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F-5 NOW EDITION
Previous Thread:>>149027850
A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/


>/simg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997

>Experimental website
http://nogf.moe/simg/

>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral

>BMS download links
http://pastebin.com/2CDSgvZq

>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in

>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE

>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web

>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg


>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X

>Example of non-welcome games:
Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____
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First for how do I get a cash cuck
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Can we make this the best /simg/ thread yet?

We actually have content to discuss now.
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>>149306135

The F-5 has like three variants of sidewinder available. Planes and mercs when
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Space Flight sim anyone?
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>>149306135
LETS DO IT
>>149306268
I thought it only had 9Ps?
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>finally stuff to discuss
>everyone is too busy playing
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Is there any good Thrustmaster X template config file for DCS ?
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>>149306332
How's Orbiter ? Let's say in comparison to KSP?
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>>149304096
Post ID
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>>149309156
>KSP
not a sim
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>>149309156
It's the sim version of KSP. Like FSX but in space.
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>still have a month to go for this trip
I really hope the F-5 hype and servers aren't dead when I get back.
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>>149312584
I'm sure MiG21 v F5 is gonna stick around
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We get it, you smoke Migs.
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Don't mind me, just smokin some MiGs
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Who typically wins online on MiG-21 vs F--5 servers?
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>>149313649
God's plane
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>>149313649
Well I got 11 kills flying the F-5 and only got killed by MiGs like 3 times
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>>149308873
I can tell you mine if you come to TS
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F-5!
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fukken good module
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>>149317683
I love it
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>>149306860
9Ps, 9P-5s, and AIM-9Bs/GAR-8s
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>>149318732
What is the best?
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>>149318837
The guns.
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>>149318837
P-5s. They're all aspect. 9P is rear aspect only, 9Bs are a joke (they're the same missile you can carry on the sabre)
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>>149319000
trips confirms the truth
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I used to play this very good old(1997) sim called Jane's Combat Simulator: Fighters Anthology. Wonder if there is a way to get it running again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane%27s_Fighters_Anthology

>Fighters Anthology features 142 aircraft, ranging from fighters, bombers, transport, and civilian aircraft and helicopters, 125 of which are player controllable aircraft excluding helicopters, from the years 1956 to the 2010s. The game provides various modes of play which are Single Missions with 124 missions, Quick Mission Creator in which the player adjust parameters, Create Pro Mission, allows for creation of new missions and the editing of missions in the game, Replay Last Mission which is only active after a mission has been played and Campaign.
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>>149319662

Literally the GOAT flight sim.

If I had unlimited funds, I would remake this game with todays techology.

Literally every theater you could think of, every single fucking airplane and helicopter you could think of.

God damn it it was so fucking good.
I would just make like 20 Su-27's vs 20 F-15's and shit.

Gods game.
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literally learning a new module makes me forget the last one I was learning FUCK
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>>149322792
>F-5E
>Anything to learn

It's probably the simplest module
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>>149309482
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Imtali pls gib plen
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>http://steamcommunity.com/id/Imtali
>DCS not on the latest games played
>Not on the /fsg/ group
git out
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>>149326204
>joining a group led by a F U R R Y degenerate
I don't think so Tim.
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>>149326505
Not being able to tell if you're actually part of this community or not is important when handing out free modules.

Considering I can't say if you are or not, I'm holding off since you can just sell the shit afterwards to make a profit and that is your entire purpose here.
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>>149326694
oy vey
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>page 10
but why?
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>>149329016

>new module release
>thread still ded as fuck

merge into /k/ vidya general when
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>>149333843
Just ignore that one whiny autist and bring back /wgg/.
Problem solved.
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>>149306332
Man, I miss Orbiter. Time to reinstall.
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>>149304448
What are the things that pop up when the F-5E's gun is ready?
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>>149333843
>merge into /k/ vidya general when

Even more shitposting turbo autists?
no thanks
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>>149334928
just reinstalled it. doesnt run. maybe is a compatibility error?
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>>149335510

Gas deflectors, keeps the gasses from the gun from being ingested by the engine and causing compressor stalls.
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>>149335510
Shock wave shields otherwise the canopy would crack
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>>149335510
Sun visors, for when the sun's just off your nose and you don't want to hurt your eyes.
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Do you think the F-5E is a good beginner plane or should I be a fc3 babby playing air quake?
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Comfy level preview for upcoming CSAR PvP Operation
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>>149336654
The F-5 is literally the most aesthetic plane in the universe.
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>>149336654
>>149336780

Can we do this big ass op tomorrow? I leave sunday and I don't wanna miss a chance for comfy ops.

start advertising f a m
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>>149336237

Eh, if you're cool with WVR-only and being useless against anything more modern than the MiG-21, go for it. It's a stupidly easy plane to fly and fight in.

If you want to actually be competitive in PVP shit though go for FC3. DCS PVP is boring as fuck though.
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F-4 Phantom II module fucking when
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>>149336780
>THIN is coming back into style

nice
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>>149309482
That was actually me, Jack
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How successful are you guys finding yourself at attacking ground targets in the F-5?

Setting the pipper to 80 depression and diving 20-ish degrees from 5000ft, trying to enter the dive at 350kts is getting me in the ball park of the target, but I've yet to actually hit anything yet. With the rockets, a depression of 14 with the same parameters seems to work pretty well.

BST didn't actually include the proper tables for pipper depression for different attack profiles though, just a few fixed values. Sure is a good thing they delayed the module almost three months to finish the manual :^)
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Should I buy the F-5 even though I'm a complete slavboo?
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>>149336938
Yeah I'm pretty much finished a workable version now so we can play it tomorrow.

In fact:

***OFFICIAL OPS ANNOUNCEMENT***

CSAR PVP OPS JULY 24TH @ 2200 UTC

GATHER ON THE TS AN 30-60 MINUTES BEFORE.
(can be changed if enough people want a different time)

AVAILABLE MODULES:

>BLUEFOR
UH-1H
Mi-8MTV2
Ka-50
SA342M
F-5E-3
A-10C
Combined Arms

>REDFOR
MiG-21Bis
Combined Arms

(Additional modules may be added under special request, ie: not having any of the above modules)

SIMPLE RADIO WILL BE USED. DOWNLOAD IT HERE: https://github.com/ciribob/DCS-SimpleRadioStandalone/releases

Ask someone in the TS if you're not sure how it works before the op starts proper.

Mission Planner will also be used to plan out each teams strategy before the Operation proper: http://jboecker.github.io/dcs-mission-planner/planner_client.html

This mission is fairly simple, but will be an interesting test to see how simg does objective based PVP ops against each other.
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>>149340983
So am I. Still I found it pretty enjoyable.
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>>149341654
FUCK WRONG DATE.

*******JULY 23RD @ 2200 UTC*******
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>>149341654

>Ka-50

I CALL A SLOT NIGGAS
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>>149341761
I got excited then since I can't really do tonight
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>>149341924
same desu

oh well
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>>149341924
>>149341964
We could always run it the 24th as well.

>>149341829
Only 2 Ka-50 slots, so you best be ready to fight over them
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>>149341654
WHO F5RRY HERE?
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Dudes

I'm a long time sim player, spent a fuckon of time over IL-2 which I think nothing has topped since

But I have a MAJOR jet itch to scratch now and the thing is I need a dynamic campaign. I can't play without a dynamic campaign. Barring Falcon 4 and BMS what new things are out there that offer a dynamic campaign?
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>>149342115
Literally just Falcon BMS.

Just play it.

Don't be a baka.
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>>149342115
Armed Assault 3
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JSGME COMPATIBLE MOD THAT MAKES THE F5 THEME THE TOPGUN ANTHEM: https://a.uguu.se/vzLcTfWosQJz_F5-ETopGunMusicTheme.7z

Just need to enable the F5E theme in the menu.
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>>149342716
I am bitter and frustrated so I am going to go shoot down some F-5s
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These F-5 webms are making me diamond. I was going to wait for the F-14 to come out to sit in the RIO for my buddy but jumped into DCS today to start getting a feeling for flying with a stick.

Managed to take off, can't wait to git good enough to get the F-5 module. Just need an A-4k module now


I uninstalled war thunder like 2 months ago and need to fill the flying itch
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>>149338878
>>149325876
I was just joking to see who the poorfags are. You don't want the F-5 at the moment as its broken as shit. It is definitely not worth the 60$ trust me.
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>>149344557

What's broken on it other than the missile FOV and the AA1 gunsight being fucked?
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>>149344637
Check the forums
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Is it bad that I sorta like this?
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>>149344557
t-thanks. hopefully I get a job this week so I can buy it when I'm in the black
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>>149345719

>not having a job

nigga why? do you not like money?
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what do you use for headtracking? is trackir worth investing?
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2 MISSILES
M
I
S
S
I
L
E
S

Also does anyone else feel the plane is a little bit TOO simple?
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>>149347176
>what do you use for headtracking?
DIY
>is trackir worth investing?
no
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>>149347265
but i dont want to have bunch of lightbulbs strapped on my head
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>>149347196
30$ per missile
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>>149347196

It's a fighter that was designed for third world peasants whose only training involved a cardboard box and a box fan. It's as simple as it realistically should be. The 9P-5s are shit, though, spoofed by flares on even sluggishly maneuvering targets, basically all the guy has to do to survive a missile shot is pop a flare or two.

