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/evog/ - Evolve General

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Cutest and most balanced waifu edition

http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/
http://evolve.wikia.com/wiki/Evolve_Wiki (Mostly outdated)

>What is Evolve (stage 2)?
Evolve uses an asymmetrical structure where five players, four playing as hunters and one as the monster, battle against each other in an industrialized alien planet called Shear.
Stage 2 is the transition to Free To Play + a lot of gameplay changes.

>I heard the game was dead?
It was (at least on PC). 100-200 players and little to no updates from the developers. If F2P can bring it back is unknown, but as of right now 18k people are playing it.

>Should I "get" it?
It's free. 18GB. Download and test it out.

>F2P Model?

Every week, four hunters (one of each class) and one monster will be in the free rotation. There are currently 24 Hunters and 7 Monsters in total, though some are variations of others. By playing the character tutorials, you unlock one hunter (Markov) and one monster (The Goliath) to keep forever.

Additional monsters, hunters, perks, and skins are unlocked by earning silver keys. Silver keys are earned by playing the game, leveling up, or getting login bonuses. Currently you can't actually buy silver keys, presumably so they can test the unlock rate, but that's coming later.

There is also a monthly login bonus punch card. You get one punch for each day you log in. Beyond silver keys, this can directly award new Hunters and Skins.

>What if I don't want to grind for characters and perks?
You can buy the game and it to gives your account full founder benefits, which gives you 30k keys and most characters.

>Microtransation?
None as of yet.

>Steam groupS:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/evolvevg
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vg-Evolve
>Discord:
https://discord.gg/EAjbq

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Is it too late to spend money on this game for 30k keys

im enjoying it but the progression speed is going to ruin it for me
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>>148513640
thru steam, yes.

You may be able to find a key on g2a or something.
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link to the upcoming patch notes
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/can-we-talk-about-the-balance-in-high-level-play/91716/28
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>another discord shill general
Just let it fucking die already. Its devolved into nothing but shitposting and was a bad idea to begin with.
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Where is best place to buy founders?
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>>148513640
go to a greymarket key selling site and buy one for like ~$8
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>>148513727
I never even visited the discord, just put it in there because I was putting everything in there.
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>>148513697
>>148513780

I'm tempted, because I'm enjoying it, but I also don't know if it's an actual founders key
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>>148513540
DO NOT JOIN THE CURRENT GROUPS

THEY ARE CANCER

also I want to marry Wraith-chan and make to her tenderly
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What perks are best for EMET?
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nth for wraith is so cute
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>>148513792
[spoilerI]Did you make the last general as well? I included a pasta for general-making purposes a couple threads ago that included most information, as well as the only functioning group right now.[/spoiler]
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>>148513913
Uninstall
Exit Steam
Shutdown the computer and reevaluate your life
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>>148513809
Thats the one I got, it comes with everything except for the last 4 hunters and gorgon. You may or may not get bob tho, cuz you cant guarantee that it'll be a preorder version or not.
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>>148513893
love*

fuck FUCK FUCK
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>>148514021
>spoilerl
Well fuck me.
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>>148514060
>You may or may not get bob tho
can I unlock him through other means or is he like behemoth?
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>>148513540
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vg-Evolve
>putting the dead group in the OP
>ran by someone who doesn't play the game
>who reviewed it and said it's shit
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>>148513540
Reminder that if you don't want to waste keys on Maggie, level her up during the next hunter rotation to get the Poisonous Rounds perk on level 17.
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>>148514120
Bob is TRS' pet name for Behemoth.
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>>148514021
No I didn't, I would've included it if I saw that, I was in that thread but I skimmed over all the info.

Only threads I've made include the kawaii wraith pic.

Anyway:

PASTEBIN:

http://pastebin.com/SDmQCje6
http://pastebin.com/SDmQCje6
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>>148514006
I never play monsters and have no perks at all, is she worth picking up?
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>>148514185
O-oh

Well here's hoping, gonna take the plunge,
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>pub picks EMET
>we lose

I am getting very fucking tired of this anchor medic.
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>>148514179
see >>148513792, same sentiment.
Though I did join that group because someone told me to but I never actually talked to anyone in it.

All the people I've played with are in the new group.
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>>148513540
Whichever chucklefuck forced the new thread, they forgot to remove the old dead group that nobody is active on.

The discord, on the other hand, got a makeover because the faggot who made it realised no one was going to use the discord he was trying to hard to shill.

Pic related, its now a general shitposting discord that has no relation to /evog/.

Don't make the fucking thread next time if you aren't going to do it right.
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>>148514297
He's alright if you make it to the relay fight. Unless you're fighting gorgon. Man fighting EMET as gorgon is hilarious.
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>>148513715
The very top post ask them to stop balancing around Mariana's trench and start looking at actual high level of play

TRS answer is to nerf Gorgo and Wraith even more and leave Hank untouched, are they for fucking real
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>>148514181

Honestly, what characters does Poisonous Rounds actually benefit besides Bucket?
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>>148514221
It's the most hated monster by hunters, so yes, it's worth.
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what does the monster pack add in stage 2?
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>>148514221
She is getting nerfed on tuesday tho
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>>148514337
forgot pic
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>>148514386
Hank is balanced, much worse than Sunny or even Tech Sgt. Hank.

Not trolling.
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>>148514367
It is shit because if people can get to a safe spot and heal they are not really in fucking need of healing. Medic needs to be able to apply health to those in the fucking thick of it.
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>>148514418
Sunny, Kala, Rogue Val, Cabot, Lennox.
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>>148514462
I'll remove it if I ever make another thread, now talk about the game, or don't, whatever, I'ma play now.
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>>148514454
i thought they already nerfed her?
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>>148514467
I understand why you'd put him below Sunny, but TechSgtHank ? No fucking way is he better than Hank
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>>148514583
More nerfs because shitters can't kill her apparently
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>>148514181
Forgot to mention, Slim (which will be in the rotation I guess) also unlocks the another Poisonous Rounds on lvl 22.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721252371
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>>148514194
Yep that's the one. I like you. You understand the value of cute wraith pics.
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>>148514437
tfw no one responds
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>>148513640
You can on G2A


also

>>148513371
You're wrong lad
I had the founder's thing already

search "Evolve Monster Pack" on G2a
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>>148514641
The only nerf wraith needs is her traversal breaking harpoons/repulser. It's near impossible to keep it still and everything she does teleports.
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>>148514006
literally the only reason I pay any attention to these threads is wraith porn
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>>148514437
You get Behemoth and Savage skin for Goli
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>>148514836
>>You're wrong lad
I might've misread because Behemoth did cost 15 bucks if you didn't preorder the game. I'm talking about on Steam.
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>>148514836
>>148514939
cool, this answers my monster pack question

thanks guys
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>its a higgus spergs out in steamchat episode
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time for fun
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>>148515031
keep your shit out of the general, how many times do people have to say this

no one gives two fucks about steam groups
if people use them to play together, fine
dont use the thread as a means to talk about them because it makes the thread cancer and derails from the game discussion and then eventually this general will be shit just like /gtag/ etc.
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Is Wraith the most perfect girl ever?
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>>148515119
That one gets you founder+monsterpack

enjoy your 30k keys and behemoth
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>>148515131
>wraith
>not kala
kys
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I feel kinda bad that I bought sgt tech hank
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>>148515209
and the most important part - the savage goliath skin
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>>148515210
>Considering Kala even close to wraith.
An extreme case of pleb, you are.
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>>148515131
Wraith just seem poorly designed, like there's nothing interesting about it.

>Goliath
Burst damage and try to separate hunters

>Gorgon
Kite, put traps, and try to create chaos to whittle down hunters

>Kraken
Shit design as well... But it's a ranged, burst...

>Behemoth
Can isolate and kill hunters.
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>>148515368
wraith has hips
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muh DICK
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>don't worry, we'll start balancing to high level play. Here's some of the changes coming out in the next patch
>waggie gets nerfed
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>>148515491
yeah they're pretty dumb but thankfully not as dumb as dbd devs
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Should the planet scanner be on cooldown at the start of a match?
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>>148515131
YES
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>>148515483
Am I seeing things or are her boobs bouncing?
>Those swaying hips
Confirmed for best.
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>>148515619
Nah, just remove the wall hack and increase its cooldown slightly.
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>>148515210
>Kala
>The Hanako of Evolve
Lmao no thanks
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>>148515483
S-she's so beautiful....
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Why do you fuck boys think cabot is horrible? Pair him up with blitz markov or Lennox and you do up to 8X damage, I don't see why you need a shield or jetpack booster when you MURDER THE MONSTER IN THREE SECONDS.
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>>148515483
I could lick dat poosie until my tongue falls off.
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>>148515210
>kala
mutate yourself and give yourself cancer like she did
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>>148515913
I would ask Kala to mutate my dick so I could fill up some sweet Wraith pussy with massive fat mutated ridged and bumpy cock and make her squeal.
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>>148515827
The problem is you dont actually murder the monter in three seconds.
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>>148515827
He's bad because he has no defensive capabilities, against a monster with high damage you'll be fucked, the medic can't sustain the team alone
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>>148516056
>>148516198
See right now monsters run away when the dome comes down, and how does the dome come down fast enough? You do damage. You shred though his armour like nothing and go straight to health damage. The monster won't risk 3 extra health bars just to put one strike on the medic when the dome is already down.
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>>148516478
A competent monster would run away as soon as the dome is down
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I'm afraid to spend my currency on perks, since some seem to be only really good on certain characters and you seem to unlock them by leveling stuff

protips?
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>>148516976
Just buy the golden ones and ones that you really really like
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>>148516478
>implying he won't be putting a strike in your medic before the dome comes down
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>>148516478
Well good luck with that, trying to keep your medic alive with Cabot...
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>>148516976
check this list and plan what perks you should buy and which you can/should grind for

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721252371
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>>148517101
This list is so incomplete that it's kinda annoying.

How are we not able to look into the game's files for this stuff?
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>>148517101
They're not saying which perks to get right? They're only showing them :/
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a patch?
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>>148517409
the good perks are pretty obvious and less obvious ones depend on characters used
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>>148513715
>Nerf to Gorgon AoE spit
>Buff to EMET AoE healing

Welp, looks like EMET hard counters Gorgon even harder now.
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>>148516976
Jetpack recharge and Rocket ____ can be used on pretty much everyone.

Capacity is useful on Hank, Sgt. Hank, Blitz Markov and Sunny though.
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Why no one wants to play monster? Why do you have to quit if you get monster you faggot? Just stop being a pussy and learn the monster so you don't have to be a little bitch and quit just because you're not playing the shit you want.
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>>148517562

Well then why don't you pick monster faggot
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>>148517562
if you got to higher levels without playing monster much you will get fucking raped just because people at higher level already know how to play... most of the time
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>>148517562
Simple question: Why don't YOU play the monster?
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>>148517562
Because Hunters are massively favored once you're getting matched with people who are high enough levelled that they usually have half a clue what they're doing.
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>its "monster fails miserably at a dropship ambush" episode
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>>148517562
because monster's the little bitch in this game

I remember before if you let a monster reach stage 3 it was pretty much game over but now stage 3 isn't even that much better than stage 2
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Is there a place i can buy founders that's not g2a?
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>>148517562
I only play Monster
Wraith is fun
Playing Bob now and he's even more fun
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>Nerf to Maggie's and blitz because win rate and damage way too high. No hard cc should be doing the deeps they are pulling
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>>148517669
Every time.
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>>148517682
check legit online retailers
some still have old copies of the game
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>>148517742
I agree that Blitz is pretty ridic but Maggie?
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so what was in that 120mbish patch?
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>>148517853
I take it the meaning is that she should be doing damage while *also* having highly effective CC like Harpoon guns. Abe also does damage, but his CC is more limited, meanwhile Griffin has great CC, but can't do damage while using it.

Trapper is not meant to be Assault with CC basically.
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>>148517682
Is cdkeys a good site?
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Thanks to the continued support of the community, we've been able to pinpoint and fix three commonly reported issues to our matchmaking in Hotfix 2.01.1. The build is now live so be sure to update to the latest version of Evolve Stage 2!

