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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam!)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA) , Orsha (NA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If your guild is recruiting, please post recruitment notice in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
TakeItEasy (Moonie_)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Good builds :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c

Remember to REPORT and IGNORE shitposters instead of giving them the attention they want and helping them shit up the thread.
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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I LOVE TALT!
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Guys, should I add a Gem to a Vubbe Fighter Gauntlets ? If so witch one and at what level ?

I"m thinking about adding a lvl2 red gem, but scared of being doing something stupid.
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>>147252127
Hagrid? Is that you?
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>people keeping saying sr2 is shit
>finally get one to rank7
>doing 10k Crits with retreat shot on 10+ enemies
>dealing 3x more aoe damage than the elememe in our party

Guys???
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>>147252340
>level 2 gem
kek, if you intend to use it endgame the min is level 6 gems
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>>147252340
If you're going dex build and going to use vubbe gaunts forever, just drop in a lvl5 or 6 gem.
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>>147252563
Sure, but is it still god end game?
I was under the impression it became useless past 150
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>>147252340
you can remove gems. no worries.
but they lose 1 lvl if you do.

use at least a Lv4 gem on gear
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When will we be able to get these Fine pair of American Gloves?
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necromancer are royalty
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>>147252716
Great, but what about the gloves potential ? will it lower by removing ?

Also, I'm not really sure how the potencial thing work.
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>>147252632
Depends on your build obviously but some will be using it till 280
Its not like the smelly cafrisuns that become shit due to def scaling, accuracy is mostly worthless unless you're full str or something
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how do you avoid getting stunned/frozen?

mobs hop on me like black friday tv holy shit

do i seriously just gotta bite the pillow and take it?
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>>147252885
I'm a meme fletcher going full dex, so I guess i wil be hanging to it huh...

What about stucking a lvl 1 red gem on it just for the lil bonus ? And then putting a lvl 6+ on it when I'm able to creaft one ?
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>>147252825
next week. when we get all kTOS things!

>>147252859
>potential ?
no.
only enchants and making a socket lower it. (and awakening)
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>>147252825
Magnum Opus.

1 Forest Leather Gloves, 1 Hard Veris Gloves and 2 Veris Gloves.
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>>147253007
>Fletcher
>full dex
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>147252838
>farms silver like a peasant
>so he can buy gear from the people playing the game and killing bosses
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Daily reminder to purchase aspersion from your local jew to take 1 damage from everything besides magic.
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>>147253007
Go str. Find yourself a dexlinker. Do mad deeps.
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>>147253187
Don't meme me, I've read a gazillion thread about strxdex and nobody seems to find a real sollution, so it doesnt matter.
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>>147253275
>~700 defense with memedef gear and memedef buff
>take 7000dmg+ and die
thanks miss infoagent
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>>147250693
You cropped out the >boy, lala.
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>>147253007
I hope your linker friend went full str for your sake since you screwed over yourself pretty hard.
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>>147253275
>17 likes
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>>147253301
I've already put all my points into dex, i'm at 36 atm
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>>147252378
>level 280 are using 75 items still
>they forgot to even add items so you can't craft important recipes
>t-the 260 and 320 i-items will be so g-good
good luck. i'll use my damage advantage now to get myself more money and kill more people enjoying the game
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>>147253046
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>tfw i have endgame gear for multiple classes and builds
>tfw i have only spent silvers to buy a Max Peta recipe because i wanted to upgrade my Petamion and it was a cheap recipe
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>>147253429
I'm playing solo though
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>>147253465
>only at 36
Its not too late to fix this, anon. Just put the rest of your points in str and you'll be fine. With so few points you wouldn't even have to reroll.
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>>147253384
>its this def does nothing meme again
you do remember the webms still exist right miss info chan?

If you're going to meme with this bs again, at least wait till a time where people who don't have the proof webms are on.
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>>147253581
I heard that by sticking to a single stat you get the best return cause of the bonus scales.
So if I really did fuck up I might as well reroll.
Now I'm confus as I've read multiples thread saying that full dex fletcher is fine too.
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>>147253650
yes. i remember them. but i still got kileld with ~700def
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>>147252964
buy some dispellers
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>>147253719
Dex fletcher is okay, but with so many dex linkers in the bossing meta now, if you don't have one of your own, you'll be hard-pressed to win a cube if there's any group contesting it.
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>>147253429
>Making characters based on linksluts

Disgusting
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>>147253384
apparently damage hits for much lower at first than the actual number but then there's a huge multiplier so if you stack defense shit actually works
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>>147253719
Anyone who says full dex fletcher is fine has never properly world bossed which is the whole point of fletcher.

Either that or they have the rare full str linker/ a full str friend that can give the str to you in wb situations.

Both full dex and full str are equally fine in pve outside wb though.
Full dex is easier through since it lets you shoot magic meme at your feet than facetank everything with dodges to rape stuff.
You will however lose out on a massive amount of damage depending on whether you went the meme r3 or the a2 variant, it could be even more damage you miss out on,
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>>147253734
1k def means you take 1 damage from every single monster (except ticen mage) in Maven Abbey. The last (currently) grinding spot in the game.
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>>147253061
LMAAAAAAO
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>>147253275
How the fuck does one get that much def with only aspersion?

Someone fucking explain this shit, how the fuck does he have 1000 def?
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>>147253007
Everyone went crazy about my full dex fletcher and nobody anwsered my question, is it fine to add a lvl 1 red gem to the gloves as a lil bonus?
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>>147254039
Overrefined equips I guess
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>>147254236
waste of gem exp and silver inserting/desocketing costs but go ahead
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>>147254039
refined grynas equips
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>>147254236
You should.

The gains are amazing.
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>>147253220
>people killing world boss might earn a recipe to sell for 2-3m in a single day if they're lucky.
>if they're unlucky might use 100 cube rolls and earn cards/10m worth of stuff after camping for week
>i can earn that 5m+ per day allowing my minions to work for me as i relax
if i didn't quit for a month i'd be one of richest people on the server by far. adding to that, i don't use world boss gear. my damage is from attributes and enchant
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>>147254039
my guess

>Superior Royal Guard Armor
>Grynas Armor
>Superior Royal Guard Pants
>Grynas Leggings
>220 Shield
+5 or more
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>>147254305
How much it costs to insert and to desock?
The gem exp i understand though.
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>>147254039

>equip full plate armor
>equip shield
>hold C (increases def from skill)
>get aspersion
>ayy lmao +9999999 def

Aspersion captures your current def, including buff and what not. You can do this then switch to Caprisun and still enjoy the +32456 def buff.
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>>147254236
>>147254305
>waste of gem exp, on a lvl1 red gem
>silver inserting/desocketing costs on a fucking lvl15 vubbe gaunts
please
but yea a lvl1 gem has such shit stats, there's no point
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>>147254039
enchanted grynas most likely, he/shes literally invincible to everything besides magic for the current game
LITERALLY 1S FROM MAVEN UNLESS MAGIC
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>>147254385
>How much it costs to insert
nothing
>and to desock?
not that much at low lvl items

>>147254236
>is it fine to add a lvl 1 red gem to the gloves as a lil bonus?
sure do it. but the bonus will be really very low. go ahead if you want..
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>>147252473
Most people don't realize it counts as strike damage so it can hit hard as fuck with the right conditions.
You also hit like a wet noodle against leather.
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always remember your swords
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What happened to all the corpse hands that used to be on the market? Farming these on my alt is so tedious...

Does anyone have any they can sell to me? I need ~95 more at this point.
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I'm 206, do I still need to save xp cards or can I just card to 217 or my rank 7 level?
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>>147254846
The only time exp cards matter is 170-175.
Just stay within 4 levels of your quest zone.
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>>147254776
did you quit the game and come back with the news of getting all corean """"""Content""""""""?
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You guys have any good guide for the full str linker you're talking about?
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>>147254782
maybe they all banned or outleveld that map?

i was also looking to buy them but never in market.
then i was lucky and there was 7xx right before i logd out last night.
there are now 48 in Market (Klaidedo)
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what did he mean by this???
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>>147254846
quest up to the 232 map (not using cards, card to 224, grind your way to 230, grind your way to 247 card to 252, grind your way to 260, card to 265 after exploring every area, grind to 275, do all monster kill quests -> card to 280

then in 2.5 weeks we'll get all the quests from ktos and you'll feel like a C U C K !! !
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>>147254963
Don't do it ever unless you like suffering since literally nothing scales with str, not even you auto attack since even wielding a sword shoots magic missiles based on int.
I mean dex is still suffering but at least you can dodge shit but full str linkers are pure and refined suffering that cucks go through because of retarded friends that go full dex.

t. someone who has a cuck friend that ragequitted the game at 171 from trying to become a str linker for his guilds fletcher
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>>147255003
>>>/reddit/
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Hows your farming going?
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>>147254846
you can card to 210 and grind
or card+quest to 230+ (R7 is at 223-225)
206 should be enough to pop cards

>card to 217
the 217 dung is low exp.
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>>147255165
Great, thanks.
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>>147254846
You can literally card from quests/missions/kill counts + dungeon runs over a 2 week period to 260-270 depending on time spent per day.

The only real grinds that exist is maven and bit of storage
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>>147255165
tfw you're a potjew and guild has 0 points in farms
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I wanna attend a tosg wedding!
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Clari~~~~~~n is very cute. please do not bully her.
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>>147255145
But we will lvl up together.
I will be the one killing shit we will be there sitting.
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>>147255308
>missions/kill counts + dungeon
>not grinding
Lmaoing at your life
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>>147254945
i'm probably never coming back, the game was grossly mishandled
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>>147255145
>be dumb enough to suffer for world boss mafia
he deserved it
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>>147255456
Hang in there Alchjew
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>>147255529

I want to fucking die already!
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>>147255529
when (not if, naturally) IMC implements a wedding feature I will go on a server of your choice and marry my wife with tosg attending.
however, it will only be on our anniversary so you may have to wait.
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>>147255529
It will never be implemented into the game.
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>>147253046
>>147254992

>t. can't use my cute pics.

