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No one cared anyway edition

>Patch notes
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_1

>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed)

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation

forbidden >>147612408
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>147712831
Rollan!
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Every thread
Every day.
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>>147712831
Undead shits can't compete with High Elf and Empire superiority!
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>>147712927
FAT VAMP TATS
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>>147712782
>I prefer Rats

Kill yourself, you are literally the cancer of this franchise
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>>147712986
>inb4 le bacterian joice XD
No, it's just that no one cares about boring factions
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>>147712986
Why are wood elves so low in popularity? I havent played the tabletop personally but from what I've seen they seem neat. Although that might be because I always liked "ranged" gameplays
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AMD KEKS BTFO!

We did it bros!!!
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I don't get it, they're both the same?
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>>147713110
yes
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>Tomb Kings won't be in the game for ages yet
>Already a frequent topic of discussion in /twg/
Truly the most anticipated of factions!
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>>147712950
Your words mean nothing without proof. You can say this game based on 8th Edition, because of the fact that there Bretonia and no Sigmarines, but we don't know if this true or they just wanted to implement Bretonia. So until there proof that this is indeed 8th Edition and not they custome edition with part of 8th - we can't assume that this is 100% 8th.


>>147712898
>Getting this mad because he doesn't want a faction to be in the game
I honestly don't give a fuck about them, but if i should choose between them and something else i prefer to choose something else.
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Re-posting my word-cloud from yesterday in case anyone is interested.
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>>147713078
>>147712986

You mean children don't want to play with under-powered factions require skill and handwork to win with?
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>>147713148
Its just a meme, nobody actually want to play that. as long as there are more awesome factions still missing (like dark elfes and ogre kingdoms)
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>>147713148
I think Beastmen are the most anticipated atm
>poo
>pee
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>>147713259
>Its just a meme

Vamp-fags are this delusional
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>>147713006
Only after you my Egyptian friend.

I can play without stormvermins, clan rats, slaves spam shit, but who the fuck cares about different tactics, when you simply can say that after this kiddo, whom beat the shit out of my useless army, every other players who use this faction are cancer players and noobs.

Go sleep into your fucking Tomb and close this massive stone slab that you call door.
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>>147713110
The Dawi way
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>>147713173
>I honestly don't give a fuck about them
You seem to be writing an awful lot about them though.
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>>147713294
>goat people

Yeah, no. I'd rather get Bretonnia, elves or even the Skavens, beastmen are fucking boring.
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>chaos corruption and chaos agents everywhere
CHAOS SHITS GET OUT FROM MY LANDS
GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>147713464
Well that's just, like, your opinion man.
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>>147713415
I only wrote that there no more TK in AoS, so the chance for them to appear in TWW kinda low, because GW always use games to promote fucking miniatures, and then all the TK fags started shitstorm on me with their assumes about me being Vamp fag.

TK is one of the most boring factions in FB.
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>>147713189
>GREEN AND MEAN
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I kind of hope they give Beastmen something like the Orc poo pillars.
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>>147713464
Skaven are the strongest, most interesting faction in the warhammer universe.
How can the others even compete?
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>>147713557
CA said they want all 16 factions in the game. Tomb Kings already have an army book so are pretty much guaranteed, nobody cares about AoS because the game doesn't take place in AoS.
And
>Stop liking what I don't like
Is not an argument.
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>>147713082

They're popular, the list is for who people think is best mechanically.
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>>147713674
T.Skaven
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>>147713518
Nah it's more like a fact. Beastmen are a shitty version of the chaos army with less variety.
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>>147713674
Skavens are fucking pathetic but at least they get much more variety than the beastmen. Which is probably why we'll only get skaven much later. If they go for beastmen they'll be able to recycle half the roster of the warriors of chaos.
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>>147713806
That's still just your opinion
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SKAVEN ARE THE MOST POWERFUL FACTION

THEY HAVE THE BEST TECHNOLOGY AND CULTURE AND DESERVE TO RULE ABOVE GROUND AND THE UNDERGROUND

EMPIRE AND DWARFS ARE JUST CHILDREN PLAYING WITH TOYS COMPARED TO SKAVEN TECHNOLOGY AND EACH GREY SEER HAS MORE MAGICAL POTENTIAL IN HIS CUTE PINK NOSE THAN EVERY HIGH ELF ARCHMAGE PUT TOGETHER

SKAVEN ARE NUMBER ONE AND DESERVE TO BE IN TWW MORE THAN ANY OTHER FUCKING RACE AND IT PAINS ME THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ADDED

FUCK CHAOS
FUCK ELVES
FUCK BEASTMEN PRETENDER SHITS
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I'm looking at another mod for Napoleon Total War.
Should I go for Napoleon Order Of War, or La montee de l"Empire?
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That concludes it
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>>147713939
The denial is real
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>>147714112

Tomb Kings
Tomb Kings
Tomb Kings
Tomb Kings
Tomb Kings
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>>147714112
fuck, forgot chaos!

But now we know how relevant each faction actually is
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>chaos is closing in
>horsefuckers declare war
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>>147713776
> the game doesn't take place in AoS
Proof, please. Better the statement of Developers that this is indeed 8th edition and not custom where they decide which one add and which one ignore.

>CA said they want all 16 factions in the game.
Link or go fuck yourself.

>Stop liking what I don't like
>Is not an argument.

Where i wrote that you should stop liking what i don't like?
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>>147714192
Yes, about as relevant as Radious and Kislev
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Do you guys use Hunnic infantry or do you go full horsefucker?
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>>147714208
>>147714112
B E S T
E
S
T
M A N
A
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>>147714208

> Kings
> not Kangz
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>>147714208
>no Ogres
>but Kislev and Tomb Kings
twg truly has shit taste
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>>147714208
>Chaos most relevant
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>>147714290
Always go full horse fucker, except for possibly one specialized siege horde. You don't want infantry to slow you down, and they can't kite, which is your main tactic.
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>>147713587
>Greenskins wood
Gimgor Irondick truly is the greatest
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>tfw I would have won that shitty quest battle but I forgot to turn down the difficulty so the AI doesn't get bullshit +100000 leadership
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>>147713189
>FUCK SHIT KILL
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>>147714208
>chaos > empire
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>147713948
T.Skaven
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>new update cranks up my driver fps from 26 to 46 on a potato processor
>Also fucks up and washes out all colors on everything.
fug, does anyone know why this could be happening?
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>>147713948
GREY SEER THANQUOL, LORD OF THE VERMINTIDE
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Finished possibly the most bizarre TWW playthrough yet. Ended the long play through controlling all of the Dawi territory, but more interestingly finished it with an alliance that included, The Empire, Bretonnia, Border Princes and *drum roll* Vampire Counts. And mind you it wasn't some shitty typical TW alliance where everyone hates each other and breaks the alliance up when a 70 strength faction declares war on one of them, every faction within the alliance held at least a 60+ diplomacy rating with one another.
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ANTICIPATED FACTIONS OFFICIAL TIER LIST:

SCALY/FURRY (AKA GOD) TIER:
Lizardmen, Beastmen, Skaven

HIGH TIER:
Ogre Kingdoms, Chaos Daemons

STILL NOT ANNOUNCED TIER:
Tomb Kangs

POINTY EARED, TREACHEROUS, BEARDLESS PANSY TIER:
High Elves, Wood Elves, Dark Elves

NOT GONNA HAPPEN TIER:
Chaos Dwarfs Dogs of warany expansion of minor races ;_;
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Would adding mercenaries break the game?
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I think I'm about to lose my Empire campaign fuck
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>>147715730

It doesn't make sense for a lot of factions
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>>147715736
How? Did you fuck up the start? That's the only way I can see anyone losing.
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Give me your best Karl Franz /twg/
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what did he mean by this?
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do mods work in co-op campaigns, and do they break the game? eg. desyncs and whatnot?

If they do work, are there any fun ones that are must haves. I just started an orc and a vamp campaign yesterday and I'm having fun. The vamps raise dead in particular has been pretty silly at times for me.
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>>147715891

Not him, but I lost my VH Empire campaign about 90 turns in from just a maelstrom of fucked shit. I've played every faction except Chaos and Empire always felt like I was walking on the razors edge of complete catastrophe compared to the others.

Example, one of the Orc hordes from real early on suddenly farts back into the Empire from the south, with a full stack and proceeds to just raze 6 towns in my core region in my less defended provinces.
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>>147716149
How could they raze 6 towns? Didn't you have walls on everything? A single stack should manage two walled towns at best.
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>>147712986
High Elves were so boring in how broad but still good their roster was.
Not the best but the most consistently good.

Lizardmen a best.
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Fuck those fucking Skaeling, spamming those atrocious poison dogs, horsecock riders, nigger trolls, exemplar skills, raiding every fucking where, while I'm chasing the Everchosen and Prince Cocksucer in useless dwarf mountains with fucking attrition, REEEEE.
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Dear /twg/

For someone who is deeply in love with Attila: TW, please tell me why would buying Rome 2 with all its DLC as it is today a bad thing.

What is STILL wrong with Rome 2 with all the addons and patches today?

Should I buy it or not? Mind you, coming from soneone who adores Attila.
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>>147717008

It's just a worse version of Attila in everyway
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>>147717008
If you're getting the game anyway, why not just get the base game first, try it out, and then get the DLC if you like it?
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>>147717064

But do elaborate, please!
I need some serious opinions, because the comfy setting draws me in.

AFAIK it only lacks - burning, family tree [tho it does have minimal 'politics']... what else?
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>>147717064
Rome 2 setting > Attila setting
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>>147717008

Shogun 2 = Total Warhammer > Attila > Shit of the rest
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>>147717115

I might, but I do want to hear your honest opinions as to WHY.

Read >>147717130
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>>147713078
>more bretonnia armies than VC

I doubt the accuracy of this poll
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>>147717143

Mods
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>>147715891
First playthrough, Chaos ripped right the fuck through the northern provinces, my main army just defeated 2 and a half full Varg stacks but lost 2/3rds of its strength, my other armies are undermanned since I was building up military infrastructure and money generating buildings like crazy, thinking I had more time.
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>>147717008
Really not much is wrong with Rome 2 any more. Of course there's the fact that there's no family trees but you can still get some fairly interesting politics going on. I like it more than shogun 2, because shogun 2 has no variety. I like it more than attila because Attila still and will forever run like a 210 year old asthmatic tortoise with arthritis in its knees. It's honestly my favorite warscape tw game next to warhams now.
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>>147717158

Can you elaborate? I am asking for honest opinions which are elaborated upon.

Total Warhammer is great, I admit, but to put as high as Shogun 2? It's basically Rome 2 / ATTILA styled TW with mechanics cut and spread among the factions to make them diverse. And then not all is there.

Sure, the setting is awesome and it has that comfy HOMM thing going for it.

As to Shogun 2 - I actually like Attila more.
As why does Shogun
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>>147717265
...are unfinished buggy mess.
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>>147715605
>NOT GONNA HAPPEN
>Chaos Dwarfs
I hate this meme, they'll be in.

Yes to everything else though, fuck elves
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>>147713102
Any improvement in performance if you're not SLI?
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Personally I always get annoyed when I play Rome 2 because there's no building browser, you can't see what your generals/agents abilities build towards and the encyclopedia is beyond shit.

The core gameplay is good enough, but it's the small things that really drive me up against the wall and prevents me from enjoying it.
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>>147716064
>Peace is for the weak!
>Are you weak?
Well anon, are you?
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What is Rome 2 missing from Attila?

I seriously would like to know.
Can someone tell me?

Family trees are missing, burning on the battlefield is missing, razing is missing, religion is missing (tho it has culture in its place).

Anything else? Because truth be told, TW has more shit cut, and people seem to love it (I do too, just wondering whether I should get Rome 2 and not be dissapointed).
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>>147715762
Except that mercs are from every race too, including orcs and undead.
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>>147717443
meant for
>>147717226
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>>147717361

I don't know but there is this >>147714960
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>>147717443

Oh, so no building browser as in Attila?
OK, first honest to god argument.

Anything else?
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>Turn 267 as Dawi
>Only one faction left that doesn't even control 1/3rd of the map; Brittonia

Sigh. I finally got good, got my dream armies set up. Some for demolishing forts and structures, others specialized for anti infantry, yet I can't even flex my muscles. The game peaked way too early (turn 84) and now I'm left as a super nation with no challengers.

