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first for bring back quickplay

nth for autism

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Competetive is a mess, the basic commands that allowed me to play are disabled, weapons are inside my chin or inside my chest instead of inside my arms, everyone has fov of Demoman that can't be changed.
I get matched with retards and have to play Medic 90% of the time.
How much do you think I will have to wait until all good players move into higher ranks and I can play with retards against retards instead of with retards against platinum six team stacked.

>Sadly
Heavy's gotten some retarded nerfs but at least he's still a playable class.

>playing pyro
reddit meme class desu

>>148111435
Yeah but he only got one update and it was in 2008.
Pyro's got TWO and the last one was in 2012.

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>>148111509
>Pyro's got TWO and the last one was in 2012.
Right, a useless secondary is totally an update.

>>148111435
I still think Heavy is kind of stale at the moment, he basically has one loadout that is good for everything and any off-plays with him result in him losing power.

Svetlana and Sasha are basically the same weapon except one spins up faster, while Pyro has a wide variety of choices, he can play sneaky Pyro with Backburner, Combo Pyro with Degreaser, W+M1 Pyro with stock etc.

Pyro's melee also allows custom plays such as Pybro, or selfish Pyro with Backscratcher.

There is just so much you can do with Pyro and Heavy comes down to:
1.Take out your speedy melee
2.Track enemies after you jump into battlefield
3.Give Sandvich to Medic

Sandvich is the only viable secondary, GRU is the only viable melee and Svetlana/Sasha are the only viable primaries.

The only alternate way to play Heavy is Fat Scout, which is a horrible subclass and a joke that should never be utilized in serious play.

>>148111664
> which is a horrible subclass and a joke that should never be utilized in serious play.
Most of those "pyro" varieties are just straight worse than fat scout, and in "serious" play the only vaguely viable one is combo and that was nerfed into the dirt

>>148111664
i dont speak autism
wat is svetlana

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>>148111796
Heavy named all the miniguns in the new comic

Svetlana is tamislav, brass beast is Oksana, heater is Sheila

>>148111796
Do you have memory of a goldfish or did you not read the comic?

>>148111664
>Heavy is kind of stale at the moment
Easy solution: wear a hat

>>148111907
I thought Tomislav was it's name already.
But I guess Heavy isn't into this gay shit.

>>148112000
Heavy miniguns are 100% F.EMALE

Happy Birthday

has anyone managed to disable viewmodels in comp yet?

>>148112608
cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1
Works for most classes except Soldier's Rocket Launcher.

>>148111586
>useless
the only thing better than the scorch shot is the shotgun

>>148111664
retard alert. Heavy, Pyro, Sniper, Spy, and Engineer aren't meant to have a shitload of depth to the classes. They are simple utility situational classes that are used when needed. Pyro isn't useful at all compared to other classes. Just because heavy doesn't have a demoknight subclass doesn't mean it needs the update fuckwit.

>>148113237
Sniper has a fucking Bow and Sniper Rifle that doesn't do headshots.
Spy has an invisibility watch that allows him to fake death, and a knife that disables his disguise but disguises on backstab.
Engineer can replace his massive level 3 sentry with mini sentry.

The only class that doesn't have depth is Heavy Weapons Guy!

>>148113237
>Sniper, Spy, and Engineer aren't meant to have a shitload of depth to the classes.
t. retard

>>148113237
All of the classes you listed have a shitload of depth though.

>>148113414
show me the difference between a player with 300 hours on engineer, and 3000 hours on engineer. the only difference is aim with hitscan. the classes i listed have very little difference with experience besides aim. this is part of the reason why they are used as offclasses in 6's. because they don't reward better players, and they slow the game down.

>>148113624
>Show me the difference between a lot of time and an even larger amount of time
>Depth having anything to do with skill
you really are retarded aren't you

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>enemy team makes it to the last stage of map of thunder mountain
>there's no way for them to beat your team's time

I just played 4 rounds and didn't get any exp

nice game valve

>>148113678
300 hours is very little time on a class. but my point was you could become near top level at that class in a small amount of time, because they don't have much depth to them besides gimmick joke weapons that are only viable in pubs.

>>148113662
b4nny said yesterday he can live with the fov

fucking shill, sellout, BAKA

Guys how the fuck do you push into Barnblitz's last point when they have a million sentries

>>148114573
blow up the sentries

>>148114183
So he convinced them to not buff Reserve Shooter but didn't convince them to not lock cut off 20% of our fucking screen and shove our weapons inside our faces?
I swear to God.
Fucking Valve added zoom sensitivity into the whitelist, Sniper is run like 10% of the time, if not less, and their priority is to help Snipers more? Really?
Not playing competetive until they let me enjoy it without the whole world being zoomed in.

>>148114946
>So he convinced them to not buff Reserve Shooter
He probably just bitched and moaned at them for several days until they relented to shut him up, and he had to choose whether to not buff the Reserve Shooter or stop the other shit.

Since he can't live without being airborne 24/7, he chose the Reserve Shooter. Expecting b4nny to have any influence with the dev team is laughable.

>>148114573
Ask your team nicely to switch to classes that help the situation, mention the classes that would help the situation. Don't make emotional comments and insult your team mates, that only makes your team's motivation go down and perform worse.

Like did you ever hear that soldiers unironically shittalk each other in times of war? That a football team calls their goal keeper a retard because he made a mistake?

>>148115037
He's playing it right though at the moment, if valve drops him he won't have any influence at all, and if he is a bitchy child valve surely will drop him.

will valve ever give us anything to do with extra crates?

