/evn/ - English Visual Novels

How do we stop yuri?

Christmas already?

Absolutely haram.

>>150347257
You don't. You accept it.

Sekai Project has had at least 2 staff members quit or be fired in the last few days. The CEO said he's existing the market in an outburst on twitter. What's going on?

>>150347257
>wanting to stop it

>>150347508
>existing the market
What does this mean?

>>150347463
I would rather those girls accept dick.

>>150347257

Make yaoi the new meme.

>>150347621
*exiting the market

He also said he never wanted to get into the vn market to begin with.

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>>150347621

>>150347621
He can't wait to exit the market was what was said. If you've ever worked with the Japanese, you'd learn that they take this sort of thing very harshly. Seriously serious business people, the Japanese. Those outbursts probably screwed him over hard.

>>150348224
Are they even going to notice it?

>>150347621
If you don't exist the market , the ontological value of your VN will tend to 0.
Unless you are a phenomenologist; then you are allowed to apply epoché and suspend judgment about the natural world to instead focus on analysis of experience.

>>150348224
>Americans can't properly conduct themselves in business.
Embarrassing.

Does he mean quitting translations, publishing EVNs, or both? If both, what exactly did he originally want to do with Sekai Project?

>>150348085
>>150348257
This is for you. You know who you are.

>>150348313
I wouldn't be surprised if it managed to filter up.

>>150348505
RIP "don't know" anon.

Why do westerners say "I'm sorry" for things that don't necessarily affect them?

>>150349091
It's just the considerate thing to do and shows that you care.

>>150349091
Explain further senpai.

>>150349091
feigning sympathy is in everyone's best interest

>>150349370
But what do you do when they start asking for favors when they think you care?

>>150349273
https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=37305&start=15

Check how infel replies.

>>150349091
It is a saying to let people know that you are sad something bad happened to them. In that context you are not personally apologizing or insinuating that you were at fault.

>>150349578
>all those projects
>none are complete
10/10

>>150349578
"I'm sorry" is meant to be a more personal "that sucks."

>>150349370
Maybe I'm crazy, but some people actually have empathy and would prefer if things went right for other people.
Not that they would cry if not, but hey.

>>150349781
Are you glad you didn't donate to her kickstarter?

>>150349542
I apologize

>>150350308
You apologize and admit you feigned sympathy?

>>150350183
I'm mad it even succeeded in the first place.

>>150349578
Seconding anon who says "I'm sorry" = "that sucks".

I've been called out on this a lot myself

Them: Something shitty happened to me
Me: Oh no! I'm so sorry!
Them: ...Why? It's not your fault?

I think it's a holdover from my childhood when bad things happened to parents/teachers and they made sure I felt sorry whether I wanted to or not

>>150350642
Maybe it'll get finished this time. Is her track record the main reason you're ticked off? I tried to warn /u/, but nobody replied to my post, so I'm guessing they didn't listen.

>>150348145

How lonely do you have to be to go on twitter and spill your shit like that to everyone?

If you literally have no friends to vent to, you can just come on /v/ or some shit and start spewing all the garbage you want about your company and your broken goals. Noone will take anon seriously, and you don't get your dumb ass in trouble looking like you have no impulse control.

>>150350917
That's retarded. It's just another way people use the word sorry. It's a courtesy, and can display a lot more sincerity than "Wow, that sucks". Blame then for not understanding the English language.

>>150351406
This. It works and it's also pretty fun to derail a evn thread into a shit flinging mess just because you are having a bad day.

>>150352114
Who will give HRP undeserved press now that its publisher is burning all its bridges in the community?

Burn the bridges with fyre.

>>150352771
Actually, I have their demo sitting right here. Should I give it a go?

>>150352771
Don't worry, they've always got their pot of retards who signed away 30% of their revenue for them to tap into to use as marketing bait.

>>150353458
You want to see some shitty weeb writing and inconsistent art? Go for it bud.

>>150353458
It was boring and badly paced but go ahead. They said they were working on improving its pacing for the final release though.

>>150353458
It's not as bad as people will have you believe, but it has some pacing issues.

