/tesog/ - The Elder Scrolls Online General

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Lies

How useful is being a vampire or werewolf? I see people selling bites and I had a bone vampire or some such smacking me around in one of those little daedra portals.

>>148673869
Vamp is really nice for the regen passive, and the abilities are strong in PvP, they're alright in PvE I guess, nothing special.

WW is either broken-tier cancer or worthless shit-tier in PvP depending on who you fight and who you believe, in PvE it's the highest DPS you can get without VMA weapons as a stam character.

>>148673869
it can be useful in certain builds, but they also have drawbacks. like increased received fire damage for vampires, and poison for werewolves.

>I had a bone vampire or some such smacking me around
that won't do it. Only special spawns located in each factions last zone not coldharbour can infect. Or another player.

>>148674329
but after that initial burst you're shit out of luck in pve

>>148674329

Ah so if I'm looking at PvE DPS I should probably buy a werewolf bite at some point? Most builds I look at slot the form somewhere.

>>148674654
Different anon. Don't pay more than a couple thousand if you do end up buying one. It's not all that great in PvE to be honest (and I'm playing a stam build). It's cool to have and fun to use and screw around with but not at all necessary. There're also a lot of people that will give you a bite for free, especially guildies.

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Victory, thy name is Cadwell!

Are Magplars fun?

I'm lvl 25 now and the slowness of lvling is killing me. I like to level fast so I can try out different characters, before anyone starts with the slow down & enjoy the quests posts..

How much does a full training set go for? Does it matter what lvl it is if I go grind in upscaled areas?

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>tfw just crafter Magnus + Torug sets for my 16 lvl magplar for Cyrodiil
>tfw masterfully crafted a blue shield glyph for dagger and a disease one for staff
feels satisfying man

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When will ZOS nerf veteran Maelstrom arena?
OR
I would be pleased if the final chest had 100% chance to drop maelstrom weapon

>>148673206
Cool! I guess I have a good reason to actually level my assassin so she can go to the places she needs to complete the Litany.

>>148676526
>When will ZOS nerf veteran Maelstrom arena?

Fuck off, shitter.

>I would be pleased if the final chest had 100% chance to drop maelstrom weapon

This makes sense though, there is no reason for it not to 2bh, especially as they increased the number of droppable traits.

>>148676526
Maelstrom is ez, but for fucks sake if I get another 2h in my weekly I will go insane.

>>148673869
I've seen people kicked from veteran pledge groups for being a vampire because of the extra fire damage they take, and fire being 80% of damage dealt by mobs in PvE.

>>148677506
Surprise! Some people are retarded and need any possible explaination for why it isn't their fault that the group wiped. The most extra fire damage taken is 25% at stage 4 and even then you can evade like 75% of fire attacks.

>>148674453
>but after that initial burst you're shit out of luck in pve

Then you just need better sustain. I mean desu my main stam character is a NB, and siphoning attacks persist after transformation. You can use potions after transformation, and even heavy attack weave a bit. If you are running out of stam really fast, you're just doing it wrong.

>>148677506
>kicked from veteran pledge groups for being a vampire because of the extra fire damage they take

except, you know.. you can just go to them fed and receive no extra damage

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>>148676260
pls rate my new stats :33
I feel that amount of magicka won't be possible later on due to battle leveling stealin' at mah attributes

>>148679271
also need to change that mundus stone

>>148679271
>:33
>eyes and character name censored
Otherwise keep it up.

>>148679548
w-what's wrong with :3

>>148679271

>censoring eyes

now why would you do that?

I understand censoring the name but why the eyes

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>>148677506
>I've seen people kicked from veteran pledge groups for being a vampire because of the extra fire damage they take, and fire being 80% of damage dealt by mobs in PvE.
I was about to post a smug anime girl with the text "sure you have" but there's a lot of retards in this game so I wouldn't be surprised.

>>148679819
Because he's a disgusting avatar faggot.

>>148676526
vMA don't need nerfing, it's the droprates that's ludicrous.

>>148677506

Yeah Vamps seem like a hefty tradeoff. I've barely done dungeons a lot of shit seems avoidable and I'd imagine the Dunmer passives reduce the drawbacks of vampirism by a little.

Going werewolf as stam dps seems like the common choice. Is it worth it getting bit legit? Am I robbing myself of an experience paying for a bite?

>>148679819
because I thought it looked funny along with the censored name
am I autistic?
>>148680085
I only posted my character once

>>148681834
>am I autistic?
without doubt

>>148681320
>Am I robbing myself of an experience paying for a bite?

Not a huge amount, but you're robbing yourself of a whole load of crowns for something you can easily get ingame. I mean there's being a good goy and then there's being wasteful.

>>148683670

I'm in east march now, if it's that easy to get I'll go do it without paying. I'll probably be in the rift tomorrow.

>>148673869
I can't speak for PvP, but in PvE WW is amazing. As has been mentioned its DPS is nuts, and if you keep devouring corpses you can keep it going for a long fucking time before being forced to revert back.

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Any tips to a magNB tank? What's my bread and butter tanking skills?

How often do motifs drop at Golden Coast? I heard that it's every 6 hours per boss who drops it. I only need the gloves, head, and belt for the armor motifs

I just started playing, and have been dicking around as a DW Templar who focuses on casting spells, splitting my points between magicka and stamina. I'm able to level just fine, but how long will it be before I run into people who will sperg out in dungeons for me likely not being an approved playstyle?

>>148689893
Splitting magicka/stamina is shit.
You shouldn't run into any serious problems until level 50 with veteran dungeons because normal dungeons are easy af and 99% of solo content allows you to use whatever you want. DW as a Templar is actually meta on high level, just decide on magicka or stam and you should be fine.

>>148689893
Normal dungeons? Probably never outside of White-Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison (not even sure people will bitch there either), unless your whole group is pretty inexperienced, then there may be bitching about the dungeon taking forever to complete and people may bay due to that.

Veteran dungeons? Whenever you run a dungeon with any kind of dps race.

>>148690625
I understand how going all stamina as DW makes sense, but how would going all magicka work?

>>148690808
Because Zenimax is retarded, two swords give you more spell-damage than a staff. So having two swords while spamming your class skills do more damage than if you're holding a staff.

>>148690919
Got it. Thanks anon!

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>>148691045
no problem, however remember that you restore resources with heavy attacks. A heavy attack with DW don't restore magicka while a heavy attack with a staff does, so even if you're stronger you may have problems with resources. But if you're already playing a DW casting spells I'm sure you've already noticed it.

