/evn/ - English Visual Novels

We're about to start a new week. Do you have any progress goals?

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>>149515048
I'm gonna hit 200,000 words

>>149516076
Congrats anon. Is your script almost complete?

>>149516293
No_

>>149515048
Hmm finish UI for that Russian-loli eating game and then some.

>>149516543
Do you eat them? Or do they eat?

>>149517562
Probably the dragons would.

stupid thought that may already have been done - story focused around four characters, you choose one to play at the start, and the actions of the other three are based on the most recent playthrough you made controlling that character. so the whole game is a puzzle, where you have to work out how to set up all the characters to work together through different playthroughs.

>>149521190
sounds like I/O which is a fucking mess

>>149515048
I wake up and the thread's dead. Don't do that to me, senpaitachi. Let's keep /evn/ alive!

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>>149515048
Already hit mine.

>>149521610
How dare you sleep while /evn/ is on it's deathbed

>>149521524
In order for multiple playthroughs to function together as a puzzle, the routes would have to be fairly short. I/O went on for ages, I never finished it, can't even remember how many parts I got through anymore.

>>149523394
You're also inherently making it so that there's going to be a lot of repetition by the player unless it's a linear sort of puzzle, which defeats the purpose

It sounds cool but you're probably better off just having dialogue change instead of requiring it to finish the game

>>149523394
Might be more fun to do as a yaoi/yuri jam game with just two characters, who the player is trying to get together. Each time you play you switch protagonists and inch the timeline a little bit closer to makeouts.

>>149522968
I love it. That's some fabric-y fabric.

not on my watch!!!

Twice in a few hours would be really lame. Pity bump.

Should I make a new thread for a new demo version or just bump the new one?

>>149529825
Depends on how old it is

>>149515048
I'm gonna have fun.

>>149530124
Demo thread is 2 years old.
WIP thread is 4 years old.

>>149532952
Is that a realistic goal, anon?

>>149533217
Yes. I used to have fun writing when I first started. I'm going to do that again.

>>149533297
That's what I have been trying. It has been mildly successful so far.

>>149522968
How long did it take you to reach this point? Anyway, grats man!

For the Amaretatsu translation of Cross Channel, does it cover the FInal Complete version, or is it the "plain" version?

>>149534107
Dunno. Ask /vn/ for Japanese VNs translated into English. This general is for "Western" VNs.

>>149534771
Okay. Sorry about the confusion.

>>149535659
Tell them I say hi.

>>149522968
I want to arm wrestle the bottom girl.

How to eat bread?

>>149541092
Soak it in pussy juices

>>149544214
That sounds like a good idea for a lesbian eroge. You know, soaking bread slices in pussy juice while you work a late night shift with your lover in a soup kitchen.

art comes at a snail pace

>>149545208
Well it isn't mechanized so...

>>149545208
>tfw writing comes at a snail pace
>tfw art assets fly in every 2-3 days

>>149545208
threadly reminder that to make sure something is done right, you have to do it yourself

Tell me what your longest scene is about. You can be vague.

>>149549110
Protagonist looking for her best friend after a fall out.

>>149549110
explaining the utility of quantum entanglement in basic terms

>>149549110
The stockmarket and why hobby trade is a good investment.

>>149515048
I'm going to create my skeleton for the VN and get the remaining fifteen scenes drafted/outlined in greater detail. I hope that by next week I'll be at the point where I'm doing my script properly in RenPy instead of my narrowing down phase.
Once I get the skeleton done, it'll feel like I've hit the halfway point of my writing. It's a really good milestone that I'm aiming for.
I felt like shit because I went five days without touching my project due to various reasons but I'm back on the wagon now.

>>149521190
It's a different Genre but you should play and then research the development of Maniac Mansion for a great way to have multiple characters with unique gameplay roles in an interactive story.
In particular, the short playtime of a succesful run in comparison to the large amounts of time feeling your way through the mansion with the different characters and working out how they fit into the overall progression.

>>149515048
Trying to figure out backgrounds, I keep putting the vanishing points too close together and most of the detail where the sprites will cover them.

>>149552021
Are you using ansibles for superluminal communication?

I'm tired but I must continue.

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Congrats Germany.

BTW, refugee VN when?

>>149559794
Suicide bomber from last night or did I miss something?

>>149560372
Suicide bomber and that machete attack on a pregnant woman.

Religion was a mistake

>>149559174
Keep going, you can do it!

abunai

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More work on this BG. I cannot wait until this is done. Still need to fix the roadside and paint behind the other trees and various other crap. And... model the rest of the bike T_T Nearly a week overdue

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Welp

>>149515048
https://soundcloud.com/ryunocore/gemstone-morning-piano-jam
Did some progress this morning.

>>149567360
can't unsee her hand being a stump in the new version

>>149568235
Oh. Hmmm

>>149569342
>>149567360
Yeah the fingers need to be visible.
The thinner lines and new hair look better though.

>>149566667
I like the lighting! Is it for a 2d game? It seems a shame not to be able to walk around it in 3D.