There needs to be more end game content or at least, some AI function that acknowledges you can take on multiple stacks of high end units en mass now. Orcs never got their giants or Araknaroks, Chaos went without Dragon orges and such, V.cunts never got more than their infantry. It just FEELS like there is a lot more content I missed out on.

I am the king of a single person empire.
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>try out chaos expecting fast paced map domination and battles
>every enemy lord has 20 units of missile calvary set on skirmish mod
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>Druchii still not announced
WAKE ME UP
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>>147717562

There is too many small things to list, suffice it to say Rome 2 is missing a bunch of features added into Attila
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>>147717319
>It's basically Rome 2 / ATTILA styled TW with mechanics cut and spread among the factions to make them diverse.

>Flying units
>Magic
>Corruption
>Quests
>Waaagh
>Grudges
>Manually guided artillery projectile/goblin
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>>147717667
>chaos invades
>every chaos army has 12 units of marauder cavalry on skirmish mode, 2 units of trolls and the rest are cheap ass marauders

JUST
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>>147717319

Why are people so obsessed with S2, yeah it was polished but it's just an overall boring and bland game. How can people enjoy playing with identical factions all with only the 3 same type of units.
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>>147717319
>It's basically Rome 2 / ATTILA styled TW with mechanics cut and spread among the factions to make them diverse. And then not all is there.

Half of the new features have never been in a Total War game before.
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>>147717484
Thats about it.

It isn't a bad TW at all, it has much more features than WH
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>>147717851
>implying the gameplay and your armies don't change depending on what clan you play

Faggot.
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>>147717562
Generally, the issue with Rome 2 is that its UI is terrible.
You want to know if it's better to build a market versus building a temple? You don't know unless you either waste time and resources to try it out or go looking trough the encyclopedia, which is a nightmare to look through because of the huge amount of factions in both the main game and the various campaigns. Not to mention it is slow as shit and not always correct.

You want to know if you should give your general/agent/army upgrade A or upgrade B? You don't know which one is better since you don't know how well they scale with their later upgrades and you have no way of knowing what other upgrades they lead into. This makes planning ahead really hard to do without alt-tabbing out and looking for the information on the internet - if you can even find it.

Then there's some more subjective shit, like I personally hate the unit and building icons and I think the campaign map is really empty and boring to look at.

And I almost forgot about the corruption mechanic. Granted, I haven't played it in a long while, but I remember the corruption being capped at 95% or so, meaning you're making no money late game and it just stops your momentum when taking over the undeveloped provinces of the AI. There's nothing to stop you from blitzing a faction, except if would bankrupt you from the increase to corruption. This can of course only happen once, but it can completely kill your campaign if you're no prepared for it.

And then there's the garrisons. With the emperor edition they ruined the garrisons in the game. Any city will never have more than 10 units defending it (of which you'll always have 2-4 units of plebs or equivalent, which are useless), even when upgraded to the max, meaning you're completely dependent on your armies to defend your shit. And this also means you don't face any resistance and can just zerg an entire faction once you break their armies.
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>>147717851
Makes for great screens and rp for me, plus you have the middle ground between Empire/R2 grand campaign that covers half the world and the peninsular/aoc/whatever smaller campaigns, which can be nice sometimes if you want more detail but still have more breathing room.
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>>147717851
what the fuck are you on about?

a spear unit is still a spear unit in rome 2
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>>147716254

The stack was mostly big uns, big un boar riders and about 6 units of trolls. Shit rolls over garbage empire garrisons. The only one that did any damage was the one town I had a Reiksfort in it. Their general was some how fucking level 17 also
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>>147717851


>he doesn't know about Takeda Motherfuckin' Shingen

kys famalam
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>>147718227
That is why history is a terrible setting for total war games.
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>>147718810
They should really stick to things like 40k and LotR
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>>147718848
They should just fucking stick to WHFB.
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Well I learned never ever to take vassals. Enemies are like weeds got to exterminate them all or they will build up 3 stacks and randomly declare war against you.
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>>147716064
STUMPED
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>>147719710
You have to treat your vassals nicely. The game tries to deteriorate your relations as it goes along, and you have to continuously manage it.

I had great use of having that green Vampire faction as vassals during my Vampire campaign. They roamed my home area and fended of intruders, and once in a while sent some stacks up north and slapped Chaos and Norscans for me
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>>147720380
I should of bribed them, they declared war after I made them my vassal shortly after I dominated them. What was really annoying was the last property I allowed them was corruption free and by all means they shouldn't have been able to raise 3 stacks, but the ai cheats it's ass off.
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I JUST FUCKING REALIZED I CAN UPGRADE A SKILL MULTIPLE TIMES
FUUUUUUCK
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>>147721648
All it does is improve cool down, it's useless.
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>>147721719
I think he meant in general.
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>>147721719

Most of the ordinary skills are utter shit if you don''t max them.
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>got right outside of varg camp as kholek before getting absolutely fucking destroyed by a giant army of super units
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>>147714146

You have issues
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why does warhammer feel so bare bones and tiny. future dlcs and updates are gonna have to really salvage this shit
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Do hero bonuses stack? Ex: i put 4 necromancers in a province and they each have +15% to income.

Also do balefires stack? Should i only build one in the capitol or one on every minor city as well?
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>>147722818
Buildings stack.

I'm not sure about heores, though. I know their deploy bonus no longer stacks, but I don't know if their passive bonuses still stacks.
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>>147713110
yes, the dwarven way
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>screams internally
I don't want to lose my Daimyo
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>>147723792
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>>147723792
Then you shouldn't have fucked up, son.
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>border princes don't let me pass
Fuck off, I want to remove greenskins
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>>147723792
>tfw you finish your whole campaign with the starting daimyo
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>>147722405
> Marauders, dogs, and trolls
> super units

Get a fire Sorceror if skirmisher cav gives you trouble.
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What skills are most important for mannfred? I'm afraid I'm going to miss out on some key stuff because of the limited skill points.

In fact, is there a general rule of thumb for what stuff to take over others when it comes to lords?
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>>147712894

keep on rollin'
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>>147724464
Definitely go for 3 ticks of replenishment.

Death spells you need not go farther than Fate of Bjuna, vortexes are ass. Aspect of Dreadknight and Doom and Darkness are useful too.

In Vamp lore, the passive one is good, as well as Raise Dead. Gaze of Nagash is a bit tricky to use with terrain, but the Zombie Dragon solves that. You might want to go for Earthing if you plan on a lot of overcasting.

After that, I just went straight into melee skills.
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>>147724282
i had just fought a battle destroying one of vargs capitals and was pretty wounded

i encamped and suddenly this huge army appeared and raped me twice
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>He lets his greatswords receive aa charge
>He uses his greatswords as line infantry

What the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>147723943
True though I didn't have much of a choice seeing as everybody declared war on me the second I went independent so my troops are spread pretty thin. Thankfully my fleet is keeping reinforcements away from the mainland.

>>147724249
Best feel. Hopefully i can win this
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>>147724948
>he still uses non-GS infantry by the time GS are available

What are you, a poorfag?
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I should re-install Nappy or Empire again one of these days.
They were always fun, and I usually won all the battles I fought, but despite that, I never actually felt like I was good at the game.

Anyone else feel like that?
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>>147725042
Nope but my dire wolves and Cav like how your ass and side and front taste
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>>147724948

Greatswords are better line infantry than any of the line infantry units
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>>147725042
>he doesn't forge a massive anvil out of halbardiers, then hammers the enemy infantry with greatswords
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>>147725356

>Hammering with anything that isn't Demigryphs

Halbardiers are a waste of slots
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Is there anyone who plays multiplayer battles? Which one is most op shit to avoid? Which one is most fun shit to play?
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>>147725094
yes NTW was quite hard even though you didnt lose it was atleast a challenge. I think its the nature of the warfare, in melee games you win easily by hammer and anvil every time. In gunpowder games you're primarily being shot at and TW ai is quite good at shooting.
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>playing Chaos VH and it's impossible.

seriously Skaelings have SIX (6) stacks at turn 30. How the fuck am I supposed to defeat that?
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>>147725235
Good thing I'm using GS and not shit infantry.
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>Enemy breaks before your handgunners can flank and I can watch

ITS NOT FAIR!
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>>147725793
TW AI was awful at shooting especially ETW. Also your forgetting that archers exist in previous TW titles and Archers have always been the most cost-effective unit in any pre-industrial revolution Total war.
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>>147726000
>enemies break before the battle even gets good

there needs to be a to the death mod or at least less chance for fleeing
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>>147716064


He was fishing for info, he played you anon.

The CA Total War AI has achieved self-awareness.
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>>147726339
this
he was testing your war resolve.
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>Pyrrhic victory
I call bullshit.
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>>147726213
No everybody basically agrees the AI in this game is built for shooting not melee

The ai in general is embarrassingly bad and CA should be ashamed
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How playable is ETW with Imperial Splendour?
I dislike the focused frame and timespan of NTW.
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>>147725793
It's more a case of higher lethality really. In melee-focused games you usually can reliably form a main line of hardy troops and have it receive the brunt of the enemy force, and if you put better troops in the main line they're most probably going to perform much better. In Empire/Napoleon even the lowest unit can shoot your men dead if they get close, arrows are more lethal than what you're used to because of no armor, and melee is quick and brutal for the same reason. If you put grenadiers or guards in the main line they're going to win a fair fight against line infantry but at a much higher cost than what a dismounted knight unit against spearmen would, so you have to use them differently.

tl;dr everything is a glass cannon, or just glass
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>Empire starts in 1700
>United Kingdom is a starting faction
>no Act of Union event to merge Scotland and England in 1707
>mfw

My historical autism knows no bounds.
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I'm running on a 6600k and I'm disappointed a bit with the performance. Anyone else?
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>>147726497
I don't really share your certainty that you could afford to lose 500 more men with that army anon, but who am I to judge?
>>147726512
I'd rather suggest Darthmod with the playable minors mod, no doomfilter, more immersion and any faction has a good roster to play with.
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>>147726694
Does DM also give the various factions recognisable strengths and weaknesses?
Like Russia being good at melee and Prussia being good at shooting the shit out of me?
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>>147726570
scotland is really just england
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>>147725356
That's completely retarded
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>>147726570
CA have got more historically accurate over time but people still bitch.

Well, the factions have, the units in Attila started getting fantasy tier but at least the factions were right
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>>147725356
It's alright anon I feel you, some of these guys here are just tryhard gaylords with NO BALLS. They can't pull off anything flashy or glorious if it hurts their chances of winning due to a lack of aforementioned balls.
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>>147726785
Yes, both in stats and unit numbers quality is going to be differen between nations. Playing against russia is a short stand before they affix bayonets while going against austria means the usual stand and shooty. Curiously enough prussia tended to get up close and personal pretty often against me, but the infantry charges were well timed with death's head hussars so there's that. It probably just all clicked into place but it was a pretty "oh shit" moment when they just ignored one of my flanks like that and collapsed the other switching the battlefield by 90°
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>>147725963
You defeat it by ________________git gud__________________________
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>>147726000


Fucking this. Battles are so retardedly fast in Warhams that you barely have time to hammer and anvil before one side or the other have broken.
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anyone have a link to that website with all the total war tactics? like shoot to the right etc. etc.?
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>>147726000

>not surrounding enemy armies and massacring them the last
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>>147727146
That sounds fun. Maybe I'll finally try to play as Prussia, the idea of having high quality units sounds pretty fun.

Any tips?
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>>147727206
use radius mod.
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>>147727310
Don't
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>>147727303
Tips about what?

In general I'd say that playing as prussia is sort of like playing as some minors at start, you're surrounded by a bunch of factions that could all gang up on you if you're weak. At start you don't want to slowly build up your economy but get a big strong army going so that your power ranking will make AI minors think twice before dowing you. While you're weak at start no one will want to trade with you, that will change once you become one of the big players. Sometimes the AI will just dow you no matter what right after you conquer a region, don't be afraid to actually give that region to them in exchange for money, peace agreements and anything you want, they'll stop bothering you. The AI almost always won't betray you when it has military access, you can use 20 turns concessions to get better diplomatic leverage. When in doubt on how to develop a settlement, build schools.
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>>147727310
>Chosen Armoured Hex Demigryph Ironbreakers (Great Weapons, Trollhammer Torpedo)
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Can someone post the Bretonnia horse, Empire knights with Dawi Trollhammer Torpedos on their shoulders, not on hips?
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>>147725963


Skaeling are like Kislev and Tilea/Estalia/border princes. A low-tech version of another faction.

