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http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/
http://evolve.wikia.com/wiki/Evolve_Wiki

>What is Evolve (stage 2)?
Evolve uses an asymmetrical structure where five players, four playing as hunters and one as the monster, battle against each other in an industrialized alien planet called Shear.
Stage 2 is the transition to Free To Play + a lot of gameplay changes.

>I heard the game was dead?
It was (at least on PC). 100-200 players and little to no updates from the developers. If F2P can bring it back is unknown, but as of right now 18k people are playing it.

>Should I "get" it?
It's free. 18GB. Download and test it out.

>F2P Model?
Copy paste:

Every week, four hunters (one of each class) and one monster will be in the free rotation. There are currently 24 Hunters and 7 Monsters in total, though some are variations of others. By playing the character tutorials, you unlock one hunter (Markov) and one monster (The Goliath) to keep forever.

Additional monsters, hunters, perks, and skins are unlocked by earning silver keys. Silver keys are earned by playing the game, leveling up, or getting login bonuses. Currently you can't actually buy silver keys, presumably so they can test the unlock rate, but that's coming later.

There is also a monthly login bonus punch card. You get one punch for each day you log in. Beyond silver keys, this can directly award new Hunters and Skins.

>Microtransation?
None as of yet.

>Discord
https://discord.gg/gRnYmTz
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First for wrath is the sexiest
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>>148290113
>Still nothing in the OP mentioning how to buy a founders key and the bonuses that come with
>Same fucking OP picture to boot
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>discordfag makes new thread literally just to shill
i fucking hate /vg/
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>>148290113
fuck off with your discord shit you retard
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Capacity on markov is good yes?
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>>148290478
t. steamgroup owner
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is blitz markov better than the regular one?
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>>148290507
Blitz markov yes, regular markov no
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>>148290586
With good players and a competent team, including yourself being a good player, yes.

Otherwise no.
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Holyshit why does waste land maggie exist?
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>>148290587

Well I just wasted my 27k on a bunch of perks all I need now is to grind out reload speed
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Wouldn't Bohrium Battery be better for medics than rocket king? In fact better for pretty much all characters?
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>challenges are broken
>earlier daily is gone and the periods one as well
>can't get a new one

is this happening to anyone else?
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>>148291469
working as intended
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>>148290981
Capacity is really good on Hank and Tech Sgt. Hank and probably Sunny so if you ever play those you'll be ready.

also Blitz Markov is really good, even if the monster forces you to move or disengage some times, so you might want to pick him up or get a key from G2A or w/e and get the founder's pack.
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>>148291469
well fuck I had restart the game for a new one to appear

this better not be a new bug so I don't have restart every fucking time
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>>148290716
by picking griffin instead
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>>148290113
>play normal Goliath
>Get lvl 3 pretty easly cause they sux at traking
>Fight Hank + Val
>Hit everyfucking skillshot and m1 on Val
>Shield heal shield heal shield heal
>Focus Hank
>Shield heal shield heal shield heal
And i don't even talk about the snare

Yeah i see why they make a "new" Goliath, this piece of shit can't get a single kill vs Hank
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What do you guys take on Val? Capacity or recharge rate? Or damage reduction? Or jetpack recharge?
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So, is there no way to get founder bux if I bought Evolve on console?
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>>148291891
when it launches on console yes
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>>148291891
you'll get it when it actually releases f2p on consoles soon
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>>148291605
Why is he better?
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anybody have a 970 and wanna share how it runs on it?
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Crow master race.
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Does torvald's damage indicators not reflect total damage, or is he really only dealing like 8 damage per shot?
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>>148291963
>why is griffin the best trapper in the game

gee i dont know maybe play the game and find out
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>>148292024
_____Yep._____
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>>148292015
constant 60 is possible with a phenom ii and a two year old AMD card

you'll be fine. im so glad they optimized the game
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>>148292094
The hook nosed jewrats make it so fucking expensive to buy new characters that I'd be blowing an entire night of evolve shekels buying just one.
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can kraken still cheese people really hard by LOSing behind structures and knocking people away constantly?
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don't forget to hook up with your fellow hunters

#riseup

https://discord.gg/gRnYmTz
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>>148291921
>>148291935
I mean, on PC. I don't want to play on console anymore. I know I linked my 2k account thing on console, pretty gay that it doesn't see that when I linked on PC.
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Who do i focus medic or support?

If i focus support its just constant heals from the medic and self shields cant kill him

If i focus the medic it's just constant shields from the support with the self heals

The fuck do i do?
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>>148292230
just pay 15 bucks on g2a and get ez founder status

griffin is the best because he slows the monster the most and most consistently, if you are good.

he's much more difficult than say, crow or abe though
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>>148290113
>Hey anon, do you have a mic?
>Hey anon, wanna join discord?
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>>148292274
Will you niggas bully me if i don't use a mic?
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>>148292346
oh, probably not then

i believe founder status comes from having the cd key linked in your steam account.

>>148292404
2k were the real jews. TRS just has problems with priorities
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>>148292015
970 here, maxed out easily 80fps+, but i'm 1080p 60hz so mileage may vary if you use inferior resolutions to the golden standard of gods amongst men

i7 6700k or some shit. 4ghz
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>Be crow
>Monster escapes with very little health
>Spot it in the distance
>It leaps across my field of view
>Shoot some charged shots
>It dies with full armour
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>All Founders will receive an additional 27,000 Silver Keys when this update launches
>Daily Challenges
>Reward increased to 150 Silver Keys from 50 Silver Keys.
N
O
I
C
E

Is Turtlerock finally leaving Judaism?
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I have special eyes.
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>>148292504
No!
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>>148291963
most importantly because you ARE the poon trap as griffin so you can reposition yourself for maximum effectiveness, with a nice secondary effect of it not breaking to the monster's random autistic flailing since you should be pooning him in the ass every time instead of some random spot on the front of his body

secondarily the poon is manual and instantaneous so you can time it to waste the monster's traversals and leap/charge abilities

also with reload speed perks you can fire the poon and generally hold the poon much longer than maggie's traps can

also sound spikes are better than maggie for tracking

pretty sure his damage output is higher but i could be wrong and that doesn't really matter anyways since you should be pooning the whole fight anyways
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>>148292494
yeah we're in the same boat apart from monitor
running 144hz so I might lower some things until its about 100+ stable
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>>148292353
Depends on the hunters
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>level 22 medic is on the team
>wraith

welp.. another loss incoming, I'm too lazy to search for another party again
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Did they just add more perks?
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>>148292720
>level 22 medic
is that a problem or something?

wraith is easy for people who aren't noobs. don't engage the decoy, keep your eyes open. wraith is a literal pubstomper / noobkiller
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>update queued
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>they just sort of threw on a health nerf to behemoth

what

why
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http://steamcommunity.com/games/273350/announcements/detail/615122756455181964

Patch notez
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>>148293010
Because his lava bomb is apparently doing double damage to hunters.

Keep in mind that even with that hes still the worst monster in the game
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Someone give me a kissy please :(
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>gorgon spams ants while it avoids us at all costs
shit dude, fighting it was zero fun
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Anyone got to test the new jetpack perks yet ?

Are they worth the trouble ?
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>People still leave cause of Wraith

Ha
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>>148293350
>Bullshit to kill
>Somehow people don't want their time wasted on a fight they can't win
Shocking
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Seriously though, what is the go-to build for a level 1 wraith, and how should I evolve throughout the game as it progresses?
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www.steamcommunity.com/groups/evolvevg

Steam Group.
Put it in the OP next time, please.
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>lower krakens health a little
>buff his mines

IT'S NOT HIS HEALTH YOU DUMB FUCKS IT'S HIS DAMAGE!
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>>148293150
ID?
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>>148293825
That mass AoE attack is fucking lethal. Our team was split up, but it still managed to bring us all down on our knees.
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>>148294012
Yeah but it doesn't exactly take much to bring you to your knees friendo

B)
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>>148293350

>obnoxious decoy that takes forever to die and does massive damage
>spammable AoE and fast burst movement

truly a mystery
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>>148292720
>>148292831

just lost the match because of the medic mainly

I didn't check who went and domed the wraith when it got to the relay but I bet it was them... the wraith escaped to regen armor and got us, otherwise it would have died

BUT FUCKING IDIOTS WHO ARE SHIT AT THE GAME AND DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING FUCKING COST MATCHES FUCKING LEVEL 22 PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING FUCK THE DAMN WRAITH PROBABLY HAD AROUND 200 HP WHEN IT GOT OUT JUST BARELY FUCK and the stupid ass armor regen saved it because it could not be domed because of one fucking retard

and then the medic actually said it was a shit game when it was his fault the team lost
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>>148294215
>>148293482

>People are still this bad at the game even after every monster was nerfed

Uninstall, any time please. Queuing and ending up with any of you people on my team is worse than dealing with any monster at any point of Evolve's life.
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>Play monster
>Takes 5 minutes to load into the game
>By the time the monster eating animation finishes i'm domed with half health.

Why the fuck is this happening i've lost 3 games now.
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>first fight against another behemoth
>playing battle grand,a
>14k damage in a stage one victory

It was over with in two domes.
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>>148294403
didn't read your post here but calm down dude it's a video game
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>Vs Meteor Goyim
>Medic never heals when we fight
>'Medic will you fucking heal us already?'
>'I'm friends with the monster under my bed :)'

We got close to killing him a few times but medic realized she could pull dome down again by holding F.

Having a friend on the hunter team when you are the monster is an instant win on the monsters part - always.
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What medic should i get first?
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>>148294556

k lol

the nerfs did nothing

the health pool was never the issue and adding a whopping 2 seconds to the decoy's CD isn't going to make it not gay
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How do poison and acidic rounds work? Is it just applied with an attack and then re-applied when it runs out or is it inflicted with every bullet? Wondering if they're worth it on Slim.
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>>148294708
Me and a friend always duo and every time I get monster (not often) I always head for them and smash the shit out of them first.

It's fantastic.
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EMET is the last medic I need. Is he good? I play slim alot
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How do you get the elite/prime skins?
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>>148294742
Val Caira is pretty good too if you can aim for shit

Don't get slim/EMET they belong in the trash
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>>148294838
get to level 40 with them
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>>148294769
indeed
the wraith needed a damage nerf, it can blitz through shield and health like it's nothing within seconds
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>>148294805

it refreshes on hit
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>>148294851
any diference between val and rogue val?
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Do the Damage bonus perks work with Bucket's turrets?
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The kraken fucking sucks
he's slow as shit
his moves are shit
everything about him is jsut shit
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>these patch notes
What the fuck are they doing to this game?
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>>148294978
OG val has a trang gun, a weakpoint sniper and a healing burst that heals her team

edgy val uses a poison gun, a sniper rifle, and her healing boost only heals her but it passively heals her team when it's up
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>>148295021
Appealing to casuals without addressing the actual issues
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>>148295010
dont look at people
seriously people should never be in yourLoS with vortex and banshee mines
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>>148294978

Noticeable on her 4th Skill, it gives passive healing buff for team on short range but no AoE heal when you activated it.
Instead you got self heal with 75% boost, good for saving yourself when the monster cornered you.
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perks for robot grandma of many punches?
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What are some good perks to invest in guys?
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>Added Afterburners, Focused Thrusters and Overthrusters.
>This series of perks gives Hunters extra distance with each jetpack dodge.
>Note: These do not stack with Sunny's jetpack booster.

Worthless
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>>148294983
yes
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>>148295194
probably dmg and speed/jet booster so you can keep up with trickier monsters
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Why would anyone want to play Hyde when Grandma does so much more damage at almost the same range?
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>>148295435
because they don't have grandma
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>>148295435
Consistant damage. Gradma gets reset if focused or facing an AoE monster.
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>Get a win with this monster that you don't have
You can't have a daily quest of something you can't complete.
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>>148295435

Gas Grenade

Loveable mister hyde

Flamethrower can reach kraken better than lance
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Do perks stack or not?
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>>148295532
this

just about everyone else is more about bursting and shit
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is EMET really shit?
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>>148295573
wrong on too many
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New free rotation when
I want a cancer week of Parnell, Nada, Slim, and Jack
We'll get new maps along with it right?
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>>148295680

He doesn't have any reliable healing because most monster AoE destroys his healing buoys. His pros are that he does good damage and he can recover a game from a team wipe. I love him but he needs buffed badly.
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>>148295532
Aoe doesnt mean much.

The only time aoe actually matters is after shock. Dots dont reset the counter and you should be spacing anyways so you dont get accidentally slapped which avoids shit like charge/leapsmash
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>>148295573
>jack
>not solid
it's shit mate
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>>148295680
No. He's a fucking god if the person playing him knows his shit and has cdr perks.

Pair him with Bucket's cooldown reduction ability and the whole team can become literally invulnerable for a second or two if they stay near the buoys.
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>>148295573
>Blitz markov not exceptional.
>Parnell worse than cyborg.
>Sunnny solid while hank is exceptional.
Shit.
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>it's downloading yet again
I just stopped playing it like 30 minuets ago, what the fuck
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>>148295573

>tech hank
>not solid

shit list
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>>148295849
>He's a fucking god if the person playing him knows his shit
and if the monster is fucking deaf and blind
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>>148296012
I don't know if I'm doing something wrong
but I have the hardest time with Tech Hank sometimes and other times he seems like a fucking god among men
I can't piece together what the rules are for the Orbital Drill. I know it has to be in an open area, but what else?
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>queue as griffin with my val friend
>get a sunny
>matched against a goliath
>he never gets away after the first dome
>eventually just gives up and turns around and accepts his fate
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Reload speed works with lennox?
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>pick sunny
>team mates never stay close enough to my drone and never use my jetpack booster to escape when they get focused

every fucking time
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>>148296112
As long as there is nothing above you just call it down near the monster and it'll auto follow it.
>>148296152
Not with her primary.
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I have two personalities
>Nicest emergency technician you'll ever see
and
>TWIST F-F-FUCKING PSYCOPATH
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>team of hunters over level 23 still got wrecked by a Wraith.
>Even at stage one they still got wiped out completely.

