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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1130

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>>148256194

■ 4th Anniversary Event ARKS ORDERS RUSH
├ Web Event: http://pso2.jp/players/event/4th_aor/webevent/
└ ARKS Report: http://pso2.jp/players/event/4th_aor/report/

■ Current Update (7/6): 「境界を越えし漆黒の闘神」Part 1
└ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2-jp-maintenance-and-patch-762016/

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ JST: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Scratches: Eorzea Selection (until 8/10), Assault Force (until 7/20), Darkness Ruler (until 12/14)
└ http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/

■ August Updates
├ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2-heads-to-las-vegas-in-a-new-field/
└ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/sachiko-kobayashi-to-perform-in-pso2-live-event/

□ FAQs, Guides (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ http://pastebin.com/CxBP1mEA
├ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ml9MGiN2Ich09mDtR82N1zn62oa1Mp6x6yzRjHrEf8c/ (Last Updated: 7/25/2015)
├ Basic English Patch: http://psumods.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=206
├ Buy ARKS Cash using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa
└ http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2es-guide-chip-database/

□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
├ http://pso2.cirnopedia.info/ (EN - OUTDATED AS FUCK)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Main_Page (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Tree: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affix: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage: http://4rt.info/psod/
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Best mag
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Shut up
Fag
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I need some icons for some 13* boots
It would be cool if you could send me a picture of the info tab like what I have in the uploaded picture. Preferably with no pot unlocked
I just need the Tagami boots and the 13* egg Boots
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I want Lilith to step on me!
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Is it even possible to outrun darker toyhouse when it rampages?
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>>148407274
I want Mistress Lillith to put a leash and collar on me!
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>>148407230
Grandma, you know the library has giant icons you can ask for pictures from there.
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>>148407535
I could, but the visiphone wiki doesn't use the large icons.
Those would be fine too tho.
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>>148407230
Tagami boots. Egg ones never dropped for me.
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>>148407950
thanks m8
Do the tag boots have a translated name?
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>Odin just fucking melts
God damn it, Sega.
I know I'm late. XIV's Victory Fanfare is pretty good.
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>>148407623
I can pm the non-ms paint versions if you need them. only ones I have.
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>>148407326
No! i want her to do it to me first!
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>>148408350
Thanks, all I needed was the tag and egg boots. I have everything else.
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>>148408149
play in a bad group
it's more fun
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Anyone up for AQs right now on ship 2
even for a few runs
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Dead Thread
Dead Game
Dead Dead
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>>148407267
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>used stargem ticket twice
F-fuck am I getting banned?
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>>148410790
>GameGuard
No.
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>>148410790
I wish I could get fucked!
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>>148410110
dead grandma
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>>148411035
Just use your fun ticket redeeming on stargems, because sega wouldn't NOT double check a cash currency!
>10x10 sg tickets
>end up with 120 stargems
I'm 100% getting banned.
Someone hold me
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>>148411145
Rest in Prune juice
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>>148409109
Closet can you service me for 250m?
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>do a thing
>fuck up and almost die
>realize it's a bad idea
>next time do it again anyway
>fuck up and die
>try again just to be sure
>fuck up and die :^)
>stop doing it
I'm retarded.
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>>148411942
The game's so casual that it doesn't even matter. Just keep on doing it.
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>>148411747
The last tab is for resistances, and the kanji for striking is there.
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>>148411648
don't fucking lewd my daughteru you pieceashit
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I have 110 SG, what should I do with it
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>>148412669
Too late
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>>148409109
Ask fucking earlier, this is a dead game, I'd totally go for AQs if it wasn't a 2AM

Can't you ask in the afternoon for a change?
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>>148411145
I wish I could make a proper grandma in this game but there are no old lady faces
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Why are concerts so uncommon? they even advertised it in the animay
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>>148413583
Im a Pacific time fag I cant help it
Only 11:24 right now and I did ask earlier but no one responded in the last thread
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Ranger or Force?
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>>148413773
What usually happens is that a couple of them get scheduled in the span of a week or two before they go away for a few months
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>>148413773
their actually very rare to appear. even during event periods, but when one actually manages to come up they spam the fuck out of it.
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>>148414108
Sometimes.

Other times, they'll just have one or two on a weekend or holiday and that's it
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>>148412669
can i lewd one of your other characters instead
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Does pso2g have any doms or are they all subs?
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>>148415224
they all subs
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>>148415224
Just find a switch, they exist.
I know I am
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Lilith if you're here please step on me!
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Lilith show me your D
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>>148412690
reset collection files
or scratch
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>>148415628
>>148415410
Now that i think about it Lilith doesn't post here anymore do they?
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>>148415979
Show me yours then
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>>148415979
No
So stop bringing lillith up
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>shitposter namedropping himself for attention
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HAHA IT'S TIME FOR GENE POSTING
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DELETE THAT SHIT AND PLAY THE ES EQ
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>>148416597
DUNNO ABOUT YOU BUT PSO2 IS ABOUT EXPLORING PLANETS NOT THE CREVICES OF A HAMBEAST'S BOOBIES
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>>148416448
>>148416705
>2016
>STILL PLAYING ANYTHING PSO2 RELATED
STOP
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>>148416597
geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeneeeeee tiiiiiitsssss
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>purple banther
ayy lmao
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Hello /pso2/
I'm back to play this shit and dead game and I need some help. I wanna know what's the current meta and proper gear for a BR/HU. Pic related is what I had before I stopped playing. I don't wanna be obsolete. Also what's the best skill tree for BR/HU? Please and thanks.
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>>148418047
you want 13* weaps and saiki/austere units depending on what you go for
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>>148418047
>proper gear for a BR/HU
get yourself a red katana/bow as a stopgap
after that feel free to work yourself towards aura/seiga weapons allthough at this point its late for the latter
as for units keep doing featured quests for a chance at bonus keys which might give you some saiki/brisa units
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Tfw taking creepshots of mikan in black lewdkini
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>>148418221
You better post em cause I can't take them myself.
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Why is Spiderbitch always the second boss in the LQ?
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>>148418310
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>>148418206
Why a red Katana tho? I read something about extending weapons being much better. Also what's this new-type weapon stuff? Just as a reference, I think I stopped playing just as EP3 hit. Feels like a new game to me now.
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>>148418047
Tree is fairly straightforward but depends on whether or not you want to use other classes too. I'll wait on your response before crafting one.

Gear depends on level and comfort level.
You can jump into farming Ray weapons, which will require PD runs and XHAQs if you're 75/75, or can reach that soon.
A red katana as mentioned is really effective early on, but make sure to craft it and get the potential, which gives a huge chunk of damage. Way more than that 11* even.

For units, you can struggle through Cmode for 60k cmiles and get the units, or do Zieg COs for his own 11* units which will give you some much needed defense early on. Your goal is probably Saiki as a minimum, though there are alternative unit setups that sometimes require certain weapons to be effective.

>>148418667
Red Weapons have one of the best pots in the game.
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>>148418639
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>>148418639
>>148418740
Best oppai loli. Next time I visit I want a short screenshot session with you though.

>>148418667
Red Katana has a photon booster pot that increases your damage by 16%(level3) when extended.
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>>148418639
>>148418740
I know you have nudes of Mikan. Where are they.
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>>148418740
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>>148418859
miku a best shortstack
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>sexualizing mikan
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>>148418948
fuck i meant mikan
But miku is best everything

Have a random lobby waifu
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>>148418987
Mikan is to remain purified
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>>148418801
>ps4
>mods
kek
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I know you guys want real sexy
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>completely strip a bal rodos for collection sheet
>change over duel for another one
>4% increase
>kill 2 rheos
>3.4% increase

Oh my fucking god kill me
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>>148420574
barf
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>>148420593
boosts multiply the progress you get
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Post more creepshots
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>>148420897
I have one more but it may be too sexy for this board
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>>148421016
Who cares, post it anyway
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>>148420897
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>>148421185
I warned you
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>>148415224
I'm one, but I dont have the looks of one
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>>148421313
My DICK
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>>148421292
i want to protect that ahoge
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>>148421382
I want to chop it off
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>>148421313
I saw this guy in pd
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>>148421292
to hotglue, or not to hotglue.

that is the question.
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>>148421620
How is that even a question? Just look at the face.
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>>148420897
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>>148423198
>Watermelon tits
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>>148423198
oh is it luna time?
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>>148421620
>hotgluing a goblin
lmao
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>>148423836
That is one sexy goblin ain't it?
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>>148423198
I want to fuck this elf
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>>148423198
I want this elf to fuck my elf
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>>148424025
Not worth the space aids
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>>148424248
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>>148424248
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>>148424496
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>>148424496
Her face is pretty fucked up
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>>148425794
post your character
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>>148426164
>>148423198
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>>148425850
My character isn't relevant, your shit taste is.
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>>148426164
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>>148426335
epic
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>>148426335
so it's ugly as shit then lmao

end yourself
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>>148424496
>>148424743
Her voice is pretty annoying
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>>148426234
All right that was fast and yes that'll work. You might have to check fireden later in the day, I'm doing it a good bit later, but it'll be today. Have a nice evening!
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>>148426164
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>its a I'm gonna call everything ugly and never post anything to prove my taste is superior episode

epic
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>>148426637
>it's a you have to be a retard who posts their character outside of victory screen dumps to call anything ugly episode

ebin
every time
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>>148426743
>he continues to avoid posting anything that he thinks is good yet spouts his taste is superior

e p i c
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>>148426978
Oh, yeah, just let me post a character and the possible outcomes will be:
>if your taste is the opposite of good, you don't like it and call it shit; which doesn't matter because your taste is trash anyway if you like that manfaced bunnysuit slut
>if your taste is just randomly shit and you actually like it, you either lie and call it shit (more likely) or try to to backpedal end the conversation ASAP
Doesn't sound too great if you ask me. Here, have some shitty random edgelord instead.
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Do not:
>Play summoner
>Do gathering
>Don't throw pets/candies away
>Buy/Spend SGs
>Use treasure shop
If you do you are a cancer killing the game.
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>>148427763
>not do gathering
Are you telling me to leech without rings?
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>>148427763
I don't even tried to get rings yet after all this time its' been out.
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>>148427404
ok skengs
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Hi how are you

Pro gunner here

Ask me anything
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>>148428209
Nice namedrop but no. You can try a few more but you won't get it right anyway.
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>>148428219
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>148428307
ok skengs
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>>148428358
ok skengs
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>>148428356
Because I don't respond to the many internet death requests you keep sending me
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>>148428496
You got the wrong person. I just hate Gunners.
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>>148428579
We hate you too
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>>148421292
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>>148427404
it's okay

