/dfg/ Dwarf Fortress General

I'm gonna try getting into this game after work!

>>149393292
You mean when you come home this evening, or when you retired in a few decades?
Because with the development time of DF, both are reasonable assumptions.

>>149393398

To be fair the release times between versions seems to be getting quicker.

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s'garn on in your forts?

Currently everyone is locked inside the tavern due to an undead invasion, I've had to connect it subterrain-ly to my mining shaft and start working around the first cavern for food and such.

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>>149394914
>posting pics of a north american indian site that ISN'T pueblo indian
It's called DWARF fortress, not ELF forest retreat.

>>149394914
New embark, currently digging spots for stockpiles. Got some good migrants for once.

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>tfw toady's been explicit about adding more complex kobold sites

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>>149395720

I have that pic saved as a reference too.

It looks like the bards and such which keep trying to get into my fortress killed enough undead for them to finally piss off.

>>149394914
First cavern level has a bit of a problem with Giant Cave Spiders. I think they used to just melee trapped dwarves in their metal helms, but now they grab dorfs by the head and break their necks by shaking them. Not sure if any armor can protect against this. The last one killed 3 half trained militia before taking an axe to the cephalothorax.

There's a possessed leatherworker muttering something about thread in his workshop. He probably wants plant fiber thread, which ran out when I was making bags for glass production. May need to install a door.

I declared the dead axedwarves' possessions, including socks, free for the taking. Many plebs ran for the spoils and are now engaged in a mixed martial arts free-for-all with wandering trodgolytes. One carpenter went into a rage the second he saw a trodgolyte and chased it all over the place before kicking it to the floor and pummeling it to death with his fists. If he wants a comfy bed in the barracks, he can have it I guess.

Dead at 17, gone before it's time.

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>>149394914
I forgot to embark with an axe at the start of my new game and can't cut down any trees. i'm trying to figure out how to make shit to get an axe before i turn full elf

>>149399290
You must commit sudoku.

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>>149396964
I'm playing a custom race of orcs with a few castes, some are about the same size as humans and dwarves but a few are substantially bigger, I think they managed to kill 1 GCS while naked without any losses. Thankfully nothing else much spawned down there thanks to the 60 or so undead roaming around up the top.

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full of moneys going ape on my embark

hopefully they'll have better sense than going into the fort

>>149402176
here's hoping you avoid the curse of the Giant Gray Langur

>first successful fort
>completely self reliant, magma, military, trade goods, you name it
>fps suddenly drops during last half an hour from 60 to 15

kill me

Why do my retards keep getting stuck in trees? I've lost like half of my settlement because of it

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>>149402651
They suddenly started dying on their own.

>The Resus Macaque's head takes the full force of the impact and the part splits in gore!
>The Resus Macaque gives in to pain

what the hell

>>149402735

latest version? curious as to how the performance will increase

>>149402869
Trees are the worst!

>>149402869
Remember, you deal with elves and trees the same way: with the axe.

>>149404360
not current, 42.06

i found 2 layers of cavers recently, that might be it but honestly i dont know, since i didnt even venture inside yet.

>>149402735
>Forts lost to flooding:
2 (my first and third forts ever)
>Forts lost to tantrum spirals:
1 (my second fort)
>Forts lost to clowns:
2
>Forts lost to goblins, semimega- or megabeasts:
1

>Forts lost to FPS death, boredom, or a new version coming out with features incompatible with old worlds:
probably close to 100

such is DF

>>149404360
not much. it's been reported that worldgen is noticeably faster, and I'd agree with that

>>149406880
perhaps trying walling them off to reduce pathing lag

>>149406919
yeah I've noticed worldgen is a lot better now even with my usual 100 year history

>>149406991
yea that's kinda what im saying, no dwarves in the caverns, theyre walled in, but its the only significant thing that happened recently.

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>>149406919
I did sets of worlds with the same seed/world-gen/etc back to back, did one to the same year, took a couple minutes longer, did another for the same length of time, got a few years further, both of the 64 bit worlds also had several thousand additional units.

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what's a nice way to let water into your fortress?

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>>149407154
buckets

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>>149407226
fair enough

>>149407558

I find just zerg rushing a river for farms or whatever early on is a bad idea, it leaves your fortress design more limited, better to plan it out a bit later on with a proper drain and the ability to trap water in sections and such.

>>149410363
Dig it.

>>149396053
>>149394914
so is it me or is there an unusual amount of undead this release? I've been getting necro hobo intruders sneaking in trying to rob my corpse pile on a regular basis, not something I've ever seen before.

>>149410540

I just got another one less than 6 months later. Once they bugger off I'm gonna have to work out some sort of undead killing.. system

Could be world activation working faster

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>>149410363

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>>149410657
Knowledge transfers, people find books by necromancers and spread them around, sometimes with really fun consequences.

>>149413185
Which should be really fun when it interacts with the artifact transfer/inheritance system.

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I've never seen a game simulate monkey behavior so well. I've truly come to hate the things. The beasts suddenly show up in a group and set hell loose on my pasture. Disgusting.

>>149407126
The last update was supposed to have fixed the issue with history seeds not working properly, so you may want to try your test again. Just to eliminate the RNG contamination of your first test.

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>>149416440

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>>149412518

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>>149419487

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>>149419648

>when you go overboard with stairs

lnp when

>>149417998
32 bit and 64 bit seeds will vary, the newest one was in the official 64 bit release.

>>149420965
The 32vs64 image was in the test 64 bit, btw, I did a later one with the same sorts of results.

>>149417486

How's your monkey issues going?

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>>149422879
It's fine now. I holed myself in with pasture and all. so they just wander outside. I'll see that I never meet those giant monkeys.

How does one isolate nest boxes individually so that dwarfs can't take the eggs now that reproduction now longer works via spores?

>>149425202

Walls and doors, I like to have a hatchery and an eggery area, just lock the door on the hatchery.