Also, has anyone managed to do a crossbleed start on the right engine? The manual says it's possible, but I haven't been able to do it.
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>>149347340
Reflection bands method then, or go and waste your money.
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>>149347176
I use TIR because it just werks and even though I feel dirty knowing Naturalpoint are scummy as shit, and I supported them, I'm a good goy.
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>>149315626
>not sharing his config file for the greater good
Plain sarcasm or high-level of circlejerking ?
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>F-5E accelerometer redlined at ~8G
>no penalty at all for throwing the thing around and pegging the gauge

also the radar has MiG-21 style ground reflection clutter which is neat
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The MiG 21 radar doesn't seem to be as broken as people are saying. I'be been locking dudes no problem in search and fixed beam
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>>149350358
They fixed it a little last month I think
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>>149350814
I like those clouds
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>>149350703
>>149350814
thats not a fucking f18 retard its a b17
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>>149350962
Are you retarded? Clearly it's an AH-64
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>>149351016
dude youre literally dumb the ah64 is a helicopter
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>>149350703
>>149350814
gaem?
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>>149351172
best one
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>>149347196
Early MiG-21s were also 2 missiles only, and they didn't have 11 seconds of guns to compensate.
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>>149351320
is this BMS?
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does the radar gunsight even work on the F-5?

I lock a target and the pipper just stays frozen in A/A Guns mode.
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>You will never play a DCS Vietnam MMO
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>>149351404
no
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>>149351767
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>>149351767
>ARMA III
Don't ever post that here ever again
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>>149351404
Its fucking ArmA shit
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>>149352262
>shit
Then why does it look better than DCS and BMS combined?
check and mate faggo
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>>149352619

>jaggies
>blue fog
>shit lighting

this is bait but it's very bad bait
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Give me a good reason why I shouldn't click buy on the F-5 right now.
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>>149353828

it's basically guns-only until they patch the missiles to be not shit
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>>149353828
If you play DCS beyond more than just FC3 Airquake then there is no good reason not to.

If out are a 104th muh godsplane shitter then it has only 2 missiles and no IFF and therefore completely irrelevant on 104th style servers in a way that not even the MiG-21 is.
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>>149354381
>Being this buttblasted because someone likes different planes is autistic as fuck.
Enter the slavboo:
>muh godsplane shitter
I don't even fly DCS but the F-15 will forever have a place in my heart for triggering the everloving shit out of you slavfags.
What a perfect salt mining maching that thing is.
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>>149354904
The twist is that I fly the F-15 and Su-27 both on 104th depending on my mood.
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>>149355081
>unironically flying FC3
kill yourself amigo
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>>149355891
famigo*
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>>149355891
>i only fly mature modules for mature simulation players such as myself
I fly FC3, DCS, BMS, and SF2. Why does it have to be just one? Fly and what you want famalam, I'm not going to stop you.
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I hate people who feel the need to wear stuff like this...

We get it, you fly at incredible hihg speed.
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>>149354904
Don't you dare steal my profile pics, you little shit.
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>>149359694
Stig confirmed for mig25 pilot
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>>149359751
???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSGvqjVHik8

Vietnam ops WHEN
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>>149360487
soon tm
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Fucks sake I can't keep bumping this shit all day.
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>Brazilian Olympic Security
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>>149365585
BRAZIL FORTE PORRA
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>>149348969
No I just wanted to talk to you about setting up the throttle so It matches your detent .
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>F5 is a simplistic piece of shit with no depth whatsoever and gets boring after a few days

who would've thought
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>>149367396
NO REFUNDS!
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>>149367396
It's not about the plane

It's about BFM.
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>>149367396
>Getting bored of smoking mig21s and cucking ground units
W H A T
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>>149368973
>WVR
FC3 kids not even once.
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>>149351524
Gotta switch the sight to AA2 mode w/ a radar lock.
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>The new Caucasus Map pictures on the forums

MUH
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>>149369770
Link?
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>>149371903
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=170914
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>>149372168
Cheers lad.

It's looking pretty good.
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>>149372168
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they need to fix these shitty explosions, they ruin bombing completely

they could do something like at 1:30 where its like a quicktime file or some shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tY4udJ5qMo
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>>149351129

>what is a Comanche
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ETS2 anyone?
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1469117835640.webm
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>>149374928
ETS 2 MP is dank as shit
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>F-5 released the one weekend I'm away
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>>149382115
who care...
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>>149343961
Me again


Whats a good module to jump into thats disgustingly fun but with a plane thats complex to start? I know the A-10C is popular but am curious what other modules are good. Would prefer jet instead of helicopter
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>>149382384
mirage
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>>149382384
Ka-50

But since you prefer a jet, try Falcon BMS
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>>149382493
>>149382494
Thanks, I'll check them out. KA-50 is definitely on the list when I jump to helicopters. I've heard the Huey is a pain to fly
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>>149382971
Mirage isn't actually that complex, the startup certainly isn't.

Ka-50 is a good call though.
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>>149382384
The 40's/50's planes have flight models where it feels like you're really moving

BF109:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYkMPar_dw

Also the F-86 and MiG-15 have that feeling
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>>149382971
Not much you can do with the Huey or the Mi-8 as they're mainly transport choppers. Sure the UH-1H can try to be a gunship in a light threat enviroment.

The Ka-50 is to a gunship helicopter what a ground strike fighter is to a CAS aircraft. You shouldn't loiter around or overfly much in it since it's a 1 pilot heli (with 1 pilot situational awareness). But you can fuck shit up with a lot of accuracy and distance between you and them.
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>>149383273
I grabbed IL-2 1946 years ago to play with a buddy but it fell through. Should I jump into IL2 for props or is it generally just better to stick with DCS to keep my stick's profile?
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>>149383637
I wouldn't recommend dcs for props, there's just no content.
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>>149306332
I just came searching for a general like this just to ask how Orbiter holds up. I normally play racing sims (/ovg/), so I wanted a flight sim for a break. Can anyone suggest any essential mods/addons/etc.?
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Alright thanks all. Gotta fuck around in Silent Hunter III while waiting for my new stick to arrive, haha
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>>149384789
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>>149340358
i had pretty good sucsess with 6000ft 79 depr. and 30deg. dive
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>>149384789
Is silent hunter fun?
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>>149340358
You need to check your dive angle as you're about to release

If you have all the other parameters bang on but your dive angle is 30deg instead of 20deg you need to aim a bit short I *think*

I'm able to get rockets bang on every time in the training, same with guns

with bombs its either very close or a hit
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>>149372168

This makes me wet, 2.5 fucking WHEN?!
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>>149386373
2.5 years - Wags
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>>149386373
literally don't see the difference
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>>149382384

Ka-50 is gods heli.

You show up, shoot all your ATGM's, all your rockets, and then fuck everything else up with a gun that you aim with your fucking face.

All this is done by YOU and not some loser gunner while you're cucked into holding a hover, because guess what, the helicopter will hover for you.
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>>149387350
The fact that the gun that moves with your face is ripped off of a fucking BMP makes it that much better.
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>>149387350
>so shit not even Russia wants it and ordered more MI-28
Yeah sure
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>>149387767

>needing more than 30 Ka-50's ever
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So I've recently bought the Mig-21 and HOLY SHIT THIS PIPPER CAN'T HIT SHIT

AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG? AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO JUST LOCK SOMEONE IN THE RADAR AND USE THE PIPER ON GUN MODE TO AIM?
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>>149388227
>Using the rader and piper
I just use the fixed net and do some BF109 guns on the thing
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>>149388227

What he said. Just use the fixed net, the pipper is shit.
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DCS OPS IN ONE HOUR

BEGIN GATHERING ON THE TEAMSPEAK
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>>149388927
unban me
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Ops are in an hour right?
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>>149388227
I use the fixed net for guns and use the gap the red arrow is pointing to for a bullseye
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>>149389043
Yeah, get on TS so we can show you how simple radio standalone works.
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>>149389541

I gotta go get food and start laundry. I'll be on before it starts.

I have it installed already
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How to fly Mig-21?

Is it good idea to fly low until I find some shitter in a F-15, align myself so that I am below him and travelling same direction and then pull up to sneeze missiles up his ass?
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DCS CSAR PVP OPS STARTING NOW

GET IN TS FOR BRIEFING
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>>149387568
Just like the ka52 and mi28 and su25 where its 2 strapped together and the tunguska where its basically the same gun but cartriges are ignited electronically
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>>149393854

PVP OPS.