I will rate you objectively with my objectively STRAIGHT TASTE

you can rely on me frend
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>>148429437
I want to rub my dick against that Goblin's face.
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>>148427404
okay closet
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>wanting to fuck closed
Do you guys really want to fuck fag looking guy with autism?
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>>148430793
yes
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Anybody up for ship 2 SHAQ Forest right now?
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>>148432802
block?
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>>148433061
01
Ask near the quest counter who is up for it
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Are there any affix simulators with Doom Break in them yet?
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>>148433320
Yes, like a week ago. hatsunemiku24.ddo.jp/dodo/
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>>148433119
Cool meme
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This pairing.
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it is worth putting more than 1 point in skills like step advance or dual blade escape?
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When crafting units, would there be any drawback to using craft requests for levels 3, 8 and 10 and doing the rest myself?
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>>148435706
None, that's what people usually do actually.
If 10 is your target though, just drop the 3 and 8 specials and craft them up to 9 then request the 10th, there's no need to go through 3-8 specials at all.
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>>148435706
You have to unlock them.
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>>148435965
Oh, so that's how it works?
How far do people usually extend shitty ass Hiei before just moving on to something else?
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>>148435052
I usually go at least 2 on step advance, 3 if I ever have a spare but it really isn't that much of an increase quite frankly.
1 in db escape is fine, but I can't for the life of me ever get the timing for the iframe window right, you might if you're gud enough though. Or just say fuck it and max it for a super lenient extra dodge.
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>>148436080
as far as I know people don't extend hiei
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>>148436194
Don't people extend it some amount so they can use it until Saiki without getting blown up instantly by a passing breeze? Or do most people pick up some intermediate set between Hiei and Saiki now? I have some Gloams lying around from Magatsu bonus runs but I can imagine affixing those is going to be real murder to my wallet as a shitty little level 54.
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>>148435052
For Step, I personally only like it on certain classes, like multi-tree FI or TE.

Dual Blade Escape there is literally no reason not to max it. The tree already has way too fucking many skill points anyway.
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>>148436080
>Hiei
Just get the 3rd special and wait for Saiki or anything else to waste resources.
Doesn't Hiei lose shit when extended anyways? might want to get an "old" set matching your ATK instead like negro, blitz or tian.
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>wait for saiki
love this meme. it isn't possible to get a full set without prem or a trigger party.
>drops from bonus quests
0 drops after at least 20 tokyo gold and countless silvers
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>>148436543
You do know it doesn't drop if you're level 75, right?

I got like 2 units per quest during bonus week.
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https://twitter.com/Del_hexads/status/752895582050529280
Who can tell me which lobby action he uses in the beginning?
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>>148436596
So when does it drop?
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>>148436596
all my keys were used at level 75
IT DOES NOT DROP
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>>148436664
Levels 60-74.

>>148436679
That's because Sega put some retarded arbitrary restriction on that drop.
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>>148434964
I hope to see Huey in episode 4.


He's still ranked among the top for favorite male npcs 4 years running.
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>>148436543
>love this meme. it isn't possible to get a full set without prem or a trigger party.

it is because i farmed saiki doing white area runs
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>>148436959
>cancerposting
lmfao
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>>148436543
Yeah, it's possible. It's called farming Shironia until you get all the pieces. You know, the thing that had to be done a long time ago.
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>>148436662
one of the ichitaro ones
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>>148436543
>love this meme. it isn't possible to get a full set without prem or a trigger party.
You sound awfully assblasted, friend, if it's such a big issue to you organize a trigger party yourself or get prem, but I'll tell you now: trigger party doesn't guarantee Saiki drops at all, I've been in way too many where I came back with nothing at all.
On the other hand, I've gotten at least a couple Saiki drops from bonus and I've only completed it no more than 10 times.
You can always pick anything else like I said, there's been quite a few new sets released recently that are sidegrades to Saiki, or fall back to the one of the older sets I find XQ sets, negro and tian to be somewhat legit.
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>>148437441
>>148436662
Male ichitaro4
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>>148437441
>>148437569
thanks
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>>148436679
You got Dudu curse. You have no luck.
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>>148438436
>>148438469
>oh never party together
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>>148438559
>wanting to party with a person that will do nothing but shitpost or shittalk about you and consume every single moon you carry
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>>148438559
>oh never party together
He wasn't on my block
But I did play with other OH
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>>148438619
>Join a clan
>not want to play with the people in it

You sound like the problem.
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>>148438469
who's the ejaculate apprentice?
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>>148438794
>I GOT NOBODY TO PLAY
>invite them regardless
>NOBODY EVER WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME
yeah sure
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>>148436596
>>148436679
>>148436731
>saiki doesn't drop at level 75
Why the actual fuck would Sega do that?
Why would they lock out the best drop to level 75's, who need it for end game gear?
That doesn't make sense.

I've gotten almost 3 full sets doing keys 63-70 so I know for a fact they drop between those levels
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>>148420808
Do the boosts need to be active when the target enemy dies or at the end of the quest
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>>148436596
>>148436731
>Making shit up
Why?
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>>148439886
Go try it.

Go ahead.
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Should I pay 294 SG for a demise trigger?
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>>148440029
Read what you just said.
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>>148440029
How badly do you want it
If not that badly then the answer is probably no
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>>148440029
294 would be for two triggers
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>>148439938
Saiki isn't exactly a common drop from there as is. That would prove nothing if I didn't get a drop (also I have no Tokyo triggers at the moment).

There is, however, not a single fucking mention of what you just tried to say anywhere on the Swiki bonus quest page. They do mention drops changing at depending on enemy level, but that's just for saying shit like Saiki won't drop while you're level 20.
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>>148436731
So using the keys at around 55 would be a waste? Though I don't know if I could get to 60 before they expire.
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>>148439938
>No, you don't need to break Elder's arms to get 12*s
>Okay don't break his arms and if you don't get a 12* I'm right
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>>148440767
Just farm gigur
>>148439938
99% sure they wouldn't do something THAT retarded. My friend just recently got his 3 saiki's so I'll ask him if he got them on a 75 or not.
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>>148440983
>Just farm gigur
Which difficulty?
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>>148441074
DON"T DO IT

IT IS A BIG WASTE OF TIME

I TRIED IT FOR DAYS BECAUSE CLOSET SAID I COULD GET IT

HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS ALL GONE
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>>148441074
SH, although, his non-rare version rates are awful. There's a 150% rare drop and rare enemy boost week coming up somewhat soon, you could probably wait for that if you don't get saiki before then.
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>>148441074
SH but the droprate is between never getting it and doesn't fucking exist.
Tokyo keys are your best best, at 60+ or 61+ to be safe.

Does anyone know how I check if I have the main class weapon bonus title? I picked up some title that said 10-12* for GU and FO last night but I have no idea how to check if I'm getting the dmg bonus or not..
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>>148441227
Check to see if you have the titles? You can look at your titles any time through the title counter or the menu.
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>>148441394
I tried.
I don't know where it is or what it's called. I need help.
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>>148441207
>>148441227
I don't think I could farm SH gigur at 55 anyway
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>>148441551
All of the titles that look like this

>>148441663
You unlock SH at 50
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>>148441894
Just because you unlock it at 50 doesn't make it a good idea to do it at 50, when I consistently get 2-shot in VH.
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>cutscene where Xiao is talking about cloning
>Talks about how only the very first ARKS were made that way but there are exceptions
>he looks at your character

Shit
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>>148441894
So it's the one after the triboost 100%?
Says it gives a photon booster and a title.
How do I get enough shit for it?
>>148442048
>>148441663
Gigur is 70 on SH pretty sure, so farming that at 50 is going to be hell on earth. You'll get 1-2 shot(generally 1 shot) by EVERYTHING.

It's why allowing SH EQ's to be done by 50's is fucking retarded by Sega.
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>>148442148
Everything oneshots in endgame anyway, might as well get used to it.
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>>148442278
That isn't true.
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>>148442148
>>148442048
Gigur is an incredibly easy boss. He charges up and vocally telegraphs almost every single attack he does. He shouldn't be too hard to beat no matter what level.

The only attack you might have issue with is his sword rush+stab he does when he gets hurt enough, but if you have any way to just guard or have access to mirage escape that attack is a joke too.
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>>148442148
Most SH EQs used to be 65
Then at some point after Seabed they changed them all to 70
Funnily enough SH Despair still maintains a Lv. 55 minimum
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when can we get a boss that have the ability to summon familiar instead of 1 on 1 fight everytime. Couchpotato do not count.
Like RO when boss just summon mob at a certain time just to harass the fuck out of everything
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>>148440913
this sounds hilarious out of context
like yall just chatting about snapping an old dude's arms for his stuff
that's cruel
>>
Anyone on ship2 want to buy 06「悲しい」 for a reasonable price?
It's 525m on the visiphone atm.
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>>148442096
>pso1's arks is a gang of terrorists fighting to dismantle the government
>pso2's arks is a bunch of clones and forcibly converted cyborgs, engineered to take orders from the top w/o question and kept complacent with superficial activities
what happened
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>>148442096
What cutscene is that?
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>>148444157
Xiao's 3rd event in ep2 sub. When Xiao looks at your character after saying there are exceptions, your character nods.
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>>148444151
What happened is ARKS are just a last ditch effort to try and stop the spawn of a mad man-made god from destroying the universe.
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>>148439938
>>148439886
>>148436596
>>148436679
Saiki units drop at level75.
Person I talked to got a drop at 75/75 and they are very trustworthy because they were farming saiki for a looong time.