>>150353458
If you wanted to see what their "higher standard" VN looked like, go ahead.

>>150354332
hi chris

>>150354468
hi JP

>>150354581
hi Tao

>>150354732
Shut up Mao

Why were people mad about Deji's kickstarter for Caramel Mokaccino? The goal seemed a bit high and I'm a bit worried about feature creep from the stretch goals, but hopefully the game will come out at some point. Deji is know for being pretty slow though, so it probably won't come out on schedule.

>>150355002
No.
Who is this Mao you talk about?

>>150355675
because she was charging commission rates for her own project

>>150356076
>he doesn't know who Mao is
look at this newfag and laugh

>>150355675

Because she was pretty vocal HOW MUCH she just WANTED to add more things to the game but she couldn't because of the money - when realistically speaking, if she wanted them so badly, she could have just lowered her own pay. In fact, she ended up doing just that for the last stretch goal.

>>150356086
A girl's gotta eat steak at an expensive restaurant.

>>150355675
Because the game has been in development for years with no progress and they were adding extra features like it was going out of style.

>>150358147
I'm sure over $27,000 USD can only mean good things for the project and the free yuri vn they offered along with it.

>>150358763

Surely the game will be the goty in 2050, when it finally comes out.

How to become a caring member of LSF?

>>150361386
Tell people they should reach for the stars even if it's unrealistic, tell them they're being unrealistic, tell them they're not offering people enough pay, and try to get them to start by working for exposure.

>>150361386
Share your knowledge.

So guys, what steps should I take to make a contract with my artist (who's already on board)?

>>150366276
Make a "Flake-Out Clause"

>>150366276
you get them to sign a contact forbidding them from working with anyone else, a la winged cloud/alienworks.

>>150366401
Explain.

>>150366481
In case of personal problems that would require a long time off, or is would render you completely unproductive, please notify me right away.

>>150366481
If they leave, you still have the right to use what art they already created. You still have to pay them for what they completed though.

>>150367021
Ah got it, to prevent any mishaps like that Fetish farm game.

>>150366276
This is what I made my artist agree to:

- Excellent communication
I understand considering the timezone differences responses will be delayed, but whilst working on a commission I expect
consistent updates from you, and that if something happens that will affect your ability to respond in a timely manner,
you will inform me of this in advance as soon as you can.

- Commitment
This project will be a lengthy process and it involves a lot of work. You must be willing to be in this for the long haul, and not
suddenly drop the project if things get hard. You must have dedication to your work, and want to finish the job I'm hiring you for.

- Able to meet deadlines
You currently have -insert deadline here-.
There will be no flexibility in this date. I must have the final artwork by then, otherwise it will delay the release of the entire project.

- A good attitude
As we will be working together for an extended period, it is important that as well as being able to deliver artwork on time
you are able to maintain a good business relationship. There will be times when edits and changes to pieces will need to be made, and I expect such occurences to be handled in a professional manner.

>>150367150
>>150367021
>>150366401

Piggybacking off all this. Any good attorneys you guys recommend to take a look at this?

>>150367268
I'm just a third-worlder so I can't recommend any.

>>150368442
Why the fuck do you always have to point out being a third worlder?

>>150368597
Notify potential differences in culture, education and lifestyle?

>>150369007
What does any of that fucking matter?
You just have to shoehorn 3rd worlder every single time as if anyone cares. It's gotten to a point that I can take a pretty good guess of who you are because of your obnoxiousness.

>>150369702
Go ahead lol.

>>150366276
the only thing you can do is set the terms for ownership of the pieces being transferred to you after payment. you can't force them to work only for you or finish work.

>>150368597
He is actually a rich western guy who dreams of the exotic third world lifestyle.

>>150369702
Woah anon, step away from the keyboard

>>150369702
He just wants to be a meme anon. Let a man dream.

>>150370492
I did.

>>150369994
You're that sheepstorm guy

>>150371737
Using the archives?

https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=39681

Will /evn/ finally see its demise?

>>150377406
no

Dont be distracted!

