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>>147187448

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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puffy

>>147215071
CUTE FOR LOSERS
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xth for mushroom caps are CUTE
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>>147214915
>40 int
>int """"""build"""""""
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>>147215147
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>>147215147
YOUR A LOSER
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>>147215239
brown mushroom hat is cuter
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>>147215239
LOSER
O-------E
S-------S
E-------O
RESOL
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>>147215380
NAME A CUTER HAT
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PC FC still going on the demon bridge

>>147215147
No bully
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>>147215338
LOSER
YOU'RE A LOSER
ARE YOU FEELING FASHIONABLE FOR YOURSELF
WELL YOU SHOULDN'T BE, BECAUSE YOU ARE DIRT
YOU MAKE ME SICK YOU BIG MUSHROOM
MUSHROOM WANT A BOTTLE
A BIG DIRT BOTTLE
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reminder greatsword of judgement is still trash
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>>147213429
What is the heralds kicking a reference to?
And Sifs boss room?
ToL?
Blood Moon?
Sorry, I guess I'm ignorant to stuff like this.
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>>147214978
He hates King's Field. He hates Dark Souls 2 as well, and he LOATHES Bloodborne. Like, I've never heard anyone so salty on anything than when he talks about Bloodborne. I'm not sure what he thinks about DS3 but I can't imagine it's too high.

He considers Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 the only worthwhile ones, but I can't recall him giving too many compliments without working in some sort of backhanded one in there as well.

Plague doesn't like many things.
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>>147215471
any one
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when will they fix this?
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>>147215267
>int builds must have 60 int and no less
>even though you can still use almost all worthwhile spells at 40, minding the damage loss
I bet you think all x builds must have 60 in said main stats, don't you?
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>>147215793
everyone is hollow, anon
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>>147215770
>LOATHES Bloodborne
Who ever this man is, he ain't my nigga.
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>>147215865
>40 int
>no damage unless you use the duck crown which is never worth it
>instead reliant on investing for GSoJ
I'm sure those occasional farron darts and farron hail count, though.
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>decide to use a magic build my first 1st Ds3 play through
>Barely use my magic for any boss fights.

Does anyone ever do this? I was struggling with Nameless King until I realized I an just nuke his ass with soul spears and poke at him when he comes close and I beat his ass.
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>>147215770
Isn't PlagueofGripes some degenerate with a furry impregnation fetish that he poorly tried to cover up once he went viral-ish?
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Ashen ones, post latest /fa/. This is a new character and I'm really digging the new edgelord look.

Had to restart windows because of rig upgrade to 1070 gtx and lost my file ;_;
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At 108 spell buff, Blessed Weapon regens exactly 90 HP across its full duration.

In other words, it's still fucking worthless.
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>>147215267
Not the guy you're replying to, but hybrid physical/magic builds are pretty fun. I find it way more engaging than adorning the dusk crown and casting hcsm every 3 seconds.
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Not a lot of signs around so demon bridge FC is coming to a close. Thanks to everyone for coming and I hope you had fun
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>>147216018
>implying that's not all 60 int builds are as well
I guess using the Immolation Tinder and MLGS don't give you an int build either, after all, they require investment in something other than int as well.
>>147215770
>and he LOATHES Bloodborne.
Why? the Lovecraftian references?
why? it
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>>147216135
Not counting the full Knight set I've been digging as of recent, same old same old.

Been fucking around with weaponarts a lot because they make capes go haywire
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Is there a point of no return after you collect all the cinders? I don't want o head into Ng+ without collecting my final undead bone shard and some other stuff wherever those things may be.
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>>147213429
I can honestly understand where he's coming from with the unending references in DaS3. DaS3 is barely its own game.

>>147215720
>herald
Maiden in Black
>Sif's boss room
Graveyard of swords from Berserk.
>Tower of Latria
Berserk's torture dungeons.
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>>147216295
don't think to much about it

there isn't a lot that plague likes, his disdain for the other souls titles isn't unique to the souls series
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pike or LKS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2yQWJMPu0o

reminder to have fun with dark hand while you can
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>>147216473
gargoyle flamespear
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>>147216491
Thanks to that anon who shared the idea, I had a much easier time cheesing Dancer very early game with maybe only flynn ring to help. It's definitely gonna be patched.
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>>147216726
if it gets patched ill uninstall
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>>147216473
>pike
>ever
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>>147216757
uninstall now then
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>>147216473
LKS is a direct upgrade. The poise buff does nothing, but it has better AR and looks cool.

>>147216118
Yes. It was pretty hot and he's only gotten better at drawing since and you bet he still has a huge secret cache.
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>>147216113
I killed Sully exclusively with magic. If I ever get close with my raw poker i was going to get fucking shredded.
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>>147216726
I seriously doubt it'll be patched, they buffed it right after fixing the invincible NPC glitch, precisely because they wanted to make it available as a sequence-break tool

The dark hand basically has one role, and that's to steamroll the dancer.
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>>147217081
>ds3
>sequence break
heh..... heheh........ heheheheh.......
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So why can't I use the Black Eye Orb to save the fire keeper
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>>147217058
>that little sidestep he does to dodge your magic
>that completely fails to dodge them 90% of the time
>but he keeps doing it anyways, constantly, instead of attacking or approaching
Magic breaks his AI so badly it's unfair.
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>lure tsorig to the bridge
>he falls
>climbs back up
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is the fc ended
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>>147216118
He's actually more or less embraced that view of him as the "Creepy Sex Thing" Guy.

>>147216295
He LOATHES Bloodborne because of it's "shitty lore and slap-happy bosses", and he's really into hyper realistic combat, so the fast-paced combat is something he hates. A lot of the things that he suggests that would make the series "better" are making rolling determental, doing away with the super massive weapons, making any sort magic either useless or complicated to the point of not being worth using, putting a heavy emphasis on shields and making combat overall really slow.

>>147216351
He said it in a video he did on TheSw1tcher channel that when it comes to references "I don't care what you like, I want to know what you can come up with."

But yeah, I agree about DS3. Not much originality there.
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>>147217258
yes i was too busy dominating the fight club and scared everyone away
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>>147217330
u didnt dominate me fag
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>>147217229

Ask for help.
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>>147217151
Oh come on, if they didn't want you to sequence break at the Dancer they wouldn't have let you fight her early in the first place
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>>147217229
>Cheese Tsonigger with Luring Skulls
>His shit is now in the lava
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>>147217316
>A lot of the things that he suggests that would make the series "better" are making rolling determental, doing away with the super massive weapons, making any sort magic either useless or complicated to the point of not being worth using, putting a heavy emphasis on shields and making combat overall really slow.
So he hates Fantasy? Seriously?
>BB
>Shitty lore
If it were a bit more explained, it would have the best story of the series.
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>>147217432
Is Smouldering Lake the only area where you can get enemies to fight on another? Maybe the memory's foggy but I'm drawing a blank.
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>>147217525
The Darkwraiths in Farron Keep.
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>>147217316
I bet he fucking loves Lords of the Fallen or whatever that shit game is called.
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>>147217491
>doing away with the super massive weapons, making any sort magic either useless or complicated to the point of not being worth using
Disgusting
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>>147217316
Why does he play FROM games if almost every single one has borrowed ideas
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>>147217549
That's true, but they do that by design. I should have specified otherwise.
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>>147217330
>>147217418
he dominated me
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>Stake now takes up one slot
Nice.
Are Wolnir GS and Lothric Holy Sword worth it on Faith builds now?
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>>147217582
Lords of the Fallen loves its big heavy weapons and unrealistic edgy fantasy armor / weapons, so I doubt it.
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>Wooden Hammer
>Wooden Hammer with GREAT Hammer moveset
>356 AR

What the fuck is From doing?
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>>147217770
>wolnir
Yeah, it surpasses Hollowslayer on a STR + FAI build now. The WA does great damage now but you'll still have a horrible time trying to land it even in PvE.
>Lothric Holy Sword
Hahahahahahaha no they gave it 13% fai scaling
13%

and they reduced its STR scaling 3%
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>>147217810
Yeah I saw that video too
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>>147217810
Infuse with heavy and get 99 str
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>>147217883
Does Wolnir's have a stab?
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>>147217906
Nigger, that shit caps out at 40~50 STR. That's a waste of a solid 49 levels.
>muh Quality build
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>>147217810
How do you contract blood diseases from dipping your finger in them fuckley
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>>147217668
i wish i was dominated
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>>147217883
What about Morne's Hammer? All I can see is that didn't messed with the base AR, but I can't tell if either the STR scaling was lowered or if the FAI scalling is worthwhile.
I don't even have either GSoJ or Crescent Moon Sword so I can't see if those got better.
>>147217982
It's the Bastard sword moveset, which is better than Claymore moveset IMO
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Where should I be putting my summon sign for coop?

I've been trying to help people with aldrich and twins but nobody has summoned me
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>>147218057
>How can a blood-borne illness be transferred via blood
Did you really have to ask?
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>>147218061
I'll try next time
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Jesus Christ who though this was a good idea
>int is just boring kiting cancer
>glaives are just boring R1 out of range cancer
>put both together for your best int experience
no wonder this poor guy black crystals, I would too
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>>147218092
GSoJ does real damage now for """""int""""" builds

Crescent Moon Sword got fucked because the INT scaling is too weak to compensate for the reduced dex scaling

Morne's has a net increase by almost no AR for worse scaling
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>>147218103
How about... Outside Suly's Fog Wall??
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>>147218152
>skin = blood
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>>147218092
>which is better than Claymore moveset IMO
I dunno m8, being restricted to only slash not only limits its damage potential but also its range. Not that this is always the case, but for greatswords it definitely is.
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Where the fuck is Untended Graves? Like, is it just in a cave? Or did I teleport through time and space after I went through that illusory wall? This is really bugging me.
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best str weapon?
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>>147218152
You have to get it in YOUR blood. Or at least, inside your body.
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>>147217982
No, bastard sword. Meaning you don't get the 1k Hollowslayer 2hr2s.
>>147218092
>better than Claymore
You're mad.
>>147218092
1.08 to 1.09 scaling comparisons

Wolnir's Holy Sword
21% STR, 45% DEX

>Wolnir's Holy Sword
>37% STR, 10% DEX, 37% FAI

Lothric Holy Sword
36% STR, 45% DEX

>Lothric Holy Sword
>33% STR, 45% DEX, 13% FAI

Morne's Great Hammer
62% STR

>Morne's Great Hammer
>47% STR, 22% FAI

Heysel Pick
31% STR, 10% DEX, 71% INT

>Heysel Pick
>31% STR, 10% DEX, 86% INT

Greatsword of Judgment
36% STR, 35% DEX, 46% INT

>Greatsword of Judgment
>36% STR, 35% DEX, 56% INT

Anri's Straight Sword
21% STR, 20% DEX, 11% FAI, unknown luck

>Anri's Straight Sword
>15% STR, 14% DEX, 8% FAI, unknown luck

Crescent Moon Sword
6% STR, 79% DEX

>Crescent Moon Sword
>0% STR, 55% DEX, 31% INT

Morne's gains about 25 AR at 34 / 40, about 610 AR
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>>147218265
Slamough's Hammer
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>be Lothric knight cosplayer
>full armour set, shield, straightsword
>get invaded at the first bonfire in Lothric Castle
>sit down in Prayer gesture at the altar
>invader arrives, I do By My Sword, he bows
>we fight
>I take nearly no damage, kinda destroy him
>receive message after
>"jesus those knights got upgraded lol"
It's the little things that make you feel like your cosplay is appreciated.
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>>147218170
Hey I've seen that guy a few weeks before. I think he plays a lot too.
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>>147218103
I'm lvl 85
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>>147218229

As far as anyone knows, you've stepped into the past during a "dark" period of the whole light-dark cycle.
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>>147218340
>tfw nobody E V E R comments on your cosplays
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>>147217642
Because occasionally Miyazaki can be a competent character writer. Whether or not its intentional or a fluke is anyone's guess. If you watch his lets play of Dark Souls then you'll see that he fucking loves the subtle character traits that some characters have. An example would be Petrus assuming that the player character is just as morally bankrupt as himself because "bad" people tend to view the world and others as reflections of themselves or what not. Its that kind of thing that you can infer from characters that gives Plague a massive hard on.

But every subsequent game does away with those little character moments little by little. Basically all the characters in 2 (aside from my waifu Bashful Ray) have little to no character. In 3 instead of creating new characters Miyazaki literally copies them from Dark Souls 1 (I'm looking at Andre and not-Siegmeyer) with little to no explanation. The only engaging character in the entire fucking game is Orbeck, and only because he has a bit of a character arc and actually helps answer some questions regarding Griggs' motivations back in DS1. Every other npc in the game aside from Sirris (who is a poor man's Solaire) is a copy of a previous character dressed up slightly differently.

t. plague
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>>147218201
I just think the 2hR2s are good for catching incoming rolls, I loved it on the Flamberge and MLGS at least.
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>>147218382
That's what I thought, I was just curious if I had missed some crucial bit of dialogue or item description
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>>147218265
Yhorm's, DSGA I like the regular Gaxe a lot, Vordt's if you can stomach the moveset, Heavy Broadhsword (cannot confirm, been meaning to test firsthand), Heavy Darksword, Gundyr's
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How's my Wombo Sorcerer, /dsg/??
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/50609
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>>147218201
>>147218092
IIRC even back in 1 BSword had higher damage, but everyone loses their minds over the poke for no reason
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>>147218424
>griggs' motivations
Can you explain?
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>>147217491
>making combat overall really slow

I can agree with that. DS1 was great with its combat pacing, and I wished that they had stayed with that style, but DS3 puts too much importance on being fast and aggressive. That was fun in Bloodborne, but it should stay in Bloodborne.

Everything else is bullshit though, and all his suggestions sound like a totally separate game.
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>All these weapons got new scaling and buffs
>Saint Bident is still shit
Now I see why Schmidt or whatever threw it away.
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I got DaS3 on the steam sale. Beat it twice already. I'm wondering, what are considered the best weapons for pvp? Especially early game? I'm trying to get all the pyromancies in one playthrough, so I have to be mound maker for a while and I just wanna get it over with as quickly as possible.
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>>147218449

Most of the info about Untended has to do with Gundyr and how he was unsuccessful in linking the flame. You meet him at Cemetary of Ash when he's totally hollowed out, full of pus of man (which is ambiguously Abyss-related), rooted in place by a coiled sword and he fights like he's exhausted. In Untended, you fight him when he's in the prime of his hero career.
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>>147218424
>not liking 3's characters
the man with NO taste
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>>147218170
>everything I don't like is "cancer"
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>>147218501
Looks alright.
Enjoy being one-shotted in PvP, newfriend.
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>>147218635
Okay, thanks for clarifying. I was just clueless about the time and place of untended graves.
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>>147218515
Of course it was good, but there are things that make it slightly less good now. Namely the restrictive damage type and less-than-great, both of which I consider Claymore to be superior.
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>>147218705
stay mad skilless int babb
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Shoutout to 1.09 buffing this thing.