Hotfix Notes

Fix for the lobby full message occurring and the player getting backed when trying to play with friends and solo matchmaking.
Fix for the 5 players getting stuck in the pre-round and the player found full lobby but not proceeding forward into character select.
Fix for getting stuck at a Black Screen in the post round that required the player to alt-F4 and close the application.
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>>148517935
Yeah but her damage is pretty mediocre still, I'm doing like 4-5k on a full fledged game.
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>>148518008
>Fix for the 5 players getting stuck in the pre-round and the player found full lobby but not proceeding forward into character select.
>Fix for getting stuck at a Black Screen in the post round that required the player to alt-F4 and close the application.

thank fuck
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>>148517993
what is it with tards keeping shady garbage sites like g2a, kinguin and cdkeys alive?

fucking poor ass retards
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>>148518008
So is automatically exiting the lobby not a bug?

If so that's really fucking stupid.
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>>148518071
where else would you get a evolve key at this stage?
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>>148518016
That's lower than it should be but still not terrible. A game with Abe will get me about 8k damage and his CC is unarguably worse than Maggies.
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>>148518071
There is literally no other way to get an Evolve key besides going to a key site.

Imagine how much money TRS would be raking in if they charged $20 for a founder's pack.
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What the fuck is up with the Post-match screen? Once in a blue moon after a match, a map will pop up showing the paths the Hunters took to catch the Monster and some other random shit. Anyone else get this too?
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>>148518071
If dev's wernt such shills i would buy it legitimately.

Dlc is 50 dollars OR you could buy it for 15, pretty easy choice desu
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>>148517630
I don't pick him always but when I get him I don't quit like most people do
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>>148518204
That was a feature of the initial release than was deactivated for the stage 2 beta, pending bug fixes caused by the map modifications. It still pops up occasionally, which is one of the bugs.
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>>148518204
Yes
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>>148518173
I got it from a legit online retailer. It was also a pre-order copy that had the monster expansion pack code with it.
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good job turtle shit studios

youve managed to ruin the game and turn it into a monster grief simulator again, buffing whiny hunters that want free wins

i gleefully look forward to seeing your game die within a couple months again
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>>148518317
I figured they would have taken those down by now
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>>148518325
but the next actual patch is already nerfing many hunters
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>>148518372
Source? I heard they are actually buffing some like Emet
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>>148518372
ill believe it when i see it

last time turtleshit pandered to the forums and nerfed all of the monsters into the ground

they will do the same thing again. there are more human players with their dumb friends than monster players
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>>148518446
They're buffing EMET and nerfing Gorgon, but also nerfing Lennox. Look at the top of the thread dumbass.
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>>148518446
it's in this thread, m8

most of the changes mentioned in that trs thread will happen
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>>148518071
>shady garbage sites like g2a
I used paypal and had no issues I don't understand
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Gosh, this game seems almost impossible to balance
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>>148518705
It probably is impossible to balance, due to the way they have set it up now.
They should add more mobility to hunters, and make either support or trapper into a tank class. Have the tank class try to body block attacks and soak up as much damage as possible, while assault deals damage.

The way it's set up now
>Dome forces monster to lose half hp
>Heal has auto aim
>support has auto aim shield
>As long as the trapper and assault does their job, even half good
>And the support and heal does their job
>Monster is always going to win, even if it's stage 3

I really fail to see the meta game.
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>>148518705
and it doesn't help that it's asymmetrical

any braindead retard knows that EMET should be reworked completely just like Parnell's supersoldier skill and that Torvald needs more shotgun damage output and mortar needs to be better
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>>148518918
You mean lose right?
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>>148518982
yes, I mean lose...
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I just hope they "fix" behemoth soon so I can fight more of them. Brings more variety.
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>already doing good with EMET
>he's getting a buff soon

YES
E
S
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>>148518978
>Gave Torvald 6 more damage(assuming every pellet hits)
>WE FIXED HIM
Yeah this game's probably hard to balance but god damn they aren't even trying sometimes.
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>>148518918
>>Monster is always going to win, even if it's stage 3

What
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Ok.

They should add game objectives.
Like
>A hunter can be downed 2x, after it, they die
>A hunter has 2 lives

>Hunters can put up 3 pillars
>Pillars generate points for the hunters (1x/2x/4x point gen speed)
>Monster can destroy pillars
>If all 3 pillars are down for x seconds, monster wins
>If hunters reach x points, hunters win
>If monster dies, monster wins
>If all hunters die, monster win (if respawn still works or not would be balance issue)

>Give Trapper back dome, exclusivly
>Give Trapper stealth abilities
>Remove the instant tracking hunters get
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>>148519126
>good
>no tranq

see you at level 40 where only val is good
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Matchmaking is still completely broken.
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>>148519192
It's a ~12% damage increase for his shotgun. A full burst will deal like 48 more damage or whatever before weak point multipliers. Does nothing for his mediocre mortars but it is a pretty decent damage boost
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>>148519192
>mortar can hit by pure luck or the shittiest monsters that literally idle in one spot
>shotgun is emptied by shooting once doing absolutely no damage to a monster and even tougher wildlife can be a problem and reload is slow as fuck
>have to spam shrapnel nades to be able to add some weakspots to a monster
>even then the shotgun sucks dick

I played Torvald exactly once and I am not touching him again until he is properly buffed.
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>>148519340
Extraction was in the game before 2.0 and featured actual objectives other than hunt.

>if monster dies, monster wins
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how long does the tranquilizer effect last?
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>>148519478
Conversely theyre nerfing lennox by 12%

Cant wait to only play markov ever who they buffed for some reason
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>>148519659
after the patch there's almost no reason to play anything but base markov and hyde as the assault
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>wake up
>eat breakfast
>go to bathroom
>start pc
>start Evolve
>character rotation is still the same
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>>148519640
Wiki says 6 seconds.
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>>148519731
I can't see how would Hyde be better than Markov, the only thing would be the toxic grenade but other than that, Hyde's flamethrower range sucks too much for me
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>>148519750
probably going to change when you get the daily login reward
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>>148519849
already got it
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>>148519750
Are they ever changing this rotation during beta?
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>>148519798
If range were ever an issue then lennox wouldnt be a good assault.

Basically unless youre fighting OG kraken youre cool.

Hydes benefit is that he gets to take his alternate damage to the monster whereas markovs mines arent guaranteed to proc since they can be destroyed when your team takes cover behind them.
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>"Heavies are now aimed with the player’s camera instead of homing in on targets"

Wait hold on, what ?

>"Incap attacks have been removed"

RIP animation, couldn't they speed it up ? Or keep it for pouncing on hunters ?

>"Acid spit will no longer split its damage between direct damage and the pool dot. It will be one dot that is refreshed if a hunter is in range of the breath or standing on a pool."

RIP instant incap pool of liquid fun

>"Fixed an issue where Bucket’s Mechanized Recharge was not having it’s cooldown reduced by reload speed."

Still not going to make people switch off Poisonous Round turrets

Sounds like they are poking around for now, at least Wraith is going to get the big, bad hammer so we can start doing productive balancing

Still wondering if they balanced the Kraken in any way
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>>148520005
Wtf is an incap attack?
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>>148520076
If you incap a hunter with a melee attack an animation will play, goliath for example will pick someone up roar at them and then toss them to the ground
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TRS really doesn't know how to balance their game

even since the game came out hank has been the best support, val the best healer, abe the best trapper, and markov/parnell the best assaults.

almost nothing has changed except monsters are still weak as piss
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Good times, /evog/
Started playing and actually enjoying the game
I have a question
What should I do with my earliest coins?
Try to buy perks or save for some specific characters?
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>>148520005
>>148519478
source?
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did the servers just eat shit

I had a timer going into the negatives
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>>148520319
Just buy characters and have fun, I wasted like 20k keys on perks and I regret it not having used on characters, you'll just unlock the perks anyway
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>>148520319
Save them for skins / specific characters.
You unlock perks through character progression.
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>>148520319
just save up until you learn more about the game to make a more educated purchase
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>>148519478
Sorry I meant >>148519659
in my message >>148520342
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>>148520319
Characters earn you perks so buy characters.

Lennox gives gold rocket and gold damage in addition to being relatively cheap so you should buy her if you like hunter
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>>148520307
you clearly know nothing about the game with those claims

please don't post again
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>>148520410
Its already in the thread
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>>148520319
Buy characters but don't buy Kraken or Hyde you get them for free by logging in, I think Bucket's the same but I'm not sure.
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>oh boy my first behemoth fight!
>AI trapper
>never throws balls
>switch myself from Caira to Abe to throw balls+tracker dart
>AI Caira fucks off and doesn't enter the dome.

Fuck this AI
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>>148520474
>>148520391
>>148520384
>>148520381
thanks a lot

another question
which monster is considered most /evog/?
I won today with goliath, unlocked via tutorial, taking 2 points in charge and 1 in rock throw

what is general playstyle of each monsters?

goliath seems like overall balance of melee and range with escape ability
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>>148520521
sounds like someone just installed the game
>>
LET ME JOIN MATCHMAKING AS EITHER HUNTER OR MONSTER

BECAUSE IF I WANT TO PLAY HUNTER AND I GET MONSTER, I WILL LEAVE THE LOBBY ANYWAY
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>>148520657
congrats for joining the evolve community today, newbie boobie
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>>148520307
Sunny is best support, Crow is best trapper, Blitz Markov is best assault. Parnell is bad.
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>>148520701
>being part of the cancer that leaves when they get a class they don't like

you're a bad person
>>
>dodging some idiot players the fucking matchmaking forces me to play with again and again like there is no proper playerbase
>finally looks like I'll have a match where a shitter who sucks as one class is playing another class
>but then the fucking medic player picks EMET

GODDAMNIT
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>>148520786
I don't mind playing Assault when I wanted Medic, but Monster is a whole new ball game that I don't enjoy in the least.
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>>148520746
Griffin > crow my dude
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>>148519754
Thanks
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>>148520820
did you lose?
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>>148520746
NIGGERnell is shit as fuck. he does no damage compared to old child neglect whore. at least he isnt fucking torvald.

i agree on sunny and crow... COME HERE, GOBI
>>
sooo,
considering faggots like this
>>148520701
is maining monsters actually a good idea?
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>>148520921
I dodged the match so of course I didn't lose. If I had stayed I would have. Fucking EMET shitters. Nothing more unereliable.
>>
10k keys.

what to buy?
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>>148520820
>>dodging some idiot players the fucking matchmaking forces me to play with again and again like there is no proper playerbase
Just wait til the character selection happen and then exit. It just werks.
Also it happens because this game tries to match you with people around your area. I'm in europe and I almost always get people from my country, except in strange hours (or ranked).
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why are they nerfing wasteland maggie again? holy shit
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>>148520705
nice try :^) i bought it after launch

>>148520746
i agree blitz markov is easily the best and parnell is bad now

abe=permaslow on the monster, pretty ridiculous when paired with a val

i think sunny is as good as hank now, but I prefer hank for the dedicated shield and the orbitals. if you have a good val and abe i think he pairs well with them, though sunny is pretty funny to use to boost someone to keep the monster permaslowed
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>>148521016
I can tell you what NOT to buy:
>Kala
>Torvald
>Lazarus
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Val is beautiful and I want to learn more about her adventures as an intelligence operative!
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>>148520005
Incapacitating
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>>148521070
>hank on team
>everyone domes the monster in a cave every fucking time
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>>148521070
what is the best way to get guaranteed orbital damage? I mean what assist characters

I've had it only once but purely because I targeted myself just before monster player for some reason decided to dedicate himself to killing me and had it right in the back
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>>148521281
Any trapper
Any of them, literally.
Griffin forces them to either break the tether or slowly stomp out
Crow can zap them till they're slow as fuck
Abe's stasis grenades can help if you aim it ahead of them
Maggie types force them to swing at multiple harpoon traps if set correctly
Literally any good trapper can keep a monster in a orbital attack.
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>>148521281
Drop orbital on the medic if they get downed.
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>>148520837
When I get forced into monster, I just go wraith.
If these fuckers can't decide who the target is gonna be, I'm gonna make sure they have a rough time with the one they get.
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>>148521128
>EMET not in that list
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>>148521128
kala is fine

parnell
torvald
emet
slim(e)

are not
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>>148521128
laz is cool shut up

>>148521618
emet is cool shut up

val is fucking absurd honestly she needs a nerf
>>
Why is Kala so shit?
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>>148521695
You know nothing about this game, GTFO out

>emet is cool shut up

JUST
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>its a "rogueval/sunny/griffin" episode
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anyone recommend some perks for val?
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>>148521807
>it's a emet/kala/torvald episode
>in your team
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>>148521937
reload speed

more reload speed
>>
>Protocol Error
>Everyone got disconnected
Nice
Game
>>
Just did my first two matches after buying a monster.


