/mbg/ - Mount & Blade General

hi

2nd for dickplomacy when

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in modules without penalties for heavier armor or just native, do you always go for the heaviest armor giving the most protection as a sort of 'end-game' armor, or not be a shitter and aim light for aesthetics?

>>149481497
i never buy anything from shops
i only use what i loot from battle
the iron price

>>149481497
Depends whether or not they actually look good
In 1257 though I've taken to wearing a linen shirt and mongol boots and a crown on a steppe horse without weapons, mainly because if I wore top-end armor or even mid-tier armor I'd be able to solo 100 fucks.

>>149481871
"realistic" combat model

>>149481497
I'd wear what my footsoldiers would wear.

>>149481497
i tend to go with whatever armor suits my character the best and matches together
though i do like getting the heaviest armor, especially when the weights on armor are set higher than natives since you actually feel slow and tanky
not sure what the weight measurement is in, if it's in kg then it's unrealistic to get that effect, but if it's in lbs then it is realistic

>>149481963
It's not the combat model, it's the AI. As a mongol girl I can just fire off 70 arrows killing a person with each shot and can lance enemy archers on my return through the circle. The AI is too stupid to just shieldwall up or something.

>>149481871
this only works against bandits

>>149482217
It works against regular armies too if they lack a lot of horse archers. You can easily lance enemy cavalry off their horses, and after killing the archers it's just sniping the people without shields and lancing the ones who have them. Priority is killing the archers so they don't obliterate your horse.

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https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,353698.0.html

Blood and Iron just got a new release, it's a Victorian multiplayer mod with Brits, Krauts, Frogs, Japs, and Injuns.

It also lets you live your dream of gunning down samurai, and has nice assets to borrow.

>>149482406
i meant the armor thing
infantry are more than capable of tearing through armor, but bandits have really shit stats

>>149482643
The armor thing is mainly to survive at least one or two hits from an arrow or crossbow. Without armor you can take like 100 damage from a shot.

>>149482708
carry a shield

>>149482824
>horse archer
>shield
Mate, understand that what I meant was that Monghen Khan doesn't even carry a dagger these days into battle. She's literally just wearing her casual clothes and ordering people to positions, imo this is a lot more fair.

>>149481497
I generally aim for the heaviest with only minor concessions to aesthetics.

I find the process of progressing in armor/equipment itself to be an enjoyable part of the game.

>>149482956
just remembered the bows in WFAS can be used with a shield
i have no idea how realistic this is

>>149483139
With a strap-on shield maybe, like the ones pikemen use although this isn't in Mount and Blade

>>149483139
certain small shields like bucklers were attached to the left arm and could be used while shooting bows
the problem is that in WFAS it lets you do it with any type of shield

>>149483251
the macedonians did this but i haven't seen medieval period images of that
>>149483320
>the problem is that in WFAS it lets you do it with any type of shield
this is more of a warband problem, since bows are normally flagged as two_handed
so if you unflag them they can be used with shields, you could do the same with crossbows

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>>149482501
>tfw this made me remember Iron Europe
Getting together and going full sturmtruppen on trenches in big MountandMusket-style linebattles was fantastic.

Too bad the mod was ridiculously unstable on release which killed much of the enthusiasm for it and the mod with it.

LONG MAY HE REIGN.

>>149483463
>but i haven't seen medieval period images of that
Medieval didn't use massed pikes period. You can probably find some two-handers using them though.

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>>149483539
You fucking FAILED.

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>>149483539
LONG MAY 4CHIN NOT POST THE PICTURE WITH IT GODFUCKINGDAMNIT

>>149483548
>Medieval didn't use massed pikes period.
well yeah they did, medieval period goes to the 15th century, and there were lots of pikemen in the 15th century
not to mention in the later medieval period when two handed weapons became more popular the shield wasn't used by those men

>>149482078
>since you actually feel slow and tanky

Jesus, the slow walking/running speed is really frustrating for me and you actually like it if it goes slower? Are you a masochist?

>>149483845
You know what I'm talking about, they only made their reappearance in the late medieval period
That's actually part of the reason medieval fell apart.

>>149483539
>>149483725
stop stealing Ragnar's phrase reeeeee

>>149481497
Aesthetics if I'm playing with reduced damage, pure defense or benefits otherwise.

dickplomacy when

>>149481149
Brainwashed by constant rape is closer to what people mean by mindbreak usually

>>149483970
>That's actually part of the reason medieval fell apart.
that's more to do with the guns than the pikes

>>149483970
>tfw you spend florins out the wazoo on plate armor and a warhorse only to realize that you can't charge anybody cause they all have pikes
>you then get one-shot by some peasant with a culverin or hackbutt
fuckin peasants man

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The free peoples of the north destroyed the only outpost Dol Guldur had with my help, but they are still not besieging the fortress.
Had to ride south because Gondor is in terminal state, I swore an path of vengeance against the Haradrim and broke their siege of the last Gondor city besides Minas Tirith.