JOIN NOW NIGGAS
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>>149392913
Two tactics utilized IRL against planes with look down/shoot down radars:

1. You listen to AWACS calls while still on the ground and time your takeoff for when the enemy fighter is <20nm so he has less time to fiddle about with the radar (dont know if you can call AWACS on the ground i just know this tactic from CMANO desu) so you're basically like a SAM

2. You hide in valleys to mask from radars, check for contrails overhead, flip the radar on and off etc
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>>149382493
Awacs usually isnt available in airquake because of f15 babbie butthurt
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>>149393854
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Lads, how did cold war era bombers and attack aircraft actually bomb?

I know that in WW2 they used bombsights and the modern era uses TGPs and stuff

But what would a B-52 in operation linebacker be using, or a THUD or A-7

They didn't just use altitude and speed parameters did they?
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>>149399601
g..greg?
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>>149401336
hello.
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>>149372494
wew they're not fucking around
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Picture of da boyz scrambling to engage enemy samolyot.

5 F-5E-3 destroyed.

No losses.

VVS is the best. )))))))))
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>>149401760
>>149402028
>the whole of Bluefor
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>>149401760
>>149402028
>>149402287

Top tier air superiority fighter confirmed.
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>>149401045
B-52s had radar-directed bombsights

The a-7 and the f-105 would have just been using manual reticle depression and attacking with given parameters.
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>>149401045
Before precision munitions a bomber would do the same as they did in WW2, which was take the best air data possible to compute a release point and then fly to that release point as accurately as possible. RADAR for target acquisition and INS for superior navigation increased accuracy above what a B-17 could expect but the actual techniques were identical.
A fighter would "dive-bomb" by making a steep approach using a set of parameters with known ballistics and release once he met the parameters as closely as possible. Eventually INS could develop an expected trajectory with POI which simplified things a lot because they could just hold the pickle switch and sweep up through the target and it would release when it thought it would hit. Then laser-guidance came out and it all went out the window.
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BODIED
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BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

PVP ops were fun as fuck.

If you get bodied, just fly better next time))))
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Is the F-5 radar bugged or sum shit?

I'm doing the missile training and it doesn't hold a lock at all

In fact I see no use for the locking thing anyway
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>>149404872
learn to uncage the missile you frog nigger
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>>149403901
>furry flight leads us to our doom
>mfw
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>>149405647
I mean radar lock, not AIM-9 tracking
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DCS is pretty sometimes.
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Why does the manual for the F-5E give bombing parameters where you release at 1,500 feet only?

If it was 'nam there's no way you could escape the flak that way right?
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Y'all fuckers know you want some Vietnam People's Air Force captured F-5 in your lives.

Download here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3m841ars8yb7jjg/VPAF+F-5.zip
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>>149419372
I was actually just wondering if there was anyone here who makes liveries - I found some cool fictional MiG-21 ones.
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>>149420093
I am capable of making them and made a few a long time ago, but often it's a lot of work
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>>149420093
Anotha one

>>149420148
Yeah I figured it wouldn't be easy
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>>149420281
Found the sauce - a lot of these are pretty cool imo
http://studiogekko.blogspot.com/p/mig-21-what-if-profiles_05.html?m=1
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>>149336780
>tfw there will never be a single engine, fox-3 capable, vulcan armed, single-piece canopy, stealth version of the F-5
>tfw small fighters are a no-go for 6th gen
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>>149418321

The bombing tables in the manual are pretty shit
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https://youtu.be/tOZ5xstNt0Q
F-5 is sex.
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post your oldest webm from /simg/ ops you've made fags
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>>149424627
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>>149424627
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fuck me, this is comfy

snug as a bug in a rug
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>>149319662
oh shit. i still have the CDs for this somewhere too.
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>>149426620
I sat in the cockpit of one at an air show last year and man, what a pleasant place to be. Everything seems like it was in just the right location and visibility was so good it felt like you were sitting on top of the canopy.
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>>149426450
Ivan must've bled from the fucking heels during that one, jesus fuck...
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>>149427151
Even if a lot of it's really convoluted and unnecessarily complicated in DCS (jettisoning shit mostly), everything look like it's perfectly placed so far as actually flying the damn thing. Even with the stores system like it is in DCS, you could just flip multiple switches at once and do that shit in just a second or two and already have your sidewinders ready in the time it takes to do in DCS.

It's probably the most ergonomic and fuckin simple module at the moment, and I dig it.
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>Gazelels rocket pods got fixed by the patch

t-thanks
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God why are all these F-5 gifs so aesthetic
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>>149429506
Is the gunsight on the F5 just a reflector, or is it meant to have lead-computing and not implemented yet?
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>>149429648
I think it's supposed to have lead computing via radar, but don't quote me on that. If that's the case it's either bugged or not implemented.
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>>149429726
It works. Get a radar lock, and switch sight to AA2, and it works like a charm,
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>>149424627
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>>149365585
>British Olympic Security
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>>149385773
Silent Hunter III is great imho. I've been doing a vanilla campaign but I recall III having some really stellar mods. I havn't kept up enough to know whether IV or V are any good though.


You're going to be going through a lot of downtime while hunting, thats for sure
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>F-5 is released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4wsA--VWEo
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>>149431679
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I am so damn close to forking out for the F-5 despite being in beta state, redpill me.
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>>149438012
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>>149438012
>>149422429
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>6-ship formation of F-5s

FUN
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>>149438012
I'm working on a Vietnam PvP Op.

Do you really need any other reason?
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>>149438631
Found the Aussie
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>>149438694
he actually was an australian, lmao
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>Some rando asks me my opinion on the F-5
>Tell him it's alright but it's not the best fighter ever
>He proceeds to tell me that the F-5 is fucking amazing and can defeat 4+ gen fighters
>He says it does it in red flag all the time and it's a topgun aggressor so it's clearly amazing
>I politely try to tell him why he's wrong and that it has no BVR capabilities which would put it at a severe disadvantage
>Asks him how he thinks a fighter that saw action in Vietnam could compete today
>Tells me BVR is pointless because of ECM
>Tells me WVR fighting is what matters
>Says the F-5E could beat a well trained MiG-29 pilot
>I've dealt with this guy before and can tell you he is completely genuine.

How can someone possibly be this autistic? I literally didn't even shit on the F-5 or even bait him at all, and people say slavaboos are bad...
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>>149439719
They don't fly F-5s as Red Flag aggressors anymore.
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>>149439719
Were you talking to
Sprey
p
r
e
y
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>>149440062
no idk who spray is.
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>>149438631
this was us on the runway

yes, we took this shit off in-formation. 2 groups of 3 with an interval inbetween. No one got lost, which was amazing.

this wasn't on virtual aerobatics, we're all armed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKwrTghrWN8
Some of my best footage from /simg/ OPS.
Come play sometime.
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>>149441605
Damn senpai those were some good ass shots.
>>
What do you think of warthunder sim? Also what do you think of flight gear?
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>>149442230
I'm more accepting of it than probably anybody else here because of its matchmaking and ease of organizing a quick game with my more casual friend. Open Conflict is the closest I can think of to an Enduring Confrontation style map/mode in DCS and that's completely fan made and fan run.

War Thunder as a whole though is hard to compare to something like DCS or treat it like a normal flight sim because its format is so completely different.

In terms of straight up realism I would say at its best it's like IL-2 46, which means it's an adequate survey sim, but hardly a benchmark or remarkable in terms of realis. It's sim enough for me to enjoy myself and for real tactics to apply, and sim enough for him to get a sim-lite experience without having to figure out DCS and go through the hoops it requires to setup and get into games.
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>>149415754
>DCS is the worst "sim" out of everything that is available
>WHO CARES IT IS PRETTY LOL xDD
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>>149443095
Cool thanks. What they really need to do is implement real engine models. Runing at WEP all the time kinda hurts the sum part for me. I always bring my throttle back because of my habit flying bf109s in flightgear
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>>149441605
Genuinely cool. Thank you for using 60fps.

