it should be at least a bit easier for a survivor to escape, killer is too easy currently. Right now, if you're on a shitty map like Shelter Woods, or if there are no pallets around, being spotted is a death sentence.
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>>150582290
The solution is somehow making it easier to lose killers, not making it easier to dodge them for days.
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>>150581967
>They're going to be jumping through windows in walled areas that are everywhere.

That's the god damn point

Right now, those windows and pallets don't do jack shit because of lunge. They're suppose to give you a slight lead and a chance to escape pursuit, especially since there's no dodge mechanics.

Being able to hit someone who successfully vaulted a window is complete horse shit.
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So, are they ever going to fix that map with a house so designed that the survivors can be literally uncatchable?
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>>150582909
The solution to that is simply to make the lunge not have ridiculous range when going through windows.
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>>150582532

The solution should be to remove the lunge attack and readjust the vault grab timings so that it's easier to grab. Maybe make the grab a lunge action only.

There's no reason why you should have access to a lunge attack (with auto aim) when you're out in the open. The survivor is basically fucked at that point.
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>>150580898

>don't nerf lunge
>restore vaulting speed instead

Holy shit, do you WANT killers to play nothing but the fucking wraith? Playing the Hillbilly is already a fucking pain, doesn't need to be made harder because the Wraith is OP.
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>>150583442
>Playing the Hillbilly is already a fucking pain
>Billy
>Pain

Anon, I'm gonna be honest here

You're awful at this game. Play something else. No one should be seriously considering your opinions.
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>>150583442
I want a lunge nerf, and a standard attack buff. I want it re-balanced.

That is not what you (or the other people I have been arguing with) have been proposing. The complete removal of the lunge was proposed.
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>>150583732
as it should be. there should only be one attack, the standard attack, with no lunge or auto aim portion attached to it. that's too much. killers already have a plethora of advantages over survivors, this doesn't need to be another one.
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>>150583442
>wraith
>OP
You can't be serious.
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>>150583646

>I play survivor exclusively and I get rectally demolished because if I run in a straight line in the open, he can knock me down instantly
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>>150583809

No way man. Killers have it too hard.

It's just not fair that survivors don't have a perk that allows them to hook themselves or a gesture that gives away their position. Being a killer is tough. They need to even the playing field for us.
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>>150582532
They should make it so when you lunge attack you can't turn and make it slightly slower.
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>>150583976

Yeah, lunges should be hard commits. There's no reason to ever use a standard attack when lunge attack has the added range, auto aim and still possess the same recovery speed.

A failed lunge should take slightly longer to recover, and it provides the survivor a minor meta game where they can dodge if they guess right.
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>>150583976
Sounds good to me. Killers will be reluctant to use it because it allows survivors to swerve and dodge, but at the same time they feel a need to use it because they might not be able to get close enough to hit them with the standard attack before they leap through the window. Adds depth and gives the survivor a real chance to get away.
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>>150583938
US KILLERS MAN
man how come NOED only activates when the gates are powered? it should be active all the time, and the speed increase percents need to be doubled too. and why does lunge only activate when i'm 30 yards behind a survivor? this shit should be cross map through walls and shit. waaah waaah waaah, devs need to change my diaper too.
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>>150583880

>can sneak up on survivors, which neither of the other killers can do
>lunging
>balanced
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>Prestige, everything lost
>Play survivor, Dwights everywhere
>Play killer, nonstop Jakes

All fucking night so far, guys just fucking get good at juking.
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>left Jake to bleed a bit so Meg can't get the hatch
>chase her around a bit and she ends up leading me to the closet area where I can't get her
>teabags at me
>chainsaw her
>bring Jake and let him struggle out
>he stands there and self heals

I might not get my sacrifice points but I'll get the 2500, don't worry!
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>pop ebony mori to exterminate twitchfags
>game doesn't count it as no one escaped and i miss out on 2500
>"disgraceful defeat"

still worth it
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Courtesy bump from an occasional lurker because I think asymmetrical multiplayer games are a cool concept
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Why are survivors such giant pussies? These matches last 10 mins you can take some risks.
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>>150548948
I don't see a problem with it.
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After getting the common version of Iron Grasp at level 14, I finally get an upgraded version!
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>>150588243
Please tell me you recorded it all.
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>>150568849
Wrong
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>>150568849
Consider the alternative.
>survivor infinijukes killer and teabags him entire match
>killer disconnects
>survivor ranks up
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>>150594008
nah i don't bother with that, i should have though
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>>150568951
So nobody is going to answer me? :(
Can somebody at least upload the PDF?
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>>150466201
To be fair, I do this if the last survivor was an infinijuker.

I don't play Wraith, though. I'm not a faggot. I just rev my chainsaw.
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Why is this game such a buggy poorly designed piece of shit?
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>>150588243
>>150594008

https://www.twitch.
tv/jhouse0386/v/81668088

at 1 hour exactly, 1:00:00 is when the match begins

it gets hot an heavy pretty fast into the game. couldn't find the other guy's stream video for a different perspective but oh well, enjoy
i found the recording though
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>>150595521
I don't think a lot of us have the artbook. One anon posted the soundtrack a while back but I didn't grab that in time and now it is lost to the annals
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will save this thread from page 10 with some megposting
meg
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>>150596317
>constantly saying cuck
>hides in a window
>wants you to get terminal because you fucked him
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>>150599468
makes killing him feel more satisfying

he got juked hard, i heard his breathing and footsteps and just let him run around to the other side where i was waiting

i wonder if he browses the general
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>>150594708
This. If I can't disconnect to make survivors lose pips when they do something they shouldn't do, then they'll never learn.

I DC when:

1) Confirmation of using an infinite. One can still run to an infinite, vault and move on but if they stay there, insta DC after I give them 3 shame dings.

2) Crawling into that one corner next to a locker on Ironworks just so you can't be picked up

3) Lag switching, because my internet connection is fine and if you suddenly start lagging to your advantage yeah, guess what happens.
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*unhooks and unzips*
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Where are you retards getting the Idea that people lose a pip when the killer DC's. Have you even looked? It hasn't done it since 2 patches ago.
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>>150603391
I'm pretty sure I've lost a pip before in very recent times as a survivor when the killer d/c's. I sure as shit lose my offerings.
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>>150599938
>Twitchfaggots
>browsing 4chen

Nah, cocky Twitchfags are much more likely to go to Reddit or wherever else they can proudly display their name and get people to worship them.
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>>150593558

>all the rng all over again after prestiging

I'm shivering already, since adding teachable perks makes it longer to get any of the one you actually want.

>>150596317

I still wish someone saved the link to that sloppy joe vs twitch kid window humper.
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>>150603391

Arent they just looking at the aftermatch scoreboard thing which shows you losing a pip, but you actually don't lose any?
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>Remove infinite jukes
>Survivors now have a 1% chance of juking a killer if found
>If they don't get downed instantly, it turns into a 5 minute game of dropping and breaking pallets

When will the devs nerf scratchmarks for the killer?
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>>150613357
>killer is distracted with one guy
>what should we do?
>break hooks instead of generators so that when we rescue him he can't hook any of us!
And they don't succeed on rescuing and instead die aswell. It's a survivor problem, not a "killer is op" thing.
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>>150613656
Unless you're in pallet town, it doesn't take very long to down one guy. When I run into a survivor in shelter woods, they're almost always downed in under a minute.
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>>150613908
But in the time it takes for the killer to down him/bring him to a hook/first half of struggling bar you can get at least 3 generators, and then rushsave safely the other survivor.
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>>150613998
>you can get at least 3 generators
That's very generous and assuming that the survivors are perfectly spread out/traveling in one group with knowledge of where the killer is.

Basically, it never happens except in team games.
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>>150614405
>Basically, it never happens except in team games.
Yeah, but having half a brain would work aswell.
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>it's a bugged lobby episode just when I was about to rank back to 1
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>>150616643
Thought it was going to start with only 1 survivor but this was better than expected, I even let the rank 1 farm all generators and run away.
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>>150617361
Do you not have Shadowborn unlocked?
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>>150617761
Sadly not, still leveling up wraith using trapper points while leveling up hillbilly aswell because why not.
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New patch notes. http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/360671352684578563/
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>>150619806
>Fixed an issue that caused the Saboteur perk to decrease sabotage speed when using a toolbox

Holy shit I knew something wasn't right.
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>>150619806
>Fixed an issue which could cause survivors to lose pips when the killer leaves the game
>Fixed an issue which could render a downed survivor unable to interact or be interacted with
>No One Escapes Death: Added a time limit of 120 seconds and reduced movement speed bonus to 3%/4%/4% (down from 3%/5%/5%)
>Shadowborn: Reduced the field of view bonus for all tiers

Thank fuck.
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>>150619806
>Bloodhound: Fresh blood marks can be for 2/3/4 seconds longer than normal (up from 1/2/3)
>Our data indicates that Bloodhound is underpowered.

What the fuck? Bloodhound is stupid good, with or without sloppy butcher. Everything else seems nice.
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>Shadowborn: Reduced the field of view bonus for all tiers
>This perk has was so strong that it was a no-brainer to always use it, especially given the rarity of flashlight experts out there. The FOV difference should still be high enough to be noticeable and give an advantage to those who use this perk, without being an automatic pick.

Niggers
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>>150620260
Dude, if everyone runs a perk (See NOED, iron grasp and shadowborne) then something needs to be changed especially when there's plenty of alternatives. They nerfed them without putting them into the useless tier, just reductions to take off the ridiculous edge they used to have.
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>>150620395
No fuck you change it back.
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>>150620498
With that mentality might as well restore all the old infinites along with old window vaulting speed, un-nerf the toolbox and put the ultra rare teachables back to their original properties right? Didn't think so. Enjoy your first nerf, killerfag.
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That NOED3 nerf is just gonna drag out matches even longer. People will just get their stopwatches out and hid for 2 minutes. They really should have gone with a cooldown timer
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>>150620609
>With that mentality might as well restore all the old infinites

Haha another survivor babe who thought removing infintes was a killer buff.
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>>150620771
Not even him and a killerfag, you're just retarded and can't read at all.
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>>150620771
It was a balance change to make the game fairer and prevent an exploit that enabled players to do something the devs did not plan for them to do and was fixed appropriately. Now that they've ironed out most of the kinks with survivors, they're balancing killers as well. It's just your turn with the nerf hammer, quit crying so much.
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>>150620891
Give me back my fov you little bitch
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>>150621009
Sure, let me just take it out of my pocket.
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>>150621009
Have a flashlight instead faggot.
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>>150620904
I'm mostly fine with everything other than shadowborn getting a nerf.

