/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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/rlg/ tip of the day:

>when you feel the heat, evoke your feet

That drawing is fucking awesome. I wish DND-manual-style art was more prevalent nowadays.

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And that's end my adventures in the hells. Now I have to complete tomb and the pandemonium floors.
But before that I need a way to obtain some cure mutation, because the hell effects malmutated me to no end.
Should I try going into a zigurrat to find some?

>>148132830
>-Tele

por que

>>148132904
I'm no pussy minotaur. In a fight, it's me or them, no running away.

I FUCK THE DUNGEON
I MAKE IT CUM
I FUCK THE DUNGEON WITH MY NAGA TONGUE

>>148132904
>muh 0.5 auts

Is there a cap to maximum mana? or can i reach huge amounts of it with an octopode with only rings of magical power?

>>148133484
There used to be a soft cap around 52, but it seems to be higher now.

Try wizmoding it.

>>148133745
It seems they either removed it or made it very very high.
Reached more than 150 MP on an Octopode with all magic power rings and +9 MP Hat and shield and Staff of power, level 27 and 27 spellcasting.

I'm seriously thinking of making a PURE MANA octopode with an amulet of spirit shield, would it make Octopodes the tankiest race ever existed?

>>148134775
>would it make Octopodes the tankiest race ever existed?
No. Ogres and troll still exist.

>>148133484
>>148134775
There's a cap on how much MP you can gain naturally, but not on how much total MP you can have including items.

How fucked am I if Azog spawns with a whole pack of orc diggers?

>>148135078
just generate a different floor
because those are pretty annoying

>>148135315
yeah, I fucked off when one came through my killhole wall like the kool-aid man.

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REMEMBER TO PLAY YOUR WORST TODAY /a/NON!!!!!

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And thus the life of this minotaur comes to an end.
Could have prevented this by getting out of the zig after I found the potions of cure mutations, but I'm too stupid for that.

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>>148136354
Int: 0

>>148136354
What the fuck happened to your max HP?

>>148136354
Why were you still following trog on extended?

>>148136470
Frail 3 I think, I got malmutated a lot.

>>148136479
I wanted to do a 15 rune with trog. I managed to clear the hells, and could have gone even further if I escaped this zig sooner.


Well next time I will not risk it this much.

>>148136915
Anon there aren't any runes in zigs.

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>>148136256

>>148137032
I was desperate for potions of cure mutations.
I found a couple, but I stupidly decided to continue further. I'm dumb as my minotaur

>>148136354
Is there a way to make your tile appear like a pandemonium lord on webtiles? And is it random each time you resume playing?

>>148136354
Maximum MiBe

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>prevents teleportation
>random teleportation

>>148136354
Hey died the way he lived.
Brainless.

>>148129240
I just saw the guy who splatted that gargoyle on webtiles playing a MiBe

Literally otabbed all the way. Didn't ever stop doing it. The character lasted a whole 4 minutes before he tabbed into a orc priest and got killed

I tried to tell him to pick a whip of venom in D:2 (he was training M&F on top) and to pump Dex rather than Str but he didn't falter even for a second. Only good decisions he took were putting a hat on and switching his hide for leather. I thought the MiBe extreme otabber was a meme

>>148137786
Also, from all the No target in view messages it seemed he wasn't just otabbing, he was leaving tab pressed and only stopped to press o

>>148137549
Who cares, look at all those rare-ish resists.

https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20675

Thoughts?

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>>148138702

>>148137786
Jesus christ those guy's morgue files are pretty sad

Highlights right now include getting a TrBe killed by a worm on D:3 and trying to use Summon Guardian Golem on D:2 and summoning a hostile Executioner in the proccess

>>148138702
>advocating this because it can "force players to adapt"
>DCSS is possibly the worst roguelike for """"adapting""""

>>148138702
>thoughts?
it's tavern.
I'm not even opening that.

>>148139294
My thoughts exactly.

>its a 3 orc priests and an orc warrior on d3 episode
what did I do to deserve this

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I'm not sure what I expected from having six ring slots.

>>148140776
Narya, Vilya, The One Ring, The Ring of Tulkas, that one ring that has rTime that I forgot the name of and a ring of speed +20 would be nice.

>>148140776
Pretty much fucking nothing until you get down to dlevel 30 or so.