So if you think about it they can't field the really good stuff like chaos knights, mutant trolls, daemon cannons etc. etc.

This opens up several new dynamics in your favor on the battlefield.

So with that in mind you have to git gud.
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>>147727572
>>147728307
?
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>>147729308
I ask you: Do you want total war? If necessary, do you want a war more total and radical than anything that we can even imagine today?

Radious mod is not a mod to be taken literally. It is saturated with an abundance of metaphors and symbolism; some painfully and intentionally obvious whiles others painfully subtle. It is not particularly intelligent and never makes any attempts at being profound. Although occasionally nonsensical and gratuitously pornographic, it would be wrong to judge Radious mod on its face value alone.

Radious mod is the ugly duckling: scorned for unsightliness, but an ethereal swan from the start. It is a fairytale of vibrant colours and simple joys. It truly is that brilliant painting of which a fleeting glimpse you catch, but an enduring impression you get.

In conclusion, I do not think Radious mod deserves all the ridicule and hatred that is being dished out. The stringency and inadaptability of the traditional historical and lore friendly approach practiced by so called "understanders of strategy" is to blame for this. Hoc salsum esse putas? fugit te, inepte: quamuis sordida res et inuenusta est. Radious mod is unshackled from such rigidities and doing so through homosexuality rather than the vapid norm, it sheds light on the enigma which has eluded psychologists for centuries.

Nun, Volk, steh auf und Sturm brich los!
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How do you fix it?
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>>147729298
sure but 6stacks of chaos marauders, posion warhounds, chaos chariots etc will still rek my one army of chaos warriors
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>>147729458
Why would you write this kind of shitpost to look smart. Couldn't you say that Radious mod considered shit for?
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>It's a Skaeling fucking shits army with literally nothing but marauder horsemen and warhounds against a standard formation Empire army

fucking why fampino
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Would this pc be able to play warhammer on ultra?
Would a newer graphics card be needed?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freshtech-F2A68HM-HD2-Motherboard-Performance-Certified/dp/B00UC9YI1Q/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1467909955&sr=1-4&keywords=gaming+pc
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>>147729308
>Greatsword Thunderer Pegasus Knight Black Orcs (Shielded, Greatweapons, Flying)
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>>147729903
Like this.
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>>147727310
>armored hammerer slayers
this one isn't even fake
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>>147729903
You don't
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How the fuck did it take that long to develop bayonets that you can have fixed while firing?

You just put a knife under your gun

holy shit europeans are fucking retarded
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NO

SLEEP

TILL BEASTMEN
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>>147730704
It's sad to see that all that hindsight and cumulative knowledge really didn't help you being less of an idiot.
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>>147730907
>People want a worse Chaos/Greenskin combo race
smfh tbqh
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you could've stopped it...
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>>147729903
You don't, it was just too pure and perfect for this world
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>>147731724
Reminds me of the aoe cheat actually, could we get something like that?
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>>147730104
Uninspired and repetitive as mods nowadays are, many a disillusioned fan don’t hesitate to call out the medium as fallen. Along comes Radious mod, the latest entry to modding self-critique and introspection.

On the surface Radious mod seems like your ordinary mod which is seemingly unremarkable but whose charm is so irresistible yet so subtle, that the people who've played it cannot but fall for it, much to the frustration of some self proclaimed "understanders of strategy" who cannot see any logic to these affections. Os et labra tibi lingit, Manneia, catellus: non miror, merdas si libet esse cani.

Unlike our hack-ridden mod industry, Radious Mod uses metaphors in an excruciatingly subtle way. Sharp-eyed spectators should be able to spot the humanistic properties Radious mod displays. Radious mod is a self-aware and self-referencing work. It points out the flaws and implausibilities which often plague its genre, yet offers no alternative. Though criticized for conforming to its genre without innovation, composing the rest of the mod with uninspiring features essential in achieving what Radious mod wishes to do. While it does highlight the unrealism which plagues the modding community, it also serves to illustrate the irrationality of passion and infatuation, which which is shown by the hatred often spewed at this masterpiece. Poor Radious is left with naught, but to hunger evermore.

The team is aware of the flaws and tropes in their work, but artistic integrity has to be weighed against the harsh market. Even so, no artist wishes to make hollow trash as much as “understanders of strategy” so often may think. Behind these stories are genuine emotions, far more so than half-assed criticisms by blind followers of objectivism.

I don’t think this mod justifies an arbitrary rating of stars; it’s much better than that. It deserves a place among the highest modern philosophical works of our world. "Nietzsche, thy name is Radious."
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>>147730704
How the fuck did it take that long to develop a spear?

You just tie a sharp rock to one end of a long stick

holy shit cavemen are retarded
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>>147731465
Sure do.

Ya chaos has the higher tier infantry (that can never pay for itself). But Beastie Boys have missile infantry, more access to frenzy, maybe be like Picts with the whole all vanguard and they have interesting monsters with ranged attacks, access to better monsterous infantry and base flying units that should be a decent combatant.

Should be a fun shock faction. Less talking, more raiding.
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>>147732295
How the fuck did it take that long to develop a sharp rock?

You just hit a rock with another rock until they get sharp

holy shit homo sapiens are fucking retarded
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>>147732295
Cavemen WERE retarded so are you agreeing with me? Fucking worthless whitey aren't so smart afterall.
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>>147732585
WE
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>>147730957
>>147732547
>>147732295
>implying it is not inferior genetics that caused this lag in technology
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>>147732714
WUZ
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>>147731724
>>147729064
ty
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>>147732714
>>147732821
THIS MEME DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>147732585
If they were retarded they would still be running around in furs n sheet waiting to be conquered by a superior civilisation that got bored with sitting in their old lands
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>>147733093
SUMMON THE ELECTOR KANGZ
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>>147732295
Pre-historic humans had to fight the elements and had to develop the tools to create progressively more advanced tools that would eventually allow them to create spears WHILE ALSO still developing their brains and actively adapting to their environment as they left Africa.

18th century white people had already made bayonets, but you had to stick em in your gun which is fucking retarded.
I can make a bayonet with a butter knife and duct tape nigga these Europeans had entire nations of wealth and ingenuity behind them and didnt make a non-shit bayonet until way later.
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>>147733408
Congrats.
With the benefit of evolution, education, knowledge of history and modern technology, and the power of hindsight, you are smarter than someone from 300 years ago!
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>>147733408
Swords and hatchets hadn't completely lived out their usefulness by that time, weapons like that would have still been used in close quarters so you could say they just had bigger concerns really.
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>>147712927
>Veiny tits
>Pampered flour facemask.
>Aesthetic beautymark on tits and on upper corner lip.
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pls post the toddbringer pic when you see him from the back while walking towards an empire force.
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http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731465-WARHAMMER-Radious-Total-Units-Mod-%28Released-30-5-2016%29&p=14991417#post14991417

give me 1 reason why you aren't using this
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>>147733245


>Elector Kangz

oh lawd
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>>147712831
so what's going on with tabletop? they canceled everything and now they have this Warcraft flavored thing people call Shitmar?
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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
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>>147730907
>poo poo
>pee pee
>where's the Beastmen DLC?
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>>147734356
I'm not a filthy casual?
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>>147734356
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>>147734976
Pretty sure beastmen are going to be released with the Wood Elves since they are sworn enemies and they pretty much fight and dwell in the same woodland area.
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>>147733408
>I can make a bayonet with a butter knife and duct tape

Good luck field testing that
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>>147712894
roel
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>>147733408
>Pre-historic humans had to fight the elements and had to develop the tools to create progressively more advanced tools that would eventually allow them to create spears WHILE ALSO still developing their brains and actively adapting to their environment as they left Africa

Too bad that the ones staying there didn't get any of that.
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>>147735626
fug off lucas
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>>147735429
When CA's dlc plan is still unchanged we'll get Beastmen first with a mini-campaign in the Drakwald forest.
Then I guess Bretonnia and after them the Wood Elf mini-campaign in and around Athel Loren (also with Beastmen)
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>tfw reading through the faction list on the steam page before it came out
>tfw no chaos
>tfw jokingly assume they'll be released as day 1 DLC because they're the most popular faction in Warhammer
They actually gone and done it huh?
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>>147734356
>Black Arrer Boyz
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>>147734976
I like my spam better, Beastie Boys are a good faction nickname and the orcs are better known for shitting on things than Beastmen
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>>147735327
looks good to me
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>>147735878
They were free for the first week or when pre-ordering

>>147734356
>Skeleton Archers
It's time to kill this guy
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>>147735878
Welcome to 7 months ago. How's that rock treating you?
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>>147735327
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>>147736084
>>147736040

whats wrong with skeleton archers
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>>147736597
>what's wrong with armored Slayers
>what's wrong with Warriors Priests riding Chaos Manticores using Grenade Launchers
It's simply against the lore/rules of an formerly established fantasy universe.
How about Roman Mounted Legionnaire Archers? Sounds great, don't you think?
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>>147736597
There's a reason VC don't have ranged units.
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>>147736597
game balance and faction variety, everyone having the same unit types is just boring and no tw had that
well, except for shogun 2
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>>147736978
which is
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>>147736597
Making every faction decent/good at everything makes them just reskins of one another offering no critical thought of what are your comparative advantages over your enemy are as well as managing your weaknesses to that same faction.

And its that same idea that is every single radious unit mod. Make everyone decent at everything. Whats next imperial giants to "make up" for empire's lack of monsters?
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>>147734356
who should I play as
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>>147737157
You have too many mounts around the empire roster to say that they don't get monsters
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>>147736597
Nothing. There is nothing wrong with skeleton archers. They should be shitty to keep faction flavor, but there is nothing in lore saying SKELETONS COULD NEVER EVER TAKE A BOW AND SHOOT IT. FIGHT IN MELEE, BLOCKING, STRIKING AND DODGING - THAT'S FINE, BUT SHOOTING AN ARROW? NUH-UH.
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>>147737416
Everyone has flying and monsterous mounts anon (aside dorfs), not the point of the post either.
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>>147736597
Skeleton archers are property of Tomb Kings.
Do not steal.
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QUICK QUESTION TOTAL WAR NERDS!

How many armies should I be fielding during the Chaos invasion ?
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>>147737727
But the empire is THE decent at everything faction. Their point used to be THE COMMON MAN AGAINST ALL ODDS and using combined arms, but instead they get monster mounts as regular units instead of heroes only like if they were fucking ogre cavalry, and their top units shit over the others in the game 1v1.
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>>147737721
They had archers.
They where so incredibly awful they NEVER got used.
Literally worse than gobbo archers.
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>>147737416
>horse
>barded horse
>pegasus
>deathclaw

Only one is actually gives you a big boost to your army's effectiveness with raw damage and a significant HP boost, the other 3 are purely for mobility.

What are you smokin bruv?
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>>147737934
27
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>>147737979
Not sure what you are hitting at here.

I agree their base infantry is too good right now, even more so when considering their costs. Demis are supposed to be really rare but that stipulation isn't really enforced so you see them all over the place.

The other monsterous mounts are all on lords and heroes which I don't have a problem with
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>>147737934

1 at least
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S L A A N E S H
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>>147738701
depend of your faction

but field 3 armies: one to stop the norscan invasions, one to kill minor chaos armies and a big one to fuck them up, supported by the previous one
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These poor skeletons are being bombarded by Imperial bully-class meanstorm rockets.

1 like= 1 prayer
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Warhammer killed this general
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>>147739321
>muh gook memes!

good ridance
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>>147739321
>look at all the constructive posts I'm not writing

Next you'll say that old /twg/ had interesting discussion every day and no shitposting
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>>147738753
SLAANESH'S PERVERSE GLORY
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>>147739321
Good for you
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>>147739540
nice, wut mod?
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>>147738753

>nipples

DELETE
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>>147739072
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>>147740118
NO, THIS THREAD NOW BELONGS TO THE PRINCE OF PLEASURE
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>>147740116
That campaign had 2

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707360704

this one gives you champions of the 4 gods and a few others

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=704931161

this one gives access to regular warriors divided as well as some more lower tier options and a Khornate and Nurgle Exalted Heroes. This mod is my favorite unit mod and nothing out of lore or absurd
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>skeleton archers
Skeletons have no eyes idiots, how would they aim?
Just a logic thing dudes
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Oh god getting towards endgame as VC and the Empire have been wiped out by Chaos and the Dwarves are next.

