/4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization & 4X Strategy General

>>147319567
Asking aging

I just went back to my Stellaris game after the latest patch, and HOLY SHIT what happened to energy? I went from +350 to +170, and now going to war with any of my fleets results in huge negatives. I dont have the most optimized empire, but I am totally stalled now. I am 20 worlds away from victory and idk if I can do this now.

>>147319567
>>147319591
rude faggot

>>147319558
>I just went back to my Stellaris game after the latest patch, and HOLY SHIT what happened to energy? I went from +350 to +170, and now going to war with any of my fleets results in huge negatives. I dont have the most optimized empire, but I am totally stalled now. I am 20 worlds away from victory and idk if I can do this now.
I have no idea where energy comes from to begin with. Doesn't really feel like it's adding up.

I think they did something with it, due to increase of number of planets one can control.

>>147319640
Didn't they raise maintenance costs
>playing cross-patches
baka

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>>147319728
they slashed the happiness bonus on resources because REASONS

it made lots of traits worthless. now anything past the bare minimum to not get resource malus is essentially effort wasted. endgame is even more dependent on pure energy planets now that you just need enough tech to get lances and generator tech to support the fleet upkeep.

>>147320319
>having the high ground means you win
I can think of four or five ways to beat someone camping on high ground without even trying.

>>147320762
their high ground game is obviously not up to par then

>>147320917
If their high ground game is too up to par that's a threat in and of itself - they can't get down easily.

>>147320968
high ground masters are only a danger to those whom attempt to push them off

>>147321279
>being this bad at war
Look at the world type and colonization sequence, it's his newest colony and the weakest one at that. I don't need to push him off the High ground. I just need to isolate him and let him starve if he intends to just hold the 'high ground'.

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Waifu

What are good ethics now? I've been doing Fanatic pacifist + spiritualist - but not being able to wage offensive wars and getting negative penalty for it trying to make federation kinda makes it useless.

>>147322002
t. bong
10/10 in Britain got meme'd to life

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On a hill now bastards.

>>147322206
>>147321390
>>147321279
>>147320968
>>147320917
>>147320762
>>147320319
Why the fuck did this stupid high ground meme even catch on? Was it from some meme movie scene or some shit? Like yes, it gives you a massive advantage, but not unconditionally and certainly has its counters.

>>147322002
>weak jawline from inbreeding
>unhealthy pasty skin
>no tits
>man hands

0/10

>>147322298
>Expecting people to break the first and second rules of memeclub to explain shit too you

newfag plz go

>>147322689
I just don't watch movies period.

>>147322727
You don't watch memes either, clearly

>>147322925
Seeing as it seems to have literally no basis...

In Kursk, the soviets had the high ground which is why the germans lost.

Never underestimate high ground.

Here's hoping that Obama is added as a civ leader for the US

>>147323145
Are they doing multiple leaders again? It seemed like it from the way the unique stuff and abilities were described, but I wasn't sure

>>147323093
>assaulting the fucking high ground
Only when that's a crucial step in your plan, you literally can't afford to wait, or when you're dead out of options should that be done it's like storming a city - fucking suicidal.

>>147323234
Pretty sure they are

>>147323234
There's separate Faction and Leader abilities although we've only seen one leader for each country so far
Expect DLC

>>147323145
>Strongest personality
>Obama
What the fuck, US had much more important leaders with stronger personality

>>147323376
>he doesn't want memes
It's a shame Trump isn't in it, it'd be fucking hilarious just because of how extremist he can be.

>>147323376
>first black president
>first president to get a nobel peace prize
He's pretty much a good candidate all around

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>>147323503

>>147323581
Better than most american civ leaders use until now, that's for sure.

>>147323503
>first black president
Why is this relevant for either personality or significance over even a meme like Kennedy?
>noble peace prize
Literally means less than 2400 on the SAT, it's pure politics. He LITERALLY was awarded it on his word before he actually did anything.

>>147323681
>Why is this relevant
Because it is and it adds some variety for the american civ rooster.

>Literally means less
Means more than anything you will ever achieve. It's a big achievement in international politics, which in itself should qualify him.

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>>147323681
Ugh, I hate going down the Yellow Bait Road with you, but...Cleopatra was far from one of the greatest Egyptian leadeers. She was just picked for two reasons.
A To shoehorn in more female leaders(the male to female ratio for the initial leader offerings will be fifty fifty or close to it)
B It gave an interesting unique AI personality to program
Cleopatra was far from a great Egyptian leader in the grand scheme of things...she's just famous and interesting.

>>147323869
We already established that for Civ VI leaders, Firaxis wanted "large personalities"

Cleopatra fits. Whether or not she's a "great" leader is mostly irrelevant

>>147323307
That can be good, I guess. So this time we can have Dido and Hannibal as both rulers, or Theodora and Basil. Makes me wonder which leaders we'll get for each civs

>>147323761
>Because it is
Race is now a matter of importance in and of itself, enough to qualify the man over people who actually did something like Nixon, Reagan, both Roosevelts, Washington, Jackson, and Lincoln?
>adds some variety
There's plenty of variety even if I just choose three biggies: Lincoln, Hamilton (technically not a leader, but pretty close) and Reagan. Three giants in American History.
>means more than
Completely irrelevant, if a country leader's accomplishments were less noteworthy than an average sophomore uni student he should consider suicide.
And no it REALLY isn't enough to warrant being included over actual giants important in history, and more importantly to include any very modern leader is foolish because we haven't truly felt the repercussions of their leadership.

>>147323869
Yeah except I'm pretty sure someone like Teddy or Lincoln was both relevant AND famous. Cleopatra had female (diversity), fame, and personality on her side, Obama has none of those besides being black for "diversity".