>>149442230
Its okay as far as sims go, but it's free, it has a lot of planes, and it's a good looking game that takes nothing to run smoothly. If you don't mind the long wait times for sim games it's worth giving a try. I feel like War Thunder is better suited to it's RB mode. If only the devs would pull their heads out of their asses and deal with it's core problems, like the shitshow of it's matchmaking system which is really a symptom of trying to make a game that's both historical and balanced via a 1v1 basis. What they should be doing is ditching that retarded table altogether and balance it with the maps & mission objectives (like actually having some) instead of everything being random assortment of planes in a deathmatch.
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>>149443329

what other sim has helicopters with FMs that aren't shit?
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>>149443329
Here's your (You)
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>>149442230
>>149443095
>>149443476
Also stay away from war thunder general, it's a step over from terminal cancer that was arma 3 general.
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>>149443657
greetings from hakurei-chan and the rest of /wtg/
enjoy your slav bias!
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>>149443476
They are trying to fix match making by making jets easyer to get not. That will be a shit storm because lots of them won't know how to use them. If the player base gets better the game gets better.
tl;dr : every wt yt rant ever

>>149443657
I went there asking for advice on what joystick to get once and said I will be using it in Linux too I got one very good reply the rest were
>hurr Linux is not a gayming os durr
Which is funny because neither is windows
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>>149443569
And what can you do with those? Nothing. Because there is no dynamic campaign and there never will be.
DCS is a sandbox for autistic manchildren that has no purpose.
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>>149443354
I dont know when you last played, but WEP has changed so that running your engine hot all the time with WEP will cause damage over time. It can get bad enough that your engine just shits itself without even having to engage WEP at all.

This is all in my experience with the Bf-109 and Fw-190. I couldn't tell you how that applies across other planes though, as War Thunder's biggest sin when it comes to "realism" is the varying degrees of realism between planes.
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>>149444069

t. 4th gen faggot
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>>149444129
I haven't played. For about a week. When did this happen.
Also if I remember correctly 1.1ata is max continuous 1.3 is 30min and 1.4 is 5min in the 109g10 and for most late 109s. Mostly the same for the 190 too
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>>149444069
Why is there no dynamic campaign in dcs?
If a mod can do it so can they. What possible resource consumption could it have that could rival a palne or chopper development?
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>>149445050
Shut up and buy the 2.5 sand!
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>>149444069
okay
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>>149445085
What
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>MUH DYNAMIC CAMPAIGN
ED should rather implement something useful, like a 4th gen fighter.

Only complete milsperg autists care about a dynamic campaign.
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>>149444129
If you turn on MEC you can fully open the radiator which lets you run permaWEP (or something near) on many aircraft.
t. wt pro
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>>149446236
sasuga gaijin
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>>149445050
Maybe they know that if they made a dynamic campaign it would expose how bad the AI and all the supporting stuff is. Right now that's all shit that needs to be tightly scripted in DCS whereas in BMS AI just talks to each other and gets shit done.
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>>149446508
Why is BMS so much better even though it is like 20 years old?
DCS can't hold a candle to BMS.
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>>149446627
20 years of development?

BMS started on a finished game and polished the turd until it became shiny.
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>>149447084
>Falcon was a turd
Oh you despicable little slavaboo
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>>149447185
Was and still is, kys.
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How is the F-5 as a ground-pounder? Any good?
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>>149448054

s'alright. Requires a lot more attention to detail and the ability to fly a a specific flight profile consistently, though, and you'll have to memorize (or write down) some tables.
>>
Had pretty good accuracy with Mk82s in the F-5 so far with my kinda steep dive attack profile.

Set manual sight to 30 mil, do a 50-60 degree dive at 450-500 KIAS onto the target, release about when you start getting worried you won't be able to pull up in time without over-G'ing.

Bomb profile the tutorial teaches is slow and way too vulnerable to ground fire.
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>>149449842

Managed to make the snakeyes work? I can't find a good pipper setting for them.
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Is it just the P5 that's broken or is the AIM-9P fucked too?
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>>149313823
The MiG? Really?

I would have thought the F-5 would take it.
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>>149453081
Both are fucking dog shit famigo
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjUb2q6X96o

why are FSX videos just some gay music videos with incredibly gay music instead of showcasing the gameplay and features
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>>149451918
30 mil depression. 500-550 KIAS, treetop altitude, level flight. Drop on the pipper. .06 ripple setting helps make it a bit more consistent.

Feels a bit harder to get it right than the usual mk82s but its doable.
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>>149457234
Seems like it's like every other bomb with a retarded system on it - perfect line up but the bomb goes full...retard once released.
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>>149457624
Pretty useful for not bombing yourself at low alt though. And they look cool as shit.
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>>149457826
Yeah they're pretty useful for low level strikes. Just wish they worked a little better.

I'm using the FAB 100s on the L-39 at the moment and very rarely manage to get a hit close enough to destroy anything against a road convoy
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>>149454995

The F-5 is at a disadvantage at the moment because
>retardedly-narrow missile seeker FOV
>radar is buggier than shit
>radar gunsight doesn't actually work

That being said the F-5's weak engines really hamper it. You bleed speed fast in a turning engagement and it takes a while to wind that speed back up.
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>>149458075

>F-5 not so fast anymore after bullied by MiG.
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Can we trust in Belsimtek to fix these fucking missiles.
Look at this shit, http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2852173&postcount=22
What were they thinking?
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>>149457826
Realized I fucked up the webm quality. Have another.
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>>149459542

>the AIM-9P5 is basically just the GAR-8 with a model swap and limited front aspect capability

sure is a good thing they delayed the module for two months to put on the finishing touches
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>>149460058
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149443476

>Example of non-welcome games:
Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____
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>>149459542
>>149460058
>>149460257

Wasn't IASGATG or however the fuck you spell his fucking name the guy who did the missile-unfuck mod a while back that made missiles perform reasonably well?

Anyway in that thread he says that those values aren't actually used by DCS, but the performance of the F-5's missiles are just outright flawed anyway. Maybe BST forgot to override those values or something.
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how do I take better screenshots than just slightly zoomed in F11 cam screens? I post most of the stuff I take here, I'm sure it looks samey as fuck to you guys.
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>>149459659
Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvyBrX1eK4I
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>>149461214
change the weather and time for atmosphere? pause and get a good angle in free look iunno
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>>149461214
Stop posting
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>>149461331

The freelook thing I already do, I'm mainly just asking about composition and stuff. I'd do more action shots, but DCS's ground textures look awful even with a gorillion mods so it kind of ruins the shot IMO, and I'm trash at air-to-air so I can't ever really get into situations where I can do cool air-to-air screens.
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>>149426450
>if you try something like this today you'll just get wingsnap
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which helo is best helo
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>>149464339
Mi-8

>Who needs an airstrike when you can fly nap of the earth and drop in a spetsnaz company to storm the enemy airbase
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>>149465086

Mi-24

>we cut it and now its bleeding Spetsnaz.
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>>149464339
Which size is the right size?
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>>149465086
>>149465803
That's a nice helo you've got there. It'd be a shame if something were to...happen to it.
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>>149460058
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>>149467013
>the man with no legs
>Wags?
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How does an F-5 compare to a Skyhawk in bombing capability?
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>>149468297
The same it compares to anything else:
Poorly
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>>149401336
I don't look like a loser.
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ay guys look what I found, should I buy it?
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>>149468297
A-4 would have better selection of A-G weapons and generally has a larger payload capacity. Though the pylon layout means they'll generally carry a comparable amount of bombs.

For aiming in the F-5 you have an adjustable sight. Though that's all you have, you don't get much/any help.
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>>149469953
>For aiming in the F-5 you have an adjustable sight. Though that's all you have, you don't get much/any help.
Isn't that all the A-4 had? In the 70s/80s versions anyway.
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Is there any way to change the dispersion of cluster bombs in the F-5?

I want them to disperse like pic related, not over a square inch of ground
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>>149470036
Think so, I don't know much about the A-4, so just telling you how the F-5 is and you can do the comparison yourself xD
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>>149469908
As the resident rumble pack user in this thread, I say.

YES
E
S

But get a throttle quadrant aswell, they sell those cheap on ebay.
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>>149470147
That's how clusters work in DCS in general.
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>>149470147
you forget that cluster bombs in DCS do fuck-all
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>>149470217
In the A-10C you can set the bursting height and spin and shit, you can dresden a whole city with one pass
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>>149323623
Isn't default SU-25T simplest module? Difficult to fly but only few buttons
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>>149470171
You know what this is? It was inside the box, but it doesn't seem to go to anything. Too bad the throttle is loose as fuck but it's 5 dollars soo...
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>>149470704
The SU-25A in flaming cliffs is simpler, SU-25T is pretty hefty because it has SEAD and long range glide bombs and shit
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Top kek
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>>149461214
Watch your replays are use slow motion to slow down time so you get to important action moments in replay that you want to take screenshots of, Presss left alt Z to slow time and left shift z to resume.
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>>149413989
Captain pronin?
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>>149417902
>That zoom in and zoom out smoothness
epic
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bms ops anyone?
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>>149473515
I'm down but also away until Monday...
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>Aerial warfare since all-aspect
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>>149473515
I'm up for it. We'll have to use BMShost's TS though since I'm banned. I managed to fix BMS and have my headtracking installed again.
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http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1946809/

For people asking about bombing tables for the F-5, there's about a million here starting on page 337
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About all this head tracking shit all I need is a webcam?
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>>149470772
that looks like something for headphones (??) judging by the plug.

