/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

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>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5*
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>>[V2] Liquor and Bureaucrats Mod 1.2*°
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ r1s3v3z0d17ctya/liquornbureaucrats.rar

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I will sperg out if you download this
° Alex da Silveira and his Grandi Youth will harass you if you download this

Reminder that unHPM is the arch-enemy of HPM.

>>147742223
based cobra

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WHITE JERUSALEM

Reminder that HPM hates the french.

>Hearts of Iron IV has still replaced Darkest Hour in the OP

Fix this.

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How do I fix this?
No mods, reinstalled, verified game cache, deleted every single CKII folder and still nothing.
I can't play like this, it's just too spooky.

>>147742223
t. cobra

>>147742308
>>>/pol/

There is literally nothing belgian about being Walloon.

>>147742468
>>>/l/eftypol

>>147742419
it's perfect

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>>147741626
When Queen Eglantine turns 14, she orders the invasion of the Emirate of Hijaz, across the narrow Red Sea, to secure it as a possession of the Egyptian crown. Although Jerusalem borders Hijaz and, if anything, should be the power to expand within Arabia, Aubry's alliance with his niece prevents him from refusing her call to arms; he will have to assist her in securing the Emirate, at the risk of his own power. The only consolation the King has is that the Muslim world will be left truly reeling if their dual holy cities can be captured.

There is other poor news surrounding Eglantine: she is betrothed to Philaretos Angelos, the brother of the current King of Italy, Pelagios Angelos. It appears as if the Egyptian throne will slip from the hands of the Aleramici dynasty after Eglantine's death, much to the displeasure of Baudouin; it will lose him his guaranteed ally to the southwest. At least that branch of the Angelos clan is properly Catholic, and diplomacy between Aegyptus and Jerusalem under their rule might not be impossible.

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>>147742471
There is literally nothing french about being Walloon.

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>>147742308
>>147742468
Are you guys literal retards? The levant(and northern africa) is sunny as fuck, there is no way people would remain white after centuries in the sun. There is a reason Italians are brown.

>>147742724
>a tan equals increases melanin amount in the skin

lol

But who was kings?

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r8 dem borders

>>147742697
man islam if fucked in this world

>>147742724
>he fell for the sun meme
How do you explain Boers in South Africa?

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>>147742697
Shortly after Aubry leaves his army camp at Monreal to join the fighting in Hijaz, Botokhui sends a letter to him informing him that their many dalliances while she was at camp with him have resulted in a child. An excited Aubry eagerly rushes into the Muslim hinterland to secure victory, so that he might be back in Jerusalem in time for the birth. The Mohammedan put up almost no fight, and Aubry manages to make it back in time for the birth of his second son.

Aubry wishes to name him Philippe, but his wife isn't having it. "You named our first son," she reminded him, looking menacing in spite of the babe cradled in her arms. "Am I your wife, or am I meant to be a slave? This is a second son, and I should name him." Aubry, the fool he was, believed she would choose a reasonable name if given the opportunity, and agreed to permit her to choose.

She chose Temujin, after her own father.

"Boto," he sighed, "you cannot name our son after a Mongol warlord, especially one who isn't Christian. Father or not."

"Look at him!" the girl shouted, holding her son up to his father. "He is my spitting image! He takes after my blood, not your own. And by your own laws he is not to be King, so what qualm might you have? That your subjects might look askance? Are you so cowardly?"

She was lying down with the child once again held to her breast, but her eyes flashed as if she were riding into battle. Aubry sighed. "We cannot name him Temujin because none of my people will be able to pronounce it properly. We must at least make an effort to name him something that we can speak." Botokhui disagreed, vehemently, and they continued to fight over the matter of a name for several days.

Until, that is, their little boy, who had been sickly since he was born, died a week later. The couple made up quickly after the loss of their son, and came to a compromise as their sorrowfully buried him: he would be known as Temoudjine, a French pronunciation of her father's name.

>>147744357
;_;

>>147744357
RIP


This AAR is just full of feels man

>>147744357
God requires the descendants of the King of Jerusalem to be white.

>>147744282
in 2100 they'll be black as coal
t. progressive humanist idealist

>form India after decades of strife and UK warscore bullshit
>Become a great power, limitless supply of soldiers and craftsmen
>With full military and mobilized, have acess to almost 10 million soldiers, ready to fight, and a war chest that can support any way no matter how costly for decades (35M)

>Infamy goes above 25 freeing Iraq and Syria, trying to pave my way to Africa
>Iraq, Syria, and Persia revoke military access and I lose 25% of my standing army because they're stuck in Palestine
>Wage a war with 5 other GPs, but they never come on mainland India and just fight where I can't possibly have troops
>Have access to Russia and though them Austria-Hungary and Germany and France, but I get 10 nations armies bottlenecking through Russia and so I can't push
>war exhaustion hits 100 because my colonies are captured, though none of my cores or non-colonials are, militancy skyrockets
>mass rebellions, first by commies then by Jacobins who close down my factories, causing unemployment, leading to a socialist revolution
>everything is in ruins
>quit in 1916
what a depressing way to end a playthrough

What are some restrictions I can put on myself to make ck2 fun again? It's way too easy of a game

>>147745517
Stop thinking "le blob" and start thinking "le incest"

There anyone with CK2 registered who would be a real nigga and download this for me?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/utility-portrait-builder-v2.941117/

TIA

>>147745241
Fuck, so that's what happened. Those aren't niggers, they are just tanned boers, right?

>>147745517
Create a goal as your starting nation that isnt too blobby, then when that goal is achieved play as someone else and rinse and repeat, craft your perfect europe.

>>147745517
Become absolute monarch of Sicily. Do not go beyond the shores. Give independence to everyone else, but do become powerful and influential to those around you.

>>147745390
>Iraq, Syria, and Persia revoke military access and I lose 25% of my standing army because they're stuck in Palestine
You know you could have just deleted them and rebuilt them? Assuming they are all from different provinces it takes 2-3 months if you have a stockpile

>war exhaustion hits 100 because my colonies are captured, though none of my cores or non-colonials are, militancy skyrockets
Colonies occupied don't increase WE. This is why its fucking painful to beat the UK out of india in the first place. You either let yourself be blockaded, suffered way too much attrition, or lost battles.

>>147745647
That's why SA is doing so well. Over time the white people just became black, their tans got darker every year until their very DNA changed and as their facial features started to change a new ruling class was born. 1994 was when the original settlers turned black, it takes 300 years you see and as most of the settlers arrived in 1694 that's why it happened.

