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HOW HORRIFYING EDITION

>/fog/ Mod Archive
http://fogmods.weebly.com

>CK
http://www.creationkit.com/fallout4/index.php?title=Main_Page

>Fallout 4 General Information (Read Before Asking Questions)
http://pastebin.com/UkxVHYQB (embed)

>Vault Dweller's Survival Guide Links
http://pastebin.com/x1yeAmcP (embed)

>The Art of Fallout 4
https://mega.nz/#!vQkWVLpD!nBOiJBqgYriOJNkjU8OqxSFOfpKJHYWT6wZunopd6Fg

>Fallout 4 Item IDs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9quAMtGK70aptz0t5teqWHGZJ9T9uvJmzNEBJEB36Q/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

>Fallout 4 Legendary Effects & IDs Guide
http://pastebin.com/qg0KhsCA (embed)

>Fallout 4 Settlement Mods & Information
http://pastebin.com/QJquVveh (embed)

>HOW TO CONVERT SKYRIM / OBLIVION / NV / FO3 ETC MODELS TO FO4 + Bodyslide Guide
http://pastebin.com/MWEPKj5m (embed)

>Fallout 3/NV
http://pastebin.com/wVAqLvCD (embed)

>Archive
http://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/fog/

>/aco/ Thread
>>>/aco/fallout (nsfw)

>/y/ Thread
>>>/y/fallout (nsfw)

Pre-War Thread:>>148961170
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FO4 PA on NV when?
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i posted this in the last thread to no avail so ill try again
i need some help/advice i wanted to play New Vegas again with hitmans 1st person animation overhaul however ive run into a problem with pump shotguns
my front hand seems to be cliping into the sun (see Pic)
ive uninstalled the mod and reinstalled it to no avail
this is what it should look like so i know its a problem on my end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-CrOUb9Oxw
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>>149016412
Literally this.

Who are the current modders in /fog/?

>Trainman
>Bufftitts
>Kosm
>That faggot who made his own PA from SM shit
>That faggot who was doing battfield(?) shit
>That faggot who was doing EVA and synth shit
>_____
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>got the wounded dog as a companion
;_; its so perfect
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>>149032589
does replacing music count as a mod?
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>>149032639

I never thought about him wearing clothes.

I wish you could send him to Sanctuary and give him his own dog house. Without mods I mean.
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post screenshots of whatever
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>>149032589
Does changing equipment stats for an RP run count as modding? Because I did that once.
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>>149032694
Yeah I had to use a mod, couldn't find her anywhere. RefID on the fallout wiki was wrong.
I wish Dogmeat was introduced like this, feels a lot less forced than 'happening' to run into him right outside of Sanctuary
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>>149032589
Does making shitty scripted convenience things count as modding?
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>>149032740
>Red Tourette has a pair of nasty, crusty grannie lips
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>>149032827
>yea, i'm trying to avoid that.

Then re-weight it I guess. Or deflate the body.

Load the Cbbe body as reference and select all parts of the outfit and click "Copy bone weights", then save and / or export the nif
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>>149032934
GROSS!
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>>149032589
Izzy
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>>149033129
Izzy is dead, long live Izzy. Take your meds.
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>>149033129
>>149033216
Izzy is already mentioned here >>149032589
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>>149032589

Hanabi / Halofarm said he'd mod the game if more people here bothered to learn how. Pretty sure he said something like he didn't want to become a request whore.

There's another modder, whose name won't be mentioned, that said he knows how to port guns, but he said he isn't posting here since he knows he'd get swarmed with thousands of requests.
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fuck you Alice McLafferty. blowin up caravans and shit
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>>149033290
Who is he?
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where are these fucking support pieces? can I even build them?
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What settlement should I make my command center for leading the gunners into glory? I've never really liked building at the castle.
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>>149033290
Halofarm is a washed up, pathetic, mentally ill potato nigger. Good riddance.
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>>149033290
>Hanabi / Halofarm said he'd mod the game if more people here bothered to learn how. Pretty sure he said something like he didn't want to become a request whore.
Who?

>There's another modder, whose name won't be mentioned, that said he knows how to port guns, but he said he isn't posting here since he knows he'd get swarmed with thousands of requests.
Who? Isn't it easy to port guns?
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http://phys.org/news/2016-07-robot-sea-slug-d-body.html

SYNTHS SOON FELLOW SCIENTIST.
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>>149033409
anyone?
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>>149033427
the dlc vault
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>>149033552
>Doesn't know Halofarm

/v/ please leave
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>>149033394
>tfw no Gun Runner missions
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>>149034007
I guess I'll start farming supplies then.
a leak is out right?
What shit should I stockpile?
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>>149034125
just the basics.
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>>149034007

>tfw outstitute
>tfw exclave
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>>149034047
Who is he?
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>>149034238
Alright, thanks
I still have hope that we'll eventually be able to join up with the gunners like the minutemen in a future DLC
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>>149034064
should I have not killed her yet? that was the last thing I did so I can easily load another save
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Never Ever
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>>149034418
Well you'll fuck up the ending for Cass and lock yourself out of one of the two resolutions to her companion quest with Alice dead.

>>149034372
>in a future DLC
This will _not_ happen - Nuka World is the last DLC, full stop.
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>>149034372
There is no more DLC. Christ, get over it.
>>149034629
You, too.
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>>149034047
>pretending that Halofarm matters
>Horde of shitty waifus
>circlejerking faggot
>whiny bitch boi
>unironically likes/watches anime
>begs like a bitch for people to pay for his site because his chicken tendies weekly allowance doesn't cover it

and this shit lmao
>http://halofarm.deviantart.com/
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>>149034629
>LL already has working animations
>"never ever"
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>>149034717
I see no proof of that so
Never Ever!
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>>149034703
>http://halofarm.deviantart.com/
>This is just Vaan with the FFXII logo (which you can't see very well) I just felt like I needed a Vaan stamp, because most people don't like him, but I do.

Seems more autistic than Buff.
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>>149034790
>I see no proof of that
Well maybe if you would open your fucking eyes and go follow the link from a couple of threads ago, instead of expecting everything spoonfed to you, then you would in fact see it. You only don't as an excuse to keep shitposting and spamming.
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>>149034915
I'm actually a little annoyed. When his deviantart was posted on /tesg/ a year ago? (or more) he still had a picture of himself in his gallery. He looked like a little bitch.
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>>149034790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIot2AngKbA

Stop being a fuccboi
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>>149035037
He's the only one who knows how to do this and doesn't tell how.
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>>149035174
http://www.loverslab.com/topic/61259-sextec-sexlab-sexout-etc-container-thread/
www.loverslab.com/topic/55609-hkxpackhkxanim-animations-in-fo4/

Use bugmenot for the sign in and password, cocknose.
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>>149035037
wow that's lewd
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>>149035278
>A: Not possible to answer directly. For sure we need a fully working FO4SE, a fully working CK, and the ability for Animators to create new Animations (that is not an easy task now)
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>>149035037
Oh wow he made someone dance
That ain't no pump action shotgun mate
NEVER EVER!!!
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>>149035174
That isn't actually true. There is a thread on LL that goes over how to use the animation tools to do animations.
Sure you need to know how to animate, but needing serious experience for that is only an advantage inasmuch as having a CS background would be useful for scripting, or a graphic design background for modelling - you can get by from scratch well enough. Granted it would take some time to not be shit, but that's the case with all modding.
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>>149035037
>>149035174

>Jap knows the secrets to adding animations to fallout 4
>Instead of cornering the gun mods he makes faggy anime dance videos

all is lost
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>>149035387
Then what's the point of shitposting along with wanting to fuck the literal hulk?
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>>149035387
Can we just start reporting this as spam now?
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>>149035448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W2nsAGUS3M
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WELP

Physics working on all the bangs! That was a lot easier than I thought!

I also decided to test some on Nora. She needed some love, too!
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>>149033409
ANYONE?
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>>149035465
Fallout 4 will never and I mean NEVER! have a pump action shotgun
It will Never happen Ever
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Can FO4 be saved bros?
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Nevermind, god bless the internet.
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>>149035562
That kind of just looks like a helmet using the existing Assaultron Helmet animation from DLCRobot.
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>>149035609
obviously not you fucking autist
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>>149035640
I've seen worse, such as Buff.
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>>149035568
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>>149035623
Who would want one?
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>>149035623

>yfw there's a pump in Nooky Whirl
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>>149035736
Buffscale posted a picture of himself? no way
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>>149035790
Unlikely
>>149035780
Well I guess if yous a bitch you wouldn't
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>>149035623
http://www.loverslab.com/topic/64567-fallout-4-animation-modding-for-modders-and-animators/?p=1616247

https://www.youtube.com/embed/mNdUzW_QEhE

https://youtu.be/A3a5A01rNuQ
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>>149032589
>there are people ok with ghoul fetish.


digusting desu
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>>149035793
He posted it on Steam.
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>>149035947
Oh Wow I'm SOOO impressed
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>>149035640
>trainwiz still remains the best looking
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>>149035773
>>149035568
Nice job!
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>>149036062
Based Train.
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>>149036000
bro, post that shit.
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>>149036021
I don't really care about pump action shotguns but this proves it's entirely possible to import custom animations.
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>>149036221
Until I see actual gun Animations it ain't happening
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>>149035568
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>>149036162
The best part is that when I reverse searched it, I found he posted it on a furry forum.
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>>149036162

I never posted my pic on Steam so its probably just gonna be some random guy he googled.

I've only posted my pic on the internet like...maybe once. Over a decade ago.
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>>149036335
Fuck off if you're going to be a lazy cunt.
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>>149035623
>>149035387
>>149034790
You know what I'd rather have?

Power armor designed to dual-wield heavy weapons with maybe a shoulder mounted missile launcher or fat man for shits and giggles.
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>>149036349
>>149036356
The damage control begins.
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>>149035790
>>149035623
here's a question, if we got pump-shottys, what mods do you think should be available?

my votes would be:
>Receivers (Birdshot, 12-gauge, 8-gauge, Slug)*
>Magazine tube size (comes in four to ten rounds, naturally this visible extends the tube)
>Sights (the usual selection)
>Stocks (short, full, marksman, recoil compensating)
>Barrels (short, long, and ported each with cylinder choke, improved choke, modified choke, and full choke)
>Muzzle (Bayonet, Choke extension)
>Finish (Purely cosmetic but lets you choose between wood and silver, wood and blade, black (polymer) and silver, All Black

*Yes, I know that's not how shotguns work but they aren't giving us ammo types.
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>>149036349

But that's not even me. I also don't go to furry forums.

My face will forever be a mystery to 4chan.
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>>149036431
You know what I want? Actual power armor appropriate weaponry.
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>>149036349
oh shit hahahaha

>>149036439
that's what I thought too
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>>149036485
Prove it then. I believe him over you.
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>>149036445
>Finish (Purely cosmetic but lets you choose between wood and silver, wood and blade, black (polymer) and silver, All Black
I'm not really crazy about this mod option, myself. Nothing from the base game has it available, so it just feels really jarring and out of place when I see it on a modded weapon, kind of like having the equipment slot available for crafting armor.
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>>149036395
Why would I try modding it when the developers them selves didn't give a shit about it
There is however a game that did have competent devs!
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>>149036553
Actually, baseball bats have it. And to be honest I'm kind of annoyed more don't.

There's no stastical difference I saw between wood and aluminum bats.
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>>149036563
yeah but the terrain is all flat and boring
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Do you live in texas?
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>>149036445
>what mods do you think should be available?
None because it Never going to happen Ever
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>>149036635
there is a different between metal and wood bats in game

also the M14 mod has different material options
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>>149036349
He looks like a psycho.
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>>149036527

I would never upload my picture anywhere, except 1 forum maybe 12-13 years ago, and my image share account died so its probably lost forever. But whatever. If you wanna think thats me, whatever.

Only time I ever took a pic of something in my house was when I was showing people in the /tesg/ chat my dog.
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>>149036563
>Why would I try modding it
Because it isn't there?

Are you ill?
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I never want to know what an artist looks like.

It makes its art more enjoyable that way.

Artists should also not have any gender or genitals either.

Just.

An artist.
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>>149036563
>Why would I try
Because you want it? Either you're posting this much because it's a request, in which you should do make it happen yourself, or you're just doing it to flood the board, in which case you should read the rules on spam.
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>>149036846
I believe you Buff, it's okay.
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>>149036563
You mean the game that had its lead designer finish it up as a mod?
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Anyone else really creeped out right now?
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>>149036885
>>149036942
Regardless I'm still right and there will never be one
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>>149036349
I always knew buff would dress like an autist
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>>149037006

/tesg/ chat asked for pics of our pets. That dog was always growling or making weird noises so people always complained about it, lol. He was cranky when I took that pic because I woke him up.

I was "gifted" this dog, she's pretty quiet. Also whats creepy about owning a pet, dawg.
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>>149036563
So you were trying to 'le eplic trel' somebody in to attempting it with this entry level reverse psychology

I'm deleting my weapons tests and going back to anime dances, you fucking nerd.
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>>149037046
But there already are custom animations in 4? Even if it's just one or two people right now it's still happening.

>Never ever

I hope you play on a console, so that when someone does take a swing at weapon anims, I can smile and remember your posts
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>>149037123
Didn't they make fun of you in voice chat when you left?
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>>149037123
>posting on a furry forum
>posting furry porn
>first dog looks emotionally broken
He's saying you fucked your dog(s) you dense retard
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>>149037186
>I'm deleting my weapons tests and going back to anime dances, you fucking nerd.

Me too.
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>>149037186
Your still proving my point
>>149037195
I play on PC and i don't even own fallout 4
I I never intended to I would play that piece of shit if you paid me
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>>149037230
Yes.
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>>149037186
>>149037262
Doubt either of you have jack shit, but if you do then good riddance. We really don't need any more modder drama from a bunch of self-entitled elitist pricks. Go fuck off with DDP to some dark hole and stay gone.
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>>149037354
*And I never intend to I wouldn't play that piece of shit game if you paid me*
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Does New Vegas have fast travel shit? How heavy is it on blandless walking from marker to marker?
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>>149037123
So you were fucking your dog while in voip conversations? What the fuck?
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>>149037240

lol

But in all seriousness if someone actually managed to find a pic of me and post it, I'd own up to it. Its better to tell the truth than to lie. I don't even know where that pic came from, reverse image searching it didn't seem to bring up any results, so its probably a pic of some guy's friend or something that they just took.

Here's a pic I took 10 years ago (po lil Tuffy had to be put to sleep) and it has a nice pic of my leg in it. Maybe you'll find the rest of me if you reverse search it!
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>>149037468

new vegas is pure bland
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>>149037369
>We really don't need any more modder drama

This fucking shit >>149036021 is what causes drama.

This >>149036221 is where most people are right now anyway.

