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Infamy edition

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http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-notes-058/

German™ Battleships™ soon™ (patch 5.9)
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Stat tracker/Stalk your favorite wowsg
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>Useful Information:
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>>147622526
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You are all wonderful people and I hope you have a great day playing warships with each other.
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>>147754258
There is nothing wrong with a little pudge.
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>>147756429
Have you gotten In N' Out yet?
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how can one ship be both sensual yet so modest and chaste?
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What a whore.
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The kawaiiest.

>>147756565
In-N-Out is overrated.
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>>147757671
>In-N-Out is overrated.
What heresy is this?
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>>147758562
He's right though. They have them here in Texas but they aint nothing special.
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>bongposter turns up
>walls of shitposting starts
what a coincidence
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>>147758786
One opened up in SA sometime last year. I don't really see the hype. Whataburger's better and has more stuff to choose from. And as far as "small menu done well" goes I prefer 5 Guys.
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Talked about this, Fengxiang finally sighed, but in the eyes of Iowa, Fengxiang sigh just tell her, oh opinion Fengxiang do not like to eat carp ‧‧‧ today on just food and wine in a proper way with carp carp sashimi Xijing burn for as long as it is animate Iowa fish belong to the unpalatable food, because she hates raw food, hate wasabi, but burned Xijing made fish dishes she'd liked, but today on the banquet and Without such care, so she would go along with the phoenix, which nodded.

"Oh, u can understand it? Ha ha."

Although Fengxiang laugh desolate, Iowa able laughed, but his mouth string chicken cartilage wants.

But then something happened, Iowa on laughing.

"How to say it, I do not really hate that people would want to complain, the man ah, although will always do people misunderstand things, but she is good hearted, and also I am very gentle, laughing it is also very good, but ah, they always like my hands and feet ‧‧‧ ah, not to say what she would manhandled me, but I really like to do things people shy ~ Oh, u do not want to know the contents, after all, are some very silly things ‧‧‧ "

After listening to a long list of such breath, let his mouth his mouth onions bamboo skewers some Touyunnaozhang Iowa, but she was trying very hard to move the brain, thinking about the front of the ship petite Mother say something.

Just before Iowa's mind began running at full speed, Fengxiang spoke again.

"Listen Mutsu said it was the expression of love Yeah, which I know is, it should not be rejected just ‧‧‧ this love is too heavy, and I'm not good at such a thing, if you like me, eating eat my cooking or drinking wine with me enough to die, obviously they can show as it will look in the face of the destroyer drink, but they will not drink with me ‧‧‧ 妳說 it, Iowa ? "
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>>147757671
>>147758786
>>147758980
Heretics and heathens, I'll sink your shipfus.
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"Although reluctant drinker bad she accompany me to drink a bit too much, but as each partner, should exercise patience compromise, right? So let me occasionally, it does not matter, right? After careful thought will find that although she is quite care I like to accompany me to buy daily necessities, for me to mention the basket, help moving furniture, send me clothes and shoes or precious stones, but also for my car to buy a portion of it, I remember when I was just water, a lot of money for a car now actually rely on his monthly salary mother ship will be able to easily buy ‧‧‧ "

Iowa too chicken skin too greasy, eat a bunch of put the plate pushed back for a dish to eat chicken gizzards, Iowa had never eaten chicken gizzards, this is the first time to eat, but she felt this stuff very chewy, very palatable, they eat a few strings, but eating too, and almost choked her cough a while before Shun got gas.

"Time flies ah, unknowingly have been nearly a hundred years of it, I remember now so there is no confusion of morals, we are quite happy it flies, then we often go to overseas travel, often with national ship Mother banquets, with four seasons flowers, with the festival celebrating ‧‧‧ then ‧‧‧ Oh, this is not no different now with it? really, what in the end so I complain? "

Iowa know do not like fat-rich foods, Mamiya will be brought out of yakitori chicken breast and mushrooms with roasted vegetable skewers some of the corn and the like to serve.

Mamiya those things are there with Ira Lake Fengxiang before the banquet began making together, because the mother ship among some big eaters of food to eat alone two ships are fussy, so we have been accustomed to do for big eaters Fengxiang natural rice is the best helper.
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>>147758971
oh look holmes is still salty. rapespammer is anu's boyslut ergo not me
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>>147759219
what has holmes got to do with any of this?
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what the fuck
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>>147759516
take your indian cock lust out of here holmes noone wants to deal with you tbqh, aspie
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>>147758980
5 guys is overpriced as shit
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It keeps happening
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>>147759878
cell phone networks should have been global banned years ago tbqh
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fuck off to pastebin fanficfaggot this is a place to talk about actual ships, not your favorite lesbian anime shipgirls

>Arizona
>Still not de-nerfed
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>>147759752
didn't like my little comment on your video now did you?
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>>147760102
and she never will be
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>>147759794
Tastes better than In-N-Out, and if I want something comparable to In-N-Out, Whataburger has them beat.

Come visit the USS Texas or USS Lexington and have a Pattymelt or A-1 Thick N Hearty burger
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discord channel where
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>>147760257
.inb4 copy paste autist transcribes his entire story to audio and floods the channel with a yuri audibook
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>>147760437
kek
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>>147760257
I've been wondering why we don't have a discord yet. I been meaning to make one
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Nagato scared and quickly look to Fengxiang, when she found Fengxiang also been blushed, smiled at himself. Could they have been playing it? Even Nagato erupted ears are red. "I just like the u ah, so I do not doubt because of what others have Bini good benefits like others ‧‧‧ okay?" Fengxiang say, Nagato no solution. Fengxiang is because of this, it has been so long the door to take her Mozhe. "Although the old people say that I am also a strong ‧‧‧ than Fengxiang u but they will not understand, they do not understand is the most terrible ‧‧‧ Fengxiang" "Oh? What do I say something wrong?" Fengxiang seems to own just say the words no consciousness. "I, ah, in this world fear most, ah, not a ship is not a habitat with Musashi Japanese nor the Iowa ‧‧‧" "How, how?" Nagato sighed, a little helpless but the heart but it is practical. "My greatest fear, is to Fengxiang u ah"

<Ends>
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>>147760919
discord is a shit meme tbqh
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>>147760919
>>147761000
make something, fuck i don't know
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what is happening here
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>>147761183
rapespammer returns with a vengence
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>>147760919
>>147760257
>>147761000
>>147761182
https://discord.gg/nWqNh

It's been dead since May though
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>Someone talks about the game
>Gets accused of blogging
>Someone literally blogging
>Everyone sucks his dick
What the fuck?
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>>147761464
fuck off autispara
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>>147760919
What the hell is a "discord" anyways?
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>>147761640
a reddit meme
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Whos the guy whos been running around with my name lol

Btw im the real tioga
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>>147761942

>real tioga

prove it
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>>147761942
probably luckner desiring your cock in his asian boipucci again
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>>147759752
Where are Holmes and Noone to meet? How shall the dispute between them be settled?
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>>147762110
Alright
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>>147762443
you look nothing like him tbqh, fat fuck faketioga
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>>147762625>
Why would anyone who spends 8 hours a day in an office working and the rest of the day playing videogames be anything but overweight lol
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>>147762968
did you dropout already fuck dude
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>>147762114

>vonluckner
>asian

pick one
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>They nerfed Arizona
I told you, after everyone bought it, they nerf it. I fucking called it.
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>>147763814
now we just need to push >muh disrespecting the graves of 6000 americans
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>>147763960
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>>147763814
I'm not surprised that WG nerfed it, what gets me is that they nerfed it in less than a week after the Arizona's release.
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>>147763814
The funny thing is that it's still a really fucking good ship.

Honestly they might not have nerfed it at all and it was just 1.8 the whole time on the server. We all know the stuff on the client doesn't mean shit since all the calculations are done serverside.

Then again it does mean that now WG can stealth nerf any ship as long as they """forget ))))""" to update the clientside values.
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>2 out of 5 missions complete
>Still over 100 kills to go for Mikasa
This is gonna take forever.
I've tried all classes and I feel CV is the only one you actually have some control over what you kill since you can steal kills. Mostly if I'm caught stuck reloading that I can't get the killing blow.
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>>147766553
>not playing BB to get tons of kills
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>>147766553
KAMIKAZE R~
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>>147766794

Will there be another event like that?
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>>147767636
>Free and good ships from WG
You expect too much.
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>>147767882
But new players can get Texas from WG for free thru the Refer A Friend program

I hope they do this for other servers as well.
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Been out of the loop ever since Overwatch released. How's the Arizona? Why was it nerfed and how much did its nerf affect it?
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If you could bring any Warship back to life and commandeer her into battle, which would you choose?
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>>147770267
hardly a question
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>>147770267
There's no other answer

Real shame it wasn't preserved as a museum, of all ships that served she was the most deserving of it.
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How do we fix Nagato?
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>>147770267
i will love to comand her feminine dick
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>>147770267
The obvious choice.
Best looking BB.
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>>147767882
Well the Mikasa event is kind of like that. I just liked all the fanfare and shit surrounding it. I don't really like DDs so the journey was more fun than the destination

>>147770267
USS Prinz Eugen or USS Nagato
I have a thing for piloting captured enemy vehicles
Especially if they get a new paint scheme
Otherwise, USS Texas. Modernize its weapons & armor and put a Whataburger in the mess hall
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Botebutt.

I basically agree with >>147758980. I mean, animal style is okay, but I'd rather get a Texas Patty Melt. Or Five Guys.

Also,
>SA
Another anon here? Oh my.
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>>147771382
>USS Nagato
She was never commissioned into the USN, only Prinz was. Neither was Sakawa.
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>>147771382
>USS Nagato
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>>147771515
>>147771574
Fine, my mistake. She was still a war prize/nuclear punching bag. Close enough as far as captured enemy tech is concerned.
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>tfw the god of MM smile on you
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>>147771507
Austin a shit. 210 represent.
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good night /wowsg/
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>>147770569
I'd relive her and ground her somewhere to let it rot.
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I can't properly express how hyped I am for my mikasa
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Just had a 157k damage battle in Tirpitz where i completely assdestroyed two Atagos, a Mogamin, and a Fuso, so sorry but you're waifus are as good as dead.

On a sidenote, a Colorado received like 12k dmg from the stern at 16 km or so with just one shell and an overpen, i was honestly surprised about that.
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>>147773003
>being hyped for one of the shittiest ships in the game

come on now
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Opinions on the new german BB line?
I need Bismarck in my life and I played lots of games with the USN BBs just to git gud and not suck with her.
pls don't tell me they are gonna be shit ;_;
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>>147772950
you sound pretty homosexual tbqh famalam. you might be more interested in submarines in the other game.
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>>147773003
Post generic moeblobs
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>>147773437

>All this Texas and talk about what-a-burger

Texas best state :'^)
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>>147773778
they killed jews so of course they're gunna be shit. german equipment never has and never could have been what we could ever call good, but you'll still shekel out for it, dear goy.
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>>147773968
>hot
>bad food
>fat people
>fat mexicans
>mexicans
>colonized by californians
>uneducated'
>bad beer
texas is shit m8
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>>147774201

t. Salty non Texan
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>>147773778

See >>147773437

If you can close up distances with your enemy at the right time with some support you're unstoppable because she has a very strong armor, a very high hp pool and somewhat decent guns.
As long as you keep the distances below 18 km the guns work nicely (if RNG is on yoir side) otherwise you have to be really accurate and have insane luck to hit anything because of bad dispersion.
She's a brawler BB so you have to rush in the right moment in the right section of the map to make the most out of her.
What i absolutely loathe of BBs in general is the frequency with which guns seems to be turning to peashooters due to overpen.
Some matches where you shoot very accurate shots are plagued by overpens, some other times you aim less accurately and you strike ludicrous citadels.