Like turn 20 of them into scrap or something. I have way too many in my inventory

>>148115037
You're pulling a lot of that out of your ass.

>get into 2 games with a bunch of fags who don't make callouts and couldn't cooperate to save their lives
>spy fag who keeps getting suicide picks but he's at the top so he must be good xD
>only decent players are me and a soldier who i pocket but we still lose both rounds
>don't lose any xp for losing the match

Nice

>wake up
>get ready to play
>servers down

>:(

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>bruise self while playing Pokemon GO

FUCK

>>148114573
It's one of the most cancerous last in the game, which is a shame because the points before are actually kinda fun.
You have to manage to sneak up a demo + medic where the full healthpack is and go from there, the stairs should shield you from eventual sentries on the top perch

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how to disable viewmodels in comp:
1. download https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpgiwlcowfat1xe/materials.rar?dl=0 and put it in 'custom' folder so files are like this "/materials/vgui/replay/thumbnails"

2. add code from http://pastebin.com/raw/b2wZE0sB to your hudlayout.res in scripts folder of your hud

3. add this to your config
mat_motion_blur_enabled 0
mat_disable_bloom 1
mat_hdr_level 0
mat_colcorrection_disableentities 1
mat_colorcorrection 0

enjoy (thanks to degu on teamfortress.tv)

>>148116109
I'm still hoping for a way to bundle 20 crates or something into one, kinda like steam gems on christmas

i would be ok with the update if they kept the feature where i can change my loadouts
i miss that

>>148116817
I wonder what's causing this to happen so often again

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>wanted to play yesterday
>item servers down
>get ready to play today
>still down

>>148117343
>finding games is fairly quick, 3-4 minutes
>can't change loadouts with presets, only my manually choosing loadouts

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My only custom hud is the damage numbers being bigger and other color so I can see them.
I fucking tried everything to make it work after Meet your Match.
What the fuck, what do I have to put into my custom hud folder? I tried everything, naming the folder after the folder that was inside custom, naming it after what the file was called.
Nothing works.
Why do you take away the only custom hud I had...

>>148110972
so anon, why havent you been featured on sins channel yet?

>>148118070
What?

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>>148118000
Turns out I put this into the wrong folder.

Anyone else unable to play TF2 on Ubuntu? When trying to connect to a server, it freezes really bad then crashes. How do I fix this?

>>148118857
I had this issue earlier, turns out for some reason the tf2 was using the integrated gpu instead of the one inside the PCI-E slot.
You might want to disable it if you have it.

>>148114183
B4nny played with stock hud and viewmodels on until a few years ago.
He can live with anything.

>>148118940
How do I do that?

>>148119654
Let's say your integrated one was intel, and the one you want to turn on is Nvidia

with "prime-select query " you can see, which one is currently running

with "sudo prime-select intel " you can turn on the intel car

with "sudo prime-select nvidia" the other one.

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>play against obvious cheater yesterday
>quit game
>look at global leaderboard today
>he's climbed to nr. 6

effective anticheat when?

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>Shortstop can kill via shove attack
>It seemingly does no damage but it actually does 1 terrain damage for each shove
>If you kill with it it's not your kill, it will be unknown death

Why?

>>148120430
>doesn't even have a kill icon or achievement
lazy

>>148120264
>trying to learn surf in surf server
>see small kid spamming "get rekt" and farming frags
>kill him 4 times in a row
>"soldier cant aim like that, lmaobox?"

>>148120264
are all of these people snipers
i find it hard to believe any other class can stomp so easily

>>148120953

b4nny and slin (and most others who are there legit without cheats) are probably just rolling games with 6 stacks

>queue times start to get not complete shit, subs joining mid-game working
>once you finish a match you can't cancel the search and instead keep you trapped in

>>148121030
yeah that too

>>148120430
is that just the slap command applied to the target?

>>148120953
One of my friends is a plat spy/sniper main who made it to top 5 or so in the Comp MM beta. He's the reason I firmly believe Sniper needs to be nerfed.

>join comp
>theres a spy and an engi that refuse to change
>3 people decide to throw the game and stay in spawn instead

this shit will never stop unless the useless comp classes get a complete overhaul making them viable

that is never obviously

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>>148121634
Holy shit it is!
It applies the momentum to your target's current momentum instead of resetting it like Airblast.
You don't get damage dings because you are not the one doing damage.

Anon, you are genius.

Did they remove all fov changing commands? You cant modify fov in anyway except the minimode?

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Jesus Christ that was a close one

>>148122154
You can modify fov_desired only, viewmodel_fov is changable only through cl_first_person_uses_world_model and minmode.

>>148122252
so i could have whatever I had before the update if I want to?

>>148122294
I don't know what you want to say through this.
But viewmodel_fov is permanently locked to 54.

You can use minmode to hide them a bit, and cl_first_person_uses_world_model to hide them more (except Soldier, unless you want a face full of bazooka cock)

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> pyro is winning

ALL THE OTHER KIDS WITH THE PUMPED UP KICKS BETTER RUN BETTER RUN

>>148122412
I didn't have them hidden, I just had them really extended forward. So far you could see arms cut off. I guess I can't have that anymore

>>148110972
What the fuck is happening on this image?
Why is BLU Team Heavy and RED Team Pyro?
It just says "BLU" and "RED" on mine.

If all six people are in one team and the whole enemy team is on the other class team then this happens?
That's radical.

