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Rank 8 Mage preview:
http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=37

Previously on /tosg/: >>148496406

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam!)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
cute ( )
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
FOE(Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c
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I LOVE TALT!
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>>148545835
>Rank 8 Mage preview:
>http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=37
change that too
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=518
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>>148545835
lose weight
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Can these r8 classes even save this game?
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/Ohayou/ when?
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>>148545960
Daoshi secret class info when!?
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c2 Falconbro, one more question:

Did you tried Sonic Strike at duels? I know that Hovering is capable of psychokino levels of chain-knockdown bullshit if there's not enemy pet and no pain barrier involved, but regarding sonic strike vs plate armor people, can we deal at least some 20k damage or so?
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Circle 9 is making me conscious of my Circle 8 class choice
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>>148545835
>allow to expand aoes
>allow to double stuff like fireballs

Reminds when they implemented fucking Pandemic, people thought "holy shit, spread swell/reincarnation/exorcism" then BAM, fucking only Frozen, Hexing and Sleep.

Also any explanation on possible enchant effects?
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tfw we get rank 8 in 3 months when the game has 2,000 players left.

tippest kok.
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I like it, anon.
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Are the party quests at the Mercenary post bugged if you do them with a party? Or were the bugged party quests people were talking about before different?
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>>148546297
Any party with cut-scenes will bug out the other guy. Work around is to have him far away so the system teleports him.
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>>148546004
I wish this game had % achievements for level. So people would see that most people drop the game around level 180~
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>>148546192
>only Frozen, Hexing and Sleep
Play the game.

http://pastebin.com/wLVjKNP4
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New player here. I've been looking up various builds, but I can't figure out how to build my character. All I know is that I want Kabbalist and don't like Priest.

Can anybody please help?
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>>148546431
cleric3pala3kabbatats
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>>148546358
I see, thanks. Can you somehow just turn off cut scenes/events? Looking at the party settings, it doesn't seem like you could.
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>>148546431
Krivis3 Pardoner Cleric2
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>>148546371
This is true. I talk to more casual people and they get bored before r7. Another rank doesn't fix how boring this game can be.
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>>148546431
Cleric C2 Priest 3 Oracle 1 Kabbalist.
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>>148546431
Diev 3 Cleric 2 also seems like a solid choice
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>>148545695
Because you don't need an aoe knockback. No one wants an aoe knockback. Maybe if you're below lvl100, or for pvp, but if you use an aoe knockback in a pve party setting you're just getting to get people mad.

Sonic strike got added debuffs, but it only seems to last 3 secs, can't tell how effective it is cause we don't have it yet.

Like I said earlier, falconer is listed as a support class but only has 1 support skill. An aoe knockback is NOT a support skill, and it also does nothing on mobs that can't be knockedback. Pheasant is purely a damage skill. Also falconer's icon is red which is the color they use for damage classes.

It's not a bad class, just badly balanced for the rank it's in for the reasons I already listed above. It is definately NOT a support class though. Not until we get the sonic strike buffs maybe.

>>148546080
Nope I didn't, I haven't done any pvp with falconer 2 yet, hovering will probably knock your target out of it's range after 2 hits, that's how it is in PVE, so it's probably bad for chain-knockdown.

I haven't really tested out sonic strike's damage yet but it doesn't seem like a true multihit but it seems to have a hidden multiplier, like maybe how cata's charge skills work. I've gotten a wide range of numbers on sonic strike listed in my journal, anywhere between 4k to 15k on ground mobs but I never kept track of whether they were plate or not.
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>>148546624
I'm not even sure if it is just casuals, but everyone I used to play with at levels 100~ already dropped on 186 reset. I'm currently 220 and everyone I see are the same people, nobody new and whatnot. Creates a quite comfy community but it scares me since this was the same on private servers.
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>>148546571
No option.
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so what happen if I watered the hamster with this?
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>>148546371
what happens at level 180?
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>>148547045
+1 Gerbil
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>>148546192
Pandemic was such a letdown, can't even spread your own Incineration which you'd think would be your basic combo.
But hey, at least I can spread Ignition's burn and wugu's poison for 500 per tick.
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>>148547045
It'll get wet.
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>>148546080
Oh forgot to add, sonic strike comes out really fast, but you still need to target a location, which means you can be interrupted during the "select location" targeting if you take damage. You'll need to have a stationary target whether with CC or not to hit reliably in pvp unless you're point blank and just tap the key. Might still miss on moving targets.
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>>148547094
Beats me. I assume it is the XP wall and a lot of people already did daily missions, quests and dungeons 99999 times.

I'm currently 220 struggling to find reason to play. I want to drop but I have guildies who are fun to play with.
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>>148546096
Pheasant is useful on solo pve if you have other means of inflicting damage (basically, if you aren't falc2), don't know how useful it is on pvp.

Even if you say it isn't a support class, it really is designed as such, specially for a loner. Pheasant is shit for damage, but useful when you need knockback, Circling is great support, Hanging is extremely useful when you need to skedaddle or get to an objective faster, Hovering is your damage skill while Call and Roost's usage depends on the situation. That's why I believe the debuffs for Sonic seem to be a step on the right way, something that would really be great for falconer would be a reduction of cd on most skills, too
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Which one would you rather have?

a peltasa that taunts then holds C for 7 seconds?

or a highlanders that taunts then holds catar stroke for 7 seconds?
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>tfw still no Archer c8 info
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>>148547807
4 fireballs
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>>148547807
You mean a highlander who charges it, gets knocked back, and charges it again?
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>>148547807
As long as neither are moving around I don't care, they're doing the same amount of damage.
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>>148547807
Highlander, if Catar Stroke keeps aggro
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Sage is going to make icewall deals double damage, that way i can get it on my runecaster build, i can feel it!
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>>148547913
>The skill Micro Dimension attacks opponents with small distorted fragments of space and it can have a replicating duplicate attribute. The number of duplicates grows with the skill level.
>number of duplicates grows with the skill level
10 fireballs?!
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>>148548312
No, sage will double the amount ofwalls you have to hit, which would be most likely badly positioned, if the skill even works with ice walls
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>>148548436
oh boy, a new gimmick build, this time with 100% more chance of being useless in anything with other players due to rain
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>>148547970
what are you talking about? cartar charging is not affected by knockback, you may get knocked back but charging dont reset back to 0, you charge as you fly
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>>148547045
It will bring you warmth and happiness and that thing you want will drop!
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>>148547568
You can kite mobs in this game, so you don't need knockback, ever. There's a reason why cata's turn off knockback on earth wave and wizards don't use earthquake ever. Yes, they have 1 point in it for oh shit moments, but that's all it's good for. Pheasant takes a long time to activate so you can't even use it as an oh shit moment like earthquake.

Do you actually play a falconer or are you talking about it based on what you read? The only reason people consider falconer a support class is because the only none terrible skill it has is a support skill, circling, and it's not even extremely OP, it's just good.

Again, no one ever wants knockback skills ever, unless you're a low level. Hanging locks you into place for a second or two so you can't even use it as an escape emchanism. Hovering is extremely bad damage that has it's own targeting AI.

I don't think you should be talking about the class if you haven't actually experienced using the skills yourself and it's very obvious you don't play it.
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>>148548618
Play the game.
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>>148548675
Wow, you're cute.
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>>148548704
have you?
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>>148548678
Man, this is really putting me off on taking the circle myself at c6.
I'd rather take a circle in SR that will generally be useless than something that's going to be ass to use.
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>>148548604
>other players
kek
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>>148548675
It looks angry.
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>Alchs getting Transmogs, more items to craft and homs.
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What rod should I get as a 225 alchemist?
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>>148548883
What did you expect for a class that is SUPPOSED to CRAFT items?
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>>148548923
s corna
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>>148548883
>tfw Alchemist isn't a battle crafting class that fucks with the enemy
Only reason I haven't made one is because it's merely a potion bitch class.
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>>148548436
Pyro3 Chrono3

Fireball fireball Dimension
Pass
Repeat

12 fireballs?
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>>148547568
>while Call and Roost's usage depends on the situation
I just reread this part. You obviously don't know anything about falconer at all. Call's usage does not "depend on the situation", you are REQUIRED to use it after every skill if you ever want to use another skill again.

Don't give input based on your theorycraft, you'll just mislead other players.

>>148548840
The class itself isn't bad, just badly balanced. The restrictions can be worked with, just that they never gave anything to make up for the restrictions it has to deal with. I chalk it up to bad balance and if they actually balance it properly for the rank it's in, it'll be fine.
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How upset do you think this guy was when the realization sunk in?
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>>148549047
Nothing, I expected IMC to gloss over Alchemist crafting or moving shit to C3 and nuking the class. Hell I was pretty sure we'd be nuked because classes like Pardoners got no new spellshop/scrolls with bonus circles and Squire too didn't get anything relevant for their C3 except more levels for their C1/C2 spells.
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Does anyone have any idea what inquisitor, Daoshi or mergen do?
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>>148549415
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>>148549415
Equally upset as the guy who slotted his running shot gem into his didel
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>>148549475
they build hope and then let you down
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>>148549557
This is probably worse.
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>>148549415
Let me guess, multiples don't stack in the same gear slot?

>>148549264
I'm already dealing with one sometimes painful to use circle though, plus I completely lack in AoE attack ratio, so multi isn't going to be all that great for me with circling.
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>>148549247
If Dimension 5 replicates FIVE times, that would be 60 fireballs!
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>>148549475
Wait for next week, unless they decide to show of swordies you should at least see one of those.
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>>148549695
>multiples don't stack in the same gear slot?
they dont stack in any item
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>>148549475
Inquisitor probably holy damage, silence and magic resistance. Physical damage.
Daoshi magic elemental damage, can panic ressurect allies if needed, uses consumables of amulets.
Mergen is supposed to be a mounted archer, but some people think it will be based on the divinity that uses bow & cavalry. either way expect mergen to be the 2h bow mounted class while hackapell is the crossbow mounted class.
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>>148549695
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>>148549783
>>148549880
Ouch.

>>148549812
>either way expect mergen to be the 2h bow mounted class while hackapell is the crossbow mounted class.
Please no.
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>>148549812
>two mounted classes in the same rank
Yeah, no.
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>>148549047
Throw pots to heal (hp/sp) and buff (crit/mamp/block) party!
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>>148549247
anything more than 4 fireballs won't even be hitting your enemy.

>>148535097
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>>148550075
Don't forget.
>Two mounted classes in the same rank along with c3 in yet another mounted class (which is crossbow using anyways, so hackapell can't be).

>>148550143
>No mention of throwing pots to debuff/damage enemies or anything not related purely to pots
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>>148550075
Sorry, I never saw the development whitepapers they released where they specified that they would never release two mounted classes on the same rank.
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>>148549812
Daoshi is going to be the secret class wiz damage option for R8 since both sage and enchanter are both probably being classed as support. Are there any ranks of a class with both options being support? Other than clerics and even then one is clearly the damage option.
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Are there any Doppel2 here in tosg that is online? i want to ask something
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>>148547568
>Hovering is your damage skill
Also just to clarify for people who don't know.

Hovering does 8 instances of damage over 19 secs with both duration and attack speed increase attribute. That's more than 2 secs inbetween each tick. Fletcher's broadhead arrow's bleed DoT as well as most if not all other DoT skills, ticks every 0.5 secs. Not to mention 15 broadhead has higher skill damage than 10 hovering, and broadhead is 1 rank lower than hovering.

