/twg/ - Total War General

Allow me to explain why vampire's are shit.

They have no true soul.

They are inexorably bound to Nagash.

The vast majority are slaves to the hungry beast within themselves, even as they claim to be masters of others.

The vampire is the remains of a person. Some fragments of whet made that person great great might remain, but it is no more than fragments.

>>148917581
Live forever, your argument is shit.

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>>148917676
>being a vampire
you need to go back

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Wight King-sama is the real MVP

>>148917676

>living forever
>good in warhammer

It's only good if you win. And guess what, you won't.

If the Chaos Gods win, you're done.

If Nagash wins, he'll eventually end you at some point, either because you displeased him or because you started on the path to rivaling him.

Either way, you end up a slave or toy to a power greater than yourself by far.

>>148917581
Most vampires control their bloodthirst as well as mortals handle their need for food and drink.

There is literally no change to your personality or traits beyond what you allow to change because of your newfound power.

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To destroy the Empire and claim his rightful throne, Mannfred has to save the Empire from these disgusting Chaos shits.

>>148918176
By your logic you should just lay down and die then, what's the point of doing anything if the world ends?
>Metafags are this retarded.

>>148918407
>running graveguard in your armies

Literally loling@you right now, cuck tier infantry

>>148918291

Necromancy is born of Dark Magic.

Dark Magic is born of Chaos.

Ultimately, there's a beast in every sentient undead. While transcendent beings like Nagash, Arkhan and Vlad subjugate that monster with ease, the average vampire is in for an eternity of struggle against it's base nature.

What mods are everyone using?

What are good mods

What is the best magic mod?

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>>148918407
>that army comp
>that turn number

w e w l a d

>>148918586
what's wrong with graveguards? I think they're pretty alwight

>>148918586

You need infantry, and in the campaign, there's no reason not to run graveguard.

Unless you're going full death star.

>as there is evidence to suggest the universe is a simulation, then if it is true that means the simulation needs someone to create it. Which leads to the conclusion that whoever that is, is God. So God is an underpaid PHD student.

>I MUST PLAY THE VIDEOGAMES
>NO ANON, YOU ARE THE VIDEOGAMES
>AND THEN ANON WAS GIVEN A 0/10 ON COSMIC /v/

>>148918946
so does that mean if humanity doesn't perform well enough God gets his funding cut and has to shut us down?

>>148918679
He's just being a faggot

>>148917676
End up going mad/depressed unless you can have some reason to live, Vlad got his waifu and emperor ambitions. Neferata on the other hand just mopes around silver peak.

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Which one of you is this?

>>148919297
Shit, I'm only 25 and I'm already depressed and possibly going mad

>>148919442
Exactly, imagine being around for 2025 years.

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So what are you guys going to be listening to when the beastmen dlc drops?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmePghg9nCY

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>>148918602
That's speculation that is. That fact that most vampires use their longevity to become consummate warriors or skilled necromancers or even both shows they are resilient to the degrading effects of Dark Magic.

This is noticeable when compared with human necromancers, who are as a rule insane and/or deranged.

>>148919594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkrLs9nYjKk

God fucking dammit why does Chaos have to make a beeline for my damn faction every single time. It's anti-fun. Also dealing with public order as vamps is infuriating there is almost no reason to expand, you'll never afford the upkeep to keep armies in your territories.

>>148919706

It's not speculation, it's fact.

Every Varghulf is a failed Vampire Lord. Every Vargheist, a common vampire who chose the wrong side.

Vampire's are beasts wrapped in human form, and only a very few truly master that beast rather than simply suppress it.

Do necromancer regen auras stack?
Also, that staff that trades HP for winds of magic is really good for VC

>>148919084
>the end of days is actually when god finally graduates with his doctorate

>>148919594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk

Racking kills, sacking vills

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>>148919594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUTatLX-oyc

I cannot wait to fight, defeat and REMOVE Beastmen with glorious faith, steel and gunpowder in the name of Serb- uhh... I mean the Empire!

>>148919340
You did

>>148919907
>the AI
>not autistically attacking the player in every TW game even if they're supposed to be doing something else

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>>148919594
>OOOO THEY SEND YOU DOWN TO WAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MskiSCUaJ4U

>>148920059
Every varghulf is a vampire who was locked in a crypt for multiple centuries, and every vargheist is a vampire who willingly submitted to the savage part of itself and who probably shouldn't have been turned in the first place.

>>148920059
The stakes are surely higher for vampires, because they are naturally more powerful beings. If a human had the same magical energy within him, he would surely become a gruesome beast by giving into his own primal desires.

Varghulfs and Vargheists are the exception when it comes to vampires, and many see them as grotesque.

>>148920970
Yea I lost the game but took down the majority of the chaos faction with me in spite. There needs to be a mod that makes the factions follow their damn objectives, I wasn't even giving a shit about chaos as vamps and all they did was raze no sack.