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>>148687250
Here's my build:

5 piece Kags (chest & legs infused tri-stat, belt & gloves nirnhoned mag, boots reinforced mag), 2 piece Engine Guardian (head infused tri-stat, shoulder divines), 3 piece Willpower jewelry (2 healthy 1 arcane, all spell damage enchanted), 2 piece Hist Bark 1h/s (for the physical resist, as I'm Breton) on both bars. I use tri-stat food and tri-pots.

The main skills to concentrate on are, in order of importance, as follows:

0: Bolstering Darkness this shit is OP af.

1: Taunt - This part is obvious, you need to taunt the mobs. I use Inner Rage, as NB lacks the chains of DK for mob re-positioning and pulling mobs that spawn in fights where you don't want the boss to move (like Serpent in SO).

2: Major & Minor Resolve/Ward - As a mag NB, you get the major ones from Shadow Barrier for 11 seconds when you cast Refreshing Path, and the minor ones from Mirage. Mirage also gives you Major Evasion, which is huge, and most other mag tanks don't have access to without burning fuckloads of stam/using Hist Bark 5-piece.

3: Stat sustain - Siphoning Attacks + proper weaving, no more to say honestly.

4: HP Sustain - Refreshing Path and Swallow Soul are the main HOTs you use. Refreshing Path also gives you your resist buffs, so is absolutely invaluable. In big mob pulls, spam Sap Essence to heal yourself + everyone around you to full every time you cast.

5: Damage - As a NB tank, you can actually do (a little) damage, and your HOTs rely on your spell damage and max magicka. Structured Entropy is a must, the passive HP and active Major Sorcery + heal is too good. Inner Light is also vital. I light attack weave Swallow Soul whenever I'm not buffing myself, generally getting around 8k DPS. Impale is also nice to have on your back bar.

Your bar setup is up to you, just remember that you want Entropy+Inner Light on your front bar for their passives + the Mages Guild passives.

Pic related is my stats when buffed (without undaunted passive atm though).

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> Obsidian wants to makes an Elder Scrolls game
> Bethesda won't let them work on the main series
What if Obsidian was in charge of a huge as fuck DLC to ESO?

>>148691393
Also it's lovely to nuke people with staff attack/crushing shock weaving

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>>148691891
Thanks m8, recently levelled up a NB thanks to the removal of veteran ranks and I've been look for inspiration on how to build it and your post is brilliant.

Over the seas and over the lane
For Ayrenn, Edhelorn and Mane
The lords command and we obey
Over the seas and far away

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First for Redguard best race.

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Just hit 50, got a few champ levels and finishing up last story quest. What's the first step in getting geared at this point?

>>148695926
I hope you've been researching those traits boyo...

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>>148695926
How many traits have you researched in clothing, blacksmith and carpentry? Surely you've done as /tesog/ tells all new players, to research as much as possible as soon as possible?

>>148697921
Not him, I've been doing this and speccing into the research faster/more talents as well as doing the crafting dailies. I don't have a lot unlocked to be honest. Mostly just shitty armor modifications. Am I aiming for certain ones?

>>148696141
>>148697921
Several unlocked so far, none in woodworking since I don't need it as stamina nightblade. So should I start working on crafting now?

>>148698745
Not really since you haven't reached 160. That's when you've reached the endgame since the best gear are at cp160, and there's little to no reason to bother with crafting (outside of doing daily writs and researching) before cp160.

>>148698267
Depends on what you're planning to craft. Sturdy if it's for tanking, anti-crit if you're looking for PvP.

>>148701732

Thanks I'll snag ensure I have those two unlocked cross the board. What about stam pve dps?

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>>148702393
I would say precise for weapons, heightening your critical chance, but some would say sharpened, increased spell and physical penetration. The reason I'm unsure about sharpened in PvE is because a tank already debuffs the enemy's armour and spell resistance so even more may be wasted.

For armour it's infused, making your enchantments on said armour stronger. If you're a stamina dps you'll be slapping on enchantments giving you more stamina on your armour, due to bigger stamina pool = more damage from stamina abilities. Infused only strengthens this.

>>148705168
I think currently with sharpened ignoring 5000 worth of resistances (previously was 20%?), sharpened is better for DPS.

Also all divines armor is currently better than infused for PvE DPS with thief mundus and max CPs.

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>>148709990
Yea you're probably right, I should have said that other annons should give their input since I'm somewhat unsure.

>>148693514
Then Clockwork whispered long and low...
And what he said no mortal may know...

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Who would want this? Magicka tanks?

>>148715062
it's terrible for anything

Does anyone's client bug out when in windowed fullscreen mode preventing you from alt tabbing? Seems to happen to me randomly

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> Next patch will change it so you're guaranteed a weapon for clearing vMSA
> GUARANTEED

>>148715956
S-source, senpai?

>>148715330
A lot of people on the pts talks about how it's OP and how every magicka user will run with it but I don't see how. It's a shittier Julianos.

>>148715062
It's a really good PvP set. Magicka users would love the massive regen.

>>148715956
Source? This is amazing, would actually get me to grind it.

Should I get this game? I really want to play some MMOs again.

>>148715956
i remember talking to kuscoe about this
apparently it's mainly due to eso forum qq

>>148719267
lel what changes aren't mainly due to eso forum qq.

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>>148719024
>It's a really good PvP set. Magicka users would love the massive regen.
Fair enough.

Which morph do damage dealers choose for meteor? The one that gives back more ultimate per enemy hit or the one with added damage?

>>148721840
Ice Comet for PvP, Shooting Star for PvE.

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""""""Argonian"""""" Skeleton

>>148722326
Fugg, I do pve and pvp

Guess I'll just choose shooting star

Ty anon

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Confession time. I just ninjad some guy's lockbox - he was picking it and I was waiting for him to fail so I get a crack, but he closed the box to presumably make space for the 2 greens in there. I took the contents without needing to pick. Felt kind of bad. Briefly.

>>148676013
Anyone?

Still pretty new to the game and wanting to try a pve templar healer out. Any tips? Also destruction is the only viable secondary weapon I'm assuming?

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What the fuck is going on in Azura's Star on PC EU. I played yesterday and AD and DC was besieging one of our forts, the same wall, side by side. Then AD rushes in towards us like a meatshield. DC just waits behind. Once we've taken out most of the AD players and have fuck all left to protect, a huge DC zerg just crushes us.

>>148676013
>>148723126
I made a full set of training gear for someone for 4k, after having previously make a set for the same guy for free. As for its level mattering, the closer to your lvl the better your scaled stats will be, but if you're just after the %increase in exp, not really.