I've seen their stacks with Skaeling and Varg and they scare me my friends.
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Why is the AI in this so opposed to diplomacy?

Even trade routes that would benefit them a fair bit, are they really too stupid for their own good?

Do I have to smack a bitch?
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WHO DAC HERE
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>>147741187
they dont want your cheese
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so i'm playing as dwarfs and the entire empire has been destroyed, is there anyway to bring them back?
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>>147739063
All you need for the main one is lightning strike and common sense
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Did the Total Warhammer release fuck up this general as much as the Rome 2 release did?
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>>147740609
Good taste, they make the chaos campaign a lot more flavorful and interesting.

I wish Tzeentch Chosen weren't just two colors with horns. I hope the creator plans to update their models.

Sometimes I feel guilty for using 200 model cultist units that have next to no upkeep. Then they take ~140 casualties to Dwarf warriors.
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Ogre Kingdoms when?
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>>147741187
Yea this always pissed me off, many things in total war are designed to throw rocks in your pat, if they AI wouldnt fucking cheat to the max they would desperately need that money, but nope.
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Why the fuck light order mage stronger than fire moron?
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>>147744556
A few turns after that Middenland wanted a trade agreement even though they wouldn't get half of what I was getting.

The consistancy is all fucked up.
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>>147742678
I tweak the .pack files sometimes for balancing (also I run a +25% ultra units mod so I always have to change unit numbers). Cultists I lowered attack, Khorne warriors I buffed defense to warrior level, I pay more and they still have board and sword. I refuse to use plauge zombies those things have so much health.

Actually just today Chaos Divided added the Nurgle EH and Knights, having a whole army with poison attacks and high health will be fun. I want to hold off the next Chaos campaign when its all wrapped up.
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>>147745181
Light wizard magic missiles are very long range and are very strong at sniping lords, other damage spells are mostly useless and people don't care about buffs, so there you go.
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https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/5253971

Slaanesh demons when?
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>leave for about half a year, come back
>these threads are nothing but warhammer discussion now

it's official, /twg/ is gay now.
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>>147746869

>come to general
>discussion largely focused on the new game

whoa,,,,,,,,
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>>147747197
dumbass don't give him a (you)

we already had this shitpost >>147739321
, only feed one per thread as tradition
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>>147734356
>Lets give every faction every unit type and make every faction good at every thing.
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In ETW, should I build a second school ASAP or should I use my earliest available town for industry?
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>tfw went to the french army museum and saw Napoopan's tomb, François the First's armor and lots and lots of /fa/ helmets

I'm glad the Empire in warhammer have those XVIth century armors, they were the best
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>>147747197
>largely

you mean entirely. There is absolutely no discussion besides this warhammer game.
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>>147747948

but the other games are bad :=)
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Roll for old times' sake
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>>147747948
Then post something you want to talk about. Don't be a whiny bitch waiting for chad to text you.

>>147748148
sure
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>>147747776
pls respond i suck at shooty fighting and need all the help i can get
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>>147748465
school
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>>147748465
industry
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>>147748465
Neither
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>>147748465
In all seriousness go school. you tech up quickly to fire by rank, then you'll wreck everyone.
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>>147747836
The Empire a best
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we dead?
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>>147750531
everybody is watching the football match, I believe
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>>147750624
i'm posting in three generals and waching the game
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I don't get why I always lose so many units in warhammer but in other TWs I don't lose as many
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>>147750843
The battles are fast and the casualty rate is high.
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Is there a 40 unit army mod? The really big scraps allow to capitalize on composition diversity a lot more and even with the combat speed its a 15 minute fight still.

I just want to be able to deploy in depth and have room to bring expendables and other support units.
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>>147752053
Why don't you bring two armies then?
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>>147724249

>conquer most of the land
>come over to kyoto
>this fucker rocks out of the shadows
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>>147752613

>can't coda the Oda!
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Is Karl Franz his grand grand grand grand grand .........father?
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>>147752589
Getting the AI to commit to a 2v2 isn't the easiest, even more when you are the attacker since they have to be in the right spot AND they AI won't run away (which it always does unless it thinks it has a super advantage). Also with reinforcements going fucking everywhere 2's can turn into huge clusterfucks without letting you really set up anything.

Far more likely the AI retreats and splits up and you get an autoresolve on one stack
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>>147742590
Nothing will ever come close to that until M3 comes out and inevitably is not perfect, then M2fags will implode due to terminal butthurt.
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>>147753260

WHF and W40k aren't related.
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>>147752613
>>147752875

>implying I wouldn't deal with him the exact same way I deal with any general that looks at me sideways
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>>147753260

>Emprah
>Needing trivial human traits like a father

But seriously, officially there is no connection between WFB and 40k, since 40k was originally just Warhammer IN SPACE until it grew into it's own distinct lore.

Fan-cannon is that the Old World is a planet in the 40k universe and that the Imperium just hasn't found it yet, which would explain Orcs and Chaos and all that.
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>>147753386
Fair enough. I usually find that focusing on the enemy's cities and towns instead of their armies will usually force them to engage you, and then they'll bring everything they have. Of course Chaos is a chase-scene in all scenarios.

Look up Units Stack Resizing on the workshop.
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>>147754036

Fuck I always hated the ninja shorts for daimyo. That teeth grinding agony when you wait to see if it worked or not drove me nuts
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Playing empire total war. Are there any decisive units? Like in rome you can usually crush one side with cav or in warhammer missiles do a ton of work. In empire does the side with the most musket men just win? Cannons dont do much unless you are using canister shot. cav are pretty iffy
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>>147752613
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>>147755235
cav is a bit of a glass cannon, they die easily, unless its the heaviest of the cuirassiers, but if they get a good charge they will completely annihilate the unit they hit and might collapse the whole line

a bayonet charge by grenadiers can do something similar, so can ghurkas and various melee auxiliaries
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>>147755235
high-tier artillery is amazing, pull up some howitzers behind your line and as soon as everyone stops to start firing unleash hell. It's how I used to beat Great Britain builds with massive line spam. A weaker line will win with howitzer support.

Other than that, heavy cavalry is extremely effective when you manage to get a charge in between volleys and they don't square. You can drag them through multiple line units and prevent them from firing while your line keeps shooting.

Also, skirimishers are pretty powerful with cav support. If you have cavalry and skrimisher superiority you can quite easily kite armies since they don't have the mobility to hold you in place
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>>147755235

If you rush bayonets early you'll steamroll everyone.
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Why does CA insist on doing their DLC's at such a slow rate?

They honestly can't expect a cosmetic DLC to hold people off for another month or two. The game needs CONTENT, badly
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>>147755235
Elite units die as fast as regular ones if that's what you mean, so no invulnerable deathstar roaming through the field, but some units are definitely better than others. Artillery requires a bit of micro to use more effectively if you find that leaving them in auto isn't cutting it, never had the problem honestly because I mainly use it to counterbattery enemy arty asap and then leave them on auto as the rest of the army does the job. Cavalry can be very powerful but you need to pay attention if the enemy has bayonets and access to square formation. Guards and grenadiers are definitely better than regular line infantry but again, as they die as fast as regulars and sometimes even have less men, you need to pay attention instead of just leaving them in the line.
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>>147756026
To give arch less viewers
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>>147756026
Doing it quicky and rushing it would backfire pretty heavily given that DLC is going to be a big earner for Warhammer
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>>147748465
Depends on your faction. I can only speak for vanilla, but be sure to put it somewhere where you can keep public order under control (ie, not a region with religious tensions).
I always convert (haha!) the starting theological colleges as GB, France and Poland.
>>147749818 knows what he's talking about.

Fuck me, I wasn't ready for this nostalgia
>Empire:TW is now SEVEN years old
WAKE ME UP
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>>147757416
Playing Prussia. I'm at 1 college and 2 schools, upgrading currently.
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>>147757571
You've already won the game at that point. In ETW I never built schools since the countries you take over will always have at least one.
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Okay /twwg/ I'm gonna need you to post all the Druchii and all the QT Vampires you got whilst answering me these three questions.

1. Are Swordsmen, Spearmen, or Spearmen with Shields able to hold their weight later game, and what make better line Infantry.

2. Is running a heavy VC LL or Vamp Lord army with monsters and Grave Guard supported by a secondary Necromancer trash army (zombos and skellos) the way to play?

3. Why the fuck won't these Dawi cunts anywhere fucking Confederate with me.
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>>147757940
>You've already won the game at that point.
Are you serious?
That's pretty boring.
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>>147757571
Word.
Leibniz is based.

Mechanically, Empire is iredeemably fucked FUCKING SINGLE REGION FRANCE, but it'll always be my favourite TW. I wasn't prepared for the nostalgia this has triggered.

Go spearhead Prussia's break for the West Indies, friend.
Godspeed
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I know it's unlikely but it'd be cool if Tomb King skeleton units got different animations to their vampire equivalents after they're announced of course
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Any DLC news?

I am getting so bored of waiting for content.

How is beginning of the end times? I fancy a Tomb Kangs playthrough.
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>>147758127
You're being meme'd, friend. Empire is what you make it. Let your autism run wild and it won't disappoint.
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>>147758223
Thinking about re-installing Napoopan, but I miss Empire's sense of scale of freedom to do what I want, it's so focused.
also prussia kinda sucked in the napoleonic wars so it wont satisfy my rampant germanbooism
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>>147757947
1. In Warhammer the most effective way to play is to mass low tier units. When I play empire I like to have a line of cheap units hold the enemy with support units doing most of the killing, but if you are expecting you line to over power the enemy line you'll need to mass great swords. I also like to skill my generals with honest steel to really buff low tier units.

2. Doesn't matter, just do what you think is more fun.

3. AI wont confederate unless you have an adjacent territory, then just wait till they army gets smashed by another AI and they'll want to join your empire. You can even make them pay 3k if all their armies are totally wiped out.
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>>147758513
historically germans were terrible at war.
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>>147712894
BLESS ME FATHER
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>>147758127
All total war games are like this. You reach a tipping point where no single power can contest you then the rest of the campaign is just auto resolved map painting, paradox style; except the campaign is extremely shallow compared to paradox. It is usually more fun to set ridiculous goals for yourself, like colonizing north america with poland.
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>>147758223

>Napoopan
>Spain is one province
>Gibraltar is a province
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>>147758759
>>>/gsg/
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>>147758759
Paradox got boring to me sadly.
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>playing dwarfs VH
>chaos has destroyed all of the empire and it's factions
>take all the eastern dwarfen holds
>archaon the everchosen arrives

how fucked am I?
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Win10 shitter back again, does anyone know if Shogun 2 is like RTW in how it doesn't like dual cores? What I mean is if I set affinity for the first CPU would it stop or nearly eliminate post-battle crashes?
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So what UNIT is actually the strongest lore/tabletop wise? Is it one of the races we haven't seen in the game so far?
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>>147760117
shogun 2 is fine on multicore as far as I know
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>>147759893

Just use the mountains and the underway to pick them off.
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>>147760128
High Elf Phoenix Guard aren't the number one unit overall but they are considered to be one of (if not the) best infantry units in the game.
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>>147758897
Better than Empire though
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>>147760486
any tips on how to use the underway?

haven't got my head from the mechanics
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>>147760128
Lorewise, probably some Greater Daemon or a fully decked out High Elf Lord on Dragon.
On the Tabletop there are several way to create a Deathstar unit that are nigh impossible to take down. They once published rules for the White Dwarf (The mascot of gW's magazine), which is pretty much unkillable.
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>>147712894
late roll
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>>147760606
Wut? By whom?
They don't have the killing power of the other HE elite infantry and the only thing they got going for them is their ward save, which only really pays off against high strength, low attack number enemies.
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>>147760868
I'm just parroting what I've seen pop up in discussions.
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Why are FotS naval battles so comfy /twg/?
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>>147760673
Yeah that's great and all but can any of those make a dent on an abrams?
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>>147761471

Two fleets with Ironclads are max comfy.
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>>147761563
The Greater Daemons and accomplished mages easily.
Not sure about the dragon.
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>>147761471
>>147761663
What the fuck does comfy even mean anymore you stupid fucks? It used to have a meaning, not anymore.
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>>147761839

It means "Thing I Like," just like bait means "Thing I Don't Like"
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>>147761825
>some old man dressed in a funny dress armed with a stick
>able to do anything to an abrams

nice joke
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>>147761839
>>147761974

I've always associated it with "relaxing" and "aesthetic".
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>>147762080
>sitting on a claustrophobic ship which is extremely prone to exploding, torpedo shots hot as FUCK under the deck and esp in the engine room where horrible deaths await is comfy
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>>147761990
You're lucky I don't have all the pics of ded abrahamses Bob, you'll have to shout MONKEY MODELS at someone else
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>>147762285

It's a good thing I have to feelings for the men I spend in my war.
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>>147762463
>ded abrams

Doesn't exist. The ones the sandniggers lost don't count.
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>>147762554
>The ones the sandniggers lost don't count.