Time to make more I guess while I farm 10k black metal bars
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>>147255456
>>147255165
>implying you make shekels after anon crashed the pot market with no survivors
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>>147255529
I wanna marry on the battlefield!
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>>147255145
What if he went for a normal int/con build until 280 and then bought a reset pot?
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>>147255908
>bought a stat reset pot
oh poor and innocent anon
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>>147255821
make me
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Would anyone be interested in having weekly mock up weddings? There is plenty of nice areas we could use and I feel pretty confident in my ability to lead them as a priest since I've attended like 50 by now.
Any cute couples want to get married? I'm not doing boys, sorry.
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>>147255987
>f2p poorfag does not have a bunch of them from EA packs
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>>147256073
it would be nice, you['d have to level a priest in fedi though.
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>>147256073
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>>147252127
Must one go Fletcher 3 for end game? I just like the female Cannoneer costume and can't seeing myself wearing Fletcher costume forever since I don't plan on buying TP costumes.
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>>147256180
I'm on Klaipeda, sorry. I should have probably mentioned that. I do have a Priest3 Pardoner with the Priest3 outfit though so I got looks covered.
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>>147256009
You're such a slut Moonie.
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>>147255712
Would you really want tosg to attend your wedding?
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What i have to do to convince this brute in giving me a Battle Bracelet?
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>>147256330
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>>147256350
marry it
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>>147256350
Kill 150 of them! That's the DPK ;)
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>>147256330
>moonie doing his samefag shitposting routine to try and stay relevant

kysmm
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>>147256226
follow your heart anon, cannoneer is very much viable endgame just not in any of the content that matters
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>>147255529
who's getting married though?
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>>147256424
>dating and marrying monsters/demons
FUCKING WHEN
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>>147256349
absolutely, no questions asked. I would invite tosg members living in the relative vicinity (i.e same country) if it happened before I started playing and there absolutely are tosgs from the country. After all, we're the ones the mythology of the game is based on!
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>>147256073
I think it's a great idea!
Saluus covent would be a nice place to host one.
Having a few squires set up tables for the reception would also be great
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>>147256128
>2 max
>a bunch of them
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@147 256 407
even had the filename ready as soon as the reply cooldown was up, step it up samecuck
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>>147256760
>@
fuck off with your low tier bait
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>>147256226
If you already have Fletcher in your build then yes, you really really should go Fletcher3. If you are making a new character and want to play Cannon most people would probably recommend Archer2 Sapper2 Wugu2 Cannon as probably the most meta archer AoE build. It doesn't quite have the AoE damage Elememe provides but it's very strong, a bit more bursty, and more than viable to do the current PvE endgame with
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>>147256991
>Archer2 Sapper2 Wugu2 Cannon
Stop giving bad advice.
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>>147257276
It's the best AoE damage build Archer has now that the SR Melstis combo got axed. If you want to play cannon in PvE it's the way to go.
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>>147255856
I think i'll be alright with all this dirty potion money
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Completely new to this general. I see a lot of people complaining that the game isn't as good as ro. Can somebody give me examples of what's wrong with it? It looks like it has a good skill system. The only problems I see are no cards and pinot a few skills per class
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>>147256760
>>147256407
Mia is not Moonie_
She's not, right?
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>>147257457
>2 Circles in Sapper just for Broomtrap
>2 Circles in Archer when poison (your main damage source) can't crit
>No Barrage
>No Circling
How about you play the game?
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>>147257750
>She
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>>147257742
There's no wedding feature
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One nightmare is over
Wake me up from 10 mithril farm nightmare
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>>147257742
Have you ever seen a general of people who DIDN'T complain about their game?
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That wasnt that thing i want. Wont complain though, i guess
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>>147257742
>It looks like it has a good skill system
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>>147258058
>filename
fine, I'll ask. what's the story here.
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>>147257783
>Barrage is garbage for AoE damage after like lv30.
>Circling isn't all that necessary when you have access to enough AoE Attack Ratio gear on cannon.
>Broomtrap and poisons both scale very well due to the insane number of hits they do.
How about you play the game?
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HOLY SHIT JUST 36 IPS WE'RE UN-FIGURATIVELY DEAD

>>147258009
grats capy? neet?
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>>147258348
>he forgot about last threads 120+
its ded hours anon, quit whining
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>>147256489
>>147256760
>>147257750
>>147256330
Im not moonies, not 'samefag' and posted that image with that filename before.

ANON PLS!!
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>>147257783
BroomTrap is strong damage and it doesn't fall off, it's literally the same for Elementalist, you take 3 circles for basically Frost Cloud only
Poison aren't the main source of damage, broom trap and cannon skill are, AIDS is a supplement
Ar2RangerWugu2FalconCannon is still a valid alternative but Archer2Sapper2Wugu2Cannon heavy DEX is better
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>>147258325
Thanks for proving you've never played with a wugu+cannon let alone played an archer.
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>>147258348
Capy
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>>147258604
Is that why every sapper wugu in the game I've met don't like that build?
>Poison aren't the main source of damage, broom trap and cannon skill are
Yeah you're retarded
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>>147258604
>Dex wugu
>Dex anything when you take Archer 2

I'm sorry, what? Isn't Archer 2 taken only for heavy STR builds for the Swift Step attribute? I'm genuinely asking
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>>147258604
I really wish IMC made cannoneer vs musketeer a DEX vs STR choice so you wouldn't have to go heavy dex on wugu build (even if it isn't wugu3)
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>>147257783
if you're not a wugu sapper, I'm kicking you out of my party for anything beyond alemeth
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>>147258771
the goddesses are proud of you! now farm one for my alt
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>>147258879
What makes you think I'd want to be in your party?

>>147258819
That guy is retarded, poison scales with STR so if you go DEX as a wugu your poisons will do shit damage. Swift Step scales with your Crit Rate, it's not a flat 25% crit chance.
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>>147258231
Meet up

Atom's band of fags

Lots of @ spamming to try and crash and lag people out
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>>147259184
"totally wasn't our guild, we wouldn't do that"
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>>147256745
On the first few days you could just ask valve to delete your DLC and then you could buy and redeem multiple packs.
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>>147258431
That was just my modem desynching. We're ded.
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>>147259928
Oh snap. You too?
my connection gets fucked each hour and im probably 40-50 IPs of most threads.
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Is CoffeeHouse full at the moment?
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>>147260137
Have you tried to pm Capyba?
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What's the usual price for Catacombs Pike recipes on Klaipedo?
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>>147260515
200k
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I'm buying 100 corpse hands in Klaipeda, paying with talt
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>>147260137
By name, we have a lot of inactives.

Post name and I'll make Capy get a spot for you cutie.
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>>147254776
Is there a similar list for archer/mage/cleric?
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>>147261134
u can't be srs ;_;
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>>147261218
>and I'll make Capy
>I'll make
Oh boy.
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>keep changing channels and reporting bot because i cant fucking complete a fucking quests

>meanwhile RO fucking pservers are free from bots

rly makes u think...
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>>147261412
max pricing fucked up alot of things anon
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>>147261571
rly make u think why u still here my man

just kys already
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>>147261571
I'm not even sure what number to type myself. That fucking sentence makes no sense.
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>Koenig will get into a drunken stupor and beat you up for all the times you bullied her

why am I even alive
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>>147261575
I don't understand the market system.
Half the time I try to put something in I either have to raise it or it'll adjust it on me before telling me the listing price.
Add in the having to wait two days to get the money...
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remind me again anons, what do I do at 200-210 basically before alameth?

should I still save cards?
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>>147261504
What? Capy is easy to bully.
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>>147261890
Just quest and card, don't fall for the saving cards meme. You have to grind the same amount regardless.
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>>147261890
do 190 dungeon until youre bored
or card to 210
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>>147261889
i want to play ro again but renewal
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>>147261775
Something Something bot prevention
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>>147262048
>>147262075
I have never grinded before, even on my main, I did not want to avoid the grind I just wanted to go R7 asap on my first character, was really disappointed with Dragoon, so I tried a cannoneer

based on your experience, lads, how long would it take to grind from 210-216 in alameth? i mean an estimate?
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>>147261694
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>>147262129
Renewal is fun Anon trust me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkcvtrxwfCM&feature=youtu.be

Big WoE today too :3
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>>147262262
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>>147262293
Six hours
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>>147262360
>iro
HAHA no
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>>147262375
>>147262262
>>147261775
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>>147261248
cleric: take c2 cleric for top tier
wizard: elememe top tier, necro and supports mid tier, any mix shit tier
archer: fletcher or bust
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>>147262293
Alementh is very fast if you have a competent party, which isn't hard to find in my experience. probably 2 sessions of grinding.
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>>147262471
>cleric: take c2 cleric for top tier
What about the rest?
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>>147262293
About an hour per level in the average party. If you just want to hit R7 quickly though you can card all the way there if you pick up some of the higher level zones' exploration cards.
Basically the way it works is that you always have a good grind spot from lv210 onwards. You will grind with a penalty from 248 to 252 so if you like you can save some cards to skip that part (takes about 50m I think? can look it up), but other than that just blow through them whenever you feel like it. Even if you don't have any cards for the 248-252 part left it's still not a big deal, you just have to move on to the next zone slightly earlier or grind with a small exp penalty, it's not going to add more than a couple hours either way.
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>>147262386
I see, well I expected worst

>>147262492
what do you mean 2 sessions of grinding?
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>>147262616
sorry, I meant 4-6 hours. that's how long each grinding party lasted for me, but as I submitted it seemed really unclear to me, sorry. EVAC(CANEER DOOOOOOOOM) and storage take much longer, so if you only want rank 7 wait or kToS's quests.
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>>147262596
Does this mean that I could reach 224 from 200 by simply carding with level 9 - 11 cards?
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>>147262442
>private server babbies
not even once
rather play renewal than crowd in with private server players
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>>147262262
I mean, I guess it works? Kinda?

>>147262559
>Diev3
You have a big dick and want to support a party while not being a passive healbitch.
>Priest3
You're probably a passive healbitch or a jew
>Pardoner
You're a jew
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>>147262741
Yes but it'll take all the cards
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>>147262740
>EVAC(CANEER DOOOOOOOOM

what does this mean anon? am I fucked? im a sapper and wugu too and when it came to flying shit I'm always on a pinch
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>>147262741
you can card+quest from 205 to ~230
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>>147262754
>Diev3
>not being a passive healbitch

>puts down statues and AFK
The class literally screams passive betamaster.
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>>147262741
you will have to both:
1. do every single quest all the way to the 232 map (not hard)
2. complete every single monster kill requirement up to the 232 map (hard)
to have enough cards to do so without fucking up your future
>>147262841
It's from CAVE's game Ketsui. The "true last boss" is named EVACCANEER DOOM (in caps yes)
sorry for confusing you so much. Evac is comfy, storage is hell, abbey is somewhat comfy again.
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>>147262741
Yes, if you really want to you can do that. If you didn't grind Alemeth at all you will probably burn through a bunch of the cards you would usually want to save for the 248-252 jump, but it's not a particularly big deal and I did it on 2 of my characters. The more cards you save for that part the less you have to deal with the exp penalty, but to be perfectly honest it's not going to matter in the long run. Just do what you feel you want to do, if it's just getting R7 and your new skills as soon as possible go ahead
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>>147262336
does english tos have eye colors yet?
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>>147262892
>Carving your own rape statues
>Not alpha as fuck, especially with Druid and PD
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>>147262841
>when it came to flying shit I'm always on a pinch
Retard
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/31102
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>>147262745
>iro
i preffer to play nothing, iro is pure shit
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>>147262997
Nope, but hopefully later this month or the next
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>>147262812
I dont mind really, after reaching Rank 7 I just want to relax and farm things while watching a movie, thats really what I'm looking forward to, just mindlessly killing mobs left and right until i get Avgara while watching Step brothers

>>147262851
I'm assuming I have to eat the cards as I get them because of the level reqs?