In my opinion an accuracy/consistency buff is auspicable, but WG would never buff her because shitters would cry.
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>>147774403
#surfinon6thstreet
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>>147774706
>Brawling with USN BBs was the shit
>Bismarck is a brawler BB
>mfw
fuck am hype af.
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>>147773667
It's an absolute tank and I think I can really make it work as a brawler

I also have an intense weakness for meme ships
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anu get on.

t.greg
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>>147758562
W H A T A B U R G E R
H
A
T E X A S
A
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Caliber wise, USN goes like this:
305>356>406 mm

We know that H41 will have 406 mm cannons and Bismarck 380 mm, what about the lower tiers, with the exception of Gneisenau of course which has 280 mm.
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>>147776939
https://imgur.com/a/DR5YU
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Fun!
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If you look real close, you can spot a little bit of rudder poking out.

>>147774201
>bad food
>bad beer
Get the fuck out.

Stop making me want Whataburger, faggots.

>>147772709
Neat. We'll pass by each other at an HEB or something like ships in the night.
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>>147777387
>8 hits
>825 dmg
"Just shoot AP at everything."
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>>147777387
>its another abrachs brother is a shitter and is ruining his dead brothers stats episode
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>>147776939
I thought I heard Gneisenau will be upgradeable to 3x2 380mm
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>>147777387
>hipper is good
>colorado is good
>colorado is bad
>warspite
>AA
>german cruisers
>IJN gunbotes
>anumati is best at CVs
>F22xRaptor

What are some of /wowsg/'s favorite memes?
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>>147778504
Nagato being a rapist.
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>>147778504
My favorite meme is a certain anons ridiculous generosity

Seriously I mean wtf
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>>147779071
>certain anons
which ones, there are like 3 or 4
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>T6-8 match
>Farragut pulls a Wyoming onto our team

When will WG fix this shit
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>>147779129
There is only one in my heart and in the hearts and minds of those who believe
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>>147779071
jake was raped by a big name ceo from sachs. thats probably who your talking about. he likes to help losers like himself out with his settlement monies
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>>147779227
Anumati
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>>147779071
>never feel comfortable asking for anything because I mostly lurk and my stats are below average
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>>147779560
you should flaunt how much of a shitter you are. if you meme hard enough anu might still suck your dick
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>>147779560
I only wish I had a saipan.

T. Seabad
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>>147778504
izumo is a shit
really old pic
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>>147780247
Izumo IS a shit tho
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>>147777387
Hipper is good, just don't get too cocky and use HE sometimes.
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>shooting at a fuso
>shoot a nice broadside at 13km from my pensacola
>suddenly a low health friendly DD pops up from behind an island to yolotorp him
>a couple of my shells RNG into him and sink him
>you is of teamkiller tovarish ))) pink now!
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dont die on me thread
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reminder that iowa only had 30.8mm of upper deck armor and would have been raped by even an 6in gun had murrifats not been to pussy to actually fight with them
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>friend referral w/rewards
>tfw none of my friends are even vaguely interested in a game like this

Fuck
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>>147783471
reminder that murrica still won the war regardless
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>>147783560
aleast they all know your an autistic wg addict now and will steer well clear
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>>147783560
When does that referral thing end?
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>>147783560
>one of my friends decided to try it out because of how much time I spend playing it
>we have a great time fucking around in low tiers as they're getting into the game
>like 2 days later his computer dies
rip in piss
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>>147783471
Here's your (You)
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>>147783641
There isn't a time frame as far as we know. Should be coming to other servers SoonTM
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>>147783629
>>147783729
>If you deviate in anyway from the american gospel of pseudo history your wrong
>i'm to autistic to actually study my literal meme ship
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>>147784281
So we're going to completely ignore the secondary armor deck that covers the citadel right?

There's not following the American gospel and there's just being plain wrong.
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>>147784281
>murrica
>had meme ships
>still won the war

wat did japon do rong
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>lob some torps at an enemy BB
>perfect shot, he's not paying attention
>suddenly a friendly DD makes a hard turn straight across the path of my torps
>I get to sit back and watch as he sails full steam ahead into a salvo of torps he should fucking notice at some point
>dies
>starts screaming in chat about how I shouldn't be firing torps from behind friendlies

What the fuck is wrong with people, YOU GET ALARMS AND MARKERS FOR FRIENDLY TORPEDOES. YOU CAN SEE THEM COMING A MILE OFF.
BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS MY FAULT YOU'RE A BLIND PIECE OF SHIT
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>>147784470
yes because irl isn't about 1 shotting niggers. getting taken out of action works fein. also 18.1in and even basic 14in gives zero fuck's about the 4.5in above the citadel
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>>147784693
What is Nagato's face meant to imply there?
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>>147784281
oh i forgot that you're from the timeline where the nips won with their vastly superior rustbuckets :^)
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>>147784470
>getting a hole the size of a swimming pool blown into your deck and hundres of men killed isn't rellevant
:^)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsbEkQBYZPQ
Even with 1.8, shes still so beautiful.
God bless ;_; o7
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>>147784281
Who cares if the Iowa was a meme bote, she's not the one sleeping at the bottom of the ocean :^)
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>>147784551
>>147784759
>cower at home shell shocked from ww1 which you fought in for 2 months
>let australians and british commonwealth do all the work for literal years
>abandon every major territory holding
>lose every battle to the nips until coral sea
>take more than a year to make use of your litteral cheats, population and manufacturing base
>still need to fight tooth and nail every battle with the nips
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>>147784834
Why are hundreds of your men outside of the citadel in the middle of a gun fight?
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>>147785176
>still win

fugg
how does one country be so bad but still so good
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>>147785176
>don't be dumb
>win the shit out of the war and come out of it vastly more powerful with the added bonus of not having your country all fucked up
even got to build the 2nd best looking BBs of the war after the Hotels
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>>147785528
Iowa has no armor, I would contest calling it a battleship
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>serendipity
i really thought that Myoko was better than shchors
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>>147785682
not like it matters much either way desu, she still has nice guns
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>>147785782

Luis pls ;_;
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>>147786305
>she still has nice guns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T3rvxlz03U
iowa's loading mechanisms were disgustingly antiquated tbqh
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>tfw excited for german BBs
>realise they're probably going to suck shit like the cruiser line anyway

why bother
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>>147785176
>cower at home shell shocked from ww1 until the French, Italians, Czechs and Soviets all give up expecting anything of you
>let the Poles and French do the dying for you, and then attack their navy in port when they figure they've had enough
>lose every battle to the nips until the Burma counteroffensive in 1943
>take more than a year to make use of your litteral cheats, islands and colonial empire
>still depend on US lend-Lease to hold out until the USSR and US make the Japanese give back all the colonies you couldn't take back
>end up abandoning nearly every major colony anyway
"Great" Britain indeed :^)
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>>147787045
>end up abandoning nearly every major colony anyway
that was the deal imposed by the soviets and the burges to help
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>>147787012
nice looking bows
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>>147787012
Any ship can do well if played correctly.

Git gud.
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>>147787291
Why make a bad ship good if I can make a good ship great?
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>>147787223
it's for the best desu
they knew that someone had to put an end to perfidious albion
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>>147787223
Maybe Great Britain wouldn't have had to meet such extravagant anticolonialist demands if they hadn't done a half-assed job defending Burma and Singapore.

Hong Kong gets a pass because that scrap of land is basically indefensible.
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>>147786398
>tfw you'll never get to take a look around inside hotel's main turrets
man why couldn't the nips have just been smarter and stuck with the allies instead of getting all their nice boats blown up over some shitty chinese land
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>>147787710
>man why couldn't the nips have just been smarter and stuck with the allies
The US made the UK break its relationship with Japan. Also Japan's Friends and America's Friends were not friends.

Japan would have had to eventually come to blows with the European colonies (the Dutch East Indies in particular) and the allies if they wanted any chance of being able to use the Yamato without being dependent on the US or the Netherlands.
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>>147785186
I'm just going to let you think for a second how iowa's AA battery is manned. I want you to reflect on how retarded you are.
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>>147788271
People will
>gunfight
>AA
at you, but stuff like Taffy 3 really did have both occurring at once.
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>>147788271
Nobody manning the AA batteries on top of the deck in the vicinity of the impact area is going to be protected from a shell hit anyway, penetration or not.
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>>147788619
so we agree. if the iowas had seen combat even against cruisers and sustained hits their casualties would have been substantial and would have taken them out of commission. shitty design desu
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>>147788785
>so we agree. if the iowas had seen combat even against cruisers and sustained hits their casualties would have been substantial
Same could be said of Nelson, Prince of Wales or literally any ship where people will be operating AA weapons on deck. I'm not sure why you're expecting deck armor to protect people who are operating outside of its protection.
>and would have taken them out of commission
Not without a citadel penetration, which cruisers are incapable of doing.
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>>147787920
It's not like Japan really had any friends after the Anglo-Jap alliance broke down anyway, sure they ended up in the Axis but it's not like they actually gained anything from it, might as well not have bothered with the damn thing especially seeing as they were able to work out a neutrality pact with the USSR after their own battles in the east.
Had they not tried to stake their entire empire just so they could take over the clusterfuck that was China they probably wouldn't have had to deal with whitey cutting off all their oil, and could have eventually ended up with a mutual enemy of the Allies in the Soviet Union, which was the other main non-American threat they were worried about in the first place.
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>>147788979
>Had they not tried to stake their entire empire just so they could take over the clusterfuck that was China they probably wouldn't have had to deal with whitey cutting off all their oil, and could have eventually ended up with a mutual enemy of the Allies in the Soviet Union
If you're fighting the Soviet Navy you really wouldn't need the Yamato class tbqh. You'd be better off using the resources to get the IJA to make some actually decent tanks to defend Korea and Manchuria instead.

