/twg/ - Total War General

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>>148524432
Rollan!

>>148524432
good edition

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REMOVE GOAT remove goat

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>>148524432
CIVILIZED HUMAN-FILTH GET OUT!!!!!
PEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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>boris_todbringer_turn_17.jpeg

The campaign gameplay would be greatly improved if they reverted armies' and cities' sphere back to the NTW system

>>148524617
>revert armies' and cities' sphere back to the NTW system
What do you mean?

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Only game were the most powerful wizards are "dat boi".

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WHO /beastmen/ HERE?

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>>148524747
>dat boi

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>Fantasy game
>no elves
>just one waifu unit

What the fuck are you doing CA?

>>148524747
Boy am i glad that meme died out quick.

>>148524617
I though empire and nappy campaign maps were the best too, the AI was kinda shit at defending the "town" but still

What's so appealing about Beastmen?

They seem like a shitty WoC.

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>>148524798
B E S T
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M E N
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>>148524843
>>148524818

>>148524910

Nothing. They were the least popular TT race.

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>>148524935
>tumblr

>>148524910

Nobody bought them. Nobody played with them. They were utter trash-tier. Let's hope the game makes them a bit stronger.

>>148524928
Now with 25% less Beast

Thanks CA

>>148524824
They need to fix the damsels when they release Bretonnia. Right now they are ugly old hags wearing a burlap sack dress, instead of the sexy spellcasting waifu they are supposed to be.

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>>148524464
Rolling for Malagor!

>>148524910
They look good aesthetically, but practically they are shit.

They will likely be shit in TWW too because
>low leadership
>glass cannons that rely on ambushing

>>148524824
>one waifu unit
what?

>>148525051

They are ultra boring. Just like Tomb Kings.

And GW refused to make them interesting for years.

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>>148525039
>drake

>>148525051
>>148525180
They were for a long time not their own faction

Then they got ripped out of Chaos and made into their own race with hardly any work put into it

>>148524464
stop rolling dwarfs

>>148524910
>always had an affinity for humans with beastial qualities.

>take druids that transform into bears whenever option is available in a game
>beast was my favourite guy in the xmen cartoon
>play donkey kong in smash 64

The primal powah of the beastmen is the appeal, it's a cool archetype.

>furries got popular and tarnished the whole damn thing

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>no Ghorgon

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>>148525192
>le memed

>>148525267
>>furries got popular and tarnished the whole damn thing
Seriously, fuck furries.

>>148525232
How can one single person fuck up so hard

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>>148525125

Seriously, they look like if they were 70 or something. When they are supposed to be eternally young and fae like.

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>>148524910
They are, but that makes them more fun to play somewhat in an underdog type of way.

>>148525226

GW's recent history is nothing but dumb decisions.

They changed shit that never needed changing and refused to change shit that really needed changing.

And then suddenly decided that WHFB has no future and just axed it.

>>148525051

btw. "Their magic/lore" is pretty nice.

>>148525486
>slaughter [...] like cattle
Lel

>>148525051
>>148524910
Earlier editions of Beastmen were troubled but they were interesting enough - perhaps not the most competitive.

Then 6th edition ripped out most of their flavour, even removing marks completely and they just got left in the dust when 7th came round.
Glotkin resolved some major issues but to little and much to late.

It's a shame, they were my first army... the terribly painted fuckers.

>>148525515
One day GWS will die and be forced to sell out to someone better

one day...

>>148524910
>Shitty WoC
chuckle/10

>>148525558
Additionally they were the true children of chaos - the Norscan were ultimately petty kingdoms/clans who went to war primarily for their own glory.
For the complete opposite of Beastmen on the spectrum see Chaos Dwarves.

>>148525653

They should just sell WH to FFG already.

>>148525795
>implying owner of most popular wargame in the world will buy WH

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>RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

What did he mean by this?

>>148524464
Rollmemeing

>>148526124
>THEY DIDNT MAKE MY FACTION GOOD FUCK YOU CAAAAAAA

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/180618/quick-q-a-call-of-the-beastmen/p1

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/180618/quick-q-a-call-of-the-beastmen/p1

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/180618/quick-q-a-call-of-the-beastmen/p1

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>>148526542
New Campaign map

>>148526542
beastpath maps look sick

i know people are upset about the price but if the future DLC are all adding maps and big regions like this I'm totally fine with it

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>>148526542

my dick

>>148526542
>As with the other races we can’t include every unit unfortunately. Mostly this is down to time and cost and as nearly every unit is unique and often very elaborate, we get to a point where the price for the player just gets too high. For example, adding the Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne.
What a load of bullshit these cunts are filled with

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>>148525356
>tfw centaurs are rad as shit but have been fetishized by furries

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>For example, adding the Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne.

>>148526542
>Yes, stay tuned for news on Update 2 (which will include additional features for multi-player), and the free-LC will be the Amber Wizard for the Empire, introducing the Lore of Beasts into the game for the first time. He can also level up to acquire a distinctive variation of the Empire Griffon mount.


Oh fug, get hyped.

>>148526542
>For example, adding the Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne.
How low effort was the previous dlc.

>>148526542
>stay tuned for news on Update 2 (which will include additional features for multi-player)

Wonder what that is.