Making it scale higher off of STR and actually scale off of FAI makes this thing hit like a truck

I always liked it for the looks, but now I can actually use it online
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>>147218424
here's grigg's motivation you nigger

>my husbando has gone to lordran
>also I must gain his strength
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>>147218871
its still ass
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>>147218265
Heavy Broadsword is a great early game weapon with low stamina usage. Really helps when you're leveling STR/VIG and ignoring END early on.
Heavy Great Club has great r2s, the uncharged 2hr2 leads into a very fast 2hr1 and combos in pvp, it's very reliable
Heavy Pickaxe and Warpick got buffed so that they pierce shields with all moves, but I haven't tried that yet, otherwise they're solid Leo ring weapons
Yhorm's is great but doesn't combo 2hr1s, and it consumes fucktons of stamina

Note that STR builds should go to 60 STR because scaling doesn't really stop
Try 66 STR for maximum scaling when 2h
A 40 STR 2h great club has 585 AR
A 60 STR 2h great club has 621
A 66 STR 2h great club has 639
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>>147218719

From the wiki page:

>Iudex Gundyr, who was corrupted by the Abyss, spends an eternity testing new unkindled heroes if they are worthy of fulfilling the phrophecy of rekindling the First Flame. He was once an unkindled himself, but had risen too late to fulfill his duty.

>The Flame had already been extinguished and the bells failed to ring, starting a new Dark Age. As the Ashen One travels through the illusory door, they go straight to that very same Dark Age to face Champion Gundyr at his prime. This is where they defeat him as an unknown warrior which seals his fate.

>A prisoner with an unbreakable halberd hoping that one day an unkindled will rise and relink the flame once more.

It's possible that the whole Untended Graves thing is a bit of a Terminator time loop: defeating Gundyr at Untended Graves fulfills his position as Iudex Gundyr in the beginning of the game, meaning if you defeat him in Untended you're the one who put him in his position as the combat trial permitting your own entry into Firelink Shrine.
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>>147218871

Yes Anon, now with a 40 STR and 40 FAI Wolnir's you can have as much AR as a 40/40 Refined Claymore with a worse moveset and range while being unbuffable with a mediocre weaponart that will hit no one in PvP.
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>>147219065
>from the wiki page
how naive
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>>147218554
So it's heavily implied that Griggs is a Vinheim assassin due to his Black Sorcerer's garb, the fact that he drops the Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring, and that you find his hollowed version in the room at Sen's Fortress with the Spook sorcery in it (I'm just assuming its another "lol time is convoluted" thing). Like Griggs, Orbeck was a Vinheim assassin, but its revealed that assassins are generally restricted from learning sorceries that aren't related to combat and are generally looked down upon by the more upstanding members of the school. I would think that being able to meet the greatest sorcerer in the world as Griggs does with Logan might prompt him to give up (at least temporarily) his duties as an assassin and actually learn sorceries proper. Just like Griggs, Orbeck is in the same situation and his greatest wish is to be an actual sorcerer, rather than the school's thug.

>>147218649
Andre - Copied from DS1 with no explanation
Siegward - Character is copied from DS1 with no explanation. At least give me something like he's Siegmeyer's son/grandson/brother/father, fucking anything
Leonhard - Is basically just a slightly more fanatical Lautrec
Karla - a combination of Yuria from DeS and Quelana from DS1. With some hints that she might be either a descendant of Manus or Zullie who fucking knows
Shrine Handmaid - basically has no character aside from that bit about Dreamchaser and that she looks like a DS2 firekeeper
Cornyx - old master who you find trapped in a cage that teaches you sorc- I mean pyromancies, basically has no character

I could go on about a few other characters but this post has taken me forever to write
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hey, im trying to farm the fire witch's set, but the chest piece refuses to drop, anybody got a spare? ive got plenty of other pieces of the set i can trade for it
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>>147219136
I agree. Why not just use the carthus curved sword?
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>>147219136
>worse range
dude have you even held Wolnir's? it's huge
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>>147219431

Objectively speaking there's no reason not too.
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>>147218554
not that guy but
It confirms/connects to griggs being a vinheim assassin trailing logan for some reason or another, he probably had a similar experience to orbeck in that he wanted to be a sorcerer but got stuck doing wetwork
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>>147219420
disreguard that i suck cocks

moment i posted it dropped
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>>147219517
You can use the washing pole to finish off people who don't use shields.
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post faces/sliders
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>>147219517
You can also use BKGA for ripostes
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>>147219354
>Andre
Lying will get you nowhere
>Siegward
Catarinian, friends with big ol' dude
>Leonhard
And Lautrec is just a more fanatical Yurt. Your point?
>Karla
Zullie
>Shrine Handmaid
And I'm sure the other two vendors from early game are very bright and characteristic
>Cornyx
Some dude in a barrel that teaches you pyromancies and will also go hollow if you tell him where Quelana is
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OKAY, THIS HAPPENED LIKE A WEEK OR SO AGO BUT STILL

WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKERS IS A CHARACTER NAMED "happy merchant" ON PS4?

I FUCKING LOVE YOU FOR YOUR ANTICS AND DROPPING OFF THOSE NG++ RINGS

Seriously, you're a godsend.
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>>147219732
look
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>>147218424
Not Siegmeyer is literally a foil to Siegmeyer tho.
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>inb4 >fire
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>>147219769

Yhorm's or the basic Greataxe would be more efficient for weight for about the same crit damage if you're using Hornet's desu.
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>>147219863

is this supposed to be an invasion build?

and yes >fire

raw flamberge does 397 pure phys which is much higher than that split damage shit

and put the hornet ring on
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>>147219865
>He isn't 40/40 at SL142
explain yourself
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Where is the best place to grind for souls? I'm trying to get ready for NG+
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Are these stats good enough for a faith build?
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>>147219624
>trailing logan for one reason for another
>literally says logan's his bro that he's looking for
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>nameless knight, herald, and elite knight are all the exact same helmet but with the visor in different positions

why is this allowed
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>>147220017
3 golden fatties
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>>147219970
jesus I thought I was overleveled at 130
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/51198

reminder to shit on 120 redditors

too bad they nerfed the ags though you could do 1k damage rolling attacks with this before
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>>147220017
mini smoughs

>>147220114
Herald is a different helmet than NK and EK
NK is supposed to be a step down from EK, it was originally just dubbed 'Knight'
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>>147220053
FTH isnt viable in the superman meta
you need to go lower if you want it to actually do damage.
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>>147219965
I'm using >fire because I intent to have it at +5-6, which a flamburger and normal playmore will be roughly the same: less damage than a fire playmore. What do you propose I do, then, considering I want to use minimal str/dexso I can gouge vig?
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>>147219863
>life +2 instead of life +3
ok
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>>147220326
Forgot the +3 was a thing
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>>147220083
I wouldn't take the words of an assassin at face value
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>>147220273
>le reddit boooooogeyman
It's nothing new though, 150 was my stopping point for /dsg/ 125 FCs
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>>147220286
What level do you recommend?
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>>147219791
Please, elucidate me on why Andre is in DS3. What does he add to the story? Does he say or do anything even slightly interesting aside from commenting on the giant blacksmith and warning you about the profaned coal because its apparently dangerous for some reason.

Why does a clone of Siegmeyer have to be Yhrom's osananajimi then? Why couldn't Miyazaki make some other slightly endearing comic relief/hidden badass character without resorting to a carbon copy of a previous character from the franchise.

>And Lautrec is just a more fanatical Yurt. Your point?
That doesn't justify having a reskinned character in 3/4 games. I'm criticizing Miyazaki's shoddy character writing skills here. I know the nips love character archetypes and what not, but christ give them slightly different motivations every now and then

The only way Cornyx is even remotely similar to Laurentius is that they are both a bit affable. Laurentius actually has character development, his own reasons for being where he is, and a conclusion to his arc. Cornyx is just in Lothric for some reason, the most characterization you get from his is from is ashes, which basically just state that he wanted to teach someone because he's an old man (who can die? fuck if I know) but there is basically nothing going on with him.
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>>147220479
50-65 works pretty well for me.
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>>147220418
Why didn't he kill Logan when he was sitting no less than 1 foot away from him in Firelink?

If he's a Vinheim assassassino that's fine, but his target clearly isn't Logan.
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Yo, why are NPC triggers so cryptic?

Took me hours to figure out how to reach patches after he tricked me. Because of a stray ladder around a random corner eluded me. Messages weren't there to show me the ladder yesterday, but they were there today, thankfully.

Patches hasn't left the cathedral of the deep for some reason.

Got Siegward out of the well, thanks to messages leading me there. Probably would have missed it otherwise. Now that he's gone, I have no idea where he is.

Found Horace all the way inside Izalith, even though there was no reason to suspect he would be there. Looked for hours.

The pilgrim offering free levels died randomly.

Killed a random pilgrim in a corner, because messages told me to attack a random statue.

Messages are telling me to kill the darkmoon girl, I suppose after completing her covenant?

Just helped beat Aldrich with Anri, and then nothing happened. I'm guessing this will trigger something. But no clue what. Afraid I'm missing something.
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>>147220687
time is convoluted
I don't know, perhaps he was sent there to do so and had second thoughts when he discovered he could be a real life wizard instead of some lackey
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>>147219848
Sieglinde is Siegmeyer's foil. Siegmeyer is an incompetent moron who has to either be rescued or assisted throughout the course of the game. Sieglinde, aside from your first encounter with her, is an actual badass and more of a knight than her bumbling father could ever be. She's implied to not be undead so she doesn't have the benefit of being essentially immortal like Siegmeyer is (until he dies, which, according to the whole hollowing thing shouldn't be possible).
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What are the min/max-est possible pyro stats at SL120?

>Flakpanzer Gepard is not a commerical truck
Fuck off
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>>147220557
Ludleth points out that the reason no one can die when you kill them in Firelink Shrine (at least the original ensemble from the start of the game) is because they're linked to the place and trapped.

>INB4 THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR
It's an explanation, what you asked for.

>Siegmeyer
He's not a clone though. They're both big doofs but they've got different character development and different ending arcs. Ironically you use this as your main chip for Laurentius.

>Lautrec and Yurt and Leonhard
Yurt's motivation was dolla dolla bills, Lautrec's motivation was Fine, Leonhard's motivation delusional love and selfishness. There's not a difference in their characteristics, but still.

>Cornyx
Cornyx and Laurentius are two dudes in a tight spot that you send to Firelink for Pyromancies after agreeing to help them out. Laurentius is literally "thank god you saved me bro. We're friends now. Now I'm hollow because I went to blighttown."

Cornyx doesn't have an 'arc' in the sense that he has no part three to his journey but Laurentius is literally the same fucker without development.
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>>147220769
I was stuck on finding the third lever too, I didn't expect the stairs to be behind the wall.
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>>147220674
Cool I'll try keep around there for a while and see how it goes, thanks for the help Anon.
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DaS3's kiln makes me miss DaS1's kiln, it's way too short and it has lost that ominous atmosphere
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>>147220769
Instead of giving NPCs interesting quest lines they decided to make their triggers overly difficult to hit so that 70% of people who play the game wouldn't be able to see most of them without a guide
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>>147220985
Fina*
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>>147220273
>Duck hat
Always keep a stack of pale aromatic ooze on hand, kids.
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>>147221049
I'm pretty certain that's because they cut out an entire level that was supposed to build up to it.
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is there an fc right now
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>rapier has 130 critical rating now
wow that's fucking retarded
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>>147221178

What makes you think that?
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>>147220674
a 40 faith miracle hitting 450 on a naked target...

this is the power of faith...
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>>147221049
I don't know. Seeing Lodran compacted like trash, a giant bleeding sun overhead and being on a giant archtree is pretty ominous to me desu
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>>147221049
>DaS1's kiln
literally just a longer walk with a couple d00ds thrown in there
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Want to do a pyro run

What's a good weapon to make dark or chaos or use straight with pyro stats?
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>>147221386

estoc
longsword
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>>147221386
LKSw and/or AGS
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>>147221386

Chaos Thrall Axe is what I'm using and it's doing fantastic.
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>>147221289
>Seeing Lodran compacted like trash
what's up with that? is the end of fire a sort of big crunch?
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>>147221285

Since it's a phantom that's probably just the phantom's max HP.
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>>147221386
Got you senpai

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4ii8lj/heres_a_list_of_all_weapons_that_gain_an_sa/

My personal recommendations are:

Falchion/Carthus Curved Sword
Thrall Axe/Hand Axe
Longsword/Broadsword
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>>147221386
any weapon you see jap pyro bro using
thrall axe, estoc, longsword, witch's locks
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>>147221280
the bizarre way you spawn at a bonfire only to go to another bonfire that teleports you to ANOTHER bonfire. It's never done before this point in any of the other games. Also if you look behind the kiln bonfire the crumbled building almost looks like something you dropped out of to reach the kiln proper.
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>>147221181
wording this post
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What SL can I get summoned for Watchdogs at?
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>Horace is clearly a very obvious reference to Zabuso
>Uses a Lucerne instead of a Crescent Axe
Why
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>>147221514
>>147221507
>>147221480
>>147221475
>>147221437
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to test everything out on my main save and go from there
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>>147221761
Any level. What worked best for me was 30 +4 though
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>>147221801
>Being that obvious ever

that's not miyazaki-ryu
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>>147221875
1/2
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>>147221801
He uses a halberd.
Strike two, bitchnuts. One more and you're out
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>>147220985
Ok, how about answering my other questions regarding Andre? What is he adding to the story? If they needed another burly dude that occasionally says words and is a blacksmith, it could have just as easily been that deranged fuck from the Lost Bastille, or that green bloke from Majula. What is Andre contributing to DS3's story other than just being another callback?

Why does it have to be somebody who looks, talks, and acts exactly like Siegmeyer that is Yhorm's redeemer? Does Siegward actually develop as a character? All he does in his last two encounters before Yhrom is say he has a promise to keep and thats it. Does he undergo some great change? He isn't even phased by the fact that he just killed his best friend and watched you chop off his head.