Now I need try and give some breathing space to Gondor while the north prepares a siege of Dol Guldur.

Dear dickplomacy dev,

Can you keep track of a lord's anal virginity and state, amount of times he's been raped, and litres of semen swallowed over time?

Thank you.

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>>149481149
That's just "broken". "Mindbroken" is when you rape someone for so long they literally can't think of anything besides getting raped again and love you for it.
I'm almost certain that it's not actually possible.

>>149484334
The idea is the same though, taking power away from the elite few and giving it to the normies. A gun is just a crossbow but even more annoying. Pikemen are essentially immune to cavalry charges and they don't have to do anything but sit still.

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>went through character creation for VC
>picked all the options I liked most
>spent about 30 minutes moulding my lads face so he doesn't look retarded
>click done
>accidently left on story mode

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>>149483716
>Your Relationship with Mountain Butter general deteriorated from -5 to -20

>>149484561
Export character, it keeps the face codes. Redoing the options shouldn't be too difficult.

>>149484498
>The idea is the same though, taking power away from the elite few and giving it to the normies.
the whole knightly cavalry thing had been dying for a while, it wasn't pikes or guns that initially did it either, it was the push toward heavily armed and armored infantry that ended up being way more effective than heavy cavalry
>Pikemen are essentially immune to cavalry charges
but vulnerable to close combat, which was more and more prevalent in the closing days of the medieval period before we get matchlocks in armies and pike blocks

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>>149484561
Story mode is so fucking shit

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>>149483974
stay mad fagnar

>>149484737
>but vulnerable to close combat
That's what you mix halberds into them for

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>>149484498
with enough determination and long enough lances, frontal cavalry charges can actually break pike blocks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Klushino
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>>149484748
I hope Taleworlds learn a lesson from Brytenwalda(tm)'s fiasco

>>149484978
Yeah but it doesn't mean it isn't fucking retarded most of the time.

>>149484748
I actually like story mode

>>149485194
they didn't learn a lesson with WFAS
why would they learn one now

>>149485403
But the story itself is so shit.
I'd be fine with it if the story was well-written instead it's some weird propaganda thing about your mommy dying.

>>149485468
>they didn't learn a lesson with WFAS
What makes you say that?

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>"Soldiers! We will be leading an assault on this rhodok castle by tomorrow morning!"

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AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE PEERS OF THE REALM, KING RAGNAR HAS DECIDED TO CONFER THIS THREAD UPON KING RAGNAR.

LONG MAY HE REIGN.

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>>149485794
LONG MAY HE REIGN

>>149485601
cause they kept pumping out expansions after that

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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.

>>149485872
Taleworlds haven't made anything themselves since Warband, I'm just saying I hope they learn from how badly the Brytenwalda team fucked up the story stuff in VC when they make their hopefully not shit story stuff for Bannerlord.

>>149485729
Can't wait for bannerlord, then I will just tear up a hole in the walls of the crossbow faggots and charge into it using cavalry

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These peasants better be thankful in the future.

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>>149480774
>>149480774
I really hope that Bannerlord expands on marital life.


I always roleplay myself as a Mongoloid knight, starting off in the Khergit Khanate and dressing like a Mongol. I leave the realm and seek the whitest of pussy; prime young blond haired pale skined shaved bald Nord pussy. The thought of courting and giving the yellow dick to white pussy gets me rock hard. What gets me even harder is having to dual some little White cuck who has crushed on the girl since they were children and then after getting his ass beat has to watch as I marry his love and take her every night with my Mongoloid cock, filling her with my yellow seed.

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>Adventures of Hild never
>Adventures of Thorfinn forever

It hurts.

>>149486368
what module?

In Gekonewer what is the difference between Aneki & Female/Western Female? Is it just a taller model or what?

>>149486468
Thorfinn wasn't that bad when he was murder happy

>>149486087
haven't played VC
what's so shit about the story mode?
as i recall, WFAS had a story mode as well

>>149486425
>those glasses
>charismatic villian
>criminal mastermind
>cute af
>art lover

Why is he so perfect?