>>148526542
>comments already defending them not putting in the full roster
Great. My dream game is officially dead at the sound of retards shouting "WELL ITS GOOD ENOUGH"

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>>148526682
>>148526669
>>148526717

Is this real?

>It's real

>>148526542
>For example, adding the Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne.
do they think we're stupid

>>148526669
that's true though, second cycle teams are much smaller and have smaller budgets

it's something that can always get added in later if people really want it

how much will GW get from the sales of dlc?

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>>148526542
The Drakwald is scary.

>>148526763
It kinda feels like they had a way more strict budget for TWW compared to E.G Rome 2.

>>148526763
>it's something that can always get added in later if people really want it
Except they wont because now they cant charge for it

Fucking selfish greedy jews

>>148526845
This map looks legit cool tbqh.

>>148526865
>they cant charge for it

Yes they can

>>148526748
>my dream game is officially dead.
>just because no Jabberslythes.

kek

>>148526883
Yeah, looks like a lot of work went into it.

>>148526813
Nothing. If they do get anything, then we know who is behind the prices.

>>148526920
>Thanks for buying the Beastmen DLC
>Now buy the Beastmen DLC #2
CA would literally burn

>>148526748
I don't think you comprehend how impossible having literally everything in the warhammer universe put into the game.

Some things are going to be left out, some things you might care about, some things only other people will.

>>148526929
>30% of the army is missing
>now CA is going to phone it in on all the factions and charge bullshit amounts for it

>We’ve got loads of gameplay coming up next week so you’ll be able to see everything in action and we will make sure Youtubers will get it early so they can offer you their thoughts too.
Not this shit again.

But I don't want Chaos Warhounds

>Essentially, Call of the Beastmen required around three times more content and effort than previous large DLCs we’ve done, mainly due to the array of new creature models, animations, art, environments etc.

>As with the other races we can’t include every unit unfortunately. Mostly this is down to time and cost

So they've increased the price for no reason?

>>148527031
>6 units
>4 of which didnt even need new skeletons
They are lazy as fuck you fucking shill

>>148526939
Chances are they get a fixed % of the revenue

Jewing is the only thing Gdubs does right

>>148527172
>new race
>new maps
>new campaign
>new animations
>new animations for blood & gore
>new animations for them fighting every other race

i don't like it but it makes sense

>>148527031
>putting in 6 more units where only 1 or 2 tops would need actual work
>TOO HARD LOL
Cant wait until every other new faction is missing 6+ fun units so all we get is the boring generic ones because faggots like you excused this shit

>>148527251
You also have voice acting. And voice acting for every race encounter(if they actually did that though). That can get pretty expensive.

>>148527251
CA lies about this type of shit all the time, its entirely made up bullshit.

Had this been DLC for Rome 2 they would have said the exact same bullshit.

new multiplayer shit.
fek yeah. now i can be MLG

>>148524464
reaaallly wanna fap to slaanesh (probably do it anyway)

but remember if we keep bitching about the price, they might add additional stuff.
Just look how fast we got information after people started to complain.

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>>148527275
>because faggots like you excused this shit

Excusing this shit on /twg/ doesn't matter. Same with complaining really.

All of this shit should go on the official forums desu.

Post total war webms pls

>>148527031
I can get behind the "adhering to 8th edition" to justify being lazy with Kislev&friends, but not about "missing some of the most unique units in the roster because 2hard2do, on an already overpriced DLC"

>>148527251

I think 9/10 people would prefer a properly put together and fleshed out beastmen faction they can play with in the grand campaign and battles instead of having to pay more than double the price of a race pack for a miniscule campaign you'll play once or twice at the most. Since their excuse for leaving units out is time and money, think of all the time and money they wasted on the mini campaign.

>>148527429
>CA doesnt shill here
Best troll iv heard all week

Gorebeast chariots worth anything in late game?

>>148527251
>new animations for them fighting every other race
Except that's wrong you retard

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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>>148527478
They don't give a fuck about complaints posted here. You are wasting your time. Fight the good fight on the reddit or total war forum.

>>148527510

Nah, if they get bogged down which they always seem to do they get killed pretty quick. Get Chaos Knights instead.

>>148527561
>WAAHH STOP POINTING OUT HOW IM A MORON
Fuck off shill

>>148527510
They are some of the best chariots in the game (maybe behind the Black Coach)

But they are still chariots so…

>>148527251
>new animations
>new animations for blood & gore
>new animations for them fighting every other race
I'll believe this when I see it, most of the animations are probably ripped straight from units already in game

>new campaign
that nobody wants

>>148527310
>VA
its a good thing its more limited then in previous titles isnt it? in Attila there are lines for accepting and rejecting agreements, breaking agreements, depending on their type, religion and faction, and declaration of war

tw:w only has VA for the greetings

>>148526639
Ok, now we need a faction unlocker for that campaign.

Imagine playing as Hochland and fighting against a beastmen Guerrilla campaign in the deep forests with Greenskins hordes at your back.

Or playing as the Greenskin tribes and launching a great WAAAGH! from the forests, laying waste to the lands of the White Wolf.

I'm game.

>>148527638
>>WAAHH STOP POINTING OUT HOW IM A MORON

That really looks like it applies to you. Unless you are just pretending or whatever.

>>148527275
>>148527443
you don't have to buy it, nobody bought them on tabletop either

Bestman stream when fellow shitters?