Please stop spreading misinformation
>>
am I supposed to have only 550 HP at level 61
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>>148444947
I have 512 HP at 74/70 so yes
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>>148444992
So how do I stop getting oneshot by everything
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>>148445124
levels
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>>148445124
dont get hit
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>>148444947
What race/class

>>148445124
Start getting good at dodging stuff. Alternatively, get better/craft your units because most things shouldn't be oneshotting you at that amount of HP.
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How do you make a good Dewman face
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>>148444151
Does that mean that the reason for our character's memory problems in ep4 could be because our real character is still in cold storage and we're currently playing another clone?
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>>148446305
>playing dewman
Human and newman are the only races worth playing
>>
>try to turn my 4 slot item into 3 slot
>succeed at a 40% and 20%
What the fuck
>>
>>148447865
They know.
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>>148447865
>Try to downslot
>0.00000000001% chance everything passes
>It does
>Try to upslot
>99.99999999999999999999999999999% chance to succeed
>fails
Fucking gamestop.
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>>148446305
Why do people specify race for this
It's pretty much the same model and techniques for humans and newmans and fleshhead casts, isn't it
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>>148426164
Do this >>148407274
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>>148448172
I dare you to not feel triggered over caseal cheek/face deformation caused by massive ears
>>
Dewmans have weird really flat lighting so a face that looks good on any other race won't necessarily look good for Dewmans
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Can someone explain me why ais vulcan is a meme weapon if i cant allocate the resources for austere
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>>148420574
Why Epona such a giant normalfag
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>>148448528
It has an Orbit-like drawback without the benefit of Orbit's holstered PP regeneration

That doesn't make it a meme weapon, though
I wouldn't take anyone who used the phrase "meme weapon" very seriously
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>>148448528
>meme weapon
technically, wouldn't a meme weapon be a weapon widely used, and not a "joke" one
what the fuck happened, fucking language "evolution" man
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>People just sit behind the walls collecting and don't even bother to do anything about infections or bomb
Why the fuck even
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>>148450519
Brain is on perma retarded autopilot.
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http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com/wiki/Main_Page
Jet Butts are mostly up to date now
What wep list next?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10746027
I'll use the results of this so I don't have to ask anymore
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What are the classes commonly considered bad?
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When my character progression is locked behind time gated, schedule only EQ's, I will stop playing this game.

I will not sit around waiting for pops, I won't check twitters or schedules or base my life around them. I will simply stop playing until episode 5 or 6.

Does anyone else feel the same way as me?
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>>148451447
Beyond memes? Honestly none of them. Some of them are better than others at most stuff (force), but I don't think there's a single class that could be considered bad if used properly.
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>>148451628
fuck off then
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>>148451628
progression isnt locked behind EQs though
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>>148451628
But it's been this way since ep2?
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>>148451707
>but I don't think there's a single class that could be considered bad if used properly
Bo
Te as anything but a subclass
Su
Gu
Hu as anything but a subclass
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>>148451835
>Beyond memes
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>>148451770
It isnt, but if my character progression STARTS to be, that's what will happen.

Right now I have plenty of content to do to progress that isn't locked behind EQ's, but if that ever happens, I'll stop playing.

My point is asking if people feel the same way.

My second point is curious why game devs have been doing this "time gating" of content since TBC in WOW.

>>148451773
It eventually gets that way, yes. Then I stop playing for a year or more.

It should stop getting like that. At least now we have idea/ares/austere that isnt as purely time gated(austere requires eq's still..).

Ultimates also gave BIS weapons in EP2 and could be bought with excubes so not "purely" time gated.
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>>148451835
>memes: the post
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>>148451447
>>148451835 Is a really good example of the meme answer, though.
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>>148451889
>>148451951
How are any of those points incorrect?
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>>148452020
it would take far more effort to dissect it point-by-point than what you put into meming it
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>>148448851
>>148449641
Are not stun/gravity/upper trap enough to offset that though?
am i missing something more when it comes to its drawbacks?
it also seems to boast second highest base attack power after austere as well and its potential works even if you dont crit
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>>148452159
Which of these classes are actually seriously used?
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>>148452361
Literally all of them
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>>148452020
Bo/Hu, Gu/Ra, Hu/Fi, Su/BR or Fi and Te/Br are all perfectly viable for general play if used properly
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>>148452361
ship 2, everyone
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>>148452394
>>148452401
Good luck finding groups when everyone wants maximum efficiency.
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>>148452020
>>148452361
Try reading the entire post next time.
Literally no class struggles to do anything in this game. In fact every class can fucking walk over any content in this game.
>but X class gets the best TA times!
A BO got 1:22 along with a TE/BR, FO and BR all gaijin team so the gap isn't anywhere as close as you think.
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>>148451447
Did you mean main classes? Because if so yeah none of them are bad.

However if you meant class combos, there's plenty. Bo/Fo comes to mind as potentially the worst class combo, or maybe Hu/Fo.
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>>148452576
>A BO got 1:22 along with a TE/BR, FO and BR
Dual blades or memeboots?
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>>148452559
>max efficiency = all FO
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>>148452737
both
he's a 'meme' boots enthusiast too you fucking memeing faggot
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>>148452737
Both
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>>148452576
>hey guys this people got 122!
that's too slow man fastest is 57seconds
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I'll ask this again.
What are the top3 DPS classes(over the course of a boss fight).
FO/TE
FI/HU
BR/HU
?
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>>148452991
FO/TE
FO/TE
FO/TE
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>>148452737
Using only one weapon is what makes the class bad along with the retarded class combos people seem to go with Bo
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>>148452991
this is so stupid because in an organized MPA you will usually have a few mixed classes around for fastest kills, which usally involve BoTe/GuTe/TeRa/BrGu etc
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>>148452945
>all gaijin team
>comparing to fastest
and the point is the gap is not even big
if they were bad classes you'd be 1min+ apart not less than 30 seconds.
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>>148452736
Force is pretty much the worst subclass by far.
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>>148452879
>>148452918
How do you actually play Bo properly anyway?
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>>148452991
>over the course of a boss fight
>no TE at the top because Zanverse
???
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>>148453174
If they don't get the best times then they're bad, welcome to the tryhard world my furendo
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>>148453160
>BoTe/GuTe/TeRa/BrGu
What the hell happened
What do any of these even do
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>>148453204
You use both since rapid boost and pbf are what makes the weapons good and it's a dumb idea to skip out on one to "maximise" the other
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>>148453426
So what should your mag look like?
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>talking shit about classes
>not knowing what more than half of them can actually do
>muh FO FI BR are the best though
Seriously?
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>>148453160
>BO/TE
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
STOP FUCKING SUBBING TE ON BO
STOP SUBBING BO ON TE
ITS NOT HARD TO NOT SUB SOMETHING FUCKING RETARDED
JUST STOP DOING IT
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>>148453475
s-atk
switch strike
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>>148453324
Did you stop playing in ep1? Bo/GuTe for stronger zanverse though TeSu could possibly work as well as bring main class buffs TeRa for wb and buff slave to save a slot for another dps, BrGu for banish-chain shenanigans
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>>148453583
>he doesn't know
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>>148453324
not him and I don't know what he means by BOTE, but
>GUTE
zanverse
>TERA
WB and buffs
>BRGU
Are you fucking kidding me
Have you never seen the Elder/Loser?mag nuke videos that are everywhere?
Holy shit play the fucking game
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>>148453204
Boss:
Strike Gust (or gran wave x2) + Vinto (kick) under RB
PBF + Immortal
((Immortal + Kite) or (Justice x2)) + Kestral Rampage type-0
Mobs:
Moment Gale + Vinto (shockwave)
Dispersion Shrike (if you want to attack from above at the safest distance)

Break Stance is becoming more useful lately

That's pretty much the gist of it. DPS will always be less than Limit Break stuff, which would be fine if BO actually had meaningful support
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>>148453693
>he doesn't know either
pso2g confirm shitters
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>>148453324
>>148453232
>>148453160

I'm asking solo.
Sorry if I didn't ask the question properly.
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>>148452991
That's a question that can't be answered without way more specifics.

Which boss? In a pub or organized setting? What is the makeup of the rest of the party?

>>148453324
Bo/te is the best zanverse on breakable parts. Gu/te is best zanverse outside of wind weak/breakables. Te/ra is shifta+deband+wb+some other support techs slave. Br/gu is by far the best burst damage in the game by combining chain trigger and banish arrow. Can easily hit 10m+ (the maximum damage the damage records will show) on banish
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>>148453791
FiHu and FoTe are pretty close to each other on solo-ing bosses
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>>148453583
Retard, BoTe with breakstance niren can put down the strongest zanverse where applicable. That guy is not talking about those fucking moment gale shitters that memeing fucks like you know so well
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>>148453909
Also RaHu vs Elder/Loser/TD
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>>148453745
BOHU has much higher survivability than FIHU under Limit Break so it's understandable.
Its stronger than BRHU or HUFI at single target with worse general mobbing. I'd call it balanced considering the melee classes.
>>
>Bo can use techs
>FiHu and BrHu can't still
>FO have literally have everything
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>>148454289
>npcs can give you TE main buffs
Who cares
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>>148454289
>FO literally have everything
It's funny how 'competitive' mpa or party setups are based around giving FO the few things they don't have so they can take advantage of it, like the other classes are just supplemental gimmicks while FO can do anything it wants.
This game is so balanced.
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>>148453791
>solo
You mean like in SH or like in an XH EQ boss?
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>>148454353
NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, I WANT TO FUCKING CAST SUPPORT TECHS LIKE ZANVERSE AND ZONDEEL
>PSO2ES INNATE TECH WEAPONS
NO
>>
>playing meme gimmick setups

end yourself
>>
So FoTe is the only relevant DPS, correct?
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>>148453745
>Break Stance is becoming more useful lately
can you get away with break stance for db or rainbow still the way to go?
might move all those points from s attack ups if its worth it
>>
>not being good at playing meme gimmick setups

end yourself
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>>148455206
correct
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>>148455206
Yup.
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>>148455206
If that's what you're getting out of this, sure.
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>>148455206
Affirmative
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>>148455735
Well, every other viable combo seems to be purely support-oriented to boost up your Fo's damage.
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>>148455206
Absolutely.
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>>148455206
Undoubtedly.
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>>148455525
>>148455662
>>148455736
>>148455919
>>148455965
I don't even know if this is just a meme or not anymore
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>>148455783
That's not really true at all. If by viable you mean absolutely best possible, then during TD, TAs, and PD yes you are correct.
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>>148455965
>>148455919
>>148455736
>>148455662
>>148455525
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>>148456160
>oooh hohoho sameguy evrybody1 euhdkhdh!
kill yourself
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>>148456109
Why would you play suboptimal setups?
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>>148456109
>fo
>best for pd

lamoo
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>>148456331
gj lol
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>>148456423
Fo is the best in PD, wheres the guardians guy? tell this nigga.
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>>148456160
oh no :^((((
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>>148455186
I agree with this.
Sick of morons talking about running shit like TE/BO and BO/TE for their 2 minute faster EQ run that you can only run once.

Like, what's the fucking point? You geared and swapped to something to kill a boss 2 minutes faster so that you can log off 2 minutes faster?