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>>147744357
In the midst of the anarchy in Arabia following the fall of the holy city of Mecca, a Mongol adventurer, Oljaitu Ganzorig, invades the northern Arabian desert, seizing booty and forcing tribes under his vassalage along the way.

Although Oljaitu is not a serious threat to Aubry, he does represent something of a problem. The King, now in his middle years, had not before considered the possibility that Mongol adventurers might venture outside the Horde to establish their own realms; in spite of his non-aggression pact with Arkhai Khan, he may not be as completely safe as he once believed.

With that in mind, Aubry decides to complete the work his father began years earlier by capturing the desert outpost of al-Jawf, which will give the King of Jerusalem fully control of all passes from the south.

>>147745886
oh, blockades then. Battle score was +50, wish it wasn't fucking capped there. I was at +45% the entire war

But how am I supposed to fight the British, German, and French navies

There was no point in rebuilding them, I was already building 200+ brigades

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>>147745620

>being a paedophile

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=08382920623430620232

>>147745957
So you're saying that on 2088 random aussies will start turning into abos?

>>147746245
What country did you form India as?

>>147746245
A stupid quirk of the AI is that if you just want to white peace them, add any shitty wargoal (e.g. humiliate or dismantle forts) and then they'll be willing to white peace. You can basically always do this at +50 WS.

>>147746342
Some already did.

>>147746342
Yes precisely, where you live determines your genes regardless of lineage or being from somewhere else
Thus all Somalis in southern Sweden will be Geats in a few generations

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>>147746342
Yes. If you look at New Zealand the process has already begun. Pic related is the leader of their right wing party.

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reminder Alex is Italian

>>147746759

Avanti alexlia!

>>147746759
Top kek. This was breddy glever

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Well, gents. The Franco-Prussian war was a long fought war, lasting almost 3 years. However, the results were nothing but positive. As a result of the Prussian victory, France surrendered the provinces of Elsass, Lothringen, Metz, and Sundgau to the Prussian state.
Immediately upon the French surrender (nothing out of the ordinary here), Wilhelm I von Hohenzollern approved the formation of a German state, a homeland for all Germans.
tl;dr: I have successfully formed the nation of Germany, r8 my CULTURAL blob.

>>147746759
Link pls

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>>147746347
Hyderabad. I did cheat a little bit as in releasing all possible Indian nations from the UK, but the UK still had a shit ton of guys and territories around.

>>147746356
Welp, now I have to debate whether or not to load or start again from scratch

The funny part is I took over palestine to prevent israel from ever possible happening, and then when I was forced into a dismantle peace offer, Israel formed

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>>147746972
On top of successfully forming a nation for all Germans, the Hohenzollern family is renowned for being the leaders of multiple world powers.

>>147746972
kys

>>147746759
>>147746932
>>147746953
>>147747138
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/79747349/#79751554

>>147742223
Regards, cobra

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>>147747174
>a little bit

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>>147745997
By virtue of its position nigh to the coast and a constant military garrison which happily takes to slaughtering any natives who dare to resist the ruling order, Christian control in Mecca is maintained. Yet the situation in Medinah, far more inland, is a different story. Open riots against Christian rule have pushed out forces loyal to Queen Eglantine, forcing her to grant the territory to the current Hochmeister of the Teutonic Order, Rainers Challant, in the hopes that Teutonic forces can enter the city and pacify it.

The decision is a pleasant surprise for Aubry, who can now potentially look forward to the military support of the Teutonic Order's garrison in Medinah in any future wars against the Mohammedan.

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>>147746759
Oh shit, lads.

>>147747315
They were still UK satellites nigger, I just wanted to level the playing field a bit

>>147747359
Will you take Sicily and Cillicia? Your borders would be hella fucking epic then

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>>147747174
>cheating
>all that attrition
>not realizing it's nearly impossible to see Israel forming without player interference
>being dismantled

>>147746759
Wow steam group did something with their shitty raids for once, color me impressed.

>>147747438
Absolutely epic plausibility.

>>147747517
I started that thread
not steam group

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>>147747174
>cheating

>HPM says for a long ass time he lives in italy
>even posted a photo of it
>people act surprised when he, in fact, lives in Italy
lel

>>147747616
>>147747517
Not to mention it isn't something new
HPM already said he lives in Italy

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>>147747268
Ayyy, right back at you, bro.

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>people thought Grandi was a Brazilian last name

>>147747727
>he

>>147747174
>Jews don't deserve their own country but everyone else does LMAO xDD!!!

So fucking edgy, if all Jews had stayed in Europe you nazis would've complained about them just as much smfh

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>>147747808
>people still think a vague connection to an image that was also used by some shitter names Alex Grandi means that's who he is

>>147747808
>people
The steamgroup doesn't give a fuck about HPM nationality as long as they can pin him down as something /pol/ will hate

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>>147747770

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>>147747704
>>147747483
i'd like to see india formed in a vanilla game in which they don't abuse the UK AI to the point of cheating

>>147747359
>teutonic Medina
Holy fuck, I've never been so hard in my whole life

The only thing missing is Mecca

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>>147747941
I can't get that picture of fake Grandi out of my head

>>147747979
HPM could be a negro from the depths of the Congo and I would be fine with it due to his Aryan work ethic and history autism
t./pol/itician

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>>147747808
>there is no Italian diaspora in Brazil

>>147747478
Not revealing my border plans as yet. Everyone will see what I've got in store over time.

>>147748065
Well, Mecca is in the hands of the Catholic Queen of Aegyptus, so that's still pretty good.

>>147747808
>>147747941

>people thought that Grandi is HPM's real name

>It's another steamgroup derails the thread with their absolute devotion and love for HPM episode

Wait, I thought Grandi was the one who made the unfinished Commie Mod

>>147748196
t. falseflagging /r9k/ cuck

>>147748391
fuck off "everything is steamgrouppe"

>>147748502
It's the only fags who call him Alex Grandi lad
They love the fucker so fucking much they can't help but derail every thread in a discussion about HPM like he's some fucking e-celeb or something

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>>147748502
>he doesn't know steamgrüppe is just /gsg/ raiding itself

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>>147748695
>>147748673
>>147748391

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Reminder

>>147748934
lads does that look like Italy to you?