>going to lose as gorgon
>win just barely
>going to lose as gorgon again
>win just barely

Man that stage 2 acid/spidertrap damage is just awesome. I've also decided that hank has to die first in stage 1.
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>>148522039
does reload skill replenish skills faster, any other skill other than the 4th skill.. or what?
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>>148518918
>Monster is always going to win, even if it's stage 3
this was true in the beta but not now
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>>148521959
>Still win because I'm Crow packing poisonous + acidic rounds
:^)
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>>148522106
He meant to type always going to lose

You don't say someone's always going to win even when they're stronger.
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>>148522103
No, It's just for her sniper. Reload speed affects the speed at which she chambers a new round, which means more weak spots, which means more x2 multipliers for your allies, etc.

Reload speed Val is hella op.

You like to be at a distance so escapey stuff like jetpack and movement speed is ok but most of my perks are reload speed.
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>>148522103
Whatever in ob 4 is you class skill, that's a separate perk. Reload speed affects everything else though, including how fast Hank's shield recharger recharges.
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Man griffin feels so fucking dirty
I put all 3 max ranked speed perks and every time the dome went down I kept the behemoth on lockdown
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>>148522265
>the one monster that literally does not care for griffins existence
>on lockdown
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>>148522118
Are DOT rounds better than damage % buff?
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>>148522389
sorry I meant to type goliath
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is this guy a dev or something?
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>>148522476
Oh hey, i remember that guy Had a close as fuck game of evacuation against him back in the day.
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>>148522039
Cool thanks, I forgot that it affects the healing gun
>>
team got wiped on the first dome against kraken

I have no idea what was going on
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>>148522704
People don't know how to dodge lightning strikes probably.
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>>148513715
>Incap attacks have been removed
What does that mean?
>>
>>148522704
Your team was retarded.
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>>148522265
that's kind of silly considering that the behemoth is the easiest to catch when they are on the run, with or without speed perks

also abe and crow and val slow him to a halt
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>>148522476
https://steamcommunity.com/id/TheGentlemanSquirrel
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>>148523084
>>148522476

>https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/can-we-talk-about-the-balance-in-high-level-play/91716/28

He's the lead game designer.
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>>148521807
>rogue val
>>
>Incap attacks have been removed
what? what does that mean
>>
>>148523347
There were unique melee animations for finishing a hunter off. They were shit and took too long to complete so they were removed.
>>
>want to be trapper
>get monster
>ok I guess I'll play anyway
>see rogue val, sunny, griffin
>alt+f4
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>>148521753
i have over 40 hours umad? :^)
brb picking emet in ranked
>>
Abe is balanced
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>>148523415
Rogue val is no threat and only good at healing herself.
Go for griffin first, then sunny and assault or val last.
It there's a normal val on that team though, you're fucked.
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>Play assault
>get focused first
>Play trapper
>get focused first
>play medic
>never get focused
are monsters retarded
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>tfw just started playing this game
>tfw really like it and can't stop playing
>tfw time warner jewish mafia internet just randomly had an outage
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>>148523292
>>148522476
>Lead game designer is a cuck that loves playing the most OP monster to win at his own game

Truly there are people worse than Lazarus players.
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>>148523864
>kraken
>most op monster

Choose one
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>>148523692
Depending on the Medic, focusing them first can be a huge mistake. Focusing EMET for example is full retard.

>>148523864
>Baww why does the lead designer actively play the game?
>He shouldn't get a hands on perspective he should just nerf things like I said on the forums
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>>148523864
>monsters
>op
I miss being level 12
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>>148523864
>>Lead game designer is a cuck
>cuck
That word doesn't mean what you think it does
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whoever recommended swapspeed+reload on maggie is a godsend

wraith couldnt fucking move and laz managed to revive assault every time the wraith focused it so wraith got his ass kicked
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>>148523620
>Rogue val is no threat and only good at healing herself.
that's why they're nerfing her and not normal val, right?
>focus griffin
enjoy getting 10000 armor from sunny + jetpack + heals
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>>148524043
Hard to use that arguement when theyre nerfing fucking waggie, m8
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>>148523915
EMET actually has very little self-healing. If an experience EMET knows how to roach he's a PITA, but most of them suck.

t.lv35 EMET
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>>148523918
It's so weird when the matchmaking gets you a lobby with low level players and the monster is low level, too. It's so unpredictable and odd - though usually dull in the end because with a shit monster the match should always end quickly by the second doming or so but sometimes doesn't. The hunters usually do whatever and can't even cut off the monster but at the same time the monster is so fucking terrible and inefficient at everything.
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>>148524043
Sunny's shield drone dies with one attack and even if you don't kill it, it's shields cannot sustain a continued attack and if you have problems with outdpsing rogue vals healing you're doing something wrong.
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>>148524136
>EMET actually has very little self-healing

How do you actually fuck up this bad?
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>>148524193
maybe a skill attack but I tried killing a sunny drone with EK standard melee attacks while fucking around with bots and it took 4 fucking slaps - FOUR FUCKING SLAPS - to destroy a single drone, three hits and it still had a sliver of hp left

that is some gay ass bullshit
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>>148524330
what monster?
>>
how many maps does this game have? ive only seen like 4...
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>>148524205
Any good monster is going to fuck up EMET easily unless they can roach or there's a Sunny/Hank.

In fact, EMET has trouble keeping anyone focused alive on his own. That's why he's being buffed.
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>>148524414
EK doe, like I mentioned in my post
aka grandpa cthulhu
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>>148524469
What you said goes for pretty much any Medic.
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>>148524330
sunny is cancer dude
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>>148524330
yeah, the fucking drone should go down in one hit so it forces sunny to place it in an intelligent location and not just wherever the fuck she wants. This entire fucking character is just pure bullshit. In fact it reveals a much bigger problem with supports in general. I rarely feel threatened by supports like Cabot or Bucket because they don't have bullshit shields.

I am telling you, if they have a Rogue Val, Techno Hank or Sunny, Griffin and their Assault of choice you are going to lose your fucking mind as Monster.

Sit on Val? Lol nope, self-heals out the fucking ass. Sit on Sunny? lol, first destroy her bullshit drone if you actually want to kill her in a reasonable amount of time which she can spam anyway but also get harpooned by griffin in the ass every 5 seconds. Hunters that complain about Wraith or Kraken don't even have a fucking idea what cancer looks from the other side.
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>parnell is bad
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>>148523084
>obsidian grub buff on wraith

Hoboy
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>>148524554
Nope. Other medics heal bursts do far more healing.
>>
is it worth levelling caira for the reload speed perk or should I just buy it?
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>>148524864
Other medics heal burst is on a much longer cooldown.
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>>148524810
he is, whats your point?
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>>148524945
that you guys are all just shit
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Childhood is when you think the monster is overpowered

Adulthood is when you realize it's actually the Hunters.
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>>148524136
>EMET actually has very little self-healing
yo nigga serious or do you just love to hear yourself talk?
>>
>>148524980
WELCOME TO ADULT HOOD
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>>148525115
>time played as EMET: 12 hours
>arguing that they don't know what they're doing.

Let me see your Emet stats.
>>
>>148524980
damn senpai that's a tasty looking 'ger
>>
>>148524980
Who the fuck puts salad at the bottom of the burger?!
>>
why so few people know how to play Laz? I mean jesus christ it's not against anything for you to go invisible when you are being targeted by the monster, not only that but they run away from the support while at it

but literally nobody does it and they just drop like a fly
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I just played wraith for the first time

holy fuck this is so fun teleporting everywhere, decoying, abducting, spinning
>>
>monster wins
>gg noobs hahahahaha loloolol
>x has disconnected
>y has disconnected
>z has disconnected
>alt + f4
Feels good
>>
while Laz is decent in the hands of a player that knows what the fuck they are doing I am dropping from the lobby if anyone picks

>EMET
>Slim
>Torvald
>sometimes Parnell because his damage output is shitty
>and now Laz simply because apparently it's impossible to find anyone who knows how to play him
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>>148525206
>saved an EMET pic from /evog/
>pretend to be an EMET player
>>
trs really has no clue how to balance
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Please for the sake of all that is good stop fucking doming the monster in the lakes of acid.
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>>148525687
okay then
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>>148525758
maybe you should stop standing in the fucking acid, scrub
>>
>>148525824
How long does it take to get a character to 40?
>>
>>148525889
From looking around at peoples pics of their 40 stats, around 100-120 matches.
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>>148525824
>get carried 58 times

wew
>>
>>148525758
Doesn't even hurt you, just stops the auto regen and probably jpb
>>
>>148525654
Is that a skin or something?
>>
>>148525271

Professionals. Keeps the bottom bun from soaking through with the juices.
>>
>>148525758
More like please stop doming the monster when he wants to fight
>>
>>148525758
>tfw tyrants aren't in the game
>can't bait hunters into doming me next to 1-2 tyrants and hoping it grabs one of them

also weren't there maps where you could actually go underwater or am I misremembering?
>>
>>148525871
I am not the one standing in it but most of team does while being downed in it as well. They could have waited a bit just to get near the cliffs instead they dome it inside the pool of acid with no where to safe to stand.
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>>148526159
This, but the tomato should be above the meat so that its respective juices don't soak into the bun
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>>148526164
>monster hit lvl 3
>everyone regroups at relay
>the second the monster is there, somebody domes it
>after it took a bit dmg and the dome drops it escapes to regen armor
every time
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>>148526271
it has cheese up there if you look
>>
help

I can't stop having fun with wraith
>>
>>148526292
yeah, doming at relay tells me that there is at least one retard in the enemy team which is great. Now I just have to figure out which one it is so I can abuse it.
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>>148526313
Aye, 2 pieces of cheese

And the tomato is on the lettuce which will direct the juices away from the bun

A beautiful burger
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the fuck is this shit
>>
Do pros use Griffin?

He seems really good.
>>
Bad trappers need killed desu
How can you even be bad as a trapper it's the easiest role to play imo.
Especially as abe, especially as crow. They're so good. What's their excuse?
>>
>>148526443
best trapper with a coordinated team since he can just harpoon you out of doing absolutely anything. Griffins are fucking assholes if they know what they are doing.
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>>148526443
he is the best trapper so yes pros use him
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>>148524980
>oh no the Burger is stage2 now!
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>>148526526
STOP MAKING ME FUCKING HUNGRY YOU KEK
>>
>>148526329
Have you faced a decent tryhard team yet?
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>>148526526
Fuck I need a burger tomorrow
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>>148526497
>try to chase Val as Goliath
>climb a big ass wall
>suddenly fall off
Who else but Griffin
>>
>>148526526
W-What happens when it reaches level3?
>>
so assault tier list

bmarkov
lennox
>power gap
hyde markov
>big power gap
parnell

>torvald
absolutely useless

how accurate is this ?
>>
>>148526661
It destroys the power relay obv
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>>148526661
slow death by cholesterol
>>
>>148526526
Right. Let's put a foot in this thing's arse.
>>
Is it just me or Caira is much better than Val?
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>>148527132
Better than Val, not Rogue Val.
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>>148527307
>implying Rogue Val is better than Val
>>
>>148526721
Markov is a better Kraky killer than Lennox.
>>
Do monsters not see the 'Easy Mode' tag every time they queue for the role that requires no aim or coordination or teamwork?
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>>148527431
>monster
>easy mode

lol
>>
Best perks for sunny?
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post yfw you are kraken and see this
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>>148526728
oh my fucking GOD
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>>148527601
>>
>>148527431
how does it feel being rank 6?

