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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, July 19th:
711 – Umayyad conquest of Hispania: Battle of Guadalete: Umayyad forces under Tariq ibn Ziyad defeat the Visigoths led by King Roderic.
998 – Arab–Byzantine wars: Battle of Apamea: Fatimids defeat a Byzantine army near Apamea.
1864 – Taiping Rebellion: Third Battle of Nanking: The Qing dynasty finally defeats the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom.
1870 – Franco-Prussian War: France declares war on Prussia.
1940 – Field Marshal Ceremony: First occasion in World War II where Hitler appointed field marshals due to military achievements.


>News
HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

CK2 DD 13 - Warrior Women
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/crusader-kings-2-dd-13-pagans-advisors-and-warrior-women.955632/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.2 - 09/07/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

Old Thread >>148836526
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Incoming severe steamgroup butthurt.
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Proper, non-autismal OP.
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It's a race against the danish
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>Spain and Portugal are poor, corrupt, socialist leaning shitholes
>All their former American colonies are poor, corrupt, socialist leaning shitholes

Really makes you think...
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Post meme music to play Kaiserreich as Willy's Empire.
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>>148914287
Why did you fuck up the colors, your shit looks so jpeg
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Yes this was the much better way to go about this
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There is currently a jihad for galcia, and most of Fatimid's neighbors are Sunni and not Shia, I think I can slowly destroy them.
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>>148914391
>Look at me
>LOOK at me
>I am the spanish now
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>>148914623
>Cross inside Star of David
This is NOT kosher, goyim...
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Even doing the proto-scramble in a smarter way I still won't be able to take the sahara unless I'm a sp
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>>148914501

So there's the Seven Republics background anon asked for. Any other nations?
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Will I be okay?
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>>148915670
Why does the Inca empire still exist?
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>>148915695
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Ok, serious EU4 question. Now that we have the territory mechanic, is it even blobbing any more as long as you dont make them into states? I mean the whole point of territory is that its not directly under your control, like a vassal, but without the problems vassals have.
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>>148914084
>>148914287

Again, can you assholes please fix this? If you are gonna put in a Gary Grigsby game, then why the fuck would you put in War in the East when War in the Pacific is: 1) far more popular and 2) greater strategic and tactical depth?
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Tell me lads why I shouldn't build Cuirassers instead of infantry
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Will Vicky 3 every come out, lads?
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>>148916208
Shit scaling
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>>148916263
At this point, would you even want it to come out?
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>>148916086
It's been a while since i've played EU4, is this something different than the estates thing? Like nobles, burghers and clergy and shit?
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The first war of many.
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>>148916305
Of course, even if Paradox fucks it up militancy among accepted pops (reddit/paradox forums) will get so high there will be a revolution.
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>>148915584
Prestige and the Canary Islands, lad
There's some decision to get Western Sahara if you own the Canary Islands IIRC
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>>148916615
autism
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>>148916615
this, vic 2 is reddit's favorite game
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29th for America has less culture than bumfuck Mexico and you all know it regardless of how ignorant you all are.
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Shouldn't Burgundy be a formable nation in HPM?
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>>148916915
>29th
wew
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>>148916915
t. Pablo Escobar Ramon Esquela Ramirez
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>>148917187
t. Jamal O'Hooligan Smith de Jesús
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>>148916915
So what's your definition of culture?
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>>148916915
A culture of what, poverty, emigration, drug sales, and that one holiday about dead people?
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>>148917441
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>>148917561
WE WUZ CANNIBALS N SHEIT
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>>148917486
Don't forget beheadings and child slave labor
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>>148917561
>aztecs
>one of many barbaric tribes
>completely wiped off the face of the map by spanish conquerors
>enslaved
>all traces of culture destroyed
>former territories turned into spanish ranches/missions
>force converted to chrisitanity
>colonized some more
>made to adopt european standards/traditions
>adopt spanish language
>list can go on and on

Yah, culture.
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>>148917787
Literally all of that but one works for the Irish.
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>>148915723
Spanish (here, the marriage was between Portugal and Castille instead of Aragon) didn't really colonize heavily in that direction unlike our world. Also, received help at various times from other European powers to harass the Spanish, or others. Also, Qingqiu was getting them technologically and such.

Also, the Spanish are giving them promises and concessions to help in the war against Gran Colombia.

They're not Westernized yet.
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stellaris?
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>>148918024
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>>148917951
>Irish
>culture
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>>148916307
You now have to core things twice. Once for a claim, then again after making it a key part of your country called a state. Both at half price of course. Non states are at 75% autonomy, ike say Holland taking over the asian islands before, or Portugal entering Africa. I figure if they never really had control of that territory, just puppeted it really, would it be blobbing if you, say, took over your whole trade zone and puppeted it to keep the trade for yourself? Or taking part of north Africa to keep the pirates at bay? Or set up the holy land but kept them under your control?
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So why is stellaris not allowed here but distant worlds is? They are both mediocre games.
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>>148918278
memers and spammers subverted the collective consciousness to defend the interests of the steamgruppe old guard
vicky 2 is the only game allowed here
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>>148918278
This is the Grand Strategy General
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>>148916270
???`
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>>148918512
as the game progresses infantry becomes stronger with tech and eventually stronger than cuirassiers which stay the same for the whole game.
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>annex the UK in 1936
>attack the US, France, Belgium, and Netherlands
>they join the Comintern
>annex them in 1937 then attack Poland who also joins Comintern
>Soviets push me back a few provinces
>they have 90 FUCKING DIVISIONS (half their total divisions) stationed in the city of Danzig for absolutely no reason because this game is a broken pile of shit
>encircle and eliminate them
>the rest of the war is my divisions traveling at almost full speed
>push back their front to the Urals and annex them in 1938

Is HoI3 any good
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>>148918512
you know
the scale of shit
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>>148918620
So just delete them and rebuild your army in 1900.
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>>148918494
So why do you have War in the East listed when it has the least strategy of any of the Gary Grigsby War in the ... games?

War in the Pacific is a far better choice for the OP pic
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>>148918630

Well, it's better than hoi4
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>>148914084
Why does the infopic say not to post Germanyblobs? What kind of faggot doesn't like a good ol' GroßDeutches Reich every now and again?
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>>148918994
because it's babbies first campaign goal.

Everyone has done it and no one thinks it's interesting.
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>>148919113
nah, babbies first campaign goal was to reconquer the lands of the byzantine empire (aka Roman Empire)
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>>148918735
>Rebuilding your army of hardened veterans with shit eating doughboys.
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>>148919202
Mine was the creation of South Africa in Eu4, and the Superiority of Ireland in CK2, and cozy Korea in V2. Trader Finland in HOI3.
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>>148919113
I think it's interesting.
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>>148919507
>caring about unit experience in Vicky
I bet you disband understaffed regiments too
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How do I buy Alaska my lads the event saying Russia was selling popped up years ago but there's no decision or anything.
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Got lucky as fuck and the specific county of the Jewish holy site on the south arabian peninsula rebelled and I immediately scooped it up.

Dunno how long I can keep it before Seljuk powerbombs my anus.
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Why is Japan so boring in EU4? Who is someone fun to play in asia?
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>>148920772
South east asia can be pretty interesting.

Waiting for china to explode and defending yourself from assholes surrounding you.
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>>148918475
t. mana pro
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I'm on Linux and EU4's font looks very blurry.

Has anyone else encountered this problem?
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>>148915219
someone do a mega campaign with this
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>>148920445
You have to buy it then and there.
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>>148921015
There was no options for the event and Russia still owns Alaska.

Will he try again? How much cash do you need?
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>you will never live to see such a beauty
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
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Why is this allowed?
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>>148918494
>distant worlds
>eu3
>eu4
>ck2
>hearts of arrows 4
>king of dragon pass
>sengoku
>sengoku rance
>superpower
>all those other meme titles there
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>>148921895
>not in high demand
>price is still rising
ah epic
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>>148921892
not grob enough
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>>148921892
nice civ 5 map casual
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>>148922178
>All these slavs ruling themselves

disgraceful
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Does anyone have a link to that Victoria 2 mememod that guy was toting around last thread?
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>>148919113
I've literally never done a Germany campaign
I love seeing grobgermanies here
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Okay guys, I'm playing the WWI mod for HOY3, I'll be posting screenshots soon.
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Is HOI4 playable yet? I don't mean playable meaning it's perfect. I just don't want to invest time into a game to find Germany stacking all their divisions on a single border...

Any recent patches? Or are the fucks still on vacation?
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>>148923596
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Declared holy war for sinai while they were at war with byzantium and dealing with a christian crusade for jerusalem

Currently building a temple in sinai for the holy site.

One step closer to true victory.

Is it possible to change ethnicity via years of breeding with ethnic jews?
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>>148923719
They are still on vacation. They will be back in two weeks, and another patch will probably take another month, so probably September at the earliest.
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>>148924307
Culture comes from who raised and educated them.
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>>148923719
>Is HOI4 playable yet
It will never be playable even with 2 years of patching and DLC and modding. You may as well go back to Steeloria 2.
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>>148924148
The war started in July, and I am already pushing past Poland and into Russia itself.
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>>148917069

Make it yourself and just add it to the mod folder.

I'm making a Sioux nation state currently.
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>>148924413
Culture buildings dont stay right? Im assuming ill lose my 3rd tier ethiopian drill camp if i switch.

What cultural building does Ashkendi have?
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is there any reason to not embrace Protestantism in EU4 besides roleplay
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>>148922864
Mememod? Which one?

I'm not sure I understand what people are talking about anymore.
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>>148924148
What should my war goals be /gsg/?
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>>148922864
I was totin' that
just cheecky totin' it around right like a little toter do
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>>148924464
>>148924148

>Belgium stands
>drawing the Dutch into the war
>advancing on the French forts
>entering Russia before France falls

Your Schlieffen game is weak
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>>148924770
not being able to win against the catholic league.
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>>148924794
>>148924984
t. kasslayer
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>>148924794
>>148924984
ebin
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>>148924534
you wont
buildings are based off the culture of the province
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>>148920906
>start in CK2
>accomplish goal in 4 generations max
Sounds like an interesting mega campaign lad
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EU4 in it's current state is more complex than Liquoria 2.

