/twg/ - Total War General

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anime

Did they change the way units engage others for twwh?

>>148740850
What do you mean? They got rid of matched animations for the most part, if that's what you're saying.

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>>148740850
Let me guess, you were the fast kid in math class back in school, werent you?

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>>148740456
didnt notice that the enemy brought the barricades down, they managed to fire of a few volleys right into the back of my infantry blob, causing all my infantry to rout instantly

Skaven are shit

>>148741029

Don't they have the best sneaky killers in the game, who can get to literally anybody?

>>148741029
That was uncalled for.

>>148740975
it just looks like they blob less harder

WAZZOCKS
_____U
_____T

>>148741149
Fights are faster and units break more easily, so that might be something to do with it.
Certainly in Atilla you can hold up thousands of guys with just a few spearwall spearmen in the right situations.

>>148741292
Why do you have to rationalise everything? Can't you just accept that they fixed mass in TWWH?

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>>148741619
Err, sure. It doesn't make a difference to me how exactly they fixed it.

>>148741619
only thing I can see fixed is camera height
Can I get it back to attila levels of zoom I dont like the way it goes to whatever tactical view instead

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Why does Total War push the meme that swords > spears?

>>148741141

Dark Elven Khainite assassins are better, there's just less of them.

>>148742110
because balance

>>148741149
its because this >>148741292 and the battles themselves are much smaller, so there are fewer units to blob

>>148742110
Because romans are the only relevant factor in that equation and spearfags are rightfully reviled

>>148742110
Because a game where everybody is a spearman would be boring

>>148742110
The sword is a more versatile weapon that is much more maneuverable and deadly in tight battles.
Once a spear formation breaks open, swordsmen reign supreme

>>148742110
Because swords should be used as a flanking force, not to pry open a tight spearwall

>>148742610

The problem is when swordsmen charge a spear phalanx or line of pikes from the front and still win, like in almost every recent TW.

>>148742831
Those swordsmen probably superior in quality to the spearmen.
My high quality spearmen never have an issue taking on charging infantry.

>>148742110
It depends on the formation youre using.

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>>148742610
>a sword is more maneuverable
>a swors is more deadly

>>148743136
A sword is more maneuverable and deadly in tight battles.
How are you going to move a spear when bodies are pressing together.

>>148742610
>formation break
>speermann draw his schwert


what now?

>>148743257
He won't be as proficient in it as a proper swordsman.

>>148743234
Pull the spear back? You can hold the weapon differently you know. If space is an issue then thrusting weapons like the spear would be far more suited for the situation.

SUMMON THE ELECTOR COWS

>>148743453
There are people behind you. The spear is too fucking long to be used in a battle like that.

>>148743378
And why is that?

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>>148743453
Something tells me this isnt bait.

>>148743590
Yeah, that's why spears were used all the time on medieval and ancient battlefields and nobody but the Romans employed the sword as the main arm of their armies.

>>148743720
And look how did they fare against the romans :^)

>>148743257
That already defeats the point that spears are somehow a better all around weapon

>>148743720
You can produce a shitton of spears and train a shitton of people to use them in much less time and resources spent than doing the same with swords

>>148743595
It takes years of instruction and training to master a weapon like the sword.
>>148743720
Spears were used all the time in medieval and ancient armies because they're fuckcheap and fuckeasy to make and even more fuckeasy to use.
You can tell a peasant to buy a spear or make one and poke the enemy.
Romans used swords because they were mostly fighting infantry and their armies were professionals, not levies.

>>148743720
Spears were used en masse because they were easier and cheaper to train and equip troops with, first and foremost. Logistics.

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>>148743509
THE BEASTS SHALL RISE

#BanAssaultSpears
#NotAllBeasts

>>148743764
If Rome was so great how come America won WW1 & 2? Oh right, they were wiped out before they could even participate.

>>148743720
What is cheaper, a pointy stick or a metal sword?

>>148744181
I know this is bait Bob but I'm still getting triggered because I didn't expect it this time. Good job.

>>148743958
Then how come many spearmen (and archers, and other troops) had swords as their secondary weapon?

>>148744360
Daggers probably, not swords

>>148744360
Because inside their hearts they knew spears just wouldn't cut it

And because they weren't fanboy morons who thought a single weapons can cover every need on the field.

>>148744360
That's a knoif

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>>148744574
No, swords.

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I can't wait to tear down Beastmen with superior black powder weapons

>>148744735
wow that's a really old photograph

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>>148742110
Because it's fucking true, the only benefit of the spear is that you can give it to an untrained pleb and he won't embarrass himself quite as much as he would with a sword.

>>148744835
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FUCKING LORRY?????

I watched this for a minute waiting.

>>148744895
It's not an old photograph, colors weren't invented yet, retard.

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>>148744973
proofs?
were you there?