That didn't come with my stick, prolly just something someone forgot when selling it to the store where you got it from.

Also 5 dollars for a stick is very good.
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>>149475242
Read the pastebin

http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
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For those of you who don't have head tracking, how do you deal? Do you use your mouse or keybinds to look around or do you just look forward all the time.
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>>149475402
K
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>>149475474
I use the hat on my stick. Its p good but it is hard heavy heavy maneuvering
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>>149427971
Imagine playing DCS in VR
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Who /assettocorsa/ here?

Haven't played in a while and damn a lot of fun mods are out now and custom tracks.
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>Leatherneck updated their cover photo to a flightline of Viggens
>30 mins later they delete the pic and replace it with the F-14 MP test pic

FUCKING SOON AAAAAAAAAAA
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>>149476929
like ingame viggens?
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>>149477685
No, it was just a picture of IRL Viggs
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>>149441605
Laiked and sabscruibed <33333
If with retard mode off, this is goddamn nice video
Pretty nice shots, 60 fps, and high bitrate, and music fits if you ask me
10/10
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>>149478783
what.....
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>>149478783
> retard mode
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>>149478783

What did he mean by this
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>>149478783
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>>149479630
w-woah, what powerful jutsu!
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>>149478783
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>>149478783
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>>149478783
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someone fly with me already ;_;
https://steamcommunity.com/id/top-riz
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> Wags: Most air-to-surface missiles are being updated for improved fidelity flight dynamics and guidance. After that is complete, our engineer will do the same for the air-to-air systems.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2853073

About fucking time.
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>>149478903
>>149479130
>>149479287
>>149479630
>>149479871
>>149480173
>>149480349
I just said that video is great, and for some reason you just started throwing these dumb memes
Question is: Why?
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>he isn't on the way to aviation mecca RIGHT NOW

wow dude do you even aviation?
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>>149481319
>Question is: Why?
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WHEN?
WHEEEEEN?
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>>149480969

Thank you God.
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>>149481826
I'm not anime fan, and only anime I've ever seen is DBZ like 8 or 9 years ago on tv
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>>149480969
thedrive com/the-war-zone/4014/how-a-small-town-girl-ended-up-in-the-cockpit-of-an-a-10-warthog
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>>149303805

Hey /simg/, /k/ommando here. Realistically what is the best entry level combo for getting into a flight sim as far as game + flight-stick goes? Is there a consensus on this?
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>>149483346
Probably the new Thrustmaster T16000m + Throttle they recently released
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>>149483346
FC3 for DCS
Hotas X thrusmaster 50$
or
Logitech 3d pro 25$
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>tfw you will never work in the 309th AMARG

Just kill me now lads

Also do any of you in this thread work in the aviation field here? Thinking of going to Embry-Riddle one day to do something involving fixing planes. Hopefully not commercial airlines but I doubt I have much of a choice outside of joining the USAF.
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>>149483482
>>149483558

Thanks fellahs.

What about for WWI and WWII?
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>>149483597

I think Embry-Riddle is great if you want to be an engineer but if you want to work on planes as a mechanic and such wouldn't an aviation trade school be a better bet?
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>>149483663
Rise of flight is free WW1 flight sim. You can DL on steam or the standalone game off their website.
IL2 series is good. Can anyone shed some more light on the good ones though I've never played them.
here is a webm from rise of flight
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>>149483930

>Rise of flight

Freaking awesome, perfect for me right now, thank you.


Since you guys seem to know your stuff, for a Silent Hunter/Naval-stuff-in-general fan is there anything that is on the sim-level of realism for modern surface-naval-warfare?

Also, non-modern, is Naval Action considered a good sim? It looks great and I will be playing anyways, just wondering what sim-fans think of it as far as realism goes.
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>>149483346
>:^)
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>>149484178

Thanks! I figured there might be something along the lines of this chart.
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>>149484318
Theres also this chart and a part of the this http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in another good list of items and hotas to buy
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>>149483928
Yeah probably, I don't know much just that I want to fix planes. People say I'm good at math and stuff but I honestly hate doing it, I think engineering has a lot of math stuff so I want to avoid it.
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>>149484172
For a strategy game CMANO is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLc-iSbiV5g

Don't think there is any DCS-type modern naval combat sims
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>>149484172
>dangerous waters = super well done submarine/anti-submarie sim (Get the RA expansion, mod check the pastebin in the OP)
>fleet command = Same as Dangerous waters only its ship vs ship warfare.
>CMANO = Autism level sim that's fucking expensive.
All of these games have a high learning curve so be warned.
also have another Rise of flight webm
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>>149484929
>>149485013
>Don't think there is any DCS-type modern naval combat sims
Dangerous waters and Fleet command.
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>>149485135
Does dangerous waters have multiplayer?
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/k/ommando here again, thanks for the help /sing/. Maybe you guys would like my watch?
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>>149485338
Yes, we've done dangeorus water ops in the past.
Check the pastebin http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE and you'll find a how to on how to set it up. You can do matchmaking with randoms on tunngle and we did private ops with evolve.
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>>149485013

Thanks, I will definitely be playing dangerous waters/fleet command at some point soon. Looks like Rise of Flight is the next immediate game to play though.
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>>149485515
it's alright, I prefer luxury watches desu. People don't tell time with watches anymore so I see them more as fashion pieces now.
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https://youtu.be/NnwqJmOL6I8
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>>149486039
hearty kek/10

based Sam Hyde
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>>149459542
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>>149484178
Don't ommit the version number you dicklicker
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>>149486803
cephi sucks dicks
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>>149485935

Bell & Ross doesn't count as a 'luxury watch' to you? Not hating but why is that?
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>>149487193

Oh and I shared it because the BR01 is based on aviation instrument panels.
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Should I buy dangerous waters or complete naval combat pack on steam?
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>>149487460
I would buy the complete pack desu.
The old DW games sub command and 688I hunter killer both have missions which can be played in DW. If you are low on cash though just stick with DW it has plenty of content. Also the old games aren't half bad.
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>>149486803
X-55 should be replaced with X-56.
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>dangerous waters CTDs after starting every tiem
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>>149488621
No it shouldn't, it's actually inferior, considering you lose a button on the stick and gain a meaningless analog hat that has no business being there.

The other features are identical
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>>149489720
nvm found a fix
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>>149459542
>>149460058
Seems like something that's a simple fix, may take a week or two depending on when DCS actually updates.
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could anyone share a good gamepad config layout
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So are there any infantry games that are on the 'sim game' list at this point yet?
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>>149492076
Welcome to /a3g/ friendo
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2853073&postcount=2

I don't want to get my hopes up but...
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>>149490437
id have r stick for pitch and roll, l-stick for view, triggers for yaw and the dpad for pitch and roll trim, r1 and l1 for yaw trim. Y throttle up A throttle down and x/b for weapons.
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>>149424627
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>>149496073
>no radar alt on HUD
Luckly the 14 will fix this
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>>149492076
>vehicle simulation games
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>>149387767
wrong, they switch to Ka 52
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my first time doing rockets
I hit the fire button way too early.
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How deeply simulated is dangerous waters? How does it compare to CMANO? Is the thermal layer simulated?
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>>149498571
>Is the thermal layer simulated?
Yes.
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>>149498721
wait so diving breaks your sub? wtf i have shit to learn
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>>149498972
Yes. I'm flying F-5 now. If you want to learn more about DW swing by the TS Tyrannik and I are here and we are the resident DW fags.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPIDMOhrpcI

This week couldn't get any better
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>>149500459
>mfw TU-22M and inevitable B-52 module gets released and I can do mad scientist stuff in the back while the plebs deal with the flying
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>>149497717
Remember to set the fixed manual sight to 10-15 mil for rocket shit if you can. Helps get the pipper aprox where they'll hit.
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If any sub lads are still here: When do you actually use active/HF sonar? as far as i could tell from CMANO it was made redundant by the passive sonar
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>>149502753
Never. It gives you away.
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>>149502753
Short answer: don't use active unless you absolutely have to. You can use it to get a guaranteed snap shot torpedo off, but everyone else will vector straight to your asshole.
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>>149502834
the FPSschazly vid im watching says its for mines and ice fields or somethin
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Hello lads, somewhat lurker here, I'm curious - Novalogic games allowed here? Have been a sucker for them for many years now. I know they're not the greatest when it comes realism, but they're still good imo.
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>>149347176
Not 100% needed but when you have it you will never go back.
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ded as my soul
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>>149507847
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>>149508135
soon
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is the mig28 module any good?

also, is a logitech 3d pro or a sidewinder better than my shit tier x52 non pro?

literally the most pathetic build quality i've ever seen in a decently priced product.
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>>149510924
1. yes but the missiles are absolute dogpupu

2. no idea but if you're shopping for a budget stick get the T16000M
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>>149511192
Looks like a step up from the sidewinder or 3D for sure.

