/4ccg/ - Sad Corgi Edition

first for harambe

second for horse pussy

benis

Benis

Reminder to submit characters for Tenko's MUGEN at http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:SuppaTenko

/adv/'s manager is a girl

>>150401470
remarkably accurate

>>150401470
we need a 4cc version of that old gmod video "cant a nigga just die and ragdoll on the floor in peace, cant a nigga just get killed by a fridge without being interrupted and shit"

>>150401341
I want to cuddle that doggy

>I tried to submit this export, but it's so hard to do without hands

>>150401585
FIFA is better than PES

>>150402260
FIFA is literally scripted.

>>150402241
the /trv/ and /o/ managers seem to do it just fine.

>>150401535
This reminds me

>some characters had their AI stop being good after I installed this lifebar
>check mugen.cfg
>AI.cheat = 0

so, uh, make sure this stays at 1

>>150401430
The rules seem to be flexible depending on who breaks them. That's fine if the cup doesn't matter and if you don't care about the people that follow it and make it happen. If you take it even a little seriously, then these shenanigans make the cup a farce. This is why you have one camp having fun binge watching whatever streamers crap out, another camp that's irreparably ass blasted over the last several years of bs, and almost nobody in between.

>>150402406
It's nice to see your own (Admittedly terrible) OC being used by other people.

>>150402396
I thought we were listing lies now? thats why I replied

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>>150401437

>>150403231
Your entire argument is flawed when you assume the average viewer cares about DF being let back in IRC, that the average viewer cares about Fang managing /cgl/, that the average viewer cares if /gif/'s manager gets banned (they'd probably support him for letting /a/ in).

You're rulefagging for reasons completely unrelated to what you say.

>>150403331
It fulfilled an urgent need

>>150404018
I agree. Only circlejerking autists (like us) that hang out in /4ccg/ or IRC are invested in this stuff. The average cup fan doesn't know about any of this dramu, and wouldn't care if you told him.

>>150404301
Exactly. It's some tripfag pushing his agenda anonymously and probably with personal grudges.

>>150403231
>The rules seem to be flexible depending on who breaks them.
Then they stop being rules and are a excuse to ban people outside the circlejerk.

>>150404018
I guess you are right. There are probably 30-50 managers and maybe up to 100 anon posters who stay more or less active in off-season threads, IRC and circlejerks, which is only a fraction of people who watch the Cup. It means that there are roughly 1000-1500 people who drop by every three months just to watch some matches. They don't care about managerial drama and topladdery, and won't even catch a glimpse of those problems by watching matchdays alone (that is, unless somebody in particular becomes memed on even by commisioners and commentators). And as long as Cup viewership stays at the same rate (okay, slightly declining because of some people losing interest and no means to advertise and attract new fans), /merit/ can and will do whatever they damn feel like.

>>150404018
I didn't say who was in what camp. There are viewers who care, if they've been following more than a few streams casually. Many viewers don't care at all because it's off their radar, I agree.

I'm in the camp that says "why do we agonize over rules in the first place?" Honestly, like you said, (most) viewers don't care about the happenings within circlejerks. They don't know who manages what team. They just watch. Aren't we overcomplicating things even having a wiki with fucking legalese? Why are we banning people from something that is supposed to just be a fun way to kill time? Once you start banning people, you cross the line into "this is a serious affair" and people will start expecting you to be consistent about that, which is likely the source of the asspain we see cropping up here and in places like IRC whenever /merit/ does something contrary to expectations. If instead /merit/ set the expectation that this is just for giggles between lads and people can watch if they want, I guarantee it would kill all the drama in the cup because there would be nothing to get dramatic about.

remove managers

restore managers

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The ghosts of our past grow stronger, like wine
Beware the fool who surrenders himself to those most alluring of spectres,
But celebrate him who cherishes without want or regret in his heart.
Five years is naught to the vast eons that envelop it,
Yet the sunset draws ever nearer.
Let us bask in its radiance one more time,
Before we plunge into the abyss,
All equal at last.

>>150405060
pf you fucked up, I only see 30 team reps there

>>150405060
why isn't zyzz in the center?

>>150405060
top unf

nice work pf

>>150405234
Because you touch yourself at night

>>150405060
pls have my rapechildren

>>150405124
There are 32.

>>150404752
>If instead /merit/ set the expectation that this is just for giggles between lads
Thats what the cup is, a giggles for the #toplads, everybody who isn't a #toplad has to follow the guidelines of get banned for life.

>>150404752

Hi, DF

>>150405060
>every star winner prominently featured
>except the /trv/ guy, he's off in the bottom left
lel

>>150405654
You're being facetious, but you did a good job of outlining the contradiction that pisses people off.

I'm not a rules lawyer. I'm just pointing out that /merit/ is advertising hot sandwiches, serving cold sandwiches instead. It's not that cold sandwiches are shitty or inferior in themselves, it's purely a matter of setting expectations and following through on them. If they started advertising cold sandwiches, nobody would have a reason to get upset about anything. This is what worked about the GB era, where people had fun without having to study an encyclopedia of out of date, contradictory rules for fear of being arbitrarily punished while someone else gets let off the hook without rhyme or reason.

>>150406004
Nobody cares about /trv/ and their single good run was a fluke that has not been replicated since.

>>150405772
Guess again.

>>150406463
Wonder if /trv/ will fall again, but doubtful since the cup is mainly 4-4-2 vs 4-3-3

>>150405060
>tfw Nachos will never be on another poster after this cup

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Legalese in the wiki was one of the best things to ever happen.
If you're complaining about circlejerks and #toplads and what not, the existence of legalese in the Rules page is by far the best thing to happen to the cup. Less gray areas, less friendly favors.