>>148744735
That's late Middle Ages senpai
And well trained, well required English troops

>>148745042
Equipped*

>>148744735
But real life is just like an RPG. Archers can't have swords or armor, that's unbalanced!

>>148744735
>Retained Archers
>mid-14th to early 15th centuries
wew lad, you really goofed this one

>>148743764
If the gladius was so great why did the romans use the spatha as the sidearm and the spear as the weapon.

>>148744963
I dunno. It hits the bollard and gets fucked up I guess.

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thank fug for night battles, I already fought a few 4v4 stack battles as the Alani against the Huns and while they are pretty fun, its just too much of a tiring clusterfuck to do repeatedly, besides this time I only have 2 stacks and a garrison vs 4 enemy stacks

>>148743878
This whole poor peasants armed with nothing but a stick meme needs to end, in 1100s britian every freeman was required own own a mail shirt, a helmet, a shield and a weapon of some sort. The richer peasants were also required to own a bow. A cheap sword sold for as little as 6 pence, or a day or two's wage for the average peasant. To put in perspective an axe for woodcutting costs 5 pence.

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If swords are so great, why do modern rifles have attachments to turn them into spears rather than swords?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxFgSmR0i3A

>>148745280
>In the history of Europe, the Middle Ages or medieval period lasted from the 5th to the 15th century.

What about hoplites with kopis or xiphos?

>>148745757
>not realizing you attach a small sword to the rifle

If spears are so great why do they need a sword at their end to be effective?

>>148745757
A bayonet basically is a sword. You can slash and stab, it has a decent reach, you can flip it around and slam people with the stock of the weapon, etc.

>>148745859
Also this. Swords are basically an evolution of the spear. They do the same shit.

>>148741017

How thick was the infantry blob that they only fired a few volleys and got 550 kills or are crossbows just that strong in Attila?

>>148745979
You can cut with a spear too. You can also bash people with the shaft.

>>148745979
>Slashing with a bayonet

wew lad

>>148746172
Muzzle thrust, buttstroke, butt smash and then swing down with your bayonet. BCCT taught in many militaries.

>>148745757
Because the average rifle is too long to adequately function as a sword handle.
Plus, bayonet types change with the standards of the time. Currently, we use knife bayonets, so you can stab or cut. In the late 19th century, sword bayonets were in vogue, and they turned rifles into less of a spear and more of a glaive.

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Doing my first Attilla run as the Ebdanians. I decided to go full imperial mode, but it seems I've hit a rut now. My expansions south into spain is all but over, my main army destroyed by enemy forces down there, and the southern coastal city states declaring war on me. My expansion west is still strong, as I have two full stacks there, but the great number of barbar armies in the area that maintain full stacks has made the position dangerous, and every turn more of them declare war on me. To my own shame, my homeland is now home to quite a number of Geat stacks. They are not openly hostile, but raid constantly, and I lack the funds or time to build up my forces there, in the case that they attempt to do more than raid. What do?

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>>148740670
Are there any good overhaul mods for Attila yet? Just about done with my current campaign and i want to try something new.

I miss burning
I just want to raid villages and burn everything

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post wood elf qts

>>148746404
You can't burn villages because they don't exist anymore.

>>148746462
>>148746462
but elfs are for lewd, not for cute

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I want to eat Vampire-chans butthole!

>>148746157
That's why I said swords and spears are the same thing essentially. They differ mostly in length.

I mean, throughout history you see people swapping between the sword and the spear. People used spears, then longer spears, then spears with shields, to short spears with shields.

Then they cut the spear length way down for use with the shield and it became a sword. And when cavalry began to rule the battlefield they switched back to spears, then very long swords, and finally firearms (which they still attach spear/sword tips to)

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>>148746462
I'll post you one better.

>>148746381

No John, you ARE the barbars

>>148746558
Who taught this retard history?

Who else already bought beast men like a faggot?

>>148746716

Please educate us on the true history of sharp things on sticks, master historian

>>148746808
Waiting until the end of the week for pay and then yeah.

>>148746001
>How thick was the infantry blob
5 of my infantry units, and yes crossbows are incredibly strong in attila, especially when fired in the back

Which is your favourite faction in TW:WH?

>>148746558
Long two handed only swords are a meme and mostly ceremonial or used to inefficiently do tasks like pushing away pikes.

>>148746913
NAGASH WAS WEAK

>>148746894
Same here, gotta wait for money in my bank account then it's beast-o-clock.

>>148746716
He's not wrong tho.

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SUMMON THE BEAST LORDS

>>148747063
I DID NOT CONSENT TO THIS POO

>>148746913
WE IZ GOBBOS

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>>148746913
Greenskins

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>>148746808

Since day 1 announcement.

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>>148747063
GORTHOR WAS WEAK
WITNESS TRUE POOPOOPEEPEE

>>148746852
Firstly there wasn't a unified spear length. Different armies from different cultures were armed and fought differently, the Romans didn't "cut down their spears and turned them into swords", they adapted it (in sword form) from another culture and "very long swords" were never employed on a massive level like spears are.