>>147748934
alex is based

>>147747723
>>147747727
>>147747808
>>147747941
>>147747979
>>147748196
>>147748391
>>147748673
>>147748695
>>147749017
>>147749021
That's all me folks!

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>>147747359
After his return from campaigning in al-Jawf, Botokhui and Aubry indulge in their usual greeting, and the result of the coupling is yet another pregnancy.

Nine months later, another sickly little girl is born. Although Botokhui and Aubry both fear that she will not survive just as Temoudjine did not, Aubry nevertheless gives her a name: Eirene, after the mother he never met. Although he never knew her and never truly loved her, his father's dedication to her throughout the course of his remaining days convinced Aubry that he owed her respect.

>>147749138
>Botokhui
What kind of name is that

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>tfw HPM said there'd be a new version of HPM today
>it's already 22:30 in Italy

>>147749289
He's busy adding hidden modifiers and events that crash the game if someone mods in a Wallonian decision.

>>147749289
Where did he say that?

>>147749289
It's only 17:30 in Brazil lad
Don't lose hope yet

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rate my europe

>>147749463
you saw the post

>>147749138
Take those fucking arab lands between you and the wasteland already.

>>147749194
The name of a princess of the Mongol Khanate.

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>>147749546
>Not knowing that HPM is the thread's biggest shitposter.

>>147749836
>that
>shitposting
wew lad

>>147749439
in the last thread

>>147749463
hes confirmed not brazilian tho

>>147749395
why does he hate france?

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>HPM still hasn't fucking fixed this

>>147750085
That shit is vanilla dog

>>147749556
You MUST kill Sweden, or at least drive them out of Russland. MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN!

>>147750187
I know, doesn't mean he can't fix it.

>>147750075
Shhh you are going to ruin this.
How the fuck is /pol/ going to help us kick HPM out of the thread if they think he's European?

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>>147749138
Aubry suffered his first military defeat at Balqa in his niece's continuation war against the Sultan of Dimashq, who controlled a portion of Hijaz Emirate she did not yet hold sway over. In spite of his personal slaying of the Muslim commander, Aubry's forces were slightly outnumbered and seriously trounced; the Muslim holy order the Sultan of Dimashq made use of granted him elite troops which Aubry's levied forces could not compare with. Depressed and awaiting the calling-up of further levies, Aubry does what many a man would do in such a time and finds comfort in his wife.

Predictably, shortly after setting out on campaign again, Aubry receives the news that Botokhui is pregnant. Nine months pass and the war with the Sultan does not end, preventing Aubry from returning to her for the birth, but Botokhui's pregnancies are, by this point, a rather routine thing. She gives birth to a healthy baby girl who, in her husband's absence, she names Eleonore, "for I have always liked the sound of it," she told the midwife.

In other news, a Crusade for the tribal lands in Livonia has been called by Pope Theodorus III. Most see the Crusade as a joke, perhaps even as an excuse for the church itself to acquire more land. What Christian lord would wish to expend his wealth fighting for Livonia, of all places?

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Post your favorite willies.

>>147750338
simple, italians aren't white

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Should I convert to Catholicism, or reform Romuva for maximum memes?

Also rate my blob

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>>147750209
alright, getting them trough russia then and aborts my plans for china

>>147749882
>H-HPM can't s-shitpost!

>>147750075
Because he doesn't want to add a decision to incorporate Wallonia but wastes time adding meme unions and lowering the price of liquor to "fix" the economy.

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>>147750434
>Incan east siberia

>>147750495
I didn't say that, I said that isn't shitposting

Replying to a post with a macro or reaction image isn't shitposting

>>147750495
>wastes time adding meme unions
What meme union he added?

>>147750432
>Saint-Empire Roman
If Catholicism's moral authority is above 60, convert. If not, reform.

>>147750778
>Arab Union
>Turkistan
>United Provences
the list goes on

>>147750778
Belgium

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>>147750765
>leaders don't look like this anymore
Why live, /gsg/?

>>147750863
He didn't add any of those.

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>>147750380

>>147750660
I've gotten reported and warned for criticizing HPM before, while he can freely post that shit with the consent of the R&I.

>>147750778
Look up the unions you can form in HPM, most of these are meme, implausible unions. But if someone suggests to add something sensible, and HPM does not agree with it, the shills come out in force to get you bogged down in byzantine debates.

>>147750432
>1000
>still tribal
>that fucking border gore

>>147750432
Always go memes boyo

>>147751019
tribal>feudal for expansion senpai. I will agree that the borders are fucking hideous though

>>147750989
>criticizing
Last time I saw anyone criticizing has been a long me.
Please do show your well thought critique that got you warned.

>>147751134
>mom!
>o
lad...

>>147750340
>preggers again
You got a good wife, m8

>>147751134
FOY

>>147751183
He was being criticized for some of his decisions in the last thread, and he decided to ignore half of it anyway.

>>147750989
>Look up the unions you can form in HPM
But which of those did he add?

> and HPM does not agree with it, the shills come out in force to get you
Literally never saw this, proofs?
Or you seriously think that people agreeing with HPM means they are shills?

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>>147750340
To refer to the appetite of Botokhui as "insatiable" would, perhaps, be the most greivous understatement that man could speak.

The moment that Aubry returned from the desert around Dimashq, tired from campaigning and filthy, Boto nevertheless practically dragged him to their chambers. Like clockwork, three months later she informed her husband that she was pregnant.

Calling Botokhui "fertile" would most likely be the second-most-grievous understatement man could speak.

"I doubt I shall ever have reason to question the faithfulness of Boto," a bemused Aubry wrote Yonefij, "for I can guess the birthdays of my children like clockwork: they're all nine months after I begin a campaign or nine months after I return from one!"

On the 23rd of December 1253, at just twenty-two years old, Botokhui gives birth to the couple's fifth child. For this son, the two decide to be novel and come to an agreement on the name. They decide upon Aubry, a name respected in Christendom and feared in the Horde, one representative of both parents.

>>147750989
>>147750863
>Doesn't know what NNM is
Fuck off newfag stop shitting up the thread with your gay anti-mod drama

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>this goddess
>married with this nut that i call my son

serioulsly considering cucking him so that the kids don't get shit stats desu

>>147751354
>criticized
People were trying to get him to add something that was discussed before, he asked them to read the archive so he doesn't repeat himself.

I didn't see anyone criticizing HPM and didn't see anyone get warned for any of that either.

>>147751430
>those traits
what went wrong lad

>>147751367
Take the Jerid, lad. Do it.

