Ace Combat General #239 - /aceg/

>>148341148
>aaaand I fucked the [Embed]s

F-35 a shit plane.

4th for F-4, assuring local air supremacy over Sukhois.

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>>148341492
The F-35 could kick your planefu's ass though

>>148341984
My planefu is the F-22.

>F-35 fags this delusional.

>>148341597
8th for WW1/early WW2 soviet training methods.

>>148342636
That exercise happened in 2010.

>>148342161
Tbh until the f-22 gets the level of sensor fusion that the f-35 has the f-35 still wins, even moreso outside 1v1

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Seeing as I'm too retarded to read the thread I'll just repeat again

Any of you know how to remove excess glue spillage?

Any of you working on any model?

>>148343391
Use fine grit sandpaper to remove excess glue.

>>148343319
Kinematic performance aside, the F-35 is significantly less stealthy than the F-22, and both sides have LPI radars.

This means that if both sides use their radar, the F-22 will be able to target and attack the F-35 first.

Reminder that the F-22 production was halted in part because of the Growler.

>>148343538
Would 150 grit be good enough?

>>148346117
Try it. As long as you're not removing model detail it should be fine.

The existence of infinity puts me off the entire series after 6 to be honest.

I still like AHL but infinity leaves a horrible taste in my mouth.

>>148344440
Sure, maybe in a 1v1. But in a realistic environment, the ability to synthesize readings from multiple radars on different craft is a pretty big edge

>>148347737
That's just moving the goalposts.

>>148347106
>but infinity leaves a horrible taste in my mouth.
Why or in what sense? Just the jew system?

>>148349140
Jew fuel + Muh Strangereal + Being generally tolerated

yes, it's probably autism. Something about shoehorning Strangereal setpieces into real life bothers me. It makes it feel even more like a Jewish cashgrab.

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Since my PS3 is out of commission right now, I'd like to ask for help from one of you kind anons. Long story short, I'm making a tool for Infinity, and I need help making sure I have all the gifs for the Sp.Weapons. I'll be posting the ones I have, the file name telling what weapon they correspond to. If I'm missing any, or one of them applies to multiple weapons, please tell me.

>>148349271
I disagree, but your reasons are understandable. Although the real life setting of Joint Assault was fine, Assault Horizon really sullied it. I don't mind the way they are doing it, though, since it lets them vary and change some things to the location. e.g. Avalon Dam having 2 tunnels instead of 1, Stonehenge being much more involved, the AssHorizon locations having much more color. Besides, with the Ulysses meteor strike and gameplay, this might as well be Strangereal in everything but name, shape, and history pre-1994.

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>>148351082

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>>148351578

>>148349271
I can speak to the general tolerance, at least in /aceg/, as the result of a lack of viable alternatives
6 has godawful netcode, AH's servers are all offline, not like it was worth much to begin with, and JA is a portable title with all that entails

>>148343187
And?

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>>148351823

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>>148352120
How is JA with PPSSPP?
>>148352784

To be completely honest I don't miss Strangereal except for the geographic features. Every game that was set in in save for AC3 had either no story or generally something "so bad it's actually really awful" based on IRL events twisted to make them incredibly onesided.

>>148353026
You and yourself buddy

>>148353260
Come again?

>>148353026
I dunno, I feel like that - intentionally or not - helps the thing.

Like you can look at the Belkan war as "oh no, Belka are being so mean" but if you actually look into some of the preceding events instead of taking the most surface-level approach, it's not like Osea isn't being a total bastard too. Many of the surrounding areas were asking for it. Ustio is one of the few that's actually just an innocent area seeking self-determination.

(AND RATIO: GIVE BACK THAT USTIO CLAY YOU THIEVING SMELLY GYPSIES)

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>>148353414
One thing I really appreciated from Zero was the fact that there was the possibility of incapacitating pilots without downing them. That split moment of hesitation you get when a plane's target turns yellow is amazing. It helps make you feel like you're fighting against people who happen to be enemies in this situation instead of just "The Big, Bad, Evil Guy."

AC04 would have had the same villainization issue AC5 had with the Belkan Grey Men had it not been for details like learning about Yellow Squadron, the hesitating pilot in Escort, and seeing the state Farbanti was left in after the Ulysses hit.
>>148352954

>>148354016
I forget, was 5 the rushed one?

5 seems to have a lot of the building blocks for a sad story, but sort of cop out towards the end by making Belkans unambiguously evil (instead of say, just wanting back South Belka.) so that you can feel bad about killing Yuktobanians.

>>148353414
>taking the most surface-level approach
Yeah, that's the thing, the games give you little info other than the Soviet Union tier propaganda that is shoved down your mouths. If you want to see the "real" story you have to google translate japanese shit, some of which IIRC doesn't even exist anymore.

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>>148354142
I don't know about rushed since it came out little over 4 years after 04, but yeah, the Gray Men really needed more humanization. Hamilton had ever so slight characterization, with genuine rage and resentment behind his words in ACES, but that needed justification.
>>148354465
I haven't read much outside material besides Pixy working for ISAF, but I think the Zero does a pretty good job of justifying all sides and giving them all some fault. The only thing 04 would've had to mention was Erusea being forced to deal with all these incoming refugees after Ulysses hit and it would've been perfect.
>>148354016

>>148354967
Doesn't 4 also leave it ambiguous that Erusea was fascist before the crisis?