>>148746308
Yeah, shit ones that haven't charged anyone with a bayonet since Korea.

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>>148746462

>>148747364
Nobody said anything about what the Romans did or didn't do. It's just a general observation. A spear and a sword are the same thing, a sharp blade on a handle. The length of the blade and the length of the handle differed culture to culture and evolved based upon how each culture/time period intended to use them. But in the end they're the same tool, just in different configurations.

>>148746808
I have bought i never paid for it, i had cash in my account from selling items.

>>148747364
>>148747624
>>148746981
>>148747010
>>148746716
>>148746558

S A M E F A G

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

>>148747624
Just like scissors are pliers, bows are crossbows and mortars are handguns.

>>148747849
Never

>>148747624
It's fucking used differently, the only thing similar is that they're weapons. Are pistols just extremely short rifles?
>inb4 pictures of obrez

It's a "pistol" with everything but the caliber that makes it a rifle removed.

How many turns does it take to complete a campaign on normal? currently playing Empire and haven't conquered Sylvania.

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I was the guy who asked for some dwarf-help last thread, and a bunch of you guys helped me out with good advice and clever strategies.

Just wanted to say that it really made a difference and I now feel a lot more confident in my dwarf-play.

You were also very informative about the difference between dwarfs and dwarves.

Some of you guys are alright, don't go to Mount Gunbad tomorrow.

>>148747624
Guize, guize, lets stop this axe vs spear nonsense, since obviously they're basically the same thing; a sharp blade on the end of a handle. Any imagined 'differences' are purely subjective preferences due to culture.

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>>148747238
Rape,Skat and Beastiality-BE(A)STMean are coming.

>>148748080
shit forgot i'm on turn 188

>>148748013
The scissors are an evolution of the pliers, most pliers have a scissor bit at the bottom but some people just need the scissor bit so they removed the plier bit and made a full scissor only tool.

>>148748047
Actually pistols would be extremely short cannons

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>>148748120
I didn't see anyone talking about Dwarves last thread.
Though I simply must not have looked down

>>148747849
Would she be an Empire LL then?

>>148748256
It's spelt bestiality and scat, my good friend.

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>>148748346
for you

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>>148748047
>>148748013
>>148747624
>>148747364

>>>/his/

Get this fucking autism out of my thread and post beasts

>>148748547
Thanks for this rare Hitler anon, but why did you gift it to me?

>>148748353

Yeah, it was really easy to miss being so short and all ...

>>148747592
LUMBAFEET

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>>148748636

>>148748353

Clever.

>>148748120
My Choppa iz waitin for you stunties

>>148748758
Literally nobody is interested in your faggoty SWORDS ARE SPEARS ARE AXES retardation.

>>148748660
It's part of my masterplan.

I swear to God I'm expunging so much money for this game. If they release a "complete edition" any time within the next year I'm going to be pissed.

Who doesn't want Beastmen though?

>>148748636
>>>/tg/48270888

Get this fucking autism out of my thread and post campaigns

>>148748636
I'm so sorry. *bows head*

>>148748953
Not even R2 got a complete edition including attila and all the smaller stuff like S2 did, and even in Empire's gold edition a couple of minor DLC for nappy were missing. I think they're not going to bother with those anymore.

>>148749013
*smashes your head in while you're bowing*


pff... the weak should just die......

>>148749084
Rome 2 and Attila were quite separate. Each received what that poster is referring to.

Can someone give me a rundown of all the Empire agents and what they do?
Why should I care about Warrior Priests and what lores do what?

>>148749181
*unzips katana and teleports behind you* heh, nothing personel kid

>>148749084

Good. Then I'll keep spending endless shekels on whatever they throw out.

I genuinely don't regret buying the blood-pack.

>>148746913
trading between empire and dawi desu.

>sexy gunlines and vietnam simulator
>pike and shot with floppy hats.
my life's dream come true for me.

>>148749239
I only saw the MUH 300 edition for R2 around in retail form, never anything more for R2 and nothing for Attila

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>>148749181
*lifts up my mangled face*
You shouldn't have done that...
*unsheathes skeleton*

This thread smells like Lindybeige
post spandaus.
>>148748361
>french name
of course.

>>148749279
*teleports behind you while you're teleporting*
*spawns six ketanas out of thin air and put 3 of them between my fingers in each hand*

tch... last mistake.... KIDDO

reminder that ironic shitposting is just shitposting

>>148749251
No clue about the campaign uses but, nor about warrior priests on the battlefield.
But captains fight 1v1 well, witch hunters fuck over individual characters from long range.

Fire has damaging spells that are shit, and quite good offensive buffs.

Light has control and defensive spells alongside the empire's best anti-hero missile spell.

Celestial has speed boosts and some damage and shit.

