/acg/ Armored Core General: 1.30 is too slow for this board regulation

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>new thread
>page 10 before the first post
JUST

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Thread AP below 90%!

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>thread has reached page 10 twice in a row with no posts
>OP isn't even posting anymore
Press F to pay respects.

CUT MY THREAD INTO PIECES

THIS IS MY FINAL BUMP

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Let it die guys.

Not sure if this is the right place, it it would be interesting if there were some sort of game that combined AC gameplay with MOBA mechanics and objectives

This is depressing. Hopefully FROM will announce their new mech game within the next year.

A corpse should be left well alone

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>pic related
>thread dies
What if it the next installment included human appearances ingame like models or portraits?

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>Post
>Thread dies

Ah, Christ.

Wished I brought my controller to Europistan so I could play some MoA ;_; I'm having a serious AC withdrawal syndrome. Same with driving, I'm having all these dreams with my car. I'm tired of fucking public transport (even if it's top tier)

>>149449457
Just try keyboard anon.
Where are you, have you been shot or blown up yet?

Survive acg

>>149454498
It's had a hard life.

>>149439173
>implying that will help it

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>>149451636
I'll try I guess. I'm in Madrid for two more weeks, so the only danger is eh...getting unemployed?

How about that board game?

What is it that you wish?

>>149461365
What's the deal with that? First there was that dark souls one and now that's going to be a thing.

>>149447442
As long as they arent generic anime designs I am good.

>>149468948
>>149461365

Also that price. Wew.

SNFA this nitgh?

Bamp

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Live

Will anyone turn up to FNFA like this thread?

>>149478387
Nope.

>>149469347
>implying it won't end up looking like the tower series(manga and cancelled anime)

I need to read the novels. The art looks ok.

Seemed like the 3rd gen era was the most liked and the height of the series considering expanded media projects up to 2007

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>>149483239
>you then notice all MCs in the expanded materials are young(?) girls
>Salamander's kid
>Sparrow in anime+who ever was MC in Fort tower song novels
>Pilot of Double Heart
What does it mean?

Also picture quality was shit.

>>149484461
>you then notice all MCs in the expanded materials are young(?) girls

They are trying to fight Gundam, but instead of a cast of pretty boys, AC will use a cast of tomboy pretty girls.

>>149485843
Truly from understands the concept of waifuism.

I mean their other series shows that.

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>>149488859
> the concept of waifuism.
please explain

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so i've been playing for answer a bit recently
and i just want to state again that this is one of the best games ever made and i have no idea why it wasn't more popular.
i mean, yes, i love classic AC too. but i also understand why it isn't for everyone (same with 5)
but for answer is simply marvellous in so many ways. was it maybe because 4 wasn't really polished and tainted people's expectations?
every time i play this game, it just feels right.
the sense of scale, the sound effects, that comfy flying, totally customizable booster setups, interesting setting that begs to be read into... it's one of those games that every time you play it, you notice something you've never noticed before and it just makes you smile.
having a 1 on 1 firefight strafing through the desert shooting at each other, the buildings between you and your enemy simply turning into giant clouds of dust as you boost past them at 666km/h, it's just fucking beautiful.
did V really kill interest in the series? it's just so hard to believe that only 2 AC games have been released between now and for answer and the series is basically dead.
again for answer is fucking genius, miyazaki is my husbando and i don't see why more people don't love this wonderful game.

>>149493354
I will say a mix of mecha being niche and lack of advertisment.

>>149493354
A friend played 30 mins of 4, and he found it boring.

so what do you all play more FA or VDay

>>149493354
My brother never liked the aspect of spending much time building the AC.

>>149494443
FA for singleplayer, VD for multiplayer. At least I used to when VD was actually active.

>>149494546
I have both but I never got that far in VD so I might try that again.

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Dead SNFA is dead.

>>149496231
Please dont

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>>149496598
I'll be on at 8pm EST.

>>149494546
Stop saying VD multiplayer is dead, it isn't yet. You just have to network. Whenever Ahab and me are online we usually manage to get 4 people up pretty quickly, and sometimes an enemy team to sortie against. Otherwise, even if you don't ask anyone specifically there are still enough active teams that you can get a fight within 5 minutes max usually, assuming you play during active times (American afternoon mostly).

>>149497268
I'm the 360 guy.

>>149496992
I'm disappointed in whoever drew that, none of the parts look anything like they do ingame. I think the setup is LATONA head, LATONA or Aaliyah body, BFF arms, and Aaliyah legs.
And that weapon setup is ridiculous, wtf.

>>149497414
Oh. Well then forget my little rant and migrate to PS3.

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>>149497659
They're custom parts.

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>>149497659
Also.

>>149497659
obviously supposed to be Genobee from Nexus in FA fashion

>>149498037
The finale for Bleach is going to be horrible

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>>149498669

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>>149498830
Don't remind me.

>>149498830
Thanks God I droped years ago.

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>>149499391
Not even Kubo's fault though. Fucking Shonen Jump rushing him to finish.

>>149499943
why? does the cow run out of milk?

>>149500104
They need high sales and fresh blood, so they're getting rid of ancient series.

>>149500602
>meanwhile one piece is only 65% done and despite hiatuses, HxH still runs
>>149498548
That's the Silent line portable/Brave new world Lynx, right?

>>149500602
>fresh blood

In the sense of attracting younger audience? because that wont work much with japan birth rates.

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>>149500827
Well One Piece is the highest selling manga in the Japan so they wouldn't get rid of that. HxH, i have no idea how Togashi gets away with some many hiatuses and they still let him make his series.

>>149500906

>>149500827
Forgot to answer the other message. http://armoredcore.wikia.com/wiki/13

The next AC game a different gameplay genre from all the rest. What do you choose /acg/?

>>149503631
SRPG like Front Mission.

>>149503631
RTS

AC have a lot of different types of machines, economy, even if small, is part of the game too, so a RTS could show off many MTs, ACs, special weapons and even arms forts if is made on FA time, everthing together to throw a gigantic army of mechas agaisnt each other.

>>149496231
Sorry I won't be able to make it tonight.

>>149503631
Platformer

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>>149505791

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>>149505791

>>149498669
Except for the stupid "this is my cool OC xD" shit in the upper left corner. Maybe that was added by some retard who found the pic tho

>>149503631
Danmaku

>>149506349
>>149506463
Deal with it, I will be there next week.

