/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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CLANG

REMINDER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTCScjoPymA

MATH

3rd for /egg/heim and the rather large update that will come the next time I post (probably this or next tuesday). I am no longer having to work double shifts 5 days a week so I can finally devote time to /egg/heim again. Sorry again for the delay, thank you all for bearing with me. Chuck any ideas, suggestions, or requests into the steam group for me to check out.

Next Sunday we should schedule some multiplayer or something

>>150077086
Have you seen the update Nick has made on the resources?

>>150077162
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


let him be happy for a bit longer

>>150077086
https://files.catbox.moe/rrl8t0.7z
Have all this shit. Included is some mostly finished DORF stuff. I won't be playing anymore now that Nick has decided to keep fucking up his game.

>>150077162
No what happened?

>>150077178
Oops.
My bad, sorry...


>>150077203
Well... wood, metal, scrap, oil and crystal have been unified under a single resource called material.
Some anon said that you couldn't place 6-way connectors on turrets, but i'm on devtest and i can, so i'll just guess that he only needs to git gud.

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>>150077203
You poor soul. You're so happy. So innocent.

RIP.


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>>150077278
I... What? What the fuck? Is this temporary or permanent?? Optional at least? But, I had those cool specific resource zones set up...

It's not THAT big of a deal for me but shiiiiit. What the hell nick? I imagine it was "too complicated" for noobs?

>>150077402
I think the coding and balancing was "too complicated" for nick.

>>150077402
He never really explained why IIRC.
Just had a massive autism fit.

>>150077402
no he was too lazy to balance it

expect more changes like this in the future

for your own sanity do not visit the ftd forums

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lewd

>>150077402
Permanent. Not optional. Nick outright refused implementing any moddable resources.
It isn't that big of a deal, but this shit has been going on for a while, and Nick has thrown one hell of a spoiled brat hissy fit this time. It'll definitely only get worse if Nick doesn't recover. FTD is dead.

>>150077445
He gave like 10 mutually contradicting, extremely worthless reasons that mostly just pointed towards him being a lazy fuck.

>>150077402
> But, I had those cool specific resource zones set up...
I had a finished structure and two started fortresses for those zones
Nick went full autist explaining things, and got angry to the point of even threatening to stop development in the game

>>150077435
>>150077445
>>150077483
Ah. Well I'll continue on making /egg/heim I guess until it no longer continues to be fun for me. One resource isn't as big a deal for me.

Fuck though I'll admit I'm a little salty as that allowed things to be comfy and shit.

>>150077518
>>150077525
Ah what the fucking shit dude.

He was doing fine until he started dumbing things down. I wish more devs could be like Toady and just make what they want and not give a damn. Fuck.

Fuck.

>>150077553
Get ready for only more "simplifying" and "removing UI clutter".

Nick did just make what he wants and not give a damn about anyone's complaints. That's the problem.

>>150077621
The only """"""good""""" thing we've had recently are 3m slopes and radar guided misiles

>>150077676
I mean without being lazy.

From what I read he had all these complex ideas that the forumites utterly rejected because they are normies. He's likely pissed about that and pissed that his game isn't selling more but man throwing a fit isnt the way to go about it.

>>150077676
>removing ui clutter
that ugly shit needs an overhaul

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>>150078264
>skinwalkers in space
spoopy

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Where are my Nuts and Bros at?

>>150079093
Truly the dedest /egg/

Anyone been to one of those male only saunas?

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Hey Remanon, when a damage system gets implimented will angling your armor still matter? Angle still increases your effective thickness so it would make sense if more angle = more damage reduction

>>150079274
No, but I went to a female only sauna.

>>150078526

...for what purpose?

I mean, seriously, there needs to be an alternative explanation for this erroneous and unusual behaviour, dictated other than the norm by some strange and unseemly impules, the nature of which I desire to know so I can divine the depths of either the genius or madness of such an act.

>>150079537
wouldn't an angle also kind of reflect bullets? Like make them slide off?

>>150079932
yes

>>150079932

"In the future...the battle will be won not by range or power - it will be won by men with protractors stabbing other men with protractors...long before the tank has even reached the enemy's sights."

~Winston Churchill

>>150079915
I was bored so I decided to dick around.

>>150079680
What are you? A faggot?

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This is fun
https://a.uguu.se/IyWb6peI3sef_1.webm
I'm gonna have to make a bigger plane and see if I can damage it enough to bring it down without explosive cannonballs

>>150081045
No.

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>spend two hours re-jigging my factory to use all of the advanced ore refining methods in Angel's

>these two facilities basically output the same amount of ore

>one of them has two additional steps and consumes huge amounts of sulfuric acid and water and generates a plethora of retarded byproducts

Overall not worth it lads

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/slowerlight.php#id--Go_Fast--Bussard_Ramjet
>If your starship is moving fast enough, the widely scattered hydrogen atoms will hit your hull like cosmic rays, and damage both the ship and the crew. One can theoretically use magnetic or electrostatic fields to sweep the hydrogen atoms out of the way so the ship doesn't hit them.