>>150406719
Don't impersonate me.

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>>150407018
>less friendly favors

>>150407018
I'm not complaining about circlejerks per se. I don't know that I'm even complaining. I'm pointing out that the way the cup operates on paper is contrary to the way it operates in practise and that this is the source of every drama in its history other than Dragongate. You could fix that by making the cup conform more closely to how it is laid out in the rules. Or you could fix that by revising or getting rid of rules so that the outline matches the practise. Either method would be perfectly valid and fine by me.

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>>150407230
Are you going to argue that the existence of legalese in the rules makes it harder to bend and misinterpret things with the purpose of benefiting toplads?

>>150407395
Hasn't it improved tho?
I started paying much less attention ever since the /pol/ thing in summer 14 where it felt like there was something very autistic going on inside merit or whatever they had back then, where they ended up banning a bunch of people and placing others on "non-explicit" bans (rowan) and "thin ice" (Qin and twinky).

Then legalese was introduced and I got the impression these issues were somewhat prevented for the future. OaB and CF were the last problems yes? The 1st one admiting to bullshitting boris into banning/going nuts over the earlier summer14 period, and CF just uh, I forgot, what did he do? completely lost his marbles or something and made the 8cc?

So what have been the post-legalese conundrums that evoque the impression that the cup operates differently on paper than it does in practice?

>>150407948
Rigging is an issue that is rampant because it hassles the top job rigging. Rowan needed to be punished along with his friends for trying to muscle into the rigging jig.

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where is /int/ in this tournament?

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Will bert not choke?

>>150408264
Wasn't the /ic/ autist trying to jam himself into 4ccc by playing witch hunter with boris or something like that? fuck its been a while

>>150408570

>

>>150407948
>Are you going to argue
Do you want me to make a list of times the rules were bend by Boris? Because he was very blatant about them.
In fact, the existence of the rules only makes the favoritism to #toplads more clear.

>>150408614
yes, please give specific examples because you can prattle on about "muh toplads" all you like but when it comes down to it the cup has more integrity than you'd like to believe

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>the cup has more integrity than you'd like to believe

and here we go

>>150407948
CF was banned because he annoyed Boris. That's literally the only reason. Gman was banned for the same non-reason, only that time it was Ved who had a horse up his butt about it. Note: being annoying isn't against the rules. If it were, everyone other than Roll should have been banned long ago, starting with Boris. So, /merit/ set up situations where they can be criticized legitimately for abusing their power to promote their circlejerk. If they just came out and said "the cup is for circlejerking," nobody could blame them for banning people they don't want to circlejerk with.

>>150408835
hi ronery

posting your one reaction image doesn't eliminate the fact that you don't have an argument

>tfw got my #toplad starter pack today
>no dragon dildo
i feel ripped off

>>150408720
You weren't around for the time he almost let Fang "concede" a match without playing it to completion. That time /merit/ intervened to make the right call, but it still goes to show that the first instinct is to bow to top lads.

>>150408884
1. I'm not him
2. Not everyone is looking to get in a debate, you fucking sperg. People are allowed to simply call your posts out on being dumb and move on with their lives without having to get in a long argument over it.

>>150408835
Nice worst girl, you only know of her due to Railgun like a pleb?

>>150405060
As much as I like /vr/ and Arino, Zyzz should really be in the center.

also
>Faye Artemis
>still on /d/

>>150409046
but my post was correct and your anime reaction image doesn't change that

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>>150409054
>someone who unironically reads that shitty novel

>being in any place to call anyone a pleb

pick one

>>150409243
It wasn't
I'm not ronery, for one thing, and I really don't care to post what my argument is since I'm betting you'd move the goalposts to avoid having to admit to being wrong.

>>150408720
Summer14- Sou uploaded the export in the wrong place, /f/ still allow to play in the cup despiste the rules saying only the team page and the export page are valid
Winter15-/i/ managers not banned over fucking the nightly export, despiste the rules saying it was a permaban
Spring15-/trv/ allowed to play despiste being a day later with the export
Autum15-/i/ managers not banned over fucking the nightly export, despiste the rules saying it was a permaban
Spring16-/i/ managers not banned over fucking the nightly export, despiste the rules saying it was a permaban
Winter16-/p/ manager not banned over fucking the nightly export, despiste the rules saying it was a permaban
Summer16-/gif/ manager throws the whole cup, still allowed to play, /wg/ later with the export and almost got in
I am sure people can point other examples.

>>150409552
Good list. Save it, since I have a feeling a week from now people will go back to saying "but can you give an example?"

>>150409491
it's ok to acknowledge you are in fact ronery

GIDDY UP

>>150409829
however, it is not ok to actually be ronery

>>150409552
>/i/

>>150409552
Made a mistake /p/ was in Spring16 instead of Winter16

>>150409552
>no actual backup in place (/s/ didn't have any fuckup anticipating 1.12 export and why would they?)
>nightly export permaban was NEVER EVER enforced EVER otherwise far too many people (not just Indy/Rill) would be permabanned long ago
>no actual backup in place (it's a fucking babby and there were no fetus teams to shove in)
>see nightly export blab times three
>what the fuck nigga /gif/ aren't at all playing in this cup
VERY good list

>>150409552
>>150410321
Oh, and with "/gif/ manager still allowed to play" i mean "in the next competition"
People were banned for throwing a single match, yet he throw a fucking whole event and is free to do it again.

>>150409552
I'm pretty sure there were even more cases of fucking up nightly exports with managers escaping the permaban consequences. Like carmastrikes and DescendingBear fucking up [s4s] nightly export in match against /a/ in Autumn 2015, or Hessen fucking up /int/ export (although I don't remember which match).