>>147323503
Theodore Roosevelt isn't black

>>147323967
>who actually did something like Nixon
>someone known for being a crook is more important than nobel winner
wew

>There's plenty of variety
It adds some for the US

>Completely irrelevant,
Completely relevant

>I'm pretty sure someone like Teddy or Lincoln was both relevant AND famous
So is Obama

>>147324023
Obama is famous because we live in his era, nothing more. The history books will consign him to the likes of Johnson and Polk

>>147323967
Yeah , clearly Obama is a bait suggestion.
So, Russia will deffo be Cathy,will mexico be in the iniital offering with Monty? Will Nappy come back for France? I would normally say it is a certainty, but after seeing them oust Nobu for Hojo, I am not sure of their criterion....
I assume civ tradition ensures Gandhi's place as nuclear warmonger.

>>147324016
I know, I'm talking about Obama. Granted, Teddy got a peace prize, Obama is much more capable than he is.

>>147324065
Cool opinion.

>>147324023
>someone known for being a crook is more important than nobel winner
Is Watergate ALL you know Nixon for? Not detente with China or something?

>adds some for the US
Do you define variety as only their skin color? Because now that's fucking racist, I thought we were judging off personality and ability?

>So is Obama
Because he's literally still in charge right now and we haven't had enough time to truly judge him. He doesn't have a distinctive personality either.

>>147324102
Russia is that insane saint or some shit iirc, Cathy and Peter could be DLC
Nappy has an insane force of will so if it isn't him it's probably Phillipe II "Augustus" or either Loius XI / Loius XIV

>>147324102
Monty and Gandhi were mentioned in a interview i think

>>147324149
>literally defending the crook
I'm being baited, fuck this

>>147324112
>Granted, Teddy got a peace prize, Obama is much more capable than he is.
You're going to have to back up this claim you baiting nigga, or I hope it's bait.
By the way, you're still wrong: Obama wasn't the first to get the Peace Prize, and we have had no time to truly judge his leadership.

>>147324197
>le crook
I bet you think Qin shouldn't be in either for his atrocities
Oh wait Wu did it too
Like Catherine huh
Oh but so did Isabella and Harald Bluetooth
Wew I think Bismarck wasn't a very nice guy

I'm being baited

>>147324149
>>147324170
Insane Saint? Not Rasputin? I mean, he's interesting but hardly a epic and formative leader of Russia...honestly, Ivan the Terrible would be the best choice.
I sure hope Genghis and Shaka are kept in the roster . Wouldn't be the same without them.

>>147324102
The thing with Monty is, if I'm not wrong there are multiple Monties, I think in Civ V we had the 3rd one but the other games had 4th? Whatever, we're probably going to have at least one of them

I'd also say Napoleon is in for certain if there are actually more than one leaders, did any other military based leaders of France have stronger personality than him?

>>147324280
No it's not Rasputin, it's the girl who was OP last thread known for basically setting a city on fire all at once

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>>147324294
Oh , god, pleaaase bring back multiple leaders for Civs. Pleeaassee....
>>147324308
In my opinion, if you have to go on a wiki crawl to find out who the leader was, it's a fail choice.

>>147324308
That reminds me.
Nero for Rome when?

>>147322298
only high grounders can understand. You are still a padawan I see

>>147324294
Imagine the butthurt if they made Charlemagne leader for France.

>>147324149
Peter I was euphoric before it was cool, troll of high caliber, drunken fratboy and pretended to be a working class man to steal Dutch trade secrets. What is Catherine's claim to fame other then reputation for promiscuity?

>>147324367
>In my opinion, if you have to go on a wiki crawl to find out who the leader was, it's a fail choice.
Eh whatever I kind of agree but they're going for personality as opposed to notability so...
Personally it sounds like a good excuse to just shove girls and minorities in.

>>147324401
Charlemagne qualifies to be leader of the EU
>Merkel / Charlie
>Merkel has a special line preaching religious tolerance
>Charlie has a reply saying to kill 4000 saxon men

>>147324431
>What is Catherine's claim to fame other then reputation for promiscuity?
Well seeing as they're going for personality, being an insane hyperslut who literally fucked her rebellious court into submission sounds good if only for our token slut.
I bet that saint whatever is going to be literally a goddamn walking inquisition though, it wouldn't surprise me if she immediately declared holy war on you if you had another religion....or remained non-religious for too long after meeting her.

>>147324515
>sounds good if only for our token slut.
we already have cleopatra though

>>147324515
So she's going to be Isabella of Civ VI? Jesus, I hated Isabella in Civ VI. She sends like thousands of missionaries a day

>>147324548
I'm almost certain they'll go for the Strong Women route for Cleo since her legend basically has her telling Augustus that she's not going to remain a vassal no matter how tasty his dick is.

>>147324563
No I doubt she'll stop at Isabella's tier
I mean we're talking about a girl whose literal claim to fame was getting sainted for being a convert to Christ and an incredibly brutal one at that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_of_Kiev
>The Drevlians sent twenty of their best men to persuade Olga to marry their Prince Mal and give up her rule of Kievan Rus. She had them buried alive. Then she sent word to Prince Mal that she accepted the proposal, but required their most distinguished men to accompany her on the journey in order for her people to accept the offer of marriage. The Drevlians sent their best men who governed their land. Upon their arrival, she offered them a warm welcome and an invitation to clean up after their long journey in a bathhouse. After they entered, she locked the doors and set fire to the building, burning them alive.
>

Now Olga gave to each soldier in her army a pigeon or a sparrow, and ordered them to attach by thread to each pigeon and sparrow a piece of sulfur bound with small pieces of cloth. When night fell, Olga bade her soldiers release the pigeons and the sparrows. So the birds flew to their nests, the pigeons to the cotes, and the sparrows under the eaves. The dove-cotes, the coops, the porches, and the haymows were set on fire. There was not a house that was not consumed, and it was impossible to extinguish the flames, because all the houses caught on fire at once. The people fled from the city, and Olga ordered her soldiers to catch them. Thus she took the city and burned it, and captured the elders of the city. Some of the other captives she killed, while some she gave to others as slaves to her followers. The remnant she left to pay tribute.[3]
The bitch is insane.