Hovering also has it's own targeting AI, which means it can hit everything and anything in his range, which means boss traps and caltrops. It also has a knockback which you can't turn off and it will knock mobs out of it's range in 1-2 hits so you can't even use it for good single target damage on anything that can be knocked back. Hovering is pretty much a drop on boss and pray they don't summon traps skill.

>plus I completely lack in AoE attack ratio, so multi isn't going to be all that great for me with circling.
Circling makes it so multishot can hit everything with 0 aoe attack ratio as long as circling reduces the mobs aoe def ratio to 0 as well. 4 circling is enough for this, including bosses. That's how it currently is in itos, not sure if this will change with the ktos patch merges. Also vubbe gaunts are cheap.
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Rolling for a new character.

0-3 Cleric
4-6 Swordsman
7-9 Wizard
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>>148550265
>Two mounted classes in the same rank along with c3 in yet another mounted class (which is crossbow using anyways, so hackapell can't be).

You're right, I'm sorry for being wrong. Hackapell isn't a dagger crossbow class.
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>>148549557
Explain?
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>>148550341
Ops 2nd part was meant to reply to >>148549695
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>Enchanters can now craft Haste and Pass scrolls
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CHRONOS?
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>>148550454
enjoy being useless from now until the end of time
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>>148550591
;_; Th-thanks.
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>>148549812
>>148550075
>>148550265
>be hunter
>both new rank 8 archer classes are mounted
HELL NO
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>>148550559
They make money while still being able to get into parties
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>>148550295
You're right. Daoshi is Wizard R8 hidden class, despite the costume files being changed for it being cler_daoshi. Sorry for posting misinformation.
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I wonder if sages will be able to affect skills other than mage skills, like archer traps and making giant saftey zones.

>rank 8
>No archer hidden class
>No lightning magic
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Thinking about starting playing but hard choice what is the most friendly to a person not trying to spend $$$ on this game
maybe priest for revive? is archer still attribute intensive I heard it is good for solo
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>>148550559
They become enchanters?
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archer_f_bow_skl_TrickShot.xml {Sound only}
archer_f_thb_skl_TrickShot.xml {full animation}
archer_f_thb_skl_arrowrain.xml {full animation}
archer_f_thb_skl_focusfire.xml {full animation}
archer_f_thb_skl_quickfire.xml {full animation}
archer_f_thb_skl_unload.xml {full animation}

cleric_f_mns_skl_darksight.xml {Sound only}
cleric_f_mns_skl_entrenchment.xml {Sound only}
cleric_f_mns_skl_hiddenpotential.xml {Sound only}
cleric_f_mns_skl_hurling.xml {Sound only}
cleric_f_mns_skl_stormcalling.xml {Sound only}

warrior_f_sms_skl_EvadeThrust.xml {full animation}
warrior_f_sms_skl_FrenziedSlash.xml {full animation}
warrior_f_sms_skl_HeadButt.xml {full animation}
warrior_f_sms_skl_Takedown.xml {full animation}
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>>148550876
>cleric_f_mns_skl_stormcalling.xml {Sound only}

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>148550591
Just watch murmillo getting a strike skill on a 5s cd dealing 25 hits per cast with 2k base.
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>>148550949
power of GOD
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>>148550265
>guildies told me to check news about alch3
Oh great!
>no mention of pot skills
Oh well, I hope homunculus AI isn't bad. It will be.
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>>148550341
>vubbe gaunts are cheap.
600k is the absolute cheapest I've seen and it had stupid shit gems in it. The bloods are about the same price
I'd rather go attempt to farm the blood instead, for how impossible that is with the bots and fucked respawn timer.
And 0:0 = infinite seems odd.

>>148550691
That's how I feel about it.
It's going to wind up being c3 Falcon or c1 Falcon c2 Musket for me.

>>148550876
>TrickShot
>arrowrain
>focusfire
>quickfire
>unload
Amazing.
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What kind of fun places are you gonna send newbies?

>>148550876
>archer_f_thb_skl_arrowrain.xml
Maybe it's time to make an archer.
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>>148550559
>Pass scrolls
That would be way too OP.
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>>148550767
Everything gets attribute intensive after 200

Archer or Wizard for solo, specific builds are more strictly demanded by parties but you have viable and fun options outside of minmaxing for support or situational DPS

Solo Priest3 is the autoattack bot build, don't do it unless you're literally a pocket, have trouble pressing more than a few buttons, or wanted to make a Pardoner your first character for some reason (while you can move money between your own characters, it requires premium to do so)
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>>148550876
>archer_f_thb_skl_arrowrain.xml {full animation}
>cleric_f_mns_skl_stormcalling.xml {Sound only}
These sounds amazing.
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>>148550559
They can use Pass twice as often because scrolls have separate cooldowns.
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>>148550341
Hence why I've agreed with the other guy in the previous thread that Hovering needed to have its retarded AI fixed, it could also use some damage buff, but not a lot. Again, I don't believe Falconer was ever meant to be a DPS class, and if anything the Sonic Strike debuff shows that, when other classes that are obviously meant to be DPS got damage changes, like Fletcher and Broadhead, but not only it.

>>148548678
I'm talking about solo levelling, you dummy. The fact both skills have big animations doesn't invalidate that though. Also, you're talking like there's zero distance between you and the target, the hitbox is big and you can reach quite far with it, it's not good, but has its uses. I've managed to escape someone in a gvg using Hanging Shot, because again, I'm not a swordsman and I knew preemptively he was going for my ass.

>>148549264
If you aren't moving around much in a prolonged fight, why not use roost instead of constantly have to use Call
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>>148551192
thanks for the heads up
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>>148551046
>And 0:0 = infinite seems odd.
Yes but that's how it works during circling. I tested lvl1 circling on 1 aoe def ratio (small) mobs with 0 aoe attack ratio and I could hit all of them. Without circling 0:0 would hit no extra mobs.

You'll get 600k easy at higher levels.
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>>148550767

Any support class honestly, most non-DPS focused cleric builds/ cryo chronos are very cheap to make. If you're leveling solo though these might not be the best choices for a frrst character since they can be a bit of a pain to level at times due to lack of damage output.

But yeah you don't need to spend money on a DPS archer or wizard biut you might want to spend some time farming silver to get your attributes up to a competitive level for endgame, if you even get there. Before then you don't have to worry about that stuff, you'll be fine solo.
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>>148550876
>cleric_f_mns_skl_hurling.xml {Sound only}
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>>148550876
>cleric_f_mns_skl_hiddenpotential.xml {Sound only}
So, appraiser is cleric.
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>>148550470
Some guy got a didel know and immediately slotted in his running shot gem. It's just not optimal because green gems in weapons is take good while most color gems in gloves is worthless and that's where you'd put skill gems normally.

>>148550730
Miko/Kanushi and Inquisitor will be the cleric classes. Perhaps this is the beginning of sex class split like dancer/bard did.
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>>148551539
>Use Sex Change on a Miko
>????
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>>148550876
>>148550949
>>148551032
YES, YES.
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>>148551539
>Miko/Kanushi and Inquisitor will be the cleric classes. Perhaps this is the beginning of sex class split like dancer/bard did
By rank 10, we'll be full blown Tactics Ogre here.
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>>148551539
Miko is a hidden class
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>>148551539
>Miko/Kanushi and Inquisitor will be the cleric classes. Perhaps this is the beginning of sex class split like dancer/bard did.
That's what I'm saying, despite the files being changed recently to be a cleric class, some people in these threads have privileged information from IMC, which despite everything confirms that Daoshi is definitely a Wizard hidden class.
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>>148550559
>>148551175
Hey hey
Quick Cast scrolls.
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>>148551882
>>
even - archer
odd - sword

Rolling.
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Rate my r10 necro build

Wiz3Link2Necro3Lich1Dark Lord1
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>>148551459
>Yes but that's how it works during circling.
That's weird.

>You'll get 600k easy at higher levels.
Yeah, but when I'm going to need a lot of cash for attributes (especially since I'm leaning towards Musket) and with token prices now through the roof, silver is tight.
I'm worried about the mob hp spiking that is happening though, These 40k hp mobs at bees takes forever even using Retrieve and that 140ish church zone had packs of 24k hp mobs.
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>>148551882
>No attribute.
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>>148551882
Attribute. I bet all scrolls will be shit because it cant share attributes.
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>>148550876
warrior_f_sms_skl_HeadButt.xml {full animation}
warrior_f_sms_skl_Takedown.xml {full animation}

It's happening.
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Why is Magic Amp bad? Terrible scaling?
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>>148550876
Imagine those as euphemisms.
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>>148550457
So where did "Hackapell is R8" even come from? It was supposed to be R5 hidden.
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>no news about oracle 3
why
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>>148552006
>not Sorc3>Succubus
neger bitte
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>>148552006
Shadowmancer when?

>>148552051
It's not bad, it's just RNG, so you only get like half its value on average. It's only bad compared to getting magical attack in the same possible place.
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>>148552051
It's not bad, but it's RNG so you want magic attack before it

>>148552085
The only info we have at all is wizard and a few skill effect names.
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>>148550876
>warrior_f_sms_skl_HeadButt.xml {full animation}
>warrior_f_sms_skl_Takedown.xml {full animation}
Bet those are murmillo. Gladiator fighting dirty. Also strike damage. Rodelero shinobi murmillo here we go.
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Are all my friends going to come back on the kTOS merger that is definitely happening and not another lie by a snake oil salesman named Kim Hakkyu?
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>>148552353
>headbutt
>takedown
are we playing pokemon or something?
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>>148552140
Best build.
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>>148552063
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4185&l=10906

In light of your new information that confirms 100% that hackapell is a R5 Hidden Class we will tell IMC to change it. Thank you.
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>>148551046
>>TrickShot
>>arrowrain
>>focusfire
>>quickfire
>>unload
LEWD
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>>148552001
rolling off your roll
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>>148552043
We Pokemon now?
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/cute/
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>>148552729
Not until we get sword dance.
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>>148552852
>clip clip clip clip
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>>148552404
Kim would never lie to us, silly
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>>148551391
I've already addressed everything in my previous posts. You don't need knockback when soloing when you can just kite everything. The only people you can run away from with hanging shot are swordsman. Any class with range CC will take you during the 1 sec freeze your character gets when using hanging shot.
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>>148552852
I want to knock away Tatsumaki's fireballs!
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>>148551391
>If you aren't moving around much in a prolonged fight, why not use roost instead of constantly have to use Call
Also that only works on boss fights, and the roost forces the hawk to land and take off which ignores skills during the animation. It's practically worthless since all the falconer skills have such high CDs you can't even spam them with the roost, especially if you only took falconer C1.
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>>148552852
>clipping in the base model
REEEEEEEEE
>>
Online Optionally Multiplayer RPG
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>>148552024
>These 40k hp mobs at bees takes forever even using Retrieve
That's exactly what retrieve is for. Everyone faces the same problem except elememes.
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Does elemental damage ignore def/mdef since its included later in the damage formula?
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>>148553005
>new Pyro3 attribute with R8 re-balance patch
>fireball can not be moved by other player. toggle on/off
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>>148552953
>>148552404
>>
uhmmmmm
are my crushes coming back with this update????
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>>148551391
>Again, I don't believe Falconer was ever meant to be a DPS class
Then why is the icon red and why is the class filled with damage skills?
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>>148551709
>By rank 10, we'll be full blown Tactics Ogre here.
Don't play with my emotions.
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Goodnight tosg
One day I will sleep next to my crush!
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>>148553689
See fletchers and wugushi, they do more damage than most class of the branch and are not labeled as such.
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Archer 1 Ranger 3 right now planning to go Fletcher 3