>>147262935
thanks mate, all I could remember during my first road from 200-224 was the archers

Its alright, I jsut thought you meant cannoneer doom

>>147262991
thanks mate, really appreciate it, I'd probably keep a pace upon reaching R7, 1- 1.5 levels a day would be okay for me, I just want to see how R7 goes

>>147263065
but I'm still a sapper/wugu, not yet a cannoneer
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>>147262754
>Diev 3
>Literally you can only use owls and carve world tree
>The rest is either bugged, not used or used better by Kabbalists, SP potions and Chronomancers
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>>147262935
>2. complete every single monster kill requirement up to the 232 map (hard)
Nah, you don't have to bother with any kill quests at all. Just doing all the quests and explorations should usually be enough to get you to around 227ish if you didn't save a whole lot of cards before then and did minimal grinding in the 160 range. Doing that means you will have to stay at Evac/Igti for longer than you really want to since nobody is going to take someone underleveled to Storage, but losing some time there isn't a big deal in my opinion when it means getting your fun R7 stuff days earlier.
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>>147262754
What about sadhi, monk etc. Are those even usefull in parties or will I be stuck soloing and ultimately quitting or rerolling?
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>>147263150
>I'm assuming I have to eat the cards as I get them because of the level reqs?
yep. no more card saving if you want to card to R7.
you dont have to do kill counts. only do them if you want.
but some high lvl map 100% are nice.
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Any necromancer here ? How's the summon AI compared to sorc's ts ?
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>Wugusapperscannon are here again
What is the meme behind this?
From where this shit build came from?
Is there on the internet a single video of an iToS Sapperwugucannon?
Also, if we are going to get kToS Steady Aim any Archer without Ranger3 is reroll tier.
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>>147263371
thank you so much mate, I wish you luck for all dungeons to come
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>>147263258
you want those extra cards so you can card from 247 to 252 and 262 to 265. you really, really want them. badly.
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How does storage work for my base camp tent? It seems like it's broken or something.
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>>147262460
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>>147263467
It's a popular meme in kToS, aside from 6f with all the poison types it wrecks in ET, especially on the floors with Ice mobs since Elememe struggles there.
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>>147263372
give return stone 2 overheat
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>>147263467
you've got it backwards, they're getting our nerfs with rank8.
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>>147263505
262-265 is just fine at Storage, there is no point in carding that. You don't hit an exp penalty of any kind at those levels, not sure what you are talking about. It's also not a big deal to not have any cards to get to 252, I've done it twice without now and don't think you even really lose any time there since carding early means you get to the better exp spots faster and can drop Alemeth much quicker.
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>>147263467
I personally do know anything about the meta about wugusapcan, I just want to be some kind of an engineer, bringing all these stuff with the gadgets and making things go boom
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>>147263246
Statues aren't bugged and they are amazing everywhere but no torch defense grinding
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nnnn
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What's the best flecher status distribution if I don't have a linker cuck ?
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>>147263507
it doesn't seem broken it is broken. it worked exactly like regular storage when it worked last month. now it doesn't work at all.
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>>147263372
put Bone Necklace Poata at Torch phase
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>>147263561
And how they roll there? STR or for some reason DEX?
Because people seems to be confused on the fact poisons love STR but maybe i am missing something
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>>147263863
I've heard that if you go solo it should be 1Str:1Dex but I'm starting to doubt it
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>>147263246
>The rest is either bugged
One single one is bugged and that's fixed by weapon swapping.
>Not stacking pass and laima
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Found a fucking bot wearing a battle bracelet.
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>>147263507
Not sure what's different now but tried drag and drop from it? Right clicking doesn't work.
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>>147263372
fix bugs and dont ignore forum bug reports

FFS mage tower guild mission
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>>147263990
>One single one is bugged and that's fixed by weapon swapping
explain
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>>147263372
Above all else the loot system in this game has really killed it for me.

Saalus Convent for instance is a complete joke as of now. You wade through what, five difficult bosses, and you only get one talt cube at the end? And you can only run it twice a day IF YOU PAID FOR A TOKEN?

Call me insane but I think every boss in that place needs to drop a cube. The recipes are all untradable and the chance of even getting what you want is astronomically low.
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>>147263985
Not sure to be honest.I feel like you want a healthy amount of crit just because of how much base damage your cannon skills bring to the table but your poison obviously doesnt benefit from that. Maybe 1Str:2Dex or something, no idea.
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>>147264147
Not only that but mats for both are a pain to farm/very expensive
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>>147263372
>market restriction
you guys are so dull. is your brain fried or what? half of the classes have skills which don't work and you're talking about jewing on the market. lemme tell you something people quit cause their class doesn't work and is totally gimp not cause they can't jew on the market

ktos content including buffs class like swordsman need like skyliner zero cd
********************increased spawn rate like in korea*********************
party event
et past 7
etc

you'll be playing the game by yourself if you think others give a shit about market in anything but an afterthought.
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>>147264034
well yeah, they've got automated bot parties for arde and automated botting for most expensive drops (e.g. mithril or battle bracelet)

They've got enough bracelets that they can comfortably wear them whilst waiting to sell their few dozen others.
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>>147264147
>waaaaah I want everything ez and for free
kys casual wow babby
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How am I supposed to buy a Catacombs Pike after this pricing change? Talt? Items?
I'm desperate for one and Manticen isn't going to give me one. Send help.
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>>147264147
Saalus is noob bait, that has been said since it got released in kTOS
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>>147263372
MOUSE OPTIMIZATION

SOMETIMES I JUST WANT TO MOVE NOT SHOOT WHILE WALKING """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""REALLY REALLY REALL SLOW""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>147264147
I was planning to beg them to make saalus drops tradeable between your account, at least the recipes. I think that makes a fine balance between getting fuck-all to great stuff. the more 240+ characters you have, the more likely you are to get your drop.
>>147264361
fuck the increased spawn rate and shitty balancing. give me something genuine to ask about, shit like broken guild events. they asked me what the community as a whole thinks about the game and very clearly the market shit is something most find annoying at least and extremely disruptive at most.
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>>147254513

When you switch maps you lose the C def but yeah, you keep the +% from the big plate set.

but on city, it works like charm. There's a shinobi here in silute who is so mad at me because I can tank his hook hexen combos thanks to this def setup and oneshot him after
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>>147264272
Shouldn't 2:1 STR/DEX+crit gear be better?
Somehow maybe should do the math and clear things up about this memewugu
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>no one in /tosg/ has 2 pieces of lologear

why /tosg/ is so shit
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>>147264543

i've been telling people that since there were only like 10 people that could run it and no one believd me
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>>147264581
you're stupid as shit. it's cause you're a loud dumb minority who is autistic. those 50k peak players didn't leave cause they can't trade on the market they left cause there isn't spawns, the class they play is broken, they have nothing to do since everything is bugged AND the game is laggy as fuck.

imc is so shit cause we get morons like you giving them advice. just totally fucking clueless about what people want besides their own limited shit interests.
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>>147264446
>can't buy the recipes
>can't trade for the recipes
>can only run it once per day IF you get a group for it, twice if you bought a token
>JUST GIT GUD LOL
That is some post you made my lad
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>>147264547
any idea how to implement this? I agree with it, but they would ask for clarification and a suggestion for an improvement for it.
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>>147264763
you're not helping your cause at all. instead of going
>waaaaah he disagreed with me I'll call him autistic, dumb clueless and retarded because he disagreed with me
convince me why it's actually important because obviously I don't think it is. don't forget they're already aware of many of the bugs and the need for optimization.
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>>147264128
Laima has some weird bug where it doesn't apply to the first spell cast and using either zemyna or weapon swapping refreshes it.
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>>147264508
How much did it cost before the market pricing shoah?
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This has been bothering me ever since it was level 2. How do you end up with 50 exp on a card?
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>>147256009
>>147256407

60 anchors later.
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>>147264508
Last one I saw before they were all gone was 2.3m. They've gone from anywhere between 2.1 to 3.5 un-upgraded.
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>>147265027
By using cards that aren't level 1 as sacrifice.
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>>147265124
How is a card not level 1?
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>>147265056
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>>147265056
cute!
thanks
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>>147265214
>>147265124

Oh wait you mean higher level cards don't give even experience. I was thinking some sort of level 0 card.
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>>147264993
like i care? if imc wants to commit suicide listening to some autistic person talking about the market then this game is already finished. if they aren't getting people smart enough to talk about the real issues regular players have then i'll just move on.

>I CAN'T BE A JEW ON THE MARKET!@!#@
>why don't you go kill them and farm it yourself?
>STUPID DID YOU SEE THE SPAWN RATE OF THOSE?
>why not increase the spawn rate so people can kill things and enjoy the game while solving the market issue to a certain degree?
>MUH MARKET MUH MARKET MUH MARKET
dumb and autistic as fuck.
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>>147265340
1 gives 100 exp
2 gives 150 exp
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>>147265056
Would you consider making a boy
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>go cleric because from gameplay videos seemed like they could level on their own and I could turn my brain off for random grind since free healing
>cleric in parties are fucking nannies taking care of kids juggling cyanide pills, forks on sockets and running around with scissors on each hand
>You also gotta be tank and dps because your tank think he's a dps and your dps is afk

Yeah, like hell
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@147265353
why bother replying if you're gonna go full ooga
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>>147263293
Please respond.
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>>147265552

NEVER

Maybe later my friend. Boys aren't cute, you know.
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>>147265834
>cleric in parties are fucking nannies taking care of kids juggling cyanide pills, forks on sockets and running around with scissors on each hand
Yes, it gets worse in higher level maps
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>>147265849
>sadhu
>Monk
>good
>support
You know the drill.
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>>147263293
>>147265849
monk is STR and is a """"damage"""" class, in limbo between doing barely enough and shitty damage, its C3 needs a rework
sadbu is shit, mostly utility after its nerf in iCBT(2? 1?)
what else, I will (You) you with shitty wisdom (except if you aks about bokor)
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>>147265056
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>>147266147
>2 pairs of eyebrows

lol
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>>147266147
please complete it with the hands and possibly a positive pregnancy test variant.
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>>147266126
Icbt2 I believe, if not on Korean open beta
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>>147266396
thank you, kOBT build is icbt2.
I hope you'll get that drop tomorrow!
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>>147265849
Sadhu and Monk are not terribly useful in parties since all they bring is rather mediocre damage, and Monks in particular have a reputation for being played by idiots and "im dps not support" types.
But if you're reasonably diligent in your support duties, nobody is going to complain.
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>>147264741
Coffee ET Party#2 soon
Need a chrono and an elememe
Party #1 has already it on farm.
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>>147265056
>>147266262
Need one with heart pupils.
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>>147266126
So all str-based cleric subjobs are reroll tier?
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>>147266147
tehehe cute too. saved it
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>>147266262
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/tosg/, which are the moderately easiest Headgears you can get?
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>>147266669
What sort of developmental problems do you have Mia?
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>>147266628
>all
There's only one. Paladin is more of a hybrid that have whatever do us it wants; physical aggressor, support or a mix of both (or even Jew after by selling Barrier scrolls)
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>>147266836
You can farm muscharia hat in 10 minutes.
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>>147263372
SPAWN RATES
GUILD EVENTS FIX
CLASES FIX
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>>147266802
Nice
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>>147266870
it's called too cute
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>>147266923
It's also as ugly as ur mum's arsehole
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>>147266997
nice
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>>147266836
maple leaf or kepa hat
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>>147266836
Googles
Most trasure chests recipes
Chupacabra
Whit flower hairpin
Black Angel Wings
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>>147266870
Anon please. This is a no bully zone.