>>149037369
(You) are the instigator here anon, get out.
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>>149036846
>>149037123
>>149037509
>all of these dogs look emotionally damaged
>Buffscale is a confirmed furfag who talks like a creep

Youfucking piece of shit
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>>149037545
well shit. I just dont have the patience for 10 minute long walks where nothing happens in a game that is 90% fetchshit.
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>>149037509
>But in all seriousness if someone actually managed to find a pic of me and post it, I'd own up to it. Its better to tell the truth than to lie.
Literally no one believes this. Not even you.
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>>149037614

I think you're just seeing what you wanna see
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>>149037509
>Tuffscale
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>>149037509
>has a nice pic of my leg in it.
Nice toe nails you fucking psycho.
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>>149037698
>>Tuffscale

Each woman took turns having their way with tuffscale, getting blood all over themselves in the process, the last one came up to him and she saw that he had lost too much blood in the sex orgy that had gone on using him as the source of lube. She was angry that she could not have her turn, and that there was no lube to rape the other skanks of fort buffscale. She took out her staff and drove it into tuffscale's stomach, puncturing it and allowing various fluids to flow out into the floor. The shit he had been forced fed in his slumber began to get all over the place, exciting the other women, and igniting a sex frenzy that would be immortalized in song many ages later. Buffscale walked into his home and he recognized the stench of funk, shit, and shota blood almost immediately. "Oh hell no!" He shouted to himself, already thinking up ways to punish his disobedient hoes. As Buffscale climb the stares of fort buffscale he pulled out his gat and got ready to start blasting at the first hoe he saw. He opened the door and the scene before him caused him to gag. Blood. entrails and scat were everywhere, he blasted the altmer bitch in her ass, making the rest of the hoes jump in surprise. "What did I fuckin tell ya'll dirty-ass hoes, thanks to you he's got aids!" He said gesturing with his gun to the pile in the corner that contained the most flesh. "We're sorry daddy", said the skanks in unison as Buffscale started to repair tuffscale's body. Buffscale blew them all away with his gat as he started to laugh like a madman, only stopping to rape a detached orc girl's head before drinking some skooma and continuing his assault. When all of them had fallen and his gun was empty, Buffscale finished repairing tuffscale and he left to find replacement hoes for his pimping business. Tuffscale's head remained in tact, so he became an alcoholic to cope with the memory of what he had seen that day, and he was never able to play with a train set ever again.
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>>149037354
>>149037431
>shitposting about a game you've never played in it's own general

Remember to report him.
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>>149037606
You overreacting to some anon spamming is the problem. Anons will alway shitpost, but throwing a tantrum is
>the instigator here anon, get out.
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>>149037862
>tfw exercised my god given american right to bear arms and shot an AR for the first time this past weekend.
Feels fucking good man.
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>>149037884
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>>149037917
Something something "it's a bazooka! What a terrible thing!"
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>no MxR mod reviews
>watch VatiWah instead
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>>149037862
It doesn't change the fact that I'm right and I always will be
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>>149037884
Fuck off.
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>>149037509
hey buffscale did you read this?

>>149037858
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>>149037858
>"What did I fuckin tell ya'll dirty-ass hoes, thanks to you he's got aids!"

Goddamn, when I first read this shit on /tesg/ I was in hysterics
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>>149037917
Hope it was an AR-10 at least

AR-15 is weak as piss
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>>149037978
So?
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>>149038056
Everyone knows you wrote it.
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>>149037958
honestly man, after having shot an AR and reading that article, I am convinced he was lying the entire time. Next to no recoil, had proper ear protection, and because the actual projectile is smaller than a 9mm, the holes in our target were laughably small.

>>149038078
We were shooting .223 sorry son.
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>>149038154
So I'm right and thats just the way things are
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>>149038228
So?
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>tfw serb
>literally #1 in guns per population in europe
>guns are heavily restricted by law and the statistic is counting in the illegal shit
>tfw serbian elite counter-terrorist unit literally storms a house if they can find a Serb AK with couple of mags, shit like that makes headlines
>meanwhile said serb AKs can be lawfully bought in America for like 500$ and shot to your hearts content

I mean I don't really need a gun, super low crime rate, I rarely lock the damn door at night, but it's silly when you think about it.
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>>149038250
Don't you get it you gerbil i cant be wrong!
I'm incapable of be incorrect!!
IM. ALWAYS. RIGHT.
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>>149038302
Ok, so?
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>>149038159

I didn't write that one

I thought it was funny as hell so I wrote a similar story, though

Anyhoo, I need to get back to work on these hairs
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>>149037658
Sorry to distract you from apparent beastiality fanfic about your adorable dogs, buuut...

Do you happen to have anything cheaty that I can copy weights from when doing stuff like backpacks/general wack mesh shapes?

I'm lazy and weighting in OS is time-consuming and I hate doing it.
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>>149038273
>AK 500$
The only aks people can legally own here in the us are semi autos
And the really old full auto ones that are like 100 grand a pop
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>>149038351
Ohh I see what your doing
But guess what it won't work on me!!!
Haha that's right I win you fucking antler!
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>>149038372
racemod where
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>>149038372

Just use the Cbbe body
Maybe move it inside the body a smidge before copying weights, copy them, then move it back.

Its usually pretty generous with the weighting except for Deathclaws, if a mesh is even off by 0.2 inches it will get fucked.
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>>149038518
Ok.
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>>149038614
Exactly fuck you I Win!!!
IM ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!
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>>149038685
That's fine.
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>>149038352

looks just like my japanese animes
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>>149038568
I threw it together overnight you don't want it, wait for race mods to be a real thing.

>>149038575
Most of the things I'm having trouble with are foreign objects that I'm attaching to outfits like robot armour and the like. The upper cage sections of the heavy raider armour are a notable fuck around.

I'll try that, though, thankyou Buff.
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>>149039049
Oh but I do want it Anon
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I freed Lorenzo Cabbage.

Will this bring more lore to the Fallout setting and Universe?
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>>149039196

>lorzeno cabbage
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>>149039049
>Most of the things I'm having trouble with are foreign objects that I'm attaching to outfits like robot armour

You're going to want to export those as Obj from Nifskope. If they're already weight painted and you try putting it on an outfit, it could cause CTDs when you try to equip it.
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Does Nuclear Physicist in any way affect the amount of time it takes to drain a full core when using a Gatling Laser?
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>>149039324
There's a wiki for a god damn reason.
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>>149039324
yes. although it still shows 500 shots, you'll have a partial charge fusion core left over.
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>>149039264
>Amy's anything
Absolutely disgusting
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>>149038710
Of course it's fine because I always win
I win I'm an the master of everything
The world is my oyster and you are all clams!
I can do anything I can claim the tallest mountain I can sail the 7 seas!
I can go to law school and get a degree in advanced physics and no one can stop me Ha!!!
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>>149038575
you shitting up /fog/ too?
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>>149039519
Ok.
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>>149036431
Power armor capable of dual wielding heavy weapons?

EDF! EDF! EDF!

someone figure out a way to rip the model and get it to me and I'll look into making power armor out of it
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>>149039592

I'm making mods for /fog/. Have been for a while.

If you don't like it, be mature about it and filter me, please.
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>>149039668
Whoops, forgot my image.

EDF! EDF! EDF!
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>>149039694
Blow your brains out.
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>>149039101
I can try and polish it up but I gave up on it already. There's a resource on LL for the pieces.
>http://www.loverslab.com/topic/63232-deathclaw-for-cbbe-body-modders-resource/

>>149039280
Yeah I figured that part out pretty fast. So there's no cheaty way? Just moving things inside the body for weighting? I can't test right now but I feel that it might not work for some reason.
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>>149039864
>assblasted
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>>149039694
Why did Nora have to die? She was too hot to die.
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>>149040146
>not playing as Nora
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>>149032589
How did someone make that pose in your pic? HOW DID SOMEONE MAKE A CUSTOM POSE?
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>>149040159
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Since Glowing Ones in FO4 can "Resurrect/Raise" feral ghouls back Arch-Vile style, I wonder if its possible to make some kind of grenade or a weapon that does the same thing that can be used as a way to ambush raiders or some shit?
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>>149040231
You mean after raiders have been attacked by ghouls or an institute grenades with ghouls instead of synths?
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>>149039901

Cheaty like what? Auto paint is already kinda cheaty as far as painting goes.

For weight painting you basically have to look over the mesh and paint it where you think it needs paint. Its kinda a dreary task I know. It also can take a lot of trial and error.

Also a tip for metal: Don't lightly paint metal. You want it to be orange / red on the weight paints. Or it will bend when you move a lot. I thought about making a tutorial vid for weight painting, not sure when I'll get around to it. But each weight paint is unique. Some may require more or less attention than others. Only cheaty way I know is for hats, shrink inside the head and copy, then make it big again. But that won't necessarily work well for a body armor.

>>149040146

Honestly, I think they just did it for forced drama. Your dad in FO3 didn't really HAVE to die either. But I guess Kellogg doing it just because he's a dick is a valid reason anyway. But his justifications for it were pretty lame.

"No one should know the pain of having their kid taken away, so I'm gonna make you watch your wife get murdered AND your kid taken away!"
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>sniper with 50. cal ammo does less damage than my regular rifles

Explain this
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>>149040341
Kill ghouls

Lure raiders

Raise ghouls

Ghouls distract raiders

Fatman
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>>149040536
>Only cheaty way I know is for hats, shrink inside the head and copy, then make it big again.
Is exactly what I meant by cheaty. Though you have kind of answered my question with:
>You want it to be orange / red on the weight paints.
So ta.

I'll have to look into weighting a bit more, as usual I picked this up a few days ago and haven't really tried. Would love a tute. though, if you get the time some day.
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Well fuck.

3ds seems to get really fucky with physics enabled meshes. This may push back the date some more. I tried exporting it but the mesh looked like that when exported. Fuck!

Its always something with this goddamn hair mod. Its always something. Hopefully I can figure out what it is that's doing this.
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>>149040536
Kellog was a retard. It's like they wrote him for one storyline but ended up using him for another. Makes me think in the early drafts your wife didn't actually die but was taken with your son to the institute.
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>>149041069
Remove phsics, import, export, add physics?
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>>149041069
What's your next project?

Don't dare fucking say EVA suits.
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>>149041396

If only it were that simple.

Opening the hair in OS to give it physics = Bad vertex normals
Opening the hair in 3ds to fix the bad vertex normals = Shitty buggy hair mesh apparently

If I fix the vertex normals and put it back in OS, the bad vertex normals return, therefore, the glitch returns
Holy FUCK

I might have to send Vioxis another PM or two on LL, but I'm trying everything I can now to see if I can fix this.
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>>149041559
>mentioning that shit again
Can you just fucking stop? Triggering portscale and the whole general isn't worth it.
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>>149041559

I dunno, definitely not porting any hairs again after this though.
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>>149041594
Hey buffo, unrelated question, but you ever make models from scratch? Or do you only do conversions?
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So, hold on.

As anon on the previous thread said, deathclaws were the product of pre-war genetic engineering. They were probably a little different from what the Master or the Enclave made them into in the end, but they existed.

Does this mean they were air-dropped over China? Is Yurop now run by chameleons?
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What the fuck happened in this thread?
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>>149042083
Dunno, but my waifu sure is a real looker!
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>>149042029

Only conversions.

>>149041396
>>149041069

I think I found the problem now. I changed finger bones to cloth bones to get physics to work. Works fine in-game, but 3ds doesn't understand the bone positioning, still thinks the position is on the fingers. This will be a little tedious but I'll have to reposition each bone in 3ds so it will export correctly. Oh well!

Lesson learned.
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>>149042083
this is what happens when you make portscale a thread celebrity, him doing mod requests bred a horrid mindset of "why do something if someone else will anyway", and loads of /diy/ crusade cucks get heated up over it. both sides are cancer really
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>>149042057
Some mutants were pre war

Yao Guai and Mag Wai are Chinese words for monster. Mutant bears were around pre-war and named by Communist POW's.

Deathclaws were produced to replace soldiers on the battlefield. They could theoretically be anywhere that this research was conducted, or tested.

Giant Molerats were engineered versions of normal molerats, designed to breed quickly and destroy crops. Not sure if they were a Chinese bio-weapon or an American one that escaped.
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>>149042174
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>>149042626
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>>149042601
Which kinda leads to the next question, doesn't it.
Given the secret shit going on all over it's entirely possible that a breeding population of self-aware animals exists somewhere in the world and may have faced greater success than the new inhabitants of Vault 13..
Which in turn means they'd most likely be giving the Enclave some serious shit after they'd drop Curling-13 if either side thought about expanding.
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>>149042159
How hard is it to 'chop up' models into pieces? Do you have any experience with say, converting a full body outfit into separate armor pieces and accessories?
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>>149042712
Most vertebrate animals already have some degree of self awareness.

If you mean intelligent critters with a complex society, like humans, they would have to have been isolated in order to remain unknown in the Fallout universe, so far.

Already know about human mutants (dwarves, trogs, ghouls, supermutants, etc). Know about Wannamingo and Intelligent Deathclaws.

Going off current Fallout story conventions you're more likely to see another Human mutant variant, or another FEV boosted critter, than you are to see a society of talking chipmunks or other degenerate, furry trash.

I suppose you could easily inject a new critter or something into an uninhabitable environment though, such as swarms of intelligent piranha-squid that use advanced hunting tactics.
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>>149042726

You need Blender experience

One of my tutorials kinda covers this with the cat head, Blender can be a little hard to understand at first though, you'll have to use it a few times before you get the hang of it.

But once you learn it, it becomes really easy.
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>>149035448
>japs caring about anything except waifus
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>>149043170
ok thanks. I can kind use the CK competently, but I have no experience with models.

I figure it would be easier to learn by modifying existing stuff first, before trying my hand at creating something new.
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http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14326/?

>craftable urinals
>still no pissing mod
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>spend an hour ripping the CK apart trying to figure out what makes intercom scenes work
>turns out it's one option I completely overlooked

Well that was dumb. Have a screenshot.
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>>149043929
What is the one option?
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>>149043635
One assumes that you'd need animations for such a mod.

At least there's already a needs system for it to integrate with.

Also human toilets is the bleh tier of piss fetishes.
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>>149043929
>Burly Brawl.jpg
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>>149043929
>>149043950

it's a tiny man hidden behind the intercom, isn't it?
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>>149043950
I just override the audio output to a format that extends over a huge radius
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>>149043929
Holograms? Legend of the Sierra Madre: A Memory Den Interactive Story?
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>>149044030
We oblivion gates now
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Crisis averted. I had to make a custom skeleton to get this to work, surprisingly didn't crash the game, OS, or 3ds.

WHOO
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>>149042116
Armor mod???
>>
6 days left.

You guys getting ready for disappointment?