>>147750989
Just give up, they will defend him no matter what. Play a better mod and laugh at them for enjoying this railroaded bloated shit.

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>>147751367
>ywn marry and repeatedly impregnate a qt Mongol sister of a Khan whose respect you won through glorious victory on the battlefield, all while being a defender or Christendom in the Holy Land

Why fucking live

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can rebels be fixed

>>147751430
Do it

>>147751367
>both daughters are qt asians
>both surviving sons are white
>only asian son died in a matter of days
LOL

>>147751717
Rebels are a part of the game lad, nothing wrong with that
Without them the governments would be the same shit, always

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>>147751531
I don't know tbf
My character is an evil fucker, but even him isn't that bad

>>147751729
4u

>>147746903
And I'm pretty sure he was talking about a hypothetical scenario in history.

You know, alternate history.

>>147751897
mod name

>>147751356
>But which of those did he add?
Does that even matter? The fact that he kept them is enough to doubt the H of his HPM.

>Literally never saw this, proofs?
>Or you seriously think that people agreeing with HPM means they are shills?
There was a thread a couple of days ago when someone a brief post about his dislike of HPM and was hounded by three autists to elaborate further and try to get him caught in a lenghty debate. The lad wisely decided to break off the argument only three posts in and was immediately accused of being part of the steamgroup.

>>147751367
4chanx ate my trip again, this is obviously me.

>>147751549
I will eventually, anon. This mod has holy war cooldowns, and I'm trying to play as the characters themselves would. Aubry doesn't care so much about the weakened Muslim Kingdom right next to him as he does about shoring up his borders against the Mongols if they try to threaten Jerusalem again.

>>147751706
He's living the life, that's for sure.

>>147752030
looks like HIP with SWMH

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r8 me /gsg/.

Why was such an irrelevant country in Hungary so important in the last 200 years?

>>147752121
sick mustache, my man.

>>147752048
>Does that even matter
Yes, you complained that he wastes his time adding meme unions, so of course it matters.

>The fact that he kept them
So you are complaining he wasted his time not removing these unions?

>There was a thread a couple of days ago when someone a brief post about his dislike of HPM and was hounded by three autists to elaborate further and try to get him caught in a lenghty debate.
That isn't criticism. Saying you dislike something is expressing your opinion.

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>>147752030
just HIP

>>147751897
Sheeeeeit
Cucboi's mad

>>147752121
Why are you holding feathers to your groin?

So how's that mod going, anon?

>>147752048
>accused of being part of the steamgroup.
He was accused of being part of the steamgroup because when asked why he disliked something he chimped out and immediately called the person asking him "HPMIDF" without the person even saying something good about HPM

>>147751367
I'm loving this lad, its inspiring me to do my own thing like this. Probably won't post it though.

>>147752389
Those are gloves you moron

>>147752389
>feathers
Those are my gloves, and I think you know why ;)

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>>147752310
I'm starting to feel bad for him tbf

A friend of her's tipped him off

>>147752310
new plan:
impregnate your sons wife and hope she gets a boy
then change life focus to warrior or w/e its called and duel your son

>>147752601
It's for the good of the family

>>147752601
based

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>>147752397
Horrible.

>>147752441
If you're even somewhat interested in it, you should try it out. We could always use some more quality content.

Or even if it's not quality, the OC is worth it desu.

>>147752303
>Saying you dislike something is expressing your opinion.
And when I say I dislike the mod, I immediately get called a steamgroup faggot. Oh and I must explain why I dislike it in 500 words or local leader captain autismo gets triggered as fuck. And if I say I enjoy NNM or pre rob vickymod more then I also get called a shitposter/casual etc. Maybe you are the one who should accept that some people have different taste than you, and if you are allowed to say xy mod is shit and you don't like it, then I'm also allowed to say this about HPM.

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It's been a while since I played CK2

I forgot how fun it was

>>147752724
Maybe I will then.

I hope you like memes.

>>147752795
duel your son and kill him pls

>>147752881
I'm waitng for a male grandkid

>>147752794
>I immediately get called a steamgroup faggot.
No, you get called a steamgroup faggot when someone asks you why you dislike something and you immediately call them "HPMIDF"

No one said you needed to respond, but when you chimp out and call the person making you a simply question "HPMIDF" because you they are asking you something then they are going to call you for being part of the steamgroup

> And if I say I enjoy NNM or pre rob vickymod more then I also get called a shitposter/casual etc.
Literally never saw this

>roleplaying

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Can someone just give me the files from the Outremer mod so I don't have to search for the modified files in the complete HIP install the modder gave?

It's supremely annoying.

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>>147751367
The birth of a healthy second son causes Aubry to reconsider his prior decision to ignore the Crusade. Whilst a Crusade for Livonia cannot rightly be referred to as anything other than laughable, it would nevertheless be a way to gain both military experience and to acquire some real land for young Aubry, not merely as a vassal of his brother but as a King in his own right.

When Aubry discusses the situation with Botokhui, she urges him to go. "Experience will only make you greater, and place another of my sons on a throne," she nodded unashamedly. "You will be gone long, I know, and I will miss you. But there will be time to make up for that upon your return," she teased, with an absolutely predatory smile.

With his wife's approval--and the promise of a pleasant return--Aubry declares for the Crusade in March.

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Should I?
I still haven't had a decent son

>>147751494
>He ignored the evidence and pointed people to look up the time he sort-of won in the archive.

>>147751663
I know. I don't think I'll ever suggest something to him, specially since his shills made a safe space bubble where he can never be wrong.

>>147752303
>So you are complaining he wasted his time not removing these unions?
What I mean is that someone revived the Iberia debate a couple of days ago, he criticized that you could form the PLC but not Iberia, he got told to complain to HPM about the PLC.

Today, people criticized some of the unions you can form in the mod, amongst them the PLC, and HPM just flat out ignored them. So how can the thread regard him as unbiased when he showed today that he adds the bits he likes and discards the others.

>>147753220
DO IT

>Gran Colombia and United Provinces should stay, bolivarianism was pretty big for most if the timeframe, Argentina claimed Paraguay and Uruguay was an Argentinean province until the UK and Brazil started meddling with it, and Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela had literally no cultural differences with theirselves back in the 19th century. Arab Union would have been a real possibility if Egypt won the Oriental Crisis and sometimes the UK AI itself can't keep hold of India due to rebellions even without player interference, not to mention India being nearly entirely united under the Mughals within a century before the game started. Don't know much about Turkestan so I can't argue with that.
If you're going to complain this way, you might as well consider Austrian formed Germany to be a meme because it never happened and therefore shouldn't be in the Historical Project Mod. Same thing with the Confederates demanding the new parallel because they shouldn't even be able to beat the Union, or Quebec not deserving a tag because it never achieved independence.