>>149571019
Thanks! Yep, it's for the VN Ladykiller in a Bind. So you won't be able to walk around in 3D but the bike will reappear in another scene, so at least it's getting a lot of use haha.

>>149559794
Does the shooting in England count as anti-capitalist terrorism?

>>149572510
The pool party shooting?

>>149560601
>Suicide bomber and that machete attack on a pregnant woman.

I thought Danny Trejo was up to no good

>>149549110
The protagonist and his childhood friend getting embarrassed discussing toilet-clogging bowel movements and the MC realizing only a black man will ever be able to truly satisfy her.

>>149534107
> I like to post in threads without reading the OPs

come back when your carer is helping you internet

>>149574000
i read that as career at first

>>149572985
Death to conspicuous consumption scum

>>149574000
>I like to respond to hours old posts to show how smug and cool I am

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Finalized the main cast. Still gonna have to add stuffs later. But at least I can line them up now.

>>149576685
right-most sleepyhead is so goddamn fuckable. looking good anon.

what's the solution to dying?

>>149580794
Fucking

>>149581092
Fuck me, plz?

>$ exp += (enemy_level/level)*100
what could possibly go wrong, eh

>>149580794
Why don't you just, like, not die when you are killed?

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>>149581710
Shirou needs to talk with you.

>>149578341
T-thanks sempai.

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>>149581669
>it doesn't work past level 3
fug

>>149533115
>making a WIP thread when the game isn't even close to release
It's like you want everyone to stop caring and forget about it by the time you finish

>>149583094
be fair
no one cared anyway

>>149583094
Does everyone care how old a thread is? I'll play a game that was started in the 90's, if it looks interesting.

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>>149582427
bah, what is integer division

>>149585034
It's just better to start advertising somewhat close to when you release your game, unless it's really cool and you have constant updates, because people are ADHD and have lost all their hype by the time you actually finish.

>>149585320
A division of integers, of course.

>>149585553
it's more of a cunning trap to baffle people who are retarded at math like me

So... are your heroines/heros virgins? Why? Why not?

>>149590061
virgins
>Why? Why not?
girls who are impure are not fit to be heroines

>>149590061
All my characters are pure and do not know about filthy things like that.

>>149590061
Yes.
Because they're 12.

So /evn/, would you rather play a vn about someone who is constantly committing suicide or constantly getting themself killed accidentally?

>>149590061
A couple are, but most of the crew have some sort of sexual experience. As for why, because they aren't 12.

>>149590892
neither

>>149590757
>>149590758
>>149590765
Good, good. Against all odds, /evn/ answers please me in every aspect.

>>149591042
Pick one please.

>>149591005
Except for you. You keep trying to bruteforce real life in self-indulging fantasies. I'm very disappointed on you, anon!

>>149590892
too weird and vague a question
like, intentionally killing yourself because you really want to die and it keeps not working, or because you live in a setting where you already know death doesn't count? like, if you're living in some kind of MMORPG and you kill yourself just for faster travel back to your home base, or in some scifi where you kill yourself to get a fresh body...

>>149591236
Like lots of bad ending, but either the bad endings are because the character is suicidal or because they are just too retarded to live.

>>149591220
isn't having sex at age 12 more of a self-indulgent fantasy?

>>149590892
Getting killed accidentaly sounds less emo-ish, and could be even comical. Unless you are going for DRAMA, of course.

>>149591354
ah, so you don't mean that they really die all the time, just that there are bad ends where they die.

would rather be accidentally killed, probably.

>>149591434
It's not drama. You are a cute character in a cute world, and the goal is to get an ending where your cute character does not die. Accidental death is less emo-y, but I feel like suicide would give the character more of a personality.

>>149591390
Yes, it is! But the problem is that you aren't self-indulgent enough!

>>149591734
As well as making it more meaningful to the player to get a happy end.

>>149591047
Hi /u/.

>>149592830
Hi :)

>>149591734
Long Live The Queen?

>>149591220
I'm sorry my characters are further along in life than high school. It probably breaks your heart when I say one of them even has a kid.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/215870777/harem-protagonist

>>149592926
No. Not at all.

>>149592926
Some players have protested that there aren't enough suicide endings in that, and that Elodie should off herself whenever she maxes out Depression.

>>149593668
Okay, good luck. I'm making a game with qt suicides too btw

>>149593592
does the demo only support 16:10 resolutions?

>>149593471
y-you can have a kid and still be a virgin!

I now understand why almost no one bought Impulse.

Thanks JP.

http://vnsnow.com/impulse-review/
tl;dr
Terribly executed mystery sections that end with the killer turning out to be someone that can't logically be the killer. Also a ton of lingering technical issues.

>>149594249
But if no one bought it, no one knew that?

>>149593471
Are they like anime moms and still look 15 at 40? Because I can handle that.

>>149594178
No one believes your bullshit Mary, we know you're an adultering slut.

>>149594579
Same dev that sullied his name with a wild catgirl appears, that would be why nobody bought it.

>>149594579
>almost no one
Meaning the few people that did warned everyone else away. Just check its negative Steam reviews.