>But wait a minute. Hydrogen is propellant, and could also be fusion fuel. Instead of sweeping it away, how about gathering it?

>And if you are gathering your propellant instead of carrying it along with you, your mass ratio becomes infinity. This means you could theoretically accelerate forever.

Why aren't space games this interesting? Its always the generic magic engines

>>150084205
>Why aren't space games this interesting? Its always the generic magic engines
In Sword of the stars 2 you can equip Hiver ships with those ramjets so they can fly further than usual, but it's not an /egg/game

>>150084205
true-to-physics space voxel game when

scrumble ships when

>>150084205
There is a book called Tau zero about a ship like that. It breaks and can't stop :(

>>150085547
team rocket's blasting off again

>>150086398
What?

>>150081487
https://a.uguu.se/MPYdltCjYKnp_3.webm
>cannonball remove the elevator
>another cannonball hits it and gets stuck in front of the tail fin
>plane pitches up, stalls and crashes
Now that was a lucky as fuck shot

>>150072035
Alright try this one out:
>ffmpeg -i %input file% -c:v libvpx -b:v 1068K -an %output%.webm -threads 0
Or
>-c:v libvpx -minrate 1M -maxrate 1M -an
-crf will fuck your shit up, you can either variable bitrate or constant bitrate

If all else fails, you can get webm for retards shell or get handbrake and encode an .mkv in VP8 then you put it in your ffmpeg/bin and do
>ffmpeg -i input.mkv -vcodec copy (optional -an) output.webm
Handbrake is quite a bit faster than old ffmpeg but more limited (ffmpeg can do ANYTHING if you ask it nicely)

>>150081829
EUROPA
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O
P
A

Is there no car-mounted flamethrower in Factorio? No flamer tank either? Why?

>>150079274
>>150079680
>having sex segregated saunas
It amazes me how americans are even able to reproduce considering how fucking prude they are

>>150091058
literally a mod already

>>150089808
M A R S
A
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S

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>>150089808
>EUROPA

I STILL MISS IT

>>150084205
>Why aren't space games this interesting? Its always the generic magic engines
Yeah it bugs me how in spengies only hydrogen thrusters use any fuel besides "electricity". Ion engines IRL usually use xenon for propulsion, and atmospheric thrusters would need jet fuel of some description and also have a clear air intake.

>>150079537
Remanon here, Yes and normalization, that bit of code is ready, just been working on how damage is applyed to modules atm.

>>150092171
/egg/ robot wars server when. Just build a spess station with lots of resources and a spectator arena.

>>150091776
>the only download link requires you to have "sufficient membership" aka buying the game
Jesus, that's some advanced cancer

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>>150084205
I've been reading this site a lot lately, and it's fucking mind-boggling how many engineering challenges you have to overcome to send a tin can with some guys inside to space.
But all we get is KEEN.

>>150092870
>and it's fucking mind-boggling how many engineering challenges you have to overcome to send a tin can with some guys inside to space.
Sending a tin can into space is fairly straightforward, but for some reason we have erroneously assume human life has any value. So keeping the tin can's occupants alive and returning them safely becomes a real challenge.

Absolute madman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0wfkpBImKw

>>150093815
> but for some reason we have erroneously assume human life has any value. So keeping the tin can's occupants alive and returning them safely becomes a real challenge.
Well, if you spend several millions training them, you'd want them to return alive so you don't have to spend those millions again
Also, you can't buy exp.

Daily reminder that bitching about turrets in REM is bitching that the mechanic hasn't rotated your tires yet when he's still building the engine on a stand outside the car.

>>150095564
>the mechanic hasn't rotated your tires yet when he's still building the engine on a stand outside the car.
Then it's a shitty mecanic, because i ordered a plane, not a car

>>150079537
REManon has repeatedly stated there WILL be detailed terminal ballistics simulation with hardcore penetration and damage calculations. I don't know why I have to keep repeating this. It's why I am so God damned hype for REM.

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>>150096974
>hardcore penetration

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>>150094852
The solution is simple, use skeletons instead of humans

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/egg/torio when?

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>>150093815
>but for some reason we have erroneously assume human life has any value

Does someone have a band aid? I just cut myself on this anon's edge.

>>150103362
Very good meme, anonymous! I'd give you a like if I could!

>>150103362
Just praise to CLANG and he'll fix you

Just don't pray to Keen, for we know how it fixes things

>>150100301

Never

moot agreed, don't bother him about it

>>150104064
>moot
Literally who

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The age of the flamethrowers is coming.

>>150094852
Control it from ground control. Fill it up with convicted murderers. Send said murderers to mars. Hey, it worked for strayacunt, mars is only slightly more inhospitable.

>>150099907
Foolproof. Now how do we reanimate skeletons?

>>150105010
>>150099907
But, anons, we already send skeletons

>>150105010
>Control it from ground control.
Then there's no need for people inside the tin can unless you want to colonize shit.
>marstralia
and start starcraft IRL?