>>148723312
DC got their balls back, EP running scared, which keep was this at?

>>148723357
Damn thanks anon that is totally affordable. Any tips on how to get it then? Just go to capital and ask for it?

>>148673138
Is ESO a good game?

>>148723567
nobody knows

>>148723491
Yea ask for someone able to craft 6/8 traits in the armour/weapon type you want in capital or rawlkha. Also chances are someone in your guild can do it.

>>148723567
Idk

>>148723567
wrong place to ask

>>148723567
Yep, it's pretty good.

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>>148723567

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>>148723367
Wasn't EP running scared as much as getting crushed by a Green army. But I'm not complaining, these unholly alliances between DC and AD keeps the map fresh and balanced. DC have always had their own balls intact while keeping AD's in a purse. Can't remember the keep.

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>>148723567
What kind of a question is that?

>>148725541
well the 5 emperor keeps are fair gain

>>148725797
6*

>>148723567
It's a game version of Schödingers cat. It's both dead and alive, contra-intuitive, and most normal people have a misinterpretation of it.

>>148723567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s88r_q7oufE

>join random dungeon queue
>2 hours later still nothing

Cool game you guys.

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>>148726103
>contra-intuitive

>>148726761
>DD problems

>>148727023
Even in a completely dead MMO like Wildstar I don't have to wait 2 hours.

>>148726761
>>148727074
There's something wrong with the group finder tool, and has been for a while. Some people have no problems I usually don't have to wait longer than 30 min and some, like you, wait forever. ZOS can't seem to fix it, because people are complaining about it for a long time now. I imagine it's not a simple bug, but something fundamentally wrong with the system.

Point is - don't use group finder tool. Find or put together a group through zone chat. Takes 5 minutes.

>>148727231
That daily reward seems pretty fucking neato though.

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>>148726957
> Charging a heavy attack with a huge-ass sword doesn't drain stamina but restores it
> Spells do more damage by equipping two axes instead of a staff
> You can put poison on your staffs
> Everything involving gapcloser since the Dark Brotherhood update

>>148727074
Still a DD problem since there's so many unique snowflakes who don't have a thought out build so they queue as "damagedealer" because they can't tank or heal. Queuing as a tank gives you a group instantly, at the very top 2 minutes waiting time if it's around 3-4 in the morning.

>>148727326
>Still a DD problem since there's so many unique snowflakes who don't have a thought out build so they queue as "damagedealer" because they can't tank or heal. Queuing as a tank gives you a group instantly, at the very top 2 minutes waiting time if it's around 3-4 in the morning.

My buddy is a tank and has to wait 50+ minutes. Also tanking and healing hasn't got anything to do with a "thought out build", in most cases those builds are way easier than optimizing your DPS and I say that as someone who tanked in a lot of MMOs by now.

>>148727231
It spergs when there's too many people using it. If it shows you an estimated time when hovering over the role symbol you're good, if not then you're fucked, go shout in /zone-chat.

>>148727326
>imfuckingplying tank or healer builds are complex in ANY MMO

And I say that as someone who plays a healer in almost every game.

>>148727231
>>148726761
Get some fucking guilds, seriously using group finder is cancer, like not even the wait as I play tank but the people that use it are fucking walking aids.

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mfw healer not using repentance

>>148727508
It shows ">1 hour" no matter what I do so I guess it's fucked?

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>>148727439
> My buddy is a tank and has to wait 50+ minutes.
I stand corrected.

>Also tanking and healing hasn't got anything to do with a "thought out build", in most cases those builds are way easier than optimizing your DPS and I say that as someone who tanked in a lot of MMOs by now.

I don't mean to say that tank or healers have more complex builds, in fact I agree that it's harder to optimize a good dps build than a healer or tank, but there's a lot of people playing the game who want to experiment with wacky builds, and these people are almost guaranteed to queue as damage-dealers.

I've seen way more pet sorceres who use a bow or people running around with a gigantic axe while wearing a skirts than someone trying to tank with a staff or running a stamina-based healer.

>>148727326
>contra

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>>148727729
>Another healer not using Siphon Spirit
>Mfw

guild tabard voting stage 2 is a go

>primary color
http://www.strawpoll.me/10767660

>crest style
http://www.strawpoll.me/10767664

>>148729281
Is that for the NA or EU guild you fucking retard?

>>148729720
unno

>>148729720
both

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Six0 pls

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>>148729224
> Healer expects me to do fuck all without providing minor intellect

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>>148730250
Know your place, senpai

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>>148731076

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So will these dye packs really cost just 1 crown? If so, then it's actually not that bad of a deal, if you don't want ESO+, but want to dye costumes.

>>148731925
no, that's just on PTS so you can test them.

guys, what do you do in the endgame in this game? is the pvp enjoyable? what about the pve content?

>>148732082
farm dungeons until you get the armor piece with the trait that you want so you can finally uninstall

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Get your EU Tabard now!

Subject to change.

>>148732082
I mostly just PvP. It's pretty good, and very much skill based. Cookie cutter OP builds will only get you so far, if you're shit. A player who knows what he's doing can take on 10, even 20 other players who aren't so good and win. And then lose to the next guy who also knows what he's doing in a 1v1.

PvE is solid, but nothing too amazing. vMA can fuck right off though. It's a decent challange, but the reward system needs to be reworked.

>>148732972
>not even 4chin colours

So when do you think zos will cave in and start selling maelstrom weapons for gold

>>148733198
>wanting disgusting neon green clashing with everything and anything
do you even /fa/?
no you don't, get home

>>148733020
every vma runner will go through the 5 stages if they're dedicated to it

denial > anger > bargaining > depression > acceptance

acceptance is where you're flawless and speedrunning just for a fun time.

>>148733851
>wanting a generic edgy looking black tabard
nice guild

>>148734141
Bet you're the kind of faggot who wears plastic orange, purple-red and baby blue just because that's what you get from vCoA, vICP and vWGT.

>>148734141
>black
carefully selected glossy grey I'll have you know

Still better than the meme trash you would pick, probably green and purple daily dose with goatse on the front, if they let you up load graphics, because you know XDD lele random anonmoose army

>>148733832
If, and that's a huge if, it's done, it will be a more extreme version of the Golden.
> Once per month at a random day at a random city in Cyrodiil
> Factions have to fight over her, only one faction will be able to buy from her at a time
> 9 million gold per weapon

>>148735806
That tabard does look generic as hell though.