>>147753341
The second paragraph was supposed to be in meme arrows too 3bh

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>>147753220
>>147753329

THE FUCKING RETARD WON'T GIVE UP

I'M HIS FATHER

I'LL FUCK HIS WIFE IF I WANT TO

>>147753341
>Quebec not deserving a tag because it never achieved independence
delet ça

>>147752794
>Literally ignoring the whole "HPM wasted his time adding meme unions" because he couldn't back that up and focusing in that one time people called you out for being a part of the steamgroup for using a word only the steamgroup uses.

Shameful.

>>147753231
>He ignored the evidence and pointed people to look up the time he sort-of won in the archive.
He literally said he would discuss it if people brought something new.

>he criticized that you could form the PLC but not Iberia,
That's not criticism, that's an opinion. You need some actual effort for something to be criticism. Just saying "the PLC is in so Iberia should be in too" isn't criticism.

None of this shit has anything to do with what you said at all. You said
>wastes time adding meme unions
that doesn't have an open meaning. You said he's wasting his time adding meme unions, which meme unions did he add?

>Today, people criticized some of the unions you can form in the mod, amongst them the PLC, and HPM just flat out ignored them.
>criticized
That wasn't criticism either and it was pretty obvious someone was baiting HPM using a slippery slope.
The argument was literally "if something didn't happen historically it shouldn't be in game".
That isn't criticism.

>>147753138
>she teased, with an absolutely predatory smile.
l-lewd

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>>147753525
WHAT THE FUCK

>>147753836
lel

>>147753836
ahahahaha

>>147753341
>>147753485
>>147753736
put your trip back on

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>>147753138
As should have been expected, Boto could not let her husband go without saying an extended farewell to him, even with the promise of a warm welcome upon his return. In the process she became pregnant yet again--and although Aubry for the first time became nervous about her faithfulness upon hearing the news (for, indeed, the timing of her pregnancy was at the extreme edge of possibility) during a brief stop in Crete en route to Livonia, he would be reassured by his wife's maids upon his return that the child was, indeed, most certainly his.

The baby girl was born while Aubry was still on Crusade, and was given the name Guillaumette by his wife. Aubry personally despised the name, but considering their last child was named after himself, he allows that Botokhui had the right to name her whatever she liked.

>>147753836
pathetic

>>147754196
>>147753906
>>147753665
>>147753558
This is an example of the usual """"""""""""""""criticism"""""""""""""""" people get warned or banned and then come here crying about.

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>>147750380

>>147754307
regards, talex

>>147754307
Based Alex

>>147754428
>>147754440
>>147754196
>>147753906
Memespouting shitposters whining about a mod
What a bunch of retards

>>147747884
This fellow gentile is right, you goyim are nothing but cattle.

>>147753341
>bolivarianism was pretty big for most if the timeframe
Nope

>Argentina claimed Paraguay and Uruguay was an Argentinean province until the UK and Brazil started meddling with it
The decision gives you cores all the way up to Bolivia. Also the population woudn't let themselves be ruled by Argentina. The same argument HPM used for Wallonia.

>Arab Union would have been a real possibility if Egypt won the Oriental Crisis
Yes, because tribal differences would have been easily set aside, suuure.

>UK AI itself can't keep hold of India due to rebellions even without player interference
The sepoys have never won in my saves. And a sepoy rebellion wouldn't have directly led to an united India.

>not to mention India being nearly entirely united under the Mughals within a century before the game started
Sounds like Rob's arguments for Spain's cores in the Two Sicilies.

>>147754537
You just described the steamgroup.
Well you I would phrase it "/pol/tard teenagers memespamming shitposts whining about a modder"

>>147754537
talex

>>147753102
When did I ever say that? Stop assuming I'm one of those fucking steamgroup shitposter.

>>147754608
Then get some sources to prove your point and bring it to HPM since you want him to remove these unions.

Actually put some effort into your post otherwise he will just think you are baiting.

Shit like

>Sounds like Rob's arguments for Spain's cores in the Two Sicilies.

is probably going to get you ignored.

Okay gsg, I just got a particularly big paycheck. I already own HOI3, EU4 and DH. What should I buy?

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>>147754608
>Nope
Stopped reading.

>>147754832
A new computer so you can properly play EU4 with MEIOU&Taxes.

"Poor people should fuck off." --gigau

>>147754832
A dragon dildo desu

>>147753231
>his shills made a safe space bubble where he can never be wrong
This. It's not even his fault, but these fucking autists are more annoying at this point than the steamgruppe memers

>>147754608
>Nope
Nice argument retard
>Yes, because tribal differences would have been easily set aside, suuure.
Again moron, no argument here. Ever hear of the UAR? Not implausible to have happened 50 years earlier, and Victoria 2 is an alt-hist game by nature.
>Sounds like Rob's arguments for Spain's cores in the Two Sicilies.
That was hundreds of years of prior, not less than a century.

You're a shitposting retard.

>>147754657
Yeah you too pal

>>147754947
That's actually something I'm gonna do soon. I've been saving bits of paychecks to save up for a $1000 laptop (I need a laptop, as I'm in college). I'm already on course for a good laptop. What new game should I buy?

>>147754867
The geography, the low population density and the caudillos would have made impossible to properly rule the extent of Gran Colombia, same with Peru-Bolivia and the United Provinces. That's why they collapsed and were never remade.

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who should i play

either in china or japan

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>>147754797
>>147754797

>And when I say I dislike the mod, I immediately get called a steamgroup faggot.

No, when you said you disliked the mod, people asked you why. You chimped out and called them HPMIDF. They called you on for shitposting.

Next time you try to play the victim card, don't act like a faggot first.

>>147754947
>"The Judeo-Masonic uprising was the greatest crime perpetrated against the civilized world." - gigau
Based

>>147754802
>>147754867
>>147755020
How the fuck am I supposed to give him criticism if you Grandi Youth autists spout memes and attack me for nothing other than not agreeing with how awful and unhistorical his mod is?

>>147755095
Don't buy a laptop, with that much money you could get a much better desktop.
Also don't buy any game from paradox, they don't deserve it desu.