The only thing that matters is optimal solo/duo builds/clases.
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>>148456518
>old and busted pd

lamo you fucking poser
>>
>>148454675
Like
XH
XH EQ's
80 AQ's
Ultimate
XQ's
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>>148456423
But it is

Talis fast throw ragrants on double and barant the tongue when he pulls it out after the 3rd down. Then ragrants and barant the PD bits until 3 break and you get a phase change, then break the little bits it sends out and skip right to phase 3, break the little bits again, run to to him and ragrants the eye, barant the head, ragrants Persona, barant in front of the eye, win.
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>>148456653
>Not playing team EQs and improve times
>He plays for rewards
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>>148456624
The quality of posting
is
highly important
to 4chan no /vg/ imageboard
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>>148456524
all me :^)
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>>148456518
Guardians used Br/Gu strat though (that still works btw). Fos were basically only there for double and panic.
>>
>>148456701
>FiHu
>Uses doll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJ_wfT4-1A
>FoTe
>0 deaths and faster time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SapPjfC-Bok
>>
>>148456653
Then what are the viable solo class combos?
>>
>>148456624
wow nice one janny
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>>148456791
other classes do more damage in both phases

the only reason fo is optimal for double is le zanverse meme
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>>148457043
>Br/Gu
>PD
Don't even try to make shit up
>>
EQ's don't matter.
EQ's are not challenging enough to min/max more.
Please stop min maxing and basing your opinions on whether or not X is good in EQ when someone asks about class tiers.
>>
>>148457153
You need to panic one of its parts for the strat
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>>148457056
>double saber
>using crafted deadly circle for damage
>nobody

>ponti

nice try faggot
>>
>>148456624
Why was this deleted?
>>
What is even so wrong with the game being imbalanced?
Every game is. Every game will always have a meta.
"Bad" balance is more fun than good balance.
>>
Fuck off phone users
>>
>>148456653
>what's the fucking point?
Because I can, I have gear and trees for both, memesupport classes and regular.
Can't see an issue in switching to whatever you feel like playing, really.
>>
>>148457221
There are challenging EQs, but these do not rely solely on minmaxing so the point is moot anyway
>>
>>148457632
lmao gb2ro
>>
>>148457043
Yes but FO is still better than the other classes at PD if no BrGu strat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Zshqv1VhU
>>
>>148457783
>minmaxers will only ever use the best option anyway so better balance doesn't change shit for them
>clear distinction between weaker and stronger classes allows players to engage in self imposed challenges
>there's no PvP anyway
I see nothing wrong with this
>>
>>148457698
memesupport builds are literally worse than showing up in +0 units with no affixes and a 200 sattk weapon
>>148457716
That's my point.
>>
People actually running Br/Gu or Bo/Te niren orochi in pub MPAs are a massive fucking red flag for those people not knowing what they're doing. That shit just doesn't work without the coordination of an organized MPA.
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>>148457632
Imbalance is good.
This games balance is pretty good, honestly.
Episode is an example of imbalance completely ruining the game, though.
You need some semblance of balance, like we have right now.
The main things that need to be done is nerfing FO's damage slightly because something so safe shouldn't be doing more or equal damage to unsafe melee.
Also remove automate halfline from existence forever.
>>
>>148458138
Calm down shitter >>148453160
>>
>>148456854
>He creates himself artificial goals

Sega could poop a giant smelly turd and you would be still the kind of people that tries to get the best time on it
>>
I would like to round out my wand collection with an ice wand, is there a specialized 12* (or below) worth putting together for that or should I just grab some Rays or something (and use an element changer of course)
>>
>>148458257
I don't think my post was meant in the tone you think it was.
>>
>>148458138
Yeah, and you see this garbage 24/7 now.

People who are garbage at the game and think "oh hey look there's support builds! my shit gear and garbage play will surely make me an asset to my team if I support them!"

No, that isn't how it works. If you're a useless fuck, you're gonna be even more useless as a fucking organized only MPA(why do this in ep4? everything has limited amount of kills now) combination.
>>
the reason pso2 and their mpas are so bad is that none of them play fo

you always see those gu's, hu's, fi's and fucking br's
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>>148458319
>He can only play the game whenever sega tells him he can
Hahah feels good to not be an EQ slave
>>
>>148458212
>The main things that need to be done is nerfing FO's damage slightly because something so safe shouldn't be doing more or equal damage to unsafe melee.
Force also requires a much larger investment of both real and in-game money, as well as time. It SHOULD be the best class.
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>>148458319
>Sega could poop a giant smelly turd

that's the new xh ta
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>>148458319
>artificial goals
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>>148458350
>why do this in ep4? everything has limited amount of kills now
While I agree with most everything else you said, some people do find running stuff as fast as possible to be fun sometimes. Fucked up I know.
>>
>>148457980
>memesupport builds are literally worse than showing up in +0 units with no affixes and a 200 sattk weapon
But you yourself mentioned how they made the run go faster, how is it worse?
Make up your mind, seems like you're advocating "inefficient" playing because "the game isn't hard enough to warrant min-maxing" or because now there's a limit in runs, so why not go with those "+0 units and a 200 satk weapon" you also mentioned if it's so easy.
Why are you so mad though, just don't join any "organized" mpa if that shit bothers you so bad.
>>
>>148458212
Remove automate
Buff damage of HU by at least 10%
Nerf FO damage by at least 10%
Chain main class only

Gives HU more of a niche as tanky but not brainless, still deals less damage than a FI, and reduces FO as being a dumb god class.
Also makes BR/GU go away because it trivializes several EQs with less than 4 people even.
>>
>>148457897
If you mean for the entire EQ then yes, mostly due to double though, and the panic that you for some reason didn't go for. On PD itself Fo is still good, but other classes can do just aswell or better.
>>
>>148458212
Episode TWO is an example of imbalance completely ruining the game.
Forgot the 2.
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>>148458425
>He doesn't skip worthless EQs too

Feels good not to be a pso2 slave
>>
>>148458637
When most people say PD, they mean Double and PD combined. Nobody really gives a shit how fast you can kill PD while ignoring the Double time.
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post redcafes made for breeding
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>>148458637
>but other classes can do just aswell or better.
no they can't, they're too slow vs talis fast throw FO
>>
>>148458415
I want more pictures of you in the 4th row outfit
>>
>>148458525
Well, PD gives you a rank for it
Other than that, eh
>>
>>148458860
>breeding
How is she gonna feed the baby when she ain't even go no tiddies?
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>>148458860
>breeding
>is a giant cuck
hahahahahahahaha
ahahahahah
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>>148458671
It really was

Like, right now, there is imbalance, but the proportional player counts don't really reflect the consensus on that for the most part

But in EP2 everyone flocked to Braver and Gunner for their bullshit, it was ridiculous
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>>148458907
>talis fast throw
Please explain.
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Should I be taking 500+ damage from everything in VH or am I undergeared
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>>148459420
Have talis fast throw> throw> ragrants, WOWOWOWOWOW DPS
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>>148459198
Exactly.
It's ok for some classes to be slightly weaker and for one best class, but it's not so bad that the majority of people are running around mashing illmegid like braindead morons and killing everything with 0 effort.

At least force takes a lot of effort/money/resources as this anon said>>148458478

Does it need nerfed? Yeah, but you aren't spinning in circles doing dumb as fuck effort 1 shotting trash and killing bosses in 5 seconds without having a brain, you STILL need a brain and other classes are still competitive.
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>>148459552
Probably undergeard. What are your units?
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>He thought PD buff was going to make Fo irrelevant
AHAHAH LMAO@URLYFE
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>>148459582
Okay, what do you need fast throw for? JA timing is the same with or without it and you don't need it to go to max range.
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>>148459848
Covers distance a lot longer and faster for ragrants, that's pretty much it I don't know what else you want me to say.
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>>148459848
They're likely referring to double, and fast throw ragrants being the best method for taking it out.
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>>148456081
It really isn't to most people.
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>>148459672
Hiei+10 extended to lv3
Most regular enemies hit me for 200-400
Bosses hit for 450-600
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>>148460067
That makes more sense I suppose, though I'm not sure why you'd need the fast throw there either. Never ran into any trouble without it there. The Talis moving faster doesn't really matter since you wait for the JA anyway, right? Just trying to understand.
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>>148460570
So should I just drop my current character for a FoTe? I'm okay with spending money on extra skill trees.
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>want to play game
>FO can do everything better than I can
>best thing I can do is be a gimmick for specific quests while FO can do anything and everything effortlessly
FO killed the game
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>>148461045
Why don't you just play FO yourself?
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>>148461105
FO isn't fun for me. I want to shoot things and hit things. Casting alone is seldom entertaining in online games without mixing it up.
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>>148461692
If you want to have fun, why are you playing an MMO?
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>>148460939
Throwing the talis to max distance without fast throw takes much longer, and you actually lose JA to get the absolute maximum length without fast throw. Since double likes to move around a lot, and you have to recast talis a lot thanks to ragrants charging in .3-.4 seconds, fast throw saves a lot of time.
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>>148462017
Not everyone only plays to flirt or tryhard
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>>148460810
Maybe try to extended it to lv8 special. That's well over 100 more defense right there.
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>>148460952
The gap between the absolute best and the worst classes isn't as much as many make it seem. Play what you enjoy and are good at. Force is definitely the best overall class, but it doesn't render everything else useless for general play.

