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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, etc.

/sthg/ - #516 - /sthg/'s 2nd Anniversary Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
Sonic Mania Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmtYdEWVzo

Project 2017 Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCh9--2xcKk

Classic Sonic and Green Hill Zone are Coming to Sonic Dash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFiuBzgkkE

LEGO Dimensions Sonic Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgqMlOMvQNY

Sonic Boom Season 2 Sneak Peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aew9e6KjbvA

Sonic Boom Fire & Ice New Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbCJ0IIaE4E

Runners is Dead - Servers to shut down July 27
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/sonic-runners-shutting-down-next-month/

>Recent Releases<
Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games is out now for 3DS and Wii U.
Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is out for the 3DS on September 27.
The Sonic X seasons 1 and 2 collection will be released September 27.

Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
Season 2 will air later this year.

Previous thread: >>149504314
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Happy Birthday, /sthg/
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Happy birthday /sthg/, I might draw something too.
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Happy 2nd birthday /sthg/. Here's to another year of unrelenting autism
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>2 years later and I'm still here
Love you faggots
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Happy Birthday /sthg/! I can't draw Sonic characters yet because of anatomy but have something I drew in a flockdraw a long time ago!
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Out of interest, obviously fuck namefags, but how come some of you guys don't sign your art?
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Happy b-day, sthg
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>>149598686
>toes

Also yes happy birthday.
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>>149597246
I didn't mean to make it that long.
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>>149598771
The way your work looks should be its own signature. If people can't recognize it as yours, then you're not good enough to be noticed.
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>>149598441
Happy birthday you fags!
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>>149598771
Most of recognize the artstyle so we don't need a name for them

Unless it's a new person, then we ask and get information
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>>149598880
>>149598937

Never thought of it that way, makes sense.
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>>149598880
>If people can't recognize it as yours, then you're not good enough to be noticed
harsh
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>>149598996
I used to sign my art when I was in high school, but nowadays I don't care because everyone knows my drawings when they see them, and they're not my characters anyway.
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>>149599074
Show me any artist in this general who signs their work, and I'll show you somehow who desperately craves attention from others.
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Happy birthday you faggots! Guess you got your presents early.
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Which characters would fit Joseph Joestar and Jotaro Kujo? I'm thinking Sonic for the former and Shadow for the latter.
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>>149598441
I want to snuggle you guys.
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>>149599467
Oh yes, two wieners
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>>149599387
>somehow
Shit.
someone*
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>>149599467
Yup! And what presents they are
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>>149599387
That's pretty strong language, anon, and I'd say not at all reflective of our drawfags.
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>>149599387
abt does
I personally like signatures, I feel like they're a seal of quality from the artist. Also some signatures can be fancy as fuck. I think you're being a bit harsh.
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Happy birthday, /sthg/!

Sonicfag from /fgog/ here, we're also having our first anniversary in five days.
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>>149599387
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>>149599894
May your general have a nice anniversary.
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>>149600520
Thanks anon.
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Happy birthday /sthg/, I hope we can enjoy more good games together.
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>>149599387
Yoto and he has the most recognizable style
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We can't go back to slow again!
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>>149601725
Back to my job of bumping the threads at night.
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>gets back from san diego
>reads /sthg/ threads about the party i attended
>no one pointed out Ben Kalough, a True God of the Sonic fanbase was the livestream host
I am disappoint
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Happy B-day /sthg/!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tZ92HPvjzM
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>>149602601
He was?
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>>149602601
So he's the one to blame for the shitty audio?
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>>149602601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlHvE0US_CI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp_ASmxdnAQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtuOW6GmOgE

o7
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>>149602601
Probably because It wasn't the best stream service in the world
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>>149602796
no, rando house of blues employee came in shortly before the event started and fucked around with the audio settings that were already set, if it weren't for that the audio would have been balanced/mixed very well
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Did anyone made the webm with the emotional meme man?
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>>149602601
Does he decide on what camera the stream shows? If he did, then he fucked us with switching out during the costume contest and the VAs parts.
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>>149603276
the host does not direct the live stream, the host hosts it
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>>149603493
Then I'm not seeing why I should care who he is or did.
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>>149603637
"i hate fun, who can i be negative at? if I can't be negative at this person, what's the point?"

what a damn tool
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You all deserved the stream you got, confirmed.
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>>149603863
So we deserved a cool stream, that, despite some difficulties, was an absolute blast to watch and made us fast again? Sounds about right
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>>149603726
>waaaah you don't love this literal who you must hate fun waaaaaaaah

See? I can do it too.
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>>149601508
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/f2chx3a11ascx/Sonic_25th

From an anon a few threads ago.
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>>149603123
I just got home anon, I don't know when I'll have it ready or if it'll be ready today but I'll eventually get to it.
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What if Sally was wearing a wig the whole time?
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Is it save to assume this Nexus dude is brainwashed by Wally? I mean isn't that where he ran off to after he got his shit kicked in by Eggman? Poor Rogue is never gonna get to keep any of those false master emeralds.
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>>149605916
It's safe to assume that he literally is Naugus.
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>>149606079
But he looks like one of Knuckles species then again so did Thrash and we know how that went
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>>149606504
Shapeshifting dude. Look at their outfits, they're similar.
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>>149605859
I really like this style, is not full chubby-classic sonic but it's still retro
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>>149606504
IT's been outright stated in the reboot that Naugus can shapeshift, and Nixus has many of the same design elements of Naugus. They're one and the same. Fuck's sake, Nixus is literally a combination of Naugus+Ixis See pic related
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>>149606504
There's no way it'll be an actual enchilada. Sega has an explicit mandate about Knuckles being the last of his kind (Tikal is still able to appear because she's explicitly a ghost), and we all know that if there's a new non-game enchilada around, Penders will sue Archie AGAIN.
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>>149607265
>Sega has an explicit mandate about Knuckles being the last of his kind
They actually don't. Ian has said Sega is fine with them using material from Chronicles including the echidnas, it's Penders keeping him from doing so. If it wasn't Penders you'd have Shade, Ix and a bunch of other Nocturnus echidnas running around.

If such a mandate exists, it's probably limited to Knuckles being the last of his tribe to avoid the dozens of bullshit relatives and super secret societies, not the last echidna.
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>>149605452
All of the characters on the 'Modern' file feels limited for some reason.

Maybe they are hinting of the possibility of other playable characters in the 2017 project.
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>>149607593
>If it wasn't Penders you'd have Shade
PENDDDEEEERRRRSSS. Why can't he fuck off already?
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Hey, there was a youtube video posted several threads ago (probably before the party) that I think was a remix that a lot of anons liked. I missed it then and forgot to listen to it later, does anyone remember what I'm talking about and has the link?
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>>149603123
Taking webm requests of the stream
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>>149608278
Thank you meme man
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>>149607963
Tell me about it. Bioware putting in the bare minimum of effort managed to do his job better than he ever could. It's almost like Penders is a total fucking hack or something.
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>>149607593
>>149607963
Penders didn't fucking make the Nocturnus clan. Sega did. He NEEDS to piss right off and let Archie do what they want with Sega's material.
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>>149608278
YOU'RE ALRIGHT MEME MAN
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>>149608034
It might have been this.

http://youtu.be/OeuMHOZ_bcY
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>>149608492
This goes to show that good composition holds up well regardless of speed.

Goddamn this is the true form to Classic Sonic I can't fucking wait.
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>>149608034
You'd have to narrow it down, but I think it might be either of these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU2BImK9v9w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vp5aMPAUYQ
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>>149609003
Isn't this the dude handling Sonic Mania?
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>>149605452
> all of these high-quality renders
> they're on a par with the Archie renders used for comic cover artwork
> those models were never released
> New Sonic game features a 'resistance' theme

DARE I HOPE?!
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>>149606504
>so did Thrash

Except that he had fucking ears and didn't have the echidna tail? Thrash was never meant to be taken for an echidna genius.
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>>149608278
He deserves it
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>>149608278
The part where Johnny takes a nap?
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>>149609136
Yep, kind of amazing we were posting his stuff literally right before Mania was announced.
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Oh yeah my friend attended and he's going to give me the usb with the data intact. I'll upload it once he gives it to me.

I'm also getting that sweet anniversary hat.
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>>149607070
Don't forget, the last time we saw Naugus was in Hidden Palace Zone at the end of Eggman's Dozen.
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>Talking with friend at work about vidya
>both of us like sonic
>he says sonic 3 & k is shit compared to super mario world
> ask how
> says the game is better designed both for with and without powerups
>says the shields are shit since you barely use them or need them
>couldn't think of anything to say

Is my friend right, /sthg/?
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I feel like Shade would be amusing to see in the comic but I can't shake that she'd try to solve her problems with violence even more then Gemerl and Omega do. I wish Gemerl would stop jobbing I mean, he was outnumbered majorly but dammit, I want him to get a cool moment. Same for the acorns. The king may of knocked Bean on his ass but Bark just smashed him like nothing and Sally can barely hold her own in a fight. I'd put more trust in Tails and Cream then in them right now in a battle.
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>>149608278
I need another party so bad man. I feel a little heartbroken.
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>>149609392
It's just a different way of design, I like the shields in S3&K they give you good movement with a air-dash bounce and 2nd jump. And the Insta-Shield is a good move. Also how is it better designed when you can fly over the whole stage with a cape feather
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>>149609392
lolno he's mad wrong

It means the game was designed well to allow a player good enough to not need them. Literally the same thing could be said for SMW. I've never NEEDED a power-up to beat the game. That's not a bad thing.

If anything, it can be seen as negative that you need certain items to get secrets in SMW but I wouldn't stretch it that far since they're not important to the core game.

S3&K and SMW are both series' best 2D games. I fucking love them both.
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>>149598771
I always sign my art out of habit. In case someone who hasn't seen my junk before sees it , they already know what to call me. Or they'll just call me drawfag. Either way.
Then again I'm an attention whore.
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>>149609503
For every competent character you need one or more jobbers.
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>>149599930
>>149601067
Yoto definitely loves the attention.
Source:I'm Yoto
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>>149609169
>> they're on a par with the Archie renders used for comic cover artwork
>yfw the artist who made those renders now works for Sega

creating hype is fun but I actually wouldn't want that
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>>149610004
I too love Yoto.
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>>149608278
If you can do sound webm's, can I get one of Amy screaming "You will SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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>>149609392
See >>149609740
>>149609503
I agree to an extent. Sally and Nigel are more leaders than fighters (And even though he jobbed, Nigel still came out of that looking pretty damn cool), but I would like to see them kick actual ass soon
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>>149610004
Well I love your art so I will give you all the attention
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>>149609337
USB contents were already uploaded but it would be fun to see if that one contains a different message.
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>>149609802
There's literally nothing wrong with attention whoring providing you're actually good at something.
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WAT

>アメリカのサンディエゴで開催された「Sonic 25th Anniversary Party」にて、2017年に向けたプロジェクト2タイトルのトレーラーが公開されました。
>※現時点で日本での発売は未定。続報をお待ち下さい。

>It was held in the United States in San Diego in the "Sonic 25th Anniversary Party", the project 2 title of the trailer for the 2017 has been published.
>At the moment launch in Japan is undecided ※. Please wait for the follow-up.
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>>149609392
Probably. I play 3&K every few weeks and off the top of my head I can't think of a place where the lightning shield's ring attraction mattered besides that one upper area in Hydro City.
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>>149610641
nips don't care for Sonic. in fact, some would argue that classic sonic was an attempt to get them back into the fold. The only way they'll even consider coming back is if you turned the cast into humanoids with a few traits of animal looks.
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>most of this board wasn't alive and doesn't remember this
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>>149610906
I hate nips so much
Mario loving fucks
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>>149611050
>that music
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>>149610906
Is this Moe enough enough for them anon
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>>149610004
Yoto is mai waifu!
>>149610641
The big market is outside japan anyways.
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>>149609273
I forgot what song it's during, so I skimmed through and hope I got the right one during Live & Learn.

>>149610147
it's was already on /wsg/
>>>/wsg/1203110
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>>149610004
She is indeed rather good
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>>149611375
Man, I can't wait to see them at SoS.
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>>149611375
The absolute madman.
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>>149611375
Johnny takes a nap while killing time before What I'm Made of.

Also I fucking love Johnny.
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>>149611295
I don't know why, but I am absolutely in love with this hairstyle.

Hsien-Ko has it, too.
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>>149611050
I think the only videogame commercials we got in my country in that time were from nintendo, I don't know why.
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>>149612341
It looks great, only if a sonic character had one
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>you will never roll sonic around with your hands
https://youtu.be/gTMlC2Sgnvs
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>>149613320
Commercial thread?
https://youtu.be/gOIiMh4mMXI
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>>149609273
>>149612015
thanks, got it
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>>149609324
The anon that started that tee lopes posting spree just before mania was announced here and yeah, that weirded me out. I go through a lot of sonic remixes online and found tee lopes' channel and had to post it here. The first one didn't take but the data select screen reminded me of being in an elevator on the island of my dreams I think I said. And I HAD to post it. And that was the one everyone seemed to love so I kept posting.

Then literally a day or two later they announce that's the Mania composer I was pretty amused and weirded out. I wonder if it was like a youtube thing where because it was getting traction it was higher priority so it showed up in my feeds or something?

Weird but neat though.
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>>149613898
>Me waiting for news about project 17
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>>149609740
>smw better than Sm3

I dunno man. I always considered 3 to be better than world. It's probably just nostalgia talking but I enjoy 3 a lot more on subsequent playthroughs. world just has nicer graphics and some secret exits and yoshi.