>>147266997
naah, not that good. not saved.
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How do I get there?
My ocd is killing me, I must 100% the map.
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>>147267193
>Using illegal add ons
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>>147263372
This >>147266963
Also class balance pls >>147266997
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>>147267193
Use Seal of Space
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>>147266910
Well that's unfortunate. I hope by the time I get to high level they'll fix them and I wont have to reroll.
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>>147267147
That pose and smile, it's too much
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>>147267270
they already mentioned class balance parity is happening, it was 1/3 of my original letter to them
I'll mention the spawn rates for you.
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>>147267147
I didn't edit it for you betch
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>>147267193
You get an item from a quest later on to access that part.
The real OCD issues will be at royal mausoleum 4f and sanctuary
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>>147266487
I'm only posting ITT, I'll come back to the game when we get that beeg update
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Can we have some lewd?
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>>147267435
I'll be waiting for you, anon. see you then! ^_^
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>>147267581
Sure!
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>>147267581
sure
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>>147267581
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>>147267581
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>>147267404
Game is still far from being properly balanced though. I mean shit like reworking some classes that won't be touched on ktos, like Ranger, Highlander and Doppel(specifically the c2 skills).
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>>147267581
of whom?
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>>147264741
Why don't you get one and show us how its done?
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>>147267817
of cow
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>>147263372
Fucking improve itemization of low-mid levels, and of the overall game too. I'm not asking to make random drops like Diablo, just make more items give shit like Cafri bonus or make equipment who change more than just give you +stat and have some irrelevant gimmick.
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Lewd out!
Cute in!
Lewd out!
Cute in!
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>>147267959
easier if i have refs
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>>147268042
Koreans are cute, right?
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>>147263372
REMOVE

DPK
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>>147268042
Lewd here.
I will leave for now.
Lewd out.
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>>147268042

Lewd in!
Cute out!
Lewd in!
Cute out!
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>>147267776
I've heard a lot of complaints about swordsman, but I haven't really heard much about doppel2 specifically. I'll have to ask you to be more specific.
>>147268034
thank you, I was planning to talk about itemization. I do have a feeling it has to do with the planned "500 levels", but cafri needs to be nerfed/changed and more lower level items need to be unique, and more low-level items need to happen in general. It's something I'm sure IMC overlooked so I do not mind mentioning it.
>>147268191
DPK is a meme.
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>>147268190
>That dark red hair
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>>147267776
I wish they'd put sections for each class and circle, so we don't get shit like QS that is worthless for c1/c2, Sadhu that is only worth for c2 or pelt only worth for c1.
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>>147268348
By sections I mean key skills. I'm alright if every class rank has a strong point. Maybe Pelt C1 if you only want taunt, C2 if you want taunt and something like a counter attack on blocks, c3 if you want something like a strong attribute that makes you take lower magic damage while blocking, for example. Right now what you get isn't worth it.
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>>147268541
>>147268348
I will mention this, thank you for your input.
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If Germany wins, I'll rape Mia.
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>>147268856
germany already won 1-0 bro
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Jinsae on suicide watch.
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>>147269149
what happened to the wind god?
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>>147269063

1x1 now
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>>147268856
Anon, No!
>>147269063
eww
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>>147269217
He was calling the wind god with his arms too much
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Resist Elements in kToS reduces elemental demage by a % now. But for some reason they didn't remove the old shitty flat elemental buff (and its attribute).
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Feel when your ToS crush finally logs on.
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>>147266518
Party 1 not coffee party.
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>>147263372
Fuck off with your roleplay bullshit, and nobody cares about your market. The game makes it nearly impossible to play with friends for 200 levels of questing, but luckily you'll never have any, so cry more about how you can't piss everyone off by buying out all the dragon dildos to relist them for twice as much.
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>>147269739
recent market changes are a major issue
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>>147269620
Feel when cockblocked
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>>147267053
Don't be hating.
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>>147266836
Flower hairpin
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>>147267256
>illegal addons
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>>147269620
Feel when crush talks to me
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>>147266147
IT WAS ME ! MOONIE !
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>>147270428
Fuck off
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>>147269739
I genuinely don't understand why you're so defensive about your opinion, just say it outright and more clearly without so much fluff around it. either way,
>>147269971
I'll mention this.
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Grynas up
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>>147270618
Make grinding an equally viable option
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>>147270428
>>147266147
>>147265056
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>>147269636
Most of the party is coffee
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>>147271198
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>>147271513
go away evergarden
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>guild tells me 7-up is better than Sprite
>buy a 7-up
>it isn't
mothercucking disinfo agents
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>>147271492
only Neet is.
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>>147271787
>Drinking soda
Ewwwwww
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>>147271787
Drink water
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>>147271787
Coca-cola>All
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>>147272085
>>147271975
gain weight
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>>147270428
Please do not abuse the caps lock in my name!
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10 levels long and the girth is 80%

how big is your flesh cannon?
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>>147271787
>Baby mountain dew

If you're gonna drink soda at least do it right.
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>>147272139
this desu
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>>147272248
shut up mia
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>>147272331
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>>147271198
https://a.pomf.cat/ibzfsx.gif
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>>147272372
But Mia has no Pelta Star.
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>>147272474
delete this
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>>147272474
FP comfirmed "the" ERP guild
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>>147272648
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>>147272141
Better dead than being fat like you
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>>147272483
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>>147269486
>everyone getting their flat bonuses turned into scaling ones
>meanwhile, the best Thaumas get is a +25 matk.
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>>147272336
You mean dew it right?
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>>147272483
Ehhw gross. Almost like boys...
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>>147272474

beERP is the greatest thing to ever happen to tosg.
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>>147269486
>Resist Elements in kToS reduces elemental demage by a % now.
Sounds awful. Def can't be negative anymore? Hope you're just memeing or it's just in pvp.
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>>147272928
Thaum buffs soon!
Don't give up hope!
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>>147272928
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>>147273226
I'm talking about the paladin skill.
Before it just buffed elemental property resistances.
Now it also reduces elemental damage by Skill Level * 2.5 % apparently.
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>>147272928

what, thaumas got a mini quickcast on swell head already, lol
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>>147273509
what?
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>>147273587
HAHA

MISINFO'D
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>>147272248
>haven't logged in for a little while
>you start holding hands with chronos
I knew you were a slut after all.
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>>147273686
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I just made m-my first 800k!
Should I buy a token or an Arde Dagger? I'm not sure which one would be more useful.
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>>147273423
>reduces elemental damage
I'm dumb, I thought you said it reduced resistance by a % instead of by a flat number.
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>>147273796

token, then sell all the trash that you have (matts and shit) asap
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wtf is this shit?
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>>147273971
>Doesn't know

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/klaipeda-guild-battle-league-week-2-starts-july-8th/292135
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>>147273971
Huh. We really are getting new players.
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Shitty mystery
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>>147273796
I saw a few tokens for 350k on Klai anon better grab them fast
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>>147274024
>>147273971
I like how our battle meet up was the most alive we've ever been
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>>147274250
>a massive bird attacking Rance.jpg
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>>147274250
Look at all the cowsluts
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>she made a QS3
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>>147273746
Chronomancers are cute and pure!
holding hands with Chronomancers is cute!
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>at work being a wageslave while afk farming on my necro
>work as a server administrator for a web hosting company
>one of the agents under me uses maymay arrows to quite customers in ticket replies to them
>also spells "discuss" "discus"
I can't decide if I should take action against this or just sit back and see what happens.
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>>147273971
The most autistic retard in the game. A real shameless person who gives everyone in his guild a bad name.
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Guys, I need some feedback. I've been theorycrafting around this Archer build based on optimizing Strike Damage to get the maximum benefit out of Wiz1's lethargy debuff, and this is the best I've come up with.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314559aa.15244551.15243145.112a3741516575.152535.1a24314a55

Key features about this build:

>Rogue1 + Sapper2 for Double Broom Trap if need be
>Ranger1 + SR2 for Retreat Shot + Steady Aim Melstis Meme
>Rogue1 + Ranger1 for Feint + Barrage for single target burst or medium-aoe burst potential

I know a huge con of this build is the need to mount and unmount constantly to go through your rotation, but I think if you can handle the mounting mechanics this build has some insane aoe potential. We're talking numbers that Elememe3's can only dream about.
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>>147274250
>Get excited to be in a screenshot with everyone at a meetup.
>tfw bird covers face.

Maybe next time.
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>>147274664
But Moonie_ is mine [/spolier]
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I-is Mia going to get raped now
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>>147274806
The dungeon dismount disappearing hoglano bug ruins this build. You might be able to pull it off in open world, I dunno.
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>>147274869
I got you Kinte!
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>>147274897

I think there's an addon that lets you deactivate and reactivate your companion instantly with a macro, so if that happens and you to remount instantly you can use that.
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Are you comfy /tosg/?
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>>147270618
He's a 4chan shitposting false flagging autist, but he has a point. There are lots of people who want higher spawn rates. If you were really trying to be the "community's voice" or whatever, you'd mention it. But you aren't, because you don't personally feel like it's an issue.

Not condemning you, but that's what's going on.

In my personal opinion - ask them about making grinding just as viable as questing. That includes an increased spawn rate, increased monster XP, and better itemization so that the monsters I'm fighting can potentially drop something nice.

Also, and this will be complicated, but I'll try to explain. Pic related. Instead of a progression of levels, make maps each be part of level ranges. Not 1-2-3-4-5, but 1-1-3-3-5-5, sort of thing.

Any player should be able to progress on their character by achieving any one of a number of goals. For instance, there should be a substantial EXP card reward for completing a map's collection, in addition to the stats. Enough that by completing 1-2 collections, you can get to 85.

Monster kill counts should give more XP cards than they currently do, so that if I want to complete kill counts on 4-5 maps, I can get to level 85. Kill counts take substantially longer to do than quests, so I should be able to level up by doing them.

Monsters in general should give more XP, so that if I want to grind on one map, I can do that.

Also, though this is separate and fairly controversial, I'd actually lower the XP gain rate a fair bit, and add more equipment breakpoints (instead of level 40 then level 75, make it level 40, then 55, then 75, for instance). Add more equipment and itemization options. Increase the overall difficulty of the game to encourage partying. They need to make the journey worthwhile, because it's by far the worst part of the game as-is. And that's horrible, because it's the entire game.

Also increase dungeon entry limits by 1 or 2, and add more useful stuff in dungeon cubes.
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>>147274884
thats moonie anon
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>>147275004
That's not how that bug works. You get stuck in some weird bastard child state of mounted/dismounted where your pet keeps appearing under you and disappearing again and you can't use any mounted skills. Dismounting, unsummoning, mounting, etc, none of it fixes it. You're just useless for the rest of that dungeon.
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>>147274953
This reminds me after iCBT2 we had an austistic anon go through the hour-long recording to get everyone's name and add them to the screenshot.
Thanks austist-anon.
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>>147274806
Melstis doesn't work with 2nd line buffs like Retreat Shot anymore in kToS so whenever we get brought up to what they have consider that synergy gone.
You say you can handle the mounting mechanics, but have you actually played a mounted class in this game? It's buggy as fuck and isn't going to work the way you think it is.
That build is dumb as fuck to be honest and wouldn't do very well at all. You are simply taking anything that has a strike modifier without taking into consideration your own archer synergies at all.
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>>147275048
It's already easy to reach 280 even though we're missing quests and you want to make it even easier? This game is already casual as fuck.
Kill yourself.
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>>147273746
Well if you logged in and held my hand instead!
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>>147275104

Shit, does this happen only if you mount/dismount? Or can this just happen anytime if you roll a mounted class?

>>147275240

Is retreat shot a second-line buff? My SR2 uses it and its still considered a first-line buff. I know running shot is a second line buff though.

I have an A2 QS3 SR2, and I constantly dismount to use Pavise. I find the mounting mechanics to not be that big of an issue, but it is fucking annyoing when my pet runs off to be one-shotted and I have to wait for him to be unstunned.
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>>147275396
I'm pretty sure I've had it happen randomly once or twice. The most common cause is death for me, since I'm not running some autistic dismount build. I won't be surprised if dismounting can cause it, but I'm not going to go and purposefully bug myself out in a dungeon just to confirm something for the build we already told you is crap.
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>>147275520

I've been running the 175 and 190 dungeon for a good period of time and never ran into it, if that's the case then A2 R3 SR2 shouldn't be viable for Earth Tower either, but I assume it doesn't happen that often.
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>>147275609
I'm pretty sure you're lying, because I've never spoken to any SR that didn't know exactly what I was talking about.

If you aren't you should probably go buy a lotto ticket.
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>>147263372
>Unavailable in the current map.
>Unavailable in the current map.
>Unavailable in the current map.

>Unavailable in the current map.
>Unavailable in the current map.