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And the turn after everyone but Kithra was killed by spectres.

>>147324668
>Queen of the Nile (Egypt): Cleopatra will respect someone with a strong military, but despise someone without one.
Sounds like the fucking slut of the game to me.

>>147324668
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_of_Kiev
>this entire article
Well I mean
She's not widely-known but there's no doubt whatsoever she was capable as all fuck and had an incredibly strong force of will.
>tfw her story is unironically strong womyn who don't need no man
I'm not sure how to feel about this
I think I'll side with the feminists on this one since she legit qualifies for the regular criteria and well if she actually was STRONK in real life that's how she should be portrayed
>inb4 the greeting message is "no I will not marry you and if you ask again you will soon be a man without manhood"

>>147324763
Sounds like a stacy golddigger actually, replace military with money and/or dicksize
Wow no she's buttugly AND has the worst personality so far

>>147324763
>Queen of the Nile (Egypt): Cleopatra will respect someone with a strong military, but despise someone without one.
So what
Bully the Axsumites and the North Africans but suck Roman dick? Sounds completely 100% accurate.
I'm not expecting it but do you think we might get unique lines for certain combos like Cleo and Augustus?

>>147324827
Strong or not she was certainly fiery.

>>147324882
What happens when she loses kek
>no I will NOT marry you I WILL NOT!
getting a chub

>>147324701
I'm downloading Civ IV for the first time because of you btw, I wonder how this will go

>>147325037
>for the first time
...how old are you?

>>147320762
How? Tell me.

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>>147325037
If its on steam make sure you set it to original release in beta if you're going to play mods.

Well that almost pushed me to breaking point, now there is enough room on the armageddon counter.

>>147325162
Starve them out, high ground is usually small. Build a wall around them if you like too, it'll be a hill-fort when they die.
Set fire to the hill they're on (conditional, it has to be long grass or something)
Pikewall (actually performs better when attacking uphill)
Attack something they need to reinforce to make them leave
Missile barrage (conditional, you need to have missile superiority)
Frontal assault with a U formation, people camping on a hill can't extend their front to prevent being flanked because they'd lose their height advantage. The center doesn't need to make contact, just pin the enemy center on the hill through presence. Condition is that they didn't fortify or aren't just on a plain slope.
I bet I could think of more but whatever. fuck gunpowder warfare

>>147325384
I don't think Anakin could have done any of those.

>>147325162
>>147325384
And again all this assumes they didn't have time to build a hill / mountain fortress, you're for the most part well and truly fucked in that case better to just change your plans unless you want to lose three times the men no matter what you try.

>>147325162
Mortars.

>>147325463
>enemy has mortars
Pls no

>>147325453
Well Anakin's never played Rome 1 either so he's a casul who probably plays Warhammer and cries it's too hard

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Time to take the capital... though there are some powerful units there.

What's the best civ 4 mega mod? Specifically which is the best at adjusting the time scale and amount of techs so that I can actually wage wars in an era without my units being invalidated in a couple dozen turns? Even default marathon is too slow and vanilla gets weird around when you discover gunpowder.

>>147326763
Caveman 2 Cosmos

I thought I understood Stellaris combat. I inspected enemy ships:
Corvettes: Torpedoes + Plasma Throwers + Shield.

So I equipped my corvettes and destroyers with:
Point Defense + Mass Drivers + Shield

They tear through my fleet like nothing. I destroyed probably only 3 ships, they destroyed all of my 30 ships. The numbers were equal.

>>147327005
Torpedoes ignore shields and aren't killed with pd effectively at all. You did the opposite of what you should have done.

>>147326763
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=230613736

>>147326827
I have literally never gotten past spearman in that mod

>>147327141
>civ 4

>>147327102
The shields were against the plasma throwers. Torpedoes are effective against both shields and armor afaik.
What should have I done then?

>>147327148
Because it's so long or because it's shit? If it takes so long then it's what I'm looking for.

>>147327364
It literally fucking starts from the Neolithic era, your first units are a fistfighter and a stone thrower and one of your priority techs is persistence hunting.

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>>147327210
>playing that old garbage
Civ 5 is better in every way

>>147327993
Irrelevant, you answered the wrong question. 0 marks.

>>147327993
The thing is, Gandhi's warmongering stat is really low, he just builds nukes and most of the time doesn't even use them. He only DoWs you if you really piss him off

Doesn't stop me from conquering India everytime I see them before modern age though

>>147328241
>The thing is, Gandhi's warmongering stat is really low, he just builds nukes and most of the time doesn't even use them. He only DoWs you if you really piss him off
Kek no, his warmonger stat being bugged is an ancient glitch

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>>147328313
The bug technically was that his warmonger stat was so low, that when it was reduced further it would rollback to the highest available value.

Which game should I buy?

-Gal Civ 2
-Gal Civ 3
-Stellaris

>>147328486
If you had to pick one, stellaris. Galciv is even more boring.

However the new moo is better than stellaris right now.

>>147328476
...that's the bug I was talking about, it's literally called an arithmetic underflow error.

>>147328313
I was talking about Civ V

>>147328623
I'm pretty sure it's been preserved in every incarnation of Civ as an ascended meme or some shit

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Daily remainder Nobunaga lives in XP background

>>147329527
why is he a ghost

>>147328486
Gal civ 2 at least its finished unliked the other 2.

>>147328698
I still remember getting memed on by India in Civ fucking 3. Going for the space race victory and India goes "fuck you, here's bomb"

>>147329578
He's the ghost of good games made by firaxis.

>>147325453
I'm not sure if other anon understand the meme completely

Is Stellaris good yet?

>>147326459
Looking at it, this game just looks like ass. The UI is cluttered as fuck, there are numbers everywhere, tiles don't fit next to earch other, borders are gore-y as fuck.
I mean, graphically it's fine and doesn't really matter to me, but interface and UI is just really fucking outdated and unpleasant to look at.
I know that gameplay-wise Civ4 is still king, but shit like that makes going back to it really difficult.