Every time.
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>>147762554
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>>147762846
Probably not USMC and definite not ded from enemy fire.
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>>147762846
what did they drop a nuke on it?

A thousand rpgs wouldn't do that to an abrams
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>>147762846
>>147762907
>>147763049


>Abandoned Abrams were purposely destroyed by friendly fire to prevent recovery of vehicle or technology.
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So what's more efficient, both in cost and efficacy?
Newest generation Leopard vs. Abrams?
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>>147763049
>>147762907
>>147763163

>Abramsfags in denial
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>>147763049
Yeah, WMDs in Iraq were never found because they all had been used in a single day to inflict a mobility kill on a single abrams tank, which was then destroyed by its own crew from the inside making perfect use of the blowout panels. Please note that the abrams in question was just a monkey model though.
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Got Shogun 2 on sale along with Rome 2, currently loving them both. I know that the thread is pretty focused on Warhammer right now, but does anyone have some advice on playing the Otomo in Shogun 2? It seems like matchlocks aren't good for anything except defending castles (which they are admittedly amazing at).
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>>147763272
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>>147763337
Try uninstalling and buy warhammer instead.
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>>147763241
None of them can even be considered close to cost efficient, especially because they were never tested in what was supposed to be their main battlefield.
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>>147762907
>>147763049
>>147763163
After a google image search, this one was one of two tanks shot by an Iraqi recoiless rifle. It was fully operation but the ammo box was struck so the ammunition started smoking. The crew evacuated and called in an airstrike on their own tank to detonate the ammunition. No marines were killed, two were injured
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>>147763241
How is this a question? The Abrams would beat anything on land easy.
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>>147763337
You could use two in your army, one on each flank and move them around to shoot into the enemies back once the lines has clashed. Will basically always start a chain rout, but they're always very vulnerable to enemy archers and cav, so they're not really worth it for the most part.
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>>147763337
go uesuigi bow monks you fucking idiot
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>>147763710
Britain says hi.
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>>147763670
>only f-killed
>abrams is invincible to land forces so have to call in the chairforce to actually destroy it

Not that the crew would have come to any harm even if they stayed in the tank while the ammunition exploded.
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>>147763991
challenger 2 is a piece of shit
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>>147763991
I'm not convinced that anything the MoD has bought in the last 20-30 years has been cost effective, but I suppose that goes for a lot of military equipment
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>>147763710
>>147763991
a war between two evenly matched powers would be like WW2 where the tank that shot first wins over 90% of the time

you tank fags make me sick
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>>147764292
Excuse me but that's bullshit because nothing can penetrate the frontal armor of an abrams.
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>>147764417
Prove it.
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>>147764417
Not even DU penetrator from other Abrams?

Also, for what? Just drop a Kh-29 from top up attack
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>>147764714
0 losses from enemy fire
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>>147763337
Move nanban trade port to the other starting city so you can get accuracy upgrades for your matchlocks. Rush tericos as they'll be the core of your army

Matchlocks are fantastic for defending walls. They keep shooting until someone actually manages to climb up so don't pull them off the walls too fast. If you have enough troops put the matchlocks in the walls and your foot soldiers outside the walls beneath them, you'll slaughter incoming armies. Play defensively at the beginning, in field battles keep them on the flanks, or if you have a hill advantage put them at the top and your infantry at the bottom so they can shoot over.

It helps to bring a cannon, this usually forces the enemy to attack you meaning you can set up some pretty good defensive positions and always be the defender.

You can actually kick a lot of ass with just tericos and some kiting. Have some retreat and then have others keep shooting and then retreat the shooting ones and cover them with the guys that just finished retreating, it's a lot of micro but it works. Tericos are pretty good in melee so if you take down enough of a unit with musket fire you should be able to beat them in melee.

Basically play defensive, keep a fleet in the straight so the mainland can't attack, then focus on conquering your island. Once that island is conquered move inland or to the other smaller island, whatever works for you.

Eventually you'll have gold accuracy tericos and shotgun cav and you'll steamroll the AI
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>>147764417
>actually believing this

>>147765016
>only tried in combat against surplus Cold War weapons developed in the 50s and early 60s
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>>147763991

Brit here.

Our army fucking sucks. We're in a socialist hell hole atm. Our MoD is full of incompetent armchair general fucks and our Parliament are full of hippie socialists who can't into war.

We're supposedly the 6th military power in the world yet goat fucking sand niggers are too much for us to handle.
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>>147763991
>rifled gun

hahahahaha

no
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>>147765016
And that proves what exactly? The Leopard 2, Challenger 2, Leclerc etc. have all sustained zero losses from enemy fire, and that's because the toughest opponent they've gonet up against are monkey model T-72s.

Also, permanent losses. A fair few Abrams have been mission killed then repaired because we were in control of the area were they were taken out in.

>>147765260
>We're in a socialist hell hole atm

And that is a bad thing because...?
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>>147765260
you underestimate how shit the rest of the world's army is. Having aircraft carriers in reserve alone makes you a top ten military power
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>>147765529
None of them have seen as much combat as a single abrams.
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So... how about that Total War: Empire?
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>>147765695
Okay I give up, you're fucking hopeless.
>>
FINALLY CA HAVE ANNOUNCED THE NEXT DLC
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>>147765698
remove trip and talk about tanks
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>>147765695
Are you one of those people who believe the Tiger tank was an invincible peace of machinery?
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>>147765803
Don't play with my emotions like this
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>>147765529

>And that is a bad thing because...?

Because socialism destroys countries you commie fuck.
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>>147766102
Unless it is national.
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Why are you degenerates talking about fucking tanks?
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>>147765995
Im sorry anon , im just hurt it is taking so long :'(

I hope we hear something by monday.

They have all these plans, FLC, lord packs, race packs, campaign packs, and 2 more titles. What the hell are they doing to take so long.
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>>147766187

>national socialism
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>people calling the United Kingdom, one of the most eminent supporters of international free trade, less than 6 million people in unions and legalised private property a Socialist state
Tonight is the night I fucking kill myself
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>>147766536
It is a socialist state though.
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>>147766536

It's pretty damn socialist mate.
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>>147766536
The second most popular party is part of the coalition Party of European Socialists

>no, no, it's social democracy
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>>147766584
>>147766964
Socialism is an economic system wherein the means of production are NOT privately owned.

That's the definition of socialism.

The UK has a very expansive welfare system, which is what I suppose most people would call socialist, when in fact it's just social democracy.

>>147767335
Are you, as an individual, allowed to own a factory and employ workers?
Yes?
Not socialism.
The state giving your uneducated chavs money doesn't make your country socialist.
Labour's affiliation with a coalition that is in and of itself social democratic doesn't make your country socialist just because they call themselves that.
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>>147764749
Barely, you need a lot munition to kill Abrams.

Source: guy who read about disabled kills on abrams and the shitstorm that occurs to deny any potential assets to the enemy
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>>147767593
>labour party wants to nationalize industries
>still not socialist guys!
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>>147767593
I think you might have socialism and communism confused there, mate.
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>>147768182
Exactly.
It's STILL not socialist.
And it won't be. Labour is fucked after its recent divide. God bless ol Jeremy.

>>147768291
Communism is a very specific sub-category of socialism.
But no, socialism just that. There are hundreds if not thousands of specific socialist, and communist, theories that are more specific though, like Marxism or Trostkyism.
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>>147768520
splitting hairs
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>>147763337
Make an enormous spear wall of yari ashigaru, and while the enemy is trying to get through them move your matchlocks from the flanks around the battle line, where you can line up aimed at the enemies back
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>>147768681
I suppose it is if you can't be assed about philosophy or political science.

Don't get me wrong lads, I'm a die hard capitalist, just find Socialist theory fascinating.
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Maybe he is not evil, and just wants to find friends.
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>>147768520
>Communism is a very specific sub-category of socialism.
>But no, socialism just that. There are hundreds if not thousands of specific socialist, and communist, theories that are more specific though, like Marxism or Trostkyism.


This line of thinking right there is what leads to morons saying crap like "muh true communism was never tried".
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>>147768903
So what are Archaon's diplomacy lines for a friendly greeting?
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>>147712894
Roll for chaos
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>>147769285
>This line of thinking right there is what leads to morons saying crap like "muh true communism was never tried".
They're morons because they think there's anything like "true communism".

And it doesn't matter if it was tried or not, socialism, in the absence of a free market, is already theoretically imperfect to the degree that trying it would be immoral.

You don't need history to BTFO commufags or socialists or muh left-wing anarchism, you can point out the obvious flaws in their theory and reduce them to shitty arguments from emotion about MUH HUMANITY
>>
oh shit I thought I clicked on /twg/ but apparently I accidentally clicked on /int/

my bad
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>>147769445
[...]
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>>147769821
warhammer got too old too fast. We can't role play because we only have five factions
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>>147769593
Tell me what's wrong with socialism.

Also, for anybody who says that socialism can't work, I redirect you to Barcelona circa 1937.
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>>147770058
>Also, for anybody who says that socialism can work, I redirect you to Venezuela circa right now.
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If CA doesnt release new content in a week i will fucking shoot myself
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>>147770058
socialism is fine on small scale populations that have a unified culture, history, and sense of community

tensions between demographics, centralization of management, and the nature of power will always prevent it from working on a national scale however
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Talking real life politics on the internet never really seems to be a worthwhile endeavor. At least shitpost about waifus or something while we wait for content.
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>>147770543
You obviously aren't praising hard enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c
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>>147770858
Where else would you talk about politics? In real life? Never
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>>147770058
It works under the assumption that all humans are hard working and ethical. This is obviously not the case, and the draw backs are amplified when a socialist society is also letting uncivilized scum flood into their country. The only thing that ties the left together is their opposition against the right, if there was no right the left would eat itself because it is so full of contradictions.

Socialism works great in closed borders nordic european countries for example.

I wouldn't even have to be explaining this on a chinese image board if schools taught that humans are raised, not born. The everyone is equal crap is destroying western civilization.
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Can you fucking britshits take your discussion about socialism to the appropriate board?
Nobody gives a flying fuck.
Same goes for the americans and their shitboxes.
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>>147771181
Thats the best because you can literally see how bad some people shit themselves over being in the presence of someone with a different opinion.

>>147771561
>implying its not the hisfags upset no one wants to talk about hisgames
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>>147771853
We were literally discussing shogun 2 and Napoleon and Empire right before the socialism posts.
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>>147771853
truth
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>>147770058
We can't know if the CNT-FAI would have worked out in the long run, seeing how they had to fight a war and were violently repressed upon losing that war. Most systems can work for a short amount of time.

Any large scale economy like ours cannot function without the free market.
The free market is responsible for allocating resources by supply and demand, if someone is able to produce more or better cars than others, he will generally sell more cars and thus be able to make more cars, increasing his market share, ensuring the valuable, limited resources of the planet go to the entity that best uses them for what the population demands.

Different socialist theories have set up alternative structures for resource allocation and public demand perception.
Most of them however utilise Marx' Labour Theory of Value. I'll spare you the fucking details, basically he postulates that the value of a given thing, and thereby how many resources should be available for its production and involved logistics, should be determined by how much "labour" you need to make them, and how important they are to society.