See, at least Yurt has a distinct reason for what he does. Lautrec and Leonhard do what they do for the same exact reason. How about giving Leonhard a somewhat different reason for killing another NPC rather than just a mad devotion to an implied deity as was Lautrec's motivation.

Laurentius goes hollow because he loses his sense of purpose. He wants to hone his abilities as a pyromancer and when the opportunity to learn from the mother of pyromancy reveals itself he finds out that he's utterly lacking in both skill and talent due to the fact that he can't find her. Cornyx just chills at Firelink and tells you to fear the flame as if that even means anything anymore.
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>>147219354
>Shrine Handmaid - basically has no character aside from that bit about Dreamchaser and that she looks like a DS2 firekeeper
strongly have to disagree with that one

handmaiden has a consistently ominous and disturbing tone that is used to great affect, e.g. when you kill her, when you meet her in untended graves, when you turn in ash from slain NPCs...she has a lot of dialogue that both foreshadows the shrine's curse and establishes her as an obvious Atropos figure contrasting the fire keeper
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>>147221916
2/2
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>>147221801
>Zabuso
Who the fuck is that?
You didn't mean BAZUSO, THE THIRTY MAN SLAYER, did you?
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Comfiest area in Ds1?
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>>147218649
Random anon here to chime in w/ my own thoughts.

I actually think that Demon's Souls has the best characters and lore in the series. There are so many cool things that make you feel like the NPC's all know and interact with each other in the world.

For example, Ed and Boldwin are brothers. Biorr and Vallarfax are brothers too. They talk about each other.

There's the whole lore about how Sage Freke says that Saint Urbain and his followers are basically romanticizing the Old One (evil) by praying to a god-- because the Old One is essentially god.

Sage Freke is cool because he's making the best of a bad situation by using Demon's Souls to create the Soul Arts, whereas Yuria the Witch on the other hand is simply channeling the raw power of the Demons through her 'detestable dark arts'.

Yurt is the O.G. Lautrec and like 20x better. If you don't kill him, he chimps out fucking hard and kills everyone with knowledge of the Soul Arts in the Nexus .

On top of this, you have fucking Mephistopheles who wants everyone who knows Soul Arts DEAD, including you, the player-- she wishes for them to remain a secret. Her motives are basically unknown, but her name is shared with the character from the German story of Faust, which essentially means she's the Devil's worker-- and speculatively, it could be interpreted that she works for the Old One.

Dark Souls on the other hand, just has characters with motives. You see them progress, but they basically ignore the presence of other NPC's in the game other than the interaction between Lautrec and the Firekeeper.
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>>147221916
Huh, this is actually pretty good. Very customizable too. I'm not sure the extra point in vig is worth it. Isn't one of the vig caps 44? You're better off putting that point into str to use more weapons
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>>147222141
What's with the fucking spaces?
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>>147222115
Firelink Shrine before everyone goes mad and dies somewhere. And before that shithead Frampt shows up.
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>>147221484
the fire(?) seemed to be pulling lords of cinder and their domains together in lothric so that could be the final result
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the fuck is up with this swamp area in Dark Souls 3.

I get turned around, the swamp sometimes slows me down, and I can't seem to find that last damn fire I need to put out.

Did somehow find that old wolf on accident
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>>147222145
Yeah, I just dropped it in Vig as a dump stat. I went with the Knight ring so I can swap it out and not waste points in str when I don't feel like using the AGS.
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>katana fags
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>>147221278
>"Bullshit, that can't be right"
>it actually is
>it's even higher than the bandit's knife
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>>147221984
>What is he adding to the story?
The shit about Firelink.

>Siegward
Because people from Catarina are allowed to be similar? Siegward and Siegmeyer are two different people.

>Siegmeyer gets increasingly depressed because he's a mediocre knight who ends up needing your help all the time. His endings are kill myself, needlessly jump into a pit of chaos eaters and almost die then kill myself because Undead saved me, or go hollow and get killed by my daughter
>Siegward is a determined undead who is positive and only gets more determined as he runs into the Unkindled one and receives help, letting on about Yhorm and his duties a couple of times but remaining headstrong. Actually accomplishes his goals and stays a bro to the end, killing himself because his purpose is served.
Also, you don't chop off Yhorm's head literally or figuratively

>Le shotel men
Semantically it's different. Lautrec kills Anastacia either because Fina said so or because he's a huge dicklord. Leonhard kills Rosaria for her soul because she's the ultimate waifu and he knows she doesn't need it for the covenant to function, Rosaria took him in and he has this weird complex about her afterwards.

>Laurentius
Stop adding in extra steps and then ignoring the post. Laurentius' arc and 'character development' are "Thanks for saving me, new best friend. Where'd you get a chaos pyromancy? From Quelana? Okay. Now I'm hollow."

He is never ONCE that complex in nature in-game and people just lovingly fill in the gaps between him in Firelink and him in Blighttown. You also ignore the part where he's the same as Cornyx but with an ending.
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>>147222314
If you have any weapon with the weapon art "Quickstep", use it in the parts where the swamp slows you down
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>>147222141
>random unrelated thoughts that are biased and occasionally wrong
Thanks shitlord.
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>>147222324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
Play that while watching it. Makes it so much better.
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What's with the pool of players? I can't find anyone online. Just an hour ago, I was getting summoned as blue like crazy, and getting invaded like crazy. Now everyone is gone.
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>>147221916
That looks good. I was waffling between the AGS or Murakumo. I didn't want to use AGS again because I used it my last run, but fuck if I don't love that bastard something fierce
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>>147222435
no idea, I would need to check.

I am trying to do this shit as blindly as possible (started as a Pyro) and part of me feels like this swamp is supposed to be for later
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>>147222393
Yhorm's cinders of a lord, like the other cinders, is his head
so presumably you do knock it off in some manner
not that guy though
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>>147222506
I know that feel, especially when fighting the jailers.
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>>147222536
It could be. Did you go into the cathedral of the deep yet? On my first playthrough I missed that area and had to backtrack for a long time
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>>147221875

Keep in mind that due to the demands of Pyro reqs the lightest and least stat-demanding weapons with high scaling will likely be the most viable. This is why Hand/Thrall Axe are often picked: they require no further stat investment.
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>>147221984

Siegward's storyline runs somewhat parallel to the Stormruler's stated purpose as a way of killing Yhorm if he gets out of hand. It adds some depth to Yhorm, not necessarily Siegward, who just plays the same role Siegmeyer did as the bumbling counterpoint to the player character.

As for bringing back Andre, I guess it's just that they wanted to call back to the first game and they could save time on assets by just porting him in from the first.
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>>147222630
True but AGS is light when it comes to stats relative to the other large weapons. And after playing with large weapons I can't go back to tiny dinky stuff
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>>147222630
I thought about that too, but 18 dex is required for the Witchlocks anyway, that's what you need for the LKSw too, and NG sage ring + 18 dex pretty much equals max cast speed. It's basically a perfect match imo.

That's also why I am using the Knight ring in the build I posted. It means nothing is wasted on str. Just ring swap as needed.
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>>147222610
I have the first bonfire for that area and went "maybe I missed something in the area with all the crabs"

Also, is the giant tree boss supposed to be a dead end?
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>>147222314
Yurt, who remains cold and calm to the end, an assassin on a mission, is not "chimping out".

Sage Freke is flat out evil. He pursues soul arts for making humans into gods and would have you damn the world to the fog to keep his power.

>it could be interpreted that she works for the Old One.
That's just stupid. The Old One craves strong souls, like those of humans empowered by soul arts. Killing them before their time is counter productive.
A far more believable theory is just that she and her secret society want to be the only ones in power.
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>>147222947
>Also, is the giant tree boss supposed to be a dead end?
Yeah.
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>>147223019
okay. I am at least at 3 paths:
1. The elevator with Sieg with the bigass demon that pretty much wrecks me in one hit
2. The swamp with the Wolf in the tower
3. The cathedral of the deep
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>>147223208

Sieg can tank the demon while you whomp it in the ass. Go help a brother out.
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>>147223208
Do 1 first. You'll advance his quest to go to the deep and Seigward can help you fight him as well
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>>147222780

Murakamo seems like it'd be a really cool option for chaos. Spin Slash is a strong weapon art, S scaling is beastly, and it would look stylish too.
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>>147223383
I was going to try the thing where I can use an item, turn into a tree, and the giant will snipe it.

Nope, giant will not snipe it
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so what exactly did they do to the hornet ring

it still looks like a 30% damage increase
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>>147217432
>Black Knight kills him
>goes a step ahead and offs himself
>"My thanks!"
10/10
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>40/40 hornet chaos rapier riposte damage

oh fuck

i can't believe you've done this

>>147223606
they increased the modifier based on the weapon
daggers and rapiers have a higher mod, ultras stayed the same
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>>147223476
chaos kumo is A, not S
and the base is mediocre so the scaling doesn't help much
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>>147223483

There's no birch tree around, so he won't snipe it.

If you really want to just kill it with no shame, stand on the little roof below where Sieg is sitting and pull it with an arrow. It can't reach you from there, so you can just arrow it to death while its AI is bumbling back and forth between him and you.
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>>147223634
so they buffed it?
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>>147223483
If you can't kill this thing, you're going to have an awful time with the game.
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>>147223684
>>147223606

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN7hwp6iY2M
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>>147223684

Ultimately, yes, depending on the weapon. Dark Sword does something like 40 less damage on a riposte with Hornet than it used to.
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>>147223606
>you still need ~45vig WITH FAP PLUS 2 AND LIFE PLUS 3 in order survive ultra parries as a phantom
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>What is he adding to the story?
>The shit about Firelink.

Again, that could have easily just been a new character that was trapped in the nex- I mean Firelink Shrine. The reason he's in the game is most likely >>147222640 anon's reason. Also, it just adds further questions. Like why was he trapped by the Shrine. What made him so special in DS1 that warranted some freaky magic temple to trap him within its walls for the rest of eternity. Why doesn't he tell you that linking the flame is fucking pointless? I'm sure if you were trapped by some jank ass magic bullshit you would at least make it known that you've seen some shit in your time.

>people just lovingly fill in the gaps between him in Firelink and him in Blighttown

Laurentius literally asks you where you learned Quelana's pyromancy. You give him the information and he goes looking for her. Quelana can only be seen by promising pyromancers (which is why the +10 pyromancy flame is required for you as the player character to be able to see her). Unable to find her, Laurentius must have given up his hope of being anything other than mediocre and went hollow. When you say that there is no information regarding why he ends up there, all that shows is that you either don't remember his dialogue, or just don't give a damn.

>Because people from Catarina are allowed to be similar? Siegward and Siegmeyer are two different people.

So the lore on Catarina is that a significant number of its men are voiced by the same dude then? Also, why do people assume Siegward is dead after you and him DP Yhrom? Its not as if you find his gear on a corpse or anything. I'll give you that he served his purpose, but that doesn't mean he killed himself. And again, how did Siegward change throughout the story? Its never implied that he wanted to give up the life of a gallant knight.
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>>147218324
>Lothric Holy Sword
>13% FAI
Hahaha what the fuck. Goodbye future pew-pew blade build.
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>>147223702
It's more like I make one mistake and I am dead

>>147223657
Arrows can reach that far?

Also, did I fuck up if I upgraded my handax with the Fine Stone that upped the scaling?
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>>147223776

The only bone that invaders have been thrown since the game came out.
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>leaves lewd meme messages everywhere
>literal infinite health

Thanks, memers.
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>>147223795
Whoops, forgot to quote >>147222393
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>>147223879

With the free Longbow you picked up in High Wall? Yeah, just aim high to compensate for the arrow drop. It won't damage the Fire Demon but it'll draw it over to you both.
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Help please. Level 67, irithyll dungeon PC.
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>>147223795
>
It's most likely the other anon's reason, but he just like everyone else in the default Shrine insists greatly for you to relink the flame.

>
Pay attention, ultra dickhead. Laurentius has no character development, but I never said the reason that he appears in Blighttown is never stated. I even say that you tell him where to go for Chaos Pyromancies you fucking retard.

You don't actually fucking need a +10 flame to see her, hell, you don't need to even have a flame in your inventory for her to appear as long as Quelaag is killed.

>
Sit at the bonfire and watch him where he's sitting. He suddenly jerks up and does the death animation while doing the sounds of someone who is dying. His corpse drops his gear, just with the little orb.

If you get teleported out by Emma or just leave, by the time you come back the orb with his gear is there, the same one that appears when he kills himself.

If you bothered to read my posts, which I'm beginning to suspect you haven't been fully, he gets more and more friendly and determined. He's also a good cook.
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>>147224174

Nuffin betta to do. Gimme a pass
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Any tips to make DS3 get more FPS on Nvidia?

Friend has one of those 1200 budget gayman laptops so It doesn't run to bad with everything on low

That is, I'm pretty sure Nvidia is fucking the settings up on its own like for the new DOOM so I'm just asking for tips
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>>147223934
>didn't know you had a messages limit
>overwrote all my high rates ones with meme messages
;_;

>>147218324
wolnir's because useable
judgement became decent
anri's is still good
lothric sword got a big fuck you to faith users
morne's hammer is basically unchanged except now you need more faith to reach max damage (thanks for nothing)
crescent sword is probably worse honestly, 33% int on that shithouse base damage is nothing
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>>147223879
>It's more like I make one mistake and I am dead
It's so easy. You're making me cringe so hard
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>>147222324
Should've blasted him to punish a quick chug.
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>>147224320
"retard" because I'm retarded.
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>>147222324
>that zero tracking on the thrust
and to think, i was gonna use this
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>>147223208
Demon first. It's for Sieg's quest line, and there is a bunch of good items over there, but it just loops back around to the tree boss, so do that first. The Cathedral. If you do the swamp and shit first, you will screw up some encounters and have to backtrack to the cathedral anyway.
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>>147224174
>tfw no anime combos in ds3
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>>147224424
with what? i hope you don't mean the weapon art r2
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canvas or sunlight?
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>>147224440

Well look at me, I'm retarded too!

I'll put my sign back down at the entrance. Go back down to the rat pit (carefully) and there's a shortcut you can use to get there.
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>>147225206
ok. It might take my slow ass a minute to get there. so far, it was fun fighting invaders with you. One invader I actually defeated shortly before summoning you. and he invaded again after you arrived. Poor guy.
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>>147225097
Sunlight
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>>147225303
>>147225206
one sec, getting summoned as a blue.
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So wouldn't a blessed-infused Twin Dragon Greatshield (at +10) offer identical health regen to the Ancient Dragon greatshield while still having a higher damage reduction?