>>150103362

He's an idiot, but he found a truffle here.

0-risk space travel is the whole reason we aren't on Venus or Mars right now. We insist on an incredibly ludicrous safety margin in our space exploration.

Consider it like "searching for the new world" but you are not permitted to leave visual contact with the shore or another ship.

>>150105814
>Then there's no need for people inside the tin can unless you want to colonize shit.
Well you can test life support systems on death row murderers. Hell if I was on death row death by space clang sounds like a lot more fun than death by lethal injection.

>and start starcraft IRL?
Yeah why not. Just make sure to nuke them from orbit when they start building siege tanks and power armors.

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>>150105350
Deep

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Did you know?

>>150106512
I'mma tell you a secret

My body has more bones than the average human I have an extra vertebrae

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>>150106512

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>>150106512

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>>150106954
Want another bone in your body?

>>150107284
As long as it doesn't give me a stiff neck like the extra one does...

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>>150107538
You'll get a stiff something...

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What do. I have 1 (one) missile turret and that's it. Single rocket hit will blow my ship to bits.

>>150108581
right click > uninstall

spengies is shit

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>>150108581
Start clanging violently.

>>150108581
>not building your way up to a Codex Astartes worthy ramship and obliterating whatever's in your way with sheer mass and velocity

>>150109278
>bullet hose
Nice, how do I build one.

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>>150108168
>/egg/ERP

>>150109457
Now why would I want to do that. Obviously I want the argent for myself, as intact as possible.

I had a captured military escort on a different server, I RC'd that puppy into a mining hauler. There were no survivors. Not one stinkin' SPRT block.

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>>150108168
I knew i'd get that aswer when i was writing that

>pic unrelated

>>150092664
REManon reporting from bed.

There is a reason we abandoned all hope for all games and just started our own. We love robot wars and tried to do our own. Spengies can't do robot wars multi-player, we tried exhaustively. The only effective weapons are flippers and piston clang. You also have to make absolutely sure everyone is not using gyros, thrusters, cockpits of weapons like turrets.

For some reason pubbies really like using guns in robot wars, I dunno.

Its alright with two to four non retarded people on voice comms with one definite leader and a good server, but good luck with that.

>>150112529
REM robot wars when

Also REM is looking promising, hope you keep up the good work!

>>150112529
Then why the fuck not just make a Robot Wars game?

>>150112529
You can have different categories for drones to fight. Guns, pistons, drills, whatever. Grinderbot duels can be fun, focus of manueverability to grind opponent's grinder before it grinds yours.

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>remove almost the entire left wing
>motherfucker doesn't give a fuck and just keeps flying
I guess giving it a double deck fuselage made of lift surfaces was a bad idea

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>>150109457
Space swords are the weapon of a true gentleman.

>>150114960
Sord mod? The prophecy was fulfilled!

>>150114960
>not a chainsword
Better off putting 4 grinders on a super fast rotor tbqh fampai

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>2077

>not using an energy sword

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>>150115253
Was it really that hard?

>>150115713
one day

>>150115713
there's a penis joke in here somewhere

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>>150115253
That ship is vanilla, except for blast door mod that I used to make the edge look (but a flat sword still works) and codecat big gyros (almost vanilla strength, 30 vs 27 gyros in 3x3x3, but even this isn't needed since you can just replace them all).
After the inertial dampener update I had to revisit it, I made a vanilla version but all those thrusters were buttugly and the extra reactors needed made it too long for my liking, so I added keen gyro upgrade module, 4 hyperion reactors and imhotep thrusters.
The only downside is that the thrusters still have 10x inertial dampening, so I have to keep the dampeners turned off if I want to have fun.
Gray blocks are the blocks that were destroyed in battle or somehow replaced.

It uses a lot of power.
Pic is both the after update versions, with vanilla thrusters and the imhotep.

>>150115992
I was looking for loss honestly.

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>>150113927
>give it a wooden fuselage
>one hit to the tail or a wing kills it
Now it's too easy god damn
https://a.uguu.se/60eK4QugnXWM_6.webm
sorry for not shutting up about this

So what exactly do you stand to gain from bringing up Nick in every thread? I think we've all heard enough about his autism.

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remember to love CLANG everyday.

>>150118626
nick pls go

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>>150113771
Like I said, exhaustive testing. What cannot be beaten by merely ramming into it harder can be bested by piston clang. There's no engineering once you've figured out how the system works. Sterik did manage to pull some pretty autistic shit, though.

>>150118872
I'm not nick. I'm waiting for an answer though.

>>150116125
Oh, I thought it was that shield mod that some anon weaponized into a sword.
Anyone got those gifs?

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>>150119016
And the arena we ended up using, why not.

>>150118626
>>150119061
Why did YOU have to bring it up Nick? We could have avoided the topic, we don't want to here about your shitty stubborn decisions.

>>150118835
What are those wings from? And how do they compare to the other wing mod with rounded edges? I'd like something better.