>DF20XX
>be traveling entertainer/philosopher who usually just flees towns once your welcome is worn out
>Traveling down river Huckleberry Finn style
>Happen upon a large riverboat in the middle of the night
>Climb aboard quietly
>its a huge party
>Explore, go inside the cabins
>Some serious Eyes Wide Shut shit going down
>You are spotted and they ask who you are
>You wave around your trusty copy of The Lusty Anolewoman Maid and say you're a messenger for a nearby lord.
>They welcome you, insisting that this is all a wedding celebration. They ask you go to go outside and join the revelers on the deck.
>You keep asking questions about the distressed people who don't seem to be enjoying the wedding.
>Everyone removes their masks, witches and night trolls cackle madly and vampires bare their fangs
>Its a black sabbath consisting of foul creatures from across the world.
What do

>>149426537
Curse your god and hope they curse you back with the right syndrome.

>Hastur, Hastur, Hastur!

>>149426537
grapple them one by one and bruise their muscles and tear their tendons.

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>>149394914
Just embarked into a mountainside with the pop cap set to 7. Hoping for tetrahedrite, cassiterite, and bismuthite between the 5 deep metal rolls I'll have

>>149396014
Good, I always hated making it to one and it's just a bunch of crafts thrown about the surface.

>>149399290
Training axes don't cut anymore. If you're in older versions, deconstruct your wagon for 3 logs.

If you didn't embark with ores, a pick, or enough metal shit to melt you're fucked until autumn. Gather plants and cook biscuits then roasts so you can buy shit. Burn wood for ash for a fire safe building material if you can't get to stone.

>>149403227
Probably climbed up a tree and fell off cause they're shit at climbing.

>>149425202
Configure stockpiles or t,+,f to forbid the egg,

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>>149427226
>Training axes don't cut anymore. If you're in older versions, deconstruct your wagon for 3 logs.

I managed to mine into some gold fairly early, and deconstructed the wagon to make charcoal and made a golden axe. we're back in business.

dorfs weren't too happy to go this long without beds however, and the lack of barrels was a pain

>>149427226
>they're shit at climbing.

And fighting too, it seems. They're getting killed by ducks.

>>149428173
Monkeys gonna monkey. Good practice for your nerds, good meat for roasts, good skin for quivers and armor, good skull for a totem, and good bone to stud shit with to sell.

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Fucking brutal.

>>149428717
>gives in to pain
I should fucking think so
jesus

>>149393398
their is no development timeline though, or even an objective I think. it just grows and becomes more complex, like the world and stories it tries to create

historians might look back on DF in a millennium as one of first real organic alternate realities

im really fucking high

>>149428717
So you can break balls without mods now
Cool

So I commissioned an engraving of a god and the fucker drew himself hugging said god

>>149429183
DF has a big list of objectives but Toady inevitably adds a bunch of other shit to make those things work/more fleshed out.

Well, I've burnt myself out again. See you in another couple of years, /dfg/

>>149431327
Wait fampai, what' gimmick forts have you done?

>>149431232

will it ever be "done" though? imo most games only release that 1.0 to justify a price point, when it could be arguably complete before or after that release (if they keep improving it). minecraft being the foremost example.

I'm not ever on the bay 12 forums so I dunno what he has said but it seems pretty clear he doesn't care about commercializing a game with a 90 degree learning curve only turboautists play. if there's ever a 1.0 it'll probably be symbolic. the way he keeps striking out on tangents and just fleshing everything out I doubt he'll stop after that release unless he wants to change his life

but again I have no idea what he has said publicly

>>149432157
I'm pretty sure every other Bay 12 game is free my dude. Toady is an artist, literally.

>>149432460
my point exactly

>other bay 12 games

fuck, I had an epic save on LCS...

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Somehow my hunter wounded and failed to kill a giraffe. The hunter ran out of bolts and retreated.
The manager was headed to the well with a bucket and the giraffe attacked him and stomped him to death. All of my squads are chasing this fucking named giraffe around the surface. "Giftedsack" nice fucking name faggot.

>>149432157
He has a whole development plan. He'll have it mostly done in about 20 years then he'll piddle around as senility kills him.

>>149432742
giraffe's are pretty large. Hunt with squads with at least 1 hammer instead of hunters or put hunters through wrestling training with armor and shields so they're as good as they can get then have ample leather shit on hand for your hunter to pick up.

>>149432742
That bitch hid in a pond and got a silver warhammer in the fucking skull. DIE

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I have 42 living dorfs at the moment. None of them are named Urist...

>>149430928
Don't stand between a dwarf and his waifu

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>>149433623
>edgelord waifu

pleb tier

though as far as god of death names go, Midor the Massive Savageries is up there

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>equip miners with picks and wooden shields
>attack giant tortoise
>they start hitting it with shields and collapsing from exhaustion

>>149435694
Did you leave their mining labor on?

>>149436047
I did. Does it matter? Now I can't get them to disengage, they just keep collapsing and other dwarves bring them water

>>149436253
Nevermind, they ran away after I disbanded a squad
Good thing it was a tortoise, otherwise they'd be dead

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>>149418852
When the fuck will Toady add breast- and overshot waterwheels?

Is there anyone who does youtube videos of dorfort? I'm not very good and can't really get into it, but I would absolutely love to watch someone who's good at the game to do a little commentary while playing through.

>>149436253
It does matter. Lots.
http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=1451
This is an ancient bug every player should know about.

>>149436253
Read the wiki you dumb fucker

>>149436436
Jefmajor has a lot of old vids, there are a few current/ongoing series you can find if you just go to YT and filter by this month, like vinesauce joel, dastatic, and marcus aurelius

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>>149436431

at least you can sorta simulate it

>>149437052
You can if you hate your fps.

>Toady implements features to better represent flying creatures attacking as part of future mounted combat arc
>all the inevitable "peregrine falcons gibbing dwarves" bugs
>has to implement a limit to how frequently an AI checks to decide to carry away and drop things to prevent giant keas from dropping your dwarves off cliffs/stolen anvils on your dwarves constantly

>>149437494
>implying giant kea stealing citizens wouldn't be awesome

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haha I totally forgot to build the trade depot in time for the first caravan

it'll come if I build it now r-right? wiki says nothing so it must

>>149437579

You'll get a smaller caravan, the wagons won't spawn but I believe the dudes leading animals will.