(Also what's the recommended level for Kiln invasions? SL90?)
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>>147225303

I have the game itself down pretty good after so many runs, but I'm really bad at PvP still due to a lack of experience. If you hadn't come through after I tanked his WA with Pers I'd probably have gotten nutted on.
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Wow, I thought my Pyro was stat heavy but this guy will prolly force me to go to lvl 95 atleast and thus bring all my other character up by 15 levels aswell.

As it stands it is at its bare minimum but I'd still need to use Havels ring, knight and hunters. Pyro and Fth spellsword are really the only builds that cannot be played at SL80 properly.

Sorcerer on the other hand was totally possible, not sure why you guy cry so much about weak sorceries. I have a high win rate in pvp at 80 with him
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>get summoned as blueberry
>host dee fucking see'd

I resent everybody who isn't some variation of red or purple now.
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do you ever JUST someone so bad you feel kinda bad for them?
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>>147225510
phew, close call successful blue mission. Going to shortcut now
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>>147225626
Once.
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>>147225794
fucking gold
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>>147225794
>losing badly
>keeps trying to parry without swinging once
>throws a lloyd's

oh wow
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>>147225794
I hope you at least sent him a message to let him know that whips can't be parried.
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>>147225626
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>>147225919
Shit, that positioning looked unfortunate as hell.
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>>147225918
>white knighting
>with a name like Lucifer

As bad as they say
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Holy shit, auto-summon covenants are the fucking worst, even the ganking ones like dogs and Aldrich.

These covenants force you to be aggressive as shit, because they leave you so thirsty for a long time. In addition, they also summon you at the worst times possible, never when you're just waiting to be summoned, which leave you unprepared mentally.
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still on my first playthrough of DS2. is it worth using a bonfire ascetic to get some NG+ stuff early?
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>>147226305
Yes
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>>147225626
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>>147226305
depends. I highly regretted NG+ ing my NG game early since once I did a regular NG+ it was a clusterfuck of NG levels that I went though.

One level would have been +1 others +2 or 3 or even higher if you farmed them a lot.
In the end you really kill the fun and ask yourself why you did not just bonfire ascetic the rest from out of NG aswell
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>>147226305
Only if you can handle the burn
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>>147226440
I only really want to do it for one area, so I feel like that's not TOO much, yeah?
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>>147225494
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>>147226492
aha giant farming? yea I did that aswell. especially if its such a dream side area thingy it prolly wont matter.
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>>147226506
Yes. You don't want to invade the Kiln
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>>147226672
hm? no I was gonna do an area in sinner's rise so I could get the old witch soul
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>>147225494
>invading kiln
Most of the time the host will just run for the fog when they're losing
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>>147226506
Why the fuck would you invade Kiln? All you're gonna get is a bunch of "Host has initiated the final battle" or the occasional gang of phantoms about to carry the host through the conclusion to his character's journey, rendering his efforts meaningless.
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>>147225510
Thanks, dude. you were very helpful. We probably missed a lot of stuff though, so I'll have to go back for some looting. That one invader almost got me. But no one can stand up to the great axe
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>>147224248
>I never said the reason that he appears in Blighttown is never stated. I even say that you tell him where to go for Chaos Pyromancies you fucking retard.

Ah, I missed that. Sorry my mistake.

>Sit at the bonfire and watch him where he's sitting. He suddenly jerks up and does the death animation while doing the sounds of someone who is dying. His corpse drops his gear, just with the little orb.

Never noticed that, I always save Yhorm for last so I guess I either never noticed Siegward dying or I get teleported before it happens.

>Laurentius has no character development
He states that he came to Lordran because he's heard that pyromancy is an acceptable pursuit in Lordran and wants to get better at pyromancy. Here, I'll give you a direct quote

>"So, the day I became Undead, I was ecstatic."
>"I felt as if I'd been chosen to attune myself to the ancient arts."

Right there is his motivation for being where he is. You're supposed to infer that because he can't find Quelana that he lost his motivation which is what causes you to turn into a mindless hollow as he eventually does. He is fundamentally changed from affable outcast to someone who most likely realized his own lack of either talent or skill which is his implied character arc. He is not a static character as you say he is. Sure, its not stated in writing why he became hollow, but that's what inference is for.

1/2
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So what's Eileen's deal? If you aren't there to help her kill Henryk she gets all blood-lusty from killing him and goes crazy like Gascoigne, but with a futa hardon for slaying Hoontahs?
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>>147227092
2/2

>>147224248
>he gets more and more friendly and determined. He's also a good cook.

I dunno man, your first encounter with him is him assisting you with killing a reskinned DS1 boss. That’s pretty fucking friendly off the bat. How exactly does he get more friendly or determined? Does he start off as some semi-standoffish dude? Does he start off the game telling you about his doubts regarding his mission and slowly becoming more sure of himself and determined? He doesn’t undergo anything special aside from, as you said, dying after the Yhrom fight.

And finally, DS1’s characters are interesting and special because of what you can infer from them as I said in my original post >>147218424. Sure, you might be able to say that Kirk’s body and gear ending up five feet away from the fair lady is a coincidence, and that the fact that you fight him in Lost Izalith has no meaning, but the things you can infer from the hints that the game gives you is what makes the idea that he is invading people so that he can give humanity to the Fair Lady is what makes DS1’s story and characters good when compared to DS3. Most of DS3’s characters don’t undergo any sort of development either outright or inferred which is what makes them so utterly lackluster.

Fucking christ I had to retype these entire posts from memory twice
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>>147225794
I remember when Eygon, Knight of Carim used a flaming gauntlet formed from a soul of a demon to swat insects out from in front of him
I liked that episode
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fight club
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>>147227079

Hyperarmor really helps in PvP, I can see that. A lot of those guys tried to trade with you and ended up getting shut down in two hits.

We didn't get the torso stone, the cursebite ring, or the onislayer bow. Didn't free Karla and there's a simple gem back in Dungeon you can go get now that you have the old cell key. I wasn't sure how to communicate to you about a few of those (for example, did you even want cursebite? I had no clue). And I figured you'd go get the stone when you were ready for Dragondildo Peak.
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>>147227414
I'm just trying to loot everything I can find. I'm only vaguely aware of my surroundings since I could resist watching a let's play before getting the game myself. But ultimately, I'm new to all this, so I don't know what I want or don't want. I just want to collect everything.

I'm aware we left the witch behind and more, but I didn't want to hold you up, and besides if we got into too many enemy encounters, then our estus would have ran out before the end.
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>>147227092
>>147227184
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Cleared up then

>
True, most people do Yhorm last but I've gotten into the habit of doing Aldrich last so I never get teleported after killing Yhorm. Siegward does in fact kill himself sadly.

>
Why would he lose his motivation if he was strong enough to reach her? He's fairly static because he doesn't change at all. His characteristics are the exact same until his death, the only difference between him and Cornyx is that he was drawn to Lordran and has a third part of his arc.

Cornyx and Laurentius are both static in the fact that their starting parts are "Get me out of this situation and I'll make you a real pyromancer."

They both show up at Firelink, unchanged, but the key difference is that Cornyx ends here, whereas you can still kill off Laurentius without much character development inbetween.

>>147227184
>
As he gets more and more familiar he acts nicer with you. When you meet him in his two elevator scenes, he greets you as a friendly acquaintance, toasts you for killing the demon with him, and that's all. The second time you meet and you give him his armor he thanks you, and in Irithyll he's very grateful to you for his rescue.

He also straight up diggidy dog hands you a titanite slab because he's at the end of his road, and the anxiety in his voice is much more noticeable than when he quickly changes the subject in the kitchen.

Also, when he dies to Yhorm he lets out a remorseful line of dialogue before dying.
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Guys pls. Posted yesterday, totally ignored.

Recommend me some buffs or weapons.
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>>147227414
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>>147227748
I'll help you if you bend over like a little teapot.
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>>147227748
Try the necromancy, dark celestial fire. It scales high with mind
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>fed Aldrich a literal deity
>enabled the corruption of Anor Londo
>led a cult dedicated to Aldrich
>enslaved a demigod and made her his bitch
>transformed her, Vordt and the others into monsters
>is a pain in the ass to kill
Is Sulyvahn the most evil character in Souls?
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>>147227968
You say that like you think the gods were good people.
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>>147228129
Feminine penis.
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>>147228236
Her having a penis doesn't make her a good guy.
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>>147228281
>her
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Hey, do you guys like cosplays? Because I sure do love cosplays
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>>147228236
>posting worst girl penis
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>Tfw no summons at Heide.
Sad. Dark Souls 3 got me hype to go back and replay Dark Souls 2. Majula is really pretty and I love how they do water in this game. I don't really remember a whole lot of the sea being in Dark Souls 3. I wish I could enjoy co-op again, but in DaS3 I'm like, 117 so I hardly get summoned, and I just started a new character in 2 so my Soul Memory is piss low. Oh well.

>>147214950
Is that Sihn?
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>>147228281
Right, but it distracts from the bad things done.
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>>147228317
sex != gender
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>>147228347
Did someone say... cosplays?
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>>147228389
wow... and with this post you are officially not only on my ignore list but on my kill on sight one aswell.

Sex = gender you fucking faggot.
If you have a dick you are a male, if you dont you are a woman. Is it that hard to understand?
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Jesus christ, the amount of hosts who try to block Dancer's spin2win.
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>>147228508
Do you really care anyways? It's not like you're gonna fuck Gwyndolin's dead corpse's pixels, so it doesn't matter what's in those pants.
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Wild West Bloodborne-esque souls game when
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>>147228481
>Wolnir's Crown
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>>147228481
I've really only got one cosplay, and it's kind of shitty.

>select at least three store fronts
>one is the entrance to a parking garage
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>>147228347
Why does the second guy look like a Shade from DS2?
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Well, King Healsnbuffs is ready to go. Armed only with support miracles and an off-hand torch to make it even easier for invaders to spot me out. As if the fucking cape wasn't enough.

It's time to see how far I can get without damaging a single enemy or invader, relying only on un-passworded co-op.

This is going to be horrible.
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>>147228684
A combination of weird lighting and playing at lowest settings
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FC WHEN
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>>147228718
Wow, good luck man, that seems like a fun run, kinda makes me wanna try another set of 10.
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>>147227862
I don't bend over, but you can have my teapot if you can handle it.
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>>147228603
What the fuck armor is that
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>>147227968
I dunno but he's definitely my favorite.
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>>147229112
It was undead legion, I don't use it anymore.
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>>147228508
gender's a mental thing these days.

>>147228603
oh yes it does

>>147229112
undead legion
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>>147228508

Language-wise they've become interchangeable through casual use, but sex is supposed to refer to biology whereas gender is supposed to refer to identity/cultural role.

Regardless of that pedantic little detail, Gwyndolin is a boy because dicks n balls are what boys have.
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>>147229297
oh yes he is.
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>>147229195
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>>147229369
pffff I-I love you too, anon.
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>>147218413
I was cosplaying a Belmont and invaded a guy at crucifixion woods. He cheered like 7x and dropped me an ember. Then he kicked my ass because I really didn't have a good hold of whip moves yet. Still I really enjoyed the whole thing.
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I wonder if Vordt and the Dancer were friends before they turned all beastly from the Pontiff's rings. They have rooms opposite each other, and they were both sent away from their home in Irithyll to some horrible warm and humid place to guard some shit neither of them really cared about.
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>>147229195
so did you kill him?
are you going into NG+?
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>>147229551
Hell no I'm not, he was my 10th character, a ghostly dead copy of my first one, and after 500something hours I don't think I could handle NG+ in sl1 without getting tired.
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>>147229501

Which Belmont? I was doing classic NES Simon for a while, but I never quite got his face or fashion right and ended up deleting him.

Still planning to try again, but I couldn't for the life of me settle on the right outfit pieces. Hard Leather and Bandit both kind of work, but still look off in a way that irritates me.
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>>147227748
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>>147229501
Are you gonna get the witch locks? for y'know, the fire whip.
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>>147229461
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>>147227698
>Why would he lose his motivation if he was strong enough to reach her?

He might have been able to make it to lower Blighttown, but that doesn't mean he could see her. Remember, Laurentius states that a pyromancer's flame develops alongside its owner's skill (which for game purposes just means that you pump souls into it). As has been said before, one of the ways that Quelana shows up for the player is by having a +10 flame. Lets just agree that the other two ways (the bug regarding being able to trigger her appearance by having a phantom or invader in your world with a +10 flame and killing Quelaag) are unavailable to him for story reasons. You're supposed to infer that because his flame wasn't as developed as yours he was unable to see Quelana. This is even evident when you look at his equipment and see that he only has a +8 flame. And considering that her only other pupil was Salaman, a fucking legend, being talented at pyromancy is a big deal to her.

>As he gets more and more familiar he acts nicer with you. When you meet him in his two elevator scenes, he greets you as a friendly acquaintance, toasts you for killing the demon with him, and that's all. The second time you meet and you give him his armor he thanks you, and in Irithyll he's very grateful to you for his rescue.

I'm not seeing a particularly big jump in his friendliness based on that much. I'd say he's consistently nice to you throughout the entire game.

Looking back on his tone when speaking to him throughout the game, I'll concede that he is undergoing a bit of a character change. He starts off happy-go-lucky in his early encounters and slowly becomes more serious, as you mentioned after he gives you the titanite slab.
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>>147229727

The way I worked it out for Simon was Sharp Whip (Vampire Killer), Sharp Notched Whip (Thorn Whip), and Witch's Locks for the Flame Whip. Build was DEX/INT/FAI.

Daggers (base type only), Firebombs (Holy Water), and then Wrath of the Gods for Grand Cru.
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>>147229620
that's unfortunate. sl1 run really picks up on higher NG cycles because your relative damage is not as insane anymore. it feels less noticeable in DaS3 though, with bleed being so good
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>>147230084
wouldn't it be better to use throwing knifes? since simon THROWS them?