>>148526754
Charlemagne was just a minor reskin and some scripted events, so it could make sense.

>>148527661
The unit quotes are still great and more extensive. You also got the quest battles I guess.

>First they came for the Beastmen, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a Beastmen fan.

>Then they came for the Wood Elves, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a Wood Elf fan.

>Then they came for the Skaven, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a Skaven fan.

>Then they came for my faction—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Look at your favorite factions unit list, now cut off its coolest units. Thats what CA is going to do to you.

>>148527661
>I'll believe this when I see it, most of the animations are probably ripped straight from units already in game

Looks like there is a new kill animation for minotaurs in that one pic.

>it's funny how it's to expensive yet modders will add the missing units day fucking 1 for free

In Drakwald Forest, cattle slaughters you.

>>148527032
>30% of the army is missing

Three units?

>>148527716
>I know you are but what am I
Really shill? Thats the best you got?

Kill yourself

>>148527275
>where only 1 or 2 tops would need actual work

I don't think you know anything about games development anon. All of this shit needs work.

>>148527752
Most of the streams start 2pm UK time, don't they? (That's two hours from now, for non-britbongs.)

>>148527828
>Not getting all the units for your warhams is comparable to nazi exterminations
You monumental twatbadger.

>>148527725

Maybe this is all just part of some insane GW scheme to try and make people resent WHFB so they'll buy Age of Smegmar shit instead.

They're one of the most ass backwards and out of touch hobby/entertainment companies on the planet outside of Japan so it wouldnt be too much of a stretch.

>>148526639
It's much smaller than all the other mini campaign isn't it?

>>148527869
Its 6, and Beastmen only have 13 actual units ignoring reskins and rehashes

>>148527752
Next friday?

>>148527862
Yeah, they just need to take the four-armed giant model that's currently in the game, reskin it, and boom, ghorgon.

>>148527945
thanks!

>>148527994
what? I thought it was today

>>148527828
>I apply Holocaust poetry to video game DLC
>I'm not a manchild.


>>148527954
Seems to be only slightly smaller to HatG. That had 19 provinces, this has 17.

>>148527862

Nigger the best modders can do is throw in vargheists and other monsters to try and compensate since the modding in this game is restricted at every last detail.

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>>148527916
What the hell??

>>148528013
nah but they'll take the wargulfs and make thme into harpies

>>148528019
>>148527994
It's tuesday.

>>148527945
>muh nazi analogies
ran out of arguments shill?

>>148528019
q&a from earlier today says next friday

>>148527945
>>148528025
>First they came for the Beastmen, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a Beastmen fan.

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>>148528098
wot

>>148527945
>>148528103
>>148528025
Not him but that poem is about more than just Nazis, its about how people dont care about others even when its in their best interest to do so.

t. poetry fag

What does the Vampire count?

>>148528179
>>148528104
>>148528098
>>148527945
Look at the end of the trailer, it says the 19th.

>>148528237

This 5.

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Is accuse still really OP?

>>148528090
how exactly? because outside texture edits (with no option for alpha channel in most cases) nothing can be done

>>148527862
Because CA are hacks. They know they can get away with it so they will cut costs everywhere.

>>148528291
>how exactly?
autism. I've seen modders do things you wouldn't believe

>>148528390
The alf cavalry inc.

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>>148528285

I have surpassed 4

>>148528430

Probably the greatest thing that will come out of TWW's horrible modding capability.

>>148528286
Are those Reiksguard helbards?

>>148528390
not on TWW for sure

calling "mod support" to editing some limited database is shady marketing

And editing the textures relies on redirecting texture paths, so the "mod support" doesn't apply here

It's the reason most decent mods are Empire reskins, human models are the only thing there is

IF 7 BEASTMEN WILL BE THE LAST PATCH UNTIL 2017

>>148524464
roll'an

>>148526542
>now that we made our money on the main game we are going to give up and release half ass products because you faggots will buy it anyway
And I thought CA were becoming the good guys

>>148528556

Shit sucks, man. I wonder if this is what a consolefag trying to find good mods for fallout 4 feels like.

>>148528653
If you think anything in this DLC is half-assed, you have a warped view indeed.

Missing some key units because it would have been a lot of work is lazy yes, but that doesn't mean the rest of it hasn't had a lot of work put in.

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>17,49 €
>6 units from TT missing
>only two out of assumed 3 Legendary Lords
>not even any unique Middenland units included
>there are 4chanarians who defend it

>>148528743
>can only play beastmen in this "new" campaign
lmao

>>148528743
They half assed it and are charging a stupid amount for it. CA are the same old hacks they always were.

>>148528692
>I wonder if this is what a consolefag trying to find good mods for fallout 4 feels like.
shit, this analogy is so perfect I'm gonna save it

>Browse Steam Workshop
>X mod
>X mod (radious patch)
>X mod (200% income)
>X mod (400% income)
>Better Lords pack
>Better Lords (only Grimgor)
>Better Lords (only Thorgrim)
>repeat until a thousand mods
this is the Modding community

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>>148526639
The beastmen map seems to have so few cities. Just look how many regions the Hannibal map has.

>>148528762
they're reddit users, ignore them.

>>148528743
>but that doesn't mean the rest of it hasn't had a lot of work put in.