3 has more costumes and stages.
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>>149611050
no but I remember this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR98zOj0yiw
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>>149614151
Yeah, it's a bit STRANGE, ISN'T IT?
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>>149612939
*Shadow*
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>>149614419
I see what you did there MR PRESIDENT!
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>>149614349
>stages
ehhh I dunno, SMW has a ton, man
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>>149612015
HEY HE'S FAST

HEY,ITS NOT HIS SPEED!
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>>149614649
3 has more levels than world though.
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>>149614851
SMB3: 90
SMW: 96
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I find it interesting the 2017 project trailer specified it was from the makers of Colors and Generations. I guess that does prove for any non believers Sonic Team is split into multiple teams.
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>>149614649
The way 2d Mario works is that they have a entire world based on theme that reuses a lot of assets like for more levels.

Sonic Levels have that theme and stage enemies for only 2 acts.

That's how they can have a Mario Maker
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>>149615090
SMB3: 98
SMW: 96

posting random numbers is fun.


Better comparison

SMB3 = Sonic 2
SMW = Sonic 3



1 = 1
SMB 2 = Sonic and Knuckles
Lost Levels: Chaotix
Yoshi's Island = Sonic Advance
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>>149609003
I hope this start a new wave of people making new remixes of sonic's songs, I never get tired of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QgcmP0o3e8
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>you lived through the dark ages to witness this moment
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>>149615375
we're talking about smw vs smb3

>>149615418
Where in the fuck did you get 98 from?
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>>149615709
We lived through the dark ages to see some of our own MAKE this moment.
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>>149615776
I'm not answering that because you quite clearly didn't read my post so I'm going to presume you're not even going to read this.
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>>149615709
>you lived through the dark ages to witness more dark ages
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>>149615776
Got it
>>149615709
Looks good
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>>149615895
I saw it, but I fail to see exactly what in the hell stage count has to do with arbitrary comparisons between the two series.
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>>149615709
This was more like the meh era than the dark ages.
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>>149614521
But Shadow isn't cute with it he's edgy anon
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>>149615709
I really can't choose only one moment of that trailer to name it my favorite, But the part with the "3 playable characters" where the crowd fucking exploded and the title screen were at least memorable as fuck.
>>149616051
Yeah It was only average really, but boom looked like we were going to crash.
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>>149615974
>tfw the trailer was talking about how the franchise wasn't able to make another great success.
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>>149612939
Blaze kinda has it.
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>>149616442
>boom looked like we were going to crash.
True dat, but hey now even Fire and Ice is getting positive buzz. Now we just need a new fighting game. Put AM2 on it Sega since they ain't working on VF6.
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>>149616726
Well no Sonic game has ever sold more than the first so it's kinda true.
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>>149617041
Sonic Generations is the highest selling Sonic game of all time
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Fly in the Freedom is the best character theme from SA2
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>>149617041
I thought Sonic 2 was the highest selling Classic title
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>>149617041
>>149617114
Sonic 2 is the highest selling if you include console bundles.
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>>149610906
If I remember, a while back there was a poll where British women turned out to be the largest Sonic fans in the UK or something like that.
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>>149617242
>>149617245
Wiki says Sonic 1 has 15 mil with bundles, but its Wikipedia so who knows.
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>>149617361
I've heard that the UK had the most Sonic Fans, funny because he's radical american 90's
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>>149610906
They like adventure 2 and they like him as a mascot, but with the Genesis getting crushed in Nippon it's understandable he would only be loved by hardcore seganerds and westaboos.
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>>149617361
What other kind of women would you expect to be the biggest Sonic fans IN THE UK?
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>>149616881
>buzz
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>>149617524
It's true. Why do you think all the big fan conventions are held in the UK?
>>149617723
The Irish?
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Do you think we'll see Hawaiian Shadow in season 2 of Boom?
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I think I'm going to start writing my fanfic I talked about yesterday now. I can't help but feel a little out of place, though. While I guess there are some other writefags here, I don't think I've seen any writefagging done here for quite a while.
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>>149618172
I don't doubt it.
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>>149603123
Here, anon.
Can we make him a card yet
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>>149618202
protip: the less you try to get attention the better you'll be received.
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>>149618202
I'm a writefag but haven't done fanfiction in a long time.
Best just jump in and start. I never make any overall plans at first because I get bogged down in it and lose interest. I just want to get started with an idea, make progress and then I'll fix it up, which makes me a terrible person to take any form of advice from.

Good luck anon.
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>>149618248
I feel this event was cathartic for a lot of people.
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>>149616881
Get Bandai Namco to help out. Pokken's fun. And when they actually give a shit, their games come out really good.
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>>149618248
The meme man is so sweet.
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>>149618564
God damn right it was, it was nice to have a big celebration for Sonic that wasn't overrun with hate & mean-spirited memes.
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>>149618450
You make a great point. I'm going to disappear now until I have something I think is worth sharing with /sthg/.
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>>149618248
When's his birthday?
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GameTap did an interview with former vice president Shinobu Toyoda where he confirmed that the original game sold 15 million copies bundled with the Sega Genesis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mFs2v7XM4o

Americans might have to use a proxy, but everywhere else should be able to view it just fine.


Meanwhile, Sonic Generations sold only 1.85 million copies across the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Nintendo 3DS, and Steam, as confirmed by a 2012 Q1 financial appendix released by Sega Sammy Holdings, linked here:

https://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/settlement/2012/20120511_hosoku_e_final.pdf#page=6

While I couldn't find anything as definitive for Sonic the Hedgehog 2, VGChartz reports that it sold 6.03 million units. Take of that what you will.
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>>149618202
There's been slow deliveries over the past few months, but they're far and few between.
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Loved the newest BumbleKast's discussion on chronology, but I was confused about one thing.

>If we were to be very hardcore on the game material, technically speaking Sonic Advance 3 should come before everything else, which doesn't make any sense, so there ya go.

What was Ian getting at with that? Is he referring to some continuity flub in SA3, or did he misspeak? If so, what did he mean to say?
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>>149618889
1.85 is more than I thought but less than I hoped.
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>>149618889
That's probably because of the piratery. It's not much but I'll try to buy the next ones at full price.
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>>149618202
I haven't really considered writing a fanfic since high school. I assumed it'd be really autistic and shippy and no one would read it.
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>>149618991
Found the manual on Retro

>Dr. Eggman has used Chaos Control to break the world into 7 parts, and plans to rain confusion by turning each into a Dr. Eggman Empire.

Sonic and Tails, having been separated from their friends, are teaming up to return the world to its original state. To do this, they must find all 7 Chaos Emeralds and use Chaos Control to undo Dr. Eggman's mischief.

But Eggman isn't resting on his laurels. He's used his engineering genius to perfect the ultimate fighting robot, and will do all in his power to stand in Sonic's way.

Seems like he misspoke. Either that or I'm missing something here
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>>149610906
>nips don't care for Sonic
Some do and produce kick ass art so I care about them when they don't go crazy about their art and lock it behind 7 keys preventing almost anyone from seeing it.
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>>149618991
Something to do with the Master Emerald.
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Time stamp of Johnny taking a nap?
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>>149618991
I thought it was because Emerl was a suped-up copy of Gemerl, or somethin'?
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>>149619148
If something exists, someone will want it.
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>>149619228
Coolblue is japanese?
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>>149618202
>For one of my important English exams I had to create a short story.
>The theme of the story had to be "2 Characters in an unfimiliar setting"
>Pick Sonic and Link in the Land of Ooo
>Got a B
>mfw

I don't know why I picked that combination of all things. Never wrote a genuine fanfic but I guess in the eyes of examiners I'm ok at it.
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>>149619274
around 2:28:30
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>>149619130
>tfw full blown pirate
>tfw never bought a single vidya
>mfw my conscience is gonna have me by the balls if I don't buy this
The worst part is that I'm just gonna pay for it, leave the download untouched, and pirate it anyway to play it.
Actually, I think even worse is the fact that I woudn't feel right if I didn't pay the highest price for this (provided it's all it promises to be), but I don't even know if that's possible because of how prices are set up for different regions, and if it were possible, it would probably amount to a big part of a month's wage because of the currency exchange.
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Guy who drew OP pic here, didn't get a chance to say anything before leavin'.
This general is chill af, will be coming back to draw sometime! I hope?! (I'm usually super busy)
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>>149620460
They'll need the sales if it doesn't make ridiculous numbers they'll think we don't know what we want and wont give this team more games
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>>149620613
Awesome work my man, care to weigh in on >>149598771
?
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>>149620784
no pls

But in all seriousness, let's wait and see how the games start to look when they reveal more information. One thing's for sure: I'd really hate to be cucked once I decide to put money down for a game. Specially by Sega, given the track record they have.
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>>149618991
>>149619164

I don't know how that would be true. I, at first, assumed he was gonna say it wouldn't work because Eggman splits the world into 7 pieces yet somehow didn't release Dark Gaia.

Also Eggman has blown up the moon and split the earth into pieces twice. It's kind of surprising he HASN'T taken over.
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>>149620613
Awesome. Do you have something you'd mind being called here? Or would you rather just be an anonymous drawfriend?
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So Mania is going to be made in the same engine CD re-release was done or something? I don't know if I get that thing right.
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>>149621610
Both by the same guy, Christian Whitehead, so yeah
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>>149621610
Yes. All of the mobile ports along with Sonic Mania use the Retro Engine.
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>>149621610
It is being nade using the Retro Engine created by Christian Whitehead (Taxman) yes same as the ones used 1-2 and CD
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>>149620613
Hey, you
yes, you
thank you
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>>149621686
>>149621740
>>149621805
Has anyone tried to mod them yet?
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>>149622065
>Moding that engine
Heh good luck with that
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Is there a name for eggman/robotnik's hovercraft thing?
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>>149622693
Egg Mobile
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>>149622693
Eggmobile, he mostly uses a egg naming convention
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>>149622757
>>149622789
Thanks!
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I've heard some people say they changed the Fire shield to have some homing properties, but IIRC didn't the Fire Shield in Sonic 3D Blast do that too?
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>>149623112
It doesn't look like it does. And that wasn't a fire shield it was a special green shield in 3D Blast.
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>>149616181
>implying
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>>149623263
Ah, I see, I probably got the shield confused for the shield in Classic Heroes, thanks.
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Do you think if they were to add Mystic Cave as a Zone in Mania they'd add in Hidden Palace as a secret Zone too?
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>>149619631
Tojyo and Michiyoshi, anon.
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>>149620613
Happy to have you!

>>149622693
Egg Mobile in the games, Egg-o-Matic in the comics
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>>149621609
I can go by Daco(sfw) or Dawmino(nsfw)
Didnt sign the stuff cause I plum forgot!
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>>149624039
No, it's the Eggmobile/Egg Mobile in the comics as well. IIRC, Egg-O-Matic was only really used in the non-Japanese Genesis manuals, AOSTH, and the really early AOSTH-esque Archie comics.
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So is it JUST Tee Lopes doing the music or is Jun doing some too? Or at the very least watching over him?
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>>149624640
Probably just Tee Lopes.

Jun will probably do work for Project 2017
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>>149624640
From what I can tell I want Jun to stay the hell away and let the man work his magic. His stuff is better than Jun's non-guitar work.
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>>149623263
Well it's not like he's near any enemies in this webm.
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>>149624640
I've seen it not do anything anon
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>>149624206
Haha. Well Nice of you to stop bu. Always good to have some more drawfriends.
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>>149624905
>>149625000
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So how will they handle CD Zones if they add them in Mania?
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>>149625115
Forced time travel
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>>149618727
i suppose everyone here agreed to not watch the twitch/yt chats during the stream
nice stuff
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>tfw the party had a good ending after all
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>>149621495
"that meddlin' hedgehog-!"
>>149621610
yes, it will ^^
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>>149608609
>Penders didn't fucking make the Nocturnus clan. Sega did.
Technically, it's Bioware's Idea; but now they're owned by EA.
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>>149621495
Don't forget that he had the power to extract as much life energy from the planet as he wanted. How the hell does Sonic even beat this guy?
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>>149624892

Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis)
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>>149602587
>using image from that Rogue X Omega porno.
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>>149626169
Sorry, doesn't hold a candle to Tee Lopes' work.

Plus, Richard Jacques' version is better, too.
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>>149612341
That looks awfully familiar
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>>149626371
Yeah, it's the same character m8.
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>>149626526
I can't believe he change the gender to fuck with us.
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>>149626607
What do you mean? Isn't he a boy?
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Are there any writefags/otherwise who'd be willing to read a little bit of my stuff?

I've produced a few paragraphs, and I'd like some feedback on the writing style (is it even cohesive...?) and how "in character" the characters are, if it's not too much trouble.

I've never really written before, so this is is mainly an experiment to see how I can do.

http://pastebin.com/mPCCtJVu

I'd also like some feedback on how cringey it is. Being that I'm the one who wrote it, I don't quite trust my own perspective.
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>>149626527
cute
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>>149626781
>"Hey. Don't you dare touch me again you little bitch."
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>>149626527
We need someone to draw Hello Kitty wearing Sonic's radical clothes from the OVA
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>>149626781
Tails fucked Kitty in TGT.
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>>149626318
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NMMyFng5J1o
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>>149627030
>People will STILL deny meme magic isn't real
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>>149617245
Sonic 3K
Double the game, double the sales.
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>>149626074
It may have been BioWare's idea, but as Sega was fine with Archie using the Chronicles characters (remember, it's Penders that's the problem with the Nocturnus echidnas coming back), it's clear that they're the ones who own them.
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Doesn't the premise of Project 2017 feel like a good opportunity to bring Mighty back?
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>>149627580
See >>149618889
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>>149628182
They won't.
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>>149628182
What would post-Adventure Mighty even be like?
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>>149628182
I don't really see the connection, but it'd be interesting to see him make a comeback.