Not that the IJN would accept that.
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>>147788619
you should also note that Iowas 5in turrets while the magazines are protected by citadel armor the loading room isn't. that's more than a dozen men per turret
.>>147788970
the difference is that iowa a ship designed after yamato unlike nelson designed in the 1910's and wales had a massive crippling weakness for the sake of speed when they shuld have known better in the late 1930's. You aren't going to be sailing a ship for very long missing 50% of you crew quarters or ability to feed people. engoy repairing for 6 months+ when had you given it adequate deck armor you wouldn't have had to care. thankfully the US knew they were shitbirds so they held them back far as fuck from fights.
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Goodnight /wowsg/! See you all tomorrow!
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I can't believe they don't just disable detonations in ranked. Just had a game in which 2 of the enemy DDs detonated five minutes into the match. It was a slaughter from there. Flags shouldn't be mandatory to not get instagibbed.
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>>147789375
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>>147789375
>>147789438
What's with these two?
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>>147789352
>that's more than a dozen men per turret
Holy shit anon, that's a whole 240 men out of nearly 2800 crew, assuming 100% casualties and literally every single 5-inch turret completely destroyed. What ever will the Iowa class do?
>You aren't going to be sailing a ship for very long missing 50% of you crew quarters
Any battleship that has received hits covering 50% of its deck area and (according to your scenario) has also lost every single one of its secondary guns will be spending 6 months+ in repair, deck armor or not.
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>>147789135
Well obviously, hell there's not really any situation where they needed the Yamatos, no matter what happened. ;_;
It's just interesting to think about what could have been had the place not been crippled by the completely retarded mess that was a military government that was out of touch with reality and made of two branches that seemed to hate each other almost as much as the enemy.
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>>147789749
While Yamato was being built, Hosho was placed besides her to block the view of her construction from curious eyes. So in a sense, she was like a mother to her.
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>>147789991
>mother
that's not the impression I've gotten
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>>147790084
With all the canonical siscons in kancolle, is it really shocking that there might be mother-daughter incest too?
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>>147789375
goodnight
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>>147789991
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>>147790084
bad Hotel! bad Hotel!
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>>147789897
Of course all this is irrelevant when Yamato musashi and nagato would have completely gone though the 4.5in citadel roof. meanwhile Yamato's 8in deck wouldn't have cared. good thing Iowa the meme ship never saw combat I guess. perhaps then your historical delusion wouldn't be so apparent. My scenario was only an iowa getting ambushed at night (muricucks couldn't fight at night for the longest time because pussy) by a few cruisers Iowa would have lost. good thing You cuckistanis were to pussy to ever use her amirite?
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>>147790239
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>>147790182
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>>147789976
>and made of two branches that seemed to hate each other almost as much as the enemy.
It couldn't be helped. Japan's navy had consistently embarrassed itself for the last five hundred years before the restoration, whereas Japan had always maintained a strong martial tradition on land.
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>>147790514

DELETE THIS.
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>>147790514
Stop trying to falseflag the hotelposter. He would never post such a shitty pic. And he's already gone to sleep. >>147789375
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>>147789812
ran out of planes 11 minutes in. now just hide in a corner and alt-tab out of the game.

Did you know the lex has a detectiion range of like 17.5km and the essex is about 14?
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rapespammer are you there? I could use a div.
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>>147790785
who are you
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>>147790654
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>>147790831
A man who wants to watch the world burn.
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Is this bizarro hotelposter now? Late night sure is weird.
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>>147790991
considering my current hotel no not Yamato internet and lack of the latest update, it'll have to be a no.
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>>147790551
Really didn't help that the two branches were founded by clans that hated each others guts either.
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>>147790513
>Of course all this is irrelevant when Yamato musashi and nagato would have completely gone though the 4.5in citadel roof.
And whose roof/citadel would the Yamato's 46cm plunging fire have been unable to penetrate? Iowa would have been annihilated, yes, but it's not really a standout weakness when every battleship planned and built (apart from sekret Soviet BB of course) would have been similarly eviscerated.
>meanwhile Yamato's 8in deck wouldn't have cared.
Again, Iowa doesn't really stand out here, no battleship actually built in the world would have had an easy time getting through 8 inches of deck armor, shitty quality or not.
>My scenario was only an iowa getting ambushed at night
>muricucks couldn't fight at night for the longest time
So, the nine months between Badang Strait and Guadalcanal? None of the Iowa-classes had completed their shakedown cruises before the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal where radar proved its worth. Japan's ablity to pull off a successful ambush were basically mitigated by the time Iowa was functional enough to actually be ambushed.
>by a few cruisers Iowa would have lost.
Even if they had managed to successfully pull off the Ambush, American radar > excellent Japanese optics at night. The Kirishima's 36cm couldn't break a partially-disabled Washington at Guadalcanal; what could a a few Takao-classes have done?
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>>147791276
>36cm
35.6cm
autism
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>>147791276
>The Kirishima's 36cm couldn't break a partially-disabled Washington at Guadalcanal; what could a a few Takao-classes have done?
Minor note, but I recall that Takao and Atago were at that very same battle, so, yea, there's your answer.
I can't recall if they scored any hits though, or even fired.
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Please pray for the safety of our friend greg
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I LOVE MIKASA AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO ADMIT IT
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ITD HABBENIN AGAIN
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http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9556372&_ff=441&rand=190
parameter of Grosse Kurfrst from chink forum
>88000hp
>18.2concealment
>turning radius 1050m
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>>147794647
Thread locked and hidden, take screenshots please?
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>>147794647
It better go 35 knots and have a rudder shift of 8s or something, then.
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>>147794647
Nice meme bro
literally no chance this is true.
screenshotted to prove you wrong
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in b4 Bisko is as disappointing as Hipster
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>>147795502
S M O O T H
F L A T
D E C K
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>>147795502
Good lord thats a sexy looking ship

Yamato still the best brothel
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>Trying to play Arizona after getting something to eat
>Teams will literally not be shit
>Play one in Ryujo, rage carry the team
>Play another game in Arizona, half the team is dead again in less than 10 minutes
STOP BEING SHIT.
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>>147795502
>>147795639
>>147795757
What nation in-game has the sexiest BB bows? I'm torn. They all have their charm points.
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Nothing like the GUI taking infinite time to load.
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>>147795858
Hotel's is the best by far.
That's some aesthetic shit right there.
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>>147796195
hp
deck armor
armor belt
torp damage reduction
speed
rudder shift time
turning radius
surface detectibility
Air Detectability
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What are the chances they'll just sell Mikasa later? Trying to get 150 kills is fucking annoying since I'm only averaging about 2 kills a game.
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>>147796516
Mikasa is an absolute garbage ship. It just isn't worth it.
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>>147796556
Not even for seal clubbing? I could put my 15 point commander on it and curb stomp newbies.
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>On the nerfing of Arizona
Premium ships should be subject to nerfs where appropriate. The ships of one nation in particular have been crying out for it for some time and it would have set a better precedent to openly nerf them instead.

>>147767882
Katori is a lulzy sealclubber.

>>147785176
>Only took six months to put the Japs on the back foot

>>147789429
Just install Magazine Mod 1)))))

>>147795673
>Buy Texas as first Premium
>Do pretty crummy
>Month later, buy New York
>Do awesome
>Wow I really improved over the month!
>Return to Texas for some retraining
>Every time, abandoned by allies on my flank and focused down, 20k damage
What the fuck is wrong with this ship?
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>>147796195
So what does this have over the Montana?
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>>147796707
You would think it would be a good seal clubber but the matchmaking it gets in will make you bang your head against the wall. That one time you are top tier you will have fun but other than that you will get shit on.
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Here are (what I judge to be) the most important stats of the t10 Battleships.

Source:
>http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9556372
ingame client
leddit
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>>147796985
>319 @ 5km
Fucking hell, that's almost the NC's AA suite combined
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>>147797102
Indeed, but keep in mind that Manual AA will only work on 124 of that DPS, and it has next to nothing (64) in terms of close-range AA
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>>147796985
The German navy was well-known for its overwhelming successes against Allied airpower.

I don't understand.
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>>147796985
>>147797102
124 for long-range AA 5.2km
192 at medium range AA 5.0 km
62 at close range AAkm
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>>147796985
>Worst HP
>Worse Deck
>Worst Belt
>Worst TDS
>Best rudder
>Worst turning circle
>Worst detectability
>Worst sigma
>Worse calibre
>Worst reload
>Worst HE
>Worst AP
>Best velocity
>?
>Worse Krupp
>Best turret rotation
>Worse AA
So uh... why would you ever use this floating pile of shit?
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Can someone tell me when the Freedom missions end? How long do I have until to get those 150 kills?
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>>147797376
For the sake of this comparison, I've used only the 5km and 5.2km AA numbers, as long-range AA is the AA that will spook CVnts the most.

>>147797385
The normalisation of the shells is actually worse than Montana's (6) and Yamato's (5.5), which is bad, but I couldn't remember the exact stats so someone else will have to find them
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>>147797385
>worse AA
>DOUBLE the AA memes of montana
idiot
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>>147797267
The next to nothing close range AA doesn't really mean much i think. Planes are only in that for like a second before they drop their planes, at most.
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>>147797274
>doubting sekret German Science
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>>147797385
Here's your (You), faggot.
It's going to be a solid BB.
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>>147797534
>300 bofors DPS and 200 Oerlikon DPS doesn't mean anything
epic bro
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>>147797385
I don't think you realize that putting different nations in doesn't mean putting in the best or worst but something different.
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>>147797750
You mean that AA that fires for a second before the Hakuryu drops 11/12 of his torpedoes on you?
Yeah very useful stuff
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>>147795502

is that supposed to be the tier X?
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The real question is if it will have its bow overmatched by the yamato
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also
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>>147798295

you seriously expecting its bow to NOT be overmatched by 18in AP? Its Wargaming and this is a german ship so its going to be outright mediocre to her peers.
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>>147798637

VIVE

LA

FRANCE!
>>
Will probably start playing this garbage tomorrow, are garbage gook carriers worth it? any transferable experience from world of garbagetanks/armored garbafare?
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>>147798637
2-0
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>>147798937
bin yourself you human landfill
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>>147798937
>are garbage gook carriers worth it?
They're the only carriers worth playing at the moment.
>any transferable experience from world of garbagetanks
No
>armored garbafare?
why the fuck would you even think that?
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>>147799007
games are all garbage, don't you know that?
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>>147798637
wait
WAIT
ITS HAPPENING
THANK YOU BASED WG
I was hoping for Richelieu but Dunkerque is good too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g
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You are now imagining permanently losing a battery in your frog BB
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>>147799374
Historically, Dunkerque and Richelieu both had armor bulkheads bisecting each quad turret and protecting the other half (the two pairs of guns elevated and depressed separately of each other anyway).

I doubt WG will make any effort to model that in-game, though.
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>>147799509
Didn't that actually turn out to be useful at one point too? I think I remember something happening to one of the turrets (explosion or it took a shell or something) and the other half was able to continue being used while one half was knocked out
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The better question is how the French BB bow armor is going to be.

I'm guessing we're thinking Dunkerque is going to be a tier 7?
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>>147799796
Probably, it would make sense with the Richelieu being T8, and the Alsace being T9 with some full-blown asspull paper stuff in T10.
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>>147799762
Dunkerque took a British 15-inch shell in its second turret, but only half the turret was disabled.