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>>148355134
The people of San Salvacion, including the narrator and maybe some of your fellow pilots, called them Fascists, but I don't think that's really delved into. I don't think it's mentioned in any briefing, is it? Speaking of, is the guy who gives the briefings given a name, title, or even a position?
>>148354967

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>>148355685

Plane list for the RPG now includes:

MiG-21M, MiG-21 Bison, Mirage IIIC, Mirage 3NG, Mirage F1, Mirage F1CT, Mirage 2000C, Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2, Mirage 2000D, Nesher, Kfir C.2, Kfir C.7, F-105D, F-105G, F-5A, F-5E, F-20, Su-17M, Su-17UM4, F-8E, XF8U-3, F-4C, EF-4C, F-4E, F-4G, F-4X, Super Phantom, AJ-37, AJS-37, JA-37D, J-10A, J-10B, F-16A Block 15, F-16C Block 50, F-16XL, F-16F Block 60, MiG-29S, MiG-29M, MiG-35D, F/A-18A, F/A-18C, F/A-18D, A-10A, A-10C, Su-25, Su-25ST, Su-25SM, A-6E, EA-6B ADVCAP, MiG-23M, MiG-23MLD, MiG-23-98, MiG-27, Su-24, Su-24M2, Tornado IDS, Tornado ADV F2, Tornado ADV F3, MiG-25, MiG-25P, MiG-25PDSL(M), MiG-25BM, F-14A, F-14D, ST-21, ASF-14, F-15A, F-15C, F-15 STOL/MTD, F-15E, F-15SA, F-15SE, MiG-31M, F/A-18F, EA-18G, Su-27S, Su-27SM2, Su-37, Su-35, Su-34, Su-47, PAK-FA, SAAB Gripen, Rafale C, Eurofighter Typhoon, F-35A, F-35B, F-35C, YF-23, F-22.

Anything I'm missing?

>>148354967
>I think the Zero does a pretty good job of justifying all sides and giving them all some fault
If you don't know anything about Prussia and Germany it only makes Belka look like they deserve everything they get.

>>148356856
Props

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If you compare them, absolutely. However, I'm talking about the game's own merits.
>>148356970

>>148357449
And so am I. Osea and Yuktobania come off as imperialistic, opportunistic shitstains only if you start drawing parallels with real life, and fill the huge gaps left by the games with real life stuff.

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>>148357594
I do remember the game making that implication during the course of the game, for example, Brett Thompson saying the treaty made after the nukes set off heavily favored OSEA, and Gault Squadron saying the negotiations were all a squabble over who gets the larger slice of pie.
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>>148357957

>>148356856
BAe Hawk

>>148357594
Even with just the in-game data, Osea comes across as exploitative.

I forget if the game explicitly uses the words "taking advantage of the situation" but it definitely shows territory ceded to Osea.

Yuktobania seems less imperialist in all this, being too far away to gain territory, and more of a "Why are you even here except to build up WW2 parallels?"

>>148356856
Amx

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>>148358742
>Yuktobania: Why are you even here?
Was there even a Yuktobanian who joined A World With No Boundaries?
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>>148359189
I believe there was at least one. I think you shoot them down over Avalon.

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>>148359189
I need to look that up then.
>>148359189

>>148361291
fuck off desu

i like the .gifs

>>148361559
Says the person who has difficulty ignoring posts he dislikes, which keep the thread bumped :^)

>>148361635
xD

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>>148359872
whoops. meant to reply to this guy.
>>148359439
>>148361291
just for you :^)

>>148361559
>posts filthy Frank
>whines about autism
ok

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>>148362902

>>148358742
That is if you listen to the Belkans, which ACZ threats as sore losers that would say anything for making themselves look better, and AC5 threats as just pure psychopaths.

>>148365782
I'm talking about the OBC documentary, actually.
Their graphics show Belka cede territory before the war, because Osea is taking advantage of internal troubles (We can assume good faith on the part of Ustio, etc, as self-determination, but Osea's just being greedy unless those lands are culturally/ethnically Osean anyway.)

Post-war this is rubbed in even more if North Osea is governed from Oured officially, instead of just being a puppet state. (The political status of North Osea still confuses me, whether it was annexed, made a semi-autonomous region of Osea, or just cut off from Belka as a new state.)

>>148366049
Judging by the Osean flag, North Osea became a state of Osea proper

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>>148363393
Aaaaand here's the last one I have. Again, if I'm missing any, please inform me which ones.

>>148366049
>I'm talking about the OBC documentary, actually.
Well now I have an excuse for replaying both AC5 and ACZ. But still, I'm really strongly convinced that if you didn't know what the Belkan war was based the game would come off as extremely onesided 'murikan stand in wanking.


Also I'm pretty sure they got annexed and got ruled with an iron fist.