>>149437641
huh. better than nothing still

>>149437559
>Roc plucks the ship captain off the deck moments after setting sail
>he was the only experienced sailor on the ship

>>149437991
>Implying the ships will ever get done.

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this fuck is here on vacation isn't he? he thinks he's having an adventure. I'll give him an adventure, in my foreign legion.

Rate my megabeast idea.
>wyvren
>grown adult size: Half that of average adult dragon
>Noxious breath attack that induces bad thoughts (and necrosis in open wounds it contacts if possible)
>Barbed tail, sting carries high-pain venom
>Blood causes blisters, dizziness, etc. on skin contact
Basically going with the idea of wyvrens being big shitty dragon-like carrion lovers that nobody with a functioning nose or brain would want to be around.

>>149438558
Ships are next after magic artifacts, comrade. Hell, Toady seems almost more excited for ships than magic. Maybe he'll try to tack them on with the excuse that they're important for getting artifacts to strange/remote locations.

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neat!

>>149439210
Lock her up! This way you're in control of 2 regions!
In all seriousness, did she travel away or is she still staying at your fortress?

>>149439859
When one of your citizens inherits an offsite title they stay at your site. They get promoted with your own nobles as well.

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Why would a trader's bodyguard suddenly lash out at my mayor? Also, there's something wrong with unarmed combat, that dwarf isn't even strong but somehow managed to damage guy's ankle through copper armor

>>149441862
Maybe your mayor is a former member of a bandit group or goblin civ?

>>149441862
They get in arguments cause they're tards. 3 of my dorfs killed themselves by trying to punch out a goblin poet then got dunked on by the master race.

>>149442529
Sounds dangerous, guess I'll train my mayor a little

Are there any consequences for killing visitors?
>>149442529
What happened to the goblin?

>>149442624
Goblin was fine. He kept fucking uppity nigger dorfs up until his troupe left.

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So basically, I've decided to make a series of info-graphics describing the different sites in DF.

Like many others, I was very confused when the new sites were added in 0.40. After over two years, I still have some trouble getting the grasp of what's what(especially in the elf sites). To make it easier for other players to navigate and comprehend the sites of the goblins, dwarves and elves, I've decided to describe them in a series of infographics.

I've started with the goblins. Next up is either the dwarf fort or the elf forest retreat. When I make the dorf infographic, I'll also try adding some info on how they're generated, in order to make it easier for players to navigate the often maze-like structure.

Anyway, here's a guide to the dark fortresses.

>>149442708

>Elf: Holy trees, nothing 2 see
>Goblin: Do you have access to a supercomputer? don't bother
>Human: Learn 2 read basically the only decent site
>Dwarf: I hope you like cramped spaces and no shops

Always appreciate more info to spoonfeed people though.

>>149442708
Great job anon!

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>>149442708
Fuck, I didn't notice the accidental rectangle around the "map and legend" text.

Here's a fixed version.

https://youtu.be/6rbPTQIdjmY

Holy crap.
Watch the video with Dwarf Fortress in mind.

Is there a way using DFHack to break a block that's part of an aquifer to let out the water using commands or scripts?
I can't find anything.

>>149442905
IIRC there's also a place where the goblins dump bodies and the thrash, I remember going to a spire, going down lots of stairs to the bottom of a big pit, below the living quarters, and finding it.

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>>149442905
Some critiques, the prison could use a better picture since those things are pretty fucking stupid most of the time, that is the most "open" one I have seen, more often it's just a shit load of 1x corridors, also worth noting the stairs down can be hidden under levers (last I played)

Also not all towers are spires and lead to the underworld, only ones that demons create

Otherwise looks good, I like your paint representation

>>149442961
>those shitty grimdark aesthetics
*tips tight leather pants*

>>149442961
I want to fucking watch this.

>>149419487
>3x3 staircase

>>149442961
A (Legendary Sword) AND elephants?

>I woke up... From a nightmare..

flashes forward towards elephants, demons, and training exercises gone too far.

>>149442905
That's great information
Add it to the pages linked here:

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Site

>>149442961
>medieval not-european fantasy setting
>blacks
laffin

>>149443149
>Some critiques, the prison could use a better picture since those things are pretty fucking stupid most of the time, that is the most "open" one I have seen, more often it's just a shit load of 1x corridors, also worth noting the stairs down can be hidden under levers (last I played)
I picked that one because it was aesthetically pleasing.

>Also not all towers are spires and lead to the underworld, only ones that demons create
Do you mean that as in the towers that each gobbo civ originates from? I didn't know that they could found new fortresses.

The wiki didn't give much info on the subject. Spoonfeed me a bit, and I'll change the infographic accordingly.

>>149443543
>I picked that one because it was aesthetically pleasing.
Fair deuce mate.

On your second question, I'm not certain why but some don't contain an underworld spire but I believe they do create new fortresses during world gen which is why a lot of them don't contain underworld spires in my experience - the wiki does indeed appear to be a bit sparse on information on the subject

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Milk for the Milk God! Cows to the Cow Throne!
Lelgassastres means lush princess by the way

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>design the fortress
>get to digging
>"you have discovered cavern"
Fuck that shit I'm using reveal next time.

Why the hell do non-militia dorfs act like lunatics and follow and attack apes, hungry heads, etc. My mason got himself seriously injured. They used to run away from keas which was stupid but this new behavior is even worse.

>>149444416

It depends on personal values I believe, some will run away still and others will face rush an entire squad of enemies

If I give the dorf species the [AMPHIBIOUS] token in my save game, will it apply to all the dorfs that currently exist? If i remove it afterwards will they return to normal?

>>149444616
Yup.

>>149444747
Time to build atlantis.

>>149444616
The game reads off of the text file like it does a script. If you change the script then all of the actors will change their behavior.

If you change it back then they will go back to being non-Navy Seal dwarfs.