>>148917581
>Some fragments of whet made that person great great might remain
>great great

I'm onto your anti-Vampiric schemes, ratman.

>>148922005
Pshh.. foiled again... stupid man-thing

Clan Pestilens sends its regards.. heh

The 100mb update change anything?

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POOPOO PEEPE 9 DAYS TILL BEASTMEN DLC

>>148922751
>beastmen have frog units
Reeeeeeee

>>148921446
You got the names backwards m8

>>148922396
Oh shit, we have edgy OC donut steel shaven in here.

>>148923758
they are called reddit rats for a reason by the tabletop community...

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>>148923967
No-no, it's mostly you calling them that

>butthurt man-thing

>>148923650
Lizardmen replaced a Slann army in the earlier editions. You used to be able to run an entire army of Pepes.

>>148923650
>tfw no Jabberslythe

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confession time /twg/??

>been a fan since medieval 2
>I own all the Total Wars
>I've only finished 1 campaign ever
>I play for 10-15 turns, steamroll for a bit quit

wtf is wrong with me /twg/?

>>148924576
kinda the same, have ADHD, find it very hard to finish a campaing, did finish Austrias in charlemange because removing kebeab is fun and righteous

>>148921793
In Rome 1 as the Seleucids the Scythians forced war on me just because we technically bordered each other. It must have taken them tend turns to march from the north Caspian sea down to the caucasus to attack my settlements.

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>>148924576
if you enjoy it, nothing

>>148924576
>started playing with Rome 1
>own all titles from Rome 1 on
>I've finished 3 campaigns before TWW, not a single long victory
>I play for ~50 turns then restart because it gets boring

I totally understand you

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>>148924401
The smug must have been too much

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Can someone explain the after life for some of the specific factions? Like I heard if you die in the warhammer universe youre potentially fucked for eternity.

>>148925530
>playing chaos as gayprince
>force myself to keep going for over 12 hours in order to finish a long campaign on normal
>don't have the stomach to finish any more long campaigns

>>148924576
Are you talking about TWW? Or just all total war games? Because if you mean all games then you fucking wasted your money you moron.

>>148925687
I want a pepe army

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Yeah more sweet narcosis... yeah more sweet narcosis...

>playing as Chaos
>this fucking army regen
Why is it SO FUCKING SLOW

>>148926017
If you have no soul; you get to die and stay dead forever

If you have a soul; you get to enjoy Chaos fucking you forever (unless PLOT saves you)

>>148928623
re-recruit, everything else is useless

>>148924576
>I've only finished 1 campaign ever
Really not surprising

There is no reason to play without challenge, and the number 1 problem with all TW games is that not a single one of them has ever achieved good difficulty pacing. The late game has always been 'You are too strong to be stopped and now its 100 turns of moping up shit to win'. More often than not the first 50 turns are the best part of a TW game, with a good turn or two happening once you get [insert fun OP unit here] for a battle which is mainly why you keep playing past the 50 turn mark anyway.

>>148926017
pray 2 morr n he will help u

>>148928914
Just found a mod that takes it to 20% replenishment rate and lets you encamp on 0% movement

That should fix it

>based CA did 1 thing right with TWW by letting us mod it

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>>148928623
How will replenishment for Beastmen work?
Will it be as fucking slow as for Warriors of Chaos?

Can't wait to permanently move in ambush stance and hide while being encamped >:^)

>>148929172
Well considering all they've done is copied Chaos/Orc and pasted Beastmen over the top, you can expect it to be as slow as Chaos.

But that always hidden thing is going to be gamebreakingly strong

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>>148929172
going by Logic, Beastmen inhabit most of the forests of the Old World and replenishment should be a lot better than Chaos Warriors

then again it's CA we are talking about, the fucks who couldn't be assed to sort out their launcher issues for years

>>148918176
Being Nagashes sex slave wouldn't be so bad. I mean it would get weird when he asks you to dress like his brother but it beats having your soul flayed.

>>148920903
Poor Heinrich. His little buddy is missing.

>>148929906
I don't remember nagash having a brother

I also don't remember liches having penises

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Cute Balthasar Gelt Mod WHEN

>>148930891
Get your gay fucking waifushit and anime away from Western fantasy you fucking sick fuck

>>148930891
>Alchemist turns himself into Gold
>Alchemist turns himself into loli

Clearly Gelt has much to learn.

>>148930891
Right, straight to the more important point

>tfw no cute Damsel Mod
>tfw no cute Vampire-chan Mod

I know there is nothing can be done with the models, but the right textures alone can do wonders.

Only campaign left for me is Greenskins.
Are they fun?
Constantly fighting other orks and dwarfs sounds a little monotonous.

>>148918425
Because it doesn't matter what happens after you die so long as your life was worthwhile.

>>148933049
Wait for the Beastmen then you have something else to fight down south

>>148924401
Fuck, /r/ing bad pun 3rd edition Slann

>>148931716
Why would you turn yourself into gold out of all metals?