I do play survivor as well and I'd love for them to reduce the lunge range and make the vault speed faster.
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>>150621245
I'll miss the old FoV, but it was pretty much a direct upgrade that was used by anyone who had it. It makes for a stale meta when everyone runs it, and yet it's counter is useless, even on the thing it's supposed to counter. I feel it was necessary personally, that said I'm still using it so the nerf may have jus made a bit harder instead of getting me to mix up my perk selection like it was trying.
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>>150621485
>may have just made life a bit harder

Man, that fov nerf must be affecting my fucking eyes because I swear I typed everything correctly the first time.
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>>150620260
>given the rarity of flashlight experts
That is kinda because flashlights are still pretty shitty. When you have a choice between a toolbox, medkit, map, or a key the flashlight looks like dogshit.
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>>150621842
Literally the only time I use a flashlight is if it's a wraith and I find one in a chest. I have 30 something in my inventory with countless add-ons that will probably never be used.
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Well Shadow 3 is pretty much what Shadowborn 1 was. Fuck these devs in the ass.
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>>150622404
>Fuck these devs in the ass.
>tfw you love a game but the devs either fuck it up or do a half assed job updating
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>>150622606
I'm just glad they're actually willing to change stuff, they do make improvements, they just fuck up some stuff as well. Ultimately though the game is incrementally improving, just compare it to the beta.
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IDK why you nerds don't use the flashlight as survivor, i generally take one, especially with wide lens and a +4sec duration addons

makes it super easy to stun survivors, especially at range because its just a huge searchlight that gets them in the face
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>>150623189
Only time killers are actually susceptible to flashlight is if they're cloaked (which is just the wraith) or if they're breaking a pallet their face stays in relatively the same spot for long enough to get a stun off. otherwise a simple glance to the side will render the flashlight useless without deterring their speed.
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>>150623370
>(which is just the wraith)
If you knew who the killer was before the start of the match it may be useful since the only killer you can really use it on is wraith.
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post yfw shadowborn is shit now
https://imgur.com/a/fLPda#iXL03oD
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>>150623842
Yeah, but I actually really like that you don't know because it makes a bit more exciting, and rewarding when you can identify it as soon as you start the match. I would kill to know the killer's rank and level beforehand though.
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I'm on the shit list. ;_;
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>>150624203
link the vod
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>>150624035
Wraith and Hillbilly usually announce themselves at the beginning of the match. I like revving up the chainsaw as billy just to let fuckers know they better stay on their toes.
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>>150624006
I think I'm gonna just take it off and put bloodhound on. All those points into Wraith were fucking wasted.
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>>150624297
https://www.twitchDOTtv/kidphix/v/81732753

starts at around 15 minutes
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>>150624203
When I watch twitch streams I always see you show up joe. What perks do you run?
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>>150624338
I know some wraiths and billies try to mask their presence at first by noting their abilities, o try and make you think it's a trapper so that you'll be braver in doing gens early on. Thank goodness for hooks, it's a really smart way to reward survivors who are attentive.
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So am I just plain good now? No need to get shadowborn from wraith?

I think I'll start hoarding points for new killer if it's like that.
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>>150624689
Usually spies, iron grasp, deerstalker and Shadowborn. I replaced spies with insidious that game just to test it out.

Might end up getting rid of shadowborn the fov is almost at default now. See >>150624006
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>>150624203
amazing job my man

can i add you on steam
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>>150625039
How do you feel about insidious?
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>>150624619
>https://www.twitchDOTtv/kidphix/v/81732753
jesus he fucking raped you, im 5min in and u still havent killed him
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>>150624006
Holy fuck, I severely underestimated how much they were going to reduce it. This makes it almost garbage tier now
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>>150625160
Not sure yet only played that one game with it.

>>150625040
Sure I'm not never chatty and probably won't play with you though

>>150625303
okay
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>>150625485
*I'm not very chatty.
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>>150624203

link your wraith game against the window humper, considering you still have that twich vod and timestamp ( hell I could even go through the whole vod to find it )
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>>150625485
So do you still get salty when survivors outjuke you or did the removal of most infinites help lower your sodium level?
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>>150625876
I never had a problem with legit jukes. Kidphix is a faggot and would have used the infinite if it was there. He's on my shit list and will never be removed.
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>>150626143
Glad to hear it.
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>get 10k points
>no pip

?
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Did that deaf anon stick around?
I'm curious how the shadowborn nerf affected him.
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>>150624619
Those streamers always shittalk when they die, that's why i quit lobby the moment one enters.
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>>150626369
Each category can contribute a maximum of 5000 towards the total used to decide if you rank up or not. If you got more than 5000 in one category, any overage will not count towards ranking you up. Did you happen to see your totals?
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>>150625838
That kid with the southern accent? I think he deleted his channel.
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>>150626583
Yeah, well I didn't know about that. Nice to know I guess. I did almost all gens by myself after all.
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>>150626594

the one that played a sad song while he was getting dropped, shame if it was him
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>>150626859
Yeah he deleted his channel. Probably after the infinjuke patch.
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>>150626964

Good laugh nonetheless. Can only keep on abusing the kids with twitch names for more fun content. Hope I'll get to that point one day.
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Man how'd you get hooked when they finally went and fixed some of this shit. Here, let me unhook you for those sweet altruism points man.
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>>150629010
Shit dude, you didn't even move after I unhooked you that last time. You better book it after this one, otherwise you're a dead man.
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/dbdg/, what are your ideas for new game modes?

I would love to see a Home Alone mode that's set entirely in a large, abandoned, and spooky mansion (let's say it's the MacMillan Manor itself) wherein the survivors set up traps for the killer.
Alternatively a 12v3/8v2 survivor-vs-killer extravaganza in which the killers try to kill more people than each other. Jolly cooperation or murderous competition ensues.
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>>150631268
Straight up death match that times you. First guy as killer tries to kill the survivors as fast as possible, survivors can fix gens to add time to his final score (example, fixing a gen makes his time spent killing receive an additional minute or something like that). once the first killer kills everyone, it cycles in a new guy who tries to beat his time. Repeat until everyone has gotten a chance to kill, then award extra points to the guy with the fastest time. It would probably have to either remove unhooking or shrink the survivor team from four to two or something but it would be interesting to see.
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>>150631268
Hide and seek with 8 people, last person to survive gets to leave. Multiple hatches at the end. Everyone starts with random abilities. Maybe no sabotage and no healing. Also maybe shorten the time so you can't stay in one place, make them constantly moving. Doing gens might give give player a bonus of some sort like a speed boost or it upgrades an ability.
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>>150607971
>anyone I don't like must go to this other community. They're all full of hateful, self-important pricks who think everyone else on the Internet is shit, not at all like here!
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Why did they have to nerf Shadowborn, bros? Why?
It was a perfectly fine perk. Literally nobody was complaining about it. Literally. Nobody. Complained. Survivors didn't think it needed to be nerfed, killers didn't think it needed to be buffed. It was probably the most balanced perk that the devs ever shat out. And somehow, despite there not being a PEEP from anybody about the perk, they manage to somehow fuck THAT up.
Now it's just fucking shit. Everything is shit. What the fuck? What the fucking FUCK, devs? Why?
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>>150636120
Looks like most of their decisions were based off of how many people were using the perks, not just by steam forum comments etc. Shadowborn was pretty universally used, only people not using it were those who didn't have it. I guess they saw that as an issue and set out it. Once it drops into almost never used they'll probably bring it back a bit, though probably not as strong.
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>>150636120
The thing they don't realize is they nerfed the flashlight by doing this.
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Whats going on with the dev stream? Did they cancel it?
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Seems all of the interesting streamers in dbd don't advertise by putting twitch.tv in their username
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>>150637489

that's because most of the time its a better experience for the viewers when the streamer isn't recognized by the rest of people in the lobby
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muh stats
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Wow didn't even mention shadowborn. Fucking cocksucker
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>>150639892
?
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>>150640054
on the stream
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Nobody cares about the NOED nerf?
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So anyone ever thought of making an IRC channel/discord room or whatever for this general? I don't really see it surviving too much even if we have 50 IP, general is quite slow and the board is too fast. Maybe survivors could tag along together this way and you at least secure that there's a retard less on your team or whatever.

If enough people care I could make either.
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>>150642087
Do tell my good sir
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>>150642087
Haven't used it in a long time. So it really didn't effect me. I fear people will be just hiding for two minutes now and just dragging out matches.
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>>150642389
>>150620048
>>150619806

>No One Escapes Death: Added a time limit of 120 seconds and reduced movement speed bonus to 3%/4%/4% (down from 3%/5%/5%)
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>>150642087
No I don't care because I don't use it.
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>>150642271
Im down to make it for discord what should i name it?
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>>150642695
Just wait for more people to reply, I don't really want to make a 5 person discord room.
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>>150642460
>>150642580
Why didn't you use it? Its not like there are a lot of juicy perks for killers.
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>>150642919
Sure, I'll hop in.
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>>150642924
Because I'm not a shitter that relies on last minute kills to get his pip.
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>>150642919
I'm already in a TS with other guys usually but I'd probably pop in every once in a while.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzhLwKYIhh0
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>>150643196
beautiful
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>>150642924
I feel like Hillbilly doesn't need it if you have the right add-ons and playing against people with it feels really shitty when you were having a good game before that.

I would have preferred them adding a cooldown after a down instead. No one will bother even using it soon.
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>>150642924
There are plenty of juicy perks. Shadowborn. Spies from the Shadows. Brutal Strength. Deerstalker. Iron Grasp. Hell, even Whispers now that they fixed it.

NOED is for people who fail miserably and need a last minute freebie kill to rank up, even though a decent player can rank up most of the time even when they only get one kill.

NOED can still be used for a final cheap kill, but now at least people will be willing to wait at the exit gate for a minute or so and then come back to save you.
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How hard did Shadowborn get nerfed? I've never used it and had just started leveling up the Wraith (only at level 8) to get it so I could use it on Hillbilly or Trapper. Is this no longer worth it?
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>>150644431
>Brutal Strength
I could never tell if this was actually worth it. I'm not sure if its because I just don't use it that often but spies from the shadows seems a lot better.
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>>150644693
Don't waste your BP. Rank 3 is hardly better than the default. I honestly don't even feel like like playing killer anymore. The low fov fucks with my head too much.
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>>150644907
Even with just rank 2, the 20% speed boost felt like way more than 20% to me. It made a huge difference. And now they've buffed the perk.
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So I made a /dbdg/ server on discord. Feel free to join and chat, any suggestion works.

Invite link that I guess that's going to expire in a day: https://discord.gg/ehKCf
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I can't deal with this fov nerf. I'm done until they change it back.
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>>150647726
Good thing for me I never got to use it.
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>>150649501
I have hundreds of hours played with Shadowborn 3. It unbearable right now.
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>>150649694
I'm sorry to hear that famalam.
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Here's the discord invite that doesn't expire. Please remember to put it on OP next thread. https://discord.gg/Eb3WFHz
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>>150650227
1st few get to be mods for it so come join
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unhooking this thread
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is there a way to make this game run at higher than 5 fps as the killer?
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>>150654249
Are you playing on a wooden PC?
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>>150656110
played another game and it didnt run as badly. maybe it was the map but i usually play survivor and dont get that insanely low fps
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>>150657091
I haven't had any fps-related issues while playing killer, only that one time where my fps lowered to like 1 and I fell out of the map.
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so i had a full team of pizza dwights today
they literally ALL got hooked in the same fucking basement
thank god for hatches
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anyone else getting random disconnects this patch? not losing rank or anything though
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What perks should I use and who would be best to level up next billy or wraith if I want to play trapper?
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Is the trapper a nigger? not able to tell what race he is
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>>150660674
Yes he is nig
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>>150660825
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>>150620395
>if everyone runs a perk

Yeah, saboteur was bugged and I still wound up with no hooks every fucking match. Fuck you.
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>>150620395
No it means the default fov was shit.
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>>150660564
Remove top right one for brutal strength and you're set.
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>>150650227
Nigga the link expired or something it doesnt let me join
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>>150662665
https://discord.gg/MPkBy Here
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>>150660825
I thought the wraith was the nig
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>34 levels worth of points wasted on shitty ass wraith for the teachable i never got

At least i can get bloodhound soon
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>>150663047
Nah hes like white Jamaican
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>>150644907
Well brutal strength is going to see its benefits in a chase in two ways. Lower time to destroy pallets makes it that much harder to get to the next juke point and reducing the amount of time the killers head is looking at the damn ground. Very good perk for putting massive pressure on survivors.
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I've not getting empathy until I get everything else aren't I Mr. Entity.
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>>150666129
Iron Will is probably good for a self-healing build. Makes it easier to get away.
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>Finished getting the Wraith teachables yesterday so i can finally switch to Billy
>Getting used to the chainsaw, easily get insta downs and move at sanic speed across the entire map

Once you get used to the chainsaw he has the best gimmick.
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>>150666994
True, but that's not really my focus. I'm more of the suicide medic type, or at least that's what I'm going for.
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>>150667789
>>Finished getting the Wraith teachables yesterday

You poor bastard
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For reference, here is what I assume is a direct comparison between with and without Shadowborn 3.

The game doesn't properly apply shadowborn until the game starts and if you get that first person immediately bug instead of the slow pan around your killer it's easy enough to compare.