>>148366301
While we're here, would you mind uploading them into our mega?
For some reason SPW short animations feel soothing.

>>148366906
Yeah sure, although I'm pretty sure I'm missing quite a few, specifically the ones like the ESM, the ones from special planes like the ADMM, EML, MSTM, stuff like that.

>>148366350
*what the Belkan war was based on
That said all this talk about AC's plot makes me really sad that we will never get a new game that goes back to the arcade roots.

Any of you read the salvation war?
It opens up with a pretty sweet engagement between super hornets and literal demons

>>148369495
By Stuart Slade? Wasn't that the cringiest powerfantasy fapfiction of all time?

>>148369643
Shut up demon sympathizer

>>148361291
Fuck off

Fuck off twice

>>148369692
Naw, I just found it fanfiction tier of badly written and cringe worthy.
Shit, even GATE is better.

>>148369782
Trip up thunder

>>148361291
>meme frank

Die.

>>148369782
GATE was worse because it was NIPPONSTRONK fanwank.

Salvacion war is more H:FY.

>>148370013
Come on, the F4 scenes were gold

>>148370080
So that makes Salvation War better because it's EVERYONE STRONK fanwank?
GATE at least had decent character interaction and development.

>>148370250
Quit being a weeb

>>148370406
But I'm not. A weeaboo thinks EVERYTHING from Japan is superior.
I know from experience that their cars are shit.

>>148370250
GATE at least had decent character interaction and development.

I can't directly refute you, since I didn't watch the anime, but I am high skeptical of that claim.

Could you perhaps show some examples or otherwise demonstrate that "GATE at least had decent character interaction and development." While the Salvation War series did not?

>>148370558
I didn't watch the anime, just read the comics.
I mean, it's nothing too fancy or great, no feat of literature art or such shit, but it's there whereas Salvation War kinda just was there.

>>148370737
>comics

>>148370080
salvation war on the other hand is MERIKASTRONK fanwank.

>Metal Gear General is over
what

>>148371041
Have you ever been there recently?

>>148371134
No, can I get a sector briefing?

>>148371237
It became utter shit. This place is heaven by comparison. Hell even the worst general that you can think of that isn't part the living cancers (eg, /ksg/) was better than /mgg/.

>>148371427
Was it nuked off /vg/ or did they all agree on pulling the plug?

>>148371591
That I don't know, I left weeks if not months ago. But if you really hate yourself you're free to look it up on Fireden, assuming it didn't die again.

>>148370910
It seems like you never even read the material. It's explicitly a multinational effort with tons of screen time by characters who aren't american.

>>148370853
You prefer picture books instead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOHFYqFIt8k
Posting this cuz I just found it. Comfy listening to this while eating.

>>148374517
That ain't stance

>>148373205
>Grun 1
Fucking can't understand shit he says, blimey.

>>148375236
REPOHT

>>148375234
Do you really wanna fight it though?

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>part of the series, not 3rd party
>limited time only
y tho
I seriously hope all these eventually come to either the goystore or belkanshop. Better yet, just put the challenges under the normal section permanently.

>>148373205
><<What should I sortie with?>>
Forget just weapons, were going to be able to choose our partner's aircraft?

>>148377719
Were we*

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I remember Salvation War

God damn that was cringe-tier, but it was at least fun.
>tfw you will never crusade the cosmos to unite all races that have ever been or ever will be under a glorious empire

>>148377032
The same could be said about the collab planes and emblems but they need to have challenges in rotation to keep it from getting too stale.

>>148369495
Considered reading it until findinding the author autism about something.

I can't even remember what. Something like Book 2 going up on pirate bay, leading him to talk about how he expects a return on investment and so on. It was written in a way that put me off bothering.

>>148379042
The publisher he had lined up dropped his book because it wound up on pirate bay.

>>148379993
How does that even work?

(I'm assuming that either it was already available for free, or that someone he sent a pre-publication copy of it leaked it, but in the case of the former why is TPB beyond the pale?)

>>148380174
It was available for free, and still is I believe since the author gave up trying to publish it after that.

I can only assume as part of the print publishing deal, the author would withdraw or take down the free version once the book went to press. Once the author was no longer able to do that, the publisher decided not to invest in it.

>>148380485
>I can only assume as part of the print publishing deal, the author would withdraw or take down the free version once the book went to press.
That seems remarkably scuttlingly Jewish.

>>148380712
Why?

>>148380869
Trying to charge for something that used to be free, and removing a free option to force people towards the paid one.

Sure, it's his thing to do with as he pleases in legal terms, but that doesn't make it any less Jewish.

>>148381073
Gotta make a living, and publishers don't like it when a free alternative exists

>>148381073
How would you feel about the matter if the author wrote the book, and then sold it without ever allowing his fans to read it as it was written?

>>148381283
>Gotta make a living
This justification doesn't fly when it was free in the first place.

>>148381312
If I'm reading the question right, that would just be the standard procedure for creating a book.

That's nowhere near as Jewish as going "Okay, you can read this for free... Oh, you like it? Well then, I'm going to take it offline and if you ever want to see it again you'll open your wallet :^) "

>>148381497
So if you create something, and share it with people without charging for it, you should never be able to profit from it?