>>148140776
but later you splat or totally get to wear Narya, Nenya, Vilya, the One Ring, the Ring of the Ages, and The Ring of Destruction

"eventually"

>>148141130
That amount of grind still sounds more bearable than a Death Sword especially now that her device skill was nerfed for no reason.

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I'M STILL MAD ABOUT THOSE LAZY GODDAMN ORCS

Any lewd roguelikes?

>>148142865
MaidenSnowEve, Elona+ and Brogue.

>>148142653
Good. Stay mad.

>>148143017
>brogue
?

>>148143752
>he hasn't formed a harem

>>148143752
Naga pussy.

internal furnace is a fucking trap bionic

this is like the third time I've accidentally eaten all of my ammunition

fuck

FUCK

>>148144870
Does anyone have that tibetan woodcarving of a girl eating a donut or something and thinking that somehow a part of her is dying?

>>148138702
That's funposting, right?
Right?

>>148146734
>tavern
>fun
uh

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Can only having 1 strength kill me somehow?

I feel like I'm walking on thin ice.

>>148149604
If you ever get strength drained you'll be super slowed and I think unable to fight for a while. So yeah it's not particularly safe.

Having 1 strength by itself is perfectly fine though.

>>148149742
That's what I was wondering.

I can never remember which monsters are able to drain strength.

>>148149604
Collapse doubles the time all actions take. So yeah, you're walking on mighty thin ice.

>>148149839
Mummy curses and hell effects mainly

>>148149604
>this character could carry around a stack of 200 ruks with no problem
Fucking DCSS.

>>148149604
It can certainly get killed.
If you get strength drained from any source for even 1 point, or you get zapped with a level of weak mut you will get the collapsing status effect.
http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=stat%20drain
>If [str] reaches 0 you are immediately paralysed for 2-4 turns
>You are slowed and have 1/4 regen rate as long as strength<1, these effects persist for some time after remedying the drain

>>148132904
-tele on armor is a death sentence

-tele on ring/weapon is ok because you can remove it in half a turn

-tele on amulets is also mostly ok but depending on the amulet's base type it might to annoying shit when you remove it

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>>148149742
>>148149906
>>148149971
Goodbye sweet gloves.

>>148149604
>tfw no more 0 stat death
I miss thoose times

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Did someone say ruks??!?!

>>148144870
you know you can turn it on and off in the bionic menu

and it only lets you eat shit when it's turned on

it's great for chopping down a tree and eating the logs for 1000+ bionic energy

>>148151043
>ruks
I'm new here, why does everybody meme about large rocks?

>>148149958
>still buttmad about weight removal
>but not any of the other unrealistic things in crawl

>>148151043
It's been a long time since I ruk and rolled.

>>148151215
Big, fat, juicy, !s, anon.

>reintroduce weight
>double inventory size
Thoughts?

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>>148151215
Because they're the second most optimal thing in the game.
Too bad Formicid's can't ruk and roll anymore.

>>148151246
Like what, anon? Magic in general? Is that still the excuse for being able to do fucking anything you want?

>>148151553
Weight is stupid, boring, and only appeals to realism fags.
The only games where weight is given any actual consideration to make it factor into gameplay in an interesting way are games where weapon weight affects combat stats a la Sil. And even then, non-weapons just have weight as a junky stat.

>>148150832

>tfw no hive
>tfw no racial weapons/armour
>tfw decks removed from random drops in trunk
>tfw no throwing
>tfw no mountain dwarf

Crawl devs are shit why do I still play

>>148151901
you seem to have missed the point lad

>>148151901
>Weight is stupid, boring, and only appeals to realism fags.
spoken like a true tavernposter.

>>148151553
>double inventory size

how do you propose to do that, anon

>>148151983
2page

>>148151942
Masochism

>>148151982
cdda-player realismfag detected

>>148151982
go play unreal world

>>148151973
Which was?
With 104 slots for items you may as well have weight be the only limiting factor and let players carry whatever number of items they can lift since 99% of characters won't ever reach the number cap before they reach the weight cap.

>splat another craft dragon a few levels before getting the reforging spell
Kill me.

>>148152523
I just want to carry all of my scrolls, potions, wands, and evocables.

>>148152824
>post 3.5 reforging
you haven't lost a thing.