Play monster at higher levels, queue into a premade team and you get your fucking ass torn open.
>>
>>148527431
Monster gets absolutely obliterated once you're not getting matched with people who are <rank 10.
>>
>>148526413
Are you dumb?
You can switch class with someone if they also back out to this screen.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

I never thought people were this retarded
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>>148527601
Holy fucking shit

If you lose you should uninstall btw.
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>>148527782
best bait so far in this thread
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>mfw AI Goliath starts murdering everyone with super aggression and pinpoint accurate rock throws
>>
>>148527782
He's right though, monster is the WORST thing you can play in Evolve, you wrecking the bottom of the barrel a few times doesn't change this.
>>
>>148527672
>>148527704
Post pics of hunters with 40-game win streaks

Oh wait, you can't X)
>>
>>148527842

All AIs players are aimbots

They're impossibly good at aiming their abilities and focusing players down. This is however amply made up by how awful their evasion game is. AI Monsters rarely make it to Stage 2 if played with a MP team
>>
>>148527983
You realize people get those win streaks by plug pulling every time a game starts to go south, right?
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>>148527793
it was hilarious. Laz had a 6 game win-streak going and it was obvious from the way he moved that he thought he was the leader of the group. I waited behind a rock formation and nuked him when he was like 100 meters away from his team. INSTANTLY ragequits the game. Like there wasn't even a moment of hesitation.
>>
>>148528035
doesn't work, if you disconnect during the game it counts as a loss.

And no, you don't need to plug-pull, it's piss easy to get high win-streaks as a monster if you play against low-level hunter teams.

No, the reason why you don't see hunters with massive win-streaks is because a good hunter team is usually premade. It's highly unlikely that every good hunter has their premade team around at all times which means they occasionally play with scrubs and their win-streak gets ruined. I actually ran into a premade hunter team a day or two after it went f2p that had a 28 win-streak going.
>>
>>148527842
>tfw lost to a team with an AI abe and AI tech hank
>>
How the fuck they still haven't fixed the role selector?
>no preferred role
>steals someone's else preferred role
This role selector system would suck even if it worked as intended, but right now it's truly infuriating
>>
>>148528253
AI hank is stronger than any real player could ever hope to be. Fucking piece of aimbotting overpowered shit
>>
>>148528253
the most important roles are medic and assault
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>>148526728
Stage 4 when?
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>>148528047
What's the worst thing you can encounter as kraken?
Griffin/Hank/Sunny/Caira/either markov/either val? Is cabot actually noticeable as monster?
>>
It's tomorrow where's the new rotation god damnit
>>
>>148528253

AI Medic and AI Support are horribly powerful because they aimbot

AI Hank and AI Val is pretty much a gg if the team has a competent HUMAN Trapper to lead the bots and a human Assault to create proper killzones and tank hits
>>
>>148528384
This made me kek
>>
>>148528428
So much cheese...
>>
>>148528429
Griffin/Blitz Markov/Hank/Medic of choice is really fucking strong against Kraken.
>>
>>148528429
Rogue Val, Sunny, Lennox, Griffin

I've played against a bunch of German premades that acted like total fucking assholes in the pre-game lobby and played comps based around that basic idea sometimes switching up Sunny against Techno Hank, at the level I'm playing at currently I constantly get rematched against the same premades. There are not a lot of monster players playing where I am right now so if you have a massive win-streak going and your MMR is high you pretty much play against the exact same 4 assholes 5 times in a row.
>>
>>148528532
Don't you just want to be locked in a room with it all alone and maul at it like a wild animal without using your hands?
>>
>>148528631
As all monster players deserve
>>
>>148528480
>AI Val

I can imagine the struggle...
>>
they really made monster unfun to play in stage 2, huh
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>>148528812
well what would you do without touching the hunters
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>>148528480
>shitters think bots are good

clearly you never stick around when there's nothing left but you and one other human player and everything else is bots

I fucking loathe bots
not because they are "good" but because they are shit
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Should I spend shekels on gold perks?
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>>148528779
fuck you buddy. The power dynamic at high level play shifts completely. Just because low level f2p shitters get wrecked by monster players doesn't mean that that balance is remotely true when you get to 25+
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>>148528631
Lennox is still good against Kraken?
Do banshee mines proc on sunny's drone?
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>>148528941
Lennox is good against Kraken when your Trapper is Griffin or Maggie. Harpoons force Krakens to land, and they're so squishy than Lennox can chunk them.
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>>148528878
You should, at the very least, have at least one gold perk. Otherwise you're weighing down your team.
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>>148529295
What gold perk is good for all the characters?
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>>148529494
Read the thread. >>148517557
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>doggo heals you by licking your face
damn I miss my dog ;_;
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>>148529540
>Characters get each other up by waving at you
L4D had way better animations, what happened?
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>>148529595
You can say anything you want but the weapon switch animations are so smooth and satisfactory that all I wanna do is get Markov and switch between the lightning gun and the mine all day
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>>148529595
Valve bux > 2K bux
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>>148529693
>switch from mininuke to shield drone
>she just lowers her arm and the drone crawls down
cute as fuck desu
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>>148529850
It's really cool how well made animations change the whole feeling of a game, like hank switching to his main laser gun gives you a feeling that it's really heavy
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No seriously why do people play Kala when she's the most useless thing since Jack and or Torvald/Hyde/Slim like do these retards just like doing absolutely nothing or what?
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>>148530526
>Wow a half monster grill, she must be awesome! Let's spend 5500 grindbux on her!
>She is awful
>But well, I've already spent my money so I better keep playing her to justify my purchase
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>>148530526
She's good for getting health damage early, but beyond that not much since you still have shields to deal with. Her mines are GOD tier for disrupting monster armor regen though since they go around terrain.
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>>148530650
Every Kala I've met so far has proven that the best way to do early health damage is to just have a useful support who kills the armor like effectively all the supports that are not fucking Kala.

>>148530629
The sad part is that with how one was a high rank (had a few gold bars on their medal) and the other was a fresh rank this is probably it for both of them.

I hope they get gassed.
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>>148530526
>shitting on Hyde

you are out of line and it's clear proof that you are retarded

and you suck at the game badly if you can't play Hyde
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>>148530526
Because in pubs nothing matters
Im not gonna bring a fucking emet or a parnell to a ranked match but in pubs of course im gonna be less than optimal
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What skills do you guys get with the Wraith? I saw some people never picking up decoy or supernova
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>>148530773
>Hyde

It isn't really shitting on him as it is reminding people that they can just pick Markov instead if they want to have a character with a funny accent since most Hydes are shit and as far as I've seen the tip to not being a shit hyde is just throwing acid grenades and shooting your chaingun since your flamethrower is a tickle me elmo doll with no range.

Or just playing Markov instead.
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>>148513715
>wasteland maggie is getting nerfed
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>>148531227
I also think Markov is better, he puts in more consistent DPS
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>>148531227
>shooting your chaingun since your flamethrower is a tickle me elmo doll with no range
You have no idea how wrong you are
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>>148531261
here's the reasoning behind it
http://pastebin.com/qxSAUisx
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>>148531308
Flamethrower ticks 32 damage at around 50 damage per second.

Markov does around 100 DPS with his lightning gun. Lennox around 150 with her punch and around 50 with her autocannon (which is being changed to deal AoE damage soon).
Hyde is pretty underwhelming.
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>>148531308
Then explain, since as far as I've seen, Hyde is what happens when someone goes and makes Markov but worse in every possible way.
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>>148531363
The game must legitimately not record her damage correctly or the stacks don't operate how they think Ignoring memedogs Ai not flaming people up. I've never out damaged normal maggie as flame.
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There goes my win streak thanks to Abe that doesn't use stasis and Bucket wasting his cooldown ability.
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>>148531437
I've not played WMaggie a lot, but yeah the stats at the end of the game always showed less damage than when I play normal Maggie.
Maybe I'm a shitter, who knows
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>>148531423
>>148531431
Flamethrower hits 54 times over 11 seconds.
32 damage per hit.
that gives around 150 dps.
I play a lot of Hyde, and deal over 15k damage with flamethrower every game.
He's not bad.
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>>148531547
>EMET shitter talking shit

lol
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>>148531610
Compared to Markov and Blitz Markov and Lennox that's not great but it's not shit so Hyde can sit nice and comfortable in the average chair of a random anonymous person on a 4chan vg thread about a game that died went f2p and is trying desperately to survive before a cash shop is implemented.

But okay, I won't rank Hyde with Torvald anymore, I'll rank him like this instead:

Markov/Blitz Markov
Lennox
Hyde
Parnell
Torvald

Like that, are you happier now?
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Threadly reminder than Gorgon does too much damage
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>>148531590
We all could be shiters but but really how much "optimization" can you get out of a burst gun?

I would legitimately love to see a waggie putting out the numbers people are suggesting ignoring the dog thing because the dog is unreliable.
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>>148531762
Nah you just need to git gud :^)
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>>148531762
no it doesn't

retarded hunters need to stop standing in the acid
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>>148531735
Get your facts straight if you want to make tier lists.
Also Markov deals 150 dps, Blitz goes up to 300 if you stay on the monster long enough, but they both have longer recharge time on their main weapon (Markov 7.5/Blitz 6.5 sec).
So compared to Hyde with ~3 sec flamethrower reload, it's not really that impressive.
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>>148531735
lennix is better than normal markov
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I wish you could just blow up Daisy (rigged with explosives) to do one time 777 damage.
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>>148532102
See you're forgetting that they have those other things, like a useful gun, and the useful mines.

I've seen Markov/Blitz Markov do better overall damage than Hydes, sure the Flamethrower is great, but how good is the chaingun compared to their rifles, how good is the acid grenade to their mines.

>>148532131
This is based on opinion via what I've seen in game, this isn't a tier list to be taken seriously.
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>>148532178
>Harming Daisy

I bet you pick Kala too.
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>>148532178
>t. Mehmet Mustafa
Leave doggo alone!
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>>148532320
Trapjaws are shit tier animals and pets.
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>>148532403
a cute
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>>148513715
>Heavies are now aimed with the player’s camera instead of homing in on targets

Thank the lord
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>>148530526
She's fun, she's my waifu, and muh lore. Probably the most interesting character they've added yet.

Still LMAOing @ Sunny's drone being made out of fucking impervium compared to the teleporter pads that die to a sneeze.
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>>148531762

She's getting gutted next patch so grats
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>>148532865
So buyers remorse.
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>these patch notes

I don't get it

why the fuck is wasteland maggie of all things getting nothing but nerfs

why are damage reduction perks on hunters getting nerfed when literally no one actually uses them

why do they refuse to make cabot and kala actually good while nerfing the only good support that isn't hank
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>>148532192
2nd weapons are usually worse than primary, and in this case taking clip size, rpm and damage, they are comparable.

Mines can be destroyed before they are armed or monster can just avoid them/destroy from range and deal 0 damage.
Grenade goes live the moment it explodes and will tick monster 2-3 times before he can escape with 130 per tick.

I'd say Markovs and Hyde are equal with my playing preference going toward Hyde.
I hate it when i place mines and teammates don't see them/ignore them making them useless.
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>>148533134
what patch notes
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>>148533134
>monsters get buffed
>hunters get nerfed

ALL ABOARD TRS'S WILD RIDE ONCEMORE!

GAME DEATH IN T-MINUS 3 MONTHS
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>>148533268
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/can-we-talk-about-the-balance-in-high-level-play/91716/28
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>>148533134
They're balancing around the higher levels of play where Monsters are garbo.

Unfortunately they've yet to address the lower levels and other places where new players play and get dumpstered. The perk system currently and will continue to completely shaft the hunters.

Also why they don't make it an 8 hunter/2 monster rotation is beyond me. Wraith free week, whenever it comes, will be complete AIDS.
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>empty the magazine
>don't reload
>switch guns then switch back
>magazine full

Who designed this?
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Ohh boi i cant wait for these new hunter nerfs
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Gorgon

Acid spit will no longer split its damage between direct damage and the pool dot. It will be
one dot that is refreshed if a hunter is in range of the breath or standing on a pool.