Prove me wrong autists.
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>>148925836
pops
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>>148924307
This is from a run I did a couple of years ago. Custom character John Prester, a European Catholic has a kingdom where Ethiopia is, and spreads his stock and converts the heathens. One of his kin reverted to Ethiopian culture despite being descended from the German, and wears tribal war paint.
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>>148925976
reverse we wuz
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>>148925763
that's all mega campaigns mate
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>>148924993
>French forts
literally what? this is wwi nigga
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>>148926308
Indeed, about the only mega campaigns I've seen that actually have a purpose after cheesing CK2 for a couple hundred years are the ones where they tag to another nation once they've achieved the goals of the first one.
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Turkey is becoming quite culturally diverse
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>>148926626
>black jewish aztec
ebin
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>>148926415
>not knowing anything about WW1

wew lad
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>>148926415
>France never thought of fortifying their German-border until 1918
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F
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>>148926782
not sure where you're getting aztec from, I haven't done any modification of the game, I formed an empire as Axum. I am an ethiopian jew, as its the only jewish start in the game.
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>>148925595
Are you autistic?
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I just want a component/vehicle design game like aurora but set in 1930s-1970s with a meaningful proxy war/military aid mechanic and programmed by a Dwarf Fortress-tier autist who is a competent coder.

Is that too much to ask?
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>>148926507
A huge HRE style Europe from CK into EU might work

I don't know how Vicky would play after that
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Madeira or the Azores?
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>>148915513
Incan Empire, or what's left of it, as explained here >>148915723 >>148917987

>>148915709
As >>148918224 said, settlement of explorers and refugees mixing with natives at one point or another. They must, and will tend to die, since unciv and all that. Basically, the Metis.

Any others people want info on? That's one vote for Courland so far, and one for Macedonia.
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>>148927039
Who's that
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>>148925976
WE

WERE

NEGUS
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>>148928259
For Vic2 you could have some massive war with proto-GPs in EU4 that destroy the HRE so then the goal in Vic2 is of course the unification of the German peoples.
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>>148927278
>Bismarck
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>>148928985
Why is a POW being kept in a front-line trench?
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>>148927039
Lithuania
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>>148929681
wew meant to reply to >>148928409
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>>148929681
Reminder that Belarus is the real Lithuania and that Former Soviet Republic of Lithuania is literally Macedonia of the Baltic full of asshurt Nowolitwins claiming heritage they have no right to.
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>>148922178
>>148921892
was this the only time period on history were slaps could be considered happy
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>>148927039
>Pagan/Catholic Lithuanians ruling over Orthodox slavshits
It was L I T E R A L L Y perfect.
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>>148931339
>hungarian king gets their shit together and keeps szlachta in check
>country is a superpower during his reign
>hurr muh absolutum dominium durr
>nobles act like literal retards once they get to pick their king again and choose a fucking swede, an eternal saxon or a literal retard to rule them
This country was doomed from the very beginning.
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>>148931520
>be lithuanian
>be russian and teuton punchbag
>need stronk Bolan to help them
>Leavethuania every single time the Commonwealth gets into trouble
>their greatest achievement is existing
>opress the Ukrainians
>they rebel
>commonwealth gets raped
>I BET THE POLES DID THIS
Lithuanians were originally orthodox btw.
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>decide to try the Ethiopian Jew meme game
>East Africa is fucking Barren of women

Nice job paracucks. Not very inclusive of you
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How do I have fun in ck2.
I can choose between
>clusterfuck start
>karlings everywhere start
>HRE / Seljuks / Fatimids / Golden Horde shits on everyone starts
Is balkanizing everything into counties the only solution?
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Forming the Netherlands as Burgundy is shit.
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It was an extremely bloody war, gentlemen, but well worth it. Now that Greece has finally surrendered, the Great War has come to a close. Europe will now prosper under the guidance of the German and Austrian-Hungarian empires. Of course, this new 'Soviet Union' which has replaced the Russian Empire will not be tolerated by the new masters of Europe.
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started as Milan in Ironman, just formed Italy.
Currently busy eating muh cores.

MY FACE WHEN THIS HAPPENS
HABSBURG ON SUICIDE WATCH

now.. how do I keep the frogs from rebelling? Should I just go blatantly over my force limit?
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>>148933972
you should something something .exe
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>>148933972
Placate rulers (-20%), now at 44% liberty Desire, excellent.

>>148934059
this is the first time I play this game in a year
it's more fun than I remembered it
fuck the Habsburgs
>HOLY >ROMAN >EMPIRE
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>>148933972

Don't integrate them, just let them do their thing.
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What's the best game for full Holy Roman Empire experience? CK2?
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>>148933329
Nice job Willy.
/gsg/, would an outcome like this redeem Willy as an emperor?
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>>148934630
yes
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>>148934630
>letting the soviets kill the real true emperor

no, he's still a scum autist who should of never became king
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>>148935339
I didn't have a choice fammalam. When Russia surrendered (after declaring war on me), they turned into the SU, there was no Civil War in this timeline.
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How do I make a coring event called from the console not crash the game in Vicky II?
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>>148935479
he would still of died in the coup

you bastard
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Is there a way to make RDS work with HPM?

Or is there any other map mod with similar visage that is compatible?
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>>148935592
I have HPM's 0.3.5.7 and RDS 1.07 and they work without any problem
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>>148935679
3.5.7?
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>>148935679
HPm's 0.3.5.1*
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>>148935485
ANSWER ME
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>>148935956
start playing eu4, it's much more better with better cheats too
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How do I play Pooland in DH?
Even if I begin in 1933, I don't have enough slider moves to declare war on Germany before they are too strong for me.
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>>148936508
No
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>>148936760
Anyone?
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>>148915670
The papacy.
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>>148937327
pls resbond, will dump Chihuahuas for an answer
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>>148922021
>if it's not in high demand then its not in demand at all
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>>148925976
>our forefathers used to rule over huge swathes of land, and other assorted goods
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>>148935585
That painting makes me sad. It's like I can feel the hopelessness and yet determination of Nicky.

;_;
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>>148939387
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Have to go afk for a few hours

Remember the drill, absolutely no Byzantine posts
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>>148939857
t. urk
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>>148939721

Cute pomeranian on the right there
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>>148914084
>pirate ship shows up
>it's called "Honest Navigator"
she'soneofourssir.jpg
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WE
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>>148939387
He was one of the most retarded monarchs in history, anon.
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>>148941149
DESS
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>>148941362
?
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how would you rate this meme?
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>>148941415
The character's name is Kongo. Sorry, it was a bad joke.
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>>148941540
The "snipers in Big Ben" is retarded, but the "regrettable overreaction" is a pretty neat touch.
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>>148941540
i dont understand what is happening in India right now
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>>148941723
HoI4 is without a doubt the worst strategy game.

Not just the worst Paradox game.
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>>148941723
Those graphics look like they were made of bad jelly
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>>148941821
There's gotta be some super low-effort 4X in space that's even worse.
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>>148941914
Wet clay, to me. I get the aesthetic, honestly, but it's not a good fit for a WWII grand strategy. It's too game-like.
>>148941920
Honestly, I'd say StarDrive 2 is better.
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this time the picts will submit to roman rule
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>>148939721
>that smile in death

;_____;

>>148941163
That doesn't stop one from admiring bravery in the face of adversity, anon. To me at least, it makes it more poignant, even, that he's not a great leader, not a hero, not a colossus.
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>>148942775
yee
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>>148942825
His bravery was more akin to autistic pride. He couldn't accept that he just sucked.

>Captcha is 1905
Speaking of "Nicky sucking"...
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>>148933972
>""""""""""HOLY"""""""""""
>"ROMAN"
>"EMPIRE"
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>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5*
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>>[V2] Liquor and Bureaucrats Mod 1.2*°
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ r1s3v3z0d17ctya/liquornbureaucrats.rar

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I may sperg out if you download this
° Talex and his Grandi Youth may harass you if you download this
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>>148943995
Obrigado, baseada Cobra.
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>>148943995
Assalamualaikum cobra
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>>148943995
REALLY need an imgur album of these pics 2bh.
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>>148944607
>imgur
treddit lmao
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>>148944607
Go back to r€ddit
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>>148945318
Make me matie :^)
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Rate my game of eu4
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>>148936760
You dont
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>>148945535
Find a newer picture for your stale meme
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>>148945535
>1280
>Aq Qoyunlu exists
It's trash
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>>148945535
>3rd
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What do you do when a nasty nonsensical blob appears? Because I'm getting really tempted to just quit now.

I was doing an hyper-autistic job of roleplaying in ironman CK2 as a Castillan King when a Fratecelli Lombard Republic of Pisa just appears and takes pretty much all of North Africa apart from Egypt in one swift war.
Impossible shit like that just fucks everything up for me and spoils my autistic immersion.
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Post your Alex Grandi
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>>148947190
It'll probably fall in a few years
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>>148947190
why wouldn't a fraticelly pisan republic try to expand its influence over the mediterranian..
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>>148947190
I hear HIP helps with AI blobbing and making nonsense shit
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>>148947190
Usually the problem with Paradox games is that it's way too slow to invade large areas of land.
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>>148947441
No it isn't
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>>148947582
Yes it is.

It's unrealistic as hell.
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>>148947627
No, it isn't
People don't invade large areas quickly, usually supplies are a huge constrain and paradox doesn't simulate that at all
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>>148947441
Uh what
It's easy as fuck to blob in all theur games
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>>148947861
Explain Napoleon, Alexander and Chingiz Khan.

We're talking on the CKII/EU scale here, not something like Darkest Hour.
>>148947874
Yes, but only over time. The lack of realism here comes from the fact that there's no "stagnation" mechanic, and also that players (unlike actual rulers or bureaucrats) are autistic single-minded expansion machines.
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Well, time to pack it in and go home
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>>148947985
They all did the same shit

They got a big number of men and marched in a direction looting everything in its path until they hit something hard enough, lost steam or died

Napoleon actually made use of wagon trains though, iirc he did some innovation in that area. He was defeated by the same thing I said: supplies
If he invaded Spain and the spanish actually burnt everything before Napoleon got there, he would be in big trouble

Alexander and Genghis did the same shit, they pillaged and looted until attrition and lack of supply grinded their march to a halt

A 'horde' isn't simulated in paradox games, as you leave barely any authority, you just plunder and go plunder, leaving nominal authority and local rulers in most cases
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>>148948193
Yeah, Alexander and Chingiz had no control over their empire at all.
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>>148948259
Alexander didn't have an "empire" proper, he just marched man and looted everything in his path until he died and everything crumbled

I didn't say they didn't have control. They worked doing vassal/tributary states out of the cities they passed through, threatening with violence in case they stopped paying tribute

It's different from a vassal-liege relationship like CK2 has or the beginning of centralization that EU has
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>>148948483
>blobbing
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>>148948483
>>148948636

Fuck off back to your steamgroup
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>>148948826
Kill yourself unhpm and stop spamming the thread
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Will there be more dlc or patches for vic2
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>>148948994
Based.
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>>148948917
>>148948896
Its the lad that made the Winter Kings ck2 mod
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>>148949046
victoria 2 is a bad game nobody understands and is too railroaded better wait for victoria 3 it will be easy too understand but actually more complex than victoria 2 just like hoi4 is more difficult than hoi3 because to conquer the world with luxembourg in hoi4 you need a lot of exploits but in hoi3 you can do it without exploits
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>>148949202
Victoria 2 is not difficult to understand and you're not special for playing it, now hang yourself.
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>>148949202
I don't get you guys, at least 6 people of 30 in our class playúused to play Vicky, you are not fucking special with your "hurr durr I am playing this hardcorde strategy that noone gets".