>>148152248

maybe I should just go back to .10
life was good then

>>148152975
Play DCSSCA

>>148144870
and furthermore
>slam into armored truck sideways going 60 miles an hour, impacting the vulnerable lightly armored side of my truck
>plating is dented and I need to spend an hour repairing it


>run over a shrub at 20 miles an hour with the giant steel drums covered in military composite armor that are on the front of my truck
>front third of my truck fucking explodes

>>148152994
Ring randarts are a lot better in 5.0, so in theory it should be good.

Also it's the only thing that realm has going for it besides device skills so it should be strong on that basis. Right?

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>>148153232
>he doesn't know that the bushes gained sentience and superpowers and are behind the zombie apocalypse

>>148153232
My favorite is when you hit a bush, destroy the frame underneath the driver's seat and get ran over by your own car.

It's so dumb it's funny.

>>148153232
>>148153675
CDDA sounds fuckin stupid

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>>148153798
You're fuckin stupid.

>>148153459

>>148153675
it's like every time I think I've really fucked up and plow into a Steam roller or a wall or an armored truck at 60 miles an hour I just dent my fender and then every time I run into a fucking shrub the world comes to a fucking end.

>>148153091
That actually sounds kind of neat.

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>>148153675
>save while going 80 mph and close game
>reload later
>game flips the fuck out
>motorcycle disappears
>body rockets across the pavement at at 80mph
>fly through a fungal tower
>hit a tree and explode

>>148154034
I had more fun playing SLEX, honestly.

>>148154161
[VGS]

>>148153798
It's really fun and has a ridiculously in depth crafting and vehicle construction system.

But there are parts of it that are absolutely fully fucking retarded.

one of those things is that fact that you can move diagonally and tiles are square, so when you turn a vehicle 45 degrees you can now somehow slip in between its walls despite the fact that when it's pointed in a cardinal direction it's totally airtight.

>>148154457
Which is why the coders should move to cata 2 instead of jerking off over DDA.

>>148155026
>expecting unpaid codemonkeys to drop everything and take on a tremendously more tedious and difficult task
anon

>>148155162
This winter I'll start coding classes and learn C.
And then I'll start fixing cata2 by myself since none of you fuck have the balls to start.

>>148155309
Uh huh. Sure.

>>148155026
It's not like porting years of work to some unfinished, dead codebase solely because it has z-levels would be any more productive.

>>148155446
(You)

>>148155309
>C

Learn a real language, like Haskell.

>>148155530
>not assembly
fucking plebeians I swear

>>148155530
>not learning R
muh data

>not coding DNA itself
fucking plebs

>not using brainfuck

One day you may.

Actually scientists at cern translated two point two petabytes of data into one gram of DNA today.

>>148156446
>one gram of DNA
Literally biological computers.

>>148156446
mechanical -> solid state -> organic hard drives

One night, you might.

>>148156995
Funny you should say that.

http://icytotem.bitbucket.org/game.html

>>148151612
>a single hornet is more threatening than a pack of angry orcs with swords
>setting foot in deep water means instant death, even though you can survive the suffocation from curare indefinitely
>angels don't give a fuck whether you worship their masters
>good gods don't give a fuck when you muder pikel/kirke's mind-controlled slaves
>skill with wands doesn't affect the power of heal wounds (because balance)
>skeletons/zombies/ghosts can't figure out how to use staircases, even if they can fly
>a hydraform player can swallow a kraken or giant whole
>entrances to volcanos/ice caves/labyrinths always mysteriously magically collapse as soon as you walk through them
>shops/altars in a dungeon where literally nobody other than the player ever uses them
>orcish "mines" where all the gold is already mined out and sitting on the floor and the orcs do nothing except sit around and wait for someone to come kill them for it
>every enemy is united in their hatred for the player. even mindless creatures only ever attack the player, never anything else
>being good at throwing things makes poison from a blowgun more poisonous
>random magic teleportation only ever moves you horizontally, never up or down

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>>148157127
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME

>>148157127
Nope nope you won't get me, game.

>>148157127
So is this one of those cookie clicker clones? Looks neat, but i don't want to dump a few hours on it to find out it's worse than CC

>>148158373
Give in to the purest form of grind, anon.
You know you want to.

>>148158378
It's actually rather good for the first day or so.

>>148158378
>i don't want to dump a few hours on it to find out it's worse than CC
what
how would it take that long to find out

don't forget the glaringly obvious response to that weight-removal complainer, that it doesn't make any sense that a character can't carry any more than 52 items.