>>150118835
>actually trying to use collective pitch in spengies
MADMAN
A
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>>150119363
Within the first four posts someone mentioned the resource overhaul. So you gonna answer the question or just fling shit?

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>>150119231
I like the overhead stripper cages

>>150119864
The resource overhaul was mentioned because Dr.Eggman didn't know about it as he hadn't been on /egg/ for some time

>>150120170
So you gonna answer the question?

>>150118835
God damn, does it work? I'd love to see if you can make something fly with no gyros.

>>150120246
>Get the answer to the question
>Still want to get the answer
Do you have lag or something?

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>>150120086
It was a three stage vertical lifter/flipper. Here's the only surviving image of a larger prototype.

>>150120527
Old times...

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>>150120683
Shouldn't you be coding damage/penetration?

>>150120446
So what exactly do you stand to gain from bringing up Nick in every thread?

>>150120246
fuck off nick

>>150119864
That instance was justified and inevitable, Dr Eggman put a fuckton of effort into eggheim and had to get the bad news. After that mention nobody talked about the guy until you brought him up for some fuck-off reason.
We're not happy that Nick is the latest addition to our list of shitpost topics, but if something new happens to one of our beloved games we're going to discuss it, that's what this general is fucking for. What we gain from shitposting and insulting him is nothing. What we gain from discussing his changes and our opinions of them is giving some purpose to this thread.

>>150120527
What do you mean by three stage? Three different sets of rotors that activate it?

>>150120939
Read >>150120170

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>>150121005
Yep, three different axis that press against each other. A bit like this.

>>150120897
Maybe... What I'm not allowed to take a break here and there?

>>150120943
I wish I was nick

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>>150118835
Have you tried shit like this?

>people whining about people posting
You do realise this thread quite often 404s?

I will bitch about whoever I want as long as it's tangentially related

So fuck you

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>>150121158
NOt unless you have a bowl of icecream

>>150121153
That's fucking awesome, but I would expect a lot of forces to be moving in ways the rotors didnt' want, especially if you move it fast, and cause some CLANG. This was made long before the recent rotor stability fixes right? Did it work reliably without breaking?

>>150121250
Are those engines meant to be upside down? Or am I missing something?
If you guys can get a helicopter to work with that whole swashplate kinda setup, I'd love to try and script it to fly automatically.

>>150121567
Reliably enough, and it was springy enough to bounce me off when I ran into it with a rambot. More often than not it was the drive train that snapped in half.

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>>150120442
right now I'm using gyros to counteract the turn, since I don't have a tail rotor and thrusters won't work that way I think.
By the way this won't work since gyros are shit at balancing constant loads.
It lifts from the ground tho, another great victory for clang.
Blades can't be longer than 12 blocks, adding a fifth 3x1 panel makes the whole thing explode.


>>150119363
they aren't wings, they're just armor panels.
Thrust is generated using the aerodynamics mod (aerodynamics and deadly reentry or something)

>>150121567
They are ment to be vector thusters
You face them in the direction you want and use the arrows to steer the whole thing left or right, and so do the vectoring.
You could use it to control the rotor, but only in 1 axis.

>>150121250
can I actually attach rotor heads to suspension or is just for look?
By the way we fucking lack pistons with regulable force and that won't fucking wobble everywhere.

>>150121448
>shitposting to keep a thread alive is acceptable
Look at /kspg/. Stop emulating behaviors we already know end in disaster.

>>150122598
listen here you little shit, this thread has been going for years as is and it hasn't turned into /kspg/, how about you fuck off

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Who /ork/ here?
added pistons for maximum clang while penetrating other ships

>>150123681
I've been here since /cg/ you fucking mong.

>>150123887
then you should know how much people like to bitch about devs

gas marek
gas freejam
ect
ect

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>>150123884
Needs moh dakka

>>150122109
In creative you can at least, and the external pistons are to keep everything steady, will roll like hell if not.

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>>150123884
needs moar spiky bitz

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>>150124346
>this ship in dual universe with all /egg/ aboard doing jazz hands and dominating everything
I cant fucking wait.

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>>150123884

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!

>>150124346
What game is that?

>>150124110
There's a level of irony found in those that just isn't present right now. People are just like fuck nick he's a bastard his game is garbage when up until recently it was the shit.

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>>150125392
Roblox please dont bully

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>>150125670

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>>150125670
>roblox

fuuck that game used to be fun

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>>150125670
bro thats advanced autism you got there

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>tfw algodoo finally joins /ded/

>use some 1x2 armor slopes as decoration
>they deform out of place to "blend" with armor and look like shit
>then nanites go and infidently try to bend them back into place
is there any way to disable the stupid blending behavior of these things

>>150126549
there are two types of slopes. the ones that are named "smooth" cause the blending

use the ones that aren't called smooth

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how much ork/10?