>>147331514
No, go away.

>>147329527
daily reminder that the civ 5 backgrounds dont look any better than civ 6 ones.

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>>147333510
Epic meme

>>147333596
its true though. the civ 5 backgrounds are actually just static images but there are a couple of areas that are animated.

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>Victoria in Civ VI looks bad

>>147328698
yeah in every single one they set his warmonger stat to the lowest and anything having to do with nukes to the highest possible

does only one mineral silo increase storage cap or can i build multiple silos?

>>147319702
I'm glad they're introducing a sort of limited unit stacking in Civ 6.

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Ebin facebook frog bump

>>147334571
While it may technically be an improvement to go from 'vomit-inducingly ugly' to 'butt ugly', it's still a far cry from looking good.

And the whole phone game artstyle is not helping, either.

WHat's the hottest new meme government / ethic choice?

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rate bait and hate

Is stellaris worth the 35€?
I really like Civ 5. I got a friend that moved to stellaris, told me good things, but wanted more feedback on the game.

>>147341296
Idk if it's just a bug, but democracy generates free leaders for me every election

>>147341604

Yeah it's some true Paradox quality programming (TM).

>>147341484
Don't think it's realistic for survivors of war they didn't start to drop their defences instead of arming and getting ready.

Looking for allies I can get, but I think xenophile ethos goes further then just tolerance which is unrealistic again.

>>147341484
4th grade/10

>>147341604
Play military dictatorship, have at least 1 admiral/general, wait for current leader to die, when voting pops up ignore and delete all current admirals/leaders, vote abstain on the pop up.
Congratulations, now you have no leader. Forever.

>>147340701
I really think the art style is fine apart from the leader faces.
And if the cheaper artwork means more money going into engine and feature development I will be happy.

>>147341604
They do? Democracies tend to elect your specialists who are removed from your leader pool. You'll see that your specialist is gone and hire a new one only for extra leader to return once he's replaced by a faction leader or something.

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I gotta say, Perfect World 3 makes some cool fucking maps

>>147344279

For some reason the most recent patch auto-generates a number of leaders when elections roll around (generally around about 3 or 4) who remain in the pool after elections finish. A few of your existing specialists are up for election, but for some reason all these new ones are generated at no cost and can give you more leaders than you're 'supposed' to have

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>You want do some diplomatic deals? Open borders, embassies, you name it :^)
>Just let me assemble all my troops around your border, not going to betray you or anything
>HAHA! I have betrayed you! Face the wrath of my shit-tier units!
>You defeated all my troops using your city's natural defenses and a Gatling gun you've been using for the last 100 turns? I guess we'll make peace...for now :^)
>Repeat from beginning
Can Dido just fuck off and die already?

Stellaris - if I conquered a planet and the species on it is rude and unhappy how can I rid the planet of them if I am fanatic pacifist?

Second, I accidentally colonized shit planet. It marked it green but has capped happiness to 5%. How can I uncolonize the planet?

>>147345996
>fanatic pacifist
By picking collectivist with your fanatical vegans.

>>147345996
>Stellaris - if I conquered a planet and the species on it is rude and unhappy how can I rid the planet of them if I am fanatic pacifist?
Just how unhappy they are? -25% will pass. Add governer, entertainment, try to converge their ethics, they'll soon become productive.
>Second, I accidentally colonized shit planet. It marked it green but has capped happiness to 5%. How can I uncolonize the planet?
Can you resettle the pops? You probably colonized a planet most fit for aliens. Let planet grow in 5 pops, and start moving your pop out and their in. Allowing migration would do part of the job but it's not perfect for this.
Finally, leave your pops alone and then genetically modify them.

>>147345678
Bitches ain't shit but hoes n trick.

>>147345678
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this.
But Dido is trying to tell you something here.

What she's trying to tell you is that she gets a waterfall going in her panties when she fantasizes about being your helpless fucktoy after you drag her into your palace.

>>147345678
>people think these backgrounds are better than civ 6

>>147346313
>Just how unhappy they are? -25% will pass. Add governer, entertainment, try to converge their ethics, they'll soon become productive.
-5% Voting Rights, -5% Leadership, -5% First Contant Protocol, -25% Recently conquered

They are forming powerful pop faction.

>Can you resettle the pops?
Genetically modifying sounds good. I forgot about that.

>>147345678
Why is she so perfect

>>147346670
-15% is manageable. You can allow xeno leaders later.

Factions seem to be currently broken, they take up arms and instantly disperse causing faction to implode. But keep an army on their planets just in case.

>>147346926
The biggest problem is that federation wages wars. This puts me in additional -25% happiness. And this stacks pretty fast.

>>147341484
>hostile foes

kind of redundant don't you think

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>>147346517
But I don't want to conquer her. I just want her to leave me alone. Best girl was already kicked out of the game, and Dido is a poor substitute.

>>147341484
>shit tier bio
>cuck numale haircut
gay and stupid

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This is fucking insane.

>>147350762
Are you playing windowed? Also what is that resource? I don't remember ever seeing it

>>147350762
We can't settle here, this is Buffalo Country

>>147350954
Yeah, playing windowed so I can shitpost with ease. That resource is bison. It's from the newest patch (I think it's about a year and a half old) that added cocoa (luxury), bison (bonus), and nerfed tradition just slightly.

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>>147350762
>Russia
>gets +1 faith from camps
xaxaxaxa

>>147351209
What the hell I thought I had the latest patch. I didn't know my download of Civ V was that old. I'll download the patches now

>>147351209
Fun fact: They forgot to update the granary, bison do not profit from it.

>>147352949
>Stuffing a bison into granary
>This is going to increase its yield

Civ V Bundle Pack
Y/N?

>>147347495
Theodora is literally a prostitute.

>>147322298
t. Anakin

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>>147350762
nigger you fucking best get camp food religion or ill kill your whole imaginary family

>>147353931
Is this Shogun 1?