Fucking hate that bug, by the by. Trapper's face just clips into your FOV for the whole fucking game if you get it.
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i dont blame people for using cheated saves. i dont see why someone would want to put in hundreds of hours of grinding to finally be able to get full access to the game they paid full price for
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>>150669070
Yeah, I've had a few survivors escape because fucking face blocked my view.
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When are they going to get rid of both exits spawning right next to each other?
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Getting a little personal Meg
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>>150669070
Probably still worth equipping for the lighting change, but not worth leveling Wraith for when you have other characters to level first.
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>create lobby
>4 jakes insta spawn as a group all with toolboxes
>leave
>exact same group again

fer fucks sake.
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>>150672042
man up you big pussy
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How dark is wood ash + tar ?
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>>150672042
Do you have deerstalker?
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>Ironworks
>Find Jake trying to sabotage a hook in the big building
>Chase him upstairs and back down
>He tries to take the hole in the wall
>Notice what he is going to do and chainsaw dash at him
>Put him on the hook he was trying to destroy
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Does anyone have the Wraith concept art
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Well look who I'm playing with.
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>>150675236
If possible, give him a incomplete unhook on the 2nd stage hook struggle to kill him
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>>150675468
Ended up being a farming wraith of course. I got my pip and got out.
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The fuck am I supposed to do with these perks? I keep losing matches because all the hooks are down by three minutes.
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>>150675991

Simple

Drop them and don't hook them.
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I have never really had an issue with the game at all up until this point. Some minor bugs, some major bugs, but nothing that really made me upset.

>Playing trapper
>Start of the game, find some idiot trying to disable a hook or something right outside of the basement
>Immediately hook them, place bear trap
>I have the honing stone and the shit glove, not the best combo, but all I had
>Suddenly, hear running above me
>Assume they are trying to run interference and trick me into running far away from the basement
>I am honestly fine with that, they only have 1 gen at the moment, I am fine to play along
>Run upstairs, fucking Dwight is inside the building, not trying to run interference, but to get his butt buddy out alive himself
>Hook Dwight
>I don't have another bear trap, about to leave basement to place another one (Bare in mind that the first guy was still alive on the hook as well)
>Hear more running upstairs as I am coming up
>Fucking 2 of these retards jump over me and run into the basement
>Hit one on the way down, then get him down in the basement
>One of them escapes, idgaf
>Now have hooked three people in the basement within 1 minute
>Last guy escapes through trap door
>My score is pic related

I understand the whole point of sacrificing survivors is to please to entity, not only for pleasure, but for sustenance, but this is bullshit. I barely got a pip, and these jokers just flocked to me. There should at least be some sort of time category, or, better yet, a category based on how many generators the survivors lit up. I am not saying that you shouldn't get a pip if you spent all game chasing, trapping, breaking pallets, and you even get all 4 sacs, but the gate was powered so you don't get that generator bonus, thus losing your pip. No, I am saying that if I catch almost every survivors in less than 2 minutes, then I should be basically guaranteed a pip, not pinching pennies like I am now.
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>>150676126

that'd be an option if not for the pool deerstalker level
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>>150676214
pic 1, used wrong pic in first post, whoops
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>>150676214
>>150676423
second pic
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Jesus fucking christ, maybe I will just run this instead of empathy. fuck
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>>150677463

To be able to hide well from the killer, you can't stand still. Unless you're just hoping they won't look at the spot you're in, but many times it's about rotating around an object as they're passing by.
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>>150678863
Rank 3 makes you completely silent though so totally pick that shit up
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Why are wraiths so bad sometimes? Dude was rank 4 and didn't kill anyone.

>>150678863
I know what to do with it, I used it on Jake when I was grinding him for teachable saboteur. It;s a good perk but I've been running med kit with the instant heal add-on for clutch plays so I'm not gonna bother with it until I get it to tier 3. Just trying to hit rank 1 before the reset so that I can get the cheevo.
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>>150679625
>Just trying to hit rank 1 before the reset so that I can get the cheevo
Explain?
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>>150679625
You can reach rank 1 with wraith without even trying, i play billy like a mongoloid and still got rank 1
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>rank 1 killer
>literally cannot kill any of us rank >15 survivors, even with the best perks

What the fuck is this shit?
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>>150681321
>Complaining about a game where everyone got a pip
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>>150681321
He was being nice you fucking retard.
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>>150681793
>>150682580
Wow I just realized I have literal autism.
I mean, I already knew that, but I now realize just how severe it really is.
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>>150677463
What does rank 3 do?
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>>150683832
Your survivor learns to throw their voice, translating your grunts 20m to the left.
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>>150680098
achievement for reaching rank one as survivor

>>150680398
Ranking up as killer is easy, you got to try a bit and not get caught earlier to pip as a survivor. Easier said than done sometimes.
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>>150684446
Kek
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>>150683832
It's supposed to get rid of pain sounds entirely, even when moving. However, it's bugged so it doesn't always work.
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>>150686358
Sounds like the perk is practically essential.
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Anybody else try out Whispers? I had rank 3 already and it seems to work pretty decently. I heard the Entity whispering sweet babble to me and it made me stop my retard charge to investigate. Lo and behold, a Jake was found banging on my hook. Only trouble with the perk is that it'll go off when you're near -any- survivor, downed or hooked or whatever. I guess it's a tradeoff because otherwise you might not ever know that a survivor was hiding in a certain area.
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>>150689395
I think the range even at rank 3 is way too big. I end up wasting a lot of time looking around for people.
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I dunno man just how I feel
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>>150497562
>ching chong ding dong
I lol'd

But yeah, I just "finished" a match with one. Completely unbearable. Best way I've seen to get out of that is to just find the chink's steam profile and block all communication. It will say you escaped, and you at least get to keep the item you came with.


Why aren't the devs addressing the issue with perks being so unbalanced? Why aren't they addressing the horrendous lag issue, and mother of all fuck ups, the matchmaking? It takes damn near 15 minutes just to find a match and have the killer nuke the lobby. It's absolutely unacceptable.
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>>150690331
>1v1 wraith matches

the absolute worst
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>>150690213
Tinkerer is god tier for trapper, if you use some add-ons it makes sabotage toolbox take like 2 minutes
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>>150690213
>>150690481

Whispers is Usable now since they fixed it. I'd say Agitation is Usable as well, and while Tinkerer is situational it is great for trapper and stacking chainsaw charge up addons. I would really like to try an Enduring 3 and Brutal Strength 3 combo but have never gotten it in 98 levels of Hillbilly, while I've gotten Brutal Strength 3 twice.
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>>150690849
I don't know, I'm iffy with Enduring. Getting stunned for .625 seconds is good but I'd rather just not plan for failure and avoid getting stunned
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So what are some fun ways to use tinkerer? Aside of that trap sabotaging.
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>>150690481
The issue with tinkerer on trapper is that it only applies to traps that you've set.
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>>150690849
>I would really like to try an Enduring 3 and Brutal Strength 3 combo but have never gotten it in 98 levels of Hillbilly, while I've gotten Brutal Strength 3 twice.
The hell? Don't you get a new perk every level?
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Just hit me and get your points so I can get mine. I know you ain't pipping son.
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>>150690213
You can place shadowborn in the recycling bin.
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>>150692064
Just leave you fucking scumbag
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>>150692858
The light bonus is still probably worth the perk slot, it's just not a must have.
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>>150695087
I don't care about the light bonus. They could could completely remove it but keep the fov the way it was. Bloodhound or tinkerer are much better picks now.
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>>150693002
I wasn't teabagging or taunting or anything, just waiting for him to hit me so that he can collect his 600 and I can collect my 300. It's mutually beneficial and the game's already over so you might as well not be a fag about it.
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>>150695785
Just fuck off and leave. That shit got old after the first week. We don't want any pity points.
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I've played 5 games tonight and 3 of them were Wraith farmers. This is just getting stupid now.
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>>150697858

fuck em, don't give them points
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I used to feel that Trapper was by far the best shortly after the game's release but now it feels like Wraith has it easiest.

>Can see survivors through terrain when in an 8m radius, god tier on Cornfield or in any situation where they're circling a object to block line of sight. Can just scoot around a generator that's been being worked on and wait for an aura to pop up
>Fast as fuck/no heartbeat while cloaked
>Multiple window hopping nerfs and now Brutal Strength and Bloodhound buff make it extremely difficult to create distance from him (this applies to all the killers but Wraith/Billy suffered most from this due to lack of traps)

Like Trapper can still ruin people with good traps but i can kill people with Wraith so fucking easy now.
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>>150698043
Trapper was the best before infinijukes were tweaked.

But Wraith is excellent at taking out people not smart enough/high enough level to use spine chill or premonition, which means you can quickly kill the low hanging fruit. Good players will beat a Wraith easier than any other killer, except for Trapper if they're all Saboteur/Small Game users.

Hillbilly is the best against survivors who actually know what they are doing.

The only thing that might give the Wraith the edge is that add-on, but I get the feeling that will be nerfed soon as it's frankly complete bullshit.
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>>150698043
I'm sure that wall hack add-on will be gone soon. I think most survivors aren't even aware that it exist right now. Don't see many people complaining about it on the forums.
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>>150698274
Once any of the killers locate a survivor and initiate a chase, they have the advantage.

Trapper has traps obviously and wraith has invisibility+wallhack but Hillbilly has nothing apart from charging across the map in the hopes of spooking someone.

Just feels to me that Hillbilly has no way to find good players unless they alert a crow or really fuck up whereas Wraith can find people just by coasting around and Traps in grass function the same.
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>>150698043
It'd be bullshit if that was actually something Wraith always had but it's a limited addon.
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>>150698626
Hillbilly can chainsaw charge straight to a generator and then check. That's more effective than a trapper slowly running there.

>>150698674
A limited add-on that isn't rare at all and that they will use all the time. Really, the entire add-on and offering system is stupid. Use some very rare stuff and you win, period. Ebony Memento Mori outright removes half the game mechanics.
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>>150698674
>limited add-on
there's like 4 or 5 every bloodweb at high level
PLUS
a few of the slightly worse, 6m range ones

You probably only have to go 1 game in 5 without a tier 2 or 3 wallhack.
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>>150698808
The Wraith needs to be nerfed into the ground, or completely redesigned. It's by far the worst killer and taints the game.

It's a completely braindead killer, requiring zero skill whatsoever to play. The difference between someone who has played Wraith for 5 hours and someone who has played Wraith for 200 hours is negligible at best, while the difference for a Hillbilly would be immense.

The cloak can't be dealt with unless you have Premonition or Spinechill, so if you're working on a generator and the Wraith comes and you're too low level to have the third level of one of those perks, you're screwed. Premonition or Spine Chill are a prerequisite to playing against Wraiths, just as Iron Grasp is essential for killers. Even if you do have it, the wallhack add-on will generally invalidate it. If you're playing with people who don't have Premonition or Spinechill, you'll find yourself the only survivor by the three minute mark.

All of its perks and add-ons are designed around removing the player's need to use their brain. Bloodhound makes it impossible to lose someone you've already hit (which the cloak guarantees you will do so with ease), as if the survivor making tons of noise and leaving blood on the ground (as well as only being a few metres away by the time your attack cooldown ends) wasn't enough. Shadowborn was meant to let you never have to worry about survivors abusing your FOV, meaning you'd never have to look around the way the other killers do. And the favourite add-on is a wallhack. Just disgusting.

I cringe whenever I find myself in a Wraith game because I know there's going to be no fun regardless of how the match turns out.
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>tfw you've stopped taking No One Escapes Death because the game never reaches that stage

>>150699694
As a Wraith player this seems fairly accurate
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Is taking Bell Clapper+"The Ghost" add-on ever a good idea?

Neither of these seem good but i don't know how much clapper reduces sound by.

If the wraith uncloaks on the other side of a nearby wall can you easily tell he's right up your ass even if he's using bell clapper?
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No ;_;
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>>150700235

There will be other keys, Anon. Anyway, would have have REALLY ever used it?
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>brutal strength seems really good, always take it
>it gets buffed
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>>150699694
I disagree a little... Wraith has no tools to deal with juke spots at all. He is just a walking left click. The thing is, is that the wraith is a noob killer.