>>150334642
this actually looks neat

>>150379284
It's by a dev who didn't finish his first Kickstarted project as I recall.

>>150379419
They did release a part of Driftwood though, so there's that.

This new project seems like it has a lot of progress put into it already though. But eh, I wouldn't hold my breath, it might turn out like Driftwood after all. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

>>150347257
>Putting down an unpopular thing
>This is probably the first time that yuri fans get something in a long while
Give us a break broham.

>>150379284
Too ambitious to pull it off. Bad history with the main dev. The only good thing about it are the backgrounds. I love it. So tired of halfassed 3D bg. I don't mind 3D just as long as it blends well with the sprites. Which happens almost never.

>>150380494
Yeah the backgrounds are absolutely stunning. I assume it is Daodao's. I wonder just how much experience this guy has, he's apparently worked on a studio (though not sure if anime or whatever)

I'd say the character art is swell as well. Definitely eye-catching.

>>150379284
The game looks okay, but
>$45,000
How delusional is he?

Tea or coffee?

>>150383730
coffee

>>150383730
Coffee. Tried tea before but I never tasted good to me.

>>150371737
Sheepstorm here, what's up?

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>>150248050
>ML anon
>AA anon
>loli dogfucker anon
I'm way late, but I guess I deserve this.
I'm just disappointed that you didn't prefix it with incestuous

>>150262683
Thanks /hgg/ bro. Single, do everything ourselves masochist devs gotta stick together. I look forward to hearing more about your project when you're ready to reveal it.

Are we alive?

>>150386138
maybe

We will survive.

>>150388571
YEAH YEAH

ssssssssssss

shhhhh im sleepy

>>150391883
BEEEP BEEEP BLEEP BAARRRRRPPP I'M YOU'RE ALARM DING DING DING AAAAAAHHHHHHHH GET UP GETUP

nah just kidding. Sleep tight~ ^_^

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>>150392263
DINGDONGDINGDONG BANANA PHONE

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>tfw you wake up in the morning and immediately re-word the mess of the last few sentences from the previous night into something a lot more eloquent and descriptive.

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>>150394610
>tfw you let people play a text-only version of what you're doing and get feedback that allows you to improve basically everything

Is built-in text history in the current renpy version or in some nightly build or whatever?

>>150397334
It's in pre-release. Meaning it will be on the next official release.

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> just 6 cgs left

so close, yet so far...

>>150397401
okay thanks

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Elves are for ___

>>150402552
petting

>>150402552
shipping with dwarves.

>>150402552
pegging

>>150402552
futa and yuri

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>>150402552
breakdancing

About this Driftwood 2.0 thing. It is supposed to have lewds, can you even kickstart something like that? Isn't making "porn" against their prudish ToS?

>>150405304
People offer "tasteful adult scenes" not porn. The ero scenes that appear in most evn aren't exactly explicit for the most part anyway. Most of the evn ero artists aren't very good at drawing naked bodies either. Remember Seiyuu Danshi's naked characters?

>>150406098
I didn't want to remember. Fuck you.

>>150406098
SD chibis are pretty ugly imo. Not something I want to see in a sex game.

>>150406401
Chibi sex scenes are the future. Someone should commission Tao to draw chibi futa porn.

>>150406401
They have to copy No, Thank You enough for people to want it.

>>150407241
I can't believe you blalantly they ripped off NTY, even after several people pointed it out.

How is everyone today?

Your vn has been given an extremely negative review by several reviewers. You notice that they misinterpreted your story and mentioned flaws that weren't even in your vn. How do you respond while remaining professional?

>>150411150
You don't respond. Reviews are not comments aimed at you. Some people will interpret your work in ways you don't like and you have to deal with it. There will likely be positive reviews as well for people to base their impressions off of, and if not, then consider that maybe you did do something wrong after all.

>>150411846
Prominent reviewers will convince people that your game isn't worth buying if they didn't like it for whatever reason.

>>150412029
And responding to it will only make you look defensive. There is no response to a review that will make you look good. Not all people are mindless sheep and some might play your game anyway, especially if it actually is good.