>>147799796
It'd only make sense, Scharnhorst was designed directly to take on the Dunkerque. Armor-wise, French designs from Dunkerque on were all-or-nothing, so odds are you're going to get overmatched in the bow.
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>>147799796
>>147799984
Found this, for what it's worth.
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>>147799984
Well, NC was all-or-nothing, too, and yet it bounces nearly everything with the right angling.
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>>147798637
I know it's a joke that French and Italian ships/tanks go faster backwards than they do forwards, but with that gun layout I kind of hope it's true.
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>>147800232
I have no idea what speed it does in reverse but apparently they'll do just over 30kts forward, which is pretty neat.
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Anyone know the story with the Emdems 1st smoke stack? As you can see in this picture, it shows all 4 smoke stacks evenly distanced apart and all with the same visual appearance. But if you look at the Emdem now, it's moved to where the red circle is and it looks like it's made out of canvas.
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>>147798637
and her stern:P

Source: http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9556798&_ff=441&rand=246
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>>147800585
>To maintain secrecy, Emden's crew rigged up a dummy funnel to give her the appearance of a British light cruiser. She then steamed up the coast of Sumatra toward the Indian Ocean.[20]
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>>147800585
The last smoke stack is a fake one to misleading people into thinking it's a British ship
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>>147800602
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>>147800602
Well her face is a lot cuter than her butt.
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>>147795502
>>147795639
>>147795757
No catapult plane? They aren't going to do something crazy and give her radar, are they?
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>>147800602
Oh baby
Man I can't fucking wait for this, fuck the Kraut BBs I want my frogbotes even if it wasn't my first preference
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Huh, that's a lot of credits
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>>147800602
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>>147800792
The catapult is right there between the two rear turrets.
Probably haven't finished making the plon yet or something.
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>>147800808
You completed one of the mikasa missions, it gives 1 mil credits.
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>>147800795
Man, Richelieu would be so much better with manual secondary control.
>Run up to enemies blasting with 8x 381mm AP
>turn around and just kite them with 9x 152mm HE
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>>147800873
Oh I see. I guess I can't judge the scale of the thing, that looks too narrow to fit a plane through.
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>>147801025
Yeah I'm realizing now that it would hella awkward to actually try and launch anything off there without some wonky turret positioning or something
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Did u have guys graf spee in game pictures?
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>>147801067
I mean they could swing #4 turret, but the casement for #3 is like a few feet from the launch rail...
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>>147801217
Perhaps it's only supposed to work off part of the rail on each side, doesn't look like a plane could fit through the middle but maybe there some nazi space magic there that means they can get enough speed up on like 2/3rds of the rail on each half of the ship.
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my video card came with a code for 15 days premium
does anyone want it
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>>147802580
no
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>>147802580
Yes
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>>147802609
ok sorry i'll go
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>>147802580

Sure. Mind giving it to me? I will div with you if you are on NA.
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>Every single fucking ranked game is their side +1 DD
Nice balanced MM you fucking piece of shit 0.5.8
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>>147803019
>He can't adjust his tactics to take advantage of slightly differently composed teams
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>>147803302
Implying tactics matter when MM decides you should go kill yourself. 2 rank 11 vs 3 as well as 2DD vs 3.
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>>147803380

Cap DDs at 1-2 per side.
CVs already get enforced MM. Let other classes feel the fucking squeeze for once.
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Does anyone have a paid gamesmodels 3D sub?
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>>147803380
>Implying rank correlates closely enough with skill to base MM decisions off of
>Implying it's impossible to use a cruiser advantage to overcome a DD advantage
git gud
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>8% fire chance
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>>147805245
Amagi?
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Best T8 premium to make money in?
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>>147805727
Atago.
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>german tier 10 is a WW1 ship

Ah yes, very impressive wargaming very impressive
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>>147806024
>being retarded
Ah yes, very impressive anon very impressive
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>>147806024
I don't remember reading about this >>147795502 in the High Seas Fleet.
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>>147806024
Are you brain dead?
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>>147806024
Why not? The American T9 is from the 1800s but it doesn't seem to have much trouble.
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>>147805561
Nope. Tirpitz. There must be something screwy in the fire calculations which favours large fire chances in single shells, because I'm a lot more successful setting fires with far fewer hits in the Pepsi.
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>>147806024
Well the IJN Tier 10 is a corvette and it's can pen everyone
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>>147806402
Man, Hotel ain't looking so impressive.
Maybe it's just the angle.
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>>147806024
I know, right. Sail physics for Warspite when?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_ship_Warspite_(1596)
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>>147806524
>tfw Black Flag has a great big naval setting, but the physics didn't change from the 'boat driving' of III
So disappointing
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>>147806024
How every impressive. Must be a complete pain to play a sail ironclad during the storm
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Make your prediction, what will be the low point of the tree?
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>>147796985
These stats are not reassuring.
I was under the impression that her belt armor and TDS should have been the best in her class.
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>>147807437
beginning to end
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>>147807437
Probably Bayern. The current T6s are quite good with their modernised hulls, but Bayern will be at WG's mercy in that respect.
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>>147807437
Bismarck and Gro(beta)er Kurfurst
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>server maintenance

time for breakfast I guess
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>buddygoy and mahan detonate
>fuck you 4v3 dd
>whole team chases 1 DD whole game
Eat shit ranked.
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>>147808239
Fair and balanse mechanics)))))))))))))))))
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>>147807649

She'll probably have the same trolly turtleback armor setup though so expect her to bounce shit all over.
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>>147807437
Tier X.
All signs point to it.
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Are RU cruisers OP? They appeared to be this case stat-wise.
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>>147807437
Honestly? Probably all of them. I don't see the kraut BBs being actually top of anythingexcept maaaaybe T9. They'll be average at best; T3 is all shit, T4's gonna be another slog with all the Arkansas, Wyomings and Nikolais, there's Texas and everyone has at least one Kongo in T5, Fuso, NM and Arizona in T6, both T7 BBs, buffed NC and a better Bismarck in T8, and Yamato and even Montana in TX.
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>>147808239
Stop, I don't want to see you in Rank 10-6 )))
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Considering tracking fires in a spreadsheet to see if the fire chance listed in port has any meaning at all. To help keep the data in context, I'm confining my analysis to the three targets which received most main battery HE. Any advice? Anything similar under way already?
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>>147809967
Stats are misleading abit. RU cruisers have great guns and good range + decent AA however they suffer from poor
detection ranges, terrible maneuverability and near Pepsicola fat citadels/paper armor.

If you hangback and don't derp in you can do great with them but they have issues.

Also only one of them has decent torps and thats the Dimky Donky at T9 the rest are nothing more than
a "OH SHIT" button if you get suprised next to an island.
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>>147809967
They're the best line with 0 bad ships. Excellent guns with excellent RoF and arcs and good range. Armor isn't that much of an issue to me since a BB will delete you regardless of line.
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From Chink forum

Tier III Nassau
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9557689

Tier IV Kaiser
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9557643

Tier V Konig
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9557658

Tier VI Bayern
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9557609

Tier VII Gneisenau
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9557629

Tier VIII Bismarck
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9557580

Tier IX Friedrich Der Große
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9557568

Tier X Große Kurfrst
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9556372
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>>147810485
Osoi
I'm already collating data in a nice format, don't post anything pls
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>>147810485
>84,300 HP at tier IX
>88,000 HP at tier X
What the fuck?
Did they write an 8 instead of a 9 or something?
H-41 weighs as much as a Yamato, as designed with 4x2 420mm.
Give it 4x3 420mm instead and suddenly she's a larger and heavier Yamato but she has a pathetic health pool along with being easier to hit and damage with shells and torpedoes and also gets spotted earlier than a Yamato.
What gives? I'm not seeing the survivability national peculiarity here.
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>guy is so bad at aiming he thinks I have speedhack
>after the game I notice I've been reported
>tfw not sure what to feel
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>>147810485
I don't understand. Why didn't they just shove in the H42 or H43 design and just rolled with that?
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>>147810918
I saw an Arizona get relentlessly accused of hacking today for being so accurate. Best part is that he was fighting a Schors that went broadside at 10km. Feel that people are fucking stupid and too insecure to accept that others are better than them or that they're just plain bad.
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>>147811042
>too insecure to accept that others are better than them
I feel that is the case almost every time somebody starts raging in the chat.
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>>147760937
What the fuck is a Fengxiang?
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>>147810485

Upgrading the Hulls of the t6 -> t9 increases fire resistance by 3.3% whatever that means.
The numbers for the shells and guns have already been posted on the chink forums if not here.
t. StayMad
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>>147811629
Do you know the secondary ranges?
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>>147811332
Hosho. A county in China happens to share the kanji of Hosho(鳳翔).

>>147760937
Did you use google translate or something?
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>>147811629
>scharnhorst has 3x3 guns
>Gneisenau has 3x2
>infact, the whole german line has 2 guns per turret
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>>147811629
I'm seriously beginning to doubt the accuracy of these stats, look at Gneisenau secondary battery, they are listing 128 mm guns which as far as i know are only present on H41.
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>>147811887
The Gneisenau top hull is based off the modification she never had, but was scheduled to receive late-war
Which would include the torpedoes and the ultra-super-mega good 128mm seconds which existed but were never shipmounted.
I will personally vouch for the legitimacy of these numbers though.
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>>147811973
Does it reduce her armament from 3x3 to 3x2?
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Everyone and their mother has a sims and it was 0.5km less detection than mahan !
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>>147812035
Unlike Scharnhorst, even Gneisenau's stock hull comes with 3x2 380mm, which I guess is WG's way of making it (or Scharn) speshul, so no, you will never get a 3x3 280mm bowforward meme in the tech-tree
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>>147812107
I wonder how it will look. I also wonder how well the scharn will perform compared to the gneis
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>>147811629
>Gneisenau
>3x2

How does this thing even compete in T7? Colorado and the rapist would both wreck the shit out of this thing.
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>>147812203
Actually Gneisenau theoretically puts out 13.8 shells per minute compared to Nagato's 14.5 and Colorado's 16.
We all know that WG is very big on the NUMBERS ARE BALANSE ))))) thing, so they might think it's perfectly acceptable
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>>147812395
13.8 11in shells = 16 16in shells

Yes comrade I see now thank you for showing me the light
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>>147812547
I'm not WG, I'm not trying to justify this ship.
Also *15in shells )))))))))))))))))))))
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>announced cyka botes, little hype
>turned out to be pretty much OP
>announced german BBs, much hype
>looks like they are going to be like turds
RIP Royal Navy, seems like your tech tree is going to be trash tier too ))))))))))))
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>Post a few weeks ago about undertier tactics in Ranked
>Suggest if you take an UT which is best in her tier, you may saddle the opponent with a shit UT
>Hurp MM doesn't work that way

>New MM logic
What say ye now?
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>>147812957
>RIP Royal Navy, seems like your tech tree is going to be trash tier too ))))))))))))
Probably. Most likely average as fuck. But I can assure you something: they won't be as bad as german ships.

Why? Because they're not the enemy of the great patriotic war ))))))))))))))))))).
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>>147813905
Nah m8. Was in a game with my team being all T7 while the other team has a Aoba. MM mechanics in Ranked may be different from Random.
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Good morning /wowsg/~

The weekend is almost here!
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>>147812107
What, are they really not giving her the 280 mm?
She should have them just because the ship was like that IRL, not to mention that it is her main attractiveness.
I thought the 380 mm were and option like the Mogami...
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>>147815409
>that left hand and head angle
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>>147816058
Report the Mod!
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>>147816475
Do it. Do it!
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>>147807437
Bayern, no way it can compete.
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>>147814045
>Because they're not the enemy of the great patriotic war
Only allies of USSR in Great Patriotic War and Japan can have good boats.USSR won war by itself, without any allies, comrade
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>tfw BB main
>tfw all these new BBs after months of the same shit
>tfw the glorious time of the Battleship has arrived
Bow down peasants before your heavily armed and armored overlords.
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>>147817818
>>tfw the glorious time of the Battleship has arrived
Laughing_Zaos.jpg
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>>147812203
Remember the Tiger I in the first two years of WoT, before it got buffed?

Will be of great balans, comrade))))))))))))))
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>>147817883
Bring it on little man
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>>147817883
>Zaos
>BBs
Laughing_Moskva.jpg
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>>147817818
I will sealclub them in my Kamikaze R with the force of a thousand 'torps are OP' whinethreads.
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>>147817902
Are you saying that after 2 years WG will finally gather enough statistic to buff complete shit?
Anyone knows when Pensa/New Orlean was introduced? I want to start crossing out days in calender.
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>>147818064
>tfw sealclubbing bad BB players in your glorious new BB tech tree and premium BB
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>>147818106
Pepsi is already good. She should be nerfed and shifted to T6.
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>>147818106
Well, no.

