/4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization, and 4x General

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>[YouTube] CIVILIZATION VI Official Announcement Trailer

Alpha Centauri sucks.

>>150330936
Beyond Earth sucks too.

>>150330504
Nigga clearly doesn't know what he is doing.

>>150330936
>>150332090
Old games always sucks because it took years to develop a decent AI.

>>150330936
You take that back before I nerve staple your bitch drone ass.

>>150332703
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but it's true.
I spawned next to the alien faggots, they literally spent the entire game attacking me. I don't know how they kept pumping up units, so I was ALWAYS under attack.

>>150332857
You want to get rid of mind worms, you have to remove fungus

Even if you do, you'll still be attacked if you pollute too much

Alpha Centauri is one of the most universally-acclaimed strategy games of all time. You are objectively wrong if you really believe it sucks. Just get gud.

>>150333138
I don't mean the little bitches of The Many, I mean the ayyys introduced in Crossfire.
The worms are easily manageable, just hide in a town and let them come.

>>150333238
Well no one said Alien Crossfire was that good.

If you must use it, you're better off only using the original factions.

>>150333520
Well, fuck.

Are all the AIs able to spout a shitload of units anyway? I'm so used to Civ4 and Civ5 that I find Alpha Centauri a bit confusing with its "units are locked in combat until one is dead" gameplay.

tfw you wanna create an individualist pacifist utopian empire

tfw individualist bonus is pretty garbage

>>150333649
Some factions are better at it then others. The aliens are just straight up better than the human factions at just about everything; they only exist for people who want a deliberately asymmetrical game.

But yeah, especially on higher difficulties, the AI loves to build more units than you expect. Yang in particular.

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>>150334225
That's the catch : I was playing in easy and still got swarmed.
If this was normal mode and if my scouts couldn't stand against shock infantry, I would've lost.


Fucking Vert who kept building wonders before I could finish mine, too.

Stellaris was a mistake

when are they going to fix catherine de medici drinking red wine out of a champagne glass? It's unbelievably triggering to me.

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why

is galactic civilizations iii good or is it a meme game like memesters of orion?

>>150338209
it's good, a little bland though

What is a good first space 4x game for someone new to the genre?

I know civilization is baby's first 4x game, but historical and genetic fantasy settings always bored me to tears.

>>150339972
Rance Civilizations 2.
Distant Rance : Universe.
Rance at War.
Galaxy Rance.
War on a Rance Scale.

>mfw Command and Conquer Generals perfectly integrated unlimited ressources to compensate for natural ressources running out
>but completely fucked the Chinese in the ass by making them extremely vulnerable to units-spawning abilities

Don't diiiiiie!

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They are cute

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>>150347510

>>150347510
>>150347710
>being anything but space waifu

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>>150347710

is stellaris any good yet?

>>150330325
I haven't played Stellaris since release, is there a changelog or tl;dr of the changes they've made thus far? Tempted to get back into it again but I'm not sure if it's worth it to repirate it all.

>>150348796
If you didn't like at the start you aren't going to like it now.

>>150348839
There's literally what, 2 updates since it came out? Just read their changelogs.

>>150348910

i havent played it at all yet, i heard that as of release the late game was so bad that it wasnt worth playing

is that still the case?

>>150349142
Depends on what you are looking in the game. It wasn't bad, it was boring after the first game.
That's still the case.

>>150349236

i see, looks like ill have to skip it still then

tnx tho mate

>>150347510
So the cities were exactly like the one hiden ingame

>>150349142
The early and mid game is fun the first time you play it, then it's shit.

>UI is terrible, especially for managing plenty of planets
>diplomacy is laughably fucking bad
>micromanaging is spore levels of pain in the dick
>gameplay is REALLY repetetive (same quests every single game, same opener, very similiar playstyle, just going around building space stations to get higher income and science gain)
>combat broken as fuck
The game is just really shallow and repetetive, and not repetetive in the fun kind like Civ is.

>>150347710
They look like arthropoids with leaves

Do the plants actually add anything to the game besides more races, or is it just an official mod that they're charging money for?

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>>150347925
>he knows

>>150347510
have plants been released?

So, this Wednesday a bunch of ecelebs will be allowed to release their footage of a 150-turn test game, and Beach will be doing an official stream later in the day.

What are you looking forward to?

>>150350860
I am sure they will have some negative modifiers against the player like -1000000 "you eat us"

Has anyone here tried th SMAC mod for BE? I just can't get into these bland leaders and I think it's keeping me from wanting to even finish a playthrough.

>human ship
>rectangular, aerodynamic and practical design
>looks like a spaceship should

>molluscoid ship
>look like fucking squids or crustaceans

>fungoid ship
>looks like a fucking mushroom

>arthropoid ship
>it looks like some fucking bug or a beehive


Why do they do this?

>>150357181
t. dumb human

>>150357181
Better question is, why are there only one style of ship per species? Super limited

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>>150357181
>Aerodynamic
>in space

>>150359275
>ether
>no in space
Its like you don't want to sail in space.

if you guys didnt know
theres a civ stream going on wednesday at 4 pm EST on the firaxis stream, thats going to start at turn 45, when they're just founding a religion. it will also feature a new civ (that will be shown tomorrow in the new civ showing) that will probably be spain or someone else religious focused.
https://twitter.com/FiraxisGames/status/760203667207094272
https://twitter.com/EdBeach23/status/760278872436961280

>page 10

>>150359908
>sail in space.
>no sails
it's like you don't even know how to boat

so, is Sins of a Solar Empire a 4X game? It looks kind of cool, and I need something to play while I wait for them to finish Stellaris.