I don't really give a shit about losing but when you saw monster player are always pick a Wraith 90% of most of the time, it start getting stale.
Gorgon is way more annoying than Wraith, the only different between them is that Wraith can OHKO someone with a good combo while Gorgon can't.
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>log in
>40,000 keys

Zog me
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>>148296397
im level 26 and still dont know how to play this fucking game
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>Spend 4k keys on damage boost +5%
>Damage isn't boosted at all
My turrets still deal 7 and my rockets still deal 40. Doesn't seem like a 5% boost to damage to me.
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Monsters are so fucking underpowered. half of it comes from the horribly gimped xbox controls
>Want to jump smash somewhere
>NOPE, game locks onto something else and you jump half an inch
>Want to jump away
>NOPE, game locks oneto something so your jumps are half an inch as well
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>>148296716
You got memed on, kid
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It's a "Waiting for players" episode

5 minutes and i just alt-f4'd
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>>148295573
>EMET
>highest healing potentional
>questionable
>Slim
>worst healing rate
>not shit
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>>148296835
Okay what does that mean in english?
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>>148296716
>He actually fell for the damage buff meme
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>>148296912
Thanks you wasting your keys, dumbass
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>>148296129
i would too
that shit is broken
goliath is absolutely unfun to play vs that shit
goliath gets fucking owned by alot of shit actually
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>>148296882
Just back out and go back in.
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>>148296931
>>148296953
So the damage bonus perks just don't work right now?
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can someone explain how griffins harpoons work to me? once i harpoon it do i need to stop moving/move backwards to keep him snared? if i run forwards towards him does he stay snared? do i need to pull my mouse around or anything? i don't understand how movement affects the tether
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>>148296756

>Monsters are so fucking underpowered
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>>148297052
They do but 5% of 7 is fuck all lad.
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>>148296756
>Monsters
>Underpowered
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>>148297076
All you need to do is land the harpoon and be on the ground for the slow to take effect. If you land the shot mid air it won't begin so slow until you hit the ground.
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>>148297125
>>148297312
Welcome to the game.

>>148296756
>oh no I have to THINK as the monster?
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>>148296716
>Running damage buff perks on a support character.
Just why.
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>>148296756
>Any monster who isn't a complete retard ends on a 29+ winning streak
>Underpowered

Just how new are you
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>>148297125
>>148297312
Well coordinated hunters can't lose.
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>>148297648
All right try to kill a competent wraith/kraken :)
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>>148297191
Okay, but I just did +8% on an assault and my numbers didn't change either. So is this shit broken?
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Does anyone want to be my friend?
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>>148298018
how big is your dick?
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>>148298018
I do if you dont mind being friends with a shitter
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>>148296756
>using a controller
you stupid piece of nigger shit
>monsters
there is no "monsters" anon
the monsters are completeyl different
some are OP as fuck
others are UP as fuck
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>>148297648

>Coordination
>in a f2p game

i'd rather the game just stayed dead
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>>148297895
thanks for all the info lads, I won't buy or equip that shit for now
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>try to rebind some keys
>whenever I click one it just auto binds mouse button

O-okay
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>>148297895
Works for me just did it with markov 40 damage becomes with 5%
42
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Wraith is still OP
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>tfw got monarch and night hunter on best trapper
>otherwise play well
>but manage to get megamouth'd twice in a row within 20 seconds like some fucking level 1 hunter shitter because you didn't think one would reach so fast when zipping by and the other one looked dead (it was on the monster's path) but wasn't
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>>148298462
Weird. I did 8% and it didn't change at all.
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>>148298505
yes because they didn't really nerf her damage/dps which is what they should have done because that's the problem - she can shred hunters like paper if she focuses on someone
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difference between the two vals?
recommended hunter perks?
please assist
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>>148298692
Rogue val does more damage on her own and bigger AoE heals but shitty single-target heals. Idk if they changed it but instead of a heal burst she gets passive AoE regen and by using her heal burst she just fullheals herself. Its very useful if the monster is dumb and tries to focus you because you can end up living as long as an assault with defense matrix if your support shields you.

She also gets a DoT poison rifle which tracks the monster. The damage is definitely considerable.

Regular Val doesnt do as much damage with her sniper but she can make weakpoints show up on the monster so your team does more damage
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>>148297713
Does that somehow devalue a competent team?

A good team all on skype or some shit can easily kill a good wraith or kraken

Just because you're fucking garbage doesnt mean everyone esle is.
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So Tech Hank's Shield Burst gives a permanent shield increase but Bucket's is temporary?
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>>148297648
I really don't any problem winning against any monster, at least my hunter team has some idea of how to play.

>>148298108
I'm not using a controller, but they've designed the controls around xbox controls.
Jump smash auto aims, normal jumps auto aims too. Your jumps can be completely gimped on flat terrain, if there's something the auto-aim AI thinks it wants to jump to.
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>>148298970
Well mr pro player go kill one and record it :)
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>>148298931
>She also gets a DoT poison rifle which tracks the monster.
so instead of the slow it gives a DoT?
Think I'll stick with regular Val then
have to spoonfed babs kills with Val's slow
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>>148299064
no, it's the other shield equip that gives permanent shield
and that fucker drains its energy like mad
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what are decent damage numbers for lennox im trying to see where i stand if im pulling my weight or not
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>>148298675

The biggest problem is not her damage, sure it can down single hunter if timed correctly.
But the CC is beyond ridiculous.

>Decoy can damage and push hunter/s
>Decoy can block your support/healer screen with all that ridiculous visual effects.
>Decoy can slow hunter with monster perk.

sure he's glass cannon, but with that all CC?
Might as well call wraith a Tank/Mobber.
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>>148299162
If your gameplan is spoonfeeding retards you're better off playing Griffin or Sunny
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>>148299197
>zip zap zoom shred medic
>zip zap zoom shred support
>zip zap zoom shred everyone else
>win

unless they are in a really favorable position and can move well, they are dead from stage 2 onwards
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>>148299150
You're a fucking idiot, holy shit.
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>>148299379

>"MEDIC HEAL ME! MEDIC!"
>"MY WHOLE SCREEN IS FUCKING WHITE!"

Also how the fuck you differentiate between a Decoy and the real Wraith during all that chaos?
Sometime you saw two fucking wraiths on your face and even worst the decoy also does damage to you.
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i have no idea what you people are complaining about in regards to the wraith. You realize you can move in a 360 degree space right? Are you initiating combat with no jetpack energy or somethig?
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>>148299606
The real wraith doesn't flash white when you hit it.
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Is there a reason the game is running at silky smooth capped 20fps with severe audio stuttering?

inb4 hardware or drivers, both are very much up to date and this ran perfectly a few weeks ago pre-f2p just to confirm how dead it was

pic proof of not poorfagdom on a game that somehow managed to look like shit over a year later
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>>148299637

Wraith CC can cancel your jump, that's the biggest bullshit.

Goliath CC is a single attack, you can jump out from it before or after.
Wraith? let me hit you multiple times while after that I will cast another CC to you so you will cancel your boost/jet and waste your energy.
You got friend to help you out? here let them eat my Decoy.
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i don't see a reason to nerf monster health but imo armor regen is particularly broken for monsters

played two matches with some shitter who exploited fast regen and hid in the dome, channeling his armor much of the time
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So with bucket, is it even worth it to lay turrets in a dome fight or just leave them as aggro monster traps as you run along?
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>>148299291
I don't see how
everyone insta breaks the poon gun but you can't do anything about getting perma slowed
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>>148299727
Damn Evolve stage 3 is looking promising.
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>>148299843

Shoot him :)
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>>148299727
Close your porn tabs.
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>faggot trapper domes a wraith alone
>gets downed in 10 seconds
>omg ur guiz 2 slow I'm out
>quits
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>>148299843
And how does that benefit the monster? When he regens the whole team heals up, and let their CDs go down.
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elder kraken or wraith?
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>>148299843
>get outplayed
>devs please nerf monster too strong
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>>148299704

Isn't the original Wraith also can turned white during a fight?
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Its a "assault thinks its okay to solo dome because he can shield" episode
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>>148299991
wraith
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>>148299843
I don't play monsters much but last one I played was the wraith and I did that. I hid and ran for the entire duration of the first doming without losing any hp and just regenned armor behind obstacles while the shit hunters slowly chased. Of course I spammed decoys to slow them even more. Then I fought them again at stage 2 and blitzed through them.
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>>148299568
Well do it so we can see your ways instead of just insulting me like a person that has no arguments?
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>>148300016
I dont think so. He can turn a transparent blue with his decoy if he uses supernova, though.
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>>148299991
kelder
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>>148299843
>>148299979

Most non-retarded monster player I saw always used the hit and run tactics.

>Down a hunter
>Go to next one.
>Go hide when shield almost out
>Revived hunter lost one of his HP bar.
>repeat
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>>148299979
when he does this he runs into a tight indoor area with full bars of health, not very advantageous to engage.
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/273350/discussions/0/359543542234318028/

Which one of you is this troller roller?
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>>148300154

The visual FX in this game is literally an eye cancer, the low cast time on Wraith make it more worst.
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>That visible look of confusion when a monster player which is used to stomping pubs goes against a squad of vets and can't get anyone below half.

FEED ME MORE STREAKS
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The issue with the Wraith is, if your enemies are a well-coordinated team, they can provide you with a good challenge. If you're a Goliath and you're against a well-coordinated team, if you slip up even once that's pretty much game.
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>>148300214
Don't get downed as a hunter then.

>>148300230
So wait for his timer to run out. It takes 5 minutes for the dome goes down as long as nobody gets downed. Mean while, when he's not being shot at, his timer ticks down.
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>>148300380
monster players are not truly defeated unless they just give up

>that moment when the monster that was escaping after being in the rape dome but was hunted down like a wounded animal and then domed again when he was expecting to be in the clear for another minute or two and he just stops moving that exact moment the dome comes down

that is real defeat
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>>148300525
alright, i'll try that next time i see that shitter
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do you not get exp for losing anymore? played 3 games so far and lost them all but my exp bar hasnt filled up at all
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What does capacity increase? Rechargeables like repulser, lightning gun and so on?
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>keep getting matched against the same people
>lose with behemoth
>lose with goliath
>sigh and play gorgon
>win a crushing victory
>it doesnt feel like i earned it
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>>148300686
there's a bug that stop leveling up profile for some people

I already got to level 30 already so I don't care ahuehuaeuhuehuahueuau and characters still level up normally
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>How do we fixed Evolve
>Replaced Assault Armor skill with a CC skill where he can charged the monster and push or stun it for one second.

Yes or Yes?

What is the point of Assault Armor Skill anyway when monster never give a shit on you.
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Ok no memes I only have 5500 keys

Maggie or Griffon?

I want to stop all these fucking Goliath that just spam charge and jump and ruin every single pub I am in.
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am i just playing against bad goliaths or is he really easy to juke?

cause i can run around in circles around a small pillar or building and the monster will aimlessly follow me but i can outheal his damage by spamming nades at my feet or using r val's self heal
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>>148300975
most retarded idea in the thread

gratz
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>>148300975
Its a cold war situation. The monster never shits on you because the shield doesnt make it worth it. If the assault could die just as easy as any other class the assault would die first because hes 70% of the teams damage
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>>148301021
griff is the best trapper
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>>148301021
Griffin. His harpoons usefulness is dependent on your position but when done right can make any monsters time hell. Sound spikes are godly as well.
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>>148301204
>>148301149
Alright I'm going in.

Place spikes as you run and don't overlap, poon the entire fight?
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>>148301021
GRIFF, maggie a shit
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>When the monster doesnt focus you as lennox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgl2gBmSio4
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>Was about to buy Sunny
>Noticed that disgusting tattoo sleeve she has

Saved me 5500 keys
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>>148301149
>piss golelith off with my poons
>he starts focusing me
>hank and val got my back
>win easily
based mustachio'd trapper

>>148301256
poon to protect your friends or when the dome goes down
try to time it with their abilities/traversals/wall climbs
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>>148301256
just put them down so they don't overlap and don't go outside the map so none of the area of effect is "wasted"

you'll learn the good spots as you go

and remember that your main gun does nice damage for a non assault class weapon
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>>148301352
So is there ever a time to switch to gun or just poon until the monster is more semen then man?
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>>148301295
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>>148300871
guess i wont be playing till they fix that shit then
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>>148301256
Place spikes near chokepoints around the edge of the map. Overlapping is inefficient but sometimes happens, dont sweat it. Harpoon when the monster is between you and its target, otherwise it does nothing. You'll need to run around constantly to make use of it. If its target is YOU then just whip out your msg and go to town. His damage isn't godly for a trapper but its not bad.
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>>148301103
>If the assault could die just as easy as any other class the assault would die first because hes 70% of the teams damage

That's the point, Armor barely useful because you already got medic or annoying support.
Monster always aimed your medic or support first because aiming on Assault is completely pointless unless you got no other target on sight.

So in this scenario where most of the time always happen, what's the hell is the point of Assault Armor skill?
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>>148300871
Guess that explains why I've been 18 for what feels like forever
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>>148301573
You are the dumbest motherfucker in this thread
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>>148301584
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>>148301468
save it for escaping monsters and when they are chasing the medic
you need to be behnd the monster to have any real effect
and harpoon weapons of all kinds are almost completely useless against a cpu monster, they break those anchor lines in a half a second every time, any position really
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>>148301847

I fuck'd up.
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love playing lennox and the monster always has his back towards me so i can fist his ass with my plasma lance
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damage perk seems bugged
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Any veteran player streaming?
24 levels in and I still feels like doing everything wrong as a hunter and I don't know why.
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>>148302081
Everything is fucked since the update

>>148302336
I feel the same way
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I swear I cannot for the life of me figure it out. How the fuck does one all chat?
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>>148302336

>Open twitch.
>Pro competitive evolve stream : gorgon player
>exESL evolve player stream : wraith player
>Some e-celeb stream : "hey! I never play as this hunter. let me try it"

ded gaem.
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You know I remember back in the beta when monsters had to actually avoid the hunters until at least 2 if not 3.

Now you just wait at the dropship and down them there if you're the slightest bit good.
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>>148302654
try typing /all I love to suck dick
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>>148302709
>About to lose my 17 game win streak
>server shits the bed

That shit is just hilarious.

I had the last guy on their team down to 25% health when the dropship came in and it was all over. And then I got stuck in a wall and the servers crashed.