At least we get to look at that on the stream. Shame the discount doesn't last over release day.


>>148528762
>tfw 12 euro for me


>>148528797
No.

>>148526639
>10 hours of """"Content""""""
Lets hope this is the last time they do one of these stupid ass maps

>>148528851
I'm guessing that's because there's more factions and geographic variety. The new campaign is only smaller by a half dozen cities or so.

>>148528797
>Adding a new campaign is half-assed.

>>148528840
>WAAAAAAAHHHH, THEY DIDN'T ADD HARPES, THIS ENTIRE DLC IS SHIT

>>148528943
>>WAAAAAAAHHHH, THEY DIDN'T ADD HARPES, THIS ENTIRE DLC IS SHIT
Not him but out of all the units missing Harpies would have been easy as shit and was a pure and simple case of them being lazy as fuck.

They could have used one of the vampire flying units. Jesus slap some tits on the bats and they are harpies.

>>148528902
Reddit has been more critical(often on pure principle) of CA than /twg/ for a while now desu.

Funny how Arch seems pretty ok with this dlc. Probably because of norwegian prices.

>>148528934
>10-20 hours to complete

That's what they really said, and that's not counting mods and such that'll make use of it, multiple difficulty settings, and failed campaigns.

>>148528851
52 settlements on the beastmen map by my count. That's not that bad.

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>>148528286
>my remaining infantry

>>148528514
I'm sorry, but yes

>>148528902

Nah reddit is shitting on the dlc too, at least in regards to many of their best units being cut.

Also, well done CA for making excuses instead of working towards rectifying your laziness and poor decisions, you crumpet chewing fags.

>>148529012
No one is going to make mods for something no one is going to play, the ONLY reason people are buying this DLC is for the Beastmen on the main campaign.

>and failed campaigns.
Pfhthahaha, Jesus Christ what sort of literal moron fails at a TW campaign.

>>148526639
This map looks good for a empire civil war mod(with only a few inhuman factions).

>>148526639
you'd think they'dh vae a faction in Bretonnia. Killing beastmen is literally all the wood elves ever do.

>>148528762
dumb frogposter

>>148529012
>counting mods and such that'll make use of it, multiple difficulty settings, and failed campaigns.
Yeah, no.

Tops the campaign will take 10 hours and then you'll ditch it for the main campaign never to be played again.

CA is wasting their time. All people want is the main factions on the main campaign map, thats it. This shit is nickel and diming people.

>>148529116
I lost on turn 3 with oda in shogun 2 when playing it for the first time. That kind of start situation was totally new for me.

>>148529049
Age of Charlemagne had 52 PROVINCES

>>148529128

They will in the grand campaign, most likely.

>>148529206
you guys are forgetting that previous TW games just had copy pasted units whereas Warhammer units are much more detailed an unique

>>148529193
Lots of people liked the campaign packs for Attila and Rome II, and lots of people were calling for campaign play involving beastmen and the Empire like in Call of Warhammer.

Since the Empire in the GC is too small to fully do it justice, why not build a full campaign designed entirely around the Beastmen's Guerrilla war with the Empire?

Just dumping them in the GC wouldn't have done them justice, dedicating a portion of the game to a dedicated beastmen campaign set in the Drakwald does.

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>>148528762

>$18.89 CAD

>>148529335
what's that like 5 USD?

>>148526639
So will we be able to play as anyone other than Beastmen???

It would be very cool to play a varient of the normal factions, give them a unique lord and reskins of units, maybe a couple unique units.

>>148529275
It's not about the units but the campaign map. It wouldn't have been so hard to add more cities to make it more interesting. I guess after one playthough it will be boring because it's so small

>>148529275
Well TWW got some copy pasted units. They are only within their respective factions/races though.

>>148529298
>Lots of people liked the campaign packs for Attila and Rome II, and lots of people were calling for campaign play involving beastmen and the Empire like in Call of Warhammer.
>making shit up to save face
Fuck off shitposter.

>>148529365
Not vanilla, I imagine mods will be all over it though.

>>148529371
it is about the units because they take up time and resources too

I know the ideal situation is to have everything but I doubt they're being floated infinite money like Sony funding a Kojima game

>>148529398
Well, people did like age of charlemagne.

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>>148529335
>living in canada

>>148529398
What were you trying to achieve be saying that anon? Did you just get angry because you realised my point had merit?

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>>148529079
>Beat the shit out of Louen
>Make peace with status quo terms
Such is the brutal age of neverending war

Beast fags should read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4sw91x/complete_statistical_breakdown_of_the_new/

TL;DR: The Beastmen faction is significantly smaller (~43% less unique unit content) and largely reskins existing faction mechanics on the grand campaign map.

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>>148529482
>entirely baseless claim
>proven false by just looking at Steam
Sure thing shitposter, im so mad, grrrr.

>>148529579
And yet it means literally fucking nothing, why?
>...I am buying this DLC...
And thats why CA fucks consumers in the ass and shits down their throats for desert, because even when they are called out on their bullshit people bend over backwards and purchase it all anyway.

>>148524464
rolling

>>148529416
Thats really lazy.

It's a "People getting mad over DLC" episode again.

Someone change the channel.

>>148528851
Beastmen is more scripted kinda like Last Roman.
Plus its 52 settlements on an enlarged map of the Empires forests. Each region looks large with fair distance between most places.