Why play something you hate? Shitty Dopamine neurotransmitters?
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>>149044207

I believe in you
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>>149044230
Yes, that is an armor mod!
>>
I was a little worried that hair physics wouldn't work after the cape I tried making bugged out.

But imo they look pretty great. Got a few clipping issues to fix though...even the vanilla hairs suffer from it, but not as much as this.
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>>149044402
Nice work, Buff. We never lost faith in you.
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>>149044313
Will you please provide a link?
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>>149032191
http://www.strawpoll.me/10790987
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>>149044402
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>>149044758

>tiny
>can't shoot

useless
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>>149044670
Sure thing, bozo. All credits go to Heterodyne.

filedropper com/femaleimcpilotarmor11
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>>149044793
It's clearly a feminine gun penis.
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>>149044895
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>>149045060
I like the air conditioner on your back.
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>>149035278
>This site has been barred from the bugmenot system.
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>>149045167
same
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>>149045185
>going to the actual site

Just log in with the name bugmenot you code.
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>>149045354
i was just being a mild nuisance, i am already logged in
what bethrpg fans don't have an LL account
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>>149045185
what's so hard to make account?
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>>149045539
3 mins beforehand
>>149045415
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Settlement building is more fun than actually doing quests/RPG shit in F4

>mfw covering my entire base with concrete floor to make it nice and smooth
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>>149045849

That's because you're setting your own goals and creating rewards for yourself, not being a slave to someone else's poor idea of ""plot"" in a video game where it doesn't belong
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>>149044758
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Mmm. This clipping is a little annoying. I hope that anon meant it when he said he could fix this!
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>>149046178
Can't you just "push out" the vertexes in that region? I'm pretty sure that's how vanilla hairs do it.
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How is Cait so perfect?
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>>149046293
lol
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>>149045849
>spend hours buidling fort
>raiders spawn inside anyways

It's like bethesda doesn't want us to have fun.
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>>149046464
>not learning the spawn points
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Are Missile Launchers affected by Heavy Gunner, Demolition Expert, or both?
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>>149046530
>implying they wont phase through walls no matter how many you put up
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DUDE LESBIANS LMAO
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>>149046178
Your Piper is platinum cute!
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>>149046557
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+4+missile+launcher
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>>149046178
That Courteney Cox-esque face always gets me, mang.
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>>149046594
So?

>M-MUH LGBT AGENDA IN M-MUH VIDEOGAEMS!!
>>>/pol/
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>>149046761
vg is a pol satellite board retard

just like tv
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>>149046761
>reading into posts this much
>>
Syn reporting in. Daily reminder that Synths are the Master Race, all factions in Fallout 4 are shit especially the Brotherhood, and New Vegas is a much better game than this shit.
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How difficult is it to make your own clothing mods from scratch and implement it into FO4?
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>>149046761
>tfw /pol/ and browse /vg/ all the time
I'm not that guy, but it is fun to occasionally shitpost to keep a thread I'm interested in alive.
Don't forget that /pol/ is a board of peace.
>>
>>149032589
Doing a large weapon and health overhaul thing, currently for personal use but i'll probably release it after i finish this play through were i'm constantly tweaking things. Maybe after nuka world so it has all the official content covered.

basic goal is to unfuck the game of basic bitch RPG progression, and give a consistent, uncompromised FPS experience, no 1000% damage buffs from skills and receivers, barrel length is the only thing to largely impact damage. the only effect of leveling is a new skill point, and progressively deadlier enemies, but no bonus health scaling from levels, for you or anything else. also to fix all of the retarded noguns weapon clambering and stating, good god bethesda.

There are several ok gun overhaul mods, and game play overhaul mods, but this will be complementary and built for each other.
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>>149047275
There's a difference between making and implementing A clothing mod and making and implementing one that is any good. The former is probably not all that difficult, the latter is decidedly not so.
>>
So I just reinstalled Fallout New Vegas

What are some good mods to enhance the vanilla experience? I tried reading the pastebin but it doesnt really answer my question
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>>149046594

Who goes to bed wearing a dress like that?
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>>149046594
There is a lesbian couple in the intro
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>>149048276
i don't remember that
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>>149048260
HUD overhauls, Dust END, Legion Reimagined (I think is the name), mods that increase the amount of roaming troops of the 2 major factions, weapon and armor mods that you think look nice (literally anything on the nexus you like), vanilla weapon retextures (there's a big general one on the nexus) and bug fixes.
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>>149048270
I do anon!
I'll wear cute frilly dresses for you and let you fuck me in the ass!
>>
Fallout Shelter is lots of fun.
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>>149049040
Just like your mom
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>>149049198
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>>149049293
I'm sorry...
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HDT fucking when?
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>>149049553
Just like his mom.
:^)
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>>149049040
I've been having a good time with it as well
been cycling workers between the training room and the power plant
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>>149032589
Banana tits here, i still mod... im just trying to figure out some equipment slot conflicts with hair. It's pissing me off, all i wanted to do was add a hat to kids that doesnt make them bald.
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Decided to restart my old Robotnik character.
Same agenda, but with more emphasis on contraptions and automatron junk.
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>>149051817
What's wrong with your faaaaaace
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>>149032407

Senpai, it's me again from last thread. Strip off your clothes, take a new pic so I can see what is really clipping with the shotgun.
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>>149032589
In Skyrim I replaced the windmill sound with Windy Miller's mill, so I think I know what I'm doing.
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Why does a game as wildly popular as Fallout 4 with some very attractive women have so little good porn?
it's all Elizabeth from Bioshock fucking Dogmeat
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godbless that dismemberment mod
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>>149052703
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>>149046594
IMO could be sisters/relatives hugging after hearing the sirens. If you don't like it, use headcanon or some shit.
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>>149052703

Does the head still talk while its on the ground like that?
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>>149053139
I think so but it's hard for me to tell. I'm hard of hearing so jumbled sounds might be words or they might not. But my targeting system is set up to only highlight enemies, and his head is still lit up so I guess he could still talk from that.

I mostly imagine him like staring vehemently at me and controlling his body through wifi.
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>>149053413

heh. Kinda reminds me of Agnew from Futurama.

Also this hair and bang combo looks like it might work well with Curie's vanilla look.
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What's the best ENB for New Vegas / Fallout 3?
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>>149053986

Also this one
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>>149054020
how do you even set up an enb
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>>149054323
Start by uninstalling Fallout 4.
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>>149054501
well i did that two days ago and it didn't do shit
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>>149036349
>No results on any reverse searches
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>>149036846

>But whatever.
>If you wanna think thats me, whatever.
>whatever whatever whatever whatever
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>>149052509
kek
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>>149055512
You forgot your trip buff
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>>149041594
You just can't catch a break, can you?

>>149041712
I will never stop because it's beyond hilarious now. Especially because most of us have already done it personally and are now laughing at you by mentioning it.

>>149046178
>he
I did, I can. Probably?

All I care about in beth games is waifu garbage, and I've got exp with hairs already, so expect some time put into this at some point.

As you've recently discovered, though, hairs are rather finicky.

Great work, Buff.
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>>149055512
Kids these days.
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>>149052139
The most handsome mad scientist in the Commonwealth
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>>149055512
who is this supposed to be anyway?
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>playing fallout shelter
>goal is to rush 21 rooms
>get a lunchbox at the end

Sweating intensifies
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>be Director of the Institute
>everyone still treats me like their errand boy
>can't get the SRB to stop wasting valuable resources on runaway toasters
>can't get Bioscience to stop fucking their Gorilla clones and make something useful like a GECK
>can't get Robotics to fix the Synth Fabricator so it stops printing copies of the same guy
>can't get Advanced Systems to make anything besides Fisher Price fuckhuge laser rifles
>can't get Facilities to bring back Food Supplement 77
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Is there fix for sentry bot legs so it can go through doors?
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>>149057583
>>can't get Facilities to bring back Food Supplement 77
topkek
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>>149057583
>>149057761
I shamefully confess that this is the one I don't get.
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>>149057583
>can't get the SRB to stop wasting valuable resources on runaway toasters
What's the deal with the synths anyway?

Why did they stop making cybernetics and focus on synths?

>hey guys let's stop enhancing the human body with tech, making people stronger than supermutants and able to live well past 100 years old and still look barely middle aged and start making a bunch of robot people that are only better than humans because they are immune to radiation and have higher energy resistance, and can't even reproduce! Time to doom our species with a bunch of inferior robot clones
And then everyone agreed to it.
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>>149057114
You're not fooling anyone Buffscale.
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Has anyone else still collided with a static object even after using disable? like the object is gone but the collision model is still there, wtf?
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>>149058376
type markfordelete
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SO in fallout shelter what is the best amount to train up my dudes Special to?
also does the Special do much beyond make certain rooms better?
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>>149058376
Disable only hides it.
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>>149032191
>decide to not load up my alternate start mod
>looking at globe in living room
>Mediterranean Sea is kill

I want to believe it was intentional.
Let's headcanon this /fog/
Did the Resource Wars fuck them THAT bad?
Also, world looks super strange with Eurasifica
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>>149058526
it's best to train up your adventurers with endurance, agility, and luck, since those all help them stay alive and grab items. agility affects fire rate, so high agi characters are best for quests
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Everytime i try to interact with an item in a container that has like, more than 2000 it crashes my game.

Im trying to move my 4000 steel from Sanctuary to Spectacle Island but i cant without the game freezing. I've even tried taking 100 at a time, but it still freezes up.
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>>149056235
>You just can't catch a break, can you?

I've fixed it now.

I'm near(ish) to the end. I just need to apply physics to the main hairs now, and do the CK work. Still got a buttload of stuff to do, though.

Got 17 meshes to clean.
Got 9 hairs to give physics to.
Got 14 hairs to give physics to (and then clean)

Then make 700 something AAs and 700 something AOs

I'm not even sure when I'll be done, I want to be done before Starbound 1.0 comes but I don't think that is going to happen unless I forgo sleep tonight and tomorrow night, and I'm not gonna put myself through that.
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Taking creepshots of the waifu
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>>149058626
Do the other Special stats do anything?
and should I just pump their stats to like halfway or so or just Aim for max?
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>>149058579
Might be desertification caused by the numerous nuclear and conventional wars that have been fighting through the region for the decades leading up to the end of the world.
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>>149058768
Nora is perfect.
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>>149056235
I don't give a fuck about your garbage plugsuits, I care about turning the general into a shithole for god knows how many posts over literally nothing. Please don't confuse me for people that want that trash.
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>>149052434
this is as good of a shot as i can take as the 3rd person view is fine
unfortunately i cant take the glove of
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>>149057857
Occasionally, you'll find an Institute scientist in the Cafeteria whining about his favorite synthetic food being removed from the menu. It's pretty funny when you take into account that the Institute is universally regarded as the most evil force in the Commonwealth.

>>149058049
To be fair, there is nothing concrete that suggests Synths are fertile/sterile. It's hard to look past the writing inconsistencies, but from what we gather Gen III physiology is almost certainly human, and it's repeatedly stated the only way to tell the difference is through extensive postmortem examination.

On the other hand, it would make sense that the Institute try to keep them on a leash, at least the worker part of the Synth population...and there's also Deacon's wife, but that in itself was pretty ambiguous. Given Deacon's age and long history within the Railroad, she might have been an older model of Gen III as well (like "Mr. Carter")

I have a working theory that the Institute had once created control groups of fertile Synths, which they planned on using to interbreed with wastelanders for their experiments. Several members of this control group included A3-21 (Harkness), G5-19 (Curie's body) and M7-97 (Danse)
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>>149059050
>Kellogg shoots Nora
>Bullet ricochets off her head
>"What a fool you are. I'm a GOD. How can you kill a GOD? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No recall or intervention can work in this place. Come, lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy."
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>>149057857
It's a gag scene about the institute having one of the supplements removed. It's funny and even has dialogue. I can't remember who says it though.

>>149058768
>http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49373/?
May or may not help depending on how specifically game-related the scripts are written, I remember using it to batch gen arma records for skyrim once, though, and merge scripts still work for F04, so there's hope.
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>>149059410
>Several members of this control group included A3-21 (Harkness), G5-19 (Curie's body) and M7-97 (Danse)
>Dr. Zimmer said A3-21 a "new generation prototype"
Holy shit
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>>149056235

Dude, fuck those plugsuits, if you want to do it by yourself instead of bitching like a faggot here on /fog/, go learn how to texture on PS and make your own using GITS bodysuit

here, this one needs only a retex
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>>149059657

Thanks, I'll try that when I get around to it.
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>Outbreeding the whites mod when?
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>>149052434
here's the problem but on another shotgun
it also seems to effect the vanilla hunting shotgun
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>>149058679
that's a bug i think
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>>149032191
>walk out of vault
>set up camp in one of the trailers right beside it
comfy
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>>149052434
i should have just installed a glove remover first its far more noticeable without it
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>just finished third playthrough
>wat do?
Does Far Harbor pick up where you left off? Is it worth it?
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>>149059276
>>149059965

And there's no clipping if you disable all of Hitman's animations?
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>>149061035
Far Harbor is its own story. Just go play it, I liked it more than the main game.
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>>149060861
>awning not in front of door
>if it's raining you'll have to get wet while you walk from the door to the comfort of your awning
>when the sun is right it will shine right into your open door without the awning there to block it
It's shit.

Also no chairs. Get a fucking lawn chair or something, and put a cooler next to the lawn chair.
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>>149060913
>>149061142

Take a picture with the vanilla Single Shotgun. That way it will be much easier for me to upload a similar picture.

Take one picture with the vanilla SS, using hitman's animations, and one picture without using his animations. I will upload two pics as well in 30 minutes (I'm about to have lunch).
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>>149061554
the single shotgun is fine its only the pump action ones that dont use a pistol grip
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>go through long dungeon
>get out
>mine starts to beep
>run
>bam
>first mine triggers other mine that kills you
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>>149059732
>bitches about people bitching
>tells someone to do something
You just don't get any of it, do you?

>>149032191
I want people to give modding a decent go, it's honestly not hard and I don't understand why more people aren't doing it already, people really just need to try. Start really really small, and then take on harder steps as you need to. People here on /fog/ will always try and help if and where we can, so just make a post if you get stuck on something.

For aspiring outfit modders; take a look at something like hats, masks or goggles, they're some of the easiest things to port, weight, and even sculpt from scratch if you wanted to.

All of the stuff you see on /fog/ is entry-level modding and it's easy to get into if you give it a couple of days. Sans probably Trainwiz's coding and level design genius.

People need to stop crying about requests, and actually try and do something. There are all kinds of modders here, we can help you. If you don't, we're dead before we even got off the ground, and I really don't want that.
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Why did bethesda break their own game?
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>>149062164
Wharf Rats Rule!
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>>149061554
and there is some slight clipping without his mod on with millenias weapon and a lot more with the other one that i showed
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>>149061378
>implying awning is going to stop that rain anyway
seriously, did you look at that thing?
>implying I don't have three fucking chairs and storage inside the trailer

abloobloobloo, this is literally just somewhere to stash some shit and look A E S T H E T I C without settlers showing up and shitting on my plans, drinking my nuka cola, and using my wrenches.
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>lawnchairs
Are there any provisions in workshop to make things pleasing or comfortable for settlers? I mean, does the game sense when you've made things comfortable, like how a human would do it?