>>148749592
*transforms katana into revolver*
It's high noon
*Shoots you six times in the head*

>>148749713
*teleports behind you and impales you 666 times*

hmmm, they never learn

>>148748757
wat

>>148749829
>shoots the same guy 6 times during high noon
shameful

>>148748472
>Being a non-brit.

>>148749935
it's a meme you dip

>>148749829
*it's a hologram*
*teleport into tiger tank up armed with a 120mm gun from an abrams tank*

say your last prayers...
*BOOM*
just kiddin... god doesn't exist... heh...

>>148749935
dumb lumberfoot

>>148749435
>that pic
t. Skelberto Barbonesa?

>>148750064
Anon why would you teleport into one of the worst tanks ever made up-armed with a gun too large for its turret?

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>Upgrade T3 stables to T4 stables
>Can no longer recruit one of my best cav unit

Thanks, CA.

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>>148747592

>>148750306
The tiger tank is invicible thanks to its sloped armor and also powered by porsche engines so it's as fast and maneuverable as a Ferrari

>>148750064
*As I see my evil twin behind you with the ultimate naruto katana*
Heh, you should be the one praying you sheeple

>>148750432
>optics
>item requiring basic manufacturing

>>148746462
>>148747592
>>148750432
women are inferior to men

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>>148750374
>research unit upgrade
>can no longer recruit either unit

>>148750732
And Elves are inferior to Humans. Why not go all out?

So we have Beastmen coming up, then X, and then Z-Elves, right? I need some pointy ears in my life.

>>148750732
I think you're lost. You need to go 6 doors down the hall.

>VC turn 173
>fighting chaos shits
>rank 9 varghulf from my starting army gets lost somewhere and dies

i'll never forget you smasha
173 glorious turns

>>148750974
Elves will be the next DLC faction if not the next DLC. Bretonnia will be fleshed out for free and will probably be inbetween. Wood Elves will probably come with a campaign featuring beastmen and brets and wood elves.

>>148750732
Buddy, these pictures were brought for fap material, not any battle-of-the-sexes bullshit. Chill out.

>>148750523
*parries with ease*

not bad.... but not good enough.....

*cut ketana and turn it into a spear*

time to meet your nonexistent maker!!

*stabs*
*drags the corpse of your twin to your smear on the ground after getting hit by 120mm gun*
*pour gasoline on corpses*

"i am dead" - you

yeah you are... rest in pieces...

*throw match behind shoulder on your corpse destroying your soul and body as i walk away slowly*

>>148750974
dlc 4 next month (maybe units?)
Wood elves in september/october
Brets in november/december, alongside 1 dlc
A small dlc around february to win at MWNL 4
TOMB KANGZ around march/April
2 DLC
Skaven during summer

>>148750974
Wood elves next DLC faction, almost certainly.
They're the only other faction that can be shoved in without expanding the map

>>148750851
>>148750981
>>148751135
Women are just inferior to males. This is a fact. They should not be given arms. Their only use in war is logistics and medical aides.

>>148751113
>VC turn 50
>taken all of sylvania within the first ten turns, took one chunk of averland because it's all I could hold without the corruption up and running in the first ten or so turns
>haven't done anything since

>>148751224
Nah family, isn't the first expansion(probably new world) due before the next(after wood elves) round of faction DLC?

>>148750732
>He says with his shitty immune system, poor hand-eye coordination and limited colour perception.

>>148751335
Fuck off. This is not the place for that stuff. We're discussing Warhammer FANTASY here remember?

>>148751394
>have to resort to ad hominem attacks

women are really pathetic

>>148751335
And Elves are inferior to Humans. Sometimes you've only got Elves though.

What cheats legendary get during a battle? is it only leadership or do they get attack and def too?

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>>148750523
Heh, you win, this time...

>>148751373

yeah

just uh, wait for archaon to show up

if you're playing on atleast VH all of chaos just beelines for you

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>Never Ever

>>148751543
shit it was meant for>>148751142

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>>148751335
>mfw

>>148751394
>women have better immune system then men
what? do you have proofs, would like to read about that

>>148751495
>i-it's fantasy

poor excuse. fantasy only works if you can suspend your disbelief.

>>148751335
And we're supposed to care why?
Nobody gives a fuck, just post more elf qts.

>>148751113

I gave my starting Varghulf a name and everything.

He was literally the destroyer of confidences for my enemies.

Whenever those cheeky Empirefags put up some mean cavalry I could just send Kardam (that was his name) in to solo them and he'd usually come out with 30-50% HP left.

That regeneration made him GOAT unit.

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>>148746462
>>148748757
>>148750232

>>148751574
Yeah, it's VH. I think Chaos always goes after the player if they're within civilization.

>>148751706
>http://www.livescience.com/16268-female-immune-system-stronger-males-genetics.html

They do, it's one of the more dramatic dimorphic differences you see in humans. So next time your gf gives you a hard time for having manflu, you can tell her to stuff it.