Shouldn't they do the opposite of the results? Obviously Pyro is either a more popular or better class to score more points, so Heavy should be rebalanced.

>>148122918
That's not how democracy works.

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>mfw found out how to use a fps config in MM

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>>148123046
> needing an fps config

>>148120430
What the fuck is this crosshair?

>>148123153
tf2 runs like shit
dont want to drop to 70 fps all the time
>inb4 "are you poor" memes

>>148123414
All configs do is display a high fps number, it's placebo

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>>148123552
this dumb

http://www.strawpoll.me/10720114

>>148122542
send hatemail to valve

So has anyone figured out that penalty system in comp mm yet?

Do you get a guaranteed loss if you abandon?

How does the penalty time work, is it increment, does it reset?

How can abandons be effectively punished?

Anyone else think the new guy making "Story time" videos on NISLT sounds like a huge tool? Almost as much as the Valve News Network Let's Make Up The News guy

>want to score some points for team heavy
>coordinator is conveniently down so I can't join any quick play matches
hmmm who could be behind this

>>148125406
the abandon penalty works like in CSGO
its a small-time ban at first, and it grows from there

if you don't abandon games for a long time i think the possible penalization time decreases, too (in case it was high before)

if its exactly like csgo it should be
>1st infraction: 30min.
>2nd infraction: 2 hours.
>3rd infraction: 24 hours
>4th infraction: 7 days

>>148125406
>How can abandons be effectively punished?
I think you should have a match win multiplier.
The default could be 1.0
Every time you abandon it gets decreased by 0.1 (reset to 1.0 after 1 month).
Every time someone in a match you play abandons it gets increased by 0.1 (max 1.5).

Additionally abandoners get an exponential time penalty.
Additionally abandoners are prioritized in a queue with other abandoneres.

What is the best loadout for getting kills as scout? i am currently using shortstop,pistol and atomic bat

KD is usually 1:2, twice deaths as kills.....

yes i suck ass

>>148125897
Stock/Stock/Basher

>>148125897
>Caring about K/D Ratio
This isn't Call of Duty, kid, Kill/Death ratio hardly matters in this game.
Also the best weapon for Scout is the default Scattergun.

>>148125897
Scattergun, pistol, atomizer

>>148125897
Use stock nigga, flank and learn to aim. You don't have to fight every enemy you meet to the death, retreat and engage the enemy when they are vulnerable.

>>148125897
stock
winger
atomizer

get that sweet 3,75x jump height rolling to get behind enemy lines or completely outplay whoever is following you and done

if you want to be a cunt though use mad milk

>>148125983
t. bad

funke looks like hes trying to hard to be ster

>>148125983
i trought the norm was usually 1:1 and if you went lower that meant you were useless? any stray rocket or sticky can kill me, i feel like i am not doing alot of impact as scout

>>148125619
huddah xD

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>>148125897
>primary
scattergun
>secondary
winger/pistol (depending if the map actually lets you benefit from winger higher double jump) crit-a-cola if you want to be a scumbag
>meele
irrelevant (dont use anything with global negative attributes like atomizer or sandman)

>global tf2 tip
get a sensitivity of at least 15cm/360 (6 inches)

>>148126070
if youre below 1:1 but all your kills are medics then its fine for a scout

>>148126225
>Being this bad
Scout is the single best 1v1 class in the game. If your K:D is below 1:1, you are doing it wrong.

>>148126070
>>148126061

In general points matter more.
For example, if you capped 3 points during the match while doing zero kills you were more useful than a Scout that was getting frags on brainless snipers.
Also assists add into that, milk extinguishing, saving the point, dropping ubers... there is just too much stuff to put it down into a simple K/D ratio.

The one thing you need to learn about Scout is that your strafe dodges are the most effective, never stand still, press A and D in semi-random pattern even when nobody is around, it will improve your survival.

>>148126168
i never understood how can you flick with high sens
it seems pretty tiring to me to just flail your arm around mousepad

t. 3cm/360 shitter

>>148126168
>irrelevant (dont use anything with global negative attributes like atomizer or sandman)
Atomizer has global negative attributes?
It's on par with Boston Basher, even better than Boston Basher if there are no Medics around.

>>148126327
>1v1s
>comp

im sorry what are we talking about again

i mean if your ratio is below 1:1 in a pub then youre obviously shit but pubs are pubs

>>148126327
why do you have to be so judgemental with people you don't know
dying for a med pick is worth it

>>148126441
welp, thought it used to give some negative shit to the scout, guess i was confusing it with something else.

>>148126363
if you have enough space in your desk and a half decent mouse its okay
also i think top scouts dont usually rely on flicks and try to get good mid-range positioning

why the fuck steam is so broken

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You know, if people would want to make Engineer relevant at all in Comp, what they'd need to do is disable all the forward spawn areas on Payload and 5CP maps. If the spawn point switches constantly it makes it completely impossible to set up proper tele networks because your entrance is suddenly in an abandoned area of the map or in the middle of the enemy rush. Suddenly, having a good Engie on your team would matter because you don't just get thrown into the match inches from the frontline anymore.

>>148126954
i think engineer is okay as it is now
a situational class
100% balance across all classes isn't possible, unless you make them all more "samey" wich would ultimately make the game less fun imo.
situational classes are fine, and 6s classes are fine.