I actually breath a sigh of relief when the killer is a wraith so i don't have to worry about trapper hook camping with trap under survivor or skillbilly one shotting me. Wraith..? Pop's up with DING DING DING DONG allowing me 3 seconds to start running to the nearest window/pallet etc. Of course you are fukt in the open vs any killer.

Also he breaths really fucking loud, and you can still spot his invis, people rely too much on the terror radius instead of watching for him (obviously he is hard to see) Being invisible is his only redeeming factor.

Sounds like you need to get good or at least take spine chill (Which IMO is a great perk to have regardless to see if the killer is coming directly at you.)
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>>150701141
>Wraith has no tools to deal with juke spots at all.
He doesn't need one. He gets the jump on you easily, requires zero skill to play and like all killers is faster than you.

The problem with breathing a sigh of relief with Wraith is that most players can't deal with him at all and you end up the only survivor when only one generator or two has been popped. Then it's standard hatch bullshit.
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>>150700235
>would have have REALLY ever used it?

No
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>>150701141
>Also he breaths really fucking loud
Not audible until he's right on top of you, and if you're on a generator it probably won't be audible at all.
>and you can still spot his invis
If you're just wandering around, sure. If you're a working on a generator (the way you win the game) and he comes there is no way to know. If you can see him he can see you, but most of the time you won't be able to see him because most generators are surrounded by walls and other obscuring elements.
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I only just started taking Deerhunter and holy FUCK i didn't realize it let you see when other survivors were trying to heal downed players, this perk is legit

Shadowborn, Brutal Strength, Deerhunter and Bloodhound are my go to perks.

>>150701141
there are very few remaining infinite juke spots

on the occasion the survivor makes it to one, you go get someone else and chase them in a way that if they want to get to the juke spot they have to run straight past you

with the nerf to juking none of the killers have much trouble chasing a survivor down, the only issue is locating them which Wraith has the easiest job of.

Wraiths Wallhack beats Spine Chill
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>>150701627
>>150701440
I agree he's easy to play, wraith just runs around invis and you tour the generators. Wraith's ability to get the jump on you is his only redeeming factor.

You can fuck noobs up easy but I thought the general consensus was he isn't as powerful as the other killers with their utility (trappers traps, hillbilly instadown)

I just don't see how he is that overpowered that he requires a redesign. I've never felt completely helpless against him (albeit i do use spinechill or spinechill/prem frequently)
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>>150701958
His mobility, ease of play, wallhacks, and bloodhound ensure he can easily pick people off one by one and there's little you can do about it.

In a game of friends where everyone knows what they are doing and has good perks, sure, the Wraith is probably the weakest killer unless they know they're up against a Trapper and all run Small Game and Saboteur.

But for most people that won't be the case in most games. You'll be playing with strangers and maybe one friend most of the time. The Wraith will easily stomp the idiots/newbies in your group and then it's hatch camp bullshit.

He's overpowered against randoms, basically. But even if he wasn't overpowered, a braindead killer that is designed to be so easy to play an AI could do it is terrible game design.
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Trapper is comfy as fuck.

>setting up traps around three generators close to the shack
>generators other side of map are popping
>don't give a fuck
>survivors come to your house to die
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>>150702291
90% of the time you lose because some Dwight went for a generator as soon as the game stops and doesn't run until the Wraith is on top of him. Wait for the wraith to pass and then start your work. He doesn't have time to search every nook and cranny. If you hear the bell jump on a generator because Dwight just got found out.
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>>150702720
>Wait for the wraith to pass and then start your work.
I can't do that because said Dwight will run around in a circle instead of running to the other side of the map. Everyone else, rather than run to the nearest generator, will just sit in the area where Dwight was hit, waiting for him to be downed so they can fail to save him, only getting hit for their efforts, which results in them being easily hooked as soon as Dwight is dead.
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>>150702503
The only thing I don't like about that is it tends to really drag out the matches.
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>>150702720
>he doesn't have time to search every nook and cranny
As wraith, you don't have to.

All I do is wander around the area and wait for the wallhack to pop. I don't have to check behind anything.
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>>150703225
Smart survivors don't pop all the generators on one side, so you'll generally have one or two people move towards the heavily trapped, protected generators. If you have Insidious or just stay reasonably far away and then check in every once and a while you can scare them into a bear trap.
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is doing this kind of thing poor form?

Even if i wanted to take it easy I would've struggled to make it look legit without coming across as having a stroke.
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>>150704081
Playing Wraith is poor form, yes.
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>>150704264
i'm in it to win it
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Discord Chat https://discord.gg/Zcxjq
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>>150704568
If you can't win as every killer, even at level 1, you're terrible.
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>>150704770
I win fastest/easiest with Wraith though
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>>150705248
I hope you're at least putting that experience into something worthwhile, something that isn't Wraith.
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>>150705891
What the fuck, why was his aura outlined for you?
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>>150706171
Addon.
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>>150706171
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>>150706171
>"All Seeing" - Mud
>While invisible, see the survivors' auras within an 6 meter range.
>Uncommon
Incredibly balanced item.

>>150706586
You don't even need the blood version
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>>150706171
You know how the Trapper's add-ons let him do cool things like carry two traps, or darken them so people step in them easier? And how Hillbilly can do cool things like cripple people so they take longer to heal?

Wraith gets wall-hacks.
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That vulture achievement seems to be bugged.
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>>150706506
>>150706586
>>150706670
>>150706780
That's...a tad ridiculous. The fuck is the point of hiding from the wraith if he can see you through walls? I only played Wraith a couple times at launch, been playing Trapper and Billy ever since
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>>150707014
>finally get three other coordinated survivors
>perform Where did they go?!?
>cheevo is bugged
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>queue with a shitty rank 20 dwight because he smells
>get into a match with two other lowranks and a hillbilly
>instantly hes after us
>friend gets chainsawed
>we all go down one by one
>its almost like he can see us through walls
>check his profile after we all die
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198049560901/

>mfw
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>>150707535
Wraith is designed for braindead players. You just move forward and hit M1. Zero strategy, and all the perks and add-ons are designed around having the game play itself for you.

I think this was even intentional.
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>>150707594
Oh hey I remember him from about two weeks ago when I was watching sxyhxy on twitch to get an idea of how the game plays. Good to see the anti-cheat and report system is working well. Atleast he can't used the bugged rusted chain anymore.
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>>150707594
As the rank 20 Smelly Dwight, can confirm he saw me through a wall.
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>>150690937
It lets you get away with playing recklessly, which I usually do.

>>150691879
You do, but there are so many perks that I've never gotten Enduring 3 due to RNG
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Update on Whispers, after testing it out it's still fucking bugged. I was using it with Deerstalker 3 to find the last guy I downed, and Whispers was active but I couldn't see the guy. I said fuck it and just chainsawed around the map a bit until I found him completely away from where Whispers was previously active.
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>>150707594
>>150707752
>>150707746

https://www.twitchDOTtv/sxyhxy/v/78416046
7h 47m 12s and 8h 0m 0s
You can see opealateo in the list of past names.
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>>150708227
So when Enduring and Brutal Strength are combined, how fast can you recover, break the pallet and move again?
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>>150708419
gonna see if i can add a mod from the discussions board and get a case going with this info, might not work because i forgot to screencap the score screen, but i got the time
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>>150634108
>Twitchfaggotsare so vain they put their twitch url as their name
>even though Killers will just watch their stream
>or just focus their ass because they're interesting targets
>thinking that they will come here and post without a trip
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>>150708432
I'm not sure. I don't know the times but I read .625 seconds for Enduring. Brutal Strength is a really great quality of life perk, and it helps in chases a ton. I'd say it's a pretty quick recovery, lets you run in for that wild strike hoping to bug through the pallet and score a hit.
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>>150690937
>>150690849
Enduring is great for showing pallet-shitters who's boss.
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>>150709832
It does sound nice to be able to risk going for a lunge instead of having to play footsie until they drop it, and then going around.
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>Some bug causes me to lose my pip yet again

Fucking buggy garbage...
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>2 toolbox jakes
>see this at offering screen

Can't wait to have a fun match!
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>>150712397
>Lvl 30
>still no deer stalker
>still no Iron Grip
>all traps sabbed
>all hooks gone
>down a guy
>camp him
>some faggot runs up and slaps him
>instantly healed
DROP THE FUCKING PERK
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>>150690213
>unrelenting
>usable

>fixed whispers
>WHY
>not using whispers + spies combo
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>>150713804
>whispers
>fixed
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>Level 30 only transport perk is Agitation Rank 1

GOD FUCKING CHRIST FUCK, I'M LOSING TO 10 YEAR OLDS.
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>>150713978
>Fixed an issue which caused the perk "Whispers" to trigger when near dead or sacrificed survivors
Or did they fuck up and didn't fix it?
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>>150705891
Oh boy that fov
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>>150714398
What do you think?
Seems to break around when you sacrifice two people from what I've seen for some reason, or maybe it has to do with location.
Either way, shit's breaks once people start dying.
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>>150713428
I'm sorry man. I had no Iron Grasp but I had Deerstalker 3 and 3 gens near the basement so I managed to sacrifice them all. Not after 2 of them struggled out 8~ times between them.
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>>150705891

How do you attack without triggering the blood wipe? I've done it a few times and never figured out how because I'm too focused on the survivor to notice.
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>>150714929
hitting a surface gives an instant timer reset even if you hit a survivor too.
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Why are basements so barebone? The Monstrous Shrine perk, along with describing it as, you know, a shrine, depicts the basement as having a grotesque pile of skulls with a candle. The real basement is four hooks and some closets.
Fuck that, I want truly decorated basements. Elaborately decorated shrines to the Entity. Any of you seen Friday the 13th: Part II? There's a scene where the final girl "finds a rough altar with [Jason's mom] severed head on it surrounded by a pile of Jason's victims, including the corpse of Alice Hardy [the final girl of the first movie." That's the sort of demented shit I really want in the basement. Gruesome decorations strewn across the floor - bones, gore, fecal matter... And skulls, of course.
Obviously the decisions'd have to be unique to each killer.
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>>150714929
You recoil when you hit terrain, regardless of a survivor hit.
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>>150714995

Neat, thanks.
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It really is always Dwight who hides in closets, what the fuck?
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>>150715015
Shit man I'd use Monstrous Shrine if it had that effect.

Sadly for all of the game's graphic imagery, there's a distinct lack of gore and whatnot. I think it would add a bit to the horror if there was some more of it in general, but also what you said would be really cool.
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>chainsaw a guy waiting near the exit for his easy bold points
>grab him before he can pass the point of no return
>hook him
>he doesn't pip
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>>150715841
wtf nerf NOED3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>its an infinite juke house episode
INB4
>but they removed those
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>>150715667
Oh, yeah, there definitely needs to be more gore. I want to feel my chainsaw skewering that Meg, I want to get up close and personal with the Dwight and acquaint his skull to my sledgehammer.

Looking at the game, I feel like the presence of the Entity in the lore really holds back the gore aspect.
For one, no bodies are left behind, so you can't even leave them hanging on the hook to intimidate survivors.
Secondly (more importantly), consider that the end goal of the killer is to bring the survivor to a hook so the Entity can finish them off. While it's still cool, YOU'RE not the one doing the killing. Though you can still chainsaw a Jake or slash a Claudette with your machete, it doesn't really feel like you are actually doing damage to them - you're just transitioning them from injured to crawling so that you can take them to a hook and let the Entity do the work that normally a slasher villain like Jason or Michael Myers would do.
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>>150716661
I like sacrificing survivors to the Helicopter Spider
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>>150717292
I do too, but you can't deny that it takes out a bit of the gore.
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>>150716661
While I guess they might want to keep it consistent, different entities would be cool.