Should I be using a crossbow and an arde or a bow?
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>>148553178
if I could play this offline my fps would be so much fucking better
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>>148553995
>Is it flying?
Yes: Use bow
No: Use xbow+arde
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>>148553995
2hand for flying, xbow+offhand otherwise
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>>148553641
Licorice soon!
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So what skills can you set with your homun? Every skill you know?
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whats the best 2h sword after magi?
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>>148554492
yee
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>>148554636
Including Summon Devil?
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>>148554697
Including Magnum Opus so it can summon its own homunculus!
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>>148553202
It's going to suck.
I'm likely going Musket, but that wait between Falconer and there is going to suck.
I definitely need to save cards to get at least 3 levels in Falcon though, since you apparently HAVE to have Call to do anything.
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>>148554802
That's bullshit, but I believe it.
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>>148554802
they also use Magnum Opus and summon there own homunculuses!
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>>148554802
>>148554951
>yfw Alchemists crash the game on patch day due to everyone doing this
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New player here. What's a good linker 3 build?
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>>148554863
Changing channel calls your hawk back if it's gone, without having to use call but that's obviously too troublesome.
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>>148555053
>they also count as players because IMC a shit
>suddenly Top1 played game in steam
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>>148554697
That would be pretty fun, double TS. Not even OP because you can only take 1 circle in Sorc
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which $15 hairstyle looks the best?
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>>148555126
You can take sorc 2 on rank 9
>Press Riding, Sorc jumps on TS1 and TS1 jumps to TS2
GATTAI
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>>148555078
Wiz3Linker3Warlock/FF
Wiz1Pyro1Linker3chrono2
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>>148555205
the one that isnt mine
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>>148555115
Yeah, way too much trouble.
Typically it's easy to get to level 3 or 4 just after advancement though, so I'll be able to get call and a couple in circling.
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>>148550876
>Deleted my lvl 180 Krivis today because it was boring having only Zaibas
>NEW KRIVIS SKILLS

THIS
SHIT
SUCKS
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>>148555429
>deleting characters
>when they give team level bonus exp
Nigga you're retarded
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So is CryoLinkerChrono a dead build for ET...?
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>>148555517
I've deleted two 100+ characters myself.
No point in wasting slots on things that you'll never level when you can get something else above that level fairly easily.
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>>148555531
Why would it be?
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>>148555531
Not dead necessarily but I'd rather take a Cryo3 over a Linker 2.
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>>148555429
>>148555603
could still use them to rush 90 or 130
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>>148555531
It won't be dead until Rank 8 scrolls are easily accessible.
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>>148555517
Dude, I live in a shitty 4th world country. Dollars are fucking expensive here because everything here is shit.

I'd rather lose 2% exp than paying 1 month of work for a new slot.
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>queue for 130 dungeon
>there's a 240 fletcher that rushes

fucking retards
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>>148555937
>Rank 8 scrolls are easily accessible.
>everyone is already 280 job 15 by the time R8 is out
>literally the next day R8 scrolls will be on the market
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>>148550314
n-no?
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>>148556151
High3Doppel2 here, if I can help, just ask.
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>killed 1300 magicians and finally got my third Melinas staff
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>>148556267
thanks mate, thats the exact build im looking for

How are you in parties?

Does level 10 DoV really give you 100% attackspeed? wouldnt your auto attacks hit like a truck?

Does recasting DoV at level 10 keep theprevious stack? meaning you could potentially have permanent DoV per map?

How are the 3 new skills at Doppel 2?

How is Highlander 3 Doppel 2 skills in general? good combination? or is High3 a mistake?

is skull swing badly needed on parties?

do you regret making this character?
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>>148556143
I mean somewhat affordable. The first wave of scrolls will be absurd jew prices like 50k a scroll which I would hardly call accessible. There ain't that many capped Linker 3s out there and not all of them will become the jew class.
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>>148556539
50k? More like 100k.
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>>148556732
>>148556539
and they will, just as jews do now, undercut each-other like brainless monkeys.
5k a scroll at 2nd day
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Valia
Say do you remember
Valia
Dancing in September
Valia
Never was a cloudy day
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>>148556347
>got 2 in 800 kills
>went to bed and started farming again
>400 in and no staff
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>>148556885
Nah, it's going to take weeks. There will be like 3 guys at most in the market and eventually they'll just settle on a jew price and keep it there as long as possible.
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>>148556885
>5k for a level 15 rank 8 scroll
Keep fucking dreaming.
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>>148556493
Usually alright, remember that aggroing monsters is a pretty important part of your class, learn how to use it effectively for you to hit your skills and also your party.

It does increase your attack speed by a pretty good margin, but you won't be AA'ing anything later in the game when everything has 500k+ HP, but still a good skill to have when used with the drawbacks in mind.

Pretty lackluster, the most worth thing in going Doppel2 is more levels in Deeds and Cyclone.

I like the combination, and imo it's the best for a dmg focused Doppel2. Armor break from Skull Swing makes Cyclone hits for a lot, and it's definitively worth doing the combo for damage.

Not really, I have fun with it, and I have my role in parties, most of my problems with the class are problem that all Swordsman classes have overall.
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>>148556885
They won't sell them for less than their cost, and level 15 pardoner scrolls cost like over 7k to make.
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it was a splendid day
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So how awful is the 160 dungeon?
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>>148557725
0 ppl do it
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>>148556901
valia is not that good
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>>148556539
You can only make level 5 JP scroll.

Only capped linker 1 is needed desu.
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>>148557426
thanks anon. really motivated me to keep going with this highlander c3 char, was thinking about rerolling earlier

lastly, does refreshing the DoV duration refresh the stacks too?


whats the best 2h sword and which one are you using?

is the 100% more damage taken from DoV, mean that you would take double damage to everything or just your physical defense? as if your armor is broken?

again, thanks mate
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>>148556347
Is a melinas staff valuable or something?
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>>148557846
Does no one do it because it's awful or is it awful because no one does it
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>>148557950
>You can only make level 5 JP scroll.
Not for ET.
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>>148557725
It's decent.

I got from 160-166 in 3 runs.
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>>148557995
Yes. There are a few on klai ah right now for 200k
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>>148557995
It's used to make Audra.

But yes it's pretty valuable.
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>>148552043
What's the finishing maneuver?
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>>148558314
>>148558339
>remember getting one at NPCing it
fuck
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>>148558190
How is that related.

Your maximum scroll crafting skill level is 5, or 6 with divine might.

Unless you are talking about Lifeline and Spiritual Chain.
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>>148557890
Yes it is, you retard.
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Praise the Guinea Pig for good loot
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>>148557684
congrats dude
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>>148557684
What's so special about them? I grind there for 5 levels every time I'm leveling a character and I've got about 5 of them so far.
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>>148557846
>>148558280
Guessing it drops nothing special though?
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>>148558037 exp is really bad
>>148558280 this nigga lies
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>>148559589
:^)
>>148559063
thanks anon it was a long ride but worth it
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How does transpose work in iTOS? Is it different from kTOS version? I think I remember reading some changes about it.
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>Item for sale for 40k on market
>Will only let me list it for 18k
????
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>>148545835
I been playing for a few days now and I just saved enough money to get my first pet, the 110k one. What does the "trainning" option on the pet npc do for the pet? does it give it new skills or something?
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Is better to use plate or cloth on mages? I was using Cloth for bonus SP, but every archer in this game rapes me, should I stick with cloth or change to plate?
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>>148560997
improves stats, but that is almost useless. and costs a lot.

pets are only good for teamLvL exp. get a token and arde dagger first.
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>>148560997
Fuck pets, buy a token
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>>148549812

An actual Mergen, not the god is just a trick shooter. They're not mounted archers. Mergens are like that one guy who jumps in the air and fires 5 arrows before he lands, people who shoot arrows off the top of peoples heads and so that sort of thing.

The god Mergen is associated with a white horse, but is actually a god of abundance and wisdom.
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>>148561002
You swap with plate and cloth depending on mob density.

Few classes would prefer leather.
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@Hamstorm
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>>148561104
but I can't use the dagger side arm yet, I am still too low lvl
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>>148561391
pets are fucking useless
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>>148561391
then get a token.
and a arde. you can soon use it.
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>>148560349

In iTOS transpose either swaps your int and con, or averages them with an attribute. Problem is your max hp increases but your actual Hp doesn't (and if you refresh transpose, your current hp can actually decrease).

In kTOS if you refresh transpose before it runs out, you keep your current hp instead of losing any excess.
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>>148560997
Before you commit to buying a pet, know that pet/mounted classes such as hunter give you a voucher to get one pet for free if you're going that route. Training a pet makes you spend some silver to up its stats. You have to shell out gorillions for it to mean anything though.
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>>148561104
also they are 1 million each which I only have 1/10th right now
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>>148561672
So do we get that kTOS version or korea will get ours?
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>>148561672
Yeah, but in itos you can glitch transpose to get infinite INT or CON as long as you don't leave the channel.
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>>148561884
well, if you really want a pet. go for it. get the cheapest.
dont expect much from them tho
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>>148561965

The kTOS transpose was a fix Korea got, it's possible we'll get it.
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>>148561990
They'll fix that since it's already in their checklist.
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>>148545835
quick question:

so I got this game off of steam, and it runs fine. i have only played a couple of minutes, but i am intruiged by the art style, and want to play more. the only problem is that part of my monitor is broken, with about 1/8th of the screen not working. because of that, i can't play games in my native resolution, 1920x1080. i tried looking for a settings menu, but I can't find one. what I'm looking to do is to reduce the resolution.

if anyone could direct me to where the settings menu is, if this game even has one, that would be awesome. i can't wait to play this gmae.
>>
>130 rush
>Snatching does 10k ticks to the final boss
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>>148562169
But until then you can one shot demon bosses and sell those 50m finishers
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>>148562201
press escape, a small menu appears at the bottom right side of your screen, click settings
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>>148562223
Don't you just fucking love that skill? It's the best.
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>cast fleshcannon
>10k ticks to anything
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Let's choose this together, /tosg/.
What will it be?
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AoE Attack Ratio for elememe? Roxo plate gloves?

im not only using FC
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>>148562892
>hl3
kysmm
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>>148563012
pretty ebin
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>>148562937
What for?
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>>148562681
It is, I'm gonna have to get a second Savage Bow eventually, so I can upgrade the hell out of it better.
Wish Tempest Shooter gave Hunter levels, not fair that QS gets a skill boosting piece of endgame gear and Hunter is stuck with a weaker one.