>>149594249
>Also a ton of lingering technical issues.
and yet people keep being eager to use a horribly broken tool they had to pay for over a free tool that actually works

>>149595684
But Live2D! No coding!

>>149595924
it's easy to release a game with no coding
the trick is not caring that it doesn't work

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>>149593592
>>149593809
Holy fucking shit, people linking/posting about my game already lol. Thank you!

>>149594157
Nope, 16:9 as well. Or pretty much any X:Y, I can make the adjustments in Unity, so no problem man. What res would you like?

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>>149593809
I wanna FUCK that ayylien.

>>149596054
I am pretty sure that 16:9 is the most common aspect ratio. If you look at the steam hardware survey stats, 1920 x 1080 is the most common resolution, followed by 1366 x 768 (common resolution for laptops), both of which are 16:9

>>149596054
Props on launching your KS with a demo, not enough people are doing that these days.

>>149594643
No, but they're in their late 20s, so they are still young.

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>>149596054
>>149596628
Here's the link to the hardware survey: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Oh, and the other most common resolution besides 1920x1080 and 1366x768 is 3840x1080, which is the desktop resolution for people with a multi-monitor setup with two 1920x1080 monitors. So presumably over half the people who play this game will be doing it on a 1920x1080 display. (Btw this is my resolution also)

just deserts is the most impressive evn i've seen to date. English VA, too.

>>149596054
Disregard my comment, when the Unity launcher came up I didn't see the option for 1920x1080 for some reason

>>149597386
Is that out yet?

>>149597386
but who wants to look at a bunch of pictures of deserts?

>>149597386
I guess it's made by indonesians, but it still puts anything made in renpy thus far to shame.

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>>149598097
I suppose that's a slight step up from the glowing purple silhouettes in Fading Hearts, but...

>>149597853
Gotcha, but you kinda helped me discover something as well. I was opening Unity just now to add 1920x1080 and such, since when I opened Harem Protag on my lappy that option didn't appear, oddly. So I went to check on the settings to find that I did add 16:9, and that 1920x1080 should be one of those options. So if it appears for you and not for me, that means that only supported resolutions appear in the drop-down menu. It seems kinda silly but its good to know so that I don't do bonkers about why its missing in the future, thank you for the (albiet accidential) help lol.

>>149596656
Thank you man! I hope you try it out, and tell me how it went!

>>149598097

Because...?

>>149598330
the game looks really good in motion and the battle effects. i know i sound like a shill, but i'm impressed by how much polish it has.

story is typical anime girl tropes ala sunrider, though.

>>149594249
Murder mysteries can be tricky, especially the ongoing kind where multiple people die, because you have to deal with the questions of 'why aren't the police handling this' and 'how is everyone going on with their lives'.

The usual somewhat-lazy writer approach is to lock everyone in a confined space for some reason, so they can't get away from the killer until they solve the crime, and the police can't get in. The REALLY lazy writers just don't care at all.

Rarely do you see anyone bother setting the story somewhere that the police are known to be corrupt and won't do anything without being bribed, which makes it much easier for the protagonists to take matters into their own hands

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>>149598542
So, this may not be the same thing you're experiencing, but I've had issues with the Unity launcher when testing games on my laptop when I was trying to figure out why my games always ran at 10FPS despite me having a relatively beefy laptop.

If you have both integrated and dedicated graphics (as many modern laptops do), the Unity launcher for some reason defaults to using integrated graphics rather than actually running with your graphics card (pic related). And depending on your video settings (NVIDA control panel or whatever the equivalent is for AMD users) it will affect the behavior of the launcher.

>>149597386
From the Steam forum it looks like it has lingering errors it throws out. You also can't save during certain segments of the game, which is annoying.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=731462427

Sakura Shrine Girls

>>149604071
I can't believe WC gets away with having the same two types of girls in all.their.games.

>>149604071
They should've called it Sakura Cat Girls.

>>149604202
You're saying that like it's a problem. Same face and same body are A-OK if they're attractive.

>>149604786

But on top of that, the same personality too? Fuck that.

>>149605185
It's textbook for stories with two love interests to be between the shy/serious one and outgoing/fun one.

>>149605652

that doesn't make it less lazy.

>>149607568
good

>>149600008
Some people just don't want to write such an overly cynical setting. That's also a pretty lazy and easy reason why the police would not get involved.

>>149600008
>setting the story somewhere that the police are known to be corrupt and won't do anything without being bribed
What are some places where a reader will see the name and know that the police in that location are corrupt and useless?

>>149610825
Didn't mean to imply that's how it should be done, just that it's an option I don't see tried often.

However, if you have a serial killer taking out the cast one by one, your setting can't believably be anything but dark.

>>149611174
Google "corrupt police departments" for your answer. My kneejerk reaction is to say Chicago PD.

>>149611174

The worst of South America, Africa and Asia. If you also have a "sensible/smart" character, it takes about two lines to point it out.

> We should go to the police!
> With what money?

>>149611174
[insert country you don't like here]
A little bit of exposition should cover it, rather than relying on the reader to know that Mexico/Italy/Poland is a shithole.