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>tfw reddit rat and proud

>>148930891
Cute beastmen when.

>>148934628
9 days

>red fangs pull teef natchas into war against me
>they ignore everything just to attack me
>purple dwarfs declare on me
>turn 15 Im back to black crag only
>shouldve picked grimgor
how do I become good at diplomacy?

>>148935015

Same thing happens to me.
Whenever I pick Ahzag first, everyone wants my dick. Yet when I'm Grimgor, while everyone declares war on my usually, they don't tend to focus on my stuff as much.

Not to mention Ahzag is fucking shit until Skullmuncha.

>tfw still getting 1v1'd with my rank 6 Ahzag against a rank 1 Orc general

>>148935160
Considering the time sink needed to level him to 25 to get Skullmuncha as well it's pretty ridiculous.

>>148929028
>Letting us mod it
If you call that trash ‘mod support’ you are the reason modding communities are going to shit

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Post sad stories and campaigns that went wrong.

>Playing orcs.
>Raiding & Pillaging the Empire from the south
>Chaos invades.
>Together we slapchop the Empire into the fucking dirt like chummy pals.
>Turns out we are in fact not chummy pals
>Archaon, Kolek, and Sigvald's doomstacks mash into my two stacks and 1 waaagh.
>Balance of power states its about a 50%
>That auto resolve button is looking rather tempting about now * I suck ass as Orcs *
>Decide to man the fuck up and play it out
>Lose
>Save and quit the campaign right then and there.
>Still have not opened it up to this day.
>MFW

https://soundcloud.com/aldenchambers/great-moves-keep-it-up

Beastmen showcase today right?

>>148936531
Yep, gameplay walkthrough video on their youtube.

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So, I didn't realize this until now, about 37 hours into the game because I had never fought Norscans until now, but do Chaos armies just not break unless you break everyone all at once?

I just fought my first battle against the Skaelings. I had an Empire army of about 1000 against the Skaeling's 1400 army, and the balance of power bar was really heavily tilted in my favor because I had Great Cannons and Lvl 3 Swordsmen, Spearmen+Shields, and Halberdiers. So I decided, why the hell not, let's fight these bastards and see how they play.

And oh my fucking god I got raped. There were so many Marauder Cavalry and Warhounds I felt compelled to make a box with my cannons in the center and just hold the line against them while waiting for their warlord to come into range and get murdered by my Lord. My Lord also had a Wailing Sword, and one of my swordsmen had a scary banner so it should've been easy to break them. After a very scary charge right through my box into my cannons I killed the Norscan warlord and I thought
>Oh good, they've all broken except for one shitty cavalry unit raining arrows down on me. I'll mop this up and be moving on.
Sure, half my swordsmen were dead, half my spearmen were dead, all my Pistoliers had fled from the battle, I'd lost one Great Cannon to their commander, and my Lord was almost dead, but things seemed to be on the up-and-up.

But the routing Chaos units came back 3 fucking times. They chewed up everything, routed most of my melee units, and broke my cannons. I ended up having my crossbowmen and handgonners punching marauders to death and choking on their own blood. I almost lost the entire battle because they just kept coming back. It ended up being a Pyrrhic Victory because I'd lost 750 troops and only killed 850 of theirs.

How do you beat Norscans without cavalry if they can keep recovering from a rout so long as one unit remains unwavered?

>>148937048
Also, I got Mousillon as a vassal immediately thereafter because I somehow got dragged into their war with a Bretonnian power and I'd become so scarily powerful they were afraid of me or something.

As a vassal, can they rebel against me or break the vassal treaty on their own? The VC cancelled the non-aggression pact I had with them on their own.

>>148936510
>Playing Dwarves
>Killing Orcs up near Mount Gunbad
>Zhufbar snipes Grom Peak away
>Karak Kadrin loses two settlements
>Zhufbar steals them before I can colonize them
>Barak Varr controls Iron Peak and I saved it from a Greenskin Waagh
>Now I can't put Black Crag province together because Barak Varr has taken all of the western Badlands under their control and Karak Azul took all the eastern Badlands under their control
>I'm a rump Dwarf state consisting only of Silver Road, the Karak Eight Peaks province, and bits of the Black Crag province and Mount Gunbad province.
I can't see a way out of this, except with military alliances slowly turning into confederation. I just don't have the heart to go on.

>>148918626
I'm still running Dwarf warriors, quarrelers, and miners on turn 124. They're all level 3 or higher. Why would I replace them with anything else or anything more expensive?

>>148919594
https://youtu.be/cxwLPBdIXlk

Is it possible to unite the Empire before Chaos invades?

>>148937514

Does that include uniting them by force?

>>148937619
Yes. I'm finding it takes me a long time to even conquer the nearby provinces when I need to deal with the economy unless I loot everything, then I get rebels.

>>148937857

I can "unite" most of them and still stay afloat with money and rebellions.
Except Kislev.

is there dwarf or vampire faction with different roster like how greenskins and empire have their savage versions?