Fucking die you shits
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>>148949309
no victoria 2 is railroaded why can't brazil conquer all up to the pacific just like the us huh?? instead of giving manifest destiny to usa it should make it available to all countries to conquer land from one side of the coast to the other also i don't play shit games like victoria 2
>>148949440
i don't play victoria 2 is shit
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Anyone know how to change the party voting divisions in provinces? HPM makes some of the nations unplayable because voting is broken.
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>>148949116
>German interface
Who are you?
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The discord group is a cancer killing this thread
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>>148950056
Indeed

>>148949116
Fuck off, unHPM
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>>148950167
>trying to damage control this mage while he's actively shitposting with his friends
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>>148950220
>damage control
>post made 3 minutes before you
ok senpai
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>>148950275
Just fuck off back to discord senpai
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>>148950313
sorry to trigger your autism senpai
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>>148950056
all they do its to shitpost at this thread
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>Come to /gsg/
>Discord is shitposting in full power
Well, they've finally reached full on steamgroup level, huh?

Anyways, should I continue my HoI3 game with Japan or start a new one as a minor?
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>>148950071
you missplace that comma lad
Its either "fuck off unHPM" or "unHPM, fuck off"
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>>148950509
there are like 3 posts discord related
and not even posted by the discord
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>>148950589
Whatever works for you so that you can feel good about yourself.Your group is a bunch of shitposting retards. Always has been and always will be
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>>148948826
>>148950160
>>148950349
>>148950349
>>148950557
>>148950680
Stop posting the beear meme
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What can i do as Canada in vic2?
Any generals goal to archive? Any flavour
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>>148950792
STOP
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>Zero shitposting
>Maple shitposting
>unHPM shitposting
>Liquorlad shitposting
>Willy shitposting
>Heavy shitposting

I expected more desu.
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>>148950981
I SAID STOP BEARPOSTING !
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>>148950997
>>Zero shitposting
"no"
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>>148951049
''no''
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>>148951163
>he expects me to believe that there's another person in the group that would post a picture named "Cattura" even though he's the lone Italian

Good job.
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>>148951196
YES
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Link to the discord please?
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>>148951309
you got me
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The council must be the fucking worst 'Feature' of CK2. So much that your first action is to fucking abolish the mechanic as soon as possible
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What do i do now ?
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>>148951632
You should establish new client states in Eastern Europe and go for glorious colonies in India
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>>148951847
t. nigger
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>>148951632
Holocaust until no non Germans are left. Make papa Hitler proud.
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Why is this mod so bad?
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>>148952487
Because nobody tried to make it hard. Playing as anyone is either steamroll or straight up broken.
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>>148948193
The thing about the mongols was that the thing that made them scary was their logistical self-sufficiency and strategic-level speed, as their entire army was mounted and they for the most part didn't need any food supplies or housing.
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>>148952598
>tfw there will never be a good Kaiserreich mod ever again
Time to end it, desu
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>>148951847
WE
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Hey you guys know what could really cool? tw:empire soundscripts for eu4
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>>148953606
Please kill yourself stop trying to make /gsg/ fulfill your retarded dreams.
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>>148953697
just thought it'd be cool
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Fucking swedish mememasters.
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>>148953697
bully
>>
Please get real friends.
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Is Hungary going to be at war with me? They are in my sphere.
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>Wanna play Communist Germany in V2
>Then realize I'd have to micromanage all those fucking industries
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>>148953910
>That cursor
Game crashed afterwards?
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>>148951632
Take Luxemburg scrub.
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>>148954551
Retarded shit, now I have a truce with Russia.
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>>148951632
Krakau and Luxemburg.
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>>148949964
>>148949116
Probably Claymore

t. insider
>>
>some arab declares war on me
>imprison his wife, his only son, and both his daughters
>execute his 2 year old son
>take his wife as a concubine and impregnate her
>take the daughters as concubines and impregnate them as soon as they're old enough
>imprison and execute his ex-wife and daughters after they give birth

feels much better than actually winning the war tbqh.
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>>148955103
Nah, it's unHPM.
And now fuck off.
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>>148955103
>>148955176

t.unHPM
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see this
what do?
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>>148954905
>"Republic"
>"of"
>"Turkey"
>>
>my i thought Hungarians were cucked
Poles got rekt
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>>148955402
Set up my assault boats
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You know, HoI4 is so simplified that you can hardly call it a grand strategy game. In fact, it seems that grand strategy genre in general is dying because all the major companies dumb down their games to reach a wider 100 IQ audience. Just because a game has a Paradox world map doesn't mean the strategy-aspect of that game is grand at all. Plenty strategy games that are not considered grand have more micromanagement than HoI4 and EU4, for example.

Just disappointed.
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>>148951594
If you use the council then your vassals are literally not allowed to form factions. It's actually very powerful if you maintain just 1 or 2 really powerful vassals and force them to be peaceful, you'll never fight a rebellion ever.
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>>148956268
Technically speaking, Grand Strategy is literally just strategy on the grand scale - as in, being fuckhuge in geographic size or the amount of time covered. Even if every battle was just RPS, it's still grand strategy, and civilization qualifies more for being a gs game than almost any other.
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>>148956268
I disagree about the IQ part, but the rest is on point.
HoI4 is a pos and I hate it.
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>tfw its been 70 years and tabriz still has no armenian pops migrating and won't become a state
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>>148956991
DELETE THIS
at.aturk
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>>148956663
I have always understood the term in lines of its academic meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_strategy

This definition contains the ideas of diversity, holism and micromanagement, I believe.
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Wew lad
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>>148956991
how tho
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>>148957201
post map
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>>148954905
You gave up too much clay tbvh
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>>148954654
V3 should have hoyfour's production chains
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>>148957289
Started as russia, immediately released + played as armenia, cheated to get back Armenian cores in the ottoman empire because I'm a shitter who can't OPM to GP in 100 years. Armenia starts as a civilized nation to Persia's unciv status, so expansion isn't too hard there. Russia sphered me early and kept me safe from the Turks until they started going full sick man of Europe and I could take them independently.

Armenia + Persia = coal and iron, so industrialization was fairly simple. I also got a shitton of prestige from repeated defensive Ottoman wars - they'd declare on me for our shared cores, Russia would intervene and I'd get free prestige and a state sometimes.

Pretty fun.
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So what should I change it to, lads?
The UK has been at war Japan, France, Russia, Germany, Italy and some others for nearly a decade.
>>148957363
You mean Europe, my homeland or the F12 world map?
>>
In EUIV is it possible to switch and play as one of your colonies instead of the one you started with?

I thought I remember the tutorial saying something like that but maybe I'm wrong.
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>>148957756
map of Kenya, and/or a f12 map. Also, who did you start as?
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>>148957194
It implies holism and diversity in fields, but strictly speaking grand strategy is wide in scope and doesn't (necessarily) micromanagement. Hearts of Iron III, if you play as a game that already starts in war, is not grand strategy, for example, while even something like vanilla EU4 is. That being said, CK2 may or may not qualify.

>>148957834
Yeah you can.
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>>148957834
Not in ironman IIRC but otherwise yea
>>
How do i remove India completely from CK2+?
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>>148958215
It's already empty no? The landmass itself can't be because you need it for horse memers, who didn't get removed.
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>>148958215
pakistan pls go
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Started as Sardinia-Piedmont, became a GP, forced the Brits' influence in Oman to drop rock bottom, colonized Zanzibar and tricked my way through to get as many Italians as I could there. Released Kenya in 1906 and changeownered the entire colony to me (I wanted to get one of those literally cosmethic blobs you can release in Africa and customize my own flag, name, party names and so on, but it only works if at least one of those provinces has no cores). I'll now colonize those Zambian breakoff states, hope for Shona to be released as well mid-war and release Southern Rhodesia.
Nairobi is 54% North Italian and many other provinces have +40% of their pops North Italian.
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>>148958292
Pakistan is based
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>>148957847
>>148958778
And the world map, nothing too noticeable other than that clusterfuck being formed in South Asia.
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>>148954654
>posting are timmy
>>>/brit/
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>>148957834
you need COP
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>>148941540
how do I git gud
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>meanwhile in India
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Why can't you build Rio's Christ in HPM?
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>>148960332
They're pure aryans at heart
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>>148960470
It's be islamophobic
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>>148960606
Aren't persians technically white as fuck?
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>>148960712
>glorious persians
>indian scum
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>>148960470
>why can't I do fun things in muh le precious """""historical""""" """"""""""project"""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""mod""""""""""""""""""""
>why can't I do historical things in muh le precious """""historical""""" """"""""""project"""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""mod""""""""""""""""""""
>>
>>148960832
Sorry for jumping too far, I was just thinking once you brought up the word "aryan".
>>
>>148960470
No one suggested that for him, probably
Do it next time he's around
>>
Why are the Indian Wars not simulated in V2 ?
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>>148960712
Well yes they're literally aryan, the use of "aryan" to just mean "white" was from an old theory that the origin of indo-european languages was actually in northern europe
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>>148961267
Too small
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>>148960916
mad af
>>
WHY IS IBERIA NOT IN HPM
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>>148960470
>>148961267
>>148961454
trob
>>
how do I play HOI 4
>>
ItsShitpostingTime.web,
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>>148961454
meme
>>
>>148961454
WHY IS THERE NO WHITE UNION IN HPM
>>
>>148961454
t. Juan Pablo Alvarez Matamoros
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what should I do as Joeson? keep in mind i have Historial Additions Borders+ so there's a bunch of new provinces in places like Manchuria
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>HoI4 - 0/10
>EU4 - 2/10
>CK2 - 5/10
>V2 - 7/10