>>148736078
I just whipped it up for the fucks, they'll be a real one coming at some point once everyone voted and shit on it. At least the caused discussion and we now know what not to aim for.

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How about 4 squares and the daedric letter for C?

>>148735806
that would actually be a great tabard

>>148736510
Is the C for Cock or what.

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>>148735806
>XDD
I thought TESOG EU approved of "XDD lele"

>>148736789
chin

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>>148736860
TESOG EU is a finnish guild

Why not something that's white and red? They go really well together.

>>148727775
No that actually still means it works. When it's broken the bottom part with any time is just missing, the window ends below "Roles are used to create balanced group for certain activities".

>>148737193
Deus Vult
t. Templar

When they gonna buff MagSorcs

>>148738428
Magsorcs don't really need a buff as much as an overhaul.

>>148738639
>Sorcerer
>can summon Daedra
>only a baby tricerotops and some winged titty harpy shit
>Storm Atronach is a temporary Ult and doesn't even follow you

I chose this class for my first character because I usually play mages and god damn was I disappointed. So glad I rerolled Templar before I hit 30 and got too far into the game.

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I don't get Cadwell's Silver/Gold. The explanation was nothing. It clearly can't be happening after the main story, since the timeline wouldn't make sense. So is this like an alternate reality, or are we traveling in time, or is that like a "vision" and not ACTUALLY happening? WHAT IS GOING ON?!

>>148741904
lucid dreams.

>>148731925
>>148731976
It's 50 crowns

Should I even bother with doing the previous day's pledges if I still have the quests?

>>148741904
You get sent back in time which creates a parallel reality, so you technically do all three alliance quest lines at the exact same time.

The main quest, mages and fighters guild quests are separate from this parallel reality so they happen once and remain constant.

It's daedric shenanigans, they don't gotta explain shit.

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>>148742848
Here's something next time you use that line of explanation

>wayshrines
allows you instantaneously travel through Nirn, to and from Oblivion, AND through time

>>148743334
>>148742848
Luckily Cadwell's gold and silver will be removed with One Tamriel.

>>148742848
It's not really parallel realities since you later encounter people from both sides and all of them act as they know you.

So while you were doing the mainquest for your faction, you simultaneously did it for the other factions as well because magic.

>>148743832
>everything is scaled
>cp501's able to kill vWGT the same as a lv 30
Disappointing.

>>148744535
That's because you've made a name for yourself in new lands while keeping your old name in the homeland through the power of time traveling magic.

Although it is also explicitly stated that your reputation will be foregone and your identity will be masked once you leave the homeland.

What a clusterfuck

>>148745062
you go do that friendo, yeah you go kill molag kena at level 30 in vWGT, I'm a sit here and watch :^)

>>148745370
Don't worry, i'll sit back 'n let the 501 dudes do shit while i play healer
And i meant cp30. Whether or not you could figure that is not my concern.

>>148745595
>say cp501
>say lv(l) 30
>no you're retarded, not me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZlzhCtA_84
remember hips low, chest over your knees but you've got the technique down to a tee anyway.

Suggestions on making money for a new player? I tried harvesting wood but had to stop because I don't fuck with yew.

>>148747736
steal shit

>>148747736
>that pun
I like yew, anon.

But like the other anon said, stealing is a good and easy way to make money as a newbie. Have a character decent at sneaking, break into a locked home and steal things in containers. It's not really worth it to bother with random swords lying around or whatever, they'll be like 10-20g each, while the special items that appear in containers and NPC inventories (when pickpocketing them, or looting them after killing them with the Dark Brotherhood's Blade of Woe) go for 40 at the minimum, with some being 100-250g a pop. There might even be a safebox inside a locked building which is just more money.

You can also just kind of quest. That's less money but honestly you don't need a lot of money starting out. 10K for a horse is the only real early-game expenditure I can think of.

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Today's guild meeting.
One DC guy is missing from these pictures for some reason.

>>148747007
>make one error
>this is the only thing you can latch onto
You sure got me bud.

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>>148751240
And 2nd picture with mounts.

Should I use frost touch on my Maggblar? I'm kinda tempted as the javelin already knocks back just like the flame touch and I could add a free root to that.

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>>148673138
can we talk about PVP tanking, and different builds/classes for it? i have seen DK tanks in sieges take on 10-15 people while staying alive with absolutely no trouble at all. how do i get this power? and what gear do i need?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Q3odRKeaw

https://youtu.be/g8Pvabq9Fso?t=80

https://youtu.be/bIIZ7tEnsa0?t=44

https://youtu.be/TpQ2ug9UaF4?t=639

>>148747736
steal in cities, sell to fence
take the legerdemain skill so you can sell even more
also join a trading guild, I sell all the shit I don't need from pvp and even item sets of like level 20 get sold for 300 gold

>>148751240
>>148751584
Well shit character names are missing.

>>148752132
Dunno much about it, but I'm sure you would want heavy armor with all impenetrable trait. Some morph of reflective scales and armor, the earthen heart ult makes you take a max of only 3% of max health from all incoming attacks for a while. Vigor would probably be your main heal. Dunno what else you might run, probably a few damage things and maybe a way to get more stam like dragon blood or the earthen heart shield w/ passive.

I'm sure you can find a build that'll give you a decent idea on Tamriel Foundy.

>>148752132
They only get to kill shitters, I've fought them they just stack defence and just shit out bats and stuff, while the all the dumbases focus them and the rest of the zerg they are tanking for roll in and do all the damage.

>>148673138
i'm reinstalling ESO right now, and i'm thinking about starting a healer character. How does the healing compare to other games? I haven't done it before in ESO.

>>148754959
You're expected at endgame to pull dps, I mean obviously not as much as the DD's but you don't sit there and just heal.

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>>148673138
If skooma, other lore drugs, and even diseases were available to players in this game, what effects would you give them?

>>148761609
>skooma, other lore drugs
Decrease damage taken, reduce hit chance, induce hallucinations.

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Really love how this game handles shadows

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actual tiny spoilers

High Kinlady Estre is in Coldharbour, because she somehow failed Molag Bal

But didn't she make a deal with Mehrunes Dagon, not Molag Bal?

>>148764660
Speaking of skooma, I would add these too
-Increase movement speed
-Increase stamina&magicka cost of abiliteis.
There probably should be some kind of "light" version for RP and housing.

>>148771353
>High Kinlady Estre is
This questline was hilarious.

>>148771353
She also made a pact with Molag Bal and Mannimarco. I guess Dagon and Bal had an argument about her or some shit.