>>147230162
Huh, I never used bleeding on my sl1 run.
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>>147229637
>>147229727
It's a SL40 invader build.
10/301/10/10. I used knotched whip & either carthus flame or rouge it. When things get stale I'll parry & follow up with knife riposte (like a stake I guess). Oh and I throw a lot of knives and bombs. I like low SL invasions, but I also think this build would be more fun at 80...
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>>147230201

Oh drat, that's what I meant. Base type as in no poison daggers or kukri.
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>>147230215
10/30/10/10....god 301 dex would rek. It's surprising how many people don't know how to deal with whips...
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>>147230215

I think the knife riposte fits the cosplay. Every Belmont has a dagger somewhere on them in their concept art. I think Simon has a shortsword in some of his, even.
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>>147230268
Nice, I'd say an axe too, but he also throws them.
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>>147219794
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>>147215147
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>>147230358
Pic related. I want Leonhards gear, but I have to get past pontiff......limiting myself to the knife & whip in PVE makes that fight ridiculously hard....
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>>147230201
bleed is fucking broken in DaS3, it feels like cheating sometimes
you can kill Dancer with Rouge and Bandit Knife right after you kill AW and get the Milkring and it takes about 2 minutes. on NG+ and beyond you can use Grave Warden's on her and kill her even faster, because they can stagger her more often (or at least it feels like it). Crystal Sage bleeds every 2 hits with Bandit Knife buffed with Rouge so you can kill him without him even entering phase 2 sometimes
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OHOHOHO THE ASHEN ONE PLEASES OLD HOLLOWS FOR SOULS
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>>147230676
Huh, I used a crossbow to kill her.
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>>147230810
>>147230676
What's the point in killing her early? Isn't most of the good shit locked behind an arbitrary wall until you beat the other lords anyway?
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My prediction for the DLCs:
Linking the fire doesn't kill you apparently, as seen with the lords. DaS 3 is an All-Stars remix of the franchise. There are 2 DLCs. There are two prequels. We'll fight Chosen and Cursed undead in them respectively.
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>>147230952
You're saying it like I killed her early, look at my flask level in that screenshot.
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>>147228843
>Infusing a weapon that has natural lightning split damage with chaos.

For what purpose, anon?
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>all these hosts summoning 3 phantoms for the Dragonslayer Armour
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>>147231042
It's more fun when he has more health though. I soloed him and was disappoint at how quickly he died.
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>>147231012
NK is resistant to lightning, weak to fire, I wasn't going to upgrade another weapon just for him. I infused it back with lightning after.
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>>147230674
Not the guy you're replying to, butI have an extra set of Leonhard's outfit on one of my guys. I can give them to you if you want
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>>147231106
PC? (blah blah, I know collectors edition....I wanted this guy to be legit so I've stayed away from CE)
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>>147231084
Do you want a medal or something? You keep going on about how you solo'd bosses like it's some kind of achievement.
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>>147231253
Yeah pc. We can meet at the first bonfire at the high wall. Pass is dsg. Look for Lowen
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>>147231303
omw, 3 couldn't invades in a row. Waiting for this one to cancel out.
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>>147231280
>Do you want a medal or something?
Wait, is that an option? Yes, please.
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What would be better? Chaosing a AGS or slapping Carthus Flame Arc on it?
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Honest question.
Why are (You) still playing ds3?
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>meet patches at firelink before sending greirat off to irithyll
>tell patches that greirat went there, says he's going to prep and go there too
>go kill fire demon in smouldering lake like usual at this point
>find that greirat hasn't returned at all
>ended up dying somehow
how come patches didn't save him this time? yes he did have all of sieg's armour and his shield
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>>147231426
Patches never worked for me either. Siegward saved him 100% though
I'm starting to think the whole Patches-saving-Greirat thing is a meme
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so when is the DLC coming out
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>>147230810
never tried that. i only use crossbow for punishing her AoEs, but it feels like you can actually roll into them at the very end of the animation and hit her with the running attack.

i have minor brain damage though and can't dodge most of her attacks on reaction, but if you stay behind her and slightly to the right, she only does like 4 different attacks and only 2 of them are fast. killing her with crossbow probably means that you'll end up being in front of her most of the time - i wish i could try all those fun different strats like using ranged and great weapons and such, but i'm locked into doing the same shit again and again
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>>147231398
For Pyromancers, if the weapon you want to chaos infuse has SHIT scaling, don't do it.

If it has GOOD scaling, do it.
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>>147231414
I like it. I like it more than 2, maybe even the first game if I'm honest. I like the level design again, because it feels like the first game rather than the second. The game hits a lot of the right notes for me. It's not a perfect game; it has it's flaws. But nothing's perfect, and I enjoy this game.
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>>147231531
The very second you, specifically, no longer have the money for it.
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>>147231303
Chillin at highwall, don't see your sign though.
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>>147231353
I can wait
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>>147231414
its hella fun and a lot more balanced than the previous games imo, cant w8 for dlc
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>>147231498
patches saved him every single time for me except this time which i found very odd
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>>147231646

Just realized I had my white sign down instead of my red >>147231651
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>>147231559
I played 10 characters, the 8 in >>147228481 and the 2 in >>147229620 . I kinda learned to use different strategies to make the game fun, I wouldn't have over 550 hours of gameplay otherwise, I did use melee for the first phase on dancer tho.
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>>147231697
>lot more balanced than the previous games
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>>147231414
It really depends on the day. I sometimes love going up 3v1 or the occasional 3v2 that happens with AFs and DMs.

also so many quality of life changes
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>>147231725
I got my rings already, thanks though!
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>>147231414
I stopped asking myself that at the 300th hour. I did stop playing for a couple weeks since I got more games tho.
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I bet DLC will have a straight sword that gets A/A scaling on refined, and the ring of blades
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>>147231849
No problem, build looks pretty fun so far
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>>147231559
>i have minor brain damage though
What, for real?
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>>147232008
yeah, the only thing I run into that is kind of lame is that there are only 3 moves that are really viable MH whip. Dodge R1, unlocked R2 (for that crazy 270 spin) and weapon art.
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planning on replaying Dark Souls 1. my first time I did halberd+pyromancy. any suggestions for a build this time around?
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>>147229540
Maybe comrades. Dancer and Vordt both mutated differently compared to the other Pontiff knights. Considering Pontiff had a likely lust for Dancerwho can blame him?, I'd imagine there was something with Vordt that he took an interest in. Maybe it was his strength, and that's why he became a muscular brute while Dancer became a giant dancer. He probably deployed them in this case to try to stop the next Lord of Cinder from reaching the Princes and igniting the flame. As he does want to bring about the age of the Deep.
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>>147231498
patches only saves him if he still has the onion armor I think as he presumably imitates siegward since you get the same line from greirat about an onion knight
it happened on my first playthrough for me, while onion man was still in the well
I like to think patches likes helping greirat but doesn't want his thuggish exterior to be compromised so he pretends to be siegward

only complication i can think of is if greirat is sent after siegwards already left the kitchen it might cancel patches
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Havel teamed up with Havel to take down NK
So what did you do today, /dsg/?
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>>147232185
Found my favorite reaction image and stuck it in the folder
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A false confession. Stop trying to suck people in to your beautiful stories. :D
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>>147228347
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>>147232520
wat
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Man, I wanna make a sorcerer build for invasions with immolation tinder but the requirements for it are so damned high. (18 for dex, 12 for faith, that's another 10 SL)

Don't wanna sacrifice my int for it. Worst case scenario I could swap life ring for scholar's ring and shave off 5 points off of it but it's still not enough.
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So if i make a family share account, i can CE all i want without any harm of my main account being held responsible right even if i get banned eventually?
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>>147231739
i remember Allahu Akbar. you threw a firebomb when summoned, that was pretty fun

>>147232065
yes. prescribed drugs fucked with the chemical balance or something like that. i've been told that it'll go away eventually, but it's been 1.5 years now and i thinks it's here to stay

it's really minor though. some guy here plays with an electrode in his head and he got to NK somehow, no idea how he managed to do that
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>>147232605
Fuck, also needs 18 strength so I gotta be at 12 to 2hand it. That's another 16 SL.

Fuck FROM.
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>>147232698
Yeah, I tried to do my best to make the stereotypes fit the role, M'lady with fedora tipping, Allahu with firebombs, 6 million with coins, etc etc.
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>>147232698
>some guy here plays with an electrode in his head
That's me, actually. I just didn't realise the medication stuff had caused permanent damage, I assumed it was a temporary thing. Guess we can be brain damage buddies!
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>>147232670
You will probably get bored quicker.
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Do I have to be chaos servant +2 at all times to access the izalith shortcut? Does it persist through NG+?
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>>147233125
did you beat NK?
someone here gave you pretty good advice - with high VIG, greatshield and Bug Pellets you can probably kill him without actually needing to dodge
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>>147233290
IIRC you ONLY keep your current covenant and its rank.

e.g. sunlight warriors will remain +2 and a sunlight warrior in NG+ so they can offer Gwyn's big ass soul

However all shortcuts reset, so you have to open it again, so the fastest way to open it again would to remain a +2 Chaos Servant
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Daily reminder that if you use straightswords in pontiff duels then you should stop
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>>147233473
So what weapon is shitty enough that you approve of it then? Anything you consistently beat and only that?
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>>147233169
No i mean for fucking with people online, not to make pve easier
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>>147233341
I started another character, so I could come back to that one fresh, kind of thing, later.
I've beaten him on my first character already, and that was a quality build, which if anything should be harder to do it with than a pyromancer. I was just really discouraged after beating my head against him for a while, I guess, and trying it with a migraine in addition to my usual issues certainly didn't help things.
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Hey /dsg/ i have a Dragonslayer Swordspear +5 to give out for free, platfrom is ps4, pass is dsg, white sign at pontiff arena
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So how do I consistently jump attack/kick? I can't seem to get it down and sometimes I attack and sometimes I kick/jump attack
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>>147233804
>white sign at pontiff arena
do you mean drop a white sign or pick one up?
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>>147233851
Drop a white sign, i'll summon.
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>>147233804
I realized you said Dragonslayer Swordspear+5 and I thought it was Dragonslayer Spear instead. I already got one of those, could've used the spear though, sorry brah.
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>dragon tooth 1h jump attack into R1
Holy fuck that R1 comes out instantly
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>>147233869
Don't need it, I have one. I was just curious. I should give out free stuff some time soon, like this damn MLGS I can't use.
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>>147233809
Jump attacks are running R2s, although you can do them from a stationary position if you just press forward and R2 at the same time

Kicks, I can't fucking tell you though.
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>>147233975
You could give it to me if you want!
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>>147233982
I get running R2s, but I have the same problem with them as kicking when trying to do it from stationary
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>>147233909
Dragon Tooth is my favorite Greathammer to be honest

You're the second person that isn't me who I've seen use it though, it's underrated
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>>147233909
>If you press R1 after junping attack you'll do a rolling attack
>But only when 1handing
BUT WHY
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What's the best talisman (for PvP)

and what is the best chime (for PvE)?

Im going to do a faith/miracle only with no offhand weapon
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>>147234302
for pvp it's either canvas or sunlight, for pve just use yorshka's
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>>147234389
sunlight is shit, like 20 spell buff left and canvas has enough hyperarmor to stand against anything while you're casting
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>>147232185
How painful is a Havel cosplay in the DkS3 meta?
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>>147233796
if you fight him with any ranged weapon, his AI often can't do anything about it - he starts walking towards you occasionaly doing ranged attacks and charges, so Vestiges will probably kill him without too much trouble.
i still have no idea how you killed Dancer though - she seems so much faster than NK. even if you stay behind her, she can do that lean back into slam attack with like fraction of a second telegraph
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why did people cry about the Farron GS again?
I have the base stats to use it and at +1 i just hit a guy for a whopping 70 damage, and it cant even combo
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>>147234617
Every half competent quality build is going to kick your ass
Fortunately there are quite a number of not-so-competent people out there
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>tfw S rank in co-op evaluation in Demon's Souls
>tfw getting summoned at all
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>>147234617
Not too bad, especially since you don't have to level dex by a single point. Just tricky. The greatshield fucks with weight balancing though.
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>>147234720
>it cant even combo
press L1
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>>147234762
yes but you cant do R1 R1 like you can with a fair few greatswords.
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>>147234302
depends on the fai, check image.
but this >>147234389 should do

Also, whats the point of the white hair talisman?
it's shit compared to the pyro hand and the worst miracle spell tool.
is it meant to just buff and non-scaling magic?
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>>147234843
You totally can
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>>147229719
Am I supposed to feel insulted or something?
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Is this alright for a black knight build?
I do feel like 1500 hp is on the lower side but if I drop dex to 18 I lose a lot of AR.
I know it's level 120 mey mey but trying to make this build work at a lower level is hard when I need the vitality to use heavy armor, a greataxe and having enough stam to swing it and block.
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>>147234934
There is no feeling, only dreams
There are no dreams either however
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>>147234992
>27 vigor at sl120
you don't want to
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>>147234758
you having fun with the 40 people still playing?

how's the wait?
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>>147234992
>27VIG
enjoy getting 2shotted by any UGS
Should also mention every UGS WILL stunlock you into a 2hit combo
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>>147235167
>>147235236
That's what I'm fearing. I could drop dex to 18 and push my hp up to 1900 ish, but then I'll lose around 70 AR.
Cosplay is suffering. They need to buff vital- I mean Cosplay points.
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>>147232110
anyone got any suggestions?
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>Dark Sword finally addressed
>Only 5% less damage
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>>147235263
You think 32 VIT is a lot heh
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>>147234992
>>147235167
>>147235236
>>147235263
>having to dump into a useless stat just to be able to wear your favorite aesthetic armor
DaS3 was a mistake.
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>>147235314
it means that broad sword is now the highest damage.
It was a fair nerf, anymore would be too much as the longsword is almost as good now
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>>147235330
But that's fine because dragon tooth only scales with Str and not dex. Black knight weapons benefit from both, so you can either have less hp or gimped weapon damage.
It's shit. SHIIIT!
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>>147235334
I just wish VIT was tied to END
That way I can actually wear heavy armor without having 100 less AR than everyone else
Speaking of heavy armor, has anyone noticed the best and heaviest armor of the game are all from DS1? Have they really run out of ideas this quick?
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>>147235381
Yes but you get to mid-roll.
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>>147235334
splitting endurance and equip load was a mistake
ds3's only mistake is that it copied a number of RETARDED ds2 design decisions like this one or the seed
if equip load should be influenced by something, it should be a fucking STR
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>>147235330
>prisoner's chain Havel
You sorry fool
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>>147235408
>the best and heaviest armor of the game are all from DS1? Have they really run out of ideas this quick?
Why would they deliberately make heavy armor useless and then go and waste time by adding in new heavy armor sets?
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So, who's the strongest NPC enemy in Souls history?