Alternatively, see >>148452576
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>>148452576
>a Fo and TeBr carried x and x shitters playing the worst classes
Nice, I feel sorry for the person trying to rank with 2 idiots
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>>148459007
Breasts grow when you are pregnant
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>>148462379
Lv8 for VH? Seems like overkill, really. Do people really go that far?
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>>148462787
>I don't know how the XHTA works!
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>>148462787
>BR
>worst class
>thinking 1:22 is possible with 2-3 people 'carrying' in XHTA
Nice, you don't play the game.
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>>148462892
Well, you're going to need lv8 eventually. Not like you're going to get saiki instantly upon reaching SH.
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>>148462968
BR is bad for XHTA
but not GU/RA bad
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>>148463406
Obviously, it has guren
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>>148462017
The combat is legitimately fun. Guruguru EQ/LQ mpas aren't because everything melts, but Ult was pretty fun while it was alive. TDs are actually somewhat tense without FO around to nuke all the spawns. All this game needs to be addicting is more early EP3-esque balance and more challenging content, the PD revamp was good.
The fashion is good too.
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>>148463406
It clears Ringa room very easily. The BR player soloed that room and got out the same time as the rest.
That time is still not possible with any dead weight.
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Is there even going to be an ep 5?
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>>148463652
Its only "good" because the rest of the team is not faster. Otherwise he would be the new limp leg.
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Are any of the R-Atk classes remotely good?
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>>148463775
>It's only good enough to be just as good as the good classes to get a good time
As said >>148452576
that's not a huge gap.
The only people who believe any main class is legitimately bad in this game for any content are people who don't play the game.
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>>148463652
This isn't true, the force and techer clear their room a good 10-15 seconds before the others.
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>>148463890
they only excel where FO doesnt
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>>148463890
Braver can be used to melt bosses with the right sub, every MPA needs at least one Ra for WB purposes, Gu is >fun.
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>>148464002
Seems like you are missing the point here >>148463406
Its only calling it bad for XHTA. You see it good because the rest of the team is no better.
>Additionally
I bet the player is bad or with poor piss gear, because he should clear it faster than its teammates.
From 1:22 to 50 seconds is a huge gap.
Hell, even 2 seconds is a huge gap.
Now they gotta fix their shitty limpleg.
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>>148464254
>I bet the player is bad or with poor piss gear, because he should clear it faster than its teammates.
To make it clear, a good player can do it faster, but not #1 INRAN-tier of speed. Other class combination is king right there and overshadows BR.
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>>148464254
So whats your ranking dude? You seem to know so much about that TA.
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>>148463890
CT is the most overpowered skill in the game by far. People forget this because it requires a bit of organisation/setup to be good though, so they never notice it in pubs.
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Okay so all memes aside
Tell me which class combos to play if I actually want to be useful
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>>148464028
That's because there were two of them and in the toy room. 2 mobs and 1 pinata boss vs the other rooms 1 boss and 2 minibosses.
>>148464254
If you're going by TA standards yes. I assumed you were the guy who replied to the original post about the time and so was branching off to call BR 'worst class' in general since the first >>148462787
response did not specify 'worst classes for TA'. The original point was that even in TA, the tryhardiest of content, the gap isn't huge enough to say anything bad about the class.
You're talking a class + weapon type suited for mobbing in an all boss quest and it can still get a good time.
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>>148464565
Fo/Te if you want to melt everything I guess.
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>>148464565
You play stop being a fucking tool.
Alternatively, Ranger, if you're as much a doormat as you seem. All shitters who pretend they're useful play Ranger. Spam End Attract while you're at it.
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>>148464657
That kuron room is actually by far the longest if you're attempting to solo it without nuking things with barantsion.
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>>148464801
I just don't want to waste my time with shit that isn't worth the time or effort.
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>>148464801
not everyone is kayleth or sign
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>>148464875
You won't play FO because it will cost you too much meseta and therefore time and effort to gear up. Play Ranger. You fucking tool.
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>>148464801
What if I spam One Point instead :^)
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>>148464824
By far is stretching it. It's definitely not long enough to be considered proportional to two player's worth of damage compared to the other rooms one.
If you have two players in that room ofc they come out sooner.
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>>148465056
Or sophia tier
>Never JA one point and end attract to miss
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>>148462787
>>a Fo and TeBr carried x and x shitters playing the worst classes
How the fuck can they carry them when they're not even in the same room you dingus.
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>>148464893
Thats rude
Im just leveling subclass man
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>>148465009
I don't mind putting money and time into an overpowered class that can faceroll through the entire game.
I just don't want to waste my time with a class that takes more effort and causes me more frustration than necessary. I just want to play the best shit.
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>>148464565
i find Br/Hu to be fun, but you might like something else
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>>148463652
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>>148465568
I'm not asking about fun, I'm asking about effectiveness.
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>>148465543
>>148465729
>in this casualfest of a game
Okay play FO. You will have to buy extra skill trees with real money to truly faceroll the entire game.
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>>148465826
I'm fine with that.
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>>148464254
>I bet the player is bad or with poor piss gear
You say, about the group of players who almost certainly run that quest faster than you ever have.
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is fahren units or weapons any good
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>>148466120
No, to both units and weapons.
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Why is Br/Hu so popular? It's garbage
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>>148466346
casual friendly
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>>148466346
easy, simple, *teleports behindyou* nothing personnel kid
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>>148466346
>It's garbage
Really?
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>>148466531
Melee in general is garbage.
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>>148464565
FoTe
RaHu
FiHu
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>>148466993
>FiHu
kek
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What's with the scaling on Musashi's partner card CO

47,550 EXP at level 75 and scaling down further based on level seems to imply the full reward is like 50,000, but you'd have to be like level 80 or something to even get it which is impossible right now
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>>148466993
Dont forget SU/BO
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>>148467546
wat
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>>148467546
Please fucking stop
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>>148466993
Should I drop my current class for one of these?
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>>148468265
Every class is fine except bouncer.
Bouncer is the only "eh" class.
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>>148468265
Why, what're you currently playing, you can play more than 1 class you know that right?
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>>148467395
It's very good if you know what you're doing.
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>>148468265
If you don't have an answer by now just stop. People have given you almost every single opinion under the sun about what classes to and not to play.
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>>148468459
People will look down on you if you aren't fote, rahu, fihu or techer with a good subclass. Members of Night arks and lgnition won't even talk to you if you aren't fote.
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>>148468812
>Members of Night arks and lgnition won't even talk to you if you aren't fote.
Doesn't matter if you die over stupid shit or don't even know how to zondeel to increase your performance, they want you as fote.
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>>148468812
For organized runs you NEED the correct classes as they have class roles to EQs, Fo is common
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>>148468756
That was pretty much the first reasonable answer I had gotten.
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What can you guys tell me about some shitposting couple that used to play here on ship4?

in xivg their names are green and purple and they try to lure people to a dead server

>>148468965
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>>148469193
>purple
I would say lang but the hottest drama shit right now is about koishi and nishitzono
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>>148469193
>>148469290
Fuck off
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>>148469098
And that's why people feel like playing this game is a fucking chore.
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>>148469193
Congrats, your general is dead if those two are there.
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>>148469193
fuck off idiot, nobody cares about your irrelevant e-relationships
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>>148469193
I bet it's Nishi and Nhite
They both are very autistic especially Nihite

He loves to write walls of complete bullshit and dump it somewhere
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>>148469827
>Not liking Nhites posts
I bet you're great at parties or social events
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>>148469827
>>148470094
You guys got any gems you can show me from the archives?
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>>148470094
Nobody loves shit as much as you do Nhite
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lmao why the fuck do people still play gunners lol
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>>148468812
Only one of those teams are worth a shit and I'll give you a hint, it ain't nightcucks.
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What can you tell me about Koishi?
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>>148471005
just another attention whore, dramafaggot and manipulative fag

what else theres to know
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Stop namedropping, no one cares
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>xivg crossposters asking for edrama bullshit
this is a new low lads
it never ends
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>>148470253
Because its fun
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>>148471327
that face again
does it only pick certain ones or what
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>>148471282
we should have shut this general long ago
not like anyone actually plays this shit game anymore
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>>148471282
To be fair xivg is way worse than this general just because of that one truly autistic person
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>>148471509
I miss all the scheduled EQs due to life most day so I'm a featureds and tacos with the odd daily kind of fucker right now. Hell I've had a TA set up since Monday night that I have get to get to.Maybe tomorrow or Saturday.
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>>148469827
i want to cuddle nishi
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>>148469827
Arie also plays FFXIV and Memetty
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>>148330938
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>>148471679
which one
harkenia or some shit? the tera gen fucktard?
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>>148472090
FFXIV also stole our prince of memes and I'm still mad.
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>>148472848
>prince of memes
who?
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>>148472903
>who?

r u new?
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What are advance quests for?
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>>148473246
they advance
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>>148473246
These days it's pretty much just boosted EXP and collect file objectives
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>>148473246
EXP, stat3 + soul units, ultimate buster + soul +stat units, tagamikazuchi, mesetans, and this >>148473483
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>>148473610
When should you start doing them? And do you need a coordinated group for them?
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>>148473610
>Ult Buster
When does that start dropping? 71? 75? 80 only?
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>>148472320
good effort/10
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dicsuss
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how do i join guardians?
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>>148473610
>ultimate buster + soul +stat units,
weapons*
also I guess include mutation
>>148473726
a group will make them worthwhile yes.
you should start doing VHAQs at level 45 for the EXP mostly but high slot stat3/soul units are worth money in some cases (attack boosting souls only really).
SHAQs aren't really worth doing right at 55 unless you have a high level party to carry you, and the point of having a party besides exp is being able to PSE burst = kill mobs fast to extend the timer. Better done at around 70 and after you get a good 12* or 13*
>>148473751
not sure, I only run level 80 when going for drops
>>148473789
thx
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>>148473984
literally who
>>
「禍津」Y/N
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>>148474169
I'm level 56 and I've never touched VHAQ. But I heard that everyone running them insists on speedrun tactics and you're likely to get kicked if you show up as anything but FO
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>>148471964
do it
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>>148474324
>6 PM EST

N
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>>148473327
???
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Is Magatsu even worth doing below SH?
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>>148474351
That isn't strictly true on ship 2 at least
People just run VHAQ for experience so they tend to go as whatever class they need in parties, so long as it has a reasonable subclass combination.
Exit bursts are also much harder to pull off since enemies were made not to despawn as quickly so I haven't seen much in the way of maximum efficiency strats.
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>competitive pso2
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>>148474602
At those levels, you probably don't have anything better to do anyway
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>>148474602
It gives excubes in VH so there's that.
>>
>>148474856
>>148475000
Will I get fucked up if I go into VH Magatsu totally blind?
>>
Should they retire all those old EP1&2 EQs? Not like Elder (although you could make an argument for that too) but stuff like Subdue Fang Banther or Desert Guerillas?
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>running TAs
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>>148475157
If you're not well equipped for your level range yeah. People seldom are in VH so you can kind of expect everyone to get fucked up.
Do it pussy.
>>
>>148475157
Probably. If you're lucky maybe there will be a 75 in there to carry you.
>>
where in the fuck are you supposed to find people to do cm
>>
>>148475502
The shared ship
although I imagine most people will just bide their time until the CM+100% boost we're getting from the event
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>>148475660
When is that happening?
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>>148475915
August 3 through August 10
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>>148477213
As dead as dead can be
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>>148477213
>>148477349
we're all doing maggy of course
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>>148477895
>>
>>148479683
nice mpa oh
>>
>all these retards pretending to be useful by playing ranger
>keep shooting and overriding wb at random spots
>repeat the same shit in second phase
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>>148475502
when SEGA finally remembers it exists and adds another quest for it.
oh wait they won't.
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>>148479864
lmao 2kayxddd
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>>148479683
>That guy with Persona costume and mask

Jelly
>>
Post characters You want to fuck
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>>148479923
Did the ARKS GP 2016 ones count
Either way they're gone now
>>
This games block system + EQ system is literal dog shit.