>>148937935
FUCK KISLEV
They won't make a trade agreement, won't take a defensive alliance, can't do anything with them.

>>148937935
Kislev never been an actual part of the Empire tho

>>148938117
Mousillon vampires?

>>148938117
>savage empire

nigga what

>>148931181
Your insecurity is sad

>>148933591
>beastmen army spends all its time hiding, waiting to ambush or running away using beastpaths
>"oi dese boyz won't stand still and foight"

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

Is razing all the Norscan settlements a feasible strategy?

>>148938861
I think he means either Kislev or Bretonnia

why does it look like empire will get all three of the freelc heroes?
Since theyre also adding in more lores of magic wont that mean empire also gets more wizards with the lores?

>>148939098
Yes

>>148939319
But I'm burning an entire army group up there when I really need them down south to conquer more Imperial provinces. I only got Nordland, Ostland, Middenland, The Wasteland, and the Averheim one. And it's Turn 70.

Can Chaos armies recover from routing even with their leader killed?

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>>148933026
Need a Remilia von Carstein mod desu

>>148939671
anime can fuck off

>>148939312
yes, the empire has a wizard for every lore, asides from lore of the wild

Hey guys haven't been here in a while, are beastmen worth the DLC price?

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>>148919594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL0YWTPDMUI

>>148940052
They are not out yet

>>148940052

No

>>148940052
we don't know, but gameplay today ( around 2 or 3 PM British time )

>>148940052
>asking other people if something subjective is worth the price
>when it's not even out

are minicampaigns for X faction only or can you choose sides?

Is the Blood and Gore DLC worth the price, or should I just torrent it?

>>148940052
No one knows, wait until at least friday when afaik they show their first livestream

>>148940325
It's today senpai

>>148940315
Depends on the campaign, most of the time you could choose between all the factions but the Beastmen one and R1:Alexander is main faction only

>>148940318
For me it was worth it.

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>>148940318
It's not as good as Attila's blood DLC, but way better than Rome II or Shogun 2

>>148940397
Today is a campaign walkthrough video like
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKv4A0GA3Qw

>>148940325
gameplay in 3 hours mate

>medieval stuff in modern TW
>AoC
>1212

But muh plate. Mail is boring.

>>148940318
Torrent if possible

>Game with "flaming attacks"
>No crisped goblins
Disapointing as fuck, the limbless skellingtons are nice tho

Is there a bug involving morale with some armies?

>>148940052
Very unlikely, but to be seen

>>148940521
see this >>148940486
The Call of the Beastmen trailer links to their youtube channel and not twitch

Repeater handguns when?

>>148940450
? Attila's blut und gore is the same as Rome 2's except with vomiting that practically never shows up in game anyway.

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>>148940450
Shogun 2 B&G was great, way over the top but damn great!

>>148941557
ever zoomed in on your tired units helmut?

>>148939671
This desu. I want to help her become empress.

Beastmen in 2 hours?

>>148941557
Ever zoomed in to seasick transported units?

>>148939849
You can fuck off.

>>148941381
?

Outriders already carries them

>>148941772
Shogun 2 in general was going for the fantastical look anyway
Have you ever had a Storm sea battle, shit looks insane

>>148940593
But there's no plate armor either on AoC, anon

>>148938359
>>148939149
Kislev and Mousillon don't have unique rosters, and Bretonnia isn't a subfaction of the Empire.

>>148938117
Savage orcs are the only subrace with a unique roster.

>>148939849

Not even anime

>>148943056
>fighting naval battles

they were removed in TWWH for a very good reason.

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>>148919594
https://youtu.be/ez90azx4LKk objectively best theme for the beastmen

>>148931716
>turns himself into gold
Waaaaait a minute. I thought Gelt had a golden mask or something and you're saying he's all gold? How the fuck does he even function?

>>148943685
It's fantasy.

>>148943685
It's unclear if it's a mask or not.

>>148943685
His mask is just a mask. He is disfigured or gold behind it.

>>148943685
If we had blood and burning he would be balthasar melt

>>148943996
If I had repeating digits he would be balthasar get

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>>148943996

>>148939671
Who is this?

>red fangs wants peace
>yeah sure I got purple and blue dwarfs to deal with
>cyan dwarfs declare war, pulled in by red fangs
okay?

>>148943996
If he were a beastman, he would be Balthasar Pelt.

>>148944203
Are you playing red humans? Or rotting black/red humans? Blue dwarfs? Green orcs?
Evil black men?

>>148943507
Yeah, good reason:

They should rebuild their naval battle system for it to be worthy of Warhammer. R2-Attila naval are pathetic compared to glorious FoTS

>>148943996
If he's all tattoed and body painted with woad then he'll be Balthasar Kelt

>>148944683
>kelt
amerifat please shoot yourself.

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>>148943996
>>148944090


do you mean WAAAGHtasar Gelt?