>>148126954
teleporters are useless on 5cp anyway

>>148126954
they already improved teleporters by making them cost just 50 metal, or even 25 with the eureka effect
It's not that much of a waste of metal anymore, they're more disposable

>>148126954
With the recent teleporter buffs, I'd say Engineer is in a good spot.
If you were to disable forward spawns, you'd either have to run full-time engineer on both teams, or realize it's still too situational which in turn just slows the game down.

>>148127621
I fucking love that buff. Makes it easy as fuck to slap down a tele on offense and it saves me a shitload of time setting up on defense

>>148127337
>6s classes are fine.
That's blatantly wrong, given that only four out of nine classes are mainline relevant. Map design has much more influence on gameplay than you think. If comp was played on cp_orange, you'd see half the teams made of snipers.

I'm seeing that these maps in use at the moment are designed around making the Engineer obsolete by making the teleporters irrelevant. Or rather, making the engineer's lack of skill less important, since they're made for pubs and retards who couldn't set up a tele network if their lives depended on it If you're playing a 5CP map on a 12v12 pub, then the move from point to point is going to be such a slog through ridiculous masses of enemies that building tele networks actually makes sense given the time investment and the time taken to take the next point. On 6v6 comp, no such thing, given how fast points fall and move around. Engineer's literally just a last defense crutch there.

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>before this shitty update there were dozens of valve servers in which I could play with 5 ping

>try to use casual mode now
>they connect me to a fucking swedish server in which I have 300 ping repeatedly
>then penalize me for leaving

FUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOU

>>148128417
>>then penalize me for leaving
Look everyone! A retard spreading memes that have been dead since Saturday!

>>148127651
engineer is in a fucking awful spot.

takes AGES to get a lvl 3 sentry up and then it just gets blown up easily by a few solider or demo shots.

takes AGES to get a lvl 3 dispenser going which isn't even that relevant.

engineer without gunslinger is an extremely slow class, and as long as it stays like that it will never be viable in a comp setup.

to fix engi they whould have to do something like increase max metal to 600 and having him build stuff directly up to lvl 3 (if enough metal is carried) with the full metal cost (so building a lvl 3 sentry directly would cost 530 metal)

>>148128417
never had over 50 ping since i pasted this into my autoexec
tf_matchmaking_ping_a 50
tf_matchmaking_ping_b 80
tf_matchmaking_ping_c 150

>>148128505
Actually not, I just left one and couldn't join another because it was saying I left too many games too quickly.

Fuck you too :')

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>he didn't vote for pyro

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>>148128583
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=22797
>Second, abandonment penalties. We had put in a ten-minute cooldown period to encourage players to complete matches. Your feedback has convinced us that it is more important for players to be able to come and go as they please. Today's patch will remove abandonment cooldown penalties from Casual Mode.

>>148127941
nobody likes taking out automated sentries in 6s, it's supposed to be fast paced and dm-centric and a permanent engineer slows the game down enormously because both teams will have to wait for uber more often before they push

>>148128671
And your point is?

I have every patch and was just blocked from joining another game.

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so matchmaking is basically polished tournament mode
its what tf2lobby did years ago but worse

>>148127941
>cp_orange
why would you mention that crap
>6s classes not fine
they are the most versatile classes, but simple too
how is that not fine
you can even use permasniper if you got a good player, but then you have to replace a roamer or a scout
what would you want to play in 6s?
>pyro
>slower than scout, soldier, and demo in rollout
>good for defending last (reflecting and blocking enemy uber)
>heavy
>extremelly slow, good defending last
>engie
>being forced to play passive
>depending on sentries to be useful, good on last only if there's time to build a sentry
>sniper
>slow to mid
>same health that scout but with crap movement
>good for long-range picks
>spy
>weak as a perma-offclass, good as a surprise

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>>148128571
>takes AGES
Pic related.

Engineer is supposed to be a slower class, that's his thing. You don't want Engineer to suddenly pop down level threes in your face.

>>148128794
>nobody likes taking out automated sentries in 6s, it's supposed to be fast paced and dm-centric
From what I've seen, the only comp that matters from now on, the Valve comp, is supposed to be for a game called TEAM FORTRESS 2, not TEAM DEATHMATCH 2. If they ever bring out a game mode where some classes are just disabled, that would probably be what you're looking for. Until then, I'd like to see the classes brought onto a level where any mixed team fighting any mixed team has equal chances in comp assuming equal skill level.

>>148128816
Works on my machine ;)

>"Why does DM affect winning in a first person shooter?"
i swear people are retarded sometimes

>>148129090
A 6 man team with a spy, a sniper, a heavy, and a pyro just is not going to do as well against a well-balanced 6s team. There is nothing Valve can do to any of those classes without drastically changing them to make them any less situational and more viable to run full-time.

>>148129050
>jag
>build 30% faster
>die just as fast to a handful of sticks
>lmao build it all over again
This is why I run Gunslinger and park my Dispenser behind the mainline.

>>148129090
basically, the point they know you have an engie, its just a matter of time before a good team locates the sentry and blows it up
besides, the engi is a 100% defense class, it makes no sense to be engi from the start of a match

>>148129471
>100% defense class
not with unlocks. Use the gunslinger, widowmaker, frontier justice.
They're all offensive focused weapons

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R8 my dad

>>148129576
Or you could just play scout.

>>148129471
I've been running a Gunslinger engie for ages now and it's actually the most fun when playing on offense, especially around the long haul payload maps. Setting up a hidden tele in the backworks somewhere and dumping half your team into the back of their defense is as hilarious as it is effective.