I wonder how many people have quit over it.
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>>148480220
The block system is terrible, something should be done about the people who idle during EQs.
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>>148480113
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>>148472320
can I finish the inking and lewdify it, aka remove the clothes
>>
>>148480220
>>148480339
EQ's are the one problem this game has.
Literally it's only problem.
LITERALLY
THE ONLY BAD THING ABOUT THIS GAME
IS EQS

Why do they think they're good?
Why can't japs not be pieces of shit and let them know that they're the only thing bringing this game down?
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>>148480113
Marriage = Fuck
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>>148480339
The problem is this antiquated channel/instance system itself, the idling people are just a symptom of the greater problem
>>
>>148480113
Mikan
>>
>>148480749
And they enhanced the problem with....
>PRE-SCHEDULED EQs
AND
>EXCLUSIVE (non random) PRE-SCHEDULED EQs
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I almost thought they fixed this!
>>
I hate EQs
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>>148480956
I get it every time in there. I think the grass overloads the game or something.
>>
>>148480956
>>
>>148480749
No, they're fine actually. As of EP4 there's a ton of other issues.
>>
>>148481352
>No, they're fine actually
Stockholm syndrome everyone.
>>
>>148481352
They are not bad, but the way SEGA is applying them right now is bad.
>>
>>148480534
Yes, but you have to put a cat on the head.
Also give her rainbow rods.
>>
>>148480749
Something does need to be done about how unbalanced the incentives are, but the system itself is great. Having the odd event now and then to break the monotony of the grind is a good thing for the game overall.
>>
>>148481328
I see the resemblance.
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>>148482006
>Pre-Scheduled events

>break the monotony of the grind

LOL
>>
Is the current es scratch worth it?
>>
>>148482120
>I want to be ass-fucked by RNG
go back to 2013
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>>148481525
Nah. Not Sega's fault your time zone doesn't match that of a Japanese game you're not supposed to be playing.
The block system is shit though.
>>
>>148481352
The problem isn't the EQ's(except yamato what the fuck is this loot pinata doing here), it's the fact that they're gating character progression, schedule only, time gated, locking collection file completion, and making all other content feel not rewarding to do because they're so massively more rewarding than anything else.

It's just that they're there for casuals to "catch up" and not "get left behind" so 30 minutes of doing an EQ gives as much rewards as some "try hard hardcore" pl aying for 10+ hours.

Which means they ruin the entire fucking game. The ONE form of casual "catch uo" content(that btw, should not exist in mmos) to cater to casuals and not make them feel "left behind" literally ruins the entire fucking game.
>>148481668
Basically yes.

EQ's need to not be more rewarding than 20 hours of playing other content. It's not ok. It's also not ok to gate character progression and collection files behind them.
>>148482006
Yeah, 100% this. The fights are fun as fuck, even yamato, is fun(still bad because no depth/optimization/ways to improve etc etc shit fight)

As I said before in this very post, they just need to not be so fucking rewarding. Fuck off with the casual babying and let them have to actually earn things so that the people who DO want to commit and play a lot don't feel like they're wasting their time actually logging in and playing the game when EQ's aren't happening.

Fuck.
>>
>>148482320
You don't understand, they "break" the "monotony of grind" with a new scheduled monotony of grind over time.
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>>148482467
>>148482006

To continue:

Trying to "slow down hardcores" and make everyone on an "even progression field" by gating shit behind mega casual time gates is the worst possible direction you can take your game.

It's what they did in FF14 and that games a fucking shit show of character progression.

People should be able to progress as fast and slow as they want, holding back people who play more just so casuals don't get left behind makes the game feel horrible.
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>>148482419
No, my schedule perfectly aligns with this because of work hours. It's still a fucking chore to have to log in at a scheduled hour.
>>
>>148482467
>that btw, should not exist in mmos
Great, so after one year no new players can even get into the game anymore because they'll be hopelessly behind anyone who played from the start?
>>
>>148475294
expect most of melee and summoner sitting on turret all the time shooting magatsu in VH
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>>148482770
Yes. And I will explain why:

Joining a game 8 years into it and having 8 years of content is better than joining a game 8 years into it and having 1-2 months of content.

I know from personal experience, as I joined FFXI and had literally years and years of content to plow through.

Now I try a new modern MMO and I have less than 2 months of content to do.

Casual pandering is bad.
>>
>>148482940
>Joining a game 8 years into it and having 8 years of content
Have fun doing 8 years of content alone.
>>
>>148482940

>FFXI

This isn't the stone-age anymore Grandpa, a lot of people who play video games have lives these days. They're not going to play through years of outdated content to catch up. Previous MMOs have tried this archaic system and are on life support now or shut down.
>>
>>148482881
I got in a 14 minute magatsu run on XH earlier with our only wb sitting on the turret for almost the whole fight and some fo spamming namegid of all things. I fucking love people.
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>>148482731
>slow down hardcore progression
>literally nothing has BTFO Austere or Saiki
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>>148483232
>>148483206

Go play WOW and enjoy being "caught up" to everyone in less than a week then having 0 form of content in a 10 year old game.

Tell me how good design that is.
>>
>>148483407
There should be a healthy middle ground, obviously. Don't skip past everything, but also don't make it impossible for new players to realistically get to the same level as veterans within a few months.
>>
>>148483407
Slogging through all the ancient shit isn't good design either

Neither is good, they're both bad
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>>148483407
better being caught up than eternally struggling to catch up to people and quitting your job to poopsock the game
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>>148483597
Someone who has played longer than you SHOULD be superior to you, and you shouldn't be able to "catch up" to them in the first place.
>>
>>148483407
I would rather have a game to play that's alive than a game that's having a server shut down because of everyone who quit over trying to catch up with years of content.
>>
>>148483597
>>148483875
literal cancer killing MMOs
>>
>>148483875
Literally not how it works
>>148483730
Exactly.
>>148483503
>>148483206
I've played both types of games and no catch up mechanics with years of content kept my interest for nearly a yeat while catch up games barely last a month. I know which is better.
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>>148484065
Agreed.
"I want the same gear and rewards without putting in effort"

Ruined MMOs for a decade now catering to these people.
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>>148483730
muh online reputation and loot superiority . sounds like someone hasn't had job in the real world where they've taken over a higher up's position in a few months.
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>>148483730
>and you shouldn't be able to "catch up" to them in the first place.
How does anyone new accomplish anything in a game like this

That's like saying only people who played the closed beta should be allowed to hit level 75, new players are stuck with a level 70 cap
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Have fun trying to find groups for anything when your entire playerbase is scattered across 8 years' worth of content
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>>148484328
>That's like saying only people who played the closed beta should be allowed to hit level 75, new players are stuck with a level 70 cap
I'd actually be very okay with that.
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>>148480749
>>148482467
>>148482731

EQS HAVE BEEN IN THIS GAME SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING

LITERALLY DAY ONE

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD EQ AND SHIT EQ

YOU KNEW WELL WHAT AND WHERE YOU WERE GETTING INTO, AND YOU LITERALLY ACCEPTED

ITS ONLY NOW YOU DECIDED YOU DONT LIKE THEM???
AFTER ALL THESE FUCKING YEARS??????

WAIT NO, MAYBE YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE TURBO FAGS THAT JUST STARTED PLAYING LAST MONTH??
AND NOW COME HERE WITH SOME GROUNDBREAKING REVOLUTIONARY IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE THE GAME YOU'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR 30 WHOLE FUCKING DAYS
>BLOBLOO EQ ARE BAD WB IS UNBALANCED MELEE NEED 10% MORE DEEPS AND FO NEED 10% LESS DEEPS ACCORDING TO MY IMAGINARY META :((((((((((( BAD DESIGN GAME

IF YOU DON'T LIKE EQ OR THIS GAME BEAT IT ALREADY CHUMP
GAME IS FUCKING DEAD ALREADY NOT LIKE ONE LESS IRRELEVANT FAGGOT WILL BE ANY NOTICEABLE
RATHER THIS GAME BE DEAD THAN FULL OF POMPOUS GAMEDEV WANNABE RETARDS
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>>148484328
You don't, the game dies before launch.
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>>148484506
>RATHER THIS GAME BE DEAD
At the rate the game's going you'll have your wish before their (10 year plan LOL) can finish.
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>>148484506
>THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD EQ AND SHIT EQ
Well, at the beginning, they were all equally pretty shit
I mean come on now, Urban Recovery? Subdue Fang Banther?
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>>148484506
There are some valid criticisms in there

But like, they go around and propose this equally flawed solution like it's perfect and will fix everything forever, it's pretty naive
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>>148485626
>>148484506
EQ's being all the content we get for months at a time, being scheduled, being random, being time gated, or being the only character progression have been the only reasons I've quit PSo2 multiple times.
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>>148486340
>Not finally quitting it for good and just shitposting here to trigger people.

Come on, get with the times.
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>>148485276
They were good before AQs were added. Bursts happen somewhat frequently in those EQs and bursts were really hard to come by since the only place where you could really burst were Free Fields. They definitely are shit if you compare them to current EQs but it's not a fair comparison because they were good at some point in time.

If you want an EQ that was always shit, the Harukotan one is what you want.
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>>148486340
Three new fields and two "raid" EQs a year
Revive seasonal EQs when appropriate
Random shit and events between

It's like clockwork, I don't know why you'd expect anything different
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>>148486593
Shironia doesn't have a SHAQ or free XH so if you needed a level 71+ wheel or gigur for something that is pretty much your only choice

Fortunately I don't think anything (maybe some revolutio files?) really requires a lv. 71 thing like that right now
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>5 Goddamn Loser and Spiderbitch combos in a row

I'm really starting to hate the LQ.
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>>148486848
RNG is annoying for things like these
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lmao dead game
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>>148487143
The whole game is annoying for things like these.
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>>148488430
Yamato files are pretty straightforward
Everything else has a thing with one random enemy that never wants to spawn
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why the fuck does act the soul only transfer at 50%
fucking bullshit
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>>148488952
Isn't it 80% if you use the combination method?
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>>148486629
ep3 added ultimate and challenge modes
ep2 added AQ's and XQ's
all 4 of these things are great
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>>148489060
Which method works with that particular soul?
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>>148489093
AQ and XQ were ep1
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>>148489093
AQs and XQs were episode 1
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What risk level for level80 enemies in SHAQ's?
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>>148490134
http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php?アドバンスクエスト
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what are some problems pso2 has? from major issues to nitpicks.
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>>148489132
The usual vol/quartz or some other old soul+tohoh soul. I thought that's how people normally do it?
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>>148490701
Oh, I meant when you already have a "the Soul" finished, and you try to carry it over while upslotting, it's only 50%.
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>>148490701
oh, the act/til/magi souls have a 50% penalty regardless

He was probably trying to use a soul receptor
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>>148491175
...
I can't /la disgust hard enough
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>>148450953
just wanna see if more people could vote
Also I forgot to add rifle so I'll do that next before anything on the poll.
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>>148491026
>>148490972
Ah sorry, didn't know you meant with the finished soul already on the item. Yeah it sucks ass to upslot that one, I ended up switching to app soul after making the mistake of getting act the soul at 4s
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>>148491669
Shh. Rappy is sleeping.
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What are the first 13* bow and katana I should aim for?
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>>148491175
do me next
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>>148491175
Do >>148407274
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>>148492792
Aura Bow and Ray Katana are good options.