Solid size.

For those that don't buy the DLC they get essentially 3 free contents that day with the Empire hero, the lore of amber and the AI Beastmen to the campaign map. Not bad at all.

It's insane that making the Jabberslythe alone would have took the entire budget of the Age of Charlemagne DLC for Attila.

Do we still get beastpath battles if we dont buy it?

The content the update will bring seems pretty good on its own, we still fight beastmen and get a new lore of magic.

Might be worth just not getting the DLC.

>>148529607
You assume there isn't any difference between the people buying and playing and the people giving reviews.

>>148529763
It reminds me of Napoleon's campaigns a bit.

You never know, the story might really be focused on Khazrak with a lot of unique shit to it, and not lazy at all.

>Nearly all empire provinces got razed by the time the first chaos wave hits
simply ebin

>>148529789
Where's the channel changer!?

>>148528797
Beastmen are playable in Grand Campaign,MP and Custom aswell as their own story campaign in a self contained enlarged campaign map of the Drakwald Forest and surrounding lands.

Those that don't buy it get Beastmen AI on the grand campaign map anyway albeit even more limited but still another threat to contend with.

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>>148529927
>b-but people LOVE standalones!
>p-poor reviews mean nothing! those people are just haters!
Here is your last (you)

>>148529789
People getting mad over dlc is good but I only wish people could take it to the official forums.

>>148528930
>>148530027
>too austic to understand that he meant "Only the beastmen are playable in the new campaign"

>>148530050
Wrath of Sparta was legit shit though, that's why I didn't mention it.

>>148529789

Soon it's going to be fine for a RPG or FPS game to release half of the story day1 then add the rest through 5 20$ DLC's.

This is what you retards are defending.

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What did he mean by this?

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>>148530114
People are taking it to the official forums. Unless CA add something until the release the DLC reviews on Steam are going to tank.

>>148526639
If Beastmen can't settle then why are parts of the map covered in their colours?

>tfw Beastmen and Chaos spreading corruption.
Empire are already fucked as it is and now we have to contend with invisible fucking encamped armies that MOVE as standard in another factions AMBUSH stance.

Fuck my empire up lad.

>>148530331
instead of going on about it here for several threads(if that happens)

>>148530358
There are two orc tribes. All the other colours are Empire factions(With Marienburg to the west).

>>148530358
>If Beastmen can't settle then why are parts of the map covered in their colours?

They aren't. What you see there are the colours for the two Middenland factions, Hochland, Marienburg, and the Greenskins.

>Empire are already fucked as it is and now we have to contend with invisible fucking encamped armies that MOVE as standard in another factions AMBUSH stance.

The beastmen don't start in the Empire in the GC.

>>148529879
Exactly what I'm doing considering now that Beastmen are being added an AI limited roster race anyway(just like CW if you don't own them)

Its just 10% discount for buying now its worth the extra small amount of cash if it means a great story focused mini campaign and fun playable faction. Gonna have to wait for reviews and playthroughs. Joey is playing the grand campaign next week including Eye for an Eye story campaign.

>>148530305
And if that does happen do you know what you do?

Don't buy it.

That will hurt them more.

>>148530331
>Unless CA add something until the release the DLC reviews on Steam are going to tank.
Oh that reminds me to do that

But seriously, if this is the "quality" of future DLC then they might as well just stop now

>>148530442
>They aren't. What you see there are the colours for the two Middenland factions, Hochland, Marienburg, and the Greenskins.
My bad. Just noticed. Thanks.
It's a first for CA not to have other playable factions in a mini campaign. Sounds like its heavily scripted and removes replay value.
>The beastmen don't start in the Empire in the GC.
True but they're a big threat even more so if you own the DLC which gives the AI their full rosters.

>>148529869
>It's insane
Its called a 'lie'

>>148530442
>The beastmen don't start in the Empire in the GC.

Then where the hell do they start?

>>148530358
>now we have to contend with invisible fucking encamped armies that MOVE as standard in another factions AMBUSH stance.
Honestly this worries me. They need to seriously nerf Norscan tribes to try and balance it out.

>>148530750
Khazrak starts in Estalia, Malagor starts in the badlands.

>>148530832
>Malagor starts in the badlands.

How do they justify that?

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The real question is

WILL BORIS GET HIS OWN MODEL OR JUST A GENERIC LORD SKIN?

>CA didn't say anything about it

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>148530750
From the Steam page:
>A Beastmen Grand Campaign may be led by one of two Legendary Lords: the fearsome Beastlord Khazrak The One Eye, or the blasphemous Bray-Shaman, Malagor The Dark Omen.
>Each has their own skill trees, abilities, quest-chains, legendary items, and Grand Campaign start positions. Khazrak begins the Grand Campaign in the Tobaro Region of Estalia, while Malagor begins play in The Marshes of Madness, deep in the Badlands.

>>148530750
Near Tilea and in the badlands. I hope there are beastmen subfactions in the GC though.

>>148530750
Tilea and the Badlands.

So it's either start next to "Not Empire" or Orcs and Dwarfs

>>148530873
Probably magic stuff hunting.

>>148530750
Ostland apparently meaning you'll be facing Beastmen and Chaos to the north and northwest aswell as Vampires to the east. Beastmen will also have sub factions based around the old world like the Badlands. Plus they move in ambush stance permanently, can pass forests with their "Beast Paths"(Underway clone) mechanic and when encamped are invisible.