I've got the Warthog module, 1946, CLoD, and a trackir but I never bothered to commit to a solid concrete setup for optimal access and frequent use, so it became a pain in the ass every time I wanted to drag out my setup only to be ravaged in an unholy way by the appalling build quality of my X52. It's literally unplayable even after fucking with the curves and eventually magnet placement.

My flight sim equipment needs to be dusted, and I feel bad that it's been neglected so long.
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no but who's dick to I have to suck for the f-5
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>>149511519
If the sticks broken then it's broken, but I would consider both those a step down in terms of functionality because you're losing hats. For modern sims, the more hats the better.
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>>149514126
I'm a total beginner still so I feel like an accurate stick would be helpful in getting the basics down as far as maintaining optimal control over my planes.
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I am seriously considering whoring myself out for money to buy the F-5
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>>149514293

Yes and no. As long as it isn't spiking around, liberal usage of curves and deadzones can make any stick good. I learned to fly helos on a Saitek AV8R.

Also I just bought a CVC helmet. Who /tanksim/ up in this bitch?
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>>149515169
who the fuck are you?
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>>149515169
do some erp for the furry
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2853123#post2853123

Leatherneck Update
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>>149516303

Its literally nothing.

Leatherneck is dead to me.
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>>149516303
do you know what happens when you spray salt on a frog
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>>>>>>>>>>>>10
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At the fly in theater at Oshkosh right now and they about to show a jew war movie called "above and beyond."

Craig where you at.
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>>149521457
give an oy vey for me senpai
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>>149521457
If you don't yell oy vey we are all gonna be disappoint in you
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>>149495431
I cant config it. Apparently the game only aknowledges the analog sticks and not the buttons
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http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2853073

OH SHIT

MAYBE MISSILES WILL BE LESS SHIT SOON
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>>149526613
>Soon
2.5 years lets go
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>watch some whore th*nder ground forces video
>instantly want to reinstall for tanks

why does the tanksim genre have to be so fucking dead. I just want to drive a Panzer III and fuck up Monty's britshits.
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>>149524325
pls respond
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>>149532572
did you yell oy vey?
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>>149527891
Panzer Elite is the Falcon 4.0 of tanks
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>>149537720
is it really a simulator?
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>>149532707


All aviation fans should watch "16 Right"

RIP in peace Meigs field :(
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>>149537720
>3rd person
>shit physics
>shit grafix

are you perhaps mistaken
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>>149510924
No they arent no hats
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>>149503368
If it isnt in the unwelcome list its welcome
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>>149503368
Total Air War btfos Novalogic's F-22 Lightning series.

Although F-22 Lightning II had rad music and was one of my first flight """sims""" as a kiddo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4UBi6UyKqU
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>>149527891
>>149537720
>>149539625
>>149541486

The _original_ Panzer Elite is basically the best WW2 sim out there. There's a helluva lot of mods out there, linked video (+channel) related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw3KAyJ5vkg

Also, Steel Fury with mods looks okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJKy9nCnShU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLu7wGVhLb4


Tiger vs T-34 is russian shovelware trash and it's only contribution to the simming genre was that it provided art-work to be ripped of and put into better engines/games (see above).

If post-war stuff doesn't bother you there's Steel Armor which is good.

And of course there's Steel Beasts, which _IS_ the BMS of Tank Sims. But you have to cough up big sums of cash to have it indefinetly or you have to "rent" it for a more reasonable sounding amount of money. But in return you have clickable cockpits and a huge amount of playable vehicles (lot of slavaboo stuff coming up in impending update).
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>>149544204
>impending update

If next spring is impending, yeah
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THICK
H
I
C
K
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>>149544204

Still, Panzer Elite has shit physics and seems to be mostly based around playing in third person. Haven't played Steel Fury, but Graviteam also made Steel Armor which is alright but limited by its setting (Iran-Iraq War).

Steel Beasts I'll probably bite and buy a few months of rental time once 4.0 hits (if it hits this year, that is), but the physics insofar as the tank's interaction with differing terrain always bothered me in that (I believe they're adding animated suspension in 4.0, though, which should assuage that).
It just depresses me that WTGF is the only decent tank game that doesn't have a high barrier of entry and has believable physics. If Gaijin spun off GF into a separate game without third person (not necessarily fully modeled interiors, just do what they do now with the commander view in sim battles and add a buttoned up periscope view), I'd probably spend loads of shekels on it.

Fuck, I'm going to have to reinstall again aren't I
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>>149342716
Could you repost this? I was away and didn't get a chance to grab it before the link expired.
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Made some more gook skins for the F-5, bare metal this time. Will upload tomorrow.

I'm the first one who's made skins (at least for public download anyway). Feels good.

Gook-21 and Gook-5 bodying F-4 ops WHEN
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>>149547231

desert camo f-5 skin when
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>>149547304
There's literally already one.

It's called the aggressor 'snake' scheme.

If there's a want for it I could take the stars off so it's just a regular usaf skin.
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>>149547304
Also aggressor 'desert' scheme

and aggressor VFC-13 '11'

They are all in there already lel
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>>149547479
>>149547563

oh

rip me i'm a piss baby
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>>149547624
They are all aggressors though, so they have the red stars on them. It would be easy af to remove the aggressor markings to make them just usaf skins. Might do it I could see the want for that.
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Is there a way to bind controls on the F-5 so the middle positions of the flap switch, speed break switch, etc on the Warthog work?
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>>149547968
Why do you need the middle position of the speed break? Just bind up and down. For the flaps I just have down to automatic and up as up because the automatic flaps work pretty well.
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>>149547968
I think the speed brake works the same way as the F-86F's in that it's a 3 position switch and the middle position is hold.
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>>149548261
>>149548362
Speed break was a bad example, more functional ones would be the flap lever and flap thumb switch
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>>149545797
>Panzer Elite has shit physics
Fuck, the game is from fucking 1999.

>based around playing in third person
Actually, it's more like based on playing from unbuttoned commanders perspective + gunner. + looking at the map. like all ""realistic""" tank sims There are autism options restricting you to first person, but the linked PE video in >>149544204 shows a player who prefers 3rd person view. Probably to masturbate to the tank models while playing. He also uses infinite ammo too. But you can crank up the realism options restricting gamey elements.
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>>149549752
Tbh something like that should not be called a sim imo
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Anyone use 3d pro and play BoS? Having trouble setting up good input settings
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>>149527891

Don't waste your time. The matchmaking system is shit, Germans are often screwed. And the biggest thing, gayjin uses their own arbitrary stats instead of historical data which makes it anything but simulator.
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>>149527891
>>149551970
The stats are real the matchmaking is shite. Once you get to the German heavys you are killing shit left and right as long as you use them for their intended roles and use them correctly
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>>149552210

The stats are not all real. For example, they gimp certain crew historical reload times in favor of their "balance" which they've proved they have none. Sloped armor was last time I played way better than it should be as well.
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>>149552487
Regarding that yeah but armor values and pen values are mostly accurate to my knowledge
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>>149551970

2l8

I ran about ten matches, mostly low-tier Russian and British ones

I had a bit of fun, had a really good match in my Sherman where I got to flank the fuck out of some krauts, but for the most part the long match queue times and how difficult it is to get enough spawn points to bring another tank out put me back off of it. I mean, I wasn't doing fantastically, but I had more than one match where I got an assist, or critically damaged a tank before dying, and didn't have enough points to bring out another tank.
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>>149553051
Doesn't really matter if armour values are real when the game doesn't model proper ballistics and overmatch
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>>149483597
You're not going to get the type of real world training you need going to Embry-Riddle. I'm currently going to Embry-Riddle and working on my bachelors, but only so I can go back into the military as an officer. I did six years in the Marine Corps and I got a ridiculous amount of experience working on F-18's. More experience than I would have ever gotten going to school.
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>>149554420
If you input the correct mass and muzzle velocity the ballistics should be correct
The engine just take care of all the calculations
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I really like the look of the F5 but it's £48 with currency fees. I've got the Mig-21, which now it's got something to go up against which isn't vastly more modern, might be worth investing the time to learn properly.

Should I just wait, learn the Mig, and buy the F5 at a discount or bite the bullet and buy now?
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>>149556180

Wait, the F-5 is still unfinished.
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>>149556193
That's about all the justification I need. Back to the 21 and the Huey it is then.