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>>149507384

>>149507596
>Depressed Space Dandy

that episode was so weird.

>>149507876
Do you still wanna play or do you just wanna reschedule for next week?

>>149508094
I will come and see if more people shows up, we can have some 1vs1 for a while,but if after a hour no more people appear, lets call it a day.

How much tuning points for gacharin?

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Lobby is now up, come get your games in on FA.

D-Roy here, won't be able to join until next week. As in, I'm choosing not to join right now because last week's SNFA was pretty good and I don't want to get my PS3 out of storage again.

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>>149449457
That setup. We must be bros.

>>149507336
I've gotten used evading sawa shots and faggot vertical missiles, why not.

>>149503894
Now this is brilliant.

>>149493354
Mechs are making comeback now JECK, with everyone tries their hard to do some sort of sci-fi shit from shooters to RTS and other genre. Im just hoping on Titanfall 2 can get the mechs interest piqued in mainstream games.

Any rooms

>>149511910
I wanted criticisms on my shit nexts

Best FCS for grenade?

>>149514194
We're playing right now, come join.

Cosmic Break was the best AC game on PC.

I dunno how I even died that match.
Was j close to my explosion? Pile? Kojima?

>leave to fix AC
>no rooms

>>149517754
When you leave there's no reason to wait until you say when you get back, so they probably started the game. Communicate with anon's in the /acg/ chat on PSN instead of on here when you're playing with them.

>>149515005
50% depends on whether you can keep the enemy in the lockbox. The other 50% is comparing the FCS range with the weapon range. Don't choose an FCS that has half the range of the weapon just because the lockbox is bigger.

>>149523813
Actually whether or not a grenade will land depends 50% on if they are on the ground or not and 50% on latency.

>>149524067
I've never played online, so I wouldn't know. I thought it was single player.

>>149523813
Sorry this counts for FA?
Thanks though

>>149530483
Is that an AC model ported into the source engine?

>>149507336
I just think on each stage using the VOB agaisnt other high speed enemies.

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>>149532006
Already a thing. The lead machine in this game is even called the Vanguard and looks somewhat like a Rayleonard design.

>>149512751
>Mechs are making comeback
I want to belive, but we need something light the interest in people, seeing how titanfall 1 did, I have my doubts that titanfall 2 will be able to do something.

>>149532190
But wasnt that game the red mistake of FROM?

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>>149532329
It was pretty bad but I liked it. I think modern day From could do a good job with a sequel of it seeing how fun the VOB missions in FA were.

>>149532329
>red mistake of
What the fuck does this phrase even mean?

>>149524883
It didn't, but this >>149524067 does.

pump

>Amuro cuts open the bridge of a cruiser so the crew gets sucked out to space
Man, 0079 has quite a few of these totally random dark moments.

>>149536632
That's back when the writers actually cared desu ne

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Those lazy anons, with all of their empty thread bumps. "In the name of /acg/." I'll sink the whole general to the bottom of page 10. You ready, Sage?

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It appears you have left me no choice. Initiating Plan D.

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What?! The thread discussion has cut out! Damn it, thread's saging! I can't 404 like this!

F

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>>149541501

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>>149532190
>>149532553
Somewhat? It's practically an Aaliyah

>>149536632
It's darker when you think his dad got lost the same way

>>149493354
>awful game mechanics
>extremely easy
>arms forts were huge letdowns
>broken online netcode
>some of the worst PS3 graphics
>less attractive looking than AC4
>some of the worst AI in the entire series
>most missions take 30 seconds or less
>barren landscapes with no color/graphics variation
>extremely long load times
>story doesn't make any sense unless you play it on hard mode

Compared to other AC games, the only thing FA did well was the gimmicky game experience (it feels cool to fly fast), and good voice acting. But as a game, on all qualified metrics and comparisons to other games, it failed in almost every category.

AC4 killed the series when Sega and Miyazaki teamed up to turn an annoying, boring, artistic mech game into a dumb action shooter and push it on the xbox crowd, but it failed to be either.

What we got were a bunch of pissed off fans who boycotted the game, and first time bros who bought AC4, thought it was pretty good, then never bought another game in the series and let it die in obscurity. Without Demon's Souls From would have gone bankrupt act FA, without a doubt.

I mean, Bad AC is still fun to play, but Bad AC is bad AC.

It's still better than V, but AC really got hurt by the switch to PS3 with 4, and FA and V were just casualties of that. VD is the only classically decent PS3 game, and only AFTER patches were finally released a year later.

>>149496992
>>149497659
>>149498037

They're not custom parts. They're last raven /SL parts from the PSP games made to look in FA style. I think it actually is an AC ripped straight from SL:P, color scheme and all.

It's "Collared Rank 0" that turns the weaboo trash cringe up to 11 for me.

>>149503631
Depends.

If the gameplay is totally different, but the game mechanics (customizable parts,free movement, lots of stats) remain the same, I'd still love it. Dark Souls is still close enough in mechanics to AC for me to love playing it, so as long as it's not more different than Dark Souls I'd be fine.

If it turned into an RTS or FF-style RPG though, I'd probably vomit and die from a stroke.

>>>149551202
Yo, anon who gave me dual face, I'm missing a part for it, I have the blade though but it may be something else.

What rewards do you get for destruction, or some hard more stuff?

I don't care how many threads we go through. I'm not some damn quitter. We'll keep bumping until the end of time.

>>149562479
I missed defeat no count. Ah

>>149565497
Let it end.

>>149562479
Most of the 'good' parts in FA only come from hard mode.

Honestly, I can only play AC4 or FA as hard mode only, the single player feels way too easy to engage me.

>tfw no one will ever mod Nexus-style controls into the old games

>>149568876
>All the hidden parts

>>149575329
>good railgun is in hardest mission on hard

This is going to be a long day.

>>149576372
By what, burning a different PS2 disc or using an action replay?

If you're emulating it, you can just set your own keymapping, otherwise I'm not sure what you expect people to do to make a PS2 game suddenly have dual analog support when it didn't originally.

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Just dropping this here

Also for those asking, yeah, Pendragon is the only female in Vagrant Guns

>just want to listen to AC4 ost authentically
>can't run PS3 music on FA

>>149581485

DELETE THIS

>>149565497
Well said Penny senpai.