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>>148751698
>mein gesicht wenn

>>148749529
Well, to be fair, she's a Bretonnian humanloving vampire in the Empire. It's not quite as clear cut as it could be.

>>148751782

yeah smasha earned his name. that's what he was good at

i think he was chasing some mara horsemen when he ran into some halberds

i thought he was invincible

>>148751113
F
It was equally sad for me when Manny got attacked by 5 dwarf stacks on turn 220 and I lost Little Pupper and his friend Big Doggo.

>>148750732
>t. skinnyfat.

>>148752026
well, it makes sense since they responsible for the offspring immune system

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>>148752108
>mfw he retaliates with Michael "I make up my kill claims" Wittman

>>148752026
Then why does my wife keep getting sick and falling on door knobs so often?

>>148751854
'TIS NO KERILLIAN YA LUMBAFEETED MAYFLY

>>148752480
>soviet tanks
>literal deathtraps
>>148752540
probably because she is fucking tyrone.
Cuck

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POOPOO PEEPEE
11 DAYS TILL BEASTMEN DLC

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>>148752480
>bolshelvik female """""achievements"""""

>>148752760
>flying at subsonic speeds
>dogfighting

>>148752646
>>soviet tanks
>>literal deathtraps

>German tanks
>Break down before they even get to the fight

>>148750974
According to leaks (which have been spot on so far, outdated info my balls) there will be another DLC before Wood Elves

>>148752254

who were they? i didn't keep my fell bats

i did keep my starting gobbos in my last greenskin playthrough though. gave them a fear & terror banner. was funny every time

>>148752907
>the soviets themselves loved to use the pz3 and pz4.
>early t-34 1941s and kv2s were so dogshit that they hampered soviet counterattacks with their unreliability

Add cramped crew compartments, no dedicated gunners/loaders and terribad optics, and you have a tank that is dogshit individually.

>>148753382
Those were the starting Varghulf and his friend that I raised early on to keep him company.

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>>148752626
Dorfs plz go, this is wood elf qt thread.

>>148749529
>THE MG42, OR SHOULD I SAY SPANDAU, IS INACCURATE AND CAN'T EVER HIT ANYTHING EVEN AT POINT BLANK RANGE, HERE IS A ANECDOTE FROM A SOLDIER BY THE WAY DID YOU KNOW ONLY 1% OF SOLDIERS ACTUALLY SHOOT TO KILL? ALSO GUNS ARE LOUDER THAN THE 6 BILLION BIG BANGS

>>148753396
http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/p/christos.html

How are fellow britbongs coping with this heat?

I keep checking my computer temps in fear of it exploding, its going over 60 degrees.

>>148753082
>there will be another DLC before Wood Elves

;__;

>>148753749
Dying here desu lad

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>learn that beastmen is about to be released
>check /vg/ thread
>everyone's making fun of them

S-stop it.

I've been a Beastman player since the damn 90s, I don't deserve this shit.

>>148753749
No inselaffen in /twg/

this is an /eu/ thread

>>148753691
>the mg42, a gun which fires up to 1500 rounds/min with an effective range up to 2000m, can't hit anything
Did he actually say that shit?

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>>148753749
This kind of heat should be illegal

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>>148753905
Why would you ever stick with beastmen? That's worse than being a domestic abuse victim but constantly returning to your spouse.

>>148753905
you truly don't, you guys are bros, playing a shitty army just because you like it and not giving a fuck about "muh competitive"

you don't deserve this shit, sorry

>>148753905
You deserve it all the more

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> playing as rome
> not playing etruscan league and removing rome before it becomes a thing

did figure out a way to beat the hard as fuck early game,
> fortify velarthi and leave ariminum undefended
> their starting army will take it and leave rome undefended
> take rome with the vetarthi army

>>148753805
I have had to change my sheets every day after waking up in a pool of sweat.

I cant deal with this.

>>148753905
everybody is hype as it's the first "new" faction

They are getting more attention than when the army book got updated back in 2011

rejoice

>>148753994
Yes.

>>148753728
>german tanks had bad ergonomics
>this excuses soviet tanks
You also believe that the panther ausf G was as mechanically reliable as the panther ausf A right?
>>148753615
sauce

>>148753749
It's not the heat it's the feckin humidity.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE reply to me
does legendary ai only get leadership bonuses or do they also get hidden def and atk buffs?

>>148754395
Why would he talk shit about a gun he clearly hasn't even used in a video game, let alone real life?

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>>148754693
>reply to me

>check out steam
>best seller #3 is beastmen and #5 is TWW

Do you think GW is starting to regret its decision? Maybe TWW could have bring new players to the TT game

>>148754764
No as they've probably made insane money from AoS

>>148754693
>

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>>148753905
Don't worry anon
>Never bother with Beastmen while looking at Warhammer lore
>See them in DLC trailer
>Look into them more
>Now I'm a diehard Beastmen fan
Get fucked Bretcucks and Elves, we /Beastieboys/ now!