>>148772116
I don't recall anything like this from her quest. Where was this mentioned?

>>148771353
There's a cave near firsthold with notes describe how she allied with Mannimarco (and thus M Bal) and basically tries to keep the daedric princes from knowing about the pact with the other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU0xnpP3D60

Time to kick Molag Bal's face in.

>>148736510
>>148736789
4CHiM

>>148741904
Goddamn, Cadwells shit pisses me off to no end. It makes NO sense, no matter how you look at it.

You can still use wayshrines to travel between other faction zones and your own. Does that mean wayshrines can transport you not only in space, but in time as well? Or if you argue that it's a parallel reality, can they transport you between fucking realities?! Don't get me started on using wayshrines to travel between Nirn and Coldharbour

When doing other faction quests, like for example >>148771353, you already know all about Estre if you've made it through the MQ, and yet when you meet her in cadwell's silver/gold, you have no idea that she's the Veiled Queen. In fact, you don't remember any single character that you previously met.

Nothing about it makes sense. In-game explanation is a nonexplanation.

One Tamriel can't come soon enough.

Hey guys, so I'm level 49 and just about 50, but I want to grind out Fighters Guild rep after I finish Coldharbour. Is there a good delve or area I could use to grind it up? I have them about level 6 I believe. This game is too comfy

>>148779485
Dolmens give FG rep.

>>148772116

I like that you can Free her and she has a house in Hollow City and sometimes hangs out in the tavern

>>148779485
Quarantine serk (if you are not EP) in Deshaan, there is a cave with zombies. Just mass murder poor plague victims in the name of JUSTICE.

Dolmens are shit for leveling FG, doing ALL dolmens only gave me like 2 FG levels. (5->7)

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WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN BROTHEL??

>>148781672
Sweet. Thanks!

>>148779485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmpBVt7k64A
This is best place

>>148782125
As EP, there's an area on the beach slightly east of the Sentinel docks in All'Akir worked wonders for me. Went from 9-10 in an about an hour farming that with another guy. It's technically still in Sentinel, just north of Scholar's Way.

Camel or a lion for a Redguard mount?

>>148782803
For my House Dres Dunmer I'm going to get a Khajiit mount. Just like in the old days.

>>148782803
Camel. Or gray Yokudan Charger horse when it comes back to the crown store.

>>148782481
Oh, thats fantastic, actually. Thanks!

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Why can't Germans roleplay in English!?

>>148788239
Maybe they're roleplaying as Germans.

>>148788239
Because Germans are all scum.

No exceptions.

Why am I not getting the legerdemain skill line? I've stolen a lot of stuff, picked a pocket and picked a lot of locks, but no skill line.

daaaamn after gearing up I fucking love magicka templar in PvP. It feels extremely strong, even without final skills. I can both dish big damage and survive with those glorious heals and sustain. Sorcerers were a nuisance but just got Defensive Posture and it's much better. :3

>>148790965

... are you sure you don't have it? it's under world

What do people heal as? I get the whole everything is viable thing but do you see nightblade or dk healers often?

>>148791242
Oh, that sneaky skill line was hiding from me.

>>148791269
Templar is the most natural healer. If you want to be a "healer" and not just heal on the side you want to be a templar.

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>>148792568
>If you want to be a "healer" and not just heal on the side you want to be a templar.
Didn't knew the resto staff was exclusive to templars.

Should I put 100 points into Mighty (Magicka CP tree) or should I split some points off into Precise Strikes as well? Stam Sorc build. Theres diminishing returns isnt there?

>>148793830

resto staff is a bit lacking for burst heals. Healing shield is about it, I guess the frontal cone heal is okay, but kind of weak.

I'm doing the sacraments for the dark brotherhood. How are you supposed to kill animal side objectives without getting caught?

>>148791037
alright this is brutal
I dueled with those DC fags (all high alliance rank below 50 level) and lost every time. Most of it lasted a bit but ehhh
I wish I had a pro buddy who'd tell me why I'm losing that particular fight

>make new character
>level to 10
>realize I forgot to change the voice so now he sounds retarded
This keeps happening.

>>148803831
My main sounds like a 14yo boy. I didn't notice until it was much too late. ZOS will have my crowns if they let me change this.

>>148797614
If the templars burst heal is what makes or break it being the only class that can be a healer then a sorc is a better option since the burst heal from the twilight is stronger than the templars bol.

>>148811009

templars have aoe burst heals, Sorcs do not.

>>148803831
>tfw made a tiny cat mage
>forgot to change voice
>start doing some enchanting
>super deep voice that sounds like it belongs on some big bara cat like that one on the second DC starter island

Feels wrong. I can probably change it with the recustomization thing that's coming out soon (haven't tested that yet on the PTS, I really should) but those will probably be pricey and that's (likely) a lot of money for a voice change.

>>148812658
*tiny cat mage paw-five*

Luckily I tested my voice out first. I like the second one, not too high pitched since khajiit kind of have deeper voices in general.

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>>148812584
Aren't rushed ceremony the only burst heal templars have, or are we stretching the definition of burst to not mean instant?

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>>148813876
>*tiny cat mage paw-five*

Fucking Khajits everyone.

>go to sleep pretty early
>wake up
>think to myself "well shit, didn't sleep that well"
>look at clock
>slept for almost 12 hours straight

Am I gonna die?

Is it worth picking this game up now? Or am I going to be leveling solo for 40 levels like every other MMO over 1 yr old?

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> Banished cells gold pledge
> "Sounds like fun, fairly easy dungeon unless you're retarded"

I've played with 5 groups and I've had to bail at the end every time, either because someone don't know how to play their class and think taunting as a dps is the hip cool thing to do, don't know the dungeon and don't speak english, or because dps shitters keep killing the daedroths because god forbid you'd ever encounter a templar that doesn't spam puncturing strike.

Even better when I put someone on ignore yet get grouped with the same fuckface moments later. Fuck everything.

>>148816449
<Kitty Titties> says: hey who here is feeling yaffy *raises paw* X3

>>148816449
>>148818096
how about a *bishu qara rishajiit teno-vu*?

>>148817698
>can't solo banished.jpg

>>148816383

by burst I mean any heal that is not over time. They give a big amount of health in one single heal.

>>148817403
It's more of a journey and taking your time with the quests than rushing to endgame.

>>148817403
It's a bigger chance you're gonna be annoyed by the amount of people around you. You're on an epic quest to take down an evil werewolf while some dude run around in circles before the boss because he's farming pelts.