>>148562769
>Cast time skill that has to be aimed
Yes, Flesh Cannon is outright better due to both better AoE and usability on ground enemies, but Snatching is literally fwee~ and ignore for 30 seconds.
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>>148562769
>max of 16 hits
>shit aoe attack ratio
Weak
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>>148562892
Peltasta
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Either a high1barb3 or high3barb1 doppel2 (3 when we get r8), pls help with the name
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>>148563272
>due to both better AoE
>Better AoE than a skill with infinite or really high AoE ratio.
I captured raise in a Siaulai mission, used it on both the bear and the mole, and was able to take them both down to 50% with one Snatching.
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>>148563752
ChadThundercock
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>>148563752
Guts
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Finally crafted my Audra.
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>>148563819
I mean it has a wider AoE and isn't reliant on the pet's facing to get more targets.
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>>148563752
whats the point of going highc3 when memeliner got fucked?
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>>148564102
Play the game.
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>>148564102
I'm a filthy hipster and Skyliner was always like that in itos. I'm hoping they'll balance highlander in the near future too.
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>>148564102
>W-Waaah, one skill got nerfed, lets delete all the highlanders now

Meta fags are cancer.
>>
Klaipedo down?
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>>148564527
No man you don't understand, this man is a hero! HERO!
You see, once the databases are merged, it's like if it was nerfed over here too, and then every Highlander at iToS will quit the game! And he wants to stop this from happening!
>>
Wiz 3 Ele 2 Necro 3, r9 for Ele 3.

FUTURE PROOF
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>giving wizard another shop class when alchemist exist
For what purpose? All this is going to do is cater to people who don't want to level certain classes. Pardoner already made Paladin and to a lesser extent Krivis useless. Why the fuck would you do this to Wizard? What really grinded my asshole is they had the nerve to show off Joint Penalty as like their showpiece skill that can you can scroll. Yeah let's fuck over Linkers a little more because they haven't been fucked enough, let's just continue fucking them. If they make Hangman and Lifeline scrollable then why would anyone take a Linker anymore when you can have a CryoChrono as your support and have everyone use JP one after another with scrolls as the Cryo Frost Trees the whole area and does the retarded snowball. What the fuck man.

Skill scrolls are stupid to begin with, at the very least it should be limited to 1 skill per class. This is fucking stupid.
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>>148564012
>No Gesti
Meh/10.
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>>148564951
I have no faith that IMC is going to balance the scrolls in any way. There's going to be half useless skills and the other half will be the best skills in those classes.
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>>148564951
Don't worry Frost Pillar, Quicken, Haste, and Pass will be scrollable!
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>>148564951
>it's a "scrolls invalidate entire classes/characters" meme episode all over again
Play the game.
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>>148556347
Look at her in those cum guzzling slut clothes
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>>148565732
He is right tho
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>>148565851
No he isn't. You'd know that scrolls don't benefit from attributes like additional lightning/poison/earth damage from JP. A linker's JP will always be superior to a scroll.
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IT HURTS!

IT HUUURRRTSSSSS!
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>>148566209
>A linker's JP will always be superior to a scroll.
It will be, who said it wasn't? The fact of the matter is, a linker's attributes won't be enough to justify a slot in a party. That's just a fact.
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>>148566209
Just wait for the enchanter attribute that adds attribute bonuses to the scroll.
>>
I'm a new player, my archer needs to advance. I don't know what I'm doing at all. I feel like quarrel shooter would be better for endgame content maybe.

How do you know what to do? I've looked at builds but they are all old and I don't really have experience to know what's good.
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>>148566395
Anon please, it doesn't hurt until it starts costing 4m per level.
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>>148565732
It's the truth though. Why would you make a Paladin 3 when the main draw to Paladin 3 is a scrollable skill?
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>>148566460
Just go whatever seems fun. QS3's running shot is great until around 230, where the mobs have around 100k HP.
>>
What's the minimum level for storage again?
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>>148566412
Being a linker already isn't enough to justify your spot in a party, play the game.
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>>148566412
>a linker's attributes won't be enough to justify a slot in a party
Beyond that, dedicated linkers are 2, maybe 3 circles out of what, 8 ranks? It's not like that's all they have.
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>Get a chrono in a mission who revives the mole twice
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>>148566460
>endgame content

If worldbossing, fletcher 3 is all that matters (Including 280 ones if you want them to die in 30 minutes with competent groups and not 2 hours with pubs).

If ET, SR 2 is all that matters.

You can go whatever though and party composition matters a lot. But generally if you want to min-max the meta for the two types of endgame content mentioned above then you really only have those two choices.
>>
>>148566551
Making Barrier a scroll was a huge oversight by IMC. Killed that fucking class with a quickness.
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>>148566825
>If ET, SR 2 is all that matters
I really, really really like this meme
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>>148566776
chronomancer can't revive mission bosses, retard.

play the game.
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>>148566209
Did you not realize that it's linkers themselves who benefit most from JP scrolls for that very reason?
You can now use JP while it is on CD.
>>
I love Linkers3 desu.
t. Zaibas
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>>148566940
>He thinks they can't
Play the game.
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>>148566939
It's not a meme. People get already to floor 15 daily on klaipeda with SR2, dievdruid, 2x chrono, elementalist party comp and are expected to break to 16+ fairly soon.
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>>148566942
While that's true, I was arguing against his point that it outright replaces them.
>>
I hope they Quick Cast a scroll skill so my Cryo 3 Runecaster becomes more viable TBQH.
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>>148566940
The irony.
>>
>wizard1
>cryo3
>linker3
>kabbalist1
every other support can go kill themselves
i'm the best
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>>148567236
>Kabbalist
>>
>>148566939
>he thinks it's a meme
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/earth-tower-handbook-v1-02/312681
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>>148566940
Maybe you should stop playing with shitty chronos anon
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Lazy Anta just put barriers like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckWWCJdviQw
Around 9:50
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>>148566940
Anon, you might want to see a doctor to diagnose your mental health.
>>
>be a famalam
>have another hot build for you dudes

Wizard 1 Pyro 3 Linker 3 Sage 1

y/y?
>>
>lolipan says to upgrade weapon NOW
>Failed!!
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>>148567236
>wizard
>kabbalist
t. Cirno
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are we live game again?
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>>148567626
yes
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>>148566632
pls rspnd
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>>148567626
>Event on the 19th
>kToS patch soon
>dank 8 soon
Yes.
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So is the Orsha guild active? 245 CryoChrono here.
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i'm going cleric c2 diev c1 paladin c3 kabbalist c1 and then probably kabbalist c2 if there aren't any good support classes for r8

what should my stats look like? i kinda just want to kick back and be a healerman, but i also want to be able to solo at a fast pace.
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>>148566940
t. Misinfo
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>>148568104
Soloing fast won't happen with that build. STR compliments paladin and diev but falls off quickly. You'll be mostly spr and con.
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Is the game still shit?
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>>148567862
>>148566632
252
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>accidentally turned in my Orsha warp
Please tell me there's another
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>>148568316
THANK
>>
Can ranged mobs shoot through barrier?
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>>148568098
We only want non-shit classes.
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>>148566940
>>148566776
they can. but not twice.
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>>148568506
Yes. It just prevents them from entering, and even then if they get past the outer edge they're free to move around because it only pushes out once.
>>
>>148568506
yes
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>>148568321
Of course, it's a quest called Orsha Scroll
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These R8 classes also look like shit.
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>>148568540
O-Okay..
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>>148568545
I've had it happen. Craziest run I've had with ressing was golem once, mole twice, tree once.
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>>148568753
Then that was a bug.
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=488#chronomancer
Reported to STAFF_Max
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>>148568715
You're being deceived!
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>>148568826
Probably was since the mole was at full health both times.
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>>148563752

Reminder: Don't create new charas now. Swordsman r8 info will be released any day now and you want to be future-proof, don't you?
>>
>>148568098
Yes, just message/add the guild leader (read OP)
>>
>>148568545
>>148568753
I had a chrono revive Poata 3 times in a row once, I don't remember if it was before the reincarnate patch nerf or not though. My interpretation from the patch note is that a 2nd chrono's reincarnate fails if the 1st fails, but if it succeeds, it's fair game again.
>>
>>148569042
Fuck everything, I'm going doppel c3. At most I'll wait till next week for possible info on highlander buffs. The only thing I could wait for is MERGEN info
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>>148568540
You shut your whore mouth.
>>
>>148569208
That's what I think too
>>
>>148569208
Exactly what it means.
>>
dod goom
>>
dod tred

Play the game.
>>
what's so special about plague doctor? it seems useless
>>
>>148571180
That's because you don't play the game
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>>148571284
I have 800 hours, retard. I don't play plague doctor, but I've partied with them and I'm reading up on their skills. They seem useless for everything but pvp, of which this game has none.
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>>148571363
No one cares about PvE shit desu
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>>148571363
800 hours and still shit
>>
>>148571467
LMAO
>>
>>148571363
>only 800 hours
A P P L Y Y O U R S E L F
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which one?
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>>148571363
>>I have 800 hours

>tfw 1500 hours
>>
Is there a group chat in game?
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>>148572007
wait is this game even online
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>2000 hours but it's mostly afking and erping in town
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>>148572007
yes
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>>148571956
If you're dex, go vubbe fighter otherwise str go roxona.
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>>148572226
what if i'm spr?
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>>148572169
>>148571981
>>148571363
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>>148566395
Upgrade your weapon instead, retard.
>>
Will pvp and rank 8 save this game, or will Legion finally kill it?
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>>148572197
COOL
>>
>>148572761
>wow

lmao who the fucking cares about wow
>>
>>148572761
>or will... ...finally kill it?

can't kill whats already dead anon.
>>
>>148571956
>upgrading gloves
>>
should i be rerolling my cubes?
>>
>>148572898
>not wanting more ACC on low level gloves
>>
>>148572898
it's vubbe gloves you retard, was very cheap to upgrade and i used it into later levels for the aoe attack. accuracy is neccessary
>>
>>148571981
>>148572384
Without counting kTOS
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>>148572759
Play the game. This is almost never actually efficient especially for a necromancer.
>>
>>148572840
>who the fucking cares about wow
Overweight losers
>>
>>148572840
About 8+ million people

You know, as opposed to the 7 thousand who still play ToS. :^)
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>>148572761
People who resub to WoW when they have a new expansion will always go, regardless of what they're playing. The same people will also undoubtedly quit WoW immediately after they exhaust the new content. It's nothing to worry about.
>>
>>148572759
>retard
>instead possibly lose money and gain nothing
>if you do gain something it doesn't scale your spell's massive base damage like upgrades do and you'll get way less damage for your money in the end
>retard
>>
>>148573303
>8 million
more like 5 milliion :^)
>>
>>148573303
>About 8+ million fatties

fix'd
>>
Is Barb3 good now with those ktos updates?
>>
>>148573058
>accuracy needed at all
Did you go full retard (Str)? I'm sorry if you did.
>>
>>148573473
115 dex, rest str
>>
>>148573473

Not him but, STR is the best stat.

>Needing dex at all

What are you, poor?
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>grind party
>everyone says gz whenever someone levels
STOP
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>>148573473
Spotted the PVE shitter.
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>>148573435
>It's nothing to worry about
For this game, it certainly is something to worry about.

You have no idea what you're talking about. It would be the final nail in the coffin for ToS, because I guarantee you when they quit WoW in 3~ months, they won't have any desire to come back to a dead game made by incompetent fucktards who can't manage to do anything right.
>>
>>148573648
Why does that bother you? Just ignore it. Who cares?
>>
>>148573696
didn't Moonie quit tos for WoW? We're losing players
>>
>>148573660
>Str is best
Lol.
>>
>>148573435
i want to fuck that boy(boy)
>>
Are there any other level 4 chests besides the one with the bunny ears?
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>>148573815
>moonie
>player

more like erpers
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>>148573648
>I am not the only one bothered by that
Mah nigga. It's fucking stupid to celebrate every single level. Save it for when you actually reach a milestone.