Good shit.
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>>148302709
so far I've had only one monster try that, a kraken player

he was dead a few minutes later
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>>148301858
>>148301352
>>148301256
>>148301438
Holy shit I actually had fun as a Hunter for fucking once. Those spikes are crazy useful and don't go away until the monster actually find them. Being able to post up on a rock and wait for the leap/charge combo rotation and cuck him felt same satisfying. Finally felt let I had some impact in the fight.
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>tfw your juicy win streak is stopped by a faggot medic who has no idea what he's doing
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>>148302810
I didn't need to know that about you but thanks.
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>Support gets eaten by a plant outside the dome and costs us the game
>Blames us
Some things never change
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>>148302952
Atta boi. Told you he was the best trapper.

Now don't fall for the EMET meme though. He is second worst medic.
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>>148302957

My biggest win streak was as a medic.
16 games, lost against a Wraith player like usual.
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>it's a "slim and crow against a monster on a 15 streak" episode
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Just got placed in Gold Expert woo
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>>148303036
>Supports never shields when i'm getting mauled by the monster and blames me for not healing
He also had the most cancerous name i've seen
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What's a good skill build for Kraken?
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>>148303256
>Highest match won
>Silver 2

Yeah, it's still fucked, as usual
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How are the controls on a xbox controller I am trying to get my friend to play but he prefers the controller since he has arthritis.
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>>148303529
It's an FPS.
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>>148303529
It's fine, the aim assist is pretty crazy so that would help.
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>>148303529
you can play with controller on pc
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Game crashes for no reason while fucking up the ui in the process. Will they ever fix this shit?
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>>148303589
I don't know, the monsters are huge and usually fought up close + the aim assist
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>>148303256
>Ranking as hunter
Try going monster you cheat easy when you've got 3 people helping you get ranks
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>find wraith in the middle of evolving to stage 2 with their panties down
>they start a vote to restart round
>someone actually votes yes on hunter team

must've been buddies with the wraith who was on a 7 match win streak so I left after that

fucking bitch ass cunts for reals
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>wraith

So unbelievably overpowered it's not even funny. I was assault with shield up and my damage reduction going and he still shredded me in like 5s.

This game will be dead in less than a weak with these terrible devs.
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>>148302657
All those "pro" or "ESL champion" are meme players (and TRS take their shitty opinion into consideration when they balance things out).

Also the devs are pretty bad in testing their game, that's why the balance is so fucked up, they balance the game for the way they play, not of the abusable/efficient way every wraith or gorgon plays.

Even in the first ESL tournaments in 2015 you rarely would see wraiths losing, I don't know how it still is because i stopped following the "community" and the game was dead with 200 online players.
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>>148304486
b-but they decreased its hp by 5% and increase the cooldown of its abilities by 2 secs! that's the best fix in the world!
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Is there any way to get the default badge back?
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>>148304670
>>148304486
>Wraith is OP
when will this meme die, you just need a trapper who isn't shit and to fly up.
UP YOU FOOLS UP
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>>148304486
that's the problem with wraith -way too much damage output
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Why are all the perks dumpy little +3% stuff, +10% stuff. Why don't they have interesting ones that actually do stuff?
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>>148295573
Is Laz that bad?
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>>148304953
look it didn't work for dgd why would it work for evolve?
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people need to stop activating dome just for the sake of activating dome

welcome to my playground, bitches
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First I didn't like Hank but I am starting to like him because of his shield beam literally fucks over the monster trying to kill the medic. It wasn't even hard to do and my team barely took damage yet when I go medic I never get any help.
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>>148304486
I play wraith and that didn't happen.

With decoy 3 going assaults still don't take jack shit in damage. Maybe your shield ran out and you didn't notice.

Wraith can totally gib someone in like 2 seconds if they can't move. But not through shields.
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>>148305150
Maybe TRS should put in a helpful tool tip saying just that.
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>>148305025
He can't heal outside his class ability
His ress got nerfed
He's pretty bad compared to the others
He still really fun to play and has some of the best dialog though so play him.
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oh hey, I can't level anymore
nice game
>>148305338
I think making so you need two people to activate/take down the dome would work better than the current system
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>>148304953
There not all that.

There is wallhacks and poison bullets if that's what you want.

They're working on more sets
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>>148303410

stage1: 2 lightning strike, 1 banshee mine, 1 vortex
stage2: 3-2-2
stage3: 3-3-3

if they have harpoon/sentrygun/emet fuckery put a vortex point into aftershock, its his worst skill but can help clearing shit out
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I agree with all these anon a saying they should nerf everything, NOTHING should do damage
Don't buff hunters to make them good that would be rediculous that would be dumb, just make the monsters to no damage problem solved.
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>>148305456
That'd just make catching the monster harder, you know ANYONE can deactivate the dome right?
Talk to the people you're playing with say hey don't dome him in the cave they do it any way unplug that shit.
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reminder that there is now a teleport and instant full health cheat released for this game, and you will see it CONSTANTLY.

full health cheat currently only works for hunter though.
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>get assault role, fuck year
>have blitzkov and lennox, both really solid choices for big dick damage
>logically should choose one of them
>definitely should not choose hyde
>seriously, withthose two why even hyde at all
>yep not gonna pick hyde
>20 seconds later
>"Oh right, the bird man. Hallo bird man."

The interactions, the accent, the slang. I want to be credit to team but Hyde's voicework 2good. Send help.
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It's taking forever to get a match
is the server dead or something?
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the range on griffin's harpoon gun is amazing, i stopped a kraken from flying away

griffin makes krakens weep
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>>148305025
Yes, he was terrible before, and he just got nerfed on top of that
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>>148305483
Yeah but wallhacks and posion bullets aren't as good as straight damage or jetpack stuff
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>>148305576
t. wraith/kraken main
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>>148305025
Laz has been nerfed too much and for no reason. He was always a character for good players. He can still be ok if the player is good. Most Laz players aren't good though.
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>>148305647
Hyde still pretty good tho
>>148305723
If it happens just back all the way to the main menu and try again.
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>>148305632
yes, I know ANYONE can deactivate the dome, and that leads to shitters who have a friend playing the monster literally throwing the game in favor of their friend
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>>148305212
I hate supports that literally never help the medic getting mauled
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>>148305797
hey man lazarus was too powerful, a dev dealt 15k damage with his sniper, the nerf was well deserved
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>>148305212
If the medic is targeted hard by a sperg monster other hunters can and should try to block the monster. Especially the assault.
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>Game that has one side where it only depends on a single person's skill, vs a side where it depends on the coordination and skill of 4 people

Probably the most unbalanced game I've played in my entire life
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>>148305456
>I think making so you need two people to activate/take down the dome would work better than the current system

With the current Wraith and gorgon traversal speed? Good luck trying to catch any decent monster.
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>>148305996
you just need to travel in pair and not have retards that follow the monster instead of intercepting it
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HOW THE FUCK DID THESE NIGGER DEVS DISABLE ALT TAB AND ALT ENTER!!!!!!!!!!! NOW I LITERALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LOADING SCREEN WHILE SEARCHING FOR A FUCKING GAME. FUCK YOU NIGGER MODS
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>>148305647
Hyde is great though. Only Torautist and niggernell suck dick. And base Markov I guess.
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>>148305456
from the devs
>You're not losing progression. With the 2.01 patch we adjusted account progression which is throwing off UI a bit. Keep playing, it'll fix itself!
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>>148305982

but its fun

winning as hunters feels really good
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>>148305982
>>148306102
yes, winning as hunter feels like the best thing in the world
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>>148305982
and now you know why it died in less than a year. because it was unfun and the devs dont give shit to fix it
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>>148305905
a monster so fucking shit that Laz had time to shoot it that often.. wow Laz must have been so OP

it really makes you think
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>>148306051
>not having 1-2 hunters follow the tracks and others intercepting the path

wew how new r u
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>>148306098
where was that posted?
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I alt +tab just fine with my borderless windowed mode
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>>148305921
Oh yeah? Explain to me how you can """""""""""block"""""""""" the monster as an assault anon

All your dumb ass is going to do is eat extra damage from his AoEs and make the medic have to heal even more, you are literally doubling the damage the medic has to heal if you are standing in front of the medic to """""block""""" the monster like some autistic bodyguard or you're wasting your defense matrix

If you want to stop the monster then play a trapper, CC is their job, nobody else is capable of stopping or blocking the monster
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>>148306084
What's wrong with Parnell? I'm trying him right now and his damage seems pretty goodwhen he's juiced up(although that's the problem I guess)
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God fucking dammit why nobody ever helps me when i'm getting targeted by the monster
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>>148306486
Hello low level hunter. How are you today?

A simple "dash in its path as it charges or throws a rock" can stop an attack, just enough for the medic to recover their burst. Positioning in this game is extremely important.

Of course it doesn't work against EVERY monster, plebby sperg.
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>>148306687
His damage isn't good when he's juiced up, it's just competitive/on par with other assaults. And unlike Parnell, other assaults don't have to kill themselves to get that damage and they also have additional useful tools in that slot like Hyde's area denial, Markov's anti-looping, and Lennox's traversal. Parnell doesn't have any of that, his ability is to kill himself and when he doesn't do that his damage is garbage.
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Should I be using reload or capacity perks on Tech Sgt. Hank?
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>>148306971
I've found that recovery on his 2 is the biggest issue.
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>>148306687
Parnell without the berserk thing on is fucking shit, I think even some non assault characters can outdps him
and when his damage is slightly less shit he ends fucking killing himself
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>>148307081
That's where both of those perks come in handy but I still don't know which is more effective.
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>>148306838
Taking a hit doesn't stop charge you idiot, he just goes right through you. Rock throw and abduct are literally the only two abilities in the game that you can actually """"block"""" and both of those are extremely easy to dodge so NOBODY should be getting hit by them AT ALL

You're seriously telling me you think it's good idea to waste your jetpack and dodge into a fucking attack and eat a shitload of damage or get taken away from the battlefield when they otherwise would literally hit nothing against even a semi-competent team of hunters? Kill yourself, plebby sperg
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>>148306791
As medic you really need all the jetpack dodges you can get, only way to stay alive is to kite the monster like a madman and pray the others can force it to fight them.

Medics always get fucked first, but at least the others are doing damage, right?
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>>148307148
capacity isn't helping with the recovery speed of the skill
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when are they going to fix this stupid fucking searching bug
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GODAMN

This game is fun once you get Griffon. Those fucking spikes. They are basically make 50-70% of the map lock on monster detection and that hook stop faggots from spamming constantly disruption moves. I can actually peel for the medic and support. Plus once the dome goes down you can drag his ass so the team can cram it up his pooper for nice damage instead of the monster running away instantly.

Went from 1/5 wins as hunter to 3/3 in a row.
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>>148307154
Better to take a hit for the medic when you can rather than have the medic take a strike, you dumb fuck.
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>>148307269
From what I read they're working on it, no clue when it'll be fixed though
> set up a 4 stack
> splits us into 4 solo queues
That's fine, I didn't want to play with my friends anyway
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>>148307264
>>148307264
It doesn't hurt either, it reloads just as fast as it does with no capacity perks.
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>>148307154
t. not a medic player

There has been countless instances that i would had preferred someone else take a hit than me
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EMET takes forever to level.
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>>148307769
jesus christ were you playing against a deaf monster?
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Never played evolve, do I download it and ruin pubs until I l2p?
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>>148295573
How is the black assault dude dialog and gameplay wise?
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>>148307840
Was sitting outside dome while Sunny/Lennox/Griffin did their work dodging his shit.
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>>148306791

>Always hide until you have to heal someone.

>Keep good positioning and high ground if possible, if the monster wants to get to you, make him spend traversals/abilities, it should never be free.

>Climb and jump off cliffs (Roaching).

>Save your jetpack dodges for hard hitting abiltiies (Goliath rock throw, Wraith explosion and supernova, Kraken Lightning, etc) You can survive through their autos for a very long time.

>Don't let the monster isolate you from the rest of your team

>As soon as the monster focuses someone else, try to stay as far as possible while still healing.

Congratulations, if your support knows how to press 4 when you're low on health you will probably win if the monster only tunnels you.
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>>148306791
Because they hate you. Seriously though the easiest way to kill the hunters is to lure or force one guy away from the rest. After that it's ezmode.

Or just play assault. Suddenly it's your job to look mean and take aggro.
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>>148307918

Top tier dialogue


shit tier damage TRS fucked him
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>>148307956
>Kill everyone
>EMET puts up his beacon
>where the fuck is it
>WHERE THE FUCK IS IT
>Flying around at the top of map and still can't see it.

Must have been in a fucking cave. Little robot shit I'll get you next time.
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Holy fuck why did they make monsters so unfun now

Sneak is useless

There's hardly any wildlife, certainly no big ones left, and the planet scan picks me out constantly. Once they're on my ass, I can do nothing to shake them.

Fuck me.
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>>148308159
>flying
kraken shitter detected
go die in a fire please
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>Abraham get up you must fight the monster!
>STICK YOUR SHOTGUN UP ITS ASS AND SQUEEZE

fucking EMET
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>>148308234
Wraith can fly bro. Actually wraith can probably fly further than kraken with warp blast.
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Protip, health regen takes effect as long as you're not taking HEALTH damage. This means with a hank or sunny you can run 3 tiers of health regen and actively heal up while being shielded, often times regen back to full as long as you don't take a direct impact from a rock while on ground, or a lightning strike.

and 3 tiers of health regen is on par with taking a healing grenade from caira every single second.
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>>148308223
is the Tyrant even still in the game? Or does he just not appear on this set of maps?
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I'm installing this game right now, i've got no idea how any of this stuff works apart from hunters(?) have a big bowl that they drop and the monster can't go through.
What's the easiest character to be useful with?
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>>148308223
There are like four maps, only two of which I ever see, and the Tyrant is gone. Carrion birds are gone.
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I really want to stack pounce damage even though it's shit against better teams.

Behemoth when? I want to lick people to death next.
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>>148308234

When will the "Kraken is broken" meme end?

>1 dodge sideways for lightning strike
>2 dodges for aftershock, most don't even take it anyway and he shouldn't be getting close
>Assault/Trapper shoot the mines
>Vortex is his only real damage ability

Of course pubs full of shitters are going to get rekt but he's actually easy if you know how to fight him.
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>>148308750
>sneak attack
>can do it while being fucking shot at
Why is this allowed
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>>148308223
An op sneak would be stupid. Monster can evolve so fast, that they would be stage 3 before anyone could find them.
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>>148308841
It's better to think of it as a pounce or tackle than a sneak attack
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>>148308859
It was fine in legacy. Having the trapper (tracker at this point) being able to pinpoint your location every few seconds is bullshit.
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>>148308841
To be fair I was extremely surprised it worked. I'd say 80% of the time my sneak fails if they are shooting at me at all. I think it depends on fire rate or some shit. Markov for example can't be sneak attacked with his lightning shit going on.