In the case of the tiger, everyone could see how shit they are becasue WG allowed modders access to their statistics API, and there were sites that simply dispalyed the performance data. (wvg WR, damage, etc.)

And about six months after WG allowed the community to actually look at the data, there was a multi-thousand post thread on the RU forums pointing out how it was utterly and completely retarded that the then-tier 6 KV-3 outperformed the t7 Tiger I.
And how the German medium tanks at t6 were the worst performers in the whole game, outside of some truly spectacular failtanks at t4 and below.
Of course, everyone witha slight understanding of WoT had known this since the beta. But this time around, they could not simply ignore it because it was in their own RU forums, and the data came from their own system.

Lo and behold, less than four months later they bufed the Tiger I and the German t6 meds.

And the addition of the 2nd Soviet heavy line moved the two worst offender (KV-3 and IS-4) up a tier, though it took them another 12 months to nerf the KV-1S.


It's not so much that WG can't balance things. It's that they don't give a fuck unless the RU forums are on fire and they can see the torches and pitchforks outside their HQ in Minsk.
>>
Anyone want to try this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/4rtv2n/takao_voiceovers_for_every_ship/
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>>147817705
Indeed. But that only means USA and Bongs get to have mediocre botes. Germany gets the full shat-on treatment.
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>>147818983
Sorry, but the superior nanomashipfu already commands all of my ships.
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>>147818983
>using any voice over other than the supremely smug Kongou
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Literally best.
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24 hr of prem. Do I kill myself with lexington?
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>>147817883
>Zaos
>post-radar update

Danking_memes.jpg
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>le 2x4 maymay faec
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>>147817883
>>147818020
>>147822247
shut your whore mouth
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>>147822495
Oh shit they're promoting it already? Could it be they're going to release her in time for Bastille day?
That literally came out of nowhere. And so did I
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>>147822495
>tier 6
disgonbegud
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>>147822495
Where'd you find this?
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>>147822818
what the fuck. we just fucking declared independence yet no line no fucking new prems what the shit. hms vanguard prem 8 when?
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>>147823116
In the most unlikely place.
The EU forums.

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/55950-german-bbs-tier-6-premium-french-bb-dunkerque-stats-in-059/
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>>147823707
>7km secondaries
I can't wait to see the meme secondary build's we will get with them. With the modules and the range buffs, how long ranged are those?
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>>147823610
Kill yourself britcuck.
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>>147824050
you first aspie
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>>147824021
Yamato's are 7 km base too. You're looking at over 10 km.
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>>147824289
Which ship has better secondaries then?
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>>147824341
Großer Kurfürst has
5x2 12,8 cm (5 sec reload, 5% fire cahnce)
2x2 15 cm (7.5 sec reload 8% fire chance)

Compare that to what hotel has, and you will know.

It is possible that the 15 cm guns shoot AP at enemy ships, which would make them useless.
They might citpen t8 cruisers, though.
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>>147824931
So what do you think we should build on them, skill wise? They don't really seem to stand out anywhere, and going down the ship survivability path doesn't seem that great.
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>>147824931
But secondaries only have one type of round. German 150mm guns fire HE (see Tirpitz and stats pages for Kurfurst).

Yamato's 155s fire AP instead of HE. Therefore it's actually highly possible that Kurfurst may actually have better secondaries.
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>>147824931
>>147825127
Tiers 7 and 8 get 7 km secondaries too, which is unique at those tiers.
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>double fire
>put it out
>first salvo gives me a fire
>next one gives a second
>have to sit there for over a minute and let these 2 fires burn me while im still under fire from that cruiser
>can't do anything about it
I fucking hate this shit. I can never set fires, but whenever i play a BB the moment the damage control finishes i immediately have another fire.
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>>147825918
>Putting out two fires when you're still taking hits
baka desu
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>>147825918
>Translation BAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

Cruisers focus fire lone BB. News at ten bong because im a brit.
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flyng dutchman
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>>147825918
Use basics of survivability dammit
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>>147826459
Holy shit that is actually spooky.
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>>147825918
>in balans ship of glorious russian navy
>set iowa on fire
>he goes behind an island and puts it out
>his damage control wears off just as he comes around the other side of the island
>next salvo sets him on fire in two different places
>salvo after that lights another one

>33k in fire damage

tovarisch kapitan i do not see what is of problem ))))))
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>>147826459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlmzRBvVtug
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>>147826918
Decked out kutu has about 13% fire chance per salvo. With 12 shells in the air on a broadside you can do the math.

Just tonight I set 14 fires with 97 hits.
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>>147825086
Given the first tentative reports:
t7 appears to be rather shit, 3x2 and eating deck pens from enemy 16" all day, but it seems to be rather hard to citpen closer in.

Bismarck works more or less like a Tirpitz with a bit more agility but no torps.

t9 and t10 get shitty guns and get shredded by normal AP pens, even from the front.
Just about the only upside is that you can risk using all 4 turrets, becasue you will not get citpenned at that angle.
And since you will get normal AP pens even if you bow-on. . .

The secondaries do have long range.
But the secondary meme is a meme afterall, and at 10 km or less 16" guns will start to citpen you.
On the upside, t7 - t10 are all rather fast with good rudder shift times, though large turn circles.
But if Tirpitz is an indicator they'll lose lots of speed when turning, which makes dodging torps relatively easy.

All in all, I'd got for a BFT + AFT setup, probably without a t5 skill.
CE will not really allow you to get in close because the things generally have pretty shit detectability, so you might as well go for more of the lower tier skills.

Wether you go for the full secondariy meme or not with all the modules. . .well, we'll see if that actually works out.
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>last 3 games
JUST
U
S
T
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>>147827991
Just abuse solo cap and tank your loss

>That captain
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>>147811629
>Gneisenau
>3x2 380mm
I wish they'd put the option for the 3x3 280mm guns as it is on Scharnhorst. It would be the new 155s vs 203s debate of yesteryear.

>32 knots
Gotta go fast.
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>dump 2 full salvos of torps into newmex in my sims
>8 floods which he reps instantly
>he still has 4k health
>try to gun him in desperation
>he 12 gun nukes me
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>>147828561
>I wish they'd put the option for the 3x3 280mm guns
Everyone was expecting this, but WG needed to make Scharnhorst unique enough, and apparently, torps were not enough.
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>>147828852
>Sims torp
>Killing anything
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>>147828526
It's okay, 2 of those losses were without any star losses.

Need to rush Rank 1 though.
>>
>>147828561
>>147828863
>3x3 280 on a T7 BB

I'm curious, can you actually kill anything with that?
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>>147828958
Play ranked with me :^)
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>>147829039
Rape cruisers and make Amagi's cry
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>>147829140
I'm done for the day m8
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>>147828958
How many days left on the season? I'm not sure you'll make it in time unless you start playing all-day long like a NEET.
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>>147829039
I sure hope so. I fully plan on playing my Scharnhorst like a fat and armored cruiser (alternatively, a Moskva with armor). So pretty much >>147829168.
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What's this feature they put in 0.5.8 called?
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>>147829454
>Season 4 Ends: 25/07/2016 @ 09:00 UTC+8
I'm taking days off from work just for this.

At best I can get Rank 1 in about 100 more battles, but I guess it should be ~150 more.
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Fucking up your cruisers since 1911
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Hotel: Literally, the QTest.
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>>147810848
>What gives?
balans))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>147828863
Well, since the 280 memeguns were my main reason to grind the line, it seems like i will not bother at all so that i can keep grinding my USN BB line, which at least has decent guns, at a reasonable pace.
>>
What are the most popular captain skill choices for different ship types?
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>>147833269
Situational Awareness is almost a staple for the majority of ship types.
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>>147833471
I never take it on battleships. I just always assume I'm spotted
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>>147810848
As of now, there really isn't a songle reason to start that line, which is ridicolous since WG hyped them so much.
I guess retarded wehraboos will grind them regardless and most of them will surely find ways to apologise their shitty performance to soothe their buyer remorse, instead of raising hell.

Top of the class HP and armor + decent TDS would have sufficed to make them stand out in some way, but balanss got in the way.
The problem is that the fucking Tomato has to be both the most armored and heavily armed of the three, otherwise it would have been possible to make them truly unique and different.

It's pretty depressing that they seem even more useless than KSM cruisers which at least have the high AP damage, somewhat long range, meme hydro, good AA and average anything else.
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JUST
>JUST
J U S T
U S
S U
T S U J
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>div of shitty redditors on the other team
>club the fuck out of them
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>UI disappears
>only occasional flickers of minimap in binoculars mode
>still manage to torp an AFK destroyer
Is no problem comrade, everything is working)))))
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>>147834209
>>div of shitty redditors on the other team
So a /wowsg/ div?
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>>147834209
fuck off weeb
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>>147834209
Your success and all the bullshit with NA special offers only really suggests that NA players are terrible. You might only be above average but because the skill level of your server is so depressed you shine like a diamond.
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>>147834425
Go cry to the mods Wave.
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>>147834209
>killing your own ancestors
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reminder that american ships have no right being to being good and that arizona deserves to be nerfed to 1.5 sigma
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>>147835031
>this mad that his shipfus got rekt
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>>147835270
wow #warcriminalprivlidge
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>>147835364
did somebody say nanking :^)
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>>147835364
What is Nagamon doing there.
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I want to smack nagato in the face.
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>>147834041
They could have just given the T10 the best HP in tier. Like 120k, I don't know. It would make the ship decent while distinctly different from Yamato.
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>>147836038
But why?
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>>147833658
An Iowa with Concealment Expert and the concealment upgrade+camo can get her detection down to around 12km. At that range, having SA is useful since you can know if there's a DD/cheeky IJN CA around spotting you, allowing you to take risky maneuvers like taking the shortest path (and forgoing standard pre-emptive maneuvers) and make a turn without the danger of getting citadel'd.
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>>147836479
Because she's a meme.
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>>147836580
Even if you're not doing the stealth BB meme it's useful for noticing cheeky DDs in the mid/late game.
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>>147836227
Bah, that would mean nothing if not coupled with godtier armor and reduced fire chance.
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>>147836691
iowa is a meme tbqh an ugly meme
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>>147836843
you take that back
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>>147836827
But it worked for Moskva.
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>>147836843
Rude. Iowa a QT.
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Explain to me how fighter combat resolution works.

I'm Hosho. He is Hosho. I'm upgraded. Have module and all but tier 4 skill.

His 4 fighters engage my 4 fighters, over my friendly battleship.

He wins without losing a single plane.