>>148573696
Those people would've quit regardless.
>>
>>148573815
>moonie ded
Skeleton Moonie was an improvement anyway.
>>
>>148573824
Well, it's true if he's a rogue.
>>
>>148573696
>implying wowbabbies play a game where they aren't spoonfed literally everything
>>
>>148573696
>they won't have any desire to come back to a dead game made by incompetent fucktards who can't manage to do anything right.
And yet they resubbed to WoW.
>>
>>148573872
cat ears recipe
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>>148573970
>It's fucking stupid to celebrate every single level
>literally 2 letters
>g
>z
Kill yourself autist.
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>>148572761
I doubt ToS and WoW playerbase clash that much for it to do a dent, although people have argued that even Overwatch/Dark Souls 3 release have damaged ToS playerbase.

For me, R8 may make me rejoin and PvP may keep me for some months, but if balance is not solved I'll just drop once I reach R8. Even a fun GvG may be a fucking chore if I see the same shit all of the time and people refuse to PvE with me because I'm not meta.

I doubt they'll fix it so I'm certain I'll just hop in, grind enough to get a token and leave.
>>
>>148574005

FULL DEX in PVP where everyone has 20-30k HP and high Crit resist.

FULL DEX in PVE where you can reach the same crit rate results with money.

You are asking to be cuck'd
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>>148573696
>we have literally 7.5k players across five servers counting bots
why does this not bother anyone?
>>
>>148574061
Never lose hope anon
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>>148574171
Still stupid.
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>>148574298
>I can't find something fun unless I know tons of other people find it fun too!
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>>148573970
I say yay when someone in my party levels.
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>>148574414
I cant have fucking fun if theres no players to party with
>>
>>148573970
>>148573648
I'm going to start writing fucking novels congratulating people in their newfound power as a result of the comingling of their relentless training and our peerless camaraderie.
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>>148574298
From start ToS was a niche mmorpg, even if devs blew everything (grind being replaced by quests, parties with max 5 members, horrible spawnrate, etc) trying to cater to casuals, the game at it's core isn't meant to satisfy everyone, just the niche it is aimed at.
>>
>>148574262
Who said anything about "full" dex, you retard?
>>
>>148574513
Shouldn't have rolled on Femimeme then you cucklord. No problems finding parties in Klaipeda. Kyss yourself.
>>
>>148574298
>>148574414
The playerbase IS scattered, though. They need to merge Orsha and Klaipeda, along with Telsiai and Varena.
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Reminder that this game will have a balanced and static population, regardless of the quality; and will probably die in like 5 years. So people playing now will have nothing to worry about because the game will continue being updated (shitty updates btw) but will most likely not die
>>
>>148574298
It does bother me, but it's not like I can do something about it.

I just erp every day like it will be the last
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>>148574660
Yeah just because you say so
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>>148574262
>high Crit resist
What is sneak hit.
>high evasion
What is feint.
>>
>>148573660
>playing swordsman in PvP
>playing archer in PvP
Spotted the shitter.
>>
>>148574765

>sneak hit

Good luck hitting anyone with that lmao

>feint

Play the game
>>
>>148574073
Where's that at?
>>
>>148574632
>along with Telsiai and Varena

Fuck no, keep those varena shitter away from us
>>
>>148574915
>he doesn't know about approaching with cloaking and using feint
>>
>>148574917
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/628001/
>>
>>148573648
>gz
what the fuck
i've never seen this lingo before
what does "gz" stand for?
>>
>>148575158
gratz
>>
>>148575158
>congratulations
>congrats
>grats
>gratz
>gz
>>
>>148573648
Were you that special someone in my alemeth group just few mins ago?
>>
>>148575096
Yeah, just found it.
>>
>>148574915
>Good luck hitting anyone with that lmao
No problem when my pet holds them still for me. :^)

>feint
>Play the game
See above. Play the game.
>>
>>148575214
Thanks

>>148575230
Thanks
>>
>>148575158
ground zeroes
>>
>>148575073
>>148575323

This is probably your first character, sneak hit has a very small hitbox at a very specific area. It's an useless skill until the card system arrives where you'll be able to hit anyone from any angle.
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It's that time of the week again.

Lewd Clerics.
>>
It's painful watching a boy(male) suffer like this. There needs to be a boys(males) only guild.
>>
>>148575214
>>148575230
lol this devolution
>>
>>148575397
Literally what the fuck is this misinfo. Sneak Hit has no hitbox, it's just a selfbuff.

Are you thinking of Feint?
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>>148575431
Clerics are cute, not lewd
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>>148575397
Why are you quoting me and talking about sneak hit?
>>
>>148575465
but anon thats sexist and muhsoggynistic, its also considered rape
>>
>>148575397
It's not as small as you think it is. Have you even made a rogue before?
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>>148575284
maybe
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>>148575525

>Sneak Hit has no hitbox.

LOL

>>148575608

I have a Hunter1ScoutRogue2, set up is useless especially for pvp.
>>
>>148575608
>>148575397
>>148574915
These people have never played Rogue or even read the skill descriptions.
>>
>>148572761
if anything kills tos it'll be imc. they'll listen to retard players who can't balance a spoon on their nose nerfing everything making players quit. you need a good game not 2fps hoglan that's living on nostalgia before you're allowed to gut somebodies class.

the most broken stuff in the game is things like resurrection but the quality of players is too low to really abuse it.
>>
What's everyone talking about? Sneak hit is easy to land. It's Backstab with the retarded angle.
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I still don't understand why sorcerer is the only wiz class with lewd costume
>>
>>148575702
>the most broken stuff in the game is things like resurrection
Nani? I'd rather just not die.
>>
>>148575839

Easy to land on PVE but not PVP.
>>
>>148575872
thats a battle armor anon
>>
>>148575397
play the game
>>
>>148575915
>i have literally never seen rance in my life
if youre good theres no excuse not to be getting your crits
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>>148575872
cuz wizards are pure and cute. except these whores
>>
>>148575872
There's not many lewd classes in the game, period.
What else even is there? Dragoon?
>>
>>148575683
>Hunter1
>not Hunter2 for retrieve
WHY. Also, you would know then that Sneak hit affects Coursing, Retrieve, and Snatching. Just run around your fucking dog until it starts critting its ass off.
>>
>>148576013
O R A C L E
R
A
C
L
E
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>>148576120
Oracle is pure.
>>
>>148576000

Rance learned a lot from me, you would be in denial over how much work you got to put in to be just as good as other classes.
>>
>>148575883
you are terrible
>>
>>148576037

Feint Barrage, no room to pick Hunter2
>>
>>148576000
>good
But anon, I'm not good. I'm sure there's far better rogue players in /tosg/

Anyway, sneak hit always worked fine for me in PVP but no skeletons on Rogue.
>>
Nevermind reposting Clerics being lewd, there's new fanart on forums.

Have some boys.
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what happened to Koenig?
>>
>>148576551
Mindbroken by Sandvich.
>>
>>148576525
fixed
>>
>>148576585
explain
>>
Guys is there seriously no way to mass buy firewood besides right click spamming?

Its really hard to keep my firewood up and not run out because of this retarded mechanic ;_;
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>>148576585
>>
>>148576705
Oh you.
>>
>>148576715
shift
>>
>>148576715
Hold Shift before you right click you baka
>>
>>148576715
play the game
>>
>>148576774
>>148576785
Holy fuck how did I only find about this 270 levels in, thank you based anons.
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Dad, i'm horny
>>
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This person always makes interesting comics.
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>>148575465

There needs to be a boy(male) only guild and a girl(female) only guild. The third guild will be the designated overflow and ERP guild.
>>
>>148576906
Son I swear to god if you dent the doorframes with those I'm going to tell your sister about the panties.
>>
>>148576967

So then you'd only have 2 guilds, the boy(male) only guild and the designated ERP guild
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>>148576932
More from her.
>>
>>148577097

Exactly ;)

The boy(male) guild will be the homo guild in that case. and i'll be the scout stakling them while in cloaking.
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>>148577104
Last one from her.
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>mfw homunculus uses physical link
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>>148545835
>featherfoots can fly
>and selfdestruct
YES
YES
FUCK WARLOCK I'M GOING WIZ3>MEME3>FF2

How much am I shooting myself in the foot though ?
>>
>>148577443

kek
>>
>>148577443
>cast physical link
>someone dies
>"whoops stupid pet xD"
I can't wait.
>>
>>148577535
>rolled wiz3 based around a skill that deals fixed physical(physical) damage
ok
>>
>>148575158
You need to be 18 to post here.
>>
Last one for today. Quite a few talented people are making tos art on forums, it's worth checking out.
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R8 Swordsman info soon? Please?
>>
Fuck of ForumPan
>>
>>148577535
FF needs linker to do pretty much everything.

You could go Wiz3link3FF2 or Wiz3LinkSorc2FF or even Wiz3Pyro2LinkFF I guess.
>>
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>>148576705
PLEASE NO I'M GETTING BATMAN FOREVER FLASHBACKS NOW

>>148576551
I'm not mindbroken. I'm fine. Just. Fine.
>>
>>148578107
>wiz3 featherfoot2
Play the game.
>>
>>148578158

lmao that nostalgic critic video is worth a rewatch
>>
>>148578158
You're my brother from another class trainer, Koenig. Keep on keeping on.

You better still come to meetups, by the way.
>>
>>148577839
You're just a pelt1 role. That's it.
>>
wiz 1 cryo 1 linker 3 alchemist 3

wiz 1 cryo 3 linker 1 alchemist 3

wiz 1 pyro 2 linker 1 sorc 1 alchemist 3


wat do
>>
>>148574560
>niche
This implies they were catering to a niche audience.

A low population because the game is fucking crap does not equal niche.
>>
>>148576551
became a total slut

went from pure to sucking 10,000 dicks a week
>>
>>148578381
>low population
you've only played stuff like wow huh?
This games population is above average compared to small scale mmos
>>
Katzenberg here. I'm quitting the game and disbanding my guild.

All of my items are going up on the market for the minimum price, what those items are, you'll have to guess.

Enjoy your last couple of months on the ToStanic. I'm jumping ship and investing my time into something that has a future.
>>
>>148578774
Katzenberg here. Disregard that, I changed my mind.
>>
>>148578660
>above average
top kek
7,000 is not above average
not even if all 7,000 were on 1 server would i call it above average

this must be your first mmo.
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>>148578660
What MMOs are you talking about?
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>>148578774
Katzenberg here.

Katzenberg out.
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>>148578364
1&2 good in party, kinda hard to solo
3 can solo abit easier, kinda useless in party
Pick your poison

>>148577839
Noone give a fuck about swordman build, get peltasta 1 and pick whatever you want

t. Elememe
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What's the best path to go for fletcher:

Archer > Ranger > Archer C2 > Scout > Fletcher > Fletcher C2 > Fletcher C3

or Archer > Ranger C3 > Fletcher C3

And how do I build it? Full Str?
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>>148578893
No m8, this must be your first mmo, 7k or 14k peak each day is significantly above average.

Some examples of other smalls scale mmos on steam are:
Mortal online: 1k players peak, 130 normal
Wildstar: peak of 1.8k, 1.6k normal
Path of exile: 9k peak today. 8k normal

Do I need to go on?
Go back to wow you shitter
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Mia!
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>>148574560
A niche audience is defined as an audience with a very specific interest. The game's population would be small because the people it's trying to cater to is small.