>>148944854
Rare

>>148944894
pepe

>>148941557
Rome II didn't have burned bodies and the beheaded heads disappeared after 3 seconds

Gameplay when?

>>148944563
>Evil black men?
Hol' up

>>148945697
litteraly one hour

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>tfw no Corpse Cart to make zombies super killy

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>>148946581
>Corpse Cart starts drifting on the battlefield
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RiLctuuXs4 starts playing

>>148944594
>implying
FotS naval battles aren't ancient-era or even medieval era. They're napoleonic or victorian-tier.

Anyone else encounter the raise dead always showing 0 casualties as VC? I've had battles with 2000+ casualties, surely that should be enough to trigger something?

I heard doing the introduction fixes it but I don't want to start over.

>>148943685

He didn't, he just fucked up his face.

>>148943237
That was my point

>>148946757

>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCiDuy4mrWU

>>148947073
not him but midnight love makes more sense because night and vampires and shit

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Just rolling for not huns

Any good Youtube channel to learn the basics of TW? Bought Warhammer but can't play for a week.

>>148948164

https://www.youtube.com/user/THFEProductions

>>148948164
This guys done some decent stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwVftHdWAdHNOJ-PMquSZMVVAGWIq2TVQ

WHERE IS THE STREAM CA???

>>148948658
it will be on the youtube channel in 9 minutes

>>148948658
>inb4 no stream
It will be a campaign walkthrough video

>>148948751
Youtube? Surprising, but anyway thank you Anon!

>>148948751
What is the link to their stream? Not familiar with youtube-streams.

>>148948923
it's not a stream, just a gameplay video

stream will be around friday

Will CA ever add back Town or Bridge battles?
New battle types when?
Underground is kind of lame.

>>148948923

https://www.youtube.com/user/thecreativeassembly

I assume it'll appear their

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>>148949076
>I assume it'll appear their

...nothin

IT WAS A RUSE

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE VIDEO CA

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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BEASTMEN RAGE

SMELLS LIKE BETRAYAL

I will never trust /twg/ again.

Are you guys 12 years old?
Just have a bit of patience!

>>148949798
POO POO PEE PEE
THEY SAID 2 PM BST

>>148949736
The day and time is from the fucking Call of the Beastmen trailer you colossal faggot

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>mfw Derren was in charge of uploading and only just uploaded it now so it takes a couple hours longer to render

I really fucking hate how one of the Vamp victory conditions is to destroy the Empire. Mannfred is such a faggot, Vlad wouldn't have stood for this bullshit.

>can't reclaim rightful Stirland clay
>can't take up mantle of a proper elector count
>can't utterly btfo chaos and nordling snow bunny scum together

>>148949850
Maybe they _f_o_r_g_o_t_?

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>>148949965

>I have to go to bed in an hour and a half

>>148929172
>How will replenishment for Beastmen work?
rape option after battle

>>148949965
>Darren accidentally uploaded the trailers for every DLC up to and including tomb kings

>>148950127
I guess it will be 'eat captives' just like the Greenskins have it?

>>148950127
>Horde growth increases after defiling a settlement
Hmmm.

>>148949969
What do you expect from Mannfed? He's autistic. If he was a school child he would wear a leather trench coat and talk like an anime character to other kids.

http://youtu.be/TvSKt-_Ybgk

Anti vampire Dwarf Star

>>148943685

He just fucked up his face.

Some people think that he's actually gold behind the mask as well, and while this could be true, it's unlikely.

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>>148950318
REEEEE FUCK OFF, WE WANT BEASTMEN

>>148950318
stop shilling your video you fuck

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WHERE'S MY BEASTMAN GAMEPLAY??

I bet Darren is responsible for this.

Let's talk about why Chaos is shit.

>Tzeentch doesn't give a flying fuck about you and will betray you whenever he thinks it's funny
>Nurgle cares about you, so he turns you into a sack of diseases
>Slaanesh is just waiting for you to die so that he/she can use you soul as a new toy
>Khorne only cares for what you offer, and his blessings turns 99% of his followers into mindless berserkers if they don't die beforehand
>le meme rat
>le Malalameme

>it will be out today just not at 14:00
thank you Grace

Praise Hashut!

>>148950713

Nurgle is objectively the best.

>>148950280
>Psh... you are talking to an Elector Count… cattle

>>148950280
He would also say he is better than his favourite anime character.

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>>148950280
Vote Remilia von Carstein!

>>148950713
>>le Malalameme
what?

also you forgot based Hashut

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>>148950774
yes

>>148950586
I find them interesting desu.

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4tl0c9/wasnt_there_supposed_to_be_a_beastmen_gameplay/d5i3nqy

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4tl0c9/wasnt_there_supposed_to_be_a_beastmen_gameplay/d5i3nqy

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4tl0c9/wasnt_there_supposed_to_be_a_beastmen_gameplay/d5i3nqy

Half an hour.

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>>148950713
Horned Rat a best!