this is true and you know you
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>>148962336
>>
>>148962336
>what EvW was ging to be - 10/10
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>>148961606
There is, it's called germany
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>>148918630
Soviets really like to be in pockets for some reason.
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>>148960606
>hitler literally never said or used aryan
>+70 years
>le aryans am i right??? stoopid nadzis!!!
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>>148961606
Alex is a monkey nigger who served in Syria for ISIS as a janitor in their execution site, where he died after it was known he was a kike. He got raped by a gang of 50 formable men known as Jamal until she could no longer take the BBCs, but was brought back to life by the light of Allah to become the second prophet of Islam. There she got her time traveling powers and went on a long rough travel to Oslo, where she fulfilled her Destiny as the Second Prophet. She now preaches in the Memeth Mosque, where she preaches the lights of femisnism, LGBTQWABCDEFGHYMBUFDGHGGHGfGBVDDIABVDE movements, degeneracy, reddit and the needed fight against islamophobia, antisemitism and the needed deposal of a racist man knwon as the The Great Emperor Drumpf.
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>>148962429
refute one thing I said
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>>148962429
He's not wrong in the rankings except for maybe CK2 vs Victoria 2. EU4 should have a higher score though, it's gotten patched up quite a bit.
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>>148962589
I'm too neurotypical for this general.
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>>148962589
>you will never be this autistic
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>>148962524
Nice concentration camp you've got there.
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>>148962048
>what should I do in EU4
Uh, blob?
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A Jew walks onto a bus, holding a large dufflebag. He asks for a senior discount, even though he couldn't be much older than 40. Driver asks for his ID, the Jew complains and refuses to pay full fare. It goes back and forth between the driver and Jew, both too stubborn to give in. In a rage, the driver throws the Jews dufflebag off the bus, and it tumbles down a hill. The Jew exclaims "What the fuck?! Just because I didn't pay full fare you try to kill my son?"
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Is there a way to make Crusader Kings II stop crashing when autosaving or trying to save games?
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>>148963182
Don't save.
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>>148963159
What the fuck is a dufflebag?
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What did the Jewish peadophile say to the child?

"Wanna buy some candy?"
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>>148963350
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dufflebag
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>>148963453
What the fuck is google?
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What's the difference between a boy scout and a jew?

A boy scout comes back from his camp.
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>>148963621
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Flmgtfy.com%2F%3Fq%3Dgoogle&l=1
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>start a new EU4 game
>beat the shit out of Brandenburg
>i promised my allies territory so i give them some clay next to mine
>they give it all back as unlawful territory
>i am the only one to gain anything from the war
Is the AI retarded? Who accepts these unlawful territory bullshit things? They never have any serious effect at all if you deny them.
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>>148963804
>EU4

Found your problem.
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>>148963804
They cost me the game once, one province, one claim denied, and half of eu coalition'd me
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>>148962048
Where are Manchu?
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>>148964120
How new are you, you fucking neufag?
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>>148964405
t. reddit aka rob aka alex aka unhpm aka R&I aka arumba
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Is there a grand strategy game that looks more aesthetically appealing than HOI3?
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>>148964678
The fonts pissed me off but otherwise I liked the general aesthetic.
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>>148964678
I like Victoria 2 with RDS desu
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>>148964820
HOI3 actually looks like you're looking at a map on a table. If you zoom in, you can even see creases on the 'map'.
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>>148964678
I've never really liked HoI3 design. It's just so... sterile. Can't get comfy at all.
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Any tipps on Oranje Freistaat?
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>>148965005
Never trust the eternal anglo.
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>>148964959
Yeah I liked that, but the fonts still look like shit imo.
That being said, >>148964927 is also good for a more 'clean' and less gritty, sterile feel to the whole design if you know what I mean.
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>>148964964
>It's just so... sterile.
Like a map on a table? If so, Paradox did a good job.
Also, post your play times for your Paradox games.
Arsenal of Democracy: 25 Minutes
Darkest Hour: 115 Minutes
EU4: 304 Hours
Hearts of Iron III: 2828 Hours in Steam and ~1000 Hours offline
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>>148964964
Thats HoI3 for you anon.
Bland and Sterile.
No events or different choices.
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>>148964964
I agree, but it's still ten times better than the bluefilter ipad crap that is hoi4.
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>>148965251
The reason it seems sterile is because of 2 reasons.
1. The game only goes through 12 years before ending, which doesn't allow as much flexibility as, say, EU4.
2. Paradox did a good job keeping the game based in reality, and doesn't let the player go batshit insane without consequences.
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>>148965207
>~3828 hours total
Jesus fuck anon....
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>>148965561
I still find DH much more flexible than Hoi3.
On the other hand i simply hate how Leadership replaced tech tree and teams in HoI3 so im quite biased against it.
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>>148965882
The only thing I liked about DH was the research system. If HOI3 had it, I'd probably have even more time put into it.
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>>148965882
i thought people only played DH for Kaiserreich
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>There is never going to be a game that takes DH's and HOI3's best points
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>>148966083
Wait 10-15 years and I might make it
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>>148966083
>we can't just have a combination of Vicky2 and HoI3's map for every game to come
>we will continue getting plastic clay shit
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>>148966060
Well there are bunch of different mods for DH, mostly based around Germany. Some make it memeish, some make it harder.

World in Flames 2 for instance does much better job with USSR defending itself while not being OP like Black Ice does.
Anyone can share not enough Trocky pic?
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>>148966242
>>
>Take all of Tunis sea provinces as territories
>Yay no more raiding!
>Tlemcen raids start
What was this all for then? I hate this fucking mechanic, Im just going to make all of the Islamic Mediterranean into my territory and release them later as client states.
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>>148966242
>2027, at a strategy game convention
>"Ladies and Gentlemen, allow me to present my new video game studio:"
>the curtain rises to reveal a giant screen with this image on it
>"Grossgermaniums Interactive."
>all the guests turn their attention from their games of Axis and Allies to applaus the man on the stage.
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>>148966083
Give me
>vicky pop system
>hoi3 warfare
>gunboat diplomacy
>reasonable economy system
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>>148966829
I've never played Vicky. Could you explain to me this 'pop system' that you all seem to cum buckets over?
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Was there any research on how big is /gsg/s unironic wehraboo/prussiapro population?
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>>148966083
Give me
>HPM
>decision on start for less railroaded run (like Iberia, big France, whatever)
>Assimilation that works
>Improved Naval Combat

And im happy.


So what is happening in Turkey anyway?
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>>148967112
Nothing. It's over.
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>>148967046
There are people, and they all have jobs, so you need to encourage people to get other jobs that you want them to have. Amazing isnt it?
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>>148967292
By what is happening im asking if army is being purged or something.
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>>148967112
The people stopped the military from doing their constitutional duty, encouraged by the president, who was hiding in a bathroom. Aroun 160 people died, alot getting squashed by tanks, and the president, who is moving to make himself a dictator is still in power. The people are helping him get rid of their freedom. Anyone against him is now getting purged, from the military to politicians.
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>>148967423
Erdogan has been purging them for quite a while. It was part of the reason for the coup attempt.
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>>148967562
>>148967532
>>148967423
This is not a purge. please stop referring to these events with the word "purge".
>>
Victoria 2 here.
What makes military organization?
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>>148967562
>implying the coup wasn't just Erdogan's falseflag
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>>148967423
Lots of people in the gov, the military, the judiciary, and the media have been silenced over the last few years. Now he's going to use the recent events as an excuse to take an even harder approach.
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>>148967712
Purge is when you get rid of things you dont like in something, how is this not a purge? Hes getting rid of all his enemies.
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>>148967832
>>148967838
This.
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>>148967712
well this is a coup
except the other way around, tayip is couping the nation
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>>148967853
>>148967880
Please stop using the terminology "coup" or "purge" for the events currently happening in Turkey or we will have to find a solution together for such ill-mannered behaviour.
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>>148967952
getting triggered eh, me matey?
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>>148967952
>t. Ussayad Al-Badeem
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>>148967952
Im in an underground survival bunker that I bought for the zombie apocalypse back in 2012, you cant get me here.
>>148968031
Hes RPing a officer in the ministry of truth. Hes doing it wrong though, should have dragged us away randomly when we first said something.
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>>148968031
Please give me your name and country of residence so that we can consider appropriate steps in the judicative system of your country.
You're islamophobe, slandering the good name of Turkey and should overthink your behaviour.
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Should i start playing HIP with conclave or stick with horse lords?
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>>148962578
I'm pretty sure I've seen seen a video where he actually used the word aryan
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>>148968152
Sobieski, Poland.
not even kidding
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This >>148968152
goes for you as well, thank you.
>>148968131
>>148968094

>>148962578
Also, are you retarded?
Hitler most definitely talked about the concept of "des arischen Menschens".
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>>148968152
>Turkey
>not Ottomanium Imperiums
You failed and you failed miserably.
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>play EU3 after 5 years
>easier than i remember it
>it gives me a migraine in a physical way now
>no other game did to me ever in 18 years
>not even 8/16 bit games

Anyone else?
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>>148968285
I realize that this is what is referred as memeing on this platform, but be aware that Turkey has no intent to restore the" Ottoman Empire". We have developed to become a peaceful nation, strong in faith.
Stop the slander and give your name and country. Hiding behind the anonomity of this place will not save you.
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>>148968215
yeah well you weren't there so it's probably fake, edited footage :^)
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>>148967838
It amuses me that if nato were being formed today, Turkey wouldn't qualify.
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On this day in 1870, the Franco-Prussian war began. Post your Bismarcks.
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>>148968573
poor napoleon
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>>148968573
A war, which no doubt started because of the French insulting his majesty Kaiser Wilhelm.
It was justified and needed to bring a balance of power to Europe.
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>>148968630
Fuck that frog.
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>>148968649
Balance of power was literally the most retarded concept in the world. The current year's world is directly a result of it
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I'm in 1915 in Vic 2 and had a comfy USA game.

Any cheats that can help me paint the map, the way I want too? Getting rid of retarded colonies, like Austrian mauritania, giving some decent borders, no retarded russian india....etc.

anything like that?
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>>148968649
You know it was France who declared war on Prussia, right?
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>>148968739
That is the fault of the Eternal Anglo who attempted to divide the German leadership and reached that goal in 1890.