Katana is mainly mobbing, and Bow is mainly bossing.
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>>148484065
>>148484178
No, you fucking autists. Do you want new players to be forced to leech in YOUR party just because they joined later and haven't yet had time to slog through the old shit?
Do you want endgame content to be fucking dead because of old players quitting for whatever reason and new ones still trying to get there with most of them quitting midway?

Viable gear should be available to as many people as possible as long as it's relevant. Keyword is viable. Ultimate stuff that requires a fuckton of stones from everywhere (Austere) which is only available if you've been here for a while is fine.
By staying longer you also naturally have more cubes, risk reducers, affix fodder, title bonuses, seasonal shit, things to sell etc. New players won't get this with any of the catch up mechanics.
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>>148493053
I'm aware on the latter.
Though how people actually land banikaze properly is beyond me. Am I missing something?

Also, when can I start working on Ray? Requiring stuff like Level 71+ PD seems a little intimidating, and I'm not sure what sort of gear I should have before tackling that sort of content. Not to mention I'm not sure if I can actually manage to repeatedly complete the sheet for grinding material before it's gone.
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>>148493234
you're a fucking idiot and why why the MMO genre is shit

keep deluding yourself into thinking catch up mechanics and content skipping is good.
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>>148493332
Actually, just about everything for this weapon seems really difficult to farm. TD3, TD4 and PD.
Also, is there even an aura bow? I can only find the AR and TMG for R-Atk Aura weapons.
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>>148493750
>my online video game ideas would like TOTALLY SAVE the mmo genre!
lol ok kid
don't drop from school for now
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>>148493750
No, you're just fucking retarded and have no arguments. It insults you that your autistic grind in shitty online games isn't rewarded enough so you can't feel superior to anyone neither in your pathetic life nor in video games.
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>>148493332
>>148494224
It asks for 66+ for TD3 and TD4 and 71+ for PD. That should be SH, right? What sort of gear would I want to have for that? Excuse my cluelessness.
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>>148494521
The mining base quests are just the recommended quests for those items, you can go elsewhere if you'd like, but for 66+ enemies that means Super Hard Advance Quests for the most part
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>>148494768
Or Stage 51+ XQ. Don't forget to pop RDR so the bar actually increases enough to care about.
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>>148494768
>>148494920
Ooh, fair enough, that's a lot better then.
Can't get around SH PD though. What kind of gear should I be at before attempting that?
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>>148494407
>I should have the same gear as someone who puts in more effort than me
Ruined my hobby.
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>>148495131
>Ruined my hobby.
Fun fact: more than half the people I personally know who bitch incessantly about how "MMO are dead" or how "MMO used to be better back then" are usually dolts whose first experience with the genre was WotLK or some shit around that era, and only heard about the whole "greatest MMO features of old" from more experienced MMO players, they never got to experience first hand.
Not pointing fingers or anything, just felt like commenting out.

As the other guy commented, elder and/or dedicated players can grind for Austere, current best gear, way easier than someone starting up would.
Someone starting up or not as dedicated can work towards Ray or some other "lower" tier shit and still be useful, and will most likely do so.
I think it's fair.
I think you're just complaining for the sake of it at this point.
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>>148494407
You're probably arguing with people who poopchair the game 24/7. There's no use.
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>>148495131
>I should have the same gear as someone who puts in more effort than me
That has never actually been true here

We've even already covered this, someone else already mentioned Austeres earlier
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>>148495131
Still not a single worthwhile argument. I've already explained everything but you either refuse to understand or just too stupid to.

My hobby. I'm not a chad either. Haven't left home for a few weeks or so. My life is also pathetic alright, but at least I don't try to unreasonably compensate for it.
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>>148496797
nice mpa oh
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Boat Boat
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>>148496797
nice mpa OH...
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>>148496797
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HELP
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>>148496881
>>148496853
Kisama
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>>148495261
How would a totally new player get a Ray weapon? They'd still need the gear to actually survive SH Profound Darkness and pull their weight in SHAQs.
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>>148496797
nice oh, mpa
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don't forget yer fuckin' vraolet
I wanted these for looks too but looks like I fucked myself out of a sub +35 shortcut
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>>148495865
>>148495717
>>148495386
>>148495261
Yep, WOW's current design where you have so many catch up mechanics you're actually out of content in less than 2 weeks as a brand new player then have to wait a year and a half for a new expansion to have more content is good design.

The very best, the best there ever was.

So much better than having content to do. I like my MMO's completely devoid of content :)
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>>148496992
These are the people AIS was made for.
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>>148496923
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>>148497052
Vraolets really aren't worth it anymore
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>>148496992
>+15 invade
>those units
>br/fi
i feel sorry for you
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>>148497135
Can I get a closer picture of your character
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>>148497117
Simply epic, mate. Stay retarded.
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>>148497135
Nice Nu-13 in the back
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>>148497052
I'll stuff a Vraolet into that Fembot
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>>148497332
kill yourself you fucking retard
none of you have any fucking arguments
you're just casual fucks aka the gutter trash who destroyed the entire mmo genre whining WAAAH THIS PERSON WHO PLAYS MROE HAS MRE LOOT THAN ME WAAAH I WAND THE SAME LOOT
guess what, that now happened, and the genre is fucking dead and shit
good job fucktard

Do you complain about getting less money when someone works 3x the hours you do too you entitled fuck?

"simply epic mate "
xd12!!1111XD
yeah bro, you're so smart :^)
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Time to unteck this BOAT-load of rares
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unlocking quests is boring

meow
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Skill Rings for Br/Hu?
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>>148497149
Not for NT 13* I guess. It saves a little time before they become usable at 60 ele though.
>>148497398
Who brings a vraolet to a power creep fight?
At least an emperor axeon
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>>148497510
nice mpa redrum
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>>148497117
I'm sure that's terrible for WoW and everything, but it still doesn't apply to PSO2.

All these shiny new 13* lately are basically the equivalent of 11* weapons from two years ago. It's welfare gear.
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How do I make Grandma my waifu?
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>>148497006
Friends.
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>>148497661
That was actually a b20 pug.
>>148497717
Prune juice
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>>148497684
I haven't talked about PSO2 once.
However, 13 stars are this games catch up mechanic and they are actually ruining the game.
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>>148496992
God damn. Azure Pirates are even worse than nightcucks, honestly.

>mfw I see a nightcuck in my Yamato pug
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>>148497636
Eh.
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>>148497742
What if you don't have anyone to carry you?
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>>148497614
But it won't fit into her
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>>148497786
13 stars ruined the game a year and a half ago. Flooding the game with new ones now is probably the only way they could have salvaged the shitty situation that they put themselves in.
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>>148497495
>ignores actual arguments
>keep spouting meaningless shit
>when called out, starts shitposting
>complains when shitposted back and spergs out, still without any actual arguments
Kill yourself.
>destroyed the entire mmo
WoW has always been complete trash.
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>>148498054
No they didn't. 12* were still worth using because Ultimate was relevant, certain 12* with Ult Buster (and even crafted 11* in the right setup) outdamaged 13*. Ares were fucking rare too much less two for one weapon of your class so it wasn't as big of a deal if you didn't have it.
Game was ruined when 13* were the only relevant thing thanks to main class boost killing many class combo choices and being incredibly easy to get.
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>>148498445
That class boost stuff sounds dumb, why did they put it in?
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>>148498054
What's wrong with 13 stars?
The only problem I have with them is old ones not being updated to NT and new ones locked behind EQ's.
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>>148493053
What should I be using until I can get Aura&Ray?
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>>148498445
>12* were still worth using because Ultimate was relevant, and certain 12* with Ult Buster (and even crafted 11* in the right setup) outdamaged 13*. Ares were fucking rare too much less two for one weapon of your class so it wasn't as big of a deal if you didn't have it.
Where were you when the player base starting skipping XH EQs after they capped because Anga was a thing
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>>148498521
Because having to main Fi for every melee weapon to be relevant was also dumb.
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What is that status effect that Odin inflicts where your character turns purple, and there's a little spark?
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>>148497117
>>148497495
I don't think I can follow that well the point you're trying to make anymore, the fact that you switched over to memespeak doesn't make things easier, but I'll try anyways.

>WAAAH THIS PERSON WHO PLAYS MROE HAS MRE LOOT THAN ME WAAAH I WAND THE SAME LOOT
You LITERALLY get better, no, THE BEST gear if you work for it: Austere.
Can't/don't want to? there's revolution, ray, and a myriad of alternatives around. Nowhere as good, but still competent enough so these people aren't that behind of the curve, and can still be used as a stepping stone.
Please explain in detail what's so bad about this, and how it's the same as the WoW example you mentioned.
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Are secondary ingredients like Opals/Emeralds untradable?

How would I go about getting them?
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>>148498684
Was it limit break's fault?
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>>148498521
Because they hate variety. No really, no fucking idea. Main class skills were a thing before this so there was already reason to main the class of the weapon, now it's the only choice.
Also crafting weapons is super obsolete now, it isn't even at 12* tier.
>>148498673
Playing the EQs because there were still tons of mpas. Not sure what you're even on about.
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>>148498445
I remember that time. I believe they had just released "EQ-specific 12*s", and then Ultimate shortly after, which killed 12*s that weren't Psycho Wand.
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>>148498724
It's a dot if I'm noticing correctly.
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>>148498673
>skipping eq's
god forbid the game doesn't revolve around something we can't do anytime we want
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>>148498684
All they had to do was make limit break give a smaller % on non FI weapons. TAJA PP save already does that.
But no, everyone has to pay. RA/BR? Not a thing. HU/BR or HU/BO? Nope. Get fucked everyone.
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>>148498521
Because there was literally no reason to play BR/HU or BO/HU when FI/BR and FI/BO existed.

>>148498627
Red weapons work well if you have nothing else.

>>148498789
>No really, no fucking idea
Then why are you talking if you don't know?