>>150127056
NOT ENOUGH SPIKES ON LEGS/10
the main body looks pretty gud tho

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>>150075982

The default game generated gears are pretty trash.
Here's a couple of alternate types

Circle gears (more geoms, smoother/stronger movement)
http://www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=114110


and spur gears - still a single geom but closer fitting
http://www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=89328

>>150127056
eldritch abomination/10
does it walk?

Guys, just bought from the depths because sale. And im wondering if there's a go to starter guide for the game that any of you could redirect me to? ;_;

>>150126395
w-what game is this?

>>150127398
About 90% of the fun of ftd is fucking with it and learning how to use it. Once you learn, its pretty boring and laggy.

>>150127398
>im wondering if there's a go to starter guide for the game that any of you could redirect me to?
There's an ingame tutorial in the main menu

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I can't seem to be able to make it so that it won't spin without gyros, center of mass is too high and too backwards, it's right below the propeller so it's hard to delete the torque from the tail rotor.
It is also a pain to actually set the pistons each time.
And my propeller just clanged (because of ground impact, otherwise is surprisingly stable).

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>>150127398
Algodoo

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>>150127280
I am fairly certain it could walk. Not sure how long the feet would last.

Don't make me want to reinstall spengies to try.

>>150127596
It'd be great if he'd finish the game already so we can actually build a good balanced campaign around it that makes building reasonable, balanced vessels a good idea. It's all cheese right now. Actual sensors are in the dev build now though instead of omnipotence for everything. ECM when?

>>150127662
Thanks man

>>150127596
Alright, ill try.

>>150127734
Thanks man

>>150127732
Why are you using all those pistons and shit?

Each one of those separate bodies adds an extra thing dragging on the ship.

>>150127992
Collective pitch control.

>>150127732
Use easyautomation to reset and possibly control the pistons.

>>150126757
thanks bud I'll try

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good underwater exploration game when?

>>150129065
sauce?

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>>150129065
I-it's not like I was planning to sleep anyway.

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>>150129065
s-spooked ;_;

>>150129065
Subnautica? Its early access lacking in content though.

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eggpyrion when

>>150132201
EMPYRION VS SPACE ENGINEERS GO

>>150132201
When actual combat is added. When anything to do with engineering is added. At least spengies has that.

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>>150128104
The plan was using easy automation + control module to bind everything to the wasd qe.
But it seems like it doesn't want to stay still , that would be a start. It's also true that the approach was "throw parts on and see if it lifts", I honestly thought the top part would just explode as soon as I connected it.
My room got too hot now, I guess that's it for today.
Pic is one of the propellers on the plane clanged as the voxels reloaded and the plane fell. Clang doesn't like those pesky voxels.

>>150132443
BOTH ARE SHIT
EVERYBODY LOSES

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>starmade devs are still making starmade, despite it having like, sub 100 players at all times

>>150132650
Wrong.
Clang wins.
Clang always wins.

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>>150129065
2spuk

>>150132950
empyrion doesn't have moving parts, so at least clang isn't present in that area :^)

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>>150132907
REManon here~

*dev
Schema is the only one doing real work on it, and we talk occasionally. He's still pretty confident. Its not really like he can just drop literally thousands of hours of work, especially given his progress on the new systems.

>>150133098
Clang lurks the source code. One day you'll see rolling out an update with "TODAY WE ADD PISTONS AND ROTORS" but what you don't know is that the devs are desperately trying to stop the update process because they didn't make that patch.

SOON

>>150133261
>>150132907
At least he isn't the Scrumbleship dev

>>150133832
Talked with him once too. No idea why the fuck he's so slow, I think he has a dayjob.

And it was then that CLANG came out of space. Who he was, none could tell, but he was of the old native blood and looked like a machine. The engineers knelt when they saw him, yet could not say why. He said he had risen up out of the blackness of twenty-seven centuries, and that he had heard messages from places not on this planet. Into the lands of civilisation came CLANG, swarthy, slender, and sinister, always buying strange instruments of glass and metal and combining them into instruments yet stranger. He spoke much of the sciences – of electricity and psychology –and gave exhibitions of power which sent his spectators away speechless, yet which swelled his fame to exceeding magnitude. Men advised one another to see CLANG, and shuddered. And where CLANG went, rest vanished; for the small hours were rent with the screams of a nightmare.

A part of me wonders if Dual is gonna be the killing blow to other space voxel games, but even with a single shard multiplayer it wouldn't replace starmades aesthetics-em-up niche, it would be more likely to deal the killing blow to spengies and empyrion, depending on the level of content and how well the blaneds run

Avorion is another category of game entirely, it's more like freelancer meets spore so it's probably guaranteed a cemented following

/egg/torio when desu

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>>150134716
triggered

>>150134850
Tell me in detail so i can include a trigger warning next time

Was it the part where i implied Dual isn't going to horribly crash and burn?

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>>150135110
[TRIGGERED]

>>150135204
ha ha spore

its funny because of our collective pile of crushed hopes and dreams

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>>150135204
>spore
>gallatica last season
>starbound
>prometheus
>supremme commander 2
Why I even continue

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>>150077086
Missed you

>>150132569
Would two rotor blades stop you from needing a tail rotor in Spengies? May make things simpler.