Imagine a tentacle entity grabbing someone, or a worm that comes out of the ground.
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>>150717402
How would those look on the hook though?
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>>150718171
>the tentacles violently rip the survivor up, snapping their neck and bringing the top of the hook with them
>the worm just eats the entire hook post with the survivor
i want it
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>>150718261
>>the worm just eats the entire hook post with the survivor
Or the worm grabbs the bottom half of the survivor and rips them down off the hook.

The struggle animation could also be the survivor using their legs to push the worm back.
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>>150718261
I want Meg to be killed and raped by Entity's tentacles
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>>150718261
Draugr killer when
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>>150719112
entity is pure pls do not sexualize
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Did anyone here watch the dev stream ? Anything worthwhile ?
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Billy is lots of fun. I've been getting better at steering him too. Just need to keep practising.
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She was beautiful why did they have to kill her?

Rest in peace Shadowborn 3.
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It seems like when you start as first person instead of third person as a Killer, you can see your own model. I got to see Billy's hair and eyes every time I revved up the chainsaw, when I crashed and when I sawed somebody. Annoying.
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>>150721829
I'm not sure but I think being alt tabbed while loading into the game can cause this too.
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>>150721829
It's way worse as Trapper. Your head constantly bobs into frame every time you move. It actually fucks up your play really bad because you can't see shit.
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>>150722289
Yeah, I've seen it. Looks awful, feel bad for the player.
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>>150462916
I have a really irritating issue. the chainsaw audiofile is missing, so I can't hear shit when I'm charged. can anyone help?
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>>150725717
Would reinstalling the game or repairing the game files help, maybe?
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>>150725717
Have you verified the game cache?
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>>150725749
I've tried validating and re-installing.
I remember having to download about 5-7 audiofiles separately when I first got the game, because it wouldn't start without them, and the game didn't automatically download them.
seems like I'm still missing the chainsaw one
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>>150725894
yup
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>>150696803
Well I still do it every game, this guy was just particularly upset for some reason and took his sweet time before he eventually did it. Quit making it a pride issue, it's just making the ridiculous grind in this game a bit easier.
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>>150716661
i understand the entity is supposed to take them but it's really immersion breaking that they aren't left on the hook after being sacrificed.
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Have an unhook there pal.
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>3 claudettes and a meg
>what could go wrong
>start game
>place traps
>see no one
>2 gens done at the same time
>go to generators near
>they're started
>look around but there is no grill to be seen
>another generator done
>can't see shit
>SURVIVOR FOUND has popped 4 times but haven't been able to track them for whatever reason
>only 1 gen left, about to cry
>end up seeing a claudette and downing her
>pick her up and bring her to basement, place trap and leave
>exits open by now and 2 have left
>someone ate a trap that I placed on the window of killer house
>end up killing 2 but do almost nothing whole match

I don't even know why I am rank 1.
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>>150731293
Because killers can afford to make mistakes without immediately de-ranking. Either way you got your pip, even if it was a boring game.
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Fucking survivors who SPEND EVERY single moment of their time taking out hooks and completely forgoing generators can go die in a fucking ditch.
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>>150732498
It's the only reliable to build bold points, sorry anon.
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Is there any downside to intentionally disconnecting as a killer?
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>>150735356
you lose three pips and you don't make the survivors lose one anymore.
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>>150735356
Dignity
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>>150735356
Probably, but I've found that if I disable my Ethernet connection then re enable it after the match ends, then I still get some BPs (Game gives me sacrifice and quitter bonus points for all the survivors) and I can make a new lobby instead of getting farmed for points.
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Jump out of hook and unhook thread.
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>>150743365

Just let it die anon, I want to play the gam... oh wait got another webm...

Someone explain, I don't believe it's the same one. I have 1337 confirmed trap disarms.
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I'm gonna hold one survivor hostage every game until they change Shadowborn back. You have been warned /dbdg/.
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>>150745280
How are you going to do that?
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>>150745546
Down them let them almost bleed out and then hook camp them. I will not discriminate whoever I find first will be not be having a fun game.
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>>150745802
How will you signal your intentions? Do you plan to make a video with it and send it to the devs? What happens when the survivor dies, will you get another?
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>>150745916
Maybe change my name or tell the victim if the send me a friend request. I will bleed out another one if I can.
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>>150746163
Well good luck anon.
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What are the most interesting juke spots? I like that spot on the farm with the wooden buildings. A lot of room for mind games for the killer/survivor
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>>150748086
The large tractor/bulldozer thing on farm has an interesting meta to it. Used to be killer would chase you top the top and you'd launch off the right side since it slightly obscured you so you could getaway. Then killers started skipping that and cutting you off at the bottom, so now you go up there and feign jumping only to immediately swap to the other side and book it. It's a terrible spot for creating distance, but I thought it was interesting how much it's own little environmental use has changed since launch.
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>>150748451
It's fun to vault as a killer. How does it even work with their delicate vaulting?
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>>150748451
That's why you get close enough to make the person think you're going to chase them off the right side, but then jump off and corner them in the slide. That's when they try to vault back up, and that's when they meet my chainsaw.
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>>150750827
That's what I was talking about, you walk up like you're going to chase them only to slide off the ramp leading up there since there's nothing keeping you on there and cutting them off inside that tunnel thing where there's no escape. Which is why I don't vault off of that side, only fake it. But it's only good if there's a structure right next to you, otherwise you're just getting downed anyways since the killer can make up that lost ground in a few seconds.
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Why was Shadowborn nerfed?
Literally nobody at all was complaining about Shadowborn. Killers loved it, survivors didn't hate it. It was literally the ONE balanced thing in this entire unbalanced goddamn game. The devs could NOT have fucked it up, yet they did. Fucking frogs.
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>>150576907
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>>150752129
I think a very minor nerf was needed but that's about it. Something between tier two and three but nothing extreme. Adding a fourth of your screen to your vision max level seemed a bit much.
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>>150752632
>lobby is fine
>sudden spike mid-game starts teleporting me
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I wonder if that Mori was meant for me.
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>>150753456
Do you recognize his name or something? I'd assume he's got a daily if he's using it on a lobby with no twitchfags or high rank players.
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>>150752129
When a perk is taken 90% of the time by the players that have access over everything else , there is something wrong with it balance wise whether players realize it or not.

It's like when Novice engineer got a nerf in hearthstone even though literally everyone had access to it day 1 because it was run in 95% of decks.
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>>150752129
Because it was so useful, so essential, that it was a no-brainer perk everyone would always take if possible, and everyone leveled Wraith to get it.

Here's hoping they finally redesign saboteur so Iron Grasp isn't also essential.
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I hope I get Bloodhound at level 30 on Wraith so I can start levelling Billy.
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>>150754221
It's fixed. You'll get it at level 35.
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>>150753692
The name looks familiar but I'm not 100% sure if I BM'd him or one of his friends before.

I know for a fact that Box was after me. Seems to be buds with all the Twitch cancer.
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>>150754505
Ebony Memento Mori needs to be removed.
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>>150754459
Oh, my bad. I guess I'll have to level him to 35 then. Such is life. Only 16 to go.
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>>150754505
>teachables from three different killers
christ
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>>150500716
>Dwight gets smacked by killer
>We end up far away from him as he chases someone else
>Go over to heal Dwight
>He keeps running away from me like I'm about to give him aids
>Let him die next time he gets caught
>Escape unseen
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>>150755145
>He keeps running away from me like I'm about to give him aids
There's nothing more frustrating than this, especially when they know you're chasing them because they saw you and turned around.
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>>150754620
I think it's fine. I had a ton of fun using them myself and they are pretty fucking rare on the bloodweb.

I just found it amusing how he went all out on my lv10 Dwight twice. He really wanted me to die.
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>>150755459
Damn I guess forgot take a screenshot of the second time.
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Unhook.
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I ran around aimlessly on a map for like 10 minutes because I couldn't find the last guys. When I found him I carried him to the hatch but just then he wriggled out of my arms. It was fun.

Also, what's the highest chainsaw sprint you've gotten?
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>>150753887
>>150753892
>When a perk is taken 90% of the time by the players that have access over everything else , there is something wrong with it balance wise whether players realize it or not.

Tell that to Saboteur, Sprint Burst, Self-Care, and Spine Chill.
What a fucking asinine non-reason to nerf something.
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>>150759860
That's the devs' fault for giving characters unique, excellent perks and then letting them get them all on one character with a bit of grinding.

As for Spine Chill, also the devs' fault for making Wraith impossible to deal with without it or Premonition.
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>>150759860
Teachables just need to be removed from the fucking game, at least there'd be an excuse for those perks to be that strong.
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>>150760159
Not removed, but there should be some sort of perk budget so you can't stack the ultimate perks from each character.

If I want to play my Meg like a Jake clone I should be able to do so...at the cost of those Meg perks.
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>>150759860
Did you forget that aside from spine chill they did nerf all of those?
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>>150760320
Even with the nerfs, everyone still runs Sprint burst/self care/saboteur/spine chill if they can. It's my build.

That's what happens when some perks are objectively better in every way than the others. The solution isn't to nerf those perks into oblivion, but to prevent players from using such a combination.
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>>150753887
The default FOV is dog shit that is why everyone went for Shadowborn.
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>>150760284
I think another option would be to apply a penalty to any "off class" perk. Sab 3 on Jake works like usual but half speed on all other survivors.
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>>150760673
The default FOV is dog shit on purpose. It was a design choice. Complaining about it is like complaining about not having third-person view as a killer.

Unfortunately, the Wraith was designed for retards and the perks reflect that. All the perks are designed not around boosting Wraith's abilities but instead around removing the need for brainpower. Shadowborn should never have given an FOV boost to begin with.

>>150760696
That wouldn't accomplish anything. The power in Saboteur is in what it can do, not in its speed. This is why the only reason to fix it and the Iron Grasp issue is to fundamentally redesign Saboteur so it does different things, not simply tweak the numbers.
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>>150760673
That's the fucking point. Killers are supposed to have a dogshit FOV so survivors can hide behind trees and boxes if you lose sight of them for a moment or even to the right of the door after passing through if they get lucky.

Right now with the killers being faster and having so many resources to track you with even when unwounded your only option is to slam pallets all day. Hiding isn't remotely an option.
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It was at this moment that Claudette knew she fucked up.
Want to see the webm of me dealing sweet justice to teabagging gatecampers?
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What if youb could only have one teachable perk from other characters at a time?
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>>150761316
Then you'd have the character's unique perk, one teachable, probably Saboteur unless they are playing Jake, Spine Chill, and another perk of their choice.
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>>150761049
Don't forget that Wraiths can see you glowing through walls no matter how well you hide yourself, and 9/10 killers play Wraith.
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>>150760931
>>150761049
Games with really low fov make me motion sick. I can't even fucking play Killer anymore without feeling like shit.
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>>150761579
This is the only thing that bothers me, it's absolutely ridiculous.
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>>150761712
It makes perfect sense when you understand the design philosophy behind Wraith.

Trapper is all about trapping the right spots, isolating key generators to defend, herding survivors and you even have to plan your patrols so you can efficiently pick up new traps instead of having to spend a minute to grab one trap and come back in the middle of something serious.

Hillbilly has less planning, but it's no less strategic in the end. You have to figure out how to bounce off walls to boost your chainsaw travel distance, memorize the best places to do this on each map, and keep constant pressure on the survivors while still herding them so the last generators are relatively close.

Wraith just cloaks, walks around until the wall-hack picks someone up (if they don't have premonition or spine chill you don't even need the wall-hack) and then hit them. The most strategy comes in approaching from the right direction and blocking them when they try to exit. That is the Wraith's skill ceiling. Now once you hit them, your Bloodhound ensures you will never lose them so they are guaranteed to go down. Do this to everyone you come across, and if you pack Deerstalker you won't even need to use the hooks.

Do you notice the difference? There's no planning or strategy with Wraith, it's just zerging around spamming M1. It's only natural a killer with this design philosophy would get get perks and add-ons that just remove elements of the game and have the game give you the solution for free. Wall-hack means you don't have to search near generators when you suspect someone was working on it but pulled off. Bloodhound means you don't have to rely on sound or thinking like the survivor once they get away, just follow the trail that never ends. Shadowborn, before the nerf, meant you didn't need to look around when passing a wall or entering an area - the FOV ensures the survivor can't hide next to you.