Also wraith can totally fly. Kind of.
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>>148309068
This. I'm fine with them having a global track, but they can do it so fucking frequently. Goliath is totally fucked in this meta. Meteor Goliath isn't as fucked because he's just an all-around better Goliath. After Behemoth's done in the oven, I think it should be Goliath's turn.
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>>148308686
Sunny
Her kit great for keeping your team alive.
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Nothing feels better than ending a Torvald's 6 win streak by losing two bars through two dome engagements and then destroying the relay before they get there.
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>>148308223
>tfw there was all those options of wildlife buff for both monster and hunter to pick wisely during the match.

>can't blend with the rocks as goliath thanks to scanner

>Can't fake footsteps at the beginning and go to the opposite side of the map through the river to hide your trails.
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>>148309315
except for when you get retards who run away from your drone
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>>148309359
>bullying some guy playing the worst assault
>on gorgon
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>>148309068
>>148309223
Maybe buff the tracker skills and increase the cooldown on the global tracker.

The new jetpack boost + the tracker is just fucking silly in how quickly you can catch the monster. Goliath's get shat on with any semi-competent team that can catch him quickly.
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>>148309493
This is a massive accomplishment for me as someone who barely wins as monster.
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>>148309392
>tyrant

I've never seen one as a F2P shitter. Do they even exist on these maps?
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fuck, i just played against this gorgon who managed to evade all my sound spikes and get to level 3 without a dome engagement

i'm a trapper main so how do i counter?
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What's the Rocket>Reload>Rocket perk set for monsters? As in it's not the best for every character but you can't go wrong with it.
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This is the third time in a row I've been in a party that got entirely wasted by a Stage 1 Kraken. I do perfectly fine against any other creature, including Wraith. So what am I doing wrong?
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>>148309664
No, removed.
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>>148309696
Probably transverse recharge or straight movement speed.

Smell range would be nice too but I haven't even gotten to use it yet.
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>>148309725
>>148308825
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>>148309664
Not anymore. They wont be half as annoying with how weak they made wildlife though.
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>>148309725
Nothing really, Kraken is just pure bullshit.
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>Track duration 413 seconds
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What monster should I get, and what are the best ability level orders for monsters? What is the difference between Kraken and Elder?
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>>148309664
tyrants were some scary shit and took a while to kill
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>Patch
>Kraken damage buffs
>Goliath nerfed to shit via perks

WHY
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>use my extra 27k to buy damage perks and gold capacity
>play blitz markov

The russian is fucking amazong
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>4 players found
>Someone backs out
>4 players found
>Someone backs out
>4 players found
>Someone backs out
>4 players found
>Someone backs out

>Finally starts
>don't get my role
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>>148309790
>>148309827
I'm on a 4 lose streak now vs stage 1 Kraken, this time it was Elder Kraken. Maybe I just need to stop playing Bucket if people are gonna pick Kraken a lot?
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>>148295573
>waggie
>bad
uninstall your game
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griefers and retards will start ruining this game soon by doing shit like canceling the dome

f2p is adding many issues because of all the idiotic shitfucks out there
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>>148309896
Elder is more fun in my opinion and is more of a "get in your face and fuck you" type of monster as opposed to normal Kraken.
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>>148301274
>not being focused by any monster while I play Lennox.

i feel an unnatural bloodthirst overcome me and just go so fucking HAM. Played with a pub who claimed he did all the damage melting the monster's armor. topkek no....
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>>148309896
WRAITH
R
A
I
T
H
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>fighting three people away from the point for an entire 30s
>not a single team mate pushes up
>got one kill, I have gold elims

Fuck this fucking matchmaking sometimes, I swear to god.
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>>148309896
EKraken is for good players. Kraken is for the spam shitters.
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>>148310183

hi ovg
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>Don't like Wraith
>Don't like Kraken
>Gorgon is Okay
>Really like Goliath
>Goliath without the speed perks is shit
>Speed perks just got nerfed

How badly am I fucked?
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>>148310015
You should not pick Bucket period. Against anything. Stop being a pretend-assault with that shit damage and actually shield your team with either Hank or Sunny, everyone else can fuck right off for being a useless cunt.

Can you imagine what your medic must feel like when he gets focused and you're like 'shit dude lure him to the sentry guns!' instead of saving his life?
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>>148290113
>>148290113
#MakeStealthGreatAgain
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5 losses against Kraken. I avoid his attacks, I place turrets in high areas, I shield whenever possible, and I deal decent damage with my rocket launcher, but after a few seconds, I look around me and my entire team is dead and now I'm 1v1 with the Kraken. It's been like this every single game.
>>148310363
I wait to use Shield Burst for when someone's getting focused, and since I'm Bucket, I can use it twice in a short period.
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>>148310363
Or you could go save his life by refreshing your support shield and his heal burst.

That too.
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>>148310380
What the fuck were those niggers doing
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I love how nobody gives the support shit for never shielding at all but only blames the medic. Half my games I would never once seem them use it instead they just use their gun and that is about it.
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>>148310441
Compare it to Hank being able to shield someone on demand over and over, and Sunny's instant bot that shields anyone for 75% and forces the monster focus it or lose. And they ALSO halve the shield burst, just can't use it as often as you. It doesn't really compare.
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>>148310613
Bucket's turrets absolutely annihilate monster armor, though.
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i wish pubs knew how to fucking dodge rock throws it would make healing them so much easier
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>>148310380
>support gets eaten by wildlife
Fantastic.
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>>148310645
In the current Dome (5:00), the Assault is going to be doing damage until the duration is up. As long as nobody gets downed. Surviving is more important than dishing out that shitty extra damage faster.
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Finally tried Niggernell.

Holy fucking shit what an awful assault character. The worst.
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>>148310819
Not him but I grabbed bucket because I thought he still had the uav from evolve 1, boy was I disappointed.

He's okay. Hank is great but poor bucket is just okay.
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>>148310524
Only trapper could dome back then, everybody had to go to the same side of the map to protect them.

Also if the monster used sneaky mode on spawn you would have no footprints to follow, you had to gamble.

And since there was no global scanner you could smell the hunters and try to hide in edges to juke them, sometimes they would jetpack above your head in a cliff and go to the other side of the map.
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You dumb faggots

PERKS DO NOT STACK
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Am I being a good little STALKER?
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>>148311046
>PERKS DO NOT STACK
Perks stack but Wildlife buffs override.
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>>148311046
.. whaaat?
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>>148311046
I know they don't stack with wildlife buffs, but are you saying they don't stack with themselves? I've been runing silver and gold jetpack recharge boost, I'm pretty sure I could feel the difference.
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>>148311046
wait really
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>>148310985
Nigger even back in the day nobody good did that. You did teams of 2 and stuck the support with the trapper so the trapper could stealth dome
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>>148310985
And this is why maggie was so popular.
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>>148311046
I don't believe you but I'm going to diversify anyway
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Wait does the character rewards stop at lvl 21? For some reason the last reward is just fucking 50 keys.
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>>148309896
Wraith is fun with bronze damage reduction perk and silver+gold claw perks

Barely need to go S2
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Hold the phone how the fuck do i use griffin harpoon? is it supposed to bind the monster?
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>>148311543
Hold the button fampai
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>>148311543
Click and hold
Doesnt really work if the monster's coming toward you
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>>148311394
it goes beyond 21, it just doesn't scroll until you level
22 you get a golden perk
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>>148290113
goliath needs more porn
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>>148311312
>>148311161
>>148311125
I tested this in custom.

PERKS YOU SELECT DO NOT STACK WITH PERKS HAVING THE SAME EFFECT
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>>148311589
>>148311573
Ah i see thanks senpaitachi, fucking game doesn't even tell you how to use it
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>>148311668
it used to
but for some reason they removed the little videos they had
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>>148311654
Bullshit i can feel the difference by flying forever
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>>148311795
They were outdated and made the download a lot bigger.

t.dev on forum
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>>148311825
I mean you can use help tips then, i only get to see those when you have an AI partner and you switch to him
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>>148311654
>>148311046
If this is true then it's a bug

https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/stage-2-how-does-perks-looks-like-now-in-terms-of-stacking-itself/88863/16

QA specialist himself confirmed they do stack.
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is there any way to buy perks without having to join a game and make others wait for me while i look at them?
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>Be hot on the monster's ass
>Grazing him with bullets every so often
>Literally can't escape me
>Open my map
>Team is on the other side of the map doing god knows what
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>tfw no behemoth
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>>148311976
training
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>>148312050
Buff soonâ„¢
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>>148311978
>i'm trapper
>some faggot says "OVER HERE"
>The entire team follows him literally to the other way where the monster is
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got my first relay kill with goliath that was fun
what should i get elder kraken or wraith ? and what is the difference between elder and normal kraken?
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>>148312138
>behemoth
>needing a buff

His damage output is fucking insane.
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>>148312432
Behemoth is literally worse than goliath and hes not only getting a buff hes getting multiple buffs.

Prepare your angus, shitter.
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Does Crow's charged rifle ignore armor or does it deal damage to both? If the former, then why would I want to use it if I could be dealing damage to shields so Assault can hurt its health bar faster?
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>>148312518
It ignores armor when fully charges but does damage normally otherwise.
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>>148311978
>Be hot on the monster's ass
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>>148311046
>>148311654
Perks are really buggy right now, they are supposed to stack though. Some just plain don't work at all.
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>>148312518
To chip when youre closing in or chasing after a dome, you should be primarily spamming it though, yeah.
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Hello. I am new to the game.

I want to be a cheesy player. Which characters are the very best for the role?

I've recently found out Wraith is the strongest monster but I like being the hunter.
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>>148312495
I'm dead serious, behemoth has huge damage. He's just really slow.

Go into custom game to confirm.
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>>148312561
So I'd want to shoot the monster with that when he's Level 1/2 and escaping and that's about it, right? Since his uncharged does more DPS and taking down the shield is better.
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can you heal from outside the dome with EMET?
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Wraith has nice legs??

????
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>>148312686
Im not denying he has big damage, But he is unbelievably slow and its laughably easy to avoid him.

Are you unaware you can just jetpack out of the tongue disable?

Stand on a cliff some distance away from him and youre literally unkillable, you dont even have to dodge anything.

This isnt mentioning the fact that he's to slow to juke and the maps are not designed for him at all anymore so he cant even run.

Comparing behemoth to wraith kraken or gorgon is -laughable-
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>>148312820
yeah just throw buoys and spam heal burst
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>tfw your teammates are slow as shit and can't locate anything

that's when you know not to bother anymore
can't track anything worth shit and have the wrong perks
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>>148312907
wow they were bad
at least I got another loss and some keys for idling
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>>148312872
You haven't played a good behemoth then with cooldown reduction. His tongue goes off cd faster than your jetpack recharges.
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>>148312694
HP damage is permanent, armor damage isnt.
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>played against behemoth twice today, first time seeing him
felt like bullying a fat kid, i felt really bad the whole match
poor bob
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>>148313101
>behemoth runs inside a cave and walls himself in
poor thing
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>>148313054
Sure thing Mr.Big dick.

When the buffs roll around be sure to post your 40 game winstreak for us.
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>Tracker is Abe
>Chinese name
>They don't use Stasis grenades
>Ever

Fucking chinks.
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>>148313101
We beat a Behemoth after the first dome because he couldn't keep himself from running into shit in his sanic form.
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>>148312694
What's the trick to dodging lightning strike? Seems impossible, no matter when I time my dodge, early or late or in between, I ALWAYS get hit by it, even if I'm clear out of the effect on my screen
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>>148313101
>>148313226
>behemoth runs away post dome
>ball off a cliff
>literally soars through the air, rolling all the while in a straight line over the ground
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>Buy jetpack perk
>Unbelievably more mobile
This system is retarded.

Nerf the perk, boost the base rate.
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>>148313634
which one, the recharge one or rocketlord?
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>>148313181
Not him but I've played against good Behemoths. One with a 49 win streak as well. It was kind of close but still got us because my team went too close most of the time and got combo'd.

The first Behemoth I played against was really bad. But others have mostly been founder vets.
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>>148292504
>Reward increased to 150 Silver Keys from 50 Silver Keys.
I guess that's okay but it's still kinda low, I don't like picking a monster I don't feel like playing for such a low number of keys
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It finally happened. I guess it couldn't go on forever. It was against a premade with a maggie malkov/bucket/val. Made a great team and a great combo.
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>Exceed level 15
>Players aren't retarded enough to lose to standard Goliaths anymore
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>>148313695
EIther. Both.

Jetpacks are way too punishing without perks. No wonder the monster always wins against newbies.
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>daily requires me to win a match as wraith
>pick it
>everyone leaves the lobby

this is fucking stupid
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>>148314225
>Win as [Class], [Class], or [Monster]
Hmmm, I wonder what you should do here.
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>>148314272
>try my luck carrying 3 retards or get an easy win on my own

seems like an easy choice to me
>>
Is Goliath the Ryu of Evolve? Will TRS ever make another honest monster?
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>>148314386
Is behemoth OP or something?
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>Server just dropped my game
That's fine it was a kraken game anyways.
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>>148294612
Lennox vs Behemoth is fucking DISGUSTING, by far the hardest counter in this game
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>>148314386
Meteor Goliath is favored in the current meta-game.
The comparison would be that Evil Ryu has a "better" kit but with certain limits (e.g. health pool).
There is not that level of balance with these monsters.
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Any chance some pros could make some maps of the levels with areas highlighted as good locations to fight? Colored differently for monster and hunter
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>>148308825
>Assault/Trapper shoot the mines
Well that explains why i never got anything done against that fucker, i didnt even knew you could do that
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When do the free heroes and monsters rotate?
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>mfw at first i basically just berserker charged as lennox into fist fight against meteor goliath
>team could not keep up with my fast and i get downed
>Get picked back up, go back in for round 2 of fist fight with monster
>we end up kicking his teeth in, ending the match at about 5 mins.
>get final shot as the thunderous dakka of Lennox's autocannon just blasts the monster apart

jesus fuckign chirst lennox is so fun, even if they nerf her, i will continue to play her. combined with a decent crow, we had that sumbitch on the run.
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>>148308825
>1 dodge sideways for lightning strike
bullshit, bull fucking shit, i know it's supposed to be like that but it's literally impossible to dodge, i don't know if it's lag or what but i always always always get hit by this bullshit even when i'm completely out of the goo puddle on my screen, fucking miles away, no matter how i time my dodge i ALWAYS get hit by this thing, what's the secret?
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>>148314791
no its ok his low forward has 2f faster startup (rock throw deals slightly more initial damage)

that means he's balanced
>>
Fuck I hate gorgon so much.
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>supports who don't press 4
>medics who try to solo the monster
>trackers who don't press 4
>assaults who try to snipe from the back and revive in combat.