Problem is, in praxis, this has to be done in a centralised manner, like a Union Council, that decides, effectively arbitrarily, how much ANYTHING is worth. This is obviously a bad idea, given how humans are not omniscient, will never have all necessary data or even necessarily the cognitive abilities to make good enough use of all data, should they have it. They will make mistakes, and those mistakes will accumulate.
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>>147772506
cont.

Mistakes in resource allocation in a world as highly populated and generally very efficient as ours would lead to vast losses in industrial, agricultural, logistical, scientific efficiency across the board. Some sectors might see an increase in efficiency if they get focused on heavily, such as military research and industry for USSR during its height, but overall your economy will waste a lot of resources and be less efficient.
This means the value of essentially everything will rise, while the national economy loses out on potential growth or may actually lose power, which in turn means a significant loss of quality of life.

The deadly bit however, is the decrease in agricultural and logistical efficiency, which, depending on how large your nation is, may very well lead to wide spread hunger or even mass starvation, which would only increase if your country imported food prior to the revolution.

So basically, if you lead a revolution, or evolution, toward a socialist state that was based on any of most of the common socialist theories, you'd be able to choose between dead people or people who wanna be dead.
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>>147772208
And before that was consistent yet sporadic "Warhammer ruined the general" shitposts, then not so far later we get this useless shit. Think about it no fantasy fag cares about political shit enough to debate it.
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Is TW: Marx the next historical title?

It would cover only the 1848 revolutions
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>>147770986
Throat rapping is cool

Thanks for this
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>>147772889
The freer the market the freer the people
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>>147770986
This is so offensive. If there was a rap video of a white guy dressed like a nazi jewtube would take it down. Bad!
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>>147772889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9y_fXVeZeE

LET THE SHITPOSTING COMMENCE
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>>147772780
Best girl.
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>>147772889
>literally nothing but krauts

Nein.
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>>147772780
>consistent

It was one post. There's no 'conspiracy' to destroy your general. Off-topic posting is inevitable, especially in this veritable drought of game content.
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>>147772889
they'll just update wamham forever
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>>147770986
Poor mongols never recovered after cyka blyat's finally got their shit together and crushed them. Now there are 4th world cargo cultists, "we wuz genghis n shit".
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>>147773987
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>>147774206
>crushed them
>implying they didnt just harness them and unleash their souless chink mass raping powers on german civilians
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>don't want to pay for the blood DLC
>really want the blood DLC

I feel like such a fucking sheep
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>Still no announcement on wood elves
Come on CA
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>>147712894
Time to roll
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>>147774101
Albion DLC when?
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>>147774268
>literally confined to HRE territory
>not nothing but krauts

que?
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>>147774206
>not "we was khanz"/"we wuz chinggis"
one job, anon
>4th world cargo cultists
doppelkek
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>>147772889
A post WW1 game focusing on the Russian Civil War with the same title wouldn't be bad

>>147774512
Are you retarded? All of Europe and most of S America went up in flames
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>>147772889
Nigga

Those were liberal revolutions

kill yourself
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>>147774743
>Those were jewish revolutions

fixed :-DD
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>>147774654
>Are you retarded? All of Europe and most of S America went up in flames

Yeah, sure looks like all of Europe and not just HRE/Austria.
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>>147774371
>mass raping
You mean "mass liberating"?
>>147774554
Shit, I fuck up.
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>>147726213
I don't know how you can say this. Maybe my playstyle is just suited to the line infantry games, but I consider their battles to be ridiculously easier than any other game in the series. In NTW with a full stack I can easily take 4 enemy stacks.
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>>147774743
not all of them. The proletariat rose in accordance with Marx and was crushed like the pathetic roaches they are
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>>147774839
>the Völkish masses of the nations of Europe revolting against imposed rule by unqualified autocrats, attempting to unite their various nations into a single, powerful state that gives liberty to its people and an iron fist to all who would take it from them
>jewish
memed
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>>147774512
>>147774934
>what is Hungary
>what is First Schleswig War
>what is the Second French Republic
>what is fucking all of Italy

weak
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>>147774934
>HRE, Austria, Poland, Russia, Turkish Europe, France, Italy, Denmark, S America

could easily make a campaign
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>>147774968
Because the Soviet Union was the only country that committed atrocities in WW2, unlike the Germans who only wanted to exterminate the Slavic population and wiped over 9,000 villages off the map.
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>>147774934
>HRE
>in 1848

Someone sure knows their history :^)
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>>147774418
>webm
Damnit anon, now I'm sad...
Even though it doesn't stick.
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>hisfags retaking twg

the dark ages have returned
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I wish TW games divided your saves by categorising them under their respective games. That would be nice.

e.g.
VC 1 > Save 1, 2 ,3
Dorfs 1 > Save 1, 2, 3, 4
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>>147775335
Faster than writing "the dozens of little germanies". Not like anything changed with the dissolution of the HRE for any of the princedoms. The only first actual change happened with the Franco-Prussian war.
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>>147775494
WITH ME BROTHERS ADVANCE
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>>147775303
Absolutely.
Russians are evil, but Germs, oh my god, 3rd time in 100 years trying to conquer the world, fucking monsters, making those grimdark game universes to look like kiddies games.
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>>147775187
>campaign that spans less than a year

Retarded much?
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>>147775545
>Faster than writing "the dozens of little germanies".
It's called the German Confederation.

>Not like anything changed with the dissolution of the HRE for any of the princedoms. The only first actual change happened with the Franco-Prussian war.
Except that Napoleon redrew the map and hundreds of realms ceased to exist forever, and after he was donezo, half of what remained of them was given to Prussia.

sheesh boi read a book
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How hard is it to change model scales?

Like if I wanted to make a Giant Vampire waifu
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>>147775718
So are they any less krauts because of that? How about you read a book before you start lecturing people you mong.
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>>147775757
There were less Kraut states, or "little germanies" as you called them, "you mong"
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>>147775757
change 1 number
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>>147775674
Eh, scope has never been a problem for them. Fall of the Samurai is one of the best TW campaigns, but in real life it lasted less than 2 years and had less than 10 thousand casualties. That'd be like 2 or 3 battles in the game.
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So the question is TW:
>Continue WRE game
>Start a new LotR mod campaign
>Start a new faction in WHTW (probably orcs or VC)
Wat do?
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>>147776113
Let RNG decide

0-3 WRE
4-6 LOTR
7-9 TWW

lets see what you do
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>>147775718
>Except that Napoleon redrew the map and hundreds of realms ceased to exist forever, and after he was donezo, half of what remained of them was given to Prussia.

None of which stopped german mindset of Kleinstaaterei in any way, so how does that matter again? Oh wait, it doesn't, you're just arguing for arguments sake.

>>147775998
Yet they still saw themselves as primarily their princedom, before anything else. The point remains, a 1848 revolution TW would primarly play in Germany and Austria, aka literally nothing but krauts.
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>>147776265
Roll it is
Oh dice gods, hear my prayers and grant me a fulfilling game
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>>147775494
TACTICAL FORMATION
LITTLE BY LITTLE WE'RE THINNING THE SWARM
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>>147776704
>>147775553
FIND YOUR STRENGTH BROTHERS
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>>147731724
was this made as a joke? Please tell me it was.
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>>147777819
Are you vnderstanding strategy yet anon?
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The Great War: Total War when?

MG's have to be deployed and display FoF
riflemen are spaced out more like skirmish formation in NTW
smgs have smaller FoF when running but wreck shit up close
toggle melee
can still use cav
map is way larger and all units have more men and artillery is pretty much untouchable
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Really? This is what you people get up to when CA isn't dangling DLC in front of your? I doubt your parents/parole officers/handlers let you out of the house. With the way you carry on you're a greater danger to yourself than others!

There's only so much autism I can take, I'm outie. /gsg/ was looking pretty good last I checked, so I think I'll head over there. You people though, you stay here. For your own good.
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G O B L I N S
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>>147778749
It is nightGOBLINS
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>>147778632
>/gsg/ is less autistic than this place
Thanks for the laughs every time you post this, I really appreciate them.
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>>147778632
wtf i hate shinoa now
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>>147778632
>/gsg/ less autistic
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>>147778632
>/gsg/

you deserve the (you)
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The Varghiest and Varghulf use the same skeleton, right? They both have the same walking animations.

As such, shouldn't it be possible to make Varghulfs perform a flying animation?
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>>147778383
An interesting mechanic for artillery could be spotters for heavy artillery. I don't know the technological specifics but you could have a recon unit that allows you to fire the heavy guns that when killed silences the guns. There would also be lighter field guns with normal canon mechanics
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>>147778632
>/gsg/ was looking pretty good
you mean /mbg/
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I wish steam didnt take such shit screenshots
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>>147737229
It doesn't matter, they're all the same.
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>>147734976
That artist is great. Does he do a lot of Warhammer art?
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>>147782501
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Tried installing Imperial Splendour, but it just doesnt boot up once I press Start.
Empire and IP launcher both dont work, anybody experience with the mod?
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>>147782501
>>147782721
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>>147782721
This was a fun mission

I've only ever been ambushed once outside of it, I really thought it was a shame it ended so fast however.
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>mfw its RATTLE OCLOCK
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name a meme bigger than ancient empires
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>>147714018
bump.
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>>147740781

skeletons also don't have muscles and tendons, and yet they can still pick up a sword and swing it.

and you have a problem with EYES?
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>>147740781
because of these dudes. Not living, not dead. Then they serve under vampires, also neither living or dead. Theres some lore behind undead without their eyes having a "soul" eye. Picture the binded soul of the person who used to own the bones kind of inhabiting the calcium motocade. They dont have eyes, they have a soul with eyes.
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>>147739321
>the new game is talked about
really?
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Post other total war games you dicknorbos

all this warshitter and its 10 different looking units is getting annoying. I get its like shogun 2 again; pretty looking with no tactics, but its getting old amigos

and dont tell me to start a discussion about it because nothing will start at all because the "uninstall and get le warhamz ;-)" meme
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>>147729458
>>147732025
Not written by the original Radious pastabro.

You can tell because these sound like tryhard shit and the original two pastas are fucking outstanding.
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>>147778383
>sit in trenches and unchanging lines:total war

wow... so interesting..
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>>147785192
>not wanting the warfare before and after they got bored of trenches
>not wanting Battlememe 1
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>>147785192
The First World War was more than just the Western Front, anon. The war in the East was actually characterized by a lot of maneuver and shifting lines of battle.
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>>147785352
The only reason why g
Germany lost was because of incompetent allies, food and supply shortages and juden bolshelviks. If not the war could've continued indefinitely.
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>>147785551
>the war could've continued indefinitely

Read a book. This war literally changed society as we know it because the government and economy couldn't handle the lose of life
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Can someone please tell me something
Why have I not been playing vampire counts this whole time
Raise dead spell is so much fun
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>>147785715
>ahmed
>there is spear in you

>I aint even mad
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30v30 on the campaign is the shit.
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>>147786164
>Oh is that a unattended missile unit?
>ENJOY YOUR ZOMBIES
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>>147786641
Is there a mod that spaces unit cards better yet?