Also Beastmen
>maybe in like 35 minutes or so
>maybe
thanks Grace

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>>148950774
>>148950891

>chaos dawi

>>148951021
they're so fucking incompetent

>>148950875

There used to be a Chaos God of Anti-Chaos.

He spent all his time fucking up the plans of the Chaos Gods, to represent that nature of Chaos turning against itself. He got phased out over time.

>>148951062
I'm not sure how you think that. All they said was that it would be today. The community are the ones getting it confused with Friday's stream.

>>148950318
>the dwarf star is really enjoyable if you enjoyed the vampire death star

how can you enjoy playin like this? there's no manouvering it's just you clicking abilities.

I guess it's the LOL/DOTA cancer community ruining TW multiplayer it seems. I'm glad I stick to singleplayer

>>148950875

Everyone forgets Hashut.

>>148951089
I thought the problem with Malal was that some guy who used to work for GW owned the concept/name and then fucked off after a while, so GW couldn't use it anymore.

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>>148946829

Its not about the era. Its about the features. Compared to R2-Attila, older TW3 Warscape naval game like FoTS, S2, NTW, and ETW has:

>Wind Direction
>Ship Wind Direction Cooficient (sailing ship speed depends on the direction of the wind relative to the ship)
>Capturable Ship post-battle
>Surrendered Ship still floats in battle (not spontaneously combust like in R2/Attila, hence capturable)
>Multi-type sailors per ship (consisted of ranged-capable marines, melee-only seamen, engine-serving guncrews, 1 captain + commodore/admiral if flagship)
>Each crew type are positioned in particular places in the ship, and patrols/wanders on deck (R2/Attila marines stay put, only walks if boarding or being boarded. Commanders are placed randomly instead at the bridge/helm)
>Gradual sink-damage threshold, ship started to list and take water depending on the place and degree of damage taken (R2/Attila just spontaneously sink or burst aflame)
>Ship can be demasted making them unable to catch wind, and blown apart when their magazine/boiler are hit.
>7 artillery engine type per ship with varying placement. R2/Attila only have 2 max.
>Ship does not magnetically stick to each other with magic velcro, need to be secured with grappling hooks first (arguably R2 system better, more gameplay-friendly for boarding attack era naval battles. S2 naval are damn finicky about boarding)

>>148951121
they said in the call of the beastmen video there will be gameplay at 2PM BST today

>>148950860

>Play Nagash
>Turn Remilia into your bitch

SUPREME LORD OF THE UNDEAD WHEN

>>148947884
rerolling, that just was awful
more like Im awful

>>148950875

>hashut

Who?

Oh, you mean that Greater Daemon fooling the Chaos Dwarves.

>>148951391
dont have slavs

>>148951552
>fooling
>saved their race and helped them become the dominant race in their region
yeah whata lousy deal they got

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>>148951274
WOW NOOOOO

>>148951238
I guess you're right about that. More shit R2 killed.

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>>148951720

Bone Daddy's coming for you.

enough with this shit, where the fuck is the video!!

>>148951238
important rome 2/attila naval features
>prettier water
>its on fire
>ramming speed

>>148951720
No? Wouldn't she enjoy the boning?

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>>148951720

Prepare your anus, Remilia.

I'm coming in dry.

>>148952102
>>148951959

Man, Nagash's Undead aesthetic is better than the shitty vamps.

None of that predatory blood shit. Just the inevitable march of the dead.

>>148952046
All the other ones should've stayed too desu
Ramming and catching on fire are good ut that doesn't mean surrendered ships, gradual sinking, wind direction, and crew types should've stayed.

whats the lore reason for vampires not shooting bows?
Like are they just too dumb or too proud of magics to try technology?

>>148951274
>>148951720
>>148951959
>>148952102
Are 2hu vamps even undead?

I suppose it probably wouldn't matter though if they practice necromancy.

>>148952248
Isn't it because bows are harder to make skeletors use

>>148950860
Stirlander here. I would vote for her.

>>148952248

Because a vampire with a bow isn't that much more effective than a human with a bow, since there's a limit to how much strength even the heaviest compound bow can transfer without being entirely inaccurate.

A vampire with a sword is an unholy terror. Many vampires can use bows and guns, being from a noble background, but don't because it's an inferior choice to to using their swords or magic.

if I pick up the blood dlc, will I be able to continue my coop match with my friend who doesn't have it?

>>148952326
they could use crossbows then
or javelins

I've never played a Total War game before, but I'm really interested in Warhammer.

Would I be completely lost if I just started with it?

>>148952441

Yes, but only you will see the blood etc.

>>148952028
5 minutes. Check their twitter rather than complaining on a mongolian throat singing forum.

>>148952463

Crossbows are also pretty hard for skeletors.

Only high-tier undead are smart enough to use range weapons, and said undead are so strong that they're more effective in melee.

Nagash is the exception, since he can mass-bind enough of a person's former memories to their body that they can use ranged weapons even as low-tier skeletors.