>>148158378
Oh, and rebuild the universe is great too. Very fun.
When I'm burnt out on roguelikes I give idle games a spin.

>>148157917
>>148158373
Here, have something actually good
http://candies.aniwey.net/
>>148158527
I am very through in my opinion making

>>148158748
>implying
bro I was playing idle games before I even discovered roguelikes
I played candy box and every other idle game to death
candy box 2 was shit

>>148158891
It suffered from the popularity-induced sequel syndrome: more stuff but less thightly designed
I'm betting you played dark room too, but those three plus original CC were the most known
>A few years back
Jesus fuck where has time gone

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You know what? Fuck everything else. I ain't taking this shield anytime.

>>148159375>>148159375
>I'm betting you played dark room too
and sharks, and kittens, and space lich omega 1/2 and gold and gems and prosperity and diamond hunt and literally everything.
>Jesus fuck where has time gone
Same place /igg/ has.
In the trash.

>>148159453
It's the best. If you couple it with a highly enchanted reflection amulet to make up for the fact it's a fucking buckler it becomes the strongest item in the game.

>>148159375
Not him but a dark room is what inspired me to look into roguelikes more deeply after only being lightly familiar with them beforehand. That was over three years ago.

>>148159690
>a dark room
too fucking good

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>that feel when playing cookie clicker for the first time
>downloading autoclicker and letting it run all night in a tiny ass window to get all the golden cookies
Summer 2013 was truly a magic time.

>>148159845
they never made one as good as that.
It was basically text based qud.

>>148157835
>a single hornet is more threatening than a pack of angry orcs with swords
Hornets are fucking scary as fuck when theyre 2 inches long, Imagine a giant 1 foot hornet. That shits pretty damn threatening.

>>148157127
Oh boy here we go.

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Roguelikes

>>148160374
>Hornets are fucking scary as fuck when they're 2 inches long
not when you're wearing armor.

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>>148160459
Do not bully awoo

>>148160640
Tough titty, said the felid.

>>148160662
Ok, conversely a small 2 inch hornet gets inside your plate armor.
G fucking G my friend

>>148160792
>smack the hornet under my armor
>your unarmed increased to 5

>>148160792
I say ouch until I can get it out because I tank giant clubs and demonic tridents and god's fucking wrath for a living.

>>148161116
delete this

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>>148161189
The memes are real

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how the fuck do i kill this faggot ass ghost crab? should i just come back later?

>>148161401
>trog
Use bros.

>>148161401
come back later and immediately close distance

they're super weak

>>148161401
it's not that tanky

run away to reset the fight so you're not covered in spooky ghosts and then use bia at the beginning

>>148161503
>>148161504
god damn there were TWO of them, summoned 3 bros and blinked around like a faggot and i'm good now

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>>148161218

>>148161880
cute awoos

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>>148162052
They're both made for sex.

>>148162159
no
bad anon
bad

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>>148162159
Would there be anything more autistic than a 2hu roguelike?

>>148162394
Elona exists, generic anime girl #9841042.

>>148162394
No.
The world would unmake itself from the autism implosion.

>>148155530
>not assembler

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>>148162307

>>148162669
Is that an Unteralterbach advert below Fucking?

>>148162767
>Please: not so fast!

sounds like it

>>148162394
cdda roleplayers

>>148162890
I studied Deutsch for 5 years in elementary and middle-school and forgot all of it. Though that I was able to read still. IT all gets mixed up with Swedish that I studied for 3 years and now I understand neither.

>>148163335
I never learned the language, but I lived in Wiesbaden for the better part of 4 years. You get pretty used to it. Though I can't imagine having multiple germanic languages bumping around inside my head.

I just downloaded Brogue. How do I make the window not so Xbox hueg?

>>148163721
press - and + to change the font+window size

>>148162394
>>148162472
I've seen Elona with 2hu skins.

>>148150565
Those are actual trash
>>148151942
I'm mostly sad about hive and Sludge Elves

>>148163816
Thanks, man.

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>>148162669
>angry german words
>spooky two-headed child

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>in a shop on D:5

>>148164537
>+4 hand crossbow

well if it wasn't -5 int it could be an ok stat-stick for a mage

it's nice for the time being but its damage will become irrelevant long before the rC starts to matter

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it's nice but also kind of weird

probably would be more elegant just to put a guaranteed stone of lore as a quest reward somewhere

maybe in place of that amulet in the middle of the death sword quest

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>found this ring in a shop right at the beginning of snake pits

should i buy it? i don't have any rElec, and my only rPois is a +2 leather armor while i have quicksilver dragon armor available

>>148165306
>should i buy elec before doing snake
do you like 100 damage lightning bolts

>>148165306
Hell yes.