Just kill me now.
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>>148314990
did you try dodging twice
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>tfw you almost lose as a wraith because you fuck abduction like 10 times

I was literally down to my last bar of health
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>>148315039
>Trappers who use their gun instead of their CC
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are there any updated maps for stage 2 with buff locations and good fight locations for the new level reworks?
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>>148315243
>weapon switch speed perk as crow
>learn the optimal rhythm for fully charged stasis gun/swap to gun for several shots
Pure raep
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>Sorry guys I don't play FPS games
This is the worst excuse I've seen an assault give tonight.
Worse he had Assault as his preferred role.
>>
won my first match as wraith pretty fun
killed a guy named jesus playing as medic with a sneak attack because the others hunters made to the relay and left him alone
where should i put my points after i evolve?
all i did was max out warp and supernova
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>>148314990
you can dodge it if you time it right

one way to dodge it is to dodge boost towards the kraken if you are close enough because if you are behind him it won't connect
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>>148314386
Goliath IS Ryu of the game
He has fundemental abilities and no real gimmick
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>>148315243
Seriously this. Playing abe is so fucking easy.
1.tag monster
2.Keep him slowed always
3.Keep him tagged always
4.Shoot if balls are still up

It's not that hard.
INSTEAD though we get rambo Abe who has to blast the monster 1v1 while never tracking the fucking thing.


I'll admit that I always forget to track wildlife(everyone always shoots it after I do) but I track the fucking monster even while domed.
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>>148314791
What about the current meta makes M. Goliath better than Goliath?
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>>148315764
Nothing feels quite as good as seeing the Monster in the distance and scoring that one clutch tracking Dart. Abe is really a fantastic trapper if played right, as good as Griffin, but goddamn so many retards dont even use his grenades.
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>Can't win as Goliath
>Get paired vs standard goliath
>Get dunked
Maybe I'm just tired.
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can gorgon just go and stay go? fucking hate fighting that cunt as lennox because of the constant goddamned jumping.
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>>148315803
MG is the same except he has better AoE damage. The normal Goliath is all about single target, but doesn't have enough DPS to break through a halfway competent Medic and Support team. Meteor can spread damage much more effectively, thereby stressing the Medic and Supports capabilities. Either the medic and support tunnel one target and the others die slowly, or they spread their healing and the Goliath nukes one.

Regular Goliath is honestly just fairly weak. He could use a minor buff, a bit more direct damage on his basic attacks would be enough.

>>148315930
Have you ever tried playing Gorgon against Lennox? It's fucking awful, you have to constantly jump around because Lennox will CHUNK your HP if she hits you. It takes like 5 hits for Lennox to break a Stage 2 Gorgons armor. Lennox/Caira/Hank basically hard counters Gorgon.
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Looking for Evolve CDKEY
find two very cheap and similar options
option 1:
>DE online shop
>6,00€
option 2
>UK ebay shop
>6,09€
Both claim it's a cdkey only
>welp I don't want to give money to those filthy germans, I'll go with the uk one
>mfw they are indeed selling a cdkey but they are delivering it at your home with standard mail (postcard like)
>mfw I could've spent 9 cents less and I could've got the key already if I didn't sperg out
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>>148316020
Doesn't Acid Spray damage prevent Plasma Lance from getting stacks?
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>>148316029
Wow u sure didn't compromise ur shitty ideals
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>>148316112
Yes, but Acid Spray on Lennox means you aren't killing that Medic any time soon. You basically have to spam Spider traps on the Lennox while you kill the medic or support and hope the Lennox player is a retard that can't kill them.
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>>148315930
Gorgon is the best fight for Lennox after Goliath

>>148316112
No, only direct damage does
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The global tracker has completely robbed the game of the stealth element it had.

Playing the monster is a matter of just getting away from the hunters, clearing as much distance as possible until stage 2 and that's when you turn around and attack. If it's a good team, you might have to continue running and take them at stage 3. That's it, no cat and mouse stealth gameplay any more. The main game mode shouldn't be called hunt it should be called chase.
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>>148316205
You can still sneak around as soon as the scan ends to get to the other side of the hunter team
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>>148316205
yeah I wish we had to examine monster poo to find our prey before we, the hunters, become the hunted
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>>148316205
I'm okay with the global tracker but it needs to be on a much longer cooldown.
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>>148316327
This, it should be up to 35 or at least 30 from current 20. The shitty part is that the longer it's in the game like this, the more people (especially new players) will be learn to rely on it, and when it finally gets fixed everyone is going to throw a massive shitfit and complain that the game is too hard and there will probably be a huge exodus of players
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What happens if I'm Lennox and the monster is Kraken?
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>>148316280
>entire comment
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>play slim
>slide FOV to 120
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>max feeding speed
>laz on the enemy team
>just kill them one by one because they have no heals and then eat their corpses so laz can't revive them
cool character lol

>>148316474
dome intelligently and hope your trappers are good
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>>148292501
Thats pretty fucking hardcore dude.
Crow does that?
How far was he, how did you make the shot?
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>>148316474
better luck next time, grandma
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>play EMET
>have friends dome monster
>sit outside dome and put your buoys on the outside of the dome
>have teammates stand there and get healed through the dome
>laugh as the monster can't destroy your buoys from inside
>if they run away and hide their timer goes down
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>>148316327
Yeah that's it really, give it a similar cooldown to the dome and it would make much more sense. It's not like the hunters can't manage without a "show me the monster" ability they can spam. I was in the top 50 monsters in the world on the leader-board before and towards the end of the game's life-span (before it went f2p) the hunter teams were getting exceptionally good and they were fucking me up without a global scanner. Hunters actually used to use tracking darts extremely fucking well if they were good and could basically keep me spotted just as much if not more than the global tracker does now, except the global tracker involves absolutely no skill at all.
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>>148316417
I doubt it will die nearly as much as it did a few months after it released.
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>>148316586
>I was in the top 50 monsters in the world
lay down some knowledge senpai, get me good
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>>148298613
The monster had 8% damage reduction perk so it canceled out.
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>>148316280
>hurr i get bored when I can't find the monster
I played against teams before the game went f2p that could pretty much keep me tracked the whole match, you're just fucking bad if you need the scanner.
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>>148316693
Would be cool if after the game you could look at other players stats including what perks they picked

Also bring back the map

This game could be so so so much better about presenting information it's actually insane
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>fighting a stage 3 Kraken
>2 bars of hp left
>he downs 3 of us and retreats
>instead of resurrecting our assault just charges towards him and dies

when do people get good?
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>>148316749
I played a team like that earlier, they were on me the entire time. I got domed twice before even getting to stage 2.
I won anyway because they split up expecting me to try and get Stage 3, so I ambushed the Medic and Trapper and downed them before the Assault and Support showed up.
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>>148316749
calm your tits, spergmeister

your dead version of the game is not coming back
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>>148316564
>>148316517
Seriously? Simply playing Kraken almost entirely neutralizes Lennox?
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As Abe I love the tracking dart
you just need one hit and you can keep him logged for the whole game if you stay on his arse enough.
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>they're probably going to nerf the val sunny grif godcomp soon
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I don't know what the fuck happened but I was regening armor super fast as behemoth in a match I just had

I'd get hit and in a few seconds my armor would start regening almost immediately
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>>148316664
Well I'm having to adapt to how the game has been re-designed, I could have told you plenty about how to beast as the monster in the old version but the game has changed a lot since then.

Using the bog skin as golioth for extra camo used to be an incredibly effective strategy, well you can forget that now.

The best way to play as the monster right now is to use all 3 perk slots for movement speed perks, use the start of the game to get as much distance as you can from the hunters, and then just run circles around the edges of the map, eating along the way until stage 2. Turn around at stage 2, attack them, if they're fucking you up, retreat so you can get stage 3 to finish them off.
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>>148316892
>Playing a long range flying monster neutralizes the close range brawling hunter

Gee, who would have guessed?

>>148316952
I had that earlier too. I had no idea what the fuck was going on.
>Get armor broken sound
>look up
>Armor pops from 0 to 70% instantly
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>>148316807
I'm chill, just saying you only get bored trying to find the monster because you're bad at tracking the monster. Other, better hunters from back in the day would laugh at how shit you are.
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>>148316892
It's not nearly as bad as you/other people are making it out to be. Pretty much every assault excels at close-range, Kraken is a unique challenge that every assault character needs to deal with.
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>Be clever, create circle of footprints and then immediately turn 90 degrees to send hunters on wild goose chase
>Game starts
>They know my location instantly
Oh yeah I forgot. Could we at least not let the hunters use the tracker for the first like, 30 seconds of them being spawned in? I get for like the Wraith and Kraken they have no issues but the Goliaths get tracked one time and if you slip up you're fucking done unless the enemy team is retarded. Speaking of retarded.

>Following monster footprints
>See monster
>See "Don't Split Up!" message
>Check map
>Nobody is near me
>Some players are running away from where the monster is
What's the point of the global tracker if people don't fucking look at it anyways?
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>Wraith S tier again

How
What did they fuck up this time
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Why can't I hear anyone on voice chat? People are talking, but I get nothing. My voice chat volume is set at max and I can hear all other game sounds.
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>>148317069
Why are you projecting and assuming all this negative "hurr durr you have to suck" if I don't hate on the new design that will keep the game afloat rather than the old model which most people did not like? You're so angry and frustrated and toxic. It has to come from somewhere. Share your feelings with us.
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>Have melee-based brawler hero
>3/4 available monsters have some form of flight
She needs a grappling hook to drag her to the monster and latch onto it.
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>>148317002
they better fix that quick because there's no way hunters can win if you can regen armor like that right in front of them

I actually don't think monsters should regen armor passively unless they get the buff
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>>148317195
Uhh, no, it's actually the Trapper's responsibility to get them down to the ground for you. Hyde also performs piss poor against airbornes.
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>>148317104
It should be on cooldown as the game starts.

That alone would make it much better.
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>>148317195
There's a bunch of shit like that in the game though. Some hunters are just garbage against certain monsters and practically unable to do anything.
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>Get wiped by stage 1 wraith and kraken
>Realise it keeps happening
>Realise it happens every fucking time I join a pub

Also, do Abe's grenades do fuck all against wraith?
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>>148317287
>Wraith decoys
>Watch as the assault chases after it, causing two other players to chase it
>Lose

>Kraken does a giant fucking thunderbolt, literally the most dramatic and highly telegraphes ability in the game
>Allies don't even make the attempt to avoid getting hit by it

Being F2P brought the game to life, but now it suffers the curse of the F2P playerbase.
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>>148317256
>Abe free week

Flying monsters all day every day.


Oh boy I can't wait for wraith free week. People will be forced to work together.

>>148317287
Not really. They're only noticeable while climbing walls. They're not useless though so keep using them.

If your team spreads out and you have a wraith slowed in an open area you CAN kill it. The balls work against the clone well enough too.
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>>148317287
Not really. Abe's grenades are pretty shitty against kraken too for that matter.
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>>148317413
Abe's grenades bring the kraken down to the ground...
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>>148317448
Since when? I hit a kraken in the face with a grenade and it hung in the air last game, but the kraken flew away.
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>>148317405
>Kraken free week is coming
>Meanwhile my Assault just got trapped in a plant
>Look at distance
>200
Haha what the fuck
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>>148317192
>the old model which most people did not like?
The only things most people didn't like about the old version was the fucking price tag and DLC, don't make shit up by saying the game died because of how the gameplay was designed, people fucking loved the way the game used to play.
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>play this game with 4 friends
>i'm the monster
>game starts
>they're standing next to me before i even get control of my character
>instant dome
>kill medic and wait for a bit then run away
>basically just run from them for some minutes before dying

whose idea was it to make the hunters start literally standing around the monster?
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>>148317492
Since the fucking game came out a year and a half ago

Of course he can fly away, every monster can traversal out of your slow, that is the counter to CCS

But if he doesn't have any traversals left, it will force him down to the ground pretty quickly, and unlike other monsters, Kraken traversal doesn't go very far, it's for getting in the air and not for covering ground so he has an even harder time getting out of your slow AoE
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Its a
>Laz screeches over the mic for bringing a piece of shit medic to the game
What the fuck is it even doing in the medic section? Laz seems much better fitting the support role, outside of his heal pulse hes fucking trash and useless. Pubs that bring him are unbearable
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>>148305380
he has the strongest heal burst in the game, 500 every 10 seconds
strikeless incaps still make him an incredible pub stomper, but he'll never work in competitive understand how to catch a sneaky laz

i'm still playing him after the out-of-left-field damage nerf because he's my highest win rate medic at 90%

i might even start running reload reductions since it also reduces the glove CD
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>>148317559
>people fucking loved the way the game used to play

all 200 of them
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>>148317581
That's not supposed to happen. Sounds like a bug.
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>>148317606
Nah I mean from launch up to death, hardly anyone complained about the design and the playerbase only fell off because they couldn't convince their friends to actually pay for the fucking game and its dlc.
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>>148317581
NIGGA YOU HIGH THAT'S THE TUTORIAL
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>>148317705
We all already did the tutorial then started the real game.
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>Win a ranked game
>People are angry at me in Russian after the game
Awkward.
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>>148316914
>playing gombedidive in a casual game
I bet you also are a professional overwatch player
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>>148317831
I'm tired of every game being a stomp in the normal queue. I figure there will actually be some competition in ranked.
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>>148317602
I just had a game against a Laz who revived a downed assault while cloaked. I didn't even know he could do that. Cost me the game.
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>>148317702
This, I loved the game and was happy to pay $60 for it, even that's a huge stretch for most people though and having to pay for new characters on top of it was fucking bullshit. That plus lack of players is what made me quit. The only people who thought the game was boring were the people who played for one or two days and didn't bother to learn anything about the game, just followed the monsters tracks like chickens and then complained about it being a running sim and quit.
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>tfw just won against a wraith

things are looking up
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>>148316176
>t. Merkel-enabler
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>>148317514
>Meanwhile my Assault just got trapped in a plant

I hate this design

It reminds me way too much of left4dead with how hunters and smokers could CC you until death
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>>148317907
yeah well you got buggered from not knowing, trust me hes trash. Little to no healing, if you just hit him and get rid of him first the rest will very easily crumble. I can guarantee you in alot of games, if someone brought a Caira/Val instead of Laz, monsters would lose a bit more. Its hurt by the fact that losing downed players deactivates the dome too so lazarus' best part, the endurance aspect of his rez is totally lost upon being ABLE to use it. I dont even know why the fuck they left him in the roster in this state
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a lot of these skins seem kinda shitty

why would I want to be pink or gold? I don't want people to see me from a mile away
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>>148318080
Same here. After playing it so much It's pretty easy to know what to do as assault. You basically just stay on the fucker even through splits and use your shield if he pounces you. You CANT let his armor regen or it's game.
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>>148317907
Don't even try to take Laz, I'm a veteran monster and I made eating hunter bodies a muscle memory reflex action from when the player-base were loving Laz back in the day.
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>>148318516
swag > functionality or stealth
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>>148318516
Doesn't really matter when the hunters have an ability that can find you anywhere on the map with a 20 second cooldown.
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>>148318516
i was thinking the same thing
i used the silver one for goliath tho
it works in the ice map
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>Monster goes wraith
>Everyone leaves the game
Enjoy your bots.
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>>148319110
but muh challenges
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>>148319110
Wraith aint even that hard, her supernova only lasts like 5 seconds now. Wraith a shit.
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>Decide to be bucket
>gorgon

FUCK
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>>148318621
Except damage interrupts your eating. Even with +120% feeding speed it's pretty hard to do unless you're wraith and abducted the body to somewhere far
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>>148319302
You can clone and eat pretty easily.
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I feel like the trick to being good with monsters is to just bail for the relay if shit gets tough.