>>148952618
you'd be lost no matter what so just start with the title that interests you. all the better if it's the newest one.

>>148952618
Nah. Pretty easy to learn. I recommend staying below hard your first time. The turtorial/introduction for TWW is pretty good

>>148952618
Probably not, it's pretty streamlined.
The only thing you really need to know is that being flanked/surrounded is a bad thing, ranged units can't shoot if your own troops are blocking them from hitting the enemy, and hammer/anvil will carry you through most engagements (hold up enemy units with infantry, charge them in the back with a fast moving high damage dealer like cavalry)

>>148937335

Man the fuck up and slay the trespessehs.

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>>148952712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98

>>148952618

Gotrek and Felix is a good place to start, though a lot of the lore of the earlier books is outdated.

The Nagash Books are also good, and Malus Darkblade is a fun read, though it's localized to an area of the world that most books never touch on.

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>>148952287
>Are 2hu vamps even undead?

Yes. They're one of the strongest youkai types by far, but hampered by vampire weaknesses. Remilia we know is weakened by the sun, can't cross running water, and is effected by beans like an oni (probably this could be filed under the 'religious symbol' weakness).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFW54sq5H8s

IT'S UP

>>148952248
Wasn't it because Vampire Count's necromancy just not as good as Tomb Kings?

I'm no fa/tg/uy, but I've heard that raised dead get -DEX debuff, Am I correct? So fluff-wise VC Zombies and Skeletons aren't dexterous enough to aim accurately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFW54sq5H8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFW54sq5H8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFW54sq5H8s

IT'S HERE

>>148937335

Start fighting or confederating?

When Kislev went nuts and took over Nordland and most of Middenland, I had to declare war on them. You've got the option of confederating.

>>148952885
Don't forget rolling the carpet
Put shock infantry on the ends of your line and spearmen or heavy swords in the middle, as soon as you shatter the very sides the middle can be eaten at leisure.

>>148952958
Reimu in Total War when?

>>148953017
>>148953058
>Eye for an Eye has it's own faction select screen.
>With only one faction.

Literally built for mods.

>>148952618
Not really, it's honestly a lot easier to get into than Attila. Just make sure to read all the tool tips the pop out on things and play the tutorial.

If you get stuck or run into problems you can always ask here.

>>148952958
Oh, and she has to sleep in a coffin.

She claims she sleeps in a bed, which is true. In bed. In a coffin ON that bed.

>>148952885
I think greenskin ranged units will happily shoot their allies
but thats all theyre good for

>>148952216
There's fire and ramming too on older games, just there are no fire percentage meter and douse fire command.

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>Strongest Youkai types

NOT STRONG ENOUGH

>>148953117

>Reimu in Total War when?

Nippon expansion.
With Shogun 2 re-used assets.

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>internet problems
>steam offline
>start warhammies and open up the mod manager to adjust mod selection
>mod manager auto-deletes all mods
>have to download them again

Wew laddy da dii, who at CA thought this was a brilliant idea

>>148952712
>>148952909
Is this a throatsinging thread?

Quick, post more throatsinging

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3encA6KYQUI

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Hey you guys know what could really cool? tw:empire soundscripts for eu4-

>>148952909
>>148953502
>there are """people""" who don't pray to the Eternal Sky every day

>>148953763
TENGRI GUIDES MY STEPS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u_3WMPQzdM

>>148953289
No bullying, Nagash!

Gameplay stream moves to Thursday rather than Friday.

Lore of Beasts tomorrow then fellow understanders, get hyped.

Is it just me or do dorf warriors seem to melt a bit too easily. Im running a campaign as them and my dwarf warriors cant seem to 1v1 an orc boyz unit. Add some goblin archers to the mix and my army seems to melt away. Even high tier units seem a bit week for an impenetrable shield wall I think

>>148953763
>>148953859
Huun Huur Tu is best throat singing,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bDntRWfL70

>>148953058
wow it's shit.

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the beastmens roster is tiny, they even had to take chaos units to bolster it.

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>>148954346

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>>148953058

Beastmen look OP as fuck. No infighting attrition sounds unstoppable.

>>148954486
every faction except chaos has this.

>>148954369
It's not really tiny, it's just there are too many variants and not enough unique stuff.

>>148954528

not every faction is a horde

>>148954584
That makes it even harder for them.

>>148954451
>[URGE TO HAMMER AND ANVIL INTENSIFIES]

>>148954528

Other factions have territory they need to defend

>>148954103
Dwarf Warriors shouldn't really be losing to orc boyz. The greenskin archers might be doing more damage than it seems, but quarellers should out skirmish any greenskin ranged unit without issue. Ironbreakers and Longbeards is where you start getting the really inpenetrable shield line.

>>148954486
>>148954528

Shouldn't it be the opposite?
WoC shouldn't have attrition since they (barely) have some degree of self-control.
The Beastmen are literal unruly dindus.