Because that would be cool.
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>>149062164
Why would people give modding a try when buffscale already fucked up and did some huge hat porting request bullshit already? The whole teach a man to fish angle doesn't work when you've already gone ahead and fed them a year's supply. Indolence isn't something you just "stop" when you've been getting handouts and will continue to judging by that stupid anime hair project.
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Honestly, when I think about this game, it's terrible story, roleplaying, voice acting, persistent bugginess, idiotic settlement shit, etc..., I don't think I'll ever play another Fallout game again. I guess I'll get TESVI, but Fallout as a series is kind of dead for me.

It's hard to get a grasp of just how disappointing this game is, and I"m not even an Obsidian fanboy. But it's literally killed this franchise in my mind.
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>>149062582
>We have a modder already we don't need any more
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>>149062994
I'll pirate 4 if I ever get a better rig.
Until then I'll keep whining about how we'll never see a complete Fallout game again.
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>>149061807
>>149062234

Take pics using his M37 Ithaca, then, which is the one I have in my inventory at the moment.
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>>149063238
Honestly, it's not even worth that.

It's quite possibly literally the most disappointing game in vidya history
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>>149063201
Thank you for noticing the point I made, also
>we
Don't lump me in with the do-nothings. You can contribute to discussion without using meme arrows, bro.
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>>149063374
Watch Underscore Dogs.
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>>149036742
No there isn't. Get a bat and look.
The finish is cosmetic.
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>>149062994
nice blog. seeya when Fallout 5 releases.
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>>149063560
I'm not gonna buy it, especially as it's gonna be multiplayer settlement wars. I wouldn't buy another bethesda game at all, apart from I just love the elder scrolls universe
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>>149057857
>I shamefully confess that this is the one I don't get.

Background chatter by NPC's (everywhere) that delivers information to the player that is not learned in conversations.
You encounter the Gen-1 Synths being commanded to keep their pathfinding updated, you encounter a Gen-2 Synth being repaired for a worn joint and being considered obsolete trash, all these reveal the Institute's attitude to everyone not part of their hugbox.

You hear the same chatter in Diamond City and Goodneighbor that alert you to quests and the Freedom Trail.
Read terminals for background and pick up all holotapes.
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>>149063646
See you next installment.
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>>149063646
I love both Fallout and TES.
Still not gonna buy anything Beth releases. Not interested in the dismembered corpses of franchises I loved.
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>>149063689
Whatever makes you feel better, bro
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>>149063841
that's how I feel reading your posts lad. I know a person who falls for hype when I see one.
i mean, you're already hyped for the next ES.
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>>149062994

When buying games people need to keep in mind who you are giving your money to.

Fallout 4 may be worth the money one pays for it, but it's nowhere near what one should expect of a Fallout title. I would pirate it if I wanted to play at low-end config, but I don't even like it to do so.
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>>149058579
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa
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>>149063903
again, whatever makes you feel better
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>>149064058
>whatever makes you feel better
tesg is that way.
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Is it common that RWLE for New Vegas makes fire look not so bright during nights? Almost as if there was a darkness filter on top of the image.
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>>149064095
not really sure what your point is. and I'm clearly not hyped about TESVI. I simply can't tear myself away from that universe, unless something truly bad happens (Fallout 4 level bad)

You're obviously upset by my expressing this opinion, likely because you share the same but can't bring yourself to admit it. It's cool, brah. I'm just a guy on the internet.
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>>149064242
whatever makes you feel better.
tesg is still over there tho.
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>>149063423
I just don't understand why people don't try?

>The whole teach a man to fish angle doesn't work when you've already gone ahead and fed them a year's supply.
That's a warped angle though, and the fact that anyone sees it that way is the very source of the problem we're having here.

That hat shit Buff wanted to do, regardless of how many other people wanted it, he still wanted to do it himself, same probably goes for the hairs, and, Buff is a portking anyway, where else does he get his inspiration from other than requests?

So, why would people NOT try modding? "We have one", just doesn't make any sense to me. The more of us there are the more content we can push out, right?
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>>149063361
here's the Ithaca without hitmans mod
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>>149064334
Now I have seen many strategies to keep a conversation going purely for the sake of cheap (You)s, but I am surprised by how brutally simple this one is.
Rote repetition should not be so effective.
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>>149064445
hey man, it's whatever makes you feel better.
I'm just subtly implying you should leave /fog/ while you still can, this lore is going wherever toddyman wants it to go, some of us don't really care, we didn't play the older games.
Some of you do, and, like when GW introduced AoS, you should just stop playing WHFB while you can, as it's only going to make you angrier as the company shies further and further away from that original game.
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>>149064569
Not the same anon, actually.
Just someone who joined the fray for the sake of curiosity.
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>>149064430

I need to ask.

You ARE using Weapon Animations Replacer, right? It's hard to compare when our settings are different. Case in point: even with Enhanced Camera turned off, my character doesn't hold the shotgun like yours does.
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@149064569
@149064695
Would you both just kindly fuck off.
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>>149064569
'sides, pointing people at /tesg/ isn't going to help any. Beth fucked up Elder Scrolls at least as bad as Fallout.
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>>149064569
That guy wasn't me, btw

And I didn't really play the older games. I played 3, and only played NV a little. I don't care about the original games. Hell, if this game had been even as good as Oblivion (I think Skyrim is better than Oblivion, if that gives you any insight) I would have been fine.

Instead, it's a buggy, horribly voice acted, largely repetitive POS. It's almost more tedious than fun.

And when I got the bug where I couldnt' assign settlers the other day, and faced the prospect of starting over. Initially, I was like, whatever, I can just do a different playthrough. Except I realized that it wouldn't be different at all. I would maybe have different specials, and that's about it.

Totally depressingly bad game.
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>>149064843
>skyrim better than oblivion
I now see why you don't want to go to /tesg/.
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When will Fallout 5 be announced?
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>>149064569

>some of us don't really care, we didn't play the older games.

This is why Fallout went to shit, fast.
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>>149064958
I don't want to go to TESG because there isn't a new TES game, and I haven't played Skyrim in forever.

But yes, those people literally think the leveling system in Oblivion wasn't total garbage that actually punished you for leveling up, unless you did it in an extremely deliberate, totally non-immersive way
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>>149064843
>it's buggy
Like every other FO title since 3
>horribly voice acted
see above
>largely repetitive
see above
>POS
see above.
>it's almost more tedious than fun
Okay.

>settler bug
I'd expect you to experience some bugs.

>>149065059
Holy shit you remind me of my WHFB group.
I love it, are you fat, autistic, and play with 2,000 points of female elves too?
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>>149065116
>voice acting
>see above
what are you even talking about?

And I never encountered any literally game breaking bugs in 3. Maybe I was one of the lucky ones
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>>149065194
>maybe
yep.
>voice acting
has been shit in all fallout titles.
???
Only difference is the PC has it now too.
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>>149065248
hell, I can't think of a good voice actor in any Bethesda game that didn't go through a machine and edited first.
Might have something to do with the Star-Wars tier dialogue.
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>>149065248
Your character wasn't voiced in the other fallouts

I don't care about NPCs, as they don't affect my ability to roleplay as anything other than a giant faggot
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Is it weird that I populate my fallout shelter vault exclusively by making cousins fug
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>>149065371
So because you're too autistic to learn how to disable the voice the entire game is shit?
Nice.
>tfw learned how within 12 hours of release
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>>149065090
Well, yeah, gameplay and graphics-wise Skyrim had a few advantages.
But alas. No dodging. No viable unarmed combat. Shitty story, awful voice acting. Stale, linear dungeon design.

Come to think about it, the last three points apply to every recent Bethesda game.
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>>149065371
You can't RP in 3 either since you're forced to be an 18 year old little faggot fresh out of a sheltered vault.

The only desicions the game ever gives you is to be a goody little two shoes naive kid or an crazy lolsorandumb psycopath.
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>>149064778
no im not using Weapon Animations Replacer
i dont like WAR it always bugs up some stuff for me
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>>149065505
I could enable voice fairly easily

and no, that's not the reason the entire game is shit, as evidenced by all of the other reasons.

the game isnt' shit or not shit. It's shit to me, and the fact that you feel the need to argue everything about that means that it's shit to you too. And you don't like me talking about it because it's making you think that you don't like it either.

If you do like it, good for you. You should play it instead of trying to convince yourself that it isn't garbage.
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Help /vg/, my night scope/recon scope doesn't work. What do I do to fix it?
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>>149065541
It was a bit like that in 3, but not nearly as bad as 4

at least there were legit evil decisions to make, even if they were cartoonish.
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>>149065020
>When will Fallout 5 be announced?

When will the new game testing for the Console releases be finished?

When will the retards ask the developers instead of asking other ignorant retards?
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>>149065625
>i could
but you don't, and cry about it.
>no that's not
It seems to be a large gripe from you
>the game is shit to me
Great for you.
>abloobloobloo
Nah I just think you're complaining to complain. I could nitpick every little detail I didn't like about FO and cry about how I could've done it better but I don't.
>if you do like it
If you don't like FO, maybe you should stop posting in FO general.
Or am I missing something?
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>>149065116

>Holy shit you remind me of my WHFB group.

What the fuck?
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>>149065810
lol
again, whatever makes you feel better about it all bro

I know, I used to argue against the people who were saying it's shit too.

I'm posting in the FOG because I'm talking about F) and how disappointing it is. Should I post that in TESG?
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>>149065759
what mods are you using
do you have an ENB on?
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>>149065869
Bunch of salty neckbeards crying about "muh AoS kiddies who never played WHFB are the reason GW won't revive us"
Totally not because your sales were shit.

>>149065904
whatever makes you feel better, bro.
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My waifu is heroic! My waifu is statuesque!
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>>149065568

Well, that's the problem. Millenia himself tells you you NEED to install the mod.

"We recommend it in general for all the little animation bug fixes as well as new/modified animations it provides. Critical animation resources have been packaged in with the mod, but this mod is still recommended. Animation related bug reports will be ignored if you're not using this mod. "
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>>149065958
It does make me feel better. I've been somewhat depressed thinking about how empty and disappointing this game is

Venting about things that are depressing you tends to make you feel better about it. It's also helped me feel better about the decision never to play FO games again.
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>>149066025
wouldn't that cause problems with Hitmans mod?
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>>149065958

What does that have to do with anything?

Fallout went to shit because Bethesda never understood what Fallout is about.

You know how I know Fallout went to shit? Because I played FO1 after FO3 and NV, and I realized that FO3 fucked everything up and FNV returned to the roots, which is why I liked it even more without even knowing why.

Bethesda tries to make the TES formula (fucked up to begin with) work in a different series, like the lazy bastards they are. As a result, Fallout 4 isn't anything like Fallout.
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>>149066168

Well, probably, but you need to install Hitman's mod on top. One way or another, if you are using Millenia's weapons, you should definitely give priority to WAR over Hitman's.
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>>149066161
>I don't play FO
>but I post in FO general
if spam makes you feel better

>>149066179
Yep, you really must be.
Is your name Anthony?
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>>149066179
TES formula being?
Cos Daggerfall and Morrowind were next to perfect, Oblivion was still pretty decent and Skyrim was when everything turned to shit.
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>>149066407
"Tes formula" means that "I have no real complaints so I'm going to add one that seems legit"
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>>149066321
I did play FO as recently as yesterday. I've been thinking about it today, browsing the Bethesda forums and seeing how widespread the bugs are.

It made me even more depressed to see that and how little (if anything?) is being done. I would say that I won't play a Beth game again, but gain, I love TES too much.

Sorry that my disappointment is mirroring your own disappointment that you wish to ignore, but you are gonna have to deal with that on your own. Dont' get angry at me about it. Like I said before, I'm just a guy on the internet
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>>149065958
>>149066179

And I should add the differences between both series.

TES:

- Exploration.
- Lots of quests.
- Lots of fetching.
- Grand epic storyline.
- Meaningless characters.
- Kill kill kill.
- Few options (if any) to resolve quests.

Fallout:

- Emphasis on interaction over exploring.
- Emphasis on solving quests in multiple ways.
- Ability to talk your way through the game.
- Low key storyline, but serious in its themes.
- Important, memorable characters.

I love Morrowind and I love New Vegas. But it's hard not to notice Morrowind belongs to the first group, and New Vegas to the second. And it's even harder not to notice that FO3 and FO4 definitely belong to the first group.
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>>149066559
whatever makes you feel better, mein spammer.
tho, gotta wonder how you don't play FO if you played FO early yesterday? is this one of those "I'm going to quit between monday and friday, that counts as something, right?" situations?
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>>149066593
What do you mean, "meaningless"? Characters pretty much are half of what makes a RPG.
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I want to put mayonnaise on Nora's anus and then lick it off.
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Truth is, they ruined weapons with this new system.
Now you have a small variety of weapon

"Rare, Uncommon, Enhanced, Legendary"?
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to turn Fallout into some shitty online game without the online part?

In Fallout 3 you have 70~ weapons.
In New Vegas you have over 200 weapons.
In Fallout 4 you have 80~ weapons.

There is the modding part that should add variety and taste to the weapons, but, ultimately, it doesn't, it actually makes weapons bland.
>maybe Kellogg will have a one-of-a-kind revolver that has a nice visual and all
>NOPE, JUST A NORMAL REVOLVER WITH MODS YOU CAN ADD YOURSELF

Fuck Todd, man.
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>>149066670
I never said I don't play fallout; you did

I said I'm not going to play another fallout game again. I told you that this was a thing I was thinking about today, as I had just gotten a game breaking bug and was browsing the Beth forums. I'm not certain why you are taking this so personally. You can still play fallout. I'm just voicing my own disappointment, because it makes me feel better to vent.

Still, you may want to look into why you feel so defensive. Being honest with yourself is extremely important
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>>149066814
"Mods will fix it."
-Todd
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>>149066882
>>149066161
> It's also helped me feel better about the decision never to play FO games again.
See you next release anon.
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>>149066593

Moreover, these are traits that make sense.

- TES is a fantasy series. You are expected to become an all-mighty god amongst mortals. You are expected to murder everything, get to the action and get shit done as soon as possible. You have an epic storyline of divine proportions, and of course, you are put in a fantasy world to explore.
- Fallout is set in a post-apocalyptic setting. It's about humanity, how it behaves in the setting. That is why the emphasis lies on interactions, how you tackle issues, different approaches. As a result, characters are better developed, the story is not fantastic in nature, but more "realistic" and has a believable progression.