>>147755282
>attack
No one is attacking you, they are attacking your opinions.

You can always stop arguing with them and bring it up to HPM without sounding like you are trying to bait him.

>>147755282
>Grandi Youth
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously

>>147755121

wot mod

>>147755282
>how awful and unhistorical his mod is
>mod has these unions I don't believe are viable
>how unhistorical
>wow this whole mod is awful because you can form a pan-arabic state like they wanted


kek

>>147755385
>bring it to HPM
>get ignored
epic

>>147755153
Autists like you made this thread shit.

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>>147754205
The Crusade for Livonia, although hardly an incredible success, was won in early June 1256. Although Aubry committed over 25,000 men to the fighting, sailed for six months to reach Livonia, personally captured the family of the old Livonian Chief and his holdings, and Jerusalemite forces alone defeated over 10,000 heathen soldiers--indeed, his entry into the conflict is considered by most of the Crusaders as the point where the Crusade turned from being a thorough trouncing of the Christians to a series of devastating defeats for the Livonian tribals--the Pontifex Maximus does not agree. He grants the title of King of Livonia to the King of Aragon who, in turn, grants it to a distant relative of his house. When King Aubry protests and requests that at least a fief be granted to one of his own men, both the Pope and the new King of Livonia Hug-Jofre flatly refuse him.

Embittered, Aubry curses both the Pontiff and the new King of Livonia before setting back out for the long journey to Jerusalem. He has earned valuable experience in the fighting, undoubtedly, and has made his name known throughout Europe, but the adventure was worth little more than that, and the money he gained from ransoming the families of his enemies.

>>147755153
What are you talking about? Why the fuck are you even accusing me with some random fucking post you found in the archive? Jesus christ, thats exactly what I'm talking about. You autistic piece of shit can't get over the fact that someone doesn't like the mod. Fucking kill yourself, this retarded bullshit you do all the time is exactly what fuels the shitposters.

>>147755389
This.

>literally uses steamgroup speak
>why are you accusing me of being a part of the steamgroup

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>>147755095
>a $1000 laptop (I need a laptop, as I'm in college)
yes goyim, you need that 1000$ facebook machine

>>147755529
>get ignored
Read the
> without sounding like you are trying to bait him
Saying shit like "Grand Youth" and "HPMIDF" will mean no one will take you seriously.
Obviously trying to bait people with shit like "If it isn't historical it shouldn't be in" will obviously get you ignored.

Stop acting like you are a retard.

>>147755529
Awww sorry for breaking your little victim story about how the big internet bullies attacked you after you chimped out.

Reminder Poland-Lithuania should not be a tag

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On the eve of September 6th in the Christian year of 1,000 anno domini, the hopelessly outnumbered defenders of Viazma finally surrendered to Kovas II Kovasitis, first Emperor of the Lithuanians. The temple of Formin, one of the most holy sites for followers of Dievs, finally found itself stripped of profane Slavic idols, righteous symbols of the Tree of Twilight hung in their stead.

The following morn, Emperor Kovas addressed those loyal chiefs who had followed him into battle, as well as the nearly twelve thousand warriors who had accompanied them in turn, declaring a new era for the Romuva faithful. A unified scripture was to be written, so that the ways of the true Gods could be equally understood by all, and more easily brought to heathens in other lands. Raucous cheers and applause were the majority response; Imram of Ledzianie, Przemyslaw of Mazowsze and Velnias of Zemgali, among others, had seen great difficulty in keeping Christian missionaries from converting their subjects. Notably, Daumantas of Samogita took his host and rode off in disgust, a staunch traditionalist to the last.

“There is no doubt he will be a threat, uncle.” The voice belongs to Vaiga, Kovas' neice. The young lass had proven herself as a wise councilor for much of the campaign.
“I would expect no less from that old dog,” Kovas replies, “but let’s not allow it to mar our victory. Fetch your horse, it is a long road to Vilnius.”

>>147755575
We are literally talking about this episode.

>>147752048
>There was a thread a couple of days ago when someone a brief post about his dislike of HPM and was hounded by three autists to elaborate further and try to get him caught in a lenghty debate. The lad wisely decided to break off the argument only three posts in and was immediately accused of being part of the steamgroup.

That's the post we are talking about.

The reply chain mentions this post here

>>147752794
>And when I say I dislike the mod, I immediately get called a steamgroup faggot. Oh and I must explain why I dislike it in 500 words

And coincidentally uses the same way of writing as the original one

>was immediately accused of being part of the steamgroup.
> I immediately get called a steamgroup faggot.
So you are obviously talking about the same post.
You know, the post where he got called for chimping out.

If that isn't your post, great. Post this post where you, the young innocent victim, said you didn't like HPM and were immediately called a steamgroup shitposter for it.

>>147755932
>example_of_CK2_roleplay.txt

dont mean to be mean but post when other AARanons are sleeping

>>147753138
This might just be too fucking lewd for a blue board, anon

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>>147756102
I'm not the same guy you retarded fuck.

>>147756323
Didn't say you where. You did get in a reply chain that was about that post and you didn't mention that wasn't your post.

Now I'm curious though, where's the post you got brutally attacked by the savage bullies.

Okay goys, I'm downloading Kaiserreich for DH, I have never really played DH. What should I expect?

>>147756510
He doesn't have it, because he is baiting you.

>>147755932
>>147756145
Nah, this is good. I have a trip and I'm playing in an entirely different part of the world, it'll be easy to tell our campaigns apart. And he's good at storytelling.

>>147756730
Play as Germany in the base game.

>>147756781
He could at least fake it or search the archive long enough, I'm sure someone already false flagged like that.

>>147756145
>>147756803
Thanks AARnon <3
I don't want to step on toes though guys, I can wait until later tonight.

>>147756510
>brutally attacked by the savage bullies
And again when did I say that? You are doing exactly what I said, get over the fact that someone doesnt like a fucking mod. Go waste your time looking through the archive for a post I made months ago if you are this fucking autistic about everything
>>147756781
Fuck off with this everything is a steamgroup bait bullshit.

>>147757094
>getting this hung over me making fun of you
So where's the post?

>a post I made months ago
Shit ad you are STILL butthurt about it?
In any case, I will never be able to find it. I have no fucking idea what your post had.
You obviously do though since that brutally bully attack still hangs over your heart, so you should be able to find it in minutes.