>>150410468
>the rule has never been enforced lmao
You just conceded the argument.

I'm good to throw in the nonsense with /trv/ last season. That was some next level topladdery. Can a manager get assistance preparing an export? Sure. Preferably, that help should come from someone else from your native board or, secondarily, from one of the helpers floating around the cup. The commissioner shouldn't be making exports for people.

>>150411254
you realize Lear still helps with /w/ right?

>>150411254
Contrary to popular belief, Mauled prepares his export from beginning to the end in editor, then sends edit.bin to someone with PES just to load it up and make an export out of it. Two minutes of work really, and it has nothing to do with rigging tactics for /trv/. It's all about conversion of one file that cannot be done in editor (seriously, when are we going to get that feature), not "making" export for someone.

>>150411321
That's fucked up too. "I'm not managing a team, I'm just helping create their export and doing whatever else needed :^)" Again, this is only something people can get angry over because of the expectations previously set out in the rules and /merit/'s various little announcements over time.

>>150411254
>>150411164
look the nightly export thing has always been out of date. there are far more instances than /i/ and /p/, including /jp/, /out, /s4s/, /vg/, /wg/, and /int/. To permaban people for this would be absolutely punitive. If you want to rulefag so fucking hard that you think that people should be permabanned for messing up a nightly export, then I can't help your overwhelming amount of autism.

>>150411865
The commissioner has no business offering that level of assistance. If a team wants to compete, the onus is on its manager(s) to make that happen. The commissioner intervening to give extra help to a manager is blatant favoritism.

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>>150410468
>no actual backup in place (it's a fucking babby and there were no fetus teams to shove in)
Wrong.
Spring15 was a megababy and they did a raffle between dead teams to fill spots.
/trv/ was allowed to retain their spot in the competition and upload an export.
And pretty sure the "no backup so it doesn't matter they broken the rules" is a very shitty excuse.

>>150411931
You can't read, m8. /merit/ can start enforcing this rule or it can get rid of the rule. Either option is fine. Having that rule on the books while never enforcing it is the problem because it sets a false expectation that had led repeatedly to drama.

>>150411321
Tbh I have nothing against the commish being involved in managing a team, as long as he doesn't rig shit.

>>150412097
nah, imo the commissioner works well as an impartial party for that kind of thing. would you rather mauled collaborate with another manager like he has in the past then? one that may be inclined to give him actual assistance?
>>150412235
>I'd rather see a random autopilot than a team who was a little bit late
good one

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Reminder that we're all friends here and shouldn't argue.

>>150412553
this era ended a long time ago

the toxic masculinity in here has reached maximum levels after all the girls left

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>>150412349
>>150411931
>Show me examples of /merit/ breaking their own rules
There you go some examples.
>WOW FUCKING RULE FAGS
>WHO THE FUCK CARES
>I RATHER HAVE #TOPLAD FC THAT ENFORCING THE RULES
>FUCKING LOSERS LMAO
sup Bent

>>150413383
I wish we entered the FIFA era. Finally have a good cup.

>>150413553
EA shill pls go already

>>150413553
Good thing noone cares what you wish for.

>>150412349
The commissioner works well helping with exports until he doesn't. Impartiality requires a level of distance between him and the teams/managers he's in charge of overseeing and, if necessary, prosecuting. Helping certain teams make their exports is unbecoming of somebody in his position. You wouldn't approve of a judge helping a law group prepare a case that the judge was going to decide, regardless of that judge's reputation for impartiality. It's an inherent conflict of interest.

To answer your question, I would prefer that Mauled get the help he needs from a /trv/ fan who follows the team and wants to help out. You can see Mauled's problem there. In the absence of sufficient board support to create a viable export, a team should be allowed to die, not artificially propped up by the commissioner of all people.

>>150412097
You are using "that level of assistance" like doing that conversion is a huge deal. I already told you that it's a matter of few clicks (t. someone who converted an export for Mauled once). I actually think that it's better for commish, or someone else who is directly related to the cup, to do that rather than some random stranger. Sooner or later someone would have an ebin idea of messing up with /trv/ export before converting it and then it would be hard to find the right person to blame. Approach Lear or someone else from /merit/ with edit/bin and ask them to pull out your export out of it, and if they will refuse, then we can talk about favouritism.

>>150413476
>bent hates rulesfags and thinks the commissioners have done no wrong
ayyyyy

>>150414156
>I actually think that it's better for commish, or someone else who is directly related to the cup, to do that rather than some random stranger.
#removemanagers

>>150413476
>unironically posting Black Lives Matter memes

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>>150412097
>favoritism
I'll help anyone who needs help.

>>150414668
Can you help me?

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>>150414802
Well what do you need?

>>150412296
That rule is gone m8.

>>150414668
When do you decide to draw the line on what is help and what is just managers being lazy?

>>150414156
>Approach Lear or someone else from /merit/ with edit/bin and ask them to pull out your export out of it, and if they will refuse, then we can talk about favouritism.
You're missing the point. By the time substantial favoritism is shone, it's too late. If you're doing it right, the drafting of rules is a PRECAUTIONARY measure, not a REACTIONARY measure.

>>150414975
I need help, I think I'm going crazy.
Help me

>>150414668
Do the right thing for once and step down as commissioner.

>>150414668
I need help getting a qt3.14 gf.

>>150414668
I need help finding a dank pape.