You contradict yourself by saying it tries to cater to casuals. The game is not suffering because it was specifically designed to drive people away, it's like this because of parental abandonment issues with the developers.
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>>148579138
Just don't go ranger 3, it sucks here and now in ktos as well.
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>7k players on a game that's only been out for 3 months is healthy
KEK
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>>148578943
see>>148579147

14k peak each day is above average
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>tos isn't dying 7k is above average for mmos man! i'm a super experienced mmo player, i've played a total of 2 mmos
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>>148578660
this desu
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>>148578282
>>148578996
>People believe this

Just you wait, wizardcucks. Swordsmen will always be the master race, one way or the other.
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>>148579451
>>148579308
doomposters please leave
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>>148579308
Where's the 1m+ graph?
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>>148579561
>stop reminding me that my game is dying! the truth is too hard for me to handle!
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>>148579308
>>148579451
Wow anon you sure showed me when >>148579147 has already proven you dead wrong :^)

Go on use your charts and show me those games that started out in 2016 and show me how much players they have :^)
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>>148579602
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>>148579613
>lets used purposely biased data from old games thats been out for ages against tree of savior a game made in 2016
go on than, prove that this game is dying compared to other similar mmos
I don't know what fetish it is to misinfo people into thinking the game is dead but you should consider soduku you literal retard.
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>>148579147
>Wildstar: peak of 1.8k, 1.6k normal

Thinking back to all the /v/ threads, this is the most amusing thing on this thread.
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>>148579817
Why did wildstar die anyways?
I mean I know the company went bankrupt or something due to how badly it did but didn't another company pick it up?
Why is it so dead?
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>>148579147
>this game has more people than 3 mmos
>that means it's above average
holy shit you are are retarded.
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>>148579138
Go archer2>ranger>scout>fletcher3
Not full str. I'd say 1:1 or be a cuck that goes by the numbers for a 5% dmg boost by going 2:1, but the dex helps a lot for tanking world bosses by going 1:1.
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>>148578107
>Wiz3Pyro2
Yeah I already tried the "take a 2nd rank class as 4th rank" route and I'm not doing that again thank you.

Also
>taking a class with no cast times after wiz3
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>>148579451
>>148579308
i know how to solve this problem. let's nerf elememers, quickcast, highlander, and fletcher. surely once we put these class into the garbage people will start playing more :^)

gaymers love buzzword like "power creep" and "balance" when they make excuse why they are shit
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>>148580009
No one cares about the cast time reduction part of quickcast, only about the 50% total damage attribute.
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>guys this game is above average i'm totally serious guys
>you see these 3 mmos that died years back?
>well, we have more players than them!
>that means we're above average, right?
>man we're literally the next wow killer holy shit this game is great shit man even if we drop down to 500 players online i bet that's still above like fucking graal online or some shit that means we're above average!

I will never not be amused by retarded white knights in extreme denial.
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>>148579308
>Star Wars Galaxies
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>>148579943
Anon for you:
Elder scrolls online: Average 3k, 24 hr peak 8k
Neverwinter: Average 3k, 24hr Peak 14k
The division: Average 4k, 8k 24hr Peak

Now compare all of these games which had significantly more marketing to tree of savior with its 8k normal players and 14k 24hr peak
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>>148579451

>tibia

That was one fine german mmo
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>>148580112
Making every class circle good would solve that, but considering how fucking assruptured you are I assume you are some of the meme meta builds and is agaisn't nerfing because your class is totes fine right? Everyone else just suck.
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>>148579147
Tree of Savior is exclusively on Steam. Most MMOs have a separate client from Steam so there is a divide. Any number listed on Steam is 100% of its playerbase.
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>>148579308
What happened to Warhammer Online? It lost a ton of subs instantly.
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>>148579482
Unless IMC decided to give swordman rank 8 a huge aoe skill with 50hit x 3k base damage on 30s cd i doubt you guys will ever be relevant
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>>148580112
They were supposed to buff all the other classes close to elememe/fletcher level so people wont give much of a shit if elememe is better
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>>148580418
Anon as long as the computer has steam on it, it auto counts you in charts and demographics.
How many players do you think don't have steam installed?
I will grant you there might be a sizable amount of players without steam installed but I don't think that number will acount for enough of a difference.
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>>148579451
>toontown online
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>>148580418
>you have to open ToS through steam
Can you please play the game instead?
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>>148577626
>Featherfoot
>physical damage
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>>148579308
>FFXI
>500k
Man I miss those times. My only regret in life is that I didn't play that game more.
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>>148580336
>tree of savior with its 8k normal bots and 14k 24hr peak
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THE GAME IS DEAD SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP URUSAI
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>>148580727
>elder scrolls online doesn't have bots
>neverwinter online doesn't have bots
only the division is arguable with the bots meme since its more like a fps and bots have no reason to bot it
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>>148580672
>Featherfoot's alluha akbar
>magical damage
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>>148580820
>measuring game status in binary
neck yourself
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>>148580820
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>>148580559
>PvE meme

Here we go again. All that matters in online games is PvP content. You have to be a special kind of stupid to enjoy the PvE in this game, by any measure.

Swordsmen can't output enough damage to kill the awfully balanced, retardedly stupid, pointless tough HP sponges that IMC decided should lurk on 200+ maps. They're LITERALLY ALL RECOLORS OF PREVIOUS ENEMIES, HOLY FUCKING SHIT HOW DO THEY POSSIBLY THINK THIS IS OKAY?!!?

As long as Swordsmen have enough damage output to kill a player, that's the only thing that matters.

PvE is a meme.
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>>148580727
>Game is popular enough to have bots
>This means its a ded game whilst tons of other games don't even have bots which means its an alive game
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>>148580886
>7k players after 3 months is above average! i swear on me mum it is! yep yep this is my 2nd mmo! i'm an expert!

neck yourself
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>>148580837
No problems here. I just held c or had dex on my characters because I'm not a scrub lord. (Haven't done a wizard yet, kill me.)
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>>148580926
>all that matters in this game without pvp is pvp

jesus you want it so bad? alright, here it is. (you).
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>>148580005
Okay, thanks! Str:dex 1:1 it is.
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>>148580926
>pvp
>in tos
>>
>live in turkey
>playing game
>game gets interrupted by the turkish internet warning signal
>there's a fucking coup going on right now
HOLY SHIT I'M GONNA DIE I JUST WANTED TO PLAY TREE OF SAVIOR
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>>148580967
>literally just got proven wrong that the game is very much above average in players amount with tons of statistics
>can't win in battle of statistics and facts so relies on ad hominems against everyone
kek, doomposter-chan is cute.
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WE SHOULD COUP AGAINST IMC LIKE TURKEY
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>>148581109
>Turks play this game

uhmmm
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>>148577635
sorry for not knowing your faggy gaia tier terminology
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What the fuck happened with Maga Spear? I brought it for 1.7m. Now nobody wants to buy it for 900k, what the fuck?
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>>148581109
>>148581206
Why is there a coup?
I thought turkey wasn't doing that badly at all?
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>>148581262
>he fell for the Maga spear
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>>148581262
People realized swordsman is shit and there's no more demand. Supply is unaffected.
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>>148581109
>there's a fucking coup going on right now

Rip in pieces turk-anon
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>>148581262
put it up for 750k and i'll buy it in an hour
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>>148581275
From what I gather, Erdogan is an Fundamentalist, the military allegedly "wanted to preserve the secular state", though I don't know exactly what he has done
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>>148581330
>>148581343
I blame the Brandish recipe farming bots.

>>148581353
That's too much. I'll save it, j-just in case pvp becomes relevant.
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>>148581004
>>148581079
The game is a questhub themepark, yet quests stop halfway at 230. Regardless, people organize grind parties and do PvE, even though IMC does not support it beyond 230. The content is incomplete.

PvP is the same logic. We don't have any, but people still organize wars and duels so that they can create that content by themselves.

In kTOS they added quests all the way to 280 maps, but they haven't changed monsters to anything original Literally 50~60 levels worth of nothing but monster recolors, stupid AI, and HP sponges. In a sense, PvP is more developed than PvE.
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>all br community jumping shit due to confirming br servers never ever
>tosbr official posting "LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiit, can't play this with klaipcuck or orshit latency. shitlute isn't any better either.
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>>148581680
>br swarm us servers in all other games
>can't get a br server so they jump ship on tos
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>>148580839

>Featherfoot, a rank 7 evolution of the wizard class has a skill that deals physical damage [citation needed]
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How does one build a barbarian?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112666.21354554.253545.5a6a718595a5b9
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>>148577662
Is this the fag who drew the sleeping with owl? Cause I love that shit.
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RANK 8 CLASSES ARE ABSOLUTE SHIT
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>>148581871
Read the last 2 threads you lazy retard.
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>>148578816
>not disregard that, I suck cocks
1/10
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>>148580837
*spawns behind you*
*unzips arrow*
"Psssh… Nothin Personnel… Kid…"
*spiral arrows u*
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>>148582068
*does 1 damage with its limp dick attack*
are you even trying
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>>148581949
This one? Yeah, he makes some nice diev comics. Let me check if it's the same dude.
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>>148582068
>>148580837
>he doesn't have aspersion
What, did you think they just did bonus damage to jews? Shell out the 950s and that place is a breeze.
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>>148582367
>>148582068
"b-bakana...!"
>>
FF explosion will probably magic, but the concept of a MATK skill that inflicts physical damage (ignores mdef and goes into your defense) is not that abstract

Not that good in this game since def/mdef is mostly flat and magic damage is actually better but one think of a spell being matk based with strike physical damage since it's a huge explosion, enjoying lethargy and freeze stuff.
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>>148580652
I know nearly nobody on Tera who plays it trough steam considering how steamoverlay kills like 30 of your FPS.
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i don't know what to do anymore.
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>>148582710
all those enchant scroll potentials...........
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>>148581949
>>148582389
I think it's him alright, here's the topic.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/small-hams-small-art-gallery/177948

This one always gets me.
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>All this arguing about player numbers
>Missing the bigger picture
You have to ask yourself why the playerbase has dropped so much, and the answer is because IMC are fucking retarded.
And they show no signs of improving.
They are throwing us a few little bits of content now like an event and people are forgetting the fact that the content we do have is horribly broken with absurd restriction that drive off new players as soon as they join.
They are going to continue fucking up and running the game in to the ground causing more players to leave.
At least some other mmo's with a small or smaller playerbase like path of exile have a competent development team that can at least keep their existing players happy.
We have IMC
That's the problem as far as I see it, not the numbers specifically.
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>>148583005
>shit my doomposting backfired
>uhh uhhh
okay guys you're right the numbers say I'm wrong but IMC will KILL THIS GAME!!
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>can fly
>can snackbar

Featherfoot is Vegeta
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>>148582068
>>
PB dropped so hard because of the newcomers block IMC put on again, lol.

Before that, even with players leaving, new players always refreshed the servers and we had a constant and more potential end-game players.

But IMC fucked up, as usual.
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>>148583057
>being this much in denial
It's like you don't even realize that it's you who the numbers are proving wrong.