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>betrayed one hour later

>>150364526
RT4X

>>150364526
It's an RTS with hefty 4x influences. With a side of really well done WC3 hero units for capital ships. It's a lot of fun by oh my the learning curve is more of a cliff and it doesn't hesitate to rip your fucking nuts off even on the easy difficulties when you're new.

>>150364526
>>150365608
Oh and there's a sizable mod undertaking to make a total conversion that's essentially star trek armada 3.

Anyone get any Commonwealth of Man vs United Nations of Earth events?

I ask because i started an observer game just to trigger a crisis and I see the two of them together on the map, which I haven't had happen before.

>>150332324
Lad, SMAC probably has better AI than Civ V

Is it possible to get rid of Wild Storms modifier with terraforming?

>>150365254
>trusting a man that talks about peace while he stands in front of a burning city wielding a huge sword
You only have yourself to blame

Solar Panel Network.

Yes or no?

>>150374993
Yes, it's very good early game.
Becomes totally irrelevant late-game, but by then you're post-scarcity economy so who cares what you do

>>150374993
yep I put it on every spaceport

>>150330325
>don't make new thread
>nobody else does
>they still don't fix OP
Then the LORD said to me, "Where is your thread /vg/4xg/?" "I don't know," I replied. "Am I my thread's keeper?"

>>150376727
I was 2 seconds from making a thread with a fixed op, but they beat me to it.

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>>150376727
I saw the threads you made m8

>>150377010
What threads I made? I was asleep when the thread died, confident as I was a new one would be made like last thread.

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>>150377053
Previous threads I mean, you usually make a mistake somewhere else when fixing the other. I was joking

Also I noticed I have no images of Catherine at all, I should visit civfanatics for some

>>150377010
>>150377219
who the fuck is this fat pig you keep posting?

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>>150377219
Stalker.

Friendly reminder that :
You couln't save Kharak.
Familiar of Zero's author died before he could finish it.
The Infinite War has not been completely stopped.
Age of Empires III is still a thing.
You're going to die.
Rise of Legends will never get a sequel explaining what the Cuotl gods were.
Battle Realms II will never come out.
RTS casualized so much that Age of Empire IV will likely have easy controls for consoles.
Due to Arrakis getting terraformed, there are no more source of Spice.

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I have a feeling Firaxis' workers of today don't really know how to make noses

>>150379376
They're going for some weird playdough style
Honestly liked CiV for realism and Civ IV for cutesyness, this feel like it's trying to go a middle road and fails both.

>>150378948
>Age of Empires III
I didn't play it. What's wrong with it?

>>150379837
Just go torrent it and try it out, or go back one or two threads where two people basically listed out all the problems with it.

>>150378948
You forgot
Black and White III will never exist
EE III is still a thing and so shit it killed the studio outright
CK2 will never be optimized
We will never get the shit that Rome 2 stripped out in total war again

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>>150379502
I think he's going after how red the tip of the nose is, i.e. the "tumblr nose", which is poor technique used in lieu of actually learning how to draw a nose.

>>150379837
It's massively dumbed down compared to the second.

>>150379936
>mfw I have Black and White 2
>but for Mac because I forgot to check
>could never play it

>>150379945
I never fucking got it either
It doesn't even make it look more like a nose, if you'd just get rid of the tint it's actually look better

>>150380035
It's not just dumbed down though
Maps are fucktiny
It's optimized for multiplayer such that a multiplayer system is jammed into singleplayer
You run out of fucking wood in the game when it's about colonizing
There's so many things limited like only making one / two castles (no, the 'castles' the asians get are just fucking towers) and only getting 2 factories maximum
Immortal scouts

>>150379936
Also
>it is now impossible to find Let's Play on Youtube without shitty comments
>people care more about being famous than being good, leading to a community copying scrubs

Anyone is interested in playing civ 5 multiplayer someday? The only way to play online is through private games with groups of people, I can never find games in the online game list.

>>150380343
I'm terrible but if you'll have me sure.

>>150378948
My dad read the Infinite War.
Any good?
No idea what the Familiar of Zero is.

>>150380561
The Infinite War is also the conflict depicted in Supreme Commander.
Despite global peace at the end of SupCom 2, there's still trouble brewing.

Familiar of Zero is some Japanese manga thing about a flat tsundere or something.

>>150380343
I'd join but because of my internet speed and country, I'd probably have terrible ping/lag.

Do post pics here if you guys have a game though

>>150380779
>manga

>>150380995
Excuse me, "graphic novels"

>>150381286
>The Familiar of Zero is a fantasy and comedy-oriented series of Japanese light novels written by Noboru Yamaguchi, with illustrations by Eiji Usatsuka.
It's an LN you idiot, if you didn't know what it was why even respond?

>>150380995
Excuse me, "runes stapled together".

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>>150381395
>typing runes in sequence in a hunnic throat-singing forum sacked by the vandals
For what purpose?

>First operation of Impending Doom for the Irkens.
>Expand too quickly, realize frontier outposts take influence AFTER I have 4 of them with mines everywhere.
>Second Impending Doom operation of the Irkens.
>Expand too slowly, neighbor is one of those advanced starts, other pushes borders on me and kicks me out of a system I had mines and research stations in.
I hope I get it right this time. 25 hours and nothing to show for it.

How soon should I jump on another planet? This time the idea was to wait for one that would put 2 or more other systems in my boarders, and one other planet only had 60% hospitality that I snagged.

>>150381772
Addendum: I waited until I had destroyers to start plans of conquest.
Is that way too slow?

>>150381881
As soon as you got me hard ships, mate.

Is it possible to toggle hyperlanes? I shouldn't have researched this shit.