>>150415348
join /ag/, they can hook you up with one

>>150414134
There is a huge difference between a cup comissioner and court judge though. Cup commish is more like social worker (that does it for free) than major overseer that has a last word on everything. Court judge is not allowed to resolve any case in which he would be personally involved (or if it's about his family, friends and such), and it's hard to expect from cup commish to not be friends with absolutely anyone, or have no preferences or opinions about boards whatsoever. If you want to stick to the rules this much, notice that manager's responsibility begins and ends at putting link to the export on the wiki, and that's what Mauled always does. I get it that you personally hate him or /trv/ for some reason and wouldn't make a ruckus if it was anyone else's case, but at least notice that Mauled and Lear acted cheeky and ironical about whole deal and by spilling salt all over /4ccg/ you are doing nothing else than giving them delayed (you)s.

>>150415393
>/ag/L top three is botes managed by /a/ dudes, lesbian metals and CGDCT
Unless the person you're replying to is a girl, chances are rather low.

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>>150411254
>>150411865
>>150412097
Just to pop in a note, I done the same with the /gif/ manager, he's made the export and I've simply converted it and checked it on AATF before sending him the proper file, and I've been doing that since he took over last Spring all the way to this Summer (yes, an export did actually exist, but just wasn't posted for whatever reason)
I think that might be the last time I do it though, heh

But the point is, anyone can do it regardless of anon/manager/commish, I mean who the hell cares it's literally nothing

>>150415882
>for whatever reason
But we know the reason

>>150415797
nomo in drag counts as a girl

>>150416057
Faggotry

>>150415882
>for whatever reason
He just wanted to have a laugh and thats it

>>150415083
Now I admit I completely lost your point. I told you that a favor that Lear done to Mauled is not a favouritism because anyone can ask for it and won't be dimissed. What do you want now? To put "All verified managers are encouraged/allowed/not allowed to ask current Cup commisioner//merit/ member for help with converting their export" rule on the wiki? Or are you angry that such a rule hasn't existed in official form years ago?

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>>150415001
It'll always be hard to draw the line, I guess the biggest determining factors are how advance their notice is and why they need help. That decision is so reliant on context though there really isn't a cut and dry way to go about it.

>>150415117
Let the warp overtake you.

>>150415348
;)

>>150415389
Can't help you there lad.


As for what's happening with /gif/. We're just letting the dust settle a bit and not being hasty. I get people are pissed off for a lot of reasons we just don't want to make too many mistakes as a change of pace.

>>150416424
>Let the warp overtake you.

>sanity

>>150415292
Stop.

>>150416192
All I'm saying is that the commissioner shouldn't be involved in the preparation of team exports, regardless of the number of clicks, for reasons of impartiality. This isn't hard to understand.

>>150415532
>major overseer that has a last word on everything.
That is literally how the rules define the role of the commissioner, m8.
>he's more of a social worker
Lel. Stop trying to make the cup a proxy for your dysfunctional family.

>>150415797

What is CGDCT?

>>150416662
But it could also be argued that the commissioner is as close to impartial and official as it can get

Aside from the >Mauled memes, I think Lear helping to make an export is perfectly fine as long as it's a conversion job from EDIT to TEXPORT. The /wg/ shit was absolutely disgusting though. Thank fuck people were very vocal against it. It doesn't matter that /adv/ is a shit team compared to /wg/. /wg/ fucked up and had to face punishment.

>>150416863
Cute Girls Doing Cute Things. Sometimes each other.

>>150416872
Unless he makes decisions based purely on which managers he likes, as Lear does.

>>150415797
>implying the top three in /ag/L is actually from /ag/

>>150416872
This is lazy thinking. "Supposed to be" is very different from "is" is very different from "will always be."

>>150416662
Are you a manager, or just anon shitposter that loves to move the goalposts for the sake of responses? Because you clearly don't understand that conversion of export is not "preparing" it. It has nothing to do with making any decision in manager's place. Are you going to accuse commisioner of favouritism and rigging if he personally touches the given exports to compile them into Cup save file? Because they do that too.

Main role of commisioner is to coordinate technical and organizational aspects of the cup, as well as being helpful to people who need a hand on anything that is not covered by other staff members, not to sit on the highest throne and act like almighty, flawless and obhectiive ruler. This isn't hard to understand.

>>150417310
Why is that allowed

>>150416916
>/adv/ is a shit team compared to /wg/
>compared to /wg/

>>150417310
>participate, and win all the high spots, in the /ag/L
>isn't from /ag/
Does not compute.

>>150416916
I can understand some uproar about /wg/ situation though, as case of team that failed to provide an export was treated differently in the past, i.e. allowing team to compete by taking their last valid export (like one from Spring), nerfing it here and there for not being up to the rules and stripping managers off the livemanaging rights for one season. I know that current /wg/ managers are nothing to write home about, but still think that autopilot /wg/ with nerfed goalkeeper would do slightly better than clusterfuck of /adv/

>>150418164
Who knows, maybe this time clrs has figured out how to play /out/, anon

>>150417434
maybe I'm not moving goal posts. maybe, just maybe, you're replying to different people.

>>150418485
maybe, just maybe, I'm not original responder too

>>150418336
Don't hold your breath

>>150416916
I still think signups shouldn't have been removed honestly
>sign up to confirm your team's participation
>miss export for whatever reason
>upload it within a day but receive nerfs
>later than a day you get booted for a reserve signup team
Seems reasonable to me, I mean shit, look at Mauled last Spring, he was visiting his mum in hospital the night of the deadline so he justifiably missed the deadline but was lucky enough for it to just be a Babby
/f/ also fucked up an export but due to Sou actually signing up beforehand, he was allowed to use a nerfed version submitted late

Removing signups was just unneeded if you ask me

How many happenings can happen in two days that will send the /pol/ manager into the darkest recesses of madness?