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>>148754764
>Maybe TWW could have bring new players to the TT game
No.

1 (one) (singular) (Less than multiple) unit of beastmen costs $30 and you need to buy multiple, multiple, multiple versions of those and even more expensive units.

To play beastmen in TWW you need to shell out twenty shekelsteins and you have a mostly complete roster (In b4 Jabberslythe cucks).

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>>148754761
>>148754867
i want information, not a fucking (you)

>>148754534
>You also believe that the panther ausf G was as mechanically reliable as the panther ausf A right?

For one, the first Panther production variant was the Ausf D.

And yes, I do believe the Panther Ausf G was as reliable as the Ausf D because the British couldn't get any meaningful data from trials using captured Panthers because they had a nasty habit to spontaneously catch on fire.

>>148754858
>they've probably made insane money from AoS
I wouldn't call "pre End Times WHFB" insane money

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>>148754858
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GAW:LN

>>148755089
This is due to Brexit senpai...

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>>148754984
No you just said for people to reply to you. Which i'm doing.

>>148755156
look at the year 2016

look at that fucking drop in January

>>148746462
>>148750432
Those are not Warhammer elves.

>>148754974
>implying people want Jabberslythes and not flying ugly waifus
>implying that if people let this roster cut slide it will not repeat itself when more popular factions come

>>148755263
Tbh I bet most people but their models from forge world and the like, or they don't play at all because they prefer having savings

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>>148755171
okay then senpai, can you answer me then?

>>148755263
it should also be noted that most of the "AoS" sales can be attributed to the Warhammer Fantasy miniatures getting sold off in the Last Chance sales

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>>148755417
>people but their models from forge world

>>148755417
the worst is that both 40k and AoS sells are together in that drop

I don't know how AoS is doing alone

>>148755417
>forge world
toppest of keks
Only people who play chaos dwarves or 40K apocalypse buy from there

>>148755529
What's wrong?

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>>148755487
Yes. I can answer you.

>>148755487

AI gets hidden bonuses, yes.

>>148755487
The campaign difficulty is what affects morale and, as such, can't be changed since you're in legendary.

The battle difficulty, and I'm just speculating based on observations, give hidden bonuses to the AI attack and defense.
and can also not be changed due to legendary difficulty.

>>148755829
Please don't bully Anon, Anon.

>>148756004
dont behave like a little bitch, then

>>148752204

That's unlucky. RIP Smasha.

Who are the arch-ennemy of the tomb kings?

Like Empire vs Chaos, Dwarfs vs Greenskins, Wood elves vs Beastmen or Skaven vs Lizardmen

What can Chaos do about these VC deathstars in MP?

>>148756004

Speaking of bullying:

>bullying Empirefag's archers with flying monsters as Vampire Cunts

No feeling greater.

>>148756354
CA's content announcers.

>>148756354
Vampire counts I guess

>>148756354
Vampire Cunts

>>148756360
Not much since chaos is the weakest faction in MP, with most troops being too expensive. Trying to snipe the necromancer with a death sorcerer is the best option.

>>148756360
At the moment, nothing.
If the aoe spells get buffed, maybe those.

>>148756598
>>148756569

Gotcha, how well could I do with Brets or Greenskins?

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>>148753905
>Mfw just realised Beastmen were the faction that initially got me into Warhammer
Pic related was the first White Dwarf i bought mainly because the cover looked so bad ass when compared to all the other magazines on the shelf.

Never ended up collecting Beastmen since one of the following magazines i bought featured Lizardmen which appealed even more to me as a teenager

>>148756748
>Brets
Grail Knights and Leoncoeur deal magic damage, enjoy (also, paladins on peasus for Necromancer sniping)
>Greenskins
FOOT.
OF.
GORK.

>>148756748
Greenskins might do decently, they're pretty good overall. Grimgor might be able to force himself in and murder the necro. Brets aren't that good for the most part.

Can units not attack when in spearwall? Retards keep breaking formation.

>>148757392
They can't charge as far as I know, only walk into the enemy.

>>148757392
I think they can. Are you charging them in as opposed to telling them to walk? Charging will always fuck their formation

>>148757392

Have you told them to guard and thus maintain formation above all else? You want Orcfags running INTO your spears.

The mongrels will usually do it too.

>>148753994
He said it was less accurate than the Bren.

>>148758323
Isn't that a stupid and meaningless comparison, no matter if it's correct or not?

How the fuck are they going to balance the Beastmen into the existing campaigns?

Empire on Legendary is a fucking shitshow as it is when orcs and dwarves are down your throat turn 6. Coupled with all the Empire/Bretonian factions. They want to add another warband faction? And where the fuck are they putting it?

Darren confirmed on one of his streams that Boris get a unique model doesn't he?