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>>147352949
Good thing I'm using the community patch.

>>147353931
Best Total War(alongside with 1st Medieval).

>>147354018
yes

>>147352949
I use a mod for that

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>>147354031
>community patch
>>147354848
>mod

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>>147353931
>the two bridges map
Fuck.
They all died, man. They all died there.

>>147354265
Rome is my favourite.
Not the second one dummy.

>>147354265
I like FotS the most. But only because I have huge boner for that time period and line warfare.

What's the better game, Stellaris or Gal Civ 2? Is 3 better, I've never pirated that one before.

>>147356231
Medieval is objectively better than Rome. An evolutionary upgrade and the height of the old formula.

>>147322002

>disney eyes

scraping the bottom of the original barrel

>>147356649
Distant Worlds

>>147353931

>this nostalgia
>hold off massive armies on that bridge
>PEESANTS ARE LAYYZEE!

>>147356954
Oh you mean M2? I liked that one but I couldn't get over the fact that every time I issued a command to my units it took them 2 seconds to react. That and the sheer length of the campaign made me not finish it even once.

>>147358703
Also archer were too fucking OP in M2. 3 Sherwood easily killed heavily armored knight armies even in multiplayer.

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r8 'n h8

Never played individualists before, is being unable to purge a big problem?

Plus I'm using the new 'deviants' trait so fully expect my individualistic warriors to become pacifist conformists within the first century.

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>>147364619
What ship mod is that?

>>147353931
In the original Total War: Shogun, I once watched a Kensai successfully defend a bridge against an entire brigade of enemy Samurai. In that moment the last vestiges of historical accuracy drained out of the series, never to return.

>>147358703
>>147359219
Historically accurate

>>147364619
>it's
>that run on sentence
>a "mining colony" established by a generation ship
5/10 see me after class

>>147340701
It looks like they decided to make an HD version of the CivIV artstyle, which is kind of like making an HD version of the original Startox artstyle.

>>147364957
Pirate Ship Types;

>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=686764629&searchtext=

>>147353348
worth the money if you like this kind of game. It's cheap so even if you don't like that much, it won't be a big loss.

>>147364619
>it's

>>147365824
What run on sentence? I cannot see.

>>147366816
There should be a period between "worlds" and "most" in the first paragraph.

Also, they should probably be using wormholes if you're trying to tie them into the same backstory as the Commonwealth. Even if you aren't, warp sucks.

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>>147365574
If you say so.

Thread archived.
You cannot reply any more.

Can I change my war philosophy if I started the game before the asimov patch or am I fucked?

>>147372547
Don't scare me like that.

>>147373113
Try it and find out.
But a good rule of thumb is to assume all save games and modsare broken after every patch.

I remember a game of vanilla Vicky 2 that I ran over several weeks, and there was a major patch at some point during that. By the end of the game everyone had hundreds of millions of pounds sterling. and all three scores were inflated wildly, because of whatever the patch did.

>>147374640
It doesn't even show up where it's supposed to.

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>2220
>not even months into the game
>two 150 strength "Beta Menace" jumps in
Paradox what the fuck are you doing?

>>147375759
Bet you have aggressive first contact. It could happen from 1.0.0

>>147375759
Those are just space amoebas. They usually fuck off without even entering the gravity well.

>>147377445
Aggressive first contact doesn't really do anything. It allows you to attack non-hostile unidentified aliens but won't make them hostile and won't make your fleets engage them automatically.

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>endless legend
>on the cusp of a science victory
>faggot ass cultists empire next door goes "le no I get the empire wrecking guardian unit I declare war now :))))))"
Yes, I'm upset.

>>147375759
>menace
stop playing paranoid faggots

those are just amoebas, kinda sucks if they hit your wormhole station like that

I'm going to buy Endless Space from the Steam summer sale, should I get the Disharmony DLC with it or not?

Is Stellaris good yet?

Been away from Endless Legend for a few months and might snag Shifters before the sale ends. Does Shifters add a lot to the game, or can I skip it and not miss out on much?

>>147384629
lol

>>147384629
What part of "wait a year" do you not understand?

>>147384629
It needs more time/content.

I mean it's fine for a game or two as is but it defiantly needs more time in the oven.

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HAHA TIME FOR DUST

benis

rip in pepperonis /4xg/

Bed games.

>>147391997
more like ded games

>>147353931
I miss the time when Total War was good.

There's a empire complex in my empire that I can't find. Is there any way for me to find it other than clicking through hundreds of worlds?

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>Got Doviello
Well though this civ was going to suck turns out its rather good with how the units work.
They get enough kills they upgrade, they also get marks from animals giving a buff on what it was.

What's the best mod for Civ IV?

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>>147400920

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On page 9 already? Why is /vg/ so fast now? Here have a bump with an ebin civ meme pic

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>Cold Iron
Replaces the unit with himself at full hp.
Well now that's beyond broken.

>>147401026
>kitchen sink added over 20 versions ago
>didn't even slow down since then

There's a point where bloat gets ridiculous, and much beyond that there's building candlemaker workshops, which is amazing in its own way

Is there a way to stop your alliance mates from declaring rivalry on other empires? Everyone seems to be making defensive pacts and I'm afraid of getting drawn into another war.

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as the image title says.

I've only finished a precursor quest once since the game came out..

>>147404089
Is that reference to ME games or something?

>>147403824
Become powerful enough that you don't need an alliance, or ally yourself with personalities like Hive Mind that just want to be left alone.

>>147404089
Finished the First League yesterday, only gives 500 society research and by then I had 250+ a month anyway

>>147403824
Best alliance is you and your vassal states.

>>147406003
Thanks for the tip. The only one I finished was the one of the titanic precursors (don't remember the name 'cause it hasn't appeared in any new game).

That one in particular gives 2000 energy and minerals, and a solar system with a Tomb world and some mining asteroids.

>>147406284
Cybrex is the best as it gives you the living metal resource

>>147406396
>Ceber Ex?
>living metal?
Coincidence?
I think not.
It also come with broken ring world system and it usually have solid science resources.