Lets not forget Beastmen have the Waaaagh mechanic.

Oh boy and so far these factions are only a small part of Warhammers main factions.
By the end of the trilogy this game is going to be one serious clusterfuck.

>>148530873
Gives orcs and dorfs somebody else to fight, shakes things up in that part of the map. (I assume that's why khazrak's where he is too, means tilea and estalia have a threat from the start of the game.)

In-universe, I have no idea what he's doing there. Maybe he had a quest battle just before the campaign started.

>>148530874
They'd have to, like at worst all they'd have to do is make a new head model.

The real question is, given the name of the campaign is this pre-eye loss? if so does that mean the grand campaign model will be post eye loss?

>>148530442
>The beastmen don't start in the Empire in the GC.

LL's don't. But there sure as fuck will be other factions on the map.

How many beastmen factions will there be in the grand campaign?

>>148531235
Probably 2-3, but I'm sure they will re-appear just like savage orcs

>12 days until Estalia stop raping half of Bretonnia in every campaign

RIP

>>148531648

Rape monsters starting there is also a good thing for Wood Elves campaign.

>>148530874
Don't you get it? They can't: It would cost as much as 3 jabberslythes!


I still cringe when I see Marius model in the campaign

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So do I understand this correctly, that the Beastmen will not appear on the original map (/game), but will have their own map?

Kinda disappointing...

>this is the most ambitious, expensive, over the top TW game ever
>probably going to be the most expensive, over the top TW game for a very very very long time
>wasted time and money on shit like minicampaigns
1 map
All factions

ITS SO FUCKING SIMPLE CA WHY ARE YOU HELLBENT ON RUINING IT

>>148531847
Nah, they'll be in the grand campaign as well. In fact, they'll appear as an NPC race even if you don't buy the DLC.

>Zoomed hellcannon first time.
>Chaos Dawi.

>Got into MP vs 2 Cancer Vampires
>Made them rekt with Dawi Runemaster and 2 gunners squad.

Today was a good day.

>>148531847
No, pretty much they'll be in the grand campaign map AND in this side story campaign map.

They're even being added into the game as a NPC race for the people who don't buy the pack like Chaos was.

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>>148530992
I feel bad for Dwarf and Greenskin players if the map expands east and south. At the moment they're tucked away in their little corner of the map, but add in Tomb Kings to the South and Ogres and DAWI ZHARR in the East and they're pretty fucked.

>>148532136
add rats with underground tunnels all over the map and everyone get rekt.

>>148532136
As if greenskins and dwarfs don't need buffs already...

Every fucking release there's non stop complaints and drama bullshit.

If the full beastmen roster were released there'd still be complaints.
You knew we'd be getting jewwed with DLC when the base game only had 4-5 factions.
The complete game is probably set to be >$360 over the course of 3 years, pretty fucking affordable. It's a large and lofty undertaking. From a pure business perspective this shit is plenty justifiable.

if you're mad cause you're poor, go do something more constructive with your time.

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Do i have to buy the beastmen DLC to fight them? I just want to slaughter walking cows not play as them.

>>148532236

In campaign Dwarves are the easiest to play.

>>148532274
nah, they are on the GC as AI faction

>>148532331
Not against a stronk greenskins if they confederate and fuck the region up

>>148532136
Nah. At the moment the dwarf/greenskin campaign is boring as shit once you've dealt with the greenskins/dwarfs. More directions to expand and be attacked from would get me playing those campaigns again.

>>148532274

Supposedly no. They will be added for everyone. Just not playable like Chaos.

Is there any reason not to sit on your taxes and not aggress anyone for a couple of rounds?

>>148532331
They are still one of the weakest factions

Dwarfs need a flat increase to armor for all their base troops, and Orcs need better AP units. Honestly Orc Boys with 2handers and Big'Uns with 2handers would solve one of the Orcs biggest issues.

>>148532263
I'm just baffled at people being so mad about the jabberslyth being missing. I have never, ever seen a beastman player with a jabberslyth model, but now it's apparently an essential part of their roster or something.

>>148532475
Well there is no time limit so no reason not to if you dont get bored.

You can finish the campaign in 100 or 1000 turns, dont matter to the campaign.

>>148532527
>the TB is shit so the game has to be shit too!
GWS pls stahp

>>148532412
Then just declare war on everyone....

>>148532527
Couldn't they just re-skin an griffin?

>>148532263
>If the full beastmen roster were released there'd still be complaints.
There would be far fewer than there are now

>no harpies
>a unit that is literally bats, but with tits
>no doom bull
>a unit that is literally a Minotaur, but bigger and armored

Missing out on some of the other stuff I can understand, I actually believe that Jabber would have cost a fuckton to make. But there are units that they could have added easily that they didnt and that pisses me off.

>>148532690
that would cost seven jabberwockies

>>148532609
If tabletop beastmen players cared about their power level they'd have played a different army. What I meant was, the jabba wasn't generally considered to fit in with the beastmen theme/aesthetic by most, (otherwise they'd be taking it in their fluffy armies,) so people claiming the beastmen roster is "incomplete" without it seems ridiculous.