Also, don't try to stage 1 wipe unless you're really good.

>inb4 kraken shitter
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>>148319302
You'd be surprised how often hunters just give up a fight and try to get some distance if one of their team member die, it seems like an instinctive reaction a lot of the time, they all expect you to go after one of them next so they all run off to regroup somewhere.
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>>148306059
nigger, this happns sometimes
just open task manager and close it again and you can watch your homo porn while game loads
is this your first PC?
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>>148306059
Why not just use the steam overlay web browser?
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>>148319302
If you eat a bar it stays it eaten
you don't need eat both bar at same times, just one a time, then fight, keep an eye for laz, go back to eat while their gone
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>>148319401
>Kraken gets to stage 2 uncontested because its a fast fucker
>Kills us in a matter of seconds
Jesus christ.
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>>148319401
Uh Kraken is like B tier now so people can't bitch about you winning as him.

The strongest Monsters right now are Wraith and Gorgon.
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>tfw the only thing stopping you from becoming sanic is animals getting in your way

I got fucked over by a tiny fucker while making my great escape, made me lose all my momentum
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>>148319345
>>148319469
>>148319548
The hunter needs to be completely dead to be eaten tough. Laz is most annoying when reviving from incap without strike not from dead.
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Reminder that the old steam group is defunct, due to poor moderation. The chat is dead because all of the active chat users converged over to the new steam group where they will not be banned at all unlike in the old steam group.

The new steam group is "/evog/ - Evolve General" and it can be found at http://steamcommunity.com/groups/evolvevg

I'm not intending to cause drama, but the anon shilling his discord link refuses to put the new group link in the OP.

On that note, people in the steam group who are quite adept at the game are considering putting guides / pastebins in the OP. Any opinions on this?
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>faggot monster in on a 13 streak
>he's about to die
>entire team gets dc'ed
what a coincidence
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>everyone complaining about wraith being OP
>they buff its health by thousands and increases cooldowns by 1 second

Really
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>>148319708
>Any opinions on this?
Opinions on what? Of course there should be guides and pastebins in the OP. What does that have to do with your group?
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>>148319817
read the patch notes again fucboi
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>>148319836
People in the group will write them as long as some chucklefuck doesn't force a new thread that only advertises his discord with the old thread's OP copypasted on top of it.
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>>148319668
If the hunter isn't dead then I stay on him, guarding him like a gorilla guarding a banana and wait until he's dead, and then eat him.
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Would stacking mutated+evolved claw on wraith be crazy good or what? I know cooldowns are great but extra 4% of hunter HP damage per second for 3s is not too shabby either
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>>148319904
Right, the health was decreased, not increased

Even then, will reducing maximum health by 1000 and increasing cooldowns by 1 second make any tangible difference?

>they nerfed gorgon heavily too
Fucking gay
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>>148319708
The game has had a complete redesign, veteran monster experience is almost worthless now because most of the skill involved in monster play revolved around setting up ambushes and stealth. All that's gone.
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>>148319559
>Be hank
>suddenly kraken can't do damage to single targets.

Just don't group up.
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>>148320129
Yeah to be honest I had a really shitty team that grouped up in a cave.
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>>148319985
It's pretty nice

I get the Damage Reduction perk and then Mutated+Evolved Claws
2 Decoy
2 Super Nova
hide in close quarters and kill everyone in S1
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>>148320047
Theres also hunters to consider, and while certain factors such as stealth are indeed gone as you said, people returning to the game have some common knowledge of how to run monsters as well as map knowledge.

I wouldn't mind seeing a guide on perk picking and essential skillsets for certain monsters. when you think about how many people ask "How do I gorgon" or "skills for wraith?" on a daily basis.
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>>148320047
Not him but there are still very important and relevant concepts like how to fight as monster or as hunter, positioning, jet pack management, map control, where to dome and where not to dome, how to fight against specific monsters etc
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>>148320169
Yeah, a dome in a wrong spot can be pretty much gg.

Likewise a single mistake by the medic or support can be gg.
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>>148320186
Does the decoy proc the claw DoT too?
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>>148319564
Where is this tier list? I would like to see.
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>>148320351
Not sure, actually
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>Bot hunters
Holy shit why, they're fucking useless and buggy, they just keep teleporting on the spot.
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>>148320047
>veteran monster experience is almost worthless now because most of the skill involved in monster play revolved around setting up ambushes and stealth


No it didn't. Stop talking out your ass.

Tired of this, "I'm a vet because I played the alpha/beta" nonsense.
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>won first two games as monster without doing tutorial
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>game has cool characters
>almost no fanart that isn't cookie cutter monster r34
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>>148320439
Google Evolve Metabase
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>>148320834
To be fair, the first games are monster sided simply because most hunters won't know to use their survivability tools or keep their distance at all.
I'm 15 hours in and I still have trouble managing my jetpack when the monster decides he wants my ass for dinner.
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>Person doesn't get their first preference
>They leave
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>>148320592
Yes it did my little f2p shitter. Actually attacking a fully prepared group of hunters head-on was seen as a fuckup, but now it's pretty much unavoidable as the monster because the game has been made so much easier for hunters. Two entire monster mechanics, sniffing and stealth-mode, were focused around playing the game with stealth, now they're almost fucking useless. Doing things like hiding in a bush, waiting for hunters to unknowingly walk past you or circling around a small rock as they pass so they don't see you while you're sniffing used to happen quite regularly. Stealth and ambushing were big parts of the monster gameplay and now it's fucking gone entirely.

Why do you think there's an attack called a stealth pounce in the game? The monster was expected to wait until the team has split up so you could ambush hunters without them having a hope of being rescued in time.

F2p babbies must be appeased in the meantime I guess with their spammable "show me the monster" button. Maybe they'll nerf it over time.
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>>148320980
I found that dodging against monsters is a waste overall, it's much better to use short bursts of vertical movement, that shit avoids 90% of the attacks
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>be monster
>want to go stealth and be creative
>PLANETARY SCAN
>decide to use this to my advantage
>wait until it wears off and hide
>I'm Gorgon so it's pretty easy, I just need to stick to a very high wall
>I do that
>Hunters are passing by
>PLANETARY SCAN

Why is this shit allowed? Fuck, increase that shit's cooldown, at least while the monster is at stage 1
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>>148321208
Because f2p hunter shitters would cry and get bored because of how bad they are.
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>>148290113
>but right now 18k peopl are playing it.
>peak is 52k
>average is 23k

You guys should change the op...
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>>148321045
I usually pick medic or support almost 90% of the time I get it. Either way its a win. I do have on occasion I get monster even though its my last preference which makes no sense to me when some picked prefer monster.
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>>148321048
>mfw eventually came to realize that rushing stage 3 was an awful idea against certain hunter comps because you'd just lose in the relay fight without strikes
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>>148321264
>>148321048
Sure, you were one of the 70 people that were stupid enough to pay $60 for a game that was launched with two season passes, we get it already.
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>strongly dislike gameplay, community of Evolve
>swear it off, try out stage two
>rocketpack mechanic still feels like being a fly in a jar of honey
>all right, it's better, but still meh
>surpised to see an Evolve general
>read around 7 posts before realizing every word in the thread is written by the devs
>post profane wisdom
>go to bed with a deep sense of peace
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Planetary Scanner IS kinda fucked, I mean Wraith/Gorgon are supposed to be stealth/surprise assault characters but with the scanner almost always on, you never get the chance these days.

Should be an Elusive perk that makes Planetary Scanner take longer to cool down and also make it active shorter.
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>>148321409
Sounds like an awesome life you got right there.
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>>148321336
>wahhh stop calling me bad I'm the best hunter in the world wraith nerf when reeee xD the global tracker is totally balanced and I am a good player :^)
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>i get monster
>dodge

:)
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>>148321208
>be hunter
>it's a sneaky monster
>only one to check at the bottom of cliffs or behind pillars
>find the monster as my team boost away 9 times out of 10
>by the time I tell them to get their ass over here on voice chat he knows I know and it's a coin flip whether he uses transversals and I can dome him safely and boost away or he rapes my aware ass
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>>148321482
>I get Hunter
>Dodge

Fuck this matchmaking system I used to be able to roll Monster all day. I just don't like the gameplay from the Hunter perspective.

>Having to rely on 3 other retards

NEVER EVER
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>>148321472
Join me anytime, my dude
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>>148321461

How is the scanner fucked? It can be abused and you regen armor by doing nothing outside of dome so they can't harass you from range. If you get domed stage one you have to down one hunter or lose one chunk of health and you're good to go to escape to the other side of the map without punishment and evolve. New dome sucks dick.
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>>148321627
The scanner kills basically any potential for surprise attacks or juking.
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>>148321475
What are you on about? I am >>148321208 , not whoever you were replying to previously.

>>148321505
How can you even be sneaky anymore? It is especially impossible if the trapper has the class ability cooldown reduction perk, you will be under planetary scan literally around 35% of the time. Stealth is killed in this game, now it is just a matter of "can I just be faster than hunters by using transversal and survive the inevitable dome encounters if they are not shitters"

I understand this mechanic if the monster is at stage 2, but not stage 1
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>>148321409
The fuck are you smoking dude. The game is in top 10 played games on Steam. No shit it has a general and people talking about it.
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>wraith is in the open in a cave
>tell them not to dome here because she wants us to
>trapper domes anyway
>benny hill with decoy while looping around the arena
>if I don't chase the real one he channels armor
>if I want to chase the real one I have to spend boost
>after 3 minutes of that, overspend my pack
>she holds me down and rapes me in a corner while the rest of the hunters start arguing that she's playing like a pussy in all chat
Whyyy
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>>148321697
But what if I'm so bad that I can't find you without the scanner, even though many trappers have superior tracking abilities, what then? Am I supposed to just get better at the game or something? Pah! Fuck that! I love my "show me the monster" button!
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>remember enjoying the beta days, enjoyed it but didn't buy because lol DLC
>it goes free to play, I download it
>expect careful games where hunters track down monsters all across the map as monsters avoid them until at least evolve 2, if not 3
>instead get casualized mobashit where the fight starts almost immediately after drop and you're forced to win at evolve 1 as monster

Nice to see they completely destroyed their game.
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>>148321627
>remove planetary scan
>make dome not wear off no matter how much damage monster takes (but do make it wear off faster if monster downs someone)
>make the monster leave more traces behind so it is easier to track it
>rename trappers to trackers and give them a tracking tool (one that isn't fucking global scan wallhack, something subtle and that requires skill to use)

There your game is fixed. Alternatively just make planetary scan unavailable or on very high cooldowns (180 seconds) during stage 1.
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>>148321048
>Someone spent time to type this paragraph of pure unadulterated drivel

I have PCMR nob.

Any tard can watch an ESL video and realise you're full of shit
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>>148321697
You can still juke between scans but it just gives you only like 40s which is still good feeding time. Yeah, you can't evade hunters completely for the whole game but juking is still useful.
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>>148321826
How can't you find me though? I'm literally a gigantic monster spamming tons of particles around the map. If anything, sounds should travel farther n shiet.
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>>148321810
Can't you remove the dome?

I swear I was playing today and held F for whatever reason after doming the monster, and the "Removing dome..." action appeared, I immediately let go of F but even then. And I wasn't even the trapper, I was the medic.

Never seen that before, anyone got more info on this? Sounds like you could have removed the dome in that situation anon.
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>>148321712
Maybe follow the reply chain next time? I was making a very specific point about the game design was better before f2p and how the game has been made 100x easier for hunters thanks to the global tracker. If anything, you're actually agreeing with me if >>148321208 is you.
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>>148321878
>but it just gives you only like 40s which is still good feeding time

Scan is 30 seconds cooldown. It can be ~17 seconds cooldown with perks. You cannot juke against that.
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>>148321697

If anything it encourages juking. People will blindly go the direction it showed them. All you have to do is not move much during the 4 second scan duration so they can't tell which direction you're going. Then you sneak past them and head to the other side of the map while they wait for the scan to come up just to find out they are 300 meters away.
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>>148321461
Scanner should be a 40 second cooldown minimum.
Make it give the whole team a speed boost instead of just the trapper, but only when moving roughly in the direction of the monster.

This makes trapper abilities like soundspikes actually useful for finding the monster again instead of just for wallhacks in dome, and hopefully means that a strategy other than "run to the other side of the map and eat, repeat" is worth doing.

There are probably dome changes to be made, too, but with the current focus on fighting rather than stealth/tracking its tough to come up with anything that wouldn't be too strongly favored in either direction.
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>>148321461
Why would you ever stealth as wraith?