>>148381906
You're a kike if you try to lock it away again. That doesn't prevent merchandising or inserting adverts (still pretty Jewish desu.)

Direct sales of books is not the only way to profit from something you've written.

furthermore, the focus on ((profit)) speaks for itself.

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>>148379036
At this point, would that really matter? There are enough challenges for a fucking lifetime, all of them forcing you to vary your mission locations, playstyles, planes, weapons, and between Co-op and TDM.

>>148382090
Your worldview has piqued my curiosity, anon.

If you don't mind, could I inquire as to how old you are, what nationality you are, what you do for a living, and how you identify politically, if at all?

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>>148382475
Dafuq?

>>148382475
22/USA/Student*/Trump

Partially memeing when it comes to comparing profit to Jewishness in itself, but it's Jewish as fuck to want to start charging for things that used to be free. Even if he'd just made the next chapter paid, that'd be fine. Trying to take away something that was once free crosses the line into being a kike.

*Prior to College, worked part time at memedonalds.

Like I say in serious terms: There's nothing wrong with wanting to make money from your work, but don't give away a story for free then expect to take it back later. Not only is it ((Jewish)), it's stupid (as he found out when his book wound up on TPB because lol copypaste.)

>>148383072
I like the kaiser Willy copypastas better.

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Let's get this thread back on track.

What's your favourite Phantom variant?

>>148383612
The F3H.

>>148383919
That literally made no sense

>>148383612
they all suck

>>148384296
Of course they do, they're jets.

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>>148383612
The Mobius one.
>>148384497
Oh, you.

>>148384020
F3H Demon was the F-4 Phantom's predecessor.

>>148385140
>was
Is.

>>148385140
I know that
So him saying his favorite phantom type was a complete other plane
See how it doesnt make sense

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I saw the DLC list for AC6 just now for the first time...I think I want to barf right now.

>>148387536
The funny thing is the PA even removed some of the skins they used to give out for free. They made other skins free in turn.

Also, making people pay for more maps is the dumbest shit ever if you want to keep a game alive.

>>148387661
That's one of the things that baffles me. Why the fuck would you remove skins from the marketplace?! For what reason?! And what is with this Capcom-level jewery?! Why has the price for these "planes"(skins) not gone down? Why is there no $10 pack to just get everything? Why is there no "definitive" edition that comes with all DLC? By the way, how many skins does each plane get without DLC?

>>148388715
>how many skins does each plane get without DLC
3, Emmeria, Estovakia, SP.

>>148388715
In order
Artificial scarcity for more monies
Oy vey
Oy Vey
OY VEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU
Holla holla get $
3 total

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Since those canucks keep banging on about the Avrow Arrow, I decided to stat it up in the RPG on a lark, see how it compares with other planes. The results are surprising.

By comparing the weighted airframe metascore, (Ignoring avionics using my own janky and probably unrealistic formula), in the RPG at least, the Avrow Arrow would be equal or superior to the following planes:

Avrow Arrow - 60

F-35B - 60
Tornado ADV F2 - 59
Su-24M2 - 57
MiG-27 - 53
MiG-23-98 - 60
MiG-23MLD-57
MiG-23M - 54
EA-6B - 52
A-6E - 48
Su-25SM - 57
Su-25T - 55
Su-25 - 53
F/A-18D - 60
F/A-18C - 59
F/A-18A - 58
F-16C Block 50 - 58
F-16A Block 15 - 55
JA-37D - 59
AJS-37 - 58
AJ-37 - 52
F-4E - 58
EF-4C - 55
F-4C - 54
F-8E - 56
Su-17UM4 - 60
Su-17M - 56
F-20 - 54
F-5E - 44
F-5A - 43
F-105G - 49
F-105D - 48
Nesher - 48
Mirage F1CT - 56
Mirage F1 - 52
Mirage 3NG - 56
Mirage IIIC - 47
MiG-21 Bison - 53
MiG-21M - 44

So better luck next time, canada.

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>>148389703
>>148389826
>fucking 3 skins per aircraft
>in a game with just 15 planes
>while AC5 had 4 skins per each of its 53 planes
>and ACZ had 5 skins per each of its 36 planes plus 2 of Pixy and PJ
>fucken AC3D had 6 skins skins, 2 of them custom, per each of its 28 planes
What the actual fuck happened??

>>148392040
DLC

>>148391079
>F-5E and F-5A are the worst planes
As it should be.

>>148392040
Whats up with your autism

>>148391079
How does that thing stack against the F-35 lmao
Unless it's just kinematic performance?

>>148392447
It's airframe metascore which ignores avionics.

Total weighted metascore (including avionics) puts the F-35B at 80, and the Arrow at...63.

>>148392346
Are you talking about me being mad at bamco jewery? Cuz I think that's pretty natural and reasonable.

>>148391079
I wonder what kind of retarded algorithm you use to come up with those stats.

>>148392612
Nah thats autism friend

>>148392601
How do you come up with these scores?