>>148129576
it still is a very defensive class
you still depend mostly on minis to be useful, wich are like normal sentries but only take 2 rockets to be destroyed
frontier justice depends on people fucking your shit up to get a few shotgun crits with a slow moving class
widowmaker is pretty good and fun

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>>148129325
>die just as fast to a handful of sticks
Pic related.

>>148129873
>frontier justice depends on people fucking your shit up to get a few shotgun crits with a slow moving class
Or you could just blow it yourself. You have a button for that.

>>148129920
>drop four sticks
>push buttan
>it's gone
Yeah, go ahead and repair that damage while it's happening. Also try shooting them off with that thing, or your pistol, which you didn't pack because running a big sentry without a wrangler is like a fat kid swimming without waterwings. As I said, this is why I run Gunslinger. Lvl3s are paper dragons that need to be constantly pampered to stay alive.

>gunslinger engie
>plants a mini as soon as he sees you and backs off
>plants another mini after you destroy the first one and backs off
>takes 2 rockets to kill an engie
who thought it was a good idea to make a weapon that made the engi take 6 rockets to be defeated

>>148130284
Someone that made it so that if you shoot the mini right away you can 1shot it.

>>148130205
You're supposed to right click when you see stickies in the air near your sentry, come on.

>>148130442
Yeah, I'd rather run around shotgunning people and not caring about the sticks acumulating around my Mini instead of playing catch-the-hot-potato with a lvl3 sentry in my arms making me the biggest target this side of a taunting medic.

>>148130205
>unzip wrangler
>fire at ground to destroy stickies/blast them away
Pssh.

4th misc slot when

>>148130795
when you kill yourself

(you)

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every game

>>148110972
Anyone EU wanna play some ranked? I haven't really given it a shot yet and I don't want to play with shitters

>>148126954
fuck fucking autismgineer
until they figure out a way to make him not turtle the fucking shit out of games, he doesn't deserve to be changed even slightly
fuck

I want a (You) too.

>>148131708
Here you go.
Don't spend it all at once.

>>148131708
hey cutie what is your favorite thing to do in team fortress two?

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>>148131691
>turtle
>relevant anywhere but retarded pubs that can neither muster a single good demoman or a single uber

>>148132007
i just want to fuck around in pubs as scout, and there are never medics or good demomen in pubs
leave me alone fiend

>play mm
>get matched with jackylegs, adydsky, damneasy and other high-prem players
>play again
>get matched with the exact same team
>this time with 3 demos on their side
>get destroyed in record time
only 6s elitists want classlimits am i right guys? XD LOL

>>148132238
sounds like u got rekt

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rofl

quickplay fucking when

>>148112930
well that's just like, your opinion, man

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>>148130753
I knew about blasting but i don't know if you can shoot them to destroy them with the wrangler
>>148131647
>play 1 game
>they have a phlog pyro a heavy and an engi
>pick spy because it counters those pretty well
>wtf change from spy despite literally topscoring
>change to demo
>medic with 200 ping blames it on me and never heals me
>match ends and he blames me despite the fact that he only used the quickfix and ubered single targets and never heals me

i joined team pyro just so people would get mad when heavy gets ignored again

How long do I have to play MGE until I start hitting airshots?

>>148126441
>>148126647
>-30% swing speed
>-20% player damage

It was built for MvM and it died in MvM

>>148133849
>a third jump
>not useful in almost every situation
lol ur dumb

>decides to Medic on Comp
>2 matches, top score on both
>gets 2 silver medals in the first one
>doesn't matter in the end because half the enemy left after first round in both cases
We weren't even rolling, they were good games

>>148133373
>90 damage maybe if you are lucky every 2 seconds
>slow projectile
>people are overhealied 90% of the time so at best you can put a soldier at 210, big whoop
>healing takes away afterburn in 1 second so you can't combo flares at long range
>detonator damage and utility are just pitful
>lol manmelter
>wait, didn't pyro recieve a supershitty shotgun that goes against everything the name of the weapon stand for
5 words: knockback on uber from afar

for some reason when i try jumping on platforms to reach other medics can jump over, when i try doing it with medic i cant never hop

i got my jump binded to spacebar, does that make my jumps shorter?

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>play comp
>no med
>have to be medic
>can't carry and just watch retards flail around as I get killed by the scout that ran behind us uncontested for the 3rd time

>>148133948
Detonator is good for mobility, you can jump up to 266 Hu, and jump midair as well.

Manmelter got buffed, It is now just as fast as every other flaregun, and possibly the best one now, as you no longer have to rely on burning players for critical hits

>>148133961
Try crouching while you jump.

>>148133948
>>wait, didn't pyro recieve a supershitty shotgun that goes against everything the name of the weapon stand for
The Panic Attack is good when it's your main weapon, for example on an aggro engie. It's not actually good for rapid defense.

>>148133849
you shoudnt be using your melee in first place

>>148134147
>you no longer have to rely on burning players for critical hits
You do.
Your own teammates, with the difference that you have to be in airblast range to gain a crit, instead of from afar.
>266 Hu
at the cost of a third of your secondary damage and 40 hp, not very impressive
>>148134296
It's almost okay-ish on engi, but it's surpassed in damage from basically everything but rescue ranger and pomson

hi i just came to ask why this game is incapable of finding me a match in under 10 mins
i know my skill level is a massive factor but what was so wrong with the old system where you just hit play and found a game instantly

>>148134947
>what was so wrong with the old system where you just hit play and found a game instantly
good players stomping noobs on valve servers created a toxic atmosphere

>>148134947
the quality of the matches is kinda higher in casual, people seem to try more

>can't even chose the map you want to play on anymore

yay, it's becoming more like overwatch XD

>>148129659
breddy good
nice i like it

do any of you memers care for faceit because im in the closed beta and can invite 5 people

if not ill probs just go suck my brothers dick or something

>>148135538
i'm a pure bred shitter
can i get one

>>148135538
tfw faceit?

is it na?