`*Dps set to 140|140|154 for a max damage of 700|700|770


Is this a nerf or not?
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>>148533730
Overall nerf but more towards higher end Gorgons playing against good hunters who aren't retarded.
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>>148513715
>lennox plasma lance base damaged nerfed by 17%, max damage nerfed by 9%
for what purpose
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>>148533610
Gorgon is getting nerfed also
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>>148533796

Because she did disgusting numbers on anyone she could reach aka goliath
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>>148533796
If you can't see how she's the most OP assault ever you're dumb
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>>148533134
>tesla gun range nerf
keked
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>>148533796
Because she completely hard counters Goliath, and soft counters Gorgon.
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>>148533338
HOLY SHIT TORVALD GOT A BUFF
NOW HIS SHITGUN DEALS 6 MORE DAMAGE
WOW
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>>148533581
kek
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Any decent /vg/ hunter groups?
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>>148533134
>>148533338
lot of these changes seem rational
i dont know what is your problem
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"GentlemanSquirlLead Designer on Evolve Stage 2
6h

Nerf to Maggie's and blitz because win rate and damage way too high. No hard cc should be doing the deeps they are pulling"
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>>148534582
this game is so fucking dead
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>>148534582
Maggie actually does do loads of damage.
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who /hoardingkeys/ here?
I have 52k and I only need to unlock Gorgon, Slim, Kala, Jack.... so in the end I only need to unlock Gorgon because those other hunters are shit.
I would like to buy some skins but then I am afraid I'll waste keys and don't have enough to buy new perks/characters
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>level 20 something slim
>still doesn't drop bugs on downed hunters
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So it feels like Lennox is one of the stronger Assaults. None of them can really peel all that much and at least she rips flesh out of the back if the monster ignores her.

What are the best perks? Mostly for catching up and following the more mobile monster as they chase the medic.

Cannot tell if jetpack recharge or movement speed is more consistent.
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Is anyone else not getting the end screen?
where they tell you how many beanie baby's you've won?
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>>148533796
Because she's totally relentless against melee monsters

>Build up max combo on enemy Wraith
>Cabot revs up the Amp
>7.0x DMG
>S E V E N

Pretty sure I could six-shot the thing if it didn't spaz everywhere and randomly reset the combo
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>>148535338
My usual Lennox loadout:

T1: Rocket Lord
T2: Movespeed
T3: Dodge/Jetpack Velocity

I was surprised by how springy the upgraded velocity perks make your dodges feel. I'm thinking that if I stick with her I'd take Movespeed at T1 and, whenever I get around to unlocking it, the Lithium Battery (pure Recharge) at T2
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What makes you insta-dc, /evog/?

For me it's

>Kala
>Torvald
>Laz
>lv30+ kraken
>Tech Hank
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>>148535824
Monster with 10+ winstreak
Anyone that DCs in the lobby

I don't think any hunters are truly bad enough to warrant leaving. Kala's pretty good, but the Support archetype as a whole continues to suffer from 'That's Not Sunny!' (or Hank) syndrome even in Stage Two
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>>148535824
Nothing cause I'm not a baby.
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>>148535824
low level slim/emets
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>>148535824
i don't d/c, i win with what i'm given because i'm not a crybaby bitch
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>>148535824
Games that attempt to start with 4 people in the lobby. Fuck playing against AI monsters.
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>>148535824
Idlers, fucks should be shot.
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>balance a game with no relevant competetive scene around "competetive" play
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>>148536456
>"competetive" play when less than 1% of the matches are ranked
TRS if completely retarded if they think people give a single fuck about ranked/competitive
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>>148536456
you dont have to be competitive to realize hunters needed nerfs
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>>148537104
>implying wmaggie need a nerf
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>>148537297
She was doing far too much damage for her role
The damage output was more subtle than other characters, lot of people did not realize how big it was
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>All that shit founders get

http://www.evolveupdates.com/stage2/

I'm so tempted to buy now, damn
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I am currently mainly playing against 25+ players and CONSTANTLY advice hunters as monster to not pick Lazarus. They do it anyway and get blasted when they desperately try to save the corpse of their team-mates every fucking time. And then they blame their "shit teammates". What is the fucking appeal of that character?
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>>148537437
Please if you have proof please share it with me, Please I've been looking for some but I can't seem to find any.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03D1iFQYOmE
Why do people hate Parnell again?
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>>148537614
look here
>>148531363
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>>148537716
That's not proof that's someone theory crafting why waggie should be doing more damage than maggie.
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>make an account on turtlerocks forums
>don't know how to accentuate my point
>do absolutely nothing
I just want to tell them that no one wants to play as the monster. Literally just had a game where someone begged someone to go monster and then everyone else laughed at the guy who got it. Not even pubs want to be the monster past level 15 or so.
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>>148537817
TRS has confirmed the theory
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>>148537638
>Published on Feb 7, 2015
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>>148537862
Where?
Do they release her actual damage numbers in comparison to maggie?
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>>148537638
>video is over a year old
also,
>monster stands still
if that's the case torvald is the best assault then
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>>148537847
Yup, it's pretty weird actually, I didn't play Legacy but when this game came out I thought that Monster were going to be super popular and everyone will want to play as monster, cuz shit it's a fucking monster, why would you want to play hunters it's just normal FPS dudes
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>>148538043
>Monster stands still
For a monster that doesn't stand still, Parnell is not going to be affected much. His hitscan shotgun makes it easy to track leaping monsters, but doing that with Hyde is a pain.
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>>148538272
Teamwork is fun
Being alone is not fun
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>>148538323
that's a valid point. not only that, but if playing monster means a quite certain lose you get the perfect situation of nobody wants to be monster
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>>148538272
I'm not good at monster so whenever I play it, Griffin and sunny make me not want to play it ever again.
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>>148538272
it's an FPS Monster Hunter that requires more teamwork, why wouldn't you play hunter.

just need an equivalent to upswinging your mates and the game would be perfect
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I don't understand how Hank's shield work, would someone explain?
Sometimes it shields, sometimes it doesn't
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>>148538763
It's a temporary shield that's on only when you use it on someone. Also it has a capacity that recharges over time when not used, so let's say oyur gun is only loaded 10%, then your applied shield will be super weak
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>>148533781

It basically made Gorgon practically not worth playing if you're looking to win.

Hunters have 1600 Health Points.
You'll need to hit one of them with the ENTIRETY of acid, twice, AND more before you get an incap, and apparently they're 'removed' incapacitation attacks(can't damage those who are down?) so now you're going to have to body hump the ever living FUCK out of whoever is downed, as counter intuitive as it is.
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>>148538272
Forget the 1v4 meme

Make it xeno left 4 dead
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>>148538986
>and apparently they're 'removed' incapacitation attacks(can't damage those who are down?

No, just special animations that triggered if you incapacitated a Hunter with a regular melee attack. You can still hit them while they're down.
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>>148537847
the problem is that the ball is in the monsters side in almost every respect, sure wraith and kracken have an advantage but thats cause their abilitys and playstyles practicaly counter most hunters.
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>>148537609
You've been playing against bad hunters. I constantly encourage people not to go for a revive unless the monster is either much too busy (which is usually never the case for a kraken honestly) or running away. Most times I can get off a quick cloak and revive as Laz pretty easily against most monsters, people just need some fucking patience. Most losses are usually hunters stacking up on a downed hunter.
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>>148537862
>create an adaptation that does more DPS but has less utility and less durability
>nerf the DPS adaptation's DPS because it has more DPS than the vanilla version
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>>148531363
>madmaggie always outdps normal maggie.
>Normal maggie has better CC ability than madmaggie and greater trapping ability.
I don't see what the problem is here.
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>>148539882
they are nerfing dps of both maggies
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>>148540234
>>148540385
Oh. Well, that makes things slightly better I guess. Are they going to do anything to improve Maggie's ability to actually HUNT the monster?
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finally level 40, gonna probably level goliath or gorgonzola next
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>>148521510
Am I right in saying Crow's biggest utility is shooting through armour?
I enjoy playing him but his stasis gun isnt great because it doesnt prevent the monster charging or jumping which is very annoying so I use him mostly for tracking and for shooting through armour.
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>>148540461
Just follow daisy, anon
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>>148540461
dont pick wasteland if you have trouble tracking the monster
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>>148540549

>Kraken
>5 losses

Holy shit you're bad
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>>148540549
What were the five losses? Any tips on perks and play?
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>>148540646
>>148540660

3 losses. 2 of those were disconnect in loading screen bugs.
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>>148520197
while cool, that sounds like a huge waste of time, and even a bad thing to happen while the hunters are raining bullets on you
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>>148540549
>a monster player
Thank you anon for keeping playing monster in this dire times
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>tfw trying out Bucket's Ebolaids Turret memebuild
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The secret to goliath is point blank rock throws against a wall.
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>>148540549
What perks/abilities you using ?

I'm getting burned out on Gorgonzola and want to switch to Krak
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>>148540660
>>148540983

Stage 1: 2 Lightning Strike 2 Banshee mine (alternatively 1 in banshee and 1 in vortex if you want to play more defensively and run away more)
Stage 2: 3 Lighting 3 Banshee 1 vortex
Stage 3: 3 Lighting 3 Banshee 3 vortex

Perks: Feeding + Movement speed
Traversal cooldown reduction
Ability cooldown reduction

Traversal cooldown is criminally underrated by monster players in my opinion.
>>
>tfw want Behemoth to unlock because I'm bored of Meteor Goliath and I don't like how squishy everything else it
>>
>>148535346
had that
restarting seems to fix it
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>>148541030
I usually roll with "Regenerate all your armour in two seconds" perk and one silver feeding.
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>>148541520
I really urge you to change that habit in high level play. Good Premade teams often run a Griffin and you will not fucking get away if they know what they are doing without movement speed + traversal cooldown. I had to learn that the hard way.
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>>148541638
Any good way to deal with Griffin Sunny outside of juking or is it just cancer?
>>
Let's talk Wraith anons.

How are you running your perks/skills?

I'm going feeding speed, move speed and damage resistance

Leveling up mainly Warp Blast and ignoring Supernova
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>>148541638
I play meteor and your score inspires me to try Kraken, I think you're right about rolling traverse since it's the krak's only way of getting around.
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>tfw playing medic with a competent sunny on my team

Oh my god, the dodges.
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>>148541919
Vortex Sunny's ass into a corner of the arena and rape her with banshee mines and Lightning strikes. Remember to actually HOLD your lightning strike and wait when she starts to deplete her jetpack. So many monster players just spam their abilities into a corner and miss half of them. Just shoot banshee mines at her and she will jump and dash the whole time to get back to her team. And then you hit her with the lightning strike when you are confident her jetpack went out.
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>>148541919
Push the one you want to kill where the drone can't see him.
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>>148541980
2 Warp + 2 Abduct
3 Warp + 2 Abduct + 2 Supernova
3 Warp + 3 Abduct + 3 Supernova

I ignore Decoy, is that a good idea? That thing just gets wrecked by anyone half-decent.
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>>148542108
>>148542162
Excuse me, I meant a good way to get away from Griffin Sunny outside of juking.
>Dome goes down.
>Get harpooned.
>Break harpoon and spam traversals.
>Griffin still on my ass because of sunny's boost.
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>>148541980
I'm going feed, feed, movement speed
3 decoy 1 warp for beginning
Then again I suck
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>>148542283
In most situations any damage a decoy takes is damage youre not taking. Plus your decoy benefits from supernova as well, unless its only visual.
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>>148542310
Sunny's boosting will run out in a couple of harpoons, and the assault won't be close enough to be able to damage you if you react fast enough to it. Your best friend is elevation.
>>
Anyone have the hunter elite skins?

Used to have Hydes but found out they give out armor skins now
>>
Why did they ruin the party system? I'd die for a good monster shitwrecking team.
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>>148542404
I really like ambushing the hunters at stage two, and Abduct -> Warp -> Supernova can quickly take down a high value target when the hunters don't expect the monster to go on the offensive.

Decoy sort of need Supernova to deal any form of real damage right? And at low levels, Markov or any other damaging hunter can just sneeze at it and it's dead.
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>>148514418

Literally everyone except maybe a medic.

>>148514532

Not that good on Rogue Val considering it only procs when using her sniper, not the poison.
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>>148542846
>Decoy sort of need Supernova to deal any form of real damage right?