>>149628497
Like a cockier Knuckles, maybe? Perhaps a Jet-like foil for Sonic?
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>>149628182
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, but I'd be willing to see Mighty come back regardless. Some characters (I'm looking at you, Fang) are overdue to make a return appearance.
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>>149628182
I think the premise might be a bit deceiving. It can go in any direction.

Do you think they'll actually make it so dark as to have giant robots crushing cities while Sonic watches, or do you think that was that only the intro and they'll tone it down for the rest of the game?
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>>149628497
They would give him Sonic's old Insta -Shield because hes a armored armadillo
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>>149628409
Can dream

>>149628497
Probably similar to the archie Mighty. Taller with boots.
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>>149628615
They're never coming back.
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>>149628638
They'll probably tone it down. I expect some levels with destruction a modest amount of destruction.
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>>149628878
I'm allowed to dream, aren't I?
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>>149629080
No dreams here, you have to face the sick reality of life like the rest of us.
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Anyone else expecting that new 3D sonic to just be him, his past self and just 1 Tails vs the two Eggmen with no other characters? I doubt since Eggman has himself to talk to the game will bother with Orbot and Cubot again and if they want to make it feel like a treat they could say the Eggmen killed all of Sonic's friends including modern Tails off screen or at least imply he turned them all into mindless robots off screen to up the anti. I mean, nothing against tails but I felt like 1 Tails was enough for Sonic Generations, they basically were the same character and I'd rather keep the cuter one if we had to ditch one.
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>>149629287
But anon, that's all of the characters in the series.
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>>149629372
Metal Sonic x2 would be fun, anybody other then that, no. I don't want to see Amy or Knuckles at all if they're gonna handle them like they did in Lost World. That was fucking bullshit, why even have them in the game? Sega fucked themselves over by giving Knuckles a job he should be doing then promptly ignoring said job to be stuck getting talked down to by Amy, who I really wish acted more like her comic self.
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>>149629372
Not like you need anyone else besides Sonic, Classic Sonic, Tails, and the Eggmen, especially for something celebrating 25 years of Sonic
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>>149629287
I think it depends. I don't know how much they'll follow what we saw in the trailer, but if they do it seems the new game might be quite big. Maybe there could be hubs, and in the hubs there could be several different characters or groups of them.

I hope P&G aren't getting their hands on this. Having someone else writting that knows his shit will probably mean better chances of more characters happening, at least as NPCs, as they could want to exploit that to improve the game. I don't care as much for other characters appearing as other people, specially if they are really irrelevant in the game and are only there for the sake of appearance, but I'm all for better writing.
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>>149630107
Yes, especially since macgiver tails would DEM some bullshit device to spoil Eggmens plans and that's stupid compared to the time honored just smashing that shit approach Sonic's been doing just fine. He can stay out
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fuck, can someone post the Blaze flat soda pic? I thought I saved it but I guess not.
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>>149630273
Do we even need Tails? Sonic, Classic Sonic, and the Eggmen seems like it'd be enough. Not just for this game, but for future Modern games too. (Classic games can have the Sonic/Tails/Knuckles trio + Robotnik)
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Did anyone here enjoyed this game? I never played it before, I been trying it just recently, but I have a lot of problems with it, what was its appeal?
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>>149630418
Even though that could work it feels like it would get boring.
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>>149630701
Not like you really play Sonic for the plot. As long as both of them play well and they make the levels fun I don't see the problem here.
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>>149630659
5 acts per zone was a mistake.
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>>149630659
Its appeal is "it's Knuckles' only headlining game." It has a shit ton of problems that aren't easily solved without a complete revamp and is aggressively mediocre as a result.
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>>149630418
We need at least 1 Tails for Sonic to talk to since he can't exactly banter with himself due to him being a silent protagonist. Then again, if P and G are writting again I'd rather no Tails at all because those shitty ass jokes they've been abusing since Colors have worn thin especially with Tails playing the most boring straight man ever. The poor kid struggles for a purpose in the games now, it's like he's only there as an obligation to the classic fans who started with Sonic 2. I'd like for him to be banished to the comic void like everyone else and just have it be Sonic, Eggman and Metal Sonic. A small cast can work so long as the game is good. Super Mario 64 only had Mario,Peach and Bowser with only peach talking in the opening and ending and Bowser talking before and after each boss battle. course the game had NPC characters like the toads,bom-ombs, Koppa and Boos saying things.
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>>149630883
You can have Classic pantomime to make up for it. Or you can actually give Classic Sonic the personality he originally had and stop making him arbitrarily mute.

Yeah, just banish everyone not named Sonic, Eggman, and Metal to the comic or Boom or wherever the fuck. Hell, after 2017 you can just ditch the classic versions and have it just be the modern versions of the aforementioned 3 characters
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>>149630396
I got you
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>>149631089
preesh
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>>149630797
I'm honestly mildly interested in the plot to see what happens.
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http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2016/07/25/987741/

What the hell? wasn't there already a mini sega on the market?
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>>149631286
I don't see it getting too dark for one reason: Classic Sonic. It's hard to have a plot you can take seriously with him being there. Either it's lighter than we expect or it's going to be fucking WEIRD
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>>149630797
I could start playing Sonic for the plot, I wouldn't mind.
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Characters are "needed" when they make the gameplay and/or story interesting. Having games with just Sonic and Eggman is boring even from a gameplay perspective. Extra characters freshens things up. Of course they can't even get Sonic right half the time but that's an issue with dev team competence, not the characters themselves.

As silly as Shadow's game was, it was actually a good decision to make a standalone Shadow game because it let them make a combat platformer without going against Sonic's established personality and abilities. They just botched the execution.
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>>149631545
(That is, assuming there is a plot to give a damn about in this game.)
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>>149631545
But why would you? If you're looking for a good narrative in a video game, hell, even a platformer, Sonic wouldn't be one of the first choices
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>>149631456
yes it has, this isn't really news
even on brazil genesis and master system still are current
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>>149630805
>finish the third one
>there is no boss
>find out that there are more acts
What were they thinking
>>149630834
I was expecting a bit more just because that's the first appearance of the chaotix and people seem to really like them.
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Honestly, Shadow the Hedgehog should've been a character action game with platformer elements.
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>>149631456

Yes and it's garbage.
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>>149631470
The lost world plot was standard flare until Amy died off screen, Tails was kidnapped and Eggman fucked off somewhere. It was pretty weird to see Sonic jumping into a fight with a deadly six member without doing any banter. I mean he straight up killed them all even after they dopped themselves up on planet energy and jumped him, Sonic won without being hurt and as soon as Tails was okay he switched back to his usual demeanor and even sent Eggman plummeting back to earth which if the game wasn't so slapstick all of a sudden, would of killed him. Lost world was a very weird game in terms of tone.
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What the fuck is her problem?
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>>149630659
It's on the 32x: meaning that it have better graphics and better music than the rest of Sonic's Genesis titles. But that's it, you rather play Sonic Advance 3 for proper 2play co-op; the bungie rings are a mistake.
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>>149632372
she has a short life eggspectancy.
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>>149610641
They first hinted at the damn project in Japan, they'll get it.
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>>149632372
Her eyes and ears had to be replaced, likely this is a result of her brain shutting down due to some sever neurological disorder.

It might progress to the point where there's no alternative but for her to be robotized.
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>>149610004
I doubt you're still here but would you mind drawing a picture that involves Rouge sometime in the future?
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>>149632818
That's pretty dark Ian.
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Whose voice do you read Shard's dialogue with?
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>>149633495
Bender, because why not?
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>>149633414
Don't blame Ian, blame Aleah
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>>149632372
It looks as if she saw a pleb
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Drawfag here, wondering if the collage is done yet.
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>>149633495
I've seen Metabee suggested. Along with just Sonic with a robot filter.
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>>149610004
yoto if you're a dude I'd go gay for you
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>>149633495
Christopher Daniel Barnes' Spider-Man (from the early '90s cartoon), for some reason.
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>>149634016
Oh man, the anon in charge of that wasn't heard of again.
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>>149634815
Fuck.

Well, does anyone want some new requests while I'm here?
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>>149634946
Hello Kitty wearing Sonic's radical clothes from the OVA. Or maybe just the shirt
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>>149633495
Stamper's battleblock narrator voice because it amuses me
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>>149634946
Fang with his gun doing this pose?
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https://www.mediafire.com/folder/f2chx3a11ascx/Sonic_25th#f2chx3a11ascx

Anyone got the MEGA version of this?
MEGA is much more friendlier then Media.
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>>149634946
a silly marine?
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>>149634946
Classic Eggman doing Sonic's Lay down pose while scratching his behind
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>>149635415
Not him, but how does this shitty edit hold up?
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>>149634946
Shard meeting Gemerl
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>>149635378
ITS A SECRET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMUEFZXkmDA
*Stamper Scats*
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>>149635378
That's a really amusing voice in general.
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>>149609337
Please do it as a .zip if you do. The other Mediafire link is all split up which is a bit annoying to download.
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>>149634946

modern amy giving classic sonic a piggyback!
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>>149632372
She just wants to have some fun despite her sister's concerns about her disability
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>>149634946
Blaze wearing a Star Trek outfit. Preferably one with a skirt.
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>>149635840
will do
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>>149635832
Doobydoobydabbadoobydabadooda bedigabibblebede, It's a secret!
Rah papachibuhbabababachibuh Rah-papachibuh-BLRRRR, BLRRRR!
Doobibabajibudabarijbuhrbj darupabiscjjjPAH-PAHhbebebrrpde ehbehjejgbbsgebejebeberp-rp-ptchh! It's a secret!
DoobadoobadabaPA!dajabba, rmmbujischa-DOODELIDOO! aRAH-PAH-PAAHbaDAbadaJI-BA, barrabapbapduudilyFRYHA!
Derabapadiddlybumdapapa, behdedejebellehbuddlepah, A D-bd-bPFFTderibbitjPFTBadi-di-ding-dang-dong!
RRRAPADOOPPPADEE! RRAPADOOPAPAAH! ZAPADOOBLEJZINGJGXUBREPPEDEPEEUH! XINGBANGDJUBJEIGEDEPAMPAM, DJABAPEUDELEBREEHHH- (Rapadapadapa)
-Bbrrum DJIGIT bbradumbadum TCHHT Bbrrum DJING badungbadunggadunggadung buckabuckadika diudndiDIkaDIDI PRRRP! - It's a secret!
Brum A-a ha HA HA HA! A-a a a aaah! Brum, eh... pfft, pff pffrpt- eh eh unk eh OHR!
Bunchikachrkabadungdadungachickachicka bungchikarghbunchikakaKAARchickabungctskk...ooh-ah!...O!...o-o-O, O! o o o o-o-O! O-o o o O! UOOO O O O O UOO! -UR BOHBADOHBABURGH!
Bubaruhbohboh ruhbaduhRUH! JDRARARARARARUHRUHRUHRUUUHHRururururuhRUH, RUH RUH RUH RUHRUUHH Buhruhruhruhbehahahaaah!houh!
pop, pop pop, pop pop pop pop pop ,pop pop ,pop pop pop pop !pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop , pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop !
Skabadoobadoh? - SKOOBIDOOBIDADOO!
Babaladapdob? - Skabalabalaba!
. Babadiba? - Babadoobie!
Yabadabadada. - SKABADANGDANGDIDEE~!!
Skoobidoobedih? - Skoobedoobeda!
Abadabadiba? Skabadoobie-Arr(begrudging sigh?)
BUCKAW BUCKA-BUCKA! - Now you're talking! :D
BUCK BUCK BUCKaw? BUCKA-BAAW!!!
BU-BUCKA-BAW BUCKA-BAW BUCKA-BAW BUCKA-BERK BUCKA-BAR BUCKA-BAW BUCKA-BERK BURKAH-BERK BERKA-BUCKEH BUCKA-BEKEH BUCKA-BURKEH BUCK-BUCKA BIKIBIKI, BUCK-BUCKA BIKIBIKI, BUCK-BUCKA BIKIBIKI, BUCK-BUCKA BIKIBIKI, BUCK-BUCKA BIKIBIKI, BUCK-BUCKA BIKIBIKI, Buck HEY! buck HEY! buckabickibickeh!
Dungdagadigadigadung-deh! BadadungbadadungbadaDUNGDRANGBRANGBRANG Dangdagadangdagadangdang, da BRLRLRLR BRRBRLRRLLR BBBRLRLRLRLR BRLRLRLLR-(BUUUH!)
Dungagadagadagadung-deh!
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>>149635832
NOW YOU'RE TALKIN! BUK BUK BUKAW!
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>>149634946
Classic Scourge
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>>149634946
Amy mistaking the guy in the Sonic costume for the real thing and glomping him onstage.
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>>149636003
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>>149635667
Pretty funny indeed.
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>>149634946
"OH! MY GOD!" Fiona Fox version http://m.imgur.com/gI140Sq
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>>149635925
CASSIA IS NOT FOR LEWD!

Clove is fair game though
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>>149636003
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>>149635459
sorry man. You gotta pay up if you want to download those files :^) No MEGA upload for you.
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>>149636003
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>>149636003
>someone actually took the time to type all this shit
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Who else decided to spend money on this game for the first time to unlock Classic Sonic and Green Hill Zone?