>>147757094
>Fuck off with this everything is a steamgroup bait bullshit.
He didn't say steamgroup though, he just said bait.

Was that what your bullies did? Did they call you a shitposter and you put the "steamgroup" part yourself?

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>>147755562
The time has come to begin to search for a bride for Aubry's eldest son Baudouin, who has grown into a capable, polite young man, worthy of the name of his grandfather.

Aubry does not need to look for long: after only a few days he settles upon Keiser Albrecht the Black's youngest daughter, Gudrun. Gudrun is rumored to not only be an extremely pretty girl, but also to be intelligent beyond her years. Moreover, Keiser Heinrich made the odd choice (considering she is the youngest of all his children, and a woman besides) of grooming her for rule, which, despite its strangeness, will serve as a great boon for Baudouin, who himself is destined to rule.

Shortly thereafter Aubry agrees to a further betrothal when he matches his eldest daughter Eirene with the King of France, Robert de Dreux. Ever since the House de Dreux took refuge within Jerusalem prior to their ascension to the French crown there has been a particular unity between House Aleramici and the House de Dreux, and Aubry hopes to formalize this friendship via the marriage.

>>147757094
See >>147752794

Never forget lads that Germany dindu nuffin ever.

>>147757267
You are the butthurt when someone says a bad thing about HPM, all I gave was a fucking example. I hope one day you realize that you are the only reason the shitposters are trying to kick him out.

>>147757608
I do

>>147757779
I'm not, I'm saying that the example we were discussing didn't happen like the victimized story. I proved it didn't but when you did you came up saying you were in the conversation all along and you weren't the guy. You got butthurt and said that happened to you, I asked you to post it and I'm still waiting for it.

wow this general is awful

>>147757505
How has Jerusalem's laws changed?

>>147757608
>epic meme of a child blobbing his germaniums
Watch any World War 2 documentary.

>>147757505
>spreading Asian genes across the European nobility

Hapa Kings of France

why is the steam group private?

Vicky 3 when?

>>147758309
only dank shitposters allowed

>>147758017
Not all that much. Succession is still Agnatic-Cognatic Gavelkind, Crown Authority is Medium and Centralization is Low, there are no obligations except for minimal feudal, obligations for bishops and burghers are full monetary instead of balanced.

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>>147757505
Baudouin's long return home, and his stress at the Pope's obstinance when he returned, delayed the inevitable pregnancy of Boto, but it came surely enough. Aubry was at first concerned that he might have been out of the palace the week around when Boto became pregnant, but soon dismisses it as mere paranoia.

In late April 1259 Botokhui gives birth to their seventh child and third surviving son, whom Aurby names Philippe, the name he had originally wished to give their second son who did not survive, Temoudjine.

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Does warscore go above 100? I can't seem to acquire two provinces.

>>147758858
lad, don't tell me boto has a lover

>>147759046
She doesn't, I'm just paranoid so I get that "doubt besets me" thing every time she gets pregnant.

Which is all the fucking time.

>>147759000
101

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>>147759000
Here's a visual aid.

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Insh'Allah

>>147759401
No, it doesn't go above 100

>>147759520
Well that's fucking retarded. Thanks.

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>>147744357
The hurt never ends, does it

>>147749138
>Botokhui and Aubry indulge in their usual greeting, and the result of the coupling is yet another pregnancy.

I love it! Good on them to try again. It's good to see love.

>Nine months later, another sickly little girl is born. Although Botokhui and Aubry both fear that she will not survive just as Temoudjine did not, Aubry nevertheless gives her a name

Let us not repeat the mistakes of the past.

>Eirene, after the mother he never met. Although he never knew her and never truly loved her, his father's dedication to her throughout the course of his remaining days convinced Aubry that he owed her respect.

Oh Aubry...you have no idea.

No fucking idea...

;________;

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Well, I've run out of manpower, but can't get anymore because my troops outnumber theirs.

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>>147758858
In early Fall Aubry is caught completely off-guard by a declaration of war from the Byzantine Basileius, claiming sovereignty over the territory of Crete which Aubry currently occupies.

Although Aubry has an alliance with his niece and can rely upon her for support, he is nevertheless still significantly weaker than the Basileius, whom Aubry's spymaster Duc Guy of Al-Jawf estimates might be able to raise as many as 40,000 troops with the support of the Varangian Guard. Aubry, with mercenary support, can hope for no more than 30,000, plus whatever reinforcements arrive from Egypt.

Still, he has faced down worse odds before. He kisses his wife, hugs his children, and rides hard from the gates of Jerusalem.

Calling up Volodar the White of the Rus Company and his 5,200-man mixed force of heavy cavalry and horse archers on the way, Aubry rallies his vassals and rushes off to defend his lands.

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I realize that this doesn't belong here, but I feel like you guys would have definitely played it.
Does anyone else remember Return to Castle Wolfenstein?

>>147759958
show casualties

>>147760183
>>>/vr/

>>147760183
No but it looks neat.

>>147760179
Nice CoA.

>>147760179
Good luck Aubry, teach those filthy Greeks not to fuck with you

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>>147760183
>playing jewish propaganda
where do you think we are

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>>147760445
t.

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>>147750340
>>147751367
I got a pregnancy and lactation fetish lad, you're doing God's work.

That tough loli body is built to take it.

>>147751334
That's actually sorta fucking adorable.

;_;

>>147751367
>insatiable
Aw yiss. I'm the guy who originally suggested trying to marry into the Mongols. This is working out better than even I thought.

>tired from campaigning and filthy, Boto nevertheless practically dragged him to their chambers

Would she frequent /d/?

>>147760179
show religious map of middle east. how much authority have the muslims?

>>147760317
It's a really fun game. The main character doesn't speak, so you don't have to hear him spew shit from a jewish written script.

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How can rob possibly recover from this?

>>147760749
I can never tell if there are a bunch of Muv Luv posters or if its just you and I

Lad's I just won $15,000 on a game show because of my knowledge from /gsg/ and shitposting on /pol/

>>147760941
>being a slave of slaves
wewlad

>>147761124
Proof

>>147753138
Has there seriously ever been a better set of wives in an AAR?

Cheeky waifu who is lewd as fuck.

>>147761124
what was the question?

>>147761223
>rob has slaves
LMAO

>>147753836
He had tard strength.

You should have known this.

>>147754205
LEWD

Also, why isn't she doing any Mongol names? Or at least Frankicized Mongol names? She's earned that right many times over by now.