The Wraith is literally designed from the ground up for subhuman mongrels.
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>>150760320
Yes, but people still run them. Should they be nerfed more? Clearly the devs don't think so, but for some reason they saw fit to nerf Shadowborn, which nobody complained about. Meanwhile, people still complain about how everybody runs Saboteur, Spine Chill/Premonition, Sprint Burst, and Self Care, and the devs have done jackshit. Why do the survivor perks get special treatment?
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>>150762884
Plenty of people complained about Shadowborn. I was one of them. It's a braindead perk that eliminates a key weakness of killers and circumvents fundamental game design. And everyone was using it. Shadowborn was incredibly overpowered.
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>>150762884
Before you I've never seen anyone complain about spine chill or premonition.
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>>150762884
Who's claiming they won't be nerfed again if they feel the need to?

I suspect that player "win rates" on both sides are pretty balanced right now so the devs are in a rough spot right now since it would require them to nerf/buff both sides at once and could severely tilt winrates.

>>150763089
It's not wrong for him to complain about it though, both of those skills are basically the same as shadowborn. Everyone runs one of the two(sometimes both) just about and it has no downside while nullifying core mechanics of the game.
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>>150763535
The thing is that you actually need Premonition or Spine Chill to even stand a chance against Wraiths. They're completely broken without them.

You don't need Shadowborn to function, it's just so good that you'd never not use if it given the opportunity.
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>>150763535
I wasn't saying it was wrong to complain about them, just that his statement that people still complained about it was inaccurate. Then again he may be talking about on the steam forums or reddit which I never view so I could be wrong on that point.
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>>150763720
I don't entirely disagree with you. Properly balancing them would also require balancing about 4 other perks and several addons for the wraith. They've got themselves into a jam where they almost need to completely overhaul the perk system which I can't see them doing.
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>>150764121
A complete overhaul is necessary, and I can't see them doing it either. They'll continue to buff and nerf a handful of things a month at a time because they don't have the balls to fix core issues.

Saboteur, for example, needs to be completely redesigned so that it doesn't outright destroy hooks, merely twists them in some way. Same with bear traps. And Small Game shouldn't even exist since there's no perk that specifically counters Hillbilly or Wraith.

The problems with the perk system go beyond simple numbers.
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So, huh, just reposting discord invite link and reminding to put it on next op so I don't have to shill it next time. https://discord.gg/aanwuE6
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Haven't played in a while. Am I crazy, or did they change the survivor camera?
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Rough list of what I think needs changed to give survivors a chance to hide/escape without abusing pallets and vaults plus misc changes.

Buff:
Bond+Prove Thyself (Without making a team of 4 Dwights complete gens in 5 seconds)
Dark Sense
Deja Vu
Closets(Allow downed survivors to fully recover in a closet, hide from deerstalker?)
Slippery Meat(Why run this over small game ever?)
Anything to do with killers affecting skill checks, as it is it just helps survivors to get more skill checks.
Flashlights
Lightborn
Speed Limiter
No One Left Behind
Resilience(reduce blood splatters)

Minor buff
Iron Will(Something to do with blood splatters?)
Quick & Quiet (scratches reduction?)
Agitation (encourage killers to go chasing after other survivors while they are holding someone somehow)
Maps(item)

Minor nerf:
Self Care
Spine Chill
Premonition
Sprint Burst
Bloodhound
Deerstalker
Iron Grasp
Toolboxes
Sloppy Butcher
Fastening Tools

Rework/remove:
Saboteur
"All Seeing" - Mud
"All Seeing" - Blood
Skill checks (currently only aid the survivors if they have half a brain.)

Add perk/modify existing perk:
Reduce blood splatters/time they are up
Reduce scratches/time scratches are up
Perk that improves survivor's speed but makes them unable to/reduces effectiveness of pallets and or vaulting
Perk that reduces the range that killers hear the "chase" music

Sidegrade/minor change:
Hope (Buff it but make it 120 sec like NOED)
Honing Stone(make it so survivors can tell it is active if they look at the trap)

Obviously this list is made assuming this all happens at once, I wouldn't think of a iron grasp nerf before Saboteur gets changed or spinechill/prem without wraith/tracking in general change. Also if one perk got added/changed to reduce blood splatters then stuff like Bloodhounds would need changed less.
Feel free to argue, it keeps the thread alive.
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>>150595652
if you are still having problems with 'infinites' you are trash.
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>>150768220
Bloodhound definitely didn't need a buff, I feel it was only given one as a bone to throw to Wraithbabbies.
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>>150768220
>without abusing pallets
HOW CAN YOU FUCKING ESCAPE THEN IF KILLER MOVES FASTER THAN SURVIVOR?
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>>150768220
>Nerf killers
>Buff survivors
K
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>>150769064
Even with the nerfs to NOED and Shadowborn the game is still overwhelmingly balanced for killers.
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>>150769035
Reducing the ability to track survivors after one hit would go a long way for a start. Running off and hiding after the first hit to recover is impossible between bloodhound and sloppy butcher these days. Part of me wants to say there should be a perk that gives survivors a 3 second sprint or something if they take a hit but it doesn't solve the tracking issue.

>>150769064
Once a killer lands a hit there is almost no reason the survivor should ever escape if you actually know how to track scratches and blood spots. Hiding isn't even a option you can consider, it's just buy time and hope someone gets you off the hook later. With Hillbilly there is no "escape" since you got fully downed and wraith there is no preventing the first hit unless you run Prem/spinechill. Trapper is probably the most balanced killer right now actually. I'm not a fan on instant down traps but it's rare enough I can't complain.
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>come back after not playing for a month
>playing survivor
>first guy gets hooked
>disconnects
>second guy gets hooked
>disconnects
>evading the killer
>hear him start to break a pallet
>go to duck behind a tree
>get caught on invisible geometry
>die

Right, that's why I quit this game.
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>>150770316
Not really a problem once you get out of the shitter ranks.
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>>150770525
Is there rank based matchmaking now? I'm pretty sure they didn't have it before.
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>1 Jake and 3 Megs run around on Autowreckers destroying all my traps and all my hooks
>Proceed to just run in circles around the wreckages and I can't ever get them

How is this balanced in any way? I literally couldn't get a hit on them. They'd just juke around in circles whenever they got near some wreckage, jumping through holes as often as they needed.
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>>150768220
>Nerf Bloodhound and Sloppy Butcher

What....
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>>150771364
Learn to predict jukes, destroy pallets, lunge attack, listen for movement to know what direction they are headed if you do not have LoS. Traps should be viewed as bait just as much as a tool, jakes are greedy as fuck. You are faster than them unless sprint is up and all infinite's were removed/nerfed. No reason you can't catch up and land a hit.
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>>150771917
>Nerf infinite tracking after landing a single hit
Did I stutter? The bloodhound buff was completely unnecessary.
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>>150771954
I'm pretty good at the game. I know how to play. The problem is even if I try and juke them back, they can see me through the wreckage and just double back. The issue it the wreckage itself. Any other match I have no problem doing these things. On Wreckers I can't and any killer I play against can't.
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If someone lags, is it because of the killer? I'm not sure how it works. I've seen some laggy survivors but they tend to have boxes for names.
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>>150763720
Just like how you don't need Saboteur, Sprint Burst, or Self Care to function, but they're just so good that you'd never not use it if given the opportunity...

>>150763089
That's such a minor facet of my original argument that I don't see how it's worth debating at all. My main point is those three perks I just listed.
As I see it, the bottom line is allowed killers use Shadowborn. Devs no like. All survivors use Saboteur, Sprint Burst, and Self Care. Devs like.
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I wonder if shadowborn 3 has dropped to lightborn level of usage yet. The next Dev stream should be interesting.
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>>150773519
If a survivor lags, it is because the survivor IRL is far away from the killer IRL. It'd make sense if some chink with blocks for a name is lagging in your match because he's halfway across the globe from you. If that same chink with blocks for a name is the killer, you (and everyone else who's not that chink) would be lagging as well.
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>>150774163
Thank you! I understand now.
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>>150772127
The devs say to use your environment to hide the blood spatters. Even if the Bloodhound buff was unwarranted, Sloppy Butcher isn't as usable by itself so why nerf that?
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>>150774410
>The devs say to use your environment to hide the blood spatters.
This is just wishful thinking. When you get hit, you barely have time to leave a false trail and double back, let alone exclusively go through grass.
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>4 SWF'ers
>Hook one
>Second tries to taunt me from afar , chainsaw dash at him , he drops
>Turn around immediately and see number 3 running toward the hooked guy , chainsaw him before he gets him off
>Fourth tries to heal the second guy, chainsaw her before she gets the chance
>MFW they all just lie there, not moving anymore while the hooked survivor can just watch

Wish there was a billy version of pic related.
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>>150774410
How the fuck do they have enough time to not only choose what terrain they want to pass over, but do so without running and leaving super obvious scratchmarks. And this is presumably right after you've been hit so you've got even less time to do all this. It's just ridiculous.
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>>150775435
Billy is the only killer who can really snowball like that. Luckily only a few are good with the chainsaw.
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>>150768220
I think the point of speed limiter is just farming a shitload of points
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>>150768220
You forgot about the hatch.
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>>150776138
Hatch needs to be nuked into oblivion ASAP. It's genuinely shocking how such a fucking awful game mechanic could ever be conceived.
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>>150776138
>>150776625
What about the hatch?
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>>150776625
It needs some kind of delay on use. Even something like 5-7 seconds would be fine.
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>>150777223
And then the killer should be able to seal it so the survivor has to spend a bit of time opening it. Nothing too long.
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>The double pallets on Ironworks is balanced

LEL Yeah sure. It's infinites all fucking over again.
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>>150777223
it practically already does because of the hitbox for it.
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Getting warped to the wrong side of the pallets never gets old.
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>>150775854
and it's not very good at it really. 50% more BP on a single point accumulating task for taking away your strongest trait is pretty terrible. More BP and adding something like more blood spots would be nice.

>>150776138
Hatch is fine considering it requires at least two gens and if three survivors have escaped/died already the game state was already decided. Key is rare enough I don't think I would touch it but I think it would be fine if it had an unlock time and the entity flips and tells the killer where the attempted key user is. Plus you can grab a survivor jumping through it for an instant kill.
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>>150768624
You'd know exactly what constitutes being trash, wouldn't you?
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>>150777223
>It needs some kind of delay on use.
I don't see why. You can't use it unless half your team is dead, you have to find it, and if a survivor has to use it the killer already won unless they killed everybody so fast they didn't get any points.
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>>150779312
>>150779262
>hatch
>fine
Never change.
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>>150779097
>It's infinites all fucking over again.
How? You can break the pallets. You couldn't do anything about the juke bus but hope they fuck up.
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>>150779447
You never explained why its not fine.
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>>150779462
There's 2-4 of them all around the map. One dude can run around the cluster of boxes 2-4 times and then drop the pallets. He can then move to next one right beside that pallet and do it. It's literally 1-2 minutes of the killer doing nothing. If you walk away people just run right back to it. It's really not hard to abuse the FUCK out of them. Anytime the Survivors are in trouble they can just run to them and be fine.
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>>150779447
Not every game should be a 0-4 shutout you know. Ideally it should be a bell curve where 4 man escapes and 4 man kills are uncommon and 2 people dying are the most common game result.
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>>150779685
And then once all the pallets are broken no one can ever get away ever again.
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>>150779775
Then they move to the other side of the map and do it over there. In total it can force the Killer to run around for well over 5 minutes. The past 4 games I've played it has just devolved into Survivors going to one part of the map, fucking around and then running to the next side of the map and doing it there. Eventually all the gens are done and people escape. It's stupid as fuck. It takes 0 skill. When people juke out of my line of sight and sneak off I respect it and move on. When people run around in circles for 5 minutes and then move to the next 5 minute juke it's 0 enjoyment.
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>>150779685
Break pallets. You even get points for it. Plus if you destroy all the pallets chasing one person when you go after someone new later chances are they will fuck up because they didn't expect their fucktard teammate to use every pallet on the map. I'd actually argue that Brutal Strength is pretty strong right now since the game truly is about time management and destroy every pallet on the map without losing a bunch of gens over it is pretty big. Not strong enough to take it over the "meta" perks but still pretty strong.
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>>150780041
That may be the case on Autohaven, but on the Farm and even Macmillan it won't work. On Autohaven, break a handful of pallets and eventually give up and head to the generators to scare people off them. If you can keep people from working on them while getting some pallets broken, you win.
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>>150780108
Yeah, sadly not every single one of my killers has brutal strength.