Better than wasting money on Sonic Runners for shit
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>>149635459
Easy way to download the images is to click on them and then right click, copy image url.
Then paste in new tab.
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>>149633564
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>>149637090
Me. I guess ever since that Red Ring sale or something they did awhile ago they decided to just use actual money instead of Red Rings to buy characters now.
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>>149637090
I refuse to give money to free2play stuff.
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>>149637090
I have ygopro, not sure I've got enough memory left for this game and it's expensive money buys, perhaps when they give us ways to get espio without dropping coinage on him.
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>>149637090
At least Runners got me entertained more time, I played Dash a lot to get Amy, and look at her panties but then I got bored and never touched it again.
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>>149637115
Not so easy to download Madeons "CHECKPOINT" or any other special tracks from the 26 Anniv. I need a MEGA and someone out there has it. Will dump some art (non lewds) if someone procures the link to MEGA that has all the files in the USB.
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>>149637541
I am surprised that they let Cream show her undies.

Sega is making us Lolicons playing as her.

(Rouge is the most expensive along with Cream Why though? Sex appeal. Believe it!)
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We all burnt out from too much fast or something?
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>>149637090
Why all the hate for runners? It's fun. I've heard some people's phones don't run it well? Mine's always run fine.
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Omega by himself, Rouge dragging Amy wither her because Shadow and Knuckles need to learn to get along without resorting to punching each other. I like how this arc is shaping up, meanwhile on Sonic's side of things, they're getting fucked, the sky patrol has been shot down, Sonic's falling towards Lava, Nicole is being overclocked at match speed,Tails is getting more nightmare fuel from the Tails Doll, the gaia keys and emeralds have been stolen from the acorn kingdom thanks to a collaboration attack by hired guns, Team hooligan and doctor eggman's forces leaving the ruler of the kingdom and gizoid, Gemerl in bad shape.Oh, yeah, SIlver,Gold and Doctor Scratch and Sniff have been flung through time with no indication of where or when they'll end up. I kinda want Jet to ride in on his extreme gear and catch Sonic as last i checked the overgrown chicken in the pirate hate had some sort of score to settle with them. As for Silver and his team, who have yet to be given a name, I'm gonna assume they'll land in Blaze's nic of the woods as the plate's kinda stacked in Sonic's time at the moment, too bad Blaze' is the only helpful one in her world and like Silver she has no team unless Ian wants to give her somebody of his own like with Silver and his Gold waifu.
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>>149638342
I think we've discussed about everything relating to the party and announcements, it's also a weekday.
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>>149638315
Next sonic will be even taller. I do feel like Adventure era sonic would fit RIGHT between classic and Modern in height though.
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>>149638534
this is cropped isn't it?
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>>149638725
It's always cropped.
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>>149638534
uce?
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>>149638850
do you have sauce?
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>>149638936
It's MarTheDog
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>>149637090
A worthy purchase.
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>>149639123
dat's lood
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>>149637090
>android logo sonic
Will never not be funny.
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>>149638535
Adventure to Unleashed Sonic jumped around in size a lot.

SA1 the in-game model looked more like Classic Sonic with green eyes than Uekawa's art. SA2 was probably the game where the characters in 3D looked the most like the 2D depictions. Then they jumped around in size a bit until we got the current look in Unleashed, which is basically a higher definition Adventure model.
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>>149638832
I friggin' hate her Sonic Dash run animation. I feel like it was made by someone who either doesn't like amy or doesn't take her even a bit seriously. Ain't she super fast? Why does she run like she's 4?
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>>149638442
>As for Silver and his team, who have yet to be given a name,
I've been hearing two names thrown around: Team Psychic, and Team Future. Team Future's the more common one I hear
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>>149639927
>Ain't she super fast?
No.
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>>149633495
Johnny Test
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>>149639619
Is android sonic canon?
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>>149639971
whipcrack
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>>149639971

I suppose Ratchet could work
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>>149639956
She's a speed character in most games. I mean granted she's not SONIC level fast, but among the main 4 she's probably close to their speed at LEAST.
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>>149639927
>Amy
>Super Fast
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>>149638832
She really runs like spongebob.
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>>149640002
No, and neither is Tails' Steve Jobs costume.
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>>149639971
Didn't see that coming.
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>>149639971
Have a taste of my Power Poots!
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>>149639956
>>149640197
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>>149640419
STOP THIS
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>>149640520
>Wikia
Dowsing kek
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>>149640565
Can't stop.
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>>149640520
Yeah, no. She's not very fast, anon. Not a super slowpoke, but her speed should not be considered super fast.
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>>149640419
why
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>>149636324
If Clove is fair game then Why can't Cassia join the fun after hours?
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>>149639971
>>149640087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hxIi8j3QR0
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If Amy isn't super fast, then why does Sonic have such a hard time getting away from her? What, does HE not have super speed too?
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>>149641071
She's a master of disguise/using her hammer to move long distances.
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>>149640520
If true, then the bar for having super speed in Sonic is way too low.
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>>149641071
He just has bad luck and they always end up crossing paths.
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>>149641071
He zips away from her all the time anon, he can mach 1
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>>149640667
tfw dowsing is official [ダウジング (Dowsing)]
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>>149641206
Cream the Rabbit can move at super speed. So can Big. Big the Cat can not only do a Spin Attack, but he can also Homing Attack. Anyone not named Vanilla, Marine, or Eggman has some super ability.
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>>149640828
Clove has the body for it and Cassia has a bedtime
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>>149641464
Wikia says Big has "enhanced speed" not super. Don't know where they're getting this information from.
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>>149641464
Yeah she not only as fast as sonic. She's also one of the strongest characters in the entire series, with Cheese she can destroy Eggman's Giant Mechs effortlessly from yards away, I don't know why they write her as such a weak baby girl she's a heavy hitter

kek
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>>149626743
Not bad; not particularly good either. It's very rudimentary, which, when it comes to fanfiction is sometimes more than you'd expect. Nothing strikes me as particularly cringey; often that comes with poorly structured writing, which I wouldn't call this. It isn't very dynamic though. Most of the sentences are basically the same length and follow a similar rhythm. But this is also only a small bit of writing, so I can't say too much.

There are also some technical issues I'd correct, but I'm not sure if that's feedback you're interested in.

Overall, the writing style doesn't immediately put me off. You could carry a competent story with this level of writing; whether I'd read the rest depends on if the plot interests me.
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Kinda weird how we have active moderation here, I come from a general that half of the week is full of shitpost and no one do anything about it.
>>149641456
But I don't know japanese ;_;
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Is anyone other then me getting tired of Mike Pollock's voicing Dr.Eggman?

I dunno. He just sounds bland as him like almost all the other works he has done in anime.

I hope he resigns in 2018 as new wave of voice actors replace the current slot of Sonic cast.

(The Japanese Dubbing however can be kept the same. Shame about DR.E's Jap voice. He will be missed. I considered him the better voice for Dr.E out of any (except SATAM"s Robotnik.)
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>>149641071
IIRC, in the backstory of Sonic CD, Amy found out through her deck of tarot cards that she was destined to meet Sonic at the Little Planet. If I had to guess, she's still using them to find out where he's going to be even before he knows that.
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>>149642170
Most of what we've heard him in recently is Boom, which has a certain level of blandness to everyone because it's basically a sitcom, and Pontaff games which don't exactly inspire effort on an actor's part. That said, I think he's still given some great performances, so I disagree.
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>>149642170

out
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>>149642156
What general is anon, so I can give you shit for going there
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>>149641679
She could always sneak out without her sister knowing.
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>>149642170
You're probably in the minority. I'm pretty much fine with the current cast. Plus, I'd like to keep a consistent VA cast to avoid more pointless VA wars.
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>>149641071
Amy has a fucking 6th sense: a Sonic sense if you will.
>>149642170
The thing is that Pollock's lately been given the same kind of scripts that don't allow for much range. I know how you feel, because I feel that way about Smith's Sonic, but if they got some better voice direction I think we could get something amazing
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I think they might be making Sticks a main series character. They added her to the Rio game, gave her a character profile on "Sonic Channel", and gave her wallpapers.
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>>149642395
Were you expecting utg or 5N@F? too bad! it's actually amateur dev general
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>>149642689
I kinda hope not. I'd rather they bring back other older characters than her.
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>>149642728

get a load of this nerd
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>>149640520
>nobody mentions the GRINDING

good job you guys. I'm proud of you.
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>>149642728
Nerd
Do you have a game in the works, or do you just play the free demos
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>>149640520
How is driving skill an important feature?
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>>149642848
it's almost as common as the spin jump
also some people seem to hate grinding on some games
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>>149642959
That one time she drove a car in Sonic R. I don't think it's an important feature wikia does.
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>>149640316
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2041 The year of our lord. Sonic/Sega will have reached its end with Sonic Climax.

When this day has arrived. The game will be holographic as TV/PC/Consoles were a thing in the past and now Light Screened technology anyone can play with a small simple device as the controller is the players hands acting as input.

Climax is the culmenation of all 50 years of Sonic put into 3 Terrabytes of gaming ranging from Classic to Modern.

Sega will merge into Nintendo as AtlusXNintendoXSega is formed. Otherwise known as NSA.

I am from a future you have not been to yet. It may or may not happen. But what will you do when Sonic is gone and its prodigy is surpassed onto a successor? Will you be 60+ Like I am or will you be off this face of the earth due to Human kind's need of mass violence and destruction?
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>>149642689
I think she's cute and I hope she sticks around. That being said, Nack seriously needs to come back soon.
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>>149642910
I'm making a generic platformer at the time, but I hope I can make a speed based game in the future
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>>149643309
>Sonic 50 anniversary will be in your lifetime
You got me hyped there.
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>>149642728
that's why I left /agdg/
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>>149642689
I'm completely fine with that.
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>>149631927
I think I'm just going to get one of those old TV and emulate there with the wii or something, because it seems like all of these new retro machines work like shit.
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>>149643340
Good luck with that anon
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>>149643874
Post the animated version
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>>149643874
Fuck. Now I remember Summer Time Lovin. LOVIN IN THE SUMMERTIME. And I can't get it out of my fucking head.
Birthday on the 30th on a Saturday. Going to have me a free steak at Finley's This is a great week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJKDaIUYt6g
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>>149641071
He slows down to intentionally tease her. That's just how hedgehogs flirt.
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>>149642689
Do you think they'd change her personality for main series games. Since she's kinda made to be gag oriented, they'd probably just make her a paranoid jungle girl and leave it at that.
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>>149643139
>still thinks I'm talking about grinding rails


never change /sthg/
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>>149645063
i know what you meant
i just didn't wanted to go down that type of conversation, not yet
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>>149644791
I feel like they'd tone her down a little for the main series. Judging by the Rio game acts like a jungle girl, not as calm/casual as the rest of the cast.
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>>149642848
I guess Amy's not good at grinding. No wonder sonic's not into her. All the panty shots in the world mean nothing if you can't back that thing up.
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>>149645453
but its like 2am anon, it's the only time to talk about amy's skillset involving rail grinding.

>>149645572
I think it's more that amy is too much for him to handle so he has to escape to save himself. Then when he's recovered he lets her 'catch' him and they keep playing the game. He likes running from her and she likes chasing. It's a game they play so he can maintain his cool and composed dude image in front of his buds. But secretly she has his wrapped around her little finger.
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>>149643526
>>149642728
Get back to work, silly nodevs. Don't you even think about slacking off now.
I should follow my own advice.
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>>149645740
okay okay, put a topic of conversation and i'll follow
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>>149645572
Man, just what is the deal with Amy. I look at her and can't find anything that could possibly sexualize her or make her attractive/appealing. There's nothing. Is that just a furry thing or something? I don't get a boner looking at her like some of you guys.

Princess Sally or Julie-Su though, okay now you might be onto something...
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>>149646084
Google "Amy Rose Rail Grinding"
Happy Vomiting
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>>149646161
>Julie Su
Is it the lack of pants or the fact that she'd probably be obsessive over you?
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some fanart
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>>149646161
She's really cute. That and she would make a great wife if she was in love with you.
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>>149646292
OH GOD THEY BLEW HIS HEAD OFF.
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>>149635925
That vulva is a bit too puffy.
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>>149646212
i'm slightly disgusted, but i'm too unsensitized to do something like that
>>149646407
exactly my toughts
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>>149646248
I get the same vibe from her as I do from Blake from RWBY. I don't know if it's the outcast thing or the keep-to-herself hard-to-get deal, not sure what. It's like a soft tsundere thing. Amy would be way too naggy and loud. I feel like Julie Su/Blake would be more chill but they'd still have the right amount of attitude to be fun. They also have a grace about them that Amy or Ruby wished they had.

Could also be the designs. Julie-Su just looks so cool with her cyborg parts.
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>>149640904
190

>>149645572
>back that thing up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swt9RvFEEr0
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>>149647207
loood
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>>149646683
It's too bad it seems like nobody had any desire to develop Julie's character into anything at all, interesting or not, even when Penders was still around. There was this build-up with her backstory that gave her enough potential, but she just ended up being a doorstop at every opportunity instead.

I thought she was pretty and tsun too, anon. I wanted to see her become Grandmaster.
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I want to buy some decent quality Sonic merchandise, preferably under $50. Statues, plush, weird stuff, it doesn't matter. All I have now are some old plushies from the Sonic adventure era and a Nendoroid that's probably a bootleg (looks legit but I got it off ebay for $10 from someone in Russia). Does anyone have any recommendations?
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>>149648496
The Sonic plushes from Great Eastern are pretty good quality. Decent range of characters too.
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>>149646683
>Julie-Su
>chill

Have you read the stories she's been in?
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>>149603027
Well that's a shame, least it was good to know that it was good at the beginning. Bless the man, couldn't imagine having to fix all the stuff live.
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>>149618248
Awww, look at that face of pure gratefulness. He loves us and we lovw him.
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>>149628182
How so?
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>>149626781
Sonic should stop cheating on his girlfriend Miku
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>>149651262
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>>149651262
Got any art of those 2 together?
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Late night amy drawings to test my surface tablet. Also i haven't drawn much amy upskirt and. thread kinda made me want to.