>Unavailable in the current map.
>Unavailable in the current map.
>Unavailable in the current map.
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>>147273746
There's no hand holding going on there
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>>147275320
>i love waiting for kill monsters and running across empty maps, but HATE having to trade manually without using a market XDD
kiss yourself you autistic retard
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>>147275696

Hasn't happened to me yet, so I really don't know. I've been fine with dropping Deploy Pavise every chance I get in dungeons.
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>>147275867
What the fuck are you even on about you casual baby?
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>>147275320
I literally said to make it harder to reach 280, my man. Read the post again. I want to add multiple WAYS to get to 280, and to decrease the linear nature of the game.
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>>147275992
you aren't good. you're the casual baby. you're so trashy and such a wow baby you whine about the market while pretending you love to wait for 2 minute respawn and empty maps.

>I'm so hardcore about grinding, but damn if i can't use a market for ez money and trades then the world is over!
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>>147274670
>one of the agents under me uses maymay arrows to quite customers in ticket replies to them
But > is the standard quote sign in electronic messages since ever.
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>>147275348
No its alright, this could be your punishment..
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>>147275520

Alright, guess I'm throwing the build into the scrapper then.
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>>147276185
Where did I ever whine about the market you retard? You should honestly kill yourself

>>147276091
>Monster kill counts should give more XP cards
>Monsters in general should give more XP
>there should be a substantial EXP card reward for completing a map's collection
>increased spawn rate
The only thing you said that most people will agree on is that the game needs better itemization. When they add new quests it'll just make reaching 280 that much faster.
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>>147276297
Millennials never used BBS.
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>Level 180
>Only now discovers that dungeon runs are not account wide

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>147276653
It's used by default when you reply to e-mails too. Have they never used email either? Have they used Aim/Skype/ICQ/Kik/Line/YIM/etc all their lives?
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>>147276691
Shhh, don't give IMC ideas.
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>>147276859
people should complain until they make dungeons runs per dungeon again.
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>>147276297
Once upon a time, yes. Now, those are only really applied by email quote strings automatically. The customer won't know what it means.

You're not wrong, but that's not really applicable at this stage. I picked up on it when the customer kept asking why he was doing it, somehow not realizing that the text after it was stuff he'd written himself.

Also the dude wore a literal touhou shirt to work 2 days ago so I mean yeah.
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>>147276596
>Also, though this is separate and fairly controversial, I'd actually lower the XP gain rate a fair bit
You missed this part, brother.

>When they add new quests it'll just make reaching 280 that much faster.
I don't want to reach 280 faster, I want to have fun playing the game. I don't care that they're extending the conveyor belt another 60 levels, because there's nothing even at the end of it. If the journey is all that matters, why don't I get to walk?
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>>147276338
I'd rather a different kind of punishment to be honest.
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>>147275046
Yuckari wants the milk so bad you can see it in his face
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>>147277187
>Also the dude wore a literal touhou shirt to work 2 days ago so I mean yeah.
I mean ignoring everything else, why would one associate Touhou with 4chan?

Think about it. Do you associate Vocaloid with 4chan? Type Moon with 4chan? RO?
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Should I use Rods or Hammers as a Diev? ;_;
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I want to marry a handsome musketeer!
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>>147277537
>Vocaloid
Yes.
>Type Moon
Yes.
>RO
Less so, but yeah.

How many people do you really think are touhou fans that aren't also 4chan users? Like, be honest with yourself here.

Also ignoring everything else is kinda beside the point, since dank maymay arrows was the point in the first place.

Also we're off topic as fuck at this point. Post cows or something, I'm still stuck here for like 6.5 more hours.
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>>147277580
hammers so you can get carve damage
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>>147277307
>Also, though this is separate and fairly controversial, I'd actually lower the XP gain rate a fair bit
Then what's the point in suggesting they increase exp rewards? Don't you understand that this game isn't meant to end at lv.280? Maybe if there was no hope for r8 and no hope for IMC to increase max levels and maybe if it was actually a challenge to reach r7 or lv.280 then you can suggest making leveling easier. Just so you know there's also a lot of people who prefer grinding than the themepark style of leveling ToS currently has.
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>>147277452
>yuckari
>cuckari
>yucucki
this makes me so weet
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>>147277865
Yes we know you're addicted to cuckoldry Moonie
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>>147277739
>How many people do you really think are touhou fans that aren't also 4chan users?
I should probably have included "in the US."
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>>147277865
i wonder who is behind this post
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>>147278153
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>>147277865
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>>147278308
>i don't put him attention and thats all
>shitty drama of low quiality i preffer vallha drama
Every fucking time.
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>>147278153
>>147277984
>>147278308
not him. moonie doesn't have a monopoly on this stuff
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>>147278308
Wow she's such a teaste
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>>147278308
How can you spend so much time on English websites yet be so terrible at speaking it. Blows my mind.
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>>147278308
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>>147278476
>Just focus your braincells
EVERY time.
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>>147278308
I don't know how I should feel about this. Is Yuckani... mentally ill?
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>>147278535
she is a frog so yes
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>>147278308
>>147278446
>>147278426
>>147278357

don't bully the dumb please
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>>147278476
*I slap your ass*
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>>147278535

It's the voices.
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>>147278476
>I slap your ass
>weet weet
>buzz buzz
TOSG INCHARGE OF ERPING HAHAHAHAHAHA

OH MY GOD EVEN MY 10 YEAR OLD SISTER CAN COME UP WITH BETTER SHIT THAN THIS
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>>147277424
Thats a lewd picture, kitten.
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>>147278619
i wish my tos crush was protective of me like you 're to yuckani
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>>147278730
>MY 10 YEAR OLD SISTER
Can I erp irl with her?
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>>147278915
Na she's mine. I have another who's 16, you can have that one.
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>>147278915
You can find plenty of 10 year old ERPers over at gaia
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>>147278730
>OH MY GOD EVEN MY 10 YEAR OLD SISTER

tell me more anon
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>>147279021
She's probably cuter than the 10 year old. Thanks anon!
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>>147277761
>Then what's the point in suggesting they increase exp rewards?
Increase the EXP rewards for killing monsters, doing collections, and completing kill counts. Decrease EXP rewards overall.

Come on, this isn't difficult. The math is so simple. The idea is to improve the ratio between grinding / other stuff and questing, but to increase the time it takes to level overall. It was separate because the most important part is the ratio.

I'm trying to be civil but it's like I'm trying to explain basic concepts to a brick wall.

>then you can suggest making leveling easier.
I have never once suggested making leveling easier. I have suggested making grinding viable and offering multiple avenues of experience gain.

>Just so you know there's also a lot of people who prefer grinding than the themepark style of leveling ToS currently has.
Yes, exactly, so they should be able to grind and achieve a half-decent XP rate. People who want to hunt drops for collections should be able to level up at a half-decent rate. People who want to just do the kill counts should be able to level up at a half-decent rate. All of this stuff takes much MORE time than questing but gives much LESS XP.
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How does AoE ratio works?

ie with Zaibas, if I get a hat that gives +1 Aoe Ratio it means that Zaibas will hit 2 monsters? Or that is just for Physical Attacks?
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>>147279247
http://wiki.tosbase.com/wiki/AoE_Attack_and_Defense_Ratio
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>>147279247
Enemy AoE defense ratio subtracts from your attack ratio. If there is more than 1 attack ratio left, then the attack hits the next monster till 0 ratio is left.

Clerics have a default AoE attack ratio of 3, which would hit 3 small monsters, or 1 medium + 1 small, or 2 medium. Zaibas can only hit one target unless you have the splash attribute from circle 2. The skill has a set hit limit though, so Zaibas 10 can hit one monster 14 times, or 3 monsters about 4 times. Basically its bad for mobbing.
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/xh019xr77biz5ku/Bossanova+Jam.mp3
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>>147279198
If you think the exp you gain from questing is more than the exp you get from grinding then you must be low level. First of all the exp card reward for kill counts shouldn't even exist but it does, and it makes grinding mobs from map to map worth while.

>The idea is to improve the ratio between grinding / other stuff and questing
>so they should be able to grind and achieve a half-decent XP rate
Grinding with a party is the most efficient way to gain exp. There are also plenty of events you can abuse for this.

>People who want to hunt drops for collections should be able to level up at a half-decent rate
You just want to be rewarded for every single thing you do. I can clearly see where you're coming from. Don't try to act like you want to raise the games difficulty by suggesting this because it doesn't.
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dad
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>>147281057
What do you want son? Wearing your sisters clothes again I see.
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>>147281057
DADDY*
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>>147281112
>tfw my father thinks I'm a normal guy and doesn't knows that I'm really addicted to crossdressing and flirting with guys
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>>147280118
>Don't try to act like you want to raise the games difficulty by suggesting this because it doesn't.
I don't want to be rewarded for "every single thing". I want to be rewarded for several different things, where now questing is the only option. You've falsely portrayed my side of things. Most likely a strawman.

>If you think the exp you gain from questing is more than the exp you get from grinding then you must be low level.
Ad hominem. Furthermore, even if I were part of the low-level demographic, I posit that that's the majority demographic, and definitely the demographic IMC needs to pander to. The game's lost 40k players in a matter of weeks. You seriously think they all thought, "wow, I sure loved questing to 280, but the market just turns me off of this game so much!". No, they all quit at low levels.

The single EXP card you get for spending an hour killing 250 monsters does not make grinding worthwhile.

>Grinding with a party is the most efficient way to gain exp. There are also plenty of events you can abuse for this.
Grinding with a party is the most efficient way to gain EXP in the later levels because there AREN'T ANY QUESTS. If there were quests, questing would be the most efficient way.

I've done the Constructor's Chapel grind. It's the only thing other than powerleveling that gives XP similar to questing. Powerleveling doesn't count as "playing the game", incidentally. It's just like pushing the conveyor belt into overdrive.

>Don't try to act like you want to raise the games difficulty by suggesting this because it doesn't.
I do want to make the game more difficult. I want to lower the overall XP rate. Where are you getting the idea that I want to make the game easier?

God, are you even the same guy who claimed he was talking to the devs?
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>>147281112
dad, im weet. please slap my ass
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>Watch a guy spend the past hour trying to get a Storage group
>Party of 4/5 disbands because they cant find a healer
>Couldve spent all that time just killing stuff and leveling up instead of being a bitch

I will never understand these people
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What now /tosg/?
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>>147281748
a holes a hole
you can make an extra by shooting yourself
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>>147281328
Do you even read what you're posting? Unless you have multiple characters to 230+ where quests start to get cut off and have tried both grinding and questing methods as leveling then you're just taking out your ass. You're also bringing in a lot of irrelevant shit into this discussion.


>I don't want to be rewarded for "every single thing". I want to be rewarded for several different things
Semantics, and calling you a low level isn't ad hominem it's an assumption. Because you're clearly ignorant about the amount of exp you get from questing and grinding.

>The single EXP card you get for spending an hour killing 250 monsters does not make grinding worthwhile.
It's pretty obvious you don't play the game.
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>>147281328
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>>147281328
>I've done the Constructor's Chapel grind
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>>147282238
He's got it correct on the last one (if he plays kTOS that is), the new quests > grinding
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>>147281748

Destroy his boipussy (no homo)
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>>147281331

*slaps ur face*
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>>147279198
>>147281328
Why are you talking as if collections and hunting were mutually exclusive with questing? They're not. Just do the damn quests, and then simply stay on the map for the kills and drops. This isn't a revolutionary idea, anybody with half a brain should realize this is the proper way to go.

Besides... what's with you guys and your irrational hate towards questing? I only hear you screaming "themepark!" but that's just a stupid empty snarl world. Questing IS part of the journey, deal with it already.