>>148532263
I just love that people in this day and age are surprised they have to pay for additional content. It's been the norm for a hell of a long time now.

I mean shit, they're even releasing a bunch of free content to go with it. And from the sounds of it even if you don't buy it you'll still get to play against them as a AI faction, that's basically a demo of the content.

Like of all things to crusade against with DLC, this really isn't that bad.

>>148532843
It has nothing to do with the TB balance or people who play it (spoiler alert, next to no one plays Warhammer and the TB).

The fact is some major units got cut, and this bodes poorly for future DLC as well.

CA are willing to not do Jabber, so what is missing next? No Hell Abomination or Doom Wheel? No Treeman Ancient or Treekin? No Stegadon and Troglodon?

Because most of those units are going to be way harder than Jabber would ever have been.

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>Browsing past the general
>See more beastmen posting than normal on the way by
>People saying they are actually announced and coming
>kek as if
>Go check
>Its real
Of all the fucking races these fucking memes are the 1st to get added.

>>148532527
Honestly the only one I'm miffed about is the harpies because they'd actually add something they don't have right now which is a air option.

But even then it sounds like they're adding ni Manticores as a summon-able unit? So i guess that covers that.

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>zooming into post victory after a town battle with beastmen

>>148533091
Makes sense thou. Everyone hates Beastmen (in lore that is) so its a good enemy to add to the campaign, and they can go everywhere so every faction has something else to fight.

>>148533091
Well they should have been there from the start(didn't need to be playable). They are pretty essential in the old world. They are the punching bag of most Order factions.

>>148533140
It's rude to call Hochlanders goats anon.

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>>148532690
>Couldn't they just re-skin an griffin?

Do you really want this?

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The next total war will be from 1500-1700 right? It has to happen.

>>148532527
I wanted it because I've seen what CA can do in terms of redesigns and would have loved to see it done properly, but all in all I'm madder for normal chariots, ghorthor and the ghorgon missing

>>148533060
>Because most of those units are going to be way harder than Jabber would ever have been.
Why? Jabba is said to be so complex to look at it literally drives people mad, how the fuck is that simpler to model than most monsters in warhammer?

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>>148533235
Close

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All these basement dwellers crying about a few bucks
Would you rather them just release the game and never patch it or never add anything to it the game? and there giving you poor fags free dlc anyway

>>148533140
>town battle

Well there is the problem.

Good riddance desu. I wish town garrisons would have gotten some deployable defences though

>>148533260
CA said they were making researchs about technologies "never seen before"

So it's either something in Asia or Victoria : Total War

>>148533326
Hi shill.
>Would you rather them just release the game and never patch it or never add anything to it the game?
Yep.

>>148533280
>Why? Jabba is said to be so complex to look at it literally drives people mad
nigga really?

really nigga?

>on attack chance to fear

Mmm, so hard

Empire 2 when?

DISREGARD JABBASLYTHS.
ACQUIRE MINOTAURS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaeCyXX3zg0
>That fucking horn suplex.

>>148532713
>>148532976

I just wanna enjoy and discuss some vidya with some bros and meme around. There's just no pleasing people.

2 popular opinions I've seen:

>Beastmen are a fucking nothing faction that nobody cares about, not too interested in their DLC
>These CRUCIAL units are missing and it's outrageous. Without them the game is certainly ruined.

I'm not that big on beastmen lore myself but I'm keen to give them a go. Harpies and doombulls seem pretty sweet but they haven't included them, I trust the guys making the game know what they're doing better than whiny faggets on the internet when it comes to units and faction balance.

If something does come from all this complaining and we get more stuff out of it I'll shut me yap but i think it's all pointless. That said: WHERES MY FUCKING SQUIGS CA YOU USELESS CUNTS

>>148533060
>No Hell Abomination or Doom Wheel?
>No Stegadon and Troglodon?
Pls, no

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>>148533358
I prefer the sieges in Warhammer to Attila

>>148533308
oooo loose skin folds. That's pretty hard to do actually.

>>148533560
They both work fine so that's why I like them.

>>148533484
Was that Imperial just going out for a random stroll in the Drakwald? He seemed pretty content before he got impaled.

>>148533560
>I prefer the sieges in Warhammer to Attila

Yeh how the AI never sieges you such good sieges so much better!

>>148526639
I dont get this map, the rivers dont match up. Where is altdorf supposed to be?

>>148533308
I don't get it, how can countless studios afford to make lot of bosses that look like this and still be afloat

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>THAT MINOTAUR HORN KILL ANIMATION

>>148533640
I have never fought a defensive siege battle in TWWH.

>>148533489
Agreed, the sad thing is I get the feeling this is how it's going to be for every release. Something will be missing and it will the be end of the world if it isn't it right away.

In all honestly I'd rather get most of a faction in and worry about adding the extra units in later. Besides Mods will fix it

Also: You're not wrong, CA you better add in Squigs at some point or I'm going to WAAAGH your offices

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>>148533646
I get sieged all the time in Warhammer m8, the fuckers never stop.

>>148533713
I have, though only a few times. The AI likes to build a fuckload of towers before attacking so it takes a few turns.

>>148533484
>Mine-o-tor

It's min-o-taur SAY IT RIGHT

>>148533560
Agreed I just wish they would balls up the AI so it attacked you more. The new sieges are fun

What will the Beastmen siege weapons look like?