..
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>>149651376
>>149651262
>>149651337
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>>149651262
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>>149651692
>>149651693
Within seconds
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>>149651693
oh boi, this is ankward
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>>149651692
>>149651693
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>>149651578
I like upskirt amy
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>>149651262
>>149651376
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>>149651262
I bet if they did another All-Stars Racing, Kitty would get in before Miku.
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>>149651987
that's because they don't want to ruin their only money making IP :^)
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>>149651987
sanrio money is something to be scared of
what you're saying here might be a real possibility
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I wonder what happened to Chris-Ch-

>24 July: Chris gets an open, bleeding wound on his groin and thinks it means the hypnosis videos he’s been watching worked and he’s growing female genitals.


Holy fucking Shit i'm going to vomit.
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>>149652293
Stop giving him attention
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>>149652293
>Talking about it
get out and don't come back
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>>149651376
There's a shit ton of it actually
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>>149652167
Hello Kitty is on everything imaginable. It's amazing
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>>149652167
Sanrio?
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>>149652643
Her franchise is strong
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>>149652643
>>149652748
and a bit scary since they have been able to keep her around for decades
>>149652660
the owners of hello kitty alongside other franchises/characters
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>>149652748
Angry Kitty reminds me too much of TGT's Kitty.
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>>149635927
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>>149598441
Is it too late to say happy birthday to you fageronis?

Love you assholes
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>we're getting a GOAT as fuck 2D sonic game and a fun as fuck boost game with a retardedly edgy plot like the dreamcast era

Literally the best of all worlds
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>>149653049
nice
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>>149653049
I like where this is going
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>>149647993
>There was this build-up with her backstory

You mean the one she never reacted to or thought about? The one that was just a contrived way of making her related to the villains because Penders required all of these characters to be branches of the same goddamn tree for some reason?

This was a love interest who existed to be a love interest. Her only reason for pursuing Knuckles came down to a "lol I dunno" sixth sense with zero personal motivation or personality involved.
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>>149653085
It's never to late, same for me. Happy birthday /sthg/
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>>149651578
That's a nice image to go to bed with.
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Did we already storytime Panic in the Sky?
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>>149653871
yup
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>>149653382
And now we wait
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>>149635415
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>>149646161
Sounds to me you just have shitty taste.
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>>149654998
Looks great anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Frwi9mE5o
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>>149653593
That's what I mean, yeah. She could have been a much more interesting character if she was actually treated as one to begin with. Having her backstory sitting behind that stuff just made it all look really dumb.
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>>149656335

Sonic Universe #55 9,239
Sonic Universe #56 9,253
Sonic Universe #57 8,874
Sonic Universe #58 8,433
Sonic Universe #59 8,123
Sonic Universe #60 7,902
Sonic Universe #61 7,715
Sonic Universe #62 7,927
Sonic Universe #63 7,507
Sonic Universe #64 7,423
Sonic Universe #65 7,664
Sonic Universe #66 7,657
Sonic Universe #67 7,571
Sonic Universe #68 7,438
Sonic Universe #69 7,378
Sonic Universe #70 7,161
Sonic Universe #71 6,998
Sonic Universe #72 6,741
Sonic Universe #73 6,366
Sonic Universe #74 6,456
Sonic Universe #75 11,618
Sonic Universe #76 8,657
Sonic Universe #77 8,689
Sonic Universe #78 9,177
Sonic Universe #79 7,206
Sonic Universe #80 6,854
Sonic Universe #81 6,545
Sonic Universe #82 6,273
Sonic Universe #83 6,045
Sonic Universe #84 5,845
Sonic Universe #85 5,870
Sonic Universe #86 5,724
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>>149656335
what does this mean?
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>>149656717
Direct sales keep dropping.
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>>149656335
Probably under 5k
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>>149656717
Sonnalyfags keep committing sudoku.
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>>149656767
>>149657767
the comics will die altogether if keeps going like this?
i'm sorry to hear that but, i always sticked to the games; so i don't feel as attached to those
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>>149657767
What a glorious time to be alive.
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Today's the last day for Runners' servers being up. Time to remember both the good and bad things that this game had to offer.
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>>149656335
I don't know who is worse; sega for barely mentioning the comic exists or archie for being so god damn incompetent in running it.

Let's just hope things pick up after we get out of this unleashed hell hole.
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>>149656335
>>149656413
To be fair, direct sales don't mean much these days.
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>>149658358
Any good place to get a good look at their butthurt?
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>>149660129
Stadium :^)
don't worry you'll be more triggered than they are if you go there
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>>149660197
Can't be worse than the time I found out about pokemon fand giving pseudo official names to all pairings.
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>>149658739
-Ran pretty decent (for me anyway)with simple but understandable controls
-The buddies referenced a lot of cool old or obscure sonic and sega characters.
-Felt fast in a way that it relied on your skill/ability to dodge oncoming items.
-Lots of characters, including classic Sonic and Sticks the Badger.
Really it's a damn shame that the app team handled it so poorly. I feel like this should have been THE sonic app. Instead, temple run clone survived.
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>>149635840
Can't you tell Media to zip it all for you, or at least each folder, and give you a download link? I thought you could.
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>>149656335
>>149656413
What happened in the issues that made the sales number spike? Do all the possible buyers follow what happens in the comic so closely as to make the sales number spike such a big percentage depending on what happes?
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>>149660868
The delays hit the comic pretty damn hard I'm sure.
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>>149660868
Milestone 25x issues.
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>>149656335
>>149656413
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>>149632818
>roboticized
She was cyborgified
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>>149633495
Jaleel White, because he was based on the original Metal Sonic, and Metal Sonic traditionally has the same voice actor as Sonic, so a Metal Sonic based on Classic Sonic would have Jaleel's voice.
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>>149633678
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>>149642170
I actually agree with you. I think it's nice that he's as involved as he is with the fanbase and the franchise, but he sounds too much the same in everything he does and seems better fit for a "lol randumb" role like Boom Eggman.

Having said that, as long as you give me the option to listen to the Jap cast then you won hear me complaining, as I only started listening to the English voices because of the Boom show not airing in Japan at the time. Btw, did it ever air in Japan?
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>>149662960
Man, that actual part was one of the best moments of Worlds Unite
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls-6SYqq-Zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOG5Qo_EPrE

Why does this sound like it's from the hottest anime of the season?
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>>149665794
something like a racing related anime? would make sense
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>>149652293
>yfw Chris-Chan will most likely be dead by the end of the year
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>>149641802
Did you miss Cream beating the shit out of Emerl in Sonic X? She even spiked him. To bad that was the only time Cream fought. Just like the Chaotix only fight being a bunch of stills of them attacking the metalrix
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>>149666685
I don't even remember Emerl being in X.
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is Charmy Bee anybodies favourite character?
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>>149666685
I don't remember Sonic X being canon to the games.
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>>149641802
She's a six year old and Sega decides to make her one of the few characters that act their age.

>>149667319
It isn't but she may have done that in Sonic battle.
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>>149656335
>>149656413
What constitutes direct sales? Is it only off-the-rack sales, or are subscriptions also included? I'm assuming digital sales aren't either.

I'm also curious to know what effect Archie's horrid trade printing schedule has had.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-26-nx-is-a-portable-console-with-detachable-controllers
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>>149641071
Amy never relents. Sonic can run, but he can't hide for long.
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>>149668126
I saw that on twitter and thought it was a bogus link or something.

so their new console isnt their main one is a hand-held. explains no sonic 2017 on it.

looks like their trying to compete with phones then.
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>>149668126
>more gimmick shit

>>149668761
2017 teaser had the NX logo
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>>149668839
>gimmick shit
This is an incredibly good thing, what's the downside to it?
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>>149668839
my mistake, I must've been mixing it up with the WiiU
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>>149668895
The gimmicks are neat at first but quickly lose appeal. The wagglan was frustrating as fuck, the dual screens on WiiU are useless, and the gyro controls were shit (except on Splatoon surprisingly).
Gimmicks also scare away third-party developers because they know they will have to make their game work around them. Doesn't help that nintendo consoles are underpowered compared to Sony/Microsoft consoles, probably because budget wasted on stupid gimmicks.
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>>149669394
You're not getting it though, this one in particular is actually really smart.

Also the DS having two screens worked really well and made the Wii sell like water.
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>>149669482
I don't trust nintendo anymore to make smart decisions. And I don't agree about the DS screens. 3DS games run and look like ass because of the tiny resolutions while Vita games usually run and look great.
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>>149668126
No, no, please don't do this to me after all the hype. I don't care for the stupid console but I really wouldn't want this shit to hold the Project 2017 game behind. Perhaps they're gonna release a mobile version as well as a console version like they always used to do?
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>>149641975
Thank you for the feedback! I did notice that my sentences were similar in length, and while I tried to fix it, it looks like I have more work to do.

I'm interested in all sorts of feedback, so I'd be happy to hear the feedback on technicalities.
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>>149668126
I'm just gonna wait until the reveal later this year.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RjgHJSZjko
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>>149669725
Maybe SEGA isn't done with Dimps?
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>>149667247
>>149667319
>>149667661
There was a very brief tournament arc of Sonic X that had Emerl in it, but absolutely nothing else from Battle.

>>149669394
>the dual screens on WiiU are useless

Not if you have to share a TV with other people. Then it's a godsend.
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>>149668126
>Cartridges
Excellent

>On the go console with TV output
This was expected so I'm happy

>Bookended controller
Like a sideways DS?

>Tegra cpu
Isnt this weak as fuck? Doesn't the vita have one?
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>>149669725
>>149669710
>>149670390

Third partys have apparently been praising it recently so we'll just have to see.
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>>149654998
Awesome man.
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>>149668126
Why can't they just make a normal console? also if it doesn't have a cd/dvd/bd player it would lose a lot of points, the other new consoles practically works as home theaters now, and that really helps with the sales and the big public.
>>149669725
I hope they hire another company to do the port or something
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>>149653382
I wouldn't call it retardedly edgy like Shadow The Hedgehog. Judging by the trailer it might have a standard sonic-like plot line revolving around eggman only.
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>Sonic was never edgy or dark
Someone here didn't play the classics
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I've been gone for a while.

Are we back to /slow/ now?
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>>149671932
Honestly, going by the trailer, the only thing that's really separating it from Shadow is the lack of guns

Sonic even has a full snarl face going on
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>>149671616
>I hope they hire another company to do the port or something
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>>149672360
>Classic
>Edgy
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>>149672564
Angel Island zone
Sandopolis ghosts
Scrap Brain Zone
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>>149672373
tbf it also didnt have an edgy rock.
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Is there like a offline version of Sonic Runners out there? I really do like this game and the damn good Soundtrack
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>>149668126
https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/757946786162020352

well shit.
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>>149672758
This is the mix from the party? We can finally hear it without the buzz!
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sonic 2017

>has classic Sonic
>properly has the boost
>has a dark story, with maybe more characters

that feeling when you realise its going to be a fusion of all three eras. perfect for the 25th26th year.
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>>149672985
Wat
What the fuck is that
There's no way the Project 2017 game is for that thing, r-right? Does this mean there are gonna be 3 games for 2017?
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>>149673092

>Boom Sonic joins as the comic relief, not taking anything seriously
>Boom Eggman saves the day
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>>149672360
>Sonic can't be dark and edgy or be serious

This is why most recent games suck. There are no stakes besides 'lol stop dat robotnik'. The classics had some degree of seriousness in them and that made playing them all the better. I just want a damn story arc instead of episodic 'everything resets' comedy bull.
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>>149673092
>Even heroes need help

More playable characters confirmed.
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>>149673239
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>>149672985
It looks like a tablet.
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>>149673331
I had a terrible thought the other day

what if modern Sonic is the only playable character, other characters appear as none-playable assistants. like the missions in generations.
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>>149658810
Both of those don't help. Honestly, you would think after how fucking well Mega Drive did after both companies pushed it so hard, they'd continue to do it, especially Sega as a "Hey, while you guys are waiting for Mania and 2017, check out the comics!" but nope
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>>149656335
Game announcement will save the c-comics!
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>>149672985
What was the point to make a new console if it's just a wii u 2.
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>>149673714
Archie not being an absolute garbage company would do that and more
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>>149673768
to get a better name
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>>149673791
Maybe the comics need to die.
So they can be reborn.
Evolved, but untamed!
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>>149673939
They probably wouldn't come back.
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>>149656335
>>149656413
Hold on a second: aren't these Comichron numbers, who use Diamon distributors to get their figures? And isn't Archie one of the only companies not to use Diamond?
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>>149673551
Mega Drive was easier to push since it was all game characters.
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>>149673939
But they already had like two reboots.
Also do they release them outside USA?
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>>149651578
Do you do commissions?
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>>149673791
>>149673939
>>149674097
Perhaps the comics would be saved by Archie being completely absorbed by another company (e.g. IDW or Boom!)? Since Sonic is by far Archie's highest seller, there's no way they'd actually sell their contract with Sega unless they knew they were doomed and that nobody would absorb them.
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>>149674280
It also needs to actually be advertised outside Archie's website.
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>>149674280
Most people at Archie do shit for IDW anyways plus we'd probably be able to get trades out on time for once, so sure, I wouldn't mind as long as there didn't have to be another reboot
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Let's end this;

http://www.strawpoll.me/10838252
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>>149674560
Archie was lucky to keep the SatAM characters around. They had to fight for them. If Sega was to give the license to IDW I doubt they'd be able to keep the series going. It'd be a completely new one.
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>>149674141
True. Not saying to push it as hard as Mega Drive. A simple "Oh by the way this issue came out today go check it out" from the Twitter would be fine
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>>149674614
I do like the hedgehog trio but classic just edges by.
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>>149674678
Then maybe another reboot (This time giving it a renumbering) that's even closer to the games would be necessary. Honestly, even if it didn't move this would be the best option to keep the book alive. Quality doesn't mean shit if the book can't sell
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>>149674678
Im ok with the Satam characters but couldn't help feel their less needed with the game universe being much more expanded than it was.
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>>149673487
>tfw the hype and afterglow after the party is slowly banishing
>tfw the feeling that there's no way they can pull it off is taking over
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>>149674680
They sometimes mention it, either when a big event happens or when the focus is truly on game characters. Remember, they dropped the cover of the Knuckles/Amy Universe arc first.