>>148392040
Because there is not enough space on the disks and the skin's are high res on top of the models having shittons of polygons compared to the PS2 games, also gotta have shittons of useless radio chatter nobody cares about (some of which isn't even used).

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>>148392823
>complaining about jewery is autism
I wonder who's behind this post?

>>148392795
It works for the game, real life, not so much.

>>148392849
A combination of things. top speed, dry thrust, 'Maneuverability', 'Stability', 'Defense', Range, Ceiling, Crew, Radar tech level*, Radar Range*, RWR*, Countermeasure tech and number, ECM*, Gun calibre, # of guns, and Hardpoints.

'' are abstracted stats
* are avionics stats

Basically I just needed a formula to consistently determine how much an aircraft should cost, and roughly compare aircraft. Hence this.

>>148393221
Everyone here is full aware of the jewery afoot
Your taking it to full autismo levels

>>148393425
>'' are abstracted stats

>>148393694
Yeah, take maneuverability for example.

For the game, I want a single stat for maneuverability. Makes things simple on the user end.

On the back end to arrive at a single number to compute the in game value, you need to look at several real world stats, such as:

thrust to weight ratio w/50% fuel
wing loading w/50% fuel
drag ratio
rate of climb
instantaneous turn rate @FL200 w/50% fuel
instantaneous turn radius @FL200 w/50% fuel
Sustained G @FL200 w/50% fuel
Sustained turn rate @FL200 w/50% fuel
sustained turn radius @FL200 w/50% fuel
instantaneous turn rate @ corner V w/50% fuel
instantaneous turn radius @ corner V w/50% fuel
sustained G @ cornerV w/50% fuel
sustained turn rate @ cornerV w/50% fuel
sustained turn radius @ cornerV w/50% fuel

Of course, all of these will change as you go through the flight regime, but I'm not trying to make a simulation here, just relatively accurate as compared to other aircraft.

>>148393437
I wasn't aware, which is the case right now.

>>148395062
And youve been here how long?
Fuck man your blind as fuck

>>148392447
How much have you done of AC5 so far? Gotten all planes yet?
>>148394801
Jesu cristo. And you've figured all this out for how many planes by now?

>>148395310
I was aware of the jewery in Infinity. I didn't know the jewery was THIS bad in AC6.

>>148395362
Currently there are 90 planes statted in the RPG.

The majority of them have a less detailed and more abstracted maneuverability stat, as it's difficult for me to find the necessary information for a lot of the planes to get a complete picture.

>Too much autism

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>>148397129

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Shh the thread is sleeping.

>>148397129
>Autism? In my /aceg/?? It's more likely than you think
What should/will the protags canon plane be in AC7? I personally think it's time for either the YF-23 or the F-15 Active to get a chance to shine. However, I feel it's either gonna be the F-22 (again) or something like the F-15SE or maybe even (god forbid) a Sukhoi.

>>148398904
>maybe even (god forbid) a Sukhoi.
Doesn't NEMO canonically fly a future variant?

>>148399182
That last part was sarcastic. Scarface and Rena also fly Flankers.

>>148399312
Ah.

Well. Maybe we'll see some other country's high-end shit as the choice.
Most likely going to be an F-whatever again though.

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>>148399615
Hell, I wouldn't mind some self-wankery if the ATD was made the canon plane.

>>148398228
>>148401398

>>148398904
Maybe his plane is gonna be the Advanced Super Hornet

>>148398904
After the weather superweapon creates a electromagnetic super thunderstorm that disables all the fly by wire and fancy computer stuff of modern planes, the protagonist will be forced to pull the sheets off their old F-4...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-pXlBLjb2c

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>>148402292
>this is actually a thing
Dude, having a protag use a Hornet as the canon plane would be sick. I'm not gonna lie though, that name sounds kinda retarded. Why not just the Advanced Hornet?

>>148402941
Because Super Duper Hornet was one of the alternatives and nobody will take that seriously

>>148402716
>this happens
>instead of an F-4, the protag uses a fishbed

>>148403221
<<Super Duper Hornets! Don't laugh too hard, keep your guard up!>>

Why not the Advanced Super Tomcat?

>>148403221
I non-ironically want an F/A-18 variant to be called this.

>>148403401
>not the Ultra Bombcat

>>148403636
No that was the AST-21

Attack Super Tomcat for the 21st Century

>That's what they actually called it.

>>148403790
>21st century
>it doesn't even have stealth or thrust vectoring
Still sexy as fug

>9

>>148406854
>8

>>148407969
>10

>>148409840
>again

>>148413759
>9

>was 8 but now 9 again

>>148391079
So which planes does it NOT beat?

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>>148383612
I can't tell, does the F4K have a different nose as well as a wider back to accommodate spey engines?

>>148392601
How on earth does the SU-25 beat the F-5E?

I HAVE SO FAR TO GO

/aceg/ singing blue skies when?

>>148425770
HERE COMES THE BOOM
Good morning, /aceg/

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<< Wake up. >>

>>148429640
<<You've been in a coma for 3 months. Please wake up.>>
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GLONKPzGuss

>de_ded

>F/A-18H Super Duper Hornet never

So this is how /aceg/ dies. Not with a bang but with a shitpost.