>>148498757
Yes. It's not a problem since the 10% damage change, but it did put an end to certain class combinations. I'd prefer actually being able to use main classes than have nothing but FI mains.
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>>148498601
Instead of people doing quests normally, people would set up MPAs on seasonal EQs or Ultimate, just running around and ignoring enemies looking for an Anga Fhandarge or Gal Gryphon spawn instead, after which they'd kill some enemies to get a few drops, then take down the boss, and then abandon and restart the whole process again

And then they'd also get terribly upset when someone who didn't know any better barged in and fucked up the procedure
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>>148498757
A big part of it , yes.
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>>148498873
Again, Ares were rare as fuck back then. They were THE endgame equip and it wasn't easy to get the one you needed much less 60 ele.
You could hunt it days on end and Anga could still shit down your throat for bothering. That's why hardly anybody had a 60 ele one for their class or bothered. Again, in Ult, Ult Buster multi class 11*/12* with the right class combo could outdamage Ares.
Not saying the hunt was good. But the game was fine. There were choices.
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>>148498735
All the minerals and gemstones have to be mined from their designated free fields. You don't need anything special to do it, but it can get a bit tedious.
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>>148498873
>EQ-specific 12*s
A lot of those were garbage
And they did eventually "fix" Falz 12* in a number of ways (hidden potential, Zieg)
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>>148498949
>Then why are you talking if you don't know?
Because the smart solution would have been >>148498918
You realize they also kept releasing main class skills that already made main classes a choice in a bunch of cases right? So that coupled with a well warranted nerf would have been fine. Their answer to literally one class being the cause of a slight imbalance when mained with offclass weapons? Fuck offclass weapons.
Fucking great decision SEGA, thanks.
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>>148498789
>there were still tons of mpas
They completely revised Magatsu's drop table after it launched and no one thought it was worth doing
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>>148499370
>>148498521
>>148498789
There's zero reason for subjobs to exist anymore, honestly.

They used to be something unique you could do with choices and off class weapons but now they're just stat % dmg increases.
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>>148498918
>RA/BR? Not a thing
That is totally still a thing
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>>148498949
>Red weapons work well if you have nothing else.
Nobody does CM anymore.
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>>148499509
I was still running it just fine.
I don't know what the actual fuck you're on about. I never had a hard time finding mpas and making a surplus off a single 250 booster was not a difficult task with Magatsu.
Maybe if you brought a Vraolet and were cheap as fuck it 'wasn't worth it' but I have literally never heard an argument worth salt in that regard. More like bitching from visiphone idlers.
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>>148499563
Skills are still a thing, and not just the damage multiplier ones

Massive Hunter, PP Convert, etc.
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>>148499667
Just because you didn't personally see a problem doesn't mean it wasn't there. Otherwise, they wouldn't have changed it and made it into the place for Excubes in the first place.
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About how far should you extend red weapons?
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>>148500479
>9 so they get the ~200 dex bonus
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>>148500596
How many equip requirement relaxers am I most likely going to have to blow on this?
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>>148499635
You can get them for gold 2016 weapons badges
50 for 1 is a horrid exchange rate though
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>>148500690
You can get photon boosters for gold badges?
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>>148500885
Yeah, 50 for 1.
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How is Orchestra EX in es?
I already have sphere eraser ex and kreichsjgfhdslejgt EX, being the gunslash one.
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When extending units, should you primarily raise S-Def outside of the special levels where you go for PP (R-Def)?
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>>148501835
It literally doesn't matter.
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>>148501835
The only thing that matters is that s-atk discs are cheaper than the rest. So yes, s-def all the way up to whatever ex you're stopping at.
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>>148502003
Oh, okay then.
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Huh, you can trade Elder, Loser, Magatsu, VHAQ, and Chandra stones in for gold badges too

It's 100 to 1 but it's not like I'm doing anything with these things

Not sure about trading in Chandras though, are the skull 13* any good still? Or were they ever?
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After playing the limited quest for a while today, this thing is just awful. No drops, very little EXP, few badges, healing handicap.
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>>148502960
skull talis is like the best light talis in the game
>>148503035
Yeah the LQ is just an advertisement for final fantasy 14. It's the only bad content ever added to PSO2.
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>xQualy quit pso2 for ff14
Why?
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>>148502960
Skull talis is still decent.
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>>148503035
you're in there for auras, mainly
if you even want those

and there really isn't a better source for badges right now
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>>148503035
The healing handicap is not a downside, really, it's the only part that makes it fun
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>>148503114
>>148503215
What about the others? I vaguely want the rifle out of nostalgia since I had one in the older games
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>>148502960
Elder stones can be turned into excubes. Which is more valuable, badges or cubes I wonder.
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>>148503198
>tryhard fag farmed returner 24/7 since ep1
>gets btfo by returner2 bug
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>>148503198
Literally who
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>>148503198
this game is dead
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>>148503495
Technically, all of those can except for the Chandras. Iritistas have the best exchange rate, though.

Personally I'm swimming in Excubes at the moment, although I'm not really sure if there's anything I really want or need from the badge shop either
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So, I just got my first ring and I'm trying to grind it!...but I have no clue what the kanji for t he Rings Parameters mean.

I know it raises the skill and the duration I can parry with, but I'm unsure what the options for the first bar do.

Or what the second bar is at all. I think it's the items that increase grind chance?
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>>148503978
Durgas can't be either (12* evil weapons and a rollcake only)
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>>148504017
Those rings you can also add an ATK stat, you select it there.
For tech parry, I'd pick T-ATK obviously.
It's this one: 法
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>>148503198
>xQualy
RIP Ship4 Legend
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>>148504017
Yeah, support items for success rate. Ring grinding bottoms out at 70%, 30% boosters can guarantee it the entire way if you can spare the Excubes

It's can be annoying losing materials with nothing to show for it later on the higher grinds
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>>148504272
Intakes are gross
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>>148504272
I remember seeing something like that before, but I couldn't tell you the name of it off-hand.
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I love Neptune
But I hate the prices
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>>148504627
It probably costs more now than what it was then
Probably still ludicrously expensive back then anyway but I guess you could have scratched if you were desperate
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>>148504789
I have no hope until a revival scratch
Doesnt help that half of redcafe has it
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>>148504997
Well, other than Taiga, who else has the full PH outfit?
>>
Everything about PSO2's class system is in need of a remake.
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>>148504997
who all in cafe has it?
>>
>>148504997
The only time they revive anything like this is if they decide to do another collab, and the chance of that is slim. Hell, the only reason this one happened in the first place was probably because of the Sega Hard Girls tie-in.
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>>148504386
>>148504192
Thank you! I got it first try, now I'm only slightly poor.
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>>148504789
>It probably costs more now than what it was then
as someone who was watching it, it's the same
>>148504997
>I have no hope until a revival scratch
revival's don't do shit for collabs. it would have to be another whole collab, which i just dont see happening
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Matoi!
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lmao dead game
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>>148506941
This game is such shit.
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>>148505934
I want to make a porno with Matoi.
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>>148506941
>>148507001
You should just let the thread actually die if you honestly believe these things
>>
I wish this game had catch up mechanics and let me skip instantly to 13 stars and level 75 so I would only have 1 week of content to do, just like WOW!
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>>148507384
>revo collect files
>sega giving out fuckloads of exp tickets and boosters
hello?
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>>148507384
But it does!
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>>148505139
Care to explain why, anon?
Nothing at all wrong with classes now. They were a disaster in EP2 but now they're well made.
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>UNIRONICALLY doing despair as HU main "for fun"
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>>148507659
Nothing is fun in despair because AIS ruin it.
>>
>>148507510
>>148507578
It's accelerated compared to what it was before, but it's still not really "instant"
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>>148507810
its pretty fucking fast anon
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TD3 - TD4, no AIS, fun or nah?
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>>148507714
TD in general isn't fun.
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>>148507979
AIS are well designed for TD4.
They're a disaster in TD3.
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>>148507979
They're designed with them in mind in the first place, you can't really just rip them out and expect it to still work

Maybe they could remove the one at the beginning that's basically free, I guess? Make you earn it?

Its role in the quest really isn't too far off from what the photon particle turrets were for base 1 and 2 back in the day, really, and back then getting enough points for those was essential.
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>>148508092
but despairs map is fucking huge, demise is small and only 3 towers
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>>148508163
I've literally never used photon cannons(no pylons to place them anyways) in TD1 or 2. Waste of minerals.
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>>148508163
>you can't really just rip them out and expect it to still work
> isn't too far off from what the photon particle turrets were for base 1 and 2 back in the day, really, and back then getting enough points for those was essential.
so you agree you don't need AIS then.
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>>148508291
Did you play them in 2013 and 2014 when SH was the highest difficulty?

If you didn't have them for the last wave you probably lost, at least in a pub.
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How many orbit weapon stones do I get per TD4?
how many for a weapon?
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Reminder NEEK BTFO
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29071206
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>>148508439
>2013 and 2014 when SH was the highest difficulty
oh you mean when ilmegid and shunka were fucking gods? yeah you don't really need them
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>>148508448
30 Apprentice only stones
60 TD stones

You get TD stones based on your rank, 3 for S, 2 for A in everything except for TD1, which gets you 2 for S

Appentice stones are completely random when it comes to how many drop.

You can also get them from Xie at a 20 badge to 1 stone rate
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>>148508375
You could probably get away with timing out against Bibras Yuga in Despair, but good luck with Apprentice.
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>>148508702
>good luck with Apprentice.
BrGu can do it, hell even just pure player DPS can do enough to kill within 2-3 burns
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>>148508702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70OTxuV6czU
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>>148508834
>>148508881
>premades with extremely specialized parties
Please tell me you aren't serious
>>
>>148508881
i want to suck matts cock
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>>148508630
>>148508448
>Appentice stones are completely random when it comes to how many drop.
It's like three max per run with a booster isn't it
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>>148509001
Wouldn't that be exactly what you are doing if you are not bringing AIS? Unless you seriously expect pugs to be able to do it.
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>>148509125
I've had 5 torana stone drops in one run several times before. But they were all B-ranks (first week pubs, wew). S-rank never dropped more than 3.
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>>148509001
You underestimate the players power on foot, if you can kill magatsu in 1-2minute you can kill gia the same way too
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>>148509216
>Unless you seriously expect pugs to be able to do it.
Pugs have to at least have a chance at succeeding, that's kind of the point here

I mean, yes, you can take that idea too far (see Yamato) but you it to be reasonable

Maybe you can throw in a "nightmare" mode for the minmaxers or something, I don't know
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AIS and 13* ruined the games fun and challenge
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NEW THREAD WHERE
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>>148510567
Hopefully never
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>>148510440
They are not the problem
They are just symptoms of the larger problem
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The dead live

>>148511071
>>148511071
>>148511071
>>148511071
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