I imagine the upcoming classic arc will get an ad, but to expect an ad for something like Spark of Life/Eggman's Dozen is probably unrealistic.
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>>149674845
Probably the worst idea I've ever heard.
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>>149672371
Kind of
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Doing something like this in the new games would probably help. It's how I was introduced to them.
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>>149675159
I agree on the renumbering.
Archie should have restarted it at one but they apparently had to have some stupid record.
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>>149674678
People keep saying this, but everything they do has to be approved by Sega these days so if it was that big a deal Sega would've put their foot down.
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>>149667289
Not mine.
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>>149673551
SEGA is never going to properly acknowledge them with the way they focus on comic exclusive characters. No matter how much people say the reboot is much closer to the games, it's not close enough and, while the story quality is fine most of the time, it is honestly a poor ad for the games and said universe.
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>>149675426
>that page in which Sonic enters a Sonic 2 spcial stage
>there's a Megadrive controller drawin in the page and a text that reads "help sonic get the rings with this controller"
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Here's how this is going to go.

We`re going to take a Sally.
Put her in a bowl
mix the FUCK out of her
and what do we get?

An award winning Princess Sally spin-off series.
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>>149675426
Me too. I fucking loved looking at the covers in Mega Collection.
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>>149641802
Cream is the only reason Advance 2 bosses crap design is bearable.
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>>149674845
That's the main problem, people who aren't into the comics don't care about the original characters, they just want those from the games, but the other people that are already into it don't want to lose them.
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>>149675556
If Sega wanted it to be an ad then Sega would be paying Archie, not the other way around.
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>>149675426
The extra content is part of what made Mega Collection and Gems Collection so special. Compilations used to be really fucking neat.
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>>149675567
>tfw Penders fucked this and the Knuckles series up so badly.
Couldn't he have at least focused on the character the book is about.
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>>149668126
I'm kinda curious. At least I'm not appalled the same way I was when the Wii U was revealed.
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>>149675521
Ian said it himself. I'm trying to find it, I believe it was on Bumbleking.
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>>149674098
Well, they obviously go through them in some fashion. Mega Drive is sold out at Diamond and getting a second reprint for them.

Still, I don't think it's a good sign when the numbers drop like that. I don't think it's just an anomaly on the Diamond side only.
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>>149675654
How do those eyes work?
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>>149675654
It makes me sad that people can't at least try it on the off chance that they might like it.
>>149676248
I've heard comics in general are down right now.
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>>149676165
I don't doubt he said it, but again Sega is actually keeping an eye on things so if they cared that badly then we wouldn't be getting the comics in their present form.
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>>149675159
Guess you want the comic to die then
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>>149675654
The amount of people you'd gain from making it 1:1 to the games, renumbering it, and making it 100% more accessible would more than make up for those who drop the book
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>>149675654
Not only original characters.
But like half of the main cast is from a 40 years old cartoon.
People don't want to pick up a Sonic comic for these characters.
They want characters they can recognize.
And this numbering stuff might turn people off too.
A new number would've been perfect to announce the reboot as something isolated that people can read despite never having touched the old issues.
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>at least I'll always have Amy
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>>149676709
You're making a strong assumption these people would give a shit about it either way.
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Daily reminder that Boom Knuckles is objectively a better character design
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>>149676763
Exactly. Cut out all the non game stuff, make it 1:1 with the games, give it a much looser continuity so it's even more accessible, reboot it, give it a new #1 and you're good. If the people working on the comic wanted to have it actually survive another year instead of dying a slow death they'd do this. But they can't bring themselves to make any sort of meaningful change
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>>149676709
That's basically what Megadrive is though. And while it was good and sold well, who knows if it can keep it up, let alone for 250+ issues. There's only so much you can take from the games. Also, 1:1 is boring. It's why a lot of people are bored with Unleashed. We already know how it ends.
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>dude let's make the comic infinitely more boring just so the sales can jump up for a couple of issues lmao
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>>149676709
>>149677173
The comic would get a bump in readers for about one year before the novelty wears off, then the comic tanks when people realize the games don't have enough support cast or subplots to run a monthly or bimonthly comic in an interesting way. Why bother reading the comics when you could just play the games?

And before you say "they should be ads for the games", Archie is the one paying Sega a licensing fee, Sega is not paying Archie an advertising fee.
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>>149677196
Mega Drive isn't an ongoing and is restricted to the classic characters. I'm talking about the current modern cast. You have more than enough to work with, especially if you play really fast and loose with continuity (Basically minimal continuity like "this happened after that at some point") so that each arc or hell, each issue is a good jumping on point
>>149677371
Better to rise for at least a bit than fall further. Besides, you're assuming this wouldn't work. Also the games have fuckhuge amounts of characters. And even if some are dead or unusable, you could just I dunno, bring them back? Pull a Return of Jafar with Erazor Djinn or some shit, make a clone of Maria, rebuild.Gamma I don't fucking know
>>149677196
The problem many had with Unleashed was that it wasn't close enough (Chip meeting Knuckles before Sonic, Werehog being feral etc.)
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>>149677664
>Also the games have fuckhuge amounts of characters
Not when you're talking about an ongoing twice-monthly comic. And besides, we're not just talking about characters, we're talking about plotlines. If the plots are 1:1 to the games then that brings up three problems. First is what do you do when the comics inevitably catch up to the games. Second is how do you flesh out the plot to one of the more basic games like the classic games, handheld games, Mania, etc. Finally, why bother reading the comics when you can just watch the game cutscenes on YouTube. Solving any of those problems means introducing original material, which means it's no longer 1:1 to the games.
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>>149677664
They DID bring back dead, unused characters, see: Nack, Mighty, Honey, Gemerl etc. Gamma came back for a short while. As for storybook characters, I think there are some restrictions on them from SEGA.
>Chip meeting Knuckles before Sonic
Literally what. No one had a problem with that. Chip interacting with characters he didn't get to meet in the game was cute and enjoyable. Unleashed wasn't close enough, but Megadrive is fine being completely different and new? Sounds like you just want to get rid of all comic characters and think that will somehow make the comic 1000x better.
I will say I think they may have made too many new characters and hope they dial that shit back. There is plenty of work with now.
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>>149677079
Sup Bizarro.
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>>149676165
I feel like I just saw a source for that not too long ago, and it was Jon as the source. I can't find it, though. I may have read it on the other chan.
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>>149676334
The comics industry has been dead for years. It's why Marvel and DC reboots keep happening sooner and sooner in desperate grabs for new readers, and why both companies are focusing most of their efforts on movies.
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>>149678101
Making them 1:1 to the games doesn't mean just ripping off the game plots. You can still do original plots, just only using the game cast, setting, and what have you. You don't have to introduce unfamiliar characters to tell an original story. Basically the kind of thing I think would save the comic is like Treasure Team Tango: purely game characters and a simple, self contained, original plot that has no real continuity
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>>149676165
>>149676412
>>149678786
I think, much like the mandates, we tend to overblow what "fighting for the Freedom Fighters" means, since we don't know the actual details.

From what I remember of the Ian post that hasn't yet been tracked down, he said they had to convince SEGA the FF were worth keeping. So it wasn't so much that SEGA was determined to get rid of them, more that they weren't sure they were necessary. It might not have even been a question of getting rid of them entirely, more the level of importance they have. Remember, the reboot details were being hashed out in the middle of the Pendering, so SoA would've been on high alert as far as maintaining mandates, whereas now things have leveled off a bit and the writers are being given more creative freedom.
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As someone who only started reading the comics from the reboot a couple of months ago, the main thing holding me back was the number count. Not knowing about the reboot and seeing 270 odd issues was pretty daunting and it was only when I started visiting /sthg/ that I actually dived in.

'Original characters' are not necessarily the problem but more how those characters are used. For example, Tails often feels completely redundant as his roles are performed better by others. Obviously that's a problem that might push people away.
Also, the comics use game characters we don't see anymore, like Nack, so that's a plus.

Suggesting that the comics should be 1:1 with the games is a fucking awful suggestion. Let's be honest, the stories in the games are not exactly good, so how would a comic version of them be any better? They wouldn't and already knowing everything that is going to happen makes it completely pointless.

They should have reset the number count at the reboot. I get why they didn't, hoping to continue selling back issues or whatever the case was, but the higher it gets the less likely people are to jump in.

Right now, I just want this Unleashed story over. I feel like that after a few months, I hate to imagine what I'd feel if I'd been reading it as long as the rest of you have. Maybe when it ends they can do some number fuckery and make a big deal about a new story to get people back and new people in.

Of course, being new to the comic I have less say in the subject than those who have been reading it all these years. So whatever.
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>>149678556
Tons of people had problems with that. I remember both Bumbleking and Sonic Stadium going apeshit over it. Sonic Stadium still does now and again.
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>>149679469
I feel like people are missing the point of the "1:1 to the games" thing. It doesn't mean "literally adapt the games", it means "have the exact characterization, characters, and settings one would See in the games and tell original stories just with those and have a very light, almost nonexistent continuity"
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>>149679824
>exact characterization
>dickass Tails
>retard Knuckles
>stalker Amy
>edgelord Shadow
>unthreatening Eggman
Great idea
>setting
This is basically they have now outside of Sally's kingdom and the ocean kingdoms
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>>149679469
A lot of people, including myself, have been saying for months now that Ian needs to stop with the fucking world building already. If he can't balance out world building with characterization and decent storytelling then he should only do it when it only seems natural or when it comes in handy for a plot point.

The biggest reason why the Unleashed arc feels so dragged out and long is because Ian hasn't stopped for more than a single issue at a time from worldbuilding and as such every fucking issue feels the exact same just with a different character.

Your problem with Tails is justified completely especially considering the fact that the one queue in we even got from him and how he interacts with other FFs was that Bunny backstory we got a month or two ago and even that whole thing caused a bunch of shenanigans and shit to the point where the only justifiable thing to say now is that there is no clear timeline.

Ian just really needs to stop worldbuilding. He's been so hellbent on doing so the actual main cast has degraded to the point of almost complete incoherence.
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>>149679824
Why would you want "the exact characterization, characters, and settings one would see in the games" when a) the games can't get that straight most of the time, and b) what does exist is currently garbage?
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>>149680070
The Pontaff characterization don't even need to be used. "The games" don't just mean"Everything from Colors on", it means you can use their characterization a from the games they were actually good in. As for setting, if that's true, then just scratching both of those locations and anything not from the games shouldn't be too hard
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>>149680246
Because with a good writer you could actually do good things with it
>>149680106
This is why a another reboot should happen. With the game world you don't need worldbuilding or a tight continuity, just good characterization
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>>149679824
>"have the exact characterization
Considering their recent characterizations in games like Lost World, which are all over the fucking place, I don't want that at all.

What I'm imagining now is that once Unleashed ends, Sonic parts from the FF's for a while and does some travelling with Tails which satisfies the 1:1 concept. It probably won't be overly sustainable but it'll do for a while.
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I really dislike Sky Patrol and Sonic being part of the Freedom Fighters.
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>>149680426
>>149680479
>"The comics should be 1:1 with the games, except not 1:1 they should deviate how I want them to but not how anyone else wants them to."
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>>149680479
That's fine. Just remove all the non game stuff and you have the perfect set up for a game oriented comic.
>>149680593
They really don't need to be there.
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>>149680626
Not him but isn't that exactly what a writer does anyway? Especially writers in the Sonic franchise?
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>>149680274
Amy's has never been good and Shadow's hasn't been good since SA2.
>game settings only
Why not explore ideas that have never been used in the games, like an underwater society? The comics don't have to be ALL new material or ALL game material, why not a mix of both
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>>149680626
I feel like you're missing the point. In even simpler terms: game characters, game characterization, and game settings with original stories in that setting with very loose continuity
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>>149676984
that's the best
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>>149680791
Because there's enough you can do with what the games have already
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>>149680791
That's what they are right now, but that's not enough for some people.

I thought this might be a new person with these game only ideas, but we're starting to veer back into the recurrent baiting, so either he was more subtle this time or the shitposter showed up and hijacked the conversation.
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>>149680795
>game characters
Except when they're necessary to tell an original story, and don't pretend like they won't be.

>game characterization
Except for where you personally think the characterization is bad so let's throw that out.

>game settings
Same as game characters. The game world is not that well fleshed out.
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>>149680593
>>149680664
There's something about the FF that really bothers me but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.
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>>149680795
>>149680936
Do you not realize that original characters and settings exist because there's only so much Sega will let them do with existing games material?
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>>149680979
>Except for where you personally think the characterization is bad so let's throw that out.
I meant using their characterizations from games that actually got them right, and not shit like Chronicles or Lost World which ignored their previously established characterizations. You want a base for what they should be? Sonic Channel profiles. That's the root of their characters. All of them. Also, it's not like you really need a fleshed out setting for what would essentially be continuity lite self contained action stories (With the occasional character centric story every once in a while). There's a lot of fucking Sonic games with a lot of different levels and settings, and more than most people realize
>>149681132
Original characters being as important as Sonic? Sonic being tied to them constantly when he's a free spirit? Having non game characters be the main characters which should never be the case?
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>>149680593
Well, Sky Patrol got destroyed in the latest issue, so there's that.
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>>149681132
Something I don't like is that I don't understand why some of these members are friends with each other outside of association.
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>>149681548
Why are you posting that?
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>>149681548
What are you trying to pull here? new good paper mario game never ever
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>>149681287
>I meant using their characterizations from games that actually got them right
The thing is, that's exactly what they're doing.
The problem is that they're integrating these characters into a cast of characters that often outshine them, so to speak.
It tends to feel like the main cast are secondary characters in their own comic.