I agree though - The political behaviour of the Eternal Anglo led to a very insecure and dangerous world.
Thankfully, Bismarck's great-granddaughter is currently finishing the work on his project.
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>>148968270
>t. Mustafa Derahadim
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>2% British
What's the point?
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>>148968573
Nappy III is an underrated ruler. He wasnt much of a militaristic leader, but he was the one to modernize France and developped the cities and the industry.
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>this has been going for 14 years
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>>148968901
Silly American. Only fools do not realize the brilliance of Bismarck's move regarding the dispatch of Napoleon III. Of course technically the French declared the war, but in truth the German Michl just put a trap down at the feet of the ill French Empire and caught a beast that would make for a splendid meal.

If a smart hunter lures a tiger into a trap in which the tiger thought to be the aggressor, who declared the real war?
The hunter, of course.
Silly American.
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>>148968825
Answer my damn question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>148969479
>>148968825
My fellow gamer, I can only refer you to a quote of one of the greatest men to ever live:

"Wenn man sagt, dass man einer Sache grundsätzlich zustimmt, so bedeutet es, dass man nicht die geringste Absicht hat, sie in der Praxis durchzuführen."

And with this I leave you and hope that you learned your lesson.
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Think there might be some issues with the America minimod
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>>148969603
Well said!
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>>148969052
>Despite his failing health, Napoleon III could see that the Prussian Army, combined with the armies of Bavaria and the other German states, would be a formidable enemy. In 1866, Prussia, with a population of twenty-two million, had been able to mobilize an army of seven hundred thousand men, while France, with population of twenty-six million, had an army of only three hundred eighty-five thousand men, of whom one hundred thousand were in Algeria, Mexico, and Rome. In the autumn of 1867, Napoleon III proposed a form of universal military service, similar to the Prussian system, to increase the size of the French Army, if needed, to one million. His proposal was opposed by many French officers, such as Marechal Randon, who preferred a smaller, more professional army; he said: "This proposal will only give us recruits; it's soldiers we need."It was also strongly opposed by the republican opposition in the French parliament, who denounced the proposal as a militarization of French society. The republican deputy, Émile Ollivier, who later became Napoleon's prime minister, declared: "The armies of France, which I always considered too large, are now going to be increased to an exorbitant size. Why? What is the necessity? Where is the danger? Who is threatening us? ...If France were to disarm, the Germans would know how to convince their governments to do the same. "Facing almost certain defeat in the parliament, Napoleon III withdrew the proposal. It was replaced in January 1868 by a much more modest project to create a garde mobile, or reserve force, to support the army.
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With what country should I spend 50 years in V2 occupying every single non-Austrian German province ?

Russia or France ?
>>
Ah fuck it, I'm just going to annex everything and release it afterwards
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>>148969808
Why would you do that?
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>>148969916
Because German states are a cancer upon Europe.
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>>148969808
Russia
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>>148969808
Russia, and while you're at it fuck the frogs as well.
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>>148970281
>>148970091
ok I will do it after my vacation and post it here when it's done
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Which mod for HoI3 is the best:
>DWI
>HPP
>BlackICE
Or some other shit besides these three
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>>148970375
HPP, of course, my fellow gamer
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>>148968409
But why? It's stressful?
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>>148970347
>vacation
I sure do hope that you are not a Turk in the service of the Turkish state, for our elected president Erdogan forbids vacations at this time.
Thank you for your attention, my fellow gamer.
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Who to play in the last HPM version?
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>>148970652
As i said game wasnt hard at all, something about visuals and performance does it for me.


But you know what i like about EU3?
When ally says he will join with "Very Likely" he doesnt bail on you like he does in VIcky 2.
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>>148970764
Georgia
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>>148970764
Bukhara
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>>148970375
DWI is pretty good and has a great 1943 scenario. It is like a weaker Black Ice. Still pretty easy for an experienced player but harder than vanilla.

HPP is just vanilla but with more paths open the game is in no way harder and hasn't been updated for some time now. I also had a lot of crashing when I last played it.

Black Ice, If you think the game is easy or lacking in depth this is where you should go. Has the most work put into it and with it comes the most depth and difficulty. The people that hate this mod are all scrubs who should be playing easier mods.

I also wanna throw a honorable mention out to Downfall. It is a proper vanilla+ mod and it is great while sticking close to vanilla. It makes the AI build less retarded shit so it gets a bit harder.
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>>148971021
>Black Ice, If you think the game is easy or lacking in depth this is where you should go. Has the most work put into it and with it comes the most depth and difficulty. The people that hate this mod are all scrubs who should be playing easier mods.
>Try to pull Sealion
>UK has like 95% defence bonus on their home Island
>cycle and entire army group through a beachhead over a few months
>cant push out
>trying to take a second province for months
>the americans join the war
>manage to sail across the atlantic with an army and push me off
Fuck that bullshit defence bonus, makes it impossible to attack UK
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>>148971306
>attacking the UK was possible in WW2
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>>148971021
>Black Ice, If you think the game is easy or lacking in depth this is where you should go
>Black Ice, if you think ai can be fixed by giving specific OP bonuses to GPs and calling it a day

Fixed it for ya
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>>148971306
>Doesn't land in multiple places
>Don't use tanks
>Planes?
>Don't know how make good divisions
Lad you shouldn't be playing Black Ice you can overcome the bonuses if you know how to play but the AI can't be taught how to play.

>>148971457
>Literally thinking modders can fix the AI
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>>148971608
>putting sprinkles on shit makes it good
>m-mods cant fix it
>p-pls play it its SO GOOD
>i promoted my mod last week and people made fun it it all the same
Conversation over.
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>>148971782
Well no idea what to tell you. AI sucks just like it does in all games. Either you can steamroll it or make it fight by giving it all the help it can get. Direct % combat bonuses are pretty rare in Black Ice nowadays mostly gives AI units instead. There is no competitor to Black Ice so insisting on hating it is retarded. If you don't want a challenge don't play it.
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>>148971021
>>148972117
HPP simplifies unit construction so the AI can't fuck itself over and make shit units.

BlackICE uses hundreds of units so the AI will shit itself unless you give it huge bonuses.
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>>148971608
BlackICE is a meme

This battle started with an entire armored corps fighting a single British infantry division with 24/7 air support and occasionally naval support.
They only outnumbered me once the americans showed up, which was months after the battle started.

The UK gets multiple defence bonuses for over 80%
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>>148972117
>If you don't want a challenge don't play it
True that. Its not like we see people playing it here anyway.
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Post WWI planes
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>>148972212
HPP makes it build better units sure. Just like every other mod out there. You don't need to make the system simpler. It is rather easy you just tell the AI what to build and when. But that won't matter when you can pocket the entire Soviet army in 3 weeks and then go take all the VP's since the AI is incapable of doing defense in depth. Black Ice gives it units to act as defense in depth so it doesn't just roll over and die.

>>148972260
That better not be a naval landing then you are really retarded. Also division structure how many planes what were you facing etc. Saying hurr durr I lost dudes and I did everything right doesn't tell me anything. Also 80% isn't a very high modifier you can overcome it easily by using good divisions and leaders.

>>148972261
Not like we see people playing Hoi3 here anyway. It is pretty much HPM and some fags who still play EU4 for whatever reason.
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>>148972584
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>>148972731
>still defending/promoting the mod
>its for hardcore gsg audience, casuals not apply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_-qftDlSww
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Hey guys, I'm making flag for fascist Somalia and I'm not sure what to do.

A part of me wants to use the flag of Somaliland since it sprung from a nationalist movement, but it's a bit memey since Somaliland itself isn't fascist.

So maybe I should just make a flag based on it but not the flag itself, hence two extra versions that aren't exactly the same as the flag of Somaliland.

So I'll just make a poll about it. If you don't like any or have a better idea, choose D and please tell me, I need ideas.

http://poal.me/chozji
http://poal.me/chozji
http://poal.me/chozji
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>>148972584
Scout planes were pretty cool,
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>>148973030
What does the moonspeak on the flag say mate?
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>>148973176
It's the Shahada, it says "here is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada
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Guys, what the fuck is this thing?
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>>148972731
EU4 is a sand box, you can do what you want because the AI cant do shit to stop you. I mean really, I hook over all of chinas territory as Qing by the early 1500s, it wasnt hard at all. Just take their capital, they collapse, and you get shit loads of bonus units when you feel like it. Cav and mercs do everything you could ever hope for. A stack of 15k cav can beat their stack of 40k if you have a 2 star shock general.
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>>148973176
>>148973270
*there is no...
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>>148973270
Well now im sorry that i asked.
Thanks anyway though, keep up the good work.
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>>148972914
Mod has no competition people don't like having to think more when they play the game which is fine. It still has the most depth and difficulty.
People not liking it is fine but nobody gets that there is literally nothing that comes close to it but they hate it because they can't use their brain to beat the AI if it gets help.

>>148973369
I suppose but games like ck2 or vic 2 are a lot better and it is a shame that the main current game covering 1444-1820 is EU4 which is broken beyond repair by the monarch points.
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>>148973621
You dont even need mana other then for coring and ideas. If you are willing to be 3 tech behind you can get all your tech for free. You never need to develop, ever. Gold is an infinite resource once you mess with your trade zone. I mean Im getting 8 gold out of venice as Naples and Im in the 1480s. I only own 5 provinces there, light ships do everything. The game is really, do what you want because there is nothing holding you back as long as you know the rules, like that guy who did a WC in 7 years on CK2 because he got infinite gold prestige and piety.