I hate large battles because of how you can't see shit on your cards.
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>>147786641
>Using unshielded spearmen
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>>147787436
Yeah shields are pretty much mandatory against Chaos, their missile superiority is ridiculous
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>>147787954
Are you being sassy, young man?
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>>147787954
You do know that shielded spears are better in every way but cost, right? Not just the shield.
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>>147787954
>he doesn't read the stats
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>>147775757

I need this.
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>>147787134
this is one of the reason i stick at 30 among some others

>>147787436
>>147788538
shielded are not that much better and in the early game use it to skimp cost a bit
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>>147784306
yeah but they can only swing a sword due to magic. Why is logic so hard for you?
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>>147788836
>sacrificing +6 melee defense and missile resistance for 50 coins

How many spearmen do you build for this to be worth it?
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>>147789321
50 recruit and 30 upkeep

Got 2 30stacks and a random group so about 10 spears saves 300 gold a turn which isn't much but over a couple dozen turns itll add up, nor do I rely on them to do much, usually eating charges from trolls
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I just accidentally saved over my 100 turn chaos game. Is there a way to get it back?
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>>147782305
trve

/mbg/ is consistently the greatest general
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>spend 30 minutes turtling as VCs, build a few stacks
>ready to smash empire and dorfs
>chaos kicks down the door, makes a b-line straight past me and razes every human city, then fucks off to Brettonia

t-thanks chaos bros
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What unit size should I use? from a good gameplay perspective. (keeping magic in mind)
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>>147795138
Well that sucks... but at least they didn't fuck you too.
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>>147795585
Large is a good middle ground, magic is not completely useless and armies still look kinda big
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>>147795891
Does magic really not scale at all with unit sizes? That's hilarious.
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>>147796076

You'll have to use a mod or something if you want stronger magic at Ultra sizes.
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>>147796076
yep, CA does it again.
buy blood DLC only 2.99 pls
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>>147796305
I guess it doesn't matter that much if I'm playing dorfs ehhehehe.
They've already cucked me out of 4k by not having scaling UI they're not gonna take away my massive units either.
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Comments on minor faction unlockers say the mod is broken, any versions of this mod that work?
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>>147793270
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=702684894 Pretty well made mod.
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How do I make Attila-sama like me?
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>>147797362
Be at war with everybody
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jesus tapdancing christ that was close

didn't bring any shitty greenskin archers and i get this bullshit
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>>147713102
time to get an 1060

>>147713259
go fuck yourself
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>>147760606
That is a very poorly-designed sword.
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>>147798073
Ur poorly designed, nerd.
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>>147798391
Don't make me fuck you in the ass
>>
What other fictional settings would translate well to Total War?

Not so fast, GoT-fags!
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>>147798596
Calradia
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>>147798596
Warcraft.
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>>147798596
Armageddon wars in 40k
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>>147798596
game of thrones
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>>147798596
after playing WarHam I want more stuff where the armies are significantly different from each other not just "oh these guys have fusiliers and these other guys have an organ gun"
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Are there ANY good orc mods?
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Which was the first recorded gun murder?

like not in war but in civilian life
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>>147798532
Don't encourage me anon~
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>>147760606
Get BTFO by Black Orc Destroyes in BotET mod.
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>>147798596
LOTR

Age of Mythology
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>>147799123
probably some chinaman
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>>147788836
Are empire captains worth it in battle?
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>>147799247
did chinks have guns before europe? I thought they only had rockets and grenades
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>>147799230
>Age of Mythology
Good lord I came
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>>147799135
I'll encourage you all i want
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>>147799454
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_firearm

china is the simpsons
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>>147799514
Basically Rome/Rome 2 but with warhammer monster units.

would be amazingly fun tbqh.

They should add a Roman faction aswell though. Atlantis was cool but I want muh legions
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>>147799591
>The fire lance (simplified Chinese: 火枪; traditional Chinese: 火槍; pinyin: huǒ qiāng) or fire spear was one of the first gunpowder weapons in the world. Most fire lances are a spear with one or more flamethrowers attached.
Flamethrower spears

fuck, Chinese history is so fucking cool.

thanks for educating me, anon
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>>147798596
Iron Kingdoms
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>>147799783
>These short-ranged, one-shot, disposable weapons were often held in racks on city walls and gave Chinese defenders a tremendous tactical and psychological advantage when fired in volleys
Sounds like early panzerfaust designed to take out horsefuckers.
That's awesome!
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>>147799783
History is cool in general senpai, it's always fun to research stuff that they don't usually teach you in school.
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>>147799556
Okay! what's your steam name then, anon? for coop ofc
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ERPer fags get the fuck out, OUT
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>>147799928
true that.

>it was initially used as a hand-to-hand weapon with the gunpowder shot designed to give the wielder an edge in close-quarter combat.
can't believe the first gunpowder weapons were developed for melee combat
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>>147800103
They were inaccurate as fuck so it's pretty believable
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>>147799591
>>147799783
Serious question, is there any good reason for there to be no china total war? I only vaguely know the history.
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>>147800056
I'm not going to blow my cover for a buttslut

Tempting though
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>>147800273
probably not that marketable to focus on one country and you'd have to make it a fantasy dream match thing where you're compressing a few thousand years into happening all at once
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>>147800273
Dragon blade total war when?
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>>147800273
Lack of profitability/consumer interest. Literally the best reason.
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>>147800273
I believe CA's unofficial reason is sales.

Japan sells because of samurai, ninjas and Bushido and the other games sell because western history is popular.

Chinese, not so much. altough I'm sure they'd make a profit on it they wouldn't get as many people hyped as for Medieval 3 or Empire/Victoria or the Roman era
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>>147800273
because the chink army is a joke
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>>147800329
Really though I need people to play coop with.
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>>147800410
>since the 17th century
>not a single battle shown before the 19th century
What?
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>>147800502
Cause they're fighting themselves before, not having the capability to expand beyond their little continent.
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>>147800410
have to admit China had balls going up against the allies after their victory in WW2
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>>147800532
This is bait. Anyone who responds to it will be as stupid as the person who posted it.
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>>147800410
Victoria TW when?

I just want to shit on barbarians with superior western forces
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>>147800407
>tfw will have to wait a long time before crusading some fools
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>>147800410
I'm talking about ancient china but goddamn how do they manage to be so shit?

>>147800341
>>147800367
>>147800372
>>147800407
Thanks for the good replies, friends.
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>>147800579
You know what's more impressive? Defeating a victor of the great war and considered to be the greatest military power at the time in a mere 6 weeks.
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>>147800646
Anyone (including chinks) would look impressive slaughtering chinks, they're terrible at waging war

>b-but muh sun tzu
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>>147800646

Well, problably the same way the Soviets got their ass raped by Finland in the winter war: shitty leadership and lack of training.
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>>147800410
>>147800646
>>147800579
tfw Chinks forgot their own advice
>Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Sun Tzu

>>147800756
didn't say China was impressive, I said they had balls.

it was an idiotic move to go up against the allies after their huge military advantage so soon after WW2.

although they did succeed in splitting up Korea for whatever that's worth.
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Why couldn't the Chinese nip the horsefucker menace in the bud?
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>>147801040
Bullshit, the soviets got fucked due to a combination of outdated command and tactics and forested terrain.
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>>147801231
Because horsefuckers were nipping them
Hell they tried to attack Nippon but nips got hella lucky with weather
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>>147801231
>ever defeating horsearchers pre gunpowder era
best romans could do was an avarage victory
what's that battle called where WRE+Goths fought Attila kinda won and then said fuck it and left after inflicting some casualties instead of trying to finish the fucker off?
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>>147801315
>luck
>implying it wasn't Izanagi himself protecting the pure nihonjin
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>>147801315
I wonder what would've happened, was the time period before or during the shogunate so they had at least their shit together
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>>147801268
>outdated command and tactics
So shitty leadership and lack of training
Stalin purged too many officers
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>>147801315
Two fucking times too.
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>>147801706
Unless I'm mistaken iirc the Japanese fucked them up in the few real fights they had.
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>>147801841
Well the Japanese shogunate armies did retreat fully from Korea after the ming armies intervened. Might remember that wrong though
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>>147801706
before Tokugava Shogunate but during the former iirc
Mongols would've won though.
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>>147802273
Those were two completely different wars.
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>>147802362
>a full on naval invasion on foreign land without logistic support
What could go wrong honestly
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Okay, so what about a super fantasy Asia total war with most of Asia and a lot of it's ancient/feudal history compressed into a single time period? would that make a good game? Discuss.
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>>147802452
horsefuckers weren't known for their seamanship...or intelligence for that matter.

still if they would've landed their army Japs would get rekt.
mongols were masters of land logistics.

I've even heard conspiracy theories that chink builders purposely built defective ships so the mongs would get rekt
I highly doubt the eternal chink would do that in favor of japan though
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>when you are sieged with no towers and still manage to lose
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>>147802554
anything CA makes is good :^)
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Franz has been pushed back to only Reikland, i've bought off the other counts or he failed to confederate them andI'm on the cusp of taking Altdorf. Then I notice this one fucking province is obstinately holding on and just spawned two stacks behind my front line.

Fucking Hobbits.
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>>147802630
>implying spooky bones and creepy ghoulies can stand up to proud men of the empire
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>>147802630
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>>147801841
Japs weren't really prepared for the first invasion and were heavily out of practice. Most of the fights they were just swarmed with huge numbers.
Second time they were more prepared and knew what to expect so naturally gave a much better account.
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>>147802731
I always feel bad when killing KF. Since in TWW he's new to the thronw you know they'll blame the empires downfall on him.
When actually theblame should be on those fucking elector cunts who refuse to confederate ffs!!!!!!
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>>147802554
Well they could just add cathay nippon and ind in warhammer if people want fantasy Asia so much
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>>147802554
Might be enjoyable, I guess.

>>147802889
Reiklander pls.
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>>147802918
I'm pretty sure literally nothing exists of them in the TT. So I'm not really certain that would work well.
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>when you think its all ogre but your lvl.1 lord carries the battle
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>>147802984
>Cahos is about to invade
>lets throw a bitch fit about who should be the emperor
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>>147803324
>Chaos about to invade
>elect a southern babby as emperor just because his dad was
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>>147803318
Khorne will bless him
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Can Tomb Kangz units speak or do they hiss like vamp cunt skelles?
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>>147803381
and that Southern "baby" happened to be the right choice
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>>147803381

t. Boris Todbringer


Shouldn't you be getting your eye gouged out by a smelly goatman?
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>>147803672

They communicate through rattling

But seriously the more sentient the higher level Tomb Kings characters are more equivalent to mummies and can speak probably
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What if Medieval 3 total war is never released and instead Total war: Sparta is next?
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>>147803836
that was the best picture you could grab off of google?
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>>147803836
desu i hope neither will ever get made
well, the sparta thing will 100% not be made
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>>147803787
Shouldn't you be waiting patiently in the shed while Valten wields your hammer?
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>>147803917
Wrath of Sparta exists
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>>147803903
Sorry Senpai, I'll do better next time!
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>>147802889

Its cool, he and Gelt spawned stacks and broke my siege. He tried to retake Wissenland but I pulled a decisive victory and have reclaimed it since.

I really need to wrap this up soon though, Chaos is starting to pick up momentum.
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>>147782501
I know I'm late, but you can set Steam to also save .png's
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When Beastmen become playable, how will the campaign even work once Chaos arrives?
Being allied with Archaon would be too op I guess, razing every single Empire region would be easy as fuck.
Automatically at war like all other factions wouldn't make much sense. Afaik Beastmen and WoC aren't friends but in a Storm of Chaos they would still fight for the Gark Gods, wouldn't they?
Just pure neutral and you can keep doing whatever you were doing before the Chaos invasion?

Also
>poo pee
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698364760&searchtext=Reikland

Does this mod work, the concept looks perfect
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>>147805418
Seems like they'd have to make whole new mechanics for it. Maybe the only way to replenish is to raid. Or perhaps open up forests for elves and beastmen and suffer attrition when not in forests?
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We should make a mod list for total war warhammer
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Any tips on how to build my lazy manlet lord?
Just sort of going for a general campaigning build with unit and campaign buffs but it's early days still.
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>>147806196
That's a pretty nice idea,
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>>147806196

Molay's Magic Mod..

...

...