Old King Doran or Crowsteel the Edgemeister?
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>>147235429
Splitting the two would have made sense if they had actually kept DaS1 style poise. As it stands, it was just a retarded idea.
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>>147235330
>prisoners chain at SL128

W H Y
H H
Y Y
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>>147235429
>combine VIT and END as it used to be
>everyone wears cathedral knight or similar heavy armor with their card captor sakuras

no
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>ENB uploading hearthstone videos
Why am I even subscribed to this scrub. Is this what he's come to?
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>>147235465
Burgerking, because I can beat Darksteel the Hedgeheg without cheesing.
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>>147235465
Doran by a mile.
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>>147234875
WHT is just a gimmicky thing, wich is a shame since Crystal Chime is a great hybrid tool
I used it for shits and giggles in PvE for a while during early NG+2 but i wouldnt dream of using it in PvP or vs something like NK
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>>147235509
>Elajjaz now streams Dead By Daylight exclusively
Souls is dead.
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How are the exiles related to Farron and the Watchdogs? Their masks are around the wolf as well as Undead Legion masks, and the two you kill it says their weapons/armour are of the Legion.

Did they recruit criminals but not let them into the real legion or something? Or are they remnants after the wolf blood dried up when they linked the flame? If so, why are they in the masks and chains?
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>>147235502
it is already possible to wear 20+ absorption armor with carthus curved, tying equip load to end won't change it
on the other hand it will give more space for str and cosplay builds
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>>147235470
>>147235453
It add VIT dammit, that's how desperate I was to not gimp myself too hard
I could just swap out the untrue dark for ring of steel protection or something
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>>147235429
>or the seed

There's nothing wrong with it, it's useful against shitty invaders who hide behind enemies.
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>>147235575
wondered where my nigga went. fuck, 3 really is the worst souls game.
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At last....

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/51345
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>>147235579
okay
let me rephrase
everyone wears 25+ absorption armor with an estoc, black knight shield, backup ultra weapon for ripostes, and CCS

you really don't realize how bad it would be

the 25% equip load break point was in DaS1 for a good reason
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>>147234992
hue
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>>147235635
>ring of steel protection
i wish i still had my laughingwhores.jpg folder

>he doesn't know
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>>147235804
please enlighten me
also
>having an entire folder dedicated to one picture
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>>147235662
Everything is wrong with a fucking seed, if invader is running just summon 2 phantoms and hunt his ass like i did against jap runners in ds1 townshit. And allowing that trash to be usable when host has phantoms in his world is BEYOND FUCKING RETARDED.
>>147235713
In DS1 ability to use a lot of heavy equipment forced you to invest like 70 into endurance.
Estoc turtles who will want to carry a lot of stuff will need to do the same.
Meanwhile all other builds will get more breathing room when it comes to fashion and setup choices.
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>>147235804
Here you go friend. I recently just moved all my old reaction images from my laptop to my new pc.
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>>147235848
Rings that add absorption have massively reduced effect in pvp.
RoSP+2 only gives about 4% absorption from players.
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>>147235848
steel protection +0 gives 2% phys damage reduction in pvp
+2 gives 4%

this goes for almost every single item or buff that gives you more defense or more attack power

however, EVERY NEGATIVE PENALTY REMAINS THE SAME
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>>147235216

in the mid/late evenings, waits are moderately bearable. it's certainly a case of placing a sign down in an obvious spot and doing something else on another monitor, hopefully anticipating. sort of like fishing. playing into the dead of night (as i currently am) it's a ghosttown.

as for gameplay, it's a bit terse as many people never learned how to access the gestures menu. definitely a different vibe from the online shenanigans of das3. most of my enjoyment comes from observing how differently people approach the level design of demon's. the geography is pretty damn well done.
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Vit is just a bad stat to be honest
Having a stat entirely dedicated to choosing which armour you can wear is pretty fucking dumb when armor makes such a little difference anyway.

If armour made it so short swords or slashing weapons were much less effective, or actually had some kind of gameplay mechanic involved that made heavy armour worth it but it doesn't, so the stat is just a tax on fashion essentially.
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>>147235804
There needs to be a list of all rings in DS3 and how useful/shit they are for PVE and PVP
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>>147235936
FUCK ME
I should level to 138 then use K***hts ring then I guess
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does the weapon buff glitch still work?
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>Let's make a stat that's essential if you want to wear any heavy armor, then make heavy armor useless
Wew, Fromsoft
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>>147232573
>Bis**p Havel
>Y**rm
MAKE IT STOP
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>>147236051
And this is after bloodborne which allowed to use whatever the fuck you wanted to.
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>you only ever get ONE point from each vitality level
>not breakpoints where you can get multiple carry weight added at a time
FROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>147236151
Why are you complaining? That just means that 99 vit is a perfectly legitimate investment for mid-rolling in heavy armor. :^)
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>>147235913
alright, fuck it
let's say the VIT stat is gone, merged into END
everyone that levels END to 40 now has 40 effective points of VIT

here's a SL115 build with that in mind, SL120 is unnecessary now

look at this bullshit
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/51349
(subtract 40 levels)

now wait, you don't actually need all that shit to be effective
let's tone it down and see what we get

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/51351

it's a fucking full havel monster with carthus curved sword, a shield, and no prisoner's chain!
this shit would be everywhere!
you would not have a reason not to wear havel's if END and VIT were combined
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>>147236051
>Also let's put in some really nice looking heavy armor that you'll never get to wear unless you dedicate 20 stat points purely for fashion reasons

wew
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is that thing where you can 'store' a running attack still in the game?

i cant remember how to do it, its something to do with blocking whilst 2H right?
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>>147236239
>everyone that levels END to 40 now has 40 effective points of VIT
except i never said that
of course values will need to get adjusted accordingly
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>>147236151
>literally a dump stat for any build that isn't using a str ultra weapon
>str doesn't even give armor scaling like in ds2
;_;
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>>147236241
>can use almost full lorian's set on my pyro with carthus curved or lothric knight sword
>to make a full lorian cosplay i need to invest like 20 levels into a useless stat
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What's a good greatsword for pure STR builds?
>>
memehackzaki
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I'd really love it if
STR gives 0.5 equip load for every level
END gives 1 equip load for every level
But that's just wishful thinking.
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>>147236327
that was how it was in das1
if you mean to nerf VIT, wow, holy shit, you're just really retarded then, that would be even worse than equal leveling
VIT already only gives 1 equip load per level regardless of level which is the worst it's ever been

nerfing that further would destroy STR builds who now suddenly need 80 END to have heavy armor and a heavy weapon

great
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>get Flamberge on a character that doesn't need it as early as the Undead Settlement on the thrall above the umbral ash

Well fug. Good thing this char is heading for quality.
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Well, fuck.
And to think I avoided rolling because I found it unrealistic.
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>>147236679
>no ninja flip
2/10
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>>147236650
You think you know pain?
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>>147236679
it's not unrealistic to be able to roll in (some) armour

it's unrealistic that that would ever be a remotely suitable option in any kind of combat. If you're in a swordfight it begs them to either just kick you, or stop you with their feet, or stab at you, or any of the above.

if you're trying to dodge projectiles it just slows you down and gives you a wider horizontal target (incidentally making it worse since archers are far more likely to miss behind/in front of you than over your head)
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>>147236760
This is why I try to never roll in Dark Souls, and always get my ass kicked.
The game is designed for you to exploit the invincibility frames.
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>>147236679
Armor doesn't really slow you down if it's fitted right. Articulated plate like that is fairly light and free compared to fucking chainmail.
It just kinda adds more momentum / weight to your movements and requires more effort to move in.
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>all these tards thinking they know how to """""""""""fix""""""""""" the game
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>>147236570
>if you mean to nerf VIT
stop putting words in my mouth fucktard
introduce different equip load returns based on end breakpoints, for starters
for example give best returns past 40 end so str builds will need at best 10 more stat investment for massive boost in armor and survivability your typical quality shitter will spend for dex scaling, vigor or tears of denial
also change the way havel's ring works, give it a positive equip load STR scaling but negative DEX scaling so it would be usable for STR builds only
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>>147236964
I think I would rather have well intentioned /dsg/ members balancing dark souls 3 rather than From "nerf FUGS by 130 AR but only nerf dark sword by 9" Software
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>>147236964
Fixing the game is easy.
Just give stamina to the enemies and the bosses so that they don't constantly spam attacks.
>>
Haven't played since a few weeks after release.

Miracles still shit? Greatshield tanking still ridiculous?
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>>147236760
Dark Souls would be way better if it used Bloodborne's quickstep dodge instead of rolling.
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I want to make a build in DS1 but I don't have any ideas. Do you have any /dsg/? I'm fine as long as it doesn't include sorceries
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>>147232520
>>147232576

Sry second half was in the wrong thread.
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You know, i'm kinda amazed that Bloodborne has the best balance of all games with minimal amount of balancing patches most of which buffed arcane.
Really don't understand why the fuck they let some randoms balance DS3.
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>>147237154
>tfw mustard race and never got to play BB
>tfw massively into lore and the BB lore looks incredible

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>147237208
just get a piss4 bruh:^)
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>>147237154
Dunno, you would still magically walk through anything.
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>>147237038
I think From Software cares very little about what everybody excluding Japan thinks of what and what should not be fixed.
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>>147237154
what is more hilarious, berenike knights in ds1 are using a slowed-down quickstep
in a fucking ds1, a five years old game
and they never understood that this mechanic would make more sense than rolling
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>>147237154
have you considered the following though:

bloodborne quickstepping full havel cosplay
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>>147237275
nah im gonna buy a stupidly expensive computer and play the wicher 3 and look at triss's ass in 4k instead
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>>147237275
ps4 is just now getting enough games for me to wanna buy it desu. Although that's kinda a shame since new console generation seems to be coming up
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>>147237334
Actually pretty much everything in DaS1 quicksteps, and the hollow thieves even do a ninja flip
Bosses, nearly every humanoid enemy, even Iron Golem had a backwards "quick" step
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Are backstep hits ever useful?
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>>147237796
reverse backstep hits can surprise some people
can also set up backstabs
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>>147237159
>shameless bump
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what if infusing with heavy or sharp gave similar scaling to magic, with the greatest returns between 40 and 60?
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>>147237159
What did you play before?
You could make a barbarian build, pump point into strenght, vitality and endurance and use a great club as soon as you get to blightown, this shit stomp everything
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>>147238113
I played quality (main build), pure str and Dex faith
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>>147237354
I'm just going to wait for some shmuck to put his PS4 up for sale when he wants a next gen
Not going to spend that much cash on a machine with only 3 real games i want to play
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>at least 10 invaders yesterday were trying to abuse black knight greatsword combo
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>>147238157
I would like to use Artorias's Greatsword (Holy one) but it only becomes useful at like sl200
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>>147238217
What's the combo?
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>early game pyro with fire orb
>mediocre damage completely not worth the ring and stat investment
>GCFO
>literally melts everything in matter of seconds, even supposedly resistant bosses
Why is this game so all or nothing? I don't even want to think how they were balancing it
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>>147238443
2 handed r1 into unlocked charged r2 where you hit them with the back hit and turn into the sky launch.
big damageges
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>trying to duel/invade someone using a straightsword in early game

god they're annoying lategame but they're fucking disgusting earlygame

some guy just swung 7 fucking times without stopping and each hit was doing 20% of my hp.

b u s t e d
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>>147238527
Thanks senpai
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>want to do some jolly co-op
>go to dragonslayer armor
>host makes the fight way harder by summoning more than a single phantom

It's honestly easiest by yourself, but one phantom can be useful. Two and it becomes a fucking war of attrition, FUCKING THREE and now he's an unkillable wall of health you have to slowly grind through. Why do people do this?

He's literally WAY harder no matter how good or bad you are at the game with 2 or more phantoms.
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Hey /dsg/, I just got Ds1 after running through Ds3 a few times and want tom know a few things. As a Knight, should I worry about stopping myself from fatrolling early gane, and how much does poise actually affect the game? Otherwise I want to aim for as a blind a playthrough as possible.
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>>147238783
You should get rid of fatroll asap, poise makes the game a lot easier but in some instances too much poise will get you killed
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>>147238783
Get at least a medium roll early game; fast preferrable, get a good shield with 95%/100% block on physical
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>>147238762
I've run into this sooooo many times on my tank build. One time I saw the host summon 3 phantoms.......I was the only one left standing because "muh great magic shield'....I thought BC'ing out...
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>>147238506
>>GCFO
What's the quickest way to get it?
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>>147238783
fatrolling is be pretty bad
poise allows you to not get staggered when you get hit by some attacks which lets you escape combos sometimes
shields are really good in DaS - the game will get a lot easier if you use a shield with high stability
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>>147238762

I always summon as many people as I can so we can all have fun together ;_;
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>>147239295
>fighting ten billion health bosses
>fun

I mean, the bosses you can just stunlock or DPS race, yeah, easy as shit with lots of phantoms. Those you can't are hellish.
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peaceful life with crow family
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>>147238506
souls games have always had an issue with balancing magic

its always been complementary to melee builds or dusk crown glass cannons
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>>147238996
Kill Vordt and Abyss watchers, skip everything else.
Takes like 1 hour of playtime to get to it
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crow wife thighs
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>>147239579

How did you do that? Where are you?
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>>147239581
Miyazaki found a perfect balance in bloodborne and it's a shame we massively devolved back in DS3 instead of pushing forward.
I mean, there's shit like flashsword or sacred flame already. Stop doing direct projectile spells. Give them all unique utility at least like it was with parrying augur. Give unique magic weapons like Kos Parasite.
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>>147239579
>>147239654
What kind of mod is this? PLaying as a velka crow?
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>>147238217

I don't blame them.. the combo is flashy as fuck.
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/dsg/ would anyone of you fine anons be willing to help transfer an item between 2 characters of mine?
PC
Tower on the Wall Bonfire
Pass; dsgtrade
Item: Morion Blade
Charcters: Twiddlebiscuits & Comradecommi

I dont want to overlevel a character and got to NG+3 just for the sword, and the other cant use it anyways.
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>>147238217
its a cool weapon
id use it if it gave me a sheaf for it
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>>147240527
im rdy for my 2nd asspounding
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>>147239792
i agree, mind you the magic system in BB wasn't quite the same as the ones in the souls series (more of a fancy addition to the shooting system), its still a considerable improvement
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>bought DS2:SotFS
>appeal of the game is that you can get invaded literally anytime anywhere
>killed 3 Old Ones, on my way to the 4th
>literally zero (ZERO) invasions