>>149486603
Aneki is slightly taller and has different face models, Western Female also has different face models compared to the other races (more blondes and shit iirc)

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BANZAI

>>149486879
Any updates planned soon from the skelly-loving nigger or is it safe to conquer Japan?

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>>149486662
It's pretty boring to be quite honest with you, shield-brother.

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>>149486662
At release it was buggy and dysfunctional as fuck, don't know if it's been fixed really.
It's basically cheating if you want to go into the sandbox later since it gives you way too much shit for free.
The difficulty fluctuates.
The sort of branching choices part of it is badly managed. I recall for instance getting a bunch of different options for some item I found. Like A) Give it to Knut B) Give it to Sten C) Whatever D) Choice that basically says to delay the decision.
I pick D and then I later go to Knut. But I get no option to give it to him and further on I get blamed for not doing so.
It was generally just shitty and boring.

I've forgotten most of it, I played it like a year and a half ago.

>>149487035
I'm not sure on that one, you'd have to ask him yourself on that I'm just HistoricalNamesAnon I'll probably release a patch to change up a few names soonish though, which will be savegame compatible

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>>149486527
Blood and Iron

>>149487170
Are those messages the
>muh realism
messages? If so, who the fuck thought that would be a good idea?

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>>149487498
>Mom is sick
>Attacked by vikings
>Start in Friese
>Do some quests for a Jarl
>Get the illusion of a branching choice, but one of the options can never be done
>Difficulty spike village defense
>Go to Denmark
>Get attacked at a farm
>Gotta defend your honor in court now
>Which means doing quests for every Jarl in Denmark to make them like you
>Also can get one of the best pieces of armor in the game by going back to the farm and fighting a Berserker
>Have to kill one of your companions in a duel
>Go to England
>Do some quests for vikings
>Now get an actual choice: Fight for Wessex or Fight for the Danes
>Either take a fort from the picts or the britons and hold it for 30 days (depends on who you sided with)
>Go somewhere by boat for a shitty, difficulty spike fight
>Return home
>Denmark is mostly in control of England
>Fight a huge battle
>Your side wins
>Remember that viking shit that took your mom
>You are pointed to where he is
>Another fight
>Viking shit kills your mom
>You kill Viking shit
>Give your mom a norse pagan funeral (apparently she is pagan even if you're Christian)
>The end

That's basically the entire story.

>>149488327
Stamina is good in VC. It prevents heavily armored vikings from being juggernaut murder machines.

>>149488327
That's the messages for running out of stamina, yes. You can turn off stamina if you want.

>>149488385
That's it? Fuck. Here I was trying to get past the first village defense without dying of boredom. Fuck this i'll play sandbox.

>>149486662
story is ok, WFAS story is garbage

ded

>>149489734
wfas story with best faction is super metal it lets you gain massive army and kills you in the end.

>>149492861
Worst faction.

>>149480774
Reposting this for the anon that posted it originally.
>Custom Troop Trees
http://www.moddb.com/mods/custom-troop-trees

Will noldor fags stop spawning if I destroy their castle?

>>149494046
Yes.

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>>149486114
Not so fast.

man I got like 4 companions who gotta read the intelligence book if I want to minmax, should I just say fuck it and level their skill the natural way or do a month long reading session

>>149481497
Fucking dwemers

>>149483929
>Are you a masochist?
i like having equipment that has a tradeoff
normally the heaviest armor will only slightly hinder your mobility

>>149494767
Heavy armor does only slightly hinder mobility. It just drains stamina faster.

>>149488385
>>149488712
I liked the VC story for what it was because I played a good man who became a bastard. I liked getting invested in Doccinga before having to abandon Frieseland and go to Denmark. The mandatory battles were a bit shit though and the quest to take a left me ambivalent. It could have been a lot better, but the aim wasn't to have you following the storyline religiously but to have it guide you.

Making your own story is better though.

>>149495026
i just meant in general, i think you feel the effect better if the weight's higher
like how having higher weight on weapons makes the effects related to that happen more often and gives more depth to the available weapons
again i don't know how realistic it is because i don't know what the weight units are supposed to be

>>149494325
Month long reading session, rushing your way through the game is anti-comfy.
Do time-consuming shit like collecting taxes and training peasants how to defend themselves.

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ded

Well, gonna try out Perisno right now. Any tips from seasonsed players?
Do races make a difference?

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>be allied to swadia
>waging war on 3 fronts
>King Fatfuck calls a feast every 15 days
I'm going to enjoy dethroning this motherfucker.

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I'm tempted to jump ship to the last remaining Welsh faction in the game to help build them back up. That or continue to slowly build up my army so that when I do decide to go independent, I can use the last Welsh city as my starting point.