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Now the ai is doing it.

>>147323145
I seriously hope they'll add Merkel for Germany so that the salt flows eternal

>>147406991
Oh yeah.
I want to see that.

Enjoying Stellaris despite the (glaring) flaws.

Any tips to being the founder race behind a Federation. Done vassals and conquering and trying to be diplomatic this time but should I just blob and force democracy instead?

Dead thread

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Just how many more of these are there?

how do i into cultists?

Speaking of Gandhi, what do you guys think his dark side will be? Creating peace through killing everyone a-la Tacitus?

>>147329578
Maybe they're all ghosts, Asian ones don't have feet.

>>147334571
I'll argue that Vicky in there actually looks better than in Civ VI, mostly because they went for a pseudorealistic style and obviously tried to make her look like an middleaged-old woman, which she was in the more famous years of her reign.
Meanwhile Civ VI seems to be trying to make her attractive and fails horribly.

>>147347495
>Theo
Theo is a literal dancer girl, the high class equivalent of a street whore.

>>147345678
Carthage wasn't known for being trustworthy according to the Romans aka the only sources we have, but Dido was supposed to be super virtuous and shit according to the Aeneid. That being said this is probably after she got pump-and-dumped so don't blame her.

>>147412252
Infinite.
What the fuck year you on?

7 Full games of Stellaris and each time I get the Scourge. How do I unlock Jump drives? I've played wormhole the last 3 games and each time i've got to Tier 3 and Jump drives never show up.

>>147412252
>mod an easy game to be even more easy

Holy shit mang.

>>147414257
>each time I get the Scourge
what the fuck. I've probably played about 5 full games and I got unbidden every time.

you can get jump drives with warp,hyperlanes and wormholes. Materialists get a -chance to it showing up in research, spiritualists get a +chance to it showing up, all others stay the same. Also some say it helps if the scientists has a psionics trait

>>147412252
>XC
what the fuck

>>147415183
90

>>147415689
Yes, I know but researching that 90 times seems excessive

How do I reduce lag during Civilization 5: Brave New World multiplayer? I've tried it like twice and the lag has always been terrible. It takes like 15 minutes for the game to go from a player ending their turn to starting the next turn across all the players. And this was with 4-player games.

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I just lost a city to barbarians

I forgot that in Civ IV they could capture a city

>>147416121
Turning on quick movement and combat should help, as far as I remember.

>>147416169
LOSE MORE
Then scream in horror when Genghis Khan suddenly appears mid-game with armies just waiting to conquer the world.

I loved how Civ IV would just aut-generate new civs if the barbarians conquered enough land.

>>147416489
Makes sense though, it's kind of what the Franks did.

>>147414257
You really need to be spirutual. The chance is like 40 times greater for them, 60 if fanatic.
It's still possible if you get a guy with psionics traits, but spiritualists still have double the chance you do.

>>147414257
You need a genius trait scientist for that, I get it every time.

>>147421105
Not him, but how does traits affect the possible research options?

>>147423352
It's not explicitly stated but the files for research have hidden modifiers

>>147423917
IIRC, it is explicitly states. Tutorial tells you about this

>>147424364
It doesn't tell you explicitly what affects what though.

Any of you ever try this? ıs it good?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=603182475&searchtext=

>casts resurrection

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>Kicked out of my own federation
>AI keeps asking me to help them declare war on myself

Why does everyone hate me?

Also when will GOOD mods be out?

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>>147364619
>le hooman

They got nothing on my space hippies tbqh

>>147428847
Speaking of which, do you need to input an empire by text to be able to have linebreaks? I'm a hueg faget when it comes to writing biographies.

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>3 neighbors squabbling over who has the biggest dick and they keep asking me to go to war with them against the small dicks while I'm fucking broke on naval power
>meanwhile someone LITERALLY next to them has 25 planets and a protectorate that is breaking shit

and there goes, it's another genocide crusade
Is there ANY other way to win this game but to put your big boy pants on and conquer every single colony everyone has, decade after decade?

>>147429803
>Is there ANY other way to win this game but to put your big boy pants on and conquer every single colony everyone has, decade after decade?
You win by not playing and playing a good game

>>147429902
I'm kinda starved on good games right now
Any pointers?

>>147429940
I'm busy reading manga so no.
Xin is a massive fucking faggot.

>>147429940
Attila with FotE
Banner Saga
Pillars of Eternity
Tomb Raider's two reboots although I'm pretty sure there aren't any nude mods and Lara's tits got smaller because of SJWs but she has a fine ass at least
Red Dragon
Dynasty Warriors 8XL just for the brainless fun, Empires if you just want to kill things with a custom waifu

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Confused spastics keep asking for me to join their war against... myself

lolno

10/10 great coding Wiz

>>147430137
>telling anyone to play empires
fuck off?

>>147430137
>Attila with FotE
TW:Attila? Is that actually good? I have really low opinion on Warscape desu

>>147430541
Why not, it's just braindead killing with custom waifus and it's [Free], just get the torrent with all the DLC

>>147430572
Why? Just get a mod that turns off matched combat or something if you care that much, collisions do happen in Warscape.
It's usually considered the best TW to date although it has a few annoying things

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKJDAVvs_JA

>>147431073
Are you using the Trump mod or are you just memeing all by yourself?

>>147431073
Watch Khan and his bitch Theodora blow you apart

>>147431227
Playing vanilla, seemed like the right thing to do after he declared war.