>>149575329
Something that I really liked about 4/FA hard mode is that add a little more to the story with the appareance of more enemies, special weapons and dialogue.

Wish more games could do that as incentive to play higher difficulties aside from the obvious challenge

Last one I played was Ravens for PS2.
That's like ..AC 3.5 right?

Fill me in one what has come out since then.

I used to play this shit literally all day long and miss it.

>>149588403
Last Raven more like 3.75 considering 3, silent line and nexus. Series not annual anymore, last game was VD, 2013
4th gen on PS3 and Xbox.
Faster paced, more focus with aerial combat and more evasive(quick boosting with side dashing) 4 has dead online, for answer is good for story. has online
5th on last gen too. Different take, More slower, stuff like resistance triangles, glide like flight, wall jumping has multiplayer focus. 5 no online, Verdict Day has a team based mode as well as online.
Online for FA and VD not that active.

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>namefags
>barely any posting but bumps
I just wanted my comfy AC thread. Oh well, I guess the dream is long dead.

>>149593092
Do you have FA for PS3? I'm thinking about playing it and was wondering if you'd want to tag along.
Or if you have VD and are in Vagrant Guns, I could play some of that too and complete the story missions.

>>149593092

What do you suggest we talk about?

>>149593332
I only have AC on 360 at the moment but I'm considering just buying them again for ps3 to be able to have a more active VD community.
>>149593358
Literally anything AC related. We can talk about AC kits, we can talk about which mission in which game we found the hardest, we can talk about our favorite AC designs, and we can talk about what kind of builds we enjoy the most. I'm not asking for the thread to be a bustling hive of constant activity, and maybe I'm just being retarded, but it saddens me to see the state of this general. AC is a great series and I want us to keep being able to talk about it.

>>149594610
Shit, I've got FA on 360 but no live, sorry.

>>149594763
That's a shame. Well when I get around to buying AC for ps3 maybe we can play.

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>>149585128
I'm sorry Pen-Pen

>>149594610
I'm just waiting for answers to many of the unanswered ones.
Also, is assault cannon viable? Which shoulder wep? Specific gens?

I'm trying linstant arm and head+ torus body and dunno legs.

Wish I could use linstant's core but Energy drain bad.

>>149595336
I'm down to play pretty much any time.

Handgun>motorcobra

>>149596332
Assualt cannon can be viable on a fast ac and used at moderately close range. It hits hard so it doesn't need to get off that many shots but its also much less viable online in pvp fights unless you time it really well. Shoulder weapons aren't always something you want to slap onto your AC. Unless you have a build that makes good use of chain missiles or you focus on PA recovery, you probably wont be finding much use for them. There are a few that can be useful but keep in mind that they drain lots of energy that could otherwise be spent keeping your AC boosting. That being said, you should test what you think might be good to see if it works for your AC specifically. On a side note, if you do plan on suing the assault cannon, the shoulder add on ADDICT is used for giving you almost instant PA recovery. As for energy problems, you should try one with a high capacity if you find that it drains too fast. If you have trouble with regaining energy too slowly, then you should look into a generator with high output.

>everyone sounds mad abd their tones are bitter as fuck
Geez, I only blew up a cradle.

>>149605938
Stuff like this makes me want FROM to do an AC game that takes place in an alternate world war or something. I know that VD technically did that but I want a game that has that military feel with more of a militaristic campaign.

>>149593092
>worsethanhitler.jpg

Who voices your operator in For Answer?

>>149609526
Cindy Robinson? What I found from IMDb.
Most of the guys are uncredited. Though you can clock a lot.

>>149610990
>>149609390
100% her.
https://youtu.be/lo869WJv08w
Note fallout.

Now who was your favourite voice in FA?
I liked Dario Empio. That was a nice accent and his dialogue was nice to hear, like the Luster 13 fight.

>>149612757
Old King.
>that humming
Why was the voice acting and characterization in FA so good? What went right?

>>149613950
>10 million
He sounded so happy then.

I dunno. Got a better voice director? Comparing it to AC2-LR it's shocking. And it continued to be good with V, and From's VAs are good since 2009.
The bigger question is who voices Old King?

>>149615629
meant
>100 million!

>>149596332
>Also, is assault cannon viable?
Maybe. You have to unlock the secret. Good luck, because I've spent...
Oh cripes, I think it's been five or six years? About that much time trying to duplicate what I saw with no success. On top of this, as far as I can tell, nobody else has ever talked about this anywhere.
Okay so.
Lethaldose can home. Or lock. Or something. The shot can curve in transit. I saw it with my own eyes.
I was playing split screen with a buddy, Virtual Area B. I was goofing around and used a cannon weapon to hunker down and shoot at him. He shoots me with a Lethaldose, which I fail to dodge, and die instantly. So we rematch. This time I know it's coming and when he launches it at me I sideboost once to dodge it in kind of a cheeky minimalist sort of way.
The projectile then curves and slams into me for an instant kill. Blew both of our minds. To this day I still don't know what was going on with that.

So, if you can figure out how to make it do that, then I'm sure the Lethaldose will be an insane weapon. Until that point it's useless.

>>149621595
Tell me all you remember about this incident pls. What setups, what regulation? I wish to investigate for science

>>149609390
Jouster? He isn't that bad really. Just equip internal cluster mines and when he gets close just spray him with them.

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>Serene Haze's AC is the training bot
Never knew, I was interested in building it, but her rail is hard to get.

>>149621595
>it curves
This now interests me.

>>149625152
yeah having her AC as the training enemy is really a nice touch. I headcanon it as her training him when they aren't taking missions since she already plays the part of his teacher in a lot of ways. Using her AC schematic is also surprisingly viable and it really packs a punch.

>>149623638
All I solidly remember is that it was Virtual Area B. Regulations were either 2 or 3. I might actually still have his design saved, I'll take a look next time I pop in FA. I think he was in a HBP. No idea what I was in, probably a MBP.
>>149454864
Hey, Spain's close to Portugal. Try the quince while you're there.
>>149485843
>AC will use a cast of tomboy pretty girls.
Fund it.
>>149503631
Metroidvania.
>>149507119
If I remember right, the artist has drawn several cool things including some kind of massive plane-esque Arms Fort.
But then he found that new design from whichever portable game it was in, slapped that in the corner, and now it makes him look really dumb despite the other things he's drawn.
>>149512751
You.
We need to talk on Skype or Steam.
>>149597546
You take that back.