>>150140874
if they move the opposite direction with the same speed, yes, they torques will cancel

>>150132201
A few things make me hate that game, I haven't played in awhile so this might have changed

Lack of automation
No mining bits for ships since last I played
No moving parts, conveyors etc.
Everything looks like shit, from textures to effects to lighting
No fucking reload animations holy shit how were those not added already
Early game is way too slow
Way too many different components, crafted pieces etc.

>>150141273
most of that is still in the game but the early game is much better. The devs decided to make all constructors auto-craft so you don't need to craft individual components, just throw materials in and queue items

>>150142049
Thank fucking god

>>150129164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV0pNU9htnw

>>150143861
>tfw deep dark ocean stuff makes you both comfy and afraid at the same time
I have both thalassophobia and thalassophillia.
I think.

>>150083902

the byproducts are the whole point of the refining process. angel's mods were made in response to bob's bukkake of ore that you're only going to use once or twice.

So what multiplayer games does egg play the most? Do people usually use the servers in the op?

>>150146762
>/egg/
>multiplayer
surely you jest
we're fugged when it comes to multiplayer
also, REEEEEEEEEE 4chan's servers are shitting themselves

>>150146992
Even with games like avorion and Space Engineers? I havent followed the development for those games and am not particular hard to please when it comes to game play, but I would expect at least a few people to be playing them. Does noone play them in this thread?

>>150147171
space engineers is nowhere near stable enough to run a decent long term server for it

>>150147171
>spengies
>multiplayer
"no"
Physics are serverside, and keen cannot into netcode.

Avorion is just a demo right now, full game is out in aug IIRC, I imagine we might get some serbs when it's out.

LET ME POST YOU FLUFFY HAIRED NIP BASTARD

>>150147367
>>150147204
Oh alright thanks anons; I'll hold onto the hope that more interest in avorion forms as it continues in development

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>>150147204
This.
Spengos is only okish in single player and with lots of mods.

empyrion has good netcode:^)

ded just like nukemoot's servers

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cleng

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what's a good way to make an easily mass producable warhead-based missile that I can sling at things I don't like?

>>150150901
What game, retard?

>>150150901
game is spongos by the way

>>150151028
projectors merge blocks and welders

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>adding more vertical rudders in robocuck only slows my plane down and makes it rolls slower, instead of giving it increased agility

>>150151391
get out

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>>150150901
Missile printer of multiphase ICBM
1st a layer to open the hull of the target, then a wall of warheads and containers with spaceballs to fuck it up from the inside.

>>150151391
>rudders
m8 rudders only make things worse now that freejew listened to the shitters and nerfed them so everyone can feel happy about getting stomped on by flyers who are clearly better than them

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page ten

Alone again on a weekend night. Any of you guys in America? The PNW region?

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>>150157704

I downloaded the USNC Infiinity ship from the Space Engineers Workshop, Is there anyway to improve the simulation speed?

I am barely staying above .20

>>150157704
LONDON

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>>150160491
My specs

>>150160491
>>150160907
>wanting good performance from spengies
"no"

Just grabbed From the Depths since it's dirt cheap at the moment. What's the meta like right now?

>>150164413
you should refund

the dev is making it go down the drain

>>150160491
You cant.
Wait untill cpu's reach stable 5.x clock, and the TI version of the 10xx cards came out to OC it and do SLI.
Then you will reach 60fps, and a simspeed of 0.6.

>>150164413
The meta is that the main and basically only dev, and the one in charge of all the decisions, is actively destroying the game with petty hissy fits and bullshit reasons.

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>>150165261
>the one in charge of all the decisions, is actively destroying the game with petty hissy fits and bullshit reasons
The /egg/ curse.

>>150166017
too true

>>150166017
I wouldn't say Spergies fits that bill too entirely, though.

Marek's vision of the game is far more limited than ours, and his dev crew just isn't good at what they do.

>>150092861
seems like a perfectly reasonable method of DRM to me
non-invasive but still fucks over piratefags

>>150167813
And anyone using a non-DRM version.

>>150135204
I saw none of the pre-release hype for spore
I enjoyed its release as a result
I still enjoy it today

>>150167031
>Marek's vision of the game is far more limited than ours
Maybe if he kept his windows clean he'd get somewhere.

>>150160491
>>150160907
>Is there anyway to improve the simulation speed?
Yes. Get a real CPU. Just don't fall for the i7 meme (especially hexacore meme). Actually hexacore will fix all your problems. But buy a Xeon, it's a super cheap i7.

>>150168087
Steam is cancer but I wouldn't call it DRM. Take an old game, add workshop and steamworks multiplayer and suddenly gogcuck are BTFO. But I do like my gog for piracy purposes. God bless poland.

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>>150079932
There's a small chance but it happens mostly at igh angle like 70-80°. Another commmon phenomenon is the normalization effect: during the initial penetration when the point of the projectile digs in the armor the back is still going forward so the projectile gets rotated a couple degrees towards the normal of the armor plate thus reducing the angle of incidence and the effective armor.