Like, Sonic isn't really the main character is he? Because it's all about Sally's Freedom Fighters and how smart is Sally for coming up with new plans and oh no Sally made a mistake how will Sally overcome this new challenge to help the Freedom Fighters succeed?

I have nothing against these characters, I just want to see less of them overall.
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>>149681735
>>149681754
Basically nix everybody in the comics who aren't the original game characters and all NPCS must be generic enemies and animals from the games. No more of these other trash.
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>>149681132
I'd prefer them to have less spotlight. Champions managed it well, they were on the sidelines and mostly there for reactions.
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>>149681869
Exactly
>>149681771
>It tends to feel like the main cast are secondary characters in their own comic.
Are you getting why the non-game characters need to be gone yet? Because this just sends it home. There's no fucking excuse that the main game characters should get sidelined for what are essentially canon foreigners. You wanna see them? There's always fan comics and whatever Archie Sonic Online is doing
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>>149681771
>>149681932
I waifu Sally and yeah, I can kinda agree with this. I don't want the FFs gone completely but they could have less spotlight in favor of game characters.
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>>149681771
You nailed it, anon.
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>>149682235
Should've had #StuffedNachos on the plate.
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>>149682117
But I don't want to read fan comics, I want to read what Ian is doing.

The Freedom Fighters don't need to be 'gone', because they can be good characters.
They just need to fuck off for a good while and the pecking order re-assessed.
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>>149682410
They can fuck off to fan comics then. The comics should be more accurate to the source material to draw in more fans, and making them a lot more like them with the same characters and settings with a very loose continuity would go a long way towards making them a lot better
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Archie could probably move the freedom fighters to sonic universe without much issue.
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>>149682759
They could probably remove them and reboot things with even less issue
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The comics need to become more like Sonic boom, I don't like the idea of Eggman having flesh and blood minions and actually being a threat nor do I like the idea of having to constantly switch to Silver's time or Blaze's dimension. The comic has Sonic's name it should be about him right?
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>>149682795
You mean, aside from pissing off the fans they already have with no guarantee of actually attracting enough new fans to replace them?
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>>149682235
Fucking great, this will come in handy. Funny that there is a Silver one, a Tails one, and I think one or two more, but there wasn't a Sonic one.
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>>149682821
Eggman's slaves, Silver, Blaze and other not-Sonic characters usually headline in Sonic Universe, which is the spin-off comic.
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>>149682574
But what makes you think fans who don't give a shit about the comics now would suddenly care about it later?

Mega Drive did well enough for a second printing, but I doubt it'd keep that success if it was a monthly release.

The fanbase is full of stubborn cunts and you're making wild assumptions about them.
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>>149682821

yeah man

also, fuck every zone that isn't Green Hill Zone
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>>149681771
>I have nothing against these characters, I just want to see less of them overall.
Pretty much my thoughts as well. They don't need to go away, but I'd like for them to step back for awhile.
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>>149682872
The amount of people that would likely be attracted to something with a shiny #1 and a more familiar setting and cast of characters would be worth it
>>149682994
Because that's exactly wha happened with Mega Drive. A more familiar cast of characters and a shiny #1 on the front made it the only Sonic comic to ever get a 2nd printing. And that was just with the small classic cast. If you have the entire modern cast you could at least get more stories and likely higher numbers
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>>149668126
Didn't Nintendo say they would release the portable version first with the home version coming later?
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>>149683140
>The amount of people that would likely be attracted to something with a shiny #1 and a more familiar setting and cast of characters would be worth it

And do you think the new readers would honestly stay interested in that long enough for it to really be worth telling the existing fans to kindly go fuck themselves?
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>>149683140
I think people are blowing up the second printing too much. Archie probably didn't print that many copies of Mega Drive in the first place.
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>>149683325
Yes. It'd also be much easier to advertise them since they'd be a lot closer to the games
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>>149682974
And yet in the main comic all I see is Sonic somewhat doing things while Tails is busy helping Nicole the ai by holding a red ring in a gameboy looking thing while Sally or some other freedom fighter advances the plot. The most offensive thing is Sonic lost to a bunch of fucking grunts last chapter. Game Sonic isn't this much of a chump. The main character shouldn't be jobbing to fucking grunts. It'd be like Mario losing to a gang of Koopa Troopas
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>>149683140

Mega Drive is a novelty comic.

As soon as you make it a monthly comic without Hesse's artwork sales will drop like a motherfucker.

also meme man promoted it a bit, which probably helped
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>>149683408
They lost for the sake of plot anon.
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>>149683408
And this shit is why the non game shit needs to fucking GO and stay gone. You like it? Too bad, it's not needed and is the reason the comic isn't liked outside of here. That and the strict continuity which the games don't have and doesn't need to exist. The most continuity that should exist is "This happened before/after this at some point" and all stories should be able to be standalone
>>149683434
Then make Mega Drive quarterly and change the main two comics to be more like the games
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>>149682304
kek

>>149682929
We have 2 Sonic's, Tails, Silver, and Sally ones
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>>149683408

Sonic and co. were outsmarted.

There's still 3 more parts in the arc that ultimately ends with Sonic kicking in Dark Gaia's shit and fixing the planet.
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>>149683647
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>>149683383
Newsflash, bub: the kind of people who get attracted to a comic because of a shiny #1 issue and familiar characters are flighty enough that they tend not to stick around past #2, regardless of the quality of the series.
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>>149683857
Even if sales drop, they'd still be higher than they are now, and that's what's important
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>>149683613
>Stop liking comics that I don't like!

>Make Mega Drive quarterly and then make the other two comics exactly like Mega Drive, which completely defeats the purpose!
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>>149683841
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>>149683613
>the comic isn't liked outside of here
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Why is Espio even in sonic generations, I forgot he even existed
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>>149683938
Nice baseless speculation from your ass.
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>>149683647
Didn't remember this one.
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>>149683938
You have no way of proving this; there's no way to even hypothesize that this would be true, and the state of the overall comic industry leads to a conclusion that this would not be true. At the very best sales would balance out to basically where they are now, so it would be pointless from a business perspective.
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>>149683992
>>Make Mega Drive quarterly and then make the other two comics exactly like Mega Drive, which completely defeats the purpose!
No, the other two would be Modern focused and be the following
>Main: Sonic and Tails running around the planet going on crazy adventures in some of the many zones the franchise has to offer. Very lighthearted, goofy, and fun
>Universe: If the side characters aren't needed in the main books, this is where everyone else shows up and it's very character centric, focusing a lot on their inner conflicts if they have them or otherwise them going on their own adventures
>>149684128
Familiarity is a guarenteed seller anon. Why do you think Batman sells higher than something like say a random new hero after all this time ? Because it's more familiar.
>>149684181
They'd likely only balance out after the same number of issues, but not by say, issue 10.
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>>149684051
>forgetting best ninja detective
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>>149684356
who?
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>>149684051
Espio is kinda cool, the one that I'm always forgetting about is mighty.
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>>149684664
he's not a character in generations though
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>>149684664
That's because Mighty isn't canon :D

No, but seriously, I doubt Sega could find any purpose for Mighty. Even in the comics, he shows up sparingly
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>>149684832
>Even in the comics, he shows up sparingly
Gotta make room for all those non game characters and settings!!!. Another reason those things should be gone
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isn't chaotix retconned somehow
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>let's only use the game stuff!
>even though Sega limits what we can do with them!
>which means it'll inevitably get boring and retarded!
>I sure love characters written by Pontaff!
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>>149685057
Yeah, Iizuka outright said it was retconned out with Heroes.
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>>149685381
>>which means it'll inevitably get boring and retarded!
Better than what it is now. There's still stuff you can do with the games cast without adding 20,000 fucking characters and backstories and shit.
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>>149685487
>stop liking what I don't like!
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>>149684008
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>>149685593
Are you out of arguments and just resorting to buzzwords at this point
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>>149683647
>boom sonic
>fast
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>>149677658
I WOULD do such things with her
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>>149685656
More arguments than you've presented.

>The comics should only be like the games because I personally say so!
>They'd sell more based on my speculation and inability to understand the current state of the comics industry!
>Mandates? What mandates?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12N5WfIgm6I&index=6&list=PLu5a9-aw8CA-z-2oMjddEihU1QASI1iv0&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D12N5WfIgm6I%26index%3D6%26list%3DPLu5a9-aw8CA-z-2oMjddEihU1QASI1iv0&has_verified=1

So this interpretation is canon, right?
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>>149684051
Who else would Sonic save from whited out Seaside Hill?
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>>149685816
it's as canon as chaotix
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>>149685829
Hermit crabs
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>>149685487
Wow. You have a major hate-boner for anything Sonic that wasn't in the games. Did someone in a Princess Sally costume touch you when you were a little kid or something?

>>149685829
Omega. You know, since he was the only character who was introduced in Heroes (not counting the Chaotix's re-introduction into canon due to the retconning of their game).
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>>149685829
Reverse Knuckles or whatever his name is
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>>149684404
No, that's an entirely different character altogether.
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>>149685796
No, they should be more like the games because that's what's familiar and it'd work better. Like it or not, Mega Drive sold a fuckton of copies and it was a lot closer to the games with no original characters and a new #1. Besides, a good writer can work within those mandates. Beieve if or not, you don't need to change much to actually do things with the games cast.
>>149685940
No, I can recognize what a Sonic comic should be, and what it shouldn't be is a comic where Sonic is a fucking secondary character to some canon foreigners
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>>149683260
I'm more thinking it's another way round
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>>149686000
Did they seriously name an owl "Who"?

That's the second dumbest thing I've ever seen after making the only panda an evil hologram or whatever instead of a cute girl
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>>149686140
Well, it's Harvey Who. But yeah, Who.
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>>149686023
>canon foreigners
Not exactly the right phrase. if you want to call someone a canon foreigner direct those terms towards Amy Rose and Charmy Bee, they debuted in a shitty manga nobody read.
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>>149686140
I think he was originally a character from the early pun-based humor comics. who then disappeared for 90% of the comic's run until Ian brought him back right before the reboot.
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>>149686254
You know what I mean. Someone who isn't primarily in the games
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>>149685940
People probably care more about Espio than Omega.
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>>149686364
Fucking fleshbags it ain't fair
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Hey happy birthday sthg, how is everyone?
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>>149686364
This saddens me, but you're absolutely right.

>>149686023
>>149686305
So, while we're at it, shall we also get rid of absolutely everyone from Marvel's comics that don't also appear in their more familiar-to-the-general-public movies, regardless of merit?
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>>149681771
>game characters outshine by Archie originals
You fucking what? The Archie characters have been routinely jobbing to game characters since the reboot began, who are then saved by guess who? The game characters. Either read the comic before posting or stop pulling shit from your ass.
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>>149686579
The birthday was yesterday, anon.
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>>149686023
>because that's what's familiar and it'd work better.
According to your personal opinion, backed up by nothing.
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>>149686586
>So, while we're at it, shall we also get rid of absolutely everyone from Marvel's comics that don't also appear in their more familiar-to-the-general-public movies, regardless of merit?
Isn't that what they're already doing?
>>149686671
Sonic shouldn't be taking orders from Sally, or anyone for that matter. He's a free spirit. The non game characters force his character to be butchered and should be gone
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>>149686798
Mega Drive says otherwise.
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>>149686935
>one single brand new shiny novelty comic
Refer back to the numerous posts stating you have no clue what the comics industry is like because they're all true.
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Who's the sexiest, cutest, strongest Sonic girl and why is it Blaze?
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>>149686801
>Sonic shouldn't be taking orders from Sally

If I recall there are moments where Sonic doesn't go along with Sally's plans, he does it in his own way and makes it work. I'd say he's still the same reckless and carefree hedgehog.
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>>149686671
Way to completely miss the point, anon.
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>>149687109
>Why is it not Blaze?*
FTFY.
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>>149687123
He's still tied to some organization/band/whatever that's actively organized and that's not Sonic at all. Sonic doesn't and shouldn't take orders from anyone. He does what he wants when he wants how he wants. That's what Sonic is and always will be about
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>>149686801
>Isn't that what they're already doing?

Nope. Marvel's still got Doctor Doom, half of the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, every single Spider-Man character that isn't Peter Parker and his Aunt May . . .