>>149612757
My favorite is VA in FA is withing Serena, Oldking and Dan moro.

>>149615629
>He sounded so happy then.
This and his voice when dying in carpals make hims bro tier for me, he really sounds pleased that meets you.

>>149628675
>Fund it.
Glad to know someones like the idea.

>>149638357
NEVER.

>>149638357

Do not taunt me.

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memo drawings on my phone

>>149615629
The voice for Old King reminded me of Nexus's Evangel. They both had an accent IIRC, but I can't find anything of Evangel from Nexus so I can't be sure. Maybe they're the same guy?

Sup, /ffxivg/ here to ask a question and give support in the name of mecha

Anyway, does anyone know of any mecha mobile games?

>>149644731
You mean phone games or handhelds? There's some AC games on PSP.

>>149647527
phone games friendo
>tfw sold psp some time ago

>>149631629
>can't find may greenfield's va
>or Old King
>or Roadie


Who wants to dog through the entire uncredited lost and match VAs?

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>back to bumping
Pls.
>>149638357
>PS3

>Ahab sings
I can't

>>149666297
What's?
If it's only one or a couple people, it's not the same

Anyone who on PS3 and got an AC4 save, for FA can I get the schematics of Ciliegio/test next.

Unless you get it from occupation of carpals.

Hell I wonder how to get the AC4 nexts.

>>149643824

You want a thick accent, try listening to Emeraude's spokesman in AC2.

I'd sum it up as someone rolling their R's and trying to be too much of a russian/irishman.

Anyone want to play some AF coop? I tried some VD, but Vagrant guns was completely quiet aside for me messing with the chat, probably because of timezones and shit.

>>149672409
I'm up for some FA coop.

Got a room ready?

>>149587183
FA hard mode should have just been normal mode.

>>149672409
Maybe.

>>149672738
I warn you though, it's on normal on my second run and i am not claiming to be the best player ever.
Currently trying to do that cabracan AF mission.

>>149621595
>Okay so.
>Lethaldose can home. Or lock. Or something. The shot can curve in transit. I saw it with my own eyes.
>I was playing split screen with a buddy, Virtual Area B. I was goofing around and used a cannon weapon to hunker down and shoot at him. He shoots me with a Lethaldose, which I fail to dodge, and die instantly. So we rematch. This time I know it's coming and when he launches it at me I sideboost once to dodge it in kind of a cheeky minimalist sort of way.
>The projectile then curves and slams into me for an instant kill. Blew both of our minds. To this day I still don't know what was going on with that.
>So, if you can figure out how to make it do that, then I'm sure the Lethaldose will be an insane weapon. Until that point it's useless.

Are you sure it wasn't just having its trajectory corrected via lag?

>>149672973
Fine be me.

Ready yet?

>>149673295
Yeah, I am. Should I invite you, I probably need a name to invite with. Also, does region matter that much if inviting? It defaults to Japan for some reason on my game.

>>149673602
Just create a room, i don't think region matters.

>>149673837
Room made, comment should be like "I have cancer"

>>149673938
>I have cancer
>no "I'm the cancer"

One job anon.

>>149674060
Thought about that right after making the room

Is it just me or is FA PS3 coop literally dead? Tried looking for games on partnership and found literally zero games.

Room is up, trying to get to the Defend Line Ark mission to get White Glints parts. Comment should be "I am Cancer" this time.
This coop matchmaking is kinda clunky to be honest, always having to make a new room and everything for a new mission.

To be honest, I am not sure if this whole COOP thing is working as I've intended, but at least someone is joining my sessions

>>149676465
You're welcome, buddy.

>>149675929
It's been dead since a couple months after release.
>>149673198
It was split screen, so unless my buddy is secretly Cu Chulainn I don't think that's the case.
>>149672409
Yeah, the timezone thing is a pretty major issue. If you're still on in about three and a half hours, I'll be on break so I'll probably get on.
>>149644731
The only names I know are Armored Strike, which is supposed to be like Worms, and Destroy Gunners, which is supposed to be fun but I don't know crap about it.
>>149581485
>it's only a few years
Maximum pussy repellent.

>>149676616
Thanks man, much appreciated. Much nicer to play with a friend than just alone. Also, I don't really trust those AI NEXTs you can hire, they take way too much money for what they offer in my opinion.

>>149676873
>It's been dead since a couple months after release.
Damn, that's a shame. Even worse that I jumped ship only lately.

Timezones are always a bitch, but I'll live with it.

>>149677156
>Also, I don't really trust those AI NEXTs you can hire, they take way too much money for what they offer in my opinion.

Yeah, it's better to go alone, especially on hard mode.

>>149677518
I'll probably get my ass handed to me on hard. Shit, I already struggled with red rum starka and that final battle with the two NEXTs.

>can't partnership Defend Lineark/Defeat White Glint
I have a sinking feeling about this.

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>>149679224
You'll be fine without my help on those missions.

>occupation of arteria carpals hard
How do?
Can't use blade 1.15.

>>149679342
I already dealt with white glint on the first run. Otsdarva went down easy, but fuck Fragile.
Piece of shit just kept circling me and chipping away my AP. Finished with 2265 AP left.

>>149679659
Try sniping with sniper cannons next time.

That's how i S ranked the mission, anyways.

>>149679585
Nvm
I did it.

>>149679810
Yeah, lost most of my AP when i tried to lure in Fragile to confined spaces and give him a good beatdown.
Tactic worked well enough against white glint when I got in a corner and charged his ass, fragile somehow managed to escape from the corner and busted my ass instead.

Anyway, I am going to get some groceries done real quick, mainly get some alcohol and would be up for some more games.

>>149682802
Cool, lemme know when you're up for more FA coop.

In the meantime, i'll be playing Pokemon Colosseum.

>>149683410
I've returned from the store alive, despite the jealous poorfags taunting me the whole way.


Next stop is Arteria Ulna.

That didn't go quite as planned, not in the slightest.
Fucking red rum, I hate you so much.

>>149687232
Shit, man.

Try again? Gonna whip out the sniper cannons if so.

>>149687281
My bad, I accidentally accepted the shit result instead of going for a retry.

Sorry senpai, looks like I'll have to play alone from this point onwards, missions don't allow for partnership.