>>148164838
>put a guaranteed stone of lore as a quest reward somewhere

>needing to swap between the jewel of judgement and lore

>>148166068
in mpa-pcb it has from the inventory for a long time, since way before they added "you have evolved into a stone of lore"

>>148166184
>in mpa-pcb it has from the inventory for a long time
it has what
you mean it works in the inventory or something

>>148164838
>reach a certain level
>turn into a rock
what the fuck is going on in pcb

>>148166298
whoops, *it has worked from the inventory

>>148166315
it's a silly message
the stone of lore is an artifact that automatically identifies everything
mpa-PCB gives that power to every player at level 25

>>148160001
That pic kills me a little inside every time it's posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugJfjmxOR2I

>>148166315
It's just a very silly way of saying that you've gained the loremaster trait.

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I didn't realize that Pakellas could be this lewd!

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>>148167821
It was a +6 lightning rod, then I got Snorged hard thanks berserker rage

Uhm... I don't know whether this considered off topic or not, but here goes...
Can I use a system like gurps or pathfinder in my roguelike, or will I be breaking a license?

>>148168457
Contact your lawyer, /rlg/ is not licensed to give legal advice

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>>148168457
>Pathfinder

>>148168457
i think d20 mechanics are ok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Game_License

note that this makes it legal to do shit like "roll 20 to hit, natural 20 is a crit"
it does not let you include mind flayers or "bigby's grasping hand", which are still copyrighted as wotc's IP

>>148168837
Do you think you could get away with Rigby's Groping Hand?

>>148169045
Bob's Touchy-Feely Limb

>>148169045
they have "open game content" version of those spells that are just called "grasping hand", "mage's disjunction" (instead of mordekainen's), etc
you just can't use their wizard names i guess

>>148168457
Seriously, don't use Pathfinder. If you're gonna use D&D at all, use a version not based on 3.E.

>>148168457
USE SPELLJAMMER

>>148169737
>>148168706
Eh, why does /rlg/ hate pathfinder so much?

So now that rings of invisibility and wands of invisibility are removed, how do non-caster sneaks survive in the early to mid game

>>148170559
>non-caster sneaks

they were never good

>>148170559
go chei

>>148170382
Those were both me, didn't mean to samefag.

>>148170631
An Assassin finding a ring of invis would trivialize most of the game

>>148170759
!!! BEWARE THE HUNGER COST !!!

>>148170815
A Vampire assassin then

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well the plan was to kite the minotaur through all my rogue traps

except it turns out enemies can even "fall through a trap door" on the lowest floor of a dungeon so this is a garbage strat

>you will never hug awoo
why go on

>>148170559
Rings and wands of invis didn't consistently exist in the early to mid game anyway so, the same way they used to?

>>148171525
Rip
Trapdoor is basically banishment in *bands, right?

>>148172821
Oh and non-caster sneaks don't work anyway.

>>148172839
basically

since he's the boss of the level he needs to exist, so he reappears elsewhere on the level with full hp

other uniques or monsters just disappear and say "fuck you you aren't getting my loot and xp today"

>>148173073
>elsewhere with full hp
It sounds like you picked the wrong strat

>>148171525
Traps are never good in roguelikes.

Even in DDA no one uses anything more complicated than a bare hole in the ground.

>>148173359
yeah the "create minor trap" spell turns out to be pretty useless

the amount of "cast spell, rest to full MP, repeat" makes it impractical and annoying to use for normal packs of enemies, and the chance of a trapdoor makes it awful for things you want to actually kill

>>148174110
although looking at the code the higher level ones seem better

the "major" traps from the fourth book are all just damage including one sound ball and one summoning trap, and the "ultimate" traps from the fourth book have effects like manastorm and summon-ancient-dragons

>>148174641
>"major" traps from the fourth book
whoops, *second book

guys how do I beat cookie clicker-likes? does it ever end?

>>148176278
Cookie Clicker? I hardly knew her!

>>148176278
Close the tab, delete history, delete bookmarks
Walk away

>>148176278
see
>>148132172

Just walk away.