>>150418926
>justifiably missed
Surelly, he can get a comanager with all the board support he has

>>150418876
Please go out with me.

>>150419067
The same thing could have been done last Spring. I'm sure that with the massive board support Mauled has from /trv/ he could've easily gotten someone from /trv/ to run PES 16 and prepare the export

>>150419067
Not everyone wants to pirate PES.

>/pol/ misses the deadline
POL OUT! GIT FUCKED YOU NAZIS
>/trv/ misses the deadline
MAULED IS A GUD BOI, HE DINDU NUTHING, WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR THE CUPS

TL;DR what the fuck are we arguing about now

>>150419928
Jews fucking over the cup.

>>150419928
/mlp/s gunna win da cup bay bee

>>150419872
No one brought /pol/ to this discussion, so it seems like victim complex is really strong in you

>>150419872
this

>>150419386
We need to stop fetishizing board support and wake up to the reality that top lads are in need.

If a team manager can make the export by himself, then he is not fit to be a manager.

>>150420434
so much this
fucking faggots think that they know everything about PES and are strong mynygers who need no commish

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>/pol/book

>>150420830
>16 Irish people
The plot thickens

>>150420830
>/pol/book
>/pol/blr
>/pol/dit
why do we allow teams that are not from 4chan to participate again?

>>150420830
when will we IP ban Ireland?

>>150421131
We already stopped letting /co/ participate.

>>150420238

You don't even have to be a #toplad. Ultimately, what the Cup needs are people who Do Shit without relentlessly pissing off everyone[*]. It doesn't have to be anything big. You just need to take up a bit of the autism burden.

* For reasons other than "what board you come from". Also, pissing people off occasionally is fine, as long as you have the maturity to go back and fucking own up to being a dipshit.

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>>150421117
underrated post

>>150421757
Yeah but who is "everyone"? The community, i.e., the lads? Now you see how we arrived at the present predicament.

>>150420830
/pol/ are honestly the most cancerous board on 4chan
What's worse is that I don't even disagree with half the stuff they come out with, but the dwellers there are actually the fucking worst

They remind me of 8C posters, they absolutely HAVE to let you know they're from /pol/ by blasting out some meme about a frog or Trump or something, but then again, you can usually tell from their dialog that they're from /pol/ or just underage (usually both)
I cringe so hard when I see a comment on, for example, a site like YouTube with a Trump avatar spouting some meme about walls just because they absolutely have to let everyone know they're from /pol/, and I like Trump myself
They are just the worst, urgh

>>150421794
Is Sou actually a Dodgers fan?
Gross

>>150422307
>YT comments
Now now, that's the Redditards.

>>150422590
You'd be surprise

>>150422307
>reading Youtube comments in the first place
You get what you deserve.

I had a cup dream today.

We were going to have an Elite megacup, 5 teams in each group, top place advances while the second place goes to playoffs. For some reason, Russia was there. The groups were also completely different from Summer's, by the way.
/fit/ won 9-6 twice, /vr/ beat I think /f/ 14-8, /mlp/ lost all their games 2-1, /sp/ spooned, /a/ played /v/ four times and lost twice, and all of the games happened in a weekend because Sou and Boris did marathon streams at the same time.
Russia won the playoffs and /u/ won it all.

>>150423956
Sure is /dreamy/ here

>>150423956
>/fit/ won 9-6 twice, /vr/ beat I think /f/ 14-8
I guess I'll cap that one for PES17

>>150423956
>14-8
Say, can scores even go above 12 goals in PES16?

>>150424585
we had some 7-7 matches in RAD, but that's only with both teams playing wide 2-3-5

>>150424585
Yes. Test some time.

>>150424585
I had an 8-7 once.

>>150424769
>>150424778
>>150424812
I mean one single team scoring 12 or more goals.

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>>150424769
>we

>>150424585
Best I got on current summer tictacs is an 8-5.

>>150425089
I don't think it's possible under 4CC rules. You would have to try something like final boss vs final wuss /trash/. Or playing match for 30 minutes instead of 10.

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>>150421794

Sou looks like a Mexican Captain Lou Albano.

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>>150422412
Come fight me in the dark

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>>150422180

I was typing up a lengthy reply, but then I realized something. Pic related.

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>>150425830
Why not fight in the dank?

>>150426118

Because the dank is for sharing, not for fighting.

>>150425089
There was a 13-0 match from PES 15. 1.12 Memorial Cup final boss.

>>150425830
You are a problem that needs correcting.

>page 10

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>page 9

Which teams need updated rosters and why?

what am i going to do

>>150409552
>Winter15-/i/ managers not banned over fucking the nightly export, despiste the rules saying it was a permaban
>Autum15-/i/ managers not banned over fucking the nightly export, despiste the rules saying it was a permaban
>Spring16-/i/ managers not banned over fucking the nightly export, despiste the rules saying it was a permaban
>Winter16-/p/ manager not banned over fucking the nightly export, despiste the rules saying it was a permaban

To be fair on these, the rule's been changed now after realizing that a permaban for what could easily be an honest mistake AND is easily catchable with the advent of AATF was dumb. Just because it wasn't changed earlier doesn't mean these were incorrect rulings, just easrly glitches in the system that lead to a better outcome.

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>>150416424

vaporwave more like pape-orwave

>>150425616

>Captain Sou Albano

Old Man, please make this your halloween costume.

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>>150433108
A E S T H I C

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>meet a nice Chinese girl on Saturday
>remember I drunkely brought up the one-party state and Tianamen Square Massacre
>apparently I mentioned my foreign coin collection because she's sent me a nice little packet of Yuan

Do I go for the yerrow peril lads?