>>150382201
what? researched what shit? Have you somehow switched from warp/wormhole to hyperlanes?

>>150384459
There's a rare tech that lets you see hyperlanes regardless of your FTL type.

>>150382201
Not that I'm aware of

>>150384725
>rare tech that lets you see hyperlanes
that's pretty fucked for hyperlane players. I didn't know because I always play hyperlanes only.

>>150384814
I could see it being an issue in a MP game if everyone else is playing HL and you're using either warp or especially wormholes. But I've used it to great effect against the AI when several HL only races declared war on me. I was able to trap them since I knew the way they'd be coming at me.

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This is the most defensible city I've ever fucking seen. Those sea grasses you see cost 2 movement to go through.

>>150347935
FEED ME, SEYMOUR

>>150385043
I've seen cities by Dido that was made in middle of mountains so that they couldn't literally be conquered. Pretty defensible if you ask me

>>150385196
That's more of an exploit-y kind of thing though.
This shit is just
Like, there's an entire line of fucking chokepoints from both sea and land

>>150382201
What game?

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Anyone else excite for the giggle physics they're adding?

>>150385414
No, because they're not attached to hot bodies.
I wonder if I'll be able to somehow import models from somewhere else. Maybe they'll use a format CBBE or ECE can output to.

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>>150385473
>Not wanting to see a smooth Catherine the Great with giggle physics
You gay or some shit?

>>150385561
I'm just not into dead girls.

>>150385632
They aren't digging up skeletons and putting them on the screen nigga.

>>150385714
Of course not. That would be spooky and scary.

They add some meat on the skeleton first.

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>>150385473
>they're not attached to hot bodies.
I'm still hoping for mods

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>>150385561

Question about sins.

Should I instantly rush for the Mothership or wait first? With the starting fund you can afford it easily but I was wondering if I should wait first.

>>150386008
At least it's not Alpha Centauri.

I was kinda traumatized by what happens when someone is defeated.

>>150386046
You mean the Titan?

>>150386081
No, the capitals with the ability to colonise.

>>150385831
>>150385473
You faggots are acting like they already revealed all the bitches.

>>150385414
Cleo has a 5/10 face but a 10/10 body. She's a bad bitch and I'd fuck her.

>>150386151
Depends. I personally prefer going for a frontline fighting capital ship.

If you just want to colonize, you have ships that can do that. You don't need to immobilize your entire fleet while waiting for the antimatter.

>>150385561
>Not wanting to see a smooth Catherine the Great with giggle physics
Except that won't be what she looks like even if Civ VI has her as DLC.

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>>150386607
Adding jiggle physics to dead girls don't change a thing.

>>150386081
>I was kinda traumatized by what happens when someone is defeated.
Shit, me too. That game was nuts to witness as a kid. I think I was 7 or 8 or something when my dad bought the game and taught me how to play it.

>that intro where the little girl gets polarized and shit
>those psi projects which had insane scenes taken from baraka
>those faction eradicated cutscenes

Yet it's the comfiest of memories, playing primitive games with dad on Amiga and later on Win98.

>>150385561
>smooth Catherine the Great with giggle physics
Stop it, I already jerked off twice this morning.

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>>150386909
What are you talking about? Zombie girls can have nice tits too.

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>wonderhunting with isabella
>find and settle near victoria in just 5 turns
>discover 2 other wonders for a total of 1,5k gold
>start with free granary and worker
This shit is why I'm still enjoying this game. And I didn't even savescum, Victoria was right there, 6 tiles away.

>>150379376
>red wine
>champagne glass
fr*ckin' REEEE

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>>150386008
I giggled

>>150388239
Rigor Mortis prevents dead girls from having nice boobs.

>>150388392
>implying
If you let her hug you for a bit, she warms up and the jiggle starts. It also allows her to leg-lock.

>>150388270
>only 10 workable tiles
was it worth it?

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>>150388293
I miss these from good ole /civ4x/ times.

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>>150388423
>hugging a zombie is hot
Bitch please. I know what I'm doing.

In this instance, I'm picking the "staying alive" option.

>>150388435
No him but he has Fish nearby too, and who gives a shit about that many workable tiles when you can just spam specialists

>>150388435
>is having a city with starting with 12 food+salt worth it?
It may not be the best city in the game in 2000AD, but that shit is going to propel me forward so much, I don't think it will even be a challenge to dominate the game with this start.

>>150388521
Jiangshi are sentient and often retain their living memories though, and if you own the controller tag to match the control tag on her head you can literally make her do anything, even rewrite her personality or memories. Not sure about the MGE version but that's the mythical version.

>>150388597
I don't think you needed the granary. It would have been better to buy the salt and hills when you settled. I don't know why you are improving the horse and making those useless farms instead of improving the salt.

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>>150388521
>I'm picking the "staying alive" option.

>>150388826
>Mr. Vampire
What? No I'm just saying in terms of Chinese mythology. Granted they were used as weapons and soldiers instead of sex toys but yeah.
>cold
She can be warm if you order her to and she (or you) are powerful enough to simply generate heat on the spot.

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>>150388270
>only 1 wonder
>turn 70
pssh

>>150388270
>2 other wonders for a total of 1,5k gold
>start with free granary and worker
Should've bought settlers imo

>>150388803
I just got the salt and hadn't researched mining yet, I rushed for GL, I'm on it now though.
>>150388943
It's on marathon.
>>150388952
>settlers
Nigga do you even National College?

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how do i git gud with darius

>>150389008
Well I never watched that movie, for starters, but Vampires don't exist in China and Jiangshi aren't the same as them. For one they literally can't move without a controller.