Stay asshurt and wrong.
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>>148582932
And here is the thing that inspired him to do >>148582389
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>>148583217
>I-I'M NOT WRONG!
>YOU'RE JUST IN DENIAL!
>THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO TRY SO HARD TO CONVINCE EVERYONE!
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>>148583005
You've already been proven wrong statistically about the state of this game as its nowhere near dead but yes IMC IS killing the game by giving no updates.
This game could've stabilized with as high as 30-40k players if it wasn't for the retarded stopping of new players and unplayable lag on the sea servers during the opening 1-2 weeks.

So YES IMC is killing the game but NO this game is nowhere near dead yet.
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So where's the best grinding spot at ~166?
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>>148583409
Beezelbub.
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>>148583409
Demon prison d2 and buzz buzz.
Demon prison d2 is better for gem exp
Buzz buzz is better for those lazy as you never have to walk far at all
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>>148583380
What's that? You said that you're wrong?

Okay, we both know that you're wrong. Feel free to stop posting any time, retard-kun. Your denial went from highly amusing to just pathetic and sad and I wish you would stop humiliating yourself, white knight retard-kun.
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>lvl 120 xp wall
aaaaa
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>>148581109
>Live in Argentina
>Masked Coup last december
>Jews scavenged this place completely
>Might even lose internet because lack of money

I desire your death more than mine.
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Been a long time since I've seen doomposters so btfo. You've made me proud, /tosg/.
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>>148583607
>xp wall
nice memel
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>>148583638
>being so butthurt that you desperately defend this dying game for hours
Pretty pathetic, retard-kun.
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>>148583564
Are you fucking retarded? You've already been proven wrong multiple times about the state of this game yet when people throw you a bone you bite at the hand that feeds you?

Why did I even try to talk sense into retarded doomposters, go back to shitposting about how ded the game is, at least now people have the numbers and statistics to call you out on your bullshit.
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I'll be the first one to make a jewish magus who shamelessly sells haste and pass.
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>>148583638
>Been a long time since anyone has been positive about the game
Just tells you how shit it is really.
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>>148583792
Anon, I just got here from lunch and read through the thread. You should really calm down. Think about your blood pressure. I care about you, doomposter-kun, I know that you doompost because you care, even if your methods are misguided. I don't want you to have a heart attack.
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>>148583792
Oh the irony is strong in this one, go on and prove how dead this game is anon, did getting rekt multiple times in both statistics and logic break your mind that you can only resort to ad hominems now?
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>>148583707
what meme? cards are giving me 2% xp. this is not a meme.
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>>148561461
pshhh...say that to my hunter in a 1v1 duel kid....
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>>148583954
but there are no xp walls
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>>148583638
>he instantly fell for the first crumbs from the Kim's table

Just how desperate tostards are?
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>>148584027
170-175 and 248-252 say hello.
At least you can mission through 170-175 but 248-252 is hell
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Will my pet still receive exp even if it has no hp?
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>>148584062
>anyone that can see the truth is someone who grammatically incorrectly falls for the crumbs off kim's table
why are you so desperate doomposter-kun?
>>148584239
yes
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>>148584239
no
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>>148584239
maybe
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>>148584274
Thanks. Should I buy the 100k or 400k one? I only need it for raising team level.
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>>148582053
>you're so lazy why won't you read through the the last 1k5 post to find one single information that is so widely known no website talks about it ?

Sorry for being lazy
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>>148584125
>~250
well maybe a little
but nothing <200
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>>148584239
i don't know
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>>148584239
can you repeat the question?
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I WANT GUILD EVENT

GIVE ME GUILD EVENT
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what build?
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Ei lolipan. Come log in. You said we will go and do the guild event! Logging in at this time is hard you know. At least do it when you say the thing will happen at a specific server time!
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>>148579147
>using games that are widely considered to be dead failures as your examples of the average MMO
>last one isn't even an MMO
uhmmm
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>>148583638
Most doomposters already left, you're just saying "NO, IT'S NOT DEAD" after the game is loses a large chunk of it's playerbase and continues bleeding player due to incompetence of IMC (quest party glitch, for starters).

yeah yeah, game has enough players, it's alright, fuk u, etc, nobody even cares about arguing anymore because it practically became preaching to the choir. it became so bad we got actual contrarians trying to bait people into thinking things are getting better.
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>>148583954
>he doesn't know
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>>148585012
You do understand the irony in this right? Its been doomposters the whole time saying "NO ITS DEAD" when statistics and everything else proves otherwise.

No-one is arguing about whether or not IMC is incompetent but you're deluded or very biased if you think this game is anywhere near dead.
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>seems like I've been getting a lot of negative reviews and half my population consists of bots
>maybe some more restrictions will do the trick
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>>148585149
ok here (you)
>>
So what exactly is the criteria for a dead MMO?

People tell me ArcheAge is alive and well because it has a few dozen players in it, thus it's not dead.
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>>148585219
>no argument
yeah you sure showed him, I thought white knights were bad but doom posters are even worse
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>>148585194
Stay strong, MrKim. You can do it !
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>>148585336
So what exactly is the criteria for a alive MMO?
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>>148585336
if i like the game is alive, if i hate it the game is dead.

actually it's most likely a game lacking updates and population dwindling like mad, but don't tell it to people in this thread, they might get triggered hard by the implication.

im just glad there are people willing to play this, pay for tokens and also defend it for free on online communities. gives me hope that there are enough retards in the world for you to live off of.
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>>148585729
>lacking updates
Read. The. Threads.

Clearly you don't play the game, but if you actually read any of the last 2 threads you'd realize what terrible timing this bait is.
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m-maybe it'll work next time
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>>148585826
>it's coming guys

I'm sure the merge is coming buddy. I'm an #IMCmissile now.
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>>148585892
>merge
Read.

The.

Threads.

He's not talking about the merge.
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>>148585729
>thinking he's better than retards in this thread
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someone list grind maps with min/max lvl please
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>>148585892
>merge
>this desperate for (You)s
Why don't you try posting in some general you've actually been following?

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=518
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>>148585729
stop trying. like you said it's preaching to the choir.

literally 50k population to now what, 8k?
top 10 to what, top 30 or some shit?

delusional. as if fucking r8 is going to make the grind to r7 any less of a fucking drag for normies.

the game is fundamentally shit.
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>>148585336
Games that are actively gaining players, even negative ones.
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>Mia with heart pupils and bunny outfit
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>>148586156
b o t p r e v e n t i o n
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>>148585729
>>148586112
if you're going to samefag at least learn the basics of samefagging, you should also note "preaching to the choir" meme is a dead giveaway of your samefagging for the past few hours of doomposting
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>>148586090
This denial is amazing, next month you'll be posting "they meant on ktos guys calm down", like the Swordie rebalance. Still, good on you.
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>>148583447
>>148583490
>Demon Prison
Never fucking ever. Fuck that entire fucking zone.
Bees it is, at least I can kill those pretty quickly.
>>
Did they fix game performance issues yet?
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>>148586330
>he doesn't play kTOS
lel
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>>148586090
>>148586330
>T-THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY UPDATES...!
>but they are
>Y-YEAH MERGE HEH YEAH RIGHT
>who the fuck is talking about the merge, LOOK
>o-oh... well uh... you're just in denial xDD! those updates are fake, kim photoshopped them between blowjobs from JULIE! XDDD!!
Jesus christ this is pathetic. The doomposters don't even read the thread any more.
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>>148586160
Nah.
>>148579168
Hmm hi.
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>>148586156
>gain 830% players
>only lose 42% of the 830%
>morons still believe the game is dying
790% to go, wow, so dead, much kek.
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>>148586330
You do understand you've been the one in denial the whole time even when actual statistics and facts have been posted proving you wrong right?

I mean I don't mind arguing against this or that as long as its backed by good facts but you've been doing nothing but ranting without logic.
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>>148586446
The merge will come with r8. Why do you think they are pushing iTOS changes to kTOS?

Also shitposting with greentext is cute, but ultimately undermines your own post more than mine.
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>>148586438
Please. I haven't played this game in a long while.
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>>148586605
What about the event, though? We finally got one.
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>>148586795
performance issues are just as bad but we have 20% of the original playerbase now so its not that bad
>>
Anyone have the list of quests that cause mobs to aggro you?
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Why are you answering the leftover doomposter? He's been shut down like 7 times and just keeps going, there's no point.
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Has necromancy gone too far?
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>>148586605
Except his greentext is completely on point anon.
The fact it was exaggerated does not change the legitimacy of the fact doomposters literally do not even play the game anymore and just shitpost whilst being uninformed.
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>>148586953
>rance in time out in the upper right
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>>148587053
Isn't me. I'm in the lower area, center spot on my channel. Leeching my cow because she hates linker but wants slutty sorc outfit.
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>>148586924
its different people each time, look at the post count anon, it went up from 9X to 11X due to the doomposter arguments

every time new people enter the thread and see the retarded shitposting doomposter, they give him his (you)s that sustain his shitposting
>>
>>148586501
That's the INITIAL PLAYERBASE YOU RETARD!!!

LOSING 42% OF THE INITIAL PLAYERBASE

MEANS YOU LOST HALF YOUR

FUCKING

PLAYERS

AHHHHHHHHH ARE YOU STUPID??
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>>148587256
>42%
>half
are you retarded?

42 + 50 is 100 to you?
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>>148587330
42% is basically half numb nuts, you know what I meant
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>>148587256
watch how this shitposting by doomposter kun attracts someone who can't hold back from replying and giving him (you)
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>>148587256
>mmorpgs including triple A launches like a realm reborn and gw2 hemorrhage players after the first 2 weeks for the 2 months to follow
Yes, this is correct. How are you enjoying your first MMORPG?
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>>148586501
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>>148586089
>>
Stop giving everyone free (You)s, goddamn.
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>>148576906
When will Maggi do porn?
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>>148587053
>rance's cow is a costume collector
You two are so fucking cute.
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>>148587450
What level range anon
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>>148581924
Please respond
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>>148586953
Afk farm is seriously a big problem right now that the devs need to address either by making the massive hp sponge mobs drop more silver or increasing spawn rates on non dinabee maps. The fact that one of the richest players on the server is a dude that has multiple characters dedicated to fighting for control of the area just to afk farm in is retarded.
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>>148580691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjdHsFK60ZY
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>>148587598
all 200+
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How I know /tosg/ is dead and has been for many months is that no one ever posts about wanting to fuck a peltasta anymore.

Well /tosg/, LET IT BE HEARD that I very much want to fuck a peltasta, wantonly, borderline violently until she's nothing more than a quivering lump of useless flesh.
Especially one with horns, branches, something I can grab onto while I ruin her from behind.


I'll be chilling at Orsha ch6 on the roof by the market manager. If any cute Peltastas want to come - chat about the nice weather in Orsha today, I'll check in 20 minutes or so after my [game redacted] game finishes before I resume my ingame activities, I expect you to be sitting by me.
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pelt-hop3-doppel-dragoon or
pelt-hop3-doppel-shinobi
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>>148580551
Everyone quickly discovered how unfinished the game was while Wrath of the Lich King was coming out at the same time.
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>>148587728
The icbt2 times are long gone, I also miss the Rugal wiz2 linker ele3linker2 meme
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>>148587728
b a s e d m o o n i e
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>>148556117
Is there a way to bail the dungeon so it doesn't consume a run?
>>
>>148587637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sag9hIVICM
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>>148587862
Wait for rank 8 info and korean patch it seems that they increased the number of skills compatible with hoplite so shinobi hoplite might end up retarded.