>>149444774

Gonna have trouble building underwater. Best way I can see is to embark with temperature off then turning it back on once you're ready.

>>149444774
While that would be beautiful, I think you'll run into job cancellations, constructions being impossible to build where there's water, and the inability to go up/down in large bodies of water.

Soz.

>>149444965
No I just wanted to break a giant aquifer completely so I flood everything on the map with massive amounts of water.

>>149444416
Personal values. You gotta use the rapist and stay on top of shit.

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>>149443969
So I made some quick research using the last DFHack compatible version(43.03, which is a shame, since 64 bit would come in handy when exploring gobbo sites).

Apparently, only the underground spire is kept track of in legends mode. None of it shows up as a structure when explored in adv mode, however.

In any case, I decided to just refer to it as the "main tower", since that's the word toady uses in the site map key file. I also added that the tower would contain a spire if it was constructed in a time before time.

I really hope that I'm getting this right. I don't want to be responsible for spreading misinfo among the playerbase.

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>>149445662

It looks fine m8, I just made an adventurer, I'll go investigate a dark fortress and see if I can find a spire in it.

Loving the armor/clothing damage.

>>149445662
>I really hope that I'm getting this right. I don't want to be responsible for spreading misinfo among the playerbase.
Put it on the wiki, please. If you're uncertain about something, note it on the talk page.

>>149445929
Rhinocerous man?

>>149445929
>literally crushing someone's skull and armor in one go

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>>149446158

Yeah, they're massive, 1,500,000, only elephant seal and sperm whale men are bigger.

When he kicks humans they go flying.

Hoping there's some way for me to forge some armor now though.

Are wrestlers viable vs undeads? And yes, I know hammers are most effective.

>>149446398
Yeah, I'd love them if they could jump.

>>149446609
Big guys jumping leads to plane crashes with no survivors

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>>149446609

Not having any problems here

>>149446027
I'm about to do that right now.

>>149446908
Great, thank you.

What's up with the recent nerfing of invasions? My fort has many millions in DB worth of useless crap and plenty of legendary beekeepers and nobles.

I have two full military units with steel/cotton candy equipment patiently waiting for a titan or ANYTHING to come up.

I've had two werebeast attacks but that's it (both controlled with minimal casualties BEFORE I had a military).

>>149446893
O-oh. I got them mixed up with desert tortoise men and saltwater crocmen.

>>149447372

I've played desert tortoise men, neat until your shell gets smacked off

>>149447429
I just wanted to play a hu(/animal)man bowling ball by tossing myself into everything. I was pretty disappointed. Rolling gait when?

>>149447429
(the part sails off in an arc)

>Gather plants
>Brew the inedible and uncookables
>Cook the seeds
Hnnnng

i understood workshops!

Guys.. Guys i think i can finally play the games!

>>149450205

I've said it before, plant gathering has made farming superfluous in the majority of biomes

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What music do my fellow dorf-wranglers listen to?

>>149450401
80s female pop from japan

>>149450401
old game music
80's anime music(shows like city hunter, dirty pair and yawara have amazing soundtracks)
vaporshit
italo disco
synthpop
house

>>149450401
The megas/The protomen on loop.

>>149447003
There you go. All pages related to gobbo sites have been updated(and the misinfo about the living pits and work pits have been removed). I also added the infographic to the dark fortress page.

I'll probably update the other site pages as I go along with my work, too.

>>149450401
This mostly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLp_Hh6DKWc

Or the following when I'm feeling especially dwarfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le4B9T12zbs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TmZFm6NHfA

This on endless loop.

>>149450401
When I'm about to bring the circus to town.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqg3l3r_DRI

>Beekeeper/broker/bookkeeper/manager is bitter as fuck about everything
>All he does is eat, drink, poop, sleep, andeither pray or fucking meditate in the temple all fucking day

>>149450332
I'm actually surprised that most "how to" guides don't include plant gathering as a necessary part to a fort.

>>149452601
Surface is a dangerous distant pest that gets dorfs killed on gather/haul jobs or wasted on patrols/training assignments

>>149452694

It takes little to get enough food for a long time, I usually mark about 1/4 the map right after I dig food storage (I embark with 2 +5 gatherers) and that does me a long time, and then just after a siege when dudes are running around grabbing goblinite I also designate large portions.

>>149452694
They provide alternative food for your fort 90% of the time and alert and distract your fort from invaders the other 10%.

How can you not love them?

>>149450401

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxow47e0DO0

Listening to this atm, although I'm not currently playing DF.

Can miasma kill dwarves? One of my visitors dropped dead for some reason and by the time I noticed it the whole dining room was covered in vomit. Then one of the dwarves just died

>>149453891
No

>>149395720
Hey man at least they hated trees
>Captcha: Trees

>>149453986
You sure? Because in legends mode his cause of death is suffocation

>urist cancels store item in stockpile; item inaccessible.

lads is there a DFHack command that i can use to determine what the problem is, the fort is fucking huge, theres no way i can spend time disabling each stockpile to determine the problem.

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Is it still possible for dwarves to throw parties?

Everybody would rather go socialize in the tavern rather than go to the designated dining hall which the wiki says where parties and marriages can happen.

>>149454602
Yes. All kinds of weird shit could have done it.

>>149454602
>>149453891
alcohol poisoning

>>149455159
Well I understand a human dying after consuming alcohol for three months straight, but why would a fucking dwarf die from alcohol poisoning?

>>149455264

You said visitor, are you sure it was a dwarf?

>>149455264
He caught the clap.

>>149455375
First a human died, after I removed his body my dwarf was found dead in the middle of a tavern. His memorial said nothing about the cause of death so I copied the save and checked legends. It says he suffocated
I also have a hospital and plenty of free doctors yet apparently they didn't bother or he died instantly

>>149455513
Wait I'm retarded, I was able to see his memorial using 't'. It clearly states that he suffocated

>>149455513
He probably got punched in the neck or fell off of nothing. I had that once, dorf skidded into the ground in the doorway for no reasion, cut his upper nerve and suffocated like a bitch.