>>150388987
>settling after national college
Enjoy having no good land
>rushing great library
Why are you playing on prince?
>not getting mining first tech as spain with wonder gold to buy a worker and salt in the capital

I bet you open tradition then go into liberty too

>>150389160
>Enjoy having no good land
I'll enjoy having good science instead
>Why are you playing on prince?
I just wanted to have some fun ;_;
>not getting mining first tech as spain with wonder gold to buy a worker and salt in the capital
Truth is, I didn't even realize the salt there when I started the game yesterday, so yeah, I fucked up with that.

>>150389160
Mate who cares this isn't a competitive game

>>150389197
>feral Jiangshi
You mean the ones that hung around people for so long they've gotten enough Yang energy to move on their own or the ones who are animal souls in human corpses? I'm not sure what a feral jiangshi refers to here.

>Wikipedia page
The Wikipedia page has lot of bullshit like:
>A person injured by a jiangshi is infected with the "jiangshi virus" and gradually changes into a jiangshi over time, as seen in the Mr. Vampire films.
That's lifted from western Vampire tales, not Chinese folklore. There's no such thing as transmitting jiangshi-ness in traditional folk tales that I've heard of, although I guess if you've had so much Yang drained out of you that you're basically a walking corpse, it'd be effectively the same thing (although if you're left alone you'll go back to normal).

Also
>Jiangshi need Yang energy to move
>semen is literally almost pure Yang
>there is theological basis for using semen to power Jiangshi

>>150390032
>Aren't you aware that myths change with time?
And I'm referring to the ones still distinct from Western vampires, the ones most people understand you refer to when you say Jiangshi in China proper instead of a western colony.
>at first they needed Qi then it changed to Yang
No. They never needed pure Qi. They needed YANG Qi. They have too much Yin Qi.

>>150390134
So talking with you was a waste of time.
I wish I figured that earlier.

>>150390179
>if you're not referring to my specific brand of jiangshi I'm just wasting my time haha you retard
???

Guys what the fuck is this jap/chink shit? Come back to real life that is 4x games.

>>150378948
There's artificial spice Anon, it's far more potent and dangerous though

>>150390912
Just an idiot thinking Darkstalker is legit info.

>>150390972
Who's that one? Quote them so I can tell who you're agreeing with and whether or not ur a fgt

>>150390971
In Frank's books, or in the one his bastard son created?

>>150391283
His bastard son

>>150378948
>Due to Arrakis getting terraformed, there are no more source of Spice.
>implying
The Bene Gesserit carried the sand worms to their home planet which was turning into a new desert planet by the end of Franks books. I don't know what happens in his sons books because they don't exist.

>>150391347
Then it doesn't count. At least not for me.

Homeworld is shit.

Nightside is shit.

>>150330325
Who is hype for Stars beyond reach?

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Woah, imagine what would average joe working his ass off in Seville would think when he sees this.

>>150393419
Arcen's game?

>>150380779
>supcom
TA history is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mZZiI4ShQ

>>150393448
Probably confused as fuck because they don't know what a cloud is.

>>150393569
>implying anything is better than SupCom
Bitch give me your adress and I'll come over and have consensual sex with your sister, marry her, become your brother-in-law, and make your life misery.

>>150393448
Those fish tiles made me ejaculate

>>150389037
Get them happiness/golden age wonders and dont pop artist-golden ages until you want to war.

>>150393704
I said the history. The grafiks and big gunz on supcom are good. Supcom2 is shit and you should feel shit for considering even to think playing it.

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>Conquer the whole neighborhood clean of xenophobic spiritualist imperialists
>Vassalizing and annexing empires and territories since ever
>Nobody cared
>Great diplomatic relations with everyone except this clusterfucker of haters south of my borders
>Attack the last hateful empire(Sovereignty of Guma) left at my borders
>Basically everyone hates them and they are rivals with my two friends and me
>Force them to cede 5 systems
>Suddenly the entire galaxy hates me

Wut.

Even my closest friends that I had research agreements, migration treaties and defensive pacts and shit just went "fuck it" and dropped all treaties and they now consider me the biggest threat ever even though I have never done anything even remotely aggressive towards them. On the contrary, I helped those assholes in their wars of conquest and I helped them rid the Scourge from their empires and now they hate me?

Why do they want to make an enemy of me? Why destroy such great relations for the sake of these puny slaver motherfuckers?

We fought wars against multiple other slavers to make them stop atrocities, my empire single-handedly annihilated the Prethoryn Scourge from the galaxy and this is our reward for all the good I've done.

We, at the Federation of United Empires do not conquer or subjugate. We unite people. We unite the misguided empires and rid the galaxy of evil.

I guess it's time to unite the galaxy.

>>150393849
Bitch, the only good thing in SupCom2 is the campaign. And by campaign, I mean the scenario. The rest is passable.

>>150393865
You go, big E!

>it's a AI does nothing but pump out great prophets and send them to convert your cities and if you ask him to stop he ignores you and if you attack him to force him to stop you are literally worse than hitler episode

>>150393448
>that city placement
offensive to the eyes

>>150394492
...
If you leave an inquisitor in your city they can't convert it via prophets or missionary

>>150394614
Nigga please. I know what I'm doing.

>>150394727
What the fuck difficulty are you playing on that petra was available at turn 300 and babylon's third expand is still pop 2?

What's the best fantasy Civ 5 mod

>>150394983
A complete overhaul? There is literally only one AFAIK, Faerun

>>150394983
none, civ 5 is shit for mods
just play master of mana

>>150394614
I just settled near the NatWonders.

New to Civ V
Tutorial AI keeps recommending me build me farms around my city in empty tiles. Seems like a waste to me atm while I haven;t got the civilians to even operate them and there are better food tiles elsewhere. What else do you recommend to build on empty tiles if your food/production levels are ok?