>>149611521
I have to admit, I'd like to see a VN calling out Chicago for being crap

>>149611816
To add on to the pile of everything else?

>>149611816
Don't worry, I'm working on it.
It's about an actual chef who goes to chicago for good food but all anyone makes is their shitty "pizza".

>>149612154
You can't about Chicago pizza like that you piece of shit.

>>149612385
Can I make fun of their often corrupt governors at least?

>>149612520
That is acceptable.

>>149612385
>piece of shit.
Oh, you want to talk about Chicago pizza as well?
Just kidding. I've never been to any part of America and don't care about your Tupac/Biggy Smalls pizza wars.

Is it worth my time to have night versions of sprites?

>>149612863
>How much effort would it take to do so?
>Does a significant portion of your VN take place at night?
>Is your VN meant to be fairly good quality in most aspects?
>Would it be jarring to the reader if they did not?

It depends on the answers to these questions.

>>149612863
Not an artist, but can't you get something that looks good enough just applying some photoshop filters?

>>149613319
I thought that too, but then I realized he probably meant outfit changes into pajamas or something.

>>149613185
Thanks, you made the decision easy. I was already swaying towards doing it.

>>149613319
I hope so, but I'm still a beginner at Photoshop.

>>149612863
>>149613579
But you can code it?
I think WW shared the code on Lemma.

>>149613695
What is there to code? Just make two different versions, and use those versions at different times. I mean, you could code in some kind of night filter or something, but if making separate night sprites is easy enough I don't see much difference in effort.

>>149613579
It's not too hard to do. We did it for our game and you're basically making a new image in the shape of your character sprites, making it a solid color, then lowering the opacity.

>>149613695
Oh, that would be even better. I'll take a look for it.

>>149614021
Well, it could help your game to weight less.

What are pros and cons for making an episodic vn? I don't have the funds to do a full series, so I'd use the profits to help develop the later chapters.

>>149614248
That's rarely an issue worth worrying about these days, although I suppose it depends a bit on your particular audience and distribution method.

>>149614824
Cons are that dys-sys killed episodic VNs and your sales will not be that great.

>>149614824
Cons are I don't like them.

>>149614824
>I don't have the funds to do a full series, so I'd use the profits to help develop the later chapters.
Listen here, you little shit. This, right there, should tell you everything you need to know.

You can't afford to make the full series. People worry that the series will never be completed, so they don't buy into it. You don't get the sales figures you hoped for on episode one, so you drop it and don't finish the series. Anyone who DID buy into episode one hates your guts and now hates anyone else who tries to make an episodic game in the future.

It happens with such regularity that people practically had heart attacks when Telltale started to release episodic games and actually finish them. This was almost totally unheard of.

If you can't afford to make the full series, make a standalone game, make a demo and do a kickstarter, investigate other funding methods. But DON'T start an episodic series hoping it will be self-funding, that's setting you and the readers up for disaster.

>>149614248
I don't think most evns have enough art assets for that to be an issue. Use RPA extractor and see what's in the art folder in some random evns. What you find might surprise you.

>>149615062
Sales can really drop off after the first episode too. Even a famous JVN like Higurashi has lost major numbers between its 3 current chapter releases.

>>149615195

This.

To this day I'm mad that Leviathan went for episodic because they ran into this exact same problem and now the game has a really rushed ending.

Fuck episodic games.

>>149615708
Name and shame episodic evns who failed to deliver.

Dysfunctional Systems
Sakura Fantasy

>>149615195
I can think of only a single EVN series that did episodic and completed it.

>>149616328
What was it? Was it any good?

>>149616328
Sunrider?

>>149616471
That's still an ongoing series. As is the Rising Angels games.

>>149616424
Rising Angels Hope

>>149616471
Sunrider was never episodic.

>>149616616
Rising Angels Hope wasn't truly episodic, the dev split it up after the fact as an experiment that failed.

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>>149615195
This. D4 part 2 never fucking ever.

Even thought it's been delayed, I don't see Tao dropping Toko. I could see it turn into a light novel type deal or webcomic though. He might keep it as a vn but have to crowdfund the rest of the chapters, which might be why he delayed it to get his lingering crowdfunding project out of the way first.

>>149616770
I don't believe that for a moment. Sudden delays on the last one and declaring it episodic when he was hard up for money after losing his job? I bet you he was working on the parts right up to the second they released and called it an experiment to try and save face.

>>149617005
>Sorry, folks. Without getting into a lot of the personal details, the studio head has been going through some difficult IRL problems that delayed the release by 3 days. Stay tuned Monday for the ending of Faye's journey!

Are episodes okay if each episode is a self contained complete story that doesn't leave on a cliffhanger?

>>149617297

At that point what makes it episodic and not a series?

>>149617392
That's just semantics, you don't say a TV show isn't episodic just because all the episodes are self contained.

>>149617392
This. Making a game even sound episodic could hurt sales, so creating a standalone that can become a series later is a better idea.

>>149617297
Are there unsolved mysteries? Is there an overarching plot that isn't resolved?