>>149455752
There's no combat report for him

Okay apparently dwarves will drink as much as they can in a tavern as long as there's somebody to serve drinks and stockpile inside a tavern and deaths from alcohol poisoning report as suffocation
I wonder if Toady intended that

What should a tavern sleeping room have besides a bed?

>>149456943
Same as usual, 1x5, smooth, engrave something neutral, statue, bed, cabinet, coffer, door,

>>149454616
lads please

>>149392879
I have a fortress just like that.
except the corpses are dwarfs who committed suicide following a siege

>>149457204

Perhaps a corpse or something up a tree or in an unrevealed area which would otherwise be pathable, have you explored all your caverns?

The only time I get these constantly is in the scenario I mentioned above.

>>149457352
it might be the logs from chopped down trees that fell into a river, i just forbade all of them and ill see what happens. im still relatively new at the game, my bad, need to get a hang of these things

>>149457676

Off the top of my head I don't think dwarves will ever get that message for things in water unless perhaps it's going from like 3/7 to whatever they don't like walking in

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>>149447043

The world activation update made it so enemy armies physically have to travel across land to attack you.

You'll be attacked more frequently by invaders the closer you embark your fortress to them now.

>>149457998
it was actually either that or the clothing of a fisherdwarf and her baby that were standing on the ice when it melted. rip

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>>149457205

>home for dorfs
>wooden bridges
>not obsidian or steel

no wonder the fuckers were suicidal. They must be fucking ashamed to look and touch this elf spunk every day of their fucking miserable life

>>149460636
The best fort design is one that requires killing most trees, so he's on the right track.

However, there ARE better ways to do it. Clear glass windows and blocks are good, because they let you use two logs per item(one for fuel, one for ash).

>>149460953
Clear glass, spore trees, lay pewter, black bronze, pitchblende, rutile, glumprong, kimberlite and nether-cap is the tits.

>>149461265
>lay pewter
>black bronze
I love the way these look, I so rarely have enough of all those metals to dick around with them though

>it's another "anon uses the massive oversupply of tetrahedrite to make billon cabinets for everyone" episode

>>149462949
It's not too bad imo though. You can get around 30 bars of imported shit from bars, ores, and various melts.

>>149463539
I guess. if you were just using it for patterned floors or something, that would be enough

>>149463680
You'll get around 80-120 bars or 40 furniture of black bronze and half that of lay pewter per year. Do a pop cap of around 60-80, keep your jobs low and hauler count high, seal off dumped tunnels and you'll whiz by.

>>149463874
I'm not saying it's impossible or even hard, I just always end up decorating with things I have on-site (even if they're not as pretty) because I can do it way faster
re-arranging and re-decorating already finished areas is too much for my autism level

>>149443525
without watching the video, BBC production? they fucking love doing that shit. Guinevere, Lancelot, Queen Anne, all BLACKED

>>149464061
Eskimo king arthur when?
Attack helicopter merlin when?
Aboriginal dwarf mordred when?
Korean without $120,000 of plastic surgery for some knight when?

>>149464415
>Korean without $120,000 of plastic surgery
on what planet are you going to find someone capable of filling that role?

>>149464061
it must be le guldural margsism xD

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I've never heard of a Marsh Titan before

>>149465149
>pumpkin exoskeleton
Sounds squishy as fuck

>>149465298
Color.

>>149465149
I can't remember, do spider-shaped titans automatically have webs like spider-shaped FBs do?

>>149465636
No.

I've created a shoddy fort in a Terrifying forest, and drafted all non-essential personnel into the military.

Needless to say, casualty rates are absurdly high but the survivors aren't bad soldiers despite my haphazard training plan.

However, I'd like to make them slightly better and add to the atrocities of my training camp. Is it still possible to numb dwarves to pain by burning off their skin? Is magma mist the way to do it?

>>149465636
well my watchtower dorf is currently on the ground crossbowing the shit out of it and it isn't shooting anything. I need to lock those doors or something

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>>149465636
That's weird because I could swear they always had webs if they were spider-shaped.

>>149465636
They would if the spider they were based on span webs, but tarantulas don't.

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>>149468806

how the hell do I identify relevant gods to my fortress for engraving? are they under historical figures?

I'm getting bored. Nothing's happening in my fort. Some guys just gone insane after not being able to build an artifact, they're the only deaths. I've had no hostiles come in or anything, didn't generate a world with low amount of evil around either. There's no rare materials or any gems around, just obisidian everywhere. I'm training 2 squads simultaneously so I've got some axe dwarves and lords ready to knock shit up. I've had problems with water but sorted it all out. The last 5 hours I've just been accepting migrants and building bedrooms for everyone. What the fuck should I do?

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what could possibly go wrong

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>>149471804
inorite

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fuuuuuuuuuckkkkk I breached hell in my 6 year 260dorf mountainhomes

I have 3 elite squads of axe and sword dorfs decked out in adamantine.

I'm fucked unless I close it off right? what if I just flood it?

>>149472916
>260 dorf
>fps 152985
what

>>149473771
*PAUSED*
I've seen it do that sometimes before

>>149472916
>what if I just flood it?
clowns can swim through water or magma

>>149472916
what the fuck do you play on

>>149459363
A little late, I know.
The leading cause of item inaccessible spam is items (most often corpses and body parts) in unrevealed portions of accessible caverns. The dwarves know that the items are there and that it's possible to path to them, but can't find the path because you haven't revealed the location of the items yet. Dwarves won't try to stockpile items they can't path to, so it's not likely to be stuff underwater unless the water level is fluctuating rapidly, as anon suggested. Also, a dwarf with a baby would be married, so unless her husband died too, the cancellation message would "cancels store owned item", as the husband would gain ownership of mom's possessions.

>>149472916
You might be able to beat them with that setup depending on what kinds of demons you rolled. It's not likely, but possible. Post your units screen, and note any demons with deadly dust, poisonous vapors or deadly blood, and also any that are made of fire.