>>150780272
Ironworks and Autowreckers as terribly made maps with far too much going on. They both have stupid ass near infinites and these retarded 5 minute game delays for survivors to abuse.

It easily works on Macmillan.
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>>150780410
Ironworks is terrible, yes. But that's one map, and it's the Ironworks itself that is the issue. So much crap to wade through to get anywhere.
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>>150716654
>still complaining about infinites.

Imo they are fine where they are right now. Sometimes you get lucky and an infinite is there. If they remove infinites the game will become shitty. Seriously you people don't know what your complaining about.
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The worst map for survivors is that wide open map on the farm. I guess the developers thought all the corn would make it easy to lose survivors. Instead it just gives you few places to hide.
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>>150780608
When are you gonna activate Windows?
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>>150781139
Shelter woods
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>>150779640
>>150779769
>literally removes the entire cat-and-mouse aspect of a cat-and-mouse game
>requires no skill
>only exists because survivors with no skill don't know what stealth is
>discourages team play, encourages you to let your friend bleed out on the hook because you want to use the hatch
>you can literally just sit on the hatch the entire game and let your friends do all the work for you
>killer has literally no counter to the hatch at all, he's basically being punished for being good at the game
>doesn't even show up on the map so you can't even patrol it - like that would even do any good, see above
>activates far too soon
>gives more points than an actual legitimate escape does
>leads to eternal stalemates if both the killer and the survivor get there first - killer can't hit survivor because survivor can escape during cooldown, survivor can't escape because killer can grab him during jump

How the fuck can anyone justify the existence of this? It's the shittiest fucking mechanic to ever grace a video game. Seriously, Jesus fucking Christ almighty, who the fuck thought this was even a fucking passable idea?
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>>150781480
It's just a dumb glitch with windows 8. It doesn't actually impact anything and it's not bothersome enough to actually take care of. Kind of like a watermark but I still got windows for free so I can't complain.
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>>150774726
>>150775594

I mean if you're hit, that's your problem and your mistake. If the killer is right on you and you're in his field of vision, the least of your problems is how much blood you're spraying around you. The only time blood spatters exclusively give you away is when you're not sprinting around.
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>>150782148
You are more likely to find it than a survivor is since you can free roam the map. The only killer than should have stalemates over the hatch is wraith and wraith need a overhaul anyways. Trapped should leave one person alive and downed until they have the hatch safely trapped up and hillbilly can just instant down anyone that wants to sit around.

Think of it this way, if you are playing survivor solo and three teammates managed to get killed in the first 5 min while you banged out two gens solo it's pretty damn unfair you are completely fucked. The hatch is there to mitigate that frustration that would possibly make players quit the game entirely.
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>>150782148
Camping the hatch assumes you know where the hatch is. Finding the hatch can be a time consuming endeavor especially when there is someone trying to kill you roaming the map. If it didn't have a sound it would be a nightmare to find. You don't get more points then escaping through the doors and if you open the doors and escape you get more points than if you just used the hatch. Anybody who did nothing but wait for the hatch wouldn't even pip. It showing up on the map for anybody that would make things way too easy.
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>>150783202
>hillbilly can just instant down anyone that wants to sit around.
If you rev up that chainsaw they jump in. If you hit them with the chainsaw they can still jump in before you can pick them up.
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>>150783202

>the only killer that should have stalemates over the hatch is Wraith
Completely untrue.
>survivor can disarm traps
>survivor can still crawl into hatch as Hillbilly cools down chainsaw

>it's pretty damn unfair you are completely fucked
You're not completely fucked. If you could do 2 generators solo, you can do 3, especially without teammates to lead the killer to you. Even if you couldn't, then that means that you're just not cut out for being a survivor without a good team supporting you. It's harder to survive against a brutal machete/chainsaw-wielding psychopath ALONE than it is to survive against a brutal machete/chainsaw-wielding psychopath with three other people? Color me shocked.

>the hatch is there to mitigate that frustration
...so a noob crutch. If that's the case, then why not have a killer offering that automatically hooks the last survivor? It's there to mitigate the killer's frustration in case they're upset they can't find anybody.

>>150783298
>if it didn't have a sound it would be a nightmare to find.
How is that relevant? It does have a sound.
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>>150784329
>then why not have a killer offering that automatically hooks the last survivor?
Because you don't automatically find the hatch once two or three people are dead.
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>>150785092
Okay so giving the killer the ability to just kill the last survivor on sight is ok for you?
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>>150785092
Fine, then, make it so that once there is only one survivor, that survivor starts emitting a loud noise that can be heard from several meters away. And once you find the survivor, one hit automatically kills them.
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About to prestige for the second time. Should I burn through my last Ebony or just say fuck it and spend my 500k after prestiging?
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>>150785332
What exactly is your point? That isn't even remotely comparable to the hatch.
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>>150785332
The hatch appears when you are 75% of the way to losing.
You are suggesting something that appears when you are 75% of the way to winning.
One is a anti-snowball measure, the other is a snowball mechanic. Not even remotely related.
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>>150785514
>that survivor starts emitting a loud noise that can be heard from several meters away
You mean something like whispers?

>And once you find the survivor, one hit automatically kills them.
So something like NOED?
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>Some dumb bitch Meg disarms a trap and runs straight towards you

This is why I prefer playing killer
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>>150784329
A more accurate analogy would be if the gate are powered and all survivors are alive you get vision on the closest survivor to you for the next 10 seconds or instantly down the next survivor you hit. Considering there are perks that do just that I'm not sure how I would feel about that.
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>drop pallet on killer
>he gets launched 20ft
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>>150786612
A perk that knocks the killer back further when getting hit with a pallet would be pretty cool.
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>>150785560
Yeah, kill last survivor on sight or just hearing him.

The hatch is an easy escape for last survivor. You hear it? Time to jump out. You see it? Time to jump out. Killer is camping it? No problem, turns into a match on who has less patience.

>>150785693
>The hatch appears when you are 75% of the way to losing.
No, that's not right, reminder that this is a team game, but a team game where you are evaluated individually, so having the hatch as an escape method isn't that bad if your team is shit and dies early while you have actually done work, but the thing is that it needs to be reworked so that it doesn't promote the attitude of "I'm just gonna pop this generator here, destroy this hook and watch as my team dies slowly to escape through the hatch and get my easy pip". You are not about to lose, you are just closer to alternatively winning.

>>150785703
Those are perks, not something that is on the map, and you see, perks, are also something that survivors have, and that aren't particularly underpowered.
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>>150754505
>hopsin
DID
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>>150786612
>Get a pallet dropped on me
>Teleport 10 feet forward
>Not even stunned
what
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Why are there no pizza Dwight memes? >:^(
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>>150785693
>something that appears when you are 75% of the way to winning.
Or all the other survivors could have already escaped.

>>150785703
>something like Whispers
Hilarious. Whispers is bugged.
>something like NOED
NOED has a timer, number one, a timer that will absolutely expire by the time you find the survivor - if you ever find the survivor at all, that is, due to the fact that he could already be camping the hatch and waiting for his friend to expire on the hook. Number two, you still have to carry the survivor to a hook, a process during which they could wiggle out.
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>>150786767
>giving survivors tools to be more effective at fighting the killer
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>>150787309
Not him, but I knew I recognized the name Hopsin! He showed up in one of my lobbies. Who is he?
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>>150787841
The killer has the advantage.
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>>150788147
Killer has the advantage if survivors are retarded.
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>>150787818
>Hilarious. Whispers is bugged.
Whispers actually got buffed.

>NOED has a timer
And they gave it a timer because it was too strong.

>camping the hatch
I don't know why in these examples people assume that not only does every survivor know where the hatch is at the start and finding it is a trivial process but camping it comes with no downsides like being out in the open.

>>150787136
>Those are perks
And makes them great is you don't have to depend on a randomly generated hatch that you may or may not find.
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>>150788147
Only if you treat the game as a 1vs1
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>>150788471
Whispers is still bugged. I tested it out a little bit and it still goes off for dead survivors.
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>>150788403
Which is the vast majority of the time. And if the survivors are all friends, hook one in the basement and they come like flies to honey. You can easily come back and catch them as they go up the stairs.

If you fail and they still get away, you should still be able to rank up with only 1 or 2 kills. Meanwhile survivors actually have to do pretty good (or group repair a few gens early on and pack saboteur) to rank up without surviving.
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>stock up 500k BP to powerlevel after prestige
>only get 14 levels out of it

J U S T
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>>150784329
>You're not completely fucked. If you could do 2 generators solo, you can do 3, especially without teammates to lead the killer to you. Even if you couldn't, then that means that you're just not cut out for being a survivor without a good team supporting you.
>this killerbaby delusion
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>>150788471
>Whispers actually got buffed.
It got "fixed".

>And they gave it a timer because it was too strong.
They gave it a timer so crybabies would shut the fuck up about it, only mentally disabled survivors aren't able to get away after the gates are powered.

Quick googling http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=732438588

>>150788820
>Which is the vast majority of the time.
So? Is it the killer's problem that survivors are retarded?
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>>150788094
he's a terrible rapper. he is one of /mu/'s favorite memes. you know how /pol/ likes to do the "WE" thing where one person posts "WE" in one post and then everyone posts another until it eventually gets to "WE WUZ KANGS N SHIET"? /mu/ does that with but a hopsin lyric, "DID THE MAN WHO INVENTED COLLEGE GO TO COLLEGE".
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>start of match
>killer immediately beelines for me
>3 minutes later I'm alive but everyone else is dead
>4 gens left, got map to find hatch
>killer immediately goes for me again
>mfw I have calm spirit and there were no crows above me

Alright who fucking made an ESP hack
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>>150789095
>They gave it a timer so crybabies would shut the fuck up about it
It was the biggest crutch in the game.
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>>150789095
>Quick googling http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=732438588
Though outdated, if this is known to all how does this give survivors an advantage? The killer is more likely to find them first because they can free roam the map. If you are playing trapper you may even find some traps on the way while doing so.
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>>150790007
So by what you're saying you don't actually play killer at all or are just rank 15 tops?

>The killer is more likely to find them first because they can free roam the map
3rd person is all I need to say. You can "juke" the killer for ages as long as you're not a retard. If I've done it, people should be able to do it aswell.

>finding traps
>as trapper
When you go past rank 10 as a killer playing trapper there is no such thing as traps laying around at late game.

It's exactly what >>150788621 said and what I said previously, this is a team game, your team sucks hard? You lose. As you grow in rank you are supposed to pair with people at your skill level, which makes it more probable to get paired with people that don't suck and winning at the end of the match, or dying if you played poorly or because there's this one guy that wants to escape through the hatch and forgets about you completely.
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>>150784329
>if you can't solo the objectives that are designed for a team of four, you shouldn't even be playing this game

Why don't you just say you're too delicate to handle anything less than total victory in every one of your games, rather than dancing around it?
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I think we nuke all of Asia. I'm getting real tired of these laggy ass games.
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>>150790858
>You can "juke" the killer for ages as long as you're not a retard.
Back when infinites were plentiful yes. If you are getting out juked by a survivor for ages now you are a shit killer.

>As you grow in rank you are supposed to pair with people at your skill level
I like how you said "supposed to". Also as a killer I can pick and choose. You don't have to go up against a lobby of rank 1's.
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>>150793193
Well, there's that thing called teamwork, while one jukes for a while, others take out generators and hooks and then get infront of the killer to distract him while he's bringing the survivor to a place with a hook, usually far away so he can get down.