A fantasy setting where you talk your way through issues doesn't really work because that's not what you expect when you are being sold things as "DRAUGR!" "DRAGONS!" "DREMORA!". You face monsters most of the time, and you can't talk your way out with monsters. In Fallout you face humans most of the time, before Bethesda turned Super Mutants into Ogres.
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>>149066882
Not him, but why aren't you going to play another Fallout again?
Fallout 1.5 is actually pretty good, you should try it.

If you mean, "I won't play another Bethesda Fallout again", then I agree with you. Fallout 4 was too damn disappointing.
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>>149064980
Wow!

Looks like dogshit.

Maybe if you used the good mask design instead of the garbage that guy put out for Fallout 3 you'd be in business.

Mesh for body is fine though, even if the textures seem a bit flat.
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>>149066764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhdP2FxHN_M
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>>149066971
>the story is not fantastic in nature, but more "realistic" and has a believable progression.
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>>149067000
thing is that one IS the Fallout 3 one that was ported to NV then to 4
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>>149032691
Did you ever release that music pack Nexus kept removing?
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>>149066014
"Statuesque".

That's a fun word, isn't it.
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>>149066760

As in, they barely make any difference and are hardly memorable. They may be memorable because of certain quirks they have (like that one faggot from House Hlaalu), but not because of how they interact with the story or the setting.

This is why TES has so many pointless fetch quests, whereas Fallout 1 on the other hand had a "fetch quest" that was extremely important in nature: help the Vault survive. And that thing aside, I can't seem to remember another fetch quest in the entire game.

Unless we consider "recon the Super Mutants base" a fetch quest.
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>>149066961
Again, if that helps you deal with your own emotions, so be it. I hope you feel like slaying the internet representation of your own conflicting feelings will help you enjoy your life more.

>>149066973
Fair enough. I would probably play a non-Bethesda FO game. I am so disappointed in this game though.
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>>149067189
See you next release, anon.
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/ss/haun mods when?
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>>149067171
1, maybe.
2, not so much.
Reason being there wasn't this much in Fallout 1 to begin with compared to 2.
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>>149067368
Fuck off Buffscale.
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http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46043/?

When will this happen for FO4?

I need it for immersive reasons.
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>It's another "FO4 is the worst Fallout to date" episode
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>>149067402
Fuck off Izzy you NIGGER
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>>149067132

Care to elaborate why you don't think it is that way?

In Morrowind you are a reincarnated God, or at least you behave like one.
In Skyrim you are the legendary Dragonborn who saves the entire continent.

In Fallout you are some guy sent to retrieve a chip, and you are then tasked with destroying a Super Mutant base. Which is the equivalent of any real life war, really. Same thing goes for New Vegas, you are basically one dude pulling the strings on factions bent to kill each other.

In Fallout 3 you are a 17-year old kid who has lived his entire life in a Vault and then murders Raiders and Super Mutants, and defeats a huge ass army-inspired faction.
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>>149066315
well i installed war and then hitmans mod and...nothing changed
oh well ill just see if i can ask hitman himself and see if he knows whats wrong
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>>149067489
>*season
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>>149067482
That's a roleplaying feature.
Fallout 4 is not a roleplaying game.
Therefore, never.

>>149067529
Well, 3 is a bad example.
Try 4.
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>>149065954
Some recon scope replacers that I've already uninstalled but it's still fucked
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>>149067529
>Defeat large para-military faction
>Alone
>Not the stuff of fantasy
Okay
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>>149067391

It's true. Then again, New Vegas isn't like this either, and it was made by people who worked on the original games or were working on the original Fallout 3.

Everything I've been doing so far in New Vegas had actual reasons to be happening which I could see in the world. It's not nostalgia speaking since the memory is fresh, as I'm doing a playthrough right now.

Unlike TES's "go get these pants to someone in that huge ass crab city, I trust you".
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>>149067508
Why are you so mad? Is it because I make good mods and you dream about little boys?
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>>149067801
New Vegas had tons of collection quests, though.
Munitions, scrap, drugs, the parts for some machinery or another (ex: food processor).
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>>149067529
Having replayed the older games Fallout 4 is worse about this. From the very first game it's been somewhat believable because you can get by without actually killing so many people like a one man army. It's something like Sam Fisher or James Bond where a single guy manages to fuck over a huge force indirectly.

But in Fallout 4 it feels more like TES in that you're a living god in the wasteland that single handedly commits genocide.
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>>149067789
>alone
>entire brotherhood of steel
>liberty prime
>alone
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>>149067789

Did you missed the part where I said Fallout 3 clearly fit the TES guidelines?

>>149066971
>>149066593
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>>149067143
No shit, Sherlock.
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>>149067789
you don't really do it alone, i mean there is that 60 foot tall robot and 20 or so people in power armor helping you but I get what you mean
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>>149067805
Better than dreaming about little girls and pretending to be them, you anime loving self bleaching nigger in denial
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>>149067940
That's mopping up a few loose ends. Raven Rock was the majority of the group.
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>>149068059
>raven rock was the majority
so it was a paramilitary force about the size of the BoS.
That's not really "massive".
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>>149067904

Those were the "radiant" quests, if you want to call it that way, except the Food Processor actually made sense.

As I said earlier, it's not like Farengar asking you to give Arcadia some salts that don't change anything in the game or in the setting so to speak. The Food Processor was, as explained by the cook, important to keep the morale up. When I did that quest, I didn't felt personally insulted, which is more than I can say about "hey, go fetch me this", "hey, go fetch me that". (And you could just jury rig the processor with the right skills)
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>>149068124
Never said it was.
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When will Bethesda learn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkA3KKSHx9o
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>>149068059

This.

>>149068124

Considering they are a faction that has Power Armor, and we are talking about many soldiers, one wouldn't expect a 17-year old to pull it off, at all.

At least in FO1 you are escorted with some BoS members and you can be wearing Power Armor too, which is OP as fuck and let's you wreck the Super Mutants, as long as you aren't facing the ones with Rocket launchers (you could always take those out first).
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>>149068042
I don't even watch anime. You seem really upset though. Maybe you should start making better life choices. I get laid all the time because I go out into the real world, Buff. Try it sometime.
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>>149068440
I will drive a truck into you Izzy
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>>149068440
>>149068581
>this is a discussion between 2 men over the age of 18
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>>149068717
Iz is 30 by now
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>>149068405
Your argument might have merit if PA in FO3 and NV was anything other than a glorified outfit.
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>>149068581
0/5 apply yourself

>>149068717
Why are you shitposting?
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>>149066814
>Truth is, they ruined weapons with this new system.

>In Fallout 3 you have 70~ weapons.
>In New Vegas you have over 200 weapons.
>In Fallout 4 you have 80~ weapons.

>Fuck Todd, man.

And you had poor reloading animations with each of the hundred weapons.
In FO4 you get overpowered by level 20/30 with guns or melee weapons.

FO4 is not a reworked copy of FO3 or FNV!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

Fuck you and drink bleach.
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>>149068440
>laid
>by 3DPD

takes all kinds
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>>149068841

>it's that "the mechanics are canon" episode
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>>149068954
>It's another "canon ignores mechanics" episode.
So how do you explain Raven Rock canonically?
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>>149067529
>>149068405
Lone Wanderer is 19
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>>149068948
>never touched a real girl before
Get out of your mom's basement sometime kid.
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>>149068841
As it was in literally every game before 4.
Hell, in the originals you didn't even need training.
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>>149068898
The weapon reloads are even worse in FO4.
Hell, people thought the LAR reload was bugged but nope, that's how it's supposed to be.
>>
Man, this game is a fucking disaster
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>>149069209
Actually, PA was extremely useful in FO1/2
In FO3/NV it became another aesthetic locked behind a perk.
In FO4 they returned the usefulness, even making it so useful that if you have trouble, power armor might actually change the outcome!
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>>149069165
this girl at mcdonalds touched my hand when she gave me my drivethru order
>now I make my mom go
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>>149069351
Next time, please elaborate beforehand on what you meant by "glorified outfit", then.

Also, "another" aesthetic? What else is perk-locked?
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>>149069469
>another aesthetic, locked behind a perk.
The comma, lad.
not
>another aesthetic locked behind a perk
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PA-mounted weapons when?
Given that Google refuses to help me I assume they aren't a thing yet.
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>>149069569
>>149069469

wait, shit, I forgot my comma.
oh well
you get my point, you're just nitpicking
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No memes, explain to me why the player has to die of radiation while turning on the purifier?
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>>149069710
your lack of ability to use contextual clues (and your own knowledge) to piece together an ambiguous statement isn't my fault.

Any actual points to make?
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>>149069591
when there is a controller with more buttons
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>>149069703
gripping storyline?
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>>149069802
"Contextual clues" meaning "telepathically assessing what you intend to communicate instead of reading what you actually write".

As for the "actual points", I'unno. What's your point?
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>>149069158

I could have sworn he was 17, thanks.

>>149069032

Probably a bigger facility, and with Power Armor that is actually good and not thick clothing.

>>149069469

Not the anon who said it, but glorified outfit is just what it says on the tin: an outfit that it better than the others, but hardly anything more than that.

By comparison PA in Fallout 1 was extremely powerful. Whereas in FNV I can easily play without Power Armor, in Fallout 1 not using Power Armor when entering Mariposa is basically asking to get killed.
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>>149067482
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14326/?
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>>149069972
A comma isn't that hard to imagine.

>what's your point
That PA is a glorified outfit in FO3/NV and using "but they had power armor!" as an argument to why the LW couldn't wipe out Raven Rock is wrong due to the glorified outfit status?

>>149070043
>how do you make it canon?
>by ignoring it
Lol.
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>>149069972
>>149069802
>>149069710
>>149069569
>>149069469

>it's a "you made a grammatical error in your post and therefore your argument is invalid episode"
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>>149069806
Why not a shoulder-mounted Missile/Cluster Bomb launcher that replaces the grenade hotkey?
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>>149070043
Well, yes.
The problem arises from contrast with 4, where power armour - unlike any previous game - literally isn't an outfit you select iny our inventory screen but an actual vehicle.
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>>149070193
because putting the melee button and grenade button on the same key is fucking retarded.
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>>149070152

>Lol.

Are you clinically retarded or something? Just because we don't see it in-game, do you think in the Fallout universe nobody takes a piss or a shit?

Actually, don't respond, I've taken the bait.
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>>149070043
You could have sex in Fallout 3. Too many countries are cucked to allow that to happen to a 17 year old even in a video game
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>>149070309
>not responding after bait was taken
>not reeling it in and gutting it
Unrealistic expectations.
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>>149070263

It's the one thing Fallout 4 did mostly right, except for the fusion cores. It's an annoying mechanic introduced because Bethesda wanted the players to get PA early in the game. And because PA is now OP, they had to nerf it somehow.

Enter fusion cores that barely last anything.
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>>149070347
>too many countries

Nope, only the USA.
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>>149070043
>Probably a bigger facility, and with Power Armor that is actually good and not thick clothing.
What did he mean by this
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>>149070347
Yo, this is the shit that made no sense

Her parents waited until she was 18 to sell her to slavers? WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY WAIT FOR HER TO TURN 18? It makes literally zero sense, as if raiders wouldn't do it because she's underage (in America)

fucking stupid shit I hate this game
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>>149070347
>17 year old
19.
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>>149070438
When the inevitable Fallout equivalent of TESRenewal rolls around (>implying) I suppose they'll get rid of that bullshit.
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>>149070438
Yeah, but fusion cores are literally found in trash bins.
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>>149070450
Even countries with age of consent below 18 are too cucked to allow visual depictions of it, even if it's 2D
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>>149070397

Yeah, I was about not to respond, but whatevs.
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>>149070309
>It's another mechanics = canon episode

Your explanation for how RR went down was to ignore how RR went down and change it.
Face it, the Enclave wasn't even very large. This isn't the West Coast.
Their schtick was kinda being a SMALL ENCLAVE OF SURVIVORS KIND OF LIKE A VAULT OR MAYBE THE BoS.

Why not something actually believable, like how RR had already deployed the majority of their PA to the Wasteland? What does making the enclave bigger (and making it even harder to believe our wittle wone wonderer without his fancy pancy PA beat not just RR but RRx2!)
Seriously, did you even consider that response if you were just bitching about it not being realistic in the first place?
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>>149070027
cloth physics needs havok for collisions otherwise the cloth will clip through the player
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>>149070553
Reading comprehension.
I know, I know, it took me two tries as well.
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>>149070347
*are too
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>>149070646
Why dont you tweet Pete Hines
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>>149070772
>doesn't age well
trash
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>>149070582

Hope so.

>>149070583

Yeah, but still... Power Armor is supposed to last for a good good while, so if people don't grow up in-game, while should our Power Armor run out of fuel?

It's one of the worst cases of balance breaking the lore, and it's made even worse because it was unnecessary.
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>>149070948
She aged really well for a 102 years old woman living in a desert wasteland, mate.
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>>149070936
why don't you tweet your waif-
oh, right.
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>>149070772
>tfw playing Fallout for the first time and falling in love with her
I dont think she even had a notable quest. Why bother giving her art
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>>149070772
That's not how you spell Kerith.

>>149071030
Molten Clouds is what I want to believe in.
Also, re: power armour, F1's description literally said the fuel would last for a hundred years.
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>>149070772
Except that Isabel is.
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>>149071161
and it's been 210 years, assuming they were brand new 5 minutes before the bombs fell, so why are they even still running?
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>>149071030
Yeah, that is my point, it was completely unnecessary because fusion cores are everywhere.
I guess they just wanted to show off new mechanics even if it was in a dumb convoluted way as having the player getting the best armour and defeating the most dangerous creature in the first 10 minutes of the game.

This shows what audience they want.
The CoD/Minecraft audience.
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>>149070646

Eh? I never said anything about Raven Rock. I literally said Fallout 3 is stupid shit just like the Elder Scrolls. How do you want me to explain crap from a lore point of view if it doesn't make any sense at all? A 19-year old destroying a facility of military personnel wearing Power Armor?

It's not up to me to fix Bethesda's mess, I could easily create an explanation but that is against what Bethesda showed us: that you can actually make the fucking president self-destruct. You. A 19-year old boy/girl who lived his entire life in a Vault.
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>>149069240
>The weapon reloads are even worse in FO4.

Moving reloading and recharging to the left hand so it doesn't block the screen ib bad.
Deleting the dozens of types of reloading to remove game bloat is bad.
Giving the player the ability to improve guns and armor at Stations is bad.

Changing the dialog options to allow the game to be played on Console controllers and dumping the drop down list is bad. Maximizing sales of the game is bad.

Giving the player voiced dialog is bad because my legacy game didn't have it is bad. All games are going voiced, get over it.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>149071120
How did you know Todd blocked me
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>>149071248
Gee whiz, I don't know.
Why does a battery tend to last longer when the device it's slotted into is off?
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>>149071281
>it's another gameplay mechanics = canon episode
I asked you how you would make it canon. You made it less canon.
I think that about wraps that up.