If yes, then it's shit. When I start a story, I expect resolution, not "to be continued never" even if it doesn't explicitly end on a cliffhanger.

>>149617171
It delayed longer than that. Excuses.

>>149617653
This.

Resolve all plot details before ending your VN or I will despise you.

>>149617528
The term is tainted among the playerbase, so it's best to avoid the term "episodic".

>>149617528

TV shows are rarely completely self contained. Most of them require some sort of knowledge to "Jump in".

When I think stand alone, I think something like the Final Fantasy.

>>149617957
Well I doubt anon means each VN will have an entirely new setting and cast of characters.

>>149617297
Don't call them episodes then. Call it a game and the next one a sequel.

It is okay to leave a few mysteries unanswered as a sequel hook, as long as the primary plot of the game did come to a conclusion.

>>149618082
When I think of a series, I think of something like Adventure Time where I can miss the show for weeks, watch a random episode and still know enough to enjoy what's going on.

>>149618712
But adventure time would be "episodic" in a TV sense, as that word is usually thrown at less plot centered series with episodes being mostly self contained.

>>149618785
So to be a true "series" it can't have an overaching plot at all and every episode has to be entirely self explanatory? Sounds like Uncle Grandpa.

I think an in-game encyclopedia would work well with universes that have deep lore.

Is choosing the gender of the MC now an expected feature?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/488660/discussions/0/352788917761481445/

>>149619749
They can keep expecting, alright.

>>149619749
only by idiots

>>149590061
Yes because they're still getting ready for the purest form of love.

>>149619749
Why are people need to self insert so badly that they cannot handle if the protagonist is not literally them? Gender choice works for some games, but I think making too much of the MC's self a customizable blank slate hurts the plot in a more complex story.

>>149620036
You're not listening to fan feedback you anti-consumer tyrant!

>>149619749
You better include all 76 known genders you shitlord.

>>149619749
Can I finally play as an attack helicopter?

>>149620107
I agree.

In this case the game doesn't even have ero, so it's not like there's gross hetero sex for the yuri player to feel repulsed by. And no, it's not enough for them to change pronouns, you need to write an entirely separate MC and have the love interests interact with her differently than they do the male MC.

>>149620107
They probably came from a Bioware "choose your own waifu, RPG neutered experience!" background, and don't realize how too much personalization can actually hurt/dilute the plot in this medium.

Well, it wouldn't necesarily hurt it if we had infinite time and money to make every little variation perfect, but come on.

>>149620306
There's 77 now you cisgendered enabler.

>>149620525
Yes, that right next to dragons on the self identity scale.

>>149619749
If they're going to include all 77 genders, how dare they not include options for all skin colors and disabilities. This is discrimination.

Did you know that porn is now expected in any vn with romance in it at tall?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/488660/discussions/0/352788917755609424/

>>149621165
Not a problem for me.

>>149621162
>choose to play as a blind and deaf person and only get a silent black screen as your VN
Would make my life easier.

>>149621165
> sex is needed to make the game rewarding

this has "nice guy" written all over it.

>>149621535
It's pretty standard for VNs to "reward" the player with porn, often literally in dating sim style VNs. I don't think it's a Nice Guy thing.

>>149621954
I would consider debating it were not that user's handle is "Dr. Dick".

>>149622120
He's a doctor, so you should probably trust his professional opinion.

All the Steam suggestions are diversity and porn. It sounds like the pillars of tumblr have discovered evn.

>>149622182
But is he a real doc or one of those theoretical types? Wouldn't trust the second ones tho know anything about practical sex. At least not anymore than any of us here :^)

>>149620107
How commonly do you play games where the protagonist is fixed and:
- not your gender?
- not your race?
- not interested in the same sex you are?

(I'm not accusing you of never doing those things. However, there are a large number of gamers who freak the fuck out at having to play a girl or a gay.)

>>149621165
Seems to be too minor to make much of a fuss over. Someone wants H. That's nice. Someone wants H of everything, whether there's any romance in it or not. And Steam customers LOVE to claim that you're losing sales by not doing whatever bullshit is in their mind at the time.

>>149622587
I'm a dude and have played alot of games with female protagonists. As long as she's interesting and the story's good it doesn't bother me. Plus I like yuri which definitely helps.

>>149622587

Almost always, almost always, depends on whether the game is romantic or not.

I vastly prefer BL to otome, but if a game features no romance at all, I'd rather have a cute male protag than a female protag I can identify with.

>>149622421
>All the Steam suggestions are diversity and porn.
That's utter nonsense, read more steam forums. They suggest all sorts of shit. Including, of course, not using anime graphics because that's for pedophiles.

> It sounds like the pillars of tumblr have discovered evn.
Lumping people together into huge categories and accusing them of shitty behavior based on little-to-no evidence? Gee, who does that sound like?

>>149622720
What about listing to fan feedback?

>>149622587
>not my gender
pretty often
>not my race
pretty often
>not interested in same sex as me
Rarely, but that's just because yaoi and otome are generally not my cup of tea, I'll still play one if I've heard it's very good.