I really don't think dragoon is that good of a class for much of anything.
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>>148587862
doppelgoon
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>>148587664
200-210 = vedas bottom + vedas torch event
211-231 = alemeth truffles
230-235 = cranto coast defend quest, redo before time limit (very good if you intend to use grynas later, worthless if you don't care about pincers)
230-248 = evac, everything really
248-252 = I hope you have cards
252-265ish = storage
250-260 = grynas torch event as well
265+ = maven + maven torch event

Theres also tons of other torch events with insane exp but since no parties around to do them you both get the whole palce to yourself but need enough dps to easily rape 50+ 100k mobs which outside elememe/featherlinker/shitnobi isn't likely
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>>148587951
no

you are in. you are screwd.
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we need a Kim version
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turkey poster from before here

you have no fucking idea how it feels to do the 145 dungeon while everything near you is getting blown to shit
i've heard like 10 explosions in the past hour
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>>148581109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO0g09LfbNQ

>Live stream of Turk CNN getting taken over
>That youtube chat

Don't die Anon pls
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>>148588063
Thanks. saved
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>>148587632
>THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM GUYS PEOPLE ARE MAKING MONEY. WE NEED MORE RESTRICTIONS AND TO MAKE THEM SHIT AND POOR LIKE ME AND MY CHARACTER
kys
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>>148587637
Fuck. The Ark Angels were the coolest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeIBlye8V10


You faggots are making me miss the game.
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>>148588159
Dude why aren't you moving to a safer place or something?
Aren't you at least slightly scared for your life?
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>>148588301
not allowed to go outside, pro-coup faggots would shoot me. there is no safer place in the house than in my tub on my laptop.
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>>148587632
The issue should be normalized in the future when the branch merge happens. Presently monsters spawn at dina bee farm are twice as fast as any other map, which is part of the reason it's so popular, but all maps were brought in line on ktos, and dungeon silver drops increased, so there'll be better (or alternative) places to go.
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What is the Grynas torch that people keeps saying in shout?
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>>148588365
welp at least you have your priorities in order
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>>148588486
Grynas torch event for grynas set (google it faggot) which spawns every x:00 hour randomly at grynas hills.
>>
so just how much silver per hour does honey farming give?
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>>148588365
I hope you're not muslim since last I checked the military is doing a coup against muslims and keeping the system secular
>>148588669
if afk, around 50-100k, if not afk than around 250k provided you have the channel to yourself or around 50k if not
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>>148588669
it's trash, bee mafia is real
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>>148588847
>military is doing a coup against muslims
Fundamentalists, there's a difference
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/superman-vs-goku-vs-saitama/312950

a u t i s m
u
t
i
s
m
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Is it worth doing the Saalus missions if you're not a QS looking for didel? It seems a hassle just for that 2 talts.
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>>148568098

Yes, we're still kicking. Send Colyo a friend request and I'll get to you when I'm done wageslaving.

>>148568540

Fuck off.
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>>148589315
Superman would win. This isn't even Superman's final form.
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>>148589480
Only if you have a stable group who don't need to spend 30 mins shouting for a party

terralion is fucking awesome and lets you sell your max peta
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>>148589480
If you have friends/ a group to run it with sure. Its a hassle to find people
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>>148575702
>>148576292
How can you abuse resurrection?
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>>148589315

superman
>>
>Impossible to find a decent spot at bees
>Even when you do, a sorc or necro always rolls in and decides this is now their spot
I'm not even in that little island area that every single one goes to, fuck off and let me have my tiny spot.
>>
>already level 100
>fucked up and went a1 r3 instead of a2 r2 f3

should i reroll, continue on or play a different character?
>>
>>148580926
>All that matters is pvp

I want WOW children to kill themselves.
>>
>>148590635
Wishing pain/suffering/death on people is a curse, and curses always come back to bite you in the ass.
>>
>>148590635
>PVP
>WoW
WoW always had shit PVP and arenakiddies have always been the laughing stock of MMORPG PVPers. The PVP-obsessed players in this general are from L2, TERA and Ragnarok Online.
>>
>>148580559
>What is Cyclone
>>
>>148590580
I hope you went full str and intend to wb at dulla exclusively.
No scout seriously hampers fletchers wb ability in everything besides dulla, I would never take a non-scout fletcher in a pickup wb group ever unless hes right at the wb spawn spot
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>>148580926
>MMO PvP
>At all matter
How to spot faggots who think lockdown, ganking, and outgearing is great "PvP"
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>>148590580
Just make it a fletcher. Surely steady aim will be buffed.
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>>148590865
It won't.
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>>148590865
I'm sorry anon, you probably didn't hear about the last ktos update...
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>>148580691
2003-2010 masterrace. The game was great from 1-50 when RoZ came out and then they fixed 50-75 with CoP and even more with ToAU. WotG was great to explore with additional money/leveling spots; icing on the cake. Great waifus everywhere though Prishe is top. Fuck Abyssea.
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>>148589068
>there's a difference
Not really.
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>Shout: Saalus, Every class is welcome
>A lowbie joins in
>"Switch to your main"
>"But this is my main"
>"Oh, sorry 240 is the minimum required level"
>"But you said every class is welcome"

Why are newbies so cute
>>
What do you regret about your class composition /tosg/?
As a memenobi I severly regret not taking squire as your gear breaks literally every 8-9mins.
I also greatly regret not maxing concentrate since storage is cancerous.
>>
>>148592143
did u fuk him?
>>
>>148592143
Now bully his feminie penis until he gets the message.
>>
>>148592212
>I severly regret not taking squire
No you don't, believe me.
Just repair at a level15 repair one for pocket money.
>>
>>148592212
>squire
Are you a fencer? I'm also a memenobi but my gear doesn't get broke that often even at storage.
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Arde dagger or Token first? I've got 850k. I have a couple items that would make nice silver maybe (saved mats that look like they're for good items/collections but I don't know how to price them, max since none are on the Market at all?) but I don't think they'll net me something like 850k to buy an Arde and I'm almost 75 already. The token exp doesn't seem that useful since I'm getting a bunch of quest exp cards and I don't think I have to mob grind that long any time soon (lv 68 with ~10 maps left to do). Thoughts?
>>
>>148592508
Token, arde is a meme
>>
>>148592212
>Archer2Hunter3
No AoE, no super strong DPS aside from Retrieving, basically useless on non-flying bosses.
>>
>>148592508
Token 1st

its fine to buy or farm Arde at middle 1xx too
>>
>>148587728
I want to fuck that pelt.
>>
>>148592508
Get a token.
>>
>>148592403
Yes, I listened to /tosg/s memes about fencernobi and how shinobi can easily solo.

They were correct, you can easily solo even at storage torch event but what no-one ever fucking said is that whilst in memenobi bushin form your gear breaks 5x as fast so you will use every single tp you get daily on tp scrolls and still not have enough.

I spend more time walking too and from town than grinding. I'm crafting a second grynas set right now because of this too.

>>148592385
Doesn't help, 10mins max before all gear breaks unless this changes when you're not soloing for that delicious 10 mil per hour exp and silver gain.
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>>148588093
Fug I was always scared something like this might happen I hope it doesn't.
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>>148592212
On my Wizard I regret going Thauma+RC, Wiz3 Thauma 3 isn't as strong as I would've though and I'd rather have more offensive power, RC lacks it, even with hueg Destruction/Justice.

On my cleric, I regret going Cleric C3 and Sadhu C3, Transmit Prana is not nearly as reliable or with the uptime to be interesting to have, it's effectiveness is hit or miss due to several elememes going CON, and I'M FUCKING SICK OF IT WHIFFING WHEN I HIT SOMEONE. I should've gone Diev C1 and Druid. Even with Kabbalist + Transmit Prana someone (which I thought would make UNLIMITED POWER! wizards), it doesn't end up nearly as strong. It's good that I have a scaling buff (even if every class is getting them next patch).
>>
>>148592656
>mfw when I'm 200 and I don't have an arde dagger
>>
>do Saalus for the first time
>this is actually exciting
>we hurdle through five bosses and their minions
>none of them are dropping anything or even giving experience
>kill the last boss
>Talt, would you like to reroll for 200,000 silver
>You have used up your run for the day please come back tomorrow
Uhmmm
>>
>watch news
>Turkey's coup
>France attacked, again
>ask Steam friends if they're dead or not
>"yes"

I should stop making friends from wartorn countries.
>>
>>148592895
fine too. game is easy.

and they are kinda cheap....
>>
>>148592651
>has multimeme and retrieving
>no strong dps
>>148592851
>wiz 3 thaum 3 rc
why?
>>
isn't arde only good for like, 2 classes? why does everyone want one?
>>
>>148592630
>>148592656
>>148592785
Thanks guys. I'm guessing the farm time will be at Dina.
>>
>>148593109
it adds dmg to all attacks. other elemental subweapons/shield do that too. hats also.
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>>148593173
No it won't farm time will be at demon prison since every channel in dina bee has an afk high level necro/sorc
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>>148592851
Incoming thauma scaling buff soon, you dun goofed at RC part though
>>
>>148592998
First character, never had hit 100+ on the betas. Train of thought was amassing the most buffs and +damage possible and releasing massive damage every once in a while, photon cannon build people make. Since FC and other spells show "only deal x damage" and not actually hit count (or specify that hit count still carries 100% stats rather than something like 100/hits% stats), I thought the most scaling skills were Meteor, Justice and Destruction. Not the case, and I have a LV 230 sitting sadly now that R8 classes doesn't fix his problem. I'll probably become an Enchanter to sell LV5 Swell Body Scrolls or something if they work like Pardoner, still waiting on all their spells since Sage only got 3 revealed and most classes get at least 4 on C1.
>>
>>148593249
In reality, all it does is to make things a bit easier early on, some classes do just fine without a meme dagger and others won't even use it later on
>>
>>148593376
How much is the scaling buff?
>>
>>148593379
Rip anon, I don't think r8 can save it besides scrolls that world boss people MAY use if you're lucky.

On the upside, the korean buff to thaum means you have +70% magic attack total on top of the swell buffs.
>>
>>148593492
yea true.
for solo and dps classes.. extra dmg is always nice
>>
>>148593348
gg IMC. Guess I'll be rushing to 141 then thanks.
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>>148593376
Isn't there any RC buff? Right now I'm just being a buff slave for a friend CryoKino, which is nice since he doesn't waste a circle on it.

>>148593594
Any news on how the system works? Same with prices as Pardoners? I can't go any other way with this build, damage is irrelevant since RC can't compare with Lock/Necro/Elementalist, and I can't say I'm going to support with Sage with two circles solely for a +dmg buff. Thauma scroll shop is the only thing that I can go unfortunately.

Sucks that this character has all the hair achievements.
>>
>>148593892

>>148593892

>>148593892

migrate
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How much HP should a EleLock have for 210+ grind?
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>>148594035
somewhere above 3k and under 5k
>>
>>148594240
>being a sub-260 shitter
>>
>>148594035
>210
>EleLock
You're either 223+ or you're not an EleLock yet, champ.

And the lower HP you are the worse you are at the game.
>>
>>148582394
whats all that con for?
>>
how much do thick chains go for? I don't see any on the market.
>>
>>148596593
Rance is the most lovable of our PVP autists.
>>
>>148596593
I built this character with a focus on PVP where a higher survivability goes a long way toward being useful in lagging ass 2FPS. If you don't intend to PVP, 30-40 CON is probably plenty.
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