New First Look video, Pedro II of Brazil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oh2HzwZxOc

>>150395896
Someone start dumping /lat/ memes

>>150395896
This has to be the worst model so far

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>>150395896
>DUDE THE MODELS LOOK FINE

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>>150395896
>carnival
>rainforest
RIO IS NOT BRAZIL AND BRAZIL IS NOT THE AMAZON REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HUEEEEEEEEEHUEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>150396562
>caring
Brazil is a literal meme nation only slightly better than Kongo in the Bongo in the base game.

>>150395896

>call game civilization
>put a non-civilization in it

lol

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>>150396280
Yeah, no.

Cleo manages to be sort of cute, Vici is a caricature, but that guy just looks like a huge faggot.

Sorry, HUE BR?, nobody deserves this.

>>150396832
It's the same as Montezuma
He looks like a wild fucking animal

>>150396280
I swear i saw this guy on some dreamworks or pixar movie before

>>150397102
He looks like Goofy

>red noses
so what, being a raging alcoholic is the theme here?

>>150347510
>>150347710
>>150347935
GIVE ME IT NOW PARADOX
I NEED MY PLANT WAIFU IN STELLARIS!

>>150397436
Being a raging alcoholic with an alcoholic mother.
>comments section full of Hues defending their nation

>>150397546
>mother.
This reminded me, I think Pedro's grandmother and grandmother's grandmother was in Civ V, I hope they do something like this in too

Maria liberating Pedro or the otherway around always made me chuckle

I know I'm retarded

What do you guys think of the preorder bonus?
I think it's pretty reasonable if they don't pull any other bullshit

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>>150397761
I think it looks like trash.

is the civ 5 vox populi community patch thing good
the ai cheating seems even more blatant than usual otherwise it doesnt seem that different other than a few things. I've heard the changes become more prevalent later on though.

>>150396731
hehe

>>150396280
it's cartoony, it looks fine from that sort of style.

>>150398342
I don't mean the civ, the idea of cockblocking content for 90 days

>>150398851
Yeah but you can't defend this from the caricature angle anymore. No one from Civ IV manages to look this fucking ridiculous.

>/4xg/ ded
>start Kumo thread
>dead
Like pottery.

>>150330325
someone from grand startegy general said 4xg is accepting rts refugees, is that correct or are they strategizing an elaborate plan to overthrow other forms of strategy games?

>>150401707
Just start talking

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>>150401801
Well I gotta go out for pizza but i'm an rts noob and i want some advice on how to wreck my friend in red alert 2 yuri's revenge or some shit.

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>tfw everyone loves my arch enemy, the Scyldari Scumfederacy, and the entire galaxy hates me with passion.

How can I be loved again?

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>>150395896
>all these ass blasted folk in the comments crying about Firaxis "wasting" a civ spot

Feels good mang

>>150404707
t. Pedro
Brazil is a shit-tier choice, just barely above Kongo and Scythians.

>>150385414
Jesus, man.
I read that exactly as you typed it. I was wondering here why you would be so excited to see some girls giggle at you. Then I started to think that it would be sort of neat, odd, but neat, to have an engine that just makes them giggle somehow when they talk and move and shit.

Jiggle. You want Jiggle. With a "J".

>>150405527
>not wanting to hear sexual giggles

Is it possible to completely turn off the autosave feature in civ5 online play? I suspect it's causing large delays before the turns start turning.

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>>150396731
>In 1865 at the end of the American Civil War a substantial number of Southerners left the South; many moved to other parts of the United States, such as the American West, but a few left the country entirely. The most popular country of Southerners emigration was Brazil.
Amerikekes like niggers so much they moved to brazil. It seems the land of cotton is far down south than you hoped.

>>150407370
>America
>civilized
You shits can't even take off your shoes indoors.

>>150407423
>/int/
>in /4xg/
No wonder we are destined to die. You fedoralords are cancer.

>>150407756
I'm meme'ing you idiot, the only things I have from /int/ are screencaps
>fedora lord
What

>>150402792
just force your love inside them anon

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>>150402792
>How can I be loved again?
You just have to make your dreams come true, anon.

>>150401707
>/gsg/
>strategizing an elaborate plan
They're too busy re-enacting their masturbatory power fanaties about the modern byzantine empire, grobgermania or whatever.

Just be aware that we have Stellaris here, which at least tries to be 4X if the Swedes would only let it.

>>150408759
>They're too busy re-enacting their masturbatory power fanaties about the modern byzantine empire, grobgermania or whatever.
You mean shitposting about the Steamgruppe?

>>150401004
Kumo is cute.

>>150409413
Then go to my thread on /a/ and make it not ded ;_;

>>150398886
It's pretty shitty, but I had this pre-ordered the instant it was announced so I guess it doesn't really affect me

>>150399117
what? of course you can defend it from a caricature angle. its literally a caricature. caricatures of teddy show him as a fat fuck, for example.

>>150409681
It still looks like shit though. Montezuma and Pedro look like fucking monkeys. Civ IV looked better than this. Consider that.

>>150409816
>the br looks like a monkey
mission accomplished. :^)

its true, they do look...not so great compared to previous civs. but, I dont care. they look 'alright' and ill get used to them. the only real problem ill have is that its going to be really hard to take anyone seriously when they declare war on me.

>>150409447
I can't. I want to talk about games.

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>>150410129
>they look 'alright'
You have pretty low standards lad

>>150410129
Yeah but you can do that for any problem with a game. "It's not that shit". Well sure, depending on how you define 'unacceptably shit', but I'd unironically prefer portraits from a game from 10 years ago to this, on a graphical level. Just, imagine that.