>>149465904
>>149465636
>>149466317
They do, but not if they're tarantulas. It's a strange thing; RL tarantulas don't spin catch webs like most other spiders, but typically use a lot more web on their burrows or tree houses than other spiders, and many (but not all, especially not new-world tarantulas) wrap their food before eating it like most other spiders. It seems Toady did a little superficial research on the subject and used the catch web difference as the basis for the in game distinction.

>Df 2020
>elves sell you a cool artifact mug
>massive human force of elite mounted knights backed by a moderately armed rabble of militiamen and peasants shows up a month later demanding the mug
>Led by a priest, they bear banners with images of the mug
do you give them the badass magical cup back

>>149474848
Oh, and webs too.

I hope we'll get petition-like screen for migrants one day.

>>149475417
hopefully it'll come bundled with some sort of long-term consequences for saying "no"
>a message from the king
>because you turned away the last 40 homeless fish dissectors, they all ended up squatting in a barn in the human hamlet of Shelteredcontained
>now, race riots and fights over food have broken out in the streets, and if you don't dispatch 100 units of food and a guard squad in the next month, it could lead to war with the humans

>>149476079
Jeeze at this point it'd be easier to just have their meeting zone at an atom smasher and wipe away the undesirables.

>>149475293
That'll be like df2017 if anything, maybe df2018.

>>149475238
Yeah, I was showing the missus some of the really friendly ones like Euathalus Sp. Red/Yellow/Orange and she's gotten to the point that she wants one. Still has issues with roaches (like deep seated running into traffic to get away from one) but getting her accustomed to thinking of various insects as cute pets helps her deal with the irrational side of her fear.

>>149476161
>another message from the king
>the riots at Shelteredcontained have now ended
>unfortunately, the guards you sent elected to stop the conflict by luring all of the human residents below a bridge with promises of "free booze" and lowering it onto them
>they've also taken the decision to dismantle the buildings of the hamlet, block by block and log by log, and crush all of that under the bridge as well
>I have no idea where they learned this stuff

So after the economy arc(whenever that happens) will it mean that human civs you sell a lot of steel to will use it to forge arms and arma that could potentially be used against you later on?

>>149476971
they'll invade you with an army of 50
one dude holding a steel spear, the rest using inferior metals
they'll all have steel earrings, and steel-studded backpacks full of steel dildos and steel penis pumps

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>>149472916

rip fort

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>>149476767
>send a message to the king
>It is a masterwork quality parchment.
>On the parchment is pic related menacing with spikes of plump helm.

Any way to designate an item to be used specifically within a certain location only?

>dwarfs one day able to commission trinkets for themselves
>inordinate amount of "*Urist* and the animal person are embracing" requests

What are the effects of mummy curses exactly? I can't find any concrete changes on my attributes, health or the medical history tab

>>149478527
It's a flat pass/fail roll on every action you take that requires a skill check before the actual skill check happens. I can't remember what the fail chance is, but it's pretty significant.

>>149478996
I chose my words poorly there, I don't know if the curse check happens before or after your skill check, or whether it would make a difference. I should have just said "in addition to".

>>149472916
Nah,. you need close to 160 full legend dorfs and even then you need to cheese a lot of it with pitted stones, steel ballistas, checkerboard obsidianizers and more. All at 2 fps.

How do I make cool ass ramp stairs so I can appease the FPS forgotten beast? I channel downward and my dwarves get stuck.

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>>149479910
don't channel downward at exactly the same coordinate, I guess
ramps need a wall beside them and will then take you up 1 z-level

I like to do this, although it's just for fun and not for FPS reasons. 3-wide is excessive too, I just like the way it looks

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>>149477207
>phoebus
It deserved this end.

>>149479910
Ramps aren't going to do anything for your fps. If anything they'll hurt your fps, unless you do a rampway that only moves in one x or y direction like a sloped hallway..

>>149450401
I just get osu! songs stuck in my head these days

never really gave a shit to build up a library after my old hard drive and phone bit the dust

are FPS problems still a thing in big ass forts in 64-bit or has no one even tried because y'all not badass enough to play without the rapist

huh, I always thought forgotten beasts were mined out of the ground, but wiki says the actually prowl around the caverns

>>149483668
Hits you a bit later in some cases.

>Urists masterwork has been lost

did the fucking hummies just off with my bins that i forgot to bring back from the depot?

>>149483668
The difference is barely noticeable, and possibly just placebo/wishful thinking.

>>149483668
it's barely any different
at about 100 dwarves and 10 visitors after 3.5 years (I think) I was down to about 60 FPS, falling to 30-40 when caravans arrived, which is pretty normal for my computer

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Fellow Urists,

Toady optimizing the game so we get less FPS death when?
What is the most fps-friendly layout of stairs?
How do I secure my fort now that the fucking goblins can and will climb the walls and fortifications?
How do I stop fucking dwarves from falling off the fortifications when they attack/are attacked?
Should I cook stuff in the kitchen at all?
One of my forts is about 5 years old and there were no visitors to my tavern and library. The fort is located on a peninsula by the sea. What I might be doing wrong?

>>149484998
>mined out of the ground
What?

>>149486676
When he's near enough 1.0 that he's pretty much done. He's against having to redo shit over and over as he adds more

Stop building above ground you dipshit. 1x3 ramp down to the magma sea, bucket irrigate a farm and go nuts. Make the fortifications overhangs and roof it over
Yes. It's a quality and happiness bonus and it's a great trade good.

>>149486676
I am not now, nor have I ever been a dagger. I do not forsee becoming one in the future.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Maximizing_framerate

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Defense_guide

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Kitchen#What_to_cook

Proximity, fort value, etc etc. I would've given you a wiki link for that as well, but the wiki is pretty incomplete. I suggest you poke around on bay12.