Maybe I need to become King Arthur.

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>>149498950
He ded

>>149499056
He'll come back from Avalon.

>>149481497
Endgame aesthetics, before that I always go for the best bang for buck.

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>>149499164

>install anon's 1257
>decide to start with a training match in arena
>these training weapons are pretty dope
>end up beating ~20 guys
>lol 500 denars
>holy shit this feels broken, I'll rather go do some quests
>end up stumbling into a town where a tournament is held but no lords is present
>1v1 fight my 5 merc companions who are total hobos, then 2 default tournament NPCs who whoop my ass but I still have 5:2 so I emerge victorious
>win 14k denars
>buy a mail hauberk
>it's day 2 and I am already nearly invincible versus bandits and low-level troops
This is the most broken shit ever. When does this mod get good?

>>149499270
Maybe I am Arthur reborn.

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>>149500134
>being worst girl

>>149500134
>fucking pigs

>>149482501

Oh fuck, that looks great. Is it multiplayer only? I'm shit at multiplayer.

>>149499920
how is getting 500 denars for beating 20 guys in the arena broken

>>149499920
Go to paris and walk around inside the castle, when you start teleporting around then shit gets "good"
1257 is shit

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>>149500445
looks fine to me

>>149502053
It's near the big door, you almost got it.

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>>149502387
seems pretty inconsequential

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When I decided to raid this port, I didn't think I would be parking my ships away from the town. Didn't think I would be landing under a giant hill that the enemy was going to keep their archers on.

I'm scared.

Does anon's 1257 need wse?

>>149503476
no

>>149503476
does WSE give any performance boosts?

>>149503645
It used to be a requirement in the original one, it's why I'm asking.

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>the sturgians are not slavs
>they're generic "le ebin vikings xD"

>>149503902
i don't remember it needing WSE
it used that svn thing before

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>>149503962

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>>149494262
That's quite the potential troop tree
>Empire Peasant
>Imperial Recruit
branches into infantry, cavalry, archery

>Imperial Light Infantryman
>Imperial Infantryman
>Imperial Trained Infantryman
>Imperial Veteran Infantryman
>Imperial Legionary

>Imperial Horseman
branches into Imperial Horse archer
>Imperial Heavy Horseman
>Imperial Cataphract

>Imperial Skirmisher
branches into Imperial Crossbowman, Sergeant Crossbowman
>Imperial Bowman
>Imperial Archer
>Imperial Heavy Archer

>>149504892
i'm disappointed that from what we can tell the empire's won't have different troop trees

>>149505535
Well, maybe the non-southern empires don't have Cataphracts? Or something

>>149505535
I'm thinking every faction will have a quest-line, and the result of completing the Empire quests will be a unified Empire.

>>149505735
TW has already said that it is a single questline that is meant to introduce the factions and their problems to the player before dropping them back into sandbox mode.

>>149505535
>that from what we can tell
CaptainCrust confirmed that in this very general that all the imperial troop trees will be the same.
They'll all the look the same too. Though when he asked if we would like to see some differences between them (troop tree and how they look) and was answered "yes" he said he'll try to get the word to the dev team.
Didn't promised anything but hey, that's something.

>>149505735
Quests? Unifying land not via piecemeal conquest? That aint the mount and blade I know.

>>149505670
i was hoping it'd be split into early or late rome, marian reform rome, and byzantine empire
marian rome would have heavy infantry specialty and byzantines would have cataphracts, dunno about the first though
>>149505735
yeah this sounds like it'd be in the game

>>149505875
It's moddable, who even cares? Native textures will be shit compared to what modders can churn out.

>>149505875
>that
scratch the first "that". I shouldn't be writing this late.

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How lame.

>>149500445
>this autist again

>>149505875
i couldn't remember if he'd said or not, thanks for confirming
it's still disappointing

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>when you're getting sieged by a force 5 times your size but there is only one ladder
niggertwittercrylaugh.jpg

>>149506024
>It's moddable, who even cares?
Not an excuse to copy paste troops and armors for three factions.
I would be fine with it if there were some differences between the three like >>149505670 suggested. Each one getting a special unit.
Anyway, we'll see how much they are ready to change the game during the beta/early access.

>>149507161
>getting this butthurt over a broken mod

>>149508452
>getting this butthurt that people are butthurt over your butthurt over a broken mod in honor of the original cao cao poster

>>149508696
>being so butthurt you start acting like a retard

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>>149508452
>>149508696
>>149508803
>being so butthurt that you refuse to shut the fuck up

What modules let you export/import your companions? So far I know 1257AD, Floris, Silverstag, Way of the Sword. What else?