>>150412159
>And responding to it will only make you look defensive. There is no response to a review that will make you look good.
This, sadly. I just say "Thank you for playing my game."

>>150412029
>>150411150
Let's make this simple, shall we? No one will give you brownie points over being mature, just indifference. Defending yourself only stands to make you look worse in the long run, on the other hand. Cut your losses and keep walking. Once your work is released, it should speak for itself.

>>150412727
Then why do so many devs try to argue with people? AJ Tilley has literally bullied people into changing their reviews for his games on Steam. Though that hasn't seemed to work well for other devs.

>>150413262
they take bad reviews as personal offenses.

>>150413351
The power of poor PR skills at work.

>>150413262
This. Just because someone else can't conduct themself properly and threw a temper tantrum doesn't mean you should too.

>>150413262
>Then why do so many devs try to argue with people?
Because they're fucking idiots who have no concept of PR, that's why.

Post the worst excuse you've ever gotten for someone flaking out on your project.

>>150415324
I wish they had some excuses instead of just ignoring my emails

>>150415324
They said my project is shit ;_;

>>150397557
>bars on both sides
A-are they sitting in a baby's crib?

>>150417662
I think that's a table next to the couch they're sitting on, anon.

>>150418010
yeah, that's a coffee table.

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I wonder how subtle is this.

>>150420381
Did they insert before sleeping?

>>150420381
What is this?

>>150423882
n-no, try again (it's not that hidden)

>>150420381
Family is kill?

>>150420381
I don't get it desu

>>150407241
Out of all the things you can say they took from NTY, you pick SD art? The thing so common a ton of VNs have a dedicated SD artist?

>>150425110

it's more "they copied so much, they also copied the SD art."

>>150423882
>>150424113
>>150424284
>>150424779
This is the last 7 lines of one of the endings.
You end up with someone who you don't really wanted to. She can read your thoughts.
This piece of text sounds extremely out of place.

Okay now...


Read the first letters of each lines backwards.

>>150425680
That's like saying "they copied so much, they also copied branching paths."

>>150425732

This only makes sense if you have some prompt regarding the order of the endings, like a list or a gallery.

>>150426043

That makes sense to me.

The opposite ("it's like NTY but without branching paths") would be an example of a difference.

>>150426058
what

>>150426305

sorry, I read that as "the last line of 7 of the endings". Disregard my comment.

>>150425732
>Read the first letters of each lines backwards.
That's asking a little too much from a visual novel format unless it's NVL. Even then, first letter backwards might be too obscure. I did read the first letter (and word) of each sentence but didn't try it backwards.

>>150425732

It reminds me of the time I slipped a message in Morse code into one of our art assets, and my co-writer said "ah yes, just let me... read Morse code..."

Basically, shit like that is fun to put in, but don't expect anyone at all to pick up on it unless they know to be looking / what to look for.

>>150426284
What I'm saying is it's nonsense to say they copied an element found in a vast majority of visual novels. When people say EVNs copy JVNs nobody ever says things like "it has sprites facing the reader, just like _____!"

>>150426721
>>150426772
It's non-essential.
You can read the story as a happy end.
Or...
Realise, that the last 7 lines sounds a bit out of place.
If you don't notice it, it's still a full experience.

>>150426914

when you're lifting half of your elements from another game, even the ones shared by lots of others vns become more obvious. They DIDN'T have to use sd art, but they chose to.

>>150427146
>even the ones shared by lots of others vns become more obvious
Did the trace the chibis or does the style look the same or what? Otherwise you're making no sense.

What the heck is sd art anyway

>>150427117
You can't really expect the reader to pick up on something they can't see properly. If this isn't NVL, they won't see the lines as a block like that and it likely won't occur to even the craftiest of them to try to read the first letters backwards.

>>150428401
Clearly your readers don't care as much about your works as mine do!

>>150431967
what readers

>>150432282
Exactly!

RIP

>>150437004
Completely dead. I guess I'll have to start talking about my awesome project soon and be the shill.

https://sekaiproject.com/staff/

Their CEO has been removed along with the fired PR guys.