>>148423062
All naval Phantoms have shorter noses than the air force models.

>>148432818
Any particular reason why?

>>148432681
>F/A-18Z Advanced Super Duper Mega Ultra Ultimate Hornet Latte never ever

>>148433358
Most airforce models have a gun, which actually decreases radar range.

>>148433480
Speaking of airframe upgrades, how is the MiG-35? Seems like a neat plane.

>>148435587
What about the AF ones without guns? Do they not have longer noses?

>>148422286
F-22
F-35C
F-35A
Typhoon
Rafale
PAK FA
Su-47
Su-35
Su-34
Su-27SM2
Su-27
EA-18G
F/A-18F
MiG-31
F-15SE
F-15SA
F-15E
F-15 STOL/MTD
F-15C
F-15A
ASF-14*
ST-21*
F-14D
F-15A
MiG-25BM
MiG-25PDSL(M)*
MiG-25PD
MiG-25P
Tornado ADV F.3
Tornado IDS
Su-24
A-10C
A-10A
MiG-35D
MiG-29M
MiG-29S
F-16F Block 60
F-16XL
J-10B
J-10A
Super Phantom*
F-4X*
F-4G
XF8U-3
Kfir C.7
Kfir C.2
Mirage 2000D
Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2
Mirage 2000C

>>148391079
What's this RPG every now and then is mentioned?

>>148435873
Depends on what model radar is in the nose. F-4G replaces the gun with EW gear. RF-4Cs have cameras in the nose.

>>148436681
I was thinking of the early air-force versions (which spawned the nongunz meme in Vietnam.)

Did they have the same nose as USN versions, or some other excuse to lengthen them?

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>>148436757
>>148436681
>>148435873
Visual comparison

>>148436619
It's a role playing game set in the ace combat universe.

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>>148436757
>>148436681
>>148435873

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>>148436757
>>148436681
>>148435873

Weasel

If you guys are looking for information on aircraft, particular more obscure variants, my go to first look source is http://www.airvectors.net

That's where I got a lot of the info for the RPG from, and apparently where wikipedia steals a lot of its stuff.

>>148430776
Puchis never belong in /aceg/ in the first place.
They need to be strafed by a squadron of A-10s.

>9

>>148430776
>>148440141
>>148440626

>>148442991
(You) and who else, buddy?

>>148436219
>no Su-37
Why?

>>148443741
I forgot to type it.

>>148443741
If the 27 was beat by age old Phantoms, how you reckon the piece f shit 37 is going to beat anything even marginally better than the F4?

A question for people who play Infinity:
Do you guys like how the game differentiates between fighters, attackers, and multiroles through different damage multipliers between air and ground targets?

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>tfw having a dream about a new AC7 trailer and it involves shoot at fighters with a mini gun mounted on top of an aigion

>>148402941
Because 'super hornet' is already a retarded name since it's a 80% totally redesigned model that superficially looks like the old one. So an advanced model of the sh would be even more retarded to call it an advanced hornet.

If we can't post puchis then stop posting botes and Flight High School.

>>148447547
>stop posting a comic about aircraft.

>>148447547
I don't post any of those but as long as you stop your fucking autistic puchi faggotry I'm fine either war.

At least the boat/FHSfags aren't as obnoxious as you.

>>148448231
>implying there is one person posting puchis
>implying this hasn't been apart of /aceg/ culture forever
>implying we don't have Puchi Ace Combat crossover art
>implying you can stop me

You're the only one with autism if anime images on an anime imageboard triggers you so much.

>>148448547
This is a video game board.

>>148448547
One person, a few dedicated shitposters, same difference
Im@s is somewhat /aceg/, but discretion must be exercised in its use here
Most of that "art" was created by people who got triggered and needed REE material
Hide, ignore, report.jpg

RPG is still accepting people who want to join.

>>148387536
DUDE THIS IS AN ACE COMBAT THREAD
DONT POST OFF TOPIC ANIME
REPORTED

>>148449658
Would love to, but I don't have the time for it.

>it's another "sperging out over anime reaction images" episode

>>148448547
>"hurr animu images on animu board" argument
It's not so much of you being a weeb on a weeb website as it it you parading your helmet-wearing shortbus existence here. Just letting you know that everybody here hates your ass for doing what you do.

>>148448547
>Puchi Ace Combat crossover art
Go to image.google.com, enter "puchi ace combat art" in the search field, and see the results

>>148455747
/aceg/ is famous!

>>148456007
I think I'll pass

>>148456007
Warcrimes x Thunder fanart when?

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Where's facedrag when you need him?

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>>148456007

>>148458243
>dat thicc ass

>9

>>148462882
That a MiG 15, 17 and a 21 I spy?

>>148458243
Trapped outside.
Just got back, need a quick translation?

>>148466090
Says something along the lines of "MiG-25 best turn fighter of WWIII and onwards, NATO and western shitbricks literally cannot compete with our glorious THICC af brick, fuck the Blackbird.

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>>148466090
It'd be nice to know what the "Adattamento ECM" block says.