I wish Reddit would revive this game too.
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>>147240739
No but see, lol, hating on DS2, lol, is the cool thing to do, lol, like my e-celeb streamers tell me to, lol
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>>147239804
>>147239781

debug exe

play as anyone within certain limits
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>>147240739
nigga i never got a SINGLE invasion in ds2 past my first playthrough outside of bell towers
blame retarded invasion system that penalizes invaders so much it's not fucking worth it
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>>147240657
Thanks Gatsu, i was sweating bullets hoping that you wouldnt notice me casting WoG with a chime there
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>>147241000
dont sweat it bud i got no idea wat im doing 90% of the time
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>>147240918
SO FLUFFY
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>wog of the buffed wolnir's sword does like twice the damage of lighting stake
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>>147241376
how fast is it?
what's the damage like when you get to 500+AR?
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>>147228347
>Someone actually in cosplay
>Pulls out a meta weapon when things go sour
every time
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>>147240918

Priscilla was going to be the level up waifu...
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>>147241376
Does it even have hyper armour ?
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>>147228389
According to Yorshka, Gwyndolyn considered himeself a guy though.
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>>147230952
MLGS, DSGA, and Chaos Blade. Blessed Weapon and early trigger for Irina's good end if you're a FAI guy.
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>>147236375
>Basuzo Build
>Have to go to SL80 to about fatrolling with the Greataxe
Crescent Axe seems like a better choice now.
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Is DaS 3 the spookiest game in the series yet?
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>>147241696
>invaded in jesus christ woods
>guy in full dancer's armor
>oh cool, a cosplayer
>mfw he pulls out two rouged carthus swords
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Holy fuck Blessed Weapon is like a fucking supernova. My eyes are dead.
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>Fighting overly passive Card Captors with a LUGS
Nah
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Any FC going on?
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>>147243869
Isn't it fun?
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>>147243515

No, why would you think that? Bloodborne and Tower of Latria are spookier.
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>>147243568

Wait, it finally looks like it's supposed to and not just like magic weapon?
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Why do we dislike DaS2's Soul Memory system again?
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>>147244382
About as much fun as having a nice 4-win streak vs non-captors and having it broken by a DMB Washing Pole parryspammer Hornet dude
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>>147243515
Lower New Londo was spooky as fuck, especially with the marinated corpse piles
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>>147244515
Bloodborne isn't spooky at all, Tower of Latria is as spooky as Irithyll Dungeon, a DaS3 still has a couple more spooks up its sleeve
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>>147244698
*and
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>>147244698
>first time looting from screaming corpse
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>>147244698
>bloodborne
>not spooky at all

upper cathedral ward, anon
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>>147244823
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>>147244670
I fucking love this game's pvp.
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>>147244665
Because it fixed minmaxing.
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>>147245158
I'm slowly seeing the same thing i saw later in DS1&2's lifecycle; people using 'fun' builds and not necissarely using the FotM
Slowly the tryhards fade away, at least until the DLC
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About to start a sorcery character.
I got a question, would there be a damage penalty if I don't fulfill the Faith requirement for Immolation Tinder?
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>>147245158
I can practically hear him yelling "Dark Souls was a mistake."
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What kind of weapon is good for STR build DS1, killed Nito and I'm about to drain the water from the shit.
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>>147245350
i dont know but following the pattern it would deal less fire damage and would bounce off bigger enemies. maybe a slower cast too
>>147245438
>ignoring the ghosties
great hammers get the best str scaling. my personal favorite is large club
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>>147244865
Eh, don't find it really creepy. I like the location, it does have a spooky feeling, but a curious spooky feeling, like a haunted manor or something, while with some locations like the aforementioned Irithyll Dungeon I just wanted to get the fuck out as fast as I can
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>switching to a hollow quality leo lucerne against a bloodring gotthards spammer
>he gets caught in more than 1000 damage combos
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>>147245438
but good luck farming the snakes
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>>147245701
I got that on like the first or second snake kill. Is it good?
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>>147245438
if you're interested in pve alone just get yourself dragon ultra weapons, probably the most flashy str weapons in series
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>>147245646
>Glaive's out-cancer Gotthards
No surprise, actually.
Glaives are basically the epitome of unassailable passive shittery. Beating them basically involves waiting forever for them to make a mistake, or pulling out a gargoyle spear and out-spacing them while never, ever making a mistake.
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>>147245753
the what?
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This better be a fucking joke
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>>147245746
one of the worst greatswords actually, but str builds are so bad they can't really complain
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>>147245646
I need something now that AGS is ruined. Is Leo+Lucerne still viable?
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>>147245851
What? How is STR bad? Its my first playthrough, and I had no problems so far.
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>>147245875
Yes, just so long as you have no reliance on an offhand.
Glaives are trash 1H since they lose their HA and become parryable.
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>>147245839
dragon king greataxe and dragon greatsword
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>>147245875
>ruined
You mean fixed, that roll slam had no right to do thrust damage
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>>147245646
Trash Gotthards player.
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>I can use AGS without feeling like a huge faggot

Why does it feel so good?
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You think FROM will leave the dark hand as it is? I went back to my MLGS character at Dancer and fucked her, seems like it's too easy now.
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>>147245991
It was the only thing going for it when if you were fighting against ganks and forever-wait reactive metacunts.
Now that it's "fixed" it's back to being just another regular UGS (aka shit).

>>147245962
I'm alright only 2handing weapons anyway.
Gonna try Lucerne or a Spiked Mace build now.
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For sl80 pvp what weapon lvl should i have
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>>147246296
Eh... Uhhh... A Straightsword.
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>>147245986
Wow, that looks weird.
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>>147246132
It's a legitimate counter, actually.
You can't rolling-L1 punish glaive 2HR1s, and lucerne leo-counters ou0trade anything gotthard's can do.

Mechanically, glaives hard counter straightswords and the paired moveset of Gotthard's offers nothing to reverse that
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>>147246296
+10, most people finish the game around sl80.
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>>147237142
B-but m-muh DARKâ„¢ SOULSâ„¢ DIFFICULTYâ„¢........................
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>>147246352
You have very interesting opinions.
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>>147245941
no hyperarmor, no unparriability, slow enough to be parried on prediction or rollstabbed with ease
>>147245701
>go 99 str
>still cant stab with it
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>>147245986
How exactly is this not a fucking mace, since it doesn't exactly look like it has a cutting edge in the first place.
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>>147246376
What I do against glaives is bait them into a situation they can't outtrade me. Like, I know they want to roll catch me if I go in, and I just keep opening myself up to their R1s, dodging them and when I know they shouldn't have much stamina left, I go for the L1, and even if they get the hyper armor trade, they can't combo me. Of course, if he's a smart Glaive player he will never hit R1 twice, and that's what Dark Souls 3 pvp is, a huge staredown contest.
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>>147245438
join the great and large large and great club club
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>>147236679
He's clearly under 70% equip load you dumb nerd.
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>>147246497
it's the DBS/FUGS of ds1; they are too big to be called swords. too big, too thick, too heavy and too rough. they are more like large hunks of Iron
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>>147246604
that's why i fucking love using glaives on a pyromancer so i can kite your rolling ass with fire surge
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>>147236721
literally the second thing he does
>>
>tfw no bloodborne
>tfw no dark souls 2
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>>147246604
You still won't out-trade the lucerne with a rolling L1. It actually wins that trade flat-out.

Though you're right that beating glaives basically depends on them being retarded and making stupid mistakes that result in easy punishes. The only weapons that can actually fight glaives are spears
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>>147245986
>it is not in DS3 with a faster moveset and the same over the top WA
>but a giant piece of turd called FUGS is
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>>147246858
DaS2 is like 13 bucks on steem right now.
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>>147246879
The rare situation I faced a Lucerne, my L1 beaten his R1s, maybe he built it wrong.
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>>147246858
>we will never get an initially planned dark souls 2 with all its features like spell aiming
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>>147235576
Same way drang soldiers are Aldy's
They're just part of the covenant.
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>>147246897
Dragon Greatsword was trash only useful for CE-twinking in Sens
FUGS was a top-tier weapon, and legitimately the only UGS in franchise history to be competitively high-tier, all without being imbalanced.

The fact that they utterly ruined it in 3 by taking away everything that made it unique, reducing its damage, increasing its stamina cost and unironically slowing down its entire moveset in a game where everything else is faster, rolls are free and lingering hitboxes can't catch rolls is just DaS3 being a shitty, poorly designed mess ran into the ground by the Hack himself.

What makes you think the Dragon GS, a weapon that was already shitty, gimmicky trash, wouldn't just be butchered even further?
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>>147243869
>>147244670
>Card Captors
wut
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>>147247197
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>>147247128
>FUGS was a top-tier weapon
Oh sure it was, i fucking loved playing with UGS fags while using something actually good like stone ring warped sword.
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>>147247323
But why Card Captor
What does it mean
>>
is it just me or did rapiers get nerfed again?
they feel a bit slower in right hand even before the 4 th hit
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>invade as watchdog at SL 30
>kill the guys phantom with ease despite them ganking me
>host (who i've hit before for a quarter of his hp per swing) 'suddenly' has over 2000 hp and a swing does the same damage but hardly any in terms of %
>still runs off to summon a white and a blue

jesus how are people so fucking bad
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>>147247497
Acronyms
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>OnlyAfro has made like 1 DS3 video
What happened?
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>>147247651
DS3 hype burned fast.
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>>147247574

>Invading anywhere that isn't a hosted FFA
>Actually tries to fight gankers when outnumbered
>Wonders why there's hackers anywhere else

You are the only one who's feeding you salt through a hose mate
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>>147247651
He's blasted the game in its jap version on the day it came out, he's been uploading edited bits of the stream that he made that day piece by piece.
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>>147247651
Good. I want memesters out of my game.
>>
Its sucks that Armor sucks because now you gotta put so much into vigor just to be safe
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>>147247829
>now
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>>147247829
Points in STR should give equip load.
Bam, problem solved.
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>>147247497
same acronym as some moeshit, card captor sakura
>>147247128
>ce twinking
>can't get out of the ash lake at low level
just visit catacombs first and don't sit on any bonfires. maybe the first if you worry about the hydra
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>60 Faith + all 3 faith rings+Canvas
>Sunlight spear does 500

FROOOOOOOOOM
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>>147235576
They're exiles, which means that they were criminals cast out of their homeland as punishment for their crimes. In all likelihood, their "crime" was simply being undead, as exiling undead is a long-established method of getting rid of them.

Presumably, the Undead Legion was originally made up of such people. Undead warriors cast out from their homelands eventually ended up finding refuge in the legion, who recruited and trained them. Presumably it became a common occurrence for undead to seek out the legion to be their new home, sort of like how in DaS1, undead clerics went on pilgrimage to find Kindling.

You can infer that, since the Abyss Watchers have been in their graves as Lords of Cinder for so long that the Legion around them is all but gone, its warriors devolved into Ghru and its stronghold decayed into a rotting, overgrown swamp, the Exiles are probably some of the many undead who sought out and arrived at Farron Keep long after the Abyss Watchers linked the fire and the legion collapsed, and so pledged themselves to the Old Wolf and became Watchdogs instead.

Also, it was a known practice in the medieval ages to clad heinous criminals in an iron mask, which served as both a torture device and a branding to show that they were criminals. That way, even if an exile made their way to a new home, everyone would still recognize them as a criminal and an exile.
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>>147247651
He made two, actually. Havel the Rock featuring somilo and Anti-Darkmoon.
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>>147247953
before the autists start crying that it would be OP, reminder that the heavier something is, the greater STR req it has.
>>147248079
clutch a shit, take it off and hit at point blank. boom, 1k damage
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>get killed in pvp
>people do path of the dragon gesture

what am i missing?
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>>147248313
There can only be one.
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>>147248313
they are just sitting down in the least offensive way possible, what's your issue
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>invading in farron keep at SL 30
>the last 4 invasions i had the hosts and phantoms all had > 1500 HP.

am i missing something here? I'm in NG not NG+

What is happening
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>>147248407
They inverted the summon range of watchdogs a patch ago.
Now you invade upwards ~30 levels.
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>>147218871

>I always liked it for the looks

It gives me a headache for some reason
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>>147248407
if you're invading as a watchdoggy you can invade upwards for an insane amount of levels
yesterday i was invaded by a guy who dropped 4500 souls which is like level 70 while being at sl130
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>>147248407
online isn't affected by ng
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>>147248387
Nothing, i just wanted to understand since it always feels weird when people do it
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>>147248587
>Getting mad at people's signature gesture.
*HEY*
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>>147222324

nice game das3babs
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>>147218871
I just realized
>pontiff knight sword has a bunch of little holes in eat where it claims to have been "eaten away by insects" implying that simply having Aldrich pass through Irithyll caused that damage
>Dancer's swords have similar bug-eaten damage
>Wolnir's Sword, having been down int he abyss for untold eons, is almost completely eaten through despite its divine blessing, and little more than a wireframe outline of the sword is left uneaten.
I suppose it's a pretty obvious thing, but it's neat how that connection between the Deep and the Abyss is made.
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>>147248242
I thought clutch was one of the better rings?
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>>147248661
weird =/= mad
Also the *HEY* with the granny voice is the worst thing ever
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>>147247829
>now
>a lot
Nigga what?
Vigor has always been the
>goddamn level this thing you fucking ape
stat of the series, same with END. It's actually slightly better in 3 than it was in 2 because you can hit a soft cap like 10 point earlier.

The real issue is them being too scared of release DS2 armor and how absurdly strong it was
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>>147222324
This is literally what happens with me when I 1v1 someone with a big weapon.
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>>147248762
*Stretch Out*
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>>147248503
>>147248521
that's fucking retarded

i have a +1 Farron Memesword and i'm still managing to take out 1 or 2 phantoms before going down. This is some bullshit.

why does FROM hate invaders SO much?

>weighted to invade worlds with phantoms
>nerf obscuring ring
>nerf hornet ring
>giant seed in general (doesn't even have a timer)
>no limit on phantom summons or any kind of penalty for summoning whilst being invaded

this is fucking bullshit. Why is FROM trying to ram Duelling down our throats so hard when duelling literally only came about as a result of people purposely invading each other to fight. Invasion was where it started and was better for it.