>>150410270
She looks like a Borgia.

>>150410284
thats alright. im perfectly fine with the leader portraits being the only real issue with the game, compared to something like civ 5 where the launch was total shit and the game was garbage for a really really long time, just so they could add in shit from previous games as dlc.
>>150410270
not really, its just part of the artstyle they're going for (im fine with a caricature artstyle) and im not someone that cares about 'immersion' so im not going to get triggered when someone doesnt look realistic.

>>150409816
>>150399117
It's more caricatured than Civ 4, I think it's funny. I can see someone not liking it if they only cared about waifus.

>>150410270
>We want big personalities.
>Remove Poops in favor of diversity.
>Joan of Arc is right fucking there.

>>150410996
>I can see someone not liking it if they only cared about waifus
>le waifus
I preferred both Qin and Teddy from the game. They could remove all waifus from the game and I'd still like it better. Hell the only waifu I really liked in Civ IV was Catherine, all the other girls ranked below male leaders on how much I liked them.

>>150411120
They couldn't have her and her beautiful teenage tits in the game.

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Intredasting.

>>150411120
>>We want big personalities.
>>Remove Poops in favor of diversity.
You can't justify this except for them trying to have new leaders

>>150411353
>qin and teddy from the game
Do you mean Civ VI? Qin was in Civ4 but this is Teddy's first appearance as far as I can tell.

I can agree with you about the Civ IV waifus being poor, but it's no secret that Civ V fans were more concerned about tits than strategy, as it seems to be them mostly making a stink about the new style.

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>>150411624
>>150411120
>Poops
>Big personality

>>150330325
Does all mods on the civ 5 pastebin work with bnw ?

>>150411868
Like hell it's them, I like CiV's artstyle for realism while I liked Civ IV for being cutesy. Civ VI is just garbage.

In Memellaris can I finally expand or will I end up in more "modified airplanes fighting against antimatter-based spaceships" situations?

>>150411617
thunderdome game?

>>150412259
I'm sure they're all for BNW

>>150412286
you either like it or dislike it. thats your decision. civ 4 has a 'cute' bobblehead artstyle, civ 5 has a realistic one, and civ 6 has a caricature artstyle. different styles for different people.

>>150412286
I'd hardly call Civ IV cutesy, caricatured, but not cutesy.

Also I don't think it could be called garbage though, that's a massive over exaggeration.

>>150413238
>but not cutesy
I find Qin and Pericles pretty cute, especially their exaggerated actions and greetings. Asoka is pretty funny too. Also Augustus's AVE was sexy.

>>150413134
And I will speak my mind on my opinion as I please.

>>150413404
you'll still buy the game, and you'll still play it and enjoy it.

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>>150413540
Sid, please

>>150412621
Was a giant YNAEMP attempt. Rerolled for a semblance of a decent start a few times but it was just a waste of time. Some locations, like England and Scandinavia, always seem to get shafted for resources.

>>150414025
Did you have the historical resources on?

>>150412118
Are you kidding?
We have a phenomenon called the Napoleon complex BECAUSE of Napoleon.
This queen is some literal who and just happens to have a vagina to fill a quota.
I'd say the 2nd out of 2 men in the history of the world to conquer the civilized world deserves a spot.
But I'm all for more animated titties so I want Joan of Arc instead of whoever that is.

>>150414690
Also I wish Firaxis artists and animators didn't suck balls.
The Ramkhamhaeng portrait looked like some golden warlord and the 3D model was an anorexic chemo patient. And let's not forget Ramses noodle arms.

>Conquering aliens and modifying them for conformity.

Pretty spooky shit.

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>tfw tomorrow
It will be about religion in Civilization IV, so maybe that would be important to watch.

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>declare war on some upstart little shits in civ5
>city state allies come to help me
>mfw one of them captures the enemy capital with an AA gun

>>150414690
I was trying to say that Louis XIV had a bigger personality than both Napoleon and Catherine de Medici, the dude did the whole taking on all of Europe thing and won diplomatically.

>>150416753
I would like joan of arc as france's leader but im prett sure firaxis is full of nu males , so they try to push to female leaders all the time

Am i mad ? Nope

But i really want them to atleast put revelant female leaders, that ugly bitch is not that revelant while joan is a legend

>>150417047
>joan is a legend
Bitch she's more than that.
Jeanne is a national hero murdered by the britbong. She's a constantly reminder of why we hate the British. And the turncoats.

>>150417047
joan of arc wasn't a leader of france, though???

>>150417269
Neither was Catherine.

>>150417269
Ghandhi, Hannibal, etc weren't either

>>150417047
Also napoleon was pretty ok too tbqh, im pretty sure when someone ask you who is the best/the first comes to your mind as a french leader its napoleon

Also i really like the roosevelt decision, FUCKING INDIANS AND FEMINAZIS ON SUCIDE WATCH, ROOSEVELT WILL BRING THE WHITE MALE IN HIS RIGHTEROUS PLACE

>>150417368
>im pretty sure when someone ask you who is the best/the first comes to your mind as a french leader its napoleon
No, it's Sarkozy. That guy had the most epic lines.
>"Casses-toi pov' con"
>"Per-permet-moi d'te dire, Per-Per-Per-Tchu-Tchu-Tché."

>>150417334
>For a time, she ruled France as its regent.
>>150417348
thats true, but hannibal isnt in civ 6, and ghandhi is regarded as the 'father of india.' joan of arc isnt.

>>150417640
And regents are legit leaders. Hu-uh.

What are the visitation hours in your asylum?

>>150409816

Montezuma looks like he has brown hairs, despite the fact that the indios have very black hairs.