>>148533945
Poo flinger catapult
Barrel of piss catapult

>>148533693
CA cant into making teams

Seriously, they needed to hire more animators if making skeletons was going to be so hard for them

>>148533945
Cygor.

Hey guys, need some help on the reinforcement bug. There is a battle I absolutely need to win, and I can, but at the start of it half of my forces are split up. That means they get squished and there isn't even a fight. I have tried moving my general to multiple spots around the town, but I have no idea how to make it so that they spawn right next to each other. Putting the general in the town makes it so the reinforcements spawn behind as well.

Is there a way to make sure you forces spawn together, or is it random?

>>148534045
>>148534005
What about Siege towers and Rams.

>>148534061
>Hey guys, need some help on the reinforcement bug. There is a battle I absolutely need to win, and I can, but at the start of it half of my forces are split up. That means they get squished and there isn't even a fight. I have tried moving my general to multiple spots around the town, but I have no idea how to make it so that they spawn right next to each other. Putting the general in the town makes it so the reinforcements spawn behind as well.
> Is there a way to make sure you forces spawn together, or is it random?
Buy the beastmen dlc it will fix it

>>148533945
Cygor

It's a catapult

>>148533712
> Believing that animation will be in the game based off of promotional video
> CA game
Best wait and see if it is indeed there before ejaculating, mate.

>>148534125
Towers of hardened poo with decapitated human heads covering it.

Ram is just a big log of shit that's been refined into a sturdy shape

>>148528285
nice.

>>148533738
>Mods will fix it

I have no hope for mods fixing anything, modders have been castrated so bad and the community as a whole is shite as evidenced by radious and no floppy hats mod

Best thing i've seen is our man with Moussilon, which looked bretty good. I thought it a shame though because expanded minor factions is something that would get official support.

I'm still holding hope that this Beastman campaign reskins the empire troops at least

>>148534125
They climb on the cygor's back and then jump onto the top of the wall.

Actually, joking aside, that would be pretty cool.

>>148534184
It was in that one screenshot too.

Also there actually is a hidden kill animation for lords against crypt horrors.

>>148534472
I think I've seen it in the gameplay video before the game released where Leon killed a crypt horrors. Just happened very rarely, which is a waste. They should've extended the animation to regular units, not just lords.

Still going to be cautious, this so-called animations sometimes are just in the videos as part of the in-game cutscenes, so wont see it anywhere during battle gameplay.

>>148534364
sounds like a shittier version of ladders desu

>>148529869
>It's insane that making the Jabberslythe alone would have took the entire budget of the Age of Charlemagne DLC for Attila.
it's not insane because it's not true, not even CA lied about it, making some cheap menus pictures is not the same as making a full DLC

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Store page broken?

>>148534983
>>148529869
>It's insane that making the Jabberslythe alone would have took the entire budget of the Age of Charlemagne DLC for Attila.
That's not actually what they wrote, but please do carry on bitching based on a misunderstanding of your own making.

>>148535105
>its not fake
Holy hell

>>148534983
>>148529869

It was the entire budget of the ARTWORK of the AOC dlc. Not the whole dlc.

Which could be true.

>>148532831
kek

>>148533235
No no not the demigryphs, the big ones like Deathclaw

>>148535105
Why did they let Darren update the steam page?

Did they fire him? We haven't even been shit posting about him

>>148535105
>Promo DLC A / B
WHAT COULD IT BE?

>>148535360
Naval DLC ofcurse

>>148535479
>water combat
>in TW
pls no

its always shit

>>148534704
>>148534184
None of the "Introducing"... videos have ever used animations that weren't in the game afaik, and that Minotaur gore seems to be very clearly a charge animation.

>>148535360
skins
or banners and army painter.

>>148535618
Now now lets not charge a-head of ourselves

http://youtu.be/lPDVrNHJLQw
introduction of the Dwarf Star

>>148532274
Viggo mortensen as estalian leader when?

>>148535748
You motherfucker.

>>148535819
>Ghorgor
Seriously this is just a reskinned Cygor why the fuck did they leave it out

>>148535820
That looks like an overcomplicated clusterfuck desu.

>>148535918
Whoa there dont gore me for it

>>148529462
People only pretended to like it for its setting.

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>you will never be as happy as this backstabbing goblin

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>Playing Attila as Alans
>Decide to settle north of the Caucasus mountains at the shore of the Black sea after a few years of raiding ERE lands
>Mfw ERE is too busy to bother me
>Mfw i can just slowly recolonise the steppes and build up my powerbase while watching ERE and the Sassanids tear at each other

Comfiest campaign i've had in a long while.

>>148533745
I have only fought 1! defensive siege battle in a legendary Cunts campaign

you get sieged all the time, but the fuckers never attack unless it's 4 doomstacks vs a garrison

>>148535820
>243 views

stop shilling your own video

>>148534196
>Towers of hardened poo with decapitated human heads covering it.
>decapitated human heads
you mean empty helmets right?

>>148535563
Fuck you

Napoleon and FotS was fun naval

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>tfw all your infantry is committed and chaos dogs got at your artillery crews

>>148535105
>Damage control as soon as some slav datamines DLC schedule, proving that everything was already laid out
>"lol outaded info :^)" -Grace
>it's been completely true so far