Yeah, I said supposed to because I meant it, the MM is just that shit.
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This is my third farming wraith today. This shit is getting out of hand.
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>versing asian trapper
>lagging all over the place
>despite this he's still shit and no one is ever hit or trapped
>get 3 generators
>he ragequits and leaves
>lose a pip
all of this shit needs to get fixed, there need to be region locks to prevent the chinks from doing this and survivors shouldn't lose pips if killers quit like the babies they are.
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>>150793905
Have you met one of those who tricked and fucked up the farming survivors already?
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>>150793540
>Well, there's that thing called teamwork
I agree but it usually doesn't work that way. One of the best ways to tell if you are on a shit team if you have being running from the killer for a while and nobody has done shit. One of the reasons I like playing killer more because I feel more in control of my destiny.

I don't feel taking down hooks does all that much but get bold points for one guy. I really rather people go after gens then hooks. Better be hooked out in the open than in the basement.
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>>150794346
Yep, on rancid abattoir. Dude was dingdonging in the middle of the field, my three rank 1 teammates all went to go farm with him whilst I did generators so I could quickly pip and go, suddenly there was three guys downed in almost an instant. Quickly ran over and burnt my anti hemorrhage on one of 'em and we speed healed the third while the wraith was carrying the fourth to the basement. After that it was a normal game.
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>>150794176
Supposedly if you block all contact via steam you won't get matched for them.
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>>150794402
>Rotten Fields
>Break most of the hooks
>Guy is spotted on the side of the map with no hooks
>Runs straight to the basement and gets downed in the basement building
>Killer didn't have Iron Grasp and wouldn't have be able to do anything to him if he just stayed in the same area he was found

I don't bother breaking all the hooks now. I just break one at the start, then maybe one later on when I have reason to believe someone will finish powering the last generator while I do it. I do this just to make sure I rank up in games where I'm not able to contribute much to generators because the killer won't leave me alone. Don't want to rank down when I survive.
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>>150792245
>>150788903
>completely ignoring all the other points
It figures that people who need the hatch to survive are also illiterate retards.
Not even sure why I'm gracing literal spastics with (You)s, but okay.
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>>150795359
>Not even sure why I'm gracing literal spastics with (You)s, but okay.

Yes, God knows you have so much more important things you could be doing, like writing another screeching essay on why the hatch is the greatest atrocity to befall mankind.
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>>150796817
True. I could always be some loser on the Internet who posts images of anime girls alongside meaningless snarky quips that contribute nothing to the discussion whenever they can't handle being called out on their retardation! Now, wouldn't that be something?
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>>150796817
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>150797151
You've already lost. No amount of samefagging can soothe your eternal rectum rending.
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>>150797515
typical killerfetus behavior
>WAAAAAAH SOMEONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH MY RETARDED OPINION MUST BE SAMEFAG WAAAAAAAH
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Did they remove Ironworks of Misery from the rotation? I haven't gotten it once since the patch and I have played a shit ton of matches.
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>>150797664
>2016
>Anno Domini MMXVI
>thinking screencaps can prove that you're not a samefag
And you have the gall to call me retarded.
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>>150798050
i'm not samefagging though you faggot retard, suck my cock
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>>150797131

I'm pretty sure the one that can't handle being called out is you.

Consider this: If your self-esteem is to fragile to handle the thought of one out of four survivors getting away from you, to the extent that you write hyperbolic screeds about how the developer who even considered inputting the hatch cannot be forgiven, and then a couple of Anonymous posters on a Xhosian soapcarving board is able to provoke this much defensive fretting and gnashing of teeth, then maybe, *maybe* the problem isn't with everyone else.
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>>150797932
Never mind I got it right after I posted this.
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>>150798893
>implying the "hyperbolic screeds" as you aptly named them are out of frustration against not being able to catch a survivor
Nah, I write the speeches because I'm a pathetic loser gets his kicks by spending his time constructing outrageous characters on anonymous imageboards. Do you actually think that I believe the developer who thought of the hatch should be crucified? No, I play it up because it catches people's attention and generates far more discussion than just saying "the hatch is disgustingly overpowered" and then giving a short list of why it is. You could say the same about my "gnashing of teeth" as you eloquently stated - it's a caricature.

That said, I don't dislike the hatch because of the thought of one out of four survivors getting away from me - if I have already killed three survivors, I'm already pipped up. No, I've already made very clear my reasons for disliking the hatch.
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Quick! Post how many flashlights you have.

>23
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>>150802490
Fuck yeah sokush
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>Only have one killer at a decent level, boring to play it constantly now
>Almost every killer is a Wraith and no one plays Hillbilly

This is getting bland. Motivation to play is draining.
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Poor guy even burnt a memento mori to try and kill this twitchfag, but he couldn't catch anyone and ended up disconnecting. Sorry dude, better luck next time.
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What's with people spamming "1" in the lobby?
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>>150803330
Lag test
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>>150803330
testing connection to killer to prevent laggy wraith abuse. Like this cunt for instance.
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>>150802985
It was a close match we almost made it out.

https://www.twitchDOTtv/sokushd/v/82010984

1:18
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>>150803840
>People are still using NOED

Just shameful.
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>>150805256
It's only bad if survivors are bitches once the gens are turned on, so far I've only waited out NOED once and it was so that I could get a super risky unhook from the basement. I have been playing a lot less aggressively since I'm trying to rank up before the reset but it's still a decent, just far more situational.
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>killers are seriously scared of one rank 2 claudette

I just want to find a game that isn't laggy as shit, quit dodging when all of my teammates are rank 15+. Been searching for a game for ten minutes now.
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they need to make it so you can move through other players, this is retarded
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FUCK YES BITCHES
Time to not give a fuck about ranked and level a Meg.
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>>150806705
and activate windows
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How much does the wiggle bar fills if you drop someone?
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>>150806981
Is it really that big of an issue, Anon? It's just not even worth the time since I'd have to go find the product key in my junk drawer.
>>
So have we established that the hatch needs severe nerfing if not complete removal? :^)
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>>150808356
It needs a slight nerf in the form of preventing people from jumping into it right after being hit. Otherwise it is fine. It's meant to give the last survivor a fighting chance.

You can easily rank up as a killer without killing anyone, the last survivor having a better chance of getting away does nothing to you.
>>
Does every survivor start off with 3 unique perks at level 1 or are they no different at that level?
I'm playing exclusively private matches with mates and I'm wondering if there is any point in picking a specific character at level 1
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>>150811034
I wish I had 4 other friends to play private matches with...

But no. At level 1 it's all random perks. Certain Survivors have a chance to get unique perks as they level.
>>
>>150811224
ah, that sucks
oh well, might be for the best, I don't want to delve into a meta when playing with friends
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>>150789230
was his name SKILLBILLY
>>
unhook
>>
>Been a wage slave the last couple of days
>Finally a day off
>New patch

Neat

I'm honestly surprised how quick they are with these things.
>>
>>150817429
>tfw met a wage slave normie on the game
>i was a killer and killed him and he added me
>thought it was to talk shit but he was just saying good game and being nice
>we start talking a bit, he can't really type for shit for some reason but he's a nice dude
>now we're "friends"

feels weird man

he wants me to get on voip so we can do SWF with voice but i lied and said i have no mic
>>
I want to save my bp so I can get several levels in one go, but I keep using them immediately. I have no self-control.
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There's something wrong with my Meg
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>>150819552
And people say the hatch isn't broken.
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>>150819143
why would you do that? just unlock your perks, you might get something good and make more bp that way.
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>>150819552
Well how did it end?
>>
So, they gave Trapper a huge buff by changing being able to disarm on the move, right?
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>>150819552
I will never understand this obsession survivors have with the hatch. The exit is right here. A twenty minute stalemate isn't worth 2000 BP.

Likewise, if I put four traps around the hatch and camp it, the survivor will sit there for twenty minutes and try to wait to see if I give up when they could just repair the 3 generators nowhere near me, pop them rapidly, and then wait a while and then open a door once they know I'm back at the hatch or another door.

It's just 2000 points.
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>>150821192
I wouldn't say it's huge but yeah it helps.

One time I was watching this streamer that was in my game and I noticed he kept rapidly clicking whenever he'd walk around a pallet or high grass. I was playing trapper and it didn't occur to me till this patch that people spammed M1 to find traps so they wouldn't blunder into them
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>It's a friendly farming Wraith episode

>>150820412

I just span in circles until it got enough courage to jump on the hatch.
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Few days late to this, but whatever.

Does anyone find the whole Bahroo fiasco with the infinijuker hilarious?
Bahroo was the one who popularized infinijuking, with the same shitty excuse of "le killer should focus on my le team, this is just a DISTRACTION and not my complete lack of skill at the game showing!" He created this monster singlehandedly. And now HE has to deal with infinijuking on the other side, and how does he react? He plays the "wounded killer" card. I fucking guarantee you that if Bahroo were that survivor, he would have exploited that infinite juke spot to high hell and beyond.

>inb4 "it wasn't that the person was infinijuking that got him banned, it was the fact that he didn't leave the game and deliberately griefed the killer"
Yeah, that was a shitty move, but Bahroo was definitely bootyblasted by the infinijuking.

That's not all. He's also a shitty team player who prioritizes keeping "muh rank" above actually helping his friends.
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>>150821646
I hate this fucking Twitch cancer bullshit and the people who think it is relevant.

This Literally Who streamer did not create anything. Anyone forced into a situation where infinijuking is possible would figure it out immediately.
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>>150821646
>Bahroo was the one who popularized infinijuking
>Some literally who streamer
>Popularizing an easy to exploit system

I don't believe you

Infijuking was easy as fuck to tell since day -1. It didn't need to be popularize by anyone. The flaw of the level design and vault system made it obvious as fuck.
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>>150821646
Which map did this happen on, anyway? I take it this is the only ban the devs have ever handed out, because it was embarrassing them?
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>>150821741
>>150821771
True, I'm incredibly sleep-deprived so take that with a grain of salt.
To be fair, though, it is semi-relevant, since it influenced the devs' decision to """""crack down on infinijuking."""""

Regardless of whether or not he popularized it, the fact remains that he ranks among the shitty cancer Twitchfags that infinijuke until they are blue in the face, yet once he discovers (or discovered, I guess, since infinijuking is mostly done for) how cancerous infinijuking is and how it is to be on the receiving end, he cries and the devs come to his aid, banning the evil infinijuker who was admittedly committing a bannable offense by griefing but would not have been banned if Bahroo's audience wasn't large enough to catch the eye of the developers.
Fucking frogs.

>>150822001
It was Ironworks - the one map whose infinijuke the devs actually made WORSE in their attempt to fix infinijuking.
Like I said, fucking frogs.
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>>150822187
How did they make it worse, and which killer was he playing? Obviously not Trapper.
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What do the AFK birds look like? Is there one of those pop ups? Because I heard a lot of crows cawing continuously but couldn't see anything.
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>>150822289
You get a visual warning same as any other loud noise. It just keeps happening. I had it happen in the basement and assumed it was some guy hopping in and out of a locker to draw my attention and save their buddy I was chasing upstairs. Turned out they had just went AFK down there.
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>>150822187
>the fact remains that he ranks among the shitty cancer Twitchfag

Irrelevant. All twitchfags are cancer. There's no ranking system.
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>>150822187
Whoa, they banned the cheeser?
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>>150822337
Ah, thanks. Guess the crows were just excited about something.
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>>150822252
He was playing...
...wait for it...
Wraith.
They made it worse by adding pallet bullshit along the way, I believe.

>>150822910
Yeah, but not for infinijuking. The Twitchfag Alt+Tabbed out and played Overwatch while crying himself a nice river. When he came back, the cheeser was still there. At that point, they were banned for holding the Twitchfag's game hostage and not leaving when they had a chance.
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New thread

>>150823203
>>150823203
>>150823203
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>>150811497
Dunno, but it was a billy
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