No

>>148542404
The Decoy attacks at the speed of Supernova even if you don't have Supernova learned, this is what TRS should look at before they gut Wraith.
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I ruined some poor soloQ Hank streamer's streak when the game decided to give me monster for some reason. Poor guy clearly knew what he was doing with shield, elevation and barrage but his team was retarded.
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>>148542283
I think decoy is better than supernova, also good for feeding cuz it chases wildlife
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>>148542960
Oh is that so? Then it's just visual?

Might ignore Supernova if that is indeed the case.
>>
how do i git gud at managing my jet pack efficiency, i mean aside from unlocking the perks that do that.
Like are there any tricks/tips that can increase my getting around without burning up all my fuel by the time i catch up to my team/dome/monster?
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>>148542846
Decoy's real strength comes from it having innate good melee dps, too much health to kill unless the assault wastes dps on it and spawning with 3 traverses.
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>>148543093
I'd say a point in it is fine because it is good for your own damage output or for getting hunters to burn their jetpack because the people that don't instantly leave the game when Wraith is picked at least know to get out of Supernova
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>>148543301
>too much health to kill
Thats why I like hyde or normal markov against wraith. Their best dps weapons are naturally aoe. Hyde is a bit better though since his grenades strong area denial and markov's mines can detonate on decoys.
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Guys, I found a way to piss off the monster easy.

>T1 Jetpack Thrust Boost
>T2 and T3 Jetpack Recharge

It's so fucking easy to dodge everything monsters throw at you, as long as you come into the fight with a full bar. The thrust boost is only 5% but it's really fucking good.
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do the same perks stack across ranks? (like rocket man/lord/king, or jump+reload+reload)
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Does reload speed make hyde's nastybomb regen faster?
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>>148543960
Reload speed affects 1, 2, 3, but not 4 which is affected by the class ability reload perk.
What was the trapper's previous 4 anyway?
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>>148544061
Dome
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>>148543252
don't waste your jetpack unless you're being targeted or playing assault and chasing the monster

as far as out of combat jetpack management, use up your fuel all at once and then let it recharge
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Blitz Markov, Grinnin, or Sunny next?
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>>148544269
Markov is fine, unless you main assault there's no rush to upgrade. Granny is unique, your call.
Sunny and Hank are both solid picks.
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>>148544269
forgot
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>>148544269
kys, my man.
Real men buy Kala
t. Monster player
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Holy shit how do you even deal with the sunny shield drone? She puts that shit far away from the team and it still keeps them shielded, if you go out to destroy it you have to burn cooldowns or hit ir like 3 times with a basic attack, simply bullshit
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>>148544525
>see sunny
>alt+f4
ez
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>>148544410
>M.E.M.E.T
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>>148544525
Don't fight in the open. The drone also can't shield the bottom of the cliff he's on.
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>>148544603
I might start to consider that strategy
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>Nerfing Flame doggo
>And mad Waggie

They told me not to buy her.
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>>148545053
Supposedly it doesn't keep track of all the damage she actually does.
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>>148545053
2k damage? Shit, I get almost 10k with Abe's shotgun
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>>148545053
>those stat
>win
Was the monster mentally challenged or something?
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>>148545135
Well you can't see the harpoon damage I'm sure they do atleast 40.
STOP YOU'L RUIN EVERYTHING

>>148545161
yeah abes pretty good

>>148545368
It was a really long fight with a gorgon believe it or not this is above average daisy is atleast. Not with the traps those hard to trap with that fuckers acid spit.
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how the fuck do people unlock extra colors for badges?
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>>148545790
You play more.
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>>148545790
can't atm, heard it from one of the devs in a stream
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>all my hunters are getting nerfs
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Is Meteor Goliath OP /evog/? I've played 20 games as MG so far and I've won all of them, I use the Ferocious Instinct perks which increase climb speed and feed speed and it's got me wondering if either MG or the perks need a reworking.
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>>148546575
>mine aren't

Hooray slim mains
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Sir, half of our playerbase is complaining about monsters being at a disa-
Oy vey! The goyim are complaining? the game is free! The ungrateful! Nerf the monsters anyway, they're the villains so they should be losing anyway!
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When will they add dlc?
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>>148547709
probably about 6-8 months from now, since it took them 8 months to release a patch and it'll take another 5 months to get all the already finished adaptations.
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>>148547373
I'd say he and Goliath are balanced, not OP
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>>148547373
nah, he just rekts teams with bad healers
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>queue for game
>people select their hunters
>support leaves and causes the medic and trapper to leave as well because they don't want to play with a bots
>me (assault) and the monster stay
>lennox, hank, jack, caira vs goliath
>game was partially close but still beat the monster with 3/4 of the hunters being bots
>monster never even downed me
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>>148547597
They're nerfing more hunters than monsters bruh
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>>148547597
ahaha more than half the player base don't play monster. not even a fifth of the player base is playing monster.
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>>148547373
Goliath and his main man Meteor are the most balanced Monsters in the game. They don't instantly wreck certain compositions and most compositions don't wreck them completely.
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>Someones picks the assault nigger
>He doesn't do damage and dies the first

Was he a retard or the character is shit?
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how do i play val?
she doesnt self heal like caira
and i die

what perks?
what tactics?
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Everytime i go to buy a founders pack it says my account has been locked?
But i just put money on steam and it was fine,
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>>148548285
>Was he a retard or the character is shit?

Yes
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>>148548285

Parnell is pretty bad I find. Probably only good against Kraken.
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>tfw you're on point and up the monsters ass as Abe
>Slowing it constantly and keeping it tagged
>ready to dome as its finally had enough of your shit and turns to fight
>you look at the map and realise your teamates are miles away
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>>148548579
you have a support team mate for a reason
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>>148548579
Communicate with your teammates to pick roles that mesh well with Val. Not every hunter works well with every hunter.
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>>148548753
One time I fought a genius Abe just like that who decided to 1v1 a Stage 2 Goliath, but he actually domed and fucking boosted straight to my face.

I wonder if he expected something other than getting pounced to death in ten seconds flat.
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>>148548186
amazing,What is TRS goinjg to do when no one plays monsters because its so unfair to do so? Just drop the game entirely and write it off as a complete failure? Keep nerfing the mosnters so casuals can enjoy killing a bad AI monster?
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>>148549186
They're going to do what they are planning to do nerf hunters. you know this is a beta right?
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Hyde is the most fun assault
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>>148549098
I didn't actually dome, I just kited it around because no one should be stupid enough to dome in alone.
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does anyone know how to deal with krakens with the damage reduction perk?

i just can't seem to penetrate their armor because they gain it faster than i can destroy it
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>>148548753
>Be monster
>Wait in a cave
>Trapper see me and boost toward me while happily dropping the dome
It's like being a parent and having your first child walk to you for the first time, you're very proud and just want to give him a big nice hug
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Did the character rotation just change? I played a couple games as Abe and now I can only pick maggie? Just started the game.
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>>148513540
Made this quick image guide for buff locations, good for alt + tab before the match.

Info posted a few hours ago on TRS forums: https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/elite-wildlife-spawn-locations/91895
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>>148550221
Maybe? The rotation is today.
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>>148550221
Yes
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I feel like they nerfed the amount of food you can get as a monster because most of the time I can hardly find anything to eat. I don't remember it being this difficult before.
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Val or Caira?
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>Slim is in the rotation
T I M E T O P L A Y M O N S T E R
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Full reload perks for Griffon?

>Yes or No
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>>148550727

Caira is cuter, therefore better.
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>>148550815
caira is fucking annoying as fuck tho
i cant stand anything that comes out of her mouth
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Should I buy abe? I feel like he's a pretty easy character to learn for a noob like me. And trappers seem like the easiest to play so far for me.
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Can you use textchat?
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>>148551330
I love Abe. Use the stasis grenades constantly to keep the Monster slowed, aim well with the tracking dart, and use your shotgun when you can you blast its face. Shits fun.
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>>148551105

Simply not true.
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>>148551330
Both Maggie and Griffin are more useful.
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>>148551330
Abe is god, permanent slow, tons of damage with shotgun, and permanent monster tracking with dart gun
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>>148551105
>he doesn't love big black donuts
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>>148551330
Abe's good, buy him if you like him.

For the love of god though, please use the Stasis Grenades. Way too much I've played and see the monster never get slowed once.
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>>148549715
Saw something I didn't even think to try last match. Hyde was chucking grenades artillery style all over the place in the direction we were chasing the monster. Most hit nothing but I never realize how fucking far he can toss those things.
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>>148551556
>>148551521
>>148551461
K thanks guys just got him. I've been playing him already since he was free and those stasis grenades are fun. Do the grenades stack or is 1 on the monster good enough?
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>>148521281
predict where the monster is going to be in 2-3 seconds and drop an orbital there.

even if your orbital misses, the zoning power allows you to let the monster's target heal up, thus putting the monster back to square 1.

If the monster targets you (which he might if you're a fucking hank, the most annoying support in the game in domes), look at the ground and drop an orbital

i get full MS buffs on hank and I skirt around the smell limit of the monster, and as soon as they evolve i orbital them.

hank is fucking delicious, but it's so goddamn easy to win with him it starts to get boring
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>>148552108
Stasis grenades stack but only up to 1.5x a regular stasis grenade. I've found its best to just rotate between dart, grenade and shotgun while fighting the monster in the dome
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>>148513540

Edited >>148550346 with numbers now.
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>>148547982
level <5 games are so weird
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>>148550346
>>148552413

noice
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>>148532273
Can we all take a moment to reflect on the fact of how worst girl Kala is?
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>>148552845
More worst than slut sister from the incest animu
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>>148538323

>teamwork is fun, alone isn't

Don't give a shit about others, know they'll only hold you back. Shit on people
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>no bronze capacity/reload perks

fucking
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I like slim's character but my god he is a horrible medic.
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>>148552845
I was hoping her character be more stoic but still might go berserk instead of some edgy cunt who keeps asking if you are scared of her.
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Does this general have any groups for hooking up as hunters?

Playing solo is a hazzle after 5 games trying to carry bucket supports.
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>>148552845
Yeah she's cringy af
"Scared of me yet?"
No one care slut, drop the fucking shield booster already
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>>148553721
Her conversations with pretty much every other character makes them more likeable however.
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>3800 with missiles
>8400 with poison turrets

Holy shit are they going to nerf this or is bucket new assault?
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Lennox really needs to be nerfed, getting shot down as a monster within 20 seconds of being found doesn't seem right.
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>>148553592
I want 50% capacity so I can be a 6 nader as Caira.
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>>148554023

Bucket's actually pretty solid right now. Only downside is his GML is dogshit. 200 dmg per clip is very low, especially in comparison to the other Supports.
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>>148554023
That's not really assault level damage but it's higher than pretty much every non-assault.

I can say that it's Parnell/Torvald damage maybe.
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>>148554154
Kala does what? 480 each cycle? and they home in themselves.
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This is the first shooter I've seen that reloading is 100% useless, ever. If you reload you're dumb and you're doing it wrong, switching guns is strictly better. What the fuck
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Is Slim really shit or are almost every player shit at him while rogue Val players are all very good?
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I know AI is shit in this game, but what's the best AI for both monsters and humans? I'm a bored shithead and I like to start games and immediately hit take a break because I enjoy watching the AI sometimes.

im level 15 so some players are borderline AI-tier and i dont always want to deal with them so im trying to cruise to 20 for ranked

i remember when the game first came out i could AI goliath and he would actually win

inb4 im a niggerfaggot for queuing then making people have an AI.
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>>148554957
The funny thing about what you're saying is that you probably mistake the healing aura for pro healing and the get out of jail free 4 for an above average skill at keeping themselves alive.

Regular Val is better at annoying the SHIT out of the monster, probably the only medic that'll always be worth picking.
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>>148554812
For some characters, it doesn't actually cut back on reload time(unless you are using a perk that decreases weapon switch time). But I do agree it's best to keep cycling through weapons during combat so you can use your entire arsenal as the situation changes.
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Reminder if you hold W and hit enter it'll auto run for you so you can type.
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>>148554957
Slim is unfortunately sort of shit. If you really know what your're doing and have a coordinated team you're at best going to be be doing some slightly above average heals (which will still require you to put yourself in a lot of risk). Compare that to Val who only really has to play keep away, but comes equipped with a shit load of utility and there really isn't that many reasons to play slim.