>>148137786

I do that too and I have a gazillion of 15 runers on non-diesel chars. otabbing is fun if you know what you're doing

>>148173359
>Even in DDA no one uses anything more complicated than a bare hole in the ground.
Except for caltrop spam and nailboards.

Basically, traps have to be reusable to be worth it.

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I could have used a hat with some resists or anything, really.

So far force trainer seems like a monk that trades the ability to fight effectively for some extra not-so-amazing powers.

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Shoot, what's my move here

>>148180975
squid up, senpai

>>148181040
I'm gonna blink down and use my wand of digging diagonally

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reee

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Meng is only annoying when you have a time initiate in the back spamming the -10 slow. Also risky health.

>>148180975

Slouch you retard

>>148180975
I would move down, and if he notices me, step from time.

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>>148181323
>>148181397
I got out, it's okay. I guess I'll have to do shoals over snake.

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>>148181201

>>148181451
>running away
coward

>>148174641
>the "major" traps from the fourth book are all just damage including one sound ball and one summoning trap, and the "ultimate" traps from the fourth book have effects like manastorm and summon-ancient-dragons
Would you mind telling me where you found this info so I can update the spoiler website?

>>148182961
here you go

https://github.com/poschengband/poschengband/blob/master/src/cave.c#L4708

i actually couldn't find it just by looking through the source code before, starting from the actual spells
I ended up just searching for the message it prints to try to work backwards

>>148184914
Thanks, I'll admit I've gotten a little tired of quasi-random grepping for stuff in order to decipher the less descriptive spells.

Poscheng codebase is utterly horrible.

Didn't the Angband devs rewrite the whole engine or something like that? Poscheng must be using the old one.

>>148185208
I believe there was a major rewrite of stuff with vanilla 4.0, yeah. Imagine the level of work it would take to port a variant that is the result of multiple people slapping shit on top of shit over decades to that though.

>>148185208
pcb is based on forks from probably multiple decades ago at this point

recently angband 4.0.0 happened which reworked a lot of the code but had no gameplay changes

the angband features i would most wish for in pcb are
#1: actually showing breath/spell damage in monster recall
and distant #2: having a separate monster memory file instead of tying it to invidual character save files

>>148186136
>and distant #2: having a separate monster memory file instead of tying it to invidual character save files
There is an easy_lore birth option now which gives your character full monster recall from turn 1.

>>148186580
i actually use mpa for the full monster memory anyways
but it would be nice to be able to have shit like "your ancestors have killed x of this monster" even though i'm constantly creating new saves and playing multiple characters at the same time

>>148186136
And it's based on forks upon forks upon forks, too.

Kind of like Furyband is based on ToME2 which is based on OAngband which is based on Skillband(I think it's something like that?) which in turn are based on ZAngband which ToME2 is also partially based on, and ZAngband is based on Angband which is based on Moria

tldr what the fug

>>148187534
Fuck

And people here are complaining about DDA's codebase.

>>148187660
It's surprising how there aren't that many bad bugs in the variants that are several generations away from Angband.

>>148185208
You might say the codebase is HIV positive.

>>148162394
Not only is there a 2hu roguelike
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=EienteiRL
there is a 2hu angband variant, because of course there is
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Angband

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>>148155309
If you want to work on video games, and in particular roguelikes, I suggest you learn C++ over C, because OOP is extremely important in most game archetypes, especially roguelikes.

The subwindows in my screenshot are objects (insatces) of a window class, which are stored in a vector of window objects inside the GUI object. Also, each and every tile in the 128^2 map is an object with its own particular qualities. Gamedev is made much, much harder if you can't use objects, and C's OOP capabilities are, to sugar-coat it, limited.

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>>148191445
>insatces
I don't know how I fucked that up that bad. Instances*

>>148191445
looks like dorf fort senpai

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>Maud might be removed
why man

>>148187534
It amazes me that so many people played Angband and thought "I wish I could do that again, but with more bloat".

At least Nethack and its variants have something beyond rewarding the use of killholes.

>>148192143
>might be
Yeah removals in the DCSS master branch sure get reverted a lot.

>>148157127
Fuck you I just played this for 6 hours.

>>148192143
Maud is my favorite unique. I'll be very sad if she leaves.

>>148192143
>diminishing the female presence in a male-dominated hobby
Misogynistic cishet shitlords. #whyIneedfeminism

>>148196180
Garbage item.