I'll probably get some food quickly after I'm done with these missions, if I don't get wrecked too badly and would be up for some more coop later on, if you're fine playing with me again.

>>149689490
Sure, let me know if you're up for some, next time.

Okay, this is much harder than I expected. Not only are the two NEXTs ganging up on me, that horrendous FPS makes blading pretty much impossible.
I managed to land a couple of good shots on the quadruped, but that didn't seem to stop it at all.

>>149690061
Just get ally to be bait for red rum.
Just shoot up starka and keep distance. He dies easily.

Red rum I'm unsure again.

>>149690061

What is it with From and not having good FPS in their later games? Bloodborne and ACV are neck and neck in terms of how low you can go.

>>149691563
A nice anon helped carried me with the fight. Managed to quick boost my way towards red rum and slice it with a blade every now and then and finally managed to bring it down with the anon when I took some distance and started shitting my AS missiles.
I'd like to pretend that I actually did something in that game, but anon probably single-handedly dealt whit the two while I was busy trying to shit my AS missiles at their general direction. THe results were less than stellar too, both lost aprox 40grand dosh.

>>149691919
I had trouble here. A month back anons should remember a guy begging for help on it too.
I honestly used FCS which track it. I utilised Motorcobras.

I used heavy nexts like opening that can tank hits and used bazookas.

I can't remember much but good tracking and have something that keeps you in air, use reg 1.15 if you are pushed to.

Got two of our more frequent opponents online. Who wants to VD?

>>149551202
>awful game mechanics
such as?
>extremely easy
it's easy once you "get it" but the experience of learning the game from the ground up is fantastic, and i'd say it's one of the very very few games that does difficulty "right".
>arms forts were huge letdowns
ok now the AFs were too easy, seriously. they were super fun to fight though and their introductions mission-wise were stellar.
like coming into view of motherwill and just seeing it unload its entire salvo, those sound effects... it's still one of the best moments in games for me
>broken online netcode
never played online but when i did once for 20 seconds i died instantly so i'll give you that.
>some of the worst PS3 graphics
they had to make compromises to achieve what they were going for scale-wise. the game came out in 2008. the mechs themselves look incredible, that you must admit. and there are some areas that are simply beautiful, line ark comes to mind.
>less attractive looking than AC4
maybe. probably.
>some of the worst AI in the entire series
there weren't a lot of memorable fights, true, this was a dropped ball. red rum is probably one of the more memorable fights simply because her AI script feels more unique than the others.
>most missions take 30 seconds or less
again, if you know what you are doing. still, the game could have benefitted from longer missions like attacking B7 or even the mimir naval port missions. some are painfully short though it's true.
>barren landscapes with no color/graphics variation
the barren-ness is intentional i guess but probably also a compromise to get things running as smoothly as they could.
>extremely long load times
they're not horrible. maybe if it's not installed.
>story doesn't make any sense unless you play it on hard mode
but the realization that you were just moved around like a pawn once you do understand makes it pretty effective and i think takes good advantage of the medium to tell this kind of a story.

>>149551202
>good voice acting
that i gotta disagree, it was OK at best.
typical cliche anime delivery for the most-part.
>But as a game, on all qualified metrics and comparisons to other games, it failed in almost every category.
clearly those metrics are subjective.
personally what i like about games is when they make me feel like i've done something, like i was in control. playing FA literally felt like you were piloting a mech of your own design. even V/VD's ACs all felt "samey" in the piloting department; you had your "slow" ones and your "fast" ones. the level of customization in FA really made each AC you made feel distinct.
but also the game is full of tiny things that just set it apart of other games. like the comments your operator gives you at the end of missions depending on if you did well or not. the way her comments change over the course of the game. it's so small, so subtle, but effective. it's the mark of a good artist to do a lot with so little.
>Bad AC
>fun to play
it's got the workings of a well designed game. it's got a lot of care put into it, clearly. and, above all else - as you said - it's fun to play. it's not a bad video game.
sure it was risky to move away from what the first 900 armored games were doing, but they did, and they made a good game.
i think evolution-wise it's what the series needed. i mean any change would have been good. the core mechanics of the series were basically the same for about 10 years.

>>149691736
for answer with tons of plasma (see the mission defend anti-satellite cannons) are basically unplayable.
blighttown is pretty bad, as is ACV.
but i'm convinced this "bloodborne has an unplayable FPS" is a meme. i've played through the game multiple times and not once has it even come close to being a problem.
>>149695025
maybe i'll hop on in a bit if you're still around.

Do AI controlled NEXTs have ammo too in For Answer? I'm currently doing the Attack on Arteria Cranium and was wondering that if I should try a battle of attrition, make them waste their ammo and then cheese my way through the mission.

>>149697316
>like the comments your operator gives you at the end of missions depending on if you did well or not. the way her comments change over the course of the game. it's so small, so subtle, but effective. it's the mark of a good artist to do a lot with so little.

This. So much.

4 era had the best operators in the serie.

>Fiona
Starts the game as a naive and guilt plagued girl because they, in a way, force you to fight for anatolia. Becomes genuinely grateful and comes to care for you because on how you never showed discomfort on working for your new home and your team.

And the love part isnt forced.

>Serena/Kasumi
Starts the game as a stoic and kinda distant operator-mentor, when you do bad in the early missions she talks in a mixture of scolding and encoraging you to do better next time, like being concious that you are a rookie pilot and probably doing more thant you should. When you do good is just praise on how you are growing so fast, this evolves on respect and even admiration when near the end (aside from destruction path) because in a short time you have become one of the best pilots in the world and even decide to fight for the ideals you consider are right aside of just doing the things for money.

> We could use more soldiers like you.

You make her proud LYNX.

>>149697760
I think they do, since I have seeing Raiden dropping his massive grenade cannon sometimes.

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Anyone know anything about those Armored Core novelizations they did way back when? They did one for Master of Arena and something called "The Fake Illusions."

>>149699785
I managed to cheese my way through the mission.
Railgunned the fuck out of the other blade NEXT from behind cover, then moved in on Roy and finished him off with my ARs.
It was a cheap tactic and I should probably experiment way more on my AC assembly.

Dangit Jeck, find your mic.

>>149695025
Shit, I missed the party

>>149642207
Saved

>>149676873
It killed Freya's boner

>>149697760
Yes.