>>148953058
Why didn't they change the fightiness meter, it just looks lazy

>>148954670

How is being a horde that can roll around with 5 armies next to each other 24/7 hard? The infighting stopping you from stacking armies was the only thing making hordes hard.

so the beastie boi horde will gobble your one undefended town, poop in 100 points of chaos and then run off to hide in the nearby forest
maybe ambush followers and then repeat pooping more chaos until everything collapses?

Do mongols even throatsing?

Isn't it specifically a tuvan thing?

The big superpower beastmen have is not having to deal with the tedium and attrition of sacking a province and then razing it. That alone makes the horde gameplay much more fun.

>>148954794
>How is being a horde that can roll around with 5 armies next to each other 24/7 hard?

It's not, but you can do that with every other faction but Chaos too.

Hordes have the added disadvantage of no cities on top of it.

>>148953202
Ramming? I don't remember that.

>>148953289
Reimu > literally everything Warhammer can possibly throw at her.

>>148954451
I'd let her envelop my battle line if you know what I mean...

>>148954828
they both do, parts of china as well.

>>148954875
However you dont get to experience the joys of conquering the world
you just burn down everything

>>148954901

Like I said other factions need to worry about garrisoning and defending territory. Hordes don't,

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>>148954949
>>148954691
no bully

>>148954918
Kotetsu (former CSS Stonewall) and L'Ocean Class in FoTS can ram.

>>148954918

>reimu > literally everything stopped reading there

Kek.

>Nagash wakes up
>sees vampire
>melts vampire's brains

>>148954901
>no cities
>disadvantage
U fucking wot m8? There's no territory to defend, so blobbing armies together is much more viable.

>>148955067
Reimu is invincible. As in, actually, that's her power.

>>148955027
>garrisoning

Garrisons do that.

>defending territory
>Being on the defensive
>Ever.

>>148955081
You also have fuck all money, so you can't sustain many armies.

>>148954918

She's Undead.

Nagash wins by default.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5CxK78cGac

Do other styles even compare?

>>148955134

Hordes drown in money, just need to constantly raid and sack

>>148955142
>Reimu
>undead
Literally fucking what mate

>AI controlled Khazrak
>will probably make a straight b-line to Reikland
>by turn 10
>with a full stack and a brayherd

Oh boy can't wait to stop playing Empire and just play as the superior Dawi. Especially since the Orcs will be preoccupied in the South now with Beastmen.

>>148955113

Nagash controls anything that's dead/undead.

>>148955238
Reimu isn't undead. She's a shrine maiden.

>>148955134
A chaos I got almost 1M doing long victory. I had so much money I didn't know what to do with it all.

>>148953058
>100 chaos corruption
Good fucking lord

>>148955113

So? Doesn't stop Nagash from binding her to his will, or even stealing that invincibility.

>>148919594
ingame OST.

>>148955324
You think Reimu is undead for some reason, but she isn't. The vampire is someone else entirely.
Reimu's ability is to float away from reality and become invincible and intangible while dishing out damage on her own. You can't control undead that isn't real.

>>148954918

>reimu > literally everything warhammer can throw at her

Divine powers don't work in Sylvania.

>>148955190
She's a zombie.

It's an old meme, sir, but it checks out.

>>148954451
My throng stands ready if you know what I mean

>>148955489
Any modders in here?
I got a question concerning shields

>>148953058

Yep it's campaign gameplay alright

>>148955536
>using memes during a pseudo-powerlevel debate
t. Abrams

>>148955523
Chaos gods are technically divine in nature no?

>>148955550
What game? What question about shields?

>>148955489

Oh, right. Was reading Reimu as Remilia.

Eh, Nagash might not be able to win, but an Old One could. They can just stop flat out stop supernatural shit from happening.

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HOLY FUCK +100 CHAOS CORRUPTION FROM THE BEASTMEN BUILDING

>>148955634
Total Warhammer.
Trying to get the Chaos Warriors to hold their shields upright, like the Brettonian Spearmen-at-Arms.

Coming from Dwarfs to play Empire is fucking jarring. Holy shit the lanklets suck early on.

Awful start, check.
Shit starting units for Karl, check.
Annoying asshole neighbors, check.
>some how more annoying than Orcs
Shit economy, check.
Hilariously awful research style, check.
Surprisingly expensive line infantry who route if a zombie farts too loud, check.

My favorite thing about Empire is how Gelt, who sucks, starts off with units that are infinitely more useful early on than some shit Halberds and some overpriced garbage cavalry. Handgunners is about the only good thing apart from Franz himself in his start and even then lanklets are tall shitbirds so you can only snipe enemy lords before the dumb feather caps on your infantry obstruct their firing lines.

10/10, nice faction faggots.

t. Thorgrim Grudgebearer

>>148955621

And they couldn't do much in Sylvania either, even when most of the barrier that stopped divine magic working was gone.

Despite the fact that they were literally physically manifesting across the world, they had to get Skaven to blow up the Black Pyramid.