>>150170131
Is Spengies even multithreaded? Because then he might just go for single core power.

>>150170131
Apparently the i7 4790k is still a really solid choice for single core performance.

>>150170435
I don't think coilguns give a fuck what angle your armor is at, speed > all in terms of penetration.

>>150170519
A quick google search tells me spengies uses all of the physical cores you have, but logical cores are alien technology (as with most games actually). So i5 is still the V8 of gaming CPUs.

>>150170658
Literally the same die as 4690, just different firmware to enable "hyperthreading", which is intel's brand name for simultaneous multithreading, which is to say fake logical cores. Xeon E3 is a downclocked i7 die which you can never overclock but a) costs the same as i5 b) ditches iGPU c) has HT d) is a workstation CPU and all the chicks at your college dorm will be mighty impressed.

>Machinecraft update
>go to steam to see changelog
>changelogs are kill
So... what changed?

So if these threads are to be trusted, every single engineering game is a laggy piece of shit with drama queen devs that are in the process of killing their game(s). If that's the case, then what are you guys even playing?

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>>150171686
Because there are no alternatives for us.

>blink and lose five hours to TIS-100

I need help and don't know who to turn to.

>>150164472
>>150165261

Specific details?

>>150165261
>tfw Machinecraft suffers from this too

>>150172420
see
>>150077278
>>150077518
He's doing simplification stuff, I think it's because a group of people on the forums wants FTD to be more casual because they're faggots, and he's snapping back at them by making it TOO casual.
Or something.
I don't really know, he's just being autistic.

>>150171686
I'm still in my honeymoon with spengie spongos. And let me tell you, laddie, it's a laggy buggy piece of shit and those isnane cunt who play permadeath RP belong in a fucking mental ward.

Who Empyrion here? Anyone tried the PVP?
Came back after not playing for a few months and it's much better now building wise. Hangar doors/shutters/ramps fucking finally.
Seems to be slowly turning into a good fun game.

>>150172694
Wake me up when it's out of early access. I'm not falling for that meme again.

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>>150172106
How far have you got?

>>150172764
>when it's out of early access

heh good one. I blame minecraft.

REM tanks when
space combat looks trash
literally better robocraft if you can do it

>>150175243
they're planning tonks, spess is just easier for them to do right now, let them get a good stable framework that isn't spaghetti-code first.

I just want a game where I can build a cool something and go pew pew at other players. Is that so much to ask for?

>>150177040
yes, also games like that aren't necessarily /egg/.
needs to be more autistic

>>150177095
"build a cool something" is often the best part, provided the process is actually enjoyable.

>>150177040
machinecraft

>>150177183
needs systems, design, not just aesthetics.

>>150177040
REManon shilling shamelessly, reporting,

You can do that in REM right now against AI, multiplayer soon. You can have the AI fight the AI if you want.

>>150177183
>>150177237
machinecraft

>>150177280
Downloading the Remo now, seems neat!

>>150177194
>>150177458
What's the PREMIUM version got over the free version?

>>150177506
I think smoke emitters and the ability to paint over blocks with images?

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>>150175243
REM toegay battles when?

>>150178176
>tfw Robocraft has been turned into an unplayable pile of total fucking garbage

Feels really bad man.

>>150178278
I think everyone that had played Robocraft had some higher expectations of it.

Though it's going to be my go-to game for skids until I can get into the Crossout Beta and see if I can be dagumi there.

Is there a game that lets me play the X series block by block?

>>150178967
REManon here. Avoirion? What specific gameplay aspect are you looking for?

>>150178967
REManon here. My nutsack does just that.

>>150178967
REManon here. Play REM.

Machinecraft is best /egg/, /egg/ server when. If we only showed it wasn't dead ;_;

>>150178967
Yeah Avorion is pretty much like the X series but it's pretty much WIP right now, though it shows a lot of promise and has a very solid base.

>Trying to make stuff in REM
>Game won't let me make anything that moves on the Y axis

How am I supposed to make a ship if I can't make bars/armor plates?

>>150180923
>Game won't let me make anything that moves on the Y axis
yes you can.
shift and ctrl are the straight up and straight down keys.
I'm not sure what menu option corresponds with them with the new GUI, but it's one of them.

>>150180923
I remember you have to reinstall the game if you get that bug

>>150077278
>Well... wood, metal, scrap, oil and crystal have been unified under a single resource called material.

Well that's good. I have been tired of waiting for ether metal or scrap due to the lack of resource pool to actual expansion during localized resources to even build a big ship.

>>150172559
>FTD to be more casual because they're faggots

In honestly if they wanted to play casual they would have just done global resources mode, which is the default.

>>150181016
No, I mean I can't build struts long the Y axis, at all. I've tried that, it does nothing. If I try to move from one plane to another while holding the build button, it just stays wireframe and never becomes an object.