>>149486676
>Toady optimizing the game so we get less FPS death when?
probably never, at least not leaps like you're presumably hoping for
>What is the most fps-friendly layout of stairs?
just put everything on the surface, live with the trees, grow some "hemp" and chill out
>How do I secure my fort now that the fucking goblins can and will climb the walls and fortifications?
if you have an overhang on your wall (eg. 2nd z-layer of wall extends 1 tile beyond the 1st z-layer on all sides of the fort), they won't be able to climb it. walls higher than 2 z-levels made from stone blocks (as opposed to rough stone) are very tough to climb, but it's not 100%
alternatively, fuck walls, move underground. what the fuck do you need walls for?
>How do I stop fucking dwarves from falling off the fortifications when they attack/are attacked?
dwarves act like retards whenever they can. I'd say make every single wall that's going to be near combat (or sparring) 2 tiles thick, make sure there's absolutely no way they can climb over the top (overhang as above might be a good idea), and hope for the best
but really, fuck walls/fortifications, you're mostly wasting your time
>Should I cook stuff in the kitchen at all?
sure. some foods can't be eaten raw, and cooked meals can be extremely valuable (whatever that means - not much really, considering how easy it is to amass wealth)
just make sure you turn off cooking for things you don't want cooked through the kitchen screen (booze for sure, any fruit/plants you want to use for something else (booze?) and you might want to leave some tallow uncooked to make soap from since oil is generally a pain in the ass to produce
>One of my forts is about 5 years old and there were no visitors to my tavern and library. The fort is located on a peninsula by the sea. What I might be doing wrong?
export world data via legends mode (legends viewer is great) before you start your fort, take a a look at where things are and how many people are alive.

>>149486740
like, you hit a tile with a forbidden beast in it, and it spawns one

>>149487697
Why would you think that?

>>149488043
I dunno, I think the first one I saw killed a nearby miner almost immediately. I just thought they were entombed in the ground by whatever benevolent forces in the time before time and long since forgotten, hence their name. doesn't that make sense?

>>149486676
>Toady optimizing the game so we get less FPS death when?
early 2078
>What is the most fps-friendly layout of stairs?
layout doesn't matter, number of accessible paths/tiles does. So the least amount of stairs you need.
>How do I secure my fort now that the fucking goblins can and will climb the walls and fortifications?
A roof, you moron. seriously though, an overhang will defend you against climbers sufficiently. But that won't save you from the flyers.
>How do I stop fucking dwarves from falling off the fortifications when they attack/are attacked?
You don't.
>Should I cook stuff in the kitchen at all?
Of course, what are you playing, a kobold camp?
>One of my forts is about 5 years old and there were no visitors to my tavern and library. The fort is located on a peninsula by the sea. What I might be doing wrong?
Dozens of errors are possible. Read the wiki pages on taverns/library, check your init files (max visitor number), and legends mode - see if there are even any civilizations close to you.

The entrance stairs to my fort are covered in boar blood. is it possible to clean it?

>>149488467
it does, in a sense, a bit like clowns etc.
but I'd think the way DF introduces them as "The Forgotten Beast ___ has come" would lead you away from that conclusion

>>149488467
I guess if you haven't played fort mode it would make sense, but I don't know how anyone could think that who's ever had an even moderately successful fort could think that. The game pauses and recenters with a pop up announcement when they appear.

>>149488745
honestly looking back now I don't know where I got the idea from, aside from it making romantic sense in my mind.

on the other hand, it would kind of make sense that forts mining aggressively would be more likely to chance upon some long buried and forgotten horror. delving to deeply and too greedily, shadow and flame, you know the drill

>>149489028
I have indeed had very few even questionable successful forts

so i killed my first megabeast and it was pretty underwhelming. what can i do now? his corpse is just lying around. taxidermist workshop when?

>>149489149
I'm with you mostly
for me caverns are really neither here nor there. they're not nearly dangerous enough to be frightening to anyone who's played a fort or two before, and they're way too fucking BIG to ignore, but (even with the right adv. worldgen parameters) too chaotic and crowded to build major parts of your fort there
minor quibble. it just feels like "circus or nothing" in terms of underground threats to an established fort

>>149489723
what was its body made of?
make sure you have a butcher shop and a refuse stockpile

>>149489862
honestly haven't really dealt much with caverns in fort mode, they might be cooler if you only set one cavern level like super deep down but not like literally on top of the circus deep down. I feel like it might be cool to move an entire fort into a deep ass cavern, walled off of course. they are rather chaotic but that's nothing a shit ton of idling dwarfs can't fix, chopping everything down and mining it out. But again I dunno much about them. feels like it would be living the dwarf way though

I've had at least one pretty cool if extremely despairing journey through the caverns as an adventurer. my companion confided in me that her child was stolen by goblins so we traveled halfway across the world only to get slaughtered by trolls and for me to fall way down into a cavern. hours later I fucking cried when I got out onto the surface again.

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>>149490937
i do, i do. apparently it was spider-like so basically nothing.

>>149489723
>>149496405
I'm assuming you mean either a forgotten beast or a titan. Megabeast only refers to a few creatures and none of them are spiders.
Either way, fleshy fbs and titans yield a ton of meat and organs. You don't actually need a refuse pile to butcher them. Best practice is to build a butcher shop beside the coprse unless you want a dwarf to spend a season or more hauling it to a refuse pile. You can forbid the corpse to keep someone from scooping it up before your butcher shop is ready.

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>A kea has stolen a XX/dfg/XX!

>a towering humanoid composed of crystal glass, it has 2 stubby horns and it swishes and fwidgets, beware its poisonous vapors!

sounds dangerous as fuck, I expect this isn't the sort of glass you break with a punch

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>>149503404
It is, sadly.

Can't region alignment to be overhauled so you have ghostly cursed forests, tainted lands populated by foul beasts, twisted and corrupted forests fueled by fell idols and dire cultists etc.

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>>149503658

>>149504117
It can.

>>149505665
I meant to write "can't wait for"

>>149505958
Oh, then I meant to write "Me too".

Two of my fighters lost their right hands. Can they still hold weapons and fight, or should I retire them?

>>149506259
It should be fine so long as its a one handed weapon and they aren't trying to use a shield at the same time.