Cheers bud
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Anyone tried a set of these? Seem to be built to a price point but so are the Saiteks and these are half the price
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Played in my first BoS multiplayer match as 109. I need to learn target idenfication in this. Been so long since I played a ww2 sim. I snuck up right on an La-5's tail but I didn't shoot because I wasn't sure. Went next to him and above to check but he noticed me the second time and dived. I managed to hit/leak something in his right wing diving at 700+kmh but I lost him after that. I managed to land successfully at base at least. Compared to warthunder sim the landings/takeoffs are A LOT bouncier.
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WHAT IN THE FUCK IS THIS

GET RID OF THE TS CIRCLEJERK BEFORE IT KILLS THIS GENERAL
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>>149558772
Easiest way to spot the Russians is the red star on the wings and that most of their liveries have a distinctive light blue underside.
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>>149558880

Yeah, when I went next to him the red star popped out right away. Couldn't see anything when I was coming up behind though so I need to re-learn plane silhouettes
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>>149559119
I think the trick is to learn 1-2 salient details about each aircraft to help you quickly identify them. Really drill them into your noodle so you associate each aircraft with a particular thing. The IL-2 with it's distinctly shaped gear nacelles, for example and then you haven't got a boatload of info to remember.

or just fly jets and IFF all the things (Not in BoS obviously)
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Okay, finally got some grounding for my PC and cleaned everything up. That seems to have fixed the problem with some inputs not registering in BMS and DCS. Had to leave yesterday because i was having issues with DCS because of it.
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>>149559528
pro tip nigger

it's not your grounding

There's a conflict between Ts3 and some joystick drivers

set your TS3 shortcut menu to use keyboard only, instead of keyboard + gamepads
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>>149559808
No, it's something else, my pov up stops working, and when that happens when i press one button sometimes it press another one. And pov up goes pov up right. Started happening this week. I'm worried because it might be the stick itself
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>>149560309
Also this usually happened in BMS, not DCS, and it's been happening for a while now. I'll probably get a powered HUB and see if it fixes it.
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Yo listen up here's a story
About a little guy that lives in a blue world
And all day and all night and everything he sees Is just blue
Like him inside and outside
Blue his house with a blue little window
And a blue Corvette
And everything is blue for him
And himself and everybody around
'Cause he ain't got nobody to listen

I'm Blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
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I'm Blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa

I have a blue house with a blue window
Blue is the color of all that I wear
Blue are the streets and all the trees are too
I have a girlfriend and she is so blue
Blue are the people here that walk around
Blue like my Corvette, it's in and outside
Blue are the words I say and what I think
Blue are the feelings that live inside me

I'm Blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa

I'm Blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa

Inside and outside
Blue his house with a blue little window
And a blue Corvette
And everything is blue for him and himself
And everybody around
'Cause he ain't got nobody to listen

I'm Blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa

I'm Blue da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
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Anybody wanna go fly when I get in later?
Preferably F-5 but I'll fly anything desu
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Look how happy this little bastard is
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i haven't showered in 4 days
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>>149558868
This
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>>149560863
Fuck bitches, invade Poland
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Ded
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Been watching some videos on the Mig21. The in-game tutorials are absolute trash so glad people have taken time to explain things.

Interceptor ops when?
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Seems like the mistral missile is being added to the SA342 when the multi crew is added next patch
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>>149569006
Bit shit that they didn't have multi-crew from the get go.

Was there any particular reason behind not having it straight away?
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>>149569202
i think mosty because they wanted to get out the heli to get some feedback and build on that
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>>149568826
PVP Ops?
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real talk, can I get a baby's guide to the F-5 radar? I can't get a decent lock unless I'm right up a mig's ass

pic related, it's cephei's favorite plane
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>>149569357
Must be nice to be able to ops this early in the morning on a work day.
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Guys IL-2 is getting DX11 support soon and it doesn't suck anymore. Also currently has hands down the best damage model/visual damage model around
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>>149303805

Oh man, Top Gun... OP is not a faggoth.
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>>149327208

This is why they keep wearing hoods? They want to be astronauts?
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>>149571530
>that plane
My dick
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bump
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>>149577374
>dirty tanned af soviet vdv with a dusty af svd and an expression that he clearly gives no shits

damn son this is soviet Afghanistan af.
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>>149558868
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>>149571530
I find it really hard to lock up targets in MSL mode, locking up in DM or DG is easy though.
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>>149580140
I legit haven't got a fucking clue about how to use the F-5 radar but I still love it
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>>149581363
I feel ya senpai, I just learned how to turn it on, I mean it's only really for target acquisition anyway.
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>>149574478
>>149580140
>>149581363
>>149582454
So you guys are just getting close up before even attempting to fire? I think I've been going for shots too far away then. Is there a YouTube video or something explaining the F5 radar?
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>>149585058
Pretty much, WW2 style
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>>149585682
What's the proper tactic if you find yourself head to head with an enemy? Try to get an aim9 off or maneuver to get on their tail?
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these aim9p5s cant hit shit if not under 3km but i hear they are just a rebranded gar8
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>>149586134
Try to get on his tail currently. Head on runs too much of a risk of a collision, and he can just as easily blast you. and the missiles are dogshit
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>>149586872
Cool, thanks famalam. I'm having very enjoyable mig 21 vs f5 dogfighting experiences currently.
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>>149587204
good to hear, remember you bleed energy like nobody's business so fight smart m8
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the only thing i dont like about the f-5 is that fucking buzz in the cockpit that you cant silence
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>>149587379
turn off A2A arm while you're not using them
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>>149587379
>>149587541
You can also turn down the MSL volume knob
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>>149587705
Yeah you can but you cant turn off the growl with it
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wow, force feedback joysticks are fuckin awesome
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UH OH
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>>149589613

WE MIGS NOW
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>>149589613
BACK TO 3RD GEN AGAIN
OH NO
BACK TO 3RD GEN AGAIN
F-4 MESSED UP
BACK TO 3RD GEN AGAIN
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>>149590020
Will the F4 ever come to DCS?
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TELL ME ABOUT WAGS.

WHY DOES HE USE THE WHEELCHAIR?!?!
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>>149587330
It makes it fun. Also the possibility of accidentally flaming out an engine keeps me on edge.
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>blueflag
>see f15
>get into a good position
>he notices me
>FIRE r27t
>he deploys 2 flares
>DEFEATED
>FIRE 2 R27R
>DEFEATED NOT EVEN PULLING HARD TURNS
>FIRE ANOTHRE R27T
>2 flares
>DEFEATED
>FIRE the r73s
>pop 1 or 2 flares
>DEFEATED
I
FUCKING
QUIT
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>>149591303

At least the F-15 has to do stuff to defeat missiles. The 27R with chaff you can't see.

The Mirage literally deflects missiles with an invisable shield.
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>>149591303
>Head to head with an f15

Ishygddt
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>>149592050
Not head to head, i was in pursuit.
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>>149591819
I had an F-15 defeat about 4 27Rs by doing nothing but fly away from me
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>>149591248
I wonder if wags is short for 'without any legs'
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>>149591819
Maybe you should try to shoot at a plane and not an optical illusion
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>>149592234
Were you chasing him at high speed?
Good luck making any missle hit while chasing someone unless your under 3 miles. AiM-7 is one of the few exceptions but even then the range only increases by aboout 2 miles.
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>>149592167
How far behind him were you and how fast were you going?
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>>149596707
Dude from that massive rant here
I was flying at fucking 1100km/h
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Two questions:
1. Is SimplePlanes welcome here at all? It's not exactly a sim, but it's quite novel.
2. Is there any similar games or software that let you design your own aircraft? I know X-Plane has a plane maker, but that seems a little too complicated. I'd quite like something that lets you set custom engine parameters, etc, to estimate performance (or let you fly it, but I'm primarily concerned with design.) instead of making you use a limited selection of pre-made parts.
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>>149596926
No. Fuck off.
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>>149596847
1100km/h
Less than 3 km away.
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>>149596856
>>149597015
Chasing people down at high speed rear aspect will almost always result in you missiles being trashed. The 120 suffers from this quite badly. Your opponent and you are going so fast that your missile can't chase him down even if he's close. AiM-7 is the one exception to that but it has a crazy burn time so if will chase you ass down.
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>>149597525
Yeah but i could see them going for the 1 or 2 flares he popped
and as often off the rail.
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>>149596926
KSP with Ferram Aerospace Research and Procedural parts/wings mods installed is fairly good for making realistic aircraft.
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>>149596992
>>149515350
>>149461417
whoever is making these snarky posts to new people: stop being a prissy teenage faggot
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vietnam ground pound ops when

napalm when
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Am I correct in saying the F-5's gun cam isn't implemented yet? I have it set to Only for Tracks and nothing comes up when I watch them.
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>>149598660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXbGh8HVvU0

>mfw ive been waiting 3 years for a vietnam map to be announced

I think even ED devs are anti-ground attack shitters, they won't even make splosions pretty
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>>149599226
>Flagship module is the most iconic ground attack platform
>explosions are ass
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>Mig-21 manual
>Gives a caveat that they dont morally approve a nuclear weapons
>In a fucking game

sweden, I...
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Who on final here?
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>>149602038
I gotchu senpai
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>>149602038
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>>149558868
I dont get it.
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>>149602038
OOPS wrong one
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What is the point in circling an airfield when landing? Whats the point in landing legs etc