I just enjoy playing a country that I build up from a bad position and seeing it crush everything 20 years later because theres nothing stopping you from doing that. (Agressive expansion is bullshit, no one does anything if you ally France and Austria. The get in a war, drag them in, and le them do anything. Theyll be exhausted hen your done, attack one of their allies and take that land because they wont join)
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>>148971608
>Literally thinking modders can fix the AI

No, but modders can sure break the AI by shoving in unnecessary amounts of units that the AI has no clue how to use.
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>>148973134
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>>148973418
Coludn't you add all three of them?
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>>148974453
For such a minor nation, with a flag with such minor changes (and debatable at that), I really don't think it's worth it, so I'd rather just choose one of them and go with it.
>>
What do?
Top option turns me into a republic from a merchant republic and puts libs in power.
Bottom option I wonder what the event that fires does.
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>>148974810
Link to Divergences pls
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>>148974896
I don't have it, sorry.
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>>148972584
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r8
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>>148975073
rule the waves naval invasions when
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>>148975025
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>>148957743
Why didn't you just start by releasing from Turkey? That's sea access and enough land to maybe get you someplace
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>>148975432
It makes more sense to see an Armenia siding with Russia against Turkey than siding with Turkey against Russia 2bh
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>>148974992
I "think" I found it for you man.
https://github.com/Pergame35/Divergences/tree/master
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France got BLACKED
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Rate my "Holy" "Roman" "Empire"
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>>148976401
wtf
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>>148972117
Black ICE literally gives the AI infinite manpower because the modders are too incompetent to fix the AI they broke.
>>
>>148976401
WE
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>>148976589
WUZ
>>
>>148977108
FROGS
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>>148976401
I cant find wiki page on that animal
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>>148976401
Googled his name and there's literally nothing about him.
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>>148977248
N'
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>>148977547
MERDE
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>>148977547
other particular things
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>>148976589
>>148977108
>>148977248
>>148977547
>>148977703
Does anyone have the image with Cruz saying WE WUZ RATS N SHIT?
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>>148976401
What flag mod is that though?
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Would the war have been different if the krauts actually had a decent amount of tanks?
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>>148972584
>>148972896
>>148973134
>>148975025
nigga these all look like the same fuckin plane
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>>148974213
Yes but if you think this is the case of Black Ice, you should probably play it more. The extra units help the AI provide defense in depth which it was never taught to do.
>>148976540
Infinite? No. A lot? Yes. I have bled the USSR dry before as Germany it can be done easily. The game becomes balanced around IC rather than manpower like it is in vanilla where Germany will run out of manpower if they don't just reck the AI in 3 weeks and win.
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>>148978521
>nigga these all look like the same fuckin plane
I've spotted the newfag.
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>>148978548
The AI is just Vanilla with 250% defence bonuses
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>>148978391
Better France mod
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>>148978651
Go play Black Ice before you comment on it. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about or you played it for 6 hours and lost because of mud/snow. It is just like vanilla hoi3, you need to spend some time learning how to play the game.
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>>148978632
im Sorry that I wasn't a proffessional aircraft pilot in 1914 lad so i can't tell that one used a V7 engine and the other used a V8 and shit
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>>148978836
>he thinks that >>148975025
and >>148973134
look the same
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>>148978786
thanks
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Ok so this is gonna be quick, just a little question.

Which one looks better? I'm only asking about aesthetics so don't pay attention to the symbolism. Simply tell me which one looks prettier.

http://poal.me/whiwlf
http://poal.me/whiwlf
http://poal.me/whiwlf
http://poal.me/whiwlf
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Can you convert a CK2 HIP mod game to EU4 with SMWH enabled?
CK2 vanilla map is fucking disgusting, but I'm spooked that the conversion will be garbage.
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>>148978481
Yes.
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>>148968630
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>>148979063
Top
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>>148979412
Vote in the poll so I can count it although I think I could already call a winner.
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Do i send naval bombers to the channel or southern England for port strikes?
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>>148979664
The land province with the port. So southern England
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>>148978951
yea ok one's got ice skates on it instead of wheels so what?
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Playing Germany in HoI 4 here, total noob btw. About to invade the Netherlands but the UK guaranteed it. How do I organize babby's first naval invasion?
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>1870 – Franco-Prussian War: France declares war on Prussia.

Memed
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In the middle of the oriental crisis, trouble is abound. Liberal elements in the ottoman empire are yearning for a turkish nation state, and if they manage to overthrow sultan mahmud II it is likely that they will not only establish a republic modeled on western standards and values, but also willingly fragment the empire themselves, giving all of its people self determination.

What I've done is spam events for pops becoming liberal, so there will be a large jacobin revolution. I will go full cuck in giving away chunks of the empire, even letting armenia go. But the end game goal is to look like >>148957430, which the fascists will achieve.
I may or may not give the levant states their total freedom just to protect them from europe until they civilize though.
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>>148979934
Draw an arrow on Britain and watch magical transport ships materialize.
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>>148979934
>How do I organize babby's first naval invasion?
Watch a youtube tutorial.

You probably aren't going to have the naval or air superiority that is required for an invasion of GrobBritannien.

P.S. Air superiority for naval invasions is just a meme their fleet will still sink your convoys all the same and your planes won't do jack shit about it, just savescum until they get across
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>>148980050
Make Ataturk proud my son
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>>148980050
do it laddy
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>>148980050
noice
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>>148979934
Hoi4 is literally jjust a click and drag game
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>>148980714
If GOY4 goes on sale (<$15), should I but it for blobbing purposes?
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>>148916150
Because no one gives a shit about gooks and spooks. This is a eurocentric general and if you don't like it you can fuck off.
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WHAT DOES MANY HOUSES DIVIDED DO, GUYS


THERE IS NO README
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>>148980890
No, it's only worth 3.99 at most.
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REMINDER
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>>148980223
>You probably aren't going to have the naval or air superiority that is required for an invasion of GrobBritannien
Wut. You easily get it because Britain always masses their shit in the channel. Just invade Scotland and win in two months.

>>148980178
>and watch magical transport ships materialize
We've already been over this. Historically, there's no real distinction between troop transports and convoys for America, Japan, or Britain and her colonies. Landing craft? Yes. Troop transports? No.
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>>148980890
There's no reason to get it until it leaves beta sometime in 2017.
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>>148978548
No, there is literally a decision where if any AI country is low on manpower it immediately gets more. Infinitely usable.

The mod is complete shit. The modders have no idea how half the mechanics in the game work. 90% of the units are useless and so is more of the research. Unit stats literally make no sense. The AI gets huge production bonuses on the order of 200-300%, with the soviet AI getting literally infinite production if it is losing enough. It's a joke
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>>148980050
fuck the liberals go commie
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>>148981207
>tfw I was waiting anxiously for Goy4 ever since January 2015, only to have my heart shattered a year and a half later
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>>148981418
Why did you even wait for Hoy4, are you retarded
>>
hoi 4 is literally a tablet game
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>>148980979
>>148981520
Sounds right to me.
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>>148980947
The five-second explanation is that it makes every US state a playable nation and you get CBs on the other states to unite the USA.
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>>148981509
Because I fucking love Hoi3
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>tfw blobbing feels pointless in Hoiiv since that is the whole point of the game and the only thing there is to do
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>tfw you can't release puppets and rejigger national borders at all except on the peace table so trying to get aesthetic borders is impossible.
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Post yfw the monarchists will win the 1916 US elections
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What is the best Victoria 2 mod? I want to create odd/interesting borders so I can draw names on maps.
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>>148981321
Again Black Ice is balanced around IC rather than manpower. Although I have personally seen the AI sit at -100 to -300 manpower for 3 months this might be due to saving and loading or w/e.

Most of the units are not useless but I will admit the research is rather clustered. Got no idea what you are on about with unit stats but whatever.

The production bonus is the standard hurr durr Soviet union has thousands of IC!!! What nobody seems to get is that along with this the AI gets a like -90% IC efficiency which means it won't build shit. This was added because of the units the AI gets often means their reinforce and upgrade needs jump through the roof making the AI unable to keep up.

Black Ice is fine and as I've told everyone else on here it is the only way to make hoi3 playable in single player after the first 300 or so hours. In vanilla and every single other mod I've tried and trust me I have played a ton you just pocket the entire AI army and then roll on and take the VP's. This is because of Paradox never teaching the AI to keep any kind of reserve or use defense in depth. If you don't like what Black Ice does that is fine but it is the only mod that actually tries and it does a great job of providing a challenge.
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>>148981927
>you have zero say in what other peace conference members take in the peace deal
Does Paradox really think that is how these kinds of things worked at any point in history?
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>>148982084
>>148982084
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>>148982246
If providing a challenge is all you want you could just give the AI a big +defense bonus, a huge IC bonus, and an infinite manpower bonus... because that's all BICE is doing.
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>>148982084
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>>148982251
Play as a Christianizing Great Moravia in the old Gods start.
Make wiping out the Pagan Slavic faith in central Europe your main goal.
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>>148982251
Nordify Russia in the 1066 start.

make le rus white again
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>>148982084
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>>148982084
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>>148982084
Who is current president?
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>>148982251
Play as a Paganizing Great Moravia in the old Gods start.
Make wiping out the Christian faith in Western Europe your main goal.
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>>148982251
You can either use the vanilla map or mini SWMH for better performance (removes most of India) and still get all the bonuses out of HIP.
>>148982543
Yup no more to it than that for sure. God just stop talking stuff you got no idea about have you even played BICE within the last year or at all?
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>>148982084
What's even the monarchist USA party
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>>148982827
>>148982827
Wilson ofc.
>>148982887
The Independence League, a party which historically disbanded in 1914. In this mod, the NS party is the KKK.
>>
test
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>>148982246
>Black Ice is fine and as I've told everyone else on here it is the only way to make hoi3 playable in single player after the first 300 or so hours. In vanilla and every single other mod I've tried and trust me I have played a ton you just pocket the entire AI army and then roll on and take the VP's. This is because of Paradox never teaching the AI to keep any kind of reserve or use defense in depth. If you don't like what Black Ice does that is fine but it is the only mod that actually tries and it does a great job of providing a challenge.
Its the only mod that fucks the game up, makes the AI unplayably bad, and makes the game shit easy?

Yeah that's a great mod.

It's completely indefensible. No one who actually knows how to play HoI3 well plays BlackICE.

>Although I have personally seen the AI sit at -100 to -300 manpower for 3 months this might be due to saving and loading or w/e.
No, you haven't. It's literally impossible because the AI gets cheats to always have manpower. If it didn't the Germany AI would die in 1939.

>The production bonus is the standard hurr durr Soviet union has thousands of IC!!! What nobody seems to get is that along with this the AI gets a like -90% IC efficiency which means it won't build shit.

lol, no. BlackICE gives the AI +efficiency, not -efficiency. If you tag over to Soviets you'll see that they literally build units for free.
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>>148982831
HiP just makes the entire game better.
No real reason to play without it imo.
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>>148982527
>>148982595
>>148982706
>>148982773
I can't really blame the US for taking this route. Look at what it's done for the Central Powers.
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>full citizenship policy increases assimilation
>when in reality all it does is give them a reason to keep their existing language and cultural practices rather than assimilating to avoid persecution
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>>148983397
Can you go gommie?
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>>148983486
>playing liquoria2: rise of the bureaucrats
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>>148983575
>ingame assimilation works
Dont be silly anon
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How is trade possible in Vicky 2 if there are no Merchant POPs?
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>>148983710
>he doesnt know about the invisible hand
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>>148983710
liquor
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>>148983710
what are capitalists
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>>148980050
Playing Ottomen is just depressing. They start with a nice empire already. It's pointless to give away stuff. I wish really bad random events happened to them when a human is playing
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>>148983710
How is politics possible if there are no politician POPs?
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>>148980050
Ottoman's starting NV is tradition, so I thought if they had a kemalist or other sort of revolution that they could change it. So here's this.