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>Decide to play the bad guys for once instead of star trek federation nice guys
>Not being some enslaving shitbag but I'm expanding aggressively
>People near me feel threatened but don't do anything, and I share a boarder with a xenophobic isolationist FE who isn't saying anything either
>Prethoryn Swarm event triggers, and they make landfall in the middle of what's basically my new frontier sector.
>Suddenly everyone's sending me insults, FE makes some demand and my only options are WAR or be embarrassed. Pick embarrassed. This thing triggers twice during entire crisis.
>Going full industrialised pumping out shit tons of ships to deal with scourge doomstacks, nobody else is helping me
>Finally kill them.
>Deal with the fucking cunty FE, that'll show them
>FE planets rebel
>Everyone near me who was sending insults decides to war dec me
>Kill them but my fleet is decimated
>Sort my energy economy out because the patch has fucked it
>pump out 3 times as many ships as I've ever had

ROUND 2 BITCHES!

>>147432001
>unironically using sectors

>>147430313
I think it's specifically them wanting to take your vassals stuff.
But yes still 10/10 wiz a shit.

>>147431393
>>147431073
It's not even facing the right way?

>>147432001
Epic blob my friend although It'd a poor idea to blame you seeing as there's well and fucking truly nothing else to do, moreso than any other Paradox game besides HoI IV.

>>147319567
Guys help should I get Stellaris or Distant Worlds?

>>147433230
Whichever one is more immoral

>>147433230
Why not both you casual?

>>147433230
Distant Worlds

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Any tips for Alpha Centauri?

>>147433539
Why?

>>147433449
Because I don't want to spend $60 on two games when I will likely only be playing one of them primarily.

>>147433294
I don't know what you mean by this.

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>>147433668

>>147433892
>I don't know what you mean by this.
Fuck your oneechan and she will tell you which one to buy

>>147433892
Do you even torrent?

>>147433892
Because it's better

>>147434000
I don't have an oneechan

>>147434020
No because I'm not a degenerate

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>>147434104
>No because I'm not a degenerate
>torrenting fucking PARADOX games is degeneracy
>torrenting games to legitimately try them out since you're already prepared to buy is degeneracy
Kill yourself handsome

>system with SIX drone mining bases
WEW

>>147434234
I rescind my comment actually. You should torrent paradox games because they are usually nothing more than half polished shit when they are first released. I just bought Distant Worlds thinking about this. Stellaris will go on sale again and will probably have better updates by then anyway.

>>147434518
Right.
Also I'm still of the opinion that if you torrent legitimately to try out a game, there's no reason not to. Some games like AoE and stuff you can't even finish one match in the two hours Steam gives you, and torrenting has a nice advantage of showing you what the complete game looks like with all DLC.

Any1 have opinions on Sins? Been playing civ 5 for a while want to try a space 4x, any options?

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spooky
Too bad the scale in the game is fucked up, it be even spookier if it wasn't

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Holy Shit!

Who is starting an American playthrough today?!

The tyranids are about to reach my galaxy. I only have a single fleet of 100k. How fucked am I?

>>147436794
It's July 5th though.

>>147437089
I bet you're not even a civ lol

>>147433230

Stellaris is totally worth your $40! They have made a 4X game that genuinely feels very different every game. I like MoO2 a lot, but each game can end up being similar to the last after a while. Stellaris randomizes many more things than MoO2. The aliens are random, the technology, the colonization types, the leaders, etc. You always end up dealing with a really unique situation, which is awesome. Stellaris is a lot more ambitious kind of game then HOI4 (don't get me wrong its fantastic too obviously).

However, they are still working out the balance a bit in Stellaris. You can easily adjust that to your liking with mods, but it take a bit of effort and learning. You won't even notice the balance until you have played for 30 hours anyway, and you might like it vanilla. So basically if you are looking for a game to play quite a lot, and if you are the type to put a lot of time into game modding: get Stellaris. If your looking for some quick and better balanced grand strategy get HOI4.

>>147437234
Wu's China was about ten times as strong as America before it got nerfed

>>147437278
>balance a bit
I'm sure pretty everyone in this thread want this to happen. Problem is when? As of now, many of us have kinda given up on it.

>>147437089
Shouldn't you be getting to bed, Haruto?

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>>147437278
>Stellaris is totally worth your $40!
>Stellaris is a lot more ambitious kind of game then HOI4 (don't get me wrong its fantastic too obviously).
>So basically if you are looking for a game to play quite a lot, and if you are the type to put a lot of time into game modding: get Stellaris. If your looking for some quick and better balanced grand strategy get HOI4.
You're uh
Being ironic right
You're not an actual shill?

>>147437841
Kiyo, go back to /fgog/ and get you new skill

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>>147437993
Kiyohime is qt

>>147437278
This is a shitposter pretending to be a shill.
Actual shills aren't this obvious and real people don't think HoI4 is good.

>>147437353
America is underrated desu.

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What victory should I go for in civ?
Diplomatic Victory as Huns?

>>147438575
It's like
Mid-tier

>>147438575
I agree, but its uniques are pretty late, most people's game don't last that long

>>147438575
How are they underrated. It looks like straight up fucking garbage to me

>>147436794
With Civ VI having multiple leaders, if Washington is not in it I'll probably kill myself. Washington is my founding-fatherfu

>>147439932
Mods
They'll probably put in whoever wins 2016 too
Shillary for being a grill
Trump for having super ridiculous personality

>>147439712
GREAT units that are relevant as soon ideological tension kicks off and the UA is great for forward settling and getting cities productive early on.

It's ridiculous like the Shoshone but it's certainly under appreciated. People don't know how to go wide. Noobs particularly like the tradition tree.

America is even better with the CBP.

>>147440002
Mods will put both in.
I very strongly doubt Firaxis will include either. Has a living person appeared in any Civ game?

>>147440157
>Noobs particularly like the tradition tree
Tradition is just straight up better than Liberty though.

>>147440242
Like I said...

>>147440157
>People don't know how to go wide. Noobs particularly like the tradition tree.
Can't really blame them, Civ V is set up to kick you in the balls when you try to play wide.

>>147440472
Noobs don't know that tradition is better.

So what's the deal with this planet that has an impenetrable barrier
I've heard they spawn in FEs like ringworlds

>>147440591
Wide was too OP before it got nerfed to hell, but it's still viable. Like with a civ like Rome, you should easily go wide

>>147440625
Noobs go tall. They don't know how to expand at the limit of their happiness. Tradition is always better for tall.