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>>150432389
Retarded:
>Rule never enforced since day one.
Double Retarded:
>Despiste the rule was never enforced, only changed years after it was implemented.
Triple Retarded with Cheese:
>Only changed because a new commish.
This retard levels were only theorical before this:
>Throwing PERMABAN so casually into the rule causing all the other problems in the first place.

No, fuck you. The rule shows exactly how much of a disaster /merit/ was for the cup.

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>>150434756

>Fixing a mistake is worse than leaving the mistake alone and following it to the letter

Nigaa, you dumb.

>>150435139
>Leaving a mistake in the rules for years is "fixing it"

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>>150434756
That rule was created back then when there was no AATF and became obsolete soon after, it's a real wonder how it survived for so long. Human ATF had already hard time with checking initial exports, let alone nightly ones, so at first comissioners preferred sending them screencaps of formation and slider changes rather than whole exports because someone would have to check them from scratch. I think that "rigging nightly export = permaban" rule was invented to discourage some cheeky wankers from trying to cheat and somehow buff their team mid-cup, hoping that no one will find out in a sea of exports. But I agree that it was worded out in retarded way. It should have said that permaban will be only for blatant cheating attempts, not honest mistakes.

>>150435505
Oh shit, better go back in time and fix it.

>>150435597
>it's a real wonder how it survived for so long.
It isn't, Boris didn't give a shit about the rules.
The signups are other example of that, enforced since the first cup they were implemented, but they ruling was only writen a year later despiste lots of drama happening inbetween.
> It should have said that permaban will be only for blatant cheating attempts, not honest mistakes.
Fuji literally remade the heights for it and that was "honest mistake", what the fuck do you need to do to make it BLATANT CHEATING?

>>150436675
/p/ was just Hanlon's razor in action.

>>150425089
I've gotten that before in a squash game between all red /tv/ against an all purple wooden spoon /trash/

Wow you guys are still bitching about a meme cup?

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Messi has been updated. If there are any other changes I should make let me know

>>150437263
By the way, whatever happened to that skype bot you got? What started it?

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>>150435985
I know someone who can help with that.

>>150437193
>Wow your guys are banning people from a meme cup?

>>150437364
Speaking of bots, what happened to that nazi AI? Who got custody of it, /g/ or /pol/?

>>150437584
/pol/ has too many other memes and /g/ didn't run a roster poll

>>150434756
>was

>>150435139
Sometimes, mistakes shouldn't have happened in the first place. That rule was a product of Ved's ban boner. Nothing more.

>>150437364
Fun Fact of the Day: I'm a gullible fuckwit.

Lets just leave it at that and move on with our lives.

I'm really sorry about that whole debacle.

>>150437040
People actually did said the rule was retarded in the past, guess how that worked.

>>150437678
>too many other memes
Understatement right there. How many happenings have happened this past couple of months? Six? Seven?

Also /gpol/ confirmed for TTC3?

>>150437263
Can you change the swastika tosomething. I wanna use this as a wallpaper and not feel like a weirdo.

>>150405060
>Sanic is mostly blurred out
I love it

>>150438703
Just white it out or something.

>>150436675
I guess it would have to be either repeated offense, or experienced manager making a mistake he absolutely shouldn't make at this point. All in all, moving around heights and cards (but creating setup that would be accepted as initial export) seems like a beginner mistake. A beginner that has troubles with reading comprehension, I can give you that. Meanwhile, MaymayDave was pulling one retarded stunt after another, each one being banworthy, yet he hasn't received any punishment that was more than a slap on the wrist for awfully long time, "to not hurt /o/ as a team and their fans" (when manager replacement was exactly what /o/ needed over a year ago). I guess /merit/ member are really leninet with handing out punishments (unless they were offended themselves, then it was always a swift ban).

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>the Goose is gone
>the Ayaya is gone
>Nachos will leave after this cup

>>150438881
>repeated offense
>/i/

>>150439389

What players have been on their teams since the beginning of their team?

Besides like, post-3rd founding teams.

>>150438881
Dave wasn't pulling any stunts, he was just an idiot. I wouldn't consider that worthy of a permaban.

>>150439730
Cowboy Bebop and Messi?

>>150439815

There's a level of idiocy where you can't be allowed to take care of anything, senpai.

>>150439389
goose is still there, just a nonmedal like spacebat

>>150439730
Miror B.

>>150440060
THE 4cc core player

Paging Tenko
does Madoka work properly? as in, does she shoot arrows all the time and look like she's constantly ducking and standing really fast?

Stream should be up within 5 minutes senpaitachi. Back to da Boolsheet!

>>150439730
Hitler

>>150440537
What's today m8?

>>150440537
Awesome

My father will be returning to commentary for /pol/-/lit/ on the 14th.
Not looking forward to "what is moonman?"

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>>150440761

Final of Chump Onion (/wu/ vs /mtg/), then HEEM SLEEPY.

>>150439815
Not only was he making retarded mistakes in initial exports that only drooling retard could do (failing to count to 2, 3 or 4 when assigning cards, mistaking playing styles with COM playing styles and so on) but he also refused to run AATF on them (if it doesn't work on my computer, I don't feel like asking someone else to check it for me, I'm not responsible for my mistakes!) and never even fixed stuff properly on savefix page. And each time /merit/ wanted to solve problem by nerfing /o/ to hell and back, he went on autistic rampage about everyone being in /o/-hating conspiracy. What is most surprising though is that he certainly wasn't considered as #toplad by anyone above, yet they coped with his antics instead of throwing his ass out in 2014. I believe he survived for so long only because unlike gman, canadafag or OaB he never went to IRC to directly insult god emperor boris or one of his fuckbuddies.