But I only used Marvel as an example because their movies are ridiculously popular among the general public. If you'd like, we could change the analogy to getting rid of every DC comics character who doesn't also appear in their popular-but-divisive-and-nowhere-near-as-popular-as-Marvel's movies (e.g. Booster Gold, Brainiac, Metallo, Green Lantern, etc.).
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>>149687267
>He's still tied to some organization/band/whatever that's actively organized and that's not Sonic at all.
Source: your ass.
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>>149687459
The Freedom Fighters are an organized group of rebels that Sonic's a part of. I thought you people red the comics
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>>149687267

maybe he wants to be with the FF currently because he wants to help fix the damn planet
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>>149687513
Wow, suburb job of reading comprehension there chief.
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>>149686579
Hey anon, thanks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gb_42k30YE
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>>149687518
He could just as easily do that on his own. Like he did in Sonic Unleashed
>>149687601
I did read it. How about you try for a better argument. You implied that my statement of Sonic not being part of some organized resistance was wrong, when it's actually right. He is part of an organized resistance and that is antithetical to who Sonic is
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>>149687513
And you're saying that, if he needed to do so to fight Eggman's tyranny, Sonic still wouldn't join up with the Freedom Fighters? That he wouldn't ever be able to accept that he is the Han Solo to their Rebel Alliance?
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>>149687513
The Freedom Fighters are a rag-tag collection of friends who happen to be working against the same villain. Sonic is a friend who happens to be working against the same villain. The only member who could be seen as actually taking orders is Antoine by virtue of him being an actual guardsman, and even then he's around by choice more than out of duty. Everyone else is around because they feel like it, and Sally is only the designated "leader" because the rest of them agree to let her plan stuff out. Nobody is taking orders.

>>149687750
Still a complete braindead lack of reading comprehension.
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How long until sonic replaces black dominos delivery guy
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You know I really hate this shitposter anon who's so advently against the comics.

Whenever he joins in the debate/conversation is immediately stunted and the side for the comics start to assume that the people this shitposter is agreeing with share his ideas and thus all logical debate stops.

Honestly if I didn't know any better I'd say this dude is a blatant false flagger. Unfortunately since this is the Sonic fandom we're talking about he more likely than not thinks he's helping and believes what he says.
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>>149687853
No. Because he doesn't need to and he knows it. Even if he did need help, he'd go to the following characters before these literally whos
>Tails
>Amy
>Knuckles
>Shadow
>Chaotix

>>149687915
>Still a complete braindead lack of reading comprehension.
>If I keep saying it maybe it'll be true!
>>149687915
>The Freedom Fighters are a rag-tag collection of friends who happen to be working against the same villain. Sonic is a friend who happens to be working against the same villain. The only member who could be seen as actually taking orders is Antoine by virtue of him being an actual guardsman, and even then he's around by choice more than out of duty. Everyone else is around because they feel like it, and Sally is only the designated "leader" because the rest of them agree to let her plan stuff out. Nobody is taking orders.
So Sonic isn't taking orders when Sally tells him to do a thing and he does so? He doesn't need to be part of this team at all regardless. He has other characters he could turn to, an worst case scenario, he does it himself
>>149688079
>It's shitposting if I disagree with it
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>>149687267
>He's still tied to some organization/band/whatever that's actively organized and that's not Sonic at all.
He's as tied to the Freedom Fighters as he was tied to the Knights of the Round Table in the second half of Black Knight, not to mention he's been part of a team for at least half a dozen games.

>>149688139
>Tails
>Amy
Already part of the team.

>Knuckles
Busy on Angel Island, unless you want to fuck over his character.

>Shadow
Busy with G.U.N., unless you want to fuck over his character.

>Chaotix
Busy doing their own detective work, unless you want to fuck over their characters.

Your own failed arguments highlight why the Freedom Fighters exist: allies that Sonic can work with without fucking over the characterization of other game characters.
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>>149688079
We all hate him, anon, we've been hating him for months now. All we can do is keep ignoring him until enough people have called the Swatbots on him.
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>>149688139
I actually believe that the comic does need a change in pace. Maybe not cast but certainly pace. It also needs more characterization but that's a big problem right now because of the share amount of characters we have because of the FFs. However I do not believe deleting them is the best option.

Please stop. You're just making yourself sound even more autistic.

Ian isn't the best writer I've seen but he certainly doesn't deserve your bullshit. He's a good man at least which is more than what I can say with most people.
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>>149688079
blogging about it isn't going to make it any better

If you really cared about the state of the thread you'd steer conversation into positive things
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I'm beginning to think this has less to do with original content in the comics and more about someone's hate boner for the FF.
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>>149687109
Funny way to spell [ not your waifu]
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>>149688469
You only now realized this?
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>>149688469
>look cool by putting your sticker upside down
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Can we all agree that, at the least, Archie need to do something about the numbering of issues?
Maybe, in fact, reset and go back to #1 at the start of the next arc?
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>>149688319
>Already part of the team.
And they don't need to be either. They're more than capable on their own
And even though the rest is true, if the situation was dire enough you bet your ass at least Shadow and Knuckles would get involved
And even then, my point still stands: he doesn't need to be involved with these literally whos since he can do this shit on his own most of the time
>>149688398
>I actually believe that the comic does need a change in pace. Maybe not cast but certainly pace. It also needs more characterization but that's a big problem right now because of the share amount of characters we have because of the FFs. However I do not believe deleting them is the best option.
Then you're wrong. Making them like the games would be better and make the average fan more interested in the comic since it wouldn't have such a high number and so many unfamiliar characters
Deleting the FFs and non game characters would allow for the game characters to actually shine and be more important
>>149688469
Nah, fuck the Egg Bosses too. Eggman would never be willing to share his glory, and he's not nearly competent enough to take over the world anyways. He'd also never let anyone but him and his robots fight Sonic
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>>149688079
I've said all I've needed to say in the conversation/debate about the whole comic thing. My involvement ending with agreeing with >>149681771
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>>149688469
>Playing nintendo
>looking cool
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>>149688469
>mary sue princess
>her computer girl friend
>generic couple
>gay bara walrus
What's not to hate?
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>>149688503

of course not

>>149688567

it's how the cool kids do it
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>>149688595
>He'd also never let anyone but him and his robots fight Sonic
I don't think you've ever played the games have you?
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>>149688595
>Nah, fuck the Egg Bosses too. Eggman would never be willing to share his glory,

Who says he's willing to share his glory? They're basically slaves with slightly more intelligence and free will than most of his robots. At the first sign of defiance, or whenever he gets bored, he will make them suffer.

>and he's not nearly competent enough to take over the world anyways.

So why not have the Egg Bosses around for extra help?

>He'd also never let anyone but him and his robots fight Sonic

Sonic Triple Trouble. He hired Fang.
Sonic Adventure. He unleashed Chaos..
Sonic Adventure 2. He unleashed Shadow.
Sonic Unleashed. He unleashed Dark Gaia.
Sonic Lost World. He enslaved the Deadly Six.

I could keep going.
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>>149688873
No he just has a raging hate boner for the FFs or is just trying to shitpost. Or is actually autistic.

There are many possible reasons for his faulty statements. None of them are good.
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>>149688873
>I don't think you've ever played the games have you?
Fine, also whatever mindless monster of the week he's controlling/trying to control that week. And Knuckles. Point is, Eggman doesn't need organic minions that overshadow him
>>149688926
>So why not have the Egg Bosses around for extra help?
Because he doesn't need it, and Eggman when written in character is too incompetent to take over the world even with help
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>>149688469
Kinda hard to appreciate it when it has 50 girls and they never get to focus the point on amy, rouge or any official female character in the game.
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>>149688581
There's no chance they'll not push to 300.

I think they should at some point, though. As more time goes on, that number is going to be more and more intimidating to new readers.
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>>149688595
Your ideas only limit what the comic can be about. Eggman has a giant space station, a massive fleet of warships, a never-ending supply of robot minions, and an ability to find more mystical and supernatural super-powered beings than all the archaeologists on the planet combined; why can't he be competent enough to try and take over the world? Eggman has used intermediaries as pawns numerous times, dating as far back as Sonic 3 and as recently as Lost World; why can't he keep doing the same? Why can't Sonic run into a threat he can't beat on his own? This isn't the games where you can just homing attack a thousand robots and call it a day. From a storyline perspective, that's boring.

Your arguments continue to boil down to "I don't like it and it should change because I said so" with absolutely nothing backing you up.
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>>149689057
They're literally doing that in the current Universe Arc right now.
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>>149689057
It's like you don't even read Universe.
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>>149689057
That's a non-issue since any character that isn't from the main trilogy is irrelevant and Sega KNOWS this.
Just look at Sonic Mania and "not Generations 2"
Sonic friends are to Sonic what the dark ages were to the comic.
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>>149689158
>Your ideas only limit what the comic can be about. Eggman has a giant space station, a massive fleet of warships, a never-ending supply of robot minions, and an ability to find more mystical and supernatural super-powered beings than all the archaeologists on the planet combined; why can't he be competent enough to try and take over the world? Eggman has used intermediaries as pawns numerous times, dating as far back as Sonic 3 and as recently as Lost World; why can't he keep doing the same? Why can't Sonic run into a threat he can't beat on his own? This isn't the games where you can just homing attack a thousand robots and call it a day.
But that's what should happen. Eggman has all of this but because of his own massive ego and shortsightedness he keeps losing regardless. He shouldn't be able to take over the world. He's not competent enough.

Also if Sonic runs into a threat he can't beat on his own, then he calls in Tails/Knuckles/Shadow/Amy/Literally anyone else you can give an excuse for to be there to help him?

Also he can keep having minions, just mindless ones or very simple ones like the Deadly Six and at the end of the day, they either betray him or he disposes of them
>>149689057
Exactly, so get rid of all the non game girls
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>>149689371
>That's a non-issue since any character that isn't from the main trilogy is irrelevant and Sega KNOWS this.
And with that load of bullshit it's time for a new thread.
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>>149687109
Cause she's the most capable female Sonic character, least game wise anyways.
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>>149689449
>the characters should be like this because I said so
Still no real argument here.
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>>149689556
No, they should be like this because they're like that in the games. Continue to ignore my real argument because you disagree with it though
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>>149689556
Just stop giving him (you)s already.
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>>149689612
>No, they should be like this because they're like that in the games
But they actually aren't like that in the games, so you're still wrong. Eggman has been a major threat numerous times. Sonic has been helped by other characters numerous times. You're factually wrong.
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>>149688079
It was actually a pretty decent debate. Unfortunate a shitposter joined one side to the extreme, but hey. I think people got out what they wanted to say for the most part.
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>>149689705
>But they actually aren't like that in the games, so you're still wrong. Eggman has been a major threat numerous times. Sonic has been helped by other characters numerous times. You're factually wrong.
And he's never taken over the world so it's moot regardless. He's a threat, but he's still not that competent

I'm not saying Sonic shouldn't get help. What I am saying is that it should come from the game characters like Tails, Amy, Knuckles, Shadow, etc. If you can't find an excuse for them to join, make one up
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>"The comics should advertise the games!"
>tfw I want a game to advertise the comics instead
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>>149689449
So, only one villain, and he's too dumb to ever win, and can never, ever be threatening in any way. Yeah, can't see this ever getting really old, really fast.

Also, Eggman, even in his goofier moments, should never be a complete fuckup. In the games, he's generally more competent than not. SA1 only showed one brief moment of incompetence when his Egg Carrier II got owned by Perfect Chaos (the creature he designed it to counteract in the event of betrayal). In Heroes and Shadow, he's only not the villain because he got upstaged by an even worse villain. It's only really in the Pontac/Graff games, AOSTH, Sonic X, and the absolute earliest Archie comics where we can definitively call him incompetent.
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>>149689949
But if the comics focused more on game characters we would get more Honey!
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>>149690008
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>>149689867
>he's never done this before therefore he should never be allowed to do this ever
>they should butcher game character personalities to force them into a situation that doesn't make sense from a character point of view, because everybody loves Heroes-present Knuckles
And that's disregarding the fact that he hasn't actually conquered the world post-reboot and is just a hostile power, like he is in the game, just with more minions.
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>>149689993
There's other villains, like the Battle Bird Armada and those Witchcarter fuckers from the Game Gear games. And GUN can be villains too. And the Deadly Six >>149689993
>So, only one villain, and he's too dumb to ever win, and can never, ever be threatening in any way. Yeah, can't see this ever getting really old, really fast.
He can be threatening, just not win.
>Also, Eggman, even in his goofier moments, should never be a complete fuckup. In the games, he's generally more competent than not. SA1 only showed one brief moment of incompetence when his Egg Carrier II got owned by Perfect Chaos (the creature he designed it to counteract in the event of betrayal). In Heroes and Shadow, he's only not the villain because he got upstaged by an even worse villain. It's only really in the Pontac/Graff games, AOSTH, Sonic X, and the absolute earliest Archie comics where we can definitively call him incompetent.
HE shouldn't be a complete fuck up, but he shouldn't be able to take over the world
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>>149690147
When does he ever "win"? The most he's gotten even in the comics is a temporary victory that the heroes later overcome, such as in #175 or the most recent issue.
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>>149690504
Owning portions of the world counts as winning. Also him ordering someone to get beheaded is a bit extreme. Even at his darkest in SA2, Sonic even comments that it's a bit strange for Eggman to do this. He's a pretty goofy motherfucker all things considered and making him a monster that fucks with people with terminal diseases and orders people to get murdered is making him grimdark for the sake of making him look more "threatening"
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>>149690692
>Owning portions of the world counts as winning.
So by your logic, he won in Unleashed which is a game so the games don't follow the games.

Hell, I don't think we even know what his established territory is in the comics right now. All we've seen is the Death Egg, his aerial fleet, and a handful of outposts, which isn't much more than he has in the games.
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>>149690891
>So by your logic, he won in Unleashed which is a game so the games don't follow the games.
He didn't own multiple parts of the world. Just one small section and all he did was split it i
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>>149690957
There's also the ending of Chronicles, which heavily implied that he took over most, if not all of the world while the heroes were off in the Nocturnus' dimension. It would still be canon, if it weren't for motherfucking Penders.
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>>149690957
He owned Eggmanland (exact size unknown) as well as numerous outposts around the world, along with his aerial fleet. All he's missing is one Death Egg and he has the same control as he does in the comics.
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>>149689057
This really has been triggering me ALL those years.
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