I wouldn't say a large number of people"freak out", there are just a lot of dumb selfinsertfags in the world.

>>149622847
Sounds like someone got triggered :^).

>>149622587
For the gender thing, pretty frequently, I don't care much about male/female protagonists.
For the sex thing, it's irrelevant, I'm a slut who's interested in everything.
Race, otoh... It depends on whether you count standard anime characters as being asian or not, I guess. I don't encounter a lot of non-white protagonists in the kind of games I play.

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>tfw seeing people make spelling errors

>>149622421
Yaoi shit is tumblr as fuck already. They fucking love degenerate homos in toxic relationships.

>>149622929
As a developer you quickly have to learn to say 'thank you for your feedback' and bin it, most of the time. Feedback is often stupid and contradictory. Sure, sometimes players have good ideas, but you absolutely shouldn't be a slave to them.

Most BL and otome games have tumblr written all over them honestly. It's because they're usually made by girls, and girls who are likely to discover the evn niche are often tumblr nerds as well.

>>149622421
They have been here for a long while. For each traditional BxG game announced around these parts you see like 7 directed to a different colective. At least here they just make their own VNs instead of shaming others into doing it for them, so I'm okay with that.

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Tumblr has tumblr written all over it tumblrly. It's because tumblr tumblr tumblr.

>>149622847
Making suggestions for games isn't exactly accusing people of shitty behavior. And I'm going by the suggestions I've seen personally, so obviously your mileage may vary depending on what forums you visited.

>>149623325
>At least here they just make their own VNs instead of shaming others into doing it for them, so I'm okay with that.
This desu

>waaah there aren't enough [movies/comics/books/VNs] that pander to people like me
Fuck off.
>I'm gonna make a [movie/comic/book/VN] that panders to people like me
Hell yeah, motherfucker. Follow your dreams.

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>>149623325
>For each traditional BxG game announced around these parts you see like 7 directed to a different colective.
>traditional
>different

>>149623115

> not liking toxic relationships

look at this guy.

>>149623115
Sup Haro, how's Naked Butlers coming along?

>>149623115
Still kind of want to write a yuri game where everything descends into yandere madness and stabbings but I need to find a way to distract everyone from how fetishised the bad ends are

>>149624085
Bad ends are sexual?

>>149623391
Animu art makes everything better.

>>149623614
Unless you are japanese yourself, the "traditional" VNs that constituted most westerner's first contact with the medium were bishoujo.

>>149624242
love slave locked in bondage in the basement after she murders all your friends and family tends to be

>>149624242
Not that anon but my bad ends are bad for the protagonist, not for the player.

I'm still going to release my vn episodically. I'll just start up a patreon to fund the future chapters and run a kickstarter for them after I release the first chapter.

>>149625161
Everyone will hate you, but good luck.

>>149625161

1/10 made me respond.

>>149625223
>>149625263
My publisher told me that doing that would be fine. Are you saying that Sekai Project doesn't know what they're talking about?

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>>149625461

>>149625263

>literally thinks all VNs should be free and seeing devs making money from their labor makes them sick.
>instead of making a better game than Winged Cloud ever could, he wallows in his envy and resentment of them.

Lets practice PR responses.

1) I see a minor bug with __.

2) I want more routes and/or voice acting.

3) Your game included __, which I find offensive.

4) Why can't I customize my MC?

5) Your art is fugly change it.

6) Porn please.

>>149627272
1-6) Go to hell you sons of bitches.

>>149627272
I ignore all six.

>>149627272

1: Thank you for informing us, we will fix it as soon as possible.
2-6: Thank you for your feedback, we always appreciate player input.

>>149627272
1 was the reasonable request.

>>149627418
A++ Why can't all devs be you? I think you have a future in PR.

>>149627369
>>149627412
Do either of you sell vns on Steam?

>

>>149627691
I don't even read vns. I'm just here for the memes.

>>149627550
All you have to do is pretend you're a nice person.

>>149593809
Super Interesting.

>>149627691
I think those were perfectly reasonable answers.

>>149627837
You'd be surprised how hard that is for many people.

>>149624390
sure, but does that mean that everyone who makes a game that isn't bishoujo is automatically a tumblr traitor?

>>149628137
It does not. Pointing out a general trend doesn't mean someone is saying "EVERYTHING IS LIKE THIS".

>>149628137
Ah, that was it. No, I didn't mean that way. Yaoi and yuri are not tumblr per se, but sadly tumblr userbase tend to congregate arond them. Sometimes I make the mistake of putting them all in the same bag. My apologies.
On the other hand, gaiafags and stupid 12yo steam plebs congregate around bishoujo too, so we are all equally fucked in that regard.

>>149627272
>3) Your game included __, which I find offensive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

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>>149627272
>6) Porn please.
What you want, baby I got it.

>>149629471
This desu.
God, I love being a pervert. I don't need tho shoehorn the porn, it flows naturally in my story.

>>149629471
Reminder that if your vn sounds like it should have porn based on its premise, you should probably include porn.

>>149629608
Right? Just one of the many perks. I'm glad someone else here knows this feel.