Hopefully he sees a buff soon, seeing as hes a cool bugman and all.
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>mfw start playing Blitz Markov with damage perks

Holy SHIT monsters fucking melt.
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>>148554812
depends on the class you are. For example it's better to reload as sunny unless someone is in immediate need of a JPB

>>148554957
Slim is a really specific counterpick that requires specific perks and a team comp to actually work. When he does work though he's pretty much the death of all that lives.
The big thing slim brings to the field is obscene amounts of sustain to everyone but himself, this makes focusing him down extremely easy, but if you focus anyone else down it'll take ages to kill them.

I think he needs a rework to his shotgun. Tighten the max spread again and re-add the smart choke, Spore cloud launcher needs to get the fuck out of here and replaced with something that actually works for example an ability that increases the jetpack efficiency of himself and all hunters nearby when activated.
bug also needs to not die from DoT's and only die from direct damage.
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>>148555507

>damage
>not capacity

pleb
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>>148555307
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So with Sunny drop the shield bot and then hold the jetpack beam on the person being targeted or swap to grenade lawnchair?
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>>148554023

Stop being a useless cunt.

Play Sunny and Hank and do the same damage while actually supporting your team so they dont die to good monster players.
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Shit, I wanted to use this as a wallpaper but it's blurry for some reason
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>>148555138
>pick behemoth
>let it auto pick skills and perks
>hit take a break
>shitters picked bucket
>AI shits on them
>AI is about to wipe them, 4th dome stage 2
>D/C

nice game
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>>148556083
>carry me with shields because im a piece of shit

No thanks mate, i'll continue getting praise for melting monsters as bucket
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>>148555931

If you don't have a shield bot down, put one down immediately. If the monster keeps destroying them and your retarded teammates aren't using them as stepping pads, that means he's wasting his pretty time instead of doing real damage

Jetpack boost anyone who is getting focused, if you keep their jetpack fueled the monster has no solution but turning on you (unless they get memed by a 3 seconds glide and helplessly slam into a wall, but then you can boost them enough that they can double vertical boost before the monster combos them into pieces)

If you really have zero fucking things to do (monster hasn't destroyed your shield bot and isn't focusing anyone) or if the monster has decided he's going to fuck you up, simply pull you your grenade launcher and fuck him up back. Hope your Medic isn't retarded (and preferably Val), stay in range of your shield bot
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What the fuck can you do against a team of 4 that actually knows what they're doing and uses voice comms, its so fucking unfair. Want to slit their throats for being such losers they play video games together and try so hard
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>>148556243

This is what bucket players believe
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>>148556327
>Want to slit their throats for being such losers they play video games together and try so hard
holy shit what a manchild
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>>148556342
Okay buddy. It's not my fault if you're being matched with shit Buckets or are shit yourself, but i'm doing just fine.
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>>148556327
Nothing, according to the devs it's fine if few suffer while the majority has fun
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>>148556243
>the meta is based around not letting anyone get downed in a dome
>picks the worst support in the game for survival, isn't even as good damage as cabot

as soon as i see a bucket player I already know the monsters have won
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>>148555596
I think capacity is the way to go too but damage is legit if you think you'll be facing a lot of Wraiths, it's rare to get the full extent of your tesla gun on her.
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>>148556243
>implying you can easily win against a good monster using a shitty support with shitty shielding and have your medic do all the work

This is why Sunny and Hank are the best Supports and things like Cabot suck dick
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>Slim is now on free week

PANIC BOYS

FUCKING PANIC
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>>148556547

Wraith is actually the easiest to maintain. As long as you hold down m1 you won't swap from the real one when decoy is used.
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>>148556471
if bucket isn't paired with slim or emet he is quite useful as that recharge thingy makes up for the lack of a shield bot / shield gun
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lol wew just got wiped in the first dome by a goliath

even got sunny and a non-emet/slim medic and everyone was level 24-30... but here's the catch, the fucking medic was a russian
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Can someone help me not suck shit as Sunny?

I place down my shield drone and it either fails to have line of sight because of some ungodly corner or gets rekt in a few seconds and then the monster goes for me while I'm half a football field away trying to place another. It makes me so ineffective and I don't know what to do about that.

I've also had a problem of medics dying while I'm trying to place the drone and it's really annoying.
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So do you actually get anything for win streaks? I managed to get a small one going just pubbing it as hunter, but I haven't really noticed any benefits outside of completing a hidden challenge or whatever.
>>148556778
Oh fuck me. Looks like i'll be playing medic for the week.
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>>148557012
>if he isn't paired with EMET

When Bucket uses his cooldown EMET gets 12 heal bursts off. He can literally revive downed people around him with it and heal everyone to max health. Literal PANIC button.
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>>148554023
>>148554245
>comparing raw damage numbers with no mention of time spent in match / time spent fighting the monster
what the fuck is the point
10k damage in 4 mins is good, 10k damage in 18 mins is godawful
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>>148556868
Huh didn't know that, that changes things then..
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>>148556471
>>148556625
See
>>148556413


In good hands he's fine, and the reason why half the support characters dont have an acitve shield is because you don't have to babysit the other hunters to win.

Otherwise I would never have won a match playing as Bucket and wouldn't be nearly max level.

The only hunter I have yet to win with on my team is Slim.
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>>148557181
... or maybe

JUST MAYBE

they're numbers from the same match, you fucking turd
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>>148556413

Yeah i guess i just won 43 times in a row because im shit at the game and the buckets i got were super amazing.
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>>148555548
i take weapon swap instead of reload on sunny because it lets me JPB and redeploy the shield drone extremely fast without interrupting my DPS

being a massive pain in the ass to the monster is better than doing 20% more DPS
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So why is maggie bad? Seems like her harpoons are slightly less effective then griff but she can dps while they work and daisy is a life saver. Monster doesn't want to focus the pet or put himself in harmsway puppy guarding a downed player and getting hosed if he cannot at least hurt another hunter doing it.
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>>148557559
>So why is maggie bad?
She's not
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>>148557559
>So why is maggie bad?
Who told you she was?

It's Wasteland Maggie that's bad, Daisy needs an AI overhaul and she's kinda buggy right now but Maggie as a whole is good.
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>>148557559
Itemswap+reload perks on Maggie is a strong counter.
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Is anyone else having trouble with sunnys jetpack booster? Sometimes when I use it, it doesn't seem to do anything and the "ammo" it has doesn't go down.
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Does griffin's 2 count as class ability or do reload perks work on it?
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>>148557273
so? damage is useless as a metric without mentioning time
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>>148557705
You're not having trouble with the weapon, you're having trouble with sub-80 IQ teammates.

Literally tell them that they're boosted, the big fucking orange bar might not be enough for simplefolk.
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>>148557287
Okay buddy
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This game should have had 3 in each role, and twice as many monsters, shits barely different as a hunter and hunting the same thing gets old after ahwile
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>>148557705
Because the people you're boosting arent using it
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>>148557712
Reload perks are SUPPOSED TO work on everything that's not a 4 or obviously not reloadable.

So yes, reload perks work on Griffin's 2.
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>>148557223
>blames his team when he picks a support with no defensive options

kek
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>>148557865
They explained why they didn't do this back at launch. Monsters cost of $150-200k to make, while hunters are around $50k.
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>>148558186
>175,000 dollarydoos

You fucking what
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>>148558186
>he fell for the blatant excuse they used to justify the 15$ 1 Monster DLC price tag
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>>148558186
Well you gotta admit they put some good effort in the visual side of the monsters, having a different model details and sizes for each evolution is pretty neat
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Does poison turrets even work? I thought you could only have the dot on the monster once, it wouldn't be applying and stacking from all 3 turrets, only from one of them and actually none of them if you're shooting you're rocket launcher since it will apply it instead. And I don't think the DoT even shows up as damage in the post damage screen because it's not part of the turrets damage, it's its own thing.
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>>148558186

This may be the worst fucking excuse I have ever seen.
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>>148558148
Where was I blaming any of my teammates? I was calling out people for blaming Bucket players. I didn't blame Slim players for my losses, I didn't even say how close those matches have been.

>no defensive options

Shield, Medic heal bursts, reset cooldowns, shield, medic heal burst, rinse and repeat. It's pretty simple really.

But whatever man, you do you and keep shitting around.
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>Slim on free rotation
>Get medic
>"Hey i never played slim before, tell me if im doing somehting wrong, thanks"


......................
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>>148558587

see
>>148556413

bucket isn't shit-tier like he was at launch but ill take hank and sunny over him any day
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Is the amount of xp you get for a win the same as for a lose?
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>>148557814
>>148557908
So it doesn't actually recharge a depleted jetpack, it only makes the jetpack not count against their remaining fuel while tethered?
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>>148558870
What are you tryna prove there?
Both those posts are mine but im still not blaming anyone i've played with for my losses.
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>>148557814
>he doesn't know something the game never explains, nobody ever told him, and doesn't function like anything else in the game
>therefore he is a sub-80 iq retard
You have a mic big boy, why don't you try using it some time?
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>>148559062
it's essentially a more efficient secondary jetpack that cheapens regular flight costs as well as consuming itself before consuming your fuel.
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>pick lennox
>on match start screen, game says i'm playing as torvald
>i end up being lennox, but with torvald's textures
>giant space marine suit made out of tattooed flesh
it was horrifying. i wish i had grabbed a screenshot
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>>148559062
From wiki
> It allows teammates fly farther, faster, and with less fuel while in range. This is a directional beam similar to the Shield Projector/Damage Amp.
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anyone have a basic guide on what to do if you get focused and you don't have jetpack fuel
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>>148559905
die
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>>148559076
it looked like you implied if a bucket doesn't do well it's because the bucket is shit or his teammates are shit

bucket is nice but if someone is getting bursted down then orbital strike/jetpacks plus shields help more. i guess if the monster has a lot of spread damage or isnt efficiently bursting one person then bucket is better

good monsters will try to burst 1 person down really fast, hank is built to prevent that. bucket trades off the utility for extra damage, but dome survival (until the mercy mechanic kicks in) is what matters most
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Literally every game has slim in it now for me since I'm a low level. He doesn't seem that bad so far but maybe the people playing him are decent or the monster isn't focusing him or something.
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There's an end in sight!
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>>148559905
you grit your teeth and take it in the ass like a good boy
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>>148559905
You press 4
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>>148552449
Sorry, I've been level 21 for 3+ days now and the monster was at 24. Some people are just garbage.
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>be level 18
>idle every game
>take control every 5 minutes to avoid getting kicked
>win anyway

this game is fun
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>>148560106
if the monster focuses slim in a group of pubs = Game over for hunters.
If the monster focuses anyone OTHER than slim = Hunters win.
Slim heals about 400hp every 1.5s in a large aoe, which makes it obscenely difficult to outdps his healing.
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>>148559905

Hope your team helps you
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I haven't found another player who has trapper as their preference, why is that? Trapper is my favorite class but most people I come across have monster or assault as their preferences.
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>>148560138
That's nothing impressive boy my grandma can get a better Wraith winrate
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>>148560482
monster?
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>>148560549
I just play no preference at this point, and if I get monster, I play wraith.