>>149071290
I'm todd

>>149071320
so what about all the fusion cores still powering things you found?
Did every PA suit in the Wasteland just get ignored until you showed up? Is nuclear fusion comparable to a battery?
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>>149071286
All this strawman and so little time
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>>149071281
Fallout 1: 16 year old boy/girl who lived his entire life in a vault can make the Master suicide, destroy the Cathedral and blow up Marioposa base all while killing hundreds of raiders.
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>149071286
0/10, the 'get over it' was too obvious
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>>149071467
>Did every PA suit in the Wasteland just get ignored until you showed up?
Well, they certainly weren't on for 210 years.
>Is nuclear fusion comparable to a battery?
MF cells say hi.
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>>149071467
it doesnt matter your question is stupid
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>>149071161
>>149071248

You guys know what, I forgot about the military presence before the bombs fell.

I used to think it was armor from the BoS, so why didn't they recover it, or refuel it, or so on?
It actually makes more sense to me now, since they were nobody's armor but some poor sods who died because of the bombs.

Still, fuck off Todd, you could have just left the armor right there as war relics, unusable, without the player being able to miraculously fix it, getting rid of the need for cores we don't need since we get the armor in the lategame and there's no point to balance it by then.
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>>149070772
>Tandee
>not Moira
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>>149069591
>PA-mounted weapons when?

What is Telsa armor and Explosive venting mods?

Tanks are not a thing in Fallout.
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>>149071604
Well, I think they are, and PA was designed to walk up to them and punch 'em in the viewport.
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>>149071567
>Well, they certainly weren't on for 210 years.

You're saying literally nobody had the willpower to collect some of the most abundant fuel sources in the wasteland to power easily the most advanced pre-war based technology?

I seriously doubt that, in every past game power armor is treated like solid gold.
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>>149071491
After all these years why are there no loli and shota mods? Literally all Id have to do is make some sprites which should be easy.
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>>149071591
hehehno you still need something to offset the ezmode of your noobsuit bro
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>>149071581
it doesn't matter, your answer is stupid.

>>149071567
So you have an exact log of every suit of Power Armor ever existing in FO and what it was used for in the time between 2077 and 2287?
Sauce?
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>>149071604
Is Tactics not canon
>>
Why isnt Massachusetts a state in Fallout?
>>
in case some of you guys aren't aware.

http://fogmods.weebly.com/home/maxwells-world-stream-by-trainwiz
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>>149071604
>Tanks are not a thing in Fallout.

What? Tanks so were a thing, power armor was the next step in combing tank firepower with the small silhouette of a soldier.
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>>149071467

Anon says the 19-year old Lone Wanderer could realistically destroy Raven Rock since power armor is nothing but thick clothing.

I tell him lorewise Power Armor is OP as fuck, and the Lone Wanderer never stood a chance against a base full of trained soldiers wearing Power Armor.

He asks me to explain how the Lone Wanderer beat them

The answer: awful writing, that's how. All I've told you is that Raven Rock is a terrible piece of storytelling, because you are tasked to achieve something that, in your conditions (completely unarmed in a populated base of PA wearing soldiers, may I add, their armor is MUCH BETTER THAN THE BROTHERHOOD's T45d model) is impossible for a 19-year old.

How would I have done the quest? This way.

- Lone Wanderer is rescued by that one scientist from Project Purity working for the Enclave.
- He recovers his equipment.
- Tasked to escape through the sewers, airways, or whatever shit he can do to remain undetected.
- Escapes.

You can't just fix what's broken to begin with. It looks half assed because the quest itself is half assed. You destroy the President single-handedly.
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>>149071776
why doesn't the pipboy ever run out of power?????
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>>149072096
because states as we know them aren't either
not the real world flag because they got merged into superstates(commonwealths) at some point
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>>149072189
Solar power
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>>149072189
For the same reason desktop computers never run out of power. It's a basic as fuck BIOS running on a nuclear battery.
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>>149071705
Most of them are locked behind gates that need 30 lockpicking points. Only Vaultkin have the power to level up and boost points into skills like that. Almost no one in the wasteland is capable of it. Similar to how only the Vaultkin has the power to make settlements overnight
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>>149071705
Does nothing to address the point: PA isn't kept running for years on end if its user has half a brain (and half a brain is required to determine its value.)

Disregarding any of this, the description in the original games states that it has enough fuel left for a hundred years, indicating that irrespective of what happened to the suit before it's still got enough juice in it to run for a century.
This is of special concern for the certainly not mothballed BoS suits you acquire in the first game.
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LEAVE
ME
ALONE
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>>149072125
The president is a talking computer with no way of defending himself, in "control" of nobody but other robots.
So, if you destroy RR, why doesn't the Enclave completely disappear from the Wasteland? You after all, killed them all, right?
Nope, you have to re-write the entire thing instead of removing the one problem there - Power Armor.
Either the LW gets a suit, or Autumn has already deployed the majority. Simple, easy, lore and mechanics friendly.
No need for your spergass to write a whole new shitty quest.

>>149072189
Pip-boy doesn't drain energy like PA.
Why doesn't your PC run off a phone battery?
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>>149072415
>we pooled together and got you this
>hands you a single squirrel on a stick
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>>149070506
>Her parents waited until she was 18 to sell her to slavers? WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY WAIT FOR HER TO TURN 18? It makes literally zero sense, as if raiders wouldn't do it because she's underage (in America)
>fucking stupid shit I hate this game

Amphetamins are Jet in earlier games but that's OK just because.
The Abernathy daughter was killed and not taken as a rape slave because it would have been Politically Incorrect.
There is NO religion except a preacher in Diamond City who will hook up a robot and a human.

It's a Fantasy World dude.
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>>149072496
>Squirrel on a stick is a common food item
>Literally zero squirrels in any Fallout game
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>>149072583
>he wants squirrels instead of actual content
that's why FO4 was ruined.
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>>149072125
Why are you making a big deal over him being 19? Why would it be more believable if he was 30? Maxson is 20 in Fallout 4.
The Lone Wandferer's a coddled and well trained vault dweller. Unlike you they didnt spend their formative years jerking off.
Did you drop the Three Musketeers once you realized that D'Artagnan was 14 and ends up fighting half of Europe?
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>>149072583
Because they're hunted for food.
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>>149032191
>Vault-Tec makes a fallout shelter program designed to "shield the American Dream"
>Implications to "Rebuild America"
>you get in
>It's a literal communist society

fucking irony.
I love it.
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>>149072583
It's probably rat m8
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>>149071485
>All this strawman and so little time

Go back to FO3 and FNV and get raped by fire breathing Ants and fire breathing Geckos.
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>>149072431

>The president is a talking computer with no way of defending himself

This is true, except the only way you can "legitimately" destroy it is using the self-destruct sequence. Otherwise, it's silly Beth "skill checks" that don't make any sense.

>Nope, you have to re-write the entire thing instead of removing the one problem there - Power Armor.

The one problem is that you don't understand I'm calling the quest shit. You try to make me fix a quest, when I don't have to.

All I said is that, as it is portrayed to us by Bethesda, the quest doesn't make any sense. And it is canonically the truth: that Lone Wanderer defeated the base single handedly. And that is why it is TES material.

It doesn't matter if you can rewrite the quest to be better. What matter is that your quest isn't canon, and Bethesda's is.

>you have to re-write the entire thing

If I'm going to write parts of the story, I would have it rewritten to be actually good.
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>>149072572
But they could have just omitted the "Waited until me 18th birthday" part entirely. Instead, they explicitly shoehorned that information into her speech, despite it not making any sense whatsoever.
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>>149072981
>doesn't make any sense
nothing makes sense in FO logically.
>you try to make me fix a quest
So you're just going to cry about it until Todd changes it? What? That's realistic.

>to be good
Oh man. I'll humor you.
Do it, fire up FO3's GECK.
Remake RR how you imagine it.
I'll play it.
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>>149038424
Closer to 25-45 grand
Belt fed guns like M60s generally go for about 100 grand.
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>>149073029
>despite it not making any sense whatsoever.
because it would not be PC otherwise
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>>149071281
Fallout 2: character that grew up among tech-hating, loincloth-wearing, smells-faintly-of-patchouli, retarded, hippie tribals, can drive a car and beat up a cybernetically enhanced, mutant secret service agent.

Why is Avellone such a liberal faggot?
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>>149072738

Because he is a baby from a Vault. And he manages to destroy an entire army of military trained soldiers.

>Why would it be more believable if he was 30?

It the context of FO3, it wouldn't at all. In the context of New Vegas, age does make a difference, since an older Courier is more experienced than a younger Courier.

Maxson is not the same as a Vault-born baby.

>Unlike you they didnt spend their formative years jerking off.

Please point me to the lore that says Vault Dwellers are trained in fighting Super Mutants and Raiders?

At least Obsidian bothered with Vault 34. They wrecked shit on Raiders and such because they were heavily trained in firearms and explosives.
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>pearl the robot comes to far harbor for help
>pearl harbor
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>>149073292
please point to me in the lore that says that Vault Dwellers are not trained in any weapons whatsoever in any vault.
please point to me in the lore that says that Security Guards are unarmed and only use their soft gloves to restrain undesirably Dwellers.
Please show me in the lore where it was established the LW did not choose the GOAT path that resulted in Security Guard, and as such would have believably trained with pistols and batons.
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>>149073148

>nothing makes sense in FO logically.

Fallout's world is not logical, but like any fictional world, it strives to be believable.

It is logical that a father loves his son. It is not logical that his response to his son blowing up an entire town is "I'm very disappointed".

>So you're just going to cry about it until Todd changes it? What? That's realistic.

No, that's missing the thread of the conversation and how it started as "Fallout is that way, TES, FO3 and FO4 are this way".

>Remake RR how you imagine it.

I don't use the GECK.
I don't play FO3.
I won't fix FO3 because of one quest.
And I certainly don't consider myself to be a good writer.
But I'm not a good cook either, and I recognize shit food when I taste it.

>>149073228

I would need to play FO2, but I've heard that it is nothing like Fallout 1.
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>>149073215
your lighting mod isn't at the bottom of your load order, I'm assuming RWL and I've had this happen in McCarran where everything was super bright because of some conflict until I reorganized it
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>>149073361
>a white spherical robot is named "Pearl"

WOW!
DEEPEST LORE!
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>>149073598
>I can totally remake it BETTER
>but I refuse to
So you're just bitching to bitch, and trying to wave your dick around like you have a decent idea.
Here's your (you).
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>>149032191
>no option for Courier to commit suicide after he finds out what he did in The Divide.
Immersion ruined. Why can't I play an actual good person instead of a satirical caricature?
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>>149074023
My bait sense is tingling, so let's dance.
Suicide is morally wrong irrespective of circumstances.
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>>149073632
Hey it worked, moved it to the bottom and loaded up, the white light slowly faded away, weird. Thanks for the help.
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>>149072371
nuclear power does not work like that

fission and planned fusion reactors use material with a half life. A plasma fusion reactor currently being planned will use deuterium as fuel. deuterium has a half life of around 12 and a half years.

In 12 and a half years, 1kg of deuterium will be 500g. 25 years, 250g. 100 years, under 4g. 200 years, less than a milligram.

Any material in a fusion cell designed to run for 100 years will be severely depleted after 200 years, even if it hasn't been in use.
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>>149074023
>committing suicide because something bad happened that you had no knowledge of nor control over
wew lad
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>>149074120
>morally wrong
Now my bait sense are tingling. How?

>>149074224
People commit suicide over smaller things than nuking an innocent town into oblivion for a few hundred caps.
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>>149073507
>please point to me in the lore that says that Vault Dwellers are not trained in any weapons whatsoever in any vault
Not him, but in Vault 101 there absolutely was not any. The sheer fuckery they had to go through to make a BB gun is evidence of that fact. Similarly, Vault 8 residents couldn't own weapons. Vault 34 seems to be the only exception to the rule and it was heavily monitored. So monitored that the nofuns crowd caused the funs crowd to coup and leave the Vault.
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>>149074353
>BB gun
>to a child who is not a security guard
>made by two scientists, also not security guards
>Overseer has a pistol
>guards have pistol
>guards have batons
>guards use pistols on two residents trying to leave cafeteria

There ya go.
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>>149074278
Yes, if they did those things intentionally and/or are mentally ill.
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>>149074476
And how am I not mentally ill?
I got shot in the head, buried, dug up, then had my brain put back in my head (who knows how correctly considering neurosurgeons aren't exactly a thing here)
I've been lobotomized and turned into something not completely human, and even then I just found out that when I -was- Human I still wasn't far from a monster.
So... Why not?
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>>149074448
>using a 10mm pistol on targets and untrained vault dwellers is the same as vault dwellers being trained in firearms, let alone trained enough to take on muties and power armor clad soldiers or even raiders
Strawman af desu
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>>149074601
>being this desperate to roleplay a mentally ill person so you can justify anticlimactically committing suicide
Okay, I give up.
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>>149074674
>raiders and super mutants are suddenly more "trained" than Vault Dwellers
wew lad, lay off the Jet, try some mentats.
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>>149074674
>pistols aren't really firearms
>accused others of building straw man

wew
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>>149074718
>this desperate to justify the Courier not being a mentally ill wreck by the end of the entire story arc.
Seriously, how? Unless you're a moustache-twirling, nothing-personal-kid esque ninja katana wielding waifu, this story cannot end any other way.
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>>149074748
Different anon, but this is probably at least plausible. Raiders and SMs have experience gunning down wastelanders and surviving tough circumstances - vault dwellers really don't.
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>>149074718
It's not desperation. It's realism.
The psychological toll on the mind after knowing what transpired at the Divide has different effects on different people.
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>>149074748
>suddenly
Muties are literally trained straight from mutation to be walking killing machines... that the whole point of the FEV. Raiders, similarly, are trained and have a shit ton of fighting experience, albeit little organization. A fresh out of the vault vault dweller standing a chance against any of these on first contact is specious at best.