>>149505535
I think, realistically, the Western empire equivalent should have their armies mostly consist of barbarian mercenaries anyway.

>marshall parks his ass in his castle and expects me to keep following him
kill yourself m'lord

>>149510313
>realistically
There is no "realistically", we have no real backstory on the Empire or a history of it. We don't know if it was mostly barbar auxiliaries, I mean the Empire became cav-heavy in direct opposition to its origins under the Byzantines so it's not plain and simple each time.

>>149510556
If he's inside the castle just waiting inside the castle for a while counts as following him.

>>149510556
Show some respect to your feasting lord, peasant.

>>149507471
Are they fixing this in Bannerlord?

>>149512265
nigger did you even watch the gameplay reveals?

>>149512265
Anon that is a bannerlord picture

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>>149512265
are they?

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One day, I will convert all of the Norse to the One True Faith.

>>149514281
I'll be honest, at this point there is no religion more cringeworthy than Christianity because of how much I see it and deus vult xd memes.

>>149514486
وأنا أتفق، المسيحيون هم حقير جدا.

>>149514662
Less cringeworthy because you see it less. Jihad for le Prophet xd is pretty cringeworthy too though.
Tbh all of the Abrahamics are kind of cringeworthy.

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>>149514486
That's fair. There are a lot of people posting that in this thread.

>>149514789
le "ill die in battle and go to valhalla xDD" maymay

>>149514994
>the rainbow bridge
Why are pagans so fucking gay?

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>>149515124
I don't know, mate. Why are neopagans such annoying faggots?

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Which one do I join lads? Swadia or Rhodoks?

>>149515441
because in the west neopagans exist only to spite christians, that's it

>>149515050
>Valhalla
Same shit for Crusades and Jihad though, and paganism has much better stories.
Judiasm is a literal fanfiction about why the Jews are going to inherit the Earth and why YHVH is amazing.
Christianity is a tweaked version of fanfiction that is engineered to spread like wildfire, unlike older religions which were more organic-feeling.
Islam is just plain weird and has some pretty stupid things happening in the backstory of Mohammed.
That's not to mention the hypocrisy of Christianity (Church Councils, indulgences, wielding temporal power, an order of monks who kill, "holy" war in a religion that condemns killing) and the unapologetic "I do what I want" of Islam.

>>149515697
>Same shit for Crusades and Jihad though, and paganism has much better stories.
t. 578

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>>149515652

>>149515602
Rhodoks Rho-rocks.

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what elf best/worst

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>no other mod will ever look this good
>no other mod will ever crash this much

>>149516230
eh SoF looks kinda plasticy to me

>>149515990
>implying it doesn't
In Christianity most of the stories are meant to prove a point about Christ or God, or define virtue, more than just being a story by themselves. Pagan stories are often either just random bullshit made up to sound entertaining or to explain phenomenon like eclipses or earthquakes.
>implying Valhalla, a land of mead, hot winged blonds, and general laughter, isn't basically Heaven or Paradise (until Ragnarok but that's the literal end of everything so whatever)

>>149516230
Wait for bonerlord.

Why aren't you worshiping the gods of your ancestors, anon :))

>>149516471
It's a hassle.

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>>149516350
>Ragnarok
>End of everything

which mod is close to vanilla (doesn't change factions, towns etc.) but is good?

>>149516532
>shitton of Gods die
>the Einherjar get wiped
>an Adam and an Eve survive
It's the end of ALMOST everything.

>>149516593
Freelancer, Diplomacy.

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I'm posting George Washington until we get a decent American Revolutionary War mod

>>149518771
God Save the King

>>149518771
What about Gabby's mod?

So is this thread dead or not?

>>149519056
We're waiting for Bannerlord. The general is just a vigil.

>>149519056
no but i am

>>149519056
As dead as Mega Man.

>>149518771
download gabby's mod and finish it

>>149519087
this

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feels like i've been waiting longer for dickplomacy than bannerlord

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>>149519004

>>149519127
shut up

>>149519328
You're right. There is always Mighty No. 9, right?

>>149519232
every time

I'm going to ask this again. Should I join Swadia or Rhodocks?

>>149519438
SHUT UP

>>149519537
do you prefer to feast on butter or mud?

>>149519537
Depends.
Do you want easy field battles, or easy siege battles? Swadians, Rhodoks, respectively.