Noticed this in order matches and Occupation
>>149699612
>not just killing her along with 100 million

>>149697760
>Fragile order match
>did it on that one flat desert map because I'm retarded
>he flies around so fast I can't hit him, but he can't do enough damage to kill me with his machineguns
>he runs out of ammo eventually and purges all weapons, suddenly flying even FASTER
>I run out of ammo and pull out the reserve blades
>literally impossible to hit him
It was easy after I adjusted my build and used a non-retarded map, but still.

Most people consider 20-25 fps to be noticable, annoying, and unplayable.

FA would have frequent drops below 15 fps any time there were missiles, grenades, kojima particles, or plasma in the game.

I've asked this quite a few times, probably always at a bad moment.
Anyone here own the JP release of Armored Core Formula Front International for the PS2? I'd like to know if there's some easy way to identify between regular FF and the International release.
From what I've heard, the International release has english text option, yet was released only in Japan.

>>149708835
>not using Assault armour
You dummy. Same situation is Kisataki junction. Just OB and blow up.

>>149711482
I know how to do it now, I just had a really bad first encounter when I first got the game.

Speaking of assault armor, does anyone actually build ACs without it? It's far too useful for me to play the game without it.

>>149714004
Me. I've never really used it and always opt out of it. It's just useless weight for me, why would I bring it along then?

>>149714004
Either when high stat OB AC are used with blades, or when I'm rebuilding some AC4 ones or using enemy ones from FA.

Why are there so many ACs without it? Glint and Sumika namely.

Also I wish you could know what tuning it has.

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>Page 10
>letting it die mid discussion
This is the path chosen.

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>>149716297
>does huge damage
>instantly kills enemy PA so you can deal even more huge damage with your regular weapons
>don't even have to switch out to it or anything, activates with a simple button combo
Then again, I don't use back weapons (I always run the addon thrusters) so I guess I rely on AA and shoulder weapons more than most players do.

>>149716662
I thought White Glint did have AA?

Stop trying to die while I'm out running errands.

>>149741291
no

>>149709129
You know, the more I look around and read about this, the more I wonder about which version I have.
Let's look at this the simple way.
There's only one real result for Formula Front PS2 on Amazon. They seem to have PSP copies of International Edition and it has that subtitle on there whereas the PS2 version doesn't.
Thus, the listing probably isn't the IE, but it's not like there are any other options. If you're a gambling man, it's ~$8 - $20 to find out.

>>149741291
Got ya aniki

>>149714004
>>149716297
Any AC I build that has plenty of ammo or is based on close or long range I put high powered OB on instead. It comes in infinitely more useful against other players by controlling range.

The OB on AA units is sort of too weak to really use. All you do is ruin your PA, since you get at most half a second of extra range before they catch back up.

>>149719149

Sorry about that. Starbound 1.0 came out, so I wanted to see if it was worth the money I spent all those years ago.

it wasn't.

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Hey is this a dead franchise?

>>149722330
Joshua's white glint.

How is there even a general for this, it's like 500 years old

>>149762091
This is a hollow shell of one.

>>149742169
One way to find out was the text option which apparently you could set the language to english. Also it had more parts and missions apparnetly.
Thing is, according to wikipedia, International was also re-released on PS2 but I can't find any source or proof for the PS2 international at all.

>>149751326
Fuck Red Rum. Starka was a pushover, but Red Rum is a piece of shit and should be hanged.

>>149765332
>he doesn't AS missiles and explosives on a permaflight
also
>S rank hard
>with all those reverse legged normals everywhere

>>149766438
That's exactly how I've killed her in the end. Just spam shoulder and back unit AS missiles everywhere and blade her every now and then.

>>149756814
Nuh uh

>>149767037
I tended to use opening and just straight up blast her to hell. FCS that was good for fast moving bastards and stood there taking shots.

That or any fast guns to chip her PA.

>>149756814
Yes

>>149753236
There was a lack of good mono eyes in FA

>>149767485
Argyros, Judith.

>>149756814
There's a new game in the works and people are still playing the most recent last few games, so no, it's not dead.

But it's niche and has always been niche so don't expect to jump on a 10 year old title (like FA) and get lots of online matchmaking. Unless you live in Japan or something.

>>149762091
>500 years old
>Most recent game was 2 years ago
>15+ games in the franchise
>new one on the way
>Company has been consistently in the news for years

Educate yo' self

>>149768043
>Judith
Kek.
The only good ones are heavy.

Maybe Kraken/Holofernes? Does it even count?
Nothing looks like the Crest ones.

>>149768631
I just use the BFF head and pretend it's a mono-eye.If it was, it would be the best looking head in the game.

>>149768681
I prefer Hilbert. Best looking, works with lighter frames.

Alright, I'm feeling the itch for some AC.

The only consoles I own are a 360 and PS4, so I'm a little limited in my selection.

It's been so long, so I don't remember if 4 is worth playing now that 4A exists, and is 5 or Verdict day worth getting?

I bounced off of 5 pretty hard when it initially released.

>>149770358
Verdict Day is fun. After playing 4A for some time now, VD felt much easier to control, but I still managed to get my ass handed to me really nicely.
And with 3 damage types, you have to plan out your build even further.

for answer 360 ps3?

>>149772068
PS triple.

>>149772068
*or ps3

>>149770358
360 is pretty dead, 90% of the players on are PS3. There's no PS4 releases yet.

If you want single player, FA or Verdict Day are good. Verdict Day is a lot harder, but has a lot more content (hardcore mode is great)

FA is a lot easier and shorter. It's also less stable and you can't get the regulations/patches for it anymore like you can with VD.

If you like FA, 4 is worth playing. 4 is prettier but has all the problems of FA, x2, it's even shorter.

But if you want to do multiplayer, you pretty much HAVE to be on PS3. There's a few (like, single digit) 360 players in the community you could play with, but it can be hard to network.

The only game that you should simply avoid is Armored Core V. It has some great characters/voice actors, but is otherwise almost completely broken and requires online in order to actually play and tune weapons (the servers have been down since VD came out anyway) and offers really nothing that VD doesn't offer significantly better.

Aside from that, everything else you need to know about the games you can learn from gameplay footage or trailers/reviews.

>>149758954
there wasnt AA on 4.

>>149773037
Only that one NEXT at the end of 4 used AA, if i remember right.