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>>147760748
Give me your reddit username so I may gift such a fantabulous persyn as yourself with Reddit Gold™

>>147760371
Theirs is pretty good, yes. Better than mine, honestly. I wonder if flagdaddy can make a custom CoA?

>>147760749
>Would she frequent /d/?
Ain't like that, anon. Remember, princess or not, she's a Mongol girl who's been trained in combat and horse-riding. She's used to seeing (and smelling) men on the campaign trail.

>>147760804
Try reminding me at the end of my posts today, I can't post it now because I played ahead very slightly and it would spoil.

>>147761260
Honestly I'm just astounded at her determination. She's not even 30 and she's got 8 children, and the ambition to have 10.

>>147761483
>Also, why isn't she doing any Mongol names? Or at least Frankicized Mongol names?
Mostly because I haven't really had the forethought to ask for another Francophone spelling of a Mongol name. I guess I can for our next kid, though.

We're fucking bound to have one.

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>reading about trench warfare
>sharpening shovels against bayonets
>boot knives
>clubs
>flails
Glorious,truly glorious. Shouldnt ex-uncivs in Vicky 2 get some special tech bonus once trench warfare starts since they probably never stopped using melee weapons in the first place?

is Ultimate generals Gettysburg good? Sorry that it isnt exactly grand strategy

>playing as Douchemany with historical focus on
>Czechs decline Munich conference weirdly
>Spanish Civil War begins in March of '39
>Declare on Poland a few months early
>Allies don't join despite guaranteeing Poland
>Finish off Poland and declare on France
>Start to go through Benelux
>Troops hit a brick fucking wall of a whole 15 division in Amsterdam
>Offensive has now stalled for 6 months
What the fuck is going on? My divisions are 22 width, have excellent soft attack and breakthrough, max planning, air superiority, air support, encirclement, and multi attack bonus and they still can't fucking breakthrough. Am I just bugged or what?

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>>147760179
Aubry's initial strategy is to attempt a repeat of the battle of Kaisun, by forcing Byzantine forces into the narrow mountain passes of Cilicia and forcing them to engage one of his two armies in order to pass into Jerusalem proper. He gambles that the Basileius will not attempt a landing on the isle of Chypre, for the heartland of Jerusalem is a much more tempting prize.

In spite of the high cost of maintaining his own levies whilst simultaneously paying the Rus Company to effectively sit and do nothing, Aubry orders his forces to dig in and begin investing the Byzantine fortresses of Alexandrou and Kapan. He has little to do until the forces of Basileius Maximos reveal themselves.

>>147761779
No, because trench warfare was a Western Front phenomenon brought on by Verdun. Everywhere else fought as normal.

>>147761838
yes but Scourge of War Gettysburg is better

>>147761779
>boost countries that manage to civilize by the time trench warfare starts
>Italy never manages to beat Ethiopia
someone make this happen, it will be true pottery

>>147761779
>Hey guys I know nothing about trench warfare

No they should not. You would only reach the opponent's trench if you had enough covering fire and artillery to prevent the enemy from picking off your men as you crossed no man's land

Any other good alt history mods like Divergences of Darkness?

>>147762320
>DoD
>Good
I'd say Napoopand and Liangmod are better than DoD

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>>147758858
...is this the beginning of what will be the Protestant Reformation come EU?

>>147760179
FACE DOWN THE VILE OPPORTUNISTS. You broke the back of the Horde! This you can also do.

>>147760973
Might be more than just you and I, but then again, Muv Luv threads (and a lot of threads across 4chan in general) have Kaiserreich and other gsg posts.

>>147761869
you forgot to assign your units to the battleplan or did it wrong, remake it and start it again and it should be fine

>>147761730
>Ain't like that, anon.
Heh, so you say. But you already gave the game away,

>She's used to seeing (and smelling) men on the campaign trail.
What do you think will bring her to /d/? People don't first end up on /d/ because it's to discover new fetishes they never knew they wanted. It's because they have a dark secret only those who share the affliction, the desire, for a fetish can help each other mutually.

>>147762701
If that were the case, they never would have made it to Amsterdam.

>>147760941
So nobody knows why Polish call a slave niewolnik? That's an equivalent of serf in other slavic languages.

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>Bonapartiste China will never be a thing

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>>147762949
>no Empire Français d'Eurasie

>>147762909
Because serfs are slaves?

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>>147762949
>>147763101
>Bonapartiste France will never be a thing
>Napoleon IV died in one of Perfidious Albion's pointless African wars
it hurts...

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>>147761985
Undoubtedly predicting the most likely strategy Aubry would take, Maximos does, indeed, order an invasion of the isle of Chypre, once again catching the King of Jerusalem off-guard. Aubry does not have a naval transport force prepared, nor would he even have enough vessels to transport the entirety of his forces if he requisitioned all of the available vessels in all of Jerusalem's ports (which he is rapidly forced to do). Baudouin makes a tactical decision to sail to Chypre first, ahead of his mercenary allies and remaining levies, in an attempt to delay the sieges the Basileius's forces are attempting to conduct long enough for Volodar to make a supporting landing.

Aubry makes a landing in Nicosie, nearby to the Byzantine forces in Limassol. The Byzantine commander is skilled, however, and he decides to gamble everything to keep Aubry on the back foot: he charges directly at the King's lines.

Were Aubry not a furious taskmaster, he would not have been able to retreat to Famagouste in time to evade the Byzantine forces, but he succeeded. Byzantine forces pursued him regardless and engaged his demoralized and trapped troops, but shortly thereafter Volodar makes his landing and, together, the two Jerusalemite armies make fast work of the Byzantine forces. The first--and most important--battle of the war is over.

>>147763145
Niggers weren't serfs, anon. There's a difference.

>>147762909
Because they never got proper slaves, only serfs

>>147763286
>what is sharecropping
Niggers were de facto serfs after slavery ended, you uneducated fuccboi.

>>147761730
>I wonder if flagdaddy can make a custom CoA?
Sure, tell me what you want and I'll probably have it done for tomorrow, I'm off to dinner soon and by the time I come back you'll probably be gone.

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>>147762949
>no Bonapartiste anything

This is the worst timeline

>>147763372
Where they tied to a land or a manor and couldn't move out?

>>147763372
Is that so? Our history classes don't delve into it much after you finally abolished slavery.

>>147763223
>Baudouin makes a tactical decision
I miss him too anon but Baudouin is dead
:^)