>>148196431
>Crown of the pharaoh
>Garbage
That ghoul has 2 int and even he knows that shit is dope.

>>148196736
Oh is that Dyrovepreva?
I always confuse its tile with Etheric Cage.

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i've cleared the dungeon, lair + sub-branches, and V:4. should i do the elven halls or try the depths? when will i be ready for V:5?

>>148197217

>not even a single pip of rF, rC, and/or rN

get ready for splat surprises

>>148197217
Do depths and then do V:$.
As a troglodyte I would probably just do V:$ right away, but you're pretty new so not recommended.
No rF+ or rC+ sources? A ring of rF+ would be much better than the rCorr ring.

>>148197604
>>148197621
fuck didn't even realize i was still wearing rCorr, i do have an rF ring. i also found an rF/rC robe but, well it's a robe so i'm not sure if that's worth it.

would it be best to go with rF rN rings and this rC Dex+5 leather armor?

>>148197992
What's the AC/EV/MR with the leather armour?
Getting both rC+ and rF+ is really helpful for V:$ and depths.

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>>148198169
it's a +0 artifact unfortunately, i could make ice/dragon armors but those just make me weak to the opposite. could swap the rPois rElec ring for positive energy if it's needed

being felid is suffering

>>148198336
I would use the QDA and wear the rF+ ring and just watch out for Frost Giants/Ice Dragons.
The most threatening ice damage sources are all in extended, fortunately.

>>148198880
okay, thanks! would you say rNeg is useful or should i stay with rPois/rElec ring? doesn't seem like much does poison outside of the lair anymore

>>148199114
Not him but that's a darn good ring. Plenty of things use electric or poison attacks throughout the entire game, the MR+ is icing on the cake.

>>148199114
The great thing about rings is that they take 0.5 auts to take off and put on. Put rN+ on for shadow dragons, curse toes, curse skulls, and liches(least important).
The rPois, rElec, MR+ ring is generally better though.

>>148199323
Honestly I'd leave MR+ on over rN versus a lich.

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Is this actually dual wield?

Chei should grant +30 to all stats at max but also give stasis.

>>148199248
>>148199323
cool, thanks. is 3 pips of mr enough for elven halls?

>>148200125
That's pushing it but it could be okay.

>>148199876
and perma slow
and locks in your attack speed at the "max" (0 skill) delay

>>148200169
i could spam trog's hand against tougher enemies but i'll probably just wait to see if i can find any better MR shit, not gonna risk it for an optional branch

>>148200170
Absolutely.

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Take that, ya jerk.

>>148200948
finally anon jesus

>Coolthulu changes some default values when creating a game
>from now on skill rust is set to "off" by default

Oh boy oh gee I sure enjoy having 15 melee by autumn

>>148197217
Xtahua one shot my character once because I didn't have rF. He didn't even need to paralyze me.

>>148204196
Skill system is shit entirely. Needs a total rework.

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>>148204196
Skill rust is garbage desu

>>148204196
Because crafting a knitting needle every 2 hours to stave off the rust is so much fun, right?

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Still making sprites for PCB

Spectral Wyrm

>>148207208
That's great.
Pushes the frame a bit, but unlike the earlier Hell Wyrm tile it's easy to see what's what and only a bit of the wing is clipping.

>>148207208
oh wow that one is actually rather beautiful anon
good job
I take back everything I said about your hobby two days ago

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>>148207467
I'm not used to working with the entire frame.

I tried to resize prior sprites.

I will do hell wyrm from scratch.

>>148205132
The whole game is shit, but it's gotten some quality improvements.
Books should act like dcss manuals, survivor weapons and survivor armor should not exist (which can be fixed with blacklists) enemies should be more interesting and challenging (which can be fixed with pisskop's mod, ableit partially) the whole map system should be redone from scratch and have an arbitrarily large but finite map a la cata2, mapgen should be more varied, eyebots shouldn't just summon robocops out of thin air and the 3d system still needs a major rework.

Other than that the crafting system is fun.

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>>148207762
If you want to double the size of your things without having to manually redo everything, I suggest you use

http://waifu2x.udp.jp/

for example this is murgash at 128x128.

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>>148207914
Nah, I just resize with photoshop + nearest neighbor

>>148208041
By resize I meant turning a tiny-as-fuck sprite into a sprite that fit more into the 32x32 frame.