Explain this meme to me.
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>>147800602
>>147798637
>Not Richelieu
D R O P P ED
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>>147838715
RNG

Fighter combat is a diceroll to see who wins. Having better stats give you a better roll chance. Your best option is to try to avoid engaging him head-on, and trying to catch his planes in a bad position you can strafe.
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>>147838715
RNG.
Its how AA and fighter duels are resolved. Also, he could have strafed you, but i doubt that you didnt notice that since you said you have a 4 skill captain.
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>>147800602
>>147798637
>>147838840
>Not Pasta
D R O P P E D
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>>147839060
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so what will the pasta and french line's meme's be?
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>>147839967
The game would be dead by then.
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>>147840695
It already is dead.
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so whats the point of the giant green saucer on new york? it's been there for like a month now
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>>147838715
You need to rape her first.
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Fusou is T H I C C

But Dunkercock looks sexy af
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>unlock and buy range upgrade on the Iowa
>shells all over the place
>can't hit cruisers at <8km
Is it supposed to work like this?
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>>147839060
ROMA ESCILE!
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>>147841169
Dunkerques turrets were essentially two twin mounts combined into one barbette. Each side was separated by an armored bulkhead to keep the whole turret from being ko'd by one shell. WG might model that.
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>>147842776
Yamashiri > Fusou
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>>147843543
>WG might model that.
Dubious. Would be really could if they did, but I wouldn't count on it.
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>>147843252
What did you expect laser accuracy?
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>>147843521
>>147839812
>>147839060
>pastabotes
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>>147843962
Apparently the gun turrets have damn near half the normal hp of the other T6 BB's turrets so they may have done it.
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>>147844127
That would be kinda cool actually. But I have low faith in WG coding.
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>>147844291

They have 7500hp turrets while the Fuso and NM turrets have 16000hp. So i can see them being doubles otherwise it's gonna be
the Ognevoi all over again

Ofc then you have the Warspite with 20k turrets on top of that.
>>
T6 EU anyone?
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>>147843987
To hit once in a while. Like, sometimes, you know?
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>>147845020
Maybe you should install accuracy mod, instead of range one?
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>>147844916
Only tier IX man, sorry.

>>147845160
Not the mod. The upgrade. The one you unlock with exp.
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>>147845267
Oh, you mean your secondaries can't hit shit?
If you want to hit stuff with secondaries go full secondaries on superior IJN BB or don't bother at all.
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>>147845267
besides, I am fairly certain that range skill doesn't change your secondaries accuracy. It just makes them shoot further.
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Gay priest is saving the thread

Also, how does Baltimore compare with New Orleans?
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Tumblehome when?
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Just got the news that greg has succumb to his wounds from last night. rest in peace bud.
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show me your lewd webms
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>>147847435
Would that thing even count as a T1 BB?
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>>147844697
So basically we'll fire 4 double turrets?
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>>147848320
4x2

so its shit
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>>147848320
Looks like it. No other explaination for such low turret hp.

>>147848730
No 2x4 but as with the actual ship the turret is split between 2 compartments with 2 guns in each so if you get a turret wreaked
you don't lose 50% of your firepower.
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>>147848730
4x2 is the QTest layout, silly.
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>>147850561
3x3 is QTest layout, since it's layout of the QTest,
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>>147851093
only if it's all forward of the tower tbqh
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How come MY team has the impotent faggot CVs every time while the enemy CVs coordinate a 20 plane torpedo bomber strike on me every single time?
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>>147851231
But Nelson isn't the QTest it's the gayest and slowest reload Hotel is.
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>>147851231
>Shattered lamps
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>>147851231
DUDE
WINDOWS
LMAO
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>>147851231
>Broken windows
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ARP ships confirmed.
Will we finally get something other than a reskinned kongo or myoko?
I never watched ARP.
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Stupid Sexy Scharnhorst.
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>>147851231
>Bent frame
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>>147851606
>lamps
srry m8 we weren't poor fag murricucks we used lightbulbs
>>147851629
>>147851758
if you squint real hard you can see rodney in that pic has the metal ledges under her tower windows which fixed that problem
. by all means though keep memeing your autistic same fagging is mildly entertaining.
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>>147851973
>poorfag murricucks
>poorfag Royal Navy couldn't even afford to build their entire ship out of STS, had to use mild steel for structural elements
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>>147851231
>Damaged portholes
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>>147851861
>other than a reskinned kongo or myoko?
Well there is Takao, I don't believe that WG will give out free Atago, though and limiting it to only those who have Atago will create huuuge shitstorm.
Also there is Yamato, and Musashi,
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>>147851231
>Couldn't sail straight
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>>147852184
>colorado couldn't elevate beyond 30 degrees
>used oil lamps untill the late 20's
>45 seconds
>>147852224
never happened only square windows frames were prone to cracking as expected try reading your blogs before you make yourself look retarded
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>>147852351
Only T10's WG has ever given out were prizes for competitions.
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>>147852447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dC422Q0x7U
seems to be sailing fien tbqh. try not to desperately slander ships before you sort out your dyslexia ok my autistic friendo
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>>147851231
>55 seconds reloads per gun
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>>147852750
you said 50 yesterday. funny how the number just keeps going up and up as its shown american equivalents of the time were worse and your source fades from relevance huh? :^)
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>>147851231
>Part of Royal "Navy"
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>>147852968
never post in my fucking thread again unless you have something to contribute autispara
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>>147853062
>in my
in your thread? We privatize threads now?
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>>147852351
They said something about adding a regular Takao as a line ship first then giving out the ARP Takao.

No chance they're giving away Yamato or Musashi though. Handing out free versions of the best shekelbait in the game would be fucking stupid and even they can see that.
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>>147853062
>He couldn't handle the truth
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>>147852470
>flat, thin turret faces in 1900+27
>took them 5 years to make the guns not cause damage to the ship
>all or nothing armor scheme stolen from the Americans
>not even done properly, citadel area couldn't keep the ship afloat if the bow was flooded
>1 minute 50 seconds
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>>147853338
>>all or nothing armor scheme stolen from the Americans
It's not stolen if it's not patented :^)
>>
>After the recent protests in Louisiana an agent was found dead

RIP Greg
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>>147853620
>Abrach is ded
>Greg is ded
>Wave is still alive
There is no justice in this world.
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>>147853517
t. China
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>>147851231
1,05 rpm LMAO dudeboi
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>>147853971
>tfw
> 4. The supply rate of cordite to the turret also caused problems, as whilst the shells took 35-45 seconds to reach the guns, the cordite took 45-55 seconds to reach the same point. This was partly due to the greater distance the cordite had to travel, and partly due to the safety interlocks reducing any chance of speeding up the process.
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>>147853338
>all or nothing armor scheme stolen from the Americans
>first all or nothing battleship is the nevada
AHAHAHAHAHHHAHA oh boi.
>y-y-y-y-y-ou g-guys stole it from our wonderful sandbar ornament of a battleship
worked great for the rest of the class huh. murricucks can never do anything even half right can they. nelson had to come in and show you how it's really done so you could figure it out by the late 30's huh aHahahahaha
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>>147854363
This is genuinely one of the most autistic posts I have ever seen.

Neck yourself.
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>>147854363
PAKIKEK
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>>147854516
really hot opinion there friendo. might want to take it over to the sub where you belong tbqh.
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>>147853971
>colorado
>listed rate of fire 1.5rpm
:^)
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>>147853720

>abrach is ded

this better be a meme
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>>147855180
He died in a tragic boating accident.
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>>147855180
it isn't he died from obesity related health problems. his brother is playing his account now
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>>147854972
I listed four reputable sources yesterday that claimed a sustained rate of fire of two rounds per minute for the Colorados.

Just because you chose to ignore them does not invalidate them.
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>>147855506
Can you post those sources again? Different anon by the way, I want to read them.
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>>147854760
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>
>spooping chompchain right outta botes

spooped
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>>147855603
"This section is largely based on the reports from tests performed by Goodall in Washington to the DNC, now in the Public Record Office. They formed the basis for his lecture in Portsmouth, reproduced in Engineering, 17 March 1923. Also reports by E L Atwood quoted in N Friedman, US Battleships (Annapolis 1985)."

Also:

W H Garzke and R O Dulin, Marine Tecyhnology, Vol 30 No 4 (1993). See also discussion by D K Brown.

And:
J T Sumida, In Defence of Naval Supremacy (London 1989), J Brooks 'Fire Control and Capital Design', War Studies Journal, Vol 1 No 2 (1996)
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>>147855506
>I posted 4 reputable sources
none of them were reputable. they were blogs and geocity sites I'm going with navweaps real life source not your lap loading hypothetical ignoring gun elevation garbage, ok aspie :^)
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>France before RN

You can't make this shit up.
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>>147856029
RN is confirmed as the next actual national tech tree, but I'm glad we're getting some frogbotes before that even.
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>>147856024
see>>147855943

You blind autist.
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>>147856179
So since we're getting german BBs we can expect either British cruisers, destroyers or CVs
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>>147855943
Oh shit I remember that from yesterday. wasn't that from some guy doing a report on how nagato didn't actually outclass the colorado. He used those sources but I think I remember his logic to be pretty lacking.
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>>147856357
We already know it's going to be Cruisers.
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Is Jake going to see any other botes today?

Midway was a qt.
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>>147856024
>I'm going with navweaps
Weren't you shitting on navweaps as inaccurate "blogs" last week?
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>>147856336
You retard you didn't post those sources you posted some faggots geocity where he was autisming about how colorado reloadfed faster because it always would have shot at loading angle and other bullshit. He misused sources in order to support his retarded argument and you just went along with it because yet again autis para you think spammiong sources without reading them is not retarded. try again aspie.
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>>147856761
>He misused sources in order to support his retarded argument
What did the sources actually say?
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>>147856761
man this shit is comedy gold
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>>147857000
noone knows they're out of print autispara didn't even read them let alone the author of that blog. His arguments in and of themselves were so retarded and based on >commonsense, that noone could have taken them as real except for someone as desperate as autispara
>>147857074
>oh shit I'm getting called out better start memeing
wew
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Time to chime in here.

I listed those >>147855943
sources a long time ago when rate of fire arguments over Colorado's guns first came up back last summer. My complaints were answered when Wargaming buffed Colorados rate of fire to 2.0 rounds per minute back in January (although Nagato should be firing at 2.0 rounds per minute as well)

Some retard has lately been using them to argue that Colorado was better than Nagato when it was built (it wasn't, Japan had nearly 8,000 tons more ship to work with, and thus built a better ship). I rarely post here and just lurk most of the time, but fuck this guy is triggering me.

Nearly every single one of those sources is no longer available in any form, digital or printed. I got them from my (late) grandfathers private collection after he died in the early 2000's.

He's just taking those sources out of context and hoping nobody will notice or check them because you can't fucking get them anymore.

t. History Autist
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>>147857291
Have you asked Noone?
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>>147857348
They weren't arguing about Nagato Vs Colorado, autispara was claiming the Colorado did not have a 2 rpm rate of fire, but he's wrong and gay it goes without saying that a RN autist of such proportion couldn't possibly be straight
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>>147853235
Then what about those directories? People will go mad if we get a 5th and 6th kongo
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>>147857827
>gets btfo by history autist
>show to be autistic fraud who abuses his sources
>i-i-it was all nelsonposters fault
cry more faggit
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>>147857827
I'm also not incorrect colorado's mk1 turrets are listed as 1.5rpm by every source I have available to me.
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>>147857973
How is that functional illiteracy treating you, because;
first, i am not the one who spams sources, second, he confirmed the 2 rpm rhat you were claiming to be 1,5.