Seriously, the guy looks like a punk who dressed up for a strip tease.

>>150417640
>regent
>ruler
No.

>>150417724
>a person appointed to administer a state because the monarch is a minor, is absent or is incapacitated
thats a lot more leader than what joan of arc ever did. she was a martyr, that was it.

>>150417965
>joan of arc
>led the French Army
>not a leader

>that medicis chick
>for a very limited time, acted as a trainee for six months
>fit to be a leader
Firaxis, please. You're only embarassing yourself.

>>150417965
Joan of Arc literally gave the throne to Charles to the point where the reason the English tried to find a theological basis to her being a demon was because they wanted to prove Charles wasn't a divinely chosen leader but someone who sold his soul to a witch aka a servant of Satan.

>>150417965
Gandhi never was a leader and yet was picked by the devs to bring nuclear apocalypse.

>>150417047
>Not relevant

The religious wars were some of the bloodiest and most brutal conflicts in France's pre-revolution history and Catherine de Medici was one of the most ruthless and important figures in steering the state in the direction that created the Edict of Nantes.

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>>150418501
It's a shame they make her act so flirtatious instead of ruthless, cold, with a depressing sacked city background (think Askia's burning castle/mosque thing)

>start game with the shoshone
>find like a fucking billion ancient ruins
>in the lead with techs in the ancient era for the first time with 4 social policies by like turn 30
best civ

One of my blobbier neighbour is about to meet the scourge. I hope he become less blobby in process.

>>150415421
This is 8pm GMT (God's time), right?

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>>150411617
>AI starts with 2 pop, 3 warriors and a worker

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>>150417047
Here is you Joan d'Arc

>>150423551
>you can now BUY GPs
Heaven will fall.

>>150418721
>pic
Brutal.

>>150423551
>GPs only have their instant use ability
This was expected I guess, with shit like districts it would be too much to plant them

what's the name of the civ 5 mod that removes movement animations from AI units?

>play classic red alert against my friend
>fair strategy, units show what they are good against, no memorization involved
>play red alert 2
>nothing is shown or explained
>invest in 10 helicopters and send them to deal with 3 tanks
>all get shot down. can only assume they are weak to that specific type of tank
GG

>mfw I always pick Japanese in every game
>Japanese always have shitty infantry but great navy
>I almost never use boats, whatever the game is

>>150427637
>play Red Alert 3
>all units have a special ability
>terror drones are pretty OP against vehicle, can even stop the Shogun Executioner

>Firaxis makes sweeping changes to all game mechanics, addresses a ton of problems that plagued Civilization V and prevent the jewry system that caused all Civ IV mechanics to be stripped out and repackaged as DLC

>Waaah all the leaders look like lively Pixar characters instead of looking like clay abominations
>Waaah the terrain looks like a mobile game and not like my ultra realistic 'nam simulation I expected from a game where one tile is dozens of square km
>Waaah they chose leaders for the civs I personally disapprove off because of half-assed, ultra-flexible standards. They didn't even choose my personal favorite national hero despite him appearing in all five previous games!

Jesus christ, grow up. If the only complaints you have about this game is that the graphics aren't your kind of graphics and they didn't pick your QT to be a leader, those aren't complaints

>>150428237
The sentiment is mostly positive you dumbass but that doesn't invalidate complaints about the artstyle
a 9.5/10 game still has room to be criticized for the missing 0.5, that's literally how it works.

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>>150330325
Why do all the Civ6 characters look so shitty?

>>150427758
>Japanese have shitty infantry
>...in every game
>>>>>>>>>
They have one of the best infantry in AoE2 that takes apart other special infantry at that.

>>150428708
Best infantry?
In AoE2?
Even the proto-frogs have better infantry with the champions.

>>150428237
>Waaah they chose leaders for the civs I personally disapprove off because of half-assed, ultra-flexible standards
You're getting mad right now because people don't agree with your personal standards for what can and cannot be criticized
Grow the fuck up

>>150428859
What the fuck are you on about? Samurai are worse than Champions?

>>150428929
Samurais only get bonus damage against other castle units, right?
But since they're melee, any melee infantry like the English Longbowmen or the Chinese Chu Ko Nu rape them.

>>150429059
>Samurais only get bonus damage against other castle units, right?
They also have 25% faster attack speed and obliterate most other dangerous infantry. Archers literally counter ALL infantry they unironically get attack bonuses towards half of them along with range bonuses, the reason the Huscarl is so fucking dangerous is because it's an infantry unit that specifically counters anti-infantry units.

>>150428237
We all know that on relase Civ VI will be half-done, and will only be a proper game after 3 DLC's that are priced €59.99 each.

And that is the best case scenario. Seeing as a fiasco such as Beyond Earth exists, maybe that's too optimistic. It's not exaggerating to say that Firaxis is going down the Acitivision-Blizzard route, but let's hope I'm wrong.

>>150429262
They're still terrible in Rise of Nations. And Empire Earth.

>>150429459
Well from what we've seen and have been told (ye I know that's not a lot but devs usually don't outright lie unless they want suicide), it's not terrible.

>>150429493
Because they're a meme civilization anyway that survived because of hyperdefensible terrain.

>>150428536
>the sentiment is mostly positive
I've been here in doom and gloom general for months now and I know for sure that hasn't been the case since the first leader was revealed.

>>150428929
>so mad he replied twice

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>>150429598
>so mad he replied twice
>implying the first poster is me
Proof?
>I know for sure that hasn't been the case since the first leader was revealed.
Maybe because quite a few people think they look like shit? We are allowed to dislike an artstyle you know, and no they're not all 'CiV babbies' - I liked Civ IV's leaders the best.