>>150440449
Literally. Participating in almost every cup due to /vp/ yo-yoing non-stop and still hasn't left the medal spot

>>150440537
Alrighty, fixing to get underway.

>>150439815
sacking three different co-managers basically on principle of "I don't like your face" and ruining /o/ chances to have someone competent for a long time is not worthy a permaban? Not to mention that manager cannot sack his co-manager simply for the reason of both of them being on the same level and having same rights. None of them was a #toplad back then though, so /admin/ or /merit/ decided to not intervene.

>>150441226
And is also not popular at all on /vp/

>>150439730
I had to go back into the /u/ archives for this but I'm pretty sure that /u/'s had these players since we first made the team:

Homucifer (originally Homuhomu)
Purest Form of Love
Teru Time
Akkarin
Macarons
Madokami
Science Babies
Onee-sama
ANGST AND DRAMA
Befriending
Feito-chan
Googles
Spitting distance

Since I lack an original list of what we decided on for our roster, this could be incorrect or someone could be missing since I might have been using an inprogress list of roster suggestions.

>>150440449
To be fair, he had a lot of popularity and recognition on /vp/ especially when Questy was drawing his famous CYOA comic and Miror B was one of the key characters. But that was years ago, so he is 100% 4CC core player now.

We liv, get to the channel!

>>150441910
what if i don't want to

>>150442452
continue posting lesbians then

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>>150442452

That's fine.

Where are the bull shit aesthetics?

>>150443586

Apparently they didn't all compile correctly and we didn't have time to fix them, sorry. Most teams have aesthetics, besides these two, i believe /epl/, and we half-have /r9k/'s stuff. Dunno what the problems were but that's what happens when things go to shit and have to be slapdash.

>>150439730
Nachos ;_;

>>150439730
/mu/ had aphex twin, neutral milk hotel, and radiohead on their original team and they're still on the team as Richard d James, Jeff mangum, and thom yorke

>>150440969
I didn't even know I wanted this, but I do

Twinky's dad and Jack's mom co-commentate when

>>150440969
No plebs allowed.

>>150447270
I'm pretty sure he's read more /lit/ books than anyone in /4ccg/

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>>150447424
and probably the majority of /lit/.

It's so easy to tell that most of that board doesn't actually read books.

>>150447149
>Lady Gaga was at one point on /mu/

>>150438475
Kill yourself my man

>>150447617
I only read Tao Lin's Twitter feed and iCarly slash fiction.

>>150441753
I question Spitting distance being in the original roster, but everyone else seems to fit my memory.

>>150447617
people who post anime girls in /4ccg/ should be stripped naked and tied up with their legs spread in public for anyone to make use of as they please.

>>150449627
hi, granec

>>150449627
It was in the rough draft of the roster that I found and it's been a /u/ staple for a long time. I wish we still had the change log from the original wiki so I could confirm this now.

Anyone else find the cup was a lot more fun when you were watching your team than when you're the one responsible for them doing well?

>>150450812
Very much so

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>>150441753
>Homucifer (originally Homuhomu)
>tfw the /u/ team predates the Rebellion movie
Wonder what will Homu become next if this thing I hear about Madoka Magica becoming a ballet is true.

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>>150449694

Works for me

>>150452240
Everyone except for you.

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>>150452327

Sweet, I can anime post with immunity then!

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>>150451701
>tfw the /u/ team predates the Rebellion movie

Ya by over a year and I have no idea as to any name changes. That's really up to the board to decide.

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>>150452474

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>page 9

>>150455126

Cartoon Lesbians are garbage.

Cartoons are garbage.

Even in the context of fake 4chan video game soccer, you're embarrassing.

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>>150455841
I legitimately love you

>>150456146

I love you too anon, I just can't miss a shitposting layup like that.

>>150452976
>up to the board to decide

That would imply that there are board-native /u/ fans around the cup. Which we all know isn't true.

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>>150456310

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>>150456651

>>150457059
Doesn't the Women's "Football" Olympic event start tomorrow/today?

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>>150457059

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>>150457710
lots of great sports start soon....

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>tfw no british gymnastics grill

>>150457948
Are >we watching all this stuff together?
Because I'm down for it.

>>150457710
I just bought tickets to Poobin Basketball.
What should i expect?

>>150457059
>see this
>remember Gracen saying there's no sports yuri anime
>realize he's right
Go figure.

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>10

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Believe in /f/

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>10

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>>150449694
That's gay as shit, anon

>>150447658
Talentless Hack is still on the team.

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Finished off compiling and save fixing the faces, and the results are in.

Best Aesthetic effort go to a joint effort of /u/ and /mlp/, who both submitted perfect exports with an absolutely amazing set of blenders from both sides, looking forward to seeing the two of them play.
Runners up go to /m/ and /v/ who would have been up there, but /v/ fucked up a few IDs and Alteisen crashed my game.

Worst Aesthetic effort goes to /soc/, who had a total of 14 fucking Placeholder faces (despite them doing the same thing in Spring and us fixing it for them). Disappointing!

>>150464817
>specialspartan "aesthetics"

>>150464817
>and Alteisen crashed my game.
What the fuck? is literally the same files from Spring

>>150465303
It's only the edit menu it crashes in, due to the lack of 'oral_' at the start of two model files
It is fixed now, and everything works dandy

>>150465495
Good
Expect more blenders down the line

Hey Lear, when are you going to post the rules that you promised to, so you wouldn't be kicked out?