>>147440472
Tell me how Legalism alone isn't better early game than any of the policies in Liberty until you have 5-6 cities up, four free monuments by something like 200 culture on Marathon is huge, you can literally pop 3 culture huts and get it
The only thing that comes close is that worker policy in Liberty.

>>147440749
But Rome literally depends on how tall Rome itself is, everything else can be shallow as hell and pump out units but Rome has to be one of the best cities in the world to be competitive.

>>147440817
But you'll be tall anyway early on.

>>147441006
>early on
If you don't know how to expand at the limit of your happiness.

Try Mayan ICS.

>>147440817
>Noobs go tall.
When I was a noob I always picked liberty and tried to go wide.
It's not even all that difficult if you settle each city near a new luxury.

>>147440749
When was wide OP? Vanilla civ 5 was pretty obviously designed to force you into going tall.

>>147441141
No it's not that, it's that you'd be wasting time pumping out settlers. You can usually finish three or four policies in, what, 200 turns on Marathon?

>>147441141
Being wide also depends on your environment though, I usually think of going wide, then explore the world and see there are only a few places worthy of setting so go tall anyway. Also the actual question was about USA, and they're still viable as tall

>>147441194
It was designed to be that way, yes. Doesn't mean it worked the way devs intended though.

>http://www.sullla.com/Civ5/bnwreview.html
Read expansion section for history of ICS in Civ 5

>>147441336
Yeah but I don't think they're 'underrated', they're mid-low tier anyway, Washington isn't a Cathy, Harald or Wu.

>Carriers and corvettes got fixed.
>New, more sensible AI behaviors too.
>Ships still try to charge and shoot the enemy with point defenses rather than hold back and use their actual offensive weapons.

Should I install rangefinder again or just stop putting point defense on my ships?

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I mean this isn't that bad

>>147441854
Were the fucking synths wiped out?

Is there some site talking about the weapons and defences?
When to use energy, explosive, kinetic, shield or armor. Differences between weapons of the same type (coilgun vs autogun, lasers vs lances, bombers vs fighters)

>>147441518
>Harald
I'll agree there, people think Harald is one of the worst but he's seriously underrated, that going from sea to land bonus is insane if used right

What do you don't like about Washington? I played him last long time ago but IIRC, Minuteman is literally godtier, I never liked air combat in Civ V anyway but I think their B17 was good too. And their UA helps with getting early ruins/finding good city spots and securing resources. You never have the problem of another civ forward settling you or stealing resources where your city could have expanded as George

>>147442040
Minuteman is insanely good (mainly because of that fucking Golden Age ability) but the UA is only useful if you go wide, it's worthless on smaller maps and also not useful if, say, there's only a few places worth settling.
I just don't think they're amazing, they're not shit, but they're not amazing.
Who do you think is the best civ in the game on small and giant maps respectively?

>>147442497
Useless is a strong word, but yes, America in general is better on larger maps.

>>147442497
I last played Civ V like a year ago so speaking from memory, the best civ in the game, on any map setting really, would probably be Neb or Korea. But that's too obvious, that probably wasn't what you were asking about

I guess for a small map an early domination civ would be the best, something like Attila or Genghis

For small map probably Cathy, you can grab lands fast easily thanks to their UB, their UA gives production to strategic resources and you have the double number of most of them. Going as wide as you can with Cathy is probably the smartest and you'll be strong as hell. Double number of nukes is not something to be laughed at

I guess depending on the map type, if there are lots of deserts, Arabia would be the best in giant or small maps. IIRC, oil spawns in desert more often and they already have a bonus to desert

I might have missed some, I should play Civ V again sometime

I'm both a Paradox and a Stardock fan, but in this case it really shows that Stellaris is Paradox' first attempt into this genre with their own engine. It will get there eventually but for now, its mid/endgame simply sucks, where as in GalCiv 3 you can definitely have interesting endgames (not always of course), because of how their diplomacy and events work. A United Planets council can really screw you up for instance if you're on the political wrong side.

>>147443127
>Korea
Meant Sejong
>For small map probably Cathy
Meant giant map, obviously

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Is there any Stellaris mods that makes humans white only with white hair?

>>147443307
>he doesn't read the OP

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>>147443307

>>147443307
you should be able to make one easily yourself, you do know how to use photoshop, right?

>>147443128
>being a stardock fan
I mean I was too but then they shoved Elemental down my throat

>>147444594
Not him but why would I know how to use photoshop when I have no artistic abilities of any kind

>>147443128
>its mid/endgame simply sucks
Yeah, I was pretty disappointed because early-game expansion is actually a lot of fun, although I think it needs more events and anomalies so you haven't seen everything after three games.
But as it is right now I don't think any of my half-dozen or so games have lasted a century. It just gets pretty boring once the initial land grab is over, especially if you don't have the means or the ethics to start shitting on your rivals.

>>147444818
For easy memeing, modding little things like that, etc. Photoshop is far easier to use than you think

>>147443128
Being a fan of any company not just choosing best products.
I learn that company loyalty don't exist and its just illusion.
Being fan of
>Paradox
>stardock
You really must enjoy eating shit, don't you?
And you probably pay for it too?

>>147443307
I could made one. I actually made one for 1.1
Its not hard and all you need is notepad++

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>>147437089
I tried to complete my first game in time, I really did.

>>147446348
I used to be a Paradox fan until CK2 became extremely popular and they started pandering to bads.
I am a Firaxis fan even though they make stinkers I probably won't buy, like Beyond Earth, because they're the only major company still making expansion packs.

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So what do I do now? The fallen empire fell to my 50k stack and nothing's going on in the galaxy.
The largest empire besides me is >inferior<.
Everybody has -1000 on me for raping my faggot neighbors. Every meaningful tech researched and my pops at max happiness.
It's like CK2 all over again, I can't help but minmax, that's what makes games fun for me.