>>148466276
Not really tho
>>148466428
I'll just do a quick summary of every section in a little bit

The intruction mentions that the Foxbat-F was specifically made for the european scenario.
It was the "Wild Weasel" version for aerial suppression capable of mounting Kh58 anti-radiation missles.
The prototype's first flight was in 1976, but it took a long time for it to intruced in service.

Second paragraph is about it having fake painted grey radomes to have it look identical to the Mig-25 PD, the interceptor one.
Meanwhile the Mig-25BM lacks the head-mounted radome, translating into a sharper front with a characteristic triangular protrusion beneath it.

Third part is about Mig-25 being already safe from ground-to-air attacks due to the high-altitude flight protecting it and that the BM variant was just another layer of security added.
It still had an hard time to get into service definitely and when it did it was only after some years after the production ended.

The last part says that the Mig-25 BM recieved a longer front to house the new electronic warfare equipment and emission detection.
The antennae configuration recalls that one of the Mig-25RBK.

I'm pretty tired so I could have been kinda unclear in some parts, in any case just ask me for clarifications if you need to.

>>148468421
Thanks.

Has everyone given the fuck up on Infinity?

Not even talking about /aceg/, but the players literally disappeared after the RTDM. Didn't play for 2 days, tried to join rooms for 1h and couldn't find anything but "beginners welcome" rooms I'd be kicked before picking my fuel and 8p rooms that never got full.

Had a power outage when hosting this Monday so I'm not sure if i'm still being penalized for "quitting", but this shit is damn weird

>>148471434
Yeah, it does seem kinda quiet. I'm around 1800, but mostly see only rooms with hosts that have MR around 2400 or 1400

>>148471434
Well, I had that problem yesterday. All I could find was 3 same rooms over and over.

Speaking about RTDM, any news on next event? Because from what I saw we're up for [Back again!] shit in coop, but no info for tdm.

>10

>>148458243
Blah blah Wild Weasel Foxbat blah blah fake radome blah blah ECM equipment.

>>148474658
>The most helpful anon.

>>148471434
About fucking time it died.

>>148475768
Meh I didn't notice it got already translated until I hit the submit button.

>>148476227
It's the thought that counts.

>10

><<Up.>>

I want to play Ace Combat with a WW2 flight steering wheel.

>>148481679
What did she mean by this?

>>148481679
Nothing stops you from doing that.

>>148481679
Follow your dreams

ALTITUDE TOO LOW PULL UP

>>148471434
I gave up months ago. I feel like I accomplished everything I set out to do. Got my Weasel to level 20 and grinded my way to 40+ slots.

>>148492082
>That Phantom has since been shot down as a target drone

>>148488353
Of all the fates, that was perhaps the most brutal

>de_ded2

>>148471791
>>148471917
Servers are definitely acting up.

Tried to join a room, waited for a few seconds then host closed it. Seemed normal, but it appeared again, same mission, same players, closed again. Then joined another, we had a full room for a while then the chat noticed one of the player leaving while he was still listed as ready for sortie and kept like that for a good minute.

Feels like there's some serious ping issues happening

>>148494727
Cyka blyat rash ded

>tfw i dont know jack shit about planes

>>148402716
So forming the third aerial squad?

>10

>9

>>148492091
Same, go it to 42 slots during 6x RTDM party. Thinking about the J35J as the next project, but the Lvl 20 nick isn't that impressive.

<<RISE RUSEGRIZ>>

>>148507849
<<Later, perhaps?>>

>>148509554
If anyone's still up

Opinions on katanagatari? Last 2 eps were brutal but also great

>>148511190
The fug you talkin bout?

So Vector Thrust just updated. Good to see the guy's still going despite getting screwed.

Guess I'll reinstall it.

>>148512467
Bring back photos

>>148512209
A pretty good anime.

>>148512923
The artstyle looks like someone Pollocked an animu it's got so many colors

>>148512467
Wait, seriously?
Looks like I'll have to boot up the "gaming station"

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Welp turns out my clouds weren't working in the packaged build because I forgot to put some DLLs in. Whoops.

>>148516441
>dat wide fat ass
I need it

Any news on belkanbux shop update?

>>148520582
Still nothing.
Will probably be more zodiacs and that one plane we all dropped two years ago.

>>148516645
eventually™

><<Up.>>

>>148514356
It's worth a watch for anyone near college age. Pretty simple message, but the delivery of it is completely unlike any other show i've ever seen.

>>148529364
What's the message.

>>148531550
Watch it and find out
don't be a pussy. Take what opportunities you have instead of waiting for your perfect ideal to come along

>>148516441
THICC

6x supplied going on, anyone want to play a 1500 max cst game or 6?
I'd be doing B7R and hoping for that satellite interception raid.

>Ded

>>148532619
I'd join if not working.
Oh well.

So, no one wants to play? I'll just let my sis play some Demon Souls and go sleep then.

><<Raise Altitude.>>

>>148539068
>10

>>148541964
>9

>>148543484
>liberation of gracemeria playing

><<Up.>>

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How did my painting come out buddies?
Any tips?