>>148207914
waifu2x is overly complicated for resizing pixel art. It's intended for anti-aliased animation stills at already high resolutions.

>>148208041
>using proprietary software
>in the home of our lord stallman

>>148208430
>not pirating proprietary software

>>148208430
You go anon. Put the /g/ in /rlg/.
I'll handle the /r/: requesting someone to take responsibility for the /l/.

>three manuals of Hexes in a somewhat early shop on a GhMo of Gozag run
wat

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>>148208731
>requesting someone to take responsibility for the /l/.
but what would /l/ even be?
loli?

>>148209278
Gross, we're not pedophiles.

>>148209278
Lakes, for lake appreciation and whatnot.

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Meant to make a mature dragon, forgot dragons have 6 limbs.

Hopefuly I can shove arms on this somehow

>>148209583
Nice

>>148209583
oh no
is someone cumming on that poor unsuspecing dragon

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>>148209740

>kill Pikel's slaves after freeing them
>can still eat their corpses for healing rotting because Gozag's golden touch cannot affect them
ha

>>148209891
>it breathes. It coughs. It bites. It bites!

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Fuck, now it looks like a dragon-man


>>148209740
lel

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>>148209996
Much better

Will be recolored a gorillion times for each mature dragon variant.

Same goes for baby, young and ancient.

Only wyrms will be unique.

>>148210425
Seems like a reasonable approach.

>>148210509
too bad you can't just simply use the pain tool with these things when it comes to recoloring

>>148209927
inb4 fixed.

Be careful anon-kun, you should keep that bug to yourself.

>>148209927
>>148210623
You don't get gold from other monsters which don't give experience.
This doesn't sound like a bug.

>>148210621
Hue-shifting with a discrete select-by-colour should be easy enough. IDK if photoshop can do that, but GiMP can, so I assume yes.

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>>148210621
Pain tool?

Recoloring is piss easy with a paintbucket/photoshop color adjustment

>>148211186
What a pretty durrgin
I wanna ride her

>>148211186
I feel like the white dragon should be a little whiter.

>>148211264
nah she's fine
she's like dirty ice and shit
you don't want to get completely white, that'd be awful

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>>148211186
>>148211264
I think white dragons being ice blue is ideal.
Blue dragons can have all the strong blue colours.

You wouldn't begrudge a red dragon for a little bit of brown, would you?

>>148211414
Looks good

>>148211414
You accidentally deleted the eye + inner fire, anon!

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>>148211550
Durr.

>>148211186
What are you going to do for multi-hued?

>>148212431
rainbows filter.

>>148212431
Mess around until something nice comes out, I guess.

>>148211740
Looks like a pussy on its period.

>>148212674
You're being vulgar.

>>148212674
anon we know you've never seen a vagina, it's okay
you're in a safe place here

>>148212674
>girls will never bleed dragons out their vaginas every month
What a cruel world

>>148212674
You've been around some eldritch pussies, anon. Their owners should probably seek treatment for necrosis.

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>Mystery Jungle

I've 15 runed DCSS, I should not be getting completely wiped in the first fucking room three times in a row. Wish I could reroll to a character who doesn't suck.

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>>148212725
>>148212813
Period sex is some vile shit, anons.

>>148212790
>pussies bleed dragonblood
>the process of becoming immortal has never been so disgusting

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100% calculated.

>>148212936
Only dragoncunts
Regular cunts will at best grant you ghouldom.

>>148214346
>tfw no armor made from pulsating ghoul vulvae

Mu and VS are the most fun races

>>148215335
I prefer Tonberries and Klackons myself.

>>148215602
>the poschengband guy is so unoriginal he has to rip off creatures from other games

>>148215642
>the poschengband guy

>>148215880
You know who I mean, Chris or whatever.

>>148215925
PosChengband is a variant based off of 2 variants based off of a variant based off of a variant based off a variant based off of Vanilla. I doubt more than a small fraction of the race/monster content in the game was added explicitly by Chris.
You may as well complain that it has orcs and Morgoth hanging around.

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This was supposed to be Koschei the Deathless (Kaschei the Immortal in PCB)

I have no idea what happened.

Looks more like War.

How much strenght is required to make spellcasting viable in dragon armor?

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>>148216307
looks spoopy if you jack the contrast up

>>148216307
Try drawing him unmounted?
The pone itself would make a great nightmare tile.