>>148759235
By having one horde in Estalia and the other in the Badlands.

>>148759235
One orc horde might replaced with beastmen and they will otherwise start away from the Empire, if the starting locations for the beastmen are any indication.

>>148759414
I thought they were supposed to be in the forests of the Old World? Now they're fighting Estalians and Orcs?

>>148759507
That's just the mini campaign I believe

>>148759235
>]
>>148759414
>>148759507
>>148759482
They are going to be near middenland

>>148759082
Well he wasn't saying that it made the Bren absolutely superior because he mentioned that it made it less useful for suppressing fire.

>>148760027
No, Beastmen spawns are in Estalia for one LL, Badlands for the other.

>>148760196
Don't mean to be rude but can you give me the source to that?

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Finally completed my first long victory campaign as VC out of the 15 or so I've started. Dwarven genocide best day of my life. Haven't played WoC, Dwarves or Greenskins yet. Out of those three, which campaign/army roster sucks the least?

>>148760098
I'm far from an expert on this, but it sounds like he's talking out of his ass. That's not how suppressing fire works as far as I've heard.

>>148760408
There's a lot of great units in the chaos campaign to play with, but you have to know how to play a horde (something at least half of /twg/ can't do judging from the thread the last weeks).

>>148760381
The official steam page.

>>148757172
That was the first one I bought as well.....was playing LotR not WH though because a mate was into it and bugging me to play.

Always bugged me that he wouldn't be able to swing that axe due to his giant forehead blade

Why does /twg/ hate Lindybeige?

>>148755487
the AI only gets morale bonuses

>>148760408
Chaos is the easiest out of those three and you can win the campaign just with one single stack since their units are pretty good but costly.

>>148755852
>>148761428
hmmm, who do i believe now?

>>148761342
Because Matt Easton is the one true lord and saviour. All others are false prophets.

>>148761434
>playing chaos with only one stack
That would take an insane amount of time. It's also an objectively wrong way of playing.

>>148761770
Campaign difficulty, besides the obvious campaign cheats, does affect only morale when it comes to battles. Battle difficulty affects the other combat stats of NPC units.
When it comes to legendary difficulty, you can't change battle difficulty mid-campaign though. It's stuck at Very Hard.

>>148760442
>>148760442
the bren was a bit too accurate for a lmg, IIRC. they had to wear the barrels down a bit.
still a pretty rugged and reliable weapon.

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Greetings fellow /Beastieboys/

Question: Will the beastmen be able to ally with Chaos or at least have a non-aggression pact?

Or are they immediately hostile post-Archeon emergence like everyone else?

>>148762489
>Battle difficulty affects the other combat stats of NPC units.
see people say that, but they never show any proof, you can find the difficulty modifiers and the only thing there is the leadership buff for the enemy and debuff for your troops

>>148762823
I think we will be able to ally with chaos or even get a diplomacy bonus with them since beastmen are creatures of chaos

>>148759342
yup, and once you take his eye, he wears an eyepatch

>>148763535
That sounds great, should make him much more interesting on the GC too When I topple Karl Franz and crown myself Wolf Emperor.

I'm hoping we get a mod to play as him and the other factions for that campaign, I like the idea of playing one of the Greenskin tribes or Hochland.

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Beastmen are going to be so sick.

A true "hit-and-run" faction. Both on the campaign map, hiding/ambushing/retreating, but also in-battle, flanking, hiding in forests, surrounding...

YES /Beastieboys/!!!

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>>148762823
>Not shitting down Archaons mouth as the Forest pepes
>Not pissing on Kholen Suneater
>Not switching out Sigvalds shampoo and conditioner for cum and doodoo

>>148763874
I do really like the sound of their campaign map stances. Going to have a single hidden horde to act as the money maker, and just send off petty beastlords to distant lands to see how far they can get before getting destroyed.

Then when Archaon and Sarthoreal drop it's all out destruction for the Dark Gods.

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>>148763725
I hope he looks like pic related. Knowing of how CA is lore-friendly ( the beastmen giant is directly from the army book), I'm pretty sure they will do something cool

>>148763874
stopping shilling you stupid fuck

>>148764387
>>148763725
It'll make his presence a lot more felt in the Grand Campaign definitely.

At the moment he's just that generic lord leading the blue Imperials who gets namedropped sometimes and hates you.

After this DLC though he'll be the unique character, with an entire campaign dedicated to his history and lands. His presence will actually be felt.

>>148764306
>hidden moneymaker horde
Oh god yes! The single most annoying thing in Attila as a horde was factions bee-lining for your weak money maker horde.

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>>148764387
>the beastmen giant is directly from the army book

Yep.

I find it weird how all the people critical of this DLC are jumping on CA for being lazy for adding the Giant,data:image/svg+xml,<svg xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg' width='300' height='57'/> when it's actually a part of the Beastmen Roster anyway.