>>149629763
did that one anon with the making the all female prison with male guard have porn?
cause if not thats a crime

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>>149629608
>tfw you're a shameless person but there's no need to include pornographic material in your story so you don't

>>149629763
True, although what people think counts as 'should have porn based on its premise' may vary.
I mean, some people would think that a cute demon girl moving in with you is obviously a prelude to sexytimes

>>149629928
>I mean, some people would think that a cute demon girl moving in with you is obviously a prelude to sexytimes
thats because it is
it is a prelude to sexytimes
and its ebi-hime using it as a pretense to tell a fluff story about lolis is why strawberry vinegar sold like shit

>>149630256
It sold like shit because it's expensive.

>>149629890
There is no need for elaborate romance or waifus, yet here we are. Reading VNs instead of books.
Even if it is not strictly necesary I like to put it. If I am allows to show the player the fight against those first dungeon measly goblins, I can certainly let them experiment too a few torrid lovemaking scenes with their loved ones.
And the cuddling that follows.

>>149629928
>some people would think that a cute demon girl moving in with you is obviously a prelude to sexytimes
Based on numerous hentai I've watched it is, especially if the girl in question is a succubus. I think that's why some ero fans were so surprised that Toko didn't have porn and frequently requested it.

>>149630439
>Even if it is not strictly necessary I like to put it in.
I like your style and the way you worded that.

>>149630439
Unfortunately, what I'm trying to write is almost entirely serious.

>>149630439
*allowed
and all the other typos, disregard them as a drunkard quirks

>>149630605
Sex can be serious based on the context.

>>149629928
>some people would think that a cute demon girl moving in with you is obviously a prelude to sexytimes
I'm pretty sure most people would. Demons are traditionally associated with depravity, and "demon girl" calls to mind "succubus".

>>149630378
$10 isn't expensive

>>149630605
A fair point.

>>149629928
You should really quit cock teasing your audience. It tends to make people feel frustrated and unfulfilled.

>>149630773
Sure, but it doesn't fit within the context very well.

I could add it easily enough in the one area that has romantic context, but I feel it would do nothing but detract considering the girl is a bitch and she vanishes for most of the rest of the time anyway

>>149630847
All they need is an imagination and a few minutes alone, and they'll get a sex scene that appeals to them far more than anything I could think up.

>>149630847
>You should really quit cock teasing your audience.
winged cloud sales beg to differ

>>149630605
Sex is a part of serious relationships. Unless your talking about 2 asexuals in a relationship. I wonder what that kind of relationship would be like.

>>149630792
Depends on lenght, gameplay, art quality...

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>>149630947
the mark of a shitty writer, ladies and gents

>>149631010

Ebi Hime is considered one of the best writers around in the evn scene and the art is really good.

Is the game THAT short?

>>149630847
But that's my fetish.

>>149630952
They have started putting porn in their recent vns by popular request.

>>149631000
Most VNs don't show actual relationships, they just show the lead up to the relationships and end there. Also, you can imply sexual attraction or even that sex is happening without showing an actual sex scene. It all depends on whether said sex scenes would fit in the story or if they would feel out of place.

>>149630605
Hey, if it doesn't fit don't try to force it in. Don't risk a tearing in the delicate fabric of plot and interpersonal relationships over something that, even if some people think is a BIG deal, others consider can be compensated with good--literary--technique.

>>149631135
I think it's a bit short, though I haven't played it myself, I see reviewers clocking in as low as 3 and a half hours, though plenty of others hitting 10.

>>149631247
I've seen people say that fade to black is lazy and that it makes them feel that something was cut out.

>>149631135

/evn/ spends most of the time mashing spacebar, so a 4 hour game is 30 minutes long.

>>149631329
>Hey, if it doesn't fit don't try to force it in.
10/10 post
Maybe they just need to lube up the plot a bit first and jiggle a few things around to make it fit.

>>149631329
>Hey, if it doesn't fit don't try to force it in
That's (not) what she said!

>>149631371
It depends. Sometimes fading to black is just more tasteful. Not everything needs to be shown, just as you don't necessarily need to show the extent of some horrible gore, sometimes it just doesn't fit the tone to be so explicit.

>>149631494
Sorry, Tao, but your game really is that short.

>>149631135
Are you Ebi Hime? Are you fucking Ebi Hime?

>>149627272
1.) Hi, we would like more information about this bug report. Can you please attach relevant console information if available?
2.) Sorry, that wasn't included in the initial design and production, hence there will be no more routes or voice acting.
3.) I'm sorry to hear that, but we're not keen on changing that for the sake of integrity.
4.) Your MC is not you.
5.) Sorry, this is what we can afford.
6.) Hmm...

>>149631135
VNDB says it's 2-10 hours and only one heroine, so I said that because depending on the other factors I can understand some people thinking it's too much. If the writing is top tier it certainly could compensate for that, but I haven't read it and can't judge.

>>149631371
I kind of feel this way desu
The blueballing is part of it, but also I find that FtB's tend to be jarring jump cuts.