I mean, it's not like this game offers a sandbox world or any of sort of horizontal depth at all, it's pure vertical growth. Even if you completely forfeit the questlines, you'll still grind following pretty much the same map progression anyway, so it will still be a "themepark" and a 100% linear exprerience, no matter how much you try to be a questless snowflake.
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>>147282796
ohhw
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Requesting the dwarf meme image with /tosg/ related look and 'How about I slap ur ass'
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Should I erase from my head that autism that doesn't let me advance to another map without doing at least 2 monster kill req.?
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I want to make a Priest 3 heal slut but I don't know what other classes to take. Cleric 2 is a given and I've heard Chaplain is bad/falls off so I'm not sure what to do for R6. I've thought about getting R6 Krivis for Daino and R7 I guess I could do PD. Is that a good idea?
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>>147283184
yes
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>>147282913
You know son, I think your hair's gotten a little too long ain't it? You also need to stop wearin' your sisters clothing. The old man down the road was talkin' to me the other day. He was sayin' that I should tell you to should visit him more often, when did you become friends with that old timer?
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>>147283248
definitely Cleric C2 Priest C3

What you get at R6 is either
>Krivis PD (Dainos and Bloodletting)
>Oracle PD (If you want to use Prophecy instead of Bloodletting and max other PD Skills earlier)
>Oracle Kabbatits (Prophecy and Ein Sof)
>Krivis Kabbatits (no status protection but Dainos and Zalciai)
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>>147282238
> Unless you have multiple characters to 230+ where quests start to get cut off and have tried both grinding and questing methods as leveling then you're just taking out your ass.
I have tried both grinding and questing methods. Questing is faster.

>Semantics
It isn't semantics. The difference is incredibly important. The difference between "everything" and "3" is staggeringly huge. Especially since right now there's only 1 good way of gaining XP.

>calling you a low level isn't ad hominem it's an assumption
You're right, I got my fallacies mixed up. It's not an ad hominem; it's a genetic fallacy. It doesn't matter if I'm low level. What matter are my ideas.

>Because you're clearly ignorant about the amount of exp you get from questing and grinding.
I've done both extensively. Grinding is massively inferior to questing, at least in the pre-200 levels.

>It's pretty obvious you don't play the game.
Not even an argument. Are you saying you don't only get 1 XP card, or that 1 XP card is worth spending an hour killing 250 monsters?

Incidentally, because I'm apparently just better than you in every way, I have proof of my claims from a third party. Here's a link to reddit. I'll quote the necessary parts so you don't have to taint yourself with the horrible reddit virus.

https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4qtp4p/tried_leveling_up_differently_than_my_first/

>[Results after 30-40 hours of gameplay]
>Swordsman Level: 70
>Swordsman Class Level: C3 Lv11
>Quest Progress: Karolis Springs - Lv 57
>Monster Journal Completion: 100% up to Karolis Springs

This guy has done quests + monster kill counts. He hasn't used any XP cards, so this is purely grinding. He has spent 30-40 hours. He is level 70. I can get to level 70 in about 10 hours by questing, no sweat.

Granted, he hasn't done any dungeons, but that doesn't explain the 20-30 hour difference. Grinding is clearly inferior XP to questing.
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>>147283409
>Grinding is massively inferior to questing, at least in the pre-200 levels.
Nobody grinds pre-200 unless you stop and hit up bees for a day to make the 180-186 jump easier. Are you retarded?
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>>147283248
Priest 3 needs daino. Unless you're a fucking shitter who doesn't want to cast half his buffs.

I suggest cleric3priest3krivis for futureproofing
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>>147283409
this >>147283512
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>>147283512
>>147283626
That's the whole point. He's trying to say "make grinding more rewarding". Are you guys even reading the thread?
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>>147283683
Grinding IS rewarding. The only time it isn't is the 3 days you're playing 1-200. You can't spend 3 days without grinding?
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>>147282904
>Why are you talking as if collections and hunting were mutually exclusive with questing? They're not. Just do the damn quests, and then simply stay on the map for the kills and drops. This isn't a revolutionary idea, anybody with half a brain should realize this is the proper way to go.
It is not the proper way to go. Optimal experience is questing. Spending time doing collections and such is just wasted time.

>Besides... what's with you guys and your irrational hate towards questing? I only hear you screaming "themepark!" but that's just a stupid empty snarl world. Questing IS part of the journey, deal with it already.
All I hear you saying is "this thing is bad but who cares deal with it". I am tired of questing. The game has, as you say, no horizontal depth at all. I'm trying to give it horizontal depth. Why are you opposed to that?

>Even if you completely forfeit the questlines, you'll still grind following pretty much the same map progression anyway, so it will still be a "themepark" and a 100% linear exprerience, no matter how much you try to be a questless snowflake.
It isn't. Monster kill XP doesn't really drop off until you're ~8-9 levels above the monsters you're killing, and you do get a decent amount of experience, about 80%, from monsters more than 10 levels above you. That gives you an optimal range of 10 levels (+-5) and a feasible range of about 20 level (+-10). That is to say, you can grind maps 10 levels up to 10 levels below or above you, and you can optimally grind maps 5 levels below or above you. That range means that you'll always have 5-6 maps to choose from at any given time, which is enough choice that the grind isn't strictly linear.

You're right that it follows the same general path, but that's fine.
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>>147263372
Three viable leveling methods. In short, being able to level from 50 to 280 with only grinding, doing quests, or doing dungeons (just make cubes not drop after 3 runs), so you don't have to do the same shit on every alt.

Improve the itemization, it's heavily lacking as of now.
Diablo2 and Torchlight2 had great itemizations, go to wikis or databases and look up the item lists, both low and high level. ToS currently has up to 3 viable options for majority of equipment slots.

Obviously better skill balance, perhaps in form of better skill point value, so that difference between level 1 and level 5 is massive. Take a look at multihit skills, they are almost always maxed, because they are basically +100% damage per point. Single-hit skills would need either scaling damage ratios, and/or insane flat damage buffs (those, however, fall off quickly).

Do something about gem exp. My personal suggestion would be 5*sellprice for materials, and 5*ilvl*rarity for equipment.

More World Bosses. The problem with current ones is that 3 bosses have BiS gear (for aforementioned reason), so everyone camps them.

Fixed the retarded damage sponge mobs that a lot of later zones have. One mob has 6k HP, one has 8k, and one has 120k, this is nonsense.

SP and Cooldown system could use a rework. Long cooldowns and meager SP costs, you almost never run out of SP, unless you have a 0CD skill. And when you do run out, pop a lv10 SP potion and you're back at full. The entire point of resources is to learn how to manage them. Almost every modern MMO has this "% of mana", and for a good reason.
On top of that 0CD skills could use stamina.
Or just remove SP entirely. Only HP, Stamina, and Cooldowns. I can see it working.

Give us skill resets when kToS database is merged.

And make more hats. We need more. Each dungeon and world boss should drop some cosmetic item.

Also, keku, pitch them idea of reopening test servers.
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>>147283409
I'm so sad you are spending your time trying to explain your point. I'm really sad.
You have a really good point but the people you are talking to are brainless retards.
You are throwing pearls to the pigs.
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>>147283683
>>147283834
pretty clear they (imc) do not want us to grind <200
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If you actually like grinding then you're going to drop the game whenever kTOS patches come to iTOS.

I wonder if you're getting 5 dungeon runs though if that happens.
>>147283986
IMC never wanted anyone to grind a single level, they wanted to do quests ahoy up till the end of the game but they had to release the garbage really fast because nexon was pressuring them (who wouldn't??)
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>>147283560
>>147283387
>taking Krivis
>not just buying Dainos scrolls
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>>147283387
>>147283560
Alright, thanks. I'll take Krivis then. I was already leaning towards Krivis because I felt Daino was too good but at the same time I wanted to make completely sure I wasn't making a mistake by forgoing one of the R5+ classes.
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>>147284090
fuck off Pardoner Master, no one wants to buy your over priced shechel scrolls
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Requesting the LESS BAD Sword/Dagger build
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>>147284479
>sword
uhmmm

UHMMMM

how about a spear/dagger?
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>>147284479
>sword/dagger build
There's literally none, even the Corsair memebuild uses spear and dagger.
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>>147283560
Which one are the best skills for a PriestC3?
Like, what should I max and what should I just let 1 point or none at all
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>Owl is a straight line shooting statue
I'm not sure what I expected, but it's still awesome.
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>>147284801
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/eehwj181vu/ You can copy the skill allocation for priest in that build.
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don't get hooked
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>>147285057
What? I can see the futureproof for 15/15 Bless, but 1/15 Asp and then going chaplain?
What's the deal with that?
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>>147285215
I don't like the position of the tree in regards to the fish
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>>147285282
>*Put points in Aspersion and skip Revive while you're solo leveling, just use a skill reset potion later*
If you're 280 and you want to transition into a more support oriented build you take points of Aspersion. Aspergellum is pretty useless with a full party because you're not going to be wasting time auto attacking.
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>>147258231
Here he is crashing our fight with ReRoll yesterday.

The fight ended after 2 hours, it was great fun for both sides.
We had a big lead in killcount and fended them off for most of the fight, but in the last 20 minutes we started breaking.
We were running out of mats and healers, but those are poor excuses, they still overran our position in the end.

Here's a clip of Bats + JP, the latter skill I'm totally in love with in PvP right now.
http://forge.gg/i/VmlkZW86ODQ1MTg1
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>>147285658
>Whispering yourself
deep
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>>147285634
points off* Aspersion
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>>147285658
>FPS: 0.30
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>>147285717
That was their leader Triggerrr, whispering me.
Thanks to IMCompetence it registers under my own name, even after I manually pm him with his real name.
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>>147285850
that is because

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crashed a few ppl
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>>147285426
yeah it prob should have been centered
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>>147285658
>He still hasnt block Owncuck
Anyone stupid enough to let themselves get 5man JP+HK deserves to die, you don't even need a hard hitting skill to wipe them as shown in that short clip. Summon Familiar is shit if you're against someone who's actually organized.
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>>147285634
Just read the whole build,
is it any good? I really liked it so I think I'll follow it
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>>147286065
>can crash people by spamming @s
Thank you based IMC
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>>147286065
>cant handle @@@@@@@@@ spam
congrats
maplestory is more solid than tree of savior
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>>147252127
Lose some hair weight
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>>147287065
not if they block you. and gonna spam a fuck lot.
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>>147286806
I'd say it's pretty good. The only downside is you gotta buy Daino Scrolls but that shouldn't be that much of a problem since you'll only need it at higher levels. You're no DPS so you won't really spend that much silver on attributes so you spend that on buff mats/skill scrolls instead. Chaplain is definitely a great pickup if you want an easier time leveling.
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>AWESOME CLASS THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO EVERYONE BUT YOU AIN'T MAKING ONE BY ANY MEANS

Diev.

>SHIT CLASS THAT YOU WARN PEOPLE TO AVOID BUT YOU PLAY WITH PASSION

Fencer.