Lmao dudeboi, you really must love indian cock.
>>
>ally colorado comes around a rock broadside to a enmy arizona
>loses 47k HP

yes, this is what hell looks like
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>>147857291
>>147857348
>Nearly every single one of those sources is no longer available in any form, digital or printed.
>noone knows they're out of print autispara

>W H Garzke and R O Dulin, Marine Tecyhnology, Vol 30 No 4 (1993)
>http://www.sname.org/HigherLogic/System/DownloadDocumentFile.ashx?DocumentFileKey=ca770642-93de-43f9-b5b0-a604e6b91df8

His second source seems really garbled, I'm pretty sure it's two separate sources,

>J T Sumida, In Defence of Naval Supremacy (London 1989)
which is still in print at
>https://www.amazon.com/Defence-Naval-Supremacy-Technology-1889-1914/dp/1591148030

but isn't available on JSTOR, and

>British Capital Ship Design and Fire Control in the Dreadnought Era
by Sumida, at
>http://www.jstor.org.proxy.library.stonybrook.edu/stable/pdf/1879215.pdf?_=1468015307953

The J Brooks part refers to the book >Dreadnought Gunnery and the Battle of Jutland: The Question of Fire Control
which Sumida reviewed and J Brooks responded to.
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>>147858212
Nobody ever stated which turret, some autist was claiming that Colorado couldn't achieve a 2rpm rate of fire.
Which is plain wrong.
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>>147858306
>i have no reading comprehension.
>i'm still upset over my gayness for indian cock
nigger you do understand he's talking about the mk5 turrets after her modernization. try reading his post better next time autispara-kun.
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>>147858482
>I just decided to look for these sources proving that I never read them
jesus christ autispara we get it you got btfo and shamed for not reading your sources. no need to sperg.
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>>147857973
I mean, don't get me wrong. Colorado DID manage 2.0 rounds per minute in firing trials when she was built, but she lost a few seconds when the Navy adopted the 2,240 pound shell, mostly due to them not increasing the power of the shell hoists.

The main difference was that Nagato could manage 2.0 rounds per minute at a MULTITUDE of angles compared to Colorado (which had to return its guns to nearly zero degrees of elevation before loading). Contrary to dipshit anons rambling yesterday and the day before, Nagatos loading system DID work fine as the elevations listed by Navweaps. In a battle, Nagato would have had a higher effective rate of fire. But World of Warships is an arcade game that revolves around proper balance, so giving the Colorado a sustained rate of fire of 2.0 rounds per minute to make up for its lack of HP and speed is an acceptable compromise.

t. History Autist
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>>147855180
It is a meme.

t. Abrach
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>>147858721
>jesus christ autispara we get it you got btfo and shamed for not reading your sources
I'm not him, I'm just proving that you're talking out of your ass when you say that the sources are unavailable or at least not partially in print.
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>>147858823
so you went out of your way to try to find them but found that the majority aren't fully available. pretty autistic. whats your point?
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>>147858565
>being so autistic AND retarded

Man, seek help !
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>>147858964
(Yuu)
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>>147859007
>I'm so embarrassed but I can't stop posting
Don't worrry friendo the autism hotline is always open
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>>147858964
>so you went out of your way to try to find them
>pretty autistic.
I know this is very shocking to you, but a rational human being tries to understand the arguments the other side of an argument tries to make and the sources he bases his arguments on, instead of outright lying that the sources don't exist, nobody read them or that they are out of print.
>but found that the majority aren't fully available.
Sometimes that happens, but you wouldn't know whether they were unless you tried (you didn't).
>whats your point?
The point is that, rather trying to critically evaluate both points and their sources, you would rather just make up reasons to not do so than to actually look at the argument he makes objectively.
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>>147859441
fuck off autispara
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What the fuck are you people even talking about.
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>>147859519
autispara is trying to argue how the nelson has a lower reload rate than it's listed 1.5rpm and that colorado has better than its listed 1.5. historyautist shows up and embarrass258 autispara for not reading his sources. autispara gets petty ect.
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>>147858482
Also, while looking for the sources, I found this
>'The Best Laid Plans': The Development of British Battle-Fleet Tactics, 1919-1942
>http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/40107114.pdf
If anyone has a JSTOR subscription, it's an interesting read.

Basically, during the interwar years the Royal Navy and IJN converged upon similar ideas of how to conduct naval combat (squadron-based commands, the use of Destroyers against enemy capital ships, an emphasis on night battles) for different reasons: the Royal Navy because much of its battlefleet was outranged by both the IJN and USN (As well as a profound distrust of long-ranged firing instrumentation), and the IJN because it lacked the FCS equipment to challenge the USN and RN consistently at long range.
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>>147859228
Jesus you've been responding to banter, memes and proofs of your Nelson being shit for like 2 hours straight now, shitting up the thread in the process, yet you can't see that you're the only true embarassing autist who keeps pushing his pointless arguments.
And you accuse others of doing that, priceless.

Let me tell you something, no one here really gives a fuck about your Nelson, people here are just fucking with you.

if you're not ironic, seek help immediately.
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>>147859676
So many memes in one post
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>>147860050
>I took the time to write literal autistic paragraphs
>muh logic and superoir intellectual reason
>g-go away
better luck next time with your spergings :^)
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>>147859676
I'm sorry Nelsonfag, but Navweaps values contradict themselves. According to D. K. Brown (the foremost authority on British Naval development and technology in the first half of the 20th century), It takes 45-50 seconds for the cordite to reach the turret from the powder magazine, followed by 5 seconds to ram the shell and close the breach, plus however many seconds is needed to elevate the guns again and fire, further delayed somewhat by the necessity of adding delaying coils to correct the dispersion issues. Nelson might be one of the most aesthetic ships to have ever sailed the seven seas, but her turrets, magazines and flash protection systems were an absolute nightmare of a design

Its okay though, because she's still my favorite Royal Navy superdreadnought. Her butt is really cute

t. History Autist
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>>147859676
Is everyone who interacts with you an autist?
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>>147860553
>writes autistic pseudo-historic paragraph
>keeps saying the 55 seconds meme

Shooo :^)
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>>147860553
History Autist you are my favorite poster.
t. one of the guys who likes to post stuff from old technical reports from time to time
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>>147860830
the taste of nelsonposters penis in the mouth of autisparas will never fade as long as people pretend to be him
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>>147860928
I have a literal library of this stuff, I quit my job for a few years back when my grandfather died and lived off of savings just so I could properly store and appraise some of these books that are well over a hundred years old and starting to fall apart. Warships have been a passion of mine ever since I was a wee autist.
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>>147860985
pretending to be falseflagging me autispara thats cute :^)
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Since the shitposting is already going I guess I can ask now: Is the Warspite a good buy?
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>>147861892
Wait until they lower the waterline in 5.9
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>>147861996
It's gunna be hilarious when they do and it actually makes it worse because armor above the belt is modeled 1/3rd as strong as it should be
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>>147861892
It's okay, I enjoy mine for what it is.
It's the very epitome of BB gameplay though, because it's slow, and the turrets turn rate is horrifically shit, and it lights up like the decks are covered with gunpowder and petrol, but the guns are really damn good and will murder everything you shoot at because they're relatively accurate and have really good pen and damage for T6.
Pretty sure they're fixing one of it's model issues soon too.
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>>147860553
>Nelson might be one of the most aesthetic ships to have ever sailed the seven seas
Holy shit, unfuck yourself.
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>>147862550
>I can't handle objective truth
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>>147862550
>wah, wah, why don't you have the same opinion as me!
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>>147862103
>armor above the belt is modeled 1/3rd as strong as it should be
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>>147862729
meh I'm too tired to go pick through the forums. but a large parts of the upperhull is modeled as 30mm thick when it should be 100mm. explains why shots to her deck tend to reck her
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>>147862550
Hey, he said her stern was cute, and he wasn't wrong.

Also, I hope you all are ready for what Izumo could have been, but at tier 7 with more armor.
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>>147862550
>short straight femnine bow unlike dick prow of jew-killers ships
>proportionate castle like brigde

omfg neck yourself dudster
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To be honest, despite all the back and forth autism calling, I like this kind of thread. It's very fitting of a thread about a game about warships. I like this a lot more than the shitposting alternatives of the past few months.

I give this a comfy/10
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>>147863251
> so mad you're still pretending to be me

autispara-kun why are you so tsun tsun :^)
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>>147858782
Hotel glue when?
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>>147862650
Dude's been baiting /wowsg/ with the same statement for the past week and every time someone bites.
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>>147863763
So let me get this straight someone has gotten so mad that they are now impersonating nelsonposter? and from the posting style it looks like the guy he was arguing with last night.
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>>147785682
Its called a battleship and not a battlecruiser for a reason anon
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RNfags are a special type of cancer.
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Dispersion or secondaries for Nagato?
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>>147864381
you have the 2nd biggest main guns in the game and your secondaries inaccurately fire AP at the wrong part of the ship
you want accuracy
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>>147864127
Nelsonposter doesn't actually exists nor ever existed as an actual person, he's just a /wowsg/ character, a meme, a worthless waste of time, space and broadband.
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>>147862975
>metrosexual flat bow
>boilers behind engine
I mean, it's very progressive for its time and I guess it shows that the old stories about the 'brotherhood' in the Royal Navy are true.

But it's still gay as fuck, I now understand what the Village People meant when they sang 'In The Navy'.
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>>147864631
Like Anumati?
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EEEEEEE
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>>147862927
is of historical accuracy and balans)))))))))))))
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>>147864631
>>147864720

Shit!
My secret is revealed!
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>>147864771
>all guns foreward
>feminine bow
these french girls
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>>147865220
Do you like Nelsons French cousins Nelsonfag?
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>>147865220
>nelsonfag likes the French BBs
finally something we can agree on
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>>147864720
Anumati, or at least the player who goes under that name, most certainly exists in the real world.
I can't say the same for his /wowsg/ persona though.

I suspect Nelsonposter always has been a collective phenomenom, which started roughly 2 months ago.

At the first, these kind of posts happened rarely, whenever RN was mentioned, and went on for a short time.
Also, initially they happened in no specific time zone whereas lately, probably because of NAutists regular plagiarism, these posts seems to happen in NA timezone.

Nelsonposter doesn't exist in real world, he's a complete waste of time which has no meaningful impact on reality.
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>>147865597
fuck off autispara
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>>147865707
fuck off autispara
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>>147865729
fuck off autispara
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>>147865707
How does it feel?
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>>147847510
>face shot a cruiser with 12k health
Can you post something impressive?
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what the fuck is this team?
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>>147812203
Secondary memes
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>>147865808
Oil tanker :^)
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>>147866707
>moriartyisstillmad.jpg
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Fucking Nelsonfag shitting this thread beyond salvation, MCFUCKING KILL YOURSELF
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>>147867128
Hi Chain 8^)
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>>147865220
>feminine bow
Only DD can have those
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>>147828863
Gotta make goyims pay for 280mm guns))))))
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>>147867412
noones going to respond to this post cuck. go be a naziboo somewhere else
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>>147867686
but you did!
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>>147867412
>Z3
>Feminine
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>>147858740
>,240 pound shell
The superheavy 16in round is not modeled in game or used by any USN ships
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Fucking Nelsonfag britfag reveal yourself to the thread, i want to know whos been angering me for all that time.
IM FUCKING SERIOUS POST YOUR NICKNAME CUNT IM GONNA KICK UR ASS AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

t. dead Abrach ghost
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>>147868092
Why are they superheavy?
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>>147868312
Because they weight a lot.
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>>147868262
t. Snoozing_mako
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>>147868092
The 2,240 pound Mark 5 shell is not a superheavy shell.

And yes, all American battleships tier 8 and up currently use the 2,700 pound Mark 8 superheavy shell.
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>>147868312
Penetrator core are made from BigMac and deep fried butter
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>>147868262
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>>147868262
t. dead Greg ghost
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>>147868262
apparent
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>>147868092
The 2240lb shell isn't the superheavy though.

The superheavy is the 2700lb AP Mk8 shell used by North Carolina, Iowa and Montana in game.

The 2240lb shell is the AP Mk5 that the Colorado uses on its upgraded hulls in game, and the stock hull IIRC uses the 2110lb AP Mk3.