>>148824178
I took a look at 4 reviews on youtube (sorted for date so they're all recent) and the consistent complaint between them is boring quests (3/4 said this) and economy issues (typical of MMOs)

Mediocre graphics from 2004, sound design all over the place. Actual combat looks nice enough but that's only one small part of a larger place. I think I'll skip this one. One guy gave it 6/10 and this is 2 years post release with updates and content additions... 6/10 is a pathetic score considering those factors.

>>148825045
k lol

>>148825045
So what are you looking to play anyway? An MMO? You're just gonna get biased responses from here; for what it's worth you can play ESO for $20 with no sub, and for the content provided I think that's pretty worth it.

>>148826126
Currently downloading temple of elemental evil

I liked morrowind, liked oblivion, hated skyrim, wanted to know TESO had been improved since the days of Rustled Jose's review years ago, unfortunately while there have been improvements it still looks like a generic MMO just with a better combat system (NWN did this too).

As for MMOs I used to play EVE for years so complexity isn't a problem but I'm getting older now and I don't feel like squandering my time farming shit for nebulous reasons. At least in EVE mining and other 'farming' activities always had a tangible point, compared to mining in WOW where most shit you can make in terms of professions was useless unless you were at level 70+.

>>148826454
Problem with me comparing ESO with other MMOs is that I've only played up to lvl 20 wow.

They fixed everything angry joe complained about (as if they made a list after they watched his video). I don't think he's a very good reviewer of games anyway (too bombastic). I still don't think the ESO quests are anything to write home about but by this standard a lot of elder scrolls quests aren't very good. There are occasional moments of brilliance, and I like the added lore, but mechanically they aren't terribly complicated.

They do a good job of putting elder scrolls things in the game, like stealing and voiced dialogue for everything. Crafting system is good, most top tier gear is can be crafted. Combat like you said is excellent, best of the whole ES series imo. I enjoyed pvp as well. Maelstrom arena was the most challenging experience I've had in any game.

You might like the secret world better since I think their quests are the least generic of all MMOs, requiring detective work and suchlike.

If your concern is time spent farming, I can't really comment on that because I can't predict whether you'd find the gameplay of ESO fun and worth your time or not.

>>148828081
>You might like the secret world better since I think their quests are the least generic of all MMOs, requiring detective work and suchlike.

Another anon jumping in here to affirm that TSW has some fucking awesome questing. The combat is a bit boring and dry though, which is a shame. Nice synergies and mechanical meatiness to it, but not.. terribly impressive looking. But if you can get past that, I'd definitely look into it.

That said, I like ESO's questing as well. They vary things up decently enough, and a lot of quests actually have an affect on the world due to phasing, so you actually see the results of doing things - or your choices, if the quest involved a choice.

>>148825045
>I took a look at 4 reviews on youtube
Look, I can't say if you'll like the game, but what I can say is that I'm so damn glad I didn't listen to the reviews and tried it out anyway.

>>148791269
I never understood why people watched reviewers talk about a game instead of watching gameplay with no commentary and deciding for themselves.

It makes absolutely no sense to take someone else's opinion on subjective aspects of a game instead of forming your own through observation or experience. I mean I guess I would understand if it was a technical review of the game's mechanics or engine by a game developer or professional themself, but otherwise theres just no point.

It's also less than $20. It will either be a waste of $20 or the best bargain you'll get on a game for a long long time considering the sheer amount of content you get. I don't know about you but those are the kind of odds that make me buy games. And this is one of the best if not the best game i've ever bought for less than $20.

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>just get home from work
>alright time for some elder scroll-
>server maintenance

>>148830610
Please tell me its EU and not NA

>>148831143
NA

>>148831315
Fuck me time to go to bed then.

I propose a solution that will fix vMA. One simple change, and no other changes whatsoever, will fix the entire thing, while still keeping it challenging, but reducing the grind significantly.

Make the weapons BoE, while keeping the current droprates

>>148832393
Lol no

And that will never happen

>>148831745
Don't worry, EU is down too for some reason.

>>148832393
Fuck no.

>>148832393
Holy fuck, you better be joking nigga

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>>148832393
This doesn't fix anything. It only makes it worse. Explain why this in any way would fix anything.

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>>148825045
> Economy issues
Anyone complaining about the economy is a filthy casual and should stay away from this game and allow people like me to play Jew Simulator 2016 in peace.

>>148832393
>wanting clv to have all the money
Yeah, nah, get fucked.

>>148837036
>implying anyone would want to buy a sharpened resto staff

HOLY SHIT
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>>148829795
>>148829159
I select reviewers based on past videos to check if their opinions on games we've both played are close enough that I can trust that games they don't like will probably be games I don't like.

The $20 worth of core value argument might hold water sure but in those reviews I watched they had gameplay running in the background. Bad graphics, bad animations, characterisation of the NPCs seemed meh, voiceovers and sound design all over the place. For $20 you can maybe make the argument that you get your moneys worth but I've yet to see it beyond you guys and the fanboy video producers who deny shit like the CTD-shadows bug and all the other shit that you can find when you look at enough videos.

So I've done my research, and it's just not a game I see myself playing. I might pick it up on discount someday in my local store for $10 or some shit but here in australia they're still trying to sell it for $40 and I can say for fuckin sure that it's not worth that much.

How long is maintenance

The fuck

0 indication of a timeframe

>>148838398
go ahead and not buy the game but insulting it with your unsubstantiated opinions is unwarranted in the general for the game. you thinking it's a bad game doesn't change the general's opinion

So how much do all the DLCs cost?

>>148838545
No one knows. I think the one last week lasted 8 hours.

>>148838702
You can't seriously expect to win anyone over with its graphics.. when games from 2006 look better than it?

>>148839152
wat

Are you a console pleb? NA PC maint last week was like an hour and a half.

>>148839271
EU PC lasted forever. Or maybe it was the week before? I'm not sure any more.

>>148793830
I think the main thing that makes templars good healers is that Breath of Life is an auto-targeting instant burst heal. Every resto staff ability except the ward skill have to aimed. It's really easy to get confused and not be able find the guy who's dying when everyone moves around so much dodging red circles. The new floating health bars still aren't visible enough so you're still relying on the group health bars to know when you need to actively heal.

Basically healing as templar is easy mode. Other classes need to work harder to react in time when people fail at dodging red circles.

People say magicka sorcerer is easy for vet maelstrom arena but my resources get absolutely drained, even with elemental drain. I'm even using magnus for the 5 piece bonus. I try to keep up hardened ward but that depletes so quickly. Any tips?