Yours, /tosg/?
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>>147287335
>AWESOME CLASS THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO EVERYONE BUT YOU AIN'T MAKING ONE BY ANY MEANS
Druid


>SHIT CLASS THAT YOU WARN PEOPLE TO AVOID BUT YOU PLAY WITH PASSION
Chaplain
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>>147287335
>SHIT CLASS THAT YOU WARN PEOPLE TO AVOID BUT YOU PLAY WITH PASSION

This game
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>>147287335
>Recommend, but never playing
Oracle
>Warn about, but love
Chaplain
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>>147287335
>>147287432
>tfw working on making this exact character right now
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>>147287335
>AWESOME CLASS THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO EVERYONE BUT YOU AIN'T MAKING ONE BY ANY MEANS

elememe

>SHIT CLASS THAT YOU WARN PEOPLE TO AVOID BUT YOU PLAY WITH PASSION

full int druid
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>>147287296
Ok, thank you kind anon
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>>147284618
>>147284549

That is pretty sad.
How is the spear/dagger meme tho? Is it good enough to be leveled or its just bad?
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>>147287145

SELLING ARDE 140TALT QUICK BUY@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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>>147274250
I bet that's Moonie's butt.
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>>147286482
I blocked him then and there to stop the spam, I'm pretty sure I did it too back in the meetup raid, don't know why he was unblocked.
Bats are good in any PvP situation, especially in duels, because they're homing and practically guaranteed damage.
They're just particularly good with JP because they fly out at all targets linked instead of a few at a time in the case of only 1 target.
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>>147287764
If you are looking for a special snowflake gimmick, look elsewhere.
Spears are the most reliable 1-handed weapon for swordies.
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>>147287862
thats mia's butt
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>>147274250
This motherfucker looks nice as fuck
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>>147287335
>AWESOME CLASS THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO EVERYONE BUT YOU AIN'T MAKING ONE BY ANY MEANS
Elememe/Flecher


>SHIT CLASS THAT YOU WARN PEOPLE TO AVOID BUT YOU PLAY WITH PASSION
Monk2Sadhu2
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>>147288105
>Monk/Sadhu
Jesus Christ that is some high tier masochism
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>>147288023
Anon please...
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>500k for this

Worth?
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>>147288216
it used to be the top tier class for
everything
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>>147287335
>AWESOME CLASS THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO EVERYONE BUT YOU AIN'T MAKING ONE BY ANY MEANS
i don't recommend stuff to people often. i just make a contrast and let them decide

>SHIT CLASS THAT YOU WARN PEOPLE TO AVOID BUT YOU PLAY WITH PASSION
i'm 100% futureproof so anything i play is golden now or later
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SIMONY PLEASE RESPOND
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>>147287335
>AWESOME CLASS THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO EVERYONE BUT YOU AIN'T MAKING ONE BY ANY MEANS
Scout Hunter

>SHIT CLASS THAT YOU WARN PEOPLE TO AVOID BUT YOU PLAY WITH PASSION
Doppel2
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>>147288560
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>>147278308
>mfw i don't know these faggots
>mfw some care about faggots drama

lol dead game
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>>147288023
Moonie_ has a way better ass than Mia. Don't ever try to compare them ever again.
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>>147287335

>AWESOME CLASS THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO EVERYONE BUT YOU AIN'T MAKING ONE BY ANY MEANS


Elememe

>SHIT CLASS THAT YOU WARN PEOPLE TO AVOID BUT YOU PLAY WITH PASSION

C H A P L A I N
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>>147288823
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/filename/1458755075845.jpg
nice drama
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>>147288540
what do you play
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>>147274250
Look at that filthy cow getting milked on the right.
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>>147289015
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>>147289108
>posting senrans
my nigga
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>>147288389
>Not Grynas
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Anyone got a list of the NPCs i gotta visit before chap unlocks?
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>>147289146
"I am bored at the moment, so I tabbed back to shitpost. When my boredom removes itself in a few minutes, I will tab back out."
I added text to your post for you.
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>>147289084
gods chosen child
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>>147289658
necros suck sorry
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>>147289658
are you still gods chosen when your skellies wont attack unless you attack back first?
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>>147263293
Cleric- Get at least 2 of it in every build. Certain builds can go without, but dont expect to be as effective without the 2nd rank

Krivis- Lightning aoes, meme buff duration skill, dodge campfires and crit resist shred (if spirit main)

Priest- Buff bot, lots of buffs, all buffs, stack spirit

Bokor- Aoe monster, hex everything (easier with PD to spread it further and wider) or go zombies and be useless generally, stack int and con mostly. Some spirit doesnt hurt

Dieve- Statues, lots of statues. Just build statues. Go int because of statues. Classic and generic support side

Monk- Generally useless. Dont bother if you want to do damage, go ahead if you just wanna punch things. Go str/dex. Generally they take 1 rank of dieve and paladin for additional attack skills while leveling.

Paladin- Str/con or Spr/int/con, you either are smiting things and dropping a barrier to support your team or you're dropping a barrier to support your team.

Sadhu- Dont bother unless oyu just wanna be a sadhu for the sake of it. Extremely underpowered tree. Possession is pretty good though. Lots of desyncing

Pardoner- Match it with priest if you want a buff shop, krivis if oyu wanna sell skill scrolls or even 1 rank to extend debuffs of you and your allies. Decent support tree.

Oracle- Spell imunity is fun and messing around in pvp is good fun too. Generally a pvp or dicking around tree. One or more ranks (if you wanna believe in the sex change skill)

Kabbalist- Mana batter and revenge damage. Thats it until we get rank 8 info

Plague doctor- PD for short. Debuff imunity, very helpful for pvp and does quite a bit of damage in pve. Basically the whole kit is great. Wouldnt be surprised if they move some skills from rank 7 to rank 8 since its so stacked with useful stuff
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>>147289878
skeletons attacking what i attack? that's a buff
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>>147289108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA_scY0cI5w
for all of my fellow cows
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>>147290045
they dont attack things that attack you any more

only if you attack

so buzz buzz is ded
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>>147289965
Damn, forgot druid

Druid- Lots of aoe damage and some fun skills like transforming and mind control. Second circle gets a wide ass safety zone too! Int helps most
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>>147287764
>>147287994
>>147284549
>>147284618
>>147284479


Sword3>Pelt>Cor2>Shinobi

As long you have pelt people will accept you in parties, so you can just leech until Shinobi and be useless because clones are bad.

Well, you'll have burst damage :^)
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>>147283912
I really like these ideas, if I weren't on my phone I'd elaborate on that. I can only hope they don't fall on deaf ears.
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>>147289379
ur mum is a faggot
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>>147289965
And Chap?
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>>147290191
they never attacked things that attacked me. they attacked things within range that they aggro onto when i don't move. if they attack stuff i attack then it's a buff

you can't stop the necro jew hustle. this will just hurt all the noob autopot sorcerers and faux-necromancer but not me.. everyday i'm hustlin cuz i'm a hustler
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>>147290832
Tell me more about faggots, sonny.
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>>147290514

Cor 2 ain't leeching shit, hexen dropper can carry you on early shit, you can 2shot truffles with your 2 charges of hexen anyway
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>>147290924
Woops, god dammit i suck.

>>147289965
>>147290220

Chaplain- Must have priest 3 with it. Go mostly spirit. Auto attacking damage class. Dont expect wiz3ele3 levels of damage from it but its pretty good at farming stuff and is very efficient at it.
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>>147290924
Buff bot, now with autoattack meme.
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>>147291019
Not without Finestra
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>>147290962
ur mum is the biggest faggot :^)
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>>147291195
My mother is dead. I cannot ask her about faggots. Enlighten me.
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>>147290112
nice
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SIMONY
STOP BEING AFK
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>>147290112
I do not approve
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>>147290112
Slut anthem
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>>147291168

it's possible to do without finestra, maybe you need to finish with double slash, but that's it.
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>>147275048
>Instead of a progression of levels, make maps each be part of level ranges. Not 1-2-3-4-5, but 1-1-3-3-5-5, sort of thing.
The whole "10 levels away and you get wrecked" mechanic really becomes a problem. It's a very narrow range, which limits the amount of choices they can offer at each time, and it separates players. The game needs to focus on encouraging grouping up, and "you're 20 levels apart, so you can't do the same zone" prevents that.

I agree with the last part, but it's a bit late for the early game. Those would be good principles for updates as they add quests and raise the level cap. Perhaps instead of dungeons, which are really basic and uninspired, some of the open world "dungeon" floors (throughout all levels, not just high levels) could be designated as party areas with tons of powerful, high value mobs similar to those found in instances. Increasing the exp bonus for being in a party would be good too, once a higher level cap allows them to rebalance exp by buffing.

The average player's initial experience with this game is currently solo questing with nobody around them forming parties. Anyone who's looking for multiplayer in a massively multiplayer online role playing game is going to be disappointed by the early levels.
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>>147292336
>The average player's initial experience with this game is currently solo questing with nobody around them forming parties. Anyone who's looking for multiplayer in a massively multiplayer online role playing game is going to be disappointed by the early levels.
grats you found out why the korean server is so fucking DEAD
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Is there a chat command to go to character select?
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>>147290112
CUTE
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Legwyn Family DG or Hollow Thorn DG?
Which one is the best to do? I'm lvl 150, first char.
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>>147292780
Rush legwyn and keep questing or find a party for thorns.
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Lalaco is the biggest faggot and I love him
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>>147294786
you are the biggest faggot and i love you
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Windfell is a really rude guy.
>>
How many times to I have to tell Uska that the mayor is fucking dead
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>>147294884
>he got windfelled on
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>>147294786
>him
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>>147294883
You don't know me
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>>147294786
>him
silly anon, get it right next time
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>>147294952
>>147295058
Her(faggot)
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>>147295145
her(cute cow)
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>>147295265
I'm embarrassed to be in the same cringe guild
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>>147295321
nice meme

never ever
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I never used a token before so please be nice.

How does Team Storage works? Can I put ANY item into it? Does items that have potential lose it when being traded by team storage? If the previous answer is yes, what about items that don't have potential, like Recipes?
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>>147295321
The Priest costume is perfect the way it is, no need to taint it
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>>147295321
>6tp
>Still dont have anything to buy with 5 tp
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The elgos torch is up
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>>147295761
Also, I forgot to add, what about cards?
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>>147295761
>>147295887
no potential loss cause they removed that
you can put in costumes, skill potions, and other tp stuff
there's some untradable stuff but it's mostly like quest untradable and when you buy something and it becomes untradable like talt off the market
cards/gems can be traded now

kiss yourself softly
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>>147295879
Thanks senpai, going
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>>147295761
Nothing loses potential or becomes untradeable. You can not trade untradeable items however, so no buying mats on one character and transferring them to another.
TP items are an exception to this, you can trade all of them.
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So, who hasn't been name dropped this thread
Cattly?
There you go faggot, enjoy your name drop.
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>>147296291
He's sleeping right now, but I'll be sure to let him know you name dropped him! He'll be delighted!
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>>147296291
It's funny how i'm always namedropped but people doesn't know they are namedropping me.
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>>147296747
No Simony you were actually completely purposefully being namedropped.
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I've never been name dropped and I never will
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>>147296747
>tfw your name is part of a servername
t-thanks IMC
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>>147297151
(You)

There you go fampai.
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Oh, is it namedropping time already?
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>>147297675
Name drop your crush
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>>147297675
>>147297762
Please stop this.
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>>147297675
Yes Lolipan, it's time
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>>147297675
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Why are you alone, anon?
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>namefags

faggots all of you
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>>147295351

tfw blocked lalaco weeks ago
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>>147297818
Once again my names not on it.