>>150181316
sounds like a bug

Anyone here try Lightspeed Frontier?

is the demo worth the 240 mb download?

GUYS PLEASE PLAY MACHINECRAFT IM SO FUCKING LONELY AND THERES NOTHING TO DO BUT JERK OFF TO CUBES WHEN I CANT EVEN SHOOT SOMEONE

>>150147367
Jesus fuck you retard you have already been told several times by at least 3 people that serverside physics/movement/important things is standard in almost any mp game that knows what it's doing. Now being a messy broken laggy piece of shit that is a problem.

>>150181769
You could always jerk off to me_____________

>>150181769
Dude I'm fucking trying to but the chingchong engrish translation makes building stuff about as easy as ripping my dick off bare handed.

>>150181905
>and keen cannot into netcode.
>reading comprehension

>>150181769
why

>>150181916
ASK QUESTIONS
I WILL HELP YOU

>>150181974
>brain damage and butthurt
>>150181916
Learn chinese. Japanese is just a copy :^)

>>150181998
Where do I go in the builder to assign specific buttons to different parts? I thought I'd found it, but when I tried to test my plane it just kind flopped onto the ground and nothing wanted to move or function.

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>>150182021
>butthurt
???
After repeating memes that someone told me, someone told me that serverside physics was important for anti-hacking, and that most MP games do physics calculations serverside.
And thus I added the addendum that serverside physics are bad when KEEN is involved.
how is this butthurt?

>>150181769
>tfw the machinecraft situation is the same as the FtD one with the dev being shit

>>150181106
>that's good
Don't even try talking. There is a guy (who is also a forumite)here who probably was one of the people who entered Nick's sissy fit and argued like a child (with another child). He won't shut up instead of turning off devtest and stop eating dicks)

>>150182119
go to builder
press 4
it swaps to SETUP tab

click on a block with a programmable function
assign function name and its state/use/angle/etc

you can change function names in ASSIGN on the main menu

>>150182123
>I buy I nice wheel for my shit car
It's not necessarily bad. If how physic is handled is shit on the server as it was on the client then it changes jack shit.Just get good internet you nigger.

>>150182248
So for something like wings (when attached to the proper pivot or whatever), would I want to assign that to "move up/down" or "turn up/down"?

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>mfw LastStandGamer's channel is finally dying out

He had a good run

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>>150182253
>Just get good internet you nigger.
This isn't physically possible.
Burgerland internet laws are the jewiest thing ever.
Comcast took over FIOS in my area, who were the only people doing fiber, and imposed data caps of 300 gb IIRC on fiber optic lines.

>>150182308
ASSUMING WINGS = SHAFTS THEN YES
YOU WANT TO ASSIGN SOMETHING TO CONTROL THEIR ANGLE TO ALLOW THEM TO IMITATE AILERONS

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>>150182404
So you are telling me that me with my overpriced brazilian connection has more freedom and is freer and better than yours? Welp. The confederados were right.
The internet cartel here tried imposing hard limits on fiber data just as they do with their pitiful limits of 3g and 4g (something like 10 gb for 50 dollars and they simply cut it afterwards) We went to the streets and said we wouldn't accept no matter how many government offices in charge keeping that shit at bay were purchased by them. learn2freedom

>>150182439
Okay, I've figured it out. Lets see if I can slap together some ghetto jet.

>>150182623
>So you are telling me that me with my overpriced brazilian connection has more freedom and is freer and better than yours
Yes
I have a choice between jewed up fiber or internet on par with australia.
Florida is mostly old people who don't use the internet, and don't know a gigabit from gout, and US ISP laws literally removed competition from being a thing.
We're one of the worst off states.
Bumfuck nowhere has better internet than us because even the shittiest, bare minimum of infrastructure you can buy these days is better than what we have.
Not to mention they probably spy on what I fap to, as well.

>>150182828
Here I have to buy TV, phone, spark radio, pigeon carriers, telegraph package TO get my internet for a decent price otherwise it'll just cost something like "too fucking much". That practice is illegal and widely know to be but kek. I guess internet providers are forced to be terrible.

>>150182394
?

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>>150182394
What do you mean, anon?

Truely machinecraft is best egg

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making a russian dome turret has never been ezier

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ded

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>google image search engineering because I'm tired, not coherent, and bored
>almost all the images are blue in color

Hey, is the person hosting the /egg/ ss13 server here?

It's kinda down, or at least multiple people are unable to connect to it at this time

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>>150187647
Some turbine blades are a single huge crystal kek

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>>150189229
>blue print
>extra curricular groups (junior companies, extension programs etc) who prize innovation and wadawada present the exact same presentation, with the same template for slides by some Human Resources guy, for freshmen on my uni
Keks

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>>150172694
EGG
PYRION
WHEN

>>150191280
No shit, it's been dead and down for months, and the host has been gone for much, much longer.

>>150192643
Weird, I swear I was able to access it back in april

>>150191923
I ain't buying another early access piece of crap. If ou wanna gift it to me, then by all means I'll play with you for a bit.