People seem to forget that a scene transition is a scene transition, regardless of whether it is skipping over sexytime or not. It needs to be set up and paced properly.

>>149631668
Hi, Chris

>>149631668
It took me just under 2 hours to read it at a casual pace.

>>149632117
Which game? Toko is longer than 30 minutes but not a whole lot longer, for a fast reader. 1-2 hours sounds right.

>>149632309
Toko based on my recorded time before idling for cards.

Wasn't even what I was talking about every game /evn/ plays they say is 3x to 5x shorter than it really is.

>>149633675
People don't read properly. In high school just about everyone finished reading sooner than me, but they usually got much worse test scores about when we read over. They sacrificed speed for retaining information about what they read.

>>149627272
2) You have 6 best girls just for you and you still want to NTR your bros? What is wrong with you?!
As for voiceacting, I have this awesome kickstarter you can pledge to. Stretch goals include English voices, after the base high quality weeb voiceacting is done (because nips are actually better at this, you filthy tasteless EOP!), so giv mo' money!

Live.

>>149627272
1) This is actually important. Thanks, I'll try to fix it.
2) And I want a fucking base in the Moon so I can subjugate all mank... I mean, I appreciate your imput.
3) Good. It worked then!
4) Why? He is better than you in any possible way. Why would you want to be a boring asshole when you can my awesome MC?
5) Your eyes are defective, change them.
6) wat. You mean even MORE porn?

>>149637715
>imput

>>149637715
>this degree of social awkwardness

how

>>149637831
The keys are close.

>>149637853
This is why you'll never be a rockstar.

>>149633921
most of /evn/ is lying about their reading speed, you can't read as fast and be able to commit that information to memory. It's like with studying, you may read through it but by the end you will not remember what you just red.

>>149638180
I'm a slow reader. Finishing VNs usually take me more than average. Might have something to do with alt+tabbing every five minutes to check this thread.

>>149597386
>Attack of the Rubik's Cubes

Fucking. Someone fetch my sides.

>>149631778
>2-10 hours
I get what you mean, but VNDB length is pretty useless for EVNs, under 5 hours or over is a big difference in my opinion.

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>>149596054
how do i fug blonde girl in the demo

also why is her name satomi if she is coming to japan as a foreigner

>tfw you get when you think that your artist is in this general as well.

>>149641130
We're all here, anon. We're all here :^)

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>Struggle so much with a story arc that it tanks my motivation for several months
>Finally come back to it but not getting any inspiration
>Decide to skip it for now and work on the following arc.
>Get the entire thing planned out and tied together into the overall story in record time
Hopefully drafting it out in detail will come as easily.

I let myself go this month due to being in a slump. Gained 2 kilos. Gonna go out for a long walk to be healthy again and write on stops to gain momentum in the game's progress. Wish me luck. ;_;

Still can't decide if I want suicide bad ends of accident bad ends. Suicide seems to emo but no one will give a shit if the MC is just fucking retarded.

>>149644541
Maybe someone/fate could be trying to kill them.

>>149644541
Mixture of both?

>>149640910
Would not fit asian one size uniform. Suspension of disbelief gone.

>>149641130
Are you checking up on me?

>>149631724
Too tryhard and disagreeing with the kinds of people who make certain unreasonable complaints tends to just upset them further.
Stick with
>>149627418

>>149640910
>shy girl

>>149643659
lol fat people

>>149643659
you can do it!

>>149645786
Probably not?

https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=38535

>giving away scripts

>>149627272
1) thanks famalam
2) give me more money and I'll deliver
3) kys IRL
4) give me more money and I'll deliver
5) give me more money and I'll deliver
6) give me more money and I'll deliver
and then I'l go on twitter (which I'll make at that point) and rant on and on about plebs and vidya being art
then I get some shitty award and never make another game again

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>mention that you are a professional artist with a bachelors in art
>art isn't better than most amateurs on Tumblr

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>>149638180
>300 wpm is impossibly fast

>>149651015
Art school means absolutely fucking nothing. Most art schools require little more out of you than following instructions and doing your best. You can learn things at art school, but you get out of it what you put into it and everything can be learned for free on one's own.

In short, art school credentials mean fuck all.

>>149651015
But the customer can pretend they're very ~professional~ for hiring a graduate, not like those other EVNs made by amateurs.

>>149651015
>major in engineering
>have talented kids ruin your life because they're better than you.

Apparently, this applies to every vocation. Good to know.

>>149631135
Can't speak for him/her/it but Ebi Hime since I've only played Emilie Burns. Stylistically, it's good. However, structurally, it can be better. The epilogue was anti-climatic as fuck.

>>149652848
You could've just used "them".

>>149653351
get checked, shitlord !

>>149653559
That space before the exclamation point is even more triggering.

>>149653803
............... but.......... anon..................

All triggers are illegitimate.

Are triggers the most boring fetish in existence?

>>149654167
No, that'd be yuri.

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If you follow your dreams, you too could one day have infel personally object to your game.

>>149651212
I graduated from art school and the most important thing they taught us is that you will always be hired on the strength of your portfolio.