>>150429262
>>150429587
Joke aside, I just tried the samurai against the teutonic knights.
Unless I misunderstood them, teutonic knights are basically melee rape machine.

The result is a tie. Whoever attacks first wins.

>>150429587
>Well from what we've seen and have been told (ye I know that's not a lot but devs usually don't outright lie unless they want suicide), it's not terrible.
Here's hoping you're right. But I'll be keeping my money until at least a few weeks after the game is released, maybe until the first discount comes around. After disappointments like Diablo 3 and Beyond Earth, I just can't trust developers anymore.

>>150430006
Teutonic Knights are more expensive. Put up equal-for-gold cost and Samurai rape.

>>150430089
You shouldn't preorder to begin with, it's a stupid concept. You're paying for a product before you get it.

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>>150430245
Yeah, but they're fucking cool. They remind me of the characters in Dark Souls.

>>150430351
Who are cool, Teutonic Knights? Fight me online and I'll show you why they're not cool. I'll be using an army of Mongol S. Onagers and Mangudai.

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>>150430450
Bitch fight me at Stronghold and I'll show you why knights are cool.

I'll fuck you up m8, I'll put you in the fucking ground like the unburied bitch you are.

>>150429847
I'll admit that I have no proof and am probably wrong about you being the same, but your replies looked similar.

It's stupid to complain about an art style though, and it's become the main judgement on the game, people thinking that it makes the game simpler even though it seems to be anything but.

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>>150430712
pls no

>>150430781
Nobody has called the game dumbed down for like two or three weeks though. All we've had really are complaints about the artstyle of leaders, leader and civilization choices (seriously kongo instead of persia? and scythians?), and the mobile game aesthetic. I'll be honest, the reason I detest the aesthetic isn't so much the way it looks so much as how much fucking space it tends to take up.

>>150430818
Too late, kiddo. Even as we speak, I'm contacting my network of archers to pin you to the wall while my swordsmen are arriving.

>>150431038
Whatever, should i just regen a map in Civ4 if I don't have a plains hill close by?

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>>150431125
bls compromise before I break out the CKN scorpion spam bitch

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I may have gone too far in a few places.

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>>150431348
No you deal with it and watch your score slowly fall behind
OR you could have an ungodly start like me and end up like this with the help of some exploit-y things resulting from shit AI.

>>150431404
There are no Chu Ko Nu in Stronghold.
I wish they made a Japanese version of this game already.

>>150431457

No such thing as going too far on International projects, bonuses you don't let your opponents have is bonuses you have over them

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>>150431651
Are you a nip
pls stop raping me

>>150431839
You'll get yourself banned if you keep on with these pictures, mate.

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>>150432029
How though none of these are R18

>>150432135
It's avatarfagging.

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>>150432593
eh.

>>150432135
Off-topic, avatarfagging, lewd.

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was considering buying Stellaris earlier today actually, how is it?

>>150432803
Broken

Civ IV leader traits, 3rd/4th unique components, and E&D are all wonderful and balanced mods everyone should use, but holy god damn, add them together and Carthage is fucking absurd. Everything they can do makes another thing they have better.
It's turn 40, albeit on quick, and I've got three capitals with no loses and minimal effort.

>>150432803
Waitfor a sale.

>>150432927
>>150433013

ill take your word for it. looks interesting but id rather pay for a somewhat polished game

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>future worlds wonders
This stuff is a little ridiculous. I still love the mod though. The one thing I always dislike about civ is it doesn't go beyond near future, Call to Power was much better in that regard as was it's tile improvement system.

Fuck I miss establishing space cities in Call to Power now.

been looking for a good in-depth space strategy game, anyone mind throwing a suggestion my way?

>>150433482
Distant Worlds.
Sins of Solar Empire : Rebellion.

>page 10

>>150438009
We are boring.

>>150440897
At least we don't circlejerk over bad games.

>>150429459
>>150430089
funny enough
you know why civ 6 will be great on launch?
because they have two separate teams. theres 1 team that made vanilla civ 5, and beyond earth. then theres the second team that made gods and kings and brave new world. the second team is the one thats making civ 6. or at least, leading development. ed beach is the lead designer and he was the lead designer for the expansion packs.

>>150442657
The fact that it's not being made by the team that made BE is my only hope. Let's wait and see how it turns out.

>>150441952
Because there are no bad RTS.

>>150443275
>AoE III
>EE III
>'not bad'
Opinion discarded

>>150443335
Supcom 2, Empire Earth 3 and AoE 3 are not bad.
They're shitty. That's different.

>>150443335
well, aoe 3 isnt really even that 'bad' if you look at it in a vacuum. its a pretty shit game when you compare it to other aoe games, yea, as well as many other rts games, but it isnt like its some buggy, crappy mess. it just has some design flaws. but they did do some pretty nifty things, like cannons, the range-melee system, broadsides, and the card system was a cool idea, poorly executed.

havent played ee3 though, dont really plan on it.

>>150444323
It's a 6/10 at best an a fucking insult to the AoE series.

>>150441952
Plenty of circlejerking about Civ IV

>>150445016
>Civ IV
>bad
t. EE3 fan

>>150442657
Also, Ed Beach is an extremely accomplished and well regarded game designer when it comes to board games. He basically made what are considered some of the definitive political-historical war games covering the 16th century

>“The number one thing to know is that Civilization VI is not built on the previous engine. All of the gameplay systems have been entirely rewritten and re-architected. We’ve specifically set it up to be very modifiable. And we’ve rewritten the A.I. from the ground up, learning all the lessons that we had from Civilization V, so we know how best to solve some of these problems in military combat and so forth.” - Ed Beach

>>150445650
About fucking time