>>149716662
>Why are there so many ACs without it? Glint and Sumika namely.
Because assault armor wasn't a thing in AC4 so why would their schematics have assault armor in them.

>>149702889
had to charge!!

>>149770358
There are a few of us on 360 and there used to be more. I'm usually down to play a few games of 4, FA, and VD. Hell, I opened a lobby on 360 FA yesterday just to see if anyone would join and I got someone instantly.

>>149773118
After you destroy it, it has a surge of kojima and explodes, but it never uses AA. AA is exclusive to FA.

>>149773663
Actually, 00-ARETHA can use AA, it does it more on hard mode than on normal, but it can use it on both modes, the shit can take anyone by surprise and end killing you.

>>149773261
Well that blows.

Going to be hard playing 4.

>>149777806
Still one of the best-designed/painted ACs in the franchise, I think. It's a shame she wasn't in the console games.

>>149778082
4 is easier than FA. No AA, a lot fewer powerful back weapons or arm weapons, BUT, everything is slower and grenades and machines are both ridiculously OP. You can absolutely slaughter everything in the game with just motorcobra and ogoto.

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>>149777806
>>149778170
Looks meh.

Anyone want to play something?
I've got FA and VD on PS3, I'd be up to play either one.
Still have the story to be completed in VD.

>Got EC-0307AB's
>Fuck yeah, these look awesome as shit, got to be really great
>They're infact shit
>Got Noblesse Oblige parts
>Fuck yeah, this looks awesome, got to be great
>Assemble Noblesse Oblige
>It's actually overweight and shit on 1.4

>>149782590
Maybe FA.
S ranking is a pain. Can't even use most shit because I can't use tuning. Then what the he'll is the limit used? 400?

>>149785036
Even with tuning?

Man 1.40 is shit

>>149785036
70% of the NEXTs you fight are overweight, it doesn't make any sense.

>>149778170
What was she in?

>>149778272
Also not to mention missions in 4 are all 50% shorter than in FA

>>149793682
Probably the only reason I had a chance against them.

>>149793828
>missions in 4 are all 50% shorter than in FA
But they were already short as shit in FA.

>>149793989
I know, and 4's missions are 50% shorter than FA's. Also every overweight AC you fight is made not-overweight when you fight them by developer magic. You probably had an easy time because every AC except White Glint and Stasis are shit.

>>149795262
I actually didn't have any problems with White Glint and Stasis went down quite fast too. it was Fragile who kept wrecking my shit, also Red Rum.

>>149795381
Well I wasn't implying they were hard, just that they are the only well-made ACs you fight in the game. Every other one is pretty much pointless because they're either too slow or have shitty weapons.

>>149795564
Yeah, after assembling white glint, I noticed that it was a very, very capable and nice NEXT.
There wasn't much it couldn't take on and those dual salines made it all the better.

>>149795839
the only thing that ruins WG is the lack of shoulders, and thats mainly the core's fault, it doesnt allow for many of the shoulder pieces if you change the arms, so if the thing barely can equip them, better just remove the option from the arms.

>>149797628
It doesn't help that any back weapons look retarded on the WG core, that thing looks wonderful completely bare.

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>>149798198
There's just something off about White Glint aesthetically. I can't bring myself to use any of the parts even though they're really good. It's strange because I actually like the design when I'm not piloting it myself.

>>149799118
The problem is that it's already perfect without back weapons, adding them just makes it look cluttered. It also doesn't help that the head literally only looks good with the core.

So, how do i S rank Unknown NEXT + No Count on hard mode?

Seems even sniping isn't doing the job.

>>149799840
Take minimal damage and use minimal ammunition. Try using a laser weapon or two, they don't deduct your score at the end of the level because they don't use actual ammunition.

>>149795262
Wait I'm confused.

You mean naturally they're overweight? Or even when tuned? Is is an FA-only issue, and 4 is more well designed?

Also seriously, does anyone have good AC4 schematics I can use? If not, can I use most without needing tuning, Can I use any non overweight AC without tuning?

>>149778272
>grenades op
Genobee run?

>>149800809
They are overwight both naturally and when tuined. For example, Thermidore's AC is extremely overweight, but when you fight him and Shinkai at the end of the League path he can move pretty fast and pretty much stay airborne forever. This is because the developers basically modified his stats to be something that is unachievable by the player. No matter how many points you put into load on his AC it will always be overweight, but when you fight him he's not.

It's intentionally done by the developers to basically force shitty designs they made to be good, you could argue it's an issue that none of the ACs they made were really that well designed.

>>149801903
Is this only really apparent in FA?

Well that's interesting. Does this affect all regulations?

Reminds me of what people say of LR, all H+. Maybe in universe high AMS=H+ esque If you think about it.

Then what the hell are the well designed ACs in FA with or without tuning outside of Custom parts(WG2 and Fragile)

>>149800045
I used a goddamned laser blade and switched the regulation to 1.15.

So disappointed i S ranked the mission like this.

>>149803828
I know that feel.
Did the same with most of the Late game Hardmodes.
It's wrong but all those chips though.

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>>149803828
Shameful

>>149804448
Otsdarva did nothing wrong.

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>>149804982
hush now

Continuing on Lethaldose Assault Cannon on Linstant(using Tellus core), What weapons work? What doesn't go over energy or weight capacity on light frames?
>>149807124
Nothing wrong.

I've only noticed you can see the Satellite Attack Cells on Cradle Maps.
Why wasn't there a mission destroying them with a VOB?

>>149801903
Except none of them are overweight in regulation 1.00, shitlord

>>149808447
Reg 1.40 is a mistake

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>>149807481
>I've only noticed you can see the Satellite Attack Cells on Cradle Maps.
WHAT

>>149810926
Some guy on YT pointed it out, so I checked myself.
Around edge/outside combat area line, look up. You can see what seems to be lasers/shooting stars and cylinders- like white objects.

Apparently they act different in all three cradle missions. Take back, they fire downwards if you get high enough. Defend, no response. Destroy, they start firing indirectly, what may be each other.

Serene haze says something unique with take back cradle 21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4yP5Dxl9NM

Pretty interesting.

>>149808447
1.40 is the way the game is intended to be played at this point faggot, it really doesn't matter how shitty it is

>>149810926

Yeah, they fire at you if you get too high up in the mission. They have terrible accuracy though.