Just go kill the hunters when they drop out of the ship, there's no need to play it out.
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>>148321712
90% of hunters don't look at the bottoms of cliff or check tunnels properly. Most of them also feel like "planetary scanner active = Oh shit gotta spend all my boost" which results in being near your corner of the map, and they almost always try to cut you off because following footprints is too slow. In fact, my most effective jukes have been just turning around when it ends or going up a cliff hunters just boosted off of.
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>>148321969
No I am not.

Sure, the game was better f2p, but your jerkish attitude is disgusting.

"Look, I'm a complete idiot that sucks corporate dick hahaha you plebs :3"
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>>148321857
Great point there, you really debunked what I said in detail.

Only joking; you're a mong
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>>148321943
You can, but you might as well try to play the clock if the monster isn't intent on raping your team right now. I only remove dome when a retard entered it in a dead end and removing it is the only way to give him an escape route.
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>>148321994
Maybe because I like the idea of being hunted down while I sway my alien booty from side to side?
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>>148322030
I'm always scared of staying below cliffs and then climbing it again because of how fucky dome is. As a hunter I've domed monsters without even having them in my sight before.
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The shit? The after game map replay thingy is still there? I saw it for like 3 seconds suddenly and then it was gone.
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>>148322153
Yes, but it was deactivated because it's buggy as a result of the map modifications.
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does the reload perk affect the passive recharge of all 1-3 abilities, or only guns and/or only if you press the relaod button?

in short does it affect healing guns and hank's shield?
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>>148322139
You don't actually need them in sight, do you?

It pops up regardless whether or not they're actually there, doesn't it?
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>>148320980
>won first hunter game without tutorial
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>>148322053
How the fuck am I sucking corporate dick at all? I'm shitting on them now more than ever because of the negative changes they've made to game design. If they didn't change anything I wouldn't bother with calling anyone a f2p shitter but in this case the distinction does need to be made; those who bought the game played a harder; better game.
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>>148321970
They scan while you're at crossroads. You go one way for the few seconds the scan is active. Once it's gone you turn the other way and burn all your traversals in the other direction. The hunters go in the wrong way for 20s. Once the scan is online again they use it and see they were juked but they have to backtrack for 20s to get to where they were before. You got 40s of time and the hunters are back where they were before. You do another juke now.
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>>148322093
>only joking

Pointing towards hundreds of hours of high level play which goes completely against your retarded statement is debunking you, faggot.
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>>148322221

Reload = 1-3
Cooldown = 4
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>>148322239
Your traversals leave tracks, even Goliath leap. It doesn't work, at all.
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>>148322238
You bought a game that was released with two season passes. You are the cancer that is killing the game industry because you support extremely shitty corporate practices. Even the normies didn't buy Evolve.

Also

>it was better before f2p
Sure, that is your opinion and the opinion of the other 49 people that played with you, right? Over 10k people bought it and only 50 sticked to playing it, there's no excuse.
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>>148322252
Would you care to show me an example of a game from before f2p where the monster played like a cumbersome fucking idiot and never bothered with stealth? Stealth played a big part of EVERY SINGLE match. You're the fucking retard for not seeing that after watching hundreds of hours of gameplay your dribbling cretin.
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>>148322302
The hunters don't follow your tracks. They try to cut ahead to where they think you're going. They'd never catch you if they were following tracks since you're much faster.
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>>148322239
What are you on about? If I had 40 seconds to move free after a scan, I wouldn't be complaining. But that's not reality.

The cooldown is 30 seconds and you remain scanned for 5 seconds. That gives you 25 seconds.

If the trapper has perks, the cooldown is 17 seconds, so you have 12 seconds.

You can't fucking stealth like this. It is not worth the effort at all.

>get scanned
>leave fake prints during the first 5 seconds
>hide
>hunters arrive 10 seconds later
>takes them 10 seconds for a safe distance to be created between you and them so the fucky dome doesn't get you despite not even being on their field of view
>PLANETARY SCAN

And that is assuming no perks.
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>>148322419
>The hunters don't follow your tracks
Yes they do.
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>>148322385
https://www.twitchDOTtv/esl_evolve/profile

Go nuts fuckhead
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>>148322520
If they follow your tracks they will never catch you since you're much faster. Just run circles around the map.
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>>148322596
That's exactly what you do retard. There is zero point in stealth because the Hunters always know where you are, so you just run circles around the map and rely on being faster.
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>>148322645
Maybe below rank 10. Better hunters will just cut ahead of you and easily catch up.
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>>148322596
>they can't catch you because they don't follow your tracks! the only way to catch you would be following your tracks!
>but they do follow your tracks...
>they can't catch you because they follow your tracks! the only way to catch you would be not following your tracks!

(You)
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>>148322367
>there's no excuse.
There is, turtlerock were being shitty and were taking forever to actually release new shit and keep the game updated and it's going to happen again with stage 2. The game died not because of the design of the core gameplay but everything surrounding it. No updates, no new content, no new maps, fuck all but a bunch of e-sports promotion.

Now the game is going to approach death even quicker than before because it's the same shitty devs at the helm but now with worse gameplay and less game-modes, and now a bunch of f2p shitters who will defend dumb changes to the core game design.

Yeah f2p is so much better with is 1 fucking game-mode.
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>>148322715
No, better hunters just camp the relay and wait out the clock because even if you stage 3 and attack them you're fucked unless their Medic and Support have penalties unless you're Wraith or Elder Kraken.
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>>148322540
Wow dude once again you're just picking what I say apart aren't you? You're really going into detail about how wrong I am.

Nah actually you're a useless know nothing cunt.
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>>148322786
>the game died because of lack of new content
Blatantly wrong, I've looked up how much shit was released thorough one year. Not to mention the shittons of DLC that you probably bought like the good goy you are. Why do you lie in the Internet anon?

>f2p has just one game mode!
They literally said all the content from pre-f2p will be in the f2p eventually, this is just the beta and they wanted to get the ball rolling early.

Either way, what are you doing here? Don't you have to buy Battleborn or something?
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What's the best trapper for pubs?
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>>148322918
Griffin. Abe is also good so long as you spam stasis grenades.
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>heal a shitload as medic
>almost win by about 1% health left on monster but lose anyway
>get 30 bucks

This grind man.
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>>148322918
Abe

>keep the monster under a pseudo planetary scan 24/7 if you know what you are doing
>keep monster slowed 24/7 during fights so your teammates can dodge even if they are bad
>can even dish very decent damage every now and then

No downsides at all, I'm surprised he wasn't nerfed
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All current FREE WEEK heroes are priced at 2750 (along with Sgt. Hank).

Is this just a coincidence, or they have an intentional discount like this? I've seen no mention of this anywhere from the devs, and I'm thinking of buying Caira while she's cheap, if this is the case.
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>>148322876
Get stage 3
Attack them at relay.
Down support and/or medic.
Retreat to get armor back up.
Repeat until they're dead.
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>>148322717
No one is saying the hunters will catch you every time. Its pretty easy to run until you can hit stage 2 against most of the hunters, it just isn't entertaining at all.
You spam traversals away from spawn, eat a bit, spam more traversals away from where you were pinged, eat some more, repeat, repeat, evolve.
There's no thought involved. If they get close, juking is just spamming traversals away from them with a rock between you.
Once in a while they manage to cover all your exits and you get domed, and then you either get a down or two or lose a couple bars of health and start again.
There's really no advantage to hiding your location at all, and its fucking boring.
At least the fights are fun.
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>>148322976
buy the game for 6/8 eurobucks and avoid pretty mcuh al lthe grind
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>>148323015
We're talking about good hunters.
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>>148323010
Meteor Golly is at 6500.
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>>148323027
Can you link where I can get the game for 6 euro?
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>>148323010
Hank is 5500, those hunters are simply the best in their categories for newer players (except for caira since she actually needs aiming)
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>yfw your assault get caught by a plant and a megamouth within 2 minutes
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>>148323025
>it's easy to run until you hit stage 2 against most hunters

Once again, no, it isn't. Not as long as you are under planetary scan for 20% of the game (or 40% if the trapper has perks)

You are assuming that the hunters are braindead and will all walk together while either following your tracks brainlessly or trying to guess where you are.

But they can actually do both if they split in two groups.

Or do even more and pretty much wall up the map if they all split individually. You'd need stealth to overcome hunters that play like this, but any attempt of stealth is interrupted by planetary scan.
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>>148323054
I'm talking about a good monster.
Or are you saying it's impossible to get a single down at stage 3 on relay?
If the hunters are that much more skilled than monster they will win no matter what they do. They could dome the monster on stage 1 and just kill it to make it faster.
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>>148322889
>Show me an example
>Here's an example, he's fucking dozens of examples
>Woah dude, and example? Dude wow, really?

You're DSP levels of retarded.

STEALTH AND AMBUSH WAS NOT A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN ORGANISED AND COMPETITIVE PLAY.

At all times the hunters would know exactly where the monster was. You don't know shit about shit you little shitter.
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>>148323112
ebay /itm/400753412610
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>>148322917
Yeah great about 5 hunters and 2 monsters, one of those monsters released after the game had pretty much already died, all of which had to be paid for. People also had to wait fucking ages for behemoth.

I love how you're complaining about the DLC and then turning around and acting like it wasn't the company but instead the core game design itself that killed the game.
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>>148323208
Against a competent premade that knows their shit with a good hunter comp, who are picking the ground to their advantage, no, you're not getting a down at stage 3 before losing a whole lot of health unless you're Wraith or Elder Kraken
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>>148323329
Reddit is full of people like you, except for they would say that being a hunter was extremely boring since most monsters would never be caught.

You are literally among the 7 people that liked the game
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>>148323213
You've still failed to point out a single example of a game where stealth didn't play into it at all. Just show me literally any single match and I'd be able to point to numerous cases in a single match where the stealth mechanics are used as intended. You wont do it though because you know you're wrong. You'll know there would be moments of the monster pulling off amazing ambushes and sniff-sneaking around objects.
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>>148323431
I wouldn't know about that, I don't go to reddit, how do you know?
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>>148323596
I went to Reddit.
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>>148323624
So, in fact, reddit is full of people like you; people who go to reddit.

That's nothing like me.

Get rekt.
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>>148323340
Relay is neutral ground that doesn't favor either hunters or monster.
A good monster on stage 3 can burst down one hunter with a combo.
An average monster will get owned at relay yeah but a good one can win.
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>>148323685
You got me

Is your ego back to stable levels yet:
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>game wants you to spend half the match running around eating stuff to not suck dick
>hunters win automatically if time runs out

no wonder it's f2p
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>>148323503
>https://www.twitchDOTtv/esl_evolve/v/25751424

The first very first game. Team YP against TPA
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>>148323838
I've gone against level 27 hunters at level 16 while having the shitty starter perks. The regen or boost speed people get on jetpacks shits all over a no perk monster IF it's a premade at the relay.

It really all depends on how the round went. If the monster didn't get enough downs on the team then it's pretty much fucked.
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>>148323991
Except for you can easily kill the hunters at stage 1
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>>148324013
LMFAO that monster is just bad though, he got domed at stage fucking 1, fucking awful example of high level pre-f2p monster play.

This actually makes my point, stealth is necessary or you'll get fucked like the monster in this video.
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>>148324174
why would I do that when I can get huge and then kill them
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>>148324023
Well I run maxed perks and manage fine. When discussing balancing it's best to assume both sides are equally skilled and equipped. You'd get fucked up by those lv27 hunters no matter what they did.

They have to make the money somehow when it's f2p and jewing people for perks is gonna be one of the main ways to do it. Grab a founder key or you'll be struggling to win.
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>>148324279
Didn't you complain that you had to go around eating stuff to kill them?

I just said you don't really need to do that.
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>>148324306
Founders key only unlocks like 3 of the gold perks.
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>>148324174
You can easily kill the monster at stage 3

:^)
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>>148324321
Where did I complain about eating stuff
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>>148324346
Uh, >>148323991
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>>148324404
He's complaining about the timer
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>>148324446
How is that even a complaint? I've only ever seen hunters win because of timer once, you can very, very, very very easily get to stage 3 without worrying about the timer.
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>>148324493
Timers are gay and the monster lives there, the hunters literally get in a ship and fly away after the timer is up
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>>148324275
>That monster player for the second best team in the world is bad, when he's playing against the best team in the world!

Holy shit you are fucking dumb
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>>148324747
Maybe the power relay fucks the monster once the timer is over?
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>>148324776
No it doesn't.
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>>148324336
You earn your first 10k pretty quick so you can max a gold perk. Founders now also give 30k so you can get a lot of perks.
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>>148324775
Well this must be a fucking bad day for him because he doesn't even try to attempt getting outside of dome range in the first 30 seconds, he just fucks around eating a couple of things and then gets his shit promptly wrecked with little effort. This is not how he planned things at all I'm sure because things obviously didn't go his way.

So yeah, still a terrible example.
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>>148324883
How do you know it doesn't anon?
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>>148321048
>f2p shitter
more like B2P special snowflakes

stealth is bullshit with monsters
-monsters can eat almost instantly
-they can use their skills to kill animals (with as good as no cd)
-you can't catch a monster if you don't split up
-the smell is op

In the Hunt mode nerfing stealth is a great idea.

For special snowflakes like you they can add a stealth mode, which you can play against npcs, because no sane person wants to waste their lifetime to hunt a stealth autist.
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Fuck megamouths.
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>>148324956
If it did the monster would just fucking walk away anyway

and it's a power relay, it relays power, it's not a weapon
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>>148324948
I'm going to stop talking to you now, because you're blatantly fucking retarded.

You're actually trying to say that the monster for the second best team going against the best team of hunters is a bad example.
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>>148325132
I'm saying this specific match is a bad example yeah because it's so obviously one sided in this case. Guy didn't stand much of a chance at all, he cleared no distance and hardly even put up a fight, you can't tell me I couldn't have done better than him if I were in his position.
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>>148325058
Maybe there are reinforcements coming, your team of 4 people are just the first batch. If the monster kill you 4, it can easily destroy the power relay, and if it does that further reinforcements will be pointless since the monster already achieved its objective (Caira says the monster is OK with letting people escape alive, it really just wants to fuck up the power relay for some reason)
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>>148325037
And yet there were teams back in the day who could still beat me despite all that.

Sounds like you're fucking bad.
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rip wraith shitter
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How does Griffin's harpoon gun work? When I stick it into the monster, does it instantly stop him or does the rope have a certain length before the monster stops?