>>149074831
>implying I implied that
I literally just implied that shooting a fucking twinkie dink pistol at paper targets isn't being combat trained because it fucking isn't.
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>>149074890
>experience = training
wew
I heard them Iraqi army lads had a lot of experience compared to the Americans who showed up on their doorstep.
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>watching interview with Josh Sawyer
>he gets really, really, really vague when talking about Bethesda's Fallouts

Imagine being Josh in an interview and having to be all like "damn, Todd, you fuckin' fine, all nice with your shit games and lack of choices. I would totally have fun with your games, both my character and the real me." when all he really wants to do is program another choice and consequence. Like seriously imagine having to be Josh and not only sit in that chair while Todd flaunts his disgusting games in front of everyone, the favourable shadows and bullshots barely concealing the bad textures, and just sit there, hour after hour, while he 'perfected' that game. Not only having to tolerate his smug fucking visage but his haughty attitude as everyone in there tells him IT JUST WORKS and DAMN, FALLOUT 4 LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who will have to sit and program with that fucking gamebryo engine with types of bugs you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been programming nothing but a healthy diet of choices and consequences and grey morals for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Wisconsin. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his dimpled forehead as he smiles suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit and revel in his "most ambitious game ever, the next generation of open-world gaming", the game he worked so hard for in the previous years. And then the interviewer asks another question, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Josh. You're not going to lose your future Fallout opportunity over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>149074890
>Shake down a few dirt farmers
>Now an elite soldier in the raider army
Okay
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>>149075013
Guess it's a good thing Muties don't show up until atleast an hour or two into the playthrough, right?
Also, sauce on how they're "Trained"?
Don't seem to show much tactical thinking beyond the general "MAIMKILLBURN" typical of Khorne.
>raiders
Are literally just humans with an addiction to drugs and bloodlust.
Those two things don't contribute to a tactical mind.
That's why you had a few elite raiders with names and a bunch of junkies without names.
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>>149075013
which is why there is a level system

experience is the best teacher
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>>149074278
Kantian ethics: the only morally good quality is goodwill/good intentions, and the only morally good decisions are those which rely on pure reason, completely disregarding empirical factors, to determine what course of action is in accordance with the principle of goodwill.

This is formed into a categorical imperative, the second form of which goes: "Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, never merely as a means to an end, but always at the same time as an end [in and of itself]."

Now killing yourself means that you end your own existence, usually to escape a situation which you would not wish to live in, using your own person as means to this end, but certainly not as its own end or purpose: after all, the purpose of suicide is destruction of a person, which is fundamentally incompatible with the idea of valuing a person by elevating it to the status of being respected as its own purpose or end.
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>>149075506
So, a set of ethical codes that I have no way of knowing are why I can't commit suicide?
Nice game.
Also
>implying everyone has the same morals/ethics
isn't that what the Karma system was for?
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>>149075018
>compared to the Americans who showed up on their doorstep
Except unarmed dwellers who have lived in comfort their whole lives aren't comparable to american soldiers, you fuckwad.
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>>149075506
>Not Dark Kantian
>Categorical Imperative: Murder

I am compelled to do evil, regardless of its utility.
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>>149075625
>that I have no way of knowing
Incorrect. These are principles of reason, thus given to all beings capable of reason.

>>149075875
That is what Kant would call "diabolical", to do evil for its own sake.
Had he lived in modern times, I am certain he would have called it "edgy".
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>>149075938
then why did I need to ask how it was wrong instead of automatically knowing how, seeing how it's given to "all beings of reason".?
Or is that one of those "I decide who's a being of reason" kinda deals?

>>149075804
Americans live in pretty vault-tier comfort compared to your average Iraqi tho?
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>>149075415
>Guess it's a good thing Muties don't show up until atleast an hour or two into the playthrough
Wut. You run into muties the second you step foot into DC which is done 15 minutes into the game if you do no side quests.

>>149075415
>Also, sauce on how they're "Trained"?
Lily and Marcus both talk about their training while in Unity. The East Coast Mutants are less intelligent, but show similar signs of organization and manufacture their own weapons according to the wiki. To call them untrained is pretty blatantly false.

>>149075418
You can run into mass groups of raiders at level one. You can run into and easily take down Super Mutants without doing a single quest in Megaton.
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>>149074448

You would think that, if people are actively trained for handling guns, giving a BB gun to a kid would not be an issue at all.

After all, I believe gun activists encourage giving kids training in guns. And this one kid in the Vault can't even own a BB gun legitimately.
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>>149075804
>Vault living is comfortable
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>>149076118
Well, your complaint was that you had no way of knowing.

My response: you did have that way. Every being capable of basic reasoning - that which makes us distinct from other animals - has that way.
However, in the context of this discussion bringing up the solution then and there was the fastest option.
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>>149076131
>wiki
Is unreliable.

>if you ignore all sidequests
And the main quests, apparently.

>>149076218
>you would think
I wouldn't think that many people have a say in it except the Overseer.
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>>149076131
>You can run into mass groups of raiders at level one. You can run into and easily take down Super Mutants without doing a single quest in Megaton.

If you survive, you are more experienced, yes?
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>>149076284
>smoke jet
Given that it's an inhaler, don't you technically vape jet?
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>>149076338
>no way of knowing
Because I don't.
>all beings of reason
What is a being of reason?
If I bring you a featherless chicken will you throw me out?

So, why doesn't the Kantian Ethics stop every suicide?
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>>149075013

Don't even bother, anon, it's not worth your time.
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>>149076468
Given that it's fermented cow shit in an inhalant you can lace it in some cigaweed and smoke it.
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>>149076131
>>149075415
>>149076339
>Is unreliable
It's literally cited from in game terminal entries and holotapes. Fuck off.

>And the main quests, apparently
Wut.

>Go to megaton
>talk to moriarty
>he tips you off your dad went to DC
>head to DC and get attacked by mutires first thing

>>149076447
Indeed, but a no-experience fuckboy, with little to no range time, straight from a cushy vault isn't going to survive 10 raiders or a fucking super mutant in combat. This isn't the fucking Courier who has untold years of experience. This isn't fucking Nate who's a combat veteran.
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>>149075938
Had Kant lived in modern times, I doubt he could handle the edge
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>>149076652
>fuck off
No.
>and the main quests
Oh, so this is assuming you can cheese your way through the conversation, I see.

>with little to no range time
You still haven't proven he wasn't trained as a Security Guard, or that Security Guards did not undergo weapon training, anon.
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>>149075048

Your comment made me YouTube Jamie Lee Curtis' striptease scene in True Lies.
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>>149076339

>I wouldn't think that many people have a say in it except the Overseer.

And you would think the Overseer would encourage proper training of its Vault Dwellers. And since training involves handling guns, he/she would want its Dwellers to become acquaintanced with firearms, even the toy ones.

But you wouldn't know shit about it, would you? Fact is, Butch couldn't even get rid of a few fucking Radroaches. Same with Vault 101's "trained" security team.
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>>149076471
1) I reiterate: you do, provided you use reason. Contemplate initially: what is universally morally good without exception.
2) Because I am not fond of repeating myself - any being capable of asking itself that.
3) Simple. We are beings of reason, but not beings of pure reason. We are still guided by our animalistic natures, that is to say, heteronomous, and must actively choose to obey pure reason - it is not natural to us, though the mind strives to make it so.
In choosing to obey something other than the course laid out for us by the laws of nature - biology, specifically - we are free, and have chosen an ethical system of autonomy: autonomy meaning "making our own laws".

>>149076776
/pol/ would give him an aneurysm.
Not sure about /his/, though.
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>>149076652
>Indeed, but a no-experience fuckboy, with little to no range time, straight from a cushy vault isn't going to survive 10 raiders or a fucking super mutant in combat.
>I've never played any game except Fallout:New Vegas the post.jpg
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>>149076339
>>149077016

"Trained" Security team. Murdered by a fucking 19-year old.

gg Todd
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>>149076786
>Oh, so this is assuming you can cheese your way through the conversation, I see
>playing the game is cheesing your way through conversation
Are you trying to piss me off by shucking and jiving legitimate criticisms and the reality of FO3 or are you seriously this in denial?

>You still haven't proven he wasn't trained as a Security Guard, or that Security Guards did not undergo weapon training, anon
Actually, I already addressed how even if he WAS a security guard, it wouldn't matter in the slightest. I'll restate my argument here because I can tell you're retarded though: Shooting paper targets or unarmed, untrained vault dwellers isn't combat training.

>>149077025
>implying the first thing you come up against in FO1 is raiders
>implying it isn't radscorps followed by geckos
Raider random encounter is an absolute death sentence for a fresh playthrough of FO1 without cheating and you know it. Don't even try to pull that card.
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>>149075048
I know, Josh, I feel your pain.
Someone needs to up the edge and assassinate Todd in a blaze of neckbeardish glory.
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Why do bethesda games have such intense lighting? look at this wall. it's glowing
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>>149077016
>and you would think
Not really, the Overseer has been shown to be pretty incompetent by the time you leave, if coming back didn't solve it for you.

>>149077021
>what is universally morally good
You're asking the courier to contemplate things he has no real knowledge of.
How am I supposed to know this obscure branch of philosophy, and why does it imply that all things think along the same, railroad path?

>>149077231
Requires either a speech check, a bribe, or a sidequest.
>shooting paper targets isn't combat training
and roughing out wastelanders for chems isn't combat training.
smashing a skull into a rock so you can eat the brains is not combat training.
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>>149077315
>shooting at things that actually shoot back isn't combat training
What the fuck am I reading? I guess you are just trolling. We're done here.
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>>149076468
>doesn't even smoke jet

>>149076652
>Indeed, but a no-experience fuckboy, with little to no range time, straight from a cushy vault isn't going to survive 10 raiders or a fucking super mutant in combat.

Has experience. Fought vicious vault gang members and clubbed their way out past an armed vault security team.

Picking off some raider that's on the nod is hardly an achievement. Neither is putting holes in an overgrown mutant retard.

Hell, France has been a police state for the last year and that did not stop some inbred Tunisian faggot muslim from reaching for the high score with a truck. You seem to deify combat ability, when history shows that it comes naturally to a wide variety of people.
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>>149077025

Joke's on you, you can actually talk your way through the Raiders (who happen to be Vault dwellers themselves).

>>149077315

>Not really, the Overseer has been shown to be pretty incompetent by the time you leave

Incompetent, how?
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>>149077315
There are two fundamentally different branches of acquisition of knowledge.
Empirical and rational.
Now empirical knowledge is gained by trial and error, by observation.
Rational knowledge is gained simply by thinking about something. Just you and your brain. No training needed, just a lot of patience and willingness to systematically eradicate veery insecurity and fuck-up.

>>149077442
I once injected two whole rockets, though.
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>>149077021
>/pol/ would give him an aneurysm.

Just /pol/?
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>>149077231
>implying the first thing you come up against in FO3 is raiders
Wrong again, it's radroaches.

You're not getting out of this one, FO1 protagonist was a 16 year old fresh out of a vault who wiped out the KHANS within one week of leaving the vault.
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>>149077532
Every insecurity and fuck up, I would like to add, except typographic errors.
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>>149077408
>everything shoots back
So how do you explain the constant killings that happen IRL by people with no combat training?
If a gangbanger shoots and kills a marine, does that mean the marine wasn't well trained enough? Does that mean the gangbanger has been combat trained better?


>>149077463
Other than the reasons you've mentioned?
Well, he let James in, he let James out, he killed Jonas, he let the Vault go out of control, and he refused to admit it when he was wrong.


>>149077532
So, once again, things I have no real knowledge of.
This is why /hum/ fags need to go back to their containment board.
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>>149077624
I suppose not.

>>149077708
Define "real" knowledge.
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>>149077806
Define "real".
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>>149077708

>Other than the reasons you've mentioned?

>the security team is incompetent because it was trained poorly
>not because this is a poorly written story and the player has to be able to kill them

come on, nigga
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>>149077463
You can but Tandi and Darion (the only survivor of the original massacre) say that Vault Boy just showed up and killed everyone without saying a word. The Khans were supposed to be a massive raider faction with reach all the way to the Hub.
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>>149077874
Well, it seems you just -want- to believe the story was written badly instead of looking at a reasonable explanation.
That's okay tho, been there, done that.
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>>149077852
Assuming it's the same anon here, I was not the one using the phrase "real knowledge"; as such the burden is on you.
If you seek to convince me of your point - and if you don't, why are we having this discussion - please elucidate.
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>>149073215
That's not a bug Anon.
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>>149074865
>had no way of knowing what the package would do until after the fact, so it's already not my fault
>even if the Courier had refused to transport it for some other reason, someone else would have and the Divide still would have been destroyed with or without the Courier's involvement
Only an idiot would blame himself for this situation.
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>>149077974

Because your "reasonable explanation" is head-canon based on the idea that every Vault Dweller is trained to survive in a Wasteland, even though Vault 101 was never supposed to open.

Moreover, how much fucking training do you need to aim a gun at a Radroach and shoot it?
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>>149077986
Real - as in actual, working knowledge of.
Things the Courier does not have actual, working knowledge of
- Philosophy
- Humanities
- General History

Actual - working knowledge in this case means that he read it in a pre-war book, and knows how to apply it to the Wasteland in a non-idiotic fashion.


>>149078073
But it wouldn't be my fault? That's kind of the big deal here.


>>149078350
>incompetent security force is reasonable
>incompetent security force suddenly means everyone can survive the wasteland
lol, what?
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>>149078350
>how much fucking training do you need to aim a gun at a Radroach and shoot it?

less than what you need to hit a larger target
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>>149078350
Vault 13 was never supposed to open either.
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>>149078435
It WOULDN'T be your fault, because you had NO WAY of knowing what the consequences would be, NO REASON to believe it was anything more than a routine delivery. You might feel bad about it, you might feel guilty, but you'd have to already be knee-deep in clinical depression to have such a massive overreaction as killing yourself over an accident you couldn't have done anything to prevent.
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>>149078682
>you'd have to be knee-deep in clinical depression
I did the entire story arc of NV plus the DLCs.
The Courier is mentally broken.
He has no reason to live anymore.
Everything he touches turns to shit.

>killing yourself is a massive overreaction for dooming an entire city to nuclear fire because you wanted a few hundred caps
Okay mcedgerson.
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>>149078435
But that's the point. Previous knowledge is, by definition, not required for any aprioric information.
You don't need to know jack shit about philosophy to develop a Kantian imperative. Maybe training in formal logic helps to take it as far as he did, but the most basic roots of the concept existed thousands of years back: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Kant simply thought further than that and replaced the arbitrary and subjective "would" with an objective criterion deriving from reason itself.
Now if it derives from reason itself that means you require no special training to develop it. It's not a science.
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You now remember blasting people with Lincoln's Repeater when Fallout 3 first came out.
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>>149078435
Why would it be your fault?
Why does everything have to be about you?
Sometimes, shitty things happen and we just have to deal with it as best we can and try not to let them happen again.
As one of the few people aware of it you should feel obligated to live as long as you can, to spread the word and try to prevent something like it happening again.
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>>149078831
>The Courier is mentally broken.
>He has no reason to live anymore.
You're talking your personal head-canon personality for the Courier, I'm talking how a normal person would think of it.

>Okay mcedgerson.
How is it edgy to not kill yourself over an accident? If you were driving down the road in a snowstorm and your car spun out and hit and killed someone, yes it would be tragic, you would feel bad about it, but it would also be an ACCIDENT. By your logic you'd need to go and commit seppuku for it.
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>>149079196

but why
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>>149078883
So why do people still kill themselves if every single one of them is able to think up these obscure ethics?
It doesn't make sense, also to apply "don't do to others what you don't want them to do to you" to a suicide situation. Am I the "other"?
Who's the "you"?