>>148546075
Thin those paints son goddamn

>>148546075
Would be amusing to see in Infinity, desu

And thin your paint, damn

>>148546075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c

What I was linked when I first posted some plane model.

But seriously thinning helps.

I woke up, sis left the house and PS3 is free, anyone want to play some ACE COMBAT INFINITY and not dwell in depression with ded posts?

>>148553424
Is your sister single?

>>148554930
I dunno, probably. She doesn't really do much else except go to school, jog and play video games.

>>148555518
Is she cute?

Like 1-10, how attractive is your sister?

>>148555518
Holy shit can she be my waifu?

>>148555518
Please be in London.

>>148556034
Maybe like a 7 or 8? Your average young Scandinavian woman really.

>>148556191
I dunno, maybe. You better want to play all night long god damn War Thunder then, that game is a fucking chore especially with them turbo autistic super realistic game modes.
That game is pure bullshit in my opinion.
Actually, probably not because she hates anime and weeaboos.

>>148556619
Fuck london.

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>>148554930
>>148556034
>>148556191
>betraying your jetfu
You disgust me, all of you.

>>148556720
I would love to senpai. :^)

>>148556720
>Scandinavian

Does she know Mika Häkkinen?

>>148553424
What's going on in infinity now? RTDM is over? Is the million credit drop chance still going on?

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>>148556720
>That game is pure bullshit in my opinion.
Just fly Grace, she's fun.

I wish they didn't drop regular sim or air quake sim ... that was the best part

>>148557145
Obviously, everyone here knows him. Dirt Rally is actually one of her current favourite games aside for the souls series and she's been bugging me to buy her an E30 BMW and turn it into a rally sprint car for her.

>>148556720
Don't worry. I'm sure I can train her to be the perfect waifu.

>>148557385
6 supplied at the moment.
Tanabata Challenge I think was still on.

>>148557429
>Dirt Rally is actually one of her current favourite games
Please no more. I can't take it.
>tfw no DiRT Rally playing gf

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>>148557429
>E30 BMW
Get a Quattro you pleb.

>>148557429
Get a Volvo 242.

>>148557650
>AUDI
No VAG crap in my yard, especially ones with no CEL.
There's this one dude with two Ur-Quattros and a Sport Quattro in our city
She wants them all

>>148557714
Fuck the 242, rusts like hell. 740 Turbo is the only way to go.
NA 740 are like 400 bucks over here whereas a 242 starts from 2 grand.

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>>148557429
>>148557650
>>148557714
>they don't exclusively drive glorious L A N C I A

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>>148557816
>Lancia
>Rally
>Anything other than the Stratos
You fucked it up.

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>>148558101
>implying the Stratos isn't my most driven car in DiRT Rally

Why do I have to choose one, senpai? I celebrate the whole team.

>>148557816
>>148558101
>>148558259
>not the Lancia (Firebomb) Delta S4

>/aceg/ can talk about anything
>music, cars, anything
>anything except Ace Combat

>>148557429
>she's been bugging me to buy her an E30 BMW
Annoying sisters
My sister played AC0 and now wants to buy a retired jet just to have one in the backyard.
I think it's a great idea.

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>>148558259
Alright, you win.

On another note, is that game playable with just a keyboard wheels are so damn expensive compared to flight sticks, why mang? All I got here is Dirt 3. How many tracks and shit are there in Rally?

>>148558381
Cars exist in the Ace Combat lore, it's fair game.

>>148558473
Someone post that pic of an anime gril with the Su-33 wreck on some playground/backyard. I can't find it.

>>148558594
Apparently not.
Look for the Logitech Formula Force GP wheel if you can find it. I bought that thing like ten years ago and my sis still uses it for Dirt Rally about daily. Only complaints I've heard are the lack of clutch pedal, gear shifter and the poor turn radius.

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>>148558874
I guess that means only Dirt 3 for me as is, if only it wouldn't lock up controls and disconnect my keyboard every 20 min or so.

No real space or money for the damn thing, my desk is already occupied by the HOTAS and rudder pedals.

No clutch would be kinda shit though.

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I just thought of somethings amazing for AC7: you press L3, boresight mode activates, but the circle is centered on your FOV. And with a VR headset, that means it's centered on wherever you're looking. Are you getting what I'm saying? The lock on will never be a problem again!

>>148559632
The lock on was a problem?

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http://useatoday.blogspot.com/2016/07/eapn-top-news-7-23-assertion-of.html

>>148366301
Since you asked,

Missing:
ESM
EML
MGP
MSTM
ADMM

Missing / slightly different animations:
LSWM (smaller explosion than MPBM)
EGPB (larger X mark than GPB)

>>148354967
These four all have different animations:
HCAA (smaller X mark than HPAA)
HPAA (larger X mark than HCAA)
MHPM (larger X mark than HPAA)
HVAA (the arrow diverges from the attacker triangle sooner than the other three)

Shared animation:
LAGM, LACM, and MAGM
UGB, UGBS
RKTL, RKTLS

>>148560552
>pace is gonna slow down due to commitments
So much for disc 2.

>>148560552
>slowdowns soon fellow aces