>>148135538
yes pls

>>148135910
tf2*

>>148135964
>>148135910
>>148135789
it says i need your email so if you want it add me /id/obamaistheantichrist

i have 5 so first come first serve

>>148136094
no thanks

>>148131691
t. lost in overtime on upward

>>148134995
>mfw was autistic enough to play a match or two without friends in MM
>nfw see this
anon, you are just hurting yourself at this point

>>148130205
you're really bad at engineer

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>>148137516
>bad
>at engineer
>the easiest class in the game behind spy and wm1 pyro
xD

>>148137635
And you still manage to be bad at it.

>>148137745
ok friendo

Anyone been able to trade stuff in scrap.tf?
I've been trying to buy some hats for like 10 minutes now

>one faggot goes spy stays afk in spawn after his first life
>other faggot goes sniper, unable to hit anything
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/6/64/Demoman_taunts14.wav?t=20100625230412

Does anything happen if you click that badge while waiting for a match?

All I want is to play some Pass Time. I'm never getting matched.

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>>148138179
>using crap.tf

good goy

>Favorite class for Casual/pubs
>Favorite class for Comp

Mine:

>Demo
>Scout

>>148139821
>Soldier
>Medic

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>>148139821
demo/sniper
demo/medic,scout if i'm up against people that are much better than me

>Sniper
>Soldier/Scout

Who are we quoting?

>>148133849
You do over 100 damage in melee range, why would you choose to do 35 instead?
Scout should never take out his melee in combat!

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>>148139615
>crap.tf links to scrap.tf

>>148139821
>Engine recently/Pyro
>Medic

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>>148140210
>mfw is true

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>>148140210

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>>148139615
>>148140210
>>148140335
>Try it
>It works

Anyone in the EU want to go stomping about competitive mode?
Must be good at the game
Add me if interested http://steamcommunity.com/id/umjammerlammy123/

Im talking no pyros, engies, spys or snipers, not even scouts

Just spamming soldier demo and heavy to win, with a medic

>>148140710
>30 minutes of dota2
no thanks

>mfw our 6s team leader is a midget
>still more alpha than the rest of the team combined

>>148140710
>wants to stomp 6s
>no scouts
I question your TF2 experience

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>>148141241
post em

>>148134108
>solo queue as med
>scout flanks me repeatedly
>"scout behind"
>"scout on me"
>"soldier, behind us"
>"SOLDIER TURN AROUND"
>dance around in front of him
>continues to tunnelvision or JUMPS AWAY
Save me from this hell

https://imgur.com/a/U1gfV

looks p good tbqhimo

>join comp game
>have 200 ping
>not allowed to leave
On the plus side minisentry engie is a fairly effective backup.

>>148141609
fuck off

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>>148140710
>no scouts

>>148141609
Why are all the class icons the LE TUP OF THE HATTS xxD meme

>>148141241
In proper 6v6 they have class limits, they are only allowed 2 soldiers and 1 demo so thats why they also have 2 scouts

If there where no class limits they would just have another soldier and demo

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>>148141458

>Someone can leave competitive at any point and the game won't count.

Epic. People who ragequit from competitive don't give a shit. They exit out of the game entirely and do something else and I'm stuck with wasted time. Simply epic.

>>148142074
are you upset my brother?

>>148142142
I'm peeved, my dude.

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Does anyone even still craft hats?

So why the fuck i keep getting matched in Chile servers?

>>148141907
i can say 90% of my matches were solo queu
listen, you are the only variable and if ur team loses is ur fault ;^)

>>148142334
>why the fuck i

maybe you belong on south american servers with your shitty english lel

>>148142290
yes, for experiments

>>148142290
yes, not only is it a fuck the system move, but I also love gambling. I crafted the Tomb Readers, Chronomancer, and Weight Room Warmer for 3 ref each, so there has been some turnover, but it's uncommon to get a craft hat that is worth it

>>148141458
Teach me your ways, senpai. Do you communicate with your team? Were you in a situation where you team was full of no good shitters with no idea of how to play 6s? Do you just frag hard or do you try to organize your team?

>>148143640
Man I wish I could crush crates into metal, that would actually let me get some crafting done, my item drop queue is chock full of crates I'm not going to open.

>https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/f/fc/Eng_taunt_cong_fun_33.wav
>https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/c/c4/Scout_cartgoingbackdefense03.wav
>https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/f/fc/Eng_taunt_cong_fun_34.wav


are they really doing it

>>148141458
do the matches get easier to win in soloq after rank 1 if you are the carry

>>148143959
Why not delete them?

>>148144187
I got the space. I just don't see the point of dropping them if I don't want any. I'd like settings for the drop rate so I can opt into only dropping guns so I can craft more.

>>148144130
lololol

is it possible to ask to change the server for an official in ETF2L
theres certain servers that just lag so much

once again i get betrayed of my win by an abandon

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game coordinator went down and i got no elo

>>148144949
rewrite this sentence please

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>>148129659
You can get that hat without the muffs? THat's new.