I'm having trouble getting jacobins to actually organize. I have a lot of liberals and militancy is high but I can't find any way to simply spawn jacobins. Separatists are common on the revolt risk screen but no jacobins. When I do "revolt 860" (istanbul) reactionaries of all things spawn. What can I do here?
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>>148983706
but the pops system is infallible lad
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>>148983843
>screenshot of reddit
fuck off back there
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>>148983615
No. Why the fuck would I I was selling weapon licenses to White Russia to get rid of the Soviets.
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>>148983894
There should be a way to fix it but half the Half the general thinks "people never assimilate t.rob" so fuck it.
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>>148983843
>only white nations can become liberal shitholes
makes sense desu
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>>148983943
>>148984051
th-thats notepad
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>>148983843
>posting on reddit
you have to go back
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>>148983843
>prussian_constitutionalism
wow how reddit can oyu be lad
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>>148983195
Alright you are just actually retarded. Any mod except for Black Ice is just a steamroll. Here is how Barbarossa goes down. War starts, You throw out a pincer around Courland a pincer around the pripyat marshes and one to behind Odessa. After two weeks you have pocketed around 90% of all Soviet divisions. Then you spend two weeks sending a panzer division to Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad. Gj you just won great fucking challenge there.

>No, you haven't. It's literally impossible because the AI gets cheats to always have manpower.
You know most things are triggered right? Often triggered at the start of the new month? If you frequently reload you can often delay events by a long time. So no it is not impossible. Oh yeah pic is pretty fucking related btw.

>lol, no. BlackICE gives the AI +efficiency, not -efficiency. If you tag over to Soviets you'll see that they literally build units for free.
Pic again is related.

So unless you want to actually present something that supports the BS you keep spewing you please just shut up.
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>>148983843
>reddit
reddit
>>
WHAT IS THE BEST VICTORIA 2 MOD FOR CREATING NATIONS TO CREATE GENERALLY AESTHETIC BORDERS?
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>>148984274
>if you savescum you can win
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>>148983843
>posting on reddit and capping your posts

why dont you just fuck off there?
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>>148984034
>there's literally no point in conquering lebensraum in vic 2 for your people because no one assimilates and even if the land is low density farmland and people move in accepted culture birthrates stay the same, just as if everyone were packed into a single province
feels bad man


when are we gonna get a REAL Willy simulator?
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>>148984274
What is your problem?
ITS NOT A GOOD MOD.
HOI3 HAS NO GOOD MODS.
NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HPM THREAD.
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are we being raided
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>>148984207
>>148984174
>>148984330
>>148984472
>>148984469

What the fuck? Did someone post that on reddit? I swear to you the only time I have ever posted that screenshot is in this thread, right now. And it's from notepad.
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>>148984617
Yes I think it's by this secretive, organized shitposting group known only as /gsg/
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>>148984659
t.reddit
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>>148984659
it's literally a screenshot of the reddit comment section

are you retarded
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>>148984578
Well i made an estimate for 0.36% of pops assimilating every year when you go Full Citizenships/All rights for total of 36% after 100 years but apparently being 19th century Swede is unacceptable.
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>>148984659
not gonna lie

it was all me, dio
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>>148983843
>NV is tradition
No, it's autocracy
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>>148984659
you are getting memed on by HPM and his fanboys
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>>148983971
Because you've already won
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>>148984828
> 0.36% of pops assimilating every year when you go Full Citizenships/All rights for total of 36% after 100 years
How does that work exactly? Assimilating 100 farmers takes just as long as an entire province of 1M?
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>>148984274
>Any mod except for Black Ice is just a steamroll. Here is how Barbarossa goes down. War starts, You throw out a pincer around Courland a pincer around the pripyat marshes and one to behind Odessa. After two weeks you have pocketed around 90% of all Soviet divisions. Then you spend two weeks sending a panzer division to Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad. Gj you just won great fucking challenge there.
BlackICE is an even bigger steamroll. Build super divisions that are 10x as powerful as the AI, then instead of encircling the AI once you just do it 10x because the AI gets free units, and then you need to memorize which cities not to take because they'll trigger the Soviets being able to produce infinite free units. It's literally easier in every way except for needing to game the system.

>You know most things are triggered right? Often triggered at the start of the new month? If you frequently reload you can often delay events by a long time. So no it is not impossible. Oh yeah pic is pretty fucking related btw.
Decisions can be triggered every day. The AI can't have less than (IIRC) 300 manpower for more than 23 hours.

>Pic again is related.
And you're showing what?

The AI Soviets can build units for free in blackICE. Its a fact. In fact for about a year the player could build units for free if they triggered the right modifiers. BlackICE devs are actually stupid enough to let exploits like that slip in.

>So unless you want to actually present something that supports the BS you keep spewing you please just shut up.
wahhh he doesn't like my mod, plz go away

BlackICE is demonstrably and undeniably shit. Fuck off with your retarded artificial difficulty cheesefest.
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>>148914084
EU4+Polandball=Awesome
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>>148983843
anyway I also had to change some shit in nv_changes decisions file as well. I don't know if this will fuck anything else up but originally the requirements were to be unciv, so when I activated my turkey nv changing decision I couldn't change to any others.
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>>148984828
>boohoo why can't people in the era of nationalism assimilate in their own cores
Just play EU4
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>>148985106
What the hell is Italy doing north of Bourgogne
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>>148985107
Turkey starts with the Autocracy NV, what are you doing
>>
t. rob
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>>148985107
why the fuck are you posting screenshots of reddit here? fuck off
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>tfw cant play as host nomads
just give them buildings like republics have estates
the option to settle in an empty holding slot for the winter so you dont take attrition would be cool too
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>>148985107
reddit pls go
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>>148985197
How else are you supposed to simulate a policy of ethnic replacement in a conquered region if not assimilation?

Keep in mind that conquering new lands SHOULD increase accepted pop reproduction rate, as people breed more when there is room for it and policy encourages it.
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>>148985107
fuck off redditor
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>>148985107
It shouldn't affect anything actually, doesn't make a difference.
>>
so i got a religious revolt, let they win for an easy convert but I just lost prestige and didn't change religion

what do I need to do now to change my religion?
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>>148985084
Of course you can game the system by avoiding cities to stop events from triggering. Just like you can spam MOT with armored cars and conquer the world before 1939 in vanilla. You can always game something.

Anyhow it is clear this isn't going anywhere so I'll agree to disagree. You hate how it is done and I don't whatever.
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>>148985339
>>148984875
Well whatever. I think you could argue that could change too, because honestly there should be a different tag for ottomans and turkey, would make a lot of things more clear. Like fascism for example. A manifestation of ottoman fascism wouldn't be the same as that of turkish fascism.
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mods when you ban all the "fuck off redditor" spammers please avoid >>148984207 since that was the only shitpost I have made ITT, in a moment of weakness

t. Hanks
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>>148985570
>simulate a policy of ethnic replacement
The historical way, by getting people to leave and putting your people there?

>Keep in mind that conquering new lands SHOULD increase accepted pop reproduction rate, as people breed more when there is room for it and policy encourages it.
>people breed more when there is room for it
You are retarded.
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>>148985785
>hurr durr people living in urban environments have just as many kids as those in rural environments

No, lad, you couldn't be more wrong.
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>>148985771
fuck off redditor
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>>148985758
Yes it would, ottoman fascism and turkish fascism is the same thing. Ottoman is just the ruling dynasty, the people don't stop being turks. Ottoman fascists are turkish fascists.
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>>148985912
Who are you quoting?

>people breed more just because there's room for it
Geez I wonder how russia/europe and literally every country that isn't Indonesia, China, Pakistan or India aren't overcrowded
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>>148985746
You're a dumbfuck. Take your casual mod and leave. No one wants that shit here.
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>>148985329
New states thing lets you own land without ruling it. Im playing Naples and Im taking all north Africa to stop the raiding. Ill worry about diving it up in client states when Im done.
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>>148985329
I conquest france
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>Vaguely interesting Europe
>Can't convert because fucked up and went AYLMAO RNW
>Playing France
>>
Does anyone else get a raging hard on when playing CK2? Usually I am after done, my dick is covered precum. Pls send help. Does anyone else experience this?
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>>148986064
>Europe isn't overcrowded
lad, what do you think spurred emigration to North America?

Keep in mind this image was before the cultural enrichment policies reached current levels of absurdity
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>>148984274
>WW2
>Artillery caused around 70% of the casualties
>BlackICE
>Artillery are useless because they take more frontage than any other unit in the game for some reason, even though the whole point of artillery is that it isn't on the front line.

Yeah no. If your mod fails basic history tests like that then its a bad mod.
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>>148985425
>>148985526
>>148985653
t. kojack
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>>148986616
Unemployment and poverty in the field in Germany, Italy and UK
>Europe is overcrowded

wew
Compare that to India or China
The image itself doesn't tell shit, it just tells how many people are living packed together, not how much space there is
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>>148983818
>Ottomen in 1836
>"nice" empire

Please don't tell me you actually fell for this meme.
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>>148987101
Well, you do have a lot of land for it to be a Turkish nation to begin with. Giving up land in general in vicky is depressing.
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>>148986597
Only if Im playing the Norse and I go around kidnapping and raping women, before imprisoning them when they cheat and sacrificing them to my gods.
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>>148987101
Well, they have good borders. Blob Egypt in the oriental crisis and You're pretty much perfect.

What I meant is that they start with a ton of land, there's no blobbing to be done unless you're aiming for britain-tier blobs.
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>>148986805
Just because people aren't packed in quite as densely in Europe as in China and India doesn't mean it's not overcrowded. Chinese are barely even human, they have more in common with ants+wasps than anything else and Pajeets can only be packed that tightly by using designated shitting streets and shitting rivers.