>>150465983

If there was a "vote", I'd keep him in. Suggesting that people owe you legalese is shit, this is a fun event.

Calm down and message him on Skype if you have a problem with the rules, instead of anon shitposting in the thread.

>>150464817
How many bouquet faces does /u/ have? Most of the team was this in Winter if I recall.

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>>150464817
>teams with the best aesthetics will get relegated
>soc will make it

This world isn't fair

>>150466378
LIDF on point tonight.

>>150466728
I had a dream last night they did

>>150466378
really fired up my brain synapses

>>150466840
>>150467130
>People call Lear out when he makes a mistake, but nobody actually calls for his head for no fucking reason
>"l-l-lear internet defense force guys! nobody actually likes him, unlike me, anonymous shitposter!"

Step up, boys. If you've got such a big issue with the status quo, step up.

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Good evening faggots I am the person formerly known to some miserable cunts here as "Canadafag," ask me anything in the next 30 minutes before I blacklist this shitty board for eternity.
Also I don't know the new shitty facebook tier memes since I haven't been here in almost a year and a half so don't bother posting them.
>inb4 post proof
Figure it out yourself cunt.

>>150467694
Is this dire bait?

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CHECK GROUP STAGES

>>150467694
You could have prevented this. Why have you forsaken us?

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>>150467929

Fuck off, /a/ is going to 9 point that shitty group.

>>150468108
Fuck off TWAIN

What's worse than being disliked? Being completely irrelegant.

Imagine being so shitty that you make two completely different cups worse just by being around - actually completely killing one.

That would be embarrassing, wouldn't it? I'd probably never post online again if it was me.

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>>150468117

>>150464128
Have you not watched any /mu/ games in a year and a half?

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>>150468284
Overall Rankings for each team here

>>150468446
That would be one of the worst cups ever
>/p/ relegating /f/
Just no, nigga

>>150468330
The entire team is talentless hacks, so it's OK.

>>150468108
>only made it to Summer because /gif/ and /wg/ fucked up

Oh you sure told me there bub :^)

>>150468446
>/asp/ /ck/ final
well at least it's a redeemable end?

>>150468715
>the two most successful managers to never win a cup going at it
I'd be ok with this

>>150468715
That's not even the final, it's the group stage rankings

>>150468897
I forgot Tinker exists.
/ck/ and /asp/ are probably the most successful teams to never win though.

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>>150468446
Kojimbles did this

dicks

>>150469279
Captain Sou Albano when. The people want it, make it happen.

>>150469279
u rike it?

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>>150467929
>/u/ lose to /mlp/ again

>>150469704
This will have to tide you over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wV-wtISG-E

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>>150467871
Figure it out yourself cunt.
>>150468060
Prevented what exactly? Also doing dumb shit like this is way too autistic for me after all, and with barely any help from other volunteers I decided its a waste of time and takes away from me doing other shit that actually matters for my career. I still don't get why people continue this dumb shit aside from attention. Don't regret hosting /icup/ at all, day one of the first cup was fun and enjoyable and I'm sad that I never got to really enjoy it again after that weekend.
>>150468108
Maybe if they had 2 CFs they would.

Also someone explain to me before I go why this general hasn't been moved to /trash/? You don't even talk about actual video games here 99% of the time.

>>150464817
>Best Aesthetic effort go to a joint effort of /u/ and /mlp/

/u/ that high? wew

Although I'll have a fix to attenuate Science's babies' clipperiffic hair.

>>150466583

Only one, we left it on the >goal sub

Every player that will actually play got a proper model, we even got new models for Akkarin, Madokami, Teru and PFOL.

>>150464817
>>150471521
>/u/ and /mlp/

So it's Group Beautiful, then?

>>150471740
/mlp/ have amazing aesthetics
/u/ have amazing aesthetics
/vr/ have amazing aesthetics
And /o/ is just there to have fun

>>150471740
>/u/, /mlp/, /vr/
>three of the GOAT aesthetics teams in the entire cup
>allowing any of the other groups to attempt to have a claim

>>150471841

/o/ has nice kits though

>>150471521
>Spitting Distance is the only bouquet player
Impressive.

>new models for Akarin, Madokami, Teru
Most impressive.

>and PFoL
I sure hope it's a boxhead and I sure hope it doesn't have ponies on it again.

Imagine being so oblivious that nobody wants to respond to your shit leddit "ask me anything" post, so you just reply to whatever's in the thread.

It's been longer than half an hour, I thought you were supposed to leave forever?

>>150439730
god of 4cc-core >rape
Alteisen
DA HOOD
>tfw no gf
Cunt Destroyer (rest in peace, he was the best)

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I need conspiracies please

Are fantasy teams still being added to the wiki?

>>150472020

Boxhead PFOL now belongs to past

Will a mod enable the hitbox vods once the stream ends friday, Will have to miss it.

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>>150472521

>>150472556
You honestly didn't miss much

>>150473078
>wanting boxheads on golds

Anon pls

>>150472383
[s4s] and /biz/ are conspiring to ensure /m/ gets relegated. Cap this.

>>150472383
/sp/ and /vp/ will rig it to top the group

>>150472383
Smugleaf snuck rigging files into Group B aesthetics to ensure /mlp/ 9 point

He'd do the same for /gd/, but he took a look at the group he actually got and it turns out he can probably 9 point it rig free

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>>150474305
>not rigging it for /vr/
Bros before hoes

>>150474487
I want to fuck that horse.

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>>150474809
At least it doesn't break GR15

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>>150474948
Of all the newspaper comics to make it to 4chan, why couldn't it be Pearls Before Swine? I fucking loved reading that.