>>148839787
>Every resto staff ability except the ward skill have to aimed.
What about the disco ball laser heal.

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Back from AVCon, what'd I miss since Thursday morning?

patch notes are up

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279616/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-4-11

>>148841093
>Books that were previously undiscoverable after their respective quests were completed now have a copy in the world.
THANKYOU. I missed one in the final area of the fist AD zone, now I can complete that book-autism achievement.

>>148841326
L2READ faget it's for the Dank Brotherhood DLC not the base game.

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>>148841093
> Filling the Void: Being killed during the final boss fight now suggests a possible solution to your predicament.
It's funny because everyone who dies there die to the very same thing, getting stunned by the boss.

>>148840358
>disco ball laser heal

I think you're thinking of some class ability.

>>148841575
Nah it's the one that morphs into Mutation or Rapid Regeneration. You stick your staff in the air and it autotargets three allies in range.

>>148840358
>>148841575
Sounds like undaunted necrotic orb.

>>148840827
How do I get a UI this nice, all of esoui shit is out of date.

>>148841613
Ah yea, but that's a HoT. Not burst heals. Though Mutagen works if the target is below 20% hp but that's not reliable. It's also two allies, not three. Blessing of Restoration actually does more total healing than Breath of Life, if you hit all your whole group. But good luck doing that with it's retarded target locking.

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>>148841713
Here's my addon list.
I think the biggest change is the Oblivion UI I've got.

>>148841889
Thank you so much. I'll piece through these.

>>148842050
You'd mostly be looking for Oblivion UI, Slightly Improved Exp Bar/Buff Tracking/Unit Frames, Dwemer Clock, Thiefs Knapsack.

Combat Reticle is kinda neat, but not necessary.

The patch is up for predownload now.

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>>148842263

>>148838398
>australia
You would have not and possibly never will enjoy this game. based on australian peoples words

>>148842508
Ausfag here, game is enjoyably playable and at least one fellow STRAYAN places on the leaderboards with our shitty ping, in case that sort of thing matters.

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>>148842631
You'd hardly know Clive was Aussie, if he didn't announce it or you weren't in Drop Bears.
And to be quite honest, latency in this game is not that much of a hindrance, considering games like TERA.

>>148840336
running out of magicka can be due to one or both of these reasons

>low dps
>panic shielding

i suggest replacing your magnus set with julianos. the best defense is a 30k+ dps offense. mobs can't kill you if they're already dead.

>>148842779
julianos is better than twice born star for maelstrom?

We're back live.

>>148843448
Thanks

>>148841408
Fuck you. And that sux.

>>148843195
tbs relies on the incredible boost that warhorn provides for dps. sure it'll give you a little more resource to work with on all pools, but you lose a fair bit of dps doing so. keep in mind that this is different for stamina vma, as the crit dmg boost from numerous abilities and %dmg working better with higher dps almost necessitates it for stam classes.

>>148843976
>Using Warhorn
>Not Rearming Trap

Anon pls

>>148843976
awesome, ty

>>148844292
warhorn grants major force, rearming trap grants minor force that what eso academy saying, I guess if your online you can check for yourself.

>>148845113
It does, but only for like 8 seconds, and it's a relatively expensive ult so on a moderately long CD, and I was under the assumption that sorcs in VMA (which I have, admittedly, never played, only NBs) wanted to use overload for boss burning, while trap can have 100% uptime, even though the bonus is smaller, but without using up your ult.

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Where is Peryite? Does any NPC or TESO only book mention Peryite?
And what's the quest or quesline where Namira is?
Mephala, Boetiah and Nocturnal are getting their own DLCs (I assume so, because of Orsinium ending and Spiral Skein is coming).
Which daedric princes would you like to see in upcoming DLCs and quests? I'd like to see Peryite and Clavicus Vile.

>>148846015
>Where is Peryite?

You mean Cadwell?

>>148846154
>John Cleese as a Daedric Prince
I'm ok with this.

>>148845967
You don't use warhorn in vMSA. His point is that TBS is bad in vMSA because it's only good with warhorn on mag classes. In trials it's pretty good becasue you have other people using it for you.

>>148833172
>Explain why this in any way would fix anything
not that anon, but it kind of makes sense that if you don't get the weapon that you wanted, it could have been one that someone else needs, and it could be traded.

>>148846015
Namira is mentioned in the MoL trial where she turns Khajiit into evil neon Khajiit.

>>148846154
???

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>tfw concluding mannimarco ark
well that was easy

>>148848197
Wish I took a screenshot of the final boss monologue. Had chills up my spine first time I heard his voice change.

Has weaving become even more jank this patch? My skills sometimes don't fire off and they sometimes do, but without the animation wtf

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>>148849328
I don't understand anything about this Khajiiti pantheon.
Any lorebuff here who could clear up Lorkhaj, Jone&Jode, Darkmoon and dro-m'Athra for me?

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nice graphics tho

>>148849769
disregard... it's my shitty internet or maybe not

So I'm messing with a Redguard Stam sorc and having a great time, having just hit level 37 and started Bangkorai. I have been pretty exclusively focusing on medium armor and a 2h weapon, though.

What's a good offset? I was thinking Bow or Destruction Staff, but I don't have the magicka for staff and Overload tends to be more than what I need for ranged stuff.

>>148850193
They fucked with it in DB I think. Staves received most of the fuckery.

>>148850597
Yeah I know, for some reason it felt even more jank

>>148850461
Bow, since I assume you're putting all your attribute points into stam.

Bow is a good off weapon as it provides dots and aoes.

>>148849834
I'm not a lore expert. I love reading about it, and playing the game, so this is what I got out of the MoL trial.

Here's the Khajiit creation myth: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Words_of_Clan_Mother_Ahnissi. It's quite interesting, both Aedra and Daedra are part of it.

"And Fadomai gave birth to Lorkhaj, the last of her litter, in the Great Darkness. And the Heart of Lorkhaj was filled with the Great Darkness. And when he was born, the Great Darkness knew its name and it was Namiira."

Lorkhaj / Namiira are not good, and can corrupt the Khajiit, turning them into dro-m'Athra.

(and Lorkhaj = Lorkhan, Namiira = Namira of course)

Jone and Jode are the two moons of Nirn. Some speculate them to be the corpse of Lorkhan, the Trickster God of Mortals.

And there's apparently a hidden third moon. Maybe that's where the final battle in the trial takes place, in the Maw of Lorkhaj.