I often find myself penetrating his ass with my harpoon, only for him to walk a few metres after my medic. Will backpedaling help?
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Am i the only one who can't eat Trapjaws?
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>>148325532
No, they taste disgusting, so the monster will not eat them
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>>148325497
It only hinders his movement away from your. He can walk towards you just fine.

Keep the monster between yourself and his target.
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>>148325310
its awesome that many morons dont know about EMETs self-healing
everytime I get focused I run around in circles, spam buoys and healing bursts
some stage1 Wraith who wanted to down us early realised it too slow and already had 1/2 of his health gone
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>>148325532
No, they have high levels of sugar, so the monster will not eat them so to avoid diabetes.
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>>148325738
Kraken can go through the self healing, even with all regen perks.
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>>148316029
Little update: they sent me the key via email too. Yay my anti-german sentiment didn't cuck me this time
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>>148325782
Regen perks only work out of combat dumdum.
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>they NERFED the Behemoth

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFTHAHAHAHAA
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>>148325782
>getting hit by Kraken
then he deserved it
btw, as a medic you dont use regen perks, but cooldown reduction for some extra sweet healing bursts spam
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>>148321409
this post reads like the average /v/ post

>every thread discussing videogames is populated by shills

people like you are the reason /v/ is such an unpleasant board to browse these days, enjoy discussing pokemon go and overwatch until the end of time
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>behemoth rolls in a tunnel
>trapper follows him
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>>148326031
Welcome to stage 2, whiny hunter children welcome
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>>148326037

>cdr
>not 65% jetpack recharge rate
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>>148325880
Nope, work in combat.
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>>148326037
Healing cooldown perks maxed with both t2 and t3 reduces EMET's heal burst from 5 seconds to 4. Not worth it.
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>>148323137
in the beta I always baited people towards those giant crocodiles

I always got a kick out of engaging people with the croc on my side
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Are tranq darts hitscan or projectile? What about tracking darts?
Is it pinpoint accurate hipfiring?
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>>148326235
That's 25% more healing bursts.
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>>148326279
Hitscan.
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Why can't the monster eat those packs of dogs?
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>>148326327

cuz a cute
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>>148326327
They taste like shit.
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>>148319791
just happened to me.
Was it a wraith player?
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>>148326293
It's not worth it.

t.better EMET than you
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any elder kraken players here? i've been testing each of his abilities against bots since they have very consistent behavior. it seems like chain lightning is the weakest ability by far, and the other 3 are all pretty good, with lightning strike being slightly better than the other two

i was kind of surprised by the damage that death spiral was putting out. the best part about it was that it wastes jetpack fuel so you can land lightning strike
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>>148326371
FUCK THESE ASSHOLES

>kill a nice group of monkeys
>start eating
>before I finish one these fuckers come out of nowhere and start attacking me
>have to choose between killing them and risk getting caught by hunters or running

At least those stupid vultures don't spawn anymore, that shit was even worse since the hunters could see exactly where you are
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>>148326814

is a cute.
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>>148326814
Yes goy it's so much better now that we have a constant global scanner that can get spammed every 20 seconds hehehe don't forget to buy the BRAND NEW game modes coming soon!
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>>148326327
The are muslim
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>Beat periodic challenge
>Get 25 keys

Im getting some Hawken flashbacks here
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>>148326973
what if they brought back the birds too
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So are they going to darken the maps at some point? I remember seeing the videos of the initial release and all the maps were night time. The game would honestly be a lot better if it was darker.
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DER KOSTBARSTE BESITZ AUF DIESER WELT, ABER - IST DAS EIGENE STEALTH
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>>148327535
A dark as fuck map with flashlight would be dank
I remember the power plant was a bit like this
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Just got founders and found that almost everything is unlocked now, should I spend my dosh on perks?

And if so, which ones?
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>>148327643
Your characters all have flashlights, it's just irrelevant because every map is so bright.
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>>148327739
the best thing is that you also drop cards
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>>148327643
>>148327747
Everyone would just crank all their brightness and gamma options to the maximum anyway.
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>>148326696
Chain lightning is godlike. The initial lightning circle has a small radius but if you get at least one person into it the additional chain have much longer range and each one deals increasing damage. If you hit all 4 hunters it's like 2k damage total.
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>>148327853
You can get around this as a developer.by using fog, rain and particle effects to effectively block line of sight beyond what's intended. The game already does this actually, which is why I was asking. The game has a fog of war effect that is very close compared to what Cry3 is capable of, so I assumed the maps were intended to be darker.
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>>148327931
Elder kraken is retarded
You get punished for assault being in his face
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>>148327408
wasnt the lowest amount you got 50 and the update was suppose to make it so its 120 now?
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>>148328058
The challenges that pop up every 30 minutes weren't changed, it's the daily challenges that are up to 150.
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>>148328006
Elder Kraken is a noobstomper, crazy damage but immobile and predictable

I dont think he'll be worth anything at lvl 40
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What hunters do you even get when you buy the founder pack now?
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>>148328097
ah ok
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>>148327995
Hmm yeah I suppose they could implement a sort of dark, foggy map that could work. Also yeah I also miss power plant, that map was fucking dope.
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Do monsters still gain stamina from getting shot? I feel reluctant harassing an escaping monster as Assault because I might just make it easier for it to escape.
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>>148327931
not useful when trying to burst someone down though, since the first target only takes 200 damage, you can't dictate who takes the largest damage from the jumps, and it's easy to boost out of making it whiff completely. also every medic except val and laz have tons of AOE healing so it doesn't accomplish much
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>Have monster as lowest priority
>Get monster
>Leave game.

Am I terrible for doing this?

I've played monster twice, and playing the base monster with no perks isnt fun at all.

if 5 players all have monster set as their lowest priority, then those 5 players shouldnt be matched together.
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>>148328574
Only R.Val and Emet have real AoE healing. Caira can get two people with grenades sometimes but them bunching up like that for healing also means they get rekt by vortex and lightning. The first chain makes the medic use their heal burst and the second deals good damage across the team. It's also amazing if there are any downed hunters. You can get the first hit on the downed hunter and it will branch off easily after that.
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>>148328701
as I said various times: their current role selector doesn't make much sense anymore. It was useful when there were 200 people playing because you pretty much had to suck it up and play any role: being picky wouldn't let you play any match.
But with 30k players it's stupid that you don't let people play what they want.

They should just have a checklist of the roles
like What roles do you want to play?
>Medic
>Assault
>Monster
So don't feel bad for doing it. It's turtleshit's fault.
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>>148328701
Nah not really, I mean nobody wants to play in a match where people are half arsing it, ideally everyone should get their preferred position or people just wont be having as much fun.

I basically play nothing but the monster and I feel so bad when I end up on a hunter team sometimes because I'm really just not very enthusiastic when I play as them. In a game like this where everyone needs to be on point as the hunters and the monster needs to be trying to give them a good fight, it's better to try and get the position you prefer, it's better for everyone.
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>>148328861
after testing it out in arena, you're right about chain lightning. the wiki values are totally fucked up right now. it was doing 400-550 from the first hit to the final jump, whereas wiki said it's 220-550 at level 3
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>>148328519
I'm pretty sure they do. No point in firing on a monster if you're not going to break his armor and hit health as that armor will passive regen as soon as he breaks LOS.
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>>148329136
Monster armor passive regen outside of a dome is so small it's insignificant unless they're stacking perks, and if they're stacking armor regen perks they're retarded.
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>>148329118
Wiki is massively out of date now. It's still showing pref2p stats.
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Did original Evolve have fun modes? Or any custom content?
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>>148329292
There were other modes, they've been deactivated pending redesign alongside other maps because they made the maps bigger with the F2P release.
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>>148329354
>they made the maps bigger
They don't seem that much bigger, anyone got any comparisons?
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>>148329197
Firing your pellet gun across the map to do scratch damage isn't going to matter when the monster eats one animal and regens 1/4th of it's armor. If you aren't actively fighting the monster there is no point in damaging it's armor.
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>>148329292
>>148329354
the arena mode still exists at least, which is really fun for testing abilities. it puts you in a permanent dome with a monster at any stage of your choosing and you duke it out best of 3
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>>148329427
A direct hit from a primary weapon interrupt a monster eating actually.
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>>148329550
Only cabit can fire through walls. Only a shit monster would stop in LOS as it runs to kill and eat something.
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>>148329354
>>148329473
Were there ever any modes that increased the number of players or monster?
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>>148329679
With +120% feeding speed I actually sometimes stop in LoS at long distance. The few stray hits aren't enough to interrupt eating.
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Christ a good griffin is absolutely brutal. Just had one on my team who just kept harpooning a goliath over and over again until the goliath gave up and stopped moving.
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>>148325050
SERIOUSLY
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>>148330345
Maggie is pretty amazing for that too, spammed harpoons on a goliath and I made him so fucking mad he just focused entirely on me the whole fight until the others killed him.
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been playing for 5 hours and still no exp for my account level what the fuck is this shit
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how exactly did they nerf wasteland maggie? i hear you guys saying shes bad now but what happened?
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>>148330685
memes.
She's like maggie with a bit more of dmg and a bit less of utility
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>people leveling rick throw ever
My favorite thing is downing one player and hitting another and using charge/leap to jump back on whoever is trying to revive the downed player.
Eventually you just down them all and win
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>>148330345
>>148330424
I main play jack and I've heard multiple people tell me that a good jack is so much more ass to deal with then harpoons. Harpoon gets broken with one swing when repulse straight up cancels jumps and some attacks. Monster is either forced to stand still or turn around and run the other way.
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>>148330787
At some point Hunters learn not to run over and try and fucking revive while the monster is RIGHT THERE, right? Right..?
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>>148330782

>picking trapper for damage

rip your medic/support
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Cabot or Torvald?
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Can we talk about how EMET can sit outside a dome, deploy his buoys outside it, and heal you through the dome?
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>>148330987
video or it didnt happen
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>>148331009
It works you dumb faggot just get class cooldown perks, spread buoys out a bit, and spam heal burst.
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Capacity is good on Hank, right?
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You fags were saying perks don't stack but a guy I was playing with said that his ammo capacity definitely did. Who's lying?
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>>148331293
No, one retard was saying perks didn't stack and was promptly proven wrong when someone else posted a link to the forums where a dev confirmed that they do indeed stack.
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>>148331363
but they don't stack
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>>148330879
It's literally down someone, charge someone else, look behind myself, leap back, repeat.
Im new as fuck but undefined as monster so far.
This is in stage 1 too
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>>148331363
and it's extremely easy to test yourself. put one one capacity perk, look at how much ammo you have, put on all capacity perks, look at how much ammo you have
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>7 Win streak as a hunter
>in team with Kala
gg
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>>148331565
I know this fuck feel

>17 win streak as EMET
>join a team with a Kala
>decide to stay for some reason
>they teleport across the map while we dome the monster
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>>148330965
Hank.
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WHEN CAN I PLAY BEHEMOTH

I CAN ONLY PLAY SO MUCH WRAITH
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>>148330987
A not dumb monster will just go to the other end of the dome.
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>>148332176

And lose from timelimit. Very good monster.
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>>148332260
>die for sure in the dome fighting
>maybe lose from time limit later
???
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>>148331434
>>148331509
>So to clarify for you, yes, when triple stacking the same perk in the Perk Selection, the do stack. If you happen to get an Elite Wildlife that is a higher value than that Perk, that stat will replace with the higher value.

>https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/stage-2-how-does-perks-looks-like-now-in-terms-of-stacking-itself/88863/16
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>>148332360

>maybe

Certainly. New dome lasts 5 minutes if you don't do shit.
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>>148332260
It's only 5 mins, not to mention there's usually animals in the dome.
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anyone try the new jetpack dodge perk?>
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>elder kraken is floating around at normal speed
>use crow's stasis gun on him
>he begins floating around at 3x his normal speed without using traversals
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what are the most have perks that are essential for any hunter
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>>148332796

Can never go wrong with Jetpack Recharge Rate.
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Anyone know what Crow's unlock gold perks are?
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>>148290113

I'm doing pretty well as Meteor Goliath, but have been saving up for Wraith, should i just say fuck it and buy him out or is he not viable at higher levels?
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>>148333801
Wraith is OP and getting nerfed. Stick with Meteor Goliath, he's legitimately good without being imbalanced.
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>>148333850

Hurray I'm going to buy perks now!
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>>148317117
Same here, Fix anyone?
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>>148333885
>buying perks
Waste of money since you unlock them by leveling up characters.
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>>148333885
don't listen to >>148333850
monsters are not OP in anyway. this game favors hunters.
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>>148317117
>>148334130
Tell them to actually connect their mics
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>>148334174
Except some of the best perks are not on any unlock tree. Especially monster perks.
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Whats the Verdict on Emet?
Do people ever make use of his healing Buoys?
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>>148334235
This.

Turtlerock better start nerfing the global scanner before the new hunters start thinking this is good balance.

What the new players don't understand is that the older players didn't have to deal with all the advantages these new hunters have and yet people rarely complained about the monsters being OP. They complained about wraith at first because she genuinely was OP before she got nerfed, but after that there were basically no complaints about the core game design and the best hunters definitely weren't complaining. Hunters weren't asking for a global scanner or a dome to be given to every fucking hunter.

I can understand turtlerock wanting to ease in new players when faced with people who have been playing since the fucking beta, but as the new playerbase gets better they need to be nerfing all the advantages they've given them with stage 2.
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>>148334431
Other teammates can hear them, just not me
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>>148334963
the verdict is most people dont like him because he is not streight forward as Vel or Caira
people who can use this character kicking ass, though
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>>148334130
>>148317117
I found the solution, Have to run the game as Administrator and disable all other audio devices.
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new bread when?
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If domes are so strong why don't they just cover planets with them????
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>>148335714
>Every time someone dies their duration gets cut by 70%

hurr
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WHY the FUCK does the game keep starting with only 4 players in the lobby? Playing against Bot monsters is fucking stupid.
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New thread

>>148335942
>>148335942
>>148335942
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>>148335757
>4 people = 5 minutes of dome
>earth has a current pop of 7 billion
>7 billion x 1.25 = 16,648 years of dome
Wow!
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>>148336128
>One person dies
>Lose 70% of that
>Dome lasts less than a second
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>>148336195
25% of the Earth's population has to die, you mean. :)
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