You can potentially make the argument that it's not modelled CORRECTLY in game since it's supposed to have similar penetration to Hotel's 18.1", but it's definitely modelled in game and certainly used by USN ships.
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>>147868890

t.Draak
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Guys, Jake's mum has called me and she said he died trying to insert his penis in Midway-Chan stern from the flight deck.

>tfw all my favourite /wowsg/ are dead
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>>147869469
Why is is that the good guys always die first?
;_;
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>>147869469
wows is dead
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>>147869469

>you never be a /wowsg/ favorite
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>>147869469
>trying to insert his penis in Midway-Chan stern from the flight deck

well at least he had good taste
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>>147869963
; _ ;
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>>147869469
>tfw all my favourite /wowsg/ are dead
dont worry anon, luis is alive again
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>>147870024

Worst winrate in the game.
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>>147870849
Looks have nothing to do with effectiveness, as HMS Nelson proved.
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>>147870987
Don't start that shit again
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>>147870849
Doesn't change the fact that she's an excellent looking design.
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>>147870987

Oh Im not denying his excellent taste. I'm just pointing out that people whined so hard that its now the worst performing ship in the game.

>>147871315
Of course.
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How was T10 game like when CV are still gud?
I bought Des Moines as my first T10 at the time when CV got nerfed
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>>147872660
Horribly unpleasant if you weren't playing a CV.
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>>147872090

Maybe if they whine hard enough the Hakuryu will join her in mediocrity :^)
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>>147873908
I agree cvcks should be removed from the game
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>>147873908

Well normally I would agree but
>Haku has been nerfed about 3 times directly if I recall
But
>IJN
>Ever getting nerfed into uselessness
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>>147874031
I propose that CVckships should be removed from the game and replaced by coastal artillery batteries commanded by players.
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>Play CVs all through ranked
>Win profusely but get shit teams
>Play DD
>Win 90 percent of of the time.
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>>147870730
who?
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>>147874031
I agree or atleast they need their mobility and concealment nerfed. I'm tired of these god damn CVcks running for 4 minutes at the end of games.
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>ctrl+f "mikasa"
>No new results

?????
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>>147875314
no one here is autistic and she's a bad ship tbqh
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La Fantasque when?

Muh 45+kn
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>>147875543
She's a big girl. She's only 9 meters shorter than Tenryuu. With 5 138mm guns, you'd basically be playing a mini Kuma at tier 10.
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>>147875230

As soon as all BBs are forced to use realistic aiming techniques.
:^)
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>>147874594

Just cripple IJN loadouts to the mediocrity of USN loadouts. You want to run strike, you don't get to deal with fighters. You want to run AS, you don't get to deal meaningful damage then. The fact that IJN CV's get to have it all and the USN CV has to fucking choose between bad and worse is a fucking joke.
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>>147875075
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>>147876040
Real life BBs had visual aim assist, though, whether it be the Type 92 Shagekiban or the Mark 8.
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>Reach rank 4
>Suddenly afraid to play due to rank 5 PTSD
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>>147877476
Cry Laga cry!
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ABPOPA
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Riddle me this, /wows/. How does a BB get to rank 5 and not know German cruisers have torpedoes?
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>>147878219
german cruisers are so shit he's never seen them
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>>147878219
Becasue ranks are in no way related to a player's skill or knowledge of the game.
They are simply an indicator of how many games a player has played in the ranked queue.
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>>147879360

But what if someone is rank 4 with a 71 percent winrate?
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>>147877917
I wish they gave aurora comedy gold baltic fleet traits
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There I go saving the thread again

Why do I even bother?
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>>147881180
>>147881260
lmao
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>>147881180
Would be cool if she took less damage from friendly fire
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>>147879893
If the highest WR NA Ranked player takes 138 battles to get Rank 1 with 69.57%, then you should get yours with slightly lesser than that. Good luck queuing CVs though :^)

http://shipcomrade.com/leaderboard.asp?Name=&A=1&B=5&G=2&S=4&R=118&C=0

You can get Rank 1 so long as you keep playing. Because there is a Rank 1 guy that played 600 Ranked battles with 49%+ WR
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>>147881289
At least I tried.
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>>147881353

I'm currently at 104 ranked battles and it would take me 18 wins in a row to get rank 1. I know thats not happening. But that would be funny if I end having the highest rank 1 winrate on NA.
I've stopped playing CVs as I grew tired of watching my planes wipe to solo BBs.
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so /wowsg/ hiw does alcohol make you play better or worse?
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>>147881969
Better for a little bit and then much much worse
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>>147881774
>18 stars
if you maintain 70% WR, you get 4 stars retained for every 10 battles (7 wins - 3 losses) minimum, so it's about 45 battles more at most.
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I decided to watch a bunch of wows videos instead of playing and one thing I've noticed: is ctrl-clicking nearby boats and planes without the manual skill not worth doing? I always click nearby things between salvos because I thought it gave a boost to damage but none of the videos I saw had that.
Also if USN CVs are so horrible why can't I stop wanting to love them?
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>>147882689
planes give a bonus. clicking ships does nothing really unless you have manual
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so I bought a gtx 950 and got something like 50 usd credit on world of warships.
Can I somehow sell this credit?
I think they give you a redeemable code, are there sites that buy such codes?
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>>147883632
whats a 950?
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>>147883632
it's a dead game you should just post it here
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>>147882987
happy 200 years of freedom Argentina!!!
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>>147883632
Nah, nobody really buys them

I'll take it for free though :^ )
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Yuubari giveway when
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>>147884115
when she's good
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>>147884115
If not tonight then tomorrow as it's the last real day Yubari's on sale.

NA is so based, with rich bros giving botes out.
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ded general
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>>147886072
ded botes
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>>147886351
Cue Nuclear by Mike Oldfield
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>>147856502
No, I was at the San Diego Zoo today. I won't blog more until I get to more botes, which probably won't be until the USS Hornet up in Alameda or wherever.
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>>147886351

Too busy enjoying Doom
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>>147864381
1) Upgrade secondaries
2) Get into a Ranked game
3) Farm CQE medals

>>147864604
Even your AP secondaries do a fair bit of damage, especially against enemy DDs and cruisers.
>enemy Pensacola comes around from a corner
>my guns are facing the wrong way
>he decides to stop broadside to my broadside within secondary range
"Ranked Battles is a game mode that encourages high-skill gameplay."
>>
finaly get to hotel. just wondering why does she have a literal sea port sitting on her ass? less aesthetic than I thought
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>>147887283
gotta launch planes and botes from somewhere
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>>147887332
yea but its like she was built to haul heavy cargo out of her as. literally why?
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>>147887526
T H I C C
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>>147887526
they needed to store everything below deck because otherwise the blast from the main guns would just destroy anything sitting in the open
so they have special hangars for the little botes and the seaplanes to protect them
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>>147884273
>only 7 more hours of Yubari being on sale
Oh snap.

Giving 3 out on NA, first come first serve. Post IGN.

>>147887526
Honestly, it looks better than having a bunch of seaplanes cluttering her fantail.
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>>147887893
LordMotochika
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>>147887893
Zipang01
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>>147887893
LuckyStarFan
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>>147887893
Phans
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>>147887893
raptorxf22
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>>147888019
>>147888103
>>147888203
Alright, gimme a few minutes.

>>147888358
You're always late, StinkyCheese. ;_;

>>147888381
pls
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>>147887893
AbrudolfLincler
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>>147888461
Its all StinkyCheese's fault ;_;
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>>147887893
Elysion
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>>147887893
apparent
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>>147888461
Thanks Jake.

Last ship I really wanted. Not gonna try for more to give the others a shot at them.

I say give Phans one anyway. Throw the guy a bote
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>>147888937
Thank you senpai ;_;
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>>147888937
Phans can git gud. Or at least get here earlier. I'm sure WG will release more low-tier shit botes soon.
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>>147888461
why did you lie jake
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>>147888461
Thanks Jake!
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>>147890365
>51k damage
>worthy of being blogged about
Just wait. She'll disappoint you soon.

>>147890448
You're welcome.
>>
[Citadel explosion noise]
>>
>Amagi goes broadside to my Iowa at 11km
>fire
>shells mostly hit around the waterline
>only get overpenetrations
>try again
>more overpenetrations

??????????????????????????????
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This boat is very bad.

Nice meme.
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>>147891472
tips nippon armour
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>>147891610

Melon-chan is a good girl! She tries her hardest.
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>>147891610
I'll get a above average game eventually.

She is mobile at least so avoiding shells is fun
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>angle slightly and push into 7 enemy ships
>devastating strike a Cleveland
>kill a Warspite in two salvos
>delete a Furutaka
>obliterate a New Mexico
>random Izyaslav appears and shotguns me the instant I delete him with a broadside

fun game overall
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Yeah this is much more fun than Tachibana.

I wonder what it was like before she got that unique mod.
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Lego Guy here. Have finished some standard types, plus the KM Bismarck
First up, the USS Nevada.
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USS Arizona. More or less same hull as the Nevada but a slightly different upper works and turrets.
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>>147893176
>2x3
>2x2
I love this meme
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I guess cyclones wear off after a while
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KM Bismarck
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IJN Kongo, w/ new superstructure.

>>147893392

Comon, the Nevada was the Hero of Pearl Harbor and probably had the most distinguished BB carrier in the USN.
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A Fletcher class. Im probably gona do a bunch of DD's next. Turns out that CA's are VERY difficult to do in this scale since space in the middle is at a premium.
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Essex Class Carrier, specifically done after the Intrepid (Essex's varied widely from one another). BTW all of these are on the Lego Digital Designer gallery if you want the .lxf file.
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I love this feel.
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>>147893943

Them CV hulls are great.
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The NC, my favorite ship of USN history.
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>>147894027

Ty, its mostly a modified Iowa class, shortened a little and thickened at the front. HMS Dreadnought. Also captcha pick the boats
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USS Missouri. Superstructure is Brickmania's design. Think Im gona redo it one day.
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Last but not least, HMS Warspite. Any suggestions, recommendations, or requests are welcomed.
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>>147894231

How long does it take you to make a CV or BB?
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>>147894703
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>>147894703

About a day. A little longer during week (I do this to relax after work). I have enough built up hull designs at this point where BB's mostly entail a modification to an existing hull (lengthening and/or widening) and CV's are very easy because the its usually a modified BB's hull (at whatever size is appropriate) with a big flat deck on top. If I were to build it, I'd need water transfer decal to make it interesting. 20mm oerlikon, also.
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>>147894551
Make a ship with 6 turrets each with septuple gun (6x7)
And put an american flag on it
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>supertesters
>in charge of knowing how to actually play the game
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>>147894797

More Hoshou?

>>147895057
Hmm, are you limited to size?
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>>147895329
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>>147895105

Except that sounds more like a french or IJN abomination. Also, full fleet picture. If you tried to build every ship here (and these are without the custom bases) it would take 4632 pieces.
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>>147895379
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>>147895479
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>>147895329

A little. Im keeping approxmatly to the 1:700 scale, although I trend more towards a width limit: 6 wide for battleships/CV's, 4 wide for CA's (although I havent been successful with a CA yet) and 2 for DD's. The main reason is I actually build these, and even going 2 wider on the battleship brings the price up from ~$50-55 per model to ~$150 per model. Current failure of a New Orleans
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>>147895604
>>147895604
>>147895604
NEW THREAD
>>147895604
>>147895604
>>147895604
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make a new thread I can't post my favorite chinese cartoon
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>>147895548

Digital models cost money?

Also its time for a new thread!
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