>>149506774
Thanks. I'll try to figure out something from there. Although, one of those that lost a right hand keeps flooding the announcements with "Urist cancels store owned item: too inured"

I need a cheap laptop for dwarf forting. Any requirements I should look for?

Also what kind of things can I do that ensure fun? My forts always die of stagnation or I just get bored after 10 years of nothingness and suicide everyone

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New combat mechanics are fun... fun!

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>>149507668
>not severing limbs with shear forces

>NPC interactions are finished, with whatever sorts of relationship mechanics Toady draws the line at
>Modders turn Dwarf Fortress into
>Doujin Premise Generator

>>149509997
>pound my slutty [ORIFICE_TRANS_NAME:NONE] senpai

>>149509105

Show off

>>149511984
Mostly just surprise, that was right after the update, I stopped using the axe once I found if I got strong enough first I could just punch and kick heads off.

>>149436657
this is the right way to point out someone's problem
>>149436669
this is the cunt way.

it's easy to miss bugs in this game, since they make up more of it than not.

>>149513327
>it's easy to miss bugs in this game, since they make up more of it than not.
troof
DF would be almost unrecognizable if every bug, known exploit, or dangling thread of an unfinished feature were suddenly corrected

>>149514204

Worse in some cases.

>>149514737
>arrow damage fixed
>danger room exploit corrected
>alcohol mood buff balanced

>>149515183

Well the training axe fix really buggered me up, I really liked that one.

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I've been having a vampire problem lately. Mostly children as the victims.
It turns out it was the mayor.

The wiki jokes about this, but seriously what do I do now?

>>149510738
>It is said [HOLDING IT TENDERLY] calms the beast
>I can't possibly believe my [MIDNIGHT TROLL SPOUSE] is this cute

>>149516623
Feed the mayor to the nearest FB

>>149503404
You won't be killing it with punches, but literally any metal weapons will work. Poisonous vapors are a bad roll, though. I don't recommend melee.

Can someone answer some questions about marksman training?

I've got a range and soon I'll build the squad, I'm following the wiki. Do I need to pump bolts out constantly or do the dwarves pick them back? Wiki says to put a pile specifically for bolts on top of the room, is it exactly so they don't need to recover them?

>>149516623

Restrict it with burrows its quarters

>>149519472

They will be recovered to your ammo stockpile by plebs if they're accessible, I don't think archers on duty will pick them up from the ground - only stockpiles, I could be wrong

>>149519472
[o]rders, [F]orbid, [p]: claim used ammunition. by default they'll leave spent ammo where it is. also they do break bolts on occasion

>>149519472
>>149521392
>>149521392
Bolts that don't embed into a creature always break if they land on the same z level they were fired from. If you want to recover training bolts channel out the tile in front of the archery target.

>>149507621

>Also what kind of things can I do that ensure fun? My forts always die of stagnation or I just get bored after 10 years of nothingness and suicide everyone

If you're not having fun then you're just bad at the game. There's tons of various projects on the wiki and certain conditions and "conducts" like you'd get in any roguelike that spices up the challenge and gives you goals to work for. DF is an open ended game with no real "end", so if you're finding you're out of ideas, you just have to think harder and stop playing like you're playing towards an end game where you just build up huge walls and close off your fort to the outside world and stay self sufficient underground. Live a little and experiment, faggot. That's the goal of the game. Nobody plays DF to play it safe.

>>149523320
is that new? I'm sure I've had them recover tons of training and hunting bolts in the past. can they recover them from dead creatures they're embedded in?

>>149516623
Wall him into his room and make him a recordkeeper/manager

>>149523472
not him and I'm not sure on the specifics, but it certainly seems to hold for a tight space like an archery range
my usual setup is something like this
___
X

where _ are channeled tiles and the X is the target, and the archers shoot from below

>>149523472
No, it's not new. I'm not sure how long it's been that way, but the first time I used it to recycle bolts was ~2011 or 2012. I suspect it's been that way for as long DF has had a z axis.

>>149523424

Forgot to include the link in my post.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Megaproject

And they have links to two other smaller scale project pages that are easier as well. And this is just the start. I've seen tons of other ideas just from here or over on the forums, various other conducts and self imposed restrictions, etc.

So, just stop playing safe and live a little. Making a self sustaining fort is only the beginning and is just a stable platform for you before you do some crazy shit. And if it's a good story, do like others have done and regale us with your tale.

>>149524702
Incidentally it works for ballista bolts too.

>>149521392
>>149521828
>>149523320


Alright, thanks. I think I'm getting the hang of this.

>>149531197
someday in a million years, toady will code for re-stacking of bolts in a way that doesn't reduce FPS to 3 every time someone does it. then it will be even less of a total nightmare to manage

>>149506259
I always give my fighters happy retirements once they lose a limb/organ/eye. Let them Socialize in the Taverns and Pray in the Temples!

>>149531595
I should do this next time
>clumsy speardwarf loses an arm and the opposite leg to a titan
>retire him from the militia
>assign him a performer occupation in the temple of death, decay, and betrayal that has 1 reluctant follower in the fort
>don't give him any instruments, just a crutch, and tell him to get dancing
>"just be urself bro"

Do nippon play dwarf fortress?

>>149534150
Oh my god. I can only imagine what kind of crazy bullshit they would come up with.

>>149534150
>Most casual country on the planet
>Touching an autism simulator

>>149535780
You're joking, right?

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>>149535780
Japan is a land of contrasts. It may have more phone games, but shmups/good platinum games etc. are hardcore AF

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>>149539195

2cat

Polite Reminder that Blind Cave Ogres are friendly and loving

Was poetry and music performing ever implemented in the game? Spoonfeed me please, poetry examples if you got em, too.

I haven't played Dorf Fort in a while.

>>149541807
They have, actually.

>>149534150
Well there's Japanese wiki

>You have been encased in ice

this is by far the most bullshit way to die in adventurer mode, I mean rivers aren't supposed to freeze instantly. At least give me an early warning

>>149543040

No reason I can see to have temperature on in adv mode unless you're using some mods which rely on it for certain interactions.