Why can't you just descend straight onto the runway without that shit
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>>149603438
BECAUSE THERE'S MORE PLANES IN THE SKY THAN JUST YOU
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>>149603438
Slowing down and reducing energy gained from altitude&speed
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>>149603438
Idiot
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>>149603616
fuck you cunt
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>>149603721
Edgy idot
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>>149603956
dont sign your posts haha
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>>149604065
Now you are just being retarded
>>
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Yo fags I know you want sum dat Vietnam People's Airforce Captured F-5 skins.
Here's the link just updated it:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2020956/
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>10
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>>149612254
>info bar still on
>head tracking disable bar at the top
this is why furrys shouldn't be in charge of taking screenshots
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>>149585058

Why? Most of the modern fights in jets there have been have been miles away
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Seriously, when are we getting a F-4 in DCS?
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>>149614869
Never
I don't know why every single dev cannot comment on the F4, like it's super secret or something. They always dodge questions or say something like "We can't talk about it right now"
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>>149614994
I honestly don't get it, is there some licensing issue? Are they working on it? Does the F-4 have some secret radar that we can't know about?
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>>149615189
That's the thing, I don't fucking know.
Aren't there F4's still in active service?

Sorry for dissapointing the migs on the fight we just had with f5's. My SA is shit and i couldn't find anyone.
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>>149614994
My guess is that someone who owns the licensing said no when they heard it was a Russian company.
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>MiG-21 is better than the F-5
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>>149615621
>Aren't there F4's still in active service?
Not that I know of, maybe in some shit tier countries

>>149615865
That's what I wanna find out famalam

>>149615834
Maybe, but they got licensing for the A10 and other American jets
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>tfw no airfield aa
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>>149616053

apparently Germany only just recently retired their Phantoms in 2013, so who knows how many are left in service
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I think Turkey still has the Phantom in service
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>Imagine you're in a war and then you get sucked off while you're fighting
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>>149618069
Japan, Turkey, South Korea are the meaningful nations left with F-4s.
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If anyone wants the full transcript of my greentext story the other day, here you go. I literally can not understand how someone can be this autistic.

If anyone wants to dunk on this nigger lmk in TS and I can set something up, he is so easily triggered

http://pastebin.com/D7vMX6hW
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>>149618593
he is correct
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>>149617820
>>149618069

I just want it more then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40pyeErO-7I
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>>149618593
>Thinking Top Gun makes any fighter a good fight
>:^)
anon time to talk to some new people senpai
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>>149615865
>>149616067

>migs lost PvP ops while I'm gone.

Not even mad.

My dick is just diamond at the fact that we finally have full fidelity, balanced PvP ops.
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>>149618593
That guy is right though.....
Are you dumb?
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Q: When you're about to launch a missile while tracking a turning target, is it better to fire while pulling g and tracking the target - or to pull lead, unload g and fire when they cross the seeker?
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>>149623071
If you're talking about the F-5, get tone then HOLD DOWN the missile uncage button. This will allow the seeker to track the target and you may pull Gs ahead of the target, unload, then fire. The AIM-9Ps really hate high G loads.
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Hi, are men who like to cuckold themselves allowed to post here?
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>>149627565
No
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>>149627750
Then why are there so many DCS players?
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>>149627750

I don't understand why you're post a political leader who has a large supporting base that are actually into or participate in cuckolding
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DEAD
E
A
D
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>>149630340

Nothing like an incompetent army using down-armored tanks
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>>149603208
would have put a burst of cannon fire over his canopy desu
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>>149631035
>over
>not into
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>>149630340
delete this
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>>149628424
>being a furry
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>>149628327
>>149628424
>>
>>149635054

He probably does have a lot of furry supporters. Uneducated cuckfest are his main base
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>there are people who want to be a hermaphrodite deer lurking this thread RIGHT NOW
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>>149635626
Trump is going to president. All the polls put him ahead and Nate Silver, his pollster nemesis, puts him at a landslide. You better delete these posts because Trump doesn't forget.
>>
>>149635875

Are you talking about Erdogan? This guy actually wants a nationalistic religious based government. El oh el
>>
What if we did a little in house /simg/ top ace 2v2 champ competition? We have people pick teams and we do 2v2. We keep track of the scores and whoever has the most at the end is the winner?
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>>149636632
I want Tony or harmless as my wingman
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>>149636632
there is absolutely no way this can go wrong
>>
>>149636632
Just remember bois, THERE ARE NO POINTS FOR SECOND BEST
>>
DYNAMIC TASKING TEST: 'NAM EDITION OPS HAPPENING NOW

GET IN TS
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loadsa bmp
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>>149636789

You can be my wingman anytime.
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>>149640874
Bullshit.

You can be mine.
>>
>>149641141
>>149640874
Incoming shit storm take cover
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>>149641141

*music plays*
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>>149641141

nah actually you can be mine
>>
>>149641624
no no, you can be mine
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>F-5 vs MiG-21 ops
>Wags confirms AA missile fix in the works
>user made dynamic campaign generator announced today with demonstration

Am I dreaming? Could DCS be taking its first steps towards being non shit?
>>
What's the use of the A/A1 guns mode in the F-5? From what I can tell in the manual all it gives is ranging information, which isn't overly helpful in a dogfight.

A/A2 gives lead with the pipper but you have to manually lock the target which is a pain while maneuvering.
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>>149642802
I'm guessing AA2 is for targets maneuvering below 4g or something

Whereas if you have to do kentucky windage snapshots you use the AA1
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>>149642957
Yeah it seems like that's all there is to it
A/A2 is for "unaccelerated moving targets"
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>>149642802

AA1 is broken atm, it's supposed to give you lead information from what I understand.
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>>149643491
That's what I'd thought but from the manual all diagrams using A/A1 show Kentucky windage, and there's no mention of the pipper indicating lead, whereas for A/A2 they show and specifically mention lead. It seems to me it's working as intended, although it's counterintuitive to me as well.
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>>149643664
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>>149643664

I mean, the changelog for the update that introduced the F-5 specifically states that AA1 doesn't work

and that diagram is kind of vague. It looks a lot like that's just demonstrating the need to actually track the target for a second or two before firing.
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>>149643664
>counterintuitive

I know that for the radar gyro sight on the F-86 to hit bang on the pipper, you need to actually match the targets G for 1-2 seconds and drag the pipper to smoothly match the movement of the target before firing
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>>149644019
So how does this work?
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>>149644019
Corresponding AA2 page

>>149644165
I'd forgotten to check the known issues - however, checking the real life manual it says A/A1 provides a "nontracking solution to attack a maneuvering target" whereas A/A2 "is limited for a tracking solution applicable against unaccelerated constant rate maneuvering target". It later mentions "lead computation" for both though, so honestly I'm not sure anymore.

>>149644334
I meant more that I would have assumed A/A1 provides a moving lead calculated pipper like A/A2 or the F-15C, given that it's intended for use in dogfights, but it doesn't appear to.

>>149644513
There's a lengthy description of how the "nontracking solution" works from the real life manual that diagram is replicated from that I'll post in a follow-up.
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>>149645326
Are you sure it's not that the radar gives the range which only effects elevation of the pipper but the lead is affected by your own plane's G? not an expert so I dunno
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>see a server called =RvE= ops
>kill urself my man
>start guessing passwords like mad
>on my second guess i get it right
>it's 123
>ayyyy
>join with the help of an Ex /дa бoйз/ associate from the old days
>start gunning the A-10s and get into a dogfight with an F-5
>blowing =RvE= A-10 plebs out like mad in muh F-5
>my comrade sends him this over A-10 datalink
>they had to have read this because you getting a warning when you receive a message.
My sides hurt.
stay tuned for my webm. of =RvE= Moltar getting blown out
>>
>>149644165
>>149644513
>>149645326
> Image limit reached
Fug
When the next thread is created I have a screenshot of the real life manual page and my interpretation typed out
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>>149646150
just start a new thread desu senpai this general is only sustained by webms
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>>149646193
>tons of discussion
okay sure nice bait though
>>
>>149646150
>>149646193
NEW BREAD
NEW BREAD
BEW NREAD
>>149646719
>>149646719
>>149646719
>>149646719
>>149646719
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>>149615621
>>149615189
>>149617820
>F-4s still in service

Turkey (MFD'd - AUP)
Greek (MFD'd - E-2020 Terminator)
Japan (MFD-'d - EJ Kai)
Iran (Legacy "E")
South Korea (Legacy "E")
Supposedly Egypt too (Legacy "E")

So quite a few relevant countries still has the Phantom. It's like the M60 of airplanes. Note that the different upgraded variants differ and I don't know which block number the legacy operators have.
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