>>149519537
rhodocks if you like to sit around waiting in castles, or getting obliterated by heavy cavalry in the open field

Dickplomacy when?
Integration into 1257 when?
Will we be able to slowly create our own Feodor-mod using his stolen assets?

>>149516230
Is that 1257?

>>149519626
Does it still hurt, anon?

>>149520247
No that's Sands of Faith

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>>149520253

>>149520406
It's okay, anon. Let it all out.

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>>149520476
Honestly, Mega Man wasn't a big part of my childhood, so I don't care.

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i could stomach the wait for dickplomacy if i had an eta

also bump your thread, scalawags

>>149523493
shouldn't you be in the reserve aekuck

>>149523493
We do have an ETA.
Early access this winter.

I was dealing with fewer divide-by-zero errors and lag stops running the Warsword beta then the recent release.

>>149519232
How can you be so bad at applying thermal paste?

>>149526254
Because it's a joke video.

Would you look at this
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,305602.msg8492227.html#msg8492227

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>>149523493
probably by this weekend at the latest

>>149526830
RIP Gekonewer's free time.

>>149527901
are you implementing cut content?

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>>149528394
a little bit

>>149528772
there's a number of unused quality items in the commonres files
namely a few helmets and some weapons

>>149526723
The description of the video that I found says it's an official MSI video that got pulled.

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Do you think we'll get distant scenery like this on the new giant maps in Bonerlord?

>>149529830
no

>>149530715
what the heck ?

>>149528772
Will you implement the shit that Feodor stole?

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>>149486603
Female, Western Female & Aneki/Imouto each have their own set of heads with western female being an actual head not hair-heads.
Only difference between Aneki and Imouto is height.

>>149487035
Not in the foreseeable future I'm trying not to mod anymore...

>>149526830
>>149527949
Now I have to learn the module system. Dammit.

Anyone know of a good guide? There seem to be quite a few so

Well at least there looks like a lot of good stuff in Dickplomacy to steal ff he releases source

Why do you guys hate Floris and what are some good alternatives?

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>personal castle besieged by 400+ army of khergits
>other personal castle besieged by 350+ army of vaegirs
>personal village raided by some faggot with an army of 50
>defend all 3 with my 150 huscarls
Feels good to be a Nord.

>>149532602
Seeing as you like Vinland Saga, have you read
>Ad Astra, about Hannibal
>Kingdom*, about Warring States China
>Histoire, about Alexander's strategist apparently
?

*Warning: Has a shit-tier MC

>>149532602
woah dude it's like the artist drew samurai in viking gear instead of actual vikings

>>149532873
Histoire is cool, I'll check out the other 2. Thanks anon.

>>149532971
>implying those aren't le ebin slav Druzhina xD, not Norsemen

>>149531425
what class you main in EDF senpai?

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>>149533420

Best mods before Bannerlord comes out?

>>149534139
Blood and Steel

christ this "disguise" system in diplomacy is so buggy and awful and pointless
i can only think about how much time SB spent implementing this awful feature that doesn't even work properly

Give it to me straight, guys.
Is Ironflesh a fucking scrub skill?

>>149534860
Yes, 10 points in iron flesh lets you take an extra hit, not worth it.

>>149534860
strength is a scrub attribute

>>149534860
Unless you are playing a mod that increases how much health it gives it isn't worth it.

>>149535024
I feel 12 is necessary.

>>149535024
but you need it to wear cool armor

the only Real Way to Play (tm) is to max charisma and int but not level surgery or leadership because those are scrub skills
max persuasion all the way

recommended build:
5 str 7 agi 27 int 27 cha

>>149535098
>>149535149
Looking kingly whilst atop your horse from a distance is okay I guess.

>>149529830
watching this show now
christianity is really rustling

>tfw furiously modding and playing mount&blade and you forget to eat for days

>>149535740
now i know how people in asia die playing vidya

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>>149535740
>you will never be as happy or addicted as this anon

>>149534461
what disguise system, you mean the one in native where you disguise yourself to go into towns?

>>149536456
no diplomacy 1.168 has a new disguise system where you can dress up as a guard, a merchant, a bard etc instead of just a pilgrim

you can only bring a limited amount of your inventory to sell and you can't sell prisoners or join tournaments when you sneak in

the main problem is that it's super buggy, any equipment you decide to take in magically loses all of its modifiers once you leave

>>149507009

If you have seen the town, you'd understand why.

Good luck laying siege to it by land, it's a fucking nightmare.

>>149537446
that sounds stupid and annoying

>>149537584
yeah but at least it can be toggled/turned off

>>149486468
best girl

I used to like ysolda but now she's ugly, hild a qt forever.