>>148764470
Sh... little /his/fag.

>>148764974
I'm not actually sure where that html code came from.

>>148764757
They Ai doesn't bee-line anymore.

Read the patchnotes once in a while, kiddo.

>>148765275
Which patch notes, and which game are you talking about?

>>148764974

So few armies have units in common, there's absolutely nothing wrong with CA putting them in there, it would be stupid not to when the unit is already in the game and functional.

Maybe if CA does something like, I don't know, giving Ogres copypasted goblins instead of Gnoblars, I could see accusations of being lazy as legitimate.

But so far it's complete bullshit, compared to Rome II and Attila where most of the factions are copy-pasted spearmen there is a fuckton of work put into the factions in this game.

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>>148764974
yeah, too bad the model didn't have bigger horns

On my second, old PC, my GPU died - HD5670. Considering to buy new GPU to allow play Attila smoothly and on satisfying level - ~60FPS on 1080 resolution, graphic details doesn't matter really.

Is Radeon R7 260x "just enough" to run Atilla Total War smoothly? It has considerable low price.
Same price as R7 250x.
R7 265 is 1,5 times expensive, so its a NO.
I am thinking about R7 250, but I might go a little subpar here.

512MB of video RAM was unbearable here.
So either I need 1GB or 2GB. I guess 2GB is just safe, as I can go between 1-2 GB while running huge scale battles.

>>148765576

Just get a 970 you dumdum

They're amazing value for money right now

>>148765480
TW:WH and the latest ones.

They used Chaos as an example

>>148765694
>actually telling someone to get 3.5 + 0.5 970
He would be better off with a 1060

>>148765694
>970
My new one got 960 and I still believe is more than I should get.
Besides it is for older PC (AM2+), so I just want to find "just enough" card. 970 are still expensive here in Poland

>>148765868
I haven't played a horde since then, so I haven't experienced it. I'll have to try, because guarding against that shit was annoying. I'm gonna remain skeptical until I see it though.

>>148762852
What the hell does battle difficulty even do then? Leadership buffs/debuffs seem to be tied to campaign difficulty. Changing battle difficulty mid-campaign seems to have absolutely no effect until Very Hard where it finally does affect leadership.
Is that a bug or something?

Why is magic the most boring part about warhammer? All of the spells from each lore look extremely identical, and do the same thing.

asides from one or two spells, every lore feels the same, whats the point?

>>148765694
>Not just waiting until the GTX 1060 or AMD RX 480 for high-performing budget cards
Just gotta wait a week or two and you get better performance for about the same price.

>>148766783
Because CA cannot into creative magic.

>>148766783
They didn't make a new system for spells, they just used the artillery/projectile system, so the result is samey and boring.

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Fuck the devil archers, somehow they complete anihilate by cataphract archers despite having nearly the same damage and much lower armour, I guess the bastards have higher firing rate

>>148766783
yeah I was dissapointed by it too, extremely underwhelming, even the useful spells dont feel interesting

>>148766783
They said they didn't want to break the total war gameplay, so Magic is just here for support

>>148767170
If you're on a higher difficulty I think all the enemies get a rof-buff. But Devil Archers are bullshit anyway.

>>148766783

Some of the spells from the tabletop would be really fucking bizarre and just wouldn't work in a game like this.

Like, on the tabletop Gehenna's Golden Hounds is a character sniping spell where you summon magical dogs that drag the target away.

How the fuck would you show that? Much less the problem of having a long range character instakill spell.

So they made it a pretty looking AoE spell instead.

Magic is a lot of fun to use as long as you remember to install Molay's Spells and Artifacts.

is there a way to play dorfs that isn't quarrelers x ironbreakers?

>>148767939
>Molay's Spells and Artifacts

what that do

>>148768281

Makes the spells do more damage than a wet fart and greatly increases how much magic you have access to.

Also changes around a few character skills and buffs the magic items you get from stats.

If you want magic to have any kind of real impact then it's fucking essential.

>>148767970
Yeah, throw in a couple of grudge throwers and thunderers, or do lore armies only (for fun)

>>148767939
Personally I prefer Cataphs version or Sinj's spells. The items in Molay's mod are way too strong.

>>148768281

thoughts on this?


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=724877318

>>148768281
Rebalances magic as much as possible within modding restrictions. Casters have ways to increase the Winds reserve in their skill tree so bringing a second or third caster into an army isn't a retarded idea. Vortexes and Bombardment spells aren't completely awful, while Direct Damage and Buffs aren't so strong.

Also makes the legendary quest items of the LL's much stronger and more unique (perhaps a bit too strong).

>>148767970

You can play basically any way you want you big baby, the game isn't that hard so there's really no need to play with the absolute most optimal army compositions at all times.

>>148768734
Cataph's version rebalances the lord items

>>148768720

[Profuse vomiting]

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>>148768720
Not enough lasers.