Done
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>>147806289
Why are the Dawi LL's so fucking boring?
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Who here is waiting for the radious 100% total overhaul mod? It will replace all lore (bore more like) with his own handcrafted units! Including the rumored chosen chaos dragon riders!
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>>147806531
I honestly can't tell if you are joking or not.
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>can't change your capital in Attila
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>>147806591
This irritated the fuck out of me.
>make Rome great again
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>>147806531
is this an age of sigmar joke
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Is there a mod yet that fleshes out the Empire in regards to their different state troops and such?
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>>147806867
Yes and no. Would take too long for one post but there are mostly only ones that reskin other empire factions and one that makes it so any state troops recruited from other provinces match the province's colors.
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>>147806867
What different troops are there besides aesthetically different knightly orders?
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>>147806461
>Why are the Dawi so fucking boring?
ftfy
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>>147806995
Though it looks like that mod is dead, how sad.
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>>147806867
I'm yet to test if >>147806083 works, but isn't that what you're looking for?
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Just uninstalled all my TW games that use the Warscape engine and I'm not going to bother with any of them ever again. Seriously fuck Creative Assembly; they're fucking shit.
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>>147807047

Stirland Marksmen
Wissenland Artillery
Hochland Longrifles
Talabec Hunters
Altdorf Greatswords
Kislevite Hussars
Marienburg Mercenaries

Probably a bunch more but I can't remember off top of my head.
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>>147807268

Have you tried Rome1 and Med2?
(& if you did - how do they compare?)
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>>147807268
ok.
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>>147807268
Where do I subscribe to your blog?
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>>147807280
There aren't regiments equipped with Hochland long rifles, they're a special weapon for master engineers.
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>>147807268
Good for you
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>>147807538

Was master engineers the guys who could take pigeon bombs?
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>>147807280
try this one

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691664240&searchtext=

should have some of what you're looking for
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>>147807409
Yes. The diplomacy in R1 and M2 is generally worse than Empire and R2; though not as bad as Shogun 2's. I can't really comment on Napoleon too much though, as I got it refunded after a couple hours of play. Other than that I'd say R1 and M2 are generally better because while diplomacy is bad in all of them, land battles aren't quite as retarded, the campaign AI's artificial difficulty isn't quite as ridiculous as the later games and there's a better selection of mods. Albeit most of the M2 mods fuck something up in one way or another. Usually the timescale.
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>>147807619
Yes. Also mechanical horses.
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>>147807660
wowowowow, are you serious?
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How do you capture weaponry?
I did it once as Bretonnia, but never figured out how
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>>147807796
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>>147807518
>>147807467
Nice try, CA shills; but don't try to act like it isn't true.
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>>147807957
Honestly as much as I love medieval 2 I'd be lying if I said I could comfortably go back to it.
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>>147806196
better thicker smoke (needs an update)
Better shields collection from dontfearme22 (needs update)
Empire Expended-State troops officers
The Southern realms

Those are the one I use
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these cunts just shadowed me all the way to Nuln before a gathering of vargs jumped kholek when he sat down with his camp to rest a bit

otherwise archaon scattered the skaelings near the ruins of Averheim

can these fucks just leave me alone? I guess burning half of Norsca made them really vengeful
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>>147808047
Fair enough. I can't hang all that shit on Warscape games then turn around and act like the old ones are objectively better for everybody. I think I need a new hobby. I'm too old for this shit.
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>>147808087
Fyi both of those mods work fine. The needs an update thing is purely visual.
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>>147808234
Anything specific that makes you dislike it? Sometimes you really just need a break. In my eyes both have a host of problems and qualities but, I see warscape as a diamond in the rough that gets cleaner with each game.
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>>147808205

>he didn't genocide the Vargs and the Skaelings to extinction before invading the Empire

It serves him right! He trusted a Norscan!
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>>147808269
I don't know, When the shield ones are on, I have massive fps drops when watching forest battles
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>>147808554
That is.... awfully specific.
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>>147808376
I hate the diplomacy system that turns all AI factions into duplicitous cunts just because you're gaining an upper hand. The artificial difficulty in general is just something that I really hate. Sure, battles can be fun, even managing your faction on the campaign map has its fun, engaging side, too. Those two things always drew me back to them. But all the other shit always managed to overshadow the good points for me and I'd finally had enough.
>gets cleaner with each game
I found that it fluctuates a lot. New releases making a couple of steps forward in one facet of the game; while making a few backward ones in another. In any case, I've learned my lesson. Not going to buy Warhammer, never going to buy another CA title ever again at all. If I hadn't been given a free key for Arena I would never have bothered playing that, either. Although for Arena I do have to give credit where credit is due: Not as frustrating as the older releases, but only because it's strictly multiplayer.
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>>147808735
Hummm. I feel like warhammer is really the best warscape game by large margin. Also for warhammer there is a no "great power" negative modifier mod and on top of that you can set battle difficulty to normal (meaning no cheaty boosted enemies) while still having campaign on a higher difficulty.
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>>147808882
I don't think separating the campaign and battle difficulties makes that much of a difference desu. My problem was always more to do with the difficulty curve: In normal/medium, enemies are an absolute pushover; but upping the difficulty just one notch to hard and they suddenly cheat like crazy.
What do you think Warhammer has improved on compared to the previous titles. Or rather what do you think it does right/are its strong points?
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>>147809112
I can very much agree with the difficulty thing! I have fun setting some challenges/rules for myself to help deal with that, such as only letting AI declare wars on me (or even only letting them initiate diplomacy with me) and avoiding meta choices. I'm pretty tired so I can't really explain things in detail but generally speaking I think it streamlined some things that were a drag originally (and some that they shouldn't have) as well as enhanced some of the things that make total war great. A great thing about warhammer is that they removed the magic boosts that were in attila and rome 2 (like killing spree and such).
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>>147809383
I've tried doing things like that before, too. But I always ended up feeling like I was watering down the game. But the like I said, as soon as I upped the difficulty it just immediately became ridiculous.
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>>147803836
There is already the Wrath of Sparta DLC, back to 9fag with you.
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>>147809454
Sorry senpai, I wish I could make things fun for you again! I do hope you at least consider warhammer again one day..
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>>147809667
omg xD! Epic burn
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>>147809112
The best change is the uniqueness of the factions, I've only played Rome 1 and Atilla apart from Warhammer and both had fairly varied factions however Warhammer really did a great job in the look, feel, units, quests, buildings ect. From what I've seen shogun 2 was the worst in that regard
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>>147803836
desu after reading Thucydides, I'd love a game set in the Peloponnesian War

If CA could do something right for once
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>>147809794
Wants Sparta, who hasn't done shit, instead of Epirus.
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Its impossible to get Archaon if you pick another starting LL, because you dont have the option to slaughter captives
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>>147809794
>check out my new ebic 300 meme guys
>leonidas x_D
>SPAAAARTA HAHAaaa
>letz make gaem with no content that we alrdy have in DLc
>im shitposting mom!

Might aswell make a De Bello Gallico Total War right?
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>>147809729
>senpai

>>147810010
>desu

These new filters are great, thanks newmoot
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>>147809729
Nothing for you to be sorry for; you didn't fuck those games up. Some dickheads in the UK did. Oh yeah, that reminds me: The other part of TW that I hate would have to be the shitheads they recruit for their PR campaigns. Those cunts that tell you that huge leaps have been made in AI and campaign design; only to find out that you have most of the same problems that their games have had for over a decade now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxRZ2EIJG4s
>I do hope you at least consider warhammer
Nah, not going to happen. I said I'll never buy another CA title of any kind and I stand by that.
>>147810007
Honestly the lack of variation between factions was one of the things that bothered me least about Shogun 2.
>>147810010
>If CA could do something right for once
Yeah good luck with that.
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>>147810096
>new
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Am I the only one who enjoys marching my army in orderly fashion before a battle starts?
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>>147810247
I do it all the time.
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>>147810247

>there's only 2 face types for Empire
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>>147810096
Filter?
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>>147810326
Ive seen atleast 5 on first glance.
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>>147810092
Woah! Just relax buddy, we're all friends here.
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>>147810380
Try using nigspeak twitter abbreviations
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>>147810516
do it for me. I'm scared
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anyone notice a drop in performance after blood dlc?
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>>147810612
desu senpai baka

t.b.h. f.a.m. s.m.h.
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>>147810326
To be honest this is one of my biggest gripes with the game right now. I do hope CA either fix it (unlikely), let people import custom models or just add new units through updates and dlc so we've got more heads to swap around.
It's even worse with guys such as Greatswords and it also hugely restricts any mod that tries to make new units, since the only thing that's really being changed are the colours.
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>>147810635
am I retarded or blind? it looks the same to me.
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>>147810653
Also I do know that there is a cap on the number of head variants but on the Empire Troops they're all near identical except for the guy with the landsknect hat.
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>>147810635
>>147810774
Oh I get it now. I'm just retarded. The funny thing is... I had actually said senpai!
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>>147810172
It just works!
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>>147810653
why is the drummer on the frontline?
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>>147811202
He's ready to give his life for the Empire, the real question is... why aren't you?
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>mfw found out I could over cast the summon zombies spell
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>tfw getting agent spammed
Thing didn't change from MTW2 after all.
All these Goblin cunts are making me lose so much money
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>>147811392
what the fuck does that do
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>>147811554
Summon skellie warriors.
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Am I the only one that doesn't really getting agent spammed?

Am I doing something different to you guys?
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>>147811940
People are retardet and cant just kill the enemy agents. Only Dwarfs have shitty agents in that regard.
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>>147812135
I spend 3k every turn trying to assassinate.
FAILURE
FAILURE
FAILURE
CRITICAL FAILURE
FAILURE
SUCCESS
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>>147724282
I've literally never used Aqshy in-game. Why is it good against skirmishers?
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>kholek with a pair of shaggoth bodyguards

Who needs cavalry?
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>>147812191
using a wrong type of agent then
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>>147775757
Incredibly easy. 1 table, 1 cell.
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>>147800454
Ahh, at least a girl with sensible armo...

>(sees high heels)

Ah bugger, at least she can still do some trampling on me
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>>147812697
if it isn't high heels it's boob armor :(
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It would be nice if Beastmen have larger unit sizes on average to emphasize their horde/cannon fodder nature, especially for gors/ungors.

Like how Dwarf units are smaller by comparison.
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>>147812191
Use the hero type that specializes in assassination, never the others. By the end of the campaign I'll usually have 2-3 max level assassins that have killed a sizable double digit amount of enemy agents and lords each.
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>>147812476
> 1 table, 1 cell, 1 faggot

there - fixed it for ya
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>>147812891
That won't happen, since the generic cookie-cutter disposable mook zombie/skelly units didn't get significantly increased sizes. Hell, even goblins get, what, an extra forty bodies? Beastmen will have the same numbers as the Empire.
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Is it normal that attila runs worse than rome 2?
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>>147813430
rome 2 was playable for me, atilla however was not.
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>>147813502
Not that anon but Is it less demanding than shogun 2? I am considering getting it, Rome 2 it is.
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As the Empire, according to the fluff, who would have the best Knights, Greatswords, Handgunners, and whatever infantry for the line?
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>>147813731

Reikland.

Averland is pretty rich too so usually fields some of the heaviest troops.
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>>147813681
it's much more demanding

shogun was perfecting optimized in my opinion
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>>147813731

>Knights
Reikland

>Greatswords
Reikland

>Handgunners
Reikland

>Line infantry
Reikland
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>>147813731
hochland have the best handgunners
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>>147813731
Nuln ( Wissenland ) has the best artillery
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>>147812245
Fireball is incredibly long-range, cheap, and tears through models.
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>>147813898
>>147813731
The best Greatswords are from Carroburg in Middenland.

The best rifles are from Hochland.

The best Arty is from Nuln & Wissenland.

The best Knights are from Reikland.
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>>147814143

>other provinces of any worth other than providing tax revenue

good joke lad
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>>147814551

It's a shame we can't form a NATO like alliance with the Empire counties and using units from each province according to their strengths.
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>>147811940
Only time when I got "spammed" was when I was fighting with three minors close to each other at the same time, I just started building my own agents differently. You have all the tools you need.
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new thread?
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new
>>147815081
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>>147814968
Ok, here
>>147815108
>>147815108
>>147815108
Migrate lads
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>>147813885
Not that my machine struggled to run shogun 2, I presume it should be able to handle minimum settings of Rome.
Also thanks for the reply.
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>>147800273
CA under SEGA, SEGA from Japan. Chinese hate Japan for WW2 Genocide. Chances for them to sell it in China close to 0. The only good way in making TW:China Kingdoms is to implement game in time period where they were divided. Most of the ancient wars is the same Swords, Spears, Bows, Cavalry in China you will get Crossbows and maybe shitty cannons. So it will be different map and the same idea like in Shogun 2, which i honestly liked more than Rome 2, but it kinda retarded to spent time on this idea, when you can do something better and make a step up into future instead doing the same shit. I still wish to see with my eyes WW1 game from CA and i definetly wanna see FUCKING REALY GOOD AI INSTEAD OF THIS RETARDED CHEATING BASTARD.

Not Autistic AI > Good Siege AI > No more retarded Agent Spam from AI > No Cheating with Money/Morale > WW1 Game from CA > China > Medieval 3 > Attila 2 > Attila 1.
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>>147815092
>>147815124
Fucks' sake guys
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Do the Orcs have any dedicated Anti-Infantry infantry?
Big 'Uns are good against Large, Nigga Orcs are good against armor
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