There were more Germans around in 1910 than in 2010. Do you think that still would've been the case had Germany not had it's borders shrunk by one third?
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>>148986597
i have not played a CK2 game without fapping at least once
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>>148987724
>there were more Germans around in 1910 than in 2010
I wonder why.
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>>148988089
I don't get it
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>>148986597
>Usually I am after done, my dick is covered precum
How often do you masturbate lad? I pop boners but I've never experienced this desu
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>>148988089
I wonder why
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>>148987724
why did they take prussia away

why couldn't it be bavaria or some shit
>>
What are the best graphical map mods for Victoria II? I know about Mishmash or whatever, but are there any others?
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>>148984578
never
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>>148988374
robmod
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>>148988221
I wonder why
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>>148988221
>>148988471
So many millions of germans dead that could've pumped out german babbies. I guess at least they also killed a shittonne of colonial troops.

Pic vaguely related, We was French n shit
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>>148987724
It doesn't mean it is overcrowded, your map proves shit
If you actually lived in europe you would know it isn't overcrowded, especially because most if not all nations in europe have small growth rates
Stop being retarded

>There were more Germans around in 1910 than in 2010.
Well geez, it's not like there were two world wars in the mean time
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>>148988471
They died so that ''''''''refugees'''''' could rape their great grandchildren.
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>>148988790
Based refugees
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>>148970962
>>148970957
I chosed the middle way.
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>>148989005
>country is in trouble
>run away to leech off of a more successful nation
>sexually assault the natives and use 'dat rayciss' when they tell you to stop
>based
Fuck you anon.
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>>148988760
Why do the Irish breed so much?
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>>148989178
Who are you quoting?

Refugees are based
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>>148989203
Because
>people breed more when there is room for it
Since Ireland is a big place the irish breed a lot
Don't you know this?
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>>148989203
Irish/Prussian mutt here
After going to Ireland myself and witnessing their behavior, I can safely say that the Irish are the niggers of Europe, in behavior and in their frenzied breeding.
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>>148989145
>chosed

>1872
>not westernized
wew
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>>148989282
I'm quoting my sister who was in Germany for her studies and was constantly being groped by the shitskins on public transportation.
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>>148989178
Refugees are based
>>148989342
Irish are the most passionate, friendly, helpful people of Europe.
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>>148988760
>A map of population growth proves more in the discussion of overcrowding than a map of population density
Are you stupid? I'm not sure what you're even trying to prove with that map. An overcrowded nation should theoretically have slower growth rates anyway, so Europe having low growth rates doesn't do anything to disagree with my point.

>Well geez, it's not like there were two world wars in the mean time
What I'm saying is that even if as many Germans died in WW1 and 2 and had the same anti-natalist shit thrown at them in the form of Liberalism and Marxism there still would've been more Germans alive today had they not lost any mainland territory, based on the near universal assumption that rural populations have more children than urban populations.

>>148989203
It's the Black Irish, laddie.
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>>148989475
LOL

Refugees are based
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>>148988471
>>148988790
>Communism would have given fascists the white Europe they so desperately desire
>Now they're flooded with Turks
You get what you pay for
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>>148989496
>universal assumption
*meant to say observation, not assumption. wew.
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>>148989619
Turks are based
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>>148989619
Turks are based
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>_____ is based

Where did this meme come from and for what purpose?

t. Meme Analysist
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>>148989478
>>148989576
>refugees are based
LOOK HERE YOU LITTLE SHITS, my sister was your typical libtard before she went across the pond. Almost as soon as she arrived in Germany, her texts went from "oh wow, there's a lot of refugees here" to "oh wow, there's a lot of brown people here" to "oh wow, there's a lot of niggers here". Being around those shitskins is what changed her view of them. THEIR behavior is what changed her from being sympathetic to being disgusted by them. I suggest that you spend a prolonged period of time around refugees or niggers before calling them ''''based'''' you fucking cum stains.
>>
Is there a quick idiot tutorial to doing okay in HPM?
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>>148989957
Refugees are based
>>
hey, we are starting a civ 5 game FFA
come join in if you want if not ignore this

https://discord.gg/yEkca
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>>148989982
1. Bureaucrats
2. Liquor
3. Uninstall.exe and play something else.
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>>148990043
Civ is NOT an accepted culture of this general.
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>>148990036
FUCK YOU!
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>>148989982
Do the same thing you do in vanilla
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>>148989982
Depends on what are you doing badly
>>
>>148990157
Refugees are based
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>>148990036
Refugees are beyond based. They are helping to get rid of nazis. This time we will succeeded!
>>148990157
Only a nazi would hate these people. They are thrown out of their country by imperialist europe, then we need to tell them they cant come here? The more refugees in europe, the sooner the capitalist bourgeoisie white scum will die off.
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>>148990294
>>148990392
FUCKING STOP YOU PLEBBITS!
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>>148990392
Kill the refugees.
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*gulp*
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>>148990545
>frog meme
Go back to 4chan
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>>148990594
Relax, put half their stack on a mountain place and bring the rest in when they attack.
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Gott im Himmel was ist diese Missgeburt
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>>148990802
>
>
>
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>>148941548
Baaninguuu Raaaabuuu!
>>
What times does Alex usually post? I have some questions
>>
>>148990392
>>148990294
>>148990036
>>148989723
>>148989692
>>148989576
t. Gregor Gysi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZngUCVO-tc
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>>148991103
he posts on reddit from 12 PM to 3 AM
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>>148991148
Gregor Gysi is based
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>>148991148
Just what I based my post on. Its shit tier trolling, anyone who thought any of this was real should go look up something called Scientology, it will change your life.
>>
>>148991148
Gregor Gysi is based

white pussy was made for muslim dick
>>
>>148991295
lmao

HDM fanboys BTFO by based Reddit
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>>148990671
>border is in Egypt
>closest mountains are all the way down in Ethiopia
If he lets the Ottomems occupy all his shit that far down war exhaustion will fuck his sweet virgin ass, he's fucked desu
>>
>lad who was going for a republican > fascist Turkey run got memed to oblivion because some memer can't see the difference between Notepad++ and reddit
feels bad
>>
>>148991148
oy veeeeey
>>
>>148991148
see >>148991215
& >>148991389

Gregor Gysi is based.
>>
>>148991398
What is HDM...? xD
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guys how do i play this
>>
guys my liquor factory isn't making a profit, what do I do?
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>>148990898
that's literally the mod's logo lad
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>>148991490
>memed to oblivion
epic
epic

I love hella sick memes
>>
>>148991652
alex grandi left the steel industry and moved on to the superior steel factories
>>
>>148991652
>still using a reddit tier meme
>>
>>148991684
t. reddit
>>
>>148991632
uninstall that gay kiddy shit and play a real man's game like VICKY and build liquor factories like the pros do.
>>
>>148991684
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh dude -________- sprudlo spader is for flipin kids dude -___- like what is benis is this some freakin kindergarten or what BOOM memed on -_____0. Willies are hella epic whathe heck is waglle ur bemis even supposeda be. -__-. Go back to flippin finnerland with your kiddy bear me me kid......
>>
>>148991834
Fuck off back to your discord
>>
is this the late-thread shitposting?
>>
>>148992013
>posting on reddit
You have to go back.
>>
>>148992008
What discord?
>>
>>148992008
discord is based

>>148992094
t. kojack
>>
Why did that asshole Alex Grandi nerf steel in his shitty mod? Now it's absolutely useless like in the past.

Also getting wool and fruit as a low ranking country is pretty much impossible, and you get reduced population growth due to this since they're life needs (which makes no sense even though that it's a vanilla feature). Good job breaking the entire game you fucking incompetent faggot.
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Is NWO worth playing?
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>>148992370
trob
>>
>>148992395
Play East vs West instead
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>>148992370
Steel should have cycles of usefulness based on the time of year, just like in real life, and collapses every 1-2 decades.
>>
>>148992446

Oh the unplayable beta ?
>>
>>148992514
East vs West is completely playable 1946-1991 with events and everything. The only problem is that it has a shit ton of bugs that are unfixable without the source code.
>>
>>148992750

Dude, some features aren't in the game.

the naval designer is broken as fuck, there's no naval invasion some countries are so broken it's unplayable
>>
>>148992483
Why
>>
>>148992750
didn't mods fix the major shit which was all fixable though?
>>
>>148992973
Everythign that was fixable is fixed

That wasn't much
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>>148992967
Isnt this the boards that always shouts at people that the game has to reflect reality? The steel industry does well in the summer and poor in the winter, going along with construction. Then there are collapses every recession, which tend to happen atleast once a decade, but I up it longer for only major recessions. Its been that way since capitalism began, way before the world wars. Maybe not entirely the same as now, but when things do well, steel does well, and poorly when things go poorly. And the steel industry is tied to construction seasons.
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>>148993245
there's multiple LP's of it on youtube

did they download a different version or something
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Didn't the Red Baron fly one of these at some point?
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Guys, I'm looking at the EU4 wiki for achievements and there are notes on a bunch of them that say "Not possible in RNW."

What the fuck is RNW?
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>>148993843
try doing an internet search for "eu4 rnw"
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>>148993843
Random New World.
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>>148993319
That makes sense lad. Not sure how you would simulate it though, or why it would be so much better than taking an average of economic boom + economic recession for steel production and just using that for the base level
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>>148993843
Reddit New Western

An edition of the game only buyable on reddit
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>>148994006
>liquor is number 1 produced good
>>
What factories are easy to make money with (((ASIDE FROM LIQUOR)))
>>
>>148994006
what is the point of this image
>>
>>148994218
Alcoholic beverage factories
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>>148994218
liquor
>>
>>148994218
beer
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>>148994137
>>
>>148993546
Possibly, How the fuck would I know?
>>
>>148994280
>>148994287
BUT I ALREADY HAVE A LIQUOR FACTORY
>>
>>148994218
Inebriating Refreshments
>>
>>148994364
build more then
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>>148994364
lad... you need to build more
>>
New Thread
>>148994478
>>148994478
>>148994478
>>148994478
>>
>>148994241
he's shitposting
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>>148993763
No
>>
>>148992395
Yes
>>
>>148994754
maybe
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>>148994348
I don't know
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>>148994241
>>148994754

The name of the lake depends on who is controlling it.

Historically the region was controlled by the british, so the name of the lake is Lake Victoria

But yeah, that's shitposting at it's finest
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>>148989346
Hey, going as fast as possibly can.
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>>148987724
>reading that
>i read whole fucking thing
I-i....just fuck me. Anything else like this?
>>
>>148995917
go faster
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>>148996969
Nice 69s lad
>>
Post all of your Willies.
>>
I'm starting a game of Victoria 2 (with HPM) as the US with the intention of tag-switching to the Confederacy when it forms. Is there anything I should do while I wait?
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