Sure do love me some sl 120 pontiff pvp
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>>147248724
Not in pvp.
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>>147248952
*curl up*

:^)
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>>147238217
you cant blame them
invasions are shit and you have to rely on gimmicks to win
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>>147218329
>can't see shit Hammer
>barely hit anything Hammer
>best STR

I'd choose Yhorm's Great Machete over Smough's. I love that though.
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>>147249056
>nerf hornet ring
it was actually buffed
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>>147228347
>>147232573

Blame From for being stupid enough not to allow name changes
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>>147248774
What DaS2 release armor showed is that a meta in which armor is useless is inherently better for the game than one where armor is strong enough to matter.

I'd much rather be able to freely fashionsouls with a minimal vit investment than be forced to dump vit on every build because there's an objectively optimal armor combination that's must-use.

If there was actually some kind of meaningful gameplay tied to armor and defense, it'd be one thing, but as it is, armor is just "pay a level toll to permanently take less damage from everything"

It's one of those RPG elements that doesn't translate well into action gameplay because it's passive instead of active, and no matter what, getting hit is never a good thing. It's not like some MMO where the tank wants to take damage so that nobody else does and has actual gameplay focused around getting hit. In soul's gameplay, getting hit just means you made a mistake or fucked up a dodge/block, and there's no reason that should be rewarded or meaningfully mitigated just by some passive stats you packed on by paying the vit toll.
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>>147249063
*proper bow*
*proper bow*
*proper bow*
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>>147249056
nobody is forcing you to do duels, do ng+ dried finger runs, this is much better than invasions
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>>147249118
that wont last long if the duelbabs get their way

there was a survey on reddit the other day for From Soft and like 80% of them asked for pvp to be balanced around duels as opposed to invasions

fucking. cancer.
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>>147229637
You'll have an easier chance of cosplaying as keikaku Simon
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>>147249056
>why does FROM hate invaders SO much?
Because you fudementally don't understand what being an invader is supposed to be.

You are not there to win, you are there to spice up the game for whoever you are invading, if you can't handle that fact that either go play something else or go join a FC
Invaders have ALWAYS had both a numerical disadvantage and gimped healing.
>DeS
Body form lets you summon
>DaS 1
Human form lets you summon
>DaS 2
Host gets to use estus and healing items you only get spells
>Das 3
Host gets phantoms + more heals.

From doesn't give a shit about dueling there isn't even a proper arena for it
From doesn't give a shit about invaders having a fair chance at winning their encounters
The ONLY thing from wants is for invaders to be something different from what they could have done with level and enemy placement
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>Invade
>Search and Destroy Host
>Get all hatemail and even other invaders try to kill me for doing this everytime

I hope any of you faggots don't do this

What the fuck are you even doing the game if you're not going to play? you're like those tf2 fags
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>>147249172
I haven't found anyone proper bowing as disrespect in ds3 yet :c
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>invade a three man group
>go in head first and get gangbanged
>WAH FROM HATES INVADERS FUCKING GANKERS
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>>147231414

I'm not, just wanted to check in to see if there's anything new but just looking at webms of that ugly duel area after Pontiff makes me want to uninstall
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>>147249228
>leddit

I don't know what you expected honestly
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>>147249420
Half the people whining about """"""ganks""""" haven't faced a real gank like a 3 man closed door iron bridge red sign summon.
But it really doesn't matter, it's just shitters trying to justify why they lost
>NO I'M STILL THE BEST THE OTHER GUYS WERE JUST GANKERS
>NO I'M STILL THE BEST THE OTHER GUY WAS MINMAXING
>NO I'M STILL THE BEST THE OTHER GUY WAS A PARRY FISHER
And so on, doesn't matter what you do they will just find something else to bitch about because they are children that can't handle being beaten
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>>147249507
yeah it's pretty horrid,

I like the walls of lothric first bonfire but fucking hate climbing the fucking stair everytime
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>>147249308
your argument is pretty flawed though. I don't mind being at a disadvantage, as you say, they always were. But i dont remember in DaS or 2 the game being weighted towards you fighting against summons, early game npc summons being pretty much unkillable (Eygon, Gotthard)

Also your argument is foolish, an invasion doesn't spice up a players experience if it's just him and a phantom pressing r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 and even if the phantom gets a hit or two in who cares? We have twice the estus!
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>>147249417
Because it's so overly polite it can't look rude.
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>>147218324
No cleric candlestick?
QQ
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>>147249228
Well no shit. Invading has a much higher skill floor than dueling, and consequently much fewer players bother with it because it's above their level. This has been true of every souls game.

The thing about invading is that to us invaders, balance doesn't really matter too much. When you get good enough at it and have a strong enough understanding of how to actually win invasions, it matters a whole lot less which broken tool you exploit. I won't mind when hornet ring gets nerfed, because I'll just use something else to win 4v1s. I won't mind when that gets nerfed, either, because I'll find something else. There's a million things you can use to take apart squads because you're not facing pvp experts specialized in fighting other players, you're facing some shitter host that can't make it through the game solo and a couple losers that need to co-op in order to earn sunlight medals because they aren't good enough to invade.

Invading depends much more on exploiting the fact that you are a better player than anyone in the enemy squad than it does on exploiting actual game imbalances. If you can't handle that, then you're welcome to go hide in the pontiff's hugbox alongside scottjund and every other shitter that can't handle invading.
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>>147249583
I found a lot of closed door ganks in honor bridge and I could handle them really well, even only with IK UGS R1 spam. Or parries
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Anyone on PC want to co-op or need help with bosses? I'm running low on embers, only 154 left.
Srs though if anyone needs/wants a buddy let me know (anywhere but archives)
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>>147249687
It would look rude if Mother's mask was in DS3, thank fuck it's not in the game, I hate how it looks
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>>147249615
>But i dont remember in DaS or 2 the game being weighted towards you fighting against summons
Then you didn't play DS1 when it was active or play DS2 at all.

1 had the highest chance of actually getting a 1v1 invasions because of the retarded way the netcode worked and the fact that the game was never really super popular in the first place.
2 has summons out the fucking ass and is entirely BUILT on fighting phantoms, because phantoms can't estus while an invader is in so 90% of invasions in 2 are about chipping away at phantoms while trying not to get Brazzered.

The only way you would think that invading is anything other than an unfair and practically unwinnable (provided the person you are invading isn't a total retard) scenario for the invader is that if you picked up DS1 way past it's initial release and never actually spent a lot of time invading in 2.
You are just a specific subset of people that got the a mistaken impression of what invaders were because of the condition of how you started playing.
From the get go invaders have never had a fair duel and have ALWAYS had to put up with really really shitty multi enemy fights. You are just flat out WRONG about what invaders were meant to be, accept it and move on with your life. Don't sit here going
>FROM HATES INVADERS MUH PHANTOMS
When the main reason for setting yourself up for being invaded has always been the ability to summon help.
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>>147249825
invade
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>even the new Berserk anime is better than DaS3
What a year.
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Trying to take on Freja early as possible and then again to get the MLGS. Had a little trouble with my first go because Heide Knight Sword +2 ended up being the equivalent of a toothpick. Got down to 25% and then got overwhelmed when Boyd died.
Is there a better weapon I can pick up real quick for this fight? Preferably something that also gets me through the fight after I burn an ascetic.
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Goddamn do i love the new and improved GoJ
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>>147249932
Invading won't let me help buddies kill bosses.
I hope you understand the ember thing was a joke.
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So is level 60 the best level to be for invading and blades of the darkmoon summons? What weapon level upgrade is recommended?
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>Spiked Mace
>Not thrust damage
One
Fucking
Job
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>>147249992
post build
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>>147249992
>Cut right in the part where you get backstabbed
lmao
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>>147249959

These are dark days..
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>>147249992
>ending the webm right before you get BS punished for throwing out a stupid R2
nice
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>>147249981
Well the easiest way to do it just to post your info here (Platform, shcolar/non scholar, SM) and get someone to do it for you.
If you want to do it yourself then in 99.9% cases a Rapier + Leo ring is your best bet, might want to either take 2 or repair along if you don't have a bracing kuckle ring.

You can always just Soul Vessel your stats into DEX/STR, then move them back once you have your gear.
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>>147249959
>implying
Not even DS3 is worse than this piece of crap
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>>147249890

Knight set + MoM is good fashion.
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>>147250090
Here, i dont have the Life Ring+3 yet
The GoJ is so fun i'm actually considering just dropping the Bellowing+Sage rings while using it so i can equip more melee oriented rings like chloranthy
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>>147250332
nothing that has mother's mask looks good
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>>147250182
>>147250249
he actually did a rolling attack that got me
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>>147250332

You are delusional
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>>147248724
it's shit, especially if you wanna chuck lightning, which is better done at close range
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>anons think this looks bad
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>>147249981
>>147250270
Oh and try to avoid using NPCs against freya because
1) it will buff her health by quite a lot
2) do really shit damage while making a head fall off sooner
3) not even serve as that great a distraction
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>>147249583
Half the """"""people"""""" whining about people whining about ganks have consigned themselves to duels and never invade because their egos are so very very fragile, it's just shitters who aren't good enough at legitimately competitive games trying to justify why they're afraid of invasions
>NO I'M THE BEST YOU'RE ALL SCRUBS
>NO I'M THE BEST YOU GUYS AREN'T ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE ME
>NO I'M THE BEST STOP PLAYING THE GAME WRONG
And so on, doesn't matter what you say they will just find a way to delude themselves into thinking that an RPG with a neat multiplayer bonus that's pretty janky but still fun is as competitive as Street Fighter because they are children that can't handle people criticizing the game

This shit goes both ways, you know
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>>147249992
MLGS thrust WA would have hit for literally double that.
>>
The amount of people I've fought today that have switched to an offhand card captor or rapier jesus christ
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New Vaati video is out guys
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>>147250726
It's also slow as fuck, doesn't have built-in damage reduction, and doesn't buff the weapon with +80 magic damage for 45 seconds.
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>>147250662
People who whine about ganks end up dueling
People who don't whine about ganks end up invading

I don't get what your trying to imply here anon. That people who invade and don't care for the excuses of other invader are actually all dueling?
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>>147250609
aberration
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Beat soul of cinder, my dick is fucking diamonds.
Jesus fucking christ best boss.
Best finale
RIP dark souls sleep tight sweet prince
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>>147250609
it looks complete shit desu
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>>147250609

I think it's neat. The proportions are cute
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>>147246858
>extreme craving for banana comes out of nowhere
>grab spare dollar off of nightstand in room
>walk to convenience store to get a banana
>find this on the way back home

t-thanks miyazaki now if only i had a credit card to turn this into steambux id be set
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>invade
>most of the areas are dead as fuck, if you find a world it's either host and his buttbuddies which he keeps summoning through password or a random gankquad

>duel
>gotthards and 2kats, nothing else

>pve
>no replayability
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>>147250609
>doesn't show the clipping out the ass
I don't miss DaS1 at all. What a joke of a meta.
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>>147251096
>>extreme craving for banana
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>>147250845
>People who whine about ganks end up dueling
If only, because then you'd stop having to read peoples complaints about how invading sucks.

As far as the last post, all I'm implying is that the shitflinging goes both ways, and that taking Dark Souls PvP seriously is a quick way to lose brain cells, because the actual mechanics behind it are inconsistent and janky, not to mention the malignant tumor that is the community dividing people up into "Duelists" and "Invaders".
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>>147251163
>Suck dick
>Cum always come out
>>
>want to go super pyromancer build
>want all the pyromancer spells, gotta catch em all
>one is locked behind 30 madman shackles
>I'm shit at PvP

How do you do it?
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>>147251379
Farm the 3 giant skellebros before the carthus bonfire
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>>147251340
>Fuck ur mom pu$$y
>You come out
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>>147251340
are you a cute boy
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>>147250778
>he doesn't know what oni are
kek. Well his ignorance earned him a view. I guess it was funny enough to be worth the time wasted.
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>>147251340
pfft, I bet you couldn't make a virgin cum you fairweather fag.
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>>147250609

>faggot little twig leggings gave 7 poise for 1.5 weight
>this gave 0 poise for 3.5 weight
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>>147251379
shackles are super easy to earn if you reverse gank hosts using alritch summons
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>>147251163
>pve
>no replayability

you could try doing stupid challenge runs - i'm doing that and i'm still not bored with the game
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>>147251720
poise should be a linear function of armor weight desu
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>>147251912
>>147251912
>>147251912
>>147251912
new bread
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>someone actually uses slow walk away + quiet resolve AS A GREETING
Jesus fuck
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>>147251163

I feel your feels anon..
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>>147249168
The problem is that fashion souls is that minimal investment sucks if you find any heavier armor pretty.
I have a character carrying only a bow + spear whose heaviest piece is just from Outrider set and is over 60%. I can't even imagine how strggling it must be for people who like sets like Smough's or winged knight. It actively punishing people for liking certain looks.
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>>147252063
>have to waste points in vit to wear stupid meme armour
Seems fine to me.
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>>147251379
>raw uchi
>carthus flame ark
>spam running r1 and l1r1 roll chase

Got all of them in one sitting at keep perimeter. Fucking scrubs galore there
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>>147252151
>to wear stupid meme armour
to look good you mean. heavy weight isn't reserved for wacky armor. it's also in good looking sets.
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>>147252532

Don't waste your time he has brain problems
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>>147252151
Fallen set is quite light though anon. Meanwhile cathedral, morne or lothric knight certainly force you to waste a few points.
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>>147231042
I need souls, pls summon me and lets co-op
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>>147231414
because its >fun
>>
poorfag here

how much will the dlc for ds3 cost at the start? i only barely managed to suck enough dicks to afford ds3 ;-;
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>>147253546
get the season pass once it goes on sale
Just stay shapr and watch for the deals.

Should be the cheapest option to gain access to both announced dlc's
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>>147253546

Since the season pass is the same price as DS2's I imagine they'll be 10 bucks each
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>>147251913
>heavy shit gives you more poise
>implying carrying a backpack full of bricks makes you harder to knock down
It makes it easier if anything. Poise ought to be representative of how well-fitted, easy to move in and padded on the inside the armor is while still being protective.
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>>147254621
>realism approach. yeah, and leg armor should give the most poise, chest armor the most defense, hand armor should lower attack speed and lack of head armor should result in evey headshot to be an instakill. what i proposed has nothing to do with realism, just gets rid of "required" armor pieces to properly minmax
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>>147255602
>>147254621
some realism is good, too much is bad
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>>147253546
>He paid money for DS3
>He wants to pay for the DLC

are you retarded anon?
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>>147256019
n-no, just a good goy
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>>147251504
here's my rarest reaction image for giving the easiest method, thanks anon
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>>147250939
Now if only we got

>firelink curved sword
>firelink UGS

From his soul.
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