Thank goodness.
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>>147298205
>Once again
its the same one as last time
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>>147295321
WE Tf2 now?
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>>147298205
i wish paladins were really masters of melee destruction and defense instead of being barrier slaves
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>>147297560
sux to be you, (You)
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Koenig is my crush because she's the only one who would quest with me and do missions
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>>147297997
>>147295351
rude!
am i really annoying?
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>>147298557
I want to energy blast without taking monk too
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>>147298651
You're autistic af
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>>147298651
Keep being a cow! Who cares what others think!
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>>147298651
y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-yes
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>>147298651
No! You are adorable! Don't let the memesters get you down!
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Koenig is my favorite guildie
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>>147295321
>only red and blue for main colors
wow talk about boring choices
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>>147297762
Koenig
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How much con for a fletcher build?
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Holy shit this fucking game

I'm crying
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>>147299286
i'm past crying.
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>>147298651
Yeah, you are. The stutter in every fucking sentence is annoying. And when you "greet" it's actually making out with every person in fedi. Also posting about stupid shit to get replies.
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>>147299280
10k hp is a must. So... close to 60 con I think
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>>147299286
I got the thing I wanted.
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>>147299407
Stop talking crap about lala, Dread
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how should i use pass?

whenever it's off cd, or do i need to pay attention to when people use their spells?
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>Spent 2M upgrading weapon
>Only +5
Should've spent the silver on Meme cloud attribute
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>>147298557
Fear not. Zealot is going to be cleric's best melee DPS. r-right?
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>>147299591
Mizu, you're a cunt ;)
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>>147299591
>Dread
>you will never be this much of a literal who
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>>147299691
Macro a warning and use it when Pass has 5~8 cd left.
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>>147299809
You'd have to be in the guild to know
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>>147299712
Nothing will beat pardoner for melee burst damage.
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>>147299965
>all the whos are in whoville
Seuss was right.
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>>147299712
Don't seem so, even if they got plate, they also got dress and scrolls. Let's hope they don't blow it.

Being completely honest, I'd be fine with whatever it is if it took the concept of 'Zealotry' being ditching defense (shields) in favor of power, relying on faith as your shield. Thus you could get attribute to wear staffs or 2hand swords.
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>>147300068
>4 toes
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>>147299712
I hope Shepard is good for INT, even if dogs are shit tier pets.
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>>147299773
Shut the fuck up you dumb erp slut, miyu
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>>147300231
Go fuck some beez dvine
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>>147300119
Pinky is completely useless only sub-humans have it
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>>147300020
Keep trying
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>>147300068
>That scarf
I'm sold
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>>147300127
>>147299712
I just want Miko/Onmyouji to be good. Weeb classes are my guilty pleasure, but I hate swordsman.
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>>147300356
Not him but I frequently use my pinky toe to pick up things off the floor under my desk. I don't even realize I'm doing it.

I once picked up open scissors. It went about as well as you think.

That was 7 or 8 years ago and I haven't learned my lesson.
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>>147300351
Keep sucking atoms cock you cuck, lolipan
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CnL shitting up the thread with their clique shit
Please die.
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>>147300589
I literally forgot that guild was even still going.
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>>147300068
Being melee DPS doesn't mean they have to be physical attack. Eg. Chaplain relies on magic attack yet they're still melee class.
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>>147300616
I always see the same 4-5 together
I'm guessing the other members are not part of their inner circle.
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>>147300553
Waifu, please go suck Plas' cock
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>>147300446
Congrats anon
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tfw no vuvuzela noot noot still
What does the defeated flag do?
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>>147297762
I'm going to live with Cattly!
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>>147298651
>>
>>147300975

But girls can't love girls
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>>147298651
annoying stupid cow
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>>147300984

Not mine, just asking why only goggles get awesome rolls.

I've seen people burning 50 scrolls on cute hats and getting nothing
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Have you made your dreams come true today yet, /tosg/?
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>>147301383
inb4 dramafaggots insulting the pan
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>>147301383
Today I got [that thing I didn't even know it existed]!
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>>147301383
You level faster than I could get a Mirtis Helmet. I don't like it.
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>>147301269
my doujins beg to differ
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>>147301650
"""""""""""""""CUTENOTLEWD"""""""""""""""""
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>>147301709
>level fast

I haven't sat down to properly play the game in almost a week, because of my tests.
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>>147300469
>Weeb classes are my guilty pleasure, but I hate swordsman.
How about Samurai
WITH MUSKET.
>>
>Have a one-liner Critical Attack +47
>Desperately need them crits
>Tons of enchant scrolls waiting to be used but don't want to risk of rerolling into a more stupid one-liner

What do?
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>>147302016
I don't know what that says about my playstyle.
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>>147301269
ehem
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>>147301993
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>>147302145
sell it, use another hat
47 is low for crit attack. i'm trying to upgrade my crit attack (60+) hats into crit attack + phys attack
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>>147302157
Stop posting, Sai, you're a fucking weeb
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>>147302157
evergarden and dvine*
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>>147302641
Hat and Moesaki
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>>147300975
But I'm Waifu, and what?
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>>147302690
Trap and Canelle
>>
n a m e d r o p
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What the fuck did Zilver do?
>>
Why are you still playing this shit game?
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>>147302783
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>>147302894
it's fun
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>>147302315
>47 is low for crit attack
>kek okay, I'll try to reroll

mite be cool
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>>147302778
Trappe*
>>
>namedrops galore
Save me from this nightmare.
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>>147302778
Aga and KabaTats
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>>147253220
>>147254369
>>147252838

Truly the Queen Bee!
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>>147302959
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>>147302863
Apparently, scammed a bunch of people
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>>147302778
Lalaco and Mizuki
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>>147302907
what happened to HoneyBingo?
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>>147302934
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This thread has been the name drop edition.
Anyone still need one?
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>>147302987
BIG
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>>147303091
shout out to fujisaki
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>>147303070
quit the game just like 99% of everyone in that
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>>147302959

me, myself and I
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>>147303219
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>>147303202
She probably appreciates that, anon. We'll all see her again soon.
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>>147302959
Agapi is a good girl, don't do this please.

>>147303219
You and your giant mushroom hat
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>>147303219
No one gives a shit
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>>147303170
FAT
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>>147303417
KABBA
>>
Quit the game a bit before it officially released.
Have they fixed a lot of the problems related to performance and gameplay or is it still the same old dull broken shit?
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>>147303496
Ask again in august when the big ktos patch happens
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>>147303496
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>>147303496
>Have they fixed a lot of the problems related to performance and gameplay
no but they gave us a lot of cashshop costumes to make up for it
>>
How good Bounce Shot and Spiral Arrow are at lvl 220+?
>>
Who do i contact about the pdf's full raw MO list?
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>>147303219

More like you and 50 other people slut
>>
>>147290112
What's the best armband and why is it the feather armband?
>>
>>147303789
Kim Hakkyu
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>>147303618
Spiral Arrow will always be good, can't say the same for Bounce shot
>SP drainer
>low dmg
>hard to get all targets
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>>147303219
>FILE DELETED
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>>147304052
The person who made this said that he has a full list of not quite legible shit
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Hows your leveling coming along /tosg/

r7 soon...
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>>147304271
so alchemist is minecraft?
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>>147304298
Will be 200 tonight on my reroll, which means more daily talt if nothing else.

If I'm not 230+ by the 9th I'm going to be really bothered, but a lot of stressful shit going down IRL is slowing stuff down by limiting my already limited playtime. I'm not demotivated to level or anything, at least.

Access to 220 gear again is the main motivation at the moment, and R7 will come right after that.
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>>147304478
Apparently.
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>>147304298
250 swordman without pelt, i want to commit sudoku
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>>147303496
They made it worse
Dialogue boxes are fugged making them a pain to click on.
Party quests are broken to a point where you just can't even level with friends anymore.
They added more market restrictions, what is it now, level 40?
I couldn't even get my alt a cafrisun set without buying it on my main and transferring it.
Fucking annoying.
The game is a mess.
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>>147304298
Kill some truffles for me
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>>147304271
>all that /a/
You're pretty cute
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>>147304538

build?
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>>147304602
New season, lots of research to do
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>>147304478
>digging
>potions
>enchanting
>grid based crafting
It really is.
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>>147303219
There's a Storage party right now, want to come?
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>>147304886
You forgot one.
>played only by literal autists
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>>147304298
I thought you two broke up
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>>147304530
>kitsune mimi
>no fox ears ingame only a mask
This game needs more cute ears.
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>>147304239

Sorry! I don't really want to be recognized too much though.. especially considering i almost never post
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>>147305167
>like 90% of headgears are ears of some kind
>this game needs more cute ears
Holy shit leave. We need ANYTHING ELSE.
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>>147305338

migrate
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>>147305167
I have the chupa ears on. Are you blind?
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Just logged in.
How it's going your farming /tosg/?
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>>147305447
Those aren't foxes though.
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>>147304628
don't laugh please

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/r1v5xgotj0/
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>>147279552
>The game will first deal damage to the target within the AoE which has the highest AoE Defense Ratio parameter

I often find that this isn't the case. Plenty of times, when a large enemy is swamped by smaller ones, I can't fucking touch the big one at first.
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>>147305682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWDozBLKdJ4
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>>147305641
Honestly, they are pretty close

That said, id kill for little pig ears, bear ears and a few more versions of dog, cat and rabbit ears
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>>147305682
I can't believe someone is 250 with this build.
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>>147305867
lepusbunny ears where imc? there's an item but no one knows where they drop from inb4 50k dpk lepusbunny
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>>147305682
you are kidding right?
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>>147305682

Anon who asked here..

that's a nice costume collection, can you post proof?

I understand your logic.

highlander 1 brings kekar stroke, a STRONG strike type damage and crossguard for some fun later.

hoplite: finestra 5 is delicious already, stabbing multihit and cheap attribute is a tool you'll use in the future and also enables the use of SPEARs, arguably the best weapon for swords

barb 1 brings stun as another strike and cleave, a ever scalling slash damage type: PS: ktos buff = cleave makes slash damage +50%.

squire: awesome outfit, I don't understand arrest mechanics to comment, but is really a doubtable choice.

doppel: one of the strongest 1 circle classes in the game, cyclone is wonderful, DPE always desirable and gives a utility to the char after 280 and deeds makes your dps higher.

synergy here from cleave+cyclone will be a thing in the near future.

dragoon: you got some setup for spear usage early, so dragoon own's strong r7 pack is enough to trash the current content, and you have SLASH damage to complement your pierce damage weakness to cloth.

anon, if you had hop 2 over squire, things would be so much better,
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>>147305461
Finally after exams. Do you still have space in guild?
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>>147305235
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1POy4XkZVoBwi6i8RW4P3fuMUNWvsgboY88s9bbXx4nQ/
There are more stupid hats than stupid ears buddy. It's just everyone is wearing ears so your perception is skewered.
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don't go breaking my heart
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>>147306698
>Highlander
I'd tell you to dig faster but I know your dirt-per-second is abysmal
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>>147306785
w-what?
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770th for kotatsu comfiest
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>>147305682
I refuse to believe this is real.
>>
new bread please
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Will I get the thing I want today...
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>Die on a boss because lolreflectdamage bullshit
>Monster gem I had drops
>Spawns me like three maps away, but able to get back within a minute
>Gem is gone
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The F.O.E. fuck from Discord that stole Trap's name is currently trying to get Antler Horns from Panto Spearman. It's a ridiculously high DKP drop and he is abusing the no-CD exploit on Resetting to quickly go through the loot. If you want some free ears, either for yourself or to sell for 15m, you can just sit back and kill it when it pops up in the Forecast
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>>147307701
>stole Trap's name
Shoulda been faster.
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>>147307548
You NEVER EVER wander around with monster gems on you. If you get one, teleport to town immediately.
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>>147307701
> no-CD exploit on Resetting

I thought that was patched a while ago.

Can you Swell Panto Spearmen?
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tfw want to +7 my valia but afraid that it'll go down in potential
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>>147308542
Yes
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TODAY'S THE DAY!

SGDQ 2016!

How many of you are taking a week off of ToS to watch?
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>>147308857
Gib link
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where's the best way for me to farm silver? I'm a lowly lvl 130 chaplain and I still don't have a token. help pls.
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>>147307701
>no-CD exploit on Resetting
Tell me more!
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>>147307701
>stole Trap's name

You can't really steal a name that common.
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>>147309327
farm cheebus from the reebud plantation. it's a 135 zone, you can get some exp there too.

cheebus sells for 50,000 each and has a 1% drop rate.
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