>>149811698
Lines said:
>An attack? It came from outside cradle airspace.
>What in the world is that?
>The sky... The sky is filled with drones!
>Don't get too close. Get out of there! Evasive maneuvers!
>They're attacking indiscriminately!

Only in cradle 21

>>149812165
Is it? Only reason I see it is that it's the latest released. 1.00 is base.

But what's wrong with 1.00?

>>149813226
Nothing, it's arguably the best reg to play the game on. Every subsequent regulation released was either meant to balance or alter the gameplay in some way. 1.40 was for balance

>>149813343
>balance
>makes a lot of enemy NEXT builds unusable as a result
I guess with other areas but still.
But other than slowness, what has really changed with 1.4 to 1.0

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>>149811698
>>149812424
>>149812936
Well, shit. Does it trigger any dialogue in the Western version?

>>149785036
Laser cannons are never good.
>>149795564
>not well made
Well they are, for the wrong reg. You can't say it's shit design if 1.4 generally ignored the single player.

>>149815363
Then why the fuck do they have to look so awesome?

>>149815026
Anon I did it in English, same thing.

>>149815431
Enemy LYNX are good at design.
You feel it too don't you? The painful EN recharge.

>there are people who use regular laser as their back weapon
Hi, plasma and even kojima are better

>>149774165
The explosive blast it does is the giant canon on its arm. Sometimes it fires the canon into the sky and then the shell falls back to earth and explodes. When it stands still and points the gun at you it means hes going to shoot the shell at you. I'm pretty sure that he never uses actual AA and its just the massive blast radius of the shell.

>>149821918
Not him but but seems too similar to a kojima explosion. Takes mostly PA from what I seen.

>>149824401
Huh maybe I'll have to go fight him again and check.

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>00-Aretha
>no teleport behind you or pic related edits
I mean that fucking quick boost.

Too bad you can't run it.

>>149825523
Apparently he does more it if you're closer to him and on hard.

>>149821918
>>149824401
>>149825523
>>149825841

Aretha seems like a really complex boss for a guy who kinda went down in 1 minute.

>>149827849
You're describing most AC bosses by that case.

Really it's just AI's habit of using whatever the green dome energy explosion and if we can be sure it's proto-KRB.

>dead thread this quickly
Can't wait to make new thread in 8 hours.

>>149812165
>1.40 is the way the game is intended to be played
It's your own fault if you ruin your fun with shitty patches instead of playing something fun and somewhat balanced like 1.20.

I don't do multiplayer in FA so maybe 1.40 is better for competitive play, I can't say. But there's literally no reason not to switch to fun regs like 1.20 just to enjoy singleplayer.

>>149628675
call me on steam. You know it.

>>149821918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHn7II5qqik

around 1:53 you can see 00-ARETHA using the AA

>>149825841
Imagine if the hard mode gave him blade capacitie, and seeing both the 02-B and 00-ARETHA, will probably used some superpowered blades that will have range no normal for a CQC weapon.

>>149815431
Laser cannons are actually quite good, I don't know what that anon is talking about.

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>replaying For Answer
>get to Cabracan mission
>notice an info blurb mentioning that the mission takes place in the former colony of Sing
>"former"
>Anatolia's Merc and Joshua O'Brien failed to make a difference in the Sol Dios mission despite how hype it was and how much Fiona praises the two of you for kicking ass
>the colony ends up being some random battlefield that GA and Algebra are fighting over for petty reasons, and yet another battlefield where Strayed shows up and kills everyone for a few quick bucks
>this same battlefield where two heroes once fought against doomsday weapons to defend innocent civilians
It's the shit like this that gets to me.

>46 posters
I just want you to know /acg/, with this many posters I can think of at least four other generals that are more dead than we are.

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>>149844994
>didnt know the part of former colony of Sing, those moment FROM just love to punch the player that care about the lore.

Aw man fuck me. What's next? A sequel to FA where we have to destroy a HQ in former Anatolia?

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>>149845269
But they already mentioned that Anatolia was destroyed. Odstarva accuses Fiona of bringing down Anatolia, which implies that by taking the AC4 merc away, she left Anatolia unprotected and without a source of money. Adding to that is how Anatolia is burning in the distance in Seed a Barren Earth so they already suffered losses in AC4. And then in FA the AC4 merc is presumably killed by Strayed or by Odstarva. Just accept that we don't get happy ends in AC

>>149846484
I know is destroyed, but imagine going to there again and seeing it defiled by the cooporations and their stuff.

Cant leave the memories alone.

>>149846651
Ranker why did you take your name off

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>>149846484
>which implies that by taking the AC4 merc away, she left Anatolia unprotected and without a source of money
I don't think that was the real problem. Josh pretty much burned the place to the ground by the time AM arrives to stop him. Then the two duel each other right in the middle of Anatolia using the strongest Next of the era (AM is the top pilot by the end of the game) and a Frankenstein monster of a machine that emits so much radiation that it's lethal to the pilot. There's no possible way that Anatolia can even remain inhabitable after such a massive battle, especially when you consider the hard mode ending where a third combatant shows up and further pollutes everything, as if the regular duel wasn't bad enough.

I find it odd that Otsdarva even cared about Anatolia considering he was a Rayleonard guy previously, meaning he should be opposed to Anatolia by principle since they wiped out his original company. I think his comment was lost in translation or something and that he was really just calling AM and Fiona hypocrites since it was their own choices that led to Anatolia's downfall (they made the otherwise peaceful colony a major target by becoming high profile mercs, and then put the nail in the coffin by fighting in the middle of it with Primal Armor on) and that they're basically repeating their mistakes at the Line Ark battle (becoming high profile targets, attracting lots of attention and high ranking Lynx to face them, making Line Ark a legitimate threat that must be annihilated by the League, fighting right on top of it, etc).

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>>149846954
Sorry, posting in other threads. I didnt know you guys care so much for namefags. is no the first time I have done it.

>>149847062
well the reason of why the use AM for sustain, was because with Fiona's father death, they lost their econmic support and didnt have something to sell to the coorporations and still retaining their independency, Aspina at least have their expiriments with AMS and pilots so they can sell themselves as training or experimenta services. Anatolias use/force/sweet talk the merc since he was the only one with military expirience and luckly, with enough AMS to be a NEXT pilot if the side material translation is right.