This. Changes. Everything.

Rate your Dad's Dad.

>>148145331
once again i get betrayed out of my win by someone abandoning?

>>148145506
almost there
replace betrayed

>>148145503
>2016
>engineer STILL has no revolver sidearm
what the fuck valve

>>148145642
I say just give him the L'Etranger and have it drain Spy cloak. Nobody will complain about the damage it does.

>>148145596
cheated?
what's wrong with betrayed

>>148145746
implies some sort of double crossing
nobody promised they wouldnt abandon in pregame im assuming

>>148145726
>>148145642
I just found this when I googled it, this was back when we were still hearing whispers of Spy vs Engie, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYW8BsJ6dQs

>>148145870
>"hmm, people have been talking about wanting a revolver for engineer for quite a while, maybe we should give them one?"
>"Wait, we gotta ask the pros first"
>"hey b4nny, what do you think of a revolver for engineer?"
>"that class is for idiots"
>"huh guess they don't want a revolver"

>>148145845
*kisses you* >///<

*hisses you*

on one hand a pyro update could finally make him both viable and fun to play against

on the other hand there's pretty much no way valve isn't gonna fuck it up

26dollar is my little atom bomb
i wish she was in my wigwam

>>148147747
hmmm on the one hand you might be right but on the other hand you might be wrong hmmm

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i lost a round and got elo?

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I've run into a problem.
I want to play, but I get lonely when I play, since I can't really listen to streams while trying listen to sounds in games.
What is wrong with me.

>>148148127
just talk in game lol

>>148148127
play with me senpai :)

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>>148148272
I'm shy. I have literally never ever used my mic. I'm pretty sure I just have it for decoration.
Also
>Voice as high pitched as Justin Bieber's "BABY"

>>148148583
Just like- focus on constructing accurate sentences with you mouth

say what you mean and you'll do fine

>>148148583
how old are you

>>148148583
Actually talk about the game then

>>148148071
casual is not elo its xp
comp is not elo either, it's something so disgustingly perverse it can only be expressed as a number

>>148148127
join community servers
the people there usually have conversations while they play and you can listen to those

>>148131680
>>148140710

Add me if you need a demo/sniper for your stack. EU only.

>>148149041
47

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>>148149041
Almost 19

>>148149121
Loch'n'Load is useless now.
And I can't use The Sole Saviors with Ali Baba's Wee Booties/Bootlegger.

>>148141609
That does look real good

Too bad I'm committed to RayHUD

>>148147747
>pyro
>fun to play against a short ranged character with high fire rate and a post-mortem mechanic like afterburn

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>>148146067
>valve asking a comp solly/demo for balance advice
tf2 balance has been full of retarded shit for almost nine years, but it's still fucking impressive

>>148147747
making pyro fun to play against requires removing airblast entirely and making afterburn accumulate with each hit instead of being "lol have fun losing 60 health"
making pyro viable after that requires buffing flamethrower damage output, removing pretty much every afterburn cure, and a speed increase
we both know that not a single one of those will happen, and that's why i dropped the fucking game years ago

>>148149625
>making pyro fun to play against requires removing airblast entirely
>Remove one of the key aspects of pyro they added extremely early on because even on launch he was the weakest thing in the game

Now that TF2Hud+ is dead, any other custom hud that are just the stock hud but better?

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>>148149313
i didnt play casual though

the round after that i was matched with two pyro mains and a spy main who didnt want to go off their classes. we got absolutely fucked and now my elo/exp/rank is gone again either way.

i want to queue with tf2g but i got called gibus last time

>>148116751
isn't this against the rules?

>>148149803
you can modify toonhud to look similar, but no, I do not believe that there are working stock+ huds anymore

>>148118857
install gentoo

>>148150073
what rules

>>148149803
At this point I gave up and just went back to vanilla


I'm okay with this but boy the lack of stock+ style huds hurts my soul

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What mercenaries are uncut?

>>148149803
Improved default is the closest one left now: http://huds.tf/forum/showthread.php?tid=276

>>148150023
>but i got called gibus last time
maybe don't wear a gibus m8

>>148123552
is this a joke

>>148150448
Sniper, Engineer, Spy, possibly Pyro

>>148124223
where are south americans?

>>148150448
None of them, they had to get the baboon heart.

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>CPU spiking too 100% stuck at above 90%
>restart computer in less than 30 seconds
>open TF2 to rejoin comp game
"You are currently assigned to a match and must wait for it to finish."
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

I swear to fucking god it is impossible to climb ranks, it feels like a perpetual one step forward, two steps back. I barely have friends who also play TF2 so what can I do to carry shitters better?

>>148125983
this. what matters more is damage done. if you get a lot of kills, you could just have been getting lucky and getting the last hit on weak players. but if you do the most damage, you are undeniably the most valuable teammate.

>>148151039
>but if you do the most damage, you are undeniably the most valuable teammate.
or you could have just done damage and let them get away / get healed
most damage means jack fuck

>>148150940
D I G I T A L S P O R T S

>>148148127
>>148148583
>I'm lonely
>I'm shy though
You want someone to just hold a one-way conversation with you? That's not how it works.

>>148150464
This will have to do, thanks.

Really missing the old TF2 style menu in TF2Hud+ now, thanks Valve for gutting it.