And then pubs talk shit, despite them making no effort to pick monster.
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>>148559905
Don't panic. Try and run and watch your meter. When you can boost out do it. A lot of scrubs like to try and get away without enough to boost and they just get hammered. 80% of the time, if you have full health when the monster starts you'll be able to generate enough fuel to boost away.
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>>148560687
>t. sub level 20
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>>148558290
>>148558360
>>148558537
How's it a bad excuse? Making games like this costs a fuck ton of money. 150k for a monster is not unreasonable at all.
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>Everyone says Parnell is shit
>He is actually the best assault I have tried so far
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>>148560549
Every fucking time have trapper as my preferred class some dumbfuck gets it and he blows dick
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>>148516976
If monster: all three armors. Max them out. Take literally no damage.
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>>148560904
you haven't tried lennox
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>tfw you main Monster and Sunny is in the new rotation
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>>148559905
>it's a "im gonna waste all my jetpack dodging away from the monster because hes right next to me and im rly scared" episode
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>>148560774
I'd go with no preference but that means 80% of the time I'm gonna be monster, which isn't any fun.
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>>148560687
That's what Wraith winrates SHOULD look like desu, well every winrate should be at 50% but still.
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>>148561007
it's balanced out by slim being the free medic
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>want to grind gorgon for level 40
>intense anxiety any time I play monster
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>>148560549
I always thought it was a super hard class, I haven't played Abe yet but Griff and Maggie aren't too bad, fun even.Knowing what I know about the game probably helps too.
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>>148561153
That's exactly why I don't play monster, I also had severe anxiety just pressing the "Find Match" button in Starcraft. Solo pvp makes me nervous.
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>>148560714
human or monster, but monster is more fun to watch

people are really bad at the game

i get around 250-350 tokens for each game too
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>>148561254
>I always thought it was a super hard class
Abe is piss easy. You scan, you track the monster cause you have wallhacks, then just cut it off and endlessly track it whenever you can. Upon catching just spam grenades at it.
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>>148561408
Why can't monster be a fucking tag team? Jesus christ I hate doing it alone. I don't even lose that often, I'm just terrified they'll be mean to me over chat.
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>>148561548
Duo monster and co ordinating ambushes with a friend would be fun as fuck. I don't know how they would balance it though, just adding more hunters into the match doesn't feel like it would work very well. Also they'd have to make some new maps with proper sizes for two monsters.
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>>148561153
1v1 games scare the fuck out of me too mane, i don't know why that is
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>>148561548
I'm usually just grateful the monster was picked at all, tired of no one preferring it in lobby and whoever getting it dodging.
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>>148561548
>>148561153
>"Waaah I'm so anxious of playing a video game ahhh"

Fucking kill yourself.
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>>148561510
NEXT level abe: throw full range stasis nades in front of the monster while you keep him perma tracked

no fun allowed tier: pair up with a val and a sunny
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>>148561153
be more self-assured
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>>148561783
>I told them to kill themselves do I fit in yet guise.
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>>148561783
A lot of people are like that in solo pvp games that favor tryharding.
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jesus is there only 20 people playing right now? i keep getting matched up with the same people and i'm in NA
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>>148561678
because all of the responsibility of winning is only on yourself. you have no allies, its just you and your opponent

with evolve its you vs a team of 4 people which might be even worse
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>monster keeps attacking Griffen instead of swiping the poon
Feel bad for him actually
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>>148561917
No, seriously, if playing a video game is that traumatizing you have fucking anxiety just playing a monster in a random match with people you've never met and never will meet, death might be a better alternative, I can't imagine how beta you have to be to worry about something so stupid.
>>148561936
That makes more sense, tryhards and their winrates I guess could cause anxiety.
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I really don't like playing against elder kraken, any tips? The last couple of games have been me just following the guy around the map marking him and trying to cut him off but it takes soooo long and the stasis grenades don't seem to slow kraken down much.
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>>148562141
>lol loser how can you have anxiety git gud or kys
get out!
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>jetpack off a high cliff
>see monster evolving on the ground far below
>lennox jump strike onto it
there's nothing more satisfying
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>>148562296
>git gud
Never said anything of the sort, just calling out your pathetic behavior and offering an alternative. People get anxious playing games at EVO cause there's money and fame on the line, not a fucking random match of a F2P game.
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>>148562134
lol were you playing with me? was there a parnell too?

wouldn't have mind getting focused because that means support and medic are alive and assault can do mega damage to punish the monster
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>>148561548
i always bully monsters when im right on their ass, never letting them breathe.

I can literally feel the sweat and adrenaline as the monster tries to desperately wiggle out of its dire situation, to no avail.
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>playing wraith when Slim is the medic
Thanks for the free wins faggots
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>>148562558

anxiety is a bitch thing.

Sometimes you cant really control it you know.
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>>148562365
the hitbox on things must be super lenient because i jump striked right next to a monster and still did 600 damage
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>>148562618
K-keep going.
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>>148562809

It's an AOE effect right around you, right ?

I mean, doesn't look like you have to physically strike or land on the monster, as long as it's "close enough", just like Leap Smash but smaller
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How does Lennox fair against elder Kraken?
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>>148562078
anyone got a copy of the media?
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>>148563030
very good

>>148562997
her plasma lance and jump strike both have a very lenient radius/range
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>>148562078
but the day he is offered as a reward is over 2 weeks from now
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>>148562761
No, you can, millions of people do, and over actual things that might matter to them or their lives. Grow up.
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>>148562618
>tfw no hunters to strap you down with harpoons and insult you while they examine every bit of your imposing frame, their jabs and snide remarks only making you squirm more and more
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How the heck do you quick win against an elder kraken that just wants to run away and never attacks?
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>>148563385
Anon stop posting lewds
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>>148563603
I would never
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>>148563547
Cut it off
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>>148563332

Im not the one with anxiety, but i am pretty sure it is almost impossible to actually know how it feels unless you tried it.

Just like usual strong persons can get anxiety attacks from some experiences.
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>>148563719
You better stop right now, anon-kun
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>>148563547
tier whore and its a free win against any monster
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>>148556391

I'd destroy then if this games balance at higher levels wasn't complete trash. Fucking inflating voice comm with buddy faggots sense of self worth and ego be cause they can mash their face in their abilities and perfectly negate the monster. Seriously makes me want to find then and slit their throats while i throat fuck them one by one while the rest watch and beg for their life. We'll see who can use voice command after that and think they're hot shit.
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>>148563719
>>148563846

get out
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>>148563945
Seriously, is /d/ invading or is it the steam group shitting the general up again?
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>>148563945
no u
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>>148518008
>unable to connect to host
>unable to connect to servers
hmm
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I am contemplating buying EMET and using him because I need to get the perk he offers.... Good or bad idea?
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>>148564265
buy the perk instead
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>>148563914
>This much autism.
Please tell me you're baiting right now. I know this is 4chan, realm of the tards, but this is too much.
>>
How the fuck do you aim lightning strike?
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>>148564265
If you're okay with ruining your teams day and losing a lot, sure.
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>i'm bad therefore the character i'm playing is bad
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>>148562978

The best about being the hunter is knowing the monster is feeling ensnared, with 4 burly hunters everywhere ready to stick all their guns down its throat.

A good team will simply make a monster feel like the enemies are everywhere, desperately trying to find a gaphole, only to found out the hole was actually a trap.

It might try traversal out, or hide inside a musky cave, but the end result will always be an exposed monster taking both verbal and physical abuse until it the screams make the game pity it and lets the dome down.

But while the monster see a faint glimmer of hope and escape, i know as a hunter... It will all just start over and over again until the monster kneels in front of everyone and takes its punishment.
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Rocket perks for first 2 perks and gold reload perk for Griff? What's best perks to Grief with Griff?
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>>148563914
That you EMET?
>>
Dude I swear I can't win against Sunny, I just wanna choke her to death fucking stupid nigger
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>>148564331
I'd suggest against this because you can get other perks too, you get like 10k value from buying and leveling a hunter.
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>>148564503
Keep in mind her drone is stationary, so its best to try and drag the fight away from where she placed it. Always try to fight on your terms, not theirs. Dome time wasted is one them, not you.
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>free rotation monster has no health
Oh baby time to pick this elder kraken apart
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>>148564520
It's EMET, you are just getting losses and ruin games for other people.
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>>148564430
t. Autism
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>>148564342
the faster your body is moving the faster lightning strike moves, it spawns on your crosshair.
so if they're jetpacking all around, burn a traversal then cancel immediately into lightning strike and you'll be able to track them no matter where they jetpack to.
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>>148562712
Nice joke faggot
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>>148564472
You should never be reloading as Griff. I go first perk weapon switch and the other 2 rocket perks
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>>148564762
Reload speed affects the things you're not holding, anon. More reload=more harpoons.
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>>148564586
But she can just lay another one down.
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>>148564682
>Down her because the medic can't heal for shit
Only a fool would go for the medic that can't heal first
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>even at higher levels you need to constantly dodge fucking retards picking Slim

what the fuck

goddamn trs pushing slim out as a freebie before buffs
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>>148564762
Does weapon switch perks actually improve reload time otherwise doesn't it make sense to just try to poon more often rather than plink a bit with the rifle?
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>>148564472
Red rocket perk is not worth it
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>>148564430
>jizzing over griefing an underpowered monster

i look forward to "monster grief simulator" die if the devs keep pandering to unskilled grieffags
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>>148564893
Giff reloads much faster when you don't have the harpoon gun out. It's more efficient to switch and spray while you're harpoon is on reload
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>>148564892
Slim is fun, can't wait for the buffs.
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>>148564862
you're a retard
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>>148564347
>>148564614
are you implying i dont already lose the games for my teammates? i have a .3 winrate
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>>148564862
if you're constantly switching weapons, switch speed is a much better perk than reload speed. rank 3 silver gives +70% switch speed by itself
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>>148565019
Alright then, what's best perk load out for Griff?
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>>148564430
boner please
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what should i put points when playing as elder kraken?
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>>148564586
>dome time wasted
the monster is forced to fight on the human's terms to break out now that we have 5 minute dome timers.
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>>148564503
She's annoying but she's a qt.
Don't even try to scratch her you psycho!
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>>148564586
Incorrect with the new match mechanics. the monster HAS to fight the hunters on their terms during the dome otherwise the hunters time scam. All it takes is 2 domes and suddenly you have 2-4 minutes left to constantly fight to stop the timer, or you lose.
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What the fuck, Crow is broken with the Planet Scanner. You can flank even easier with his bird now since you can literally see where the monster is going. I'm getting around 25 pings a game now.
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>>148565823
Gobi is just a shitty tracking dart.
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good lord bot maggie and sunny are useless
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>>148565313
in your ass
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>We're going down the path of nerfing monsters into oblivion because hunters lose on occasion
>AGAIN
One day TRC will get their heads out of their asses, I hope.
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>>148565989
>bot sunny
>manages to get eaten 3 times by the stone rock and by a plant once
>slow as hell, gets in the dome late everytime
I should've pulled the plug the moment I saw a bot
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>>148566190
>>148566190
>>148566190
>>148566190
NEW THREAD
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>>148566212
*stone frog
I should read what I've just written before pressing post
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>play with a friend
>friend likes playing trapper
>he is the worst trapper I've ever played with
>no matter which trapper he picks, he sucks nuts
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>>148564862
Is it better to have fast reload on poon or fast switch to squirt a few rounds between reloads?
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>>148565976

How? You need LOS with the tracking dart. You also can't flank with the tracking dart. You can send Gobi across the map and have it scout elite wildlife too (although you probably should memorize where the spawn since its not RNG anymore).
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>>148566608
You only need LoS once then you should never lose the monster again, and planet scan makes getting the first LoS easy as fuck.
The only way the monster can actually escape the hunters is juking them at a crossroads and running to the other side of the map, and the dart completely prevents that.
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>>148565775
The timer is paused while in the dome, from what I've seen.
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>>148566993
The timer is paused while in combat.
If the monster actually waits out a whole dome they're almost guaranteed to lose on time.
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Someone give me a kissy
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>>148566539
why are you asking the retard? just a simple switch from gauss to poon is faster than any reload perk and with weapon switch speed it is even faster
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>>148566857
>You only need LoS once

And with Gobi you don't even need the intial LoS once. Not to mention a tag with Gobi gives an outline which is far better than an icon on the map. If the monster is good and has traversal/speed perks on, you're probably going to lose LoS at least once.
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>normally don't play monster because got wrecked a few times by getting competent medics and supports against me
>forced to play monster again
>ah fuck it I'll play this time, they're lower level anyway
>pick wraith as it's the periodic one
>rape them in stage 1 but leave because I already got muh evolve on hold
>evolve stage 2
>intentionally waste time eating at the wildlife buffet in a favorable location
>they show up
>annihilate them

stupid slim medics
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>>148565313
2 strike 1 chain 1 spiral
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>tfw evolving as the monster feels fucking useless

Jesus, I liked playing monster in the original version. I felt like I grew stronger after evolving. Now I'm like "I don't even get more damage until rank 3, what's the point."

Lame.
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>>148569564
+25 seconds to the respawn timer
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