>>149537584
it doesn't even make sense honestly
you might not be able to sneak in a bunch of prisoners and equipment into the town to sell, but it's not like you can't arrange for the ransom broker or merchant to collect their goods outside the town

>>149538212
not to mention you went to the effort of sneaking into the town
and the reasons why you'd do that is to sell items, sell prisoners, or go to a tournament
really the native disguise thing is kinda dumb, you should just have your regular gear or do the second outfit thing in VC

>>149538424
the one upside of the diplomacy disguise system is that if you use a guard's outfit you'll have decent armor/weapons if you get caught

>>149538669
in native scenes you can usually kite them to obstacles and lure them so it isn't too big of a deal

>>149538875
depends on the town and faction imo
some of the towns the enemies spawn literally on top of you, and if the guards have lots of ranged weapons or heavy armor then that's also annoying

Why do you guys hate Floris and what are some good alternatives?

>>149539002
aren't all the guards the same troop? usually a lower tier one too
either way you should be able to pick the weapons you can bring in, maybe limit it to one handers

>>149535264
12 is ideal minimum while 9 is basically necessary because you need it to even hold a fucking sword.

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Whats the verdict on Viking Conquest?

>>149535582
What show

>>149535740
>not just being too lazy
I'm out of food and there's a family restaurant like 5 minutes away but I'm too lazy so I haven't eaten in 4 days. Watch my indolence become the death of me.

>>149539387
Still no Lolimod and therefore unplayable / 10

>>149539386
is str requirement dumb?

>>149539516
Space Patrol Luluco, seen people talk about it before, but I don't really know the general verdict on it.

>>149539716
For a common sword? Yes.

>>149540324
but if there isn't a str requirement then there's no str requirement to go up for a masterwork sword

>>149539516
>What show
The Last Kingdom tryna put viking women in their place

>>149539387
it's shit
boring gameplay, terrible combat, rocks are OP and theres no reason to not just use a spear.

>>149542053
>rocks are OP

>you can garrison your army and dismantle a bandit camp for max loot because you can only bring 6 people anyway
woah

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>>149542053
>rocks are OP

>>149542401
>>149542080
>40 damage
>not OP

>>149542828
>base damage of 9
put a helmet on and get a shield you retard

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>>149542053
>rocks are OP

>>149540250
I know what the anime is git

>>149540824
Is this the SJW one or the more accurate one
Or are both of them SJW

>>149539716
Depends what 9 STR entails. It seems like if you choose a background that involves any work at all you get 8-10 STR by default, so it's probably like DnD and anything under 9 is just you're a weakling.

>>149542053
On the topic of VC, how do i make money early in the game? It seems that without renown i cant really do anything.

>>149543960
tournament, trade, quests, points of interest

>>149543687
I don't know what you mean by SJW but History Channel's Vikings™ is the shitty one if you are into vikings and history.

Does anyone have the "shield wall" .webm from History Channel's Vikings™? That shit is hilarious.

>vaegirs are so fucking bad they got reinforcements before our siege tower even docked against their walls

>>149545218
So it was Vikings yeah
The one where viking girls get buttblasted at their husbands being alpha and raping girls.

>>149545218
Wait, what's the other one then?

>>149546964
The Last Kingdom.

>>149547006
Oh duh you said that already
Thanks

>>149547120
>Oh duh you said that already
>there only 2 people here
Ya fucked up

>>149545381
believe it or not but vaegirs were actually nerfed from earlier versions of mount&blade
the original marksmen had mail hauberks and scale cuirasses and battle axes
now they just have leather vests and leather coats

>>149529830
What movie is this?

>>149542053
>rocks are op
Can confirm

>>149534860
I only cranked that those training wheels up because I'm still learning how to not be shit at manual blocking.

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>>149542080
>>149542401

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dead

>Anon's ACOCK minimod

what is this like?

i dont watch game of memes, but is it still worth playing? any other mods to compare it to?

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>>149550947
>khergits
steppeniggers

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>when there's so much fog you can't see five foot in front of you
Good thing the elves have good eyes

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>>149552256
Erech is almost falling, no matter what I do it seems I can't stop this. I will keep defending this but the Gondor lords just suicide themselves and I occasionally need to lose one or two days riding north to get more elves.

I can't wait for the fresh life this thread will recieve when we exchange information on Bonerlord because nobody knows any strats or metas yet and we will just be having fun.

>>149552395
Isn't it just going to be Warband but with gudder graphics?