>>148151007
queue with a pocket medic, I am available on US west between the hours of 10-2 California time. 90 hrs as the class and 930 hrs in game, if you're smart you shouldn't die with me around

>>148150940
Start > msconfig
remove all your startup shit you RAM hoarder
>restarting the PC because CPU is 100%
>probably having either shitloads of stuff open or a pre-2010 PC

>>148151404
>remove all your startup shit you RAM hoarder

thats a bad idea

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>>148151404
>did you plug it in
This just happens sometimes and explorer.exe & svchost.exe start using tons of CPU power. I suspect it's a problem with either my CPU or motherboard, since anti-rootkits haven't found anything.

maybe TF2 could let me fucking rejoin like it let me before instead of alerting me that "I need to finish the game!"

>RAM
what are you even smoking

>>148151730
>open task manager
>sort by cpu usage
>disable whatever's causing it if possible
simple

>>148151007
If you really think that you are better then the rest of your team, then eventually you should be able to eventually climb as long as you have an over 50% winrate. If you want to try and cut that time, 1 or 2 friends to play with is better then none. Particularly, having a pocket medic should help you carry the rest of the team if they are that bad.

>>148151858
>explorer.exe
>crashing your GUI
>with no survivors

>>148152295
>if possible

>>148152383
>explorer.exe & svchost.exe
did you read the post before replying to it

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>>148151554
what
why?
everything but the antivirus then
are you the kind of guy that has 30 different programs starting up with windows
>>148151730
>explorer.exe & svchost.exe
damn dude, theres no explanation for that other than a very shitty virus or something
try disabling aero totally? theres some good anti-rootkit tools like kaspersky TDSSKiller, you might not have to reinstall windows to get rid of it

>>148152295
you can restore it by hitting windows key + r
and then typing in explorer.exe

Intending to make this outfit. Thoughts?

>>148152295
I close explorer.exe all the time if something's fucking up. Just restart it in command.

>>148152470
oh i thought you meant services and all kinds of shit

that would be bad

also i just checked and i have 5 startup programs lol

>>148135137
The game should ask the players what map they want like they do in CSGO.

Jesus christ they're made by the same company, how didn't they think of so many things CSGO already did (and did right)

less frontier and thundermountain
more upward and badwater
please

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>>148152612
Gah fuck, R8 PLANNED OUTFIT

>inb4 "Scout is a Twink" comments

>>148152742
I play way too much fucking upward, a x10 server I go to only ever plays the same 5 maps and 80% of the time it's upward.

>>148152806
seems like random shit thrown together

>>148152516
>>148152620
yes, I have done that several times for my old 2002 dell laptop (Doom and Quake machine). IT does more than just crash your GUI though, it fucks with everything in some small way.

>>148152652
because the Skinned weapons(from CSGO) were poorly received

>>148152806
eww, where's the theme?

pyro idea: afterburn replaced with 'heat'

the more fire damage you take within a short time, the higher your 'heat' goes, not taking fire damage will lower your heat over time
higher heat has a more noticeable glow effect around the border of your screen and the fire on your character model glows more brightly
as heat increases, you take more damage from all sources and even more from all fire sources
you continue to take afterburn while your character's heat is above 0 but as the heat wears off the damage is less and less
flamethrower damage massively reduced to compensate
flamethrower range doubled, but falloff remains the same (deals 50% less damage at mid-range, 99% less damage at max range)

pyro moved to 'defense' classes
demoman moved to 'offense' classes

>>148152742
less payload more CP

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>>148151730
>svchost.exe
you can expand those to see what services are in that process

i suggest letting it do its thing and waiting until it's done

it might be doing something important

>>148152881
>>148152916
>halo
>combined with suspicious squint and bandit rag
I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir!

>>148152916
>because the Skinned weapons(from CSGO) were poorly received
That's the thing, TF2 didn't copy any of the GOOD mechanics from CSGO.

>>148153239
replace halo with the Texas Ten-Gallon or some other cowboy hat

>>148153308
I'm not trying to make a cowboy like every fucking engineer before me. I'm making a Full Metal Jacket reference.

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TF2 is....alive?

>>148153425
Do what you want but it looks kinda shitty and you'll probably get tired of having to explain what it's supposed to be.

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>>148152470
Yeah, idk. I always have one or two problems with my PCs that I can't find solutions anywhere besides decade-old forum posts with the OP saying "nvm i solved it" without explaining how

>>148151858
it would be nice if my cpu just didn't spike randomly and then sometimes stay up high

I can solve it when it happens easily but it's still annoying

>>148152916
I use a tweak that disables the shortcut icon on shortcuts but closing explorer.exe sometimes makes all shortcut icons covered in black.

>>148153104
Yeah, it doesn't help that I don't know what half the programs do. I'd spend time googling it, but to search it I have to use my browser with a 90%-100% CPU or else stop the problem, search, and then be unable to find out what was originally spiking.

Even though I have my automatic windows maintenance off, changing the date stops the spiking sometimes. I have no fucking idea why because it doesn't seem like windows is actually doing anything with it.

>>148149674
>making pyro fun to play requires removing his ability to constantly fuck with other players' aim and mobility and kill them with their own/their teammates' projectiles
never said it wasn't a large part of his overall power, just that it's a fucking mess

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>>148153239
nigga...

>>148153617
>Messing with aim
Airblast doesn't mess with aim. You're moved around a bit but you can still very easily shoot the thing that's doing it.

Airblast was put in so there was (some) counter to rocket/grenade spam.

>>148153617
*fun to play against

Are pubs back?

>>148153779
Sadly scout is one of my least played classes.