>>149079014
>why would it be your fault
Because I'm the reason it happened? No me, no happening.
>why does everything have to be about you
Kinda the point of the game lad, I mean CL was perfectly willing to cuck themselves til I finished up REPCONN.
>try not to let them happen again
Sorry mate, can't just "not let any more nukes get fired".
Fallout don't work like that.
>live as long as you can
That's selfish.

>>149079075
>my courier is a normal person!
Wow, so you never touched the game at all?

>lol launched some nukes at a city
>totally comparable to a car crash XD
are you legitly underage?
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>>149077143
>"Trained" Security team. Murdered by a fucking 19-year old.
>gg Todd

Trained security team that passes time playing poker and drinking beer.
You're lucky they didn't kill themselves with pistol explosions from poorly maintained equipment.
They get their exercise by beating vault dwellers with batons.
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>>149079385
Why don't you go accidentally launch some nukes at a city and then kill yourself so I won't have to listen to your stupid fucking arguments anymore? If you're baiting me you fucking succeeded because I'm fucking furious at how retarded you are.
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>>149077143
>>149079406
doesnt take much effort to kill cops with a gun if you watch the news
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>>149079385
I already explained the first part, and as for the second I also already mentioned that this basic principle, while the starting point for any system of ethics currently in use - from utilitarianism to Kantian - needs a little more work to be universally applicable.
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>>149079646
>needs more work
yep, can definitely see that.

>>149079578
Why don't you give me an actual argument instead of getting autistically mad that Obsidian didn't give me a legitimate roleplay option for a character full of regret?
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>>149079824
Which is where the individual's ability to reason comes in.
From the most basic recognition of the ethically right - the golden rule described - to the categorical imperative which is far less vulnerable it's a long way, but one that can be taken without training provided you have some time to reflect and, I suppose, a pressing interest in such matters.
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>>149080027
Would make sense if the Courier was anything approaching mentally stable by the end of the Arc.
I don't see how he could be. Literally too much.
Even FO3 let you kill yourself. (albeit temporarily)
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>>149079406
maybe they didn't want to shoot a kid

21 foot rule
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>>149080143
now I kind of wish you could lock yourself in the DM vault after choosing not to.
It's fitting.
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>>149080143
That, now, is empirical and subjective.
Opinions such as this one vary from person to person, and while I accept that it is plausible to think of the Courier as such I respectfully decline to share this view.
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>>149079385
>wow I feel bad about this thing I did, it was a mistake
>better make sure nobody else knows about so they can make the same mistake I did

It's the exact opposite of selfish, you're dedicating your life to making sure nobody feels as terrible as you do about the thing you did, it's not "I have to live because I value my life" it's "If living through this hell can save even one person from feeling this way, it's worth it."
Killing yourself over some sad feels is infinitely more selfish, you're not helping anyone but yourself that way.
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>>149063534
Metal does more damage
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>>149079824

Why dont you roleplay and walk your character off a cliff.

You could even delete your save afterwards just to be "authentic"
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>>149080313
That's fine, but unless we have some Todd-tier Science! XD stuff, I'm not too sure how anybody could handle that kind of mental pressure in such a short amount of time.
Like, how do you not have PTSD or any form of mental illness after all that? Honestly?

>>149080331
Except how can I do that? "Don't take courier packages to places."?
How can I make sure nobody else mistakenly delivers a nuclear detonator?

>>149080459
Sadly, because of the expiriments and changes I've gone through in the pursuit of knowledge and revenge, heights are unable to kill me. The only way is to remove (or destroy) the cybernetics keeping my legs pumping and my heart thumping.
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>>149080627
Meh, people in the Wasteland have been through worse and not killed themselves yet.
There's Dave, for one, you know. The guy in Vault 13.
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>>149080627
>Like, how do you not have PTSD or any form of mental illness after all that? Honestly?

Don't be a beta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkEdB87yGA
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>>149080807
>Dave has nuked a city, gotten shot in the head, had his head put back together by a non-neurosurgeon who had no idea what he was doing, had many vital organs removed and replaced by cybernetics, was abducted, put in an explosive collar and made to fight ghosts and zombies, travelled to Zion, killed the Burning Man, killed the last survivor of his nuclear strike, then returned to burn all of Vegas to a nice cinder under Yes Man.

Really? He started out as an idealist and ended up being the guy he originally killed?

>>149080963
>resorting to memes
And that's how I know you don't have an argument.
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>anon claims FO3 and FO4 are like TES
>anon is right
>discussion devolves into "can a vault dweller survive into the wasteland"
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>>149081052
I ain't responsible for your playstyle, buddy.
'sides, did you read his biography? Man's the epitome of SOL.
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>>149081052
it's not a meme

some people take care of business and sleep like a baby

not everyone is in touch with their feminine side like you
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>>149081216
>being this mad your post got lost
It's okay.

>>149081274
>aint responsible for my playstyle
What does this have to do with anything?
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>House
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're referring to as House, is in fact, Families/House, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Families plus House. House is not an empire unto himself, but rather another integral component of a fully functioning city-state made useful by the Vegas families, associated interests, and vital city assets comprising a full city-state as exemplified by New Vegas.

Many factions users interact with the Vegas families every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the Vegas families which are widely powerful today are often called House, and many of their customers are not aware that it is basically the Vegas casinos, run by the Vegas families.

There really is a House, and Vegas is under his control, but he is just a part of the families in charge. House is the leader: the man in the system that allocates Vegas' resources to the other families that run Vegas. The leader is an essential part of Vegas, but useless by himself; he can only function in the context of a fully functioning city-state. House is normally used in combination with the Vegas families: the whole city is basically the families with House added, or Families/House. All the so-called House assets are really assets of Families/House!
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>>149081346
>bait

>>149081374
>no mention of house until you showed up
???
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>>149081371
>killed the Burning Man
Playstyle. Not story-required.
>killed the last survivor of his nuclear strike
Not even the last survivor, also not story-required.
>yes man ending as specified
Not even possible in that precise way, also not story-required.

At this point I am fairly certain you are fishing.
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>>149081503
replying to 3 year old copypasta
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>>149081585
>entire conversation has been about my playstyle leading my Courier to commit suicide
>anon uses "lol ur playstyle" as if the entire conversation hasn't been about that

???


>>149081652
>being here for three years
Jesus. I'm lucky to post for a week before RL chomps back into my schedule.
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>>149081781
Your fault for generalising so hard that that got lost.
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>>149081876
>generalizing so hard that that got lost
what is "that" that got lost?
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xth for finding love and happiness in the harsh wasteland
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>>149081959
Reading comprehension, apparently.
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>>149081959

Your point
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>>149082151
>>149082178
so, which one was it?
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>>149081503
>bait
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>>149082114
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>>149082301
avatars are against the rules anon.
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>>149082252

I'm a different person than the guy you've been arguing with brodinski.

I'd say by your response...both!
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>>149082403
>post ponies
>get banned

the system works
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What's a good special for Fallout 1 and 2?
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>>149082490
So it's canonical that the courier kills himself?
Cool.
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Did anyone else do this first thing?

I made like 50 of them at the BOS airport
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>>149059410
>there is nothing concrete that suggests Synths are fertile/sterile
No, but it is heavily implied and makes perfect sense why they wouldn't allow them to breed even without FEV sterilization.
>which they planned on using to interbreed with wastelanders for their experiments
Nice headcanon brah, but if that were to happen it would be an isolated case not their main line of synths.
I see no reason why the institute would let synths breed in the first place when they have an assembly line.
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>>149082734
For your particular playstyle, maybe.
But your playstyle ain't canon, so fuck off.
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>>149082883
>muh canon
I hope you're ready for Todd's next ride.
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>>149082608
Depends on whether or not you take gifted or not, and what kind of weapons you want to use. INT is really important, CHA really isn't in fallout 1, in 2 it limits your companions. Per is important for hitting shit. STR isn't important outside of strength requirements unless you're a unarmed or melee character.

Just post a SPECIAL and we can tell you if its good.
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Jesus Christ how the fuck can people stand vanilla Survival?

>Getting killed by random buggy objects flying at Mach 2
>CTDs
>Molotovs out of nowhere
>Missiles out of nowhere
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>>149082734

I know it may be hard to understand but you are actually having a full conversation with yourself.

Unfortunately that makes you retarded. Please contact your nearest caretaker and they will make you a cup of chocolate milk to drown your sorrows in.
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I'm a faggot with no idea how to convert skyrim armors to fallout 4. Tried using the guide and just can't get it to work. I'm asking if someone can convert this armor with bodyslide.
http://www.kawaiimods.com/armors/minous-killbill-outfit-bodyslide
would be very greatful yes yes
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>>149083146
Thanks for the confirmation, anon.
Finally, the courier can do the right thing instead of being a satire.
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>>149082608
Fallout 2?

Gifted plus either Small Frame if you want that extra point or Jinxed if not.

STR 4, you'll get +4 from Enclave armour which you can obtain as early as level 2, another 1 from a memory module, and the final +1 through Gain.
PER 8, gets to 9 with mem module and 10 with Gain.
END 4/5, it's not really that useful, you can Gain anyway.
CHA 7, goes 8 with memory module, 9 with Gain and 10 with Mirrored Shades.
INT 8, goes 9 with memory module and 10 with Gain.
AGL 9, goes 10 with Gain.
LCK 7, goes 9 from the Hubologist in the NCR (may want to save-scum), 10 with Gain.

So long as you always wear your advanced power armor you'll have 9 or 10 in eery relevant attribute soon enough.
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Fellas, how can I clear the first cave with Alice in Fallout 1.5?
The big radscorpion fucks me up every time.
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>>149083229
>being a satire

What did he mean by this?
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>>149081371

Not me, but we are right. It goes to show how dumbfuck the Fallout fanbase has become when it justifies Bethesda's awful gamemaking tehcniques.
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>>149072572
>>149073029

>Til sapphire backstory in skyrim was that she was a cum bucket after her family was murdered, when Delvin was fooled and left them, and she became a cum bucket during her early/mid teens for atleast a week, before she killed the bandits and escaped

>Til Sydney in Fo3 is 4 years older than the L, and she had even to make sexual favors to survive, after her mother was raped and killed by raiders when she had young, until she started with the Merc and Relic Hunting Business

>Cass is a whore due to daddy issues, and she is the only one who cares about you during all NV DLC's quests and MQ


>>149083151

BUFF he's yours
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>Using the first dolphin porn beta still
>It doesn't work with my game anymore.
>CTD when I enter the vault.
>mfw my Piper is in there and I can't get her out

Rest in piss Piper.
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Why aren't there more skeletons in Fallout 4?
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>>149084630
>prid 00002f1f
>moveto player
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>>149084630
c-can i have a link to the mod?
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>>149085034
Why isn't there a bone shipment? I mean there is not even a ref for one.
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>>149085412
It's called being diligent when looting super mutant areas.
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>>149085034
BACK IN YOUR CAGE
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>Will there ever be another fallout game created by obsidian?

>The Prophecies of Joshtradamus cannot see all of the possible paths of the future. ~*

What does this fucking emoji mean?
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Updated the hair to make it look less like raider trash and fixed the face up a bit. What ya think of my "full metal bitch?"
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>>149084329
>he doesn't know they were talking about NV
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>>149046761
consider suicide
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>>149085180
https://kat.cr/fallout-4-vault-tec-workshop-beta-3-t12939145.html
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>>149087036
looks like a female benedict cumberbatch
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>>149087660
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>>149087036
Got a problem with Raider Trash cunt?
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>"You can't fast travel when enemies are nearby"
>Nearest enemy is a mile away and not even aware of my presence
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>>149082748
Make unattractive hobo women you mean?
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>>149085103
>00002f1f
Just 2f1f you dipshit. You only have to type from the first non-zero character onward.
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>>149090058
>being this upset over literally nothing
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>>149090250
Just giving you a helpful tip to save you a few keystrokes bro
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>>149088504
>"You can't fast travel when enemies are nearby"
>It's a fucking radstag.
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>>149090018
women with LEGS faggot
>with LEGS

>>149090830
>he doesn't play survival
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>>149090830
>Oh look a radstag, I'll just leave it alone
>Companion runs off to kill it
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>>149090316
>>149090058

>types 10x the amount saved twice, to say don't type zeros

let the baby have his bottle
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>>149087036
>the dog faced mannequin in the back is better in every way
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>>149090927
>He doesn't have tons of food in survival
>>
Is a full auto playthrough viable for FO4? The damage decrease on the receivers is a little bit of a turnoff, but I've never used auto weapons in FO4 and people keep saying they're really good.
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>>149091702
they are average verging on bad
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>>149091807
But... so are the semi-auto ones... is there no winning?
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>>149091702
automatic weapons really shine with a good legendary modifier. else, you're wasting 10x as much ammo to do less damage
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New thread? Im contracting autism...
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>>149091053
I don't type my own posts, I hired a kid from Venezuela who does it for me.
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>>149091926
no they aren't

they are literally better in every way
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>>149091702
>full auto
no
Automatic weapons are what you should consider when you start to hit around level 10-12.

For example, around this level I begin to find that without Gun Nut (something I don't invest in til later) most of your pipe weapons are no longer viable in their semi-auto form shooting out .38 caliber peas.
Sure, a sneak attack can kill a single raider, but when it's taking an entire mag to kill a slightly tougher one, it's time to consider automatic weapons.
Cons - Ammo consumption.
Use smaller calibers, don't fall for the assault rifle meme.
Pistols and SMGs should be your only automatic weapons.
Pros - Fuck bulletsponges, fills VATS faster (assuming all shots hit), generally better in close quarters (shine particularly against hordes of Ferals)

Tl ; dr If you want an automatic weapon it should be a secondary weapon like a pistol that you can afford to run out of ammo on.
Focusing on automatic weapons before you can produce your own ammo is basically asking to be a melee build.
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>>149092126
Until you hit a reasonable level and suddenly you can't kill anything...
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>>149092590
yeah maybe if you forget rifleman somehow
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>>149091976
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>>149091973
Me too, anon.
>>149093930
>>149093930
>>149093930
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>KICK ASS TORRENTS GOT SIZED BY DE GOVMENT!

So Megaupload is gone, the Pirate Bay is a fraction of what it once was, and Kick Ass is fucking kill.

Whats left?

Will we have to go back t using ISO hunt?
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>>149093971
>early
why
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>>149094286
Because posts like yours ensure we hit the limit anyway.

'sides, it's not 150 pages early like I'm used to where I'm from.
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>>149054141
>>149053986

What hairstyle mod is this?
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>>149094035
>kat is actually gone
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>>149094487
its still up with other domains, just the main domain is gone
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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