>it's another mom and dad fighting episode

e-epic

>>149552510
And a good deal more, non-retarded kingdom management and viable crime

>>149552510
Educate yourself, peasant

>tfw you shoot a random arrow across the map and it actually kills someone.

is there a better feel?

>>149535232
do weapon skills really matter? i plan on being on horseback and using a weapon+shield and maybe a few throwing axes

>>149553340
>it was the enemy lord
aw ye

are there any decent warband mods that use guns?

kinda tired of bows and crossbows

please no fire and sword

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>>149498950
>welsh

>>149554123
gekokujo has guns

>>149554748
does it have fackable bodies

why are crossbows so shit? it takes me 2 - 3 shots to kill anyone

>>149555535
no skill that ups the damage like Power Draw, I presume

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>>149555535
Get a good crossbow and aim for the head

Does Perisno require WSE?

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I love shootouts.

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>>149557462
I'm getting cucked.

>>149555535
get a siege crossbow

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>>149557868
rekt

>>149528953
I don't think an official video would use a fridge magnet as a computer tool.

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>>149552382
tolkien elves a shit

>>149550963
The only reason to play the mod is being a fan of GoT and even then it might not be enough to make up for it's bullshit. If you don't even like the source material, there's no reason to touch it.

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>>149543687
Merchant characters start with less than 8 STR at the beginning. I can imagine them wheezing jewishly as they try and fail to even lift a falchion.

>>149559163
fair enough

so poop if i want slight fantasy

Anything new since E3?

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>>149561304

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>>149561506

Why is PoP more popular than Perisno? The latter seems more polished, at least I'm my experience.

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>>149543960
Go to Friese. Go to the capital city. Buy wine, salt, and jewelry. Sell that shit at any other city. Make loads of money.

Go anywhere else. Buy wool. Go to Friese. Sell it at the capital. Make loads of money.

>>149543960
What >>149562705 said. Sell the wine and jewelry as quick as you can (between 650-750 for the wine 750-1100 for the jewelry) otherwise your men will steal it.
While buying wool buy also iron. Especially if you can find it under 100 since it sells at +500 in Dorestad.

Do you still invariably get cucked if you have a wife in Viking Conquest?

Holy shit, why is the empire in poop so stronk? They fucking wreck the noldor archers with those crossbowmen.

>>149514994
>literally manowar lyrics
why

>>149559067
jesus christ talk about bloat

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What are objectively the best options?

>>149564998
I'd add shield bash and rest if it doesn't add penalties for NOT resting.
That said I've never actually played vc so

>>149564998
Full Realism, though you may want to turn shield bash off if it annoys you too much.
You can go back to these options in the camp menu.

armagan yavuz and taleworlds have been arrested for being gulenists

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>You will never have a pure, steppe waifu

Why even live?

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>>149566337

>>149564998
Full realism, then tweak.

Make sure you think about how you want to level troops in this. On normal budget and levelling you will need to have a very healthy monetary supply to manage. 100 fairly average troops would cost you around 2000 gold a week. Troops also take forever to level unless you use "beginner" levelling. You'll tend to see about 1/10 new recruits manage to get to the next two upgrades without dying.

As for the other boxes, I keep all of them. They're all fairly minor really and there for roleplay value.

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>can take on those fags alone
>literally can click on it
>enemy reinforcements arriving soon
fuck

>>149563938
>your men steal your valuable trade goods while you are on a fucking ship in the middle of the ocean
>they get away with stealing something worth more than they are

Just fucking tweak that shit out. It's frustrating to have to edit text files, but well and truly fucking worth it.

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=323613.0

>>149547439
>>149540824

some thinking about dickplomacy:

so currently, when you are captured in a town or castle, there is a 30% chance of being set free, 30% chance of paying a ransom to get out, and a 40% chance of being forced to stay every 16 to 22 hours

why then, should the player ever choose to pay the ransom if they can keep waiting? I'm no big fan of RNG and this behavior just encourages savescumming. I think this should be changed so that your captivity is indefinite unless either a) you pay the ransom b) the war ends c) you cannot afford the ransom

if you refuse the ransom or cannot afford it the guards should have a nice cup of tea with you

do you think this is too harsh/annoying?

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>>149570402
>have a nice cup of tea with you

e-even if youre a dude?

>>149571081
it happens to captives in general, male or not. i believe some of the coup soldiers are currently enjoying some Turkish delight in prison as we speak

just remember, as the ancient greeks/romans have always said, it's not gay to fuck another man in the ass, only to be fucked in the ass

>>149480774
FUCK this image got me hard.