Also you have this debuff placed on you called the Breath of Lorkhaj, which has some gameplay stuff involving it (can't have it on you too long in one room, die if you have it on you and walk into the Maw in another room)

>>148850961
Yeah, full stam. I was thinking bow. I know people used to recommend DW but it doesn't really do anything 2h doesn't and it has less burst. Thanks.

>>148839245
were you even born in 2006?

>>148839245
He never mentioned graphics. And graphics aren't everything (even though I think ESO is one of the better looking MMOs).

>>148838398
Bad graphics? Doesn't this game have the best graphics of any MMO?
I'm sure WoW is better lol.
Also the character voicing is excellent, the scale is pretty much incomparable.
Are you sure you weren't watching pizza review brah by mistake?

>>148851726
just let it go anon, he had made up his mind about the game even before posting here and asking us anything

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Hey there

>>148856568
Fuck him up

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page 10 party skellies

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I can do this all day.

I can't, pull it together /tesog/

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>>148862780
POST SKELETONS

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>>148862970

So I've been playing the dark brotherhood dlc and so far it's my favorite part of the game. I bought the game about two weeks ago and I'm a level 30 sorcerer.

I like it except for one thing that drives me crazy. It's cool that they force you to do stealth missions, however the stealth in the game is kind of garbage and they put you in situations that are not even remotely fair if your build doesn't have invisibility. I am loosing money doing these quests because of the bounty I inevitably get. For instance, I'm doing the quest "A special request" and I took the secret passage route that Maribelle told me about. There are two rooms where there are two guards where there patrol is impossible to deal with without getting seen. They don't give you any sort of mechanics to deal with this kind of bullshit situation, you just end up getting caught. You can't throw a rock and make a distraction. You can't even hope for the guard to turn around in this situation because their patrol makes it so that one is constantly staring right at you! The only thing I can imagine is that the level design is punishing players that don't have an invisibility skill. What the fuck.

>>148864038

I make invis pots, and I blade of woe most of the enemies, any time I find an enemy that walks around that happens to be alone I don't care if I'm in the middle of an invis pot I kill instead of walk by.

For some reason my sword is stuck glowing like this. Not that that's a bad thing. It must be a divine sign for my Knight Templar.

DEUS VULT

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>>148864276
Fug forgot pic

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>>148862970

>>148864038
yeah I do the same thing. My problem isn't killing the people on patrol. My problem is when it puts you in a path where you literally cannot sneak past if you aren't invisible. That drives me crazy. Like a room where two people are literally staring at the only way through and you can't kill one of them or sneak past both of them without getting seen. It almost kills the experience for me because it illustrates how the stealth mechanics fail compared to other games like thief and hitman. It just drives me crazy.

>>148865592

you do get rogue invisibility pots from thieves caches and the like, if you can't make your own.

>>148864038
lol, I have lost money rather than gained money because of the awful justice system. You can't even kill witnesses. If they wanted to make a system so fucking punishing they should have made stealth mechanics actually bearable.

>>148865919
the invisibility pots sounds like an interesting work around to the shit stealth mechanics, but honestly I'm not going to halt the pacing of the dark brotherhood questline for however long it would take me to find a thieves cache and depend on an inconsistent drop. It's just not worth it. Despite my enjoyment of the game, it just furthers demonstrates the flaws of this game to me. I just don't think the mechanics are very good and I think a lot of things weren't very well thought out.

I think that the justice system is flawed and they could have fixed it easily, but they kept it in. I think it's unfortunate that it's integral to both the thieves guild quests and the dark brotherhood quests and I don't think the game is competent enough in its justice system or its stealth mechanics for it to pull this off.

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>>148866595
>I'm not going to halt the pacing of the dark brotherhood questline for however long it would take me to find a thieves cache

have you considered alchemy?

>>148866595

you should just... have the pots.. I don't know I completed the dark brotherhood questline without any real problems with the guards. I got caught a few times because I was careless around a corner but that's it.

It's easier than thieve's guild where some of the guards are invincible and you can't kill them and they'll eventually kill you. All DB guards can be killed in the quests.

>>148867307

The best is Namira's Rot, Blue Enteloma, and Blessed Thistle. Grants about 16s of invisibility (well, CP 150 pots do anyway, with appropriate alchemy perks), and like 48s of major expedition (30% increased speed). You're like a ghost through the tricky parts. don't be crouching when you take it so you can really benefit from the speed, be careful of where you are when the pot's about to run out (so you can crouch again)

>>148867307
Unless I can craft it at rank 1 alchemy, no. I'm already investing into two crafting skills, which I think is enough for the leveling experience.

>>148867379
let me clarify. The DB isn't difficult. It is very easy, it's just expensive. Without invisibility it's impossible not to get caught in almost every main mission. This isn't the case in the contracts and the sacraments, but it is the case with the level design for the main story. I think it would be completely trivial if you had invisibility (like all the youtubers that make walkthroughs do).

>>148867763
Alchemy is the second easiest profession to level, first being provisioning. It takes LITERALLY 10 minutes to get it from 1-50. if you have the mats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzlIhcRnmY8

>>148867946

and you can easily get invisibility pots.

I thought we were making this clear.

Invisibility is part of the mechanics as alchemy is a part of the game. The fact that they throw invis pots at you in thieve's troves was not suggesting you go farm thieve's troves but rather than the developers intend invisibility potions to be a part of the gameplay.

>>148868006
>if you have the mats
I don't. I started last week.That sort of prevents me from powerleveling any character. I get that this is supposed to be dlc for players that have already completed everything and probably have alts and several crafting disciplines and materials, so this is a perspective that I'm guessing is rare.

>>148868206
I recognize that invisibility pots are a thing that other people have. I also am pointing out that there are several points where the game will punish you if you do not have invisibility pots by making it impossible otherwise. I think this is bad game design. I recognize that I am not in the typical situation as I started the brotherhood quests almost right away, but it doesn't prevent it from being infuriating.

>>148868458

That's like complaining that if you don't have blade of woe it's impossible to complete sacraments without being seen though.

It's an intended mechanic.

>>148868725
no it isn't. That would be true if they gave you pots of invisibility as part of the progression within the dark brotherhood, which they don't. Besides, invisibility just trivializes the content. Can you imagine if in Thief you could just cast a spell and run through the entire level?

>>148868220
>everyone has more health, magicka, and stamina than me, or has more regen, because they craft or buy food/drinks
>I won't do it because excuses
>bad game design

>>148866595
They are probably trying to avoid the situation from Skyrim where your heavy armor knight with no magical skill at all could be the Archmage of the